Book opinions?
Hi, Well, I'm getting ready to install Debian for the first time and would like to get the groups opinion on a book I'm going to purchase. The book's title is Debian GNU/Linux Bible and was published this year. I plan on using the CD to do my install. Thanks. Wayne
Re: Packaging WM themes - question
On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 07:18:31PM +0200, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote: Ben Burton wrote: ... so you get a bigger machine for the job. I suspect the point of Casper's post was that this is not always possible. I really have a hard time believing that. Unfortunatly this is exactly what I mean. For example I've been following an Internet browser called Arachne (http://www.arachne.cz) for a long time. It is a fully graphical browser for DOS which has also been ported to Linux. It's mostly used by people that can't/won't use windows. At a certain time changes were made that prevented Arachne from running on 286's. A hughe roar was made by the community, clearly showing that many people are still depending on old hardware, even in rich countrys. Come on! I don't mean to be ignorant, but a 286 is 18 years old. The 386 is only 3 years younger. No one is depending on hardware this old -- not even in schools. At least not in Europe or North America. I believe that this is rather motivated by wanting to put this old hardware to an usefull purpose -- an attitude that I most certainly appload. But this is all beside the point. The fact is, that one is still perfectly able to run Debian on a 386 with 8 MB of RAM, which coincidentelly is also the minimum requirement for running Linux in the first place. (Okay, so 4 MB might be enough, but only with some magic.) It might not be fast, but this is a 386 we're talking about. It simply isn't fast by todays standards [1]. But for some purposes it's good enough. Now, how is that lessened by the fact, that Debian takes ages to install on such a machine? Not at all. It's obviously a load-intensive job, so you get a bigger machine. And making that process less dependent on CPU power is not an option when this means that core functionality of apt is sacrificed (ie the ability to figure out dependencies). Simply because the vast majority of Debian users has no problem using it (at least speed-wise). No one forces you to use apt. If it's to slow for you, than don't use it, there are alternatives (eg Slackware, installing from sratch). Cheers, Viktor [1] IIRC, the 386 I installed recently had roughly more than 1 BogoMIPS. The 486 I tried a few days later had 7.88 BogoMIPS. This was the stock potato kernel 2.2.17pre-something I believe. The machine I'm sitting in front of right now, is a Celeron 333 -- not exactly the fastest machine in the world, but the fastest I have in my home. It has 680 BogoMIPS. I know that BogoMIPS are ... well, bogus, but I think it proves my point. What do you expect from that kind of performance?
RE: usb scanner setup?
Hi! On 24-May-2001 mikepolniak wrote: Has anyone had success setting up a usb scanner (e.g. Epson636u) with SANE in Debian ? If yes , are you satisfied with the results? I'm running an EpsonPerfection1200 USB with debian2.2 (woody) and gimp 1.2. It works great. Only when scanning higher resolutions above 600 dpi the systems hangs sometimes. CiaoThomas --- Diese Mail wurde mit XFMail unter Debian 2.2 erstellt
Re: Progeny install problems
I thought you get access to a progeny support mailing list or something if you buy a progeny box. Is this wrong?
Re: I've been getting scanned...
On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 02:39:46PM -0400, Paul Wright wrote: Hi all, Someone's been port-scanning me, checking only some high ports. Here are my relevant log entries: May 26 13:39:30 j001 ippl: port 37397 connection attempt from 216.136.179.238 May 26 13:43:03 j001 ippl: port 37404 connection attempt from 216.136.179.238 May 26 13:43:06 j001 ippl: port 37404 connection attempt from 216.136.179.238 May 26 13:45:55 j001 ippl: port 37406 connection attempt from 216.136.179.238 May 26 13:45:58 j001 ippl: port 37406 connection attempt from 216.136.179.238 May 26 13:47:10 j001 ippl: port 37408 connection attempt from 216.136.179.238 May 26 13:49:30 j001 ippl: port 37412 connection attempt from 216.136.179.238 Does anyone know what they may be looking for in that range? Looks to me like an FTP site you connected to, but the port numbers are a little high. Does anyone know of a good reference for info (vulnerabilities sorted by port, service, etc)? Add a deb-src line to unstable to your sources.list: 09:22 tty2 $ tail -2 /etc/apt/sources.list deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free and do apt-get -b source portsentry. Install the .deb it produces. You might also want logcheck. Thanks in advance for any help / advice. Hope this helps. Good luck in your job search. Rob -- Be nice to people on the way up, because you'll meet them on your way down. -- Wilson Mizner
Re: Free mail a/c that allows download of mail
Paul Wright wrote: I use gmx.net http://gmx.net/ . They also allow you to use them as your Smart Mailer using cram-md5 login. I use masqmail to fetch my mail from my gmx.net and another account and send all mail out through gmx. Works great for me, but they do require that you fill out a questionaire. No spam so far (three weeks) What about that crappy newspaper they sent out every week or so? Is there a way to disable it or don't you count that as spam? Viktor -- Viktor Rosenfeld WWW: http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~rosenfel/
Busybox: used for hacking or part of potato
I just found the following in /var/log/install.log Can someone tell me where / why it would be on a potato system? Thanks. - http://busybox.lineo.com/ Feb 14 22:14:49 (none) syslogd started: BusyBox v0.43 (2000.11.30-14:58+) Feb 14 22:14:52 (none) user.info dbootstrap[128]: Feb 14 22:15:27 (none) user.info dbootstrap[128]: mounting /dev/hda6 at /target Feb 14 22:15:43 (none) user.info dbootstrap[128]: mounting /dev/hda7 at /target/var Feb 14 22:16:04 (none) user.info dbootstrap[128]: unmounting partition mounted at /target/var Feb 14 22:16:23 (none) user.info dbootstrap[128]: mounting /dev/hda7 at /target/var Feb 14 22:16:29 (none) user.info dbootstrap[128]: mounting /dev/hda8 at /target/usr Feb 14 22:16:39 (none) user.err dbootstrap[128]: Please place the Debian CD-ROM in the CD-ROM drive. Feb 14 22:16:43 (none) user.info dbootstrap[128]: installing kernel and modules from /instmnt/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current Feb 14 22:16:58 (none) user.info dbootstrap[128]: kernel and modules install successful Feb 14 22:16:58 (none) user.info dbootstrap[128]: moving away /lib/modules to /lib/modules.old Feb 14 22:16:58 (none) user.info dbootstrap[128]: making /lib/modules a link to /target/lib/modules Feb 14 22:17:51 (none) user.info dbootstrap[128]: configured modules; modconf returned 27 Feb 14 22:17:58 (none) user.err dbootstrap[128]: Please place the Debian CD-ROM in the CD-ROM drive.
crontab -e issue
Hi, I tried running a program at 12.30 AM using cron. Here is my crontab file: SHELL=/bin/sh MAILTO=eric 00 1 * * * /usr/bin/mpg123 /home/eric/Personal/alarm/123.mp3 Now, the time is correct, and when I set it, it was before 1am. I can play mp3s manually. It doesn't play at 1am (not at all) and I get no emails from cron. What gives? -- Eric Boo Monday, May 28, 2001, 01:03 AM 1 hour and 38 minutes http://magicman.freeshell.org You tread upon my patience. -- William Shakespeare, Henry IV
swapon: device or resource busy
I recently changed my partition table, and ended up recreating a swap partition. Ever since then, I keep getting the error "swapon: device or resource busy". This is after running mkswap -c /dev/hda3 (where the current swap partition is) and updating fstab: /dev/hda3 none swap sw 0 0 I even created a new swap partition on /dev/hda7, added it to fstab, and also ran mkswap -c on it. Same thing. Any suggestions as to what could be causing this error? Thanks! Jen
Re: crontab -e issue
Verily, on 28 May 2001 01:06AM (+0800), Eric Boo thusly proclaimed: - Hi, - - I tried running a program at 12.30 AM using cron. Here is my crontab file: - - SHELL=/bin/sh - MAILTO=eric - 00 1 * * * /usr/bin/mpg123 /home/eric/Personal/alarm/123.mp3 Obvious typo above wrt time. sorry
Re: crontab -e issue
Okay, I know what's wrong. I set the thing to go off the next minute from the time I edited the crontab, but crond only loads the entry during the first second of the next minute, so the program won't play. There must be a minimum of 2 seconds from the time i crontab -e. Just for curiousity's sake, is there a way to reduce this 2 minutes to 1 minute? Thanks -- Eric Boo Monday, May 28, 2001, 01:19 AM 1 hour and 54 minutes http://magicman.freeshell.org There is always one thing to remember: writers are always selling somebody out. -- Joan Didion, Slouching Towards Bethlehem
Re: Packaging WM themes - question
On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 06:45:10PM +0200, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote: Come on! I don't mean to be ignorant, but a 286 is 18 years old. The 386 is only 3 years younger. No one is depending on hardware this old -- not even in schools. At least not in Europe or North America. You'd be shocked. I know of at least 2 schools in my town (120.000 inhabitants) that are _still_ using 386'es. They could do without them, but as long as they are low on funds, they are happy with anything they get. And I'm living in the Netherlands, which is rather wealthy. In countries with less money those old machines are even more wanted. But this is all beside the point. The fact is, that one is still perfectly able to run Debian on a 386 with 8 MB of RAM, which coincidentelly is also the minimum requirement for running Linux in the first place. (Okay, so 4 MB might be enough, but only with some magic.) It might not be fast, but this is a 386 we're talking about. It simply isn't fast by todays standards [1]. But for some purposes it's good enough. Now, how is that lessened by the fact, that Debian takes ages to install on such a machine? Not at all. It's obviously a load-intensive job, so you get a bigger machine. And making that process less dependent on CPU power is not an option when this means that core functionality of apt is sacrificed (ie the ability to figure out dependencies). Simply because the vast majority of Debian users has no problem using it (at least speed-wise). No one forces you to use apt. If it's to slow for you, than don't use it, there are alternatives (eg Slackware, installing from sratch). I think this is not changing the core functionality of apt at all. Instead I want to make use of an apt feature. One that has been implemented on purpose: the ability to use multiple sources of software. This is hardly different from a system with or without packages from the non-free section. If you don't want non-free software you remove it from sources.list and you're computer won't even know non-free software exists. Now do the same for eg. KDE. If a user doesn't want KDE, he removes the appropriate line from sources.list and apt/dselect won't know about KDE and will not be slowed down because of it. I repeat, this does _not_ changing apt in any way, and for most users their will be no noticable difference. -- Casper Gielen [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- People just generally like to disagree. Bill Joy
Re: problem running xf86cfg
Andrea Vettorello wrote: Philipp Bliedung wrote: hi I just upgraded to XFree 4.0.3 but when I try tu run xf86cfg I get this error message: [...] Any ideas how I can fix this? BTW what does the VidModeExtension do? Don't know if this can helps, but you could try using xf86cfg in textmode running xf86cfg -textmode, try looking in the man page for further options... Andrea Yes, xf86cfg -textmode works. Thanks! But I still can't figure out why I get this error. Philipp
Re: apt-utils
Dave Sherohman wrote:
When did apt-utils become mandatory? I just did an apt-get upgrade (in
testing) and it died immediately after downloading packages with the message
debconf: cannot preconfigure packages -- apt-utils is not installed
E: Failure running script /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || true
Installing apt-utils fixed this, but I thought it was supposed to be
optional.
It is supposed to be optional. In fact, I cannot see how it could
possibly be failing as you show. The || true is there so no matter what
status code dpkg-preconfigure returns, apt always sees a return code of
zero. The only possiblity I can think of is that perhaps apt is now
checking to see if the program read all of its input, and assuming it
failed if it chooses not to.
Jason, if it's doing that, I think that's a dumb heuistic. As you can
see, there are valid reasons for ignoring the input and not failing.
Dave, you might try the attached version of apt-extracttemplates, which
reads all the input no matter what (almost -- I can think of situations
where it will not read all of its input -- for example, suppose
/usr/bin/perl is broken -- and apt may refuse to continue, making it hard to
upgrade. That's why I think apt should not do this.)
(No, I don't want to use it until it actually works. In theory,
apt-utils is supposed to let you answer all the packages' questions up front.
In practice, every question that I answer up front is asked again later,
completely ignoring my previous answers. How is that supposed to be
helpful?)
I have never seen this behavior except for when people have told debconf
to re-show questions, or with a couple of broken packages that force
debconf to redisplay seen questions. In the default configuration, it
works, and has worked for a long time.
--
see shy jo
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
# This file was preprocessed, do not edit directly.
BEGIN {
eval qq{
use strict;
use FileHandle;
use Debconf::Log qw(:all);
use Debconf::Db;
use Debconf::Template;
use Debconf::Config;
use Debconf::AutoSelect qw(:all);
use Debconf::Gettext;
};
if ($@) {
print STDERR debconf: Perl may be unconfigured ($@) --
aborting\n;
exit 0;
}
}
Debconf::Db-load;
my $apt=0;
Debconf::Config-getopt( # TODO: i18n this? What's the best way to break it up?
qq{Syntax: dpkg-reconfigure [options] [debs]
--aptApt mode.},
apt = \$apt,
);
$|=1;
my @[EMAIL PROTECTED];
@ARGV=();
if ($apt) {
while () {
chomp;
push @debs, $_ if length $_;
}
exit unless @debs;
open (STDIN, /dev/tty) ||
(print STDERR sprintf(dpkg-preconfigure: .gettext(unable to
re-open stdin: %s), $!).\n, exit 0);
Debconf::Config-showold('false');
}
elsif (! @debs) {
print STDERR sprintf(dpkg-preconfigure: .gettext(must specify some
debs to preconfigure)), \n;
exit(1);
}
if (! -x /usr/bin/apt-extracttemplates) {
warn gettext((not preconfiguring packages since apt-utils is not
installed));
exit;
}
my $frontend=make_frontend();
my ($package, $version, $template, $config);
unless (open(INFO, -|)) {
exec apt-extracttemplates, @debs or
print STDERR debconf: exec of apt-extracttemplates failed: $!;
}
my @buffer=INFO;
if ($apt @buffer) {
print Preconfiguring packages ...\n;
}
foreach my $line (@buffer) {
($package, $version, $template, $config)=split /\s/, $line;
if (defined $template length $template) {
eval q{
Debconf::Template-load($template, $package)
};
unlink $template;
if ($@) {
print STDERR $package .sprintf(gettext(template
parse error: %s), $@).\n;
unlink $config;
next;
}
}
}
foreach my $line (@buffer) {
($package, $version, $template, $config)=split /\s/, $line;
if (defined $config length $config -e $config) {
debug user = preconfiguring $package ($version);
chmod(0755, $config) or
die sprintf(gettext(debconf: can't chmod: %s), $!);
$frontend-default_title($package);
my $confmodule=make_confmodule($config, 'configure', $version);
$confmodule-owner($package);
1 while ($confmodule-communicate);
if ($confmodule-exitcode 0) {
print STDERR sprintf(
gettext(%s failed to preconfigure, with exit
status %s),
$package, $confmodule-exitcode).\n;
}
unlink $config;
}
}
$frontend-shutdown;
Scrolling mouse
Hi there I use Logitech scrolling mouse which is connected in PS/2 , and I don't what to change to make the scrolling works.. can anyone help me? thanks regards, Reza __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
dpkg stopping with an error
Hello, I'm trying to compile Firestarter 0.7.1 on a Debian (unstable) system. After I got most of the dependencies correctly, I still needed one package to be installed, which is libgnomeprint11 Everytime I try to install this package, dpkg returns this: Setting up libgnomeprint11 (0.25-ximian.6) ... dpkg: error processing libgnomeprint11 (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 I don't know much on how dpkg works so right now I'm stumped (especially since this package is needed by many others !). What can I do to correct the situation ? Please : don't come up with don't use Ximian or switch to Debian/stable .. I want to keep my environment as it is; if I have to modify some scripts into the package so be it, I'll do it, but I don't want any solutions that make me rollback my environment :) Thanks to everyone :) Jeff
RE: problem running xf86cfg
XFree86 4.+ quit using xf86config, if you look at the install directions on xfree86.org beginning with xfree86 4.0 you should use the command xfree86 --configure wayne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Philipp Bliedung Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 12:24 PM To: Andrea Vettorello Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: problem running xf86cfg Andrea Vettorello wrote: Philipp Bliedung wrote: hi I just upgraded to XFree 4.0.3 but when I try tu run xf86cfg I get this error message: [...] Any ideas how I can fix this? BTW what does the VidModeExtension do? Don't know if this can helps, but you could try using xf86cfg in textmode running xf86cfg -textmode, try looking in the man page for further options... Andrea Yes, xf86cfg -textmode works. Thanks! But I still can't figure out why I get this error. Philipp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
x goes blank
I could install my mouse using gpm, but when i tried to start the x system (startx) i got some errors and the screen went blank. Now, every time i try to boot my Linux the screen goes blank. I can not use it. How can i fix it? Thanks, Rafael Sasaki
Hard drive errors in kernel output
Hey,
I enabled DMA in my kernel (w/ the VIA82 support), and now it works (my
hard drive writes are about six times faster), but now I get weird errors in
the kernel output:
Partition check:
hda:hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
hdb: DMA disabled
ide0: reset: success
Everything still works, so it's probably not a problem, but it is kind of
curious. Here's my hdparm output if that matters:
/dev/hda1:
multcount= 16 (on)
I/O support = 1 (32-bit)
unmaskirq= 1 (on)
using_dma= 1 (on)
keepsettings = 0 (off)
nowerr = 0 (off)
readonly = 0 (off)
readahead= 8 (on)
geometry = 3739/255/63, sectors = 59568957, start = 63
Anyone know what these errors might mean (and what they do?)
Thanks,
Cameron Matheson
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Getting the content of an RPM package
Hi folks, is ist possible to access the content of an RPM package, without actually installing it? I tried rpm --nodeps --prefix /tmp/foo package.rpm but it says that the package is not relocatable. Thanks, Viktor -- Viktor Rosenfeld WWW: http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~rosenfel/
Strange ARP problem
Summary: I'm setting up a 100baseTX network between 2 Debian'ish computers with a switch between them. The problem is that neither computer replies to an ARP request from the other (or maybe neither gets the other's ARP request). If I hand code the appropriate MAC address into /etc/ethers and then run arp -fon both boxes, the connection works. The details: I'm in the process of migrating from a 10base2 network to a 100basetx network. I need to keep everyone connected, so both networks must be up during the switch. One computer (Gateway) is a Debian Woody kernel 2.4.4. eth0 is static 192.168.1.10/255.255.255.0 serving the existing 10base2 network. eth1 is connected to the cable modem and is configured using DHCP. eth2 is static 192.168.100.10/255.255.255.0 serving the new 100basetx network, broadcast is 192.168.100.255. both eth0 and eth1 are ISA cards (dlink combo using ne drivers) the eth2 card is a Netgear FA311 using the driver that comes with 2.4.4 The other computer (Sandbox) is a Progeny 1.0 kernel 2.2.19 eth0 is static 192.168.100.9/255.255.255.0, 192.168.100.10 is the gateway, broadcast is 192.168.100.255 eth0 is a Netgear FA311 using the natsemi driver. The switch is a Linksys 8-port Workgroup Switch. When I run iptraf on Gateway, it shows the ARP requests going out but no ARP replies or ARP requests coming in. Could the switch be filtering out the ARP requests? I'm running ipchains on Gateway. Does ipchains filter ARP requests too? Any other ideas? Ed
Re: The following packages have been kept back
On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 06:53:16PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: aalib1: Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.2-2) but 2.1.3-18 is to be installed Depends: xlibs (= 4.0.1-11) but it is not installable E: Sorry, broken packages fot2:~# exit So I figure that I need to somehow upgrade my libc6 to 2.2.2-2. But apt-get says that '2.1.3-18 is to be installed' !? How do I get it to upgrade my libc6? For some reason, apt doesn't want to upgrade libc6 automatically. Try an `apt-get install libc6`; it'll probably just go right through, but you may get some warnings that point at why apt wanted to leave it alone. You should upgrade it, in any case. The current stable version is 2.2.2-4, so I'm not even sure that 2.1.3-18 is still available. -- That's not gibberish... It's Linux. - Byers, The Lone Gunmen Geek Code 3.12: GCS d? s+: a C++ UL$ P+ L+++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w--- O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv+ b+ DI D G e* h r y+
How To Get Gimp 1.2.1 For Debian 2.2r2 ?
Well my snazzy Debian 2.2r2 / KDE 2.1.1 setup is proving so much fun that I'd now like to add what seems to be one of the best goodies for Linux - namely the Gimp. But the Gimp that comes with Potato is ancient (1.0.x), and all reports are to the effect that Gimp 1.2.1 is so much better than any previous release that's it's a waste of time trying anything older. I've hunted around for any 1.2.1 debs for Potato, but haven't found any yet (I can't even find any postings on the topic, which is puzzling ..).. There appear to be 1.2.1 debs in testing and unstable, but they make me nervous ... (not recommended for stable systems ?). So what's the best advice : download tarballs for 1.2.1 from www.gimp.org, grab gtk+ glib from www.gtk.org, and compile everything up ? Does Debian need any patches to the vanilla source for any reason ? Are there any gotchas (particularly for those running KDE rather than Gnome) ? All answers gratefully received. Pointers to debs / HOWTOs / etc. traded for beverage of choice :-) [ PS: I have nothing against KDE's Krayon - haven't tried it yet - will later, but it seems to be at a much earlier development stage ] Nick Boyce Bristol, UK -- Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid. --- Frank Zappa
Re: Strange problem with Plextor IDE-Drive W121032A
I had a problem with Plextor drive a while ago. Your problem sounds vaguely familiar. Try switching DMA off for the plextor drive. In my case that was the solution. -- = mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ===http://www.geocities.com/astavitsky = GPG Key 0xF7343C8B: 68DD 1E1B 2C98 D336 E31F C87B 91B9 5244 F734 3C8B |_Alexander Stavitsky pgpyu9PcoeYm8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: apt-utils
On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 02:09:19PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: It is supposed to be optional. In fact, I cannot see how it could possibly be failing as you show. The || true is there so no matter what status code dpkg-preconfigure returns, apt always sees a return code of zero. I thought that was pretty odd too. I have never seen this behavior except for when people have told debconf to re-show questions, or with a couple of broken packages that force debconf to redisplay seen questions. In the default configuration, it works, and has worked for a long time. The two cases that spring to mind of apt-utils consistently reasking questions are ssh and apt-utils itself. (Although apt-utils is at least decent enough to remember, when making the second pass through, that I'd told it to use the text interface the first time around.) But I don't recall any cases where I've been asked a question in the preconfiguring stage and it didn't get repeated later. Doesn't mean it hasn't happened, of course, just that I don't remember it. -- That's not gibberish... It's Linux. - Byers, The Lone Gunmen Geek Code 3.12: GCS d? s+: a C++ UL$ P+ L+++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w--- O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv+ b+ DI D G e* h r y+
Re: How To Get Gimp 1.2.1 For Debian 2.2r2 ?
I dont know if there are any gimp1.2 binaries for stable. When I was living with teh stable, I just compiled gtk, glib and gimp manually. However, do not fear the unstable :) It's stable enough. Andrei -- First there was Explorer... Then came Expedition. This summer Coming to a street near you.. Ford Exterminator. -- Andrei Ivanov http://arshes.dyndns.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12402354 --
Re: How To Get Gimp 1.2.1 For Debian 2.2r2 ?
Well, I usually do just build gnome/gtk/gimp from source. It seems to give me a bit more control, and if you need the newest, the best way to go (in my opinion) is to build yourself, instead of relying on unofficial debs. Cameron Matheson On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 07:41:02PM +0100, Nick wrote: Well my snazzy Debian 2.2r2 / KDE 2.1.1 setup is proving so much fun that I'd now like to add what seems to be one of the best goodies for Linux - namely the Gimp. But the Gimp that comes with Potato is ancient (1.0.x), and all reports are to the effect that Gimp 1.2.1 is so much better than any previous release that's it's a waste of time trying anything older. I've hunted around for any 1.2.1 debs for Potato, but haven't found any yet (I can't even find any postings on the topic, which is puzzling ..).. There appear to be 1.2.1 debs in testing and unstable, but they make me nervous ... (not recommended for stable systems ?). So what's the best advice : download tarballs for 1.2.1 from www.gimp.org, grab gtk+ glib from www.gtk.org, and compile everything up ? Does Debian need any patches to the vanilla source for any reason ? Are there any gotchas (particularly for those running KDE rather than Gnome) ? All answers gratefully received. Pointers to debs / HOWTOs / etc. traded for beverage of choice :-) [ PS: I have nothing against KDE's Krayon - haven't tried it yet - will later, but it seems to be at a much earlier development stage ] Nick Boyce Bristol, UK -- Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid. --- Frank Zappa -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Scrolling mouse
On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 11:05:30AM -0700, Reza wrote: Hi there I use Logitech scrolling mouse which is connected in PS/2 , and I don't what to change to make the scrolling works.. can anyone help me? thanks regards, Install the package - imwheel kent -- From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted First line of The Panther - R. M. Rilke
Re: The following packages have been kept back
On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 01:30:41PM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 06:53:16PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: aalib1: Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.2-2) but 2.1.3-18 is to be installed Depends: xlibs (= 4.0.1-11) but it is not installable E: Sorry, broken packages fot2:~# exit So I figure that I need to somehow upgrade my libc6 to 2.2.2-2. But apt-get says that '2.1.3-18 is to be installed' !? How do I get it to upgrade my libc6? For some reason, apt doesn't want to upgrade libc6 automatically. Try an `apt-get install libc6`; it'll probably just go right through, No, it doesn't. but you may get some warnings that point at why apt wanted to leave it alone. You should upgrade it, in any case. The current stable version is 2.2.2-4, so I'm not even sure that 2.1.3-18 is still available.
Re: x goes blank
On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 12:17:09PM -0300, Rafael Sasaki wrote: I could install my mouse using gpm, but when i tried to start the x system (startx) i got some errors and the screen went blank. Now, every time i try to boot my Linux the screen goes blank. I can not use it. How can i fix it? People seem to have varying success with running gpm and X at the same time with this last release. There are several people who have got it to work. A quick search of the list archives should net you the possibilities. For a quick fix - switch to console ctl+alt+F2 login and su to root and run # /etc/init.d/gpm stop You should be able to start X fine from there. kent -- From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted First line of The Panther - R. M. Rilke
Re: /etc/rc* and locate
On Sat, 26 May 2001, Wayne Topa wrote: Subject: Re: /etc/rc* and locate Date: Fri, May 25, 2001 at 08:20:47PM +0100 In reply to:john gennard Quoting john gennard([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Fri, 25 May 2001, ray p wrote: Thanks for the replies. I don't understand Noah's point - as I said, I ran 'updatedb' after removing qmail and the only files shown by the 'locate qmail' command were those which were not under /etc/rc*. I have no program which runs update nightly. I think you do. see /etc/cron.daily/find Sorry, I didn't know that. Makes the anomaly even more difficult to understand though - even today 'locate' shows the files present whilst they are not. Today, using Kevin's 'locate -e' does not show the files - as he said would be the case. I've just run 'updatedb' once more and again I'm told the files are still there. Seems illogical and puzzling to me.
Local DNS?
hi, what I would I need to run a DNS on a local network? I don't need something full blown like an ISP would have, rather, I just need something that will tie names to local IPs like 10.x.x.x. If anyone knows, please respond, thanks Sunny Dubey
Re: apt-utils
On Sun, 27 May 2001, Joey Hess wrote: Jason, if it's doing that, I think that's a dumb heuistic. As you can see, there are valid reasons for ignoring the input and not failing. It is doing that and it has always done that.. It only fails sometimes because the pipe fills up. Probably will take that out.. Jason
Woody release date
Ok folks, I already know Debian is only ready with it's ready, but, beign involved with the community, can anyone risk a probable time range for woody to become stable? Just wanted to know to see if I download 2.2r3 CDs or wait for official woody iso images. Thanks in advance -- Jsb
Re: Getting the content of an RPM package
On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 08:30:45PM +0200, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote: Hi folks, is ist possible to access the content of an RPM package, without actually installing it? I tried rpm --nodeps --prefix /tmp/foo package.rpm but it says that the package is not relocatable. try rpm2cpio, it converts it to a cpio archive, which could be extracted with cpio mc can browse in rpms too... alien can extract them too i think, look at the -g option of alien -- ,---. Name: Alson van der Meulen Personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] School: [EMAIL PROTECTED] `---' Sorry, we deleted that package last week... -
Re: Setting the time with Samba
Hi... When you run the net time command does your win9x box even have its clock changed? Are you aware that without the /set /y options...nothing will happen? Mike - Original Message - From: Andrew Pollock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mike Egglestone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 12:17 AM Subject: Re: Setting the time with Samba Sorry if my problem was not clear... The Windoze box is reporting a totally different time to what's on the Linux box when I use the net time command. On Sat, 26 May 2001, Mike Egglestone wrote: Hi... The Samba list guys should know more about this stuff... but you may want to try this in your netlogon batch file.. net use \\samba /set /y Hope this helps... Mike - Original Message - From: Andrew Pollock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 12:58 AM Subject: Setting the time with Samba Hi, I was being lazy, and was going to sync the time on my Windoze box against my Linux box, using the net time command from a DOS box. Here's what happened: C:\WINDOWSnet time \\caesar Current time at \\CAESAR is 5-26-2001 2:53A.M. The command was completed successfully. But on my Linux box: caesar:/home/apollock# date Sat May 26 17:56:20 EST 2001 I'm pretty sure I do have my hardware clock set to UTC (how can you tell?), but even then: caesar:/home/apollock# date --utc Sat May 26 07:57:06 UTC 2001 So I'm at a bit of a loss to work out what's going on with respect to the time differences. The timezone on the Linux box is same as the Windoze box. Any suggestions? Andrew -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Local DNS?
On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 03:07:32PM -0400, Sunny Dubey wrote: hi, what I would I need to run a DNS on a local network? I don't need something full blown like an ISP would have, rather, I just need something that will tie names to local IPs like 10.x.x.x. bind, it's quite easy to setup for small networks, have a look at the DNS howto for more info -- ,---. Name: Alson van der Meulen Personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] School: [EMAIL PROTECTED] `---' NO! Not that button! -
Re: Getting the content of an RPM package
Viktor Rosenfeld wrote: Hi folks, is ist possible to access the content of an RPM package, without actually installing it? I tried rpm --nodeps --prefix /tmp/foo package.rpm but it says that the package is not relocatable. Since i am not familiar with rpm i would use alien to make the .deb then use dpkg -x *.deb dir to extract the files .
Re: Local DNS?
On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 03:07:32PM -0400, Sunny Dubey wrote: hi, what I would I need to run a DNS on a local network? I don't need something full blown like an ISP would have, rather, I just need something that will tie names to local IPs like 10.x.x.x. If anyone knows, please respond, thanks Install bind Here is a tree part series from linux care that is pretty clear - http://www.linux.com/newsitem.phtml?sid=82aid=7944 http://www.linux.com/newsitem.phtml?sid=82aid=8051 http://www.linux.com/newsitem.phtml?sid=82aid=8191 There is also the DNS HOWTO - http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/DNS-HOWTO.html kent -- From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted First line of The Panther - R. M. Rilke
Re: apt-utils
Jason Gunthorpe wrote: It is doing that and it has always done that.. It only fails sometimes because the pipe fills up. Probably will take that out.. Ok, I will make dpkg-preconfigure do it's best to always read all input in --apt mode, but I stress that its best is not good enough, I can think of 6 possible failure modes off the top of my head. -- see shy jo
Re: dpkg stopping with an error
J.F.Gratton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm trying to compile Firestarter 0.7.1 on a Debian (unstable) system. After I got most of the dependencies correctly, I still needed one package to be installed, which is libgnomeprint11 Everytime I try to install this package, dpkg returns this: Setting up libgnomeprint11 (0.25-ximian.6) ... dpkg: error processing libgnomeprint11 (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 I don't know much on how dpkg works so right now I'm stumped (especially since this package is needed by many others !). What can I do to correct the situation ? Look in /var/lib/dpkg/info/libgnomeprint11.postinst for what might be failing, correct it there, and 'dpkg --configure libgnomeprint11'. In this case, my guess is that you're running into Ximian bugs #2808 [1] and #2951 [2]; it's possible that the easiest solution for now would be just to comment out the call(s) to gnome-font-install, although obviously printing may not actually work properly if you do that. [1] http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2808 [2] http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2951 Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: x goes blank
I`m using the original kernel from the Debian site (udma66). - Original Message - From: Jordi S. Bunster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rafael Sasaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 3:23 PM Subject: Re: x goes blank On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 12:17:09PM -0300, Rafael Sasaki wrote: I could install my mouse using gpm, but when i tried to start the x system (startx) i got some errors and the screen went blank. Now, every time i try to boot my Linux the screen goes blank. I can not use it. How can i fix it? I recall to have seen in the Linux kernel help documents, that setting the screen blanking option by APM within the kernel and using gpm could cause errors like this one on certain BIOSes. Of course, the problem may be something else. But, just to be sure ... did you recompile your kernel, or are you running the kernel supplied with Debian?
Re: Woody release date
On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 04:05:18PM -0300, Jordi S. Bunster wrote: Ok folks, I already know Debian is only ready with it's ready, but, beign involved with the community, can anyone risk a probable time range for woody to become stable? Just wanted to know to see if I download 2.2r3 CDs or wait for official woody iso images. Download the 2.2r3 CDs you can upgrade with apt-get later. Time to stable release? Your guess is as good as mine. kent -- From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted First line of The Panther - R. M. Rilke
Re: Woody release date
sometime this century, maybe. ;) -- Forrest English http://truffula.net When we have nothing left to give There will be no reason for us to live But when we have nothing left to lose You will have nothing left to use -Fugazi On Sun, 27 May 2001, Jordi S. Bunster wrote: Ok folks, I already know Debian is only ready with it's ready, but, beign involved with the community, can anyone risk a probable time range for woody to become stable? Just wanted to know to see if I download 2.2r3 CDs or wait for official woody iso images. Thanks in advance -- Jsb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Local DNS?
On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 03:07:32PM -0400, Sunny Dubey wrote: hi, what I would I need to run a DNS on a local network? I don't need something full blown like an ISP would have, rather, I just need something that will tie names to local IPs like 10.x.x.x. In the past I've used pdns, which has the ability to read /etc/hosts and server that information. However for some reason it suddenly became very unstable, so I've switched to jbdns. This one is less integrated, but uses very little memory and served fine sofar. -- Casper Gielen [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- People just generally like to disagree. Bill Joy
Re: apt-utils
Dave Sherohman wrote: The two cases that spring to mind of apt-utils consistently reasking questions are ssh and apt-utils itself. (Although apt-utils is at least decent enough to remember, when making the second pass through, that I'd told it to use the text interface the first time around.) I don't know what you're talking about: apt-utils does not use debconf. apt-get install debconf-utils; echo get debconf/showold | debconf-communicate If that outputs true, then you have configured debconf to redisplay already seen questions. If not, I would dearly like the see a log of a package, any package, displaying the same question both in preconfiguration and at install time, with DEBCONF_DEBUG='.*' set and exported in the environment. -- see shy jo
2 ipchains questions
Apologies if I've already asked this - I can't remember anymore! I now have a DSL connection, and as such would like to use ipchains to do the following: 1.) Deny all incoming packets coming in on eth1 (the card connected to the DSL gateway) except those destined for port 22 (ssh) or ICMP packets, or of course packets responding to outgoing packets; and 2.) Make masqueraded connections from other machines on my private network never time out. I've been working on it, but keep running into brick walls. Thank for any advice- Andy -- Andrew J Perrin - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin Asst Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill 269 Hamilton Hall, CB#3210, Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3210 USA
Re: Woody release date
Jordi S. Bunster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok folks, I already know Debian is only ready with it's ready, but, beign involved with the community, can anyone risk a probable time range for woody to become stable? Just wanted to know to see if I download 2.2r3 CDs or wait for official woody iso images. The closest we've got so far is a post from the release manager to debian-devel-announce: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce-0105/msg3.html This isn't necessarily gospel, so, in case I'm quoted out of context, I'm going to make you go and read the post rather than picking the suggested release date out of it and quoting it here. :) If I were you, though, I'd wait a week or two for 2.2r4 to be released (not sure about the exact dates for that, but it's in preparation and has various security updates) and download the CD images for that. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free mail a/c that allows download of mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any free mail accounts (like hotmail etc.) that allow you to download your mail so that you can read it with mutt say? Instead of having to view it through the web browser when connected to the internet. I want something that you can use fetchmail or something similar to download the mail with. Is there any that allow this? yahoo.com will work like you want. it also can retrieve mail from other accts and forward mail.
How can I change the menu in the Gnome panel?
I installed Ximian and that had a short menu in the panel. Now I upgraded to the Debian Gnome pacakges and that has a terribly long menu. I mean first it is the Foot with Programs then Favourite Settings and Desktop. That takes almost half my panel width. I want to remove Favourites and combind Setting and Desktop to one menu. The problem is that one cannot go this with gmenu so I wonder which file can on edit? Thanks in advance. -- Preben Randhol --- http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ -- «For me, Ada95 puts back the joy in programming.»
Re: Long pause on bootup with 2.4.4 and 2.4.5 kernels
On Sat, 26 May 2001 22:07:20 +0100 Phillip Deackes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while ago I compiled the 2.4.4 kernel but went back to 2.4.3 when I found I was getting a long pause during boot-up,just after this: 'Configuring network interfaces: eth0: Setting 100mbs full-duplex based on auto negotiated partner ability 41e1'. Today I compiled 2.4.5 and get the same thing. I am answering my own post because I have found the cause of the problem (and a workaround) which might well help others. Apparently there is a bug with the newer kernel drivers for my network card - based on the Realtek 8139 chipset (uses the kernel driver 8139too). I replaced the driver with the version which came with kernel version 2.4.3 and now it works as it should. I note that a number of people have raised bug reports etc. about this issue. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: Getting the content of an RPM package
On Sun, 27 May 2001 20:30:45 +0200 Viktor Rosenfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, is ist possible to access the content of an RPM package, without actually installing it? Probably the easiest way is to open it with either MC (Midnight Commander) or GMC (Gnome Midnight Commander). You get to see the contents of the rpm as if it were a normal file. Works with Debian pacakges too. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: Free mail a/c that allows download of mail
On Sunday 27 May 2001 21:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any free mail accounts (like hotmail etc.) that allow you to download your mail so that you can read it with mutt say? Instead of having to view it through the web browser when connected to the internet. I want something that you can use fetchmail or something similar to download the mail with. Is there any that allow this? If you're talking about popmail, you can try yahoo. Better: check out www.emailaddresses.com P.S. Do you mean hotmail doesn't offer pop access?
Re: swapon: device or resource busy
Ooops! It was working after all (the reason it was busy was because I'd successfully mounted the swap partition). I was confused because there was also an error about missing swap signature or something like that (but it went away after I created the new swap partition and reformatted). Thanks, Jen - Original Message - From: jennyw To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 10:11 AM Subject: swapon: device or resource busy I recently changed my partition table, and ended up recreating a swap partition. Ever since then, I keep getting the error "swapon: device or resource busy". This is after running mkswap -c /dev/hda3 (where the current swap partition is) and updating fstab: /dev/hda3 none swap sw 0 0 I even created a new swap partition on /dev/hda7, added it to fstab, and also ran mkswap -c on it. Same thing. Any suggestions as to what could be causing this error? Thanks! Jen
printing trouble, perhaps kernel probs
It does not work... Kernel 2.4.5, printing stuff as modules, HP Deskjet 710 here, tried cups, lprng, lpd. -- desire ~ # modprobe lp 0x378: FIFO is 16 bytes 0x378: writeIntrThreshold is 7 0x378: readIntrThreshold is 7 parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, using FIFO [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,ECP] parport0: Printer, HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 710C lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). -- So this seems to be as it should be, all perfect. Now, looking at the modules loaded, lp is unused. No devfs here. IEE1284 or something compiled in. -- desire ~ # lsmod Module Size Used by parport_pc 23472 1 (autoclean) lp 5424 0 (unused) parport24928 1 [parport_pc lp] -- Restarting lpd or whatever does not help at all, it stays unused, the printer does not do anything. This seems to be wrong in my eyes. The kernel logs these messages: -- May 27 19:32:07 desire kernel: 0x378: FIFO is 16 bytes May 27 19:32:07 desire kernel: 0x378: writeIntrThreshold is 7 May 27 19:32:07 desire kernel: 0x378: readIntrThreshold is 7 May 27 19:32:07 desire kernel: 0x378: PWord is 8 bits May 27 19:32:07 desire kernel: 0x378: Interrupts are ISA-Pulses May 27 19:32:07 desire kernel: 0x378: ECP port cfgA=0x10 cfgB=0x4c May 27 19:32:07 desire kernel: 0x378: ECP settings irq=7 dma=none or set by other means May 27 19:32:07 desire kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, using FIFO [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,ECP] May 27 19:32:07 desire kernel: parport0: cpp_daisy: aa5500ff(98) May 27 19:32:07 desire kernel: parport0: assign_addrs: aa5500ff(98) May 27 19:32:07 desire kernel: parport0: faking semi-colon May 27 19:32:07 desire kernel: parport0: Printer, HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 710C May 27 19:32:07 desire kernel: lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). -- I have an ASUS P5A mainboard and set the DMA to disabled and the port to ECP+SPP or whatever this is called. Any ideas, any clues, any hints? If I get it right, I should be able to do cat /etc/passwd dev/lp0 without any problems...?! Also, setting the printer port to normal with no DMA and what not did not help at all. Besides, two cables cannot both be broken if the status readback is working. TIA! Regards, Alexander -- Alexander Koch - - WWJD - aka Efraim - PGP 0xE7694969 - KOCH1-RIPE
backspace key in X screwed by trying progeny
Then I spend 3 days downloading woody hoping that would fix it, but it still doesn't work. Can someone please tell me how to fix it? Thanks, Chuck
need to kill a package...
Hello, There's this package smpeg-xmms that is apparently no longer available, but it's sitting in my dpkg database and screwing things up with its dependencies. I tried deleting the entry from /var/lib/dpkg/status, but it didn't do me any good. I'm perplexed... --ET. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: How can I change the menu in the Gnome panel?
Preben Randhol [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PR I installed Ximian and that had a short menu in the panel. Now I PR upgraded to the Debian Gnome pacakges and that has a terribly long menu. PR I mean first it is the Foot with Programs then Favourite Settings and PR Desktop. That takes almost half my panel width. I want to remove PR Favourites and combind Setting and Desktop to one menu. The problem is PR that one cannot go this with gmenu so I wonder which file can on edit? Right-click on the foot, then select Properties. Confusingly, there's a similiar Global menu pane in the Panel control center applet (Menu tab); this appears to control the menu you get when you right-click on an otherwise unoccupioed section of the panel. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell
Re: need to kill a package...
Eugene Tyurin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's this package smpeg-xmms that is apparently no longer available, but it's sitting in my dpkg database and screwing things up with its dependencies. I tried deleting the entry from /var/lib/dpkg/status, but it didn't do me any good. I'm perplexed... Don't touch /var/lib/dpkg/status manually unless you know what you're doing. It's the only record of the state of a lot of your system. Try 'dpkg --purge smpeg-xmms' instead if you don't want it. Note, though, that that package *is* still in both testing and unstable. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: line numbers in code
Romain Lerallut wrote:- Romain Lerallut wrote:- You can run *any* text through cpp (not just C program sources, I use it for my Fortran codes:) That's not true, certainly in GCC 3.0. Neil. h: echo '__LINE__' | cpp-3.0 -P 1 looks like you can ( with my Fortran codes too!) :-) I don't understand what your example proves. We made an effort to help Fortran and assembler. Although in general you cannot preprocess even Fortran and assembler. With Python, for example, you'd lose all your tabs. Basically, if you don't care about whitespace preservation, and your file lexes like C (in that, e.g. all charconsts and strings are closed), you can probably get away with it. You're advised not to rely too heavily on it though - 3.0 is more strict than 2.95 and will not accept some stuff that 2.95 did. Neil.
Re: Busybox: used for hacking or part of potato
hanasaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just found the following in /var/log/install.log Can someone tell me where / why it would be on a potato system? Thanks. - http://busybox.lineo.com/ Feb 14 22:14:49 (none) syslogd started: BusyBox v0.43 (2000.11.30-14:58+) Feb 14 22:14:52 (none) user.info dbootstrap[128]: Feb 14 22:15:27 (none) user.info dbootstrap[128]: mounting /dev/hda6 at /target That looks like the record of your installation to me. busybox and dbootstrap are about as far from crackers' tools as you can get, I think, but I wouldn't expect either of them normally to be on your system after the installation's complete. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: kde.tdyc.com unreachable?
Well, why is kde.tdyc.com down anyway? Is the only need, is for somewhere to host? I have my own company and could set up a server for that purpose. So what is the complete need? wayne -Original Message- From: Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 3:22 PM To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: kde.tdyc.com unreachable? On Sun, 27 May 2001 18:31:56 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] 1. Where, if anywhere, will future updates to KDE for potato be uploaded (until potato+1 is released)? To me it seemed that the packages where in a state of continuous flux right up until the death of kde.tdyc.com, so there are bound to be updates comming from somewhere, even as NMUs. I second this question. In fact, never mind updates - where should we direct *new* users who want to download KDE 2.1.1 for Potato for the first time ? The mirrors are just .. mirrors, right ? They come go ... there needs to be somewhere official, doesn't there ? Sourceforge is not the right place, kde.tdyc.com is gone, kde.debian.org (mentioned in some places) doesn't exist, ftp.kde.org redirects us to Sourceforge ... Cheers, Nick Boyce Bristol, UK -- Bother, said Pooh as he struggled with sendmail.cf. It never does quite what I want. I wish Christopher Robin were here.. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading to Testing (was: Re: Ive been getting scanned...)
Marc Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are the proper lines to put in /etc/apt/sources.list to upgrade from stable to testing? I seem to recal someone on the list saying to replace the lines for stable with: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free but this will also get packages from unstable, which I would prefer not to do at this time. If I do make these changes and do an 'apt-get update/upgrade' then apt wants to upgrade 188 packages on my box, add 40 some packages and delete 11 packages. If I only have the line for testing in my sources.list then 'upgrade' only wants to change 7 packages and 'dist-upgrade' also updates only 7 packages and wants to delete 3 others. There is much that simply does not exist in testing that is in stable and unstable. I thought that testing was a complete set of packages, but this does not seem to be the case. Can anyone explain exactly the way packages flow through the system, including when a new release becomes stable? Somebody's replied already to say that testing was broken yesterday; normally you'd see a lot more change than that. Discounting that ... 'testing' is a fairly new invention to try to help speed up release cycles. The idea, roughly, is that it's normally not too far behind unstable but doesn't suffer from some of the worse problems in unstable. Developers upload new versions of packages to unstable, and, after a period of time there, individual versions of packages migrate into testing according to various rules: they can't have any high-severity bugs filed against them, and putting them into testing can't make more packages uninstallable than was already the case. testing started off as a copy of stable, but at various times I think things have got out of kilter in such a way as to leave certain packages in stable and unstable but not testing (but I may be misremembering there). That should mostly get fixed before release. Sooner or later, after testing has been largely frozen for a while so that we can, er, test it, the release manager decides that today is a good day to release. At that point, testing becomes stable, a new testing branch is created, and we go round again. Since woody will be our first release with testing, I'm not sure if anybody knows yet quite how it'll go. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Packages to run kernel 2.4.x on potato (release 14)
I have prepared the packages needed to run kernels up to 2.4.4 on a Debian 2.2r3 (potato) system. Please read [1] for more information. The most important change is that there's now a second architecture (sparc). Thanks to Marco for compiling the packages! Changes since the last release: + there are now sparc packages compiled by Marco Gaiarin [EMAIL PROTECTED] + added: lm-sensors Binary packages: o libsensors1 o libsensors-dev o lm-sensors o lm-sensors-source o sensord cu Adrian [1] http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html -- Nicht weil die Dinge schwierig sind wagen wir sie nicht, sondern weil wir sie nicht wagen sind sie schwierig.
Re: Free mail a/c that allows download of mail
www.crosswinds.net does, and www.softhome.com (may be .net or .org) used to, and may still. Mike On Mon, 28 May 2001, csj wrote: On Sunday 27 May 2001 21:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any free mail accounts (like hotmail etc.) that allow you to download your mail so that you can read it with mutt say? Instead of having to view it through the web browser when connected to the internet. I want something that you can use fetchmail or something similar to download the mail with. Is there any that allow this? If you're talking about popmail, you can try yahoo. Better: check out www.emailaddresses.com P.S. Do you mean hotmail doesn't offer pop access? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Busybox: used for hacking or part of potato
Subject: Busybox: used for hacking or part of potato Date: Sun, May 27, 2001 at 12:00:58PM -0500 In reply to:hanasaki Quoting hanasaki([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I just found the following in /var/log/install.log Can someone tell me where / why it would be on a potato system? Thanks. - http://busybox.lineo.com/ Feb 14 22:14:49 (none) syslogd started: BusyBox v0.43 (2000.11.30-14:58+) --snip-- locate busybox /var/src/boot-floppies/utilities/busybox I think that says it all. -- To the systems programmer, users and applications serve only to provide a test load. ___
Re: Packaging WM themes - question
Casper Gielen wrote: On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 06:45:10PM +0200, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote: Come on! I don't mean to be ignorant, but a 286 is 18 years old. The 386 is only 3 years younger. No one is depending on hardware this old -- not even in schools. At least not in Europe or North America. You'd be shocked. I know of at least 2 schools in my town (120.000 inhabitants) that are _still_ using 386'es. They could do without them, but as long as they are low on funds, they are happy with anything they get. And I'm living in the Netherlands, which is rather wealthy. In countries with less money those old machines are even more wanted. Argh! We're talking in circles! I left high school two years ago, and they were still using 386'es. I still know a couple of people there (eg the guy who runs the network) and he tells me, that although they got newer machines they still use those 386'es. But, my point is, that a bigger machine is available for the task of *initially installing Debian*. After this obstacle is done away with, nothing hinders them using those old machines. I'm not argueing that a 386 is useless per se, but I'm argueing that it doesn't have enough horse power for some task (albeit a lot of tasks nowadays). I'm still using one myself! BTW, I went to school in former East-Berlin, Germany which -- although being situated in one of the richiest countries in the world -- is extremely tight on its budget. At the time, I went to school, the city would not employ any new teacher, because it couldn't afford to do so. This went on for more than two years until the Senate realized the disastrous implications. If your German is good enough, you might want to check a Berlin newspaper to find out about the financial situation here. You'll be surprised. Anyway, my point is that it's *very* okay, to put old machines to some use. I'm not arguing that we should forget all machines less powerfull than a Gigahertz Athlon. No way! However, sacrifing functionality or user choice (I believe, the thread started about the choices a user has when installing themes) is not the way to go. I think this is not changing the core functionality of apt at all. Instead I want to make use of an apt feature. One that has been implemented on purpose: the ability to use multiple sources of software. This is hardly different from a system with or without packages from the non-free section. If you don't want non-free software you remove it from sources.list and you're computer won't even know non-free software exists. Now do the same for eg. KDE. If a user doesn't want KDE, he removes the appropriate line from sources.list and apt/dselect won't know about KDE and will not be slowed down because of it. I repeat, this does _not_ changing apt in any way, and for most users their will be no noticable difference. Hurray, we're starting to agree on some terms. I think this is the best solution (no ugly hack, easy to implement, easy to maintain, no extra burdon for the end-user). I started to argue, when people were suggesting to put all those thirty-something themes into one big package, which I find plain stupid. Cheers, Viktor -- Viktor Rosenfeld WWW: http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~rosenfel/
Re: apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade hassels
Thanks for your reaction On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 02:44:10PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: Er, perl-5.004? That's ancient, go ahead and remove it as long as some other perl is still there (which I imagine it is). Most of the others have been superseded; dunno about snmp and snmpd. Hmm, but why does it want to remove opera for example. I installed opera by downloading the debian package from their website. Is this why? Also why doesn't apt-get upgrade work and apt-get dist-upgrade does? Why? -- Jeroen Valcke jeroen@valcke.com ICQ# 30116911 Home page: http://www.valcke.com/jeroen Phone +32(0)56 32 91 37 Mobile +32(0)486 88 21 26
Re: I've been getting scanned...
on Sun, May 27, 2001 at 10:59:47AM -0400, Carl Fink ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 12:20:14AM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote: If you don't want to be running year-old software (with the latest security fixes backported), switch over to testing instead. Bad news: testing *is* year-old software. By the time it's stable it'll be two eyars old. Wrong. Testing is unstable + 10 days - bugs. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org Disclaimer: http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ pgpPbY7PDlR9z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Netscape memory leak in debian?
on Sun, May 27, 2001 at 07:05:41PM +1000, Steve Kieu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, every one. what could cause it? how to fix it? any ideas pls ? Get a real browser: Galeon, Konqueror, Mozilla. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org Disclaimer: http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ pgpMrrOjABs7I.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Scrolling mouse
apt-get install imwheel did it for me, simply run imwheel -k once you're in x and scrolling should work... of course you have to provide the right lines in your XF86Config, depending on which version of X you're using that will be in a different section, but basically add the following line to wherever you set-up your mouse: ZAxisMapping 4 5 (or alternatively: 5 4 depending on how you'd like it to handle the scrolling) hope that helps! -vester On Sun, 27 May 2001, Reza wrote: Hi there I use Logitech scrolling mouse which is connected in PS/2 , and I don't what to change to make the scrolling works.. can anyone help me? thanks regards, Reza __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
O.T. [Linux Jobs in Europe]
I know many of you who post here are from Europe. I am from the U.S. Because of some personal things happening I may be moving to Denmark or England. So, my question is, What kind of oppertunities are there for Linux people in europe. I am mostly interested in Denmark, but any places in europe will be open to me. wayne
Re: Progeny install problems
Robert Voigt wrote: I thought you get access to a progeny support mailing list or something if you buy a progeny box. Is this wrong? Right and wrong: Right, there is a progeny mailing list. Wrong, it's actually free. http://www.progeny.com/prodserv/support/
Re: Scrolling mouse
On Sun, 27 May 2001, vester wrote: apt-get install imwheel In case you use X4 , you don't need imwheel. On Sun, 27 May 2001, Reza wrote: Hi there I use Logitech scrolling mouse which is connected in PS/2 , and I don't what to change to make the scrolling works.. can anyone help me? thanks regards, Reza Be careful , some Logitech mice's wheel don't work *at all* with Linux, see there: http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ HTH, Romain
opengl setup with riva128 chipset
Hello together, i've searched about 4 hours now to find a good manual or howto to set up opengl support under debian linux for the nvidia riva128 chipset. The drivers provided from nvidia don't seem to work with the riva128 chipset. Do you know a good howto or manual about setting up opengl support with this chipset? Another little question: how can i get back to the config menu for the xserver-xfree86 package? The menu asking which video card, ... thanx Daniel Kleine-Albers
Re: SOUND
You should be able to play wav files with a utility like sox. It comes with handy shell scripts that implement a play and a rec command. Mid files can be played with playmidi. Tobias On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 05:18:20AM -0300, Antonio Lobato wrote: I have a SoundBlaster 16 sound card (no Plug and Play). I`m able to play CD`s on my computer after the command: modprobe sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5. But I don`t know how to play/record midis and wav`s. Must I to configure more something ? If so, How ?
Re: apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade hassels
jeroen@valcke.com wrote: On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 02:44:10PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: Er, perl-5.004? That's ancient, go ahead and remove it as long as some other perl is still there (which I imagine it is). Most of the others have been superseded; dunno about snmp and snmpd. Hmm, but why does it want to remove opera for example. I installed opera by downloading the debian package from their website. Is this why? I don't know about opera; it's not part of Debian, so maybe they don't keep its dependencies up to date. Also why doesn't apt-get upgrade work and apt-get dist-upgrade does? Why? Because dist-upgrade is willing to remove packages in order to perform the upgrade. Without that, for instance, it won't have been possible to upgrade to the newer perl packages (since they conflict with perl-5.004), and that alone will have blocked a large number of packages. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free mail a/c that allows download of mail
Is there any free mail accounts (like hotmail etc.) that allow you to download your mail so that you can read it with mutt say? Instead of having to view it through the web browser when connected to the internet. yahoo (if you can stand it) you can get mail from their POP server with `fetchmail' . Just put a stanza like this in .fetchmailrc: poll pop.mail.yahoo.com proto POP3 user YAHOO-USERNAME with password PASSWORD is LOCAL-USERNAME here fetchall keep smtphost MYHOSTNAME Jim
Re: Packaging WM themes - question
On Sun, 27 May 2001, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote: ... It might not be fast, but this is a 386 we're talking about. It simply isn't fast by todays standards [1]. But for some purposes it's good enough. today's could be, your's, the people you know, the region you live in, the economy you are part of... today's standard really only applies to the possible-world you live in. It's a modal logic thing. Now, how is that lessened by the fact, that Debian takes ages to install on such a machine? Not at all. It's obviously a load-intensive job, so you get a bigger machine. A bigger machine is not always an option, sometimes even for those living next door to a computer store. And making that process less dependent on CPU power is not an option when this means that core functionality of apt is sacrificed (ie the ability to figure out dependencies). Simply because I don't think that is true, or at least not something that is unsolvable with some new software. the vast majority of Debian users has no problem using it (at least speed-wise). No one forces you to use apt. If it's to slow for you, than don't use it, there are alternatives (eg Slackware, installing from sratch). Sure. The thing that gets me is that it is possible for software to accommodate anything (after all, it is software), yet there is steady pressure to drop support for older machines because it is bloat, etc. -- even though the systems it is bloat for would probably not even notice the extra resource usage, and compile time options could be used to tailor the build. ... [1] IIRC, the 386 I installed recently had roughly more than 1 BogoMIPS. The 486 I tried a few days later had 7.88 BogoMIPS. This was the stock A 1Mhz 386 and an 8MHz 486? potato kernel 2.2.17pre-something I believe. The machine I'm sitting in front of right now, is a Celeron 333 -- not exactly the fastest machine in the world, but the fastest I have in my home. It has 680 BogoMIPS. I know that BogoMIPS are ... well, bogus, but I think it proves my point. What do you expect from that kind of performance? How often do you hear people with oldslow machines gripping because a menu takes 0.5s to come up... the issue is not speed, it is one of not shutting people out just because they don't live up to today's standards in some possible world. - Bruce
Re: Scrolling mouse
* Romain Lerallut ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010527 17:58]: On Sun, 27 May 2001, Reza wrote: Hi there I use Logitech scrolling mouse which is connected in PS/2 , and I don't what to change to make the scrolling works.. can anyone help me? thanks regards, Reza Maybe I'm reading it differently than everyone else, or maybe it's just a non-native language thing, but does this person *NOT* want his mouse wheel to scroll ?? Actually, I think he simply left out one word... It should read: I use Logitech scrolling mouse which is connected in PS/2, and I don't [know] what to change to make the scrolling works.. Regards Hall
Re: Kde Sid directory problem
On Sun, 27 May 2001, Matthew Gibbins wrote:
And yo was Bruce Sass heard to yodel:
On Sat, 26 May 2001, Matthew Gibbins wrote:
I'm running konqueror in Sid and am encountering problems loading1 some
modules
for konqueror configuration.
Particularly those under the directories:
/usr/share/applnk/Settings/WebBrowsing
/usr/share/applnk/Settings/FileBrowsing
No problems here. I can get at them via:
K - Control Center
K - Preferences - Web Browsing | File Browsing
and by pointing Konqueror at
/usr/share/applnk/Settings/{File,Web}Browsing
Just to clarify only ebrowsing.desktop, crypto.desktop and nsplugin.desktop
are loaded.
The rest fail with 'The diagnostics is:' where there is unfortunately no
diagnostic information.
Hmmm, I'd start looking closely at the system: version of all KDE
related packages, dpkg -C, cruft, deborphan, etc. It appears there
is something strange about _your_ setup (mismatched versions, old libs
shadowing newer versions, ...), and the list may not be of much help.
Good Luck.
- Bruce
Re: problem running xf86cfg
why do I get this? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ xfree86 --configure bash: xfree86: command not found why is that? Is there a package that doesn't automatically gets updated when I run apt-get install xfree86-common xserver-xfree86 . ? Philipp techlists wrote: XFree86 4.+ quit using xf86config, if you look at the install directions on xfree86.org beginning with xfree86 4.0 you should use the command xfree86 --configure wayne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Philipp Bliedung Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 12:24 PM To: Andrea Vettorello Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: problem running xf86cfg Andrea Vettorello wrote: Philipp Bliedung wrote: hi I just upgraded to XFree 4.0.3 but when I try tu run xf86cfg I get this error message: [...] Any ideas how I can fix this? BTW what does the VidModeExtension do? Don't know if this can helps, but you could try using xf86cfg in textmode running xf86cfg -textmode, try looking in the man page for further options... Andrea Yes, xf86cfg -textmode works. Thanks! But I still can't figure out why I get this error. Philipp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I've been getting scanned...
On Sun, 27 May 2001 14:07:46 PDT, Karsten wrote: Wrong. Testing is unstable + 10 days - bugs. Yes, but only for packages that begin with a through f ;) (at least for the moment) -- Paul T. Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] -currently seeking employment-
Re: Free mail a/c that allows download of mail
On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 06:59:45PM +0200, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote: | Paul Wright wrote: | | I use gmx.net http://gmx.net/ . They also allow you to use them as | your Smart Mailer using cram-md5 login. I use masqmail to fetch my mail | from my gmx.net and another account and send all mail out through gmx. | | Works great for me, but they do require that you fill out a questionaire. | No spam so far (three weeks) | | What about that crappy newspaper they sent out every week or so? Is | there a way to disable it or don't you count that as spam? That newspaper probably has some pretty consistent properties, like the From or Subject field, right? Just dump it to /dev/null using procmail. -D
Re: 2 ipchains questions
Do something like: # for initialisation - deny everything that will not be allowed later... ipchains -P input DENY ipchains -P forward DENY ipchains -P output DENY ipchains -F # allow local things ipchains -A input -j ACCEPT -i lo ipchains -A output -j ACCEPT -i lo # allow SSH connections from eth1 (and reply packets) ipchains -A input -j ACCEPT -p tcp -i eth1 -s 0.0.0.0/0 1024: -d IP of eth1 22 ipchains -A output -j ACCEPT -p tcp -i eth1 -d 0.0.0.0/0 1024: -s IP of eth1 22 AFAIR you don't have to worry about response packets from masqueraded connections. They will bypass the input and output chains. For the timeout of masquerading see the -S option of ipchains. I think it is not the best idea to make connections never time out (quite sure it is not even possible) because you will eventually run out of port numbers. Just set it to a reasonable high value - like one hour - don't know what the max is. Tobias On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 03:23:58PM -0500, Andrew Perrin wrote: I now have a DSL connection, and as such would like to use ipchains to do the following: 1.) Deny all incoming packets coming in on eth1 (the card connected to the DSL gateway) except those destined for port 22 (ssh) or ICMP packets, or of course packets responding to outgoing packets; and 2.) Make masqueraded connections from other machines on my private network never time out.
Re: Upgrading to Testing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson) wrote: | testing started off as a copy of stable, but at various times I think | things have got out of kilter in such a way as to leave certain packages | in stable and unstable but not testing (but I may be misremembering | there) That seems to have been true for sawmill/sawfish for some time now. Anyone know why? The current version is 0.38 (in unstable). The version in stable is 0.20. Jim
Re: swapon: device or resource busy
1. Can you post the output of mount and the command you issued + their output (copy-paste from the terminal)? 2. You didn't mention swapon for /dev/hda7. Have you run it? ---BeginMessage--- I recently changed my partition table, and ended up recreating a swap partition. Ever since then, I keep getting the error "swapon: device or resource busy". This is after running mkswap -c /dev/hda3 (where the current swap partition is) and updating fstab: /dev/hda3 none swap sw 0 0 I even created a new swap partition on /dev/hda7, added it to fstab, and also ran mkswap -c on it. Same thing. Any suggestions as to what could be causing this error? Thanks! Jen ---End Message--- Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hillel used to say: If I am not for myself who will be for me? Yet, if I am for myself only, what am I? And if not now, when? (Ethics Of The Fathers 1:14)
Re: I've been getting scanned...
On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 02:07:46PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: Testing is unstable + 10 days - bugs. Oh. I misunderstood what it was for -- I always assumed it was almost frozen and once it was created, packages in it would not be updated except for necessary fixes. So it's basically slightly more stable than unstable. Thanks for clarifying that for me. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Book opinions?
Hi, Well, I'm getting ready to install Debian for the first time and would like to get the groups opinion on a book I'm going to purchase. The book's title is Debian GNU/Linux Bible and was published this year. I plan on using the CD to do my install. Thanks. Wayne -- I have not seen the book you have mentioned. Yet you might want to check the online docs found on www.debian.org and the debian packages from the CD that contain guides and similar stuff. These might get you started as well. -- Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hillel used to say: If I am not for myself who will be for me? Yet, if I am for myself only, what am I? And if not now, when? (Ethics Of The Fathers 1:14)
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, When I execute 'apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade', nothing seems to happen. apt-get reports back that the packages are up-to-date. I am pretty sure that they are not because before it was asking me to update some GNOME libraries and other packages (which I did not perform). Does anyone have an explanation for this behaviour? Perhaps there is a problem with your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/apt.conf? Can you post those here? Thanks, Eddy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7ERuN52xca/NTIl8RAq1vAKCUfHjcLB4qlRp3M7IooWPzNP0SuACgj4WW T/vcy3fOmaHGoIC6eo5MGa0= =rzcm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hillel used to say: If I am not for myself who will be for me? Yet, if I am for myself only, what am I? And if not now, when? (Ethics Of The Fathers 1:14)
Re: 2 ipchains questions
For better stateful packet inspection I would recommend moving your firewall from ipchains - iptables which has a better stateful engine... This will watch the related packets (ie- ftp ftp-data) as well as the connections already established... Jeremy T. Bouse Andrew Perrin was said to been seen saying: Apologies if I've already asked this - I can't remember anymore! I now have a DSL connection, and as such would like to use ipchains to do the following: 1.) Deny all incoming packets coming in on eth1 (the card connected to the DSL gateway) except those destined for port 22 (ssh) or ICMP packets, or of course packets responding to outgoing packets; and 2.) Make masqueraded connections from other machines on my private network never time out. I've been working on it, but keep running into brick walls. Thank for any advice- Andy -- Andrew J Perrin - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin Asst Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill 269 Hamilton Hall, CB#3210, Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3210 USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ,-, |Jeremy T. Bouse, CCNA - UnderGrid Network Services, LLC - www.UnderGrid.net | | Public PGP/GPG key available through http://wwwkeys.us.pgp.net| | If received unsigned (without requesting as such) DO NOT trust it! | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - NIC Whois: JB5713 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `-' pgp7zxdkcC8aS.pgp Description: PGP signature
switching to devfs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I have an 2.4 kernel installed but with the old fashioned /dev-node system. What is the easiest way to enable and ONLY USE the new DEVFS? cheers, Raffaele - -- Raffaele Sandrini [EMAIL PROTECTED] For encrypted Mail get my Public Key from search.keyserver.net ID is: 0xEC4950E9 Fingerprint: FFEA 3317 8624 4771 A05D 2AFA 46A2 A22B EC49 50E9 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7EYQCRqKiK+xJUOkRAhu1AJ0ag/w8+ARi7W7wM7x+JycoasdREACgw/vK Qq/u4RA1q2KB3coBAPF4CsQ= =f9TK -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: apt-utils
On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 03:29:43PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: I don't know what you're talking about: apt-utils does not use debconf. My mistake; s/apt-utils/debconf/g. Whenever I install a new system, debconf (or rather, the minimal version on the install disks) throws up a curses-based menu asking what mode I want it to run in, then what level of messages to display. I consistently answer text/medium. It then preconfigures other packages, unpacks everything, and starts the actual configuration phase. At this time, I am again asked what mode I want debconf to run in and what message level to display. If that outputs true, then you have configured debconf to redisplay already seen questions. # apt-get install debconf-utils; echo get debconf/showold | debconf-communicate Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Sorry, debconf-utils is already the newest version. 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. 0 false If not, I would dearly like the see a log of a package, any package, displaying the same question both in preconfiguration and at install time, with DEBCONF_DEBUG='.*' set and exported in the environment. I just tried purging and reinstalling ssh on two machines. The one tracking testing worked properly, only asking if I wanted it SUID and whether to run sshd once. The one tracking stable asked 3(!) times. That version of apt doesn't seem to like nonnumeric values for DEBCONF_DEBUG, so I tried setting it to 100 instead, which seems to have worked. Here's the log: --- Begin log --- genma /home/esper# apt-get remove --purge ssh Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: ssh* 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 1 not upgraded. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 515kB will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] (Reading database ... 50217 files and directories currently installed.) Removing ssh ... Stopping OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshd. dpkg - warning: while removing ssh, directory `/etc/ssh' not empty so not removed. Purging configuration files for ssh ... Argument .* isn't numeric in int at /usr/lib/perl5/Debian/DebConf/Log.pm line 40. genma /home/esper# export DEBCONF_DEBUG=100 genma /home/esper# apt-get install ssh Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: ssh 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/256kB of archives. After unpacking 515kB will be used. debconf: trying frontend Text Configuring packages ... debconf: starting /var/lib/debconf//config.14859 configure debconf: -- VERSION 2.0 debconf: -- 0 2.0 debconf: -- SET ssh/upgrade_to_openssh true debconf: -- 0 debconf: -- FSET ssh/upgrade_to_openssh isdefault false debconf: -- 0 false debconf: -- SET ssh/use_old_init_script true debconf: -- 0 debconf: -- FSET ssh/use_old_init_script isdefault false debconf: -- 0 false debconf: -- INPUT medium ssh/SUID_client debconf: Trying to make element of type Text::Boolean debconf: -- 0 debconf: -- INPUT medium ssh/run_sshd debconf: Trying to make element of type Text::Boolean debconf: -- 0 grep: /etc/ssh/sshd_config: No such file or directory debconf: -- INPUT low ssh/forward_warning debconf: Trying to make element of type Noninteractive::Note debconf: -- 30 debconf: -- GO debconf: preparing to ask questions Configuring Ssh --- You have the option of installing the ssh client with the SUID bit set. If you make ssh SUID, you will be able to use Rhosts/RhostsRSA authentication, but will not be able to use socks via the LD_PRELOAD trick. This is the traditional approach. If you do not make ssh SUID, you will be able to use socks, but Rhosts/RhostsRSA authentication will stop working, which may stop you logging in to remote systems. It will also mean that the source port will be above 1024, which may confound firewall rules you've set up. If in doubt, I suggest you install it without SUID. If it causes problems you can change your mind later by running: dpkg-reconfigure ssh Do you want /usr/bin/ssh to be installed SUID root? [n] This package contains both the ssh client, and the sshd server. Normally the sshd Secure Shell Server will be run to allow remote logins via ssh. If you are only interested in using the ssh client for outbound connections on this machine, and don't want to log into it at all using ssh, then you can disable sshd here. Do you want to run the sshd server ? [y] debconf: -- 0 Selecting previously deselected package ssh. (Reading database ... 50183 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking ssh (from .../ssh_1%3a1.2.3-9.3_i386.deb) ... debconf: frontend started debconf: trying frontend Text debconf: frontend running, package name is ssh debconf: starting /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/config configure debconf: -- VERSION 2.0 debconf: -- 0 2.0 debconf: -- SET
Re: 2 ipchains questions
Thanks for all this. The reason I'd like the masqueraded connections never to time out is that I'd like machines on my private network to be able to maintain connections indefinitely - specifically, IMAP connections. I'd like to be able to leave an IMAP client running on a machine and not get TCP/IP Port Reset errors on it. Andy -- Andrew J Perrin - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin Asst Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill 269 Hamilton Hall, CB#3210, Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3210 USA On Mon, 28 May 2001, Tobias Galitzien wrote: Do something like: # for initialisation - deny everything that will not be allowed later... ipchains -P input DENY ipchains -P forward DENY ipchains -P output DENY ipchains -F # allow local things ipchains -A input -j ACCEPT -i lo ipchains -A output -j ACCEPT -i lo # allow SSH connections from eth1 (and reply packets) ipchains -A input -j ACCEPT -p tcp -i eth1 -s 0.0.0.0/0 1024: -d IP of eth1 22 ipchains -A output -j ACCEPT -p tcp -i eth1 -d 0.0.0.0/0 1024: -s IP of eth1 22 AFAIR you don't have to worry about response packets from masqueraded connections. They will bypass the input and output chains. For the timeout of masquerading see the -S option of ipchains. I think it is not the best idea to make connections never time out (quite sure it is not even possible) because you will eventually run out of port numbers. Just set it to a reasonable high value - like one hour - don't know what the max is. Tobias On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 03:23:58PM -0500, Andrew Perrin wrote: I now have a DSL connection, and as such would like to use ipchains to do the following: 1.) Deny all incoming packets coming in on eth1 (the card connected to the DSL gateway) except those destined for port 22 (ssh) or ICMP packets, or of course packets responding to outgoing packets; and 2.) Make masqueraded connections from other machines on my private network never time out. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ugh. more lilo probs
Hi, This is a sort of followup to the lilo-related problems I was having some days ago. Adding the linear option to my /etc/lilo.conf didn't effect a fix: I still got the cascade of LI down the screen when I tried to boot up. SO: I uninstalled the lilo pkg, dpkg --purged it, and tried to reinstall. ... only to have dpkg complain that my /etc/fstab file, specifically the entry for /dev/hda3, was problematic (I wish I had the output, for the exact wording - something about the fact that /dev/hda3 didn't look like a block device ... I think). For what it's worth, here is that file, which I have never (in my memory) touched: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # file system mount point type options dump pass /dev/hda3 / ext2defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/hda2 noneswapsw 0 0 proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/fd0/floppy autodefaults,user,noauto0 0 /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0 0 /dev/cdrom2 /cdrom2 iso9660 defaults,rw,user,noauto 0 0 Finally, I removed lilo again, dpkg --purge 'd it and installed grub. Rebooted. I *still* get the endless cascade of LIs. Where could these be coming from? I will study up on grub -- which seems to require some manual configuring -- but I'm stumped as to why this LI b.s. keeps happening on bootup. I'd really rather not have to tank this system and start fresh. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Glenn ++ http://www.burningclown.com Everyone's Portal to Nothing At All ++
And for the hundredth time...
Hi, I've recently tried to update my system from 2.2r2 to testing, and now my eth0 has disappeared. Now I _know_ this has been discussed before (I checked the archive) yet everything I have tried does _not_ work. Here it goes, I have a cable connection with a dynamic ip using dhcp, my /etc/network/interfaces looks like this: iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet dhcp If I add auto to make it look like this: auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp And /etc/init.d/network start I get: option without interface. Even if I add alias eth0 ne2k-pci and update-modules it still doesn't work. Does anyone have any ideas? And why on Earth does this happen. Jared
Re: Upgrading to Testing
Jim McCloskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson) wrote: | testing started off as a copy of stable, but at various times I think | things have got out of kilter in such a way as to leave certain packages | in stable and unstable but not testing (but I may be misremembering | there) That seems to have been true for sawmill/sawfish for some time now. Anyone know why? The current version is 0.38 (in unstable). The version in stable is 0.20. The renaming meant that sawfish (in unstable) was considered a new package, so the fact that sawmill was in stable didn't help it. sawfish is a GNOME package and so depends on the entire world, so hang on a second while I unravel what's going on ... sawfish is more or less waiting on two things: gnome-libs, and librep/rep-gtk. I think that the rep stuff mostly just needs a manual nudge, but it's hard to tell for sure; the new gnome-libs appears to make libgal-dev uninstallable for some reason, God knows what (although I have a few ideas). GNOME-related things are almost impossible to get into testing sometimes. :( Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SOUND
Hello, Tobias and all ! I did that you explain, but I wasn`t able. See my outputs debian:~# play asd.wav playing asd.wav modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0 modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-3 sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': No such device debian:~# ls -l /dev/dsp crw-rw1 root audio 14, 3 Jul 5 2000 /dev/dsp debian:~# lsmod Module Size Used by nls_cp437 3904 2 (autoclean) vfat9008 1 (autoclean) serial 19564 1 (autoclean) sound 57592 0 (unused) soundlow 416 0 [sound] soundcore 2628 3 [sound] unix 10212 2 (autoclean) If need (I don`t know), my dmesg output is going attached, ok ? Tom On Sun, 27 May 2001 23:45:18 +0200 Tobias Galitzien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should be able to play wav files with a utility like sox. It comes with handy shell scripts that implement a play and a rec command. Mid files can be played with playmidi. Tobias On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 05:18:20AM -0300, Antonio Lobato wrote: I have a SoundBlaster 16 sound card (no Plug and Play). I`m able to play CD`s on my computer after the command: modprobe sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5. But I don`t know how to play/record midis and wav`s. Must I to configure more something ? If so, How ? Dmesg Description: Binary data
Re: The following packages have been kept back
On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 08:55:40PM +0200, Bart Martens wrote: On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 01:30:41PM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 06:53:16PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I get it to upgrade my libc6? For some reason, apt doesn't want to upgrade libc6 automatically. Try an `apt-get install libc6`; it'll probably just go right through, No, it doesn't. Since you didn't mention any error message being returned, I assume it just said that the most current version is already installed, yes? What's your /etc/apt/sources.list say? -- That's not gibberish... It's Linux. - Byers, The Lone Gunmen Geek Code 3.12: GCS d? s+: a C++ UL$ P+ L+++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w--- O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv+ b+ DI D G e* h r y+
downgrading with apt
Is there a way to force apt-get to install downgraded packages? One or two packages are no problem... using dpkg works just fine with them. But how could you downgrade your system from testing to stable, for example? Is it even possible? AFAIK, apt wont even download packages if it thinks that they are older than what's registered. If I could at least get it to do that, then I could have dpkg install them over the newer versions. -- John Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get my GnuPG public key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new. - Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
