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Re: Squeeze : plus de wifi après mise à jour
Raphaël POITEVIN a écrit : Le 21/01/11, pascatgmpasca...@gmail.com a écrit : N'ayant toujours pas réussi à faire fonctionner le wifi...Je reviens vers la liste un peu découragé... P. Ne te décourages pas. Si on résume, parce que je n'ai pas gardé tous les messages, comment, quelles commandes fais-tu pour te connecter ? Raphaël A vrai dire; lorsque le wifi fonctionnait je laissais le network manager s'occuper de tout ça en DHCP en ayant juste rempli les cases SSID et encryption key. Mais depuis la mise à jour funeste où tout s'est arrêté j'ai essayé de faire fonctionner le wifi en en remplissant simplement le fichier /etc:network/interfaces : iface wlan0 inet static address 192.168.1.55 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 network 192.168.1.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 wireless-essid XXX wireless-key XXX et de vérifier tout cela à l'aide de lspci , lsmod (pour vérifier si tout était bien reconnu) iwconfig, ifconfig et route -n pour voir ce que ca donnait. Pas grand chose donc jusqu'à maintenant. J'ai également totalement désactivé network-manager pour éviter d'éventuels conflits. Je dois avouer une certaine ignorance au niveau du wifi mais les différents tutos que j'ai pu trouver sont assez succincts en général. quant à wpa-supplicant je ne savais aps qu'il fallait le configurer. Merci de ton aide. P. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3a96df.9090...@gmail.com
Re: Squeeze : plus de wifi après mise à jour
Bonjour, Le samedi 22 janvier 2011, Raphaël POITEVIN a écrit... As-tu configuré ton wpa_supplicant ? je vais avoir du mal à te donner une config pour ça car chez moi c'est du wpa. Mais ça ne doit pas être bien différent. Dans la doc de wpa_supplicant, il y a des exemples. Tu peux t'en inspirer. Il me semble qu'il faut également rajouter quelque chose dans le fichier interfaces concernant la clé (wpa_key ??). Je ne peux t'en dire plus, je n'ai pas le portable sous la main. Mais je sais que j'y étais arrivé comme ça. -- jm -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110122085933.GA22442@espinasse
Re: Squeeze : plus de wifi après mise à jour
Bonjour, Le samedi 22 janvier 2011, pascatgm a écrit... Mais depuis la mise à jour funeste où tout s'est arrêté j'ai essayé de faire fonctionner le wifi en en remplissant simplement le fichier /etc:network/interfaces : iface wlan0 inet static address 192.168.1.55 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 network 192.168.1.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 wireless-essid XXX wireless-key XXX Et en dhcp ? -- jm -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110122090011.GB22442@espinasse
Re: Squeeze : plus de wifi après mise à jour
Le 22/01/2011 09:35, pascatgm a écrit : Raphaël POITEVIN a écrit : Le 21/01/11, pascatgmpasca...@gmail.com a écrit : N'ayant toujours pas réussi à faire fonctionner le wifi...Je reviens vers la liste un peu découragé... P. Ne te décourages pas. Si on résume, parce que je n'ai pas gardé tous les messages, comment, quelles commandes fais-tu pour te connecter ? Raphaël A vrai dire; lorsque le wifi fonctionnait je laissais le network manager s'occuper de tout ça en DHCP en ayant juste rempli les cases SSID et encryption key. Mais depuis la mise à jour funeste où tout s'est arrêté j'ai essayé de faire fonctionner le wifi en en remplissant simplement le fichier /etc:network/interfaces : iface wlan0 inet static address 192.168.1.55 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 network 192.168.1.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 wireless-essid XXX wireless-key XXX et de vérifier tout cela à l'aide de lspci , lsmod (pour vérifier si tout était bien reconnu) iwconfig, ifconfig et route -n pour voir ce que ca donnait. Pas grand chose donc jusqu'à maintenant. J'ai également totalement désactivé network-manager pour éviter d'éventuels conflits. Je dois avouer une certaine ignorance au niveau du wifi mais les différents tutos que j'ai pu trouver sont assez succincts en général. quant à wpa-supplicant je ne savais aps qu'il fallait le configurer. Merci de ton aide. P. Bonjour, as-tu essayé de purger totalement NetworkManager et installer wicd (en téléchargeant les paquets et dépendances de wicd depuis une autre machine par exemple), après avoir commenté toutes les entrées dans /etc/network/interfaces sauf celle pour la boucle locale ? D'après mon expérience avec NM, s'il n'est pas purgé il te met toujours des bâtons dans les roues. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3a9d7d.4080...@googlemail.com
rsync
Bonjour a tous, est ce que rsync supprime les fichiers sur la destination qui ne sont pas sur la source? Dans mon cas cela se produit, y a t il moyen de lui dire de ne pas le faire? Merci, a+ -- Fabien LUCE Jabber ID: f...@lutix.org Identi.ca: http://identi.ca/ftg Web: www.lutix.org -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110122090526.gn7...@serveur.lutix.org
Re: Squeeze : plus de wifi après mise à jour
Jean-Michel OLTRA a écrit : Bonjour, Le samedi 22 janvier 2011, pascatgm a écrit... Mais depuis la mise à jour funeste où tout s'est arrêté j'ai essayé de faire fonctionner le wifi en en remplissant simplement le fichier /etc:network/interfaces : iface wlan0 inet static address 192.168.1.55 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 network 192.168.1.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 wireless-essid XXX wireless-key XXX Et en dhcp ? Ca ralentit considérablement le processus de démarrage et j'ai ça dans les logs : No DHCPOFFERS received et le traditionnel No working leases in persistent database. (je prie d'excuser l'auto-citation!) P. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3a9e27.3090...@gmail.com
Re: Squeeze : plus de wifi après mise à jour
tv.deb...@googlemail.com a écrit : Le 22/01/2011 09:35, pascatgm a écrit : Raphaël POITEVIN a écrit : Le 21/01/11, pascatgmpasca...@gmail.com a écrit : N'ayant toujours pas réussi à faire fonctionner le wifi...Je reviens vers la liste un peu découragé... P. Ne te décourages pas. Si on résume, parce que je n'ai pas gardé tous les messages, comment, quelles commandes fais-tu pour te connecter ? Raphaël A vrai dire; lorsque le wifi fonctionnait je laissais le network manager s'occuper de tout ça en DHCP en ayant juste rempli les cases SSID et encryption key. Mais depuis la mise à jour funeste où tout s'est arrêté j'ai essayé de faire fonctionner le wifi en en remplissant simplement le fichier /etc:network/interfaces : iface wlan0 inet static address 192.168.1.55 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 network 192.168.1.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 wireless-essid XXX wireless-key XXX et de vérifier tout cela à l'aide de lspci , lsmod (pour vérifier si tout était bien reconnu) iwconfig, ifconfig et route -n pour voir ce que ca donnait. Pas grand chose donc jusqu'à maintenant. J'ai également totalement désactivé network-manager pour éviter d'éventuels conflits. Je dois avouer une certaine ignorance au niveau du wifi mais les différents tutos que j'ai pu trouver sont assez succincts en général. quant à wpa-supplicant je ne savais aps qu'il fallait le configurer. Merci de ton aide. P. Bonjour, as-tu essayé de purger totalement NetworkManager et installer wicd (en téléchargeant les paquets et dépendances de wicd depuis une autre machine par exemple), après avoir commenté toutes les entrées dans /etc/network/interfaces sauf celle pour la boucle locale ? D'après mon expérience avec NM, s'il n'est pas purgé il te met toujours des bâtons dans les roues. Bonjour, Non je n'ai pas essayé. J'ai la possibilité de me connecter directement par ethernet à la LB. Qu'appelles-tu purger ? apt-get remove --purge carrément ? Merci. P. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3a9ea8.1040...@gmail.com
Re: Squeeze : plus de wifi après mise à jour
Jean-Michel OLTRA a écrit : Bonjour, Le samedi 22 janvier 2011, Raphaël POITEVIN a écrit... As-tu configuré ton wpa_supplicant ? je vais avoir du mal à te donner une config pour ça car chez moi c'est du wpa. Mais ça ne doit pas être bien différent. Dans la doc de wpa_supplicant, il y a des exemples. Tu peux t'en inspirer. Il me semble qu'il faut également rajouter quelque chose dans le fichier interfaces concernant la clé (wpa_key ??). Je ne peux t'en dire plus, je n'ai pas le portable sous la main. Mais je sais que j'y étais arrivé comme ça. Ok merci. Je vais regarder wpa-supplicant. La notification de la clé dans /etc/network/interfaces ne suffit pas ? Ce que je n'arrive pas à comprendre (parce que vraisemblablement je ne comprends pas le processus des connections wifi) c'est que iwconfig montre que la carte est associée...Mais que rien ne passe. Ca me fait penser à une erreur de config. Mais en l'état (piteux) de mes connaissances ds le domaine, je peux me tromper ! -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3a9fe4.4020...@gmail.com
Re: rsync
Le samedi 22 janvier 2011 10:05:27, Fabien LUCE a écrit : Bonjour a tous, est ce que rsync supprime les fichiers sur la destination qui ne sont pas sur la source? Dans mon cas cela se produit, y a t il moyen de lui dire de ne pas le faire? Merci, a+ Salut, à ma connaissance, rsync ne le fait pas si tu n'utilises pas l'option --delete . ciao Klaus -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101221028.37094.colon...@free.fr
Re: rsync
Bonjour, Bonsoir, Le Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:05:27 +0100, Fabien LUCE, vous avez écrit : Bonjour a tous, est ce que rsync supprime les fichiers sur la destination qui ne sont pas sur la source? Dans mon cas cela se produit, y a t il moyen de lui dire de ne pas le faire? Merci, a+ supprimer, dans la ligne de commande les --delete-* (ou dans /etc/rsyncd.conf) -- Cordialement Grégory BULOT -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110122103057.303b0...@morpheus.bulot-fr.com
Re: clé wifi TPLINK TL-WN722N
Chez moi, une clé wifi TPLINK TL-WN321G, module = RT73, si ça peut t'aider ... -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101221117.28145.cor...@free.fr
Re: Squeeze : plus de wifi après mise à jour
Le Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:14:12 +0100, pascatgm a écrit : [...] Ok merci. Je vais regarder wpa-supplicant. La notification de la clé dans /etc/network/interfaces ne suffit pas ? Ce que je n'arrive pas à comprendre (parce que vraisemblablement je ne comprends pas le processus des connections wifi) c'est que iwconfig montre que la carte est associée...Mais que rien ne passe. Ca me fait penser à une erreur de config. Mais en l'état (piteux) de mes connaissances ds le domaine, je peux me tromper ! La configuration de la carte wifi avec sa clé wep dans le fichier /etc/network/interfaces suffit (Cf. man wireless). En revanche (je n'ai pas tout suivi), y a t-il assoociation avec le point d'accès? Que donnent les commandes suivantes: # iwconfig # iwlist wlan0 scanning Autrement, un truc con qui m'est déjà arrivé: il y a parfois un petit interrupteur qui bloque le wifi (ou parfois via une combinaison de touches Fn+F8 sur mon portable, qui lui a un interrupteur +la combinaison de touches), alors qu'on a le sentiment que tout fonctionne (modules chargés mais wifi inutilisable). Je viens encore de le vérifier sur mon portable: j'ai coupé le wifi avec l'interrupteur mais j'ai toujours l'interface wlan0 et je peux lui attribuer une adresse IP mais, évidemment, le wifi ne fonctionne pas. Sinon, peut être que cette page pourra te donner des pistes: http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi A+ -- Px -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110122111407.32565e33@lucifer
Re: Squeeze : plus de wifi après mise à jour
Le 22/01/2011 10:08, pascatgm a écrit : tv.deb...@googlemail.com a écrit : Bonjour, as-tu essayé de purger totalement NetworkManager et installer wicd (en téléchargeant les paquets et dépendances de wicd depuis une autre machine par exemple), après avoir commenté toutes les entrées dans /etc/network/interfaces sauf celle pour la boucle locale ? D'après mon expérience avec NM, s'il n'est pas purgé il te met toujours des bâtons dans les roues. Bonjour, Non je n'ai pas essayé. J'ai la possibilité de me connecter directement par ethernet à la LB. Qu'appelles-tu purger ? apt-get remove --purge carrément ? Merci. P. Oui, chez moi c'est aptitude purge mais avec apt-get ça marche aussi. J'ai eu des problèmes plusieurs fois avec NM et sans une purge des paquets il reste souvent en travers du chemin. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3ab335.5020...@googlemail.com
Re: Squeeze : plus de wifi après mise à jour
Le samedi 22 janvier 2011 10:08:56, pascatgm a écrit : tv.deb...@googlemail.com a écrit : Le 22/01/2011 09:35, pascatgm a écrit : Raphaël POITEVIN a écrit : Le 21/01/11, pascatgmpasca...@gmail.com a écrit : N'ayant toujours pas réussi à faire fonctionner le wifi...Je reviens vers la liste un peu découragé... P. Ne te décourages pas. Si on résume, parce que je n'ai pas gardé tous les messages, comment, quelles commandes fais-tu pour te connecter ? Raphaël A vrai dire; lorsque le wifi fonctionnait je laissais le network manager s'occuper de tout ça en DHCP en ayant juste rempli les cases SSID et encryption key. Mais depuis la mise à jour funeste où tout s'est arrêté j'ai essayé de faire fonctionner le wifi en en remplissant simplement le fichier /etc:network/interfaces : iface wlan0 inet static address 192.168.1.55 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 network 192.168.1.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 wireless-essid XXX wireless-key XXX et de vérifier tout cela à l'aide de lspci , lsmod (pour vérifier si tout était bien reconnu) iwconfig, ifconfig et route -n pour voir ce que ca donnait. Pas grand chose donc jusqu'à maintenant. J'ai également totalement désactivé network-manager pour éviter d'éventuels conflits. Je dois avouer une certaine ignorance au niveau du wifi mais les différents tutos que j'ai pu trouver sont assez succincts en général. quant à wpa-supplicant je ne savais aps qu'il fallait le configurer. Merci de ton aide. P. Bonjour, as-tu essayé de purger totalement NetworkManager et installer wicd (en téléchargeant les paquets et dépendances de wicd depuis une autre machine par exemple), après avoir commenté toutes les entrées dans /etc/network/interfaces sauf celle pour la boucle locale ? D'après mon expérience avec NM, s'il n'est pas purgé il te met toujours des bâtons dans les roues. Bonjour, Non je n'ai pas essayé. J'ai la possibilité de me connecter directement par ethernet à la LB. Qu'appelles-tu purger ? apt-get remove --purge carrément ? Merci. P. Je confirme wicd est une excellente solution ,tu peux choisir ton type de connexion ethernet wifi ou carte ethernet. Pour moi essayer c'est l'adopter. A+ Philippe -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101221138.41087.phil-deb1.mer...@laposte.net
Re: rsync
Bonjour, On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:05:27AM +0100, Fabien LUCE wrote: Bonjour a tous, est ce que rsync supprime les fichiers sur la destination qui ne sont pas sur la source? Dans mon cas cela se produit, y a t il moyen de lui dire de ne pas le faire? Merci, a+ à mon avis, le plus sûr est d'utiliser conjointement, dans un premier temps, les options --dry-run --delete -- Pierre Meurisse -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110122114233.GA5317@asusqueeze.bureau.maison
Re: Squeeze : plus de wifi après mise à jour
Courrier Debian a écrit : Le samedi 22 janvier 2011 10:08:56, pascatgm a écrit : tv.deb...@googlemail.com a écrit : Le 22/01/2011 09:35, pascatgm a écrit : Raphaël POITEVIN a écrit : Le 21/01/11, pascatgmpasca...@gmail.com a écrit : N'ayant toujours pas réussi à faire fonctionner le wifi...Je reviens vers la liste un peu découragé... P. Ne te décourages pas. Si on résume, parce que je n'ai pas gardé tous les messages, comment, quelles commandes fais-tu pour te connecter ? Raphaël A vrai dire; lorsque le wifi fonctionnait je laissais le network manager s'occuper de tout ça en DHCP en ayant juste rempli les cases SSID et encryption key. Mais depuis la mise à jour funeste où tout s'est arrêté j'ai essayé de faire fonctionner le wifi en en remplissant simplement le fichier /etc:network/interfaces : iface wlan0 inet static address 192.168.1.55 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 network 192.168.1.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 wireless-essid XXX wireless-key XXX et de vérifier tout cela à l'aide de lspci , lsmod (pour vérifier si tout était bien reconnu) iwconfig, ifconfig et route -n pour voir ce que ca donnait. Pas grand chose donc jusqu'à maintenant. J'ai également totalement désactivé network-manager pour éviter d'éventuels conflits. Je dois avouer une certaine ignorance au niveau du wifi mais les différents tutos que j'ai pu trouver sont assez succincts en général. quant à wpa-supplicant je ne savais aps qu'il fallait le configurer. Merci de ton aide. P. Bonjour, as-tu essayé de purger totalement NetworkManager et installer wicd (en téléchargeant les paquets et dépendances de wicd depuis une autre machine par exemple), après avoir commenté toutes les entrées dans /etc/network/interfaces sauf celle pour la boucle locale ? D'après mon expérience avec NM, s'il n'est pas purgé il te met toujours des bâtons dans les roues. Bonjour, Non je n'ai pas essayé. J'ai la possibilité de me connecter directement par ethernet à la LB. Qu'appelles-tu purger ? apt-get remove --purge carrément ? Merci. P. Je confirme wicd est une excellente solution ,tu peux choisir ton type de connexion ethernet wifi ou carte ethernet. Pour moi essayer c'est l'adopter. A+ Philippe Merci à tous pour vos réponses... En ce qui concerne l'activation ou non de la carte j'y ai pensé et j'avais installé rfkill qui permet de savoir si la carte est en service matériellement ou pas ... Je m'étais fait avoir une fois... les commandes iwconfig montre que la carte est associée, iwlist liste bien le point d'accès et ses différents canaux (et ceux des voisins). Et je viens de remarquer qu'un certain nombre de paquets sont envoyés mais qu'aucun n'est reçu en retour. Pourtant l'adresse mac de la carte est bien listée dans les périph associés de la Live Box. En ce qui concerne NM je crois que je vais suivre vos conseils : le virer et installer wicd.Je fais ça et je vous tiens au courant. Avec tous mes remerciements encore une fois. P. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3ac334.80...@gmail.com
Re: Commande find
On Friday 21 January 2011 à 08:16:15AM, Fabien LUCE wrote:
Bonjour à tous!
2 petites questions à propos de la commande find.
1) pourquoi find / -name *test* -mtime +7 -print0 ne se comporte pas comme
find / -print0 -name *test* -mtime +7 ? En d'autres termes: le paramètre
d'action print0 doit il toujours etre à la fin de la commande? Si oui,
pourquoi?
2) comment puis-je écrire: liste_fichier=$(find / -name *test* -mtime +7)
sans être embêté par les noms de fichiers comprenant des espaces? le print0
est pas mal mais sans xargs derrière j'ai l'impression que c'est inutile...
Merci, à bientôt!
Comme celà a été dit, il vaut mieux mettre -print0 à la fin des arguments
passés à find. A part ça :
* tu as parfaitement raison, on ne devrait jamais utiliser xargs sans -0
* find a un xargs builtin. Je m'explique :
$ find /foo -type f -bla -bla -exec ma commande {} \;
va exécuter ma commande pour chaque fichier trouvé. A noter qu'il n'y a pas
de souci à se faire avec les noms de fichiers exotiques.
$ find /foo -type f -bla -bla -exec ma commande {} +
va lancer ma commande en lui passant un maximum de chemins en paramètre
(comme xargs), toujours de manière sûre (quoiqu'on puisse préférer -execdir).
En bonus, cette possibilité (le -exec ... +) est censé être standard.
S'il te plaît, ne cherches pas à mettre la sortie de find dans un tableau,
si à jouer avec l'IFS et faire des trucs genre :
$ for fichier in $liste_fichiers; do echo $fichier; done
Par contre, si tu n'as pas besoin d'un traitement récursif, ton shell suffit,
pas besoin de find, juste de bash :
for fichier in ./*.[jJ][pP][gG]; do
[[ -f $fichier ]] || continue
if [[ $fichier = *.jpg ]]; then
echo OK, fichier .jpg : $fichier
else
echo mv $fichier ${fichier%.???}.jpg
fi
done
My two cents
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Re: Squeeze : plus de wifi après mise à jour
Le Sat, 22 Jan 2011 12:44:52 +0100, pascatgm a écrit : [...] Merci à tous pour vos réponses... En ce qui concerne l'activation ou non de la carte j'y ai pensé et j'avais installé rfkill qui permet de savoir si la carte est en service matériellement ou pas ... Je m'étais fait avoir une fois... les commandes iwconfig montre que la carte est associée, iwlist liste bien le point d'accès et ses différents canaux (et ceux des voisins). Et je viens de remarquer qu'un certain nombre de paquets sont envoyés mais qu'aucun n'est reçu en retour. Pourtant l'adresse mac de la carte est bien listée dans les périph associés de la Live Box. En ce qui concerne NM je crois que je vais suivre vos conseils : le virer et installer wicd.Je fais ça et je vous tiens au courant. Avec tous mes remerciements encore une fois. P. Humm... je ne crois pas que NM soit en cause. En effet, dès lors que tu utilises le fichier /etc/network/interfaces pour configurer ton interface wlan, NM n'intervient plus. Que dit dmesg concernant la détection et la configuration de cette carte au démarrage? Es tu sûr que le microcode est bien chargé? -- Px -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110122135629.760cc1f3@lucifer
Re: Certification d'un horodatage
Le 22/01/2011 04:19, Alain Vaugham a écrit : aucune garantie que ça arrive, Sûr de ça? ça doit pourtant arriver... Peut-être pas en entier, peut-être pas dans le même état qu'au départ, ni peut-être pas à la bonne destination, mais si on écoute l'engueulade entre deux modems qui cherchent à s'accorder sur le groupe dont il font partie, la définition des pages, la vitesse de transfert, les frames déjà transmises, etc... c'est bien qu'ils sont connectés. D'autant plus que si un troisième larron veut intervenir il sera gentiment prié d'attendre avec une tonalité d'occupation que l'engueulade en cours soit terminée par la réception d'un Disconnect. Il y a autre chose que je ne vois pas? Tu parles de fax traditionnel. De nos jours on utilise _aussi_ la FOIP dans quel cas le discours peut changer. Les échanges avec des machines fax traditionnelles ne c'est (ce?) pas toujours bien passé. Je ne parle même pas de la norme T38 (cela dit j'ai connu des tout en un en fax traditionnel qui avaient également des comportements bizarres). Enfin, avec le fax to mail, on introduit une nouvelle source de problème, le service courriel; le fax peut très bien avoir été réceptionné alors que le destinataire n'a jamais eu le courriel avec le document attaché. Tu utilises Hylafax, tu sais donc comme l'a relevé Yves, qu'il est très facile de cacher/modifier/usurper le numéro de l'expéditeur. Ensuite, si comme chez moi, le numéro de fax et le numéro de téléphone ne font qu'un, je peux très bien affirmer qu'aucun fax n'a été reçu, à fortiori que aucun fax ne peut être reçu puisque je n'ai pas de machine fax (tout est logiciel). Pour la petite histoire j'ai un client qui possède une machine fax d'un gros constructeur et qui se retrouve avec des factures de communications ahurissantes: on c'est rendu compte que la machine fax générait toute seule des communications! Peut on faire confiance aux télécopies envoyées? [...] -- Daniel -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3ade84.1020...@tootai.net
Re: Commande find
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 02:12:04PM +0100, Jeremie COURREGES-ANGLAS wrote:
On Friday 21 January 2011 à 08:16:15AM, Fabien LUCE wrote:
Bonjour à tous!
2 petites questions à propos de la commande find.
1) pourquoi find / -name *test* -mtime +7 -print0 ne se comporte pas
comme find / -print0 -name *test* -mtime +7 ? En d'autres termes: le
paramètre d'action print0 doit il toujours etre à la fin de la commande? Si
oui, pourquoi?
2) comment puis-je écrire: liste_fichier=$(find / -name *test* -mtime +7)
sans être embêté par les noms de fichiers comprenant des espaces? le print0
est pas mal mais sans xargs derrière j'ai l'impression que c'est inutile...
Merci, à bientôt!
Comme celà a été dit, il vaut mieux mettre -print0 à la fin des arguments
passés à find. A part ça :
* tu as parfaitement raison, on ne devrait jamais utiliser xargs sans -0
j'ai du le dire entre les lignes sans faire exprès car ce n'est pas ce que je
pensais exprimer ;)
* find a un xargs builtin. Je m'explique :
$ find /foo -type f -bla -bla -exec ma commande {} \;
va exécuter ma commande pour chaque fichier trouvé. A noter qu'il n'y a pas
de souci à se faire avec les noms de fichiers exotiques.
$ find /foo -type f -bla -bla -exec ma commande {} +
cela va executer la commande pour l'ensemble des fichiers si je comprend bien?
va lancer ma commande en lui passant un maximum de chemins en paramètre
(comme xargs), toujours de manière sûre (quoiqu'on puisse préférer -execdir).
En bonus, cette possibilité (le -exec ... +) est censé être standard.
S'il te plaît, ne cherches pas à mettre la sortie de find dans un tableau,
si à jouer avec l'IFS et faire des trucs genre :
$ for fichier in $liste_fichiers; do echo $fichier; done
Par contre, si tu n'as pas besoin d'un traitement récursif, ton shell suffit,
pas besoin de find, juste de bash :
for fichier in ./*.[jJ][pP][gG]; do
[[ -f $fichier ]] || continue
if [[ $fichier = *.jpg ]]; then
echo OK, fichier .jpg : $fichier
else
echo mv $fichier ${fichier%.???}.jpg
fi
done
My two cents
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Re: clé wifi TPLINK TL-WN722N
bonjour, comme préciser ma clé utilise le module ath9k_htc que j'arrive a trouver null part apart dans compa wireless mais il me met le bazard avec mes autres cartes j'ai trouver un module qui s'installe en gui mais quand je l'install il me demande password lorsque je lui met mon passwordil me dis qu'il n'est pas bon alors que mon mot de passe root est bien le bon lol je comprends plus rien ^^ Jérémy Le 22/01/2011 11:17, cor...@free.fr a écrit : Chez moi, une clé wifi TPLINK TL-WN321G, module = RT73, si ça peut t'aider ... -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3af14e.20...@prego-network.net
Re: Certification d'un horodatage
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 04:19:06AM +0100, Alain Vaugham wrote: aucune garantie que ça arrive, Sûr de ça? ça doit pourtant arriver... Peut-être pas en entier, peut-être pas dans le même état qu'au départ, ni peut-être pas à la bonne destination, mais si on écoute l'engueulade entre deux modems qui cherchent à s'accorder sur le groupe dont il font partie, la définition des pages, la vitesse de transfert, les frames déjà transmises, etc... c'est bien qu'ils sont connectés. D'autant plus que si un troisième larron veut intervenir il sera gentiment prié d'attendre avec une tonalité d'occupation que l'engueulade en cours soit terminée par la réception d'un Disconnect. Il y a autre chose que je ne vois pas? Plus d'encre dans le fax à l'arrivée (j'ai reçu une feuille blanche), sans parler d'un malicieux qui intercepte le message, et le reçoit au lieu du destinataire final (le malicieux peut être situé chez le transporteur télécom, ou près de l'arrivée en ayant bidouillé un cable, ou...? je suis pas spécialiste de la chose :-) ). Tu as bien parlé à un modem, mais pas au bon. Par contre, la notion d'horodatage non forgé/trafiqué reste un élément important même si il n'atteint pas la précision atomique. On est dans une zone de mesure à échelle humaine. Oui oui, je comprend que ton timestamp peut être à l'ordre de la minute, c'est pas le problème. Incidement, je ne me souviens plus du détail du fonctionnement des fax, mais je suis pratiquement certain qu'on peut également trafiquer l'heure des machines fax et que le problème est exactement le même. C'est pareil dans un bureau de poste de la vie réelle. Je n'ai pas encore vu un préposé demander à vérifier l'identité de la personne qui dépose une LR avec AR. À chaque besoin son niveau de sécurité: au dessus de le la LRAR tu passes à l'huissier. Moi je pense que ces utilisateurs-là sont actuellement plus confiants dans la transmission d'une télécopie que dans celle d'un email. Le jour où la situation de l'email évoluera, ils appuieront sur l'autre bouton de leur ERP. Je pense que le noeud du problème dans nos discussions, c'est que tu cherches une solution technique qui convainque des utilisateurs qui n'y comprennent pas grand chose et ne sont probablement près à investir ni temps ni argent. Une solution technique correcte va nécessairement tourner autour de signatures crypto et/ou de tiers de confiance: les solutions que Jean-Yves, Stéphane et moi avons suggérées. Y. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110122165019.ga5...@naryves.com
HS: mdadm et grub2
Bonjour, je viens d'installer un serveur Dell T110 ayant 2 disques SATA et incorporant le controleur suivant (lspci) RAID bus controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset SATA RAID Controller (rev 05) Le BIOS du serveur donne PERC S100 comme controleur RAID. J'ai invalidé le Raid dans le BIOS pour ne faire que du RAID1 logiciel avec mdadm. Tout se déroule correctement jusqu'au test du raid après installation: le serveur ne démarre pas si je débranche sda alors qu'il démarre si je débranche sdb! J'ai fait un grub-install sur /dev/sda /dev/sdb et /dev/md0 (partition Raid1 pour /boot, /dev/md1 étant mon swap et /dev/md2 mon /) Lorsque je démarre en ayant débrancher sda, je vois Welcome to GRUB puis le serveur redémarre. J'ai tenté de mettre set root=(hd1) en lieu et place de (md0) dans grub.cfg, rien n'y fait. Dans le BIOS, j'ai activer le boot à partir du second disque, le serveur démarre bien si sda est présent. Tout se passe donc comme si GRUB démarre sur sdb mais a besoin de sda pour le reste :-( J'ai demander au BIOS de se comporter comme si les disques étaient en ATA, pas plus de résultat. Bref, j'en vient à penser que le contrôleur est en cause et interfère. Merci pour toute suggestion ou histoire vécue et résolue ;-) qui me permettrai de sortir de cette impasse. -- Daniel -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3b102a.10...@tootai.net
Re: Squeeze : plus de wifi après mise à jour
Papinux a écrit : Le Sat, 22 Jan 2011 12:44:52 +0100, pascatgm a écrit : [...] Merci à tous pour vos réponses... En ce qui concerne l'activation ou non de la carte j'y ai pensé et j'avais installé rfkill qui permet de savoir si la carte est en service matériellement ou pas ... Je m'étais fait avoir une fois... les commandes iwconfig montre que la carte est associée, iwlist liste bien le point d'accès et ses différents canaux (et ceux des voisins). Et je viens de remarquer qu'un certain nombre de paquets sont envoyés mais qu'aucun n'est reçu en retour. Pourtant l'adresse mac de la carte est bien listée dans les périph associés de la Live Box. En ce qui concerne NM je crois que je vais suivre vos conseils : le virer et installer wicd.Je fais ça et je vous tiens au courant. Avec tous mes remerciements encore une fois. P. Humm... je ne crois pas que NM soit en cause. En effet, dès lors que tu utilises le fichier /etc/network/interfaces pour configurer ton interface wlan, NM n'intervient plus. Que dit dmesg concernant la détection et la configuration de cette carte au démarrage? Es tu sûr que le microcode est bien chargé? Je joins la sortie de dmesg relative à la carte réseau wifi : [ 11.912187] iwl3945 :10:00.0: firmware: requesting iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode [ 11.969994] iwl3945 :10:00.0: loaded firmware version 15.32.2.9 [ 12.041035] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::radio [ 12.041053] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::assoc [ 12.041105] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::RX [ 12.041121] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::TX [ 12.053646] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready [ 15.628061] iwl3945 :10:00.0: Failed to get channel info for channel 140 [0] [ 15.629756] wlan0: direct probe to AP (try 1) [ 15.632115] wlan0: direct probe responded [ 15.632118] wlan0: authenticate with AP (try 1) [ 15.634218] wlan0: authenticated [ 15.634254] wlan0: associate with AP (try 1) [ 15.636728] wlan0: RX AssocResp from (capab=0x411 status=0 aid=1) [ 15.636731] wlan0: associated [ 15.638342] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan0: link becomes ready et une ligne un peu plus bas qui se plaint de l'absence de routeur IPV6. C'est tout. Il me semble pas y avoir de problème à ce niveau... P. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3b30c6.5010...@gmail.com
Re: Squeeze : plus de wifi après mise à jour
Le 22/01/11, pascatgmpasca...@gmail.com a écrit : Je joins la sortie de dmesg relative à la carte réseau wifi : [ 11.912187] iwl3945 :10:00.0: firmware: requesting iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode [ 11.969994] iwl3945 :10:00.0: loaded firmware version 15.32.2.9 [ 12.041035] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::radio [ 12.041053] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::assoc [ 12.041105] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::RX [ 12.041121] Registered led device: iwl-phy0::TX [ 12.053646] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready [ 15.628061] iwl3945 :10:00.0: Failed to get channel info for channel 140 [0] [ 15.629756] wlan0: direct probe to AP (try 1) [ 15.632115] wlan0: direct probe responded [ 15.632118] wlan0: authenticate with AP (try 1) [ 15.634218] wlan0: authenticated [ 15.634254] wlan0: associate with AP (try 1) [ 15.636728] wlan0: RX AssocResp from (capab=0x411 status=0 aid=1) [ 15.636731] wlan0: associated [ 15.638342] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan0: link becomes ready et une ligne un peu plus bas qui se plaint de l'absence de routeur IPV6. C'est tout. Il me semble pas y avoir de problème à ce niveau... Oui chez moi ça dit pareil. Tentes pour voir de retirer temporairement ta protection wep et associe ta carte, ça enlèvera un paramètre gênant en moins pour voir si ta carte marche réellement et si tu n'as pas un pb dans ta config. Enfin ça n'est qu'une proposition comme une autre, peut-être quelqu'un a-t-il une astuce plus catholique pour tester. Raphaël -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktik6gtozafhmvv5dd4gxlr4pedvzomyvy5ohk...@mail.gmail.com
Re: HS: mdadm et grub2
Le Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:13:14 +0100, daniel huhardeaux no-s...@tootai.net a écrit : Bonjour, je viens d'installer un serveur Dell T110 ayant 2 disques SATA et incorporant le controleur suivant (lspci) RAID bus controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset SATA RAID Controller (rev 05) Le BIOS du serveur donne PERC S100 comme controleur RAID. J'ai invalidé le Raid dans le BIOS pour ne faire que du RAID1 logiciel avec mdadm. Tout se déroule correctement jusqu'au test du raid après installation: le serveur ne démarre pas si je débranche sda alors qu'il démarre si je débranche sdb! J'ai fait un grub-install sur /dev/sda /dev/sdb et /dev/md0 (partition Raid1 pour /boot, /dev/md1 étant mon swap et /dev/md2 mon /) Lorsque je démarre en ayant débrancher sda, je vois Welcome to GRUB puis le serveur redémarre. J'ai tenté de mettre set root=(hd1) en lieu et place de (md0) dans grub.cfg, rien n'y fait. Dans le BIOS, j'ai activer le boot à partir du second disque, le serveur démarre bien si sda est présent. Tout se passe donc comme si GRUB démarre sur sdb mais a besoin de sda pour le reste :-( J'ai demander au BIOS de se comporter comme si les disques étaient en ATA, pas plus de résultat. Bref, j'en vient à penser que le contrôleur est en cause et interfère. Merci pour toute suggestion ou histoire vécue et résolue ;-) qui me permettrai de sortir de cette impasse. Bonjour, j'ai consulté un ensemble de site traitant du sujet et la réponse n'est vraiment pas encouragente Néanmoins, pourquoi ne pas tenter une install Debian-KfreeBSD ... slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110122210826.3df233eb.bernard.schoenacker_free.fr@hamtaro
Re: Squeeze : plus de wifi après mise à jour
Raphaël POITEVIN a écrit : Oui chez moi ça dit pareil. Tentes pour voir de retirer temporairement ta protection wep et associe ta carte, ça enlèvera un paramètre gênant en moins pour voir si ta carte marche réellement et si tu n'as pas un pb dans ta config. Enfin ça n'est qu'une proposition comme une autre, peut-être quelqu'un a-t-il une astuce plus catholique pour tester. Raphaël Mais toute proposition est la bienvenue :) Je vais tester ça. P. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3b3f35.3060...@gmail.com
Re: Commande find
Hola,
je viens d'essayer un petit:
tar cjvf test.tar.bz2 $(find . -mindepth 1 -name * -exec echo {} +)
avec des noms de fichiers contenant des espaces... et bien gros plantage!
tar: ./fichier : la fonction stat a échoué: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce
type
tar: test_3 : la fonction stat a échoué: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type
le fichier a pour nom fichier test3
Voila, je ne sais pas trop pourquoi ca ne fonctionne pas!
a+
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 02:12:04PM +0100, Jeremie COURREGES-ANGLAS wrote:
On Friday 21 January 2011 à 08:16:15AM, Fabien LUCE wrote:
Bonjour à tous!
2 petites questions à propos de la commande find.
1) pourquoi find / -name *test* -mtime +7 -print0 ne se comporte pas
comme find / -print0 -name *test* -mtime +7 ? En d'autres termes: le
paramètre d'action print0 doit il toujours etre à la fin de la commande? Si
oui, pourquoi?
2) comment puis-je écrire: liste_fichier=$(find / -name *test* -mtime +7)
sans être embêté par les noms de fichiers comprenant des espaces? le print0
est pas mal mais sans xargs derrière j'ai l'impression que c'est inutile...
Merci, à bientôt!
Comme celà a été dit, il vaut mieux mettre -print0 à la fin des arguments
passés à find. A part ça :
* tu as parfaitement raison, on ne devrait jamais utiliser xargs sans -0
* find a un xargs builtin. Je m'explique :
$ find /foo -type f -bla -bla -exec ma commande {} \;
va exécuter ma commande pour chaque fichier trouvé. A noter qu'il n'y a pas
de souci à se faire avec les noms de fichiers exotiques.
$ find /foo -type f -bla -bla -exec ma commande {} +
va lancer ma commande en lui passant un maximum de chemins en paramètre
(comme xargs), toujours de manière sûre (quoiqu'on puisse préférer -execdir).
En bonus, cette possibilité (le -exec ... +) est censé être standard.
S'il te plaît, ne cherches pas à mettre la sortie de find dans un tableau,
si à jouer avec l'IFS et faire des trucs genre :
$ for fichier in $liste_fichiers; do echo $fichier; done
Par contre, si tu n'as pas besoin d'un traitement récursif, ton shell suffit,
pas besoin de find, juste de bash :
for fichier in ./*.[jJ][pP][gG]; do
[[ -f $fichier ]] || continue
if [[ $fichier = *.jpg ]]; then
echo OK, fichier .jpg : $fichier
else
echo mv $fichier ${fichier%.???}.jpg
fi
done
My two cents
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Re: Commande find
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:06:27PM +0100, Fabien LUCE wrote:
je viens d'essayer un petit:
tar cjvf test.tar.bz2 $(find . -mindepth 1 -name * -exec echo {} +)
J'ai peut-être raté un épisode, mais pourquoi ne pas faire
un simple:
tar cjvf test.tar.bz2 *
?
Sinon, j'aurais tendance à ajouter des guillements autour
des noms de fichiers qui contiennent des espaces, donc:
tar cjvf test.tar.bz2 $(find . -mindepth 1 -name * -exec echo \{}\ +)
Pas testé, donc sans garantie.
Y.
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Re: Commande find
On Saturday 22 January 2011 à 10:36:57PM, Yves Rutschle wrote:
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:06:27PM +0100, Fabien LUCE wrote:
je viens d'essayer un petit:
tar cjvf test.tar.bz2 $(find . -mindepth 1 -name * -exec echo {} +)
Eeek.
Y'a un gros souci là.
Dans ton utilisation de find, tu ne résouds en rien le problème des noms de
fichiers problématiques, pour une bonne raison : tu laisses le shell
splitter la sortie de find, par la simple utilisation de $(...).
Tu pourrais, en étant vraiment vicieux, utiliser find pour ta tâche :
$ find . -mindepth 1 -exec tar cjvf test.tar.bz2 {} +
Mais ce genre d'utilisation est déconseillée, car on crée ainsi des archives
qui s'extraient dans le répertoire courant.
J'ai peut-être raté un épisode, mais pourquoi ne pas faire
un simple:
tar cjvf test.tar.bz2 *
?
Histoire de sauvegarder aussi les fichiers et répertoires cachés ?
Ou pas...
Sinon, j'aurais tendance à ajouter des guillements autour
des noms de fichiers qui contiennent des espaces, donc:
tar cjvf test.tar.bz2 $(find . -mindepth 1 -name * -exec echo \{}\ +)
Inutile, le problème intervient lorsque le shell interprète la sortie de la
substitution $(...).
De manière générale, utiliser $(...) sans guillemets doubles autour est une
erreur.
Pas besoin de mettre des guillemets autour de {} : le shell n'interprète
pas les noms de fichier car {} est une sémantique interne à find(1).
find(1) passe directement par un appel à execvp(2) pour lancer la commande,
donc les noms de fichiers représentés par {} ne sont pas interprétés.
Pas testé, donc sans garantie.
Y.
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Re: HS: mdadm et grub2
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:13:14 +0100, daniel huhardeaux no-s...@tootai.net wrote: je viens d'installer un serveur Dell T110 ayant 2 disques SATA et incorporant le controleur suivant (lspci) RAID bus controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset SATA RAID Controller (rev 05) Le BIOS du serveur donne PERC S100 comme controleur RAID. Tu n'y peux rien: d'abord ce n'est même pas un vrai ctrlr RAID (c'est le drv qui fait le RAID, pas le hard), ensuite personne n'a réussi à le faire fonctionner correctement en software RAID. intel sait faire les chipsets (pour les CPUs, il a pour bonne partie acquit le savoir), mais c'est tout. -- X-rated movies are all alike ... the only thing they leave to the imagination is the plot. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110123051425.654f3e12@anubis.defcon1
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Re: Urgente ayuda por favor
El 22/01/11 01:42, Roberto José Blandino Cisneros escribió: Si tenias conectividad en linux y no en windows, entran las siguientes posibilidades: 1) Habia un equipo extra haciendo dhcp Algún vivo de tu red instaló Win7 Enterprise, y configuró el equipo en la red como master, y le ganó la elección como servidor a tu equipo en SMB según la prioridad puesta en preferred master; pero como ese equipo no está saliendo para ningún lado, no tienen conectividad. Te recomendaría, si puedes, apagar la red y empezar a levantar uno por uno los equipos con Win. La autenticación de SAMBA tiene un orden estricto con los servidores, es decir, los que se especifican en la línea password server del smb.conf. Windows por su parte, se autentica con el primeo que encuentra. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3ae8f4.8040...@gmail.com
Re: Urgente ayuda por favor
Yo que tu realizaria lo mas pronto posible un inventario de todos los equipos, prestando especial atencion a registrar en detalle todas sus configuraciones de red y servicios publicados. De esta manera podras tener un mapa real de tu red, y podras detectar que paso, prevenir que se repita y muy posiblemente prevenir otros problemas que esten a punto de presentarse. Me uno tambien a la idea de que realices una capacitacion especializada, y mientras la terminas contrates un consultor con experiencia que te apoye en esos momentos de crisis. Saludos
Re: ATI howto del wiki de Debian
El Fri, 21 Jan 2011 20:02:05 +0100, Agustin MuNoz escribió: (...) agustin@HAL-96:~$ glxinfo | grep direct IRQ's not enabled, falling back to busy waits: 2 0 direct rendering: Yes (...) Que es eso de que las IRQ están desactivadas ? me he dejado algo al recompilar el kernel ? No me queda claro qué driver estás usando ¿es el radeon, radeonhd o el propietario? ¿Qué versión del kernel tienes? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.22.17.31...@gmail.com
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Movimientos en pantalla lento
Estimados/as: Quiero comentarles un comportamiento que estoy observando en Testing. Los movimientos de las ventanas arrastradas con el mouse son muy lentas, o sea, parece como una película cuadro a cuadro. Lo noté con KDE y con LXDE con lo cual descarto que sea por el peso del escritorio. Carezco de conocimientos como para hipotetizar pero quizás tenga que ver con el driver de video que está trayendo por defecto Testing ¿qué les parece? ¿podrá ser? En otras distribuciones basadas en Debian Testing que tengo operando en la misma PC no tengo ese problema. El equipo es una Pentium IV, 1Gb de RAM, 2,66 Mhz sonido y video on board. Quizás se está quedando un poco atrás el equipo aunque con otras distros en live que estoy probando no pasa lo mismo, por ejemplo, con Fedora 14 KDE, incluso con Kubuntu 10.10 que es una piedra para mí gusto, no pasa lo mismo, el movimiento en pantalla de las ventanas es más plástico y fluído pero con Squeeze la cosa se pesada y no deja de ser un comportamiento un tanto molesto. Cualquier comentario será bienvenido. Desde ya muchas gracias. -- Sergio Bessopeanetto Buenos Aires. Argentina skype: sergio.bess jabber: sergio.b...@jabber.org msn: sergieb...@yahoo.com http://www.facebook.com/sergio.bess twitter: @sergiobess Linux counter: 486274 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3b5c12.5080...@yahoo.com
Re: ATI howto del wiki de Debian
El día 22 de enero de 2011 18:31, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: No me queda claro qué driver estás usando ¿es el radeon, radeonhd o el propietario? ¿Qué versión del kernel tienes? el radeon a secas agustin@HAL-96:~$ uname -a Linux HAL-96 2.6.32-core2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jan 20 01:26:56 CET 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux el kernel es 2.6.32-5 recompilado por mi añadiendo lo siguiente: en Drivers / Graphics Support / Direct Rendering Manager --- # ATI Radeon y ya que estaba en ello puse también soporte para core duo: Processor type and features --- Processor family (Generic-x86-64) --- Core 2/newer Xeon y en Preemption Model (Voluntary Kernel Preemption (Desktop)) --- Preemptible Kernel (Low-Latency Desktop) Timer frequency (250 HZ) lo cambie a 300 La aceleración 3D parece funcionar correctamente pero ese mensaje mosquea, supongo que podría ir mejor. un saludo -- g...@bigfoot.com http://es.tldp.org/FAQ/FAQ-Internet/ (sin actualizar desde 1998) ... Solo es posible el progreso si se infringen reglas inteligentemente -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTikpfMaZ4tj28ZhLPHRZ1Z5aa0bqd+E79=ppo...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Movimientos en pantalla lento
El día 22 de enero de 2011 19:37, Sergio Bess serpeane...@yahoo.com escribió: Estimados/as: Quiero comentarles un comportamiento que estoy observando en Testing. Los movimientos de las ventanas arrastradas con el mouse son muy lentas, o sea, parece como una película cuadro a cuadro. Lo noté con KDE y con LXDE con lo cual descarto que sea por el peso del escritorio. Carezco de conocimientos como para hipotetizar pero quizás tenga que ver con el driver de video que está trayendo por defecto Testing ¿qué les parece? ¿podrá ser? En otras distribuciones basadas en Debian Testing que tengo operando en la misma PC no tengo ese problema. El equipo es una Pentium IV, 1Gb de RAM, 2,66 Mhz sonido y video on board. Quizás se está quedando un poco atrás el equipo aunque con otras distros en live que estoy probando no pasa lo mismo, por ejemplo, con Fedora 14 KDE, incluso con Kubuntu 10.10 que es una piedra para mí gusto, no pasa lo mismo, el movimiento en pantalla de las ventanas es más plástico y fluído pero con Squeeze la cosa se pesada y no deja de ser un comportamiento un tanto molesto. Me pasó en netbook y lo solucione así: marca o desmarca la siguiente opción: Aplicaciones Herramientas de sistema Editor de Configuración /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager No recuerdo si debes reiniciar las X. Prueba y nos cuentas. -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista como hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktins4uhl7nqa3qv1jjysvh0jj83ryrchomj-z...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Movimientos en pantalla lento
El día 23 de enero de 2011 01:26, Felix Perez felix.listadeb...@gmail.com escribió: El día 22 de enero de 2011 19:37, Sergio Bess serpeane...@yahoo.com escribió: Estimados/as: Quiero comentarles un comportamiento que estoy observando en Testing. Los movimientos de las ventanas arrastradas con el mouse son muy lentas, o sea, parece como una película cuadro a cuadro. Lo noté con KDE y con LXDE con lo cual descarto que sea por el peso del escritorio. Carezco de conocimientos como para hipotetizar pero quizás tenga que ver con el driver de video que está trayendo por defecto Testing ¿qué les parece? ¿podrá ser? En otras distribuciones basadas en Debian Testing que tengo operando en la misma PC no tengo ese problema. El equipo es una Pentium IV, 1Gb de RAM, 2,66 Mhz sonido y video on board. Quizás se está quedando un poco atrás el equipo aunque con otras distros en live que estoy probando no pasa lo mismo, por ejemplo, con Fedora 14 KDE, incluso con Kubuntu 10.10 que es una piedra para mí gusto, no pasa lo mismo, el movimiento en pantalla de las ventanas es más plástico y fluído pero con Squeeze la cosa se pesada y no deja de ser un comportamiento un tanto molesto. Me pasó en netbook y lo solucione así: marca o desmarca la siguiente opción: Aplicaciones Herramientas de sistema Editor de Configuración /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager No recuerdo si debes reiniciar las X. Prueba y nos cuentas. -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista como hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktins4uhl7nqa3qv1jjysvh0jj83ryrchomj-z...@mail.gmail.com Mira a ver qué tarjeta de vídeo tienes, porque dependiendo de la que sea están habiendo ciertos problemas con la aceleración gráfica y las versiones de X.Org. Por ejemplo con las ATI la aceleración mediante XAA es más moderna que con EXA pero sin embargo produce algunas inestabilidades como lo que dices de que los desplazamientos carezcan de fluidez y se pelea con algunos programas como Iceweasel o Icedove dependiendo de la versión. Pero sin embargo dicen que con la versión 7.6 de X.Org esos problemas ya se arreglan. -- elhistorias.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=sw_byq6bb-pi6_dwbcjrnvz+wtcbrn2e2m...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Movimientos en pantalla lento
Felix Perez escribió: El día 22 de enero de 2011 19:37, Sergio Bessserpeane...@yahoo.com escribió: Estimados/as: Quiero comentarles un comportamiento que estoy observando en Testing. Los movimientos de las ventanas arrastradas con el mouse son muy lentas, o sea, parece como una película cuadro a cuadro. Lo noté con KDE y con LXDE con lo cual descarto que sea por el peso del escritorio. Carezco de conocimientos como para hipotetizar pero quizás tenga que ver con el driver de video que está trayendo por defecto Testing ¿qué les parece? ¿podrá ser? En otras distribuciones basadas en Debian Testing que tengo operando en la misma PC no tengo ese problema. El equipo es una Pentium IV, 1Gb de RAM, 2,66 Mhz sonido y video on board. Quizás se está quedando un poco atrás el equipo aunque con otras distros en live que estoy probando no pasa lo mismo, por ejemplo, con Fedora 14 KDE, incluso con Kubuntu 10.10 que es una piedra para mí gusto, no pasa lo mismo, el movimiento en pantalla de las ventanas es más plástico y fluído pero con Squeeze la cosa se pesada y no deja de ser un comportamiento un tanto molesto. Me pasó en netbook y lo solucione así: marca o desmarca la siguiente opción: Aplicaciones Herramientas de sistema Editor de Configuración /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager No recuerdo si debes reiniciar las X. Prueba y nos cuentas. Gracias Félix, pero ¿para cuál escritorio es esto que me decís? porque ahora estoy con LXDE y en Aplicaciones Herramientas del sistema no tengo la opción Editor de Configuración. ¿Se podrá entrar desde pcmanfm como root o por consola? Saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3b59c3.30...@yahoo.com
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NFS och symboliska länkar på servern
Hej! Jag har ett litet problem och undrar hur man löser det på rätt sätt. Min server har två diskar, / och /sdb1. I /exports har jag en symbolisk länk som pekar på ett directory på sdb1. Funkar fint på servern men inte på klienterna. Jag kommer alltså inte åt filerna från NFS-klienterna. Jag har testat att skapa länken både så här: jan@max:/exports$ ln -s /sdb1/hej hej Och så här: jan@max:/exports ln -s ../sdb1/hej hej Målet är att komma åt filer utspridda på olika ställen på servern via en enda NFS-mount vilket skulle förvåna mig mycket om det inte gick. Vad har jag missat? /Janne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110123055337.67047243@maxim
Re: Re: Computador compartilhado por 2 pessoas?
Olá! [...] Mais um detalhe é que o Xephyr2 está antes do Xephyr1 Voce acredita que eu troquei e ele funcionou! Então das duas uma: ou o teclado PS/2 tem que ficar no Xephyr1 ou a ordem no arquivo gdm.conf tem que ser Xephyr1, Xephyr2, , Xephyrn. Mas, um ultimo propbleminha (fora as teclas trocadas): como faco para colocar o atalho de desligar o micro no menu Sistema? Ele sumiu de lá. Abracao -- O__ --- Marcelo Luiz de Laia Rodovia MGT 367, Km 583 c/ /' _ -- Dep. de Engenharia Florestal nº 5000, Alto da Jacuba (*) \ (*) - UFVJM, Diamantina, MG, Brasil Ph: (+55) 38 3532 1248 ~~- (www.ufvjm.edu.br/floresta) FAX: (+55) 38 3532 1200 ^^- Linux user number 487797 CEP: 39.100-000 - Brazil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=gy9ctynmrducetdqprdhfywwhtm_n0agug...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Computador compartilhado por 2 pessoas?
Em 22-01-2011 09:53, Marcelo Laia escreveu: [...] Mais um detalhe é que o Xephyr2 está antes do Xephyr1 Voce acredita que eu troquei e ele funcionou! Então das duas uma: ou o teclado PS/2 tem que ficar no Xephyr1 ou a ordem no arquivo gdm.conf tem que ser Xephyr1, Xephyr2, , Xephyrn. Mas, um ultimo propbleminha (fora as teclas trocadas): como faco para colocar o atalho de desligar o micro no menu Sistema? Ele sumiu de lá. Abracao Olá! Que bom que funcionou, mas tirou também o -mouse evdev a mais? Sem ele e com ordem troca também não funcionou? Quanto à esse menu de desligar, somente sessão com root que aparece, então creio que isso deve ter algo a ver com permissão pelo Gnome estar sobre o Xephyr. Contudo, isso é até bom, pois imagina se um usuário desliga enquanto o outro está usando? Dessa forma, nem fui atrás de ver no código do menu do Gnome o que ele verifica para ocultar ou não este menu. Se quiser dar uma olhadinha e conseguir fazer aparecer o menu de desligar, favor postar, mas ainda assim prefiro sem esse menu para os usuários. []'s Junior Polegato -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3adbe6.6020...@juniorpolegato.com.br
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Debian Lenny üzerine Mono kurmak
Slm arkadaşlar. Windows ortamında C# kullanıyorum ve ve Linux üzerinde Mono kurarak çalışmalarımı test etmek istiyorum . http://pkg-mono.alioth.debian.org/ adresindeki /etc/apt/sources.list should contain: deb http://debian.meebey.net/pkg-mono ./ işlemleri yaptım . apt-get mono komutunu kullandığım zaman mehmetak:/home/mehmet# mehmetak:/home/mehmet# apt-get install mono mono-gmcs mono-gac mono-utils monodevelop monodoc-browser monodevelop-nunit monodevelop-versioncontrol Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Package mono is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package mono has no installation candidate mehmetak:/home/mehmet# hata mesajını alıyorum. Mono paketleri hangi depo adreslerinden kurabilirim ?
RE: Debian Len ny üzerine Mono kurm ak
evet apt-get update komutunu kullandım Subject: Re: Debian Len ny üzerine Mono kurm ak To: ak.meh...@windowslive.com From: leo...@leoman.gen.tr Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 09:23:50 + Merhabalar, Source liste ekleme yaptiktan sonra apt-get update yaptiniz mi? Levent YalcinSent by BlackBerry Internet ServiceFrom: Mehmet AK ak.meh...@windowslive.com Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:32:10 +0200To: Debian Grupdebian-user-turkish@lists.debian.orgSubject: Debian Len ny üzerine Mono kurm ak Slm arkadaşlar. Windows ortamında C# kullanıyorum ve ve Linux üzerinde Mono kurarak çalışmalarımı test etmek istiyorum . http://pkg-mono.alioth.debian.org/ adresindeki /etc/apt/sources.list should contain: deb http://debian.meebey.net/pkg-mono ./ işlemleri yaptım . apt-get mono komutunu kullandığım zaman mehmetak:/home/mehmet# mehmetak:/home/mehmet# apt-get install mono mono-gmcs mono-gac mono-utils monodevelop monodoc-browser monodevelop-nunit monodevelop-versioncontrol Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Package mono is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package mono has no installation candidate mehmetak:/home/mehmet# hata mesajını alıyorum. Mono paketleri hangi depo adreslerinden kurabilirim ?
RE: Debian Len ny üzerine Mono kurm ak
şöyle bir sonuç çıkıyor mehmetak:/home/mehmet# apt-cache search monoamb-plugins - ambisonics LADPSA pluginslibavahi-ui0.0-cil - CLI bindings for Avahi Uilibavahi1.0-cil - CLI bindings for Avahimonodoc-avahi-manual - compiled XML documentation for the CLI bindings of avahimonodoc-banshee-manual - Audio Management and Playback application (developer documentation)bsdgames - a collection of classic textual unix gamescassbeam - A program for Cassegrain antenna modellingicedax - Creates WAV files from audio CDslibmono-cecil0.5-cil - library to generate and inspect CIL assembliescournol - Analyze absolute supply monopolies and polypoliesculmus - Type1 Hebrew Fonts for X11libdb4o6.0-cil - native OODBMS for CLImonodoc-db4o-manual - compiled XML documentation for db4odiffuse - graphical tool for merging and comparing text filesdvi2ps-fontdata-ptexfake - Fake pTeX TFM filesevolution - groupware suite with mail client and organizergfax - GNOME frontend for fax programsgimp-texturize - generates large textures from a small samplemonodoc-gnome-keyring-manual - CLI library to access the GNOME Keyring daemon - manualgnusound - multitrack sound editor for GNOMEmonodoc-gtk2.0-manual - compiled XML documentation for GTK# 2.10gtkatlantic - Game like Monopolymonodoc-gtksourceview2.0-manual - compiled XML documentation for GtkSourceView#2ikvm - Java virtual machine/compiler implemented in .NET (Mono)libikvm-native - Native library for IKVM Java virtual machine for .NET (Mono)monodoc-ipod-manual - compiled XML documentation for ipod-sharpironpython - A Python implementation targeting the .NET and Mono platformskde-icons-mono - a monochromatic icons theme for KDEatlantikdesigner - game board designer for Atlantikatlantik - KDE client for Monopoly-like network gameskolourpaint - a simple paint program for KDElhs2tex - Generates LaTeX code from literate Haskell sourceslibclass-dbi-fromcgi-perl - Update Class::DBI data using CGI::Untaintlibcolor-tools-ruby-doc - Ruby library to provide RGB, CMY K and other colorspace supportlibcolor-tools-ruby1.8 - Ruby library to provide RGB, CMYK and other colorspace supportlibcolor-tools-ruby - Ruby library to provide RGB, CMYK and other colorspace supportlibflickrnet2.1.5-cil - Flickr.Net API Librarylibgdiplus - interface library for Mono class System.Drawinglibggi-target-monotext - General Graphics Interface plain text targetlibggi-target-terminfo - General Graphics Interface TermInfo display targetlibjcalendar-java - Java date chooser bean for graphically picking a datelibxpm-dev - X11 pixmap library (development headers)libxpm4-dbg - X11 pixmap library (debug package)libxpm4 - X11 pixmap librarylibapache2-mod-mono - Apache module for running ASP.NET applications on Monolibmono-addins-gui0.2-cil - GTK# frontend library for Mono.Addinslibmono-addins0.2-cil - addin framework for extensible CLI applications/librariesmono-debugger - Debugger for Monognunit2 - frontend for running NUnit 2 test suitesgnunit - frontend for running N Unit 2 test suitesmono-tools-devel - Various development tools for monomono-tools-gui - Various GUI tools for monomonodoc-browser - MonoDoc GTK+ based viewerlibmono-zeroconf1.0-cil - CLI library for multicast DNS service discoverymonodoc-mono-zeroconf-manual - compiled XML documentation for mono-zeroconfmzclient - CLI library for multicast DNS service discovery (commandline tool)libmono-dev - libraries for the Mono JIT - Development fileslibmono-mozilla0.2-cil - Mono Mozilla librarylibmono0-dbg - libraries for the Mono JIT, debugging symbolslibmono0 - libraries for the Mono JITmono-common - common files for Monomono-jay - LALR(1) parser generator oriented to Java/CLImono-jit-dbg - fast CLI JIT/AOT compiler for Mono, debugging symbolsmono-jit - fast CLI JIT/AOT compiler for Monomono-runtime - Mono runtimemono-utils - Mono utilitiesmonodevelop-boo - Boo plugin for MonoDevelopmonodevelop-database - Database plugin for MonoDevelopmonodevelop-java - Java plugin for MonoDevelopmon odevelop-nunit - NUnit plugin for MonoDevelopmonodevelop-versioncontrol - VersionControl plugin for MonoDevelopmonodevelop - C/C++/C#/Boo/Java/Nemerle/ILasm/ASP.NET Development Environmentmonodoc-http - MonoDoc http based viewermonodoc - Mono documentation viewermonopd - Monopoly game network servermonotone-doc - A distributed version (revision) control system - documentationmonotone-server - A distributed version (revision) control system - server scriptsmonotone - A distributed version (revision) control systemlibmpg123-0 - MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio decoder -- runtime librarylibmpg123-dev - MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio decoder -- development filesmpg123-alsa - MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player with ALSA support - dummy packagempg123-esd - MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player with Esound support - dummy packagempg123-nas - MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player with NAS support - dummy packagempg123 - MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio playermonodoc-mysql5.0-manual -
Re: Debian Len ny üzerine Mono kurm ak
http://mono-project.com/DistroPackages/Debian 22 Ocak 2011 11:33 tarihinde Mehmet AK ak.meh...@windowslive.com yazdı: şöyle bir sonuç çıkıyor mehmetak:/home/mehmet# apt-cache search mono amb-plugins - ambisonics LADPSA plugins libavahi-ui0.0-cil - CLI bindings for Avahi Ui libavahi1.0-cil - CLI bindings for Avahi monodoc-avahi-manual - compiled XML documentation for the CLI bindings of avahi monodoc-banshee-manual - Audio Management and Playback application (developer documentation) bsdgames - a collection of classic textual unix games cassbeam - A program for Cassegrain antenna modelling icedax - Creates WAV files from audio CDs libmono-cecil0.5-cil - library to generate and inspect CIL assemblies cournol - Analyze absolute supply monopolies and polypolies culmus - Type1 Hebrew Fonts for X11 libdb4o6.0-cil - native OODBMS for CLI monodoc-db4o-manual - compiled XML documentation for db4o diffuse - graphical to ol for merging and comparing text files dvi2ps-fontdata-ptexfake - Fake pTeX TFM files evolution - groupware suite with mail client and organizer gfax - GNOME frontend for fax programs gimp-texturize - generates large textures from a small sample monodoc-gnome-keyring-manual - CLI library to access the GNOME Keyring daemon - manual gnusound - multitrack sound editor for GNOME monodoc-gtk2.0-manual - compiled XML documentation for GTK# 2.10 gtkatlantic - Game like Monopoly monodoc-gtksourceview2.0-manual - compiled XML documentation for GtkSourceView#2 ikvm - Java virtual machine/compiler implemented in .NET (Mono) libikvm-native - Native library for IKVM Java virtual machine for .NET (Mono) monodoc-ipod-manual - compiled XML documentation for ipod-sharp ironpython - A Python implementation targeting the .NET and Mono platforms kde-icons- mono - a monochromatic icons theme for KDE atlantikdesigner - game board designer for Atlantik atlantik - KDE client for Monopoly-like network games kolourpaint - a simple paint program for KDE lhs2tex - Generates LaTeX code from literate Haskell sources libclass-dbi-fromcgi-perl - Update Class::DBI data using CGI::Untaint libcolor-tools-ruby-doc - Ruby library to provide RGB, CMYK and other colorspace support libcolor-tools-ruby1.8 - Ruby library to provide RGB, CMYK and other colorspace support libcolor-tools-ruby - Ruby library to provide RGB, CMYK and other colorspace support libflickrnet2.1.5-cil - Flickr.Net API Library libgdiplus - interface library for Mono class System.Drawing libggi-target-monotext - General Graphics Interface plain text target libggi-target-terminfo - General Graphics Interface TermInfo display target libjcalendar-java - Java date chooser bean for graphically picking a date libxpm-dev - X11 pixmap library (development headers) libxpm4-dbg - X11 pixmap library (debug package) libxpm4 - X11 pixmap library libapache2-mod-mono - Apache module for running ASP.NET applications on Mono libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil - GTK# frontend library for Mono.Addins libmono-addins0.2-cil - addin framework for extensible CLI applications/libraries mono-debugger - Debugger for Mono gnunit2 - frontend for running NUnit 2 test suites gnunit - frontend for running NUnit 2 test suites mono-tools-devel - Various development tools for mono mono-tools-gui - Various GUI tools for mono monodoc-browser - MonoDoc GTK+ based viewer libmono-zeroconf1.0-cil - CLI library for multicast DNS service discovery monodoc-mono-zeroconf-manual - compiled XML documentation for mono-zeroconf mzclient - CLI library for multicast DNS service discovery (commandline tool) libmono-dev - libraries for the Mono JIT - Development files libmono-mozilla0.2-cil - Mono Mozilla library libmono0-dbg - libraries for the Mono JIT, debugging symbols libmono0 - libraries for the Mono JIT mono-common - common files for Mono mono-jay - LALR(1) parser generator oriented to Java/CLI mono-jit-dbg - fast CLI JIT/AOT compiler for Mono, debugging symbols mono-jit - fast CLI JIT/AOT compiler for Mono mono-runtime - Mono runtime mono-utils - Mono utilities monodevelop-boo - Boo plugin for MonoDevelop monodevelop-database - Database plugin for MonoDevelop monodevelop-java - Java plugin for MonoDevelop monodevelop-nunit - NUnit plugin for MonoDevelop monodevelop-versioncontrol - VersionControl plugin for MonoDevelop monodevelop - C/C ++/C#/Boo/Java/Nemerle/ILasm/ASP.NET Development Environment monodoc-http - MonoDoc http based viewer monodoc - Mono documentation viewer monopd - Monopoly game network server monotone-doc - A distributed version (revision) control system - documentation monotone-server - A distributed version (revision) control system - server scripts monotone - A distributed version (revision) control system libmpg123-0 - MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio decoder -- runtime library libmpg123-dev - MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio decoder -- development files mpg123-alsa - MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player with ALSA support -
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Re: Sound recording in Debian Lenny
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 09:25:37AM +, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 18 January 2011 01:50:31 Joel Roth wrote: Depending on your needs, and if the GUI waveform display isn't so important you may like to experiment with Nama. (Nama does have a simple Tk UI for controlling transport, effects, etc. with more advanced features available at the command prompt.) Nama is Debian packaged. That version behaves reasonably well. You can also easily update to the latest/greatest version from github. http://freeshell.de/~bolangi/cgi1/nama.cgi/00home.html Thanks very much, Joel. I'll take a look. But you illustrate my main problem very well. In this context, what are transport and special effects?? Well, I could possibly guess what special effects are, but transport??? Sorry for the jargon. I guess that's from magnetic tape world where transport means to physically move the magnetic tape medium past a recording/playback head. So that encompasses record/play/stop/rewind. Btw the latter term (which you yourself use below) belongs to the tape reel metaphor. cheers, Joel I simply don't know enough about recording to be able to use and/or understand anything beyond start, stop, fast forward, rewind, record and save. And it would be nice to be able to see whether or not anything is being recorded! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101180925.37451.lisi.re...@gmail.com -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110122080859.GA5969@sprite
SOLVED was Re: ? software, ?[OT] hardware
On Friday 21 January 2011 17:27:04 Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 16:57:53 +, Lisi wrote: I have a weird graphics problem on one of my boxes (the only one with a prayer of running VM, and I need to run some VMs). When I start to boot up all is well. When all but the Squeeze with Trinity reach the point of starting X, the picture disappears and the monitor complains that it is out of range. 2/ You can also try to use the vesa driver and check if at least the out-of-sync error can be bypassed. In lenny, you can select the driver to use by tweaking Driver vesa stanza in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. In Squeeze, disabling KMS should force the loading of the vesa driver (you need to add nomodeset as kernel parameter at booting). The reference to trying vesa was the clue. Rather than try it any more complicated way, I booted Puppy, and where it asked me whether I wanted to go with Xorg or chose vesa, I said vesa. And it booted fine. So then, out of interest, I rebooted and chose Xorg. This time a message came up that the graphics card was fine and had been recognised, but Puppy was getting no feedback from the monitor, and would I chose what I wanted manually from a long list. I chose, and Puppy booted without a problem in full GUI mode. So I then tried to copy the relevant parts of the Puppy xorg.conf into the installation of Lenny that I currently had on the HDD. I just got myself into a mess. So I tried an xorg.conf that I had saved for permanent reference, that worked for another monitor, that I knew to be very similar. All is now well. Presenting problem solved. Though the question remains: what went wrong, where, that suddenly the monitor was not recognised. Thanks! Lisi
Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Jack Schneider p...@dp-indexing.com wrote: I think I found a significant glitch.. I appears that mdadm is confused. I think it happened when I created the /dev/md2 array from the new disks. It looks like the metadata 1.2 vs 0.90 configs is the culprit... Here's the output of: mdadm --detail --scan: ARRAY /dev/md0 metadata=0.90 UUID=e45b34d8:50614884:1f1d6a6a:d9c6914c ARRAY /dev/md1 metadata=0.90 UUID=c06c0ea6:5780b170:ea2fd86a:09558bd1 Here's the output of /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf: DEVICE partitions CREATE owner=root group=disk mode=0660 auto=yes HOMEHOST system MAILADDR root ARRAY /dev/md/0 metadata=1.2 UUID=f6de5584:d9dbce39:090f16ff:f795e54c name=hetzner:0 ARRAY /dev/md/1 metadata=1.2 UUID=0e065fee:15dea43e:f4ed7183:70d519bd name=hetzner:1 ARRAY /dev/md/2 metadata=1.2 UUID=ce4dd5a8:d8c2fdf4:4612713e:06047473 name=hetzner:2 Given that the metadata from 0.90 1.2 cannot be on each md0 and md1 at the same time. Although they are on different places on the disks IIRC. Something needs to change... I am thinking of an mdadm.conf edit. But there maybe an alternative tool or approach... This was obtained using my Debian-live amd64 rescue disk. Check your partitions' metadata with mdadm --examine --scan --config=partitions. Those'll be the settings that you'll need in mdadm.conf. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktim-epo7gmqgjmb_8x54+hqg90fs8ewmuphyo...@mail.gmail.com
Let's talk about compression rates
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=MwDnhknf $ ls -Sl total 461252 -rw-rw-r--. 1 g g 111709730 Jan 22 11:06 linux-2.6.37.zip -rw-rw-r--. 1 g g 93174605 Jan 22 11:03 linux-2.6.37.tar.gz -rw-rw-r--. 1 g g 73552510 Jan 22 11:10 linux-2.6.37.tar.bz2 -rw-rw-r--. 1 g g 66333786 Jan 22 11:16 linux-2.6.37.7z -rw-rw-r--. 1 g g 64035788 Jan 22 11:16 linux-2.6.37.tar.7z -rw-rw-r--. 1 g g 63480808 Jan 22 11:20 linux-2.6.37.tar.xz $ I presume kernel.org knows this. Why doesn't people use e.g.: XZ? This is the same as in PDF's. DJVU files could be amazing too. They could compress [convert] a 400 MByte PDF to a 20 MByte DJVU. Amazing. Why don't these technologies spread?? Any opinions regarding it? Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/607661.44460...@web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
Re: Let's talk about compression rates
On 22/01/11 18:44, S Mathias wrote: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=MwDnhknf $ ls -Sl total 461252 -rw-rw-r--. 1 g g 111709730 Jan 22 11:06 linux-2.6.37.zip -rw-rw-r--. 1 g g 93174605 Jan 22 11:03 linux-2.6.37.tar.gz -rw-rw-r--. 1 g g 73552510 Jan 22 11:10 linux-2.6.37.tar.bz2 -rw-rw-r--. 1 g g 66333786 Jan 22 11:16 linux-2.6.37.7z -rw-rw-r--. 1 g g 64035788 Jan 22 11:16 linux-2.6.37.tar.7z -rw-rw-r--. 1 g g 63480808 Jan 22 11:20 linux-2.6.37.tar.xz $ I presume kernel.org knows this. Why doesn't people use e.g.: XZ? XZ is very recent compare BZ2 This is the same as in PDF's. DJVU files could be amazing too. They could compress [convert] a 400 MByte PDF to a 20 MByte DJVU. Amazing. Why don't these technologies spread?? Any opinions regarding it? Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3aba46.6090...@rezozer.net
Re: Let's talk about compression rates
On 2011-01-22 11:44 +0100, S Mathias wrote: $ ls -Sl total 461252 -rw-rw-r--. 1 g g 111709730 Jan 22 11:06 linux-2.6.37.zip -rw-rw-r--. 1 g g 93174605 Jan 22 11:03 linux-2.6.37.tar.gz -rw-rw-r--. 1 g g 73552510 Jan 22 11:10 linux-2.6.37.tar.bz2 -rw-rw-r--. 1 g g 66333786 Jan 22 11:16 linux-2.6.37.7z -rw-rw-r--. 1 g g 64035788 Jan 22 11:16 linux-2.6.37.tar.7z -rw-rw-r--. 1 g g 63480808 Jan 22 11:20 linux-2.6.37.tar.xz $ I presume kernel.org knows this. Why doesn't people use e.g.: XZ? It's rather new and not everybody has it yet, while gzip and bzip2 are rather ubiquitous. Besides, a lot of scripts will have to be changed if kernel.org drops .bz2 files and replaces them with .xz files, so this will probably not be done soon. This is the same as in PDF's. DJVU files could be amazing too. They could compress [convert] a 400 MByte PDF to a 20 MByte DJVU. Amazing. Why don't these technologies spread?? They do, albeit slowly. Slackware has already moved to xz compressed tarballs for their distribution, GNU folks are providing them as well, Emacs 23.2 transparently deals with xz compressed files, dpkg 1.15.6 supports xz compressed Debian packages etc. Any opinions regarding it? I hope that Debian FTP masters will accept xz-compressed .debs soon and that they will become standard at some time, so that more packages can fit on the CDs and download time on upgrades decreases. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87aaitumwb@turtle.gmx.de
Re: Cannot turn on bell in xterm
* On 2011 21 Jan 23:06 -0600, T o n g wrote: On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:15:01 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: Do you have the 'pcspkr' module loaded? lsmod | grep pcspkr Ha, no wonder I don't hear my beeps. If not then load it. modprobe pcspkr Hmm, how do I load it by default? Add pcspkr to /etc/modules. Make sure that is not blacklisted in some file under /etc/modprobe.d, first. - Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://n0nb.us/index.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110122124814.gb21...@n0nb.us
Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 04:54:32 -0500 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Jack Schneider p...@dp-indexing.com wrote: I think I found a significant glitch.. I appears that mdadm is confused. I think it happened when I created the /dev/md2 array from the new disks. It looks like the metadata 1.2 vs 0.90 configs is the culprit... Here's the output of: mdadm --detail --scan: ARRAY /dev/md0 metadata=0.90 UUID=e45b34d8:50614884:1f1d6a6a:d9c6914c ARRAY /dev/md1 metadata=0.90 UUID=c06c0ea6:5780b170:ea2fd86a:09558bd1 Here's the output of /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf: DEVICE partitions CREATE owner=root group=disk mode=0660 auto=yes HOMEHOST system MAILADDR root ARRAY /dev/md/0 metadata=1.2 UUID=f6de5584:d9dbce39:090f16ff:f795e54c name=hetzner:0 ARRAY /dev/md/1 metadata=1.2 UUID=0e065fee:15dea43e:f4ed7183:70d519bd name=hetzner:1 ARRAY /dev/md/2 metadata=1.2 UUID=ce4dd5a8:d8c2fdf4:4612713e:06047473 name=hetzner:2 Given that the metadata from 0.90 1.2 cannot be on each md0 and md1 at the same time. Although they are on different places on the disks IIRC. Something needs to change... I am thinking of an mdadm.conf edit. But there maybe an alternative tool or approach... This was obtained using my Debian-live amd64 rescue disk. Check your partitions' metadata with mdadm --examine --scan --config=partitions. Those'll be the settings that you'll need in mdadm.conf. Thanks, Tom A couple of small ?s. I can get the output of the command on the live file system and it appears to make sense. I am running on a debian-live amd64 O/S. The data has 4 arrays and I only have 3, there are two entries for the new empty disks /dev/md/2 and /dev/md127. They don't appear in /proc/mdstat, so they are not running. Do I need to kill them permanently some how? I need, I think, to get the info to the mdadm.conf on the real /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1 partitions. Mount them on the live system and edit mdadm.conf??? When I reboot, I'll need the right info... chroot?? TIA Jack -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110122072452.0a4b5...@torrid.volunteerwireless.net
Re: Let's talk about HTTPS Everywhere
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 16:14:31 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In pan.2011.01.21.12.44...@gmail.com, Camaleón wrote: Using cookies for tracking/ identifying the user's session can be replaced with another methods or can require additional security measures for verifying the authenticity of the client. Do you have a concrete proposal that is simpler than using HTTPS? I wish I had.. sessions carried at server side, hidden fields in forms or variable uri encoding were the common methods used in the past. Cookies are insecure by their own nature and fail to provide a proven mechanism for uniquely identifying users. You can hide (by encrypting the file) the content of the cookie and you'll avoid remote side hijacking when someone is sniffing the connection, but the root of problem still remains: should the hijacker has physical access to the computer I guess he can also impersonate the login session (someone in the know may want to correct this statement). Or just think about removable flash drive devices with portable versions of the browsers; the owner logins into his online account (facebook, gmail, whatever...), check the remember me option and keeps the full session encrypted via https (not just the login part). Another user with access to the flash drive could copy the whole content of the data and re- use (hijack) the cookie that holds the session id. What I was trying to expose here is that http is a protocol designed mostly for single-user sessions in mind and todays online services are powerful enough to require enhanced security measures that current http protocol specs are not always ready to provide. With cookies, we're applying patches/bypasses but not a definite solution to the problem. The same happened with e-mail: e-mail servers are not well-suited for handling 1 GiB of data attachments (neither Gmail provides such option, attachments are limited to 20-30 MiB) because of e-mail's own definition and we have to use alternative methods (ftp, direct links to online storage sites...) for this. Maybe is just we are not using the right tool for the job... Keep in mind that IPs don't identify users -- proxies and reverse proxies mess that up. Keep in mind that it is difficult to serialize requests; users that are fans of multiple tabs and/or windows may have requests that overlap or interleave with other requests. What can be done now? Of course, always use encryption when dealing with sensitive data and if we are using cookies to store this data (like session ID) apply additional steps that require a second verification of the user and not just trust in the session ID. For instance, once the user has been logged in and the cookie has been set, add a mark -kinda counter/timestamp flag- on the server side that enforces the user to relogin when different session is requested/ detected, from another IP/another browser/etc... Yes, this can be annoying if the request is valid but I prefer a bit of annoyance than getting my account stolen. mode fake-guru on I think in a near future, cloud services will require the use of small VPNs between the provider and user to ensure a correct management of the user's data, security and encryption so private and public information will be kept under two complete separate scenarios. /mode fake-guru off Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.22.15.39...@gmail.com
Re: Let's talk about compression rates
wow... http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ihLLHyiT $ time 7z a -mx=9 linux-2.6.37.tar.7z linux-2.6.37.tar; echo; time xz -9 -z linux-2.6.37.tar; echo; ls -lS 7-Zip 9.13 beta Copyright (c) 1999-2010 Igor Pavlov 2010-04-15 p7zip Version 9.13 (locale=en_US.utf8,Utf16=on,HugeFiles=on,2 CPUs) Scanning Creating archive linux-2.6.37.tar.7z Compressing linux-2.6.37.tar Everything is Ok real6m43.608s user10m1.092s sys 0m3.957s real10m40.788s user10m33.363s sys 0m2.106s total 120264 -rw-rw-r--. 1 g g 61570448 Jan 22 15:42 linux-2.6.37.tar.xz -rw-rw-r--. 1 g g 61567410 Jan 22 16:13 linux-2.6.37.tar.7z $ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/980971.87919...@web121404.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
Re: Let's talk about HTTPS Everywhere
In pan.2011.01.22.15.39...@gmail.com, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 16:14:31 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In pan.2011.01.21.12.44...@gmail.com, Camaleón wrote: Using cookies for tracking/ identifying the user's session can be replaced with another methods or can require additional security measures for verifying the authenticity of the client. Do you have a concrete proposal that is simpler than using HTTPS? I wish I had.. sessions carried at server side, hidden fields in forms or variable uri encoding were the common methods used in the past. Cookies are insecure by their own nature and fail to provide a proven mechanism for uniquely identifying users. You can hide (by encrypting the file) the content of the cookie and you'll avoid remote side hijacking when someone is sniffing the connection, but the root of problem still remains: should the hijacker has physical access to the computer I guess he can also impersonate the login session (someone in the know may want to correct this statement). Or just think about removable flash drive devices with portable versions of the browsers; the owner logins into his online account (facebook, gmail, whatever...), check the remember me option and keeps the full session encrypted via https (not just the login part). Another user with access to the flash drive could copy the whole content of the data and re- use (hijack) the cookie that holds the session id. Cookies that allow the user to bypass a security measure are often aggressively timed out and/or cleared server-side, preventing this from happening in practice unless the first user authorizes it. Physical access to the same hardware in a roughly 5 minute window also allows one to impersonate another user on a Kerberos network; that's not generally considered insecure. What I was trying to expose here is that http is a protocol designed mostly for single-user sessions in mind and todays online services are powerful enough to require enhanced security measures that current http protocol specs are not always ready to provide. With cookies, we're applying patches/bypasses but not a definite solution to the problem. Does a session need to last longer than a TCP/IP connection? If so, the sides would have to exchange session identifiers in a way that is quite similar to using cookies. For details look how SSL/TLS allows reusing an existing session on a new TCP/IP connection. There might be a better solution, but it would look very similar to cookie use under a well-considered cookie policy. Maybe is just we are not using the right tool for the job... If a session only needs to last for the length of a TCP/IP connection, then we are almost certainly using the wrong approach, but we'd likely still want HTTP cookies for storing non-sensitive data over long periods of time. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Where are xrandr settings stored?
Hello, Yesterday I faced a chicken-egg problem :-) I have a virtual machine (virtualbox) in a notebook with Squeeze installed and wanted to add an external 17 LCD display (native resolution is 1280x1024). The problem came when I mistyped the command and gave xrandr a wrong value to use (by wrong value I'll just say that viewable screen area was 1280x60... yes, that reads 60 for the screen height). In short, I run: # xrandr --output VBOX0 --mode 1280x60_60.00 (previously I've added the above mode using cvt tool and the required modeline value) After that, xrand obeyed my typed settings (sigh...) and the screen become something like this: 1280 (good) ^ |--| | | 60 (very very very bad) |--| Of course, gnome panel took almost the complete screen and playing inside the X session was impossible (I couldn't see anything). I thought by restarting the X server or even the computer, xrandr settings would be reset but that didn't happen. Also, I started a new session with another user but the resolution was exactly the same. Then I concluded that xrandr settings had to have been recorded in any place outside each user's session profile, but couldn't find the offending file (I deleted ~/.config/monitors.xml, just in case, but needless to say it didn't work). I finally could revert the minimalistic screen resolution by using xterm (typing the commands without seeing them) and providing a new usable mode to xrandr :-) After that, some questions arise: 1/ How can it that xrandr settings are remembered for all the users session? 2/ What is the involved file/tweak command to revert any change and reset its settings? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.22.16.13...@gmail.com
Re: Let's talk about compression rates
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 4:44 AM, S Mathias smathias1...@yahoo.com wrote: ... I presume kernel.org knows this. Why doesn't people use e.g.: XZ? ... FYI, archlinux is already using xz by default on their packaging system, and for kernel lzma, which at least improves compression ratio a bit. -- Javier. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimwhdsooj20cxeznnrwkarxfknm+bhh4y5sr...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Let's talk about HTTPS Everywhere
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:11:39 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In pan.2011.01.22.15.39...@gmail.com, Camaleón wrote: (...) Or just think about removable flash drive devices with portable versions of the browsers; the owner logins into his online account (facebook, gmail, whatever...), check the remember me option and keeps the full session encrypted via https (not just the login part). Another user with access to the flash drive could copy the whole content of the data and re- use (hijack) the cookie that holds the session id. Cookies that allow the user to bypass a security measure are often aggressively timed out and/or cleared server-side, preventing this from happening in practice unless the first user authorizes it. Physical access to the same hardware in a roughly 5 minute window also allows one to impersonate another user on a Kerberos network; that's not generally considered insecure. (...) Not hardware but data. We only need the data to get the encrypted cookie and hijack the login session. That's a bit different than having access to a computer and be able to change the root's password. As per kerberos, I have not read any case of session hijacking, I thought it was a very sctrict (with high requirements) protocol :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.22.16.44...@gmail.com
Re: Where are xrandr settings stored?
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:13:29 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com dijo: 1/ How can it that xrandr settings are remembered for all the users session? 2/ What is the involved file/tweak command to revert any change and reset its settings? I don't know for sure the answers to these questions, but I have some suggestions for places to look: 1) Rename the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and then restart the computer. This will create a new, clean Xorg.0.log file that will be easier to read than the one you renamed, which probably goes on for pages. Look through the new file for clues. After reading it, make some command in xrandr, which will append new information to the file. Read this new information to see exactly what the command makes X do. 2) Look in /etc/X11/ for configuration files, particularly xorg.conf. If there is no xorg.conf file try creating a new one using the minimal commands at x.org: Section Device Identifier n Driver nouveau EndSection 3) Read the wiki at x.org for more fun things to try: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110122085537.39127...@mailhost.pdx.edu
Re: Cannot turn on bell in xterm
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:56:33 -0800, Joe Riel wrote: On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 16:22:03 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: Does it work under another terminal (i.e., aterm, gnome-terminal, konsole...) inside an X session? No. So far, I've only got it work from a virtual terminal (console). Hum... Another test to make ring the bell is searching for nonexistent string in Iceweasel (ctrl+f). Emacs should ring the bell when I do something illegal. That's how I noticed it was silent. So this is a system wide issue, not just xterm. What does amixer show on PC Speaker? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.22.16.56...@gmail.com
Re: Let's talk about HTTPS Everywhere
In pan.2011.01.22.16.44...@gmail.com, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:11:39 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In pan.2011.01.22.15.39...@gmail.com, Camaleón wrote: (...) Or just think about removable flash drive devices with portable versions of the browsers; the owner logins into his online account (facebook, gmail, whatever...), check the remember me option and keeps the full session encrypted via https (not just the login part). Another user with access to the flash drive could copy the whole content of the data and re- use (hijack) the cookie that holds the session id. Cookies that allow the user to bypass a security measure are often aggressively timed out and/or cleared server-side, preventing this from happening in practice unless the first user authorizes it. Physical access to the same hardware in a roughly 5 minute window also allows one to impersonate another user on a Kerberos network; that's not generally considered insecure. (...) Not hardware but data. Please provide a scenario where they have access to the data, but not the hardware. Your example quoted above assumed they have access to the removable flash drive, which is hardware. We only need the data to get the encrypted cookie and hijack the login session. That's a bit different than having access to a computer and be able to change the root's password. As per kerberos, I have not read any case of session hijacking, I thought it was a very sctrict (with high requirements) protocol :-? It is. Still, if you store your tickets (Kerberos term) on a flash drive, I have an approximately 5 minute window to steal the drive and authenticate to those services. (I think client and/or server can use a smaller window, but I'm not entirely sure.) NB: Both Kerberos and most web sites / applications are some way to log out / off which invalidates your cookie / ticket. Use of this feature likely prevents many of the attacks. It is even more dangerous if you store your (Kerberos) TGT there, since it can be used to authenticate against arbitrary services. After 5 minutes, the tickets are no longer valid. Tickets are very much like cookies that record an encrypted session id. They are created as part of successful authentication, but don't contain any sensitive information, and are exchanged in lieu of re-authenticating within the same session. NB: It's been a while since I dealt with Kerberos. Tickets may normally be written to disk encrypted; I know cookies are generally not. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
latest ppp does not connect
Hi all, I am getting problems with the latest version of running ppp from squeeze. As the version before was running well, I get no success in a connectio with the latest version. I am using umtsmon which is calling ppp with some switches, but it is the same, if I use pon, kppp, kde-ppp or similar - the latest ppp- version does not work. Maybe someone can help and read the code/changes between the two versions. Here is the long description with verbose output of each version: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=610025 At the moment I solved it for myself by setting ppp on hold. Needed data: Computer: EEEPC with debian/squeeze (32-bit) Modem: Huawei E620 Provider: O2 Hope this helps. Kind regards Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101221729.32513.hans.ullr...@loop.de
Re: Let's talk about compression rates
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 07:57:21 -0800, S Mathias wrote: $ time 7z a -mx=9 linux-2.6.37.tar.7z linux-2.6.37.tar; echo; time xz -9 -z linux-2.6.37.tar; echo; ls -lS was the linux-2.6.37.tar already in cache memory? If not, and you do xz first, you will see more dramatic results. -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ihf3gc$s8n$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Let's talk about compression rates
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 4:44 AM, S Mathias smathias1...@yahoo.com wrote: I presume kernel.org knows this. Why doesn't people use e.g.: XZ? This is the same as in PDF's. DJVU files could be amazing too. They could compress [convert] a 400 MByte PDF to a 20 MByte DJVU. Amazing. Why don't these technologies spread?? Any opinions regarding it? Thanks. I know that at least in the Windows world, .7z is starting to become almost as common as .rar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTinVq++H7G1WV-DnJ0y+aDvr2e=wpcj-5yasn...@mail.gmail.com
Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw for module r8169
I just upgraded my system and got the warnings Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ... update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64 W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw for module r8169 W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-1.fw for module r8169 I then installed firmware-realtek, which provides the missing files. Do I need to reconfigure initramfs-tools for this to take effect? -- Joe Riel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110122093638.08c02e16@gauss
Re: Cannot turn on bell in xterm
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:56:44 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:56:33 -0800, Joe Riel wrote: On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 16:22:03 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: Does it work under another terminal (i.e., aterm, gnome-terminal, konsole...) inside an X session? No. So far, I've only got it work from a virtual terminal (console). Hum... Another test to make ring the bell is searching for nonexistent string in Iceweasel (ctrl+f). Emacs should ring the bell when I do something illegal. That's how I noticed it was silent. So this is a system wide issue, not just xterm. What does amixer show on PC Speaker? I don't see any entries for PC Speaker: $ amixer | grep control Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0 Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Simple mixer control 'Front',0 Simple mixer control 'Front Mic',0 Simple mixer control 'Front Mic Boost',0 Simple mixer control 'Surround',0 Simple mixer control 'Center',0 Simple mixer control 'LFE',0 Simple mixer control 'Side',0 Simple mixer control 'Line',0 Simple mixer control 'CD',0 Simple mixer control 'Mic',0 Simple mixer control 'Mic Boost',0 Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0 Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Default PCM',0 Simple mixer control 'Capture',0 Simple mixer control 'Capture',1 Simple mixer control 'Digital',0 Simple mixer control 'Independent HP',0 Simple mixer control 'Input Source',0 Simple mixer control 'Input Source',1 Simple mixer control 'Smart 5.1',0 -- Joe Riel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110122093900.52636b49@gauss
Re: Let's talk about HTTPS Everywhere
On 01/22/2011 01:39 PM, Camaleón wrote: I wish I had.. sessions carried at server side, hidden fields in forms or variable uri encoding were the common methods used in the past. I don't think you've fully understood the problem. The problem is not that cookies contain sensitive data (well, some do), but rather that even just a session ID - which can be just a random number with no meaning other than identifying in the server data related to that user, even if has nothing sensitive, can be used to hijack the session if another uses gets hold of that ID, depending on how the server side is implemented. Several sites fall to this attack (as FireSheep shows). I confess I don't have a good solution on how to solve that in the server side. If traffic is unencrypted (http), then it's easy to capture session IDs. SSL prevents that, even if someone can sniff the traffic, all they get is random garbage. (At least in theory, but I don't know of any real attack on SSL.) That's the same reason I was advocating that people should not leave Wi-Fi (even if public) unencrypted. If traffic is unencrypted, it is trivial for anyone to capture session IDs flying in plain text through the air. If the network is encrypted, then it is much harder to capture other people's traffic. (Should be impossible, but there are attacks. But things are much more difficult.) Cookies are insecure by their own nature and fail to provide a proven mechanism for uniquely identifying users. You can hide (by encrypting the file) the content of the cookie and you'll avoid remote side hijacking when someone is sniffing the connection, but the root of problem still remains: should the hijacker has physical access to the computer I guess he can also impersonate the login session (someone in the know may want to correct this statement). Or just think about removable flash drive devices with portable versions of the browsers; the owner logins into his online account (facebook, gmail, whatever...), check the remember me option and keeps the full session encrypted via https (not just the login part). Another user with access to the flash drive could copy the whole content of the data and re- use (hijack) the cookie that holds the session id. Well, if someone has physical access to the hardware, it's game over. They can do everything with it. Encrypting the contents of the HD can limit somewhat what someone can do, though. What I was trying to expose here is that http is a protocol designed mostly for single-user sessions [...] Maybe is just we are not using the right tool for the job... I'd agree, but I don't see things changing any time soon. Just see the status of IPv6 transition: IPv4 addresses are running out, and yet very few people are bothering to switch for IPv6. The same will happen: even if a new protocol is proposed, browsers won't rush to support it because no sites will be using it, and no sites will use it because few browsers support the new protocol. -- 1 + 1 = 3, for large values of 1. Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3b145e.2090...@kalinowski.com.br
Re: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw for module r8169
Am Samstag, 22. Januar 2011 schrieb Joe Riel: I just upgraded my system and got the warnings Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ... update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64 W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw for module r8169 W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-1.fw for module r8169 I then installed firmware-realtek, which provides the missing files. Do I need to reconfigure initramfs-tools for this to take effect? No, a far as I know, the required kernel-modules are searching in /lib/firmware and load, what they need. However, if you do not trust them, you can do update-initramfs -u, which does not do dangerous things. Good luck! Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101221843.05512.hans.ullr...@loop.de
Re: Looking for a audio note player
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 05:13:45 + (UTC) T o n g mlist4sunt...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Any music player can play audio file, but by audio note player, I mean/ hope that the player knows the audio notes. Let me explain with example, Take this as an example, Synaptics' TouchPads Support MultiTouch on Linux! http://goinglinux.com/2010shownotes.html#glp100 I've downloaded the mp3 file, is there any way for any audio-note-aware player to know about the following time stamps, so that it plays audio files just like DVD player play chaptered DVD videos (so that user can jump back and forth between those chapter points)? Thanks 00:00 Going Linux #100 - Synaptics 00:15 Introduction 01:20 Adopting Ubuntu 10.04 02:45 Is Larry switching to Mint? 04:20 Announcing our DVD archives (coming soon) 08:42 Synatpics (not the package manager) introduces advance MultiTouch capabilities for Linux 13:44 The press release 17:36 Is it downloadable? 18:05 Current TouchPad capabilitieson Linux laptops 22:48 iTunes, goinglinux.com, goingli...@gmail.com, @goinglinux, feedback, listen, subscribe 25:29 End I think what you are looking for is similar to the bookmarks feature rockbox provides? However, the bookmarks are not very informative. I've yet to see an audio player that provides this feature other than what rockbox does for portable mp3 players. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110122124334.7875f9b4@t61.debian-linux
Re: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw for module r8169
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 06:43:04PM +0100, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Am Samstag, 22. Januar 2011 schrieb Joe Riel: I just upgraded my system and got the warnings Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ... update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64 W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw for module r8169 W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-1.fw for module r8169 I then installed firmware-realtek, which provides the missing files. Do I need to reconfigure initramfs-tools for this to take effect? No, a far as I know, the required kernel-modules are searching in /lib/firmware and load, what they need. However, if you do not trust them, you can do update-initramfs -u, which does not do dangerous things. The initramfs /might/ need the firmware before / is mounted (example: netbooting) in which case the firmware will be needed in the initrd. So running update-initramfs is certainly going to do no harm, and may be required. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Let's talk about HTTPS Everywhere
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 11:13:31 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In pan.2011.01.22.16.44...@gmail.com, Camaleón wrote: Physical access to the same hardware in a roughly 5 minute window also allows one to impersonate another user on a Kerberos network; that's not generally considered insecure. (...) Not hardware but data. Please provide a scenario where they have access to the data, but not the hardware. Your example quoted above assumed they have access to the removable flash drive, which is hardware. (...) I meant, the hardware itself is irrelevant for the case. It can be on a flash stick, on external drive, on a notebook or even stored online. Once you get the source (the encrypted cookie with the session id) the server does not make further validations. You don't know what is the content of the session id but you can use it anyway. I dunno how easily by-passable is a kerberos based security. You say it is (or it can be) and I have to trust you as I have no experience with this auth method. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.22.18.22...@gmail.com
VirtualBox 4 fails building kernel module (the same with nvidia module)
Recently I updated VirtualBox from 3.2 to 4.0 (non OSE version). From that moment it stopped working, saying that the kernel driver (vboxdrv) is not loaded and suggesting to run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup This fails: -- Stopping VirtualBox kernel modules:done.. Uninstalling old VirtualBox DKMS kernel modules:done.. Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules using DKMS: Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 2.6.38-rc1.mrh.01 (x86_64) Consult the make.log in the build directory /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/ for more information. Failed, trying without DKMS ... failed! Recompiling VirtualBox kernel modules: Look at /var/log/vbox-install.log to find out what went wrong ... failed! -- The above is the /var/log/vbox-install.log Below /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/make.log -- DKMS make.log for vboxhost-4.0.2 for kernel 2.6.38-rc1.mrh.01 (x86_64) Sat Jan 22 18:07:34 GMT 2011 make: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.38-rc1' LD /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/built-in.o LD /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/vboxdrv/built-in.o CC [M] /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/vboxdrv/linux/SUPDrv-linux.o In file included from /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/vboxdrv/include/VBox/types.h:30, from /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/vboxdrv/linux/../SUPDrvInternal.h:35, from /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/vboxdrv/linux/SUPDrv-linux.c:31: /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/vboxdrv/include/iprt/types.h:105:31: error: linux/autoconf.h: No such fil e or directory make[2]: *** [/var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/vboxdrv/linux/SUPDrv-linux.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [/var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/vboxdrv] Error 2 make: *** [_module_/var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build] Error 2 make: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.38-rc1' -- I have home-build kernel, I had the same problem on 2.6.32 first, which worked nicely with VirtualBox 3.2 but stopped after installing VB 4.0 - unfortunately it seems it doesn't help going back to the VB 3.2 version, as the kernel driver module has been deleted and it fails building in the same way. So it seems there is a problem in building kernel modules. I have the same problem with nvidia proprietary driver - fails building. I suspect the problem is I build the kernel with --append-to-version: make-kpkg --initrd --revision=.mrh.01 --append-to-version=.mrh.01 but this helps me keeping things tidy. Now I have no idea where is the problem, is it a known bug or I do something wrong (but it worked to me until recently). And I'm afraid I have no idea which package is the culprit. I use debian sid, kernel from http://www.kernel.org/ (2.6.32 or 2.6.38-rc1), have build and installed linux-image and linux-headers. Any ideas, please? -- Kind regards, Michal R. Hoffmann -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3b20c8.3080...@o2.pl
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Re: Let's talk about HTTPS Everywhere
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:31:10 -0200, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On 01/22/2011 01:39 PM, Camaleón wrote: I wish I had.. sessions carried at server side, hidden fields in forms or variable uri encoding were the common methods used in the past. I don't think you've fully understood the problem. The problem is not that cookies contain sensitive data (well, some do), but rather that even just a session ID - which can be just a random number with no meaning other than identifying in the server data related to that user, even if has nothing sensitive, can be used to hijack the session if another uses gets hold of that ID, depending on how the server side is implemented. Several sites fall to this attack (as FireSheep shows). I confess I don't have a good solution on how to solve that in the server side. Well, I think the problem is that online services rely just on cookies (whether encrypted or not) and do not apply additional verification steps to check if the user is the one who claims to be. And that's a bad proceeding, IMO. If traffic is unencrypted (http), then it's easy to capture session IDs. SSL prevents that, even if someone can sniff the traffic, all they get is random garbage. (At least in theory, but I don't know of any real attack on SSL.) Yes, but there are also cross-site scripting attacks that are not mitigated by using ssl but implementing another methodologies (wikipedia talks about HttpOnly flag to use within the http response header but this is still a draft, if I read it correctly. That's the same reason I was advocating that people should not leave Wi-Fi (even if public) unencrypted. If traffic is unencrypted, it is trivial for anyone to capture session IDs flying in plain text through the air. If the network is encrypted, then it is much harder to capture other people's traffic. (Should be impossible, but there are attacks. But things are much more difficult.) I agree. Wired networks are not that exposed to these attacks. Cookies are insecure by their own nature and fail to provide a proven mechanism for uniquely identifying users. You can hide (by encrypting the file) the content of the cookie and you'll avoid remote side hijacking when someone is sniffing the connection, but the root of problem still remains: should the hijacker has physical access to the computer I guess he can also impersonate the login session (someone in the know may want to correct this statement). Or just think about removable flash drive devices with portable versions of the browsers; the owner logins into his online account (facebook, gmail, whatever...), check the remember me option and keeps the full session encrypted via https (not just the login part). Another user with access to the flash drive could copy the whole content of the data and re- use (hijack) the cookie that holds the session id. Well, if someone has physical access to the hardware, it's game over. They can do everything with it. Encrypting the contents of the HD can limit somewhat what someone can do, though. Having access to removable media is very easy (they're tend to be left unattended, mostly at the office) and a high percentage of the people do not encrypt the data on it neither by software nor hardware. That's why I choose the flash drive to illustrate the above example. What I was trying to expose here is that http is a protocol designed mostly for single-user sessions [...] Maybe is just we are not using the right tool for the job... I'd agree, but I don't see things changing any time soon. Just see the status of IPv6 transition: IPv4 addresses are running out, and yet very few people are bothering to switch for IPv6. The same will happen: even if a new protocol is proposed, browsers won't rush to support it because no sites will be using it, and no sites will use it because few browsers support the new protocol. Yes, and switching to ipv6 should be *a must*, not a *recommended* option. After all, this discussion was generated because people wanted to use ssl all the time for all the tasks and I did not agree on that :-) And I still fail to see why should we encrypt _all_ of our browsing steps regardless its nature. It reminds me the same argument that people uses to convince others to switch into imap instead pop. I can accept that imap provides some advantages, but pop still has it uses. I'm open to changes but with a good and logical reasoning inside. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.22.18.58...@gmail.com
Re: VirtualBox 4 fails building kernel module (the same with nvidia module)
Hi, You're not gonna get much help using non-free software on a tarnished kernel. That said, when i have problems with VBox i just purge everything, dkms included, make sure the drivers are actually deleted, then reinstall, with dkms. Usually does the trick. HTH, Nuno -- Mars 2 Stay! http://xkcd.com/801/ /etc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTinK602hY5RJF=4vtr6r_wk3xg1q5feyre0at...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Let's talk about HTTPS Everywhere
In pan.2011.01.22.18.22...@gmail.com, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 11:13:31 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In pan.2011.01.22.16.44...@gmail.com, Camaleón wrote: Physical access to the same hardware in a roughly 5 minute window also allows one to impersonate another user on a Kerberos network; that's not generally considered insecure. Not hardware but data. Please provide a scenario where they have access to the data, but not the hardware. Your example quoted above assumed they have access to the removable flash drive, which is hardware. I meant, the hardware itself is irrelevant for the case. It can be on a flash stick, on external drive, on a notebook or even stored online. Once you get the source (the encrypted cookie with the session id) the server does not make further validations. You don't know what is the content of the session id but you can use it anyway. As long as the timeout is relatively small (e.g. 5 minutes) this is generally considered secure. HTTPS Everywhere prevents cookies from being intercepted on-the-wire, which prevents sidejacking attacks. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Where are xrandr settings stored?
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 08:55:37 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:13:29 + (UTC) Camaleón dijo: 1/ How can it that xrandr settings are remembered for all the users session? 2/ What is the involved file/tweak command to revert any change and reset its settings? I don't know for sure the answers to these questions, but I have some suggestions for places to look: 1) Rename the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and then restart the computer. This will create a new, clean Xorg.0.log file that will be easier to read than the one you renamed, which probably goes on for pages. Look through the new file for clues. After reading it, make some command in xrandr, which will append new information to the file. Read this new information to see exactly what the command makes X do. Xorg log was one of the first place I looked at but it showed nothing wrong... well, it showed the wrong resolution in use (1280x60). 2) Look in /etc/X11/ for configuration files, particularly xorg.conf. If there is no xorg.conf file try creating a new one using the minimal commands at x.org: Section Device Identifier n Driver nouveau EndSection That was my last-resort solution should I couldn't get restore the right screen size using xrandr but I finally succeeded by running commands on the dark :-) But now you mention... how could I enforce the load of the vesa driver at the boot time? Remember that I am using a virtual machine and VGA driver is being simulated by virtualbox (driver in use is VBoxVideo). 3) Read the wiki at x.org for more fun things to try: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg Yeah, thanks, I know that page much well but my main concern was how to undo the settings when using the xrandr tool :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.22.19.13...@gmail.com
can I install Linux to this phone?
I was wondering if it was possible to install a Debian distro to a LG Dare vx9700? If it is possible to install to this device, some step-by-step help would be greatly appreciated. I no longer have service on the phone, and wanted to turn it into a pocket-sized Linux computer. I was also wondering if it was possible to still use the 3G capabilities of the phone to browse the web after such an install, and if the micro-SD card would mount like on a computer. Thanks in advance...
Re: can I install Linux to this phone?
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Re: Let's talk about HTTPS Everywhere
In pan.2011.01.22.18.58...@gmail.com, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:31:10 -0200, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: That's the same reason I was advocating that people should not leave Wi-Fi (even if public) unencrypted. If traffic is unencrypted, it is trivial for anyone to capture session IDs flying in plain text through the air. If the network is encrypted, then it is much harder to capture other people's traffic. (Should be impossible, but there are attacks. But things are much more difficult.) I agree. Wired networks are not that exposed to these attacks. Not entirely true. On a hubbed network, putting your network card into promiscuous mode will allow you do see other's HTTP traffic and sidejack them. Even on a switched network, there may be a way to fool the switch into giving you enough data from the HTTP traffic to preform a sidejack. WPA2 is still relatively secure. WEP and WPA have known attacks that allow attackers in radio range to effectively tap to connection between the client and the AP, in addition to joining the AP as a client. And I still fail to see why should we encrypt _all_ of our browsing steps regardless its nature. Not encrypting is fine, if you are willing to expose the entirety of the connection to tapping at various locations. Most notably all the switches between you and the destination. However, session cookies (and other authentication tokens) are not generally something you want disclosed with is why end-to-end encryption with some sort of server authentication is recommended for transferring that data. At the end of the day, a server must use *something* in the request itself to associate it with a user. That something must be protected from snooping, so end-to-end encryption is required. Encrypted session cookies are more secure that any of the HTTP Auth mechanisms for use after the initial log in / on. For the initial log in / on, we are already accustomed to using SSL/TLS since it is more widely supported that any of the secure HTTP Auth mechanisms. HTTP Everywhere is meant as a way for users to protect themselves when the servers refuse to for whatever reason. Ideally, servers would take only non- sensitive actions and provide only non-sensitive information over HTTP (and of course, automatically downgrade cookies transferred over HTTP to only for non-sensitive status), but some server don't actually see that as being in their interest. (E.g. Facebook loses relatively few page views if it discloses too much information about you.) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: VirtualBox 4 fails building kernel module (the same with nvidia module)
In 4d3b20c8.3080...@o2.pl, MRH wrote: CC [M] /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/vboxdrv/linux/SUPDrv-linux.o In file included from /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/vboxdrv/include/VBox/types.h:30, from /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/vboxdrv/linux/../SUPDrvInternal.h:35, from /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/vboxdrv/linux/SUPDrv-linux.c:31: /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/vboxdrv/include/iprt/types.h:105:31: error: linux/autoconf.h: No such fil e or directory This file should be provided by the linux-headers-* package for your kernel. Make sure you are this package installed in order to build kernel modules. I have home-build kernel. I suspect the problem is I build the kernel with --append-to-version: make-kpkg --initrd --revision=.mrh.01 --append-to-version=.mrh.01 but this helps me keeping things tidy. I'm not familiar with make-kpkg since the stock Debian kernels have served me well so far. Does it prepare all the linux-* .debs? You'll need linux- headers-* for building kernel modules. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Where are xrandr settings stored?
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 11:13:29AM EST, Camaleón wrote: [..] # xrandr --output VBOX0 --mode 1280x60_60.00 [..] 1/ How can it that xrandr settings are remembered for all the users session? 2/ What is the involved file/tweak command to revert any change and reset its settings? You could try brute force to narrow it down a bit: # touch /tmp/xxx # xrandr ... # find / -type f -newer /tmp/xxx /tmp/filelist # rm /tmp/xxx You may want to run this on a VM with a small file system, and stick the commands in a bash script to limit the number of false positives. cj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110122200922.GA4169@pavo.local
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Re: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw for module r8169
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:09:38 + Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 06:43:04PM +0100, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Am Samstag, 22. Januar 2011 schrieb Joe Riel: I just upgraded my system and got the warnings Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ... update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64 W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw for module r8169 W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-1.fw for module r8169 I then installed firmware-realtek, which provides the missing files. Do I need to reconfigure initramfs-tools for this to take effect? No, a far as I know, the required kernel-modules are searching in /lib/firmware and load, what they need. However, if you do not trust them, you can do update-initramfs -u, which does not do dangerous things. The initramfs /might/ need the firmware before / is mounted (example: netbooting) in which case the firmware will be needed in the initrd. So running update-initramfs is certainly going to do no harm, and may be required. Thanks. I ran update-initramfs. Don't know if *that* did anything, but following a reboot kern.log had changed: WAS: Jan 17 23:26:00 gauss kernel: [1.001780] r8169 :02:00.0:firmware: requesting rtl8168d-2.fw Jan 17 23:26:00 gauss kernel: [1.002981] eth0: unable to apply firmware patch IS: Jan 22 09:52:54 gauss kernel: [0.998226] r8169 :02:00.0:firmware: requesting rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw -- Joe Riel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110122123058.5b5f3492@gauss
Re: can I install Linux to this phone?
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 2:26 PM, carmella schoonmaker monkeyboy199...@yahoo.com wrote: I was wondering if it was possible to install a Debian distro to a LG Dare vx9700? If it is possible to install to this device, some step-by-step help would be greatly appreciated. I no longer have service on the phone, and wanted to turn it into a pocket-sized Linux computer. I was also wondering if it was possible to still use the 3G capabilities of the phone to browse the web after such an install, and if the micro-SD card would mount like on a computer. most probably not. you've got a couple of hurdles to contend with for this to work. first is processor architecture - you're probably good here though. second is a boot loader - your phone isn't an x86 machine so standard assumptions go out the window such as the mbr from sector 0 to 412 - not likely on a phone. second is bootstraping stuff - phones have different features, so you'll probably want to compile most things, so you'll want to get libraries setup for your phone. now, after you're got a base system up, you've got some more issues device drivers for one - i don't think any component on your phone has been made for a computer so you'll have to build it. this probably means everything including keyboard or touch screen, sd card, sim card / radio, wifi, usb, etc. then you've got the ui - you aren't likely to want to type everything. and if you think that x windows is going to play nice with your 3 inch screen, think again. so, you'll be building a ui. after that, you'll need apps - lets start with a web browser. mozilla has done most of the work for you in fennec but you'll still need to do some porting to make it work with gtk / qt / tk / whatever. have i missed anything? probably, but that's a start. see, this is why android is so popular, because when companies think about making a phone, atm, cash register, tv, or any other type of embedded device, they don't just need to worry about the hardware but the ui and making it interface between the user and hardware. nokia made a tablet that ran linux and openmoko (now defunct iirc) made a phone that they ported some linux for and had partially working last i checked. it used to be that windowsce and symbian (and a few others) were what you used if you didn't want to create an embedded system from scratch (and you paid dearly for licensing). now google gives android away so companies use that. they still have to write drivers for hardware, but the rest is pretty much there. you might find a port of android for your phone or maybe openmoko but you're not putting debian on it unless you've got some serious skill.
Re: Let's talk about HTTPS Everywhere
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 13:37:20 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In pan.2011.01.22.18.58...@gmail.com, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:31:10 -0200, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: That's the same reason I was advocating that people should not leave Wi-Fi (even if public) unencrypted. If traffic is unencrypted, it is trivial for anyone to capture session IDs flying in plain text through the air. If the network is encrypted, then it is much harder to capture other people's traffic. (Should be impossible, but there are attacks. But things are much more difficult.) I agree. Wired networks are not that exposed to these attacks. Not entirely true. On a hubbed network, putting your network card into promiscuous mode will allow you do see other's HTTP traffic and sidejack them. Even on a switched network, there may be a way to fool the switch into giving you enough data from the HTTP traffic to preform a sidejack. A wired network can be easily monitored while wireless ones need additional effort. You control the cables so you can control the traffic and possible black points. A misconfigured wifi access point or a buggy firmware in the device can lead to open access to anywhere inside the AP range. WPA2 is still relatively secure. WEP and WPA have known attacks that allow attackers in radio range to effectively tap to connection between the client and the AP, in addition to joining the AP as a client. And WPA2 with AES encryption is considerably slow. There are also drawbacks when you enforce to use of the best encryption method. And I still fail to see why should we encrypt _all_ of our browsing steps regardless its nature. Not encrypting is fine, if you are willing to expose the entirety of the connection to tapping at various locations. Most notably all the switches between you and the destination. However, session cookies (and other authentication tokens) are not generally something you want disclosed with is why end-to-end encryption with some sort of server authentication is recommended for transferring that data. I would prefer to see a good cookie policy that should be enforced to companies. If you want to keep a secret do not write it anywhere. At the end of the day, a server must use *something* in the request itself to associate it with a user. That something must be protected from snooping, so end-to-end encryption is required. Encrypted session cookies are more secure that any of the HTTP Auth mechanisms for use after the initial log in / on. For the initial log in / on, we are already accustomed to using SSL/TLS since it is more widely supported that any of the secure HTTP Auth mechanisms. You need more than encrypted traffic to avoid some of those hijacking attacks. Https helps, sure, but it's not the panacea and the cure for all the treats. It should be used in conjunction with additional measures. HTTP Everywhere is meant as a way for users to protect themselves when the servers refuse to for whatever reason. If the server refuses to provide https the plugin can't do much. Ideally, servers would take only non- sensitive actions and provide only non-sensitive information over HTTP (and of course, automatically downgrade cookies transferred over HTTP to only for non-sensitive status), but some server don't actually see that as being in their interest. (E.g. Facebook loses relatively few page views if it discloses too much information about you.) And precisely Facebook is a perfect example of bad policy (they have a long record of privacy issues, most of them involving coding bugs and relaxed privacy rules). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.22.21.00...@gmail.com
Re: Where are xrandr settings stored?
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:09:22 -0500, Chris Jones wrote: On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 11:13:29AM EST, Camaleón wrote: [..] # xrandr --output VBOX0 --mode 1280x60_60.00 [..] 1/ How can it that xrandr settings are remembered for all the users session? 2/ What is the involved file/tweak command to revert any change and reset its settings? You could try brute force to narrow it down a bit: # touch /tmp/xxx # xrandr ... # find / -type f -newer /tmp/xxx /tmp/filelist # rm /tmp/xxx You may want to run this on a VM with a small file system, and stick the commands in a bash script to limit the number of false positives. That creates a file with 23,339 records on it. Most (all?) of the modified files are under /sys and /proc folder. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.22.21.21...@gmail.com
Re: Let's talk about HTTPS Everywhere
Even on a switched network, there may be a way to fool the switch into giving you enough data from the HTTP traffic to preform a sidejack. http://hakipedia.com/index.php/CAM_Table_Overflow#Description --- On Sat, 1/22/11, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: From: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Let's talk about HTTPS Everywhere To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 9:00 PM On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 13:37:20 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In pan.2011.01.22.18.58...@gmail.com, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:31:10 -0200, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: That's the same reason I was advocating that people should not leave Wi-Fi (even if public) unencrypted. If traffic is unencrypted, it is trivial for anyone to capture session IDs flying in plain text through the air. If the network is encrypted, then it is much harder to capture other people's traffic. (Should be impossible, but there are attacks. But things are much more difficult.) I agree. Wired networks are not that exposed to these attacks. Not entirely true. On a hubbed network, putting your network card into promiscuous mode will allow you do see other's HTTP traffic and sidejack them. Even on a switched network, there may be a way to fool the switch into giving you enough data from the HTTP traffic to preform a sidejack. A wired network can be easily monitored while wireless ones need additional effort. You control the cables so you can control the traffic and possible black points. A misconfigured wifi access point or a buggy firmware in the device can lead to open access to anywhere inside the AP range. WPA2 is still relatively secure. WEP and WPA have known attacks that allow attackers in radio range to effectively tap to connection between the client and the AP, in addition to joining the AP as a client. And WPA2 with AES encryption is considerably slow. There are also drawbacks when you enforce to use of the best encryption method. And I still fail to see why should we encrypt _all_ of our browsing steps regardless its nature. Not encrypting is fine, if you are willing to expose the entirety of the connection to tapping at various locations. Most notably all the switches between you and the destination. However, session cookies (and other authentication tokens) are not generally something you want disclosed with is why end-to-end encryption with some sort of server authentication is recommended for transferring that data. I would prefer to see a good cookie policy that should be enforced to companies. If you want to keep a secret do not write it anywhere. At the end of the day, a server must use *something* in the request itself to associate it with a user. That something must be protected from snooping, so end-to-end encryption is required. Encrypted session cookies are more secure that any of the HTTP Auth mechanisms for use after the initial log in / on. For the initial log in / on, we are already accustomed to using SSL/TLS since it is more widely supported that any of the secure HTTP Auth mechanisms. You need more than encrypted traffic to avoid some of those hijacking attacks. Https helps, sure, but it's not the panacea and the cure for all the treats. It should be used in conjunction with additional measures. HTTP Everywhere is meant as a way for users to protect themselves when the servers refuse to for whatever reason. If the server refuses to provide https the plugin can't do much. Ideally, servers would take only non- sensitive actions and provide only non-sensitive information over HTTP (and of course, automatically downgrade cookies transferred over HTTP to only for non-sensitive status), but some server don't actually see that as being in their interest. (E.g. Facebook loses relatively few page views if it discloses too much information about you.) And precisely Facebook is a perfect example of bad policy (they have a long record of privacy issues, most of them involving coding bugs and relaxed privacy rules). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.22.21.00...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/97048.73019...@web121403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
Re: can I install Linux to this phone?
In 800572.54134...@web31405.mail.mud.yahoo.com, carmella schoonmaker wrote: I was wondering if it was possible to install a Debian distro to a LG Dare vx9700? This is the best hit I found with a simple google search. http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1388842 From what I read it seems like some people other than you would like to see Linux on the phone, but it didn't seem like there was much luck moving toward that goal. Hopefully, that thread can serve as a starting point for modifying your phone's software to do what you'd like it to. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: VirtualBox 4 fails building kernel module (the same with nvidia module)
On 22/01/11 19:42, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In4d3b20c8.3080...@o2.pl, MRH wrote: CC [M] /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/vboxdrv/linux/SUPDrv-linux.o In file included from /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/vboxdrv/include/VBox/types.h:30, from /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/vboxdrv/linux/../SUPDrvInternal.h:35, from /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/vboxdrv/linux/SUPDrv-linux.c:31: /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/vboxdrv/include/iprt/types.h:105:31: error: linux/autoconf.h: No such fil e or directory This file should be provided by the linux-headers-* package for your kernel. Make sure you are this package installed in order to build kernel modules. Installed. As I wrote before, I build and installed both linux-image and linux-headers. I have home-build kernel. I suspect the problem is I build the kernel with --append-to-version: make-kpkg --initrd --revision=.mrh.01 --append-to-version=.mrh.01 but this helps me keeping things tidy. I'm not familiar with make-kpkg since the stock Debian kernels have served me well so far. Does it prepare all the linux-* .debs? You'll need linux- headers-* for building kernel modules. Yes, it builds: linux-image-2.6.38-rc1.mrh.01_.mrh.01_amd64.deb linux-headers-2.6.38-rc1.mrh.01_.mrh.01_amd64.deb and I have them installed. I tried reinstalling dkms, kernel-package, virtualbox, both linux image and headers - still nothing. I installed stock debian kernel - then it worked -ish - I mean both drivers have compiled, however X environment did not work (nvidia driver didn't work) and some other things I use are not available in the stock kernel. Kind regards, Michal -- Michal R. Hoffmann -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3b5845.7000...@o2.pl
Re: VirtualBox 4 fails building kernel module (the same with nvidia module)
On the 22/01/2011 23:20, MRH wrote: On 22/01/11 19:42, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In4d3b20c8.3080...@o2.pl, MRH wrote: CC [M] /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/vboxdrv/linux/SUPDrv-linux.o In file included from /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/vboxdrv/include/VBox/types.h:30, from /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/vboxdrv/linux/../SUPDrvInternal.h:35, from /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/vboxdrv/linux/SUPDrv-linux.c:31: /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/4.0.2/build/vboxdrv/include/iprt/types.h:105:31: error: linux/autoconf.h: No such fil e or directory This file should be provided by the linux-headers-* package for your kernel. Make sure you are this package installed in order to build kernel modules. Installed. As I wrote before, I build and installed both linux-image and linux-headers. I have home-build kernel. I suspect the problem is I build the kernel with --append-to-version: make-kpkg --initrd --revision=.mrh.01 --append-to-version=.mrh.01 but this helps me keeping things tidy. I'm not familiar with make-kpkg since the stock Debian kernels have served me well so far. Does it prepare all the linux-* .debs? You'll need linux- headers-* for building kernel modules. Yes, it builds: linux-image-2.6.38-rc1.mrh.01_.mrh.01_amd64.deb linux-headers-2.6.38-rc1.mrh.01_.mrh.01_amd64.deb and I have them installed. I tried reinstalling dkms, kernel-package, virtualbox, both linux image and headers - still nothing. I installed stock debian kernel - then it worked -ish - I mean both drivers have compiled, however X environment did not work (nvidia driver didn't work) and some other things I use are not available in the stock kernel. Kind regards, Michal I have the same setup, I build my kernel (2.6.37 currently) with kernel-package and both nvidia and VirtualBox 4 work fine (they build automatically with dkms). I don't use extraversion, only --append-to-version and --revision. The problem with extraversion and 2.6.37 is known, it's been reported here if I remember, look for a message starting with kernel-package: 2.6.37 in the archives. But since it seems to affect only proprietary software I guess they'll have to adapt. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3b625b.9000...@googlemail.com
