Re: Problemas con DebConf

2000-01-13 Thread Paco Brufal
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, AVILA BERMEJO, FRANCISCO JOSE wrote:

 Si hay alguien que tenga instalado el DebConf y le funcione
 correctamente, a ver si me puede decir n qué paquete se
 encuentra el fichero overload.pm porque a mi no me lo

15:07:phucksys:root# dpkg -S overload.pm
perl-5.004: /usr/lib/perl5/5.004/i386-linux/overload.pm
15:07:phucksys:root#

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error modprobe nls accediendo al CD de debian 2.1

2000-01-13 Thread Andres Seco Hernandez
Hola

Cada vez que accedo al cd 1 de Debian 2.1 (para instalar paquetes con
dselect) me aparece en syslog un mensaje de modprobe:

Jan 13 00:52:21 servidor modprobe: can't locate module nls_iso8859_1
Jan 13 00:52:21 servidor kernel: Unable to load NLS charset
iso8859-1(nls_iso8859_1)

El kernel que uso lo he compilado yo, y me temo que me he dejado algo sin
meter, pero no se el qué, ya que desde make menuconfig no veo nada que se
me parezca al módulo indicado.

De todos modos, me instala los paquetes que le pido y todo parece que vaya
bien.

¿qué hago?

Saludos.
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fotos del hispalinux (otia, un poco tarde X'D)

2000-01-13 Thread Paco Brufal
Hola!


Weno, que por fin he puesto las fotos que hice en el II Congreso
Hispalinux en mi web, el que quiera que se pase y se ria un rato con los
caretos X'DD

http://r34linux.virtualave.net

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Re: Imágen tapiz.

2000-01-13 Thread Tomás Bautista
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 10:01:58PM +0100, Hue-Bond wrote:

 Seguro que es una tontería pero ¿cómo se hace para colocar una imagen de
 tapiz en linux?
 
 xloadimage -onroot imagen
 
  Creo que xv y gimp también pueden hacer.

Con el xv se puede hacer con

% xv -quit -root imagen

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Re: Sonido2.

2000-01-13 Thread Agustín Martín Domingo
Emilio Hernández Martín wrote:
 
 Si has compilado el sonido como módulo deberás decirle los parámetros en
 un archivo para la tarjeta en el directorio  /etc/modutils. Por ejemplo,
 yo tengo un archivo soundblaster con el siguiente contenido
 
 # Configuración para el sonido con una soundblaster 16 pnp
 # -
 alias char-major-14 sb
 post-install sb /sbin/modprobe -k adlib_card
 pre-remove sb /sbin/modprobe -r adlib_card
 options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330
 options adlib_card io=0x388 # FM synthesizer
 # --- Fin configuración soundblaster 16 --
 
 Hola.
 
 Perdonad mi ignorancia pero ¿esto vale para cualquier Soundblaster 16
 pnp? Quiero decir, ¿hay algún parámetro específico que pueda cambiar en mi
 ordenador? Si es así, ¿cómo puedo crear este mismo archivo adecuado a mi
 sistema? Y, por otra parte, ¿vale con esto para que ya funcione la tarjeta
 la próxima vez que arranque?

Creo que todas las soundblaster 16 pnp son iguales (y de hecho me parece
que tienen el chip vibra 16) Los valores que hay puestos son los valores
por omisión que vienen de fábrica, y que a mí me funcionan. Si
funcionan, no es necesario andar con las isapnp ni con nada por el
estilo. Si tienes que cambiarlos, sí que es necesario andar con las
isapnptools.

Para utilizarlo, si has compilado el sonido para soundblaster como
módulo, copia esas líneas en por ejemplo /etc/modutils/soundblaster
(créalo) y lanza (como root) update-modules. A partir de ese momento si
está todo correcto ya debe funcionarte.

Saludos,

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crear imagen disco duro pasar a cdrom

2000-01-13 Thread Juanma
queridos amigos:
Os escribo para preguntaros sobre una cuestión:

Tengo un disco duro de 560 mb con un sistema operativo funcionando.
Le hago un dd (maravillosa herramienta) y creo un archivo con la extensión
iso
De ahí pretendo crear un cdrom a partir de la imagen iso.
Per como el cdr es más grande que la imagen tengo que darle unos datos
de cuándo empieza y cuándo termina aparte de indicarle el tamaño de los
bloques (creo que por defecto son de 2048).

¿cómo puedo saber estos datos de inicio y terminación?

Recibid un saludo y las gracias anticipadas.


Juanma


Sonido, otra vez.

2000-01-13 Thread Emilio Hernández Martín

Hola, he hecho todo lo que me has dicho. Te cuento:

 primero de todo, hay una opcion en la bios (pero no recuerdo en que
 subapartado) que es algo asi como PnP OS Installed, pos la pones a NO
 (aunque uses win9x, que tampoco esta muy demostrado que sea PnP XD)

Hecho. ¿Se supone que el Plug and Play así ya no funciona para Windows?
Es decir, si alguna vez necesitase conectar nuevo hardware, ¿tendría que
volver a habilitar esta opción?

 Luego arrancas el linux y te preparas para recompilar el kernel... si usas
 make config quizas si te haya preguntado por la SB pero no te hayas dado
 cuenta... te recomiendo usar make menuconfig (o make xconfig)

Utilizo 'make xconfig' y tampoco me ha hecho ninguna pregunta sobre la
tarjeta.

 y si vas a
 usar un kernel 2.2 mejor usa minimo la 2.2.10 o 2.2.12...

Aquí es donde creo que puede estar el problema. Yo tengo el 2.2.4

 Te vas a la sección
 de sonido le dices que yes a los OSS Sound Modules y activas el so`porte
 SB... entonces justo debajo estan las opciones..  Lo dejas todo como esta
 pero pones la IRQ como 5 en lugar de 7... esta es la configuracion por
 defecto de una SB que es laa que toma cuando la inicializa la bios...

OK, hecho.

 Recompilas, ejecutas lilo o copias el kernel a un diskette o lo que sea y
 reinicias...
 y ya esta ;)
 tendria que funcionar.

Ejecuté lilo y reinicié, y me salieron los mensajes:

...
sound initialization started
sound initialization complete
...

Después, para probar, ejecuté 'xplaycd' del menú 'apps - sound' (creo)
y apareció el ¿interfaz? que era capaz de leer las pistas del CD, incluso al
darle al PLAY empezó a avanzar el indicador de tiempo de la primera
canción... pero allí no sonaba nada.

¿Puede ser problema de los altavoces?, ¿del kernel?, ...

Gracias y un saludo

Emilio.


Imagen tapiz 2.

2000-01-13 Thread Emilio Hernández Martín

Hola.

Antes de nada, muchas gracias a todos los de la lista Debian por vuestra
ayuda tanto en éste como en otros asuntos.

Vamos con lo de la imagen tapiz.

Por una parte, me dijeron:

 Yo tengo en mi .xsession antes del exec fvwm2 lo siguiente:

 xpmroot $HOME/graficos/texturas/fondo_madera.xpm

lo que pasa es que yo no tengo ningún .xsession. Lo más parecido que tengo
es .xsession-errors en /root/, pero no creo que tenga nada que ver. ¿Puedo
crear yo un .xsession?, ¿cómo?, ¿dónde?,...

Después, también probé:

xloadimage -onroot imagen

y sí que funcionaba aunque al volver a reiniciar linux, ya no aparecía la
imagen. ¿Cómo puedo hacer que se quede instalada? Además, aparecía
repetida varias veces para rellenar todo el escritorio. ¿Se puede poner
centrada o estirada o de alguna otra forma?

También me dijeron que probara con:

xv -quit -root imagen

pero yo el 'xv' no lo tengo instalado. Tengo, en cambio, el 'gimp' pero no
sé cómo hacer que la imagen abierta se coloque en el escritorio. ¿Alguien
sabe cómo poner una imagen cómo tapiz de fondo con el gimp? Es que la ayuda
no me funciona, no sale nada en pantalla.

Muchas gracias y un saludo.

Emilio.




Re: Sonido, otra vez.

2000-01-13 Thread Pookie

 Hola, he hecho todo lo que me has dicho. Te cuento:

  primero de todo, hay una opcion en la bios (pero no recuerdo en que
  subapartado) que es algo asi como PnP OS Installed, pos la pones a NO
  (aunque uses win9x, que tampoco esta muy demostrado que sea PnP XD)

 Hecho. ¿Se supone que el Plug and Play así ya no funciona para
Windows?
 Es decir, si alguna vez necesitase conectar nuevo hardware, ¿tendría que
 volver a habilitar esta opción?

Esto no evita que windows detecte hardware, lo que hace es inicializar los
dispositivos PnP en lugar del sistema operativo... nada mas... asi te
aseguras que antes de arrancar linux ya esta inicializada la tarjeta...


  Luego arrancas el linux y te preparas para recompilar el kernel... si
usas
  make config quizas si te haya preguntado por la SB pero no te hayas
dado
  cuenta... te recomiendo usar make menuconfig (o make xconfig)

 Utilizo 'make xconfig' y tampoco me ha hecho ninguna pregunta sobre la
 tarjeta.

Si has hecho lo de mas abajo (lo del OSS - lo de cambiar la IRQ y eso)
entonces es que si que te la ha hecho
Asegurate de que has activado el sound support y el OSS no esta como
modulo... (supongo que si, si no no te deberia salir lo de abajo)

  y si vas a
  usar un kernel 2.2 mejor usa minimo la 2.2.10 o 2.2.12...

 Aquí es donde creo que puede estar el problema. Yo tengo el 2.2.4

Hombre no se
Una cosa mas en la seccion de PnP activa el PnP Support ;)


  Te vas a la sección
  de sonido le dices que yes a los OSS Sound Modules y activas el so`porte
  SB... entonces justo debajo estan las opciones..  Lo dejas todo como
esta
  pero pones la IRQ como 5 en lugar de 7... esta es la configuracion por
  defecto de una SB que es laa que toma cuando la inicializa la bios...

 OK, hecho.

  Recompilas, ejecutas lilo o copias el kernel a un diskette o lo que sea
y
  reinicias...
  y ya esta ;)
  tendria que funcionar.

 Ejecuté lilo y reinicié, y me salieron los mensajes:

 ...
 sound initialization started
 sound initialization complete
 ...

 Después, para probar, ejecuté 'xplaycd' del menú 'apps - sound'
(creo)
 y apareció el ¿interfaz? que era capaz de leer las pistas del CD, incluso
al
 darle al PLAY empezó a avanzar el indicador de tiempo de la primera
 canción... pero allí no sonaba nada.

 ¿Puede ser problema de los altavoces?, ¿del kernel?, ...

Si no te pone que la ha detectado entre las lineas de arriba no es el kernel
ni los altavoces... repasa la configuracion (que todo este dentro del kernel
y no como modulo y eso... y que tienes activado el PnP Support)

Por otro lado.. la tarjeta que usas es ISA o PCI?

 Gracias y un saludo
dnd



RE: Sonido, otra vez.

2000-01-13 Thread jarregui
Hola, Emilio.
Teclea la orden de aquí abajo y cuéntanos qué te pone:

cat /dev/sndstat

Javi

 -Mensaje original-
 De: Emilio Hernández Martín [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Enviado el: jueves 13 de enero de 2000 13:36
 Para: Pookie
 Asunto: Sonido, otra vez.
 


Re: Problemas con DebConf

2000-01-13 Thread Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona

(No recuerdo quien escribío esto:)
   Si hay alguien que tenga instalado el DebConf y le funcione
   correctamente, a ver si me puede decir n qué paquete se
   encuentra el fichero overload.pm porque a mi no me lo

Acabo de ver este mensaje, que creo que es posible sea de
ayuda:

-
From: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ivan Andres Hernandez Puga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debconf  Perl
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:02:26 -0800

Ivan Andres Hernandez Puga wrote:
 Hello:
 When installing debconf package it complains about the missing file
 overload.pm
 That file is included on a perl package... but without that package debconf
 doesnt installs. Why then not to set a dependence between debconf and the perl
 package?

Perl is broken. I hope a fixed perl was uploaded today.
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Re: crear imagen disco duro pasar a cdrom

2000-01-13 Thread Ugo Enrico Albarello
At 01:27 PM 2000-01-13 +0100, Juanma wrote:
queridos amigos:
Os escribo para preguntaros sobre una cuestión:

Tengo un disco duro de 560 mb con un sistema operativo funcionando.
Le hago un dd (maravillosa herramienta) y creo un archivo con la extensión
iso
De ahí pretendo crear un cdrom a partir de la imagen iso.
Estás mal... estás haciendo una imagen del sistema de archivos del disco
duro, el cual _dudo bastante_ que sea ISO9660 (de hecho, no conozco ningún
OS que trabaje sobre iso9660).

Per como el cdr es más grande que la imagen tengo que darle unos datos
de cuándo empieza y cuándo termina aparte de indicarle el tamaño de los
bloques (creo que por defecto son de 2048).

¿cómo puedo saber estos datos de inicio y terminación?
Yo nunca he necesitado esos datos al quemar un CD desde linux...

Necesitas la imagen tal cual del sistema, o solo una copia?


Ugo Enrico Albarello López de Mesa
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A proud Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 User.


Re: crear imagen disco duro pasar a cdrom

2000-01-13 Thread Hue-Bond
El jueves 13 de enero de 2000 a la(s) 13:27:31 +0100, Juanma contaba:

De ahí pretendo crear un cdrom a partir de la imagen iso.

 Entonces mírate el comando mkisofs.


Per como el cdr es más grande que la imagen tengo que darle unos datos
de cuándo empieza y cuándo termina aparte de indicarle el tamaño de los
bloques (creo que por defecto son de 2048).

¿cómo puedo saber estos datos de inicio y terminación?

 No hace falta. Lo grabas con cdrecord y listos.


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Re: Linux Expo en Madrid

2000-01-13 Thread Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez
On jue, ene 13, 2000 at 02:48:57 +0100, Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona wrote:
 (España) en abril. Por un lado, puede que os interese enviar
 algo. Pero por otro lado, es posible que den metros cuadrados gratis
 para poner un stand de Debian. La pregunta es, ¿interesa esto? (en

¿Cómo?, pues claro ¿no?, muy interesante.

 otras palabras, ¿habría gente, desarrolladores incluidos si es
 posible, que quieran/puedan estar en el stand, algún trasto para hacer 
 demos, y cosas por el estilo?). ¿Qué os parece?

Me parece que echaría una mano si pudiera o pudiese dentro de mis
posibilidades que son pocas dado que vivo en Sevilla y empiezo a currar creo
dentro de poco. Me parece importante que se haga lo posible para que Debian
tenga un stand, que la gente lo vea y pueda preguntar y ver qué hay... vamos
lo que yo hice hace años con gente como vosotros pero en vivo y en directo ;-)

Si puedo hacer algo lo haré.
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apt-get

2000-01-13 Thread luis
Hola:

¿Puede alguien decirme que direcciones utiliza para
actualizarse a traves de apt-get?

¿EXiste alguna dirección oficual de Debian?

Gracias


Re: Sonido.

2000-01-13 Thread Xavier Andrade


On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, [iso-8859-1] Emilio Hernández Martín wrote:

 
 Hola,
 
 tengo una tarjeta de sonido Soundblaster 16 PnP OEM (no sé lo que quiere
 decir OEM) y creo que sí está soportada por 'slink' con kernel 2.2.4 (al
 menos eso me ha parecido leer en algún sitio en la red) pero después de
 compilar el núcleo habilitando el soporte para tarjeta de sonido no me ha
 hecho ninguna pregunta (que se supone debe hacer para configurar el sonido,
 según un HOWTO) y al arrancar posteriormente, no aparece ningún mensaje
 sobre mi tarjeta (que en Windows funciona perfectamente).
 
 ¿Qué puedo hacer para configurar correctamente mi tarjeta?
 
 Muchas gracias y un saludo.
 
 Emilio.
 
 
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Yo tengo una sb16 PnP andando, para instalarla mira el archivo 
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/Introduccion (o donde tengas
las fuentes del kernel). Mira en windows que valores usar para los
parametros. 

Xavier


Re: apt-get

2000-01-13 Thread Iniaki Fernandez Villanueva

On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, luis wrote:

 Hola:
 
 ¿Puede alguien decirme que direcciones utiliza para
 actualizarse a traves de apt-get?

deb http://ftp.tsc.uvigo.es/debian stable main contrib non-free non-US
deb http://ceu.fi.udc.es/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb http://www.debian.org/~vincent/ y2k-update main
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable updates



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Re: apt-get

2000-01-13 Thread Luis M. García Ruipérez
luis escribió:
 
 Hola:
 
 ¿Puede alguien decirme que direcciones utiliza para
 actualizarse a traves de apt-get?
 
 ¿EXiste alguna dirección oficual de Debian?
 

Yo utilizo ftp://ftp.es.debian.org y ftp://ceu.fi.udc.es
Ambos están en España y a mí me van bastante rápidos

 Gracias

De nada...


Re: Melhor forma de desligar

2000-01-13 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
Hi Adriano!

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Adriano Freitas wrote:

  navegação e utilização de e-mail. Só que eu estou com um problema: eles em
  geral não gostam da idéia de digitar um comando para ter que desligar o
  sistema. A princípio, eu utilizei o sudo para permitir que eles usem o

Usuário de Windows está acostumado com Ctrl+alt+del. Reprogramar
/etc/inittab para rodar shutdown -h no lugar de shutdown -r quando
Ctrl+Alt+Del é detectado (um segundo ctrl+alt+del com o kernel em halt causa
reboot) funcionou aqui em casa.

Claro, isso só ajuda quem está no console, mas desconfio que isso é o
suficiente no seu caso.

Hmm... nunca tentei fazer isso do X, mas por aqui o pessoal nunca reclamou
de ter que sair do X antes do ctrl-alt-del...

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  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
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Re: Melhor forma de desligar

2000-01-13 Thread jclaudio


 hehehe, eu ficaria muito feliz se alguem conseguisse invadir o meu
 computador e a única coisa que ele pudesse fazer fosse desligar o meu
 micro! :)

 Acho que para quem usa um startx no .bash_profile tá bom de mais
 permitir que qualquer usuário possa desligar o micro com o comando halt
 :)


Parece que não fui muito claro. Na verdade, se torna inconveniente usuários 
logados na
máquina através de rede ou mesmo no micro principal que o sistema se ja 
desligado por
qualquer um. Suponha-se que alguem deixou uma tarefa em background. Um usuário 
qualquer
por que decidiu, desligará o micro encerrando antes do seu fim a tarefa que um 
outro
usuário espera estar concluída quando ele retornar. Isso vale principalmente 
para
sistemas com dezenas ou centenas de usuários. Eu nao estava falando de invasão,
portanto.


Re: Melhor forma de desligar

2000-01-13 Thread Clovis Sena
Homens de pouca feh!!!

o prob inicial era usar o micro pelos 2/3 irmaos do nosso amigo! sendo
assim, qq solucao serve! a mais simples eh: se o usuario eh realmente
anormal p nao saber desligar o sistema corretamente, mete o dedo no
botao e pronto... nao eh isto q os usuarios sao craques em fazer???

t+

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netscape error :undefined symbol: _ _bzero

2000-01-13 Thread john smith
I have installed netscape communicator v2.2 and when I installed it it told 
me that it had error in loading shared libraries, it needed 
libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2, so I installed that now, when I try to still try 
to run netscape , it gives me a different error that I have no idea about.


./netscape:error in loading shared libraries
: undefined symbol: _ _bzero
__
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Re: Accessing /dev/mem

2000-01-13 Thread Ethan Benson

On 12/1/2000 David Wright wrote:



Are you talking potato here? All my stable/slink systems show precisely:

crw-r-   1 root kmem   1,   2 Mar  3  1999 kmem
crw-rw   1 root kmem   1,   1 Mar  3  1999 mem

and that includes the dates. (I included kmem in case you'd misread
the line.)


I was talking potato, yes, i rechecked i have both files same major 
minor numbers but both are mode 640, in any event they should be 
owned by root and not some uid 8000+ something ;-)



(I have no idea what these devices do.)


I believe they give access to system memory, which is why its 
important that they be protected, i could be mistaken, and thinking 
of /proc/kcore but i don't think so.  (kcore represents all system 
memory too but is not accessable by anyone but root) group kmem is 
used by lsof which is setgid kmem presumably to access these devices.


I don't know whether its normal for write permission on the group 
under slink or not...


Ethan


Re: How to install new Window manager

2000-01-13 Thread Ethan Benson

On 12/1/2000 Guyren G Howe wrote:


But I can't work out how to get Afterstep to come up instead of KDE. Can
someone tell me how to do this? All the explanations I've found go into
gorey detail about compiling it, then say something like and then you
install it.


add a .xsession to your home directory wtih contents as follows:

#! /bin/sh

## name of your preferred windowmanager (afterstep may not be right name)
afterstep 

then chmod 700 .xsession

Ethan


Swapping dependencies

2000-01-13 Thread Dave Sherohman
On one of my machines, I initially installed ssmtp and I now want to replace
it with exim.  However...

dpkg -i exim...deb

fails because exim conflicts with ssmtp and

dpkg --purge ssmtp

fails because various other packages depend on mail-transport-agent...

I know I can use dpkg's 'force' options to override these complaints, but is
there a better way to perform this sort of replacement?

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Re: Swapping dependencies

2000-01-13 Thread Joey Hess
Dave Sherohman wrote:
 I know I can use dpkg's 'force' options to override these complaints, but is
 there a better way to perform this sort of replacement?

apt-get install exim

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Re: dwww

2000-01-13 Thread Bradley Bell
dwww seems to need a _lot_ of work.  dhelp, on the other hand, will do
most of what you need.

-brad

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Evan Moore wrote:

 is any1 else having a very hard time trying to get dwww to work on
 potato. Everything but the info pages will not work. After hacking the
 the scripts i was able to get the man pages to convert to html, but I am
 sure that it was a waste of time. any ideas where i have gone wrong?
 thanks
 
 
 evan
 
 
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Re: QuickTime player for Debian?

2000-01-13 Thread Phil Brutsche
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

 Joachim Trinkwitz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
  Did you try xanim-modules in potato (it's an online-installer for
  non-free modules which are not part of the core xanim)?
 
 Yes I tried xanim and xanim-modules, but it says: 
 
 $ xanim sample.mov
 XAnim Rev 2.80.0 by Mark Podlipec Copyright (C) 1991-1999. All Rights
 Reserved
   Video Codec: Sorenson Video not yet supported.(E18)
   Audio Codec: QDesign Music Codec (QDMC) not yet supported.
   Notice: Video and Audio are present, but not yet supported.
 Usage:
XAnim [options] anim [ [options] anim ... ]
-h  lists some common options, but may be out of date.
See xanim.readme or the man page for detailed help.

That means you're not going to view this movie without Windows or a Mac
anytime soon.  It uses the Sorenson video codec; it's authors have been
uncooperative wrt support outside of helping Apple with it.  Anything else
is 200% out of the question (iirc).

-- 
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There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the
universe. And I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein


setting up w/o interaction

2000-01-13 Thread Peter-Paul Witta
hi!
i am not on this list, so please cc replies to me as well!

we do set up quite a few debian boxes at once, so i was asking if there is
some non-interactive way to set up debian. how do i do this?
can i create response-files or definition files and still use the setup
program, or should i setup without configuration after booting from my own
diskettes? i could apply a generated set of /etc/* files later -- but is
there no right way to do this?

kind regards, +43-676-5411293
Peter-Paul Witta  +43-1-7189880-0
CUBiT system engineering  www.CUBiT.at 


Re: my font suddently become very ugly

2000-01-13 Thread David J. Kanter
Put these entries:

  FontPath   unix/:7101
  FontPath   unix/:7100

after these entries:

  FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
  FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
  FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
  FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
  FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
  FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese/:unscaled
  FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese/

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and coincidences.
  -- John Allen Paulos, mathematics professor at Temple University


Re: mutt ignoring [tags]

2000-01-13 Thread David J. Kanter
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 01:32:51PM -0700, Nate Duehr wrote:
 If you're using exim, you might try using the .forward file filtering built
 into exim instead of trying to do it in mutt, if you're having trouble.  

My two-cents worth: the default exim config is set up so you don't need to
use a .forward file if you use procmail.

Here's how I have it:

~/.procmailrc:

PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail # you'd better make sure it exists
PMDIR=$HOME/procmail   # procmail recipies are here
LOGFILE=$PMDIR/procmail.log# recommended
VERBOSE=yes# for debugging
LOGABSTRACT=all

INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/lists.rc  # plug-in recipies start here!

~/procmail/lists.rc:

:0:
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian/


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while digging out a liver tumor with both eyes and the other ear.
  
  -- Dr. Francis D. Moore Sr., 
 Moseley professor emeritus of surgery, Harvard Medical School.


Re: How to install new Window manager

2000-01-13 Thread David J. Kanter
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 01:58:25PM -0800, Guyren G Howe wrote:
 I'm a newbie at this. I figured I'd get started learning to customise all
 this stuff by installing a new Window Manager. I like the look of AfterStep
 (one of its skins in particular), so I've downloaded all the relevant bits.
 
 But I can't work out how to get Afterstep to come up instead of KDE.

I would just have my ~/.xsession contain the line:

exec afterstep

 I'm also interested in the meta-question: where would I look, on the net or
 in /usr/doc or whatever, to work out the answer to this question for myself?

/usr/doc is a good start.

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while digging out a liver tumor with both eyes and the other ear.
  
  -- Dr. Francis D. Moore Sr., 
 Moseley professor emeritus of surgery, Harvard Medical School.


Re: QuickTime player for Debian?

2000-01-13 Thread Phil Brutsche
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

 Yeah I also saw that, but it failes to compile with: 
 
 $ make
 gcc -c `./c_flags` atom.c
 In file included from codecs.h:10,
  from private.h:9,
  from quicktime.h:11,
  from atom.c:2:
 jpeg.h:8: jpeglib.h: No such file or directory
 jpeg.h:9: png.h: No such file or directory
 make: *** [atom.o] Error 1
 
 I haven't figured out what package these might be in if any. 

You're missing the libpng2-dev and libjpeg62-dev libraries, according to
my slink system.

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universe. And I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein


LILO fails to load

2000-01-13 Thread Glen S Mehn
Hi:

When I boot my machine, I get
LI
at the lilo prompt. The lilo docs say this can be caused by a geometry
mismatch or by moving /boot/boot.b without running the map installer

Neither of these are things that I'm quite sure of.

I just built a custom kernel with make zlilo, which is meant to do all the
lilo dependencies for you.

I'm running on a Penguin Computing 2U rackmount server with a SCSI bus (the
kernel is compiled for the AIX 7XXX card). Debian potato.

Please respond via private email as well as to the list (I only get the
digest)

Regards!

Glen S Mehn


limits in /etc/passwd, and maybe a bug in processing /etc/limits? :)

2000-01-13 Thread Jim B
OK.  As a continuation of my previous ramblings on resource limits, I'm
running into two more similar issues on my slink machine.

According to /etc/login.defs, I should be able to employ resource limits
by editing users' passwd entries.  I have QUOTAS_ENAB in login.defs:

# Enable setting of ulimit, umask, and niceness from passwd gecos field.
#
QUOTAS_ENAB yes


If I look at man 5 passwd, I see the following:


   The  comment  field  is  used by various system utilities,
   such as finger(1).  Three additional values may be present
   in the comment field.  They are

pri= - set initial value of nice
umask= - set initial value of umask
ulimit= - set initial value of ulimit

   These  fields  are  separated from each other and from any
   other comment field by a comma.


I tried to set the umask to 022 this way with a test account, and I can't
get it to do anything at all.

I have tried adding extra comment entries by adding commas in
/etc/passwd, and I've also tried using the pre-existing comment
entries.  None of it works.  I end up with the default umask of 002 no
matter what... and yes I have commented-out the umask field in
/etc/profile, and there is none in the test user's .bash_profile,
.profile, and .bashrc.  :)

Anyone know the right way to do it?


My second problem... well, it looks like it may be a bug.  Note the
following text in /etc/limits:

# Valid flags are:
# A: max address space (KB)
# C: max core file size (KB)
# D: max data size (KB)

... and so on.


But any time I use the A limit, the whole line becomes useless.  See the
following in man 5 limits:

A invalid limits string will be rejected (not considered) by the login
program.

If I take out the A limit, the rest of the line functions again.  So
there seems to be some kind of problem reading or enforcing this limit.


So a line like this:

* L2 D12288 M32768 R2048 S2048 U64 N256 F16384 T60 C0

works fine.


But one like this:

* A32768 L2 D12288 M32768 R2048 S2048 U64 N256 F16384 T60 C0

breaks the whole line and NO limits are enforced.


Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong (again)?  :)


Packet libz1 missing

2000-01-13 Thread Gerhard Heid
Hallo,
i need xserver-vga 3.3.5-2 for Nvidia Riva TNT2 graphic   i386 -unstable,
but dpkg needs libz1-Packet to be installed before. This Packet is not
listet at all.
How to solve this ?

Best  Regards

Gerhard


Re: mod_ssl

2000-01-13 Thread Brad
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 04:31:21PM -0200, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:
 
   Do you know how can I generate a certificate for a client? Is this
 possible with the mod-ssldebian package? Is there a way to generate such
 certificate without recurring to VerignSign or other CA? 

/usr/sbin/mod-ssl-makecert, it will also allow you to create your own CA
certificate if you choose the proper option.


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Re: mod_ssl

2000-01-13 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
You need to use the openssl tools. You don't need to user Verisign or other CA 
but
without doing that people will get pop-up boxes the first time they visit your 
site
about the certificate being signed by an unknown party. If they choose to keep 
the
certificate they won't be bothered again. I think the mod_ssl docs have an 
example on
how to generate the certificate.

Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:

 Hi,

 Do you know how can I generate a certificate for a client? Is this
 possible with the mod-ssldebian package? Is there a way to generate such
 certificate without recurring to VerignSign or other CA?
 This is intended for a private system (Intranet via Internet).
 I'm using potato.
 Thanks,
 []s,
 Mario O.de MenezesMany are the plans in a man's heart, but
 IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails
 http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
http://www.revistalinux.com.br

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samba copy permissions

2000-01-13 Thread zdrysdal
hiya

when using samba to copy one directory to another server it loses it
origional permission and owner settings.  i guess it's like when copying a
users file to another directory whilst under root... it allocates root as
the owner of that file.

is there any setting in samba to tell it to keep it's origional
permission/ownership rights??  else i will have to use tar in order to
recreate this new server.

thanx



dpkg: extract specific file?

2000-01-13 Thread Patrick Walsh
Can dpkg be used to extract a specific file from a .deb?

None of the switches listed in the man or --help leaps out as a 
candidate for this function.

[I've installed bash 2.03, 'info bash' now brings up the man page.
I'd like to reinstall the info file from the bash 2.02 .deb]

-- 
Patrick Walsh
Edmonton AB CA


Re: Packet libz1 missing

2000-01-13 Thread Damir J. Naden
Hi Gerhard Heid; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote:
 Hallo,
 i need xserver-vga 3.3.5-2 for Nvidia Riva TNT2 graphic   i386 -unstable,
 but dpkg needs libz1-Packet to be installed before. This Packet is not
 listet at all.
 How to solve this ?
 
 Best  Regards
 
 Gerhard

The potato distribution has package zlib1g_*, which provides the libz1
dependancy. So, by installing the latest zlib1g your problem should be
solved.
HTH,
damir


Re: dpkg: extract specific file?

2000-01-13 Thread Mike Werner
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 07:24:50PM -0700, Patrick Walsh wrote:
 Can dpkg be used to extract a specific file from a .deb?
 
 None of the switches listed in the man or --help leaps out as a 
 candidate for this function.

Dunno about dpkg, but Midnight Commander can do it.  Just fire up
mc, find the deb in question, highlight it, and hit enter.  Give it
a second or two and mc will open the deb like it was a directory,
allowing you to copy out individual files.

Note: mc can do that with deb's, rpm's, tar's, gz's, tgz's, etc.
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Re: dpkg: extract specific file?

2000-01-13 Thread Joey Hess
Patrick Walsh wrote:
 Can dpkg be used to extract a specific file from a .deb?
 
 None of the switches listed in the man or --help leaps out as a 
 candidate for this function.

dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile file.deb | tar xvf - file

Note that file may need to be ./path/to/file -- note the leading dot --
depending on what version of tar was used to generate the .deb file.

-- 
see shy jo


Re: Setting up 20 equal linux boxes -- More questions

2000-01-13 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya

On Mon, Jan 10, 2000 at 10:34:02PM +0100, Konrad Mierendorff wrote:
 Thanks for replies, I haven't been able to do a real-life test as the
 computers didn't arrive yet. In the meantime I got some remarks here
 which result in more questions.
 
 I got a reply the is not on the list from Steve Stancliff
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], he says:
 
  As others mentioned, NFS is the way to mount the 
  homes from the fileserver.  I advise not using 
  autofs for mounting the homes, just mount them 
  in fstab.  Autofs is very flaky.
 
 Could anyone comment on this and mention the pros and cons of both
 solutions?
 Why is autofs flaky?

autofs has minimal functionality to do simple/straight forwward
automounting... amd on the other hand has tons of features and options

good thing about autofs is it's part of the kernel...
and is simple to setup

http://www.linux-consulting.com/Amd_AutoFS/autofs-HOWTO.html

for 20 machinesautofs might be a good/simple/small/fast/reliable
solution...

a few years ago...i swapped out amd and used autofs...been using
it ever since..

 If you there are HOWTOs, FAQs, manuals or other resources on the web
 that answer all these question, please tell me!

have fun linuxing
alvin


keymaps directory

2000-01-13 Thread Lance Hoffmeyer

In what directory is the keymap file that is loaded at boot?  Something odd
has happened to my computer a couple of times where some different keymap 
than US becomes my keyboard at boot and my 'a' key is 'q' and a lot of other
keys change as well.  I can type 'loadkeys -d' and load the defualt but last 
time I found the file and replaced it with the default keymap.gz and that 
fixed the problem.  I have forgotten where I found that file.

Lance


rsh access

2000-01-13 Thread zdrysdal
hi

i asked this question before but no one answered... not too sure why as it
is not a cryptic question.  So, i will ask again.

To rsh a Unix host from Debian i have to put the Debain server address in
the .Rhosts file on the Unix Server and that works great.  I now want to
rsh a redhat linux server from my debian server...and i have no idea how to
get it to work.  I have added the debian server address in the
hosts.allow/deny files... but that does not seem to work.

Is there a step that i am missing???




wireless suggestions

2000-01-13 Thread Aaron Solochek
A friend and I want to connect our lan's via wireless ethernet and then
split a DSL.  Our houses are less than 300 ft apart, probably around
280ft, with line of sight.  We are looking to do this as cheaply as
possible.  Anyone with any suggestions for methods and/or products
I would greatly appreciate any help you could offer.  I know this isn't
really a debian question, but I figure we'll use debian routers on each
end, to make this post more relavent :)

-Aaron Solochek
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


ppp connections between sco linux

2000-01-13 Thread Peter Ludwig
Hi guys, just a quick one here, I'm trying to establish a connection between
a SCO box, and a linux machine.


However after the chat-script connects, I get the following messages from
the SCO machine :-
--- Log file Snip -
1/13-18:15:38-1308 Chat script succeeded
1/13-18:15:38-1308 Sending LCP Configure-Request, ID 110, state Starting (1)
1/13-18:15:38-1308  ^M
1/13-18:15:38-1308 ~
1/13-18:15:38-1308 Received LCP Configure-Request, ID 110, state Req-Sent
(6)
1/13-18:15:38-1308 LCP: Replying with Configure-Ack
1/13-18:15:38-1308 Sending LCP Configure-Ack, ID 110, state Req-Sent (6)
1/13-18:15:38-1308 Received LCP Configure-Ack, ID 110, state Ack-Sent (8)
1/13-18:15:38-1308 Sending IPCP Configure-Request, ID 102, state Starting
(1)
1/13-18:15:38-1308 Received IPCP Configure-Request, ID 102, state Req-Sent
(6)
1/13-18:15:38-1308 IPCP: Replying with Configure-Ack
1/13-18:15:38-1308 Sending IPCP Configure-Ack, ID 102, state Req-Sent (6)
1/13-18:15:38-1308 Received IPCP Configure-Ack, ID 102, state Ack-Sent (8)
1/13-18:15:38-1308 PPP connected to 192.168.1.204 on du2
1/13-18:15:38-1308 Missed ALLSTATIONS, flushing frame
1/13-18:16:38-1308 LQM: Too many Echo packets lost
1/13-18:16:38-1308 Disconnected from 192.168.1.204 (LQM failure)
1/13-18:16:38-1308 Sending LCP Terminate-Request, ID 117, state Opened (9)
1/13-18:16:38-1308 Hangup
--- Log file Snip -

This is the response of the logfile from the SCO box, on the linux box, the
messages are very similar.

I have tried almost everything, but I can't seem to get the systems to
connect to each other using ppp.

I can get a normal call from the SCO machine to the linux machine, and I see
no errors in the line (no line noise).

I'm wondering if there is a setting that could be causing this on Linux?

I can't remember the PPP version(s) at present.

Regards
Peter   Ludwig

BTW - Can you CC me directly, at this email address as I am not on the list
from this email account.



Re: rxvt/vim/term?

2000-01-13 Thread Steve Stancliff
Just FYI this same problem began for me under wterm after a 
recent upgrade of vim.  The solution mentioned (don't set term
type to linux) worked for me too.  

-Steve Stancliff


Re: APT with partial set of files

2000-01-13 Thread John Pearson
On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 02:42:46PM -0800, Ross Boylan wrote
 I have downloaded a bunch of the .deb's for potato, preserving the
 directory structure.
 I also got the Packages files
 
 I assumed when I did this that apt would not care if some .deb files were
 missing, and would simply look at other sources for them.  Is that correct?
 

Unless it wants to install them, it shouldn't matter if they are in the
Packages file but not in the archive.

 I also assumed that with CD's it would prompt for inserting additional
 CD's.  Is that correct?  Or do I need packages files which indicate which
 CD has which files?  Is there a good way to generate those?
 

If you have a CD containing (some portion of) the Debian archive, then
 # apt-cdrom add
will look for and use the Packages files on a CD to determine what
packages are available on it.  Run it once for each CD.  There's nothing
magical about CD packages files, but using apt-cdrom alerts apt to do 
things like check that the correct CD is mounted and prompt for the
required CD if not.


John P.
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Re: sawmill

2000-01-13 Thread John Pearson
On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 02:43:02PM -0800, Jim McCloskey wrote
 
 | I would like to give sawmill a try. So I tried apt-get --compile
 | source to grab the potato sources and build in my machine. The
 | process failed (it seems that I have old dpkg-utils?). Any hints on
 | how can I compile sawmill in my machine?
 
 You can get the tar-ball and compile it yourself. The instructions for
 doing this at the main sawmill site are fairly detailed.
 
 http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~john/sw/sawmill/
 
 There's also an unofficial deb for slink available at:
 
 http://www.devin.com/sawmill/
 
 I've not tried this (and the person who created the package has a
 disclaimer on the site  about how inexperienced he is in creating
 debian packages), but there it is,
 
 Jim
 

I don't recall whether it is sawmill itself or the rep-* packages
it requires (or both), but somewhere along the way you need to have 
$DISPLAY pointing to an accessible X server to build these packages.


John P.
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setserial, stty not working

2000-01-13 Thread matthschulz
I'm trying to setup a connection of an multimeter to ttyS0. It gives a steady
stream of lines to the port. (CONRAD VC96 for whom who knows)

When I use minicom for this, it works fine. The input is written on the sceen,
can be saved and so on. I can leave minicom with ^A^Q and then cat /dev/ttyS0
writes the lines to the screen.

But I have planned to program some functions to this stream at least maximum,
minimum, average and others. 

So I tried to do the following in order to get rid of minicom:

stty -F /dev/ttyS0 -parenb cs8 cstopb cread ixon isig ispeed 1200

to set the required 1200,8,N,2.

I couldn't change the setting of the port at all. stty -F /dev/ttyS0 -a shows
the change, but cat /dev/ttyS0 shows nothing.

The permissions are: crw-rw   1 root dialout4,  64 Dec 28 21:00
/dev/ttyS0; I'm in the group dialout, but only minicom changes actualy the
settings - nothing else I found - stty and setserial.

Any ideas?

Matth


Re: rsh access

2000-01-13 Thread Christopher S. Swingley
 rsh a redhat linux server from my debian server...and i have no idea how to
 get it to work.  

To do this you need four things on your Red Hat system (or any UNIX for
that matter):

* The user's home directory on the remote machine must have a 
  ~/.rhosts file with the address of the local machine.

* The remote machine must have the shell line in /etc/inetd.conf
  uncommented:

  shell  stream  tcp  nowait  root  /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/in.rshd

* The /etc/hosts.allow file must allow in.rshd from your local 
  machine:

  in.rshd: local_machine

* You may also need to make sure the portmapper is running on the
  remote machine, and that your local machine has access to it.
  In Debian, this is also done with /etc/hosts.allow, but remember
  that the portmapper only understands IP addresses:

  portmap: 192.1.4.

  will allow 192.1.4.0 thru 192.1.4.255

Of course the server machine also has to have in.rshd installed and all
of that.  Also don't forget to restart the inetd daemon on the remote
server if you change your /etc/inetd.conf file.

Hope this works!

Chris
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RE: wireless suggestions

2000-01-13 Thread Hagen Finley
I've installed Breezecom for the San Francisco Zoo in several locations and
it has performed very well. Unfortunately, the Access Point is around $1250
wholesale and the Station adapter is around $650. Your 300 ft line of sight
is well within specs, and you would probably see around 3Mbs between your
computers. But for $2000 I would think it would make more sense to get your
own DSL. I am not familiar with any wireless systems that are substantially
cheaper, but that certainly doesn't mean they don't exist.

Kind regards,

Hagen Finley
Longs Drugs
Walnut Creek, CA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Aaron
Solochek
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 7:45 PM
To: debian- user
Subject: wireless suggestions


A friend and I want to connect our lan's via wireless ethernet and then
split a DSL.  Our houses are less than 300 ft apart, probably around
280ft, with line of sight.  We are looking to do this as cheaply as
possible.  Anyone with any suggestions for methods and/or products
I would greatly appreciate any help you could offer.  I know this isn't
really a debian question, but I figure we'll use debian routers on each
end, to make this post more relavent :)

-Aaron Solochek
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: dpkg: [disregard] how to extract specific file

2000-01-13 Thread Patrick Walsh
Disregard, I've stumbled back on to the bash-doc .deb, and now
understand that dpkg-dev is needed to extract files :)

-- 
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Edmonton AB CA


RE: Handheld computers - what is available?

2000-01-13 Thread John Gay


I have a customer who runs a van distribution system.

He wants his drivers to use handheld computers or barcode readers
when they visit shops, to pick up the list of items needing to
be replenished.  He then wants to print a delivery note on the
spot for the customer and transmit the details by modem, for the
main office to print and despatch the invoice and update the
central database.

What Linux-capable handhelds are available that would be
suitable for this job?

The Palm family of hand-held devices has quite a few tools available for Linux,
I've just installed jpilot the I use with xcopilot and it seems to do quite a
lot. For Barcode capacity, I believe Symbol has packaged the Palm with a barcode
reader built-in. I remember an article about Safeway in the UK was going to give
some of these away to it's customers, but I never heard how that went. There are
also quite a few programming tools for Palms available in Linux as well.

Don't mind my E-Mail address, I am a test support tech, not a sales droid. I,
Personally find the Palm family to be very nice, and it seems that a majority of
hand-held users feel the same way. As I said, Symbol is selling them, IBM is
selling them and more people are signing on to licience the OS for there own
uses. The Visor from Handspring looks even better that Palm, but USB for Linux
won't work with it right now. Seems the USB driver won't reconise the Visor
until you activate the HotSync, but all the Palm tool expect to connect to the
device BEFORE you HotSync.

Other hand-held options are;
WinCE . . . I know nothing about Linux support for these. Does it exist?
Psion . . . I believe there is some support for Linux, I remember seeing a
package for it once.
Apple Newton . . . Has been completely dropped.

Could others please add to this list? I don't want to sound TOO biased.

This is what I know. I hope some other people out there can add their knowledge.

Cheers,

 John Gay



Re: TeX and PDF

2000-01-13 Thread Johann Spies
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Jim McCloskey wrote:

 
 |  i want to turn this into a pdf so i can get hard copy and stick it
 | on my wall.  i can get hard copy (and stick it on a wall :) myself,
 | the problem is turning it into a pdf.
 
 The standard tetex distribution includes pdftex. Simply running:
 
  pdftex foo
 
 on the file `foo.tex' should produce foo.pdf.
 
 Jim

And if that does not produce the desired result, do a 
latex foo
dvips foo
ps2pdf foo.ps

Johann.

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Tel/Faks 033-346-1310 Sel/Cell 082-255-2388
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  lest he fall.I Corinthians 10:12 


Re: keymaps directory

2000-01-13 Thread Johann Spies
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote:

 
 In what directory is the keymap file that is loaded at boot?  Something odd
 has happened to my computer a couple of times where some different keymap 
 than US becomes my keyboard at boot and my 'a' key is 'q' and a lot of other
 keys change as well.  I can type 'loadkeys -d' and load the defualt but last 
 time I found the file and replaced it with the default keymap.gz and that 
 fixed the problem.  I have forgotten where I found that file.
 
 Lance

On Slink: /etc/kbd/default.map.gz

Johann
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  lest he fall.I Corinthians 10:12 


RTL8139

2000-01-13 Thread Tim Nicholas
Hey there all, 

I have just been trying to compile a new kernel (2.2.14) but i can not
find the option to add support for the rtl8139 chipset 10/100 cards. 
They are reltivly common and there is documentation for them with the
source but not the option to select in either 'make menuconfig' or 'make
config'. 
I am farly sure that i could use this card type in 2.2.12 and _know_
that it can be used with slinks default kernel (2.0.38?) so i should be
able to use it with this.

any help would be most apreciated... 

ps. what happened to the packages 'squake' and 'xquake'??


Thanks.

Tim

-- 

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Let the frantic Goddess and delerious drunk cry
together in shadow for the puppy's sad stare,
the forest and the death of the moon.


X doesn't start any more

2000-01-13 Thread Guyren G Howe
Hi all,

After choosing afterstep and some other stuff in dselect, when I reboot my
machine, it says it's starting kdm, but nothing happens. And when I do exec
xdm, it just logs me out.

Any idea how to fix this?

Thanks! 


Re: samba copy permissions

2000-01-13 Thread Paul McAvoy
If you are copying between two unix machines it might be easier to just use
NFS to mount the drives and copy the files over via cpio or something similar.
I think that since samba is based in windos without much in the way of
permissions, all the permissions get lost.

I personally run into problems with samaba when a user will create a dir and I
want to put/remove files into it and have problems.  I then have to telnet
into my linux box and fix the permissions.  Kindof a bummer, but at least the
unix box is visible from windows.

Hope this helps you out.

- Paul

On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 03:20:18PM +1300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hiya
 
 when using samba to copy one directory to another server it loses it
 origional permission and owner settings.  i guess it's like when copying a
 users file to another directory whilst under root... it allocates root as
 the owner of that file.
 
 is there any setting in samba to tell it to keep it's origional
 permission/ownership rights??  else i will have to use tar in order to
 recreate this new server.
 
 thanx
 
 
 
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Re: rsh access

2000-01-13 Thread Paul McAvoy
Don't know too much about rsh, but you would probably be better off with SSH
as it is (more) secure and offers the same functionality.

- Paul

On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 04:07:10PM +1300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi
 
 i asked this question before but no one answered... not too sure why as it
 is not a cryptic question.  So, i will ask again.
 
 To rsh a Unix host from Debian i have to put the Debain server address in
 the .Rhosts file on the Unix Server and that works great.  I now want to
 rsh a redhat linux server from my debian server...and i have no idea how to
 get it to work.  I have added the debian server address in the
 hosts.allow/deny files... but that does not seem to work.
 
 Is there a step that i am missing???
 
 
 
 
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Re: setserial, stty not working

2000-01-13 Thread Bostjan JERKO
On 13.01.2000 08:38:00 AM matthschulz wrote:


The permissions are: crw-rw   1 root dialout4,  64 Dec 28 21:00
/dev/ttyS0; I'm in the group dialout, but only minicom changes actualy the
settings - nothing else I found - stty and setserial.


So you tried with setserial, too ?

B.


portmap question

2000-01-13 Thread Mark Wagnon
I can't seem to figure out how to keep portmap from starting when I
reboot. I've changed all references to portmap in the rc*.d
directories from the S##portmap form to a K##portmap form. That
doesn't seem to keep the portmapper from starting.

I have to kill it each time I reboot. Just in case I forget though,
I've added the following to my /etc/hosts/deny file:

  portmap: ALL: (/usr/sbin/safe_finger -l @%h | mail root) 

and I've removed the various NFS-related packages.

I read a few solutions to this problem in the archives, and they
range from renaming the portmap binary to editing the script in
/etc/init.d. I didn't want to resort to these little hacks. Is there
a way to keep it from starting in the first place?

Also, why is portmap included in the netbase package anyway?

tia...

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Re: setserial, stty not working

2000-01-13 Thread Paul McAvoy
Using 'cat' probably opens the port in buffered mode.. where the contents of
the buffer are not outputted until a \n is seen.  I may not be correct about
this, but I have played around with writing some serial apps and doing the
same thing you are doing.. hooking up my multimeter to the serial port.

If you are interested in some test programs, let me know and I will send them
to you.. it may help resolve your problem.

- Paul

On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 10:50:57PM -0600, matthschulz wrote:
 I'm trying to setup a connection of an multimeter to ttyS0. It gives a steady
 stream of lines to the port. (CONRAD VC96 for whom who knows)
 
 When I use minicom for this, it works fine. The input is written on the sceen,
 can be saved and so on. I can leave minicom with ^A^Q and then cat /dev/ttyS0
 writes the lines to the screen.
 
 But I have planned to program some functions to this stream at least maximum,
 minimum, average and others. 
 
 So I tried to do the following in order to get rid of minicom:
 
 stty -F /dev/ttyS0 -parenb cs8 cstopb cread ixon isig ispeed 1200
 
 to set the required 1200,8,N,2.
 
 I couldn't change the setting of the port at all. stty -F /dev/ttyS0 -a shows
 the change, but cat /dev/ttyS0 shows nothing.
 
 The permissions are: crw-rw   1 root dialout4,  64 Dec 28 21:00
 /dev/ttyS0; I'm in the group dialout, but only minicom changes actualy the
 settings - nothing else I found - stty and setserial.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Matth
 
 
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Re: keymaps directory

2000-01-13 Thread Paul McAvoy
The keymaps for loadkeys on my system (debian) are in /usr/share/keymays/i386/

You can also just do a 'loadkeys us' to reload the map if you are using the us
map.. or 'loadkeys dvorak' if you prefer a dvorak keyboard.  The path to the
loaded keymap will be displayed.

- Paul

On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 09:00:27PM -0600, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote:
 
 In what directory is the keymap file that is loaded at boot?  Something odd
 has happened to my computer a couple of times where some different keymap 
 than US becomes my keyboard at boot and my 'a' key is 'q' and a lot of other
 keys change as well.  I can type 'loadkeys -d' and load the defualt but last 
 time I found the file and replaced it with the default keymap.gz and that 
 fixed the problem.  I have forgotten where I found that file.
 
 Lance
 
 
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Re: Packet libz1 missing

2000-01-13 Thread Dänzer


--- Gerhard Heid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i need xserver-vga 3.3.5-2 for Nvidia Riva TNT2 graphic   i386 -unstable,
 but dpkg needs libz1-Packet to be installed before. This Packet is not
 listet at all.

As someone else has already said, it's provided by zlib1g.

APT would have sorted this out automatically.


Michel


=
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 -- Linus Torvalds

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Re: USR modem ZIP drive questions

2000-01-13 Thread Dänzer


--- Bruce Sass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Have you tried running irqtune from the hwtools package?

Nope, I just stumbled upon irqtune when reading the IPmasq (or was it diald?
;) HOWTO yesterday. I'll try it next weekend.


  1. I have a USR V90 56k modem. If I let it connect at anything above
  33600, the RX rate drops drastically - to around 1kB/s. Any suggestions?

But, do you think it will also help with this problem? It also shows up with
virtually no load...


Thanks,

Michel


=
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Hint: Finding packages with needed files

2000-01-13 Thread Dänzer


Let me comment on two different posts in one:


--- Cameron Matheson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone know where I can get libXpm.so.4?


--- Ron Farrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 jpeg.h:8: jpeglib.h: No such file or directory
 jpeg.h:9: png.h: No such file or directory
 make: *** [atom.o] Error 1
 
 I haven't figured out what package these might be in if any. 


There's a simple solution to that kind of problems. There's a file called
Contents-i386.gz in the dists/your dist directory. It lists every single
file with the package that contains it.

So a 'zgrep file I need Contents-i386.gz' gives you the package(s) you have
to install.


Michel


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Re: RTL8139

2000-01-13 Thread Arcady Genkin
Tim Nicholas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have just been trying to compile a new kernel (2.2.14) but i can not
 find the option to add support for the rtl8139 chipset 10/100 cards. 
 They are reltivly common and there is documentation for them with the
 source but not the option to select in either 'make menuconfig' or 'make
 config'. 

If you do make menuconfig, go to the very first option, Code
maturity level options, and say Y to Prompt for development
drivers. Then the driver will appear under Network device support
- Ethernet 10 or 100 Mbit.
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'What good is my pity? Is not the pity the cross upon which he who
loves man is nailed?..' (Zarathustra - F. Nietzsche)


Re: USR modem ZIP drive questions

2000-01-13 Thread Bruce Sass
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Michel Dänzer wrote:
 --- Bruce Sass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Have you tried running irqtune from the hwtools package?
 
 Nope, I just stumbled upon irqtune when reading the IPmasq (or was it diald?
 ;) HOWTO yesterday. I'll try it next weekend.
 
   1. I have a USR V90 56k modem. If I let it connect at anything above
   33600, the RX rate drops drastically - to around 1kB/s. Any suggestions?
 
 But, do you think it will also help with this problem? It also shows up with
 virtually no load...

Try doing a large zmodem download with minicom, if you get CRC
errors when the HD is active then irqtune should fix it up.

I had an 8MHz box with 4M RAM (the HD was always active ;) and couldn't
transfer files at anything over 2400 bps, it died and I picked up a
25MHz box which showed the same problem at 9600 bps... running irqtune
fixed it so that I could connect at 14.4 kbps without any errors.  When
I plugged in a 28.8 kbps modem the problem returned until I told irqtune
to optimize for the IRQ used by the new modem.  At no time did I have
any IRQ conflicts, so it must be that the priority (what irqtune fiddles
with) mattered. 

It's worth a try and is very simple to do.  Install hwtools, edit
/etc/rc.boot/hwtools so that it optimizes for the IRQ your serial port
uses, then execute the script (no need to reboot). See if it worked by
going online and checking the transfer rate.


- Bruce



Re: portmap question

2000-01-13 Thread Jim B
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Mark Wagnon wrote:

 I read a few solutions to this problem in the archives, and they
 range from renaming the portmap binary to editing the script in
 /etc/init.d. I didn't want to resort to these little hacks. Is there
 a way to keep it from starting in the first place?

slink right?

I commented out the lines that start it in /etc/init.d/netbase.  I think
that's as close as you're going to get as a best way to do it, because
it unfortunately is crammed in there with the rest of the stuff.


 Also, why is portmap included in the netbase package anyway?

I'm not sure.  There was probably a reason for it I guess.  It's been
split up in potato, it now has its own script which makes it cleaner to
deal with.


Worked it out

2000-01-13 Thread Guyren G Howe
I worked out why X wouldn't start (had my XFree86 config wrong).
Thanks anyway. 


Completion/M-tab

2000-01-13 Thread Blazej Sawionek
What does that mean?

B.


gzipped logs loose format

2000-01-13 Thread Blazej Sawionek
Old log files get gzipped (/var/log/*.?.gz).
When I view them with mc using F3 they appear to have lost their format. All 
end-of-lines are removed and the text is `justified' to approx. 80 columns. 
This makes the logs
very difficult to read and practically useless. When I ungzip the files and 
view them in the same way (mc - F3) - the effect is the same.
If I edit an uncompressed file with vim, or view it using `Shift-F3' it looks 
OK.

Is there an easy way to see the gzipped file correctly and quickly?

Blazej

PS
An example: kern.log.1.gz is attached here

kern.log.1.gz
Description: Binary data


Re: Soft ejects

2000-01-13 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
Fish Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The bottom line is, it isn't appropriate for my
 machine to be making decisions as to whether it is
 appropriate to eject a dis(k/c) or not.  I should be
 making those decisions because the machine is
 unreliable and if I make a bad decision then I, as the
 user, am the one who has to pay for my ignorance.
(and not the poor machine, I suppose ;) ... )
 Many windows users are uncomfortable with this idea,
 and that is perfectly sensical. (don't think that word
 exists, but hey, opposite of nonsensical, right?) They
 ought to just stick to windows, the inferior system
 that doesn't let you make mistakes (or intelligent
 decisions) and instead makes them for you.

Whow, all those super intelligent admins here ... I for all have many
times forgotten to unmount the floppy before taking it out, not to
talk about the users in our computer pool. (If you as an admin had to
come and help out the following user who can't use the drive then,
like me, you would maybe think a little bit more differently about
that.)

 Unlike many others, I don't share the view that linux
 needs to be made more newbie friendly.  Doing that
 will kill everything that made it great, and turn it
 into another Windoze.

I can't see how desktops like Gnome or others have taken away the
console from you, so you CAN both put in user friendlyness in the
system and have all Unix power remaining at the same time.

   I don't care if the entire
 world doesn't all use GNU systems, as long as I have
 them to get my work done.

But maybe without all this growing newbie user base GNU and Linux
wouldn't have developped as much as they do now.

   If somebody doesn't
 understand, I will be helpful and try to explain, but
 if they don't want to tolerate a system with a
 learning curve then they don't have to use it, and
 probably don't deserve to.  Leave this domain to those
 of us who do care to learn.

I wonder if 'learning' really involves to care about remembering
whether a floppy is mounted or not -- shouldn't using a computer
involve that it remembers just such stupid things for you? (Sure you
are using some scripts and cron instead of remembering all those
commands and tasks you seldomly has to do, aren't you?)

   There are times in Word when
 I need to use a lowercase letter /i/ as a word but it
 doesn't think I should.  This is precisely the reason
 we go to alternatives to M$, because M$ software
 always thinks it's smarter than we are and never is. 
 So don't go bringing M$isms to us and our
 alternatives, please.

(Talking about learning curves --) this is a user preference and can
be turned off (it's another question if it should be turned on by
default) -- you can have the same behaviour in emacs too.

I'm not pleading for 'more power to the machine, less for the user who
is knowing what she/he does', but I think my intelligence should be
allowed to concentrate on more meaningfull things as mounted or
unmounted floppies; but then there are things like autofs or other
'intelligent' programs which can take away those stupid tasks from me
-- let's work for making these tools (and their installation scripts)
more perfect, so these things don't bother us any more further on.

Greetings,
joachim


Re: mod_ssl

2000-01-13 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

 You need to use the openssl tools. You don't need to user Verisign or
 other CA but without doing that people will get pop-up boxes the first
 time they visit your site about the certificate being signed by an
 unknown party. If they choose to keep the certificate they won't be
 bothered again. I think the mod_ssl docs have an example on how to
 generate the certificate. 

maybe I didn't make myself clear: what I'm looking for is a tool to
make a certificate for browser client so that only certificated clients
can access certain parts of my site. 
I know that this is possible as you can use some directives in
httpd.conf to enforce this. 
And if you go to the security section of your browser (netscape) there
is a section where you can acquire a personal certificate (this is what I
want to provide) either from Verisign or importing a previous generated
one. 
Do you know how to do this?
Thanks,

[]s,
Mario O.de MenezesMany are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
   http://www.revistalinux.com.br


WinFast 3D L2300

2000-01-13 Thread Phil



I got a problem to setup x-window with video card 
"WinFast 3D L2300".
Have anyone installed this card? Which clockchip 
should be choose for it?

Phil


ncurses upgrade to 5.0 left a dangling package behind

2000-01-13 Thread Arcady Genkin
Under potato, after dselect upgraded ncurses to 5.0-X, one of the
older ncurses packages was left behind (ncurses-base 4.2). It now
shows as obsolete, but I'm a bit uncertain as to whether I should just
go ahead and remove it by brutal force. Can something break if I do
so?

,[ Dselect buffer ]
|-- Obsolete/local Required packages in section base --
| *** Req base ncurses-base 4.2-3.4 none
`

If I try to purge it, I get a very scary warning:

,[ Scary warning ]
| The following packages will be REMOVED:
|   ncurses-base* 
| WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed
| This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!
|   ncurses-base 
| 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
| Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 76.8kB will be freed.
| You are about to do something potentially harmful
| To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, I understand this may be bad'
|  ?]
`

Thanks for any input!
-- 
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'What good is my pity? Is not the pity the cross upon which he who
loves man is nailed?..' (Zarathustra - F. Nietzsche)


Adress magnager

2000-01-13 Thread Joakim Svensson
Hi list,

I am looking for a good way to handle all my adresses, email, phone numbers
etc.
Something like Adress book in netscape.

Any suggestions what to use ?

Best regards
Joakim Svensson


Re: X doesn't start any more

2000-01-13 Thread Ron Rademaker
Try reconfiguring X...

On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Guyren G Howe wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 After choosing afterstep and some other stuff in dselect, when I reboot my
 machine, it says it's starting kdm, but nothing happens. And when I do exec
 xdm, it just logs me out.
 
 Any idea how to fix this?
 
 Thanks! 
 
 
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Re: Adress magnager

2000-01-13 Thread Arcady Genkin
Joakim Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am looking for a good way to handle all my adresses, email, phone numbers
 etc.
 Something like Adress book in netscape.
 
 Any suggestions what to use ?

I've been using bbdb (available with [x]emacs) for a year, and am very
satisfied. The records have all necessary fields, custom fields are
supported, etc., is very easily searcheable, and integrates with
emacs-based emailers to automatically expand email addresses. You can
also snarf email addys from incoming messages by pressing just one
key.

HTH,
-- 
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loves man is nailed?..' (Zarathustra - F. Nietzsche)


Re: Soft ejects

2000-01-13 Thread Sean Johnson
I agree completely.

Sean

Joachim Trinkwitz wrote:
 
 Fish Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  The bottom line is, it isn't appropriate for my
  machine to be making decisions as to whether it is
  appropriate to eject a dis(k/c) or not.  I should be
  making those decisions because the machine is
  unreliable and if I make a bad decision then I, as the
  user, am the one who has to pay for my ignorance.
 (and not the poor machine, I suppose ;) ... )
  Many windows users are uncomfortable with this idea,
  and that is perfectly sensical. (don't think that word
  exists, but hey, opposite of nonsensical, right?) They
  ought to just stick to windows, the inferior system
  that doesn't let you make mistakes (or intelligent
  decisions) and instead makes them for you.
 
 Whow, all those super intelligent admins here ... I for all have many
 times forgotten to unmount the floppy before taking it out, not to
 talk about the users in our computer pool. (If you as an admin had to
 come and help out the following user who can't use the drive then,
 like me, you would maybe think a little bit more differently about
 that.)
 
  Unlike many others, I don't share the view that linux
  needs to be made more newbie friendly.  Doing that
  will kill everything that made it great, and turn it
  into another Windoze.
 
 I can't see how desktops like Gnome or others have taken away the
 console from you, so you CAN both put in user friendlyness in the
 system and have all Unix power remaining at the same time.
 
I don't care if the entire
  world doesn't all use GNU systems, as long as I have
  them to get my work done.
 
 But maybe without all this growing newbie user base GNU and Linux
 wouldn't have developped as much as they do now.
 
If somebody doesn't
  understand, I will be helpful and try to explain, but
  if they don't want to tolerate a system with a
  learning curve then they don't have to use it, and
  probably don't deserve to.  Leave this domain to those
  of us who do care to learn.
 
 I wonder if 'learning' really involves to care about remembering
 whether a floppy is mounted or not -- shouldn't using a computer
 involve that it remembers just such stupid things for you? (Sure you
 are using some scripts and cron instead of remembering all those
 commands and tasks you seldomly has to do, aren't you?)
 
There are times in Word when
  I need to use a lowercase letter /i/ as a word but it
  doesn't think I should.  This is precisely the reason
  we go to alternatives to M$, because M$ software
  always thinks it's smarter than we are and never is.
  So don't go bringing M$isms to us and our
  alternatives, please.
 
 (Talking about learning curves --) this is a user preference and can
 be turned off (it's another question if it should be turned on by
 default) -- you can have the same behaviour in emacs too.
 
 I'm not pleading for 'more power to the machine, less for the user who
 is knowing what she/he does', but I think my intelligence should be
 allowed to concentrate on more meaningfull things as mounted or
 unmounted floppies; but then there are things like autofs or other
 'intelligent' programs which can take away those stupid tasks from me
 -- let's work for making these tools (and their installation scripts)
 more perfect, so these things don't bother us any more further on.
 
 Greetings,
 joachim
 
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Re: wine_0.0.991212-1_i386.deb broken

2000-01-13 Thread Martin Bishop
Darxus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 DeltaForce2 and winmine work on my machine with wine_0.0.991114-2_i386.deb
  libwine_0.0.991114-2_i386.deb, but not with wine_0.0.991212-1_i386.deb 
 libwine_0.0.991212-1_i386.deb (the latest).
 
CUT

Do you know where I can get wine_0.0.991114-2_i386.deb and 
libwine_0.0.991114-2_i386.deb?

I've also upgraded to the latest wine and now it just crashed
with the same error messages as you.

I've searched on the debian sites for the older wine packages
but there's only the newer ones. I've also tried lycos ftp
search with no luck.


console characters display problem

2000-01-13 Thread Marek Habersack
Hi *,
  
  I have a problem with console fonts display. The scenario is as follows: I
load a font from /usr/share/consolefonts (namely iso02grf.psf which comes
with embedded SFM), load the appropriate keyboard map (pl02.map) and expect
to see the Polish diacritics on the screen. However, this is not the case.
Instead I see the old characters from the CP437. Now, using showcfont
reveals that the characters are where they should be! A simple experiment:

 showkey --keymap

I press some keys that should produce the Polish diacritics (e.g.
RtAlt-l should give me E with a hatch) and I see the hex keycode (in the
sample case it's 0xb3) and, instead of seeing the character I expected, the
display shows me a character that in the table produced by showcfont
corresponds to one at the position 0xc7. Funnily enough, the character on
position 0xb3 in the same table is exactly the one I wanted to see! This
happens not only when I type, but also when I try to read some text with
Polish diacritics.

The machine runs latest potato. The thing is that at home, with the same
potato, everything works just fine!

I tried all combinations of consolechars invocations - with and without ACMs
and SFMs and it still doesn't display as it should even though the keyboard
produces correct codes...

Anyone has any idea what it might be? :)

marek


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Re: mouse refuses to configure!

2000-01-13 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 03:33:20PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Joshua N Pritikin wrote:
  + The mouse hardware and cables are okay because the mouse works fine in
  Windows 95.
 
  + I suspected gpm so I disabled it with gpm -k and removed the startup
  file from /etc/rc6.d.
 
 Does the mouse work in GPM?  Did you try gpmconfig in a console?  That might 
 help
 identify the device and protocol
 
  + I tried /dev/ttyS0-ttyS4 and some other random devices.  /dev/mouse
  is symlink'd to /dev/ttyS0.
 
 Did you try /dev/psaux with mouse type PS2?

That was the problem.  As soon as I tried /dev/psaux, the mouse started
working.

Thanks!

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2.0.36 SMP

2000-01-13 Thread Jack Morgan



I have an Abit BP6 board with two celron 400mhz and I want to do SMP and 
possible overclocking. I am planning to do a clean install of GNU Debian 2.1 
(slink)Advice, links and comments, please : -)


Prospective Newbie

2000-01-13 Thread Charles O. Hartman
(My state: I've used computers for 30 years, but no Intel machines for
10 [so I don't know modern hardware  interfaces], and Linux never.)

I'd like to install Linux (dip toe in water!) on an ancient Zeos machine
(AMD 386DX, 6Mb RAM, 120Mb disk). However, this machine has no CD drive,
and no net connection yet.

1) Is it reasonable to try to install a beginner's system on this
machine from floppies?

2) Is there a way to do so with only a Mac connection to the net for
downloading the disk images? (The problem: when a Mac writes or even
reads an IBM floppy, it puts on a couple of hidden files that, though
just 1k, make a file like base14-1.bin not fit.)

3) If the floppy idea is crazy, should I pay MEI-Micro $25 for an EIDE
controller and $40 for a CD drive?

Sorry for numskull questions; I promise to get smarter if I can get
Linux going.

Charles Hartman
Poet in Residence, Connecticut College
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Reinstalling Packages

2000-01-13 Thread mike ber
Is it possible to go back to the point where you are asked which Tasks or 
Profiles you want installed.

Thanks.


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Re: Reinstalling Packages

2000-01-13 Thread Martin Bialasinski
* mike == mike ber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

mike Is it possible to go back to the point where you are asked which
mike Tasks or Profiles you want installed.  Thanks.

No, not in Debian 2.1
It will be possible in Debian 2.2

Ciao,
Martin


Re: gzipped logs loose format

2000-01-13 Thread Martin Bialasinski
* Blazej == Blazej Sawionek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Blazej When I view them with mc using F3 they appear to have lost
Blazej their format. All end-of-lines are removed and the text is
Blazej `justified' to approx. 80 columns. This makes the logs very
Blazej difficult to read and practically useless. When I ungzip the
Blazej files and view them in the same way (mc - F3) - the effect is
Blazej the same.

mc does syntax highlighting and preprocessing based on the
filename/extention.

kern.log.1 looks like a manpage for the parser. It pipes the file
through nroff (I think), which formats the text.

File a wishlist grade bug on mc if you like. Don't know if it is
possible to put in an exception to the bahaviuor, but I can check when 
I have some time (in an month or so).

Blazej Is there an easy way to see the gzipped file correctly and
Blazej quickly?

Put eval $(lesspipe) into /etc/profile or such some, then less will do 
on the fly decompression of files.

Ciao,
Martin


Re: Reinstalling Packages

2000-01-13 Thread Dänzer


--- Martin Bialasinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 * mike == mike ber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 mike Is it possible to go back to the point where you are asked which
 mike Tasks or Profiles you want installed.  Thanks.
 
 No, not in Debian 2.1
 It will be possible in Debian 2.2

And how is it possible in potato?


Michel


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ICE-WM middle mouse task list + gnome

2000-01-13 Thread Neilen Marais
Good day all

I am running a fairly recent potato, with Gnome and IceWM. When I
updated, the task list that the middle mouse button on the root window
used to bring up stopped appearing.  This seems to have something to do
with the Ice Gnome integration, because if I turn this off, I get the
middle menu back, but it interferes with too much of the rest of Gnome

So what I want to know, is if possible, how can I get the middle mouse
button menu back?

Thanks
Neilen


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Re: wireless suggestions

2000-01-13 Thread Alberto Brealey G.

On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 09:45:04PM -0600, Aaron Solochek wrote:
 A friend and I want to connect our lan's via wireless ethernet and then
 split a DSL.  Our houses are less than 300 ft apart, probably around

i've been using Lucent's WaveLAN products to setup a 'WISP' for a month now,
and even with many oopses, we're doing fine. right now i'm using a wireless
connection with Lucent stuff to get to a leased line 2 miles away, and we
get around 1.5Mbps. Also, i have done some tests with a laptop, walking
around the street near to the wireless POP, and works fine. The WaveLAN is
supported under Linux, so you should be fine.

 280ft, with line of sight.  We are looking to do this as cheaply as
 possible.  Anyone with any suggestions for methods and/or products

i don't know how much is cheap, but i think these cards are around $150
each, and you need a PCMCIA adaptor (or a laptop), and that's another $100
or so.

Also, there is a similar line from Cabletron, cheaper, but i don't think
their products work under linux, i don't remember.

hope that helps you,

Alberto.

ps. i don't have nothing to do with Lucent, just use their products.


Re: Reinstalling Packages

2000-01-13 Thread Chanop Silpa-Anan
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 06:48:10AM -0800, Michel Dänzer wrote:
 
 
 --- Martin Bialasinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  * mike == mike ber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  mike Is it possible to go back to the point where you are asked which
  mike Tasks or Profiles you want installed.  Thanks.
  
  No, not in Debian 2.1
  It will be possible in Debian 2.2
 
 And how is it possible in potato?
 
try recent base-config and tasksel packaae

Chanop
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Installing VMWare on Debian

2000-01-13 Thread Alberto Brealey G.

I want to install the newest (1.1.2) VMWare under debian, but i see that
they changed the program locations a while ago, so now everything goes on
/usr, instead of /usr/local. I tried to run alien on the tgz, but it fails.
Is there any way of installing VMWare without screwing dpkg by putting stuff
under /usr? I'm using potato.

thanks,

alberto


Re: Reinstalling Packages

2000-01-13 Thread Martin Bialasinski
Task selection in Debian 2.2 will be done by 

$ apt-cache show tasksel
Package: tasksel
Version: 1.0-2
Priority: optional
Section: base
Maintainer: Randolph Chung [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Depends: libc6 (= 2.1), slang1 ( 1.3.0-0)
Architecture: i386
Filename: dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/base/tasksel_1.0-2.deb
Size: 13712
MD5sum: 67e68909e8770052c4e31622a232dade
Description: New task packages selector
 Interface for selecting task packages; used for boot-floppies, but can also
 be called independently
installed-size: 108

The task selection in Debian 2.1 uses dpkg --set-selection, therefore
it is not save to use it after installation (it is deletes itself).

The new system will use apt-get to install the task-* packages. Apt
will resolve dependancies (easier to handle wrt to task creation and
update), and unlike with dpkg --set-selection, one can not have a
state that two conflicting packages are marked for installation.

You can also install a task-* package with the usual means. It is just
a regular package.

Ciao,
Martin


Re: RTL8139

2000-01-13 Thread aphro
it is in there, i use it currently...enable support for i PCI VLB and
onboard adapters i think the option is and a new set of NICs will show
including the rtl8139.

nate

On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Tim Nicholas wrote:

tim Hey there all, 
tim 
tim I have just been trying to compile a new kernel (2.2.14) but i can not
tim find the option to add support for the rtl8139 chipset 10/100 cards. 
tim They are reltivly common and there is documentation for them with the
tim source but not the option to select in either 'make menuconfig' or 'make
tim config'. 
tim I am farly sure that i could use this card type in 2.2.12 and _know_
tim that it can be used with slinks default kernel (2.0.38?) so i should be
tim able to use it with this.
tim 
tim any help would be most apreciated... 
tim 
tim ps. what happened to the packages 'squake' and 'xquake'??
tim 
tim 
tim Thanks.
tim 
tim Tim
tim 
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tim 
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Re: wine_0.0.991212-1_i386.deb broken

2000-01-13 Thread Rick Macdonald

Off-topic, but does anybody know if Corel's wine dev efforts have been fed
back to the wine project?

...RickM...


Re: 2.0.36 SMP

2000-01-13 Thread aphro
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Jack Morgan wrote:

yojack I have an Abit BP6 board with two celron 400mhz and I want to do SMP and
yojack possible overclocking. I am planning to do a clean install of GNU 
Debian 2.1
yojack (slink) Advice, links and comments, please : -)
yojack 

I would STRONGLY suggest AGAINST the BP6 if you are making a machine to do
work that requires uptime, if its just a home machine and you dont mind
random lockups then BP6 is fine.  Overclocking a dual processor machine is
also dangerous, especially on the BP6 as it adds more stress to an already
overstressed board.  It can be done, i suggest if you go with the BP6
install it as quickly as possible and do VERY intense burnin tests (i
suggest using the 2.2.10 kernel to start, move to 2.2.14 lateron if you
like).

If you..

have 64MB of ram = run 6 copies of [EMAIL PROTECTED] on different VTs (or in
screens)

have 128MB of ram = run 10 copies of [EMAIL PROTECTED] on different VTs

use lm_sensors to monitor CPU temp, i also suggest against using the stock
intel fans go with FDP32s (or is it FEP32 i forget which) also put
heatsink grease and a fan on the i440BX chip on the board and deck the
machine out with high speed fans. for the test i also suggest not using
the DMA66 controller if you are IDE (my BP6 is full scsi) after the test
go ahead and use it.  The intel fans made my BP6 with 466Mhz cpus go to
50C, now my CPUs with FDP(or FEP?)32 fans are ~27-33C.  Although i havent
run [EMAIL PROTECTED] in a few months.

Let the machine run for 3 days, if it is still going (and processing the
seti data) then the machine can be declared a hell of a lot more stable
then mine :)  my machine would lockup in ~20 minutes.  i discovered this
well after my warranty expired, i spent over a month troubleshooting my
machine, some people have good boards, i suppose i could go buy a new BP6
and run more tests on it and return if needed, but i have little hope that
i would find a good one.

bottom line though is, run very intensive I/O and CPU tests on it for an
extended period before deciding that the board is good.

nate

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