Re: Motherboard for desktops with preinstalled Debian

2008-07-24 Thread Jonathan Kaye
Shachar Or wrote:

> On Tuesday 22 July 2008 12:12, Jonathan Kaye wrote:
>> Yes, Shachar. I was running Etch on this motherboard when Etch
>> was "testing". Since I'm tracking "testing" and not Etch, my "testing"
>> automatically became "Lenny". But Etch did run with no problems then so I
>> don't see why it wouldn't run now.
> 
> Does the S/PDIF work? Do all the sound plugs work correctly? Can you
> please paste some outputs like lspci -nn and lshw?
> 
>> Cheers,
>> Jonathan
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> 
Hi Shachar,
I never tried RAID but Paul has answered that question. All my sound plugs
work correctly. I have always used the precompiled linux-image packages for
my kernel. I never put any parameters except telling it to ignore a certain
hard disk. (/dev/hdb)
---
~$ lspci -nn
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8385 [K8T800 AGP] Host
Bridge [1106:3188] (rev 01)
00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI bridge
[K8T800/K8T890 South] [1106:b188]
00:07.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394) [0c00]: VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host
Controller [1106:3044] (rev 46)
00:0a.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8001
Gigabit Ethernet Controller [11ab:4320] (rev 13)
00:0f.0 RAID bus controller [0104]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA
RAID Controller [1106:3149] (rev 80)
00:0f.1 IDE interface [0101]: VIA Technologies, Inc.
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE [1106:0571] (rev
06)
00:10.0 USB Controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1
Controller [1106:3038] (rev 81)
00:10.1 USB Controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1
Controller [1106:3038] (rev 81)
00:10.2 USB Controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1
Controller [1106:3038] (rev 81)
00:10.3 USB Controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1
Controller [1106:3038] (rev 81)
00:10.4 USB Controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 [1106:3104]
(rev 86)
00:11.0 ISA bridge [0601]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge
[KT600/K8T800/K8T890 South] [1106:3227]
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: VIA Technologies, Inc.
VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller [1106:3059] (rev 60)
00:11.6 Communication controller [0780]: VIA Technologies, Inc. AC'97 Modem
Controller [1106:3068] (rev 80)
00:18.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8
[Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration [1022:1100]
00:18.1 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8
[Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map [1022:1101]
00:18.2 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8
[Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller [1022:1102]
00:18.3 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8
[Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control [1022:1103]
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AS
[Radeon 9550] [1002:4153]
01:00.1 Display controller [0380]: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AS [Radeon
9550] (Secondary) [1002:4173]
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The output to lshw is rather lengthy so I'll try an attachment if the news
group permits this.
Cheers,
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~$ sudo lshw

attila

description: Desktop Computer

product: To Be Filled By O.E.M.

vendor: To Be Filled By O.E.M.

version: To Be Filled By O.E.M.

serial: To Be Filled By O.E.M.

width: 32 bits

capabilities: smbios-2.3 dmi-2.3 smp-1.4 smp

configuration: boot=normal chassis=desktop cpus=1 
uuid=48C9B774-4B28-D911-8CC2-90A1B5477937

  *-core

   description: Motherboard

   product: K8VSEDX

   vendor: ASUSTeK Computer Inc.

   physical id: 0

   version: Rev 2.00

   serial: MB-1234567890

 *-firmware

  description: BIOS

  vendor: American Megatrends Inc.

  physical id: 0

  version: 1004.006 (08/03/2004)

  size: 64KiB

  capacity: 448KiB

  capabilities: isa pci pnp apm upgrade shadowing escd cdboot 
bootselect socketedrom edd int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int13floppy2880 
int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer int10video acpi usb agp 
ls120boot zipboot biosbootspecification

 *-cpu

  description: CPU

  product: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+

  vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]

  physical id: 4

  bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  version: 15.12.0

  serial: To Be Filled By O.E.M.

  slot: Socket 754

  size: 2200MHz

  capacity: 2400MHz

  width: 64 bits

  clock: 200MHz

  capabilities: boot fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce 
cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx 
mmxext x86-64 3dnowext 3dnow up ts fid vid ttp

*-cache:0

  

Re: my ip was previously banned at http://forums.debian.net/

2008-07-24 Thread Bob Cox
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 22:16:39 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West ([EMAIL 
PROTECTED]) wrote: 

> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:21:23PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 18:20 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 14:57 흍㒲횛漨꺋帢ᚯ禫⵪
> > 
> > Paul,
> > 
> > is your client hosed, or mine, or something else?  The last two emails
> > you sent only showed what is quoted above.  On my screen it looks like
> > asian writting and some block char and has one line.
> 
> well, Paul's original mail looks good here in mutt/urxvt, though what
> you've quoted clearly doesn't look right...

Paul's messages appear fine here also, but comparing his messages with
those of others using GPG signing (and hence using quoted-printable),
the difference is that there is no 'charset' declared:

(Paul)
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 

(Damon)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

(Andrew)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

(Various others)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

(One other)
Content-Type: text/plain;
  charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

And so on.

With no charset value, maybe the strange characters are because of some
weird default character set on the system used to view the message?

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Re: Cron jobs and root account locked on Lenny

2008-07-24 Thread Thilo Six
Alexander Fortin wrote the following on 24.07.2008 23:09



hi

want to comment on the bugreport be my guest:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=492307

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Re: Can't start X-Server as normal user

2008-07-24 Thread web32p2

>> # startx ...works
>> $ startx ...does not
> I would start by looking in /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config and making sure the
> "allowed_users" line equals "console".

less /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config
[snip]
allowed_users=console
nice_value=0

I also tried to post less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
but failed twice - maybe the file was too long?
Anyhow I do not expect the problem to be in the
X-Server Configuration because Xorg.0.log has no
error messages (EE).

In /home/sam/.xsession-errors I can see
Xsession: X session started for sam at Fre Jul 25 09:07:21 CEST 2008
open: Permission denied

So, in my opinion this says that users do not have permission to
start X.

Thanks for the inputs so far.

sam


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Comprendiendo la Psicología del Cliente - Gotas de Aprendizaje de Ventas & Servi

2008-07-24 Thread Cursos & Seminarios
Estimado Lector

¿Cuántas veces nuestros clientes nos comunican su insatisfacción?. ¿Usted lo 
sabe?

El 96% de los clientes descontentos nunca va a protestar por la forma en que 
los hemos tratado, el 90% le contará por lo menos a otras 9 personas lo 
descontento que está con nuestra compañía. El 13% comunicará a un mínimo de 20 
personas lo mal que ha sido tratado, estos porcentajes u otros muy parecidos 
seguramente los hemos visto en otras oportunidades, sin embargo, ¿Cuántas veces 
nos hemos detenido a reflexionar sobre lo que esto representa para nuestro 
negocio?

En cada caso particular si conoce una estimación razonable de quejas 
multiplíquelas por 20 y observará lo alarmante que es no dar un buen servicio a 
las personas que nos vienen a comprar.

Hagamos un ejemplo: usted durante el mes pasado detectó 10 quejas de clientes 
insatisfechos, uno de ellos se han convertido en ex cliente. De esos 9 ex 
clientes 8 se lo comunicarán a 9 de sus conocidos o amigos, el noveno que no es 
tan discreto seguramente se lo contó a un mínimo de 20 personas. Un simple 
cálculo matemático nos demuestra que el mal servicio que le hemos brindado a 10 
perosnas ahora lo saben 101.

¿Por qué sus clientes han actuado de esa manera? ¿Por qué no le han permitido a 
usted conocer su insatisfacción? Una medición realizada nos indica que los 
clientes tiene pensamientos que si pudiéramos escuchar nos dirían sus 
sentimientos del por qué están descontentos, enumerando algunos de ellos 
podríamos decir que los clientes nos dirían:

No se preocupan por mí. 
Es difícil que pueda decirle que estoy insatisfecho 
Por qué tengo que hacerle el trabajo corrigiéndoles sus propios errores. 
Ni siquiera merece mis comentarios.
La mayor parte de esta gente piensa que si realmente su organización los trata 
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Pero a usted si le importa y mucho que el cliente esté satisfecho y también le 
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Re: my ip was previously banned at http://forums.debian.net/

2008-07-24 Thread Chris Burkhardt

Damon L. Chesser wrote:

On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 18:20 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:

On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 14:57 흍㒲횛漨꺋帢ᚯ禫⵪


Paul,

is your client hosed, or mine, or something else?  


It must be somewhere towards your end, because Paul's responses appear as 
perfectly legible text/plain here. Is it only his emails that get mangled for you?


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Re: my ip was previously banned at http://forums.debian.net/

2008-07-24 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:21:23PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 18:20 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 14:57 흍㒲횛漨꺋帢ᚯ禫⵪
> 
> Paul,
> 
> is your client hosed, or mine, or something else?  The last two emails
> you sent only showed what is quoted above.  On my screen it looks like
> asian writting and some block char and has one line.

well, Paul's original mail looks good here in mutt/urxvt, though what
you've quoted clearly doesn't look right...

A


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Re: Can't start X-Server as normal user

2008-07-24 Thread web32p2





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Re: my ip was previously banned at http://forums.debian.net/

2008-07-24 Thread Damon L. Chesser
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 18:20 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 14:57 흍㒲횛漨꺋帢ᚯ禫⵪

Paul,

is your client hosed, or mine, or something else?  The last two emails
you sent only showed what is quoted above.  On my screen it looks like
asian writting and some block char and has one line.
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Re: my ip was previously banned at http://forums.debian.net/

2008-07-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 14:57 +1000, stabbyjones wrote:
> I have a static ip from my new isp and apparently it's been banned
> from http://forums.debian.net/
> 
> Is there any way to get it unbanned? because it's banned i can't find
> any admin to contact and i can't browse posts. it also can't be
> changed without paying.

And if it's the entire netblock that's banned, that might not even help.
Why bother with some unofficial forum when you've got the official
mailing list right here anyway?  Way easier to use and manage than a
forum, and always accessable.

> alternatively a way to cut debian forums out of google search results
> would stop me getting my hopes up.

Append the string on the next line to the ends of searches to avoid
hitting that forum:

-site:forums.debian.net

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Re: Motherboard for desktops with preinstalled Debian

2008-07-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 13:09 +0300, Shachar Or wrote:
> On Tuesday 22 July 2008 12:12, Jonathan Kaye wrote:
> > Yes, Shachar. I was running Etch on this motherboard when Etch
> > was "testing". Since I'm tracking "testing" and not Etch, my "testing"
> > automatically became "Lenny". But Etch did run with no problems then so I
> > don't see why it wouldn't run now.
> 
> Did you ever try the RAID controller, please?

My experience with RAID on Linux is that 99 times out of 100, it just
works.  Linux is way ahead of Windows in terms of hardware support, as
long as you avoid nVidia's video cards...

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Re: The (New?) xorg configuration system

2008-07-24 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:28:37 -0500
"Mumia W.." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 07/22/2008 07:05 PM, Celejar wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> 
> Hello Celejar.
> 
> > My xorg.conf files used to have sections such as these:
> > [... sections snipped ...]
> > My current xorg.conf doesn't.  I seem to recall reading on this list
> > that current xorg.conf's are simpler, but where did all the
> > configuration options go?  Am I supposed to add back the sections that
> > I need manually, in order to set the options that I need?  E.g., 
> > currently my Synaptics touchpad's scrollbar is inoperable.
> > 
> 
> Yes, you'll need to add those sections back. Your current xorg.conf 
> might actually work. X allows for alternate configuration files under 
> /etc/X11, so your "old" xorg.conf can be named xorg-old.conf, and you 
> could start it like so:
> 
> startx -- :1 -config xorg-old.conf
> 
> If that works, you have a good candidate for the real xorg.conf; if not, 
> you can continue adjusting the file till it does work.
> 
> Someone was nice enough to post this link for me: 
> http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12

Thanks.  I'll be playing with this stuff next time I start X, as per my
other messages in this thread.

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Re: The (New?) xorg configuration system

2008-07-24 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:17:27 -0400
"Damon L. Chesser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 10:18 +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> > On 2008-07-23 20:06, Damon L. Chesser wrote:

...

> > > Once you KNOW to look under xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (really
> > > intuitive, that, it should just be /usr/share/doc/synaptics, how are
> > > you supposed to know to look for xserver-xorg-input-synaptics?)
> > 
> > $ aptitude search synaptics
> > i   gsynaptics  - configuration tool for Synaptics
> > touchpad
> > p   libsynaptics-dev- library to access the synaptics
> > touch pad
> > p   libsynaptics0   - library to access the synaptics
> > touch pad
> > p   xfree86-driver-synaptics- dummy package to upgrade to X.Org
> > new mod
> > v   xorg-driver-synaptics   -
> > i A xserver-xorg-input-synaptics- Synaptics TouchPad driver for
> > X.Org/XFree
> > 
> > gives you the hint.

I knew about the xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package; I was just
thrown by the new style of xorg.conf.  I really should have
checked /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics.

> > gsynaptics, by the way, is a graphical configuration tool to configure
> > the touchpad 'on the fly'. I don't know if it can be used to disable the
> > touchpad while typing thing, but you already found a solution.

I've played with it in the past, but I've never done much
experimentation with synaptics options.  We'll soon change that.   

> > Another handy tool I use is unclutter, which hides the mouse curser
> > after some time, so it doesn't get into the way while you're just reading.

I've been using it for a while; one of the many great things I learned
from this list.

> > Johannes

> Damon L. Chesser

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Re: The (New?) xorg configuration system

2008-07-24 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:48:45 +0200
Johannes Wiedersich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On 2008-07-23 16:50, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Synaptics_Touchpad
> > 
> > http://johnny.chadda.se/2007/08/12/speed-up-your-synaptics-touchpad-in-ubuntu/
> > 
> > http://johnny.chadda.se/2007/08/12/disable-the-synaptics-touchpad-when-typing/
> > 
> > Really, the first is enough to get your touchpad working with some advanced 
> > options.  
> 
> or just look at
> /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/README.Debian
> 
> which should be sufficient to get you going^^^scrolling.
> 
> 8-D

Thanks.  I should be okay now, as per my other messages on this thread;
I'll certainly return if I'm not :)

> Johannes

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Re: The (New?) xorg configuration system

2008-07-24 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:50:45 -0400
"Damon L. Chesser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


...

> After sleeping I pulled out my laptop and got these links:
> 
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Synaptics_Touchpad
> 
> http://johnny.chadda.se/2007/08/12/speed-up-your-synaptics-touchpad-in-ubuntu/
> 
> http://johnny.chadda.se/2007/08/12/disable-the-synaptics-touchpad-when-typing/
> 
> Really, the first is enough to get your touchpad working with some advanced 
> options.  

Thanks again.  Now that I understand that I'll just have to add the
sections back to xorg.conf, I think I'll be okay; the disappearance of
my previously existing sections just confused me.

> Damon L. Chesser

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Re: The (New?) xorg configuration system

2008-07-24 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:29:59 -0400
"Damon L. Chesser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tuesday 22 July 2008 08:05:12 pm Celejar wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > My xorg.conf files used to have sections such as these:

...

> > My current xorg.conf doesn't.  I seem to recall reading on this list
> > that current xorg.conf's are simpler, but where did all the
> > configuration options go?  Am I supposed to add back the sections that
> > I need manually, in order to set the options that I need?  E.g.,
> > currently my Synaptics touchpad's scrollbar is inoperable.
> >
> > Celejar

> In a word, Yes.
> 
> For an example you can see /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics and 
> the 
> ever present/cryptic man synaptics.

...

> http://wiki.zenwalk.org/index.php?title=Synaptics_Touchpad
> 
> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics
> 
> HTH

Thanks.  I'll be giving this stuff a try next time I restart X.

> Damon L. Chesser

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Re: [OT] iw page scroll speed

2008-07-24 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
Le vendredi 25 juillet 2008, Hugo Vanwoerkom a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> I want to make the page scroll speed in iceweasel 3 with my
> mousewheel more responsive. It's way too slow now. I sit twiddling
> the wheel and nothing happens.
>
> Browsing the forums brings no solution.
>
> Anyone have a suggestion?
>
> Hugo

There was an extension in iceweasel 2 which did that, I don't know if it 
still exists in iceweasel 3. I think the name was smoothwheel.

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[OT] iw page scroll speed

2008-07-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

I want to make the page scroll speed in iceweasel 3 with my mousewheel 
more responsive. It's way too slow now. I sit twiddling the wheel and 
nothing happens.


Browsing the forums brings no solution.

Anyone have a suggestion?

Hugo


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Re: How to fix resolv.conf?

2008-07-24 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 07:34:14AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 04:35:59PM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> > When connecting to internet with a certain provider, I have problems with
> > browsing.  Then I want to fill the file /etc/resolv.conf with the proper dns
> > servers but the file changes automatically during the connection being 
> > filled
> > with values different from the ones I want.
> > 
> > Googling around I experimented many possible solutions but none worked
> > (e.g. edit the file /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf).
> > Even putting off the write permissions over resolv.conf did not work: it 
> > must
> > be created every time.
> > 
> > Does anyone have any experience about a real solution?
> 
> sounds more like a problem with your provider, they normally provide
> these details in the connection 
forget about this, later email it seems like you are getting the
information its just not being written to the file

> 
> > 
> > Thanks for any help
> > Rodolfo
> > 
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Will Lenny stable have gnome-panel 2.22 or 2.20

2008-07-24 Thread Nathaniel Homier

Gnome-panel, will it be 2.22 or 2.20 when Lenny is released.


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Re: How to fix resolv.conf?

2008-07-24 Thread Alex Samad
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 04:35:59PM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> When connecting to internet with a certain provider, I have problems with
> browsing.  Then I want to fill the file /etc/resolv.conf with the proper dns
> servers but the file changes automatically during the connection being filled
> with values different from the ones I want.
> 
> Googling around I experimented many possible solutions but none worked
> (e.g. edit the file /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf).
> Even putting off the write permissions over resolv.conf did not work: it must
> be created every time.
> 
> Does anyone have any experience about a real solution?

sounds more like a problem with your provider, they normally provide
these details in the connection 

> 
> Thanks for any help
> Rodolfo
> 
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Re: Can't start X-Server as normal user

2008-07-24 Thread web32p2

>> # startx ...works
>> $ startx ...does not
> I would start by looking in /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config and making sure the
> "allowed_users" line equals "console".

less /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config
# Xwrapper.config (Debian X Window System server wrapper configuration
file)
#
# This file was generated by the post-installation script of the x11-common
# package using values from the debconf database.
#
# See the Xwrapper.config(5) manual page for more information.
#
# This file is automatically updated on upgrades of the x11-common package
# *only* if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of that
package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically
updated
# again, run the following command as root:
#   dpkg-reconfigure x11-common
allowed_users=console
nice_value=0




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Re: usb2 port gets very slow on 2-gig Flash Drive.

2008-07-24 Thread Alex Samad
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 08:27:01AM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote:
> I needed to reload the flash drive on a Zenstone 2-gig mp3
> player. I have noticed that when the drive is full, operations
> all still work, but take much longer than one might expect which
> probably has something to do with the fat32 file system and size
> of the FAT table.

[snip]

> I plan to let this tar command run its natural course to see
> what happens, but is there anything I can do with the existing
> system to optimise the performance?

I usually load my usb stick with async and have found this to improve
performance greatly, but you must use sync to flush the buffers


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> 
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> Systems Engineer
> OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group
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Re: Can't start X-Server as normal user

2008-07-24 Thread web32p2





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Re: Cron jobs and root account locked on Lenny

2008-07-24 Thread Alexander Fortin
On Jul 24, 6:50 pm, Thilo Six <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> well here it does. Tested with both Debian lenny and Ubuntu hardy.
> Which version do you use?
>
> If you have a locked account without that expiry and use either of the above
> just 'lock' that account again and then take a look at /etc/shadow.

I'm on Lenny:
klingon:/home/alieno# dpkg -l *passwd*|grep ^ii
ii  base-passwd 3.5.17
ii  passwd  1:4.1.1-2

I previously fixed it using "usermod -L" as suggested by
Sven Joachim, and it was working fine:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo su
klingon:/home/alieno# passwd -S root
root L 07/23/2008 0 9 7 -1
(no warnings and cronjobs ok)

klingon:/home/alieno# passwd -l root
Password changed.
klingon:/home/alieno# passwd -S root
root L 07/23/2008 0 9 7 -1
klingon:/home/alieno# head -1 /etc/shadow
root:!$1$MwKDBs6O$H.ZfnYq7C.xzVUdHRmwL31:14084:0:9:7::1:

So the "passwd -S" output is the same. But:

klingon:/home/alieno# exit
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo su
Your account has expired; please contact your system administrator
su: User account has expired
(Ignored)
klingon:/home/alieno# head -1 /etc/shadow
root:!$1$MwKDBs6O$H.ZfnYq7C.xzVUdHRmwL31:14084:0:9:7::1:

and from syslog:
Jul 24 22:44:01 klingon CRON[4998]: User account has expired

klingon:/home/alieno# passwd
Enter new UNIX password:
Retype new UNIX password:
passwd: password updated successfully
klingon:/home/alieno# passwd -S root
root P 07/24/2008 0 9 7 -1
#klingon:/home/alieno# head -1 /etc/shadow
root:$1$0pbophfn$B3EpqcFkcezuOYY1D6mNr/:14084:0:9:7::1:
klingon:/home/alieno# exit
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo su
Your account has expired; please contact your system administrator
su: User account has expired
(Ignored)

Locking back with usermod doesn't work anymore!
klingon:/home/alieno# usermod -L root
klingon:/home/alieno# head -1 /etc/shadow
root:!$1$b/Xw.zn6$qMfTmi6zbxeM2nWIDqgMR.:14084:0:9:7::1:
klingon:/home/alieno# passwd -S root
root L 07/24/2008 0 9 7 -1
klingon:/home/alieno# exit
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo su
Your account has expired; please contact your system administrator
su: User account has expired
(Ignored)

(and of course root cronjobs not working anymore)

It works if i do
klingon:/home/alieno# passwd -u root
klingon:/home/alieno# passwd -S
root P 07/24/2008 0 9 7 -1
klingon:/home/alieno# head -1 /etc/shadow
root:$1$b/Xw.zn6$qMfTmi6zbxeM2nWIDqgMR.:14084:0:9:7:::
klingon:/home/alieno# usermod -L root
klingon:/home/alieno# passwd -S
root L 07/24/2008 0 9 7 -1
klingon:/home/alieno# head -1 /etc/shadow
root:!$1$b/Xw.zn6$qMfTmi6zbxeM2nWIDqgMR.:14084:0:9:7:::
klingon:/home/alieno# exit
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo su
klingon:/home/alieno#

and cronjobs are running ok


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Re: Cron jobs and root account locked on Lenny

2008-07-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,24.Jul.08, 22:35:01, Thilo Six wrote:
> Andrei Popescu wrote the following on 24.07.2008 22:04
> 
> 
> >> well here it does. Tested with both Debian lenny and Ubuntu hardy.
> >> Which version do you use?
> >  
> > I'm not the OP.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Andrei
> 
> I think that doesn't matter in this regard. You have said your passwd doesn't
> behave as mentioned in the manpage, which would be clearly a bug.
 
I never said *my* passwd doesn't lock, but the OP confirmed that his 
doesn't but usermod does. I just tested and on my machine 'passwd -l' 
and 'usermod -L' have the same effect, at least in the /etc/shadow file.

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Re: Can't start X-Server as normal user

2008-07-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,24.Jul.08, 19:49:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
> # startx ...works
> $ startx ...does not
 
It would be useful to see the error messages on that one. Also 
/var/log/Xorg.0.log might have some clues.

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Re: Can't start X-Server as normal user

2008-07-24 Thread Ron Johnson
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> Hi everyone
> 
> 
> # startx ...works
> $ startx ...does not
> 
> The last thing I can remember I was doing before
> the problem started was
> 
> $ xauth extract mykey :0
> # xauth merge mykey
> # fooprogramm &

Why?

> What I already tryed to solve the problem:
> 
> (I)
> # aptitude --purge 
> # aptitude --purge 
> # aptitude --purge 
> 
> ...and after reinstalled it.
> 
> (II)
> Removed .Xauthority-file of the normal user and
> of root.
> 
> Maybe the problem lies somewhere else. Looking
> forward to your inputs.

Does /var/log/Xorg.0.log have anything useful in it?

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Re: Can't start X-Server as normal user

2008-07-24 Thread Kent West
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> Hi everyone
>
>
> # startx ...works
> $ startx ...does not
I would start by looking in /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config and making sure the
"allowed_users" line equals "console".


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Re: Cron jobs and root account locked on Lenny

2008-07-24 Thread Thilo Six
Andrei Popescu wrote the following on 24.07.2008 22:04


>> well here it does. Tested with both Debian lenny and Ubuntu hardy.
>> Which version do you use?
>  
> I'm not the OP.
> 
> Regards,
> Andrei

I think that doesn't matter in this regard. You have said your passwd doesn't
behave as mentioned in the manpage, which would be clearly a bug.
I said i can reproduce exactly the behaviour mentioned in manpage and
therefore seeking for an explanation of that divergence which resulted in the
question which version you use.

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Can't start X-Server as normal user

2008-07-24 Thread web32p2

Hi everyone


# startx ...works
$ startx ...does not

The last thing I can remember I was doing before
the problem started was

$ xauth extract mykey :0
# xauth merge mykey
# fooprogramm &

What I already tryed to solve the problem:

(I)
# aptitude --purge 
# aptitude --purge 
# aptitude --purge 

...and after reinstalled it.

(II)
Removed .Xauthority-file of the normal user and
of root.

Maybe the problem lies somewhere else. Looking
forward to your inputs.

Cheers

Sam



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Re: How to fix resolv.conf?

2008-07-24 Thread Rodolfo Medina
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 04:35:59PM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

>> When connecting to internet with a certain provider, I have problems with
>> browsing.  Then I want to fill the file /etc/resolv.conf with the proper dns
>> servers but the file changes automatically during the connection being filled
>> with values different from the ones I want.
>> 
>> Googling around I experimented many possible solutions but none worked
>> (e.g. edit the file /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf).
>> Even putting off the write permissions over resolv.conf did not work: it must
>> be created every time.
>> 
>> Does anyone have any experience about a real solution?



[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pavlos Parissis) writes:

> man resolvconf, should help you out



Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Install resolvconf



Thanks.  I installed resolvconf and, as suggested at:

 http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration

, I added the following line:

 dns-nameservers 193.70.152.25 193.70.192.25

to the file /etc/network/interfaces.  Now I can browse, but still the ppp
connection log shows the following values:

 primary   DNS address 10.11.12.13
 secondary DNS address 10.11.12.14

, that are not the ones I want.  It may be important because the connection is
slower than it's supposed to be, and this may be related to the matter.

Thanks for further hints.
Rodolfo


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Re: How to fix resolv.conf?

2008-07-24 Thread Mumia W..

On 07/24/2008 01:42 PM, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

[...]
.  Now, suppose I want the following ppp connection log output:

local  IP address 151.82.24.152
remote IP address 10.6.6.6
primary   DNS address 193.70.152.25
secondary DNS address 193.70.192.25

.  In /etc/resolv.conf I suppose I have to put the lines:

nameserver 193.70.152.25
nameserver 193.70.192.25

.  How do you suggest I should edit /etc/network/interface?

Thanks
Rodolfo




If you use pppd, removing the "usepeerdns" option from /etc/ppp/options 
should work; however, on my Etch system, pppd writes its file to 
/etc/ppp/resolv.conf, and the script /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/userpeerdns 
merges the data into /etc/resolv.conf, so I would remove execute 
permissions on /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/usepeerdns.


You probably only need to do one of those things--not both.

What OS/distribution are you using?

P.S.
I'm using dialup, and my /etc/resolv.conf is unchanged from when I last 
set it up.



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Re: Cron jobs and root account locked on Lenny

2008-07-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,24.Jul.08, 18:47:20, Thilo Six wrote:
 
> well here it does. Tested with both Debian lenny and Ubuntu hardy.
> Which version do you use?
 
I'm not the OP.

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Re: How to fix resolv.conf?

2008-07-24 Thread Damon L. Chesser
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 19:42 +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

SNIP

> 
> 
> 
> Thanks.  My `/etc/network/interface' is very poor:
> 
> 
> # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
> 
> # The loopback network interface
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
> 
> 
> .  Now, suppose I want the following ppp connection log output:
> 
> local  IP address 151.82.24.152
> remote IP address 10.6.6.6
> primary   DNS address 193.70.152.25
> secondary DNS address 193.70.192.25
> 
> .  In /etc/resolv.conf I suppose I have to put the lines:
> 
> nameserver 193.70.152.25
> nameserver 193.70.192.25
> 
> .  How do you suggest I should edit /etc/network/interface?
> 
> Thanks
> Rodolfo

Rodolfo,

I do not know what you need for PPP and we will have to wait for someone
who knows to respond.

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Re: How to fix resolv.conf?

2008-07-24 Thread Rodolfo Medina
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 04:35:59PM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

>> When connecting to internet with a certain provider, I have problems with
>> browsing.  Then I want to fill the file /etc/resolv.conf with the proper dns
>> servers but the file changes automatically during the connection being filled
>> with values different from the ones I want.
>> 
>> Googling around I experimented many possible solutions but none worked
>> (e.g. edit the file /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf).
>> Even putting off the write permissions over resolv.conf did not work: it must
>> be created every time.
>> 
>> Does anyone have any experience about a real solution?


"Damon L. Chesser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Rodolfo,
>
> I don't understand your issue.  Are you using dhcp, you must be, and as
> a result, your resolve.conf changes with input from the dhcp server.
> Use static IP in /etc/network/interfaces, edit resolv.conf, you are
> done.
>
> Here is a copy of my files:
>
>  cat /etc/resolv.conf 
> domain damtek.org
> search damtek.org
> nameserver 68.87.68.162
> nameserver 68.87.74.162
> nameserver 192.168.200.1
>
>  cat /etc/network/interfaces
> # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
>
> # The loopback network interface
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
>
> # The primary network interface
> auto eth0
> iface eth0 inet static
> # address 192.168.200.15
> # netmask 255.255.255.0
> # network 192.168.200.0
> # broadcast 192.168.200.255
> # gateway 192.168.200.1
>   # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed
>   dns-nameservers 192.168.200.1
>   dns-search damtek.org
>   address 192.168.200.15
>   netmask 255.255.255.0
>   gateway 192.168.200.1
>
>
> iface eth1 inet static
> address 192.168.200.16
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> gateway 192.168.200.1
>
>
> My dns servers do not now change as a result.  If you use dhcp (and have
> to use it) then in my case the name servers are given to me by my
> router/dns server which gets it from the ISP.  I do not have resolveconf
> package installed.  Does this help?



Thanks.  My `/etc/network/interface' is very poor:


# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback


.  Now, suppose I want the following ppp connection log output:

local  IP address 151.82.24.152
remote IP address 10.6.6.6
primary   DNS address 193.70.152.25
secondary DNS address 193.70.192.25

.  In /etc/resolv.conf I suppose I have to put the lines:

nameserver 193.70.152.25
nameserver 193.70.192.25

.  How do you suggest I should edit /etc/network/interface?

Thanks
Rodolfo


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Re: Greetings and question

2008-07-24 Thread Juan Ignacio

Mumia W.. escribió:

On 07/23/2008 06:37 PM, Juan Ignacio wrote:

Hi [...]


Hi Juan.

Why isn't [gtk-qt-engine] in the repositories? I want this package 
because Firefox looks so awful.

[...]


Others showed you how to grab gtk-qt-engine from Sid. However, it's much 
less risky to just install a theme into Firefox. Almost any theme will 
look better than the default (system theme).







The fact is that I'm using Firefox 3.0 and Thunderbird with the binaries 
I downloaded at Mozilla webpage. I installed them in /opt


If you could suggest me a good theme that goes well with kde, I'd 
appreciate it very much.


Thank you.


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Re: networking crash suddenly in my home LAN

2008-07-24 Thread Csanyi Pal
Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 09:52:22AM +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:
>> Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 08:02:58PM +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:
>> >> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I presume 91.102.227.98 is your public Internet address (eth2 on the
> gateway), you don't see any return packets, which is strange ?  If you
> do the same test on the gateway you see the return packets ?

I asked today my ISP whether has changed anything and they say they
changed my public IP Address. They send to me e-mail back two days but
that e-mail I can't to open then to see this information.

So I cleared in the /etc/shorewall/masq file the ADDRESS column to be
empty. That solve my problem!

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Re: Cron jobs and root account locked on Lenny

2008-07-24 Thread Thilo Six
Andrei Popescu wrote the following on 24.07.2008 18:28




<---  man 1 passwd  -
-l, --lock
Lock the named account. This option disables an account by changing
the password to a value which matches no possible encrypted value,
and by setting the account expiry field to 1.
->


> Interesting, the manpage passwd(1) says that 'passwd -l' should also set 
> account expiry to 1, but it doesn't. Either passwd or the manpage is 
> wrong, so I think this should be reported against the package passwd.
> 
> Regards,
> Andrei

well here it does. Tested with both Debian lenny and Ubuntu hardy.
Which version do you use?

If you have a locked account without that expiry and use either of the above
just 'lock' that account again and then take a look at /etc/shadow.

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Re: Cron jobs and root account locked on Lenny

2008-07-24 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi,

Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Interesting, the manpage passwd(1) says that 'passwd -l' should also set 
> account expiry to 1, but it doesn't. Either passwd or the manpage is 
> wrong, so I think this should be reported against the package passwd.

It sets a value to "1" in my /etc/shadow when I last used it.  I assume
that would be the expiry field?

I've got passwd 1:4.1.1-2 installed (from testing).

Regards,
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Re: apt-get new package management capability

2008-07-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,24.Jul.08, 07:10:15, Daniel Burrows wrote:
 
>   You do need to run aptitude once to transfer the information.  It
> should move the automatic flags to the apt database and clear them from
> its own when you start it (run it without any arguments).
 
Will this be documented in the release notes?

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Re: Greetings and question

2008-07-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,24.Jul.08, 10:42:21, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:
 
> http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gtk-qt-engine.html
> 
> It should be available in 7 days but we are in the freezing phase for the 
> next 
> Debian stable so maybe you'll have to wait more. I think it's just libraries 
> which are getting frozen now so it should be good.
 
The full freeze should happen next week, but packages already in 
unstable will migrate as usual.

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Re: Cron jobs and root account locked on Lenny

2008-07-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,24.Jul.08, 11:06:47, Thilo Six wrote:
> Alexander Fortin wrote the following on 24.07.2008 10:03
> 
> 
> 
> > Yep, using usermod instead of passwd seems to work fine!
> > So, to report a bug or not to? Which mailing list?
> 
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=389183
 
Interesting, the manpage passwd(1) says that 'passwd -l' should also set 
account expiry to 1, but it doesn't. Either passwd or the manpage is 
wrong, so I think this should be reported against the package passwd.

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Re: The (New?) xorg configuration system

2008-07-24 Thread Damon L. Chesser
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 10:18 +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> On 2008-07-23 20:06, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> > All ready covered two emails ago.
> >>> In a word, Yes.
> 
> Oooops, sorry for not reading the thread careful enough.
> 
> > Notice I said ADVANCED options?  I find killing the touchpad while
> > typing while still using the alt and ctrl keys with out killing the
> > touchpad a useful feature as is circular scrolling.
> > 
> > Once you KNOW to look under xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (really
> > intuitive, that, it should just be /usr/share/doc/synaptics, how are
> > you supposed to know to look for xserver-xorg-input-synaptics?)
> 
> $ aptitude search synaptics
> i   gsynaptics  - configuration tool for Synaptics
> touchpad
> p   libsynaptics-dev- library to access the synaptics
> touch pad
> p   libsynaptics0   - library to access the synaptics
> touch pad
> p   xfree86-driver-synaptics- dummy package to upgrade to X.Org
> new mod
> v   xorg-driver-synaptics   -
> i A xserver-xorg-input-synaptics- Synaptics TouchPad driver for
> X.Org/XFree
> 
> gives you the hint.
> 
> gsynaptics, by the way, is a graphical configuration tool to configure
> the touchpad 'on the fly'. I don't know if it can be used to disable the
> touchpad while typing thing, but you already found a solution.
> 
> Another handy tool I use is unclutter, which hides the mouse curser
> after some time, so it doesn't get into the way while you're just reading.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Johannes

I must confess, I did not do aptitude  search synaptics.  Sometimes the
basics hit you the hardest.  The gui tools do not give you the most
options, but they do work.  I tested gsynaptics out.  I prefer the good
ole text edit for more control.
> 
> 
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Re: How to fix resolv.conf?

2008-07-24 Thread Damon L. Chesser
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 16:35 +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> When connecting to internet with a certain provider, I have problems with
> browsing.  Then I want to fill the file /etc/resolv.conf with the proper dns
> servers but the file changes automatically during the connection being filled
> with values different from the ones I want.
> 
> Googling around I experimented many possible solutions but none worked
> (e.g. edit the file /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf).
> Even putting off the write permissions over resolv.conf did not work: it must
> be created every time.
> 
> Does anyone have any experience about a real solution?
> 
> Thanks for any help
> Rodolfo
> 
Rodolfo,

I don't understand your issue.  Are you using dhcp, you must be, and as
a result, your resolve.conf changes with input from the dhcp server.
Use static IP in /etc/network/interfaces, edit resolv.conf, you are
done.

Here is a copy of my files:

 cat /etc/resolv.conf 
domain damtek.org
search damtek.org
nameserver 68.87.68.162
nameserver 68.87.74.162
nameserver 192.168.200.1

 cat /etc/network/interfaces
# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
#   address 192.168.200.15
#   netmask 255.255.255.0
#   network 192.168.200.0
#   broadcast 192.168.200.255
#   gateway 192.168.200.1
# dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed
dns-nameservers 192.168.200.1
dns-search damtek.org
address 192.168.200.15
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.200.1


iface eth1 inet static
address 192.168.200.16
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.200.1


My dns servers do not now change as a result.  If you use dhcp (and have
to use it) then in my case the name servers are given to me by my
router/dns server which gets it from the ISP.  I do not have resolveconf
package installed.  Does this help?
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Re: 2.6.25 Issues with IDE (via82xx)

2008-07-24 Thread Ron Johnson
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> Any one had problems with this?
> 
> Hal startup finds bad opcode, "busy" and resets IDE killing DMA, 32-bit 
> access, etc. All this can be restored using hdparm afterwards.
> 
> However, this may be causing other errors on the HD as well.
> 
> No problems with 2.6.23

Please attach a snippet from dmesg or /var/log/syslog.

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usb2 port gets very slow on 2-gig Flash Drive.

2008-07-24 Thread Martin McCormick
I needed to reload the flash drive on a Zenstone 2-gig mp3
player. I have noticed that when the drive is full, operations
all still work, but take much longer than one might expect which
probably has something to do with the fat32 file system and size
of the FAT table.

I started by doing rm -r -f music which is the one and
only main directory. That took about 2 hours to complete and
then it was time to reload it from the Linux computer.

The Linux computer is a 500-MHZ Pentium running a 2.6.5
kernel and the usb2 port is, by definition 13 Mb so it is slow,
about 10-meg Ethernet slow under normal conditions.

What actually happens is much worse. After doing the rm
-r -f, I started with an empty drive but the tar program started
running very slowly. It takes at times, 10 minutes to load one
tune that would normally play in 2 or 3 minutes.

Just for fun, I let it plod slowly along and it has been
running now for about 36 hours and is 75% complete but what is
happening?

If I look at the health of the system, it isn't that bad
all be it busy.

$ uptime

 07:21:58 up 2 days, 23:37,  2 users,  load average: 4.00, 4.13, 4.19

It is July 24 and ps ax -Olstart shows me that tar has
been running a very long time:

22986 Tue Jul 22 23:35:01 2008 D pts/13   00:00:40 tar xf 
/home/martin/musicmain.tar

I tried renic-ing tar and the usb mass storage daemon
which has had no effect, either good or bad.

I do remember once that if there is a time lapse of
several minutes between the rm -r -f command to wipe the FAT
table clean and the tar command that initial performance is much
better so there must be a cleanup routine going on somewhere.

This is also true if you unmount the drive and remount it empty.
I seem to remember that it only took a couple of hours to reload
the entire drive when I did things that way.

I did a top command and I am either missing something or nothing
much is wrong:

Tasks:  42 total,   2 running,  40 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  0.3% us,  0.0% sy,  0.0% ni,  0.0% id, 99.7% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
Mem:126424k total,   124572k used, 1852k free, 1604k buffers
Swap:   377488k total,0k used,   377488k free,   102308k cached

  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
23560 martin16   0  2160 1084 1880 R  0.3  0.9   0:00.03 top
1 root  16   0  1492  528 1336 S  0.0  0.4   0:07.26 init
2 root  34  19 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:12.13 ksoftirqd/0
3 root   5 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 events/0
4 root   5 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:04.02 kblockd/0
   10 root   7 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 aio/0
9 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:22.06 kswapd0
   11 root  25   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 jfsIO

I plan to let this tar command run its natural course to see
what happens, but is there anything I can do with the existing
system to optimise the performance?

Thanks.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group


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Re: .deb compilation

2008-07-24 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
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Jerônimo Bezerra wrote:
> Hello Mr Eugene, thanks for your answer.
> 
> I made apt-src install courier-maildrop. It downloaded 3 files and 1
> folder:
> 
> drwxr-xr-x 33 root root 4096 2008-07-24 10:58 courier-0.53.3
> -rw-r--r--  1 root src122318 2007-02-13 07:02 courier_0.53.3-5.diff.gz
> -rw-r--r--  1 root src  1196 2007-02-13 07:02 courier_0.53.3-5.dsc
> -rw-r--r--  1 root src  10531155 2006-10-13 10:02
> courier_0.53.3.orig.tar.gz
> 
> in courier-0.53.3 folder:
> 
> # ls -1 config*
> config.guess
> config.sub
> configure
> configure.in
> 
> There isn't a config.log or another file that could help me.
> I need to know what was the ./configure line used by maintainer.
see courier-0.53.3/debian/rules file
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Re: .deb compilation

2008-07-24 Thread Jerônimo Bezerra

Ansgar Burchardt escreveu:

Hi,

Please do not put your answer before the quoted text (and only quote the
relevant part).  It makes you mail easier to read.

Hi Mr. Ansgar,

I'm sorry for my mistake. And thank you for your answer. It helped me a lot.

Jeronimo


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Re: How to fix resolv.conf?

2008-07-24 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
The Thursday 24 July 2008 17:35:59 Rodolfo Medina, you wrote :
> When connecting to internet with a certain provider, I have problems with
> browsing.  Then I want to fill the file /etc/resolv.conf with the proper
> dns servers but the file changes automatically during the connection being
> filled with values different from the ones I want.
>
> Googling around I experimented many possible solutions but none worked
> (e.g. edit the file /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf).
> Even putting off the write permissions over resolv.conf did not work: it
> must be created every time.
>
> Does anyone have any experience about a real solution?
>
> Thanks for any help
> Rodolfo


What did you try in dhclient.conf ? The option do-forward-updates set to true 
should be the answer.


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Re: usb2 port gets very slow on 2-gig Flash Drive.

2008-07-24 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
The Thursday 24 July 2008 15:27:01 Martin McCormick, you wrote :
> I needed to reload the flash drive on a Zenstone 2-gig mp3
> player. I have noticed that when the drive is full, operations
> all still work, but take much longer than one might expect which
> probably has something to do with the fat32 file system and size
> of the FAT table.
>
>   I started by doing rm -r -f music which is the one and
> only main directory. That took about 2 hours to complete and
> then it was time to reload it from the Linux computer.
>
>   The Linux computer is a 500-MHZ Pentium running a 2.6.5
> kernel and the usb2 port is, by definition 13 Mb so it is slow,
> about 10-meg Ethernet slow under normal conditions.
>
>   What actually happens is much worse. After doing the rm
> -r -f, I started with an empty drive but the tar program started
> running very slowly. It takes at times, 10 minutes to load one
> tune that would normally play in 2 or 3 minutes.
>
>   Just for fun, I let it plod slowly along and it has been
> running now for about 36 hours and is 75% complete but what is
> happening?
>
>   If I look at the health of the system, it isn't that bad
> all be it busy.
>
> $ uptime
>
>  07:21:58 up 2 days, 23:37,  2 users,  load average: 4.00, 4.13, 4.19

Wow, a load average of 4 ? It should be that CPU hungry I think. It shouldn't 
need lots of CPU to make a transfert. Did you try with another key ? Try the 
dd command suggested by Elijah. If it's fast, then you'll be sure it's not a 
USB problem. Maybe a badly written driver ? I don't know, I never heard of 
something like that.

>
>   It is July 24 and ps ax -Olstart shows me that tar has
> been running a very long time:
>
> 22986 Tue Jul 22 23:35:01 2008 D pts/13   00:00:40 tar xf
> /home/martin/musicmain.tar
>
>   I tried renic-ing tar and the usb mass storage daemon
> which has had no effect, either good or bad.
>
>   I do remember once that if there is a time lapse of
> several minutes between the rm -r -f command to wipe the FAT
> table clean and the tar command that initial performance is much
> better so there must be a cleanup routine going on somewhere.
>
> This is also true if you unmount the drive and remount it empty.
> I seem to remember that it only took a couple of hours to reload
> the entire drive when I did things that way.
>
> I did a top command and I am either missing something or nothing
> much is wrong:
>
> Tasks:  42 total,   2 running,  40 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
> Cpu(s):  0.3% us,  0.0% sy,  0.0% ni,  0.0% id, 99.7% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0%
> si Mem:126424k total,   124572k used, 1852k free, 1604k buffers
> Swap:   377488k total,0k used,   377488k free,   102308k cached
>
>   PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
> 23560 martin16   0  2160 1084 1880 R  0.3  0.9   0:00.03 top
> 1 root  16   0  1492  528 1336 S  0.0  0.4   0:07.26 init
> 2 root  34  19 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:12.13 ksoftirqd/0
> 3 root   5 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 events/0
> 4 root   5 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:04.02 kblockd/0
>10 root   7 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 aio/0
> 9 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:22.06 kswapd0
>11 root  25   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 jfsIO
>
> I plan to let this tar command run its natural course to see
> what happens, but is there anything I can do with the existing
> system to optimise the performance?
>
>   Thanks.
>
> Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK
> Systems Engineer
> OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group





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Re: apt-get new package management capability

2008-07-24 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:12:40AM +0300, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
was heard to say:
> On Thu,24.Jul.08, 04:03:17, T o n g wrote:
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > I remember seeing that apt-get can do orphan packages automatic removal
> > now. Does it need special setup? 
> > 
> > Package installed in my long-overhauled Debian was by debfoster, then
> > aptitude. Can I just use apt-get for automatic packages clean up now?
> > How can I transfer the "knowledge" from debfoster/aptitude to apt?
> > 
> > Can anyone show me steps in managing package only by apt-get, or
> > point me to the right web page? 
>  
> aptitude is the recommended package manager, why do you want to switch 
> to apt-get?
> 
> Anyway, the logic for auto-installed packages has moved from aptitude to 
> libapt so all package managers can take advantage of it. If you run 
> lenny or sid (you didn't say) all you have to do is run
> 'apt-get autoremove'.  AFAIR apt-get will tell you when there are 
> packages to be autoremoved.

  You do need to run aptitude once to transfer the information.  It
should move the automatic flags to the apt database and clear them from
its own when you start it (run it without any arguments).

  Daniel


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Re: usb2 port gets very slow on 2-gig Flash Drive.

2008-07-24 Thread elijah r.
Say your flash disk is /dev/sdc and has 1 FAT partition where the
music is stored:

cd ~
dd if=/dev/sdc1 of=zenstone2g.img bs=64M
mkdir /mnt/zenstoneimg
mount -o loop -t msds zenstone2g.img /mnt/zenstoneimg
---delete anything in /mnt/zenstoneimg/music you don't want -
cp -R /path/to/my/music/* /mnt/zenstoneimg/music/
umount /mnt/zenstoneimg
dd if=zenstone2g.img of=/dev/sdc1 bs=64M

You'd only need to run the commands before "mount" once, then keep the
image around for the future.
I don't actually know if this will speed things up, but the idea is
that you are bypassing the filesystem layer over the USB bottleneck
for disk writes.
You make all the filesystem changes to a disk image on your hard disk,
then you stream the bits in that image to the flash disk.
The "bs=64M" is the block size and can be increased or decreased
depending on your situation.  AFAIK, it basically acts like a buffer
in situations like this.

Be very careful with the syntax of dd; one misplaced character and you
could wipe your hard disk or flash drive.

Just an idea.  Let me know if it works out.

-Elijah

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Martin McCormick
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I needed to reload the flash drive on a Zenstone 2-gig mp3
> player. I have noticed that when the drive is full, operations
> all still work, but take much longer than one might expect which
> probably has something to do with the fat32 file system and size
> of the FAT table.
>
>I started by doing rm -r -f music which is the one and
> only main directory. That took about 2 hours to complete and
> then it was time to reload it from the Linux computer.
>
>The Linux computer is a 500-MHZ Pentium running a 2.6.5
> kernel and the usb2 port is, by definition 13 Mb so it is slow,
> about 10-meg Ethernet slow under normal conditions.
>
>What actually happens is much worse. After doing the rm
> -r -f, I started with an empty drive but the tar program started
> running very slowly. It takes at times, 10 minutes to load one
> tune that would normally play in 2 or 3 minutes.
>
>Just for fun, I let it plod slowly along and it has been
> running now for about 36 hours and is 75% complete but what is
> happening?
>
>If I look at the health of the system, it isn't that bad
> all be it busy.
>
> $ uptime
>
>  07:21:58 up 2 days, 23:37,  2 users,  load average: 4.00, 4.13, 4.19
>
>It is July 24 and ps ax -Olstart shows me that tar has
> been running a very long time:
>
> 22986 Tue Jul 22 23:35:01 2008 D pts/13   00:00:40 tar xf 
> /home/martin/musicmain.tar
>
>I tried renic-ing tar and the usb mass storage daemon
> which has had no effect, either good or bad.
>
>I do remember once that if there is a time lapse of
> several minutes between the rm -r -f command to wipe the FAT
> table clean and the tar command that initial performance is much
> better so there must be a cleanup routine going on somewhere.
>
> This is also true if you unmount the drive and remount it empty.
> I seem to remember that it only took a couple of hours to reload
> the entire drive when I did things that way.
>
> I did a top command and I am either missing something or nothing
> much is wrong:
>
> Tasks:  42 total,   2 running,  40 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
> Cpu(s):  0.3% us,  0.0% sy,  0.0% ni,  0.0% id, 99.7% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
> Mem:126424k total,   124572k used, 1852k free, 1604k buffers
> Swap:   377488k total,0k used,   377488k free,   102308k cached
>
>  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
> 23560 martin16   0  2160 1084 1880 R  0.3  0.9   0:00.03 top
>1 root  16   0  1492  528 1336 S  0.0  0.4   0:07.26 init
>2 root  34  19 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:12.13 ksoftirqd/0
>3 root   5 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 events/0
>4 root   5 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:04.02 kblockd/0
>   10 root   7 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 aio/0
>9 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:22.06 kswapd0
>   11 root  25   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 jfsIO
>
> I plan to let this tar command run its natural course to see
> what happens, but is there anything I can do with the existing
> system to optimise the performance?
>
>Thanks.
>
> Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK
> Systems Engineer
> OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group
>
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Re: before I could ping, now I can't

2008-07-24 Thread owens
>
>
>
> Original Message 
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: before I could ping, now I can't
>Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:00:38 +0300
>
>>On Wed,23.Jul.08, 17:51:02, Vwaju wrote:
>>
>>> 13  #I added the following lines (following Linux System Admin p.
>13)
>>> 14  #netmask and network are guesses, because ISP RCN won't give
>info
>>> 15  auto-eth0
>>> 16  iface eth0 inet static
>>> 17address 207.237.37.110
>>> 18netmask 255.255.255.0
>>> 19network 207.237.37.0
>>> 
>>> ifup eth0 reports:
>>> 
>>> /etc/network/interfaces:15: option with empty value
>>> ifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces"
>>
>>Is this the entire file or did you omit something?
>>
>>> Because RCN has refused to give me the network IP address,
>netmask,
>>> and gateway, I expect trouble configuring the interface.  Any
>advice
>>> you have about this is welcome.
>> 
>>How are you supposed to configure it then, via DHCP? The netmask and
>
>>network options are not mandatory, but without a gateway...
>>You could try 207.237.37.1 or .254 for gateway. How did you get it
>to 
>>work before?
>>
>>Regards,
>>Andrei
>>-- 
>>If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
>>(Albert Einstein)
>>
How about configuring the interface for DHCP temporarily.  The
protocol with the ISP will then transfer the gateway and network info
which you could then use to reconfigure the interface as static?
Larry




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Re: How to fix resolv.conf?

2008-07-24 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 04:35:59PM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> When connecting to internet with a certain provider, I have problems with
> browsing.  Then I want to fill the file /etc/resolv.conf with the proper dns
> servers but the file changes automatically during the connection being filled
> with values different from the ones I want.
> 
> Googling around I experimented many possible solutions but none worked
> (e.g. edit the file /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf).
> Even putting off the write permissions over resolv.conf did not work: it must
> be created every time.
> 
> Does anyone have any experience about a real solution?
> 
> Thanks for any help
> Rodolfo

Install resolvconf

Osamu


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Re: .deb compilation

2008-07-24 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi,

Please do not put your answer before the quoted text (and only quote the
relevant part).  It makes you mail easier to read.

Jerônimo Bezerra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I made apt-src install courier-maildrop. It downloaded 3 files and 1 folder:

> There isn't a config.log or another file that could help me.
> I need to know what was the ./configure line used by maintainer.
>
> Is there another way to find this information?

You can rebuild the package with the same options the maintainer used by
running `debuild' [1].  Otherwise you can take a look at the file
debian/rules, and the `build' target there.

More information about the source layout of Debian packages can be found
for example in the Debian New Maintainer's Guide [2].  I think sections 4.4
and 6 might be of interest to you.

Regards,
Ansgar

[1]  You need to install `devscripts' for this to work.
[2]  http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/

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Re: 2.6.25 kernel and NVIDIA driver

2008-07-24 Thread Geoff Reidy
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Paul Cartwright wrote:
>> pardon me if this was already beat to death, but I was away last
>> week.. Today I booted into my new 2.6.25-2 kernel  and I tried to run
>> my normal NVIDIA...-pkg1.run script. It complained about the XEN
>> kernel and failed. So 
> 
> 
> 
> I can't use the vga= kernel parameter in 2.6.25-2: did you use it?
> 
> What is your kernel command line?
> 
> Hugo
> 
> 


# grep vga /etc/lilo.conf
# can be obtained by booting with  vga=ask  and pressing [Enter].
vga=0x31A

works ok here

and thanks Paul, I hadn't got the new kernel and drivers to go until now.

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Re: .deb compilation

2008-07-24 Thread Jerônimo Bezerra

Hello Mr Eugene, thanks for your answer.

I made apt-src install courier-maildrop. It downloaded 3 files and 1 folder:

drwxr-xr-x 33 root root 4096 2008-07-24 10:58 courier-0.53.3
-rw-r--r--  1 root src122318 2007-02-13 07:02 courier_0.53.3-5.diff.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 root src  1196 2007-02-13 07:02 courier_0.53.3-5.dsc
-rw-r--r--  1 root src  10531155 2006-10-13 10:02 courier_0.53.3.orig.tar.gz

in courier-0.53.3 folder:

# ls -1 config*
config.guess
config.sub
configure
configure.in

There isn't a config.log or another file that could help me.
I need to know what was the ./configure line used by maintainer.

Is there another way to find this information?

Thanks again

Jeronimo



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Hello All,

I need recompile a Debian package and I would like to know how it was
compiled by maintainer. How is it possible? I already tried to talk with
him, but he didn't answer me.

The package is courier-maildrop

Thanks for any advice.

Jeronimo




Use apt-src install, or (longer way) man dpkg-source + man dpkg-buildpackage

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Re: usb2 port gets very slow on 2-gig Flash Drive.

2008-07-24 Thread elijah r.
Correction:

mount -o loop -t msds zenstone2g.img /mnt/zenstoneimg
should read:
mount -o loop -t msdos zenstone2g.img /mnt/zenstoneimg

Material Safety Data Sheets do not play a part here. :-)  You might
also try -t vfat, one of them should work.

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:20 AM, elijah r. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Say your flash disk is /dev/sdc and has 1 FAT partition where the
> music is stored:
>
> cd ~
> dd if=/dev/sdc1 of=zenstone2g.img bs=64M
> mkdir /mnt/zenstoneimg
> mount -o loop -t msds zenstone2g.img /mnt/zenstoneimg
> ---delete anything in /mnt/zenstoneimg/music you don't want -
> cp -R /path/to/my/music/* /mnt/zenstoneimg/music/
> umount /mnt/zenstoneimg
> dd if=zenstone2g.img of=/dev/sdc1 bs=64M
>
> You'd only need to run the commands before "mount" once, then keep the
> image around for the future.
> I don't actually know if this will speed things up, but the idea is
> that you are bypassing the filesystem layer over the USB bottleneck
> for disk writes.
> You make all the filesystem changes to a disk image on your hard disk,
> then you stream the bits in that image to the flash disk.
> The "bs=64M" is the block size and can be increased or decreased
> depending on your situation.  AFAIK, it basically acts like a buffer
> in situations like this.
>
> Be very careful with the syntax of dd; one misplaced character and you
> could wipe your hard disk or flash drive.
>
> Just an idea.  Let me know if it works out.
>
> -Elijah
>
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Martin McCormick
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I needed to reload the flash drive on a Zenstone 2-gig mp3
>> player. I have noticed that when the drive is full, operations
>> all still work, but take much longer than one might expect which
>> probably has something to do with the fat32 file system and size
>> of the FAT table.
>>
>>I started by doing rm -r -f music which is the one and
>> only main directory. That took about 2 hours to complete and
>> then it was time to reload it from the Linux computer.
>>
>>The Linux computer is a 500-MHZ Pentium running a 2.6.5
>> kernel and the usb2 port is, by definition 13 Mb so it is slow,
>> about 10-meg Ethernet slow under normal conditions.
>>
>>What actually happens is much worse. After doing the rm
>> -r -f, I started with an empty drive but the tar program started
>> running very slowly. It takes at times, 10 minutes to load one
>> tune that would normally play in 2 or 3 minutes.
>>
>>Just for fun, I let it plod slowly along and it has been
>> running now for about 36 hours and is 75% complete but what is
>> happening?
>>
>>If I look at the health of the system, it isn't that bad
>> all be it busy.
>>
>> $ uptime
>>
>>  07:21:58 up 2 days, 23:37,  2 users,  load average: 4.00, 4.13, 4.19
>>
>>It is July 24 and ps ax -Olstart shows me that tar has
>> been running a very long time:
>>
>> 22986 Tue Jul 22 23:35:01 2008 D pts/13   00:00:40 tar xf 
>> /home/martin/musicmain.tar
>>
>>I tried renic-ing tar and the usb mass storage daemon
>> which has had no effect, either good or bad.
>>
>>I do remember once that if there is a time lapse of
>> several minutes between the rm -r -f command to wipe the FAT
>> table clean and the tar command that initial performance is much
>> better so there must be a cleanup routine going on somewhere.
>>
>> This is also true if you unmount the drive and remount it empty.
>> I seem to remember that it only took a couple of hours to reload
>> the entire drive when I did things that way.
>>
>> I did a top command and I am either missing something or nothing
>> much is wrong:
>>
>> Tasks:  42 total,   2 running,  40 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
>> Cpu(s):  0.3% us,  0.0% sy,  0.0% ni,  0.0% id, 99.7% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
>> Mem:126424k total,   124572k used, 1852k free, 1604k buffers
>> Swap:   377488k total,0k used,   377488k free,   102308k cached
>>
>>  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
>> 23560 martin16   0  2160 1084 1880 R  0.3  0.9   0:00.03 top
>>1 root  16   0  1492  528 1336 S  0.0  0.4   0:07.26 init
>>2 root  34  19 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:12.13 ksoftirqd/0
>>3 root   5 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 events/0
>>4 root   5 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:04.02 kblockd/0
>>   10 root   7 -10 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 aio/0
>>9 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:22.06 kswapd0
>>   11 root  25   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 jfsIO
>>
>> I plan to let this tar command run its natural course to see
>> what happens, but is there anything I can do with the existing
>> system to optimise the performance?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>> Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK
>> Systems Engineer
>> OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group
>>
>>
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Re: 2.6.25 Issues with IDE (via82xx)

2008-07-24 Thread David Baron
On Thursday 24 July 2008 17:21:56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> > Any one had problems with this?
> >
> > Hal startup finds bad opcode, "busy" and resets IDE killing DMA, 32-bit
> > access, etc. All this can be restored using hdparm afterwards.
> >
> > However, this may be causing other errors on the HD as well.
> >
> > No problems with 2.6.23
>
> Please attach a snippet from dmesg or /var/log/syslog.

This is what follow hald start on bootup. Hal is not mentioned in the log, 
however!

Jul 22 17:58:03 d_baron kernel: hdc: dma_intr: status=0xd0 { Busy }
Jul 22 17:58:03 d_baron kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown
Jul 22 17:58:03 d_baron kernel: hdc: DMA disabled
Jul 22 17:58:03 d_baron kernel: hdd: DMA disabled
Jul 22 17:58:03 d_baron kernel: ide1: reset: success


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Re: How to fix resolv.conf?

2008-07-24 Thread Pavlos Parissis

> When connecting to internet with a certain provider, I have problems with
> browsing.  Then I want to fill the file /etc/resolv.conf with the proper dns
> servers but the file changes automatically during the connection being filled
> with values different from the ones I want.
> 
> Googling around I experimented many possible solutions but none worked
> (e.g. edit the file /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf).
> Even putting off the write permissions over resolv.conf did not work: it must
> be created every time.
> 
> Does anyone have any experience about a real solution?


man resolvconf, should help you out

Cheers,
Pavlos



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How to fix resolv.conf?

2008-07-24 Thread Rodolfo Medina
When connecting to internet with a certain provider, I have problems with
browsing.  Then I want to fill the file /etc/resolv.conf with the proper dns
servers but the file changes automatically during the connection being filled
with values different from the ones I want.

Googling around I experimented many possible solutions but none worked
(e.g. edit the file /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf).
Even putting off the write permissions over resolv.conf did not work: it must
be created every time.

Does anyone have any experience about a real solution?

Thanks for any help
Rodolfo


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Re: .deb compilation

2008-07-24 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
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Jerônimo Bezerra wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> I need recompile a Debian package and I would like to know how it was
> compiled by maintainer. How is it possible? I already tried to talk with
> him, but he didn't answer me.
> 
> The package is courier-maildrop
> 
> Thanks for any advice.
> 
> Jeronimo
> 
> 
Use apt-src install, or (longer way) man dpkg-source + man dpkg-buildpackage

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.deb compilation

2008-07-24 Thread Jerônimo Bezerra

Hello All,

I need recompile a Debian package and I would like to know how it was 
compiled by maintainer. How is it possible? I already tried to talk with 
him, but he didn't answer me.


The package is courier-maildrop

Thanks for any advice.

Jeronimo


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Re: networking crash suddenly in my home LAN

2008-07-24 Thread Csanyi Pal
Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 09:52:22AM +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:
>> Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 08:02:58PM +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:
>> >> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> [snip]
>> This is working from gateway. I'm trying it from LAN behind the
>> gateway/firewall, from desktop machine.
>
> If this is working from the gateway then I would presume that the
> problem is at the gateway, for you local LAN clients, all their traffic
> has to go through the gateway
>
>> tcpdump now shows traffic, when I ping www.google.com from desktop
>> machine.
>> 
>> I run on gateway command:
>> sudo tcpdump -pni eth2 port 53 or host 62.108.117.6
>> 
>> listening on eth2, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes
>> 09:42:10.158205 IP 91.102.227.98.46197 > 62.108.117.6.53:  1661+ A?
>> www.google.com. (32)
>> 09:42:15.153786 IP 91.102.227.98.50360 > 213.244.255.2.53:  1661+ A?
>> www.google.com. (32)

> I presume 91.102.227.98 is your public Internet address (eth2 on the
> gateway), you don't see any return packets, which is strange ?  If you
> do the same test on the gateway you see the return packets ?

I did the same test on the gateway and tcpdump give to me these lines: 

12:37:08.773167 IP 62.108.117.6.53 > 91.102.231.33.1028:  26739 1/4/0(151)
12:37:09.752199 IP 91.102.231.33.1028 > 62.108.117.6.53:  41421+ PTR?
103.91.249.66.in-addr.arpa. (44)
12:37:09.769013 IP 62.108.117.6.53 > 91.102.231.33.1028:  41421 1/4/0(151)
12:37:10.743902 IP 91.102.231.33.1028 > 62.108.117.6.53:  52686+ PTR?
103.91.249.66.in-addr.arpa. (44)

Now we can see the return packets, right?


> can you supply the output of
>
> ip a (shows your ip address)
> ip r (shows the routing information)
> iptables -nvL -t nat (show the iptables / firewall information for
> natting)

>From the gateway I give the commands:
ip a


1: lo:  mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0:  mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen
1000
link/ether 00:e0:7d:fc:1a:b2 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 192.168.1.1/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global eth0
inet6 fe80::2e0:7dff:fefc:1ab2/64 scope link
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
3: eth1:  mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen
1000
link/ether 00:e0:7d:fc:1a:b0 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 192.168.2.1/24 brd 192.168.2.255 scope global eth1
inet6 fe80::2e0:7dff:fefc:1ab0/64 scope link
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
4: eth2:  mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen
1000
link/ether 00:14:04:31:19:9f brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 91.102.231.33/28 brd 91.102.231.47 scope global eth2
inet6 fe80::214:4ff:fe31:199f/64 scope link
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
5: sit0:  mtu 1480 qdisc noop
link/sit 0.0.0.0 brd 0.0.0.0

eth2 is my interface to the internet providers server.
I have a public IP address given to my by my ISP, but this IP address
should to be: 91.102.227.98 and not the abowe shown
91.102.231.33. Mybe ISP changed my public IP address? I shall to ask
him. 

ip r


91.102.231.32/28 dev eth2  proto kernel  scope link  src 91.102.231.33
192.168.2.0/24 dev eth1  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.2.1
192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.1.1
default via 91.102.231.46 dev eth2

sudo iptables -nvL -t nat
-



iptables-firewall_natting_info
Description: natting info


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Making Kmail attachments available to OOo

2008-07-24 Thread andy

Hello

On my wife's Etch machine, running KDE, she is experiencing a problem 
opening attachments with OOo (any component - writer, impress, calc, 
etc.) once they have been in her inbox for a while. I *think* that what 
is happening is that Kmail stores these in .kde/tmp (not the correct 
path) and for whatever reason OOo is just not searching there to open 
the attachments. Instead, it throws an error message that  
does not exist (or cannot be found - sorry I am doing this from memory).


How do I go about fixing this and ensuring that the directory Kmail uses 
to store attachments is in OOo's search path?


Thanks

Andy


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Re: directory to deb

2008-07-24 Thread NN_il_Confusionario
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 03:26:37AM +, T o n g wrote:
> I have a second thought, since checkinstall accept any install command,
> can I do 
> 
>   checkinstall rsync -vua . /
> 
> from the directory that I prepared to create a .deb file?

if the command 

rsync -vua . /

is really what you want to do, then instead give a look to
dh_builddeb
and/or other dh_* commands

My script instead was for an _alredy installed_ package, for example 
when you as user do a 
./configure --prefix=/usr/local/NN/packagename-version/;make;make install
(where /usr/local/NN/packagename-version is a pre-existing directory owened 
by the user). Sorry for having misunderstood your problem.

Also, give a look at ckeckinstall (really, installwatch) bugs; for
example be SURE that your installation does not modify /etc/passwd or
any other (inportant) file which exists before the installation.

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Re: networking crash suddenly in my home LAN

2008-07-24 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
The Thursday 24 July 2008 10:47:23 Thomas Preud'homme, you wrote :
> > This is working from gateway. I'm trying it from LAN behind the
> > gateway/firewall, from desktop machine.


Sorry I missed this sentence. Forget what I said


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Re: Cron jobs and root account locked on Lenny

2008-07-24 Thread Thilo Six
Alexander Fortin wrote the following on 24.07.2008 10:03



> Yep, using usermod instead of passwd seems to work fine!
> So, to report a bug or not to? Which mailing list?

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=389183

> Alex


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Re: networking crash suddenly in my home LAN

2008-07-24 Thread Alex Samad
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 09:52:22AM +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:
> Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 08:02:58PM +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:
> >> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[snip]

> 
> This is working from gateway. I'm trying it from LAN behind the
> gateway/firewall, from desktop machine.

If this is working from the gateway then I would presume that the
problem is at the gateway, for you local LAN clients, all their traffic
has to go through the gateway


> 
> tcpdump now shows traffic, when I ping www.google.com from desktop
> machine.
> 
> I run on gateway command:
> sudo tcpdump -pni eth2 port 53 or host 62.108.117.6
> 
> listening on eth2, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes
> 09:42:10.158205 IP 91.102.227.98.46197 > 62.108.117.6.53:  1661+ A?
> www.google.com. (32)
> 09:42:15.153786 IP 91.102.227.98.50360 > 213.244.255.2.53:  1661+ A?
> www.google.com. (32)
> 09:42:20.153200 IP 91.102.227.98.46197 > 62.108.117.6.53:  1661+ A?
> www.google.com. (32)
> 09:42:25.152719 IP 91.102.227.98.50360 > 213.244.255.2.53:  1661+ A?
> www.google.com. (32)
> 
> 4 packets captured
> 4 packets received by filter
> 0 packets dropped by kernel
> 

I presume 91.102.227.98 is your public Internet address (eth2 on the
gateway), you don't see any return packets, which is strange ?  If you
do the same test on the gateway you see the return packets ?


> but I get error message on the command line on desktop (LAN):
> $ ping www.google.com
> ping: unknown host www.google.com
> 
> tcpdump now shows traffic, when I 'ping 62.108.117.6' from desktop
> machine. 
> 
> I run the command on gateway:
> sudo tcpdump -pni eth2
> 
> 09:46:56.951551 IP 91.102.227.98 > 62.108.117.6: ICMP echo request, id
> 63003, seq 10, length 64
> 09:46:57.083584 IP 91.102.227.98.50927 > 213.244.255.2.53:
> 58759+[|domain]
> 09:46:57.951463 IP 91.102.227.98 > 62.108.117.6: ICMP echo request, id
> 63003, seq 11, length 64
> 09:46:58.951366 IP 91.102.227.98 > 62.108.117.6: ICMP echo request, id
> 63003, seq 12, length 64

again no return packets

> 
> but at the command line on desktop machine I get nothing:
> 
> $ ping 62.108.117.6
> PING 62.108.117.6 (62.108.117.6) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 
> Then I cancel it with Ctrl-C:
> 
> --- 62.108.117.6 ping statistics ---
> 13 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 12008ms 
> 
> Well, I think that that something is wrong in my network setup, but
> what? 


can you supply the output of

ip a (shows your ip address)
ip r (shows the routing information)
iptables -nvL -t nat (show the iptables / firewall information for
natting)



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Re: before I could ping, now I can't

2008-07-24 Thread Chris Davies
Vwaju <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here are the contents of etc/network/interfaces:
> [...]
> 15  auto-eth0

Should be "auto eth0" rather than "auto-eth0". Fix that and try the
"ifup eth0" again.

Chris


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Re: Greetings and question

2008-07-24 Thread Mumia W..

On 07/23/2008 06:37 PM, Juan Ignacio wrote:

Hi [...]


Hi Juan.

Why isn't [gtk-qt-engine] in the 
repositories? I want this package because Firefox looks so awful.

[...]


Others showed you how to grab gtk-qt-engine from Sid. However, it's much 
less risky to just install a theme into Firefox. Almost any theme will 
look better than the default (system theme).





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Re: networking crash suddenly in my home LAN

2008-07-24 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
The Thursday 24 July 2008 09:52:22 Csanyi Pal, you wrote :
> Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 08:02:58PM +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:
> >> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 02:35:31PM +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:
> >> >> Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> >> > On Wed,23.Jul.08, 13:31:13, Csányi Pál wrote:
> >> >> >> I have at home a small LAN with Debian GNU/Linux Etch boxes.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> >> > /sbin/route
> >> >
> >> > when executed on the gateway machine.
> >>
> >> Kernel IP routing table
> >> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use
> >> Iface 91.102.231.32   *   255.255.255.240 U 0  0   0
> >>   eth2 192.168.2.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  0  
> >> 0   eth1 192.168.1.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  0 
> >>  0   eth0 default 46-231-102-91.r 0.0.0.0 UG0  0
> >>   0   eth2
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > looking at your route table I would suggest something like
> >
> > tcpduump -pni eth2 port 53 or host  > the first one in the resolv.conf file>
> >
> > this will show you all the packets leaving via eth2 that are on port 53
> > (dns) or are destined or have come from you isp's dns server.
> >
> > if this is working from the gateway, try it from one of the remote
> > machines, the tcpdump should be still run on the gateway machine
>
> This is working from gateway. I'm trying it from LAN behind the
> gateway/firewall, from desktop machine.
>
> tcpdump now shows traffic, when I ping www.google.com from desktop
> machine.
>
> I run on gateway command:
> sudo tcpdump -pni eth2 port 53 or host 62.108.117.6
>
> listening on eth2, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes
> 09:42:10.158205 IP 91.102.227.98.46197 > 62.108.117.6.53:  1661+ A?
> www.google.com. (32)
> 09:42:15.153786 IP 91.102.227.98.50360 > 213.244.255.2.53:  1661+ A?
> www.google.com. (32)
> 09:42:20.153200 IP 91.102.227.98.46197 > 62.108.117.6.53:  1661+ A?
> www.google.com. (32)
> 09:42:25.152719 IP 91.102.227.98.50360 > 213.244.255.2.53:  1661+ A?
> www.google.com. (32)
>
> 4 packets captured
> 4 packets received by filter
> 0 packets dropped by kernel
>
> but I get error message on the command line on desktop (LAN):
> $ ping www.google.com
> ping: unknown host www.google.com
>
> tcpdump now shows traffic, when I 'ping 62.108.117.6' from desktop
> machine.
>
> I run the command on gateway:
> sudo tcpdump -pni eth2
>
> 09:46:56.951551 IP 91.102.227.98 > 62.108.117.6: ICMP echo request, id
> 63003, seq 10, length 64
> 09:46:57.083584 IP 91.102.227.98.50927 > 213.244.255.2.53:
> 58759+[|domain]
> 09:46:57.951463 IP 91.102.227.98 > 62.108.117.6: ICMP echo request, id
> 63003, seq 11, length 64
> 09:46:58.951366 IP 91.102.227.98 > 62.108.117.6: ICMP echo request, id
> 63003, seq 12, length 64
>
> but at the command line on desktop machine I get nothing:
>
> $ ping 62.108.117.6
> PING 62.108.117.6 (62.108.117.6) 56(84) bytes of data.
>
> Then I cancel it with Ctrl-C:
>
> --- 62.108.117.6 ping statistics ---
> 13 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 12008ms
>
> Well, I think that that something is wrong in my network setup, but
> what?
>
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When you do a dhclient you get the IP address of the DHCP server which offer 
you your IP. Could you try a ping on this address and if it works on the DNS 
address you get in /etc/resolv.conf ?


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Re: Greetings and question

2008-07-24 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
The Thursday 24 July 2008 01:37:16 Juan Ignacio, you wrote :
> Hi I'm new here, I've been using Ubuntu, but the last edition hardy
> it's too bugged in my opinion, so I changed to Debian. I installed it
> from the netinstall cd. And I must say it so fast and stable.
>
> Well here is the question, I used apt-get install gtk-qt-engine and it
> says that the package couldn't be found. Why isn't the package in the
> repositories? I want this package because Firefox looks so awful.
>
> My regards
>
> PD: Sorry for my English, I'm from Argentina
>
> --
> Juan Ignacio Villarejo


http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gtk-qt-engine.html

It should be available in 7 days but we are in the freezing phase for the next 
Debian stable so maybe you'll have to wait more. I think it's just libraries 
which are getting frozen now so it should be good.


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Re: Cron jobs and root account locked on Lenny

2008-07-24 Thread Alexander Fortin
On Jul 23, 6:50 pm, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I partially agree with the useless of the feauture, but Debian
> > installer is asking if you want to allow root login or not, so I'm
>
> Only in expert mode ;)

Uhm... well I always find difficult to define what a (Debian)
expert need to know to be called so... Anyway, can you manually
partition disks with raid and lvm stuff when you are not in expert
mode? 'Cause actually it's the only "expert" thing I need to do at
install time :D

> I'm not an expert, but a quick read through passwd(1) says account
> expiry should be set to '1', while your 'passwd -S' shows '-1', just
> like a normal account.
>
> How about trying to lock it again?

Lock-unlock doesn't work

On Jul 23, 8:10 pm, Sven Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A comment in that bug suggests using "usermod --lock root" to lock the
> root account, that does seem to work.

Yep, using usermod instead of passwd seems to work fine!
So, to report a bug or not to? Which mailing list?

Alex


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Re: The (New?) xorg configuration system

2008-07-24 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
On 2008-07-23 20:06, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> All ready covered two emails ago.
>>> In a word, Yes.

Oooops, sorry for not reading the thread careful enough.

> Notice I said ADVANCED options?  I find killing the touchpad while
> typing while still using the alt and ctrl keys with out killing the
> touchpad a useful feature as is circular scrolling.
> 
> Once you KNOW to look under xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (really
> intuitive, that, it should just be /usr/share/doc/synaptics, how are
> you supposed to know to look for xserver-xorg-input-synaptics?)

$ aptitude search synaptics
i   gsynaptics  - configuration tool for Synaptics
touchpad
p   libsynaptics-dev- library to access the synaptics
touch pad
p   libsynaptics0   - library to access the synaptics
touch pad
p   xfree86-driver-synaptics- dummy package to upgrade to X.Org
new mod
v   xorg-driver-synaptics   -
i A xserver-xorg-input-synaptics- Synaptics TouchPad driver for
X.Org/XFree

gives you the hint.

gsynaptics, by the way, is a graphical configuration tool to configure
the touchpad 'on the fly'. I don't know if it can be used to disable the
touchpad while typing thing, but you already found a solution.

Another handy tool I use is unclutter, which hides the mouse curser
after some time, so it doesn't get into the way while you're just reading.

HTH,

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Re: networking crash suddenly in my home LAN

2008-07-24 Thread Csanyi Pal
Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 08:02:58PM +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:
>> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 02:35:31PM +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:
>> >> Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >> 
>> >> > On Wed,23.Jul.08, 13:31:13, Csányi Pál wrote:
>> >> >> I have at home a small LAN with Debian GNU/Linux Etch boxes.
>> >> >> 
> [snip]
>
>> > /sbin/route
>> >
>> > when executed on the gateway machine. 
>> 
>> Kernel IP routing table
>> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
>> 91.102.231.32   *   255.255.255.240 U 0  0   0   eth2
>> 192.168.2.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  0   0   eth1
>> 192.168.1.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  0   0   eth0
>> default 46-231-102-91.r 0.0.0.0 UG0  0   0   eth2
> [snip]

> looking at your route table I would suggest something like
>
> tcpduump -pni eth2 port 53 or host  the first one in the resolv.conf file>
>
> this will show you all the packets leaving via eth2 that are on port 53
> (dns) or are destined or have come from you isp's dns server.
>
> if this is working from the gateway, try it from one of the remote
> machines, the tcpdump should be still run on the gateway machine

This is working from gateway. I'm trying it from LAN behind the
gateway/firewall, from desktop machine.

tcpdump now shows traffic, when I ping www.google.com from desktop
machine.

I run on gateway command:
sudo tcpdump -pni eth2 port 53 or host 62.108.117.6

listening on eth2, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes
09:42:10.158205 IP 91.102.227.98.46197 > 62.108.117.6.53:  1661+ A?
www.google.com. (32)
09:42:15.153786 IP 91.102.227.98.50360 > 213.244.255.2.53:  1661+ A?
www.google.com. (32)
09:42:20.153200 IP 91.102.227.98.46197 > 62.108.117.6.53:  1661+ A?
www.google.com. (32)
09:42:25.152719 IP 91.102.227.98.50360 > 213.244.255.2.53:  1661+ A?
www.google.com. (32)

4 packets captured
4 packets received by filter
0 packets dropped by kernel

but I get error message on the command line on desktop (LAN):
$ ping www.google.com
ping: unknown host www.google.com

tcpdump now shows traffic, when I 'ping 62.108.117.6' from desktop
machine. 

I run the command on gateway:
sudo tcpdump -pni eth2

09:46:56.951551 IP 91.102.227.98 > 62.108.117.6: ICMP echo request, id
63003, seq 10, length 64
09:46:57.083584 IP 91.102.227.98.50927 > 213.244.255.2.53:
58759+[|domain]
09:46:57.951463 IP 91.102.227.98 > 62.108.117.6: ICMP echo request, id
63003, seq 11, length 64
09:46:58.951366 IP 91.102.227.98 > 62.108.117.6: ICMP echo request, id
63003, seq 12, length 64

but at the command line on desktop machine I get nothing:

$ ping 62.108.117.6
PING 62.108.117.6 (62.108.117.6) 56(84) bytes of data.

Then I cancel it with Ctrl-C:

--- 62.108.117.6 ping statistics ---
13 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 12008ms 

Well, I think that that something is wrong in my network setup, but
what? 

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Re: apt-get new package management capability

2008-07-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,24.Jul.08, 04:03:17, T o n g wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> I remember seeing that apt-get can do orphan packages automatic removal
> now. Does it need special setup? 
> 
> Package installed in my long-overhauled Debian was by debfoster, then
> aptitude. Can I just use apt-get for automatic packages clean up now?
> How can I transfer the "knowledge" from debfoster/aptitude to apt?
> 
> Can anyone show me steps in managing package only by apt-get, or
> point me to the right web page? 
 
aptitude is the recommended package manager, why do you want to switch 
to apt-get?

Anyway, the logic for auto-installed packages has moved from aptitude to 
libapt so all package managers can take advantage of it. If you run 
lenny or sid (you didn't say) all you have to do is run
'apt-get autoremove'.  AFAIR apt-get will tell you when there are 
packages to be autoremoved.

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Re: Greetings and question

2008-07-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,24.Jul.08, 00:59:13, Juan Ignacio wrote:

> Sorry I didn't say that I'm using debian lenny. Is there a problem if I
> install a package from another version?

Yes and no. We usually advise against it, but with lenny you sometimes 
have to. Put a line with

APT::Default-Release "testing";

in /etc/apt/apt.conf. If the file doesn't exist you will have to create 
it. "lenny" instead of "testing" won't work (unless the bug has been 
fixed) so will have to take care when lenny gets released. Add a source 
for sid and try to install that package with

apt-get install -t your-sid-package

If it doesn't pull any or just a few packages it *should* be pretty 
safe, but if it breaks you get to keep both pieces ;)

There is also a page somewhere that tells you why (and how long it 
should take) the package is not in testing. Maybe you want to wait for a 
few days?

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Re: before I could ping, now I can't

2008-07-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed,23.Jul.08, 17:51:02, Vwaju wrote:

> 13  #I added the following lines (following Linux System Admin p. 13)
> 14  #netmask and network are guesses, because ISP RCN won't give info
> 15  auto-eth0
> 16  iface eth0 inet static
> 17address 207.237.37.110
> 18netmask 255.255.255.0
> 19network 207.237.37.0
> 
> ifup eth0 reports:
> 
> /etc/network/interfaces:15: option with empty value
> ifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces"

Is this the entire file or did you omit something?

> Because RCN has refused to give me the network IP address, netmask,
> and gateway, I expect trouble configuring the interface.  Any advice
> you have about this is welcome.
 
How are you supposed to configure it then, via DHCP? The netmask and 
network options are not mandatory, but without a gateway...
You could try 207.237.37.1 or .254 for gateway. How did you get it to 
work before?

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