Re: [ot] gpg caducada
On Thu, Novembre 4, 2010 4:43 pm, Orestes Mas wrote: ~ Caldria veure què t'ha caducat, si la clau principal o la subclau (la que ~ s'usa per signar) ~ ~ Poden tenir caducitats diferents, i a vegades és difícil d'adonar-se de la ~ subclau, perquè queda una mica amagada. ~ ~ 1) Obre un terminal ~ ~ 2) gpg --edit-key ID de la clau o el teu e-mail ~ ~ 3) Si la clau expirada és la primària (com sembla e teu cas, vés al pas 4. ~ Altrament usa l'ordre key per seleccionar la subclau per ID (l'ordre ~ help ~ llista totes les ordres possibles) ~ ~ 4) expire. Segueix les instruccions. ~ ~ 4) save per desar i sortir gràcies orestes, ara només cal tenir la paciència de trobar la paraula secreta; algú tant empanat a qui se li caduquen un parell de keys també pot oblidar-se de l'exactitud de la frase secreta aquí anant fent proves... SAX! ps. no pot ser no que al estar caducada, no em deixi incrementar l'expire -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5d9304dc212812f639fc65282fbdafea.squir...@correo.nodo50.org
Re: [ot] gpg caducada
xavi writes: la curiositat malsana m'ha pogut, he vist les capçaleres del teu mail i... User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) lluis, que mutt et semblava massa poc friki :)? X_D Be, tot i que estava d'allo mes content amb el mutt, el emacs em dona un nivell d'integracio entre correu, programacio i tractament de textos que fins ara era inaudit :) Fins i tot hi tinc l'agenda! XD apa! -- And it's much the same thing with knowledge, for whenever you learn something new, the whole world becomes that much richer. -- The Princess of Pure Reason, as told by Norton Juster in The Phantom Tollbooth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/871v702e1e@ginnungagap.bsc.es
Re: [ot] gpg caducada
5/11/10 @ 12:41 (+0100), thus spake Lluís: xavi writes: la curiositat malsana m'ha pogut, he vist les capçaleres del teu mail i... User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) lluis, que mutt et semblava massa poc friki :)? X_D Be, tot i que estava d'allo mes content amb el mutt, el emacs em dona un nivell d'integracio entre correu, programacio i tractament de textos que fins ara era inaudit :) Jo últimament estic tot el dia a l'emacs i em vaig estar plantejant passar-me al gnus, però finalment em va fer mandra. Saps si és factible utilitzar gnus i mutt amb les mateixes bústies de correu tipus mbox? Salut. Fins i tot hi tinc l'agenda! XD apa! -- And it's much the same thing with knowledge, for whenever you learn something new, the whole world becomes that much richer. -- The Princess of Pure Reason, as told by Norton Juster in The Phantom Tollbooth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/871v702e1e@ginnungagap.bsc.es -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101105121223.ga15...@doriath.local
Re: [ot] gpg caducada
Ernest Adrogué writes: Jo últimament estic tot el dia a l'emacs i em vaig estar plantejant passar-me al gnus, però finalment em va fer mandra. Saps si és factible utilitzar gnus i mutt amb les mateixes bústies de correu tipus mbox? Be, gnus te suport per mbox (i maildir i tants d'altres), pero jo l'utilitzo com a client imap d'un mirror local, i et puc assegurar que es el mes rapid que he vist mai (tinc busties amb varis milers de missatges), i mira que he provat gairebe tots els clients de correu... A mes a mes, la forma en que gnus gestiona els missatges es just el que feia temps anava buscant. apa! -- And it's much the same thing with knowledge, for whenever you learn something new, the whole world becomes that much richer. -- The Princess of Pure Reason, as told by Norton Juster in The Phantom Tollbooth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87wros0wf6@ginnungagap.bsc.es
Re: [ot] gpg caducada
On Fri, Novembre 5, 2010 10:23 am, x...@nodo50.org wrote: ~ algú tant empanat a qui se li caduquen un parell de keys també ~ pot oblidar-se de l'exactitud de la frase secreta ~ ~ aquí anant fent proves... hola, ara estic jugant amb nasty i rephrase, el primer fa coses rares amb l'entrada per fitxer; depèn d'on estigui col·locada l'única lletra de phrase d'una nova creada, no la localitza be... el rephrase no està mal si saps que la contrasenya és segura però tens dubtes de si es SegurA o variants de cada un dels caràcters agraeixo el coneixement dels programes a un/a que sé que estaria per la llista, de qui no dic nick, perquè m'ha confessat que també n'ha perdut alguna... SAX! ps. xab membre de l'empanat debian user's club -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/128575500f53e55c6ae11e3f411bbde8.squir...@correo.nodo50.org
Re: [ot] gpg caducada (arreglat?)
On Fri, Novembre 5, 2010 5:46 pm, x...@nodo50.org wrote: ~ On Fri, Novembre 5, 2010 12:58 pm, Orestes Mas wrote: ~ ~ ~ Ah! això no ho deies al teu missatge inicial. Així la cosa canvia ~ ~ notablement. (això li he enviat només a l'orestes) ~ hola, ~ el tema va començar al kmail, que em donava errors, i vaig detectar que ~ estava caducada, i vaig enviar la carta d'ahir. avui, intentant ~ manipular-la amb el manament de expire, m'he adonat que no la recordo, o ~ algo passa... ~ ~ gràcies! ja l'he recuperat, per memòria i paciència (pensava que era més llarga :D) ara que em diu això, tot be no? amb el kmail torna a funcionar!! x...@tama:~$ gpg --fingerprint /home/xabbax/.gnupg/pubring.gpg --- pub 1024D/1491B326 2009-10-31 [expires: 2012-11-04] Key fingerprint = 6F4E EF50 DE35 9FA7 8531 47BC 596D C927 1491 B326 uid nom cognom (kick) n...@servei.org sub 4096g/D1768B54 2009-10-31 [expires: 2012-11-04] l'he de tornar a enviar?? amb: $ gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --send-key 1491B326 salut! i gràcies! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/bfd5d5be0397dffe821abe5cd062d768.squir...@correo.nodo50.org
Re: [ot] gpg caducada (arreglat?)
El 5 de novembre de 2010 19:53, Orestes Mas ores...@tsc.upc.edu ha escrit: De res, estic content d'haver pogut ser útil. A més utilitzes programari KDE, amb la qual cosa la meva felicitat és doble :-) +1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinwc_3hryjtrm5lo9ob3sqotb6npqrswxt=a...@mail.gmail.com
Beeeeeeep système à l'extinction.
Bonjour, Malgré la fréquence du sujet, je ne trouve pas de réponse convenant à mon problème. Un bip système sort de mon portable à chaque extinction, même si j'ai arrêté mon environnement graphique avant. J'ai blacklisté pcspkr (et $ lsmod | grep pcs ne renvoie rien...). Je pensais aussi ne pas avoir de carte pcmcia puisque lspcmcia me renvoie rien, mais un # rmmod pcmcia me renvoie quand même : ERROR: Module pcmcia is in use by b43,ssb J'ai en effet une carte broadcom : 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01) Du coup, est-ce que vous pensez que c'est ça, l'origine du beep ? Devrais-je enlever les modules avant l'extinction de mon ordi ? si oui, comment le faire proprement ? Merci d'avance. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1288952732.2922.13.ca...@acid-cola.home
Re: Beeeeeeep système à l'extinction.
Il s'agit sûrement du beep système. Tu peux le désactiver via le mixer de ta config (alsa, pulseaudio) -- David DEMONCHY _Fusco fusco@gmail.com http://fusco.dacano.org/ -- Le 5 novembre 2010 11:25, jour jour.nu...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour, Malgré la fréquence du sujet, je ne trouve pas de réponse convenant à mon problème. Un bip système sort de mon portable à chaque extinction, même si j'ai arrêté mon environnement graphique avant. J'ai blacklisté pcspkr (et $ lsmod | grep pcs ne renvoie rien...). Je pensais aussi ne pas avoir de carte pcmcia puisque lspcmcia me renvoie rien, mais un # rmmod pcmcia me renvoie quand même : ERROR: Module pcmcia is in use by b43,ssb J'ai en effet une carte broadcom : 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01) Du coup, est-ce que vous pensez que c'est ça, l'origine du beep ? Devrais-je enlever les modules avant l'extinction de mon ordi ? si oui, comment le faire proprement ? Merci d'avance. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1288952732.2922.13.ca...@acid-cola.home -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=syzfyus5s5ypb7lxbuc58wtkw1qufdpkma...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Beeeeeeep système à l'extinction.
Non, je ne crois pas, dans alsamixer, PC beep est à 0. Le vendredi 05 novembre 2010 à 12:37 +0100, fusco.spv a écrit : Il s'agit sûrement du beep système. Tu peux le désactiver via le mixer de ta config (alsa, pulseaudio) -- David DEMONCHY _Fusco fusco@gmail.com http://fusco.dacano.org/ -- Le 5 novembre 2010 11:25, jour jour.nu...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour, Malgré la fréquence du sujet, je ne trouve pas de réponse convenant à mon problème. Un bip système sort de mon portable à chaque extinction, même si j'ai arrêté mon environnement graphique avant. J'ai blacklisté pcspkr (et $ lsmod | grep pcs ne renvoie rien...). Je pensais aussi ne pas avoir de carte pcmcia puisque lspcmcia me renvoie rien, mais un # rmmod pcmcia me renvoie quand même : ERROR: Module pcmcia is in use by b43,ssb J'ai en effet une carte broadcom : 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01) Du coup, est-ce que vous pensez que c'est ça, l'origine du beep ? Devrais-je enlever les modules avant l'extinction de mon ordi ? si oui, comment le faire proprement ? Merci d'avance. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1288952732.2922.13.ca...@acid-cola.home -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1288997371.2603.3.ca...@acid-cola.home
Re: Sistema de Control de auditorias
El Thu, 04 Nov 2010 23:00:03 -0430, Dámaso Payares escribió: (abre un nuevo hilo) Alguien conoce un Sistema de Control de Auditorías, que tenga cierta similitud a autoaudit (planeación de auditorias, control y generación de reportes). No conozco autoaudit :-?, pero si das más detalles del tipo de auditoría que necesitas hacer seguro que alguien te puede recomendar alguna alternativa. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.07.37...@gmail.com
Re: OT.- Alternativa MS Project
El Thu, 04 Nov 2010 19:01:56 -0600, Carlos Agustín L. Avila escribió: Sucede que estoy diseñando un aplicativo (Java) en el que necesito integrar un modulo que me permita definir actividades así como el MS Project, pero dicha aplicación será vía Web. La pregunta es ¿si conocen una solución open source que pueda integrar a mi aplicación? Gracias. GanttProject parece que usa java :-?: http://www.ganttproject.biz/ Otras alternativas podrían ser OpenProj¹, Taskjuggler² o Planner³, ya para sistemas de escritorio. ¹http://www.serena.com/products/openproj ²http://www.taskjuggler.org ³http://live.gnome.org/Planner Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.07.44...@gmail.com
Re: OT.- Alternativa MS Project
El 05/11/10 05:56, Carlos Agustín L. Avila escribió: El día 4 de noviembre de 2010 20:00, Joram Diaz joram.diaz.garr...@gmail.com escribió: Buenas Noches Podrías probar Redmine yo lo utilizo en el trabajo y es muy bueno, espero te sirva. Saludos Enviado desde Jetfire El 05-11-2010, a las 18:15, German Cardozogcard...@gmail.com escribió: Muy Buenas Noches: Conozco un software libre llamado Web2Project que está desarrollado como LAMP, y sirve precisamente para la administración de proyectos. Para hacer una revisión pudieras empezar probarlo. Creo que en su página Web tienen un demo. Saludos, Germán Cardozo Chirinos ~ carpe diem ~ On Nov 4, 2010 8:47 PM, Carlos Agustín L. Avilacagusti...@gmail.com wrote: El día 4 de noviembre de 2010 19:05, Gonzalo Rivero fishfromsa...@gmail.com escribió: El jue, 04-11-2010 a las 19:01 -0600, Carlos Agustín L. Avila escribió: Hola a todos. Sucede... ¿lo puedo incorporar a mi sistema? Vamos yo se que no todo pero las clases que gestionen las actividades; asignación de recursos; tiempos; etc. Gracias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsub... Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktintwolbhwuqehpm0cyzcmyyp1anmezhshu...@mail.gmail.com Los voy a probar, pero lo necesito en Java. Gracias Hi, Yo también uso redmine, funcional y completo. El único problema que le veo es que funciona con ruby on rails y es un infierno el mantener los paquetes y las 'gemas' en depende que sistema operativo. Por otra parte, creo (repito, creo) que tiene un planificador al estilo de planner. Saludos, - Jose Mari - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd3bc8e.20...@uji.es
Re: Sistema de Control de auditorias
2010/11/5 Dámaso Payares lordel...@gmail.com: Buenas noches, Alguien conoce un Sistema de Control de Auditorías, que tenga cierta similitud a autoaudit (planeación de auditorias, control y generación de reportes). Saludos Autoaudit es algo como Nessus, OpenVAS o SATAN? -- Marc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=mko-nb+lsgn3od5mesexxzkt4kvtxzdfww...@mail.gmail.com
Mostrar archivos de respaldo (~) en el escritorio (GNOME)
Hola, ¿Sabéis si hay alguna forma de mostrar los archivos de respaldo (p. ej., archivo.txt~) en el escritorio? Examinando el directorio ~/Desktop desde nautilus se ven pero no en el propio escritorio. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.11.05...@gmail.com
Re: problemas con server sftp
Buenas Siguiendo con el hilo estoy descubriendo que puede estar pasando, pero como nunca me encontre con el problema no se donde puede estar el fallo. Segun pude comprobar no era problema del ldap sino de algo que hace de firewall en la maquina, bloqueando el puerto ssh. Resulta que despues de chequear el firewall comprobe que estaba bien, y comence a hacer pruebas, ya que tengo otro server web que si acepta el ssh. Bien pues resulta que unicamente acepta conexiones ssh desde Ip interna y desde una Ip externa en concreto. Estuve buscando como es posible esto pero no encuentro nada que bloquee las conexiones. Comprobe ya los iptables pero no veo como saber que reacciona ante el intento de intrusion. El server web esta online asi que no hay problemas de consulta desde internet. Que pruebas se os ocurren para saber que esta fallando? Gracias El día 26 de octubre de 2010 00:02, angeld ang...@froga.net escribió: Mon, 25 Oct 2010, deconya: El día 25 de octubre de 2010 16:20, AngelD ang...@froga.net escribió: Estoy teniendo problemas con un server web, desconozco que le pasa pero dejo de funcionar, siendo solo possible conectar por ssh. Las pruevas que hice son: conectar via root: al ssh conecta y al sftp. Si uso el fireftp no funciona. Si conecta por 'ssh' y 'sftp', ¿de quién es el problema?, , redoble, , ¡fireftp!. Seguro? Tengo mis dudas por eso envio a la lista, no falló solo un software de conexion sino varios i el fireftp es supersimple, de ahi el ejemplo. Pero, funciona el ssh y sftp, por lo que podemos deducir que el ssh no falla. resto de usuarios no pueden. Lo conecte con un openldap. Posteo el config de sshd_config a ver si alguien me puede ayudar a arreglar el misterio ¿Cómo lo conectaste con un ldap?, ¿por medio de múdulos pam?, ¿que dicen los logs?. Mirando el auth.log me da esto Oct 25 17:22:30 serverweb sshd[18788]: reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for infolinux.esci.es.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa [10.0.0.10] failed - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT! Oct 25 17:22:35 serverweb sshd[18788]: pam_sm_authenticate: Called Oct 25 17:22:35 serverweb sshd[18788]: pam_sm_authenticate: username = [root] Oct 25 17:22:35 serverweb sshd[18788]: Warning: Using default salt value (undefined in ~/.ecryptfsrc) Oct 25 17:22:35 serverweb sshd[18790]: Error attempting to open [/root/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase] for reading Oct 25 17:22:35 serverweb sshd[18790]: Error attempting to unwrap passphrase from file [/root/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase]; rc = [-5] Oct 25 17:22:35 serverweb sshd[18790]: Error adding passphrase key token to user session keyring; rc = [-5] Oct 25 17:22:35 serverweb sshd[18788]: Accepted password for root from 10.0.0.10 port 58805 ssh2 Oct 25 17:22:35 serverweb sshd[18788]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0) Oct 25 17:24:27 serverweb sshd[18875]: reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for pc.domain.es.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa [10.0.0.10] failed - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT! Ahora es cuando no me entero XDD Alguien con mas batallas me puede ayudar? Este log dice muchas cosas. Por su lado te chilla porque posiblemente estes intentando conectar desde una máquina cuya ip inversa no resuelve correctamente la inversa (esto es el POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT), posiblemente porque salgas por una interfaz que no desees desde dentro de tu red. Por otro lado, intenta usar un sistema de ficheros cifrado a base de [1]ecryptfs, y da algunos errores (¿pueden faltar las credenciales?). Desconozco como funciona este, así que te toca empollar la documentación del mismo. Port 22 Protocol 2 HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key #Privilege Separation is turned on for security UsePrivilegeSeparation yes # Lifetime and size of ephemeral version 1 server key KeyRegenerationInterval 3600 ServerKeyBits 768 # Logging SyslogFacility AUTH LogLevel INFO AuthorizedKeysFile %h/.ssh/authorized_keys # Don't read the user's ~/.rhosts and ~/.shosts files IgnoreRhosts yes # For this to work you will also need host keys in /etc/ssh_known_hosts RhostsRSAAuthentication no # similar for protocol version 2 HostbasedAuthentication no # Uncomment if you don't trust ~/.ssh/known_hosts for RhostsRSAAuthentication #IgnoreUserKnownHosts yes # To enable empty passwords, change to yes (NOT RECOMMENDED) PermitEmptyPasswords no # Change to yes to enable challenge-response passwords (beware issues with # some PAM modules and threads) ChallengeResponseAuthentication no X11Forwarding no X11DisplayOffset 10 PrintMotd no PrintLastLog yes TCPKeepAlive yes #UseLogin no #MaxStartups 10:30:60 #Banner /etc/issue.net # Allow client to pass locale environment variables AcceptEnv LANG LC_* #Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server Subsystem sftp internal-sftp UsePAM yes Aquí usas los módulos pam para autenticar, ¿que dicen los logs?. lo posteo arriba Match
Re: problemas con server sftp
El Fri, 05 Nov 2010 12:43:25 +0100, deconya escribió: Siguiendo con el hilo estoy descubriendo que puede estar pasando, pero como nunca me encontre con el problema no se donde puede estar el fallo. Segun pude comprobar no era problema del ldap sino de algo que hace de firewall en la maquina, bloqueando el puerto ssh. Resulta que despues de chequear el firewall comprobe que estaba bien, y comence a hacer pruebas, ya que tengo otro server web que si acepta el ssh. Bien pues resulta que unicamente acepta conexiones ssh desde Ip interna y desde una Ip externa en concreto. Estuve buscando como es posible esto pero no encuentro nada que bloquee las conexiones. Comprobe ya los iptables pero no veo como saber que reacciona ante el intento de intrusion. Si pones las reglas de iptables que tienes activadas seguro que a alguien se le puede ocurrir alguna idea. Otra forma de ver lo que pasa es revisando el registro (iptables debe enviar los log al /var/log/messages o a algún lado). tcpdump también te podría ayudar. El server web esta online asi que no hay problemas de consulta desde internet. Que pruebas se os ocurren para saber que esta fallando? Ya sabes lo que falla ¿no? :-? Estás bloqueando el puerto ssh desde la conexión de red local. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.12.06...@gmail.com
Re: problemas con server sftp
Buenas Pues veamos no hay reglas iptables Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination fail2ban-ssh tcp -- anywhere anywhere multiport dports ssh fail2ban-apache-overflows tcp -- anywhere anywhere multiport dports www,https fail2ban-apache-multiport tcp -- anywhere anywhere multiport dports www,https fail2ban-ssh-ddos tcp -- anywhere anywhere multiport dports ssh fail2ban-pam-generic tcp -- anywhere anywhere Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain fail2ban-apache-multiport (1 references) target prot opt source destination RETURN all -- anywhere anywhere Chain fail2ban-apache-overflows (1 references) target prot opt source destination RETURN all -- anywhere anywhere Chain fail2ban-pam-generic (1 references) target prot opt source destination RETURN all -- anywhere anywhere Chain fail2ban-ssh (1 references) target prot opt source destination RETURN all -- anywhere anywhere Chain fail2ban-ssh-ddos (1 references) target prot opt source destination RETURN all -- anywhere anywhere solo el fail2ban y ese esta por igual en ambos servidores. Estoy mirando el /var/log/messages pero nada, No se por donde tirar porque no veo para nada donde puede estar el problema Mas pruebas? Un Saludo El día 5 de noviembre de 2010 13:06, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Fri, 05 Nov 2010 12:43:25 +0100, deconya escribió: Siguiendo con el hilo estoy descubriendo que puede estar pasando, pero como nunca me encontre con el problema no se donde puede estar el fallo. Segun pude comprobar no era problema del ldap sino de algo que hace de firewall en la maquina, bloqueando el puerto ssh. Resulta que despues de chequear el firewall comprobe que estaba bien, y comence a hacer pruebas, ya que tengo otro server web que si acepta el ssh. Bien pues resulta que unicamente acepta conexiones ssh desde Ip interna y desde una Ip externa en concreto. Estuve buscando como es posible esto pero no encuentro nada que bloquee las conexiones. Comprobe ya los iptables pero no veo como saber que reacciona ante el intento de intrusion. Si pones las reglas de iptables que tienes activadas seguro que a alguien se le puede ocurrir alguna idea. Otra forma de ver lo que pasa es revisando el registro (iptables debe enviar los log al /var/log/messages o a algún lado). tcpdump también te podría ayudar. El server web esta online asi que no hay problemas de consulta desde internet. Que pruebas se os ocurren para saber que esta fallando? Ya sabes lo que falla ¿no? :-? Estás bloqueando el puerto ssh desde la conexión de red local. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.12.06...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=p5anyf1fb+hzhyyhqk98izg2jimod46wj2...@mail.gmail.com
Re: problemas con server sftp
2010/11/5 deconya elmailperso...@gmail.com: Buenas Pues veamos no hay reglas iptables Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination fail2ban-ssh tcp -- anywhere anywhere multiport dports ssh fail2ban-apache-overflows tcp -- anywhere anywhere multiport dports www,https fail2ban-apache-multiport tcp -- anywhere anywhere multiport dports www,https fail2ban-ssh-ddos tcp -- anywhere anywhere multiport dports ssh fail2ban-pam-generic tcp -- anywhere anywhere Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain fail2ban-apache-multiport (1 references) target prot opt source destination RETURN all -- anywhere anywhere Chain fail2ban-apache-overflows (1 references) target prot opt source destination RETURN all -- anywhere anywhere Chain fail2ban-pam-generic (1 references) target prot opt source destination RETURN all -- anywhere anywhere Chain fail2ban-ssh (1 references) target prot opt source destination RETURN all -- anywhere anywhere Chain fail2ban-ssh-ddos (1 references) target prot opt source destination RETURN all -- anywhere anywhere solo el fail2ban y ese esta por igual en ambos servidores. Estoy mirando el /var/log/messages pero nada, No se por donde tirar porque no veo para nada donde puede estar el problema Mas pruebas? Un Saludo El día 5 de noviembre de 2010 13:06, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Fri, 05 Nov 2010 12:43:25 +0100, deconya escribió: Siguiendo con el hilo estoy descubriendo que puede estar pasando, pero como nunca me encontre con el problema no se donde puede estar el fallo. Segun pude comprobar no era problema del ldap sino de algo que hace de firewall en la maquina, bloqueando el puerto ssh. Resulta que despues de chequear el firewall comprobe que estaba bien, y comence a hacer pruebas, ya que tengo otro server web que si acepta el ssh. Bien pues resulta que unicamente acepta conexiones ssh desde Ip interna y desde una Ip externa en concreto. Estuve buscando como es posible esto pero no encuentro nada que bloquee las conexiones. Comprobe ya los iptables pero no veo como saber que reacciona ante el intento de intrusion. Si pones las reglas de iptables que tienes activadas seguro que a alguien se le puede ocurrir alguna idea. Otra forma de ver lo que pasa es revisando el registro (iptables debe enviar los log al /var/log/messages o a algún lado). tcpdump también te podría ayudar. El server web esta online asi que no hay problemas de consulta desde internet. Que pruebas se os ocurren para saber que esta fallando? Ya sabes lo que falla ¿no? :-? Estás bloqueando el puerto ssh desde la conexión de red local. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.12.06...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktip5anyf1fb+hzhyyhqk98izg2jimod46wj2...@mail.gmail.com Prueba con iptstate. Saludos, -- Adrià ad...@esdebian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktik=ybpurdsvtm4svy3kqf=sbt_5qnr8af6d4...@mail.gmail.com
Re: problemas con server sftp
El Fri, 05 Nov 2010 13:15:35 +0100, deconya escribió: El día 5 de noviembre de 2010 13:06, Camaleón escribió: Que pruebas se os ocurren para saber que esta fallando? Ya sabes lo que falla ¿no? :-? Estás bloqueando el puerto ssh desde la conexión de red local. Pues veamos no hay reglas iptables (...) solo el fail2ban y ese esta por igual en ambos servidores. Hombre, el fail2ban estará ahí por algo ¿no? :-) Prueba a detenerlo e intenta la conexión vía ssh (siempre y cuando sea posible). Estoy mirando el /var/log/messages pero nada, No se por donde tirar porque no veo para nada donde puede estar el problema El fail2ban registra los accesos en /var/log/auth.log o en /var/log/ fail2ban.log mira por ahí. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.13.03...@gmail.com
Re: Mostrar archivos de respaldo (~) en el escritorio (GNOME)
Hola Camaleón... El 05/11/10 08:05, Camaleón escribió: Hola, ¿Sabéis si hay alguna forma de mostrar los archivos de respaldo (p. ej., archivo.txt~) en el escritorio? Con Squeeze y KDE 4.4.5 se ven, aparentemente, por defecto, sin tocar nada. Acabo de probarlo editando un archivito de texto que tenía por allí, al grabarlo apareció el ícono del respaldo. Le pone un ícono de reciclaje. Examinando el directorio ~/Desktop desde nautilus se ven pero no en el propio escritorio. Saludos, Igualmente, .-. Walter / \ _ / \ __ (\/ / \ |_/OO)http://swcomputacion.com/ \--~ Usuario Linux 425808 // || || \\http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd4030c.6010...@gmail.com
Re: Mostrar archivos de respaldo (~) en el escritorio (GNOME)
El 05/11/10 08:05, Camaleón escribió: Hola, ¿Sabéis si hay alguna forma de mostrar los archivos de respaldo (p. ej., archivo.txt~) en el escritorio? Examinando el directorio ~/Desktop desde nautilus se ven pero no en el propio escritorio. Yo de nuevo... ;-) A ver si esto te sirve ? http://www.linuxlots.com/~barreiro/spanish/gnome-es/users-guide/new-file.html Pego una partecita: ,,,el formato nombrearchivo.extensión, para nombres de archivo, en el que la extensión indica el tipo de archivo; por ejemplo, la extensión txt es normalmente utilizada para archivos de texto simple; en tanto que la extensión jpeg es utilizada para gráficos en formato JPEG, y así. En particular, la aplicación Gestor de Archivos de Gnome (GMC) utiliza extensiones para determinar el tipo de archivo. Usted puede ver todas las extensiones de archivo reconocidas por GMC, escogiendo la opción Editar tipos MIME en el menú Comandos de GMC. Note que la convención estándar en UNIX es que los ejecutables no... Saludos, Walter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd4066b.8010...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] eliminar regla DROP en iptables [SOLUCIONADO]
El día 4 de noviembre de 2010 14:28, Carlos Valderrama cva...@perucam.com escribió: Jajaja, bueno iptables lo aprendí como se dice a lo bruto, en una de las empresas que trabaje el primer dia me mandaron a poner políticas en DROP a un servidor de producción Gracias Darkmull. Si, así he hecho lo poco que necesité tocar. :-( El día 4 de noviembre de 2010 14:24, gonzalo rivero fishfromsa...@gmail.com escribió: en http://www.netfilter.org/ hay un par de tutoriales/howto en la parte de documentación. Seguramente te ayuden. Aun cuando ya lo sepas, te recomiendo empezar por el de redes, al menos para refrescar la memoria Gracias Gonzalo. Voy a aplicarme una recomendación que les hago a los profesionales que trabajan conmigo: Garrá lo'libro, garrá! :-P -- Jorge A Secreto Analista de Sistemas MP 361 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikxnvd2jltppmgbywerj6k52emcjass0vq7i...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Mostrar archivos de respaldo (~) en el escritorio (GNOME)
El Fri, 05 Nov 2010 10:28:11 -0300, Walter O. Dari escribió: El 05/11/10 08:05, Camaleón escribió: Hola, ¿Sabéis si hay alguna forma de mostrar los archivos de respaldo (p. ej., archivo.txt~) en el escritorio? Examinando el directorio ~/Desktop desde nautilus se ven pero no en el propio escritorio. Yo de nuevo... ;-) A ver si esto te sirve ? http://www.linuxlots.com/~barreiro/spanish/gnome-es/users-guide/new-file.html (...) El problema es que los archivos ocultos y los de respaldo se ven en Nautilus sin problemas (las dos opciones que hay para mostrar archivos ocultos y para mostrar los archivos de respaldo, ambas están activadas. Es en el escritorio únicamente donde no se ven :-? Por cierto, esto pasa tanto en Lenny como en Squeeze. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.15.18...@gmail.com
Re: OT.- Alternativa MS Project
El día 5 de noviembre de 2010 02:13, Jose Mari Mor Fabregat josemari@uji.es escribió: El 05/11/10 05:56, Carlos Agustín L. Avila escribió: El día 4 de noviembre de 2010 20:00, Joram Diaz joram.diaz.garr...@gmail.com escribió: Buenas Noches Podrías probar Redmine yo lo utilizo en el trabajo y es muy bueno, espero te sirva. Saludos Enviado desde Jetfire El 05-11-2010, a las 18:15, German Cardozogcard...@gmail.com escribió: Muy Buenas Noches: Conozco un software libre llamado Web2Project que está desarrollado como LAMP, y sirve precisamente para la administración de proyectos. Para hacer una revisión pudieras empezar probarlo. Creo que en su página Web tienen un demo. Saludos, Germán Cardozo Chirinos ~ carpe diem ~ On Nov 4, 2010 8:47 PM, Carlos Agustín L. Avilacagusti...@gmail.com wrote: El día 4 de noviembre de 2010 19:05, Gonzalo Rivero fishfromsa...@gmail.com escribió: El jue, 04-11-2010 a las 19:01 -0600, Carlos Agustín L. Avila escribió: Hola a todos. Sucede... ¿lo puedo incorporar a mi sistema? Vamos yo se que no todo pero las clases que gestionen las actividades; asignación de recursos; tiempos; etc. Gracias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsub... Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktintwolbhwuqehpm0cyzcmyyp1anmezhshu...@mail.gmail.com Los voy a probar, pero lo necesito en Java. Gracias Hi, Yo también uso redmine, funcional y completo. El único problema que le veo es que funciona con ruby on rails y es un infierno el mantener los paquetes y las 'gemas' en depende que sistema operativo. Por otra parte, creo (repito, creo) que tiene un planificador al estilo de planner. Saludos, - Jose Mari - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd3bc8e.20...@uji.es Gracias a todos. El sistema que estoy desarrollando es para la gestión de auditorias (no informáticas) pero la cosa es que me urge entregar un prototipo en enero y a lo que me gustaria no invertirle mucho es a la funcionalidad de la planeación de la auditoría. Lo estoy desarrolando en Tomcat/JSF/PostgreSQL Nuevamente gracias por su aporte. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimdvp0zq0xov1va59hmv1akcjmj+8l396bqe...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Comando mail [RESUELTO]
El 4 de noviembre de 2010 20:16, Marcos Delgado juanm...@gmail.comescribió: El día 4 de noviembre de 2010 17:04, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Thu, 04 Nov 2010 14:22:08 -0600, rantis cares escribió: El 4 de noviembre de 2010 14:01, Camaleón escribió: Yo solo necesito enviar unos correos y eso es todo, además mutt que recuerde, no se puede usar en crontab porque su interfaz esta diseñada para que el usuario la maneje. Ese fue uno de los varios motivos por los que decidi dejar de usarlo. No, no... qué va, no hace falta lanzar la interfaz, simplemente invocar al programita y listo. Te recomiendo echar un vistazo a mutt --help Para ser honestos, ya resolvi el problema como deseaba resolverlo, no hago de menos tus comentarios, de hecho los agradezco, pero creo que lo mas importante es que resolvi el problema. Claro, pero siempre está bien saber alternativas, por eso lo comentaba y como has mencionado a Gmail, pues añado otra forma de hacerlo. No lo veas como una respuesta _para ti_ (que no lo era, porque en este mensaje no preguntabas nada en concreto) sino como una aportación al archivo de la lista, ya que le puede interesar a alguien en algún momento. Es algo que uso a diario y me parece muy útil (de hecho dejé de usar el comando mail y lo sustituí por mutt porque el mail que viene instalado de serie en Debian no admite enviar archivos adjuntos y curiosamente Mutt sí lo permite) :-) Tengo que reconocer humildemente que tienes toda la razon, mail no puede enviar adjuntos y ayer me di cuenta (jejeje) aunque la verdad no necesite enviarlos. Creo que tienes una gran autoridad en la lista por el conocimiento que posees, pero sobre todo porque lideras con el ejemplo de responder incluso a los que no sabemos tanto. Nunca me gusta endulzar los oídos de las personas, y siempre hablo con la verdad, por eso es que te mereces mi reconocimiento y mi respeto. Pero siempre podemos tener una sana discrepancia y al final terminar respetando las identidades mentales de cada uno. Gracias. Saludos, -- Camaleón Naa Camaleón. Tu puedes decir lo que sea y en el tono que sea. Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktijoduhi+f-1pqvhr9a1cqpufjw+me4b3xh...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Imagen en ascii que no se desconfigure
El 4 de noviembre de 2010 18:37, Carlos Albornoz C. caralborn...@gmail.comescribió: On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 03:33:09PM -0600, rantis cares wrote: Listeros: Hice una imagen en codigo ascii mediante imagemagick, cuando trato de enviarmela a mi correo, toda esa formaci?n perfecta de letras, se desacomoda. He visto posteadas en internet, en mails imagenes en ascii que no se desconfiguran. ?Como le hago para que no se me desconfigure? ?Podr?an orientarme? Gracias Recuerda que en algunos clientes cuando estan configurados en mostrar solo texto plano, el ancho es de 80 columnas por 30 (creo) filas, ademas de que el tipo de fuente tambien influye en el ascii art. Saludos Bien, agradezco todas las respuestas, creo que la mejor opcion es dejarlo en un formato de imagen como lo dice Camaleón. Aunque estoy probando dejarlo en la web con formato html. Gracias a todos por la respuesta. Ratiscares
Re: SCRIPT LEYENDO LINEAS RECURSIVAMENTE
El 3 de noviembre de 2010 08:37, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Wed, 03 Nov 2010 10:45:31 -0300, Jorge A. Secreto escribió: El día 3 de noviembre de 2010 08:06, Camaleón escribió: Hazlo con sed, como te dice Javier. No necesitas estructuras de bucle. Básicamente: *** sed -i 's/original/reemplazo/g' /ruta/a/archivo.txt *** Acá me perdí... Lo que quería hacer él ¿no era borrar los archivos que figuraban en una lista? No uso sed pero, por el man, me parece que no es lo que hace. ¿Me explicas que hace ese comando? Entendí que buscaba hacer lo que comúnmente se denomina buscar y reemplazar (dado un archivo, buscar una cadena de texto y eliminarla) y eso con sed lo hace en un segundo. Lo que busqué hacer era encontrar una linea y que se tomara la informacion de esa misma linea para ejecutar un comando posteirormente y que se volviera a repetir una y otra vez. Nunca busque reemplazar ningun texto, en todo caso si hubise usado sed. En pocas palabras: yo buscaba que la maquina leyera una linea y ejecutara una accion, y lo hiciera recursivamente hasta que terminara de leer cada linea. Gracias.
Re: SCRIPT LEYENDO LINEAS RECURSIVAMENTE
2010/11/5 rantis cares rantisca...@gmail.com: En pocas palabras: yo buscaba que la maquina leyera una linea y ejecutara una accion, y lo hiciera recursivamente hasta que terminara de leer cada linea. Lo normal es que esto se haga iterativamente y no recursivamente, la recursividad se suele usar para casos más complejos ;) Las respuesta que te dieron antes del ejemplo recursivo son buenas, sobre todo si tus líneas no contienen nada raro Saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimdt+xwjj++yvp+f6rx3+agve95jetrafjzy...@mail.gmail.com
Codigos ASCII
Buenas tardes gente (tardes pq yo estoy en argentina :p) Estoy con un problemita que no le encuentro la vuelta. Uso Squeeze con kerner Linux version 2.6.32-5-xen-686 (Debian 2.6.32-27) y Gnome de escritorio. Mi problema es que no puedo o no se como escribir los codigos ascii como se hace habitualmente en güindos (alt + nº) Si logueo en consola tty1 (alt + shift + f1) puedo escribir los codigos ascii con la combinacion de alt + numero pero no puedo hacerlo en la xconsola (tty7). Alguien tiene idea de como puedo corregir esto? Atte Andres. Gracias
Re: Comando mail [RESUELTO]
El Fri, 05 Nov 2010 10:23:45 -0600, rantis cares escribió: Es algo que uso a diario y me parece muy útil (de hecho dejé de usar el comando mail y lo sustituí por mutt porque el mail que viene instalado de serie en Debian no admite enviar archivos adjuntos y curiosamente Mutt sí lo permite) :-) Tengo que reconocer humildemente que tienes toda la razon, mail no puede enviar adjuntos y ayer me di cuenta (jejeje) aunque la verdad no necesite enviarlos. Claro, si es que yo me tropecé con la misma piedra :-) Creo que tienes una gran autoridad en la lista por el conocimiento que posees, pero sobre todo porque lideras con el ejemplo de responder incluso a los que no sabemos tanto. Nunca me gusta endulzar los oídos de las personas, y siempre hablo con la verdad, por eso es que te mereces mi reconocimiento y mi respeto. Pero siempre podemos tener una sana discrepancia y al final terminar respetando las identidades mentales de cada uno. Me parece (aunque quizá me equivoque) que en esta lista estamos todos un poco tensos, como si con cada mensaje que se enviara se tuviera que sentar cátedra o dar una lección magistral... y me parece que es un poco exagerado. Esto es una lista, que sirve para dar consejos, aportar puntos de vista distintos o alternativas nuevas (hasta meteduras de pata, no problemo, me interesa más una respuesta equivocada que una no-respuesta), no siempre se pretende dar una única solución a un problema, porque a cada uno le puede venir una opción u otra. Lo que quiero decir es que no pretendía convencerte de nada (yo también soy muy cabezota y me gusta seguir mis propios esquemas) sólo aportar un punto de vista distinto al esquema que habías puesto porque el hecho de que a ti no te sirva no quiere decir que a otra persona le pueda venir bien saber cómo enviar correos desde línea de comandos con Mutt. En fin... relax que ya es viernes :-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.17.15...@gmail.com
Re: Comando mail [RESUELTO]
El 5 de noviembre de 2010 11:15, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Fri, 05 Nov 2010 10:23:45 -0600, rantis cares escribió: Es algo que uso a diario y me parece muy útil (de hecho dejé de usar el comando mail y lo sustituí por mutt porque el mail que viene instalado de serie en Debian no admite enviar archivos adjuntos y curiosamente Mutt sí lo permite) :-) Tengo que reconocer humildemente que tienes toda la razon, mail no puede enviar adjuntos y ayer me di cuenta (jejeje) aunque la verdad no necesite enviarlos. Claro, si es que yo me tropecé con la misma piedra :-) Creo que tienes una gran autoridad en la lista por el conocimiento que posees, pero sobre todo porque lideras con el ejemplo de responder incluso a los que no sabemos tanto. Nunca me gusta endulzar los oídos de las personas, y siempre hablo con la verdad, por eso es que te mereces mi reconocimiento y mi respeto. Pero siempre podemos tener una sana discrepancia y al final terminar respetando las identidades mentales de cada uno. Me parece (aunque quizá me equivoque) que en esta lista estamos todos un poco tensos, como si con cada mensaje que se enviara se tuviera que sentar cátedra o dar una lección magistral... y me parece que es un poco exagerado. Esto es una lista, que sirve para dar consejos, aportar puntos de vista distintos o alternativas nuevas (hasta meteduras de pata, no problemo, me interesa más una respuesta equivocada que una no-respuesta), no siempre se pretende dar una única solución a un problema, porque a cada uno le puede venir una opción u otra. Lo que quiero decir es que no pretendía convencerte de nada (yo también soy muy cabezota y me gusta seguir mis propios esquemas) sólo aportar un punto de vista distinto al esquema que habías puesto porque el hecho de que a ti no te sirva no quiere decir que a otra persona le pueda venir bien saber cómo enviar correos desde línea de comandos con Mutt. En fin... relax que ya es viernes :-) Saludos, El subject de este hilo deberia ser: Subject: Re: [SOLUCIONADO] jejeje -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.17.15...@gmail.com
Re: Comando mail [RESUELTO]
El Fri, 05 Nov 2010 11:19:21 -0600, rantis cares escribió: (...) En fin... relax que ya es viernes :-) El subject de este hilo deberia ser: Subject: Re: [SOLUCIONADO] jejeje Eso es lo que pone :-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.17.24...@gmail.com
Re: Codigos ASCII
El Fri, 05 Nov 2010 13:57:02 -0300, Andres Giribaldi escribió: Estoy con un problemita que no le encuentro la vuelta. Uso Squeeze con kerner Linux version 2.6.32-5-xen-686 (Debian 2.6.32-27) y Gnome de escritorio. Mi problema es que no puedo o no se como escribir los codigos ascii como se hace habitualmente en güindos (alt + nº) Si logueo en consola tty1 (alt + shift + f1) puedo escribir los codigos ascii con la combinacion de alt + numero pero no puedo hacerlo en la xconsola (tty7). Alguien tiene idea de como puedo corregir esto? Hum... yo los saco con las teclas de composición que suele ser la AltGr +Shift+cualquier tecla :-) Por ejemplo, el símbolo del copyright © se saca con AltGr+Shif+C y la virgulilla ~ con AltGr+Ñ. En GNOME también usar el mapa de caracteres (inicio/accesorios/mapa de caracteres). Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.17.20...@gmail.com
Re: Mostrar archivos de respaldo (~) en el escritorio (GNOME)
El 05/11/10 12:18, Camaleón escribió: El Fri, 05 Nov 2010 10:28:11 -0300, Walter O. Dari escribió: El 05/11/10 08:05, Camaleón escribió: Hola, ¿Sabéis si hay alguna forma de mostrar los archivos de respaldo (p. ej., archivo.txt~) en el escritorio? Examinando el directorio ~/Desktop desde nautilus se ven pero no en el propio escritorio. Yo de nuevo... ;-) A ver si esto te sirve ? http://www.linuxlots.com/~barreiro/spanish/gnome-es/users-guide/new-file.html (...) El problema es que los archivos ocultos y los de respaldo se ven en Nautilus sin problemas (las dos opciones que hay para mostrar archivos ocultos y para mostrar los archivos de respaldo, ambas están activadas. Es en el escritorio únicamente donde no se ven :-? Por cierto, esto pasa tanto en Lenny como en Squeeze. Debe ser con Gnome el problema, con KDE se ven en el escritorio. Saludos, Igualmente, Walter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd440c3.2000...@gmail.com
Re: Mostrar archivos de respaldo (~) en el escritorio (GNOME)
Estoy usando xfce así que no estoy muy seguro si esto funciona pero prueba ejecuta el editor de configuración de gnome con el comando gconf-editor luego en el arbol de carpetas habré /desktop gnomefile_views y de entre las opciones que aparecen en el lado derecho viene una que dice: show_hidden_files supongo eso debería funcionar... saludos...
Re: Mostrar archivos de respaldo (~) en el escritorio (GNOME)
2010/11/5 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Fri, 05 Nov 2010 10:28:11 -0300, Walter O. Dari escribió: El 05/11/10 08:05, Camaleón escribió: Hola, ¿Sabéis si hay alguna forma de mostrar los archivos de respaldo (p. ej., archivo.txt~) en el escritorio? Examinando el directorio ~/Desktop desde nautilus se ven pero no en el propio escritorio. Yo de nuevo... ;-) A ver si esto te sirve ? http://www.linuxlots.com/~barreiro/spanish/gnome-es/users-guide/new-file.html (...) El problema es que los archivos ocultos y los de respaldo se ven en Nautilus sin problemas (las dos opciones que hay para mostrar archivos ocultos y para mostrar los archivos de respaldo, ambas están activadas. Es en el escritorio únicamente donde no se ven :-? Por cierto, esto pasa tanto en Lenny como en Squeeze. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.15.18...@gmail.com No recuerdo alguna vez en que el desktop de nautilus mostrara archivos ~ o dot, si nesecitas trabajar con esos archivo lo mejor es usar el browser de nautilus o desde una terminal saludos -- Carlos Albornoz C. Staff DebianChile.cl [http://www.debianchile.cl] http://carlos.debianchile.cl Linux User #360502 Fono: 97864420 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinqa+f1576myw-11i7aj52pkv5sazcm2erln...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Codigos ASCII
Gracias por la respuesta Camaleon. Utilizar el mapa de caracteres es una solucion pero no es nada practico. El usar AltGr+Shift+(letra) tenes unos cuantos caracteres pero eso no difiere en la configuracion de cada teclado? La pregunta es, si se puede usar los codigos ascii desde tty1 porque no en una xconsole de gnome? El 5 de noviembre de 2010 14:20, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Fri, 05 Nov 2010 13:57:02 -0300, Andres Giribaldi escribió: Estoy con un problemita que no le encuentro la vuelta. Uso Squeeze con kerner Linux version 2.6.32-5-xen-686 (Debian 2.6.32-27) y Gnome de escritorio. Mi problema es que no puedo o no se como escribir los codigos ascii como se hace habitualmente en güindos (alt + nº) Si logueo en consola tty1 (alt + shift + f1) puedo escribir los codigos ascii con la combinacion de alt + numero pero no puedo hacerlo en la xconsola (tty7). Alguien tiene idea de como puedo corregir esto? Hum... yo los saco con las teclas de composición que suele ser la AltGr +Shift+cualquier tecla :-) Por ejemplo, el símbolo del copyright © se saca con AltGr+Shif+C y la virgulilla ~ con AltGr+Ñ. En GNOME también usar el mapa de caracteres (inicio/accesorios/mapa de caracteres). Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.17.20...@gmail.com
Re: Mostrar archivos de respaldo (~) en el escritorio (GNOME)
El Fri, 05 Nov 2010 11:49:27 -0600, Jaime Velázquez escribió: Estoy usando xfce así que no estoy muy seguro si esto funciona pero prueba ejecuta el editor de configuración de gnome con el comando gconf-editor luego en el arbol de carpetas habré /desktop gnomefile_views y de entre las opciones que aparecen en el lado derecho viene una que dice: show_hidden_files supongo eso debería funcionar... Debería funcionar, pero no lo hace (sí, esas opciones que comentas están activadas) :-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.18.25...@gmail.com
Re: Codigos ASCII
El Fri, 05 Nov 2010 15:24:57 -0300, Andres Giribaldi escribió: El 5 de noviembre de 2010 14:20, Camaleón escribió: Hum... yo los saco con las teclas de composición que suele ser la AltGr +Shift+cualquier tecla :-) Por ejemplo, el símbolo del copyright © se saca con AltGr+Shif+C y la virgulilla ~ con AltGr+Ñ. En GNOME también usar el mapa de caracteres (inicio/accesorios/mapa de caracteres). Gracias por la respuesta Camaleon. Utilizar el mapa de caracteres es una solucion pero no es nada practico. El usar AltGr+Shift+(letra) tenes unos cuantos caracteres pero eso no difiere en la configuracion de cada teclado? Más que en teclado físico difiere en el mapa de teclado que se tenga activado. Si quieres un método universal (al menos funciona en GNOME), puedes usar unicode (Control+Shift+u+enter+código+enter) http://www.hermit.org/Linux/ComposeKeys.html Ejemplo para ©: Control+Shift+u+enter+00a9+enter La pregunta es, si se puede usar los codigos ascii desde tty1 porque no en una xconsole de gnome? En Xorg (entorno gráfico) me parece que no se puede, tienes que usar el método de compose o unicode :-( Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.18.39...@gmail.com
Re: Mostrar archivos de respaldo (~) en el escritorio (GNOME)
El día 5 de noviembre de 2010 12:18, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Fri, 05 Nov 2010 10:28:11 -0300, Walter O. Dari escribió: El 05/11/10 08:05, Camaleón escribió: Hola, ¿Sabéis si hay alguna forma de mostrar los archivos de respaldo (p. ej., archivo.txt~) en el escritorio? Examinando el directorio ~/Desktop desde nautilus se ven pero no en el propio escritorio. Yo de nuevo... ;-) A ver si esto te sirve ? http://www.linuxlots.com/~barreiro/spanish/gnome-es/users-guide/new-file.html (...) El problema es que los archivos ocultos y los de respaldo se ven en Nautilus sin problemas (las dos opciones que hay para mostrar archivos ocultos y para mostrar los archivos de respaldo, ambas están activadas. Es en el escritorio únicamente donde no se ven :-? Por cierto, esto pasa tanto en Lenny como en Squeeze. Hasta donde recuerdo, nunca se han mostrado en la carpeta escritorio los archivos ocultos salvo que expresamente le des mostrar archivos ocultos, ahora en el desktop mismo no le veo utilidad el tener archivos ahí almacenados ocultos o de otro tipo, la pantalla se llenaría muy pronto Xb. En mi sistema no tengo ningún archivo oculto en el escritorio. Saludos. -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista como hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikjln9ydp7cr5i_q3ozsnge3vjgagnsj4-cn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Codigos ASCII
Gracias por la data Camaleon. Ahora deberia aprenderme los codigos unicode :s De todos modos seguire buscandole la vuelta a ver si hay algo mas practico que usar el unicode o el compose. Pd: No deja de llamarme la atencion que en una consola se pueda y en una xconsola no. El 5 de noviembre de 2010 15:39, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Fri, 05 Nov 2010 15:24:57 -0300, Andres Giribaldi escribió: El 5 de noviembre de 2010 14:20, Camaleón escribió: Hum... yo los saco con las teclas de composición que suele ser la AltGr +Shift+cualquier tecla :-) Por ejemplo, el símbolo del copyright © se saca con AltGr+Shif+C y la virgulilla ~ con AltGr+Ñ. En GNOME también usar el mapa de caracteres (inicio/accesorios/mapa de caracteres). Gracias por la respuesta Camaleon. Utilizar el mapa de caracteres es una solucion pero no es nada practico. El usar AltGr+Shift+(letra) tenes unos cuantos caracteres pero eso no difiere en la configuracion de cada teclado? Más que en teclado físico difiere en el mapa de teclado que se tenga activado. Si quieres un método universal (al menos funciona en GNOME), puedes usar unicode (Control+Shift+u+enter+código+enter) http://www.hermit.org/Linux/ComposeKeys.html Ejemplo para ©: Control+Shift+u+enter+00a9+enter La pregunta es, si se puede usar los codigos ascii desde tty1 porque no en una xconsole de gnome? En Xorg (entorno gráfico) me parece que no se puede, tienes que usar el método de compose o unicode :-( Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.18.39...@gmail.com
Facturación Electrónica
Quisiera saber si alguna de las soluciones de software libre para la facturación electrónica contempla ya los requerimientos del Sistema de Administarción Tributaria (SAT) de México para la generación de Comprobantes Fiscales Digitales. Gracias de antemano Saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimea53t7nmv0iqd9ltjk12wnf3tagrb1c2fn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: permissões de arquivo.
veja com quais opções o drive foi montado. Dúvidas? Maiores detalhes ? man mount José de Figueiredo wrote: Linuser, entendo... mas considere que o Debian é uma distribuição que preza muito pela segurança... acredito que esta seja uma diretiva de segurança. t+ Em Qui, 2010-11-04 às 19:45 +0100, linuser escreveu: Prezados, Deparei-me com um problema aparentemente simples, mas sem explicação até agora. Ocorre que não consigo mudar as permissões de um arquivo num drive usb formatado com Vfat. Vejam o arquivo: # ls -l bootinst.sh -rw-r--r-- 1 manomano2292 Nov 4 19:21 bootinst.sh Agora, como root, # chmod 755 bootinst.sh # ls -l bootinst.sh -rw-r--r-- 1 manomano2292 Nov 4 19:21 bootinst.sh As permissões não foram alteradas. Eu consigo copiar, criar, apagar arquivos no dispositivo usb. Eu consigo formatar o dispositivo (como root, claro). Eu posso tudo, menos mudar as permissões do arquivo. Já tentei copiar o arquivo para minha home-area, mudar as permissões (dá certo), apagar o arquivo no usb, remover o usb, copiar o arquivo de volta. Resultado: as permissões estão lá, inalteradas! Já tentei formatar o usb como ext3. Neste caso, consegui mudar as permissões, mas alguma outra coisa deu errado (não me lembro agora, após tantas horas). Eu preciso deste arquivo bootinst.sh como executável para tornar o usb bootável. Precisa ser especificamente com este arquivo, devido uma aplicação específica (OpenFoam) que vou rodar. Em tempo: há vários outros arquivos com permissão 'x' no dispositivo. Uso o Squeeze. Idéias? Paulo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd42bdd.9080...@gmail.com
Re: permissões de arquivo.
Ocorreu o mesmo comigo, o sistema montava o meu pendrive como somente leitura, nem o root conseguia escrever. No entanto, era só com um pendrive específico, todos os outros funcionavam perfeitamente. Solucionei formatando o pendrive, daí passou a montá-lo com permissão de escrita. Para formatar: mkfs.vfat -n NOME_DO_PENDRIVE /dev/sdXY (x = dispositivo e Y = partição, provavelmente X=c e Y=1) On 11/05/2010 02:07 PM, Molinero wrote: veja com quais opções o drive foi montado. Dúvidas? Maiores detalhes ? man mount José de Figueiredo wrote: Linuser, entendo... mas considere que o Debian é uma distribuição que preza muito pela segurança... acredito que esta seja uma diretiva de segurança. t+ Em Qui, 2010-11-04 às 19:45 +0100, linuser escreveu: Prezados, Deparei-me com um problema aparentemente simples, mas sem explicação até agora. Ocorre que não consigo mudar as permissões de um arquivo num drive usb formatado com Vfat. Vejam o arquivo: # ls -l bootinst.sh -rw-r--r-- 1 manomano2292 Nov 4 19:21 bootinst.sh Agora, como root, # chmod 755 bootinst.sh # ls -l bootinst.sh -rw-r--r-- 1 manomano2292 Nov 4 19:21 bootinst.sh As permissões não foram alteradas. Eu consigo copiar, criar, apagar arquivos no dispositivo usb. Eu consigo formatar o dispositivo (como root, claro). Eu posso tudo, menos mudar as permissões do arquivo. Já tentei copiar o arquivo para minha home-area, mudar as permissões (dá certo), apagar o arquivo no usb, remover o usb, copiar o arquivo de volta. Resultado: as permissões estão lá, inalteradas! Já tentei formatar o usb como ext3. Neste caso, consegui mudar as permissões, mas alguma outra coisa deu errado (não me lembro agora, após tantas horas). Eu preciso deste arquivo bootinst.sh como executável para tornar o usb bootável. Precisa ser especificamente com este arquivo, devido uma aplicação específica (OpenFoam) que vou rodar. Em tempo: há vários outros arquivos com permissão 'x' no dispositivo. Uso o Squeeze. Idéias? Paulo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd42d97.70...@gmail.com
[OFF TOPIC] Nagios Plugins incompleto
Instalei o Nagios 3 em uma máquina com debian Lenny juntamente com o Nagios Plugins 1.4.15, até aí tudo bem, mas notei que faltam muitos plugins. Na pasta /usr/local/nagios/libexec tem esses plugins: check_apt check_file_age check_log check_oracle check_tcp check_breeze check_flexlm check_mailq check_overcr check_time check_by_ssh check_ftp check_mrtg check_ping check_udp check_clamd check_http check_mrtgtraf check_pop check_ups check_cluster check_icmp check_nagios check_procs check_users check_dhcp check_ide_smart check_nntp check_real check_wave check_dig check_ifoperstatus check_nt check_rpc check_disk check_ifstatus check_ntp check_sensors check_disk_smb check_imap check_ntp_peer check_smtp utils.pm check_dns check_ircd check_ntp_time check_ssh utils.sh check_dummy check_load check_nwstat check_swap Mas na lista do site nagiosplugins.org a lista é bem maior. Alguem pode me ajudar a ter todos os plugins? -- Samir Patrice
Re: A question for the list:
ZephyrQ wrote: If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid), which other distribution would you use and why? Red Hat -- I learned Linux on Red Hat. It worked fine up through version 7.3. 8 had problems. 9 was worse. Red Hat went commercial and turned their back on enthusiasts. I switched to Debian. SuSE -- I've tried SuSE a few times over the years. Administration is via GUI's. I prefer Bash, Vim, and RCS/CVS. Ubuntu -- I tried Ubuntu for desktops and as an LTSP server in late 2009. Installation, LTSP, software RAID, and whole drive encryption were easy, but I ran into video driver problems with LTSP terminals (older p3 boxes with various outdated video cards). The Ubuntu features may have saved time if you didn't want to get under the hood, but added learning curve when you did. There seemed to be more updates and less stability than Debian. FreeBSD -- the primary FOSS alternative to GNU/Linux. The BSD architecture is more stable than Linux and the documentation is solid. I ran BSD and Linux servers and DOS/ Windows desktops for years. In the end, Linux won because of GNU (Linux, DJGPP, and Cygwin), malware resistance, and cost. Now all my machines are Debian GNU/Linux except for one laptop with Windows XP/Pro for specific applications. My domain hosting service was Slackware, then Ubuntu, and now Debian. HTH, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd3a05a.1060...@holgerdanske.com
Re: A question for the list:
ZephyrQ put forth on 11/4/2010 9:50 PM: If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid), which other distribution would you use and why? What situation are you in that motivates this question? -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd3a96a.4030...@hardwarefreak.com
Searching inside e-mail clients (was: KMail - forwarding issues)
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 16:35:31 -0400, Celejar wrote: On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 15:48:30 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: ... with mbox and searching strings in Icedove is bit slow if mbox files are big (measured in GiB :-P). If you're still doing on-demand searching, have you considered using a mail indexer, such as Sylph-Searcher, or a generic file indexer, such as recoll? Yep, I'm using Tracker. But Tracker for Lenny still lacks Icedove integration so I have to use Icedove embedded search, which is fine but so basic. And I need to keep Icedove because of its hmtl support. Another option is Evolution but always found it too much resource consuming and bloated. Obviously, dedicated mail indexers have the advantage of understanding the structure of emails, so you can search for mail with specific field contents. I would like to see Icedove supporting both, mbox and maildir :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.07.01...@gmail.com
Re: Locales/sort bug
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 00:36:47 +0100, David Jardine wrote: On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 10:55:53PM +, Camaleón wrote: (...) Heck, it's even weirder with this sequence: aph3,z aph3_devel,a aph3,b I gets sorted as: aph3,b aph3_devel,a aph3,z I'm trying to reverse-engineering the logic behind the sort but I can't see it. Maybe it is done randomly? Very curious, indeed. It just seems to ignore certain characters. Try filtering the output through, for example, 's/[_||,]//g' and the you get it in the right order. Yes, sort documentation and man page advice about that (to avoid custom locales while using it), but what (an how) it really does when locales are in use? Why ranking comma at the first place and then give underscore a higher priority? :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.07.07...@gmail.com
Re: linux-image for i586
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 07:52:44 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón: No, I cannot see any i586 kernel (i686 is the right one for pentium). AFAIK the kernel will not work on pentium machine - as it will announce at boot time - no appropriate CPU. How is that? Are you saying that you cannot boot a Pentium III using i686 kernel? It is designed explicitly for that architecture :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.07.14...@gmail.com
Re: A question for the list:
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 21:50:07 -0500, ZephyrQ wrote: If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid), which other distribution would you use and why? I've using openSUSE for many years... rock solid, mature, a very good - and skilled- community of users, and perfect for workstation or laptop use. The only but is they have recently dropped the common support from 24 to 18 months (meaning: after one year and a half you have to upgrade the whole system to keep getting security patches) and that's a very short period for using it in a server room. So for a server usage if I couldn't use Debian I'd propably look into CentOS or FreeBSD. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.07.24...@gmail.com
Re: A question for the list:
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 23:12:42 -0700, David Christensen wrote: (...) SuSE -- I've tried SuSE a few times over the years. Administration is via GUI's. I prefer Bash, Vim, and RCS/CVS. openSUSE is one of the bests distributions for command line users :-) (running YasT in ncurses is a pleasure) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.07.26...@gmail.com
Re: A question for the list:
Dne, 05. 11. 2010 03:50:07 je ZephyrQ napisal(a): If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid), which other distribution would you use and why? gNewSense. Failing that, anything from http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1288943100.671...@compax
Re: networkmanager blocking evolution
On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 22:57 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: Good day, Standalone laptop using debian squeeze freeze on a dsl modem connected by cable. All my internet applications work but evolution send/receive greyed out. Quick answer, edit the file /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf and change the line which says managed=false to managed=true. You will need to do this as root, then reboot afterwards. See http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager -- Tixy () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign (www.asciiribbon.org) /\ Against HTML e-mail and proprietary attachments -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1288944541.2116.9.ca...@computer2.home
Re: A question for the list:
If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid), which other distribution would you use and why? Occasionally PClinuxOS on desktops, and occasionally CentOS in server room. Regards Roman
Re: lenny thunderbird filters
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 20:55:30 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 11/04/2010 07:37 PM, Camaleón wrote: Why do you think the problem of the shortcut (N) for going to the next unread messsage has any connection with the filters? :-? hm.. not sure, I just ASSuMEd.. X-) Anyway, when you suspect on filters, just enable the filters log to get a clue of where is e-mail being dropped. ok, so I have messages in folders, when I get to the last unread message, the folder STILL shows (1) and moves on to another unread message in the next folder. Mmm... so you have a folder with no unread messages but still stating there is (1) unread messages (marked in bold) in the folder's pane. Right? Could it be that you are applying some kind of rules for displaying only messages that matches a common pattern (like showing just today's ones, coming from a concrete sender or so)? Also, you can try (just in case) to rebuild index and/or compacting the offending folder. Thunderbird (Icedove) sometimes can go nuts with its internal bd and hides e-mails or does weird things :-) (make a full backup of you Thunderbird profile before performing a rebuild of index) Does it happen while using a threaded view/plain view for messages or both? What type of folders view (smart-unified/all folders...) are you using? ack, no idea what you mean. I use the tipical 3-panel view, folders to the left, message headers up top, and body of email below. I use threaded view, but I'm not sure I changed it in ALL the folders, only the ones I noticed had threads, and it wasn't threading. all folders, no special effects.. Thunderbird allows to select what folders you want to see in the folder's pane (most used, all folders, smart folders...). In addition, it allows you to select what kind of message view you want for each folder (show unread e-mails, received today e-mails, tagged e-mails...). Just be sure you are not applying any of these options and all folders/e-mails are being displayed. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.08.15...@gmail.com
Re: Size of minimal Debian installation
On Lu, 01 nov 10, 20:45:49, gun_sm...@shellium.org wrote: I agree, it has been a while for me as well. I only remember gcc coming in with build-essential on my end, which I always need. (headers|make|gcc|etc) build-essential should be installed on a user system only as a dependency of dkms (needed for nvidia and fglrx drivers). Of course, build-essential is also needed if you want to rebuild packages (or compile unpackaged software), but I don't consider that to be a user system ;) Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
heads-up: me considering to run another favourite FLOSS poll
Hi, So I've been running this poll for a few years now, and am considering doing it yet again. Don't hesitate to reply if you have suggestions. Here's a list of older results: http://tshepang.tumblr.com/post/654031894. -- blog: http://tshepang.tumblr.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktim_thx7aqjfozitazysvga8onbtqwemj4tap...@mail.gmail.com
Mozilla products in Debian (was: A question for the list:)
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 00:30:11 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: (...) There is a third choice, I guess: Ship firefox / thunderbird in non-free. Support for non-free is best-effort, which basically means that if upstream is willing to fix it then the security team / maintainers will package it. This basically results in Debian stable's non-free containing software with known security vulnerabilities that Mozilla is unwilling to fix. How about volatile? :-? ClamAV packages are there for that precisely reason (they need to be updated -security fixes- very often). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.08.38...@gmail.com
Re: initex and virtex
Hello List, On 05/11/10 03:35, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: According to the man page, it seems initex and virtex are now replaced by tex -ini and tex according to the same man page: If they exist, then both initex and virtex are symbolic links to the tex executable. The issue is rather their existence. Jerome -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd3c3b2.2060...@rezozer.net
Re: A question for the list:
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.: In 4cd3921a.5090...@optonline.net, Doug wrote: One thing I really _don't_ like about Debian is its fear of the copyright. I really want Thunderbird and Firefox, with their familiar icons, on my screen, not the goofy clones that Debian has come up with. It's not a fear. It's a reality. The Mozilla Foundation contacted Debian Developers and asked them to come into compliance on the trademark usage allowances that Mozilla provides. The funny thing is, AFAIR the trademark license has been changed since then and if I got it right, there is no need for rebranding anymore. :) Debian's choices were: 1. Seek approval from the Mozilla Foundation for *all* patches. 2. Stop using the trademark. #1 was not an option anyway, because it doesn't comply with the DFSG. Everyone must be allowed to change and distribute Debian without permission from anyone else. J. -- Nothing is as I planned it. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Mozilla products in Debian (was: A question for the list:)
Why not simply grab the package from mozilla and install under /opt Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 08:38:21 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Mozilla products in Debian (was: A question for the list:) On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 00:30:11 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: (...) There is a third choice, I guess: Ship firefox / thunderbird in non-free. Support for non-free is best-effort, which basically means that if upstream is willing to fix it then the security team / maintainers will package it. This basically results in Debian stable's non-free containing software with known security vulnerabilities that Mozilla is unwilling to fix. How about volatile? :-? ClamAV packages are there for that precisely reason (they need to be updated -security fixes- very often). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.08.38...@gmail.com
Re: Mozilla products in Debian (was: A question for the list:)
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:04:46 +, Chris wrote: How about volatile? :-? ClamAV packages are there for that precisely reason (they need to be updated -security fixes- very often). Why not simply grab the package from mozilla and install under /opt Sent It lacks system integration (plugins et al). Besides, Mozilla does not provide 64-bits builds for stable branch (AFAIK, only nightly builds are available and not for Thunderbird, just Firefox). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.09.10...@gmail.com
Re: aptitude
On Ma, 02 nov 10, 16:43:46, patrick wrote: if a system is using the bigmem kernel: uname -a Linux buddy2 2.6.26-1-686-bigmem #1 SMP Fri Mar 13 18:52:29 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux You should probably just install the linux-image-2.6-686-bigmem package, which depends on the latest -686-bigmem kernel in stable. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: getting rid of errors in Xorg.0.log
On Ma, 02 nov 10, 21:54:43, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Can someone please help me on how to configure X to get rid of the following errors. $ grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM (EE) GLX error: Can not get required symbols. [snip synaptics errors or which I have no idea] $uname -a Linux kusumanchi.mae.cornell.edu 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Thu Sep 16 19:35:51 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux Using a combination of Lenny and Squeeze. Machine is Dell Inspiron E1505 . $lspci | grep VGA 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M52 [Mobility Radeon X1300] ... ii xserver-xorg-video-radeon1:6.13.1-2 X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI Radeon display driver You need a newer kernel, probably the one from squeeze. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: lenny thunderbird filters
On 11/05/2010 04:15 AM, Camaleón wrote: Mmm... so you have a folder with no unread messages but still stating there is (1) unread messages (marked in bold) in the folder's pane. Right? correct. Could it be that you are applying some kind of rules for displaying only messages that matches a common pattern (like showing just today's ones, coming from a concrete sender or so)? no rules that I applied on purpose.. and it isn't all folders, it seems random.. and not every time. Also, you can try (just in case) to rebuild index and/or compacting the offending folder. Thunderbird (Icedove) sometimes can go nuts with its internal bd and hides e-mails or does weird things :-) I see the compact folders menu item, but not rebuild index... where do you find that one. ah, I think I found it under folder properties.. repair Folder? (make a full backup of you Thunderbird profile before performing a rebuild of index) nah, I make daily backups:) Does it happen while using a threaded view/plain view for messages or both? What type of folders view (smart-unified/all folders...) are you using? ack, no idea what you mean. I use the tipical 3-panel view, folders to the left, message headers up top, and body of email below. I use threaded view, but I'm not sure I changed it in ALL the folders, only the ones I noticed had threads, and it wasn't threading. all folders, no special effects.. Thunderbird allows to select what folders you want to see in the folder's pane (most used, all folders, smart folders...). In addition, it allows you to select what kind of message view you want for each folder (show unread e-mails, received today e-mails, tagged e-mails...). Just be sure you are not applying any of these options and all folders/e-mails are being displayed. yeah, I imagine that could cause LOTS of problems, people forgetting what view they have set can't find messages.. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd3e147.4090...@pcartwright.com
Re: lenny thunderbird filters
On 11/04/2010 11:52 PM, Johan Grönqvist wrote: Yes, I have seen this, without filters, but for a newsgroup account (news.gmane.org), and it seems to happen when I fetch new messages several times before reading through the new messages, and even then I only see it sometimes. I haven't done newsgroups in over a year.. though thunderbird does have a news server setup in it, it isn't a valid login any longer.. as far as new messages, I do go through read ALL new messages, BUT, I do see where new messages come into folders that I have already finished reading, that could very well be THE PROBLEM.. I have no solution to offer, and I do not remember the exact version combinations I have seen this in. thanks! -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd3e219.3020...@pcartwright.com
Re: Problems configuring wireless with wicd on amd64 lenny
On Jo, 04 nov 10, 22:27:45, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: I have just installed lenny from cd-1 (5.0.6), but I cannot get wireless network to work. I have installed wicd from lenny-backports, and followed the instructions on the page http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse but wicd does not recognize the wireless network (which is there, I am sending this via it, from a live cd of ubuntu). My cristal ball says you are missing some firmware package specific to your wireless card or you need a newer kernel. Please post the output of 'lspci -nn' and 'dmesg | grep -i firmware' on the Lenny system. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: lenny thunderbird filters
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 06:49:43 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 11/05/2010 04:15 AM, Camaleón wrote: (...) Also, you can try (just in case) to rebuild index and/or compacting the offending folder. Thunderbird (Icedove) sometimes can go nuts with its internal bd and hides e-mails or does weird things :-) I see the compact folders menu item, but not rebuild index... where do you find that one. ah, I think I found it under folder properties.. repair Folder? Mmm, it should be called rebuild index, even in plain English :-P http://raisedbyturtles.org/wp-content/uploads/tb-rebuild-index.png Not sure if that will help with your phantom unread messages, though... wait, I've got some docs for you: Disappearing mail http://kb.mozillazine.org/Disappearing_mail Maybe you can find something there that make your bells ring :-? P.S. Just out of curiosity... does it happen only with imap mailboxes or also with local stored messages? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.11.25...@gmail.com
Re: A question for the list:
Stan Hoeppner wrote: ZephyrQ put forth on 11/4/2010 9:50 PM: If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid), which other distribution would you use and why? What situation are you in that motivates this question? Not a specific situation, merely an exploration. I've been using Debian stable for years. I've tried Ubuntu (in the early years) and Mint. Before Debian I used SuSE. Lately, though, Debian seems 'stale'. I know that Squeeze is coming up the pipe fairly soon; but I'm in process of moving my office and upgrading equipment and am taking opportunity to see what others like besides Debian. I may try out another flavor. I realize that Debian's 'stableness' contributes to its 'staleness', and I like/need that stability as I do a lot of work from home. But I also want to try out some software that is often not supported yet in stable (dependencies, usually) and I don't have time (middle-aged teacher...) to track down fixes/kludges/etc. So I'm looking for a good balance between stability and usability while staying up to date (sort of). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd3ede6.20...@sbcglobal.net
Re: A question for the list:
Klistvud wrote: Dne, 05. 11. 2010 03:50:07 je ZephyrQ napisal(a): If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid), which other distribution would you use and why? gNewSense. How stable/solid is it? I've looked at it and am intrigued... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd3ef76.6060...@sbcglobal.net
Re: lenny thunderbird filters
On 11/05/2010 07:25 AM, Camaleón wrote: ah, I think I found it under folder properties.. repair Folder? Mmm, it should be called rebuild index, even in plain English :-P http://raisedbyturtles.org/wp-content/uploads/tb-rebuild-index.png Not sure if that will help with your phantom unread messages, though... wait, I've got some docs for you: ok, REBUILD, not REPAIR.. yes, I found it- right-click on a folder, select properties. Disappearing mail http://kb.mozillazine.org/Disappearing_mail nice article.. will check out each every problem.. I did NOT have the View Messages item: If you don't have a View - Messages menu command right click on the toolbar, select customize, drag and drop the Mail Views icon to the toolbar and press the OK button. Adding the View combo box to the toolbar adds that menu command. but it was set to ALL. Maybe you can find something there that make your bells ring :-? P.S. Just out of curiosity... does it happen only with imap mailboxes or also with local stored messages? not I am talking ALL local folders. I have fetchmail bring in ALL my email to /var/mail/USER, and thunderbird is set to pull that mail using UNIX movemail. I DO have IMAP folders, I am running Dovecot-imapd. I think I have a cron job to bring in yahoo email using fetchyahoo that brings it in to an IMAP folder, but I RARELY get yahoo email.. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800
Anyone compile Thunderbird (was: Mozilla products in Debian (was: A question for the list:))
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 5:10 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:04:46 +, Chris wrote: How about volatile? :-? ClamAV packages are there for that precisely reason (they need to be updated -security fixes- very often). Why not simply grab the package from mozilla and install under /opt Sent It lacks system integration (plugins et al). Besides, Mozilla does not provide 64-bits builds for stable branch (AFAIK, only nightly builds are available and not for Thunderbird, just Firefox). Greetings, -- Camaleón While we are on the topic, has anyone successfully compiled Thunderbird (on Squeeze 64bit). I have no problems with Firefox, but after my Thunderbird compile, it runs and immediately exits without a word (OK, if complains that: Xlib: extension RANDR missing on display :0.0. , an artifact of running Xinerama, but Firefox also gives that warning with no problem). Stuart
Re: A question for the list:
Dne, 05. 11. 2010 12:43:34 je ZephyrQ napisal(a): I realize that Debian's 'stableness' contributes to its 'staleness', It doesn't just contribute. There's a reason why there's only a small b of difference between staleness and stableness. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1288960286.671...@compax
Re: A question for the list:
Hello, On 05/11/10 19:43, ZephyrQ wrote: Stan Hoeppner wrote: ZephyrQ put forth on 11/4/2010 9:50 PM: If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid), which other distribution would you use and why? What situation are you in that motivates this question? Not a specific situation, merely an exploration. I've been using Debian stable for years. I've tried Ubuntu (in the early years) and Mint. Before Debian I used SuSE. Lately, though, Debian seems 'stale'. I know that Squeeze is coming up the pipe fairly soon; but I'm in process of moving my office and upgrading equipment and am taking opportunity to see what others like besides Debian. I may try out another flavor. I realize that Debian's 'stableness' contributes to its 'staleness', and I like/need that stability as I do a lot of work from home. But I also want to try out some software that is often not supported yet in stable (dependencies, usually) and I don't have time (middle-aged teacher...) to track down fixes/kludges/etc. So I'm looking for a good balance between stability and usability while staying up to date (sort of). quid Debian testing ? Jerome -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd3fa97.10...@rezozer.net
Re: A question for the list:
Dne, 05. 11. 2010 12:50:14 je ZephyrQ napisal(a): gNewSense. How stable/solid is it? I've looked at it and am intrigued... I must have misunderstood your question. I have never tried gNewSense, I was just pointing out that, personally, the only distros I would be willing to try out are distros that are at least as free/libre as Debian. Among the distros I did try out - Knoppix, Ubuntu, OpenSuSE, Mandriva, and some minor ones - there is not a single one I'd be willing to revert to. I guess there's a reason I'm staying with Debian after all ;-) ... Ideological reasons, mostly ... DFSG ... and Debian being a community endeavor ... and having a particularly slow release schedule (yep, while many complain about that, I consider it as being one of Debian's strongest points; go figure) ... and being secure ... and stable ... and being the mother of so many distros ... ;) -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1288961408.671...@compax
Re: Mozilla products in Debian (was: A question for the list:)
In pan.2010.11.05.08.38...@gmail.com, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 00:30:11 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: There is a third choice, I guess: Ship firefox / thunderbird in non-free. Support for non-free is best-effort, which basically means that if upstream is willing to fix it then the security team / maintainers will package it. This basically results in Debian stable's non-free containing software with known security vulnerabilities that Mozilla is unwilling to fix. How about volatile? :-? ClamAV packages are there for that precisely reason (they need to be updated -security fixes- very often). Firstly, only packages that are already in the official repository are included in volatile. Second, volatile is for packages that need frequent, non-security updates to maintain functionality (at least in the eyes of some users). (Updating the virus signature database is not considered a security update.) Thirdly, the policy of no new upstream versions after release isn't changed for volatile. (It is changed for volatile-sloppy.) Finally, updating the Debian package *more often* is the opposite of coming into trademark compliance. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: lenny thunderbird filters
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 07:55:46 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 11/05/2010 07:25 AM, Camaleón wrote: (...) Maybe you can find something there that make your bells ring :-? P.S. Just out of curiosity... does it happen only with imap mailboxes or also with local stored messages? not I am talking ALL local folders. I have fetchmail bring in ALL my email to /var/mail/USER, and thunderbird is set to pull that mail using UNIX movemail. I DO have IMAP folders, I am running Dovecot-imapd. I think I have a cron job to bring in yahoo email using fetchyahoo that brings it in to an IMAP folder, but I RARELY get yahoo email.. An IMAP server (Dovecot) can be run in the local machine but it is still and IMAP account and so having its glitches (it can experience a different behaviour than local ones). Just check if the same happens for local messages. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.12.56...@gmail.com
Re: networkmanager blocking evolution
On 05/11/2010 00:12, Bob Proulx wrote: Johan Scheepers wrote: Standalone laptop using debian squeeze freeze on a dsl modem connected by cable. All my internet applications work but evolution send/receive greyed out. This is another one of those annoying bugs related to network-manager. Evolution online/offline with n-m only works if network-manager controls *all* network devices. If there is an active network device not controlled by n-m then it won't be known and will be marked as offline to Evolution. If you don't need network-manager, and if you are suffering from the problem of n-m not managing your network devices then it would seem that you would not need it, then you can restore Evolution's online capability by removing the network-manager package. Then Evolution won't think it is permanently offline. A number of bugs have been filed on this topic and most of them merged into this one: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=549451 Bob You were correct. Just uninstalled networkmanager and all is fine. Thank you to all that responded Thanks Regards Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd41bbb.4000...@telkomsa.net
Re: A question for the list:
In 20101105090054.gc4...@wasteland.homelinux.net, Jochen Schulz wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.: In 4cd3921a.5090...@optonline.net, Doug wrote: One thing I really _don't_ like about Debian is its fear of the copyright. I really want Thunderbird and Firefox, with their familiar icons, on my screen, not the goofy clones that Debian has come up with. It's not a fear. It's a reality. The Mozilla Foundation contacted Debian Developers and asked them to come into compliance on the trademark usage allowances that Mozilla provides. The funny thing is, AFAIR the trademark license has been changed since then and if I got it right, there is no need for rebranding anymore. :) From http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html: MODIFICATIONS If you're taking full advantage of the open-source nature of Mozilla's products and making significant functional changes, you may not redistribute the fruits of your labor under any Mozilla trademark, without Mozilla's prior written consent. For example, if the product you've modified is Firefox, you may not use Mozilla or Firefox, in whole or in part, in its name. Also, it would be inappropriate for you to say based on Mozilla Firefox. Instead, in the interest of complete accuracy, you could describe your executables as based on Mozilla technology, or incorporating Mozilla source code. In addition, you may want to read the discussion on the Powered by Mozilla logo. In addition, if you compile a modified version, as discussed above, with branding enabled (the default in our source code is branding disabled), you will require Mozilla's prior written permission. If it's not the unmodified installer package from www.mozilla.com, and you want to use our trademark(s), our review and approval of your modifications is required. You also must change the name of the executable so as to reduce the chance that a user of the modified software will be misled into believing it to be a native Mozilla product. Again, any modification to the Mozilla product, including adding to, modifying in any way, or deleting content from the files included with an installer, file location changes, added code, modification of any source files including additions and deletions, etc., will require our permission if you want to use the Mozilla Marks. If you have any doubt, just ask us at tradema...@mozilla.com. Debian's choices were: 1. Seek approval from the Mozilla Foundation for *all* patches. 2. Stop using the trademark. #1 was not an option anyway, because it doesn't comply with the DFSG. Everyone must be allowed to change and distribute Debian without permission from anyone else. I disagree. DFSG point 4 allows conditions like if you modify the source, you must change the name. From http://www.debian.org/social_contract: The license may require derived works to carry a different name or version number from the original software. (This is a compromise. The Debian group encourages all authors not to restrict any files, source or binary, from being modified.) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: A question for the list:
In 4cd3ede6.20...@sbcglobal.net, ZephyrQ wrote: Stan Hoeppner wrote: ZephyrQ put forth on 11/4/2010 9:50 PM: If you could not/did not use Debian (either Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid), which other distribution would you use and why? What situation are you in that motivates this question? Not a specific situation, merely an exploration. I've been using Debian stable for years. I've tried Ubuntu (in the early years) and Mint. Before Debian I used SuSE. Lately, though, Debian seems 'stale'. I know that Squeeze is coming up the pipe fairly soon; but I'm in process of moving my office and upgrading equipment and am taking opportunity to see what others like besides Debian. I may try out another flavor. A mixed system! http://iguanasuicide.net/node/4 -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: A question for the list:
ZephyrQ writes: Lately, though, Debian seems 'stale'. If you are talking about a desktop and want to be on the bleeding edge use Unstable. It's quite usable. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8739rgylmw@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: Mozilla products in Debian (was: A question for the list:)
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 07:54:29 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In pan.2010.11.05.08.38...@gmail.com, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 00:30:11 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: There is a third choice, I guess: Ship firefox / thunderbird in non-free. Support for non-free is best-effort, which basically means that if upstream is willing to fix it then the security team / maintainers will package it. This basically results in Debian stable's non-free containing software with known security vulnerabilities that Mozilla is unwilling to fix. How about volatile? :-? ClamAV packages are there for that precisely reason (they need to be updated -security fixes- very often). Firstly, only packages that are already in the official repository are included in volatile. Icedove and Iceweasel are. Second, volatile is for packages that need frequent, non-security updates to maintain functionality (at least in the eyes of some users). (Updating the virus signature database is not considered a security update.) AFAIK, ClamAV packages are fully upgraded (not only for fetching new signatures but the whole program). Thirdly, the policy of no new upstream versions after release isn't changed for volatile. (It is changed for volatile-sloppy.) And that is what people wants to be improved :-) Finally, updating the Debian package *more often* is the opposite of coming into trademark compliance. You know what other non-rolling distros do in this case: stock versions of the programs remain unchanged and maintained for the time the distribution is supported but in pararel there are satellite repositories/ forges where users can get upgraded versions of the most used programs (OOo suite, Mozilla products, etc...). These are not backported apps but newly builds matching each version. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.13.13...@gmail.com
Re: A question for the list:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/5/10 8:56 AM, John Hasler wrote: ZephyrQ writes: Lately, though, Debian seems 'stale'. If you are talking about a desktop and want to be on the bleeding edge use Unstable. It's quite usable. Consider installing apt-listbugs if you're going to run sid. It gives you a little list of bugs against packages you're installing/upgrading so you can decide if you want to go through with the install. I've been saved from catastrophe more then once by that little package. Drew -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM1APYAAoJEEaDz7AcIUia3agH/jF8bmJJQ1y2nI2//HxeZi5R 4SHFzQniTZwwFTy+nkRBqCBQUNoCkATMLdmxa9At/jSViEfSWlV4r7s7uKdajJ4A fSaXrykkVHJHnvxbXcV9Q+13WDtbB6A65wwykzDIqFza8eZKgO5mmaclpdT2bQ52 eNIKxTct7I2DeKS6aimGzVthrsvwA0ubCG5GQw/LCOCimQa/FnDwA4x2Lv+1WuSe qZY4+cbdPevjj2ajdQjRjzbeteTV7xpyMfoaTrA5scSfSAn+XplJr8XXM5Xq0MKd fCUVUCIweC1kUn9MbYLBXSEKe4rCZF/jDohB0jvXSFvXyZHyPlSEE1BF0gpAYqA= =5ilR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd403d8.50...@walrusgroup.com
Re: Mozilla products in Debian (was: A question for the list:)
On Friday 05 November 2010 08:13:41 Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 07:54:29 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In pan.2010.11.05.08.38...@gmail.com, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 00:30:11 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: There is a third choice, I guess: Ship firefox / thunderbird in non-free. Support for non-free is best-effort, which basically means that if upstream is willing to fix it then the security team / maintainers will package it. This basically results in Debian stable's non-free containing software with known security vulnerabilities that Mozilla is unwilling to fix. How about volatile? :-? ClamAV packages are there for that precisely reason (they need to be updated -security fixes- very often). Firstly, only packages that are already in the official repository are included in volatile. Icedove and Iceweasel are. Yes, but the original request was for Firefox and Thunderbird. Second, volatile is for packages that need frequent, non-security updates to maintain functionality (at least in the eyes of some users). (Updating the virus signature database is not considered a security update.) AFAIK, ClamAV packages are fully upgraded (not only for fetching new signatures but the whole program). In any case, they are not security upgrades in the Debian sense. They do not fix vulnerabilities in the ClamAV package. FWIW, even ClamAV in volatile avoids new upstream versions unless old versions are unable to function. Thirdly, the policy of no new upstream versions after release isn't changed for volatile. (It is changed for volatile-sloppy.) And that is what people wants to be improved :-) No. That's NOT what those who know and love Debian stable want. The lack of upstream changes is one of the main reasons I use stable on servers. Finally, updating the Debian package *more often* is the opposite of coming into trademark compliance. You know what other non-rolling distros do in this case: stock versions of the programs remain unchanged and maintained for the time the distribution is supported but in pararel there are satellite repositories/ forges. 1. Backports contains new upstream versions compiled in a released Debian environment. When Squeeze is released we should have an official backports service. 2. No one is preventing anyone from creating such repositories. Debian is a volunteer project. Existing DDs seem to like the status quo at least to some degree (existing policy can be changed if there is sufficent support for a change). New volunteers can work on whatever they like and the process of becoming a DD is well-documented and always open. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: lenny thunderbird filters-SOLVED!
On 11/05/2010 04:15 AM, Camaleón wrote: Also, you can try (just in case) to rebuild index and/or compacting the offending folder. Thunderbird (Icedove) sometimes can go nuts with its internal bd and hides e-mails or does weird things :-) ok, I JUST had a new message in a folder. Hit N to go to it. The folder still showed (1) new message. Right-clicked on the folder hit COMPACT FOLDER. BAM! new message indicator disappeared. I'll bet I can recreate that.. every...time.. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd41540.3010...@pcartwright.com
Re: lenny thunderbird filters
On 11/05/2010 08:56 AM, Camaleón wrote: An IMAP server (Dovecot) can be run in the local machine but it is still and IMAP account and so having its glitches (it can experience a different behaviour than local ones). Just check if the same happens for local messages. MOST of the problems with the New message indicator were on local folders.. actually ALL issues were.. but the problem has been found. click COMPACT FOLDER problem goes away, even while I am in that (local) folder with the (1) showing. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd415a2.8040...@pcartwright.com
Re: Mozilla products in Debian (was: A question for the list:)
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:10:44 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Friday 05 November 2010 08:13:41 Camaleón wrote: Thirdly, the policy of no new upstream versions after release isn't changed for volatile. (It is changed for volatile-sloppy.) And that is what people wants to be improved :-) No. That's NOT what those who know and love Debian stable want. The lack of upstream changes is one of the main reasons I use stable on servers. What happens with Mozilla packages (more exactly with Firefox/Iceweasel) is that upstream version correct security flaws, meaning that right now, Debian's lenny stock version of Iceweasel is vulnerable to lots of holes because Mozilla does not provide support nor pacthes for 3.0.x branch. Leaving your users base with a vulnerable browser is not very sane. I see only one reason to force the upgrade of a stock package with a newer version and is precisely the lack of support (nor patches) from upstream packager. Hopefully there is backports holding these packages, but for Mozilla products (which are included in the regular repo) should not be needed - to be backported- at all: lenny users should have received 3.5 release by means of the security repo. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.14.38...@gmail.com
Re: Mozilla products in Debian (was: A question for the list:)
Dne, 05. 11. 2010 15:10:44 je Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. napisal(a): No. That's NOT what those who know and love Debian stable want. The lack of upstream changes is one of the main reasons I use stable on servers. +1 You can say that again. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1288968132.671...@compax
Re: Problems configuring wireless with wicd on amd64 lenny
From: Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen kjetil1...@gmail.co. Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 22:27:45 -0300 ... wicd does not recognize the wireless network Do you have a twisted pair adapter for the machine? PCMCIA or USB. Might help to get a wired connection working first. Regards, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. 7785886232 is gone. Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive; installation of NetBSD on new drives pending. Personal pages, http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171056677.31829.30...@cantor.invalid
Re: Problems configuring wireless with wicd on amd64 lenny
see below. On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:07, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Jo, 04 nov 10, 22:27:45, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: I have just installed lenny from cd-1 (5.0.6), but I cannot get wireless network to work. I have installed wicd from lenny-backports, and followed the instructions on the page http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse but wicd does not recognize the wireless network (which is there, I am sending this via it, from a live cd of ubuntu). My cristal ball says you are missing some firmware package specific to your wireless card or you need a newer kernel. Please post the output of 'lspci -nn' and 'dmesg | grep -i firmware' on the Lenny system. output of lspci -nn : 00:00.0 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation MCP67 Memory Controller [10de:0547] (rev a2) 00:01.0 ISA bridge [0601]: nVidia Corporation MCP67 ISA Bridge [10de:0548] (rev a2) 00:01.1 SMBus [0c05]: nVidia Corporation MCP67 SMBus [10de:0542] (rev a2) 00:01.2 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation MCP67 Memory Controller [10de:0541] (rev a2) 00:01.3 Co-processor [0b40]: nVidia Corporation MCP67 Co-processor [10de:0543] (rev a2) 00:02.0 USB Controller [0c03]: nVidia Corporation MCP67 OHCI USB 1.1 Controller [10de:055e] (rev a2) 00:02.1 USB Controller [0c03]: nVidia Corporation MCP67 EHCI USB 2.0 Controller [10de:055f] (rev a2) 00:04.0 USB Controller [0c03]: nVidia Corporation MCP67 OHCI USB 1.1 Controller [10de:055e] (rev a2) 00:04.1 USB Controller [0c03]: nVidia Corporation MCP67 EHCI USB 2.0 Controller [10de:055f] (rev a2) 00:06.0 IDE interface [0101]: nVidia Corporation MCP67 IDE Controller [10de:0560] (rev a1) 00:07.0 Audio device [0403]: nVidia Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio [10de:055c] (rev a1) 00:08.0 PCI bridge [0604]: nVidia Corporation MCP67 PCI Bridge [10de:0561] (rev a2) 00:09.0 IDE interface [0101]: nVidia Corporation MCP67 AHCI Controller [10de:0550] (rev a2) 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: nVidia Corporation MCP67 Ethernet [10de:054c] (rev a2) 00:0c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: nVidia Corporation MCP67 PCI Express Bridge [10de:0563] (rev a2) 00:0d.0 PCI bridge [0604]: nVidia Corporation MCP67 PCI Express Bridge [10de:0563] (rev a2) 00:12.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7150M [10de:0531] (rev a2) 00:18.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration [1022:1100] 00:18.1 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map [1022:1101] 00:18.2 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller [1022:1102] 00:18.3 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control [1022:1103] 02:05.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394) [0c00]: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller [1180:0832] (rev 05) 02:05.1 SD Host controller [0805]: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter [1180:0822] (rev 22) 02:05.2 System peripheral [0880]: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 MMC Host Controller [1180:0843] (rev 12) 02:05.3 System peripheral [0880]: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter [1180:0592] (rev 12) 02:05.4 System peripheral [0880]: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller [1180:0852] (rev ff) 03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter [168c:001c] (rev 01) output od dmesg º grep -i `firmware` is nothing --- blank. I give the total (large) output of dmesg at the ver end of this message. Kjetil Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJM0+V+AAoJEHNWs3jeoi3phWIIALgfrrwshnPUPcVUMWIrlhrb tTO2pZzGeTgWByMYQ3TfbMI7mF9mJwAaK0IQv5vrjz0rjQ8lJneQKoPWk+g302aQ SnXV+ZP/46aSEl6ZjjrqRAmUfWUeniPbFYanUxUg31tMh1qfODtqkS1Daei8ZPmm DhOvEogWh4tiH/kgSxnasqaR0T47GH0qHRdCq0pIuxTutV2MrXcvGlcHTAYQta+X asqp9LIc0LbMlg2evCC6tCUZ707WsxzQa0zy1nbiqvUOuA/W80zMeHkpyU6/Km/3 LlhSZFGHU1lT3znySgvbtYcYvfuRvMAV+HPXiEb3xJD+Bbq230xl817DPS2enTA= =1kjw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- If you want a picture of the future - imagine a boot stamping on the human face - forever. George Orwell (1984) [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu [0.00] Linux version 2.6.26-2-amd64 (Debian 2.6.26-25lenny1) (da...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.3 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.2-25)) #1 SMP Thu Sep 16 15:56:38 UTC 2010 [0.00] Command line: root=UUID=7c58dea8-7e9f-4885-bc54-317fec47f06b ro quiet [0.00] BIOS-provided physical RAM map: [0.00] BIOS-e820: - 0009e000 (usable) [0.00] BIOS-e820: 0009e000 - 000a (reserved) [0.00] BIOS-e820: 000d2000 - 0010 (reserved) [0.00] BIOS-e820: 0010 - 7bf5
Re: A question for the list:
Drew writes: Consider installing apt-listbugs if you're going to run sid. Good point. Also, don't feel that you should track Unstable. Upgrade individual packages as needed and do an occasional dist-upgrade if you feel the need to clean things up. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87y697yf2r@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: Problems configuring wireless with wicd on amd64 lenny
On Vi, 05 nov 10, 15:12:28, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: see below. 03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter [168c:001c] (rev 01) [8.953484] ath5k_pci :03:00.0: registered as 'phy0' [8.958255] ath5k phy0: Support for RF2425 is under development. [8.996575] phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'pid' ... [9.277825] ath5k phy0: Atheros AR2425 chip found (MAC: 0xe2, PHY: 0x70) Nothing unusual here [ 220.783933] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready But it doesn't associate. I assume you double-checked your configuration, especially the passphrase, or switch your AP temporarily to allow connections without encryption. You could also try a newer kernel from backports. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: lenny thunderbird filters-SOLVED!
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 10:31:28 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 11/05/2010 04:15 AM, Camaleón wrote: Also, you can try (just in case) to rebuild index and/or compacting the offending folder. Thunderbird (Icedove) sometimes can go nuts with its internal bd and hides e-mails or does weird things :-) ok, I JUST had a new message in a folder. Hit N to go to it. The folder still showed (1) new message. Right-clicked on the folder hit COMPACT FOLDER. BAM! new message indicator disappeared. Oh... good :-) I'll bet I can recreate that.. every...time.. You can set auto-compact your folders by defining so under Preferences/ advanced/network and disk space. Compacting is another of the annoyances of Thunderbird but is a must- do task (if you avoid doing so your mailbox files will grow, and grow and grow... because deleted e-mails are not really deteleted until you - maually or automatically- hit the compact button). And that remembers me the third of the Thunderbird's annoyances: storage files for each folder cannot go beyong 4 GiB). More interesting reading: Compacting folders http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_:_Tips_:_Compacting_Folders Limits - Thunderbird http://kb.mozillazine.org/Limits_(Thunderbird) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.05.15.43...@gmail.com
Re: A question for the list:
On Vi, 05 nov 10, 10:18:04, John Hasler wrote: Drew writes: Consider installing apt-listbugs if you're going to run sid. Good point. Also, don't feel that you should track Unstable. Upgrade individual packages as needed and do an occasional dist-upgrade if you feel the need to clean things up. Still, upgrading too seldom can make the upgrade more painful, even for testing. YMMV, of course. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: lenny thunderbird filters-SOLVED!
On 11/05/2010 11:43 AM, Camaleón wrote: You can set auto-compact your folders by defining so under Preferences/ advanced/network and disk space. thank you!! Compacting is another of the annoyances of Thunderbird but is a must- do task (if you avoid doing so your mailbox files will grow, and grow and grow... because deleted e-mails are not really deteleted until you - maually or automatically- hit the compact button). And that remembers me the third of the Thunderbird's annoyances: storage files for each folder cannot go beyong 4 GiB). oh, ow, I did not know that. so, is archiving the answer? I've been afraid to archive, because I didn't know where the old messages go:) NOTE, now I do know where they go: http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/Archived+messages the 4GiB limit also goes for archived though, so.. what do you do? More interesting reading: Compacting folders http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_:_Tips_:_Compacting_Folders Limits - Thunderbird http://kb.mozillazine.org/Limits_(Thunderbird) thanks, good info! -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd42852.5050...@pcartwright.com
Re: A question for the list:
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Vi, 05 nov 10, 10:18:04, John Hasler wrote: Drew writes: Consider installing apt-listbugs if you're going to run sid. Good point. Also, don't feel that you should track Unstable. Upgrade individual packages as needed and do an occasional dist-upgrade if you feel the need to clean things up. Still, upgrading too seldom can make the upgrade more painful, even for testing. YMMV, of course. I hate to ask the question this way, but in terms of problems/fixes/downtime--approximately how often do you find that you have to 'fix' something in Sid? 1x week, 1x month? (I know that my MMV, but if I start playing with either testing or unstable, I don't want to get into a problem/find fix/fix lather/rinse/repeat cycle too often). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd428af.70...@sbcglobal.net
Re: Mozilla products in Debian
On 2010-11-05 15:38 +0100, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:10:44 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Friday 05 November 2010 08:13:41 Camaleón wrote: Thirdly, the policy of no new upstream versions after release isn't changed for volatile. (It is changed for volatile-sloppy.) And that is what people wants to be improved :-) No. That's NOT what those who know and love Debian stable want. The lack of upstream changes is one of the main reasons I use stable on servers. What happens with Mozilla packages (more exactly with Firefox/Iceweasel) is that upstream version correct security flaws, meaning that right now, Debian's lenny stock version of Iceweasel is vulnerable to lots of holes because Mozilla does not provide support nor pacthes for 3.0.x branch. That is true, but the Debian iceweasel/xulrunner maintainer and the security team backport security fixes. Note that most of the problems are not specific to iceweasel and affect all browsers based on xulrunner, so they are fixed in the xulrunner-1.9 package which is updated rather frequently. Leaving your users base with a vulnerable browser is not very sane. Yes, but does iceweasel in lenny actually have big security problems? The Debian security tracker¹ lists only one unfixed problem that is hardly critical². I see only one reason to force the upgrade of a stock package with a newer version and is precisely the lack of support (nor patches) from upstream packager. But for Mozilla based packages the patches are available, it's just that they are in a different branch and have to be backported. This may not be ideal, but the situation is hardly worse than with the Linux kernel. Hopefully there is backports holding these packages, but for Mozilla products (which are included in the regular repo) should not be needed - to be backported- at all: lenny users should have received 3.5 release by means of the security repo. So that half of their installed extensions are broken after the upgrade? Does not seem to be a very good idea to me. Sven ¹ http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/iceweasel ² http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2009-0777 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87pquj7oc2@turtle.gmx.de
Re: Problems configuring wireless with wicd on amd64 lenny
Hi,
wicd just parses the outputs of ifconfig/iwconfig/iwlist/wpa_supplicant
commands. Maybe manually executing this sequence may help you to spot
the problem. Here it goes:
# ifconfig wlan0 up
Now, you should be able to see the available list accessible APs:
# iwlist wlan0 scan
If everything is ok so far, proceed to next.
# iwconfig wlan0 essid ESSID
Than create an entry in your /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
file. Take mine as an example:
# cat /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
...
network={
ssid=ESSID
psk=PASSPHRASE
}
Now cross your fingers and hope wpa_supplicant do the rest:
# wpa_supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -i wlan0 -d
The debugging output should tell you more. Inform us about the progress,
maybe we can help you further.
Regards.
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