Re: Faille du noyau Linux
Le Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:44:03 +0100, tv.deb...@googlemail.com a écrit: Amicalement David Si le seul indicateur de la valeur /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr suffit à déterminer si un noyau est affecté, alors un noyau compilé depuis les sources vanilla n'est pas touché à moins d'avoir volontairement changé la valeur par défaut : cat /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr 4096 Par contre plusieurs distributions semblent utiliser une valeur de 0 (zéro) pour des raisons de compatibilité avec certains programmes, et Debian comme RedHat semble en faire partie. Je n'ai pas de noyau Debian officiel sous la main pour tester, mais les liens donnés suggèrent que c'est le cas... J'ai le noyau officiel de Debian: 2.6.30-2-686 #1 SMP Sat Sep 26 01:16:22 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux Et cat /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr 4096 -- px -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Pilote carte réseau (Realtek RT L 8168D / 8111D Family PCI-E GBE NIC) sous Debian Lenny
On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 10:42:24AM +0100, Samy Mezani wrote: [...] Salut, Tu peux aussi passer au noyau 2.6.29 grâce au dépôt backports Lenny ; ça t'éviterais une compil ou des manip fastidieuses. Comme tu veux. Juste pour info, il y a même le 2.6.30 dans les bakports. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Faille du noyau Linux
maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit, le 05/11/09 à 13:40 : Bonjour Faille locale dans les fonctions pipe_*_open() du noyau Linux Lenny serait affecté Source : http://linuxfr.org/2009/11/05/26120.html cat /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr la valeur de mmap_min_addr ne doit pas être nulle Chez moi le noyau 2.6.31.5 n'est pas touché. M Bonjour, il semble qu'il suffise désormais de mettre à jour sa Debian Lenny pour ne plus subir ce trou de sécurité (annonce DSA 1927-1). Cordialement, -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Faille du noyau Linux
Allaedine El Banna a écrit, le 05.11.2009 21:11 : il semble qu'il suffise désormais de mettre à jour sa Debian Lenny pour ne plus subir ce trou de sécurité (annonce DSA 1927-1). Bonsoir, sur une Lenny mise à jour ce soir avec 2.6.26-19lenny2 après un reboot cat /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr donnait toujours 0 J'ai donc dû (cf http://wiki.debian.org/mmap_min_addr) # echo vm.mmap_min_addr = 4096 /etc/sysctl.d/mmap_min_addr.conf # /etc/init.d/procps restart pour avoir 4096 Cordialement hého -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Recherche spécialiste Debian
Hello ! Je recherche, dans le cadre d'un projet à forte valeur commerciale, un spécialiste Debian. Mais plutot du coté développement qu'administration pur. En effet, je cherche qqun qui serait capable de développer un X spécifique, pour un projet dans le domaine du médical. Pour résumer, on a un pc Debian embarqué, qui s'occupe de gérer la machine, au niveau hardware (programme C++ qui dirige et gère de multiples modules). Et on à besoin d'une interface utilisateur. Jusqu'a maintenant, on avait pensé mettre un win 7 (beuuurk...) avec un programme développé en C# qui faisait la liaison entre l'utilisateur et la machine. Mais afin de rationaliser les couts, on pense de plus en plus à n'utiliser qu'une seule machine pour les 2 applis... Donc il faudrait une version de X customisée et optimisée. Ce que j'entends par la? Uniquement le stricte nécessaire (lancement de l'appli HMI C++/QT+, gestion du réseau, gestion des imprimantes 100% optimisée, et... Ben rien d'autre!). Alors, je pourrais partir sur un Xfce, et le limiter... Mais je me demandais: pourquoi ne pas partir de Rien, et faire développer notre propre X, totalement optimisé! L'idée, je cherche donc un ou plusieurs dev, afin de: - développer cette interface - aider au packadgage des 2 applis, au format .deb - servir de consultant externe durant le dev du projet. Connaissez vous quelqu'un qui aurait un tel profil? On recherche réellement un crack/barbus. Dans ce projet, un simple amateur/passionné, tel que moi, ne suffit plus, malheureusement. je préfère donc me concentrer sur le reste du projet, plutot que de passer mes 365 prochaines nuits la dessus :(. Si ca intéresse qqun, et qu'il souhaiterais en discuter, etc... Qu'il hésite pas à me contacter en pv ;). Je dois encore faire valider ce choix technologiques (dure dure de faire comprendre qu'il y a des alternative a Windows, meme quand il s'agit d'interface utilisateurs :p), mais y a moyen de bosser sur un excellent projet ;) Merci de l'attention :p. Et cette fois, je vais vraiment aller dodo! Olivier Tutoriaux + divers infos: http://www.olivierlange.com/ -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenteur du protocole SFTP
Le 14553ième jour après Epoch, Sylvain Sauvage écrivait: Adrien, mercredi 4 novembre 2009, 23:44:19 CET Goldy wrote: Bonjour, Bonsoir, ’jour, La vitesse du transfert ne dépasse pas (selon nautilus) 1,5 Mo/s Ici entre deux portables récents sous Debian testing je suis autour de 7 Mo/s (avec dolphin sous KDE 4). Mais par contre avec une machine plus vieille j'étais limité autour de 1,5 ou 2 Mo/s aussi… à voir si le goulot d'étranglement n'est pas le processeur ou la lecture sur le disque ? Les deux mon général... Un transfert crypté sur une machine qui crypte pas vite, c'est normal que ce soit long. Compare des transferts non cryptés, pour être sûr. Et la différence entre un pigeon ? Euh... Il a les deux pattes de la même longueur, surtout la gauche ? J'ai bon ? :) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Faille du noyau Linux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hého a écrit : Allaedine El Banna a écrit, le 05.11.2009 21:11 : il semble qu'il suffise désormais de mettre à jour sa Debian Lenny pour ne plus subir ce trou de sécurité (annonce DSA 1927-1). Non : comme c'est écrit en début de DSA : ce sera pour 5.0.4, et il y a un lien pour combler la faille localement... - -- Debian Security Advisory DSA-1927-1secur...@debian.org http://www.debian.org/security/ dann frazier November 5, 2009http://www.debian.org/security/faq - -- Package: linux-2.6 Vulnerability : privilege escalation/denial of service/sensitive memory leak Problem type : local Debian-specific: no CVE Id(s) : CVE-2009-3228 CVE-2009-3238 CVE-2009-3547 CVE-2009-3612 CVE-2009-3620 CVE-2009-3621 CVE-2009-3638 Notice: Debian 5.0.4, the next point release of Debian 'lenny', will include a new default value for the mmap_min_addr tunable. This change will add an additional safeguard against a class of security vulnerabilities known as NULL pointer dereference vulnerabilities, but it will need to be overridden when using certain applications. Additional information about this change, including instructions for making this change locally in advance of 5.0.4 (recommended), can be found at: http://wiki.debian.org/mmap_min_addr [...] Amicalement David -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkrzXHgACgkQ18/WetbTC/rtaQCeJa5R9DuKKO0eDoV4pHJSyVmh EdcAniMPwnvYVuAA0ktf1rWmbXCnOGbo =eb6/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Recherche spécialiste Debian
Le 6 novembre 2009 00:10, Olivier Lange olang...@gmail.com a écrit : Alors, je pourrais partir sur un Xfce, et le limiter... Mais je me demandais: pourquoi ne pas partir de Rien, et faire développer notre propre X, totalement optimisé! A mon avis tu t'exposes à un tas de problème alors que la réutilisation de l'existant (et de l'historique) serait surement plus rapide et plus fiable. Il te suffirait par exemple de mettre awesome (avec ca dès le départ il n'y a presque rien donc pas de limitation à faire) et ensuite tu créé une ihm dans le langage que tu préfères et cette solution ne sera pas très gourmande. -- Kévin Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org http://identi.ca/khi - http://twitter.com/kh_i - http://system-linux.eu Nick IRC : khi sur irc.mozilla.org - irc.debian.org - irc.freenode.net -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Recherche spécialiste Debian
Le 6 novembre 2009 00:27, Kevin Hinault hina...@gmail.com a écrit : Le 6 novembre 2009 00:10, Olivier Lange olang...@gmail.com a écrit : Alors, je pourrais partir sur un Xfce, et le limiter... Mais je me demandais: pourquoi ne pas partir de Rien, et faire développer notre propre X, totalement optimisé! A mon avis tu t'exposes à un tas de problème alors que la réutilisation de l'existant (et de l'historique) serait surement plus rapide et plus fiable. Il te suffirait par exemple de mettre awesome (avec ca dès le départ il n'y a presque rien donc pas de limitation à faire) et ensuite tu créé une ihm dans le langage que tu préfères et cette solution ne sera pas très gourmande. Ouaip, j'y ai également songé... C'est ma seconde solution... Un petit awesome pour gérer cela, et scripter mes lancements de programme, etc... Bref, pour le moment, tout es ouvert... Egalement à une optimisation d'Awesome (pour y ajouter la gestion des imprimantes à la ubuntu like. Mais peut être que ca existe déja? Je me suis arréter à la version 2 d'Awesome, j'avoue...). Bref, la réutilisation, c'est également possible, et n'empèche pas que si y a un expert dans le coin... -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Faille du noyau Linux
David Prévot a écrit, le 06.11.2009 00:15 : Non : comme c'est écrit en début de DSA : ce sera pour 5.0.4, et il y a un lien pour combler la faille localement... - -- Debian Security Advisory DSA-1927-1secur...@debian.org Package: linux-2.6 Vulnerability : privilege escalation/denial of service/sensitive memory [...] Notice: Debian 5.0.4, the next point release of Debian 'lenny', will include a new default value for the mmap_min_addr tunable. [...] Additional information about this change, including instructions for making this change locally in advance of 5.0.4 (recommended), can be found at: http://wiki.debian.org/mmap_min_addr Merci, je n'avais pas lu la DSA-1927-1 et pas compris la référence à 5.0.4 évoqué également dans le wiki. Juste vu que dans le changelog du 2.6.26-19lenny2 il n'y avait rien concernant mmap_min_addr Cordialement hého -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Nietypowy problem z d źwiękiem
On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 07:46:46PM +0100, Robert Górajski wrote: Hmm to ja szukam pomocy :), ale może podpowiem Tobie pakiet gnome-audio masz zainstalowany ? Nie, ale próbowałem podpiąć istniejące pliki wav, i też nie było nic słychać. Tyle że mnie na tym nie zależy, żeby mi plumkało coś co chwilę :) -- Marcin Owsiany porri...@debian.org http://marcin.owsiany.pl/ GnuPG: 1024D/60F41216 FE67 DA2D 0ACA FC5E 3F75 D6F6 3A0D 8AA0 60F4 1216 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-polish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Nietypowy problem z dźwiękiem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hmm to ja szukam pomocy :), ale może podpowiem Tobie pakiet gnome-audio masz zainstalowany ? Pozdrawiam - Robert Górajski (RGR) Jabber: robert.goraj...@jabber.org GG: 6402203 - GPG/PGP ID: CBDF19BE Marcin Owsiany pisze: On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 07:03:10PM +0100, Robert Górajski wrote: Tak, jest to Gnome (zapomniałem dopisać), i jak już pisałem oczywiste miejsca sprawdziłem czyli System-Preferencje-Dźwięk w pierwszej kolejności Hm, prawdę mówiąc to właśnie próbowałem tam poklikać u siebie i też mi nie działa :) teraz zastanawiam się gdzie spojrzeć w te mniej oczywiste ? Poza tym okienkiem preferencji nic nie przychodzi mi do głowy. Czy teraz lepiej z moim kodowaniem ósma, już, szczęsny, cząber Tak, jest OK. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkrzHY4ACgkQcCeB9svfGb7ShACg40NSUPRbqKCAZV9+0U4eqBGv 6ScAoK0mMjOAvndUrd8MZsqNd7ulPHhn =KfaS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-polish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
RE: Comparacion de debian y ubuntu .OT
Muy objetivo tu comentario. Sin apasionamiento por debian y con los puntos claros.. Muy bien. *---* *-Edwin Quijada *-Developer DataBase *-JQ Microsistemas *-Soporte PostgreSQL *-www.jqmicrosistemas.com *-809-849-8087 *---* Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:35:09 -0300 Subject: Re: Comparacion de debian y ubuntu .OT From: carug...@gmail.com To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org La diferencia a nivel ideologico es que para Debian la prioridad es crear un sistema que sea lo mas estable posible, aunque eso implique no tener una fecha prefijada de publicacion. Para Ubuntu la prioridad es crear un sistema que pueda ser utilizado por un publico mas vasto, no tan tecnico, aunque eso implique tener un sistema con mas errores. Ubuntu usa los paquetes de Debian, pero agrega algunas herramientas o configuraciones propias para poder ofrecer un sistema 'sin costuras' al usuario. O al menos a eso se apunta. Ubuntu suele ser mas lenta que Debian porque levanta muchos mas servicios, a fin de dar mas funcionalidad al escritorio. Creo que con las sucesivas versiones Ubuntu va mejorando su calidad. Recuerdo que las primeras versiones eran muy inestables. Ayer me instale la nueva 9.10 y la verdad es que no he tenido ningun problema. Yo creo que para el usuario comun, con hardware decente, Ubuntu es hoy por hoy la distribucion mas recomendable. Y aunque tecnicamente Debian sea mejor que Ubuntu, tambien es cierto que Ubuntu ha generado una masa de usuarios mucho mas importante que la que ha generado Debian, y esto redunda en mas desarrollo de software libre, de lo cual Gnome se esta beneficiando particularmente. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org _
Re: Comparacion de debian y ubuntu .OT
El jue, 05-11-2009 a las 14:35 -0300, Mario Daniel Carugno escribió: La diferencia a nivel ideologico es que para Debian la prioridad es crear un sistema que sea lo mas estable posible, aunque eso implique no tener una fecha prefijada de publicacion. Para Ubuntu la prioridad es crear un sistema que pueda ser utilizado por un publico mas vasto, no tan tecnico, aunque eso implique tener un sistema con mas errores. Ubuntu usa los paquetes de Debian, pero agrega algunas herramientas o configuraciones propias para poder ofrecer un sistema 'sin costuras' al usuario. O al menos a eso se apunta. Ubuntu suele ser mas lenta que Debian porque levanta muchos mas servicios, a fin de dar mas funcionalidad al escritorio. Creo que con las sucesivas versiones Ubuntu va mejorando su calidad. Recuerdo que las primeras versiones eran muy inestables. Ayer me instale la nueva 9.10 y la verdad es que no he tenido ningun problema. Yo creo que para el usuario comun, con hardware decente, Ubuntu es hoy por hoy la distribucion mas recomendable. Y aunque tecnicamente Debian sea mejor que Ubuntu, tambien es cierto que Ubuntu ha generado una masa de usuarios mucho mas importante que la que ha generado Debian, y esto redunda en mas desarrollo de software libre, de lo cual Gnome se esta beneficiando particularmente. A mi la tarjeta de video Via Integrada que es famosa por lo mala con Debian Lenny me anda de las mil maravillas. Con Ubuntu 9.04 me funcionaba bastante más mal. No sé si habrán mejorado eso en el 9.10. Pero también hice una comparación de cuánto me demoraba en traspasar unos archivos grandes a un pendrive. En Debian Lenny me demoré 6 veces menos que en Ubuntu 9.04. El 9.10 no lo conozco. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: ldap + zimbra
Andres Gonzalez escribió: 2009/11/4 Carlos Eduardo Velásquez Chaves debianl...@cuna.ac.cr mailto:debianl...@cuna.ac.cr Hola a todos, en nuestro trabajo tenemos instalado un server Debian Lenny con Zimbra, y por lo que conozco, zimbra maneja sus propios paquetes para dar el servicio que da, como postfix, mysql, ldap. Mi pregunta es la siguiente: ¿Como hago para respaldar las cuentas de los usuarios que maneja en ldap, asi como sus password? He investigado sobre esto y lo mas que he llegado a hacer es instalar lam (Ldap Administrator Manager) este es via web, pero para levantarlo no encuentra el servicio de ldap arriba, claro si zimbra lo maneja internamente. Alguna ayuda? Saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org mailto:debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org mailto:listmas...@lists.debian.org Quizas esto te sirva: http://www.swedcore.net/?p=17 Excelente Andrés, Es justamente lo que ocupo, ese script hace un respaldo full o diferencial tanto del sistema como de los mensajes. También vi que crea el respaldo en la carpeta /opt/backup en un archivo .tar.gz este archivo contiene todas las carpetas tanto de configuración de zimbra como la de las BD de Ldap y Mysql Si quiere hacer un restore de eso, solamente descomprimo ese archivo tar.gz en la carpeta /opt/zimbra? Es así? Saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Comparacion de debian y ubuntu .OT
Mario Daniel Carugno escribió: La diferencia a nivel ideologico es que para Debian la prioridad es crear un sistema que sea lo mas estable posible, aunque eso implique no tener una fecha prefijada de publicacion. Para Ubuntu la prioridad es crear un sistema que pueda ser utilizado por un publico mas vasto, no tan tecnico, aunque eso implique tener un sistema con mas errores. Ubuntu usa los paquetes de Debian, pero agrega algunas herramientas o configuraciones propias para poder ofrecer un sistema 'sin costuras' al usuario. O al menos a eso se apunta. Ubuntu suele ser mas lenta que Debian porque levanta muchos mas servicios, a fin de dar mas funcionalidad al escritorio. Creo que con las sucesivas versiones Ubuntu va mejorando su calidad. Recuerdo que las primeras versiones eran muy inestables. Ayer me instale la nueva 9.10 y la verdad es que no he tenido ningun problema. Yo creo que para el usuario comun, con hardware decente, Ubuntu es hoy por hoy la distribucion mas recomendable. Y aunque tecnicamente Debian sea mejor que Ubuntu, tambien es cierto que Ubuntu ha generado una masa de usuarios mucho mas importante que la que ha generado Debian, y esto redunda en mas desarrollo de software libre, de lo cual Gnome se esta beneficiando particularmente. Yo añadaría que Ubuntu para un publico mas vasto, no tan tecnico más facilidad para encontrar a través de Internet, basicamente busquedas en Google y en webs y blogs orientados a Ubuntu, una mayor cantidad de información mayor en lenguaje más entendible para estos usuarios para resolver los problemas que se puedan encontrar en la instalación y el uso de la distribución, aunque es sorprendente que en un Debian recien instalado se puedan reproducir todos los archivos multimedia de sonido y video y en Ubuntu no, lo cual demuestra el esfuerzo que finalmente Debian está incorporando para acercarse a estos usuarios. -- Saludos J. Tura jt...@esdebian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Comparacion de debian y ubuntu
El jue, 05-11-2009 a las 09:43 +, Yoandy Melero escribió: Amigos, no tengo internet y les hago esta pregunta para una clase en la universidad. Necesito una comparación general entre debian y ubuntu. O sea, semejansa y diferencia entre estos dos sistemas. independientemente de la version que sea. Puede ser??? Me parece medio dificil porque: 1 Con tu pregunta podes desatar una guerra santa 2 Esa informacion esta en Internet, y si no tenes internet es ridiculo que te pidan eso. Es como pedirle a un ciego que analice la fotografia de una pelicula *** ** **Yoandy Melero García **Administrador de red **WEB: http://www.eia.cfg.rimed.cu **Tel: (043) 510803 **E-Mail: yoa...@eia.cfg.rimed.cu **S.O: Debian Lenny 100% ** *** signature.asc Description: Esta parte del mensaje está firmada digitalmente
Re: Comparacion de debian y ubuntu .OT
El mié, 04-11-2009 a las 14:24 -0300, Facundo A escribió: On Jueves 05 Noviembre 2009 09:47:46 Yoandy Melero escribió: es para las dos cosas. Si me lo dan en la universidad es para aprender tambien. pero no tengo navegacion. por eso les pido su ayuda. Pero me han dicho que algunos debianeros no se llevan muy bien con el ubuntu. Claro, pero normalmente cuando piden que alguien investigue algo es porque consideran que va a aprender haciéndolo, sino directamente darían el material en clase. Creo que aquí preguntaron si era para la facultad para saber si querías que te hagamos la tarea. Por otra parte, las comparaciones se pueden hacer desde muchos aspectos y siempre depende de cuestiones personales y hasta de ciertas malas o buenas experiencias que haya tenido el que está realizando la comparación. Hola hermano, si es para instalar en un lab, tu solución es debian, pues tengo un script acá que es pan comido, debian es mucho mas ligero que ubuntu, y más si las maquinatas que te acompañan son hanel o de bajo recursos ejemplo RAM, si son ASUS de 512de RAM te aconsejaría ubuntu por evitar problemas con la tarjeta de red, pero no soy quien para decirte cual de los dos es el mejor, creo que los dos son estupendo, no pienso menospreciar el trabajo de miles de compañeros, sld2. -- liuber's (o- Web de Salud en Cuba //\ Debian www.sld.cu V_/_ Lenny the quieter you become, the more you are able to hear -- Este mensaje le ha llegado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que ofrece Infomed para respaldar el cumplimiento de las misiones del Sistema Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Comparacion de debian y ubuntu
Me parece que casi nadie interpreta bien los correos. Está muy clara la ayuda que quieren brindar pero puse en la primera linea que no tengo navegación, solo correo. Me han mandado algunos enlaces pero no resulvo nada y sigo sin aprender. Mas o menos lo que ando buscando es semejanza en cuanto a su estructura de directorios, repositorios, etc.. y diferencia entre los dos. mas o menos en filosofia de software libre. cantidad de versiones, formas de trabajar. etc.. Mas o menos algo así. No mucho. Y caracteristicas particulares de cada uno de estos S.O. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Comparacion de debian y ubuntu
El día 5 de noviembre de 2009 12:59, Yoandy Melero yoa...@eia.cfg.rimed.cu escribió: Me parece que casi nadie interpreta bien los correos. Está muy clara la ayuda que quieren brindar pero puse en la primera linea que no tengo navegación, solo correo. Me han mandado algunos enlaces pero no resulvo nada y sigo sin aprender. Mas o menos lo que ando buscando es semejanza en cuanto a su estructura de directorios, repositorios, etc.. y diferencia entre los dos. mas o menos en filosofia de software libre. cantidad de versiones, formas de trabajar. etc.. Mas o menos algo así. No mucho. Y caracteristicas particulares de cada uno de estos S.O. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Si argumentas de mejor manera y expones más claramente lo que pides, se interpreta de la manera que deseas :) ahora como muchos de aquí ya han contestado por ahi te mandaron unos enlaces como para poder revisarlos, me imagino que en tu facultad le deben pasar internet para poder hacer trabajos de investigación o en algun cyber cafe o algo (amigo). Saludos -- Roberto Quiñones Owner - Service Manager and System ACShell.NET – Internet Services robe...@acshell.net - www.acshell.net San Martin #311 Santiago – CL (Chile) +560981361713 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Comparacion de debian y ubuntu .OT
Yo encuentro que la diferencia más importante es más bien ideológica. Que Debian se preocupa más por separar claramente los paquetes libres de los no-libres. En cambio Ubuntu no. Asume que al usuario no le interesa esto y descarga cualquier cosa que haga falta y punto. Si es libre o no, ni lo menciona. Aparte de ésto, creo que hay una diferencia en cuanto a la orientación respecto al usuario. Ubuntu está más bien orientado al usuario que estaba en Windows y decide pasarse a Linux. Trata de parecerse lo más posible a Windows para que al usuario se le haga más suave la transición. Y trata de tener ya puestos un montón de programas para que el usuario sólo tenga que sentarse y ponerse a usar la computadora. Debian en cambio, no asume nada respecto al usuario. Instala un sistema básico según el uso que le vaya a dar y luego deja en libertad al usuario para que elija por sí mismo. Esto a algunos usuarios les complica y a otros les simplifica la vida. Y a otros simplemente les gusta. Y fijate que no digo 'usuarios experimentados'. Yo no era experimentada la primera vez que me encontre con un Debian, no sabía nada y sin embargo lo que más me gustaba era revolver entre los programas disponibles para tratar de instalarlos y probarlos. Es cuestión de gustos. Hay que gente que le gusta elegir los programas (y en todo caso probarlos e ir descartando) y hay gente que no, que quiere sentarse y que el sistema haga todo. Los dos son válidos y cada uno forma un público (o clientela o como quieras llamarle) para cada distribución. Un comentario final. Si bien Ubuntu trata de simplificar al máximo las tareas al usuario, no llega a considerarlo tarado. Lo menciono porque hay distribuciones que sí lo hacen, como SuSe y OpenSuSe. Están hechas de una forma tan rígida y dándole tan poco margen al usuario que pareciera que lo toman por estúpido a uno. Y repito que no es una cuestión de experiencia porque yo las usé siendo novata. Por lo demás, no hay mayormente diferencias. Hacen más diferencia los escritorios que los sistemas en sí. Espero que te sirva Un abrazo Sylvia PD: Si tuviera una conexión decente de internet te haría una búsqueda y pegaría los contenidos en el correo pero no la tengo así que por ahora, ésto es todo lo que te puedo ofrecer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Comparacion de debian y ubuntu
El jue, 05-11-2009 a las 16:59 +, Yoandy Melero escribió: Me parece que casi nadie interpreta bien los correos. Está muy clara la ayuda que quieren brindar pero puse en la primera linea que no tengo navegación, solo correo. Me han mandado algunos enlaces pero no resulvo nada y sigo sin aprender. Mas o menos lo que ando buscando es semejanza en cuanto a su estructura de directorios, repositorios, etc.. y diferencia entre los dos. mas o menos en filosofia de software libre. cantidad de versiones, formas de trabajar. etc.. Mas o menos algo así. No mucho. Y caracteristicas particulares de cada uno de estos S.O. En cuanto a formas de trabajar, son más bien opuestas. Debian saca una versión nueva cuando están todos seguros (no nos olvidemos que es un trabajo comunitario) de que es lo mejor posible y tiene la menor cantidad de bugs posibles. En cambio, Ubuntu saca una versión cada poco tiempo como forma de mantener el interés y porque apunta a un tipo de usuario, que como dije en el correo anterior, viene de usar software comercial. Y el software comercial acostumbra a sacar a cada rato nuevas versiones para mantener a los clientes. No importa mucho si la nueva versión es mejor o no, que la anterior, la cuestión es que el cliente la descargue y/o la compre. Por eso es que a veces Ubuntu adolece de cierta inestabilidad, por el tema de las versiones que se sacan sin probar demasiado. Aparte de ésto, Debian es sostenido por una amplia comunidad mundial (no sólo programadores) y Ubuntu es sostenido por Canonical que es una empresa. Saludito cordial Sylvia
Re: Comparacion de debian y ubuntu
Hola Una ligera corrección amiga: Sylvia Sánchez escribió: Y el software comercial acostumbra a sacar a cada rato nuevas versiones para mantener a los clientes. No, es para que los clientes los mantengan a ellos ;-) Saludos. Juan Lavieri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Comparacion de debian y ubuntu
Hola: Estoy muy de acuerdo con tu punto Angel. Saludos, Carlos. --- El jue 5-nov-09, Angel Claudio Alvarez dus.an...@gmail.com escribió: De: Angel Claudio Alvarez dus.an...@gmail.com Asunto: Re: Comparacion de debian y ubuntu A: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Fecha: jueves, 5 noviembre, 2009, 2:52 pm El jue, 05-11-2009 a las 09:43 +, Yoandy Melero escribió: Amigos, no tengo internet y les hago esta pregunta para una clase en la universidad. Necesito una comparación general entre debian y ubuntu. O sea, semejansa y diferencia entre estos dos sistemas. independientemente de la version que sea. Puede ser??? Me parece medio dificil porque: 1 Con tu pregunta podes desatar una guerra santa 2 Esa informacion esta en Internet, y si no tenes internet es ridiculo que te pidan eso. Es como pedirle a un ciego que analice la fotografia de una pelicula *** ** ** Yoandy Melero García ** Administrador de red ** WEB: http://www.eia.cfg.rimed.cu ** Tel: (043) 510803 ** E-Mail: yoa...@eia.cfg.rimed.cu ** S.O: Debian Lenny 100% ** *** ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=e1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Sobre Gnome
El 4 de noviembre de 2009 20:49, Rodrigo Cortés roc...@gmail.com escribió: Buenas.. Yo estoy usando sid+exp con gnome actualizado ayer y no he tenido problemas, incluso ha mejorado en rendimiento. Podrías verificar el log de tu última actualización para verificar que no se ha eliminado algún paquete por problemas de dependencias. 2009/11/4 Lester Pastrana les...@uh.cu: On Miércoles 04 Noviembre 2009 18:19:41 Lester Pastrana escribió: Buenas amigos listeros Alguien sabe la razón por la cual algunas aplicaciones de gnome se caen con un error gigantesco en la consola Yo actualize a squeez y aunque noto grandes cambios gnome se porta asquerosamente mal ademas no puedo ni grabar cd ni dvd en ningun programa :S no se que hacer pasare a SID a ver que tal me va... gnome-control-center ** (gnome-control-center:10284): WARNING **: error raised: [libslab_get_gconf_value: error getting /desktop/gnome/applications/main-menu/lock-down/user_modifiable_apps] ** (gnome-control-center:10284): WARNING **: error raised: [load_xbel_store: couldn't load bookmark file [NULL] ] ** (gnome-control-center:10284): WARNING **: get_actions_list() - PROBLEM - Can't load gtk-theme-selector.desktop ** (gnome-control-center:10284): WARNING **: get_actions_list() - PROBLEM - Can't load gnome-cups-manager.desktop (gnome-keybinding-properties:10287): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_store_get_value: assertion `VALID_ITER (iter, tree_store)' failed (gnome-keybinding-properties:10287): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd- glib2.0_2.22.2-2-i386-R8GTDn/glib2.0-2.22.2/gobject/gtype.c:3940: type id `0' is invalid (gnome-keybinding-properties:10287): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: can't peek value table for type `invalid' which is not currently referenced Esto ocurrió al dar la opción de combinaciones de teclas Con gestión de archivos sucede lo mismo pero el error es mas grande aún y lo mismo con algunas otras funciones de aplicaciones. A mi me parece que hay un error en las librerías de gtk pero no se si mi suposición es cierta o no. Es realmente un bug? Porque lo he probado en un sistema acabado de instalar y sucede exactamente igual, de hecho lo instalé con el instaladro clásico de debian no a mano. Gracias de antemano y espero sus respuestas Por cierto olvidé decir que uso squeeze gnome 2.28.0 y acabo de actualizar el mirror -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- -- atte. Francisco Aravena | Este mensaje no contiene virus ya que fue escrito en una PC con | sistema | LINUX. | | | This message doesn't contain viruses, because it has been created with | Linux. | |___
Re: Sobre Gnome
Hola listeros, hola Francisco Francisco Javier Aravena Jimenez escribió: El 4 de noviembre de 2009 20:49, Rodrigo Cortés roc...@gmail.com mailto:roc...@gmail.com escribió: Buenas.. Yo estoy usando sid+exp con gnome actualizado ayer y no he tenido problemas, incluso ha mejorado en rendimiento. Podrías verificar el log de tu última actualización para verificar que no se ha eliminado algún paquete por problemas de dependencias. 2009/11/4 Lester Pastrana les...@uh.cu mailto:les...@uh.cu: On Miércoles 04 Noviembre 2009 18:19:41 Lester Pastrana escribió: Buenas amigos listeros Alguien sabe la razón por la cual algunas aplicaciones de gnome se caen con un error gigantesco en la consola Yo actualize a squeez y aunque noto grandes cambios gnome se porta asquerosamente mal ademas no puedo ni grabar cd ni dvd en ningun programa :S no se que hacer pasare a SID a ver que tal me va... Ciertamente esta actualización fue de terror, pero las he visto peores. En lo personal, he pasado varias veces por esto y la solución ha sido esperar. Generalmente la solución no tarda mas de un par de días; ese es el precio que debemos pagar por usar testing. Además recordemos que es nuestro privilegio documentar y reportar los bugs que existan. Así es como funciona. Ir a sid no es recomendable ya que, todos los que estamos en testing aceptamos que en algún momento las cosas se pueden descontrolar; sin embargo, nuestro sistema aún estará funcional. Esa garantía no existe en unstable, así que yo lo pensaría muy bien. Paciencia. gnome-control-center ** (gnome-control-center:10284): WARNING **: error raised: [libslab_get_gconf_value: error getting /desktop/gnome/applications/main-menu/lock-down/user_modifiable_apps] ** (gnome-control-center:10284): WARNING **: error raised: [load_xbel_store: couldn't load bookmark file [NULL] ] ** (gnome-control-center:10284): WARNING **: get_actions_list() - PROBLEM - Can't load gtk-theme-selector.desktop ** (gnome-control-center:10284): WARNING **: get_actions_list() - PROBLEM - Can't load gnome-cups-manager.desktop (gnome-keybinding-properties:10287): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_store_get_value: assertion `VALID_ITER (iter, tree_store)' failed (gnome-keybinding-properties:10287): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd- glib2.0_2.22.2-2-i386-R8GTDn/glib2.0-2.22.2/gobject/gtype.c:3940: type id `0' is invalid (gnome-keybinding-properties:10287): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: can't peek value table for type `invalid' which is not currently referenced Esto ocurrió al dar la opción de combinaciones de teclas Con gestión de archivos sucede lo mismo pero el error es mas grande aún y lo mismo con algunas otras funciones de aplicaciones. A mi me parece que hay un error en las librerías de gtk pero no se si mi suposición es cierta o no. Es realmente un bug? Porque lo he probado en un sistema acabado de instalar y sucede exactamente igual, de hecho lo instalé con el instaladro clásico de debian no a mano. Gracias de antemano y espero sus respuestas Por cierto olvidé decir que uso squeeze gnome 2.28.0 y acabo de actualizar el mirror -- atte. Francisco Aravena Saludos. Juan Lavieri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Sobre Gnome
El día 6 de noviembre de 2009 00:28, Juan Lavieri jlavi...@gmail.com escribió: Hola listeros, hola Francisco Francisco Javier Aravena Jimenez escribió: El 4 de noviembre de 2009 20:49, Rodrigo Cortés roc...@gmail.com mailto:roc...@gmail.com escribió: Buenas.. Yo estoy usando sid+exp con gnome actualizado ayer y no he tenido problemas, incluso ha mejorado en rendimiento. Podrías verificar el log de tu última actualización para verificar que no se ha eliminado algún paquete por problemas de dependencias. 2009/11/4 Lester Pastrana les...@uh.cu mailto:les...@uh.cu: On Miércoles 04 Noviembre 2009 18:19:41 Lester Pastrana escribió: Buenas amigos listeros Alguien sabe la razón por la cual algunas aplicaciones de gnome se caen con un error gigantesco en la consola Yo actualize a squeez y aunque noto grandes cambios gnome se porta asquerosamente mal ademas no puedo ni grabar cd ni dvd en ningun programa :S no se que hacer pasare a SID a ver que tal me va... Ciertamente esta actualización fue de terror, pero las he visto peores. En lo personal, he pasado varias veces por esto y la solución ha sido esperar. Generalmente la solución no tarda mas de un par de días; ese es el precio que debemos pagar por usar testing. Además recordemos que es nuestro privilegio documentar y reportar los bugs que existan. Así es como funciona. Ir a sid no es recomendable ya que, todos los que estamos en testing aceptamos que en algún momento las cosas se pueden descontrolar; sin embargo, nuestro sistema aún estará funcional. Esa garantía no existe en unstable, así que yo lo pensaría muy bien. Paciencia. Que actualización? yo estoy actualizado al dia de hoy (6/11/2009), tengo testing desde siempre y hasta ahora cero problemas. Saludos. -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Sobre Gnome
Felix Perez escribió: Que actualización? yo estoy actualizado al dia de hoy (6/11/2009), tengo testing desde siempre y hasta ahora cero problemas. Saludos. Felix. Recuerda que no todos somos tu y que nuestros equipos no tiene porqué tener los mismos paquetes. Saludos Juan Lavieri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Comparacion de debian y ubuntu .OT
El 5 de noviembre de 2009 13:22, Sylvia Sánchez lailah...@gmail.comescribió: Yo encuentro que la diferencia más importante es más bien ideológica. Que Debian se preocupa más por separar claramente los paquetes libres de los no-libres. En cambio Ubuntu no. Asume que al usuario no le interesa esto y descarga cualquier cosa que haga falta y punto. Si es libre o no, ni lo menciona. Aparte de ésto, creo que hay una diferencia en cuanto a la orientación respecto al usuario. Ubuntu está más bien orientado al usuario que estaba en Windows y decide pasarse a Linux. Trata de parecerse lo más posible a Windows para que al usuario se le haga más suave la transición. Y trata de tener ya puestos un montón de programas para que el usuario sólo tenga que sentarse y ponerse a usar la computadora. Debian en cambio, no asume nada respecto al usuario. Instala un sistema básico según el uso que le vaya a dar y luego deja en libertad al usuario para que elija por sí mismo. Esto a algunos usuarios les complica y a otros les simplifica la vida. Y a otros simplemente les gusta. Y fijate que no digo 'usuarios experimentados'. Yo no era experimentada la primera vez que me encontre con un Debian, no sabía nada y sin embargo lo que más me gustaba era revolver entre los programas disponibles para tratar de instalarlos y probarlos. Es cuestión de gustos. Hay que gente que le gusta elegir los programas (y en todo caso probarlos e ir descartando) y hay gente que no, que quiere sentarse y que el sistema haga todo. Los dos son válidos y cada uno forma un público (o clientela o como quieras llamarle) para cada distribución. Un comentario final. Si bien Ubuntu trata de simplificar al máximo las tareas al usuario, no llega a considerarlo tarado. Lo menciono porque hay distribuciones que sí lo hacen, como SuSe y OpenSuSe. Están hechas de una forma tan rígida y dándole tan poco margen al usuario que pareciera que lo toman por estúpido a uno. Y repito que no es una cuestión de experiencia porque yo las usé siendo novata. Por lo demás, no hay mayormente diferencias. Hacen más diferencia los escritorios que los sistemas en sí. Espero que te sirva Un abrazo Sylvia PD: Si tuviera una conexión decente de internet te haría una búsqueda y pegaría los contenidos en el correo pero no la tengo así que por ahora, ésto es todo lo que te puedo ofrecer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Hasta cierto punto se tiene mucha razon en la comparacion citada, pero no todas las personas somos informaticos o contamos con esa pasion. Existen muchas otras ramas de estudio que solo decean sentarse y que la maquina funcione. Por ejemplo: Un medico despues de estudiar 12 semestres le podemos pedir que continue otros 12 en informatica para que pueda usar debian?, eso es una tonteria, entonces que usen las distribuciones que les facilitan las cosas y ninguna de las dos esta mal, cada una va dirijida a publicos totalmente diferentes como ya se a comentado muchas veces aqui.
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Tarefas Agendadas no Windows x Linux
Amigos, estou tentando fazer um shell script para checar se meus backups foram concluidos com exito, mas, para isso, preciso checar cada compartilhamento Tarefas Agendadas de cada servidor de backup das unidades para checar se o parametro ultimo resultado está 0x0 que quer dizer que foi feito. Porém, não consigo mapear o Tarefas Agendadas de uma maquina Linux nem por nada. Ja tentei mount com cifs e smbfs, mount.cifs e tudo mais. Não consigo mesmo. Alguém saberia como me fazer acessar ou mountar esse treco no linux? agradeço desde já att Harlei
Re: OpenLdap - Hardware
Tadeu, Eu trabalho com o LDAP e SAMBA na Previdência Social, isto é, atendemos todas as APS (Agências da Previdência Social) com um SAMBA configurado como PDC em cada APS (isso mesmo cada APS tem um SAMBA PDC) e todos referenciam um pool de servidores LDAP (balanceados por um SWITCH de conteúdo - hardware). Atualmente temos além do SAMBA, o Expresso, o OpenFire, o Proxy, o Alfresco, MoinMoin, além de outros servidores Apache configurados para autenticar nesse mesmo pool de LDAP. Temos mais de 60 mil contas de usuários, mais de 50 Grupos, mais de 2000 Listas de Distribuição armazenadas nesse LDAP. Cada servidor LDAP consome no máximo um total de 1,5GB para manter toda a base em cache. O que importa realmente para o LDAP é a customização que você fizer no slapd.conf. Na verdade você é quem define tudo. Resumindo: uma boa customização torna qualquer servidor LDAP em um super LDAP. Att, Jarbas 2009/11/5 Tadeu Cruz tadeuc...@tadeucruz.com: Sim os serviços vao ser em maquinas totalmente separadas. Infelizmente não vi nenhuma referencia em livros ou na internet de quanto de memória o OpenLdap tem necessidade. Obrigado, 2009/11/5 Molinero cybercro...@gmail.com: 1- Eu colocaria mais memória 2- Nem tudo é memória... CPU, HD, placa mae, etc, etc... tudo influencia na performance 3- Eu nao colocaria todos os serviços em um unico servidor. 2009/11/5 Tadeu Cruz tadeuc...@tadeucruz.com Olá a todos, estou para montar um servidor de OpenLdap que deve conter no mínimo 3000 contas. Este servidor vai ser responsável por autenticar no samba, pam, sistema de impressão, squid e talvez em um servidor de email sem falar que vai ter que realizar replicas em diversos servidores diferentes. Estava pensando em uma maquina com multiprocessamento, 2 GB de RAM, e 2 hd sata (para sistema e outro para LDAP) e uma boa configuração ? Esta fraco ? Bom qualquer relato de experiência com servidor de LDAP com muitas contas seria de grande ajuda. Obrigado. -- http://blog.tadeucruz.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- http://blog.tadeucruz.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: impressora instalada em win xp e cliente linux
O wizard do GNOME ou do cups já tem um campo para digitar nome e outro para digitar a senha. A URI para a impressora depende se voce tem dominio ou nao. Se tiver dominio seria algo assim smb://dominio/estacao/compartilhamento. inte+ 2009/11/5 Márcio Pedroso sarrafocapoe...@gmail.com: a questao é essa entao, eu nao tenho usuario e senha de ingresso na minha rede local.. nem no pc que tem a imperssora tem senha.. como voce colocaria na configuraçao da impressora o usuario e sernha.. ex: smb://convidado:@10.1.1.4/HPOffice 2009/11/3 hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com Ao instalar a impressora, apenas cite usuário e senha com a qual voce ingressa à rede. A conta guest é melhor deixar desabilitada no servidor de impressao, só habilite em ultimo caso. []'s 2009/11/3 Márcio Pedroso sarrafocapoe...@gmail.com: cara.. deve ser a segunda opçao, relativo ao guest.. o que devo fazer, criar uma conta com usuario e senha e dar permiçao de impressao ou simplesmente criar uma senha para o convidado? 2009/11/3 hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com Olha, voce deve verificar se na fila de impressão no WinXP, o job aparece. Se o job aparece então é um problema relativo ao Windows e Impressora, alguma coisa faz seu windows/impressora rejeitar o seu job. As vezes, voce manda uma impressao em tamanho A4 e tem na bandeja papel Carta e daí a impressora queima sua impressão. Isso é muito comum com lasers. Um problema comum em redes com dominio Active Directory e/ou XP c/ SP2+ é não aceitar impressão Guest, pois o Guest normalmente é uma conta por default desabilitada no dominio ou na máquina local, então voce só poderá imprimir autenticando-se, o cups tem aquele parametro de conta de usuario/senha para redes windows e deverá ser usada neste caso. Esse é um problema tão comum, que as vezes o pessoal de TI com redes mistas transforma a impressao do Windows em impressao via Internet (imprime por http) e configura os clientes dessa forma, reabilita o Guest ou cria uma conta especifica para impressao. Se o driver é o correto, esses dois problemas são os mais comuns. 2009/11/2 Márcio Pedroso sarrafocapoe...@gmail.com: estou usando uma impressora instalada no windows xp professional(mal necessario), e uso no meu pc conectado a rede o debian squeeze, e nao consigo fazer imprimir de jeito nenhum. a impressora em questao é uma officejet 4335. o que acontece é o seguinte configurei para imprimir via samba(pacote do samba instalado) usando o cups.. mando imprimir uma pagina teste, ou qualquer outra.. ele me informa que o pacote foi enviado com sucesso, a impressora começa a trabalhar e fica nisso.. observei que na janela da impressora mostra que tem um trabalho imprimindo mas aonde informa a quantidade de paginas monstra N/D e fica parado nos 64kb da pagina de teste que ele acusa ter 2.45Mb. o meu printer.conf Printer officejet Info hp officejet 4335 Location pc01 MakeModel HP Officejet 4300 Series hpijs, 3.9.4b DeviceURI smb://10.1.1.4/HPOffice State Idle StateTime 1256875688 Type 8425484 Filter application/vnd.cups-raw 0 - Filter application/vnd.cups-postscript 100 foomatic-rip Filter application/vnd.cups-pdf 0 foomatic-rip Accepting Yes Shared No JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 OpPolicy default ErrorPolicy stop-printer /Printer se puderem me dar uma luz ficaria muito agradecido -- linux user nº 432194 Eu sou livre e você? -- linux user nº 432194 Eu sou livre e você? -- linux user nº 432194 Eu sou livre e você? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OpenLdap - Hardware
Jarbas, Isso dá um belo estudo de caso. Vocês tem algo documentado que possa disponibilizar? 2009/11/5 Jarbas Peixoto Júnior jarbas.jun...@gmail.com: Tadeu, Eu trabalho com o LDAP e SAMBA na Previdência Social, isto é, atendemos todas as APS (Agências da Previdência Social) com um SAMBA configurado como PDC em cada APS (isso mesmo cada APS tem um SAMBA PDC) e todos referenciam um pool de servidores LDAP (balanceados por um SWITCH de conteúdo - hardware). Atualmente temos além do SAMBA, o Expresso, o OpenFire, o Proxy, o Alfresco, MoinMoin, além de outros servidores Apache configurados para autenticar nesse mesmo pool de LDAP. Temos mais de 60 mil contas de usuários, mais de 50 Grupos, mais de 2000 Listas de Distribuição armazenadas nesse LDAP. Cada servidor LDAP consome no máximo um total de 1,5GB para manter toda a base em cache. O que importa realmente para o LDAP é a customização que você fizer no slapd.conf. Na verdade você é quem define tudo. Resumindo: uma boa customização torna qualquer servidor LDAP em um super LDAP. Att, Jarbas 2009/11/5 Tadeu Cruz tadeuc...@tadeucruz.com: Sim os serviços vao ser em maquinas totalmente separadas. Infelizmente não vi nenhuma referencia em livros ou na internet de quanto de memória o OpenLdap tem necessidade. Obrigado, 2009/11/5 Molinero cybercro...@gmail.com: 1- Eu colocaria mais memória 2- Nem tudo é memória... CPU, HD, placa mae, etc, etc... tudo influencia na performance 3- Eu nao colocaria todos os serviços em um unico servidor. 2009/11/5 Tadeu Cruz tadeuc...@tadeucruz.com Olá a todos, estou para montar um servidor de OpenLdap que deve conter no mínimo 3000 contas. Este servidor vai ser responsável por autenticar no samba, pam, sistema de impressão, squid e talvez em um servidor de email sem falar que vai ter que realizar replicas em diversos servidores diferentes. Estava pensando em uma maquina com multiprocessamento, 2 GB de RAM, e 2 hd sata (para sistema e outro para LDAP) e uma boa configuração ? Esta fraco ? Bom qualquer relato de experiência com servidor de LDAP com muitas contas seria de grande ajuda. Obrigado. -- http://blog.tadeucruz.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- http://blog.tadeucruz.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- Welington Rodrigues Braga -- Web: http://www.welrbraga.eti.br MSN: welrbraga[*]msn·com Gtalk: welrbraga[*]gmail·com Yahoo / Skype: welrbraga PGP Key: 0x6C7654EB Linux User #253605 Em tudo somos atribulados, porém não angustiados; perplexos, porém não desanimados; perseguidos, porém não desamparados; abatidos, porém não destruídos; - 2Co 4:8,9 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: impressora instalada em win xp e cliente linux
e ele aceita user em branco? 2009/11/5 hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com O wizard do GNOME ou do cups já tem um campo para digitar nome e outro para digitar a senha. A URI para a impressora depende se voce tem dominio ou nao. Se tiver dominio seria algo assim smb://dominio/estacao/compartilhamento. inte+ 2009/11/5 Márcio Pedroso sarrafocapoe...@gmail.com: a questao é essa entao, eu nao tenho usuario e senha de ingresso na minha rede local.. nem no pc que tem a imperssora tem senha.. como voce colocaria na configuraçao da impressora o usuario e sernha.. ex: smb://convidado:@10.1.1.4/HPOffice 2009/11/3 hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com Ao instalar a impressora, apenas cite usuário e senha com a qual voce ingressa à rede. A conta guest é melhor deixar desabilitada no servidor de impressao, só habilite em ultimo caso. []'s 2009/11/3 Márcio Pedroso sarrafocapoe...@gmail.com: cara.. deve ser a segunda opçao, relativo ao guest.. o que devo fazer, criar uma conta com usuario e senha e dar permiçao de impressao ou simplesmente criar uma senha para o convidado? 2009/11/3 hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com Olha, voce deve verificar se na fila de impressão no WinXP, o job aparece. Se o job aparece então é um problema relativo ao Windows e Impressora, alguma coisa faz seu windows/impressora rejeitar o seu job. As vezes, voce manda uma impressao em tamanho A4 e tem na bandeja papel Carta e daí a impressora queima sua impressão. Isso é muito comum com lasers. Um problema comum em redes com dominio Active Directory e/ou XP c/ SP2+ é não aceitar impressão Guest, pois o Guest normalmente é uma conta por default desabilitada no dominio ou na máquina local, então voce só poderá imprimir autenticando-se, o cups tem aquele parametro de conta de usuario/senha para redes windows e deverá ser usada neste caso. Esse é um problema tão comum, que as vezes o pessoal de TI com redes mistas transforma a impressao do Windows em impressao via Internet (imprime por http) e configura os clientes dessa forma, reabilita o Guest ou cria uma conta especifica para impressao. Se o driver é o correto, esses dois problemas são os mais comuns. 2009/11/2 Márcio Pedroso sarrafocapoe...@gmail.com: estou usando uma impressora instalada no windows xp professional(mal necessario), e uso no meu pc conectado a rede o debian squeeze, e nao consigo fazer imprimir de jeito nenhum. a impressora em questao é uma officejet 4335. o que acontece é o seguinte configurei para imprimir via samba(pacote do samba instalado) usando o cups.. mando imprimir uma pagina teste, ou qualquer outra.. ele me informa que o pacote foi enviado com sucesso, a impressora começa a trabalhar e fica nisso.. observei que na janela da impressora mostra que tem um trabalho imprimindo mas aonde informa a quantidade de paginas monstra N/D e fica parado nos 64kb da pagina de teste que ele acusa ter 2.45Mb. o meu printer.conf Printer officejet Info hp officejet 4335 Location pc01 MakeModel HP Officejet 4300 Series hpijs, 3.9.4b DeviceURI smb://10.1.1.4/HPOffice State Idle StateTime 1256875688 Type 8425484 Filter application/vnd.cups-raw 0 - Filter application/vnd.cups-postscript 100 foomatic-rip Filter application/vnd.cups-pdf 0 foomatic-rip Accepting Yes Shared No JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 OpPolicy default ErrorPolicy stop-printer /Printer se puderem me dar uma luz ficaria muito agradecido -- linux user nº 432194 Eu sou livre e você? -- linux user nº 432194 Eu sou livre e você? -- linux user nº 432194 Eu sou livre e você? -- linux user nº 432194 Eu sou livre e você?
Re: OpenLdap - Hardware
Todo o processo, desde a instalação dos servidores LDAP até o ingresso de máquinas Windows no domínio SAMBA está documentado em um TWiki interno. Em breve disponibilizarei todo material que possa ser aproveitado por outros no http://ldap-br.blogspot.com (meu blog sobre LDAP+Samba). Tem ainda um gerenciador Web de LDAP+Samba que também faz parte dos meus planos disponibilizar o código fonte, pois não encontrei nada na internet que facilitasse a administração por quem não conhece LDAP nem SAMBA. Trata-se do WeMoIP que tem alguns screenshots no artigo do blog relacionado à migração de usuários para OpenLDAP. Sem dúvida, e também sem modéstia, é muito fácil de ser utilizado. Aguardem... 2009/11/5 Welington R. Braga welrbr...@gmail.com: Jarbas, Isso dá um belo estudo de caso. Vocês tem algo documentado que possa disponibilizar? 2009/11/5 Jarbas Peixoto Júnior jarbas.jun...@gmail.com: Tadeu, Eu trabalho com o LDAP e SAMBA na Previdência Social, isto é, atendemos todas as APS (Agências da Previdência Social) com um SAMBA configurado como PDC em cada APS (isso mesmo cada APS tem um SAMBA PDC) e todos referenciam um pool de servidores LDAP (balanceados por um SWITCH de conteúdo - hardware). Atualmente temos além do SAMBA, o Expresso, o OpenFire, o Proxy, o Alfresco, MoinMoin, além de outros servidores Apache configurados para autenticar nesse mesmo pool de LDAP. Temos mais de 60 mil contas de usuários, mais de 50 Grupos, mais de 2000 Listas de Distribuição armazenadas nesse LDAP. Cada servidor LDAP consome no máximo um total de 1,5GB para manter toda a base em cache. O que importa realmente para o LDAP é a customização que você fizer no slapd.conf. Na verdade você é quem define tudo. Resumindo: uma boa customização torna qualquer servidor LDAP em um super LDAP. Att, Jarbas 2009/11/5 Tadeu Cruz tadeuc...@tadeucruz.com: Sim os serviços vao ser em maquinas totalmente separadas. Infelizmente não vi nenhuma referencia em livros ou na internet de quanto de memória o OpenLdap tem necessidade. Obrigado, 2009/11/5 Molinero cybercro...@gmail.com: 1- Eu colocaria mais memória 2- Nem tudo é memória... CPU, HD, placa mae, etc, etc... tudo influencia na performance 3- Eu nao colocaria todos os serviços em um unico servidor. 2009/11/5 Tadeu Cruz tadeuc...@tadeucruz.com Olá a todos, estou para montar um servidor de OpenLdap que deve conter no mínimo 3000 contas. Este servidor vai ser responsável por autenticar no samba, pam, sistema de impressão, squid e talvez em um servidor de email sem falar que vai ter que realizar replicas em diversos servidores diferentes. Estava pensando em uma maquina com multiprocessamento, 2 GB de RAM, e 2 hd sata (para sistema e outro para LDAP) e uma boa configuração ? Esta fraco ? Bom qualquer relato de experiência com servidor de LDAP com muitas contas seria de grande ajuda. Obrigado. -- http://blog.tadeucruz.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- http://blog.tadeucruz.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- Welington Rodrigues Braga -- Web: http://www.welrbraga.eti.br MSN: welrbraga[*]msn·com Gtalk: welrbraga[*]gmail·com Yahoo / Skype: welrbraga PGP Key: 0x6C7654EB Linux User #253605 Em tudo somos atribulados, porém não angustiados; perplexos, porém não desanimados; perseguidos, porém não desamparados; abatidos, porém não destruídos; - 2Co 4:8,9 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: impressora instalada em win xp e cliente linux
Colega, nao tem nada a ver com o Linux, o windows se voce nao especificar usuario+senha, ele vai atribuir guest (convidado) , mas se a conta convidado estiver desabilitada no sistema windows entao nao imprimirá. Se voce nao entender esse problema vai patinar por muito tempo. Se voce tem pouca experiencia com o Windows e nao quer sofrer muito entao habilita a conta guest (convidado) no seu windows embora eu tenha dito que há razoes para mante-la desabilitada ou que voce pode imprimir com qualquer conta, afinal o windows nao funciona sem uma conta de usuario ou funciona ? 2009/11/5 Márcio Pedroso sarrafocapoe...@gmail.com: e ele aceita user em branco? 2009/11/5 hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com O wizard do GNOME ou do cups já tem um campo para digitar nome e outro para digitar a senha. A URI para a impressora depende se voce tem dominio ou nao. Se tiver dominio seria algo assim smb://dominio/estacao/compartilhamento. inte+ 2009/11/5 Márcio Pedroso sarrafocapoe...@gmail.com: a questao é essa entao, eu nao tenho usuario e senha de ingresso na minha rede local.. nem no pc que tem a imperssora tem senha.. como voce colocaria na configuraçao da impressora o usuario e sernha.. ex: smb://convidado:@10.1.1.4/HPOffice 2009/11/3 hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com Ao instalar a impressora, apenas cite usuário e senha com a qual voce ingressa à rede. A conta guest é melhor deixar desabilitada no servidor de impressao, só habilite em ultimo caso. []'s 2009/11/3 Márcio Pedroso sarrafocapoe...@gmail.com: cara.. deve ser a segunda opçao, relativo ao guest.. o que devo fazer, criar uma conta com usuario e senha e dar permiçao de impressao ou simplesmente criar uma senha para o convidado? 2009/11/3 hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com Olha, voce deve verificar se na fila de impressão no WinXP, o job aparece. Se o job aparece então é um problema relativo ao Windows e Impressora, alguma coisa faz seu windows/impressora rejeitar o seu job. As vezes, voce manda uma impressao em tamanho A4 e tem na bandeja papel Carta e daí a impressora queima sua impressão. Isso é muito comum com lasers. Um problema comum em redes com dominio Active Directory e/ou XP c/ SP2+ é não aceitar impressão Guest, pois o Guest normalmente é uma conta por default desabilitada no dominio ou na máquina local, então voce só poderá imprimir autenticando-se, o cups tem aquele parametro de conta de usuario/senha para redes windows e deverá ser usada neste caso. Esse é um problema tão comum, que as vezes o pessoal de TI com redes mistas transforma a impressao do Windows em impressao via Internet (imprime por http) e configura os clientes dessa forma, reabilita o Guest ou cria uma conta especifica para impressao. Se o driver é o correto, esses dois problemas são os mais comuns. 2009/11/2 Márcio Pedroso sarrafocapoe...@gmail.com: estou usando uma impressora instalada no windows xp professional(mal necessario), e uso no meu pc conectado a rede o debian squeeze, e nao consigo fazer imprimir de jeito nenhum. a impressora em questao é uma officejet 4335. o que acontece é o seguinte configurei para imprimir via samba(pacote do samba instalado) usando o cups.. mando imprimir uma pagina teste, ou qualquer outra.. ele me informa que o pacote foi enviado com sucesso, a impressora começa a trabalhar e fica nisso.. observei que na janela da impressora mostra que tem um trabalho imprimindo mas aonde informa a quantidade de paginas monstra N/D e fica parado nos 64kb da pagina de teste que ele acusa ter 2.45Mb. o meu printer.conf Printer officejet Info hp officejet 4335 Location pc01 MakeModel HP Officejet 4300 Series hpijs, 3.9.4b DeviceURI smb://10.1.1.4/HPOffice State Idle StateTime 1256875688 Type 8425484 Filter application/vnd.cups-raw 0 - Filter application/vnd.cups-postscript 100 foomatic-rip Filter application/vnd.cups-pdf 0 foomatic-rip Accepting Yes Shared No JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 OpPolicy default ErrorPolicy stop-printer /Printer se puderem me dar uma luz ficaria muito agradecido -- linux user nº 432194 Eu sou livre e você? -- linux user nº 432194 Eu sou livre e você? -- linux user nº 432194 Eu sou livre e você? -- linux user nº 432194 Eu sou livre e você? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Tarefas Agendadas no Windows x Linux
2009/11/5 Harlei Liguori Marcelino hligu...@gmail.com: Amigos, estou tentando fazer um shell script para checar se meus backups foram concluidos com exito, mas, para isso, preciso checar cada compartilhamento Tarefas Agendadas de cada servidor de backup das unidades para checar se o parametro ultimo resultado está 0x0 que quer dizer que foi feito. Porém, não consigo mapear o Tarefas Agendadas de uma maquina Linux nem por nada. Ja tentei mount com cifs e smbfs, mount.cifs e tudo mais. Não consigo mesmo. Alguém saberia como me fazer acessar ou mountar esse treco no linux? agradeço desde já att Harlei O fato de você não conseguir acessar o compartilhamento é que ele simplesmente não existe ... O responsável por tarefas agendadas no linux é o cron (ou anacron, mas isso não faz diferença aqui). O cron mantém um log das suas execuções em /var/log/cron, mas só lista qual execução ocorreu em qual hora, não lista se houve erros. Você deveria fazer com que seu programa/script de backup te enviasse um email ao final do processo, ou que ele próprio gerasse um arquivo de log, que ficaria disponível em algum lugar acessível via samba. Abraços, -- Fabiano Pires Profissional Linux LPIC-2 http://pragasdigitais.blogspot.com/ Livrando você da escória da Internet! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: What's best way to use Debian w/o my laptop? Flash + union?
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:23:26 -0500 Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: ... wiki.debian.org/WakeOnLan was all I needed. man ethtool is worth reading too. Good read, thanks. Sadly, it doesn't seem to provide any trick I didn't know yet, except for the byte-reversed MAC address oddity. Incidentally, that page forgets to mention that /proc/acpi/wakeup can also influence whether or not WOL will work (and if you look at /proc/acpi/wakeup, you'll see that some wakeup sources may only work when the machine is in S3 or S4 state, i.e. not shutdown, but hibernated or suspended). It's a wiki - consider editing it? Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: slow backup using lvm snapshots and tar
On 09-11-05 01:18:48, Israel Garcia wrote: Hi list: I'm using this command to create s snapshot of every LV's server, mount the LV, make a TGZ to a shared folder (NFS), then umount LV image and remove snapshot LV. The problem is tar backup is extremely slow (it takes 3 hours to make backup of all servers). This is the command I'm using: for vps in `cat vps`; do lvcreate -L10G -s -n $vpssnapshot /dev/vg0/$vps.domain-disk mount /dev/vg0/$vpssnapshot /mnt/vmbackup cd /mnt/vmbackup nice -n 19 tar pczf /shared/lvbackups/$vps_`date +%F` . cd ; umount /mnt/vmbackup lvremove -f /dev/vg0/$vpssnapshot;done My question is: How can I make TAR backup faster? is it possible? Is there other command faster than TGZ in this case? Lower compression levels will be faster. Either set the GZIP environment variable to a lower level (than 6) or pipe tar to gzip and use gzips -5 or some such option. Possibly xz will be faster at the same compressed size. I don't think 3 hours is slow. You might want to actually slow the process more by adding some error recovery data using something like dvdisaster. Currently an entire backup can be made useless by a single-bit error. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: apt-get does not resume downloading
Thank You for Your time and answer, Boyd: It does resume downloading, just not in the middle of a single file. (It will only download files that are missing.) Resuming in the middle of a file has shown to be problematic and is not supported by all the mirrors anyway. Resuming in the middle of a file results in a file with a bad checksum more often than restarting the file entirely. I have downloaded one package with wget to partial dir. - why it did not install it but rather has started downloading again? Can I check its integrity (of the downloaded by wget file) by issuing apt-get install package ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How do I make udev give me /dev/lp0 ?
Does the device appear if you run as root 'modprobe parport'? No, this does not change the contents of /dev at all. Thanks anyway, Caeles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On 2009-11-05 15:56 (+0200), Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: audio player: Amarok cd-ripper: abcde desktop environment OR window manager: KDE development: Emacs disc burner: k3b e-mail client: Emacs (Gnus) file manager: Konqueror ftp client: lftp mathematics: Emacs (Calc) misc utilities: Git (version control tool) package manager: aptitude pdf/ps-reader: Kpdf terminal emulator: GNU Screen inside XTerm text editor: Emacs video player: MPlayer web browser: Iceweasel word-processor: OpenOffice.org Writer any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): Debian The Linux kernel development community and companies -- Feel free to Cc me your replies if you want to make sure I'll notice them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: blurry fonts (again)
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 23:52:05 +0100 Florian Kulzer florian.kulzer+deb...@icfo.es wrote: ... (I hope the rapidshare links work; I currently have no personal webspace for sharing files.) Thanks very much for your help, but unfortunately, Rapidshare is giving me a hard time: Error You want to download the following file: http://rapidshare.com/files/302522581/he-wiki-iceweasel.pdf | 455 KB This file can only be downloaded by becoming a Premium member There are no more download slots available for free users right now. If you don't want to become a premium member, you might want to try again later. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: apt-get does not resume downloading
Thank You for Your time and answer, Celejar: But under some poor network conditions that I, and probably others, have experienced, the current system renders it virtually impossible to download large packages (e.g., openoffice.org-common, wesnoth-data), while resuming would give us at least a fighting chance. Perhaps a user-configurable setting would make the most sense? +1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Serious clock problem
On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 10:40:16AM +, Michal wrote: Steve Reilly wrote: FTALOVER wrote: Hi all, I'm running VMW ESXi 3i (3.5.0) on an 4 CPUs DELL Poweredge 1950. This machine is hosting 8 virtual machines, 5 running Etch and 3 running Lenny. All guests were running fine until I upgraded the kernel to linux-image-2.6.26-2-686_2.6.26-19 in the 3 boxes running Lenny. Now those boxes are repeatedly freezing because the system clock seems to stall. Forcing the kernel to use acpi_pm as clocksource instead of TSC and disabling TSC doesn't seems to help. So, does anybody have any suggestion on how to fix this? Thanks Eric L. Did you not take a snapshot before the upgrade?? One of the biggest +'s about ESXi is befor you do anything, take a snapshot to roll back to... boot back to the old kernel and delete the new one? restore a backup? just curiouswhy are you installing something other than a security update on a server? Unhapilly, this is very common with VMware... There is some good configuration, but depends on kernel version, hardware... The Good doc : http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vmware_timekeeping.pdf signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: slow backup using lvm snapshots and tar
Israel Garcia wrote: Hi list: I'm using this command to create s snapshot of every LV's server, mount the LV, make a TGZ to a shared folder (NFS), then umount LV image and remove snapshot LV. The problem is tar backup is extremely slow (it takes 3 hours to make backup of all servers). This is the command I'm using: for vps in `cat vps`; do lvcreate -L10G -s -n $vpssnapshot /dev/vg0/$vps.domain-disk mount /dev/vg0/$vpssnapshot /mnt/vmbackup cd /mnt/vmbackup nice -n 19 tar pczf /shared/lvbackups/$vps_`date +%F` . cd ; umount /mnt/vmbackup lvremove -f /dev/vg0/$vpssnapshot;done My question is: How can I make TAR backup faster? is it possible? Is there other command faster than TGZ in this case? thanks in advance. Great fun this kind of thing... Look at the nfs export - fiddle with the r/wsize parameters: http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/performance.html Enough space. Produce the tar file locally then copy to the remote serverif security permits with ftp. Lots of space...Do the backups in parallel. bash wait is your friend: http://www.museum.state.il.us/ismdepts/library/linuxguides/abs-guide/x5514.html BTW: The p in pczf is an option for restore. Enjoy... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How do I make udev give me /dev/lp0 ?
On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 20:17:55 +0100, Mark Weyer wrote: Does the device appear if you run as root 'modprobe parport'? No, this does not change the contents of /dev at all. Try modprobe lp. -- Regards,| Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: blurry fonts (again)
On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 14:38:17 -0500, Celejar wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 23:52:05 +0100 Florian Kulzer wrote: ... (I hope the rapidshare links work; I currently have no personal webspace for sharing files.) Thanks very much for your help, but unfortunately, Rapidshare is giving me a hard time: Error You want to download the following file: http://rapidshare.com/files/302522581/he-wiki-iceweasel.pdf | 455 KB This file can only be downloaded by becoming a Premium member There are no more download slots available for free users right now. If you don't want to become a premium member, you might want to try again later. Is it OK if I send you the files off-list (about 500K total)? -- Regards,| Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OT: strip hebrew vowels and accents from utf-8 text
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:50:56 +1030
David Purton dcpur...@marshwiggle.net wrote:
Can anyone suggest a simple way to strip vowels out of utf-8 encoded
hebrew text, leaving just the consenants?
i.e., given something like בָָּ֟֟רָא, pipe it through something so that the
output is ברא. The unicode characters U+0591 to U+05C7 ideally
should be stripped. This includes accents, etc.
#! /usr/bin/perl -w
use strict;
use Encode;
while () {
$_ = Encode::decode('utf-8', $_);
s/[\x{0591}-\x{05C7}]//g;
print Encode::encode('utf-8', $_);
}
This works (tested on your example, and on a sample from here:
http://www.mechon-mamre.org/c/ct/c0101.htm).
Celejar
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Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
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Re: blurry fonts (again)
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:31:11 +0100 Florian Kulzer florian.kulzer+deb...@icfo.es wrote: Is it OK if I send you the files off-list (about 500K total)? Sure; please do. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Samba --- Can't see files in konqueror or nautulus
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 20:20:23 +0100, Erik Grootjans wrote: Hi, I have update my samba server with the latest version 3.2.5 on Debian - lenny and i have a problem. I can see the shares (including the Samba shares) from an XP workstation. I can't see any shares on my Linux Debian Box. [...] mount -t smbfs -o password= //Enterprise/Fotos /var/mnt2 cp -rv /var/mnt2/* /var/Fotos this works ! But if i do a smbtree -b I get nothing Can anybody tell me what is changed in samba so the Workgroup is not visuabel from a Linux system, but is still visual from a XP-computer! PS I have done a clean install of Debian Lenny to my laptop. Including Samba. And the same problem overthere nothing in Nautulus. When I use SMB4K I get nothing at first If i search on a hostname The hostname is found, and i can browse it under the tab network So its possible to connect but why can i not see it under Samba Does your Linux client use a firewall (iptables) to restrict access? Maybe the responses to the broadcast queries are blocked. -- Regards,| Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Depends overkill, how do you weed out the packages
I have a fresh install of Debian Lenny 503 amd64 via a netinst CDROM. I've
only installed a couple of packages like openbox because I want to run as
lean a desktop I can to try out virtualbox-3.0.
I figured openbox would be enough to handle the GUI needed for
virtualbox-3.0 but after adding the official repository to my sources list
I get a bunch of KDE and audio hits when trying to install VirtualBox.
This doesn't seem right so I am looking for pointers on how to trim down
this list of what I perceive as excessive bloat. Included is the list of
stuff Lenny wants me to install. I've marked some of the things I think I
know what they are which are features I for sure don't want but at the same
time I don't want a busted unusable system by forcibly not installing them.
Any advice or wisdom from those who have gone before me to do battle
against dependencies would be greatly appreciated!
aptitude install virtualbox-3.0
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
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virtualbox-3.0
0 packages upgraded, 215 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not
Re: apt-get does not resume downloading
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 02:01:42 +0700 Sthu Deus sthu.d...@gmail.com wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Celejar: But under some poor network conditions that I, and probably others, have experienced, the current system renders it virtually impossible to download large packages (e.g., openoffice.org-common, wesnoth-data), while resuming would give us at least a fighting chance. Perhaps a user-configurable setting would make the most sense? +1 Wishlist priority bug filed: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=554640 Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Depends overkill, how do you weed out the packages
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:23:37 -0500 vr debian-u...@iotk.net wrote: ... This doesn't seem right so I am looking for pointers on how to trim down this list of what I perceive as excessive bloat. Included is the list of stuff Lenny wants me to install. I've marked some of the things I think I know what they are which are features I for sure don't want but at the same time I don't want a busted unusable system by forcibly not installing them. Any advice or wisdom from those who have gone before me to do battle against dependencies would be greatly appreciated! 'aptitude why some_package' can be useful. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 03:56:48PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites If something doesn't fit in any of the categories, put it under misc utilities. Please don't add what you haven't really used. You can include more than one entrant per category. audio editor: audacity audio player: mpd/mpc cd-ripper: DBMS: postgres desktop environment OR window manager: xmonad development: emacs w/ flymake or eclipse for java when I have to do that. disc burner: e-mail client: mutt file manager: bash (heh) finance: gnucash ftp client: sftp games: Wesnoth image creator/editor: gimp image viewer: display (imagemajick) instant messenger: irssi w/ irssi-plugin-xmpp mathematics: octave misc utilities: too many to count p2p: package manager: aptitude pdf/ps-reader: xpdf spreadsheet: oocalc terminal emulator: rxvt-unicode text editor: emacs video player: mplayer web browser: iceweasel word-processor: emacs for latex, oowriter for occasional stuff non-free: SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: anything dying/dead: anything deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): the uncelebrated random user that sends in the one-line patch to fix their personally most annoying bug. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: blurry fonts (again)
[Putting it back on list, since I assume that you only sent the files privately to me due to their size.] On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:34:26 +0100 Florian Kulzer florian.kulzer +deb...@icfo.es wrote: On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 16:14:14 -0500, Celejar wrote: On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:31:11 +0100 Florian Kulzer florian.kulzer+deb...@icfo.es wrote: Is it OK if I send you the files off-list (about 500K total)? Sure; please do. Celejar The files are attached; I am curious to find out whether the fonts chosen by my system resulted in correct Hebrew typesetting. I'm no font / typography expert, but they look pretty good; they certainly aren't mangled and overlapping as mine are. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: What's best way to use Debian w/o my laptop? Flash + union?
No, those etherwake packets are not IP packets, they're raw ethernet packets and are hence not routable over the internet: you can only send them from a machine on the same physical ethernet network. I agree. But there are other tools that send the magic packet as UDP. That way you can send the packet to a local subnet broadcast address and still have the machine wake up. Interesting. Do you have more info about that? You can check out the Wikipedia article on WOL. If you want a more technical reference check out the AMD whitepaper linked in the article. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Depends overkill, how do you weed out the packages
On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 04:23:37PM -0500, vr wrote: I have a fresh install of Debian Lenny 503 amd64 via a netinst CDROM. I've only installed a couple of packages like openbox because I want to run as lean a desktop I can to try out virtualbox-3.0. I figured openbox would be enough to handle the GUI needed for virtualbox-3.0 but after adding the official repository to my sources list I get a bunch of KDE and audio hits when trying to install VirtualBox. This doesn't seem right so I am looking for pointers on how to trim down this list of what I perceive as excessive bloat. without looking closely at the actual dependencies of what you are installing, have you looked at the -R option to aptitude? There are configuration items to coincide as well. Basically, it prevents the automatic installation of Recommends packages. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
what's your favourite FLOSS?
Here we go. audio editor: audacity, xcfa audio player: amarok cd-ripper: k3b, xcfa DBMS: sqlite desktop environment OR window manager: kde4 (despite, well, you know...) development: disc burner: k3b e-mail client: icedove/thunderbird file manager: dolphin finance: ftp client: filezilla games: wesnoth games (kid): smc, supertuxkart image creator/editor: digikam, gimp, hugin image viewer: digikam instant messenger: mathematics: misc utilities: sudo, sed, htop, ssh, rsync p2p: ktorrent package manager: aptitude pdf/ps-reader: okular spreadsheet: OooCalc terminal emulator: yakuake text editor: kate, vim video player: vlc, smplayer web browser: iceweasel/firefox word-processor: Ooowriter non-free: skype, VirtualBox (Sun version) video editor: avidemux, openmovieeditor, blender (not strictly for video, but works great) education: gcompris, childsplay, skolelinux connection manager: wicd (or goes in misc) backup: backintime, clonezilla (based on Debian) (they can go in misc too) SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: lumiera http://lumiera.org/, Thunderbird3 anything dying/dead: anything deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): Linux kernel, Debian any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): FSF, Linux Foundation, Skolelinux, Canonical, all those who push forward FOSS and Linux any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): Christian Marillat, Theodore T'so, every single Debian developer, Francis Muguet who died recently http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Muguet (not a developer, but he sure did a lot for FOSS). anything Linux related deserving booos: mono, [silver|moon]light, flash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:56:48 +0200 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe tshep...@gmail.com shared this with us all: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites If something doesn't fit in any of the categories, put it under misc utilities. Please don't add what you haven't really used. You can include more than one entrant per category. audio player: Totem desktop environment OR window manager: FVWM disc burner: K3B e-mail client: Claws-mail file manager: Midnight Commander image creator/editor: The Gimp image viewer: GQView mathematics: LyX misc utilities: package manager: Aptitude - Apt - Synaptics pdf/ps-reader: Xpdf - Okular spreadsheet: OpenOffice.org terminal emulator: Xterm text editor: Gedit video player: Totem web browser: Iceweasel word-processor: LyX non-free: SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: anything dying/dead: anything deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): Debian - Gnu any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 . If thou are a master, be sometimes blind; if a servant, sometimes deaf. ...Thomas Fuller . Debian GNU/Linux - just the best way to create magic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
Andrew Sackville-West wrote at 2009-11-05 15:33 -0600: On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 03:56:48PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): the uncelebrated random user that sends in the one-line patch to fix their personally most annoying bug. Indeed! :) +1 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: blurry fonts (again)
On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 16:40:06 -0500, Celejar wrote: On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:34:26 +0100 Florian Kulzer wrote: [ I sent test files to Celejar off-list. ] The files are attached; I am curious to find out whether the fonts chosen by my system resulted in correct Hebrew typesetting. I'm no font / typography expert, but they look pretty good; they certainly aren't mangled and overlapping as mine are. OK, so let's recap: You print the Hebrew Wikipedia homepage with print to file in iceweasel. You get a PDF with misaligned Hebrew characters (kerning seems to be off) and this font information: name type emb sub uni object ID - --- --- --- - FrankRuehlCLMType 1yes no yes 5 0 FrankRuehlCLMType 1yes no yes 7 0 BitstreamVeraSerif CID TrueType yes no yes 37 0 I do the same thing and I get a PDF with properly aligned Hebrew characters and this font information: name type emb sub uni object ID - --- --- --- - TimesNewRomanBoldCID TrueType yes no yes 5 0 TimesNewRomanCID TrueType yes no yes 7 0 DejaVuSans CID TrueType yes no yes 38 0 I checked my good PDF with pdfedit and the Hebrew characters are indeed typeset in TimesNewRoman and TimesNewRomanBold. DejaVuSans is used only for the extra information in headers and footers (URL, page number, date, time). Your bad PDF uses the FrankRuehlCLM font for the Hebrew text and BitstreamVeraSerif for headers and footers. I think there could be a problem with the FrankRuehlCLM font (package culmus) or pango has a bug with Type 1 fonts. You could try to downgrade libpango1.0-0 and friends to their Lenny versions (provided that this does not break anything else on your system, of course) or you could remove the culmus package so that icewesel is forced to use e.g. the DejaVuSerif font for Hebrew passages. (The DejaVu fonts are extended versions of their BitstreamVera ancestors; they include Hebrew charcters.) -- Regards,| Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Slow booting
Kamil Kułaga teodoz...@gmail.com writes: After init of soundcard and before swap activation i have 90 seconds hole. Is it normal? Can I configure kernel to somewhat avoid this? Unfortunately, I think adding a large swap partition (yours is 6GB) can be a slow operation under Linux. Google for slow swapon and you'll see several complaints. One simple solution might be to try running swapon in the background in your startup scripts. That's what I do on my (Ubuntu) laptop (which is frequently rebooted and would pause for a significant amount of time waiting on its 3GB swap file otherwise). Note that, on a Lenny installation, swapon is run twice, in /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh and in /etc/init.d/mountall.sh, so make sure you make the change in the right place. -- Kevin buhr+deb...@asaurus.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
External HDD drive with ext4 mount only as root
Hello list, I'm just salvaged a laptop HDD, put it on a USB case, and formatted with ext4. But when I plug it on, it mounts only with root permissions. USB Flash drives mounts correctly here. I'm not willing to put a line on fstab, as this HDD will be used on several different machines. How can I mount it as my user? I'm using kde4 on sid. dmesg output: usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 8 usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=152d, idProduct=2339 usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=5 usb 1-1: Product: USB to ATA/ATAPI Bridge usb 1-1: Manufacturer: JMicron usb 1-1: SerialNumber: 83E8925A4FFF usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice scsi17 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices usb-storage: device found at 8 usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning usb-storage: device scan complete scsi 17:0:0:0: Direct-Access FUJITSU MHZ2250BJ FFS G2 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 CCS sd 17:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 sd 17:0:0:0: [sdb] 488397168 512-byte logical blocks: (250 GB/232 GiB) sd 17:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off sd 17:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 38 00 00 sd 17:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through sd 17:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through sdb: sdb1 sd 17:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through sd 17:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk EXT4-fs (sdb1): barriers enabled kjournald2 starting: pid 23822, dev sdb1:8, commit interval 5 seconds EXT4-fs (sdb1): internal journal on sdb1:8 EXT4-fs (sdb1): delayed allocation enabled EXT4-fs: file extents enabled EXT4-fs: mballoc enabled EXT4-fs (sdb1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode /media/.hal-mtab: /dev/sdb1 10000 ext4nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal /media/nostromo Ivan Marin Laboratório de Hidráulica Computacional - LHC Departamento de Hidráulica e Saneamento - SHS Escola de Engenharia de São Carlos - EESC Universidade de São Paulo - USP http://albatroz.shs.eesc.usp.br +55 16 3373 8270
Re: A laptop installation challenge
AG computing.acco...@googlemail.com writes: On one disk I found something that booted into the grub prompt. I did some reading up on grub and some basic commands. I didn't get very far - it reports back that there is an ext2fs loaded on /dev/hda1 which I'm assuming was root, although I am sure that when I partitioned the drive today I selected ext3. That's to be expected. Ext3 filesystems are basically ext2 filesystems with a journal. Many tools will recognize them as ext2 filesystems, and they can even be mounted, read, and written by pre-ext3 Linux kernels as if they were ext2 filesystems. And Andrew is right. If you've got a bootable GRUB disk, then you need to try that first. You didn't say what GRUB commands you tried, but did you try something like this: root (hd0,0) ls ## If this fails, try (hd0,1) or (hd0,2) until ls gives you what ## looks like your newly installed Debian root filesystem. kernel /boot/vmlinuz-xx.yy.zz-aa-generic root=/dev/hda1 initrd /boot/initrd.img-xx.yy.zz-aa-generic boot For the kernel and initrd file names, you can use TAB to complete the filenames (or the GRUB ls command to poke around until you find the right names). The root=/dev/hda1 option might not be necessary. Try with and without it. -- Kevin buhr+deb...@asaurus.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OT: strip hebrew vowels and accents from utf-8 text
On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 04:00:59PM -0500, Celejar wrote:
Can anyone suggest a simple way to strip vowels out of utf-8 encoded
hebrew text, leaving just the consenants?
#! /usr/bin/perl -w
use strict;
use Encode;
while () {
$_ = Encode::decode('utf-8', $_);
s/[\x{0591}-\x{05C7}]//g;
print Encode::encode('utf-8', $_);
}
Perfect. Thanks, muchly.
David
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For the eyes of the LORD range throughout the earth to
strengthen those whose hearts are fully committed to him.
2 Chronicles 16:9a
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Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:56:48 +0200 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe tshep...@gmail.com wrote: ... audio editor: audio player: [g]mplayer cd-ripper: DBMS: desktop environment OR window manager: xfce[4] development: perl disc burner: e-mail client: sylpheed file manager: mc finance: ftp client: ncftp games: wesnoth image creator/editor: image viewer: mirage instant messenger: xchat, gajim mathematics: misc utilities: recoll, rsnapshot, rdiff-backup p2p: package manager: aptitude pdf/ps-reader: evince spreadsheet: terminal emulator: xfce-terminal text editor: geany, bluefish, mousepad, vi video player: [g]mplayer web browser: iceweasel, links2 word-processor: oowriter non-free: Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: blurry fonts (again)
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 00:03:39 +0100 Florian Kulzer florian.kulzer+deb...@icfo.es wrote: ... OK, so let's recap: You print the Hebrew Wikipedia homepage with print to file in iceweasel. You get a PDF with misaligned Hebrew characters (kerning seems to be off) and this font information: name type emb sub uni object ID - --- --- --- - FrankRuehlCLMType 1yes no yes 5 0 FrankRuehlCLMType 1yes no yes 7 0 BitstreamVeraSerif CID TrueType yes no yes 37 0 I do the same thing and I get a PDF with properly aligned Hebrew characters and this font information: name type emb sub uni object ID - --- --- --- - TimesNewRomanBoldCID TrueType yes no yes 5 0 TimesNewRomanCID TrueType yes no yes 7 0 DejaVuSans CID TrueType yes no yes 38 0 I checked my good PDF with pdfedit and the Hebrew characters are indeed typeset in TimesNewRoman and TimesNewRomanBold. DejaVuSans is used only for the extra information in headers and footers (URL, page number, date, time). Your bad PDF uses the FrankRuehlCLM font for the Hebrew text and BitstreamVeraSerif for headers and footers. I think there could be a problem with the FrankRuehlCLM font (package culmus) or pango has a bug with Type 1 fonts. You could try to downgrade libpango1.0-0 and friends to their Lenny versions (provided that this does not break anything else on your system, of course) or you could remove the culmus package so that icewesel is forced to use e.g. the DejaVuSerif font for Hebrew passages. (The DejaVu fonts are extended versions of their BitstreamVera ancestors; they include Hebrew charcters.) Okay. So I tried removing culmus, and now a reasonably legible and normal looking, if not particularly attractive (although that may be purely subjective, and in the eye of the beholder) PDF is generated, for which pdffonts shows: name type emb sub uni object ID - --- --- --- - FreeSerifBoldCID TrueType yes no yes 5 0 FreeSerifCID TrueType yes no yes 7 0 BitstreamVeraSerif CID TrueType yes no yes 35 0 I tried using fc-match on these font names, as you showed me in our first iteration of this thread, but I'm a bit confused by the output: ~$ fc-match FreeSerif FreeSerif.ttf: FreeSerif Mittel This seems to indicate that FreeSerif comes from the FreeSerif.ttf file, which is from the ttf-freefont package. OTOH: ~$ fc-match FreeSerifBold Vera.ttf: Bitstream Vera Sans Roman Does this mean that FreeSerifBold is in Vera.ttf and not in ttf-freefont? But: ~$ dpkg -L ttf-freefont | grep FreeSerif /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeSerifItalic.ttf /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeSerifBoldItalic.ttf /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeSerif.ttf /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeSerifBold.ttf I find all this stuff fairly baffling. Regarding your other suggestion about downgrading libpango, trying to do that requires removing some packages that are important to me, or doing a fairly significant looking downgrade of a number of packages, so I'm going to hold off on that, at least for now. Thanks much! Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: apt-get does not resume downloading
On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 02:00:59AM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Boyd: It does resume downloading, just not in the middle of a single file. (It will only download files that are missing.) Resuming in the middle of a file has shown to be problematic and is not supported by all the mirrors anyway. Resuming in the middle of a file results in a file with a bad checksum more often than restarting the file entirely. I have downloaded one package with wget to partial dir. - why it did not install it but rather has started downloading again? Why not just download it (using wget -c, for e.g.) then when you have it all downloaded, put it it in /var/cache/apt/archives then apt-get install packagename should work. Can I check its integrity (of the downloaded by wget file) by issuing apt-get install package You may not need to, at least I haven't noticed any issues with above method. But if you want to, you could grab the md5 file from the repository. -- Chris. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Serious clock problem
On Wednesday 04 November 2009 17:53:03 FTALOVER wrote: Hi all, I'm running VMW ESXi 3i (3.5.0) on an 4 CPUs DELL Poweredge 1950. This machine is hosting 8 virtual machines, 5 running Etch and 3 running Lenny. All guests were running fine until I upgraded the kernel to linux-image-2.6.26-2-686_2.6.26-19 in the 3 boxes running Lenny. Now those boxes are repeatedly freezing because the system clock seems to stall. Forcing the kernel to use acpi_pm as clocksource instead of TSC and disabling TSC doesn't seems to help. So, does anybody have any suggestion on how to fix this? I've got a Dell Latitude D630 that does this in lenny, I suspect it's a kernel bug, since the hardware was stable under etch. I got some relief by using clocksource=acpi_pm noapic as kernel arguments at boot-time, but it's done it one time since then -- sounds like you tried something similar. I can't find the bug-report thread I was looking at just now, but if you google the error messages, you can find a bit of mailing-list traffic (mostly Ubuntu), and some discussion of work-arounds, mostly involving kernel arguments. Sorry this isn't more helpful... -- A. -- Andrew Reid / rei...@bellatlantic.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Rate-limiting based on packets per second?
I've read the iptables man page, but I'm not really sure I understand how to rate-limit packets per second globally. What I'm trying to do is create a rule that would limit my overall inbound flows to =200 packets per second- I don't care about the size, I just want to limit the number of packets. I'm thinking some kind of hashlimit on the inbound chain is what I need, but I can't find any practical examples that show how to do this. -- Oh, look: rocks! -- Doctor Who, Destiny of the Daleks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Permissions for /dev/fuse changing at boot
Every time my system reboots, ownership of /dev/fuse is changed from root.fuse to root.root. How can I make the changes permanent, so that users in the fuse group have access to the device across reboots? -- Oh, look: rocks! -- Doctor Who, Destiny of the Daleks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
bug - Setting up php5-idn (1.2b-5.3)
Hi all, I am getting a warning show up as follows: Setting up php5-idn (1.2b-5.3) ... *** WARNING: ucf was run from a maintainer script that uses debconf, but the script did not pass --debconf-ok to ucf. The maintainer script should be fixed to not stop debconf before calling ucf, and pass it this parameter. For now, ucf will revert to using old-style, non-debconf prompting. Ugh! Please inform the package maintainer about this problem. Creating config file /etc/php5/conf.d/idn.ini with new version when installing the follwing components: apt-get install apache2 apache2-doc apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils libexpat1 libapache2-mod-php5 php5-common php5-gd php5-idn php-pear php5-imap php5-mcrypt php5-mhash php5-mysql php5-sqlite php5-xmlrpc php5-xsl php5-curl Can someone please update me as to the issues/resolution that yoou may have. Is there an update or bug fix? thanks all. Regards, Blair Cooper kiw...@yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Lost my window manager
Debian testing amd64, fresh install, idiot newbie user four days old. I had everything pretty much working and configured except for my bluetooth mouse. Finally I succeeded in getting it working, although I cannot tell you how. I had installed Blueman, but it couldn't get the mouse paired either. But then suddenly I had two bluetooth icons in my Gnome panel. Using System Monitor I killed two bluetooth devices - that is, killing the first one changed nothing but killing the second one deleted one of the bluetooth icons. Afterward I was able to get a GUI dialog box that found the mouse. And this time I had a Next and a Back button. I was finally able to get the mouse working when I selected connect but without pairing. However, the mouse was not working properly. The pointer moved around, but left clicking did not work. I could select things only by right-clicking on them. After poking around for a while and not finding a solution I decided to reboot. When X and Gnome came up I got a popup asking if I wanted to grant permission to the bluetooth mouse. I said Yes, and the mouse then worked properly; that is, a left click worked as a left click. Unfortunately, the entire Gnome panel is gone. Clicking on where things are supposed to be in the panel does nothing. Windows have no title bar or icons in the corner to minimize or maximize them The keyboard works, but I cannot launch a terminal because I have forgotten the secret keyboard shortcut to launch a terminal. The only way I know how to do it is Applications Accessories Terminal, but there is no panel so I can't click on Appplications. I did get to a command line with Ctrl-Alt-F1, but I was unable to do anything constructive for failure to know what the window manager is called or how to restore it. I also note that, although I logged in as myself, some of my display preferences were not honored. For example, I had Gnome set not to display any icons at all on the dekstop. I wanted a dekstop utterly devoid of anything except the Gnome panel. However, now all the items contained in the Desktop folder appear on the screen. I am just about to give up and go back to Ubuntu. I had said at the outset of my foray into Debian that I would give it a week, but it has become apparent that I do not have the technical expertise to run Debian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Permissions for /dev/fuse changing at boot
In 20091106040753.gp3...@penguin.codegnome.org, Todd A. Jacobs wrote: Every time my system reboots, ownership of /dev/fuse is changed from root.fuse to root.root. How can I make the changes permanent, so that users in the fuse group have access to the device across reboots? Udev rule, probably. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: bug - Setting up php5-idn (1.2b-5.3)
In 350858.31469...@web33306.mail.mud.yahoo.com, kiw...@yahoo.com wrote: Setting up php5-idn (1.2b-5.3) ... *** WARNING: ucf was run from a maintainer script that uses debconf, but the script did not pass --debconf-ok to ucf. The maintainer script should be fixed to not stop debconf before calling ucf, and pass it this parameter. For now, ucf will revert to using old-style, non-debconf prompting. Ugh! Please inform the package maintainer about this problem. Creating config file /etc/php5/conf.d/idn.ini with new version Can someone please update me as to the issues/resolution that yoou may have. Is there an update or bug fix? I'm sure you can use the web interface on bugs.debian.org yourself. If there's not a bug for this issue on the package, I'd be much obliged if you'd file one by using reportbug or the bug report email address. If you'd like to be notified about all activity on a bug, you can subscribe to email updates by sending a subscription request to a special address based on the bug number; there will also be a mailto: link exposed on the web interface one the bug appears there. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Permissions for /dev/fuse changing at boot
2009/11/6 Todd A. Jacobs nos...@codegnome.org: Every time my system reboots, ownership of /dev/fuse is changed from root.fuse to root.root. How can I make the changes permanent, so that users in the fuse group have access to the device across reboots? -- I suggest to wait for the bugs correction to income to unstable or testing (depending on your installation): http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=473545 -- enzotib -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lost my window manager
John Jason Jordan: [snip bluetooth mouse problems] Sorry, cannot comment on that. Unfortunately, the entire Gnome panel is gone. Clicking on where things are supposed to be in the panel does nothing. Is the panel gone or is it empty? Windows have no title bar or icons in the corner to minimize or maximize them The keyboard works, but I cannot launch a terminal because I have forgotten the secret keyboard shortcut to launch a terminal. Alt-F2 should spawn a Run dialog. Use that to run the missing programs: metacity gnome-panel (if it is completely gone) The only way I know how to do it is Applications Accessories Terminal, but there is no panel so I can't click on Appplications. I did get to a command line with Ctrl-Alt-F1, but I was unable to do anything constructive for failure to know what the window manager is called or how to restore it. That wouldn't have worked anyway, since you have to start X programs in an X environment. I also note that, although I logged in as myself, some of my display preferences were not honored. For example, I had Gnome set not to display any icons at all on the dekstop. I wanted a dekstop utterly devoid of anything except the Gnome panel. However, now all the items contained in the Desktop folder appear on the screen. Did you look for strange messages in /var/log/syslog? It appears something is seriously broken. Obviously, what you experienced shouldn't happen. I am just about to give up and go back to Ubuntu. I had said at the outset of my foray into Debian that I would give it a week, but it has become apparent that I do not have the technical expertise to run Debian. The symptoms you describe shouldn't happen in either Debian or Ubuntu. And if they happen (and you don't know how to work around them), you're screwed with both distros. :-/ I think I would try moving the Gnome-related files (.gnome2/, .gnome2_private) in my $HOME out of the way and cnfigure it from scratch. J. -- Whenever I hear the word 'art' I reach for my visa card. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Schakelen tussen library-versies (bij backport)
Paul van der Vlis wrote: Geert Stappers schreef: Op 20091104 om 16:30 schreef Paul van der Vlis: Maar hoe zorg ik er toch voor dat die libwxgtk2.8-dev gebruikt wordt? Mijn gevoel zegt: Er wordt wel opnieuw `make` afgetrapt, maar `./configure` niet. p...@server2:~/sources/libwx-perl/libwx-perl-0.93$ ./configure bash: ./configure: Bestand of map bestaat niet Ik doe vast iets fout. Het is een perl package. Het handmatig proces is dan (in dit geval): perl Makefile.PL make Als dit waar is, dan is er ook iets fout in dit package volgens mij. Want je hoort niet eerst ./configure te hoeven draaien. Ik vermoed dat als eenmaal het deel 'perl Makefile.PL' plaats heeft gevonden, je eerst ./debian/rules clean moet doen nadat je de ontwikkelomgeving hebt aangepast. -- Matijs signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Schakelen tussen library-versies (bij backport)
Matijs van Zuijlen schreef: Paul van der Vlis wrote: Geert Stappers schreef: Op 20091104 om 16:30 schreef Paul van der Vlis: Maar hoe zorg ik er toch voor dat die libwxgtk2.8-dev gebruikt wordt? Mijn gevoel zegt: Er wordt wel opnieuw `make` afgetrapt, maar `./configure` niet. p...@server2:~/sources/libwx-perl/libwx-perl-0.93$ ./configure bash: ./configure: Bestand of map bestaat niet Ik doe vast iets fout. Het is een perl package. Het handmatig proces is dan (in dit geval): perl Makefile.PL make Als dit waar is, dan is er ook iets fout in dit package volgens mij. Want je hoort niet eerst ./configure te hoeven draaien. Ik vermoed dat als eenmaal het deel 'perl Makefile.PL' plaats heeft gevonden, je eerst ./debian/rules clean moet doen nadat je de ontwikkelomgeving hebt aangepast. Het is me gelukt ;-) Er was een build-depend met libalien-wxwidgets-perl. Dat had ik welliswaar gebackport en volgens mij ook met libwxgtk2.8, maar blijkbaar had ik nog een 2.6 versie geinstalleerd toen het steeds misging met libwx-perl... Iedereen bedankt voor het meedenken. Groet, Paul. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Updaten van keyring voor apt
On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 10:51:37PM +0100, Huub Reuver wrote: , middels een apt-get update. Ik vind het wel een heel vage oplossing, omdat in feite aangegeven is dat de keys niet deugen, zowel debian-keyring en debian-archive-keyring zijn niet aangepast en toch het probleem opgelost schijnt te zijn. Jawel. Maar na een aanpassing van de keyring moet je een 'apt-get update' doen om alles in orde te brengen. Het is namelijk zo dat apt signature files weggooit als die niet verifiëren. Als je dan de nieuwe key installeert, moet je die signatures opnieuw downloaden -- middels een 'apt-get update'. -- The biometric identification system at the gates of the CIA headquarters works because there's a guard with a large gun making sure no one is trying to fool the system. http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/01/biometrics.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
