date:20120229

El Wed, 29 Feb 2012 11:18:40 +0100, jmramirez (mas_ke_na) escribió:

 Camaleón escribió:

 Si el kernel no ve la tarjeta no va a poder trabajar con ella.

 ¿Como puedo confirmar eso? Según lo que he leído esta dentro del
 kernel desde la versión 2.6.24
 
 Ya, pero antes tienes que comprobar si ese chipset que integra tu
 tarjeta está soportado por la versión del kernel que tienes.
 
 Y como hago eso? se que desde el kernel 2.6.24 pa arriba esta integrado
 en el kernel. Al bajarme el paquete ( ya compilado) para el firmware
 puedo cargar el modulo ath5k (modprobe ath5k)
 
 No es eso señal de que esta integrado? o si estuviera integrado, me
 dejaria cargar el modulo sin haberme descargado el paquete
 (firmware-atheros)?
 
 Me parece que estoy algo perdido en esto XD, una mano que no sea al
 cuello please XD

(...)

Al cuello, al cuello, a lo Homer Simpson cuando le agarra del pescuezo a 
Bart :-)

(es broma)

Para saber si el adaptador que tienes está soportado por una versión 
determinada del kernel lo primero es saber el chipset de la tarjeta lo 
que en tu caso no es posible porque el sistema no la detecta.

Así que en este caso habrá que hacer algo más cutrillo, que es indagar 
por ahí a ver qué nos encontramos:

http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k/devices

Bueno, ahí aparece una D-link PCI (DWA-520) así que nos quedamos igual 
(la tuya es DWL-G510). Sigamos...

En la página de Debian:

http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k#Supported_Devices

Anda... ¿ves? Mira, ahí aparece como NO soportadas un modelo muy similar 
al tuyo D-Link DWL-G520M (PCI) con chipset AR5005VL (AR5513) chipset 
(PCI ID 168c:0020) para la que tienes que usar ndiswarapper.

¿Ves lo importante que es el chipset? En tu caso -aunque la tarjeta 
seguramente esté más muerta que viva- es posible que el driver ath5k no 
sea el que le conviene, digo, si la tarjeta funcionara correctamente y 
fuera detectada. 

Vayamos a la página del producto:

http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=308

No sé... no me gusta lo que leo. El driver para windows (de la última 
revisión del adaptador parece ser el RT por lo que la tarjeta podría 
montar un chipset RALink. En fin, que con la cantidad de fabricantes y 
chipsets que hay lo mejor sería asegurarse de qué driver le va.

Por otra parte, tú puedes cargar el módulo del kernel que quieras (fíjate 
que lo has hecho sin que te haya reconocido si quiera la tarjeta) y el 
firmware que prefieras pero eso no significa nada, el dispositivo tiene 
que estar detectado y el driver soportado por el kernel para que funcione 
y se pueda configurar correctamente :-)

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Re: Probelma con motion, captura de imagenes.

El Wed, 29 Feb 2012 02:37:21 -0600, rantis cares escribió:

 Hoy vengo con una pregunta nueva sobre motion. He instalado este soft
 sin embargo tengo un problema.
 
 ejecuto motion y me aparece esto
 
 [0] Processing thread 0 - config file /etc/motion/motion.conf 
 [0] Motion 3.2.9 Started
 [0] Motion going to daemon mode
 
 Sin embargo no comienza ninguna captura de imagenes, reinicio varias
 veces el sistema y una que otra vez comienza a funcionar. 

¿Y qué te dicen los registros? ¿Ya has configurado el programa?

 Solo que cuando reinicio el sistema no arranca motion como demonio (esa
 tambien es otra duda).
 
 Alguna idea de porque sucede esto?.

Seguramente porque te falta por configurarlo para que se ejecute como 
daemon, pero eso es mejor que lo veas en su web donde tienes bastante 
documentación para su puesta en marcha:

http://www.lavrsen.dk/foswiki/bin/view/Motion/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
http://www.lavrsen.dk/foswiki/bin/view/Motion/MotionGuide

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Re: Duda con lspci [Solucionado]

2012-02-29 Thread jmramirez (mas_ke_na)

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Camaleón escribió:
 El Wed, 29 Feb 2012 11:18:40 +0100, jmramirez (mas_ke_na) escribió:
 
 Camaleón escribió:
 
 Si el kernel no ve la tarjeta no va a poder trabajar con ella.

 ¿Como puedo confirmar eso? Según lo que he leído esta dentro del
 kernel desde la versión 2.6.24

 Ya, pero antes tienes que comprobar si ese chipset que integra tu
 tarjeta está soportado por la versión del kernel que tienes.

 Y como hago eso? se que desde el kernel 2.6.24 pa arriba esta integrado
 en el kernel. Al bajarme el paquete ( ya compilado) para el firmware
 puedo cargar el modulo ath5k (modprobe ath5k)

 No es eso señal de que esta integrado? o si estuviera integrado, me
 dejaria cargar el modulo sin haberme descargado el paquete
 (firmware-atheros)?

 Me parece que estoy algo perdido en esto XD, una mano que no sea al
 cuello please XD
 
 (...)
 
 Al cuello, al cuello, a lo Homer Simpson cuando le agarra del pescuezo a 
 Bart :-)
 
 (es broma)
 
 Para saber si el adaptador que tienes está soportado por una versión 
 determinada del kernel lo primero es saber el chipset de la tarjeta lo 
 que en tu caso no es posible porque el sistema no la detecta.

Busque por la red y vi que el chipset era el athk5. Por eso usaba ese.
Pero me apunto tus búsquedas.

 
 Así que en este caso habrá que hacer algo más cutrillo, que es indagar 
 por ahí a ver qué nos encontramos:
 
 http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k/devices
 
 Bueno, ahí aparece una D-link PCI (DWA-520) así que nos quedamos igual 
 (la tuya es DWL-G510). Sigamos...
 
 En la página de Debian:
 
 http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k#Supported_Devices
 
 Anda... ¿ves? Mira, ahí aparece como NO soportadas un modelo muy similar 
 al tuyo D-Link DWL-G520M (PCI) con chipset AR5005VL (AR5513) chipset 
 (PCI ID 168c:0020) para la que tienes que usar ndiswarapper.

Ok, pero esa no es mi caso, aunque como explicación lo has bordado XD

 
 ¿Ves lo importante que es el chipset? En tu caso -aunque la tarjeta 
 seguramente esté más muerta que viva- es posible que el driver ath5k no 
 sea el que le conviene, digo, si la tarjeta funcionara correctamente y 
 fuera detectada. 
 
 Vayamos a la página del producto:
 
 http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=308
 
 No sé... no me gusta lo que leo. El driver para windows (de la última 
 revisión del adaptador parece ser el RT por lo que la tarjeta podría 
 montar un chipset RALink. En fin, que con la cantidad de fabricantes y 
 chipsets que hay lo mejor sería asegurarse de qué driver le va.

Ok, hoy traje una con chipset AR5212/AR5213 la cual va perfectamente
con el ath5k y el sistema la reconoce (con el ifconfig) después de
cargar el modulo (modprobe ath5k).

04:02.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5212/AR5213
Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)


root@jmramirez:/home/jmramirez# lspci -n -s 04:02.0
04:02.0 0200: 168c:0013 (rev 01)

La tarjeta es D-Link DWL-G520
 
 Por otra parte, tú puedes cargar el módulo del kernel que quieras (fíjate 
 que lo has hecho sin que te haya reconocido si quiera la tarjeta) y el 
 firmware que prefieras pero eso no significa nada, el dispositivo tiene 
 que estar detectado y el driver soportado por el kernel para que funcione 
 y se pueda configurar correctamente :-)
 
 Saludos,

Como siempre, perfecta en tus explicaciones. Muchas gracias por todo.
Tas invitada a una rosa virtual

Solo es para Camaleon XD. Las manos fuera:
http://www.xtec.es/ceipdrassanes/rosa.jpg

Un saludo y gracias de nuevo

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Re: Duda con lspci [Solucionado]

El Wed, 29 Feb 2012 13:39:46 +0100, jmramirez (mas_ke_na) escribió:

 Camaleón escribió:

 Para saber si el adaptador que tienes está soportado por una versión
 determinada del kernel lo primero es saber el chipset de la tarjeta lo
 que en tu caso no es posible porque el sistema no la detecta.
 
 Busque por la red y vi que el chipset era el athk5. Por eso usaba ese.
 Pero me apunto tus búsquedas.

Pero eso no sirve :-)

Repito, hay varios chipsets para un mismo modelo de tarjeta, así que 
hasta que no sepas:

a) Chipset de TU tarjeta
b) Revisión/modelo de TU tarjeta

No vas a saber que módulo del kernel o qué driver la soporta.

 Anda... ¿ves? Mira, ahí aparece como NO soportadas un modelo muy
 similar al tuyo D-Link DWL-G520M (PCI) con chipset AR5005VL (AR5513)
 chipset (PCI ID 168c:0020) para la que tienes que usar ndiswarapper.
 
 Ok, pero esa no es mi caso, aunque como explicación lo has bordado XD

¿No es tu caso? Preguntemos al oráculo de Google:

D-Link DWL-G510
http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/2115

Vaya, mira por donde, hay varios adaptadores *del mismo modelo* con 
diferentes chipsets y los posibles drivers son tres (juvar):

- ndiswrapper
- ath5k
- ralink

Luego tienes un 33,3% de posibilidades de acertar con el ath5k ;-)

 No sé... no me gusta lo que leo. El driver para windows (de la última
 revisión del adaptador parece ser el RT por lo que la tarjeta podría
 montar un chipset RALink. En fin, que con la cantidad de fabricantes y
 chipsets que hay lo mejor sería asegurarse de qué driver le va.
 
 Ok, hoy traje una con chipset AR5212/AR5213 la cual va perfectamente
 con el ath5k y el sistema la reconoce (con el ifconfig) después de
 cargar el modulo (modprobe ath5k).
 
 04:02.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5212/AR5213
 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
 
 
 root@jmramirez:/home/jmramirez# lspci -n -s 
 04:02.0 04:02.0 0200: 168c:0013 (rev 01)
 
 La tarjeta es D-Link DWL-G520

Hombre... claro, ese chipset sí está soportado por el driver ath5k, 
aparece en la página de la wiki de Debian y en la del linuxwireless, así 
que ahí no tienes pérdida.

 Como siempre, perfecta en tus explicaciones. Muchas gracias por todo.
 Tas invitada a una rosa virtual
 
 Solo es para Camaleon XD. Las manos fuera:
 http://www.xtec.es/ceipdrassanes/rosa.jpg

Gracias, pero las flores donde mejor están en el campo, me da una penica 
verlas asín...

Saludos,

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Re: servidor debian

2012-02-29 Thread Rodolfo Vargas






 De: Lietzan Mota Rosabales liet...@uic.camaguey.cu
Para: Debian user spanish debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org 
Enviado: Martes 28 de febrero de 2012 8:31
Asunto: servidor debian
 
hola lista, soy relativamente nuevo en este mundo del soft libre, ya logre

Bienvenida, si eres nueva hay que leer bastante antes de preguntar :)

montar un servidor de correo y navegacion,pero ahora el problema es para
crear un servidor de dominio, se que para esto se emplea Samba y bind para
dns,mi problema no radica tanto en esto sino a la hora de poner políticas
de seguridad,como manejar este concepto, en el caso del Windows server que
es el que utilizaba es relativamente sencillo, como seria en debian
teniendo en cuenta que tendré estaciones de trabajo tanto en windows como
en debian,ya que son dos muy diferentes y ambos manejan la seguridad de
forma también muy diferente.

Tambien les agradeceria que me dieran una lista de todo lo que debe ser

todo? no te parece que antes de pedir alguna cosa debes de investigar un poco?, 
si quieres usar gnu/linux y software libre el primer paso es investigar tu, 
luego cuando ya estés un poco más clara preguntar por aquí.

implementado en un server de dominio en debian el cual cumpla con todos los
requerimientos de seguridad y funcionabilidad.

Samba con controlador de dominio, busca e intenta, es mi consejo..., saludos.


Gracias de de antemano por sus respuestas
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RES: Onde_Pacote_Está_instalado

2012-02-29 Thread Bruno Ambrosio

Christian,

Voce pode usar o comando whereis nome ele vai mostrar os 
caminhos que você precisa.

Abs.,
Bruno Ambrosio
TI Operacional

De: Christian Rosa [mailto:christiant.i...@gmail.com]
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 29 de fevereiro de 2012 00:13
Para: d-u-p
Assunto: Onde_Pacote_Está_instalado

Pessoal como faço para descobrir onde o pacote está instalado ?
O por que da pergunta, estou prestando consultoria a um firewall com Debian, e 
tem o sniffer IMSNIFF instalado, agora quero startar ele pois o mesmo está 
parado e não estou achando uma forma, alguém pode me ajudar ?

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Re: Onde_Pacote_Está_instalado

2012-02-29 Thread Dane

Vc pode usar o whereis pacote ou locate pacote ou ainda dpkg -L 
pacote (caso tenha sido instalado o pacote .deb).


Abraço
Em 29-02-2012 00:13, Christian Rosa escreveu:

Pessoal como faço para descobrir onde o pacote está instalado ?
O por que da pergunta, estou prestando consultoria a um firewall com 
Debian, e tem o sniffer IMSNIFF instalado, agora quero startar ele 
pois o mesmo está parado e não estou achando uma forma, alguém pode me 
ajudar ?


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Em 28 de fevereiro de 2012 18:49, Moksha Tux gova...@gmail.com escreveu:
Poxa meu querido peço mil perdões mas ainda não consegui entender, consegui
criar o LVM durante a instalação o que ficou assim, dm-0 onde seria o raiz,
dm-1 onde seria o swap e dm-2 o /var. feito isso instalei o KVM e suas
dependências e pronto... pois bem vamos criar uma VM, vejo artigos na
internet que explicam a criação de VMs .img e VM baseado em LVM e é
exatamente aí que encontro dúvida pois não sei que contexto é esse e eu
costumo criar as VMs através do virt-manager e não encontro opção de criar a
VM em uma LVM, peço perdão se não estou conseguindo externar melhor a minha
dúvida mas será que estou no caminho certo? mais uma vez obrigado pela
atenção.

Olá novamente, acho que entendi a sua dúvida agora.
* Você tem que ir no menu Editar - Detalhes do Hospedeiro.
* Na tela que se abrirá, vá na aba Armazenamento e no canto inferior
esquerdo clique em adicionar um pool.
* Na nova tela selecione um nome (eu optei pelo nome do VG mesmo) e o
tipo logical(LVM).
* Depois selecione o caminho de destino e clique em concluir.

Pronto, agora o seu pool está criado. Quando for criar uma VM, na
etapa em que você cria o disco virtual faça o seguinte.
* Marque a opção Selecionar armazenamento gerenciado ou outro
existente e clique em procurar.
* Na tela que se abrirá, selecione o pool que você criou para a LVM no
lado esquerdo e no lado direito você cria um novo LV e seleciona ele
para uso com essa VM.

Voilá =)

Moksha

Espero que isso te ajude.

André Ribas

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Re: Onde_Pacote_Está_instalado

2012-02-29 Thread Rodolfo

dpkg -L NOME_DO_PACOTE

alguns pacotes tem uma lista bem grande, voce pode por apos o comando
acima   | more   (o conteudo dentro das aspas mas sem as aspas).


Abraços.
Em 28 de fevereiro de 2012 23:13, Christian Rosa
christiant.i...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Pessoal como faço para descobrir onde o pacote está instalado ?
 O por que da pergunta, estou prestando consultoria a um firewall com
 Debian, e tem o sniffer IMSNIFF instalado, agora quero startar ele pois o
 mesmo está parado e não estou achando uma forma, alguém pode me ajudar ?

 Cordialmente,

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Kde Touchpad programı çöküyor.

2012-02-29 Thread Serkan KURT

Bu gün sistemi güncelledim. Daha önceden açtığım taoucpad tapping özelliği 
pasif oldu. Sistem ayarlarında Kayıp Bulunan kısmında bulunan Toucpad simgesi 
güncellemeden sonra Girdi Aygıtları kısmında görünüyor. Tapping'i tekrar 
aktif etmek için Toucpad simgesine tıkladığımda KDE çöküş bilgi sistemi 
ekranı geliyor. Sorunu nasıl çözebilirim?

Not: Tapping olayını 50-synaptics.conf dosyasına aşağıda ki satırları 
ekleyerek çözdüm. 

Section InputClass
    Identifier touchpad catchall
    Driver synaptics
    MatchIsTouchpad on
    Option TapButton1 1
    Option VertEdgeScroll 1
EndSection


Çökme bilgileri aşağıda ki gibi;



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Re: Debian and OSS vs vSphere

2012-02-29 Thread Davide Mirtillo

Il 28/02/2012 20:08, Peter Teunissen ha scritto:
 
 On 28 feb. 2012, at 16:15, Robert Brockway wrote:
 
 On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Davide Mirtillo wrote:

 I was also wondering if any of you had opinions regarding Proxmox.

 http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Main_Page

 It seems like a solid solution and it also looks it's gonna be something
 that works out of the box by just installing it, which is kinda what i
 was hoping for - yes, i know, i'm lazy :)

 Hi Davide.  I was just about to send a reply to your other email suggesting 
 you try Proxmox :)

 It offers OpenVZ and KVM so allows you to enjoy using Linux containers or 
 fully virtualised systems.

 I've used OpenVZ a lot over the years and trialed Proxmox a while back and 
 was quite impressed.
 
 I'd like to add my own positive experience with proxmox in a small 
 environment. 
 
 Having experience with openvz on my private servers, I quickly gravitated 
 towards promox when looking for something supporting containers, virtual 
 machines and sporting a GUI even my windows minded fellow team members could 
 understand ;-). I use it to run a server that supports our development team. 
 It uses containers for java web apps (confluence and Jira) and network 
 services like DNS and dhcp and virtual machines running windows to do 
 software upgrade tests, evaluate software and supply remote users or team 
 members running linux on their laptops with RDP sessions to the unavoidable 
 set of windows dev apps. 
 
 I can happily run ±5 containers and ±5 window VM's on a quad core server with 
 16GB. The GUI is quite intuitive and provides enough functionality. Deploying 
 a new VM or container is a breeze. It should also support live migration 
 between hardware nodes, although i didn't test this. Backups are easy to 
 setup either to directly connected storage of something like NFS. Best of 
 all, it's debian beneath the GUI, so on the cli, if needed, you'll feel right 
 at home.
 
 Peter
 

Hello Peter,
that is some good information right there - i installed proxmox 2.0 rc1
yesterday afternoon on a workstation computer, for testing, and i am
currently looking at the performance.
Would you please be more specific about the configuration of the machine
you are using? ie cpu model, disk / controller configuration, installed
nics, etc.. A private reply would be enough!

The solution i am looking for will determine the hardware i will be
ordering, so i am concerned about it right now.

How should i consider technologies like KVM and openVZ regarding
stability? I'm talking about downtimes and maintenance time. I heard
multiple opinions on xen being a bad thing to work with, both
performance wise and stability wise. I wouldn't want to set this
private cloud up only to discover it's not production ready!

I am also wondering how i will be able to deal with storage and multiple
nodes: how does proxmox behave on the matter? In case the main machine
goes down i would be pretty screwed, wouldn't i?

I guess that since proxmox is debian derivate i could eventually have a
separate machine for storage and just mount a remote share through fuse
and use that, but i'm open for suggestions.
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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #342

2012-02-29 Thread pastor alexander

On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 13:21:54 +1100,  
debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote:



Content-Type: text/plain

debian-user-digest Digest   Volume 2012 : Issue 342

Today's Topics:
  Contest logging project   [ Nate Bargmann n...@n0nb.us ]
  Re: Contest logging project   [ Nate Bargmann n...@n0nb.us ]
  Audiobooks[ Sian Mountbatten  
poenikatu@fastmai ]
  Re: Debian and OSS vs vSphere [ Gilles Mocellin  
gilles.mocellin@nu ]
  Re: Audiobooks[ Julien Claassen  
jul...@mail.upb.de ]

  Re: Audiobooks[ Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com ]
  Re: [Ubuntu-hams] Contest logging pr  [ Martin Ewing  
martin.s.ewing@gmail. ]
  Re: Free movies on the Internet -- d  [ Scott Ferguson  
scott.ferguson.debi ]
  Re: Debian and OSS vs vSphere [ Alexey Eromenko  
al4...@gmail.com ]

  Re: Audiobooks[ Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com ]
  Re: Audiobooks[ Julien Claassen  
jul...@mail.upb.de ]



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Re: Postgresql-8.1 Removal Problems

On Tuesday 28 February 2012 21:03:15 debian-user-digest-
requ...@lists.debian.org wrote:
  Package apparently obselete, dependencies no longer installable.
  However, I cannot remove it. 
 
 How did you remove it? apt-get, aptitude, dpkg, synaptic...
apt-get / dpkg -r/ dpkg -P
I do not use aptitude
 
  Get error: update-rc.d: warning: postgresql-8.1 stop runlevel arguments
  (0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (S 0 1 6)
 
  
 
  How do I get rid of it.
 
 (...)
 
 Despite the above error which I've also seen when you stop/restart/remove 
 may of the init scripts, is the package still installed?
 
 dpkg -l | grep postgre

It is still there.

Manually stopping the daemon does not produce any error or output and the 
removal error remains.


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Re: Debian and OSS vs vSphere

2012-02-29 Thread Davide Mirtillo

Il 29/02/2012 01:18, Alexey Eromenko ha scritto:
 Basically the idea is this:
 
 On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Gilles Mocellin
 gilles.mocel...@nuagelibre.org wrote:
 Le 28/02/2012 22:11, Alexey Eromenko a écrit :

 Since here are 2 proxmox heads, let me ask:
 1. What's the name of their WUI ? (Web GUI)
 
 Proxmox VE web interface is the official name.
 
 2. Does it fit into Debian, by simply packaging their GUI ? (or it
 requires some incompatible changes?)
 
 According to:
 http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Install_Proxmox_VE_on_Debian_Lenny
 
 The package is named proxmox-ve.
 
 But then again: (about Proxmox WUI)
 1. It is not part of Debian. (they add 3rd party repo to install it on
 Debian, but packages are not in Debian) -- unlike OpenStack and
 phpvirtualbox (latter is pending review).
 2. I was unable to find the source of this Web GUI. What's the license ?
 3. Will it fit into Debian, assuming someone will package it ?
 4. They use custom (non-Debian) kernel, but this is probably not
 needed, because Debian (stable) has OpenVZ kernel.
 
 All-in-all, if Proxmox WUI could be decoupled from Proxmox-the-distro,
 (and Debianized), it could be a good move. I'm not volunteering to
 package it at this time, but I do volunteer to test it.
 
 Maybe you could ask them, if they want to become a Debian Pure Blend ?
 (meaning they package all the stuff for Debian, adhering to the Debian
 Policy, and build 100% Debian-based distro, sharing testing 
 maintenance effort with us)
 

Seems like they are working on a guide to install Proxmox on a plain
Debian Squeeze:

http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Install_Proxmox_VE_on_Debian_Squeeze

I would feel much, much, *much* safer if Proxmox would be just a package
for Debian and i could get all the software from the Debian repos, but i
guess having an install cd and calling it a distribution can have its
marketing purposes.

I chose to go with the install cd i downloaded off their website since
usually guides like the one i linked always cause issues, but i admit i
did not try the procedure.

Anyway, from what i can see, the 2.0 interface works like a charm and i
had no trouble setting up a couple VMs just to play with: I'm really
impressed! Having something like this on the official Debian repo would
be immensely great for the community and all of the softwares involved.
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Re: Debian and OSS vs vSphere

2012-02-29 Thread oneman


On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:02:56 +0100, Davide Mirtillo wrote:


Il 28/02/2012 20:08, Peter Teunissen ha scritto:

On 28 feb. 2012, at 16:15, Robert Brockway wrote:


On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Davide Mirtillo wrote:


I was also wondering if any of you had opinions regarding Proxmox.
http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Main_Page [1] It seems like a solid
solution and it also looks it's gonna be something that works out
of the box by just installing it, which is kinda what i was hoping
for - yes, i know, i'm lazy :)

Hi Davide. I was just about to send a reply to your other email
suggesting you try Proxmox :) It offers OpenVZ and KVM so allows 
you

to enjoy using Linux containers or fully virtualised systems. I've
used OpenVZ a lot over the years and trialed Proxmox a while back 
and

was quite impressed.

I'd like to add my own positive experience with proxmox in a small
environment. Having experience with openvz on my private servers, I
quickly gravitated towards promox when looking for something 
supporting
containers, virtual machines and sporting a GUI even my windows 
minded
fellow team members could understand ;-). I use it to run a server 
that

supports our development team. It uses containers for java web apps
(confluence and Jira) and network services like DNS and dhcp and
virtual machines running windows to do software upgrade tests, 
evaluate
software and supply remote users or team members running linux on 
their
laptops with RDP sessions to the unavoidable set of windows dev 
apps. I

can happily run ±5 containers and ±5 window VM's on a quad core
server with 16GB. The GUI is quite intuitive and provides enough
functionality. Deploying a new VM or container is a breeze. It 
should
also support live migration between hardware nodes, although i 
didn't

test this. Backups are easy to setup either to directly connected
storage of something like NFS. Best of all, it's debian beneath the
GUI, so on the cli, if needed, you'll feel right at home. Peter



Hello Peter, that is some good information right there - i installed
proxmox 2.0 rc1 yesterday afternoon on a workstation computer, for
testing, and i am currently looking at the performance.


Keep in mind that 2.0 is still unstable. For real world use I'd stick 
to 1.9 for now or wait for 2.0 final to be released.



Would you please
be more specific about the configuration of the machine you are 
using? ie

cpu model, disk / controller configuration, installed nics, etc.. A
private reply would be enough!


It's a IBM System x3200 M3 with a Intel Xeon x3430 4-core 2.4ghz, 16GB 
ram, 4x 500GB cold-swap SATA in RAID 10 configuration using IBM 
ServeRAIDBR10iL controller and dual Intel 82574L Gigabit NIC.



The solution i am looking for will
determine the hardware i will be ordering, so i am concerned about it
right now. How should i consider technologies like KVM and openVZ
regarding stability? I'm talking about downtimes and maintenance 
time.


My system has been running over a year now 24/7 and has had one lockup 
that required a  reboot of the HW node. Apart from that, the HW node has 
been maintenance free. Upgrading to a new version is as easy as 
upgrading any Debian system. Keep in mind that my setup is a simple one, 
I don't use multiple nodes or networked storage. So, YMMV. On my private 
servers I use openvz directly on stock debian squeeze and it has never 
failed me. The only issues I had were with live migrating containers 
from one node to another, but that may very well be caused by the 
specific setup I use, where both nodes are on separate subnets. As for 
performance, the most demanding container I have is one running 
Confluence wiki and Jira issue manager (java based) with a postgresql 
DB. I've had that setup running on a (remote, professionally setup and 
maintained) vmware cluster (as a CentOS linux VM) and on my local 
proxmox server (as a openvz debian container). The local proxmox based 
on performed slightly better. I don't have any info on the setup of that 
VMware cluster, so it's just anecdotal 'evidence'.



I heard multiple opinions on xen being a bad thing to work with, both
performance wise and stability wise. I wouldn't want to set this 
private

cloud up only to discover it's not production ready!


Like I mentioned above, I haven't got experience using proxmox with 
multiple nodes. It seems to support it just fine and I haven't seen big 
issues with it on the proxmox forums [3]. But again, others (the proxmox 
forum [3]?) might be more informative.



I am also wondering
how i will be able to deal with storage and multiple nodes: how does
proxmox behave on the matter? In case the main machine goes down i 
would

be pretty screwed, wouldn't i?


IIRC Promox does support live migration for networked storage for KVM, 
and AFAIR the upcoming 2.0 will also support it for for containers. 
Check the proxmox wiki [2], there's a page on (HA) storage solutions 
[4].
If by 'main machine' you mean the shared storage, then yes, when it

Re: Debian and OSS vs vSphere


On 29/02/12 00:18, Alexey Eromenko wrote:

1. It is not part of Debian. (they add 3rd party repo to install it on
Debian, but packages are not in Debian) -- unlike OpenStack and
phpvirtualbox (latter is pending review).


Just to be clear to all, phpvirtualbox is not in Debian. It's not in the 
NEW queue, so I guessed pending review here means it's being reviewed 
by a developer with a view to sponsoring a new upload. However I did 
some investigation and unfortunately it's not even that far: it

has been packaged and the maintainer is seeking a debian developer to
review it.


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Re: Debian and OSS vs vSphere


On 29/02/12 08:02, Davide Mirtillo wrote:

How should i consider technologies like KVM and openVZ regarding
stability? I'm talking about downtimes and maintenance time. I heard
multiple opinions on xen being a bad thing to work with, both
performance wise and stability wise. I wouldn't want to set this
private cloud up only to discover it's not production ready!


My advice would be to stick to technologies which are widely deployed 
and supported, so ideally things that are in the mainline Kernel, or

are explicitly supported by a commercial distro, e.g. Red Hat.

That rules in KVM but rules out OpenVZ.

There is an argument that virtualisation technologies (Xen, KVM) are
more heavyweight than container technologies (linux vserver, OpenVZ,
lxc).  However in my experience and especially with modern hardware,
this is rarely an issue: for example I run ~100 KVM VMs on top of 5 year 
old hosts. I'd suggest going for a virtualisation technology,

and I'd suggest KVM - unless your management software layer (proxmox
or whatever) dictates another e.g. Xen in which case the management
layer is a more important decision.


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Re: Checking SHA256SUMS against SHA256SUMS.sign .


On 28/02/12 19:29, Sthu Deus wrote:

I try to check live CDs SHA256SUMS against SHA256SUMS.sign:

under normal user:
gpg --verify SHA256SUMS.sign SHA256SUMS


Wrong tool! GPG is for verifying signatures, not hash sums. Try 
'sha256sum' from coreutils.



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Re: Debian and OSS vs vSphere

2012-02-29 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby


On 02/29/2012 12:33 PM, Jon Dowland wrote:

That rules in KVM but rules out OpenVZ.


Agreed.
But I would add: depending on the needs, hve a look at LXC.

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How to make curl print only html content?

2012-02-29 Thread 斟酌鵬兄

I wanna make curl in a cronjob like this
FILE=$(curl http://www.examples.com)

But when I did this cron sent me an email with curl's output :

% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload 
Total Spent Left Speed

0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 0 100 13 0 13 0 0 18 0 --:--:-- 
--:--:-- --:--:-- 60

How do I make it silent?

with -silent option I get its headers assigned in $FILE too
How do I get rid of it?


Regards,
Penguin

Re: Postgresql-8.1 Removal Problems

2012-02-29 Thread Keith McKenzie


On 29/02/12 08:16, David Baron wrote:


It is still there.

Manually stopping the daemon does not produce any error or output and the
removal error remains.


   

Maybe 'deborphan' could help; no harm in trying.


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Re: Free movies on the Internet -- download scams [OT]

2012-02-29 Thread nepal

On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 11:13:39 +1100
Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 28/02/12 21:20, nepal wrote:
  On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:53:54 +
  Sian Mountbatten poenik...@fastmail.co.uk wrote:
  
  Hi All!
 
  It occurred to me that there might be free movies to download. So I
  did a web search with Google and got lots of sites;
 
 
 snipped
 
 
  So no movies for free.
 
  Anybody else had this experience? And what can be done about it?
 
 
  There is a distributed torrent client available now that does
  overcome some of the problems with torrents and tracking
  downloaders, 
 
 
 Some ain't *all*.
 eg. if you use tribler to download copyrighted material you can still
 be prosecuted. Have you ever considered how long records are kept
 for? Or whether it might affect some peoples careers?
 
 Anyone can join tribler - the files are fingerprinted (hashed) -
 that's how the system works. Having obtained the hashes of files it
 takes seconds for Cisco and other DPI vendors (including many ISPs) to
 distribute the list of illegal file hashes across the globe to their
 clients. Had you considered that before advising others to try it?
 
 The road to hell is paved with good/enthusiastic(?) intentions, and
 signposted with ignorance. :-(
 
 It's a capitalist society, if you don't like Hollywood (and Rupert
 Murdoch) vote with your wallet. Flattr free music and movie
 distributors
 - that's free as in Debian is free, not gratis.
 snipped
 
 
 
 Kind regards
 

well I didn't ask for your moral guidance did I?

that's because it was not required. Fuck you and your values and your
fucking insane world.

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Re: Audiobooks


Lina!
  Does youtube support upload in aa-format?
  This would be cool, since you might use youtube-dl (a python script) to 
download it again and then you can use mplayer to transcode it:
mplayer -vo null -vc null -ao pcm:file=my_name.wav 
youtube.whatever_video_format

  then you could easily convert it to mp3 or ogg.
  Warm regards
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Re: Checking SHA256SUMS against SHA256SUMS.sign .

2012-02-29 Thread Sthu Deus

Good time of the day, Jon.


Thank You for Your time and answer.
You worte:

 I try to check live CDs SHA256SUMS against SHA256SUMS.sign:

 under normal user:
 gpg --verify SHA256SUMS.sign SHA256SUMS

Wrong tool! GPG is for verifying signatures, not hash sums. Try 
'sha256sum' from coreutils.

And that's what I need - to check if the sums the SHA256SUMS contains
are from trusted source.


Sthu.


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Re: How to make curl print only html content?

2012-02-29 Thread Double Dark

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 05:30:43PM +0800, 斟酌鵬兄 wrote:
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 17:30:43 +0800
From: 斟酌鵬兄 tgc...@gmail.com
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: How to make curl print only html content?

I wanna make curl in a cronjob like this
FILE=$(curl http://www.examples.com)

But when I did this cron sent me an email with curl's output :

% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload 
Total Spent Left Speed

0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 0 100 13 0 13 0 0 18 0 --:--:-- 
--:--:-- --:--:-- 60

How do I make it silent?

with -silent option I get its headers assigned in $FILE too
How do I get rid of it?

Regards,
Penguin

The curl's output above is stderr.  You can execute like this:
=$(curl http://www.examples.com 2/dev/null)

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Re: NFS trouble

2012-02-29 Thread Raffaele Morelli

2012/2/27 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com

  You have to use static ports for statd, mountd, and lockd if you're
  not using nfsv4. (You don't have to use the same static assignments
  used below.)
 
  - Set
  STATDOPTS=--port 4003 --outgoing-port 4004
  in /etc/default/nfs-common
 
  - Set
  RPCMOUNTDOPTS=-p 4002
  in /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server
 
  - Set
  options lockd nlm_udpport=4001 nlm_tcpport=4001
  in /etc/modprobe.d/lockd.conf
 
  - Open the relevant ports with iptables
 
  Ok, so I guess I should ask my net admin to open all relevant ports for
  mountd, nlockmgr and status as showed in `rpcinfo -p` OR whatever port I
  would like to use for STATDOPTS, RPCMOUNTDOPTS and lockd.
  Is it right?


 Yes, but you have to fix the port numbers by editing the files above
 because they'll be variable otherwise.


That did it, thank you.

regards
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Re: How to direct output into the LibreOffice Calc

2012-02-29 Thread Darac Marjal

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:06:48PM +0800, lina wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I wonder:
 
 1]
 
 can the output like:
 
 5
 3
 1
 5
 3
 
 direct it into the LibreOffice directly. without copy and paste.

Directly, no. However, LibreOffice has an extensive API[1]. In theory,
you could create a script (there is a python example) that accepts
input, starts LibreOffice and then pastes the lines into cells (I'm
assuming you want the numbers in a spreadsheet). If you have ever
programmed Excel, LibreOffice shouldn't present much of a learning
curve.

[1] http://api.libreoffice.org/

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Re: Audiobooks

2012-02-29 Thread Lorenzo Sutton

Meanwhile I added explicitly Linux incompatibility, which seems to be 
widely reported, to the Wikipedia page, in case people hit it searching 
for the format ;)


Lorenzo.

On 29/02/12 11:07, Julien Claassen wrote:

Lina!
  Does youtube support upload in aa-format?
  This would be cool, since you might use youtube-dl (a python script) 
to download it again and then you can use mplayer to transcode it:
mplayer -vo null -vc null -ao pcm:file=my_name.wav 
youtube.whatever_video_format

  then you could easily convert it to mp3 or ogg.
  Warm regards
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Re: Checking SHA256SUMS against SHA256SUMS.sign .

2012-02-29 Thread Darac Marjal

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 02:29:33AM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:
 Good time of the day.
 
 
 I try to check live CDs SHA256SUMS against SHA256SUMS.sign:
 
 under normal user:
 gpg --verify SHA256SUMS.sign SHA256SUMS
 gpg: directory `/home/__/gue/.gnupg' created
 gpg: new configuration file `/home/__/gue/.gnupg/gpg.conf' created
 gpg: WARNING: options in `/home/__/gue/.gnupg/gpg.conf' are not yet
 active during this run gpg: keyring `/home/__/gue/.gnupg/pubring.gpg'
 created gpg: Signature made Mon 17 Oct 2011 07:55:55 PM GMT-7 using RSA
 key ID 6CA7B5A6 gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found
 
 
 then by root user:
 
 # gpg --recv-key --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net 6CA7B5A6  gpg
 --verify ./SHA256SUMS.sign gpg: requesting key 6CA7B5A6 from hkp server
 subkeys.pgp.net gpg: key 6CA7B5A6: Debian Live Signing Key
 debian-l...@lists.debian.org not changed gpg: Total number
 processed: 1 gpg:  unchanged: 1
 gpg: no signed data
 gpg: can't hash datafile: file open error
 
 
 Now, under normal user:
 
 $ gpg --verify SHA256SUMS.sign SHA256SUMS
 gpg: Signature made Mon 17 Oct 2011 07:55:55 PM GMT-7 using RSA key ID
 6CA7B5A6 gpg: Good signature from Debian Live Signing Key
 debian-l...@lists.debian.org gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified
 with a trusted signature! gpg:  There is no indication that the
 signature belongs to the owner. Primary key fingerprint: 696F 95F0 88E4
 D359 947F  7AEB 6F95 B499 6CA7 B5A6
 
 
 So, how I can fix these 2 errors:
 
 gpg: no signed data
 gpg: can't hash datafile: file open error

Apparently, you've told GPG where to find the signature, but not which
file to verify.

Let's start from the top. Firstly, you shouldn't need root permissions
for any of this. By changing to root, you'll be adding the key to root's
keyring not your own.

OK. Start by issuing  gpg --verify SHA256SUMS.sign SHA256SUMS. You get
some warnings and then Can't check signature: public key not found.
This is fine.

Next, gpg --recv-key --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net 6CA7B5A6. This
fetches a key matching the signing key's fingerprint from a server.
Again, do this as yourself so that it's in YOUR keyring.

Finally, gpg --verify SHA256SUMS.sign SHA256SUMS will verify the
signature. As you saw, you get Good Signature from  This means
that SHA256SUMS is identical in content to when it was signed; the file
has not been tampered with. However, as you don't trust the key you just
downloaded, you don't know who signed the file.

 
 gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified
 with a trusted signature! gpg:  There is no indication that the
 signature belongs to the owner.

To trust a key, the following algorithm is used (by default):
 1. You have signed the key
 2. The key has been signed by one fully trusted key
 3. The key has been signed by three marginally trusted keys.

This is known as the Web of Trust. You don't have to directly trust
every key you use, but you can rely on the fidelity of other users.

The easiest way to to this is, clearly, then, to sign the key you just
downloaded. To do this:
 1. Arrange a meeting with the owner of they key. Bring at least one
photo ID and a printed fingerprint of your own Key.
 2. Meet the key's owner face-to-face and, after verifying their
identity, exchange fingerprints.
 3. Sign their key.
 gpg --sign-key 6CA7B5A6
 4. Upload the key back to the keyserver (so that other people how trust
you can now trust that key)
gpg --send-keys --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net 6CA7B5A6

Now, re-verifying the signature should confirm that you trust the
signature.

(Alternatively, if meeting up with the owner of the key is difficult,
you may find members of your local LUG have already signed the key and
you can use the marginal trust noted above).


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Re: Question about APT's config on Debian (not an actual issue)

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 01:00:43AM +0100, Claudius Hubig wrote:
 Christofer C. Bell christofer.c.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm wondering how the following Ubuntu-isms made it into Debian's APT
 configuration:
 
 cbell@circe:~$ apt-config dump | egrep 'verse|ubuntu'
 APT::NeverAutoRemove:: ^linux-ubuntu-modules-.*;
 APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections:: universe/metapackages;
 APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections:: multiverse/metapackages;
 APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections:: universe/oldlibs;
 APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections:: multiverse/oldlibs;
 cbell@circe:~$
 
 Interesting.
 
 Are these really necessary?
 
 I can imagine that in case you have a Ubuntu repository or PPA in
 your sources.list, you might want to have these. This might be
 especially the case with the first line, as it is possible that a
 specific driver/module is only available from such sources.
 
 And is it worth filing a bug for their removal?
 
 Do you think these are harmful in any way? If so, how? And if they
 are harmful, does this ‘harm’ make up for the potential benefit they
 have for users either mixing Ubuntu and Debian or wanting to use one
 to install the other?

Ubuntu is not the *only* Debian derivative.

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Re: wheezy without gui

On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:06:26 +0100, abdelkader belahcene wrote:

(please, no html formatted messages, thanks)

 I tryed the testing cd (20 feb).
 The installation is done but no graphical interface no gnome, no gdm
 etc...
 
 I hope that for the final release, we  get the GUI (gnome ) in the first
 cd.

Usually you have to instruct the installer to install GNOME or additional 
packages. True is that is not very user-friendly (I also installed the 
first CD of wheezy recently and there as no additional screen asking for 
more packages). My guess is that you have to select use additional 
repos so you're enable to get additional patterns for the tasksel.

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Re: KDE Probleme - deutsche Kommunikation gesucht

2012-02-29 Thread Martin Steigerwald

Am Mittwoch, 29. Februar 2012 schrieb Manfred Rebentisch:
 Hallo Martin,
 
 Am 29.02.2012 11:27, schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
  Am Mittwoch, 29. Februar 2012 schrieb Manfred Rebentisch:
  Hallo,
  
  Hallo Manfred!
  
  dies hier ist ja die Debian-Liste. Als Debian-Nutzer (und neuerdings
  auch Kubuntu-User) habe ich auch viele Fragen zu KDE 4, die hier
  nicht
  hergehören. Gibt es ein deutsches Forum oder eine deutsche
  Mailingliste
  mit kompetenter Kommunikation? Welche Empfehlung habt ihr für mich?
  
  Hast Du Dir die offiziellen Anlaufstellen wie z.B. die Mailingliste
  kde-de
  angeschaut? Das Verwenden der Suchmaschine Deiner Wahl überlasse ich
  Dir.
 
 Naja, ich komme mir etwas blöd vor, diese Frage gestellt zu haben.
 Aber ich hatte die hier kompetenten Leser und Schreiber nach einer
 Meinung gefragt.

Hey, ist schon okay. Ich wollt nur wissen, ob Du Dir die offiziellen 
Angebote schon angeschaut hast. Und ich hab mir vorgenommen, mir nicht 
mehr die Arbeit mit $SUCHMASCHINE zu machen, wenn ich es für sehr leicht 
halte, die entsprechenden Stellen zu finden.

 Und letztlich hast Du recht: www.kde.de und die dort genannten Foren
 und Listen sind das, was ich suchte. Zufällig stieß ich immer auf die
 englischsprachigen Seiten und war etwas genervt.

Englischsprachig gibts halt noch debian-kde.

Und ich denke, KDE ist hier nicht unbedingt off topic. Debian bringt nunmal 
KDE und GNOME mit und ich denke mal, das Thema hier so einzuschränken, 
dass nur debian-spezifische Aspekte der in Debian paketierten Software on 
topic sind, engt den Themenkreis doch etwas arg ein. Manchmal ist ja nicht 
mal ganz klar, ob etwas ein debian-spezifisches Problem ist oder nicht.

Wir hatten hier durchaus schon KDE-Themen und ich finde das durchaus auch 
angemessen - auch da es ja kein debian-kde-de gibt ;). Wenn es halt echt 
spezifisch ist, sind KDE-Foren eventuell besser geeignet.

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Re: Networking problem on Shuttle XS35GTV2

On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:32:07 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:

 On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:44:05 +, Camaleón wrote:

 Mmm, if your problem is a missing kernel module (jme.ko), the file is
 located here:
 
 /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-686/kernel/drivers/net/jme.ko
 
 Which is available in the first of the CD sets and thus you should also
 have it on your system so I wonder what can be wrong here.
 
 I'm wondering too!
 
 It's really strange because I was using OpenELEC for some time and
 probably with an update it stopped working.
 
 Also I have installed Debian Squeeze before on this box and the network
 was working.
 
 With Windows it's still working so the hardware should be ok...

Check if the module is already loaded or just force a reload (modprobe 
jme) and check the output.

 A different issue would be that the current jme.ko driver (the one you
 already have installed) cannot detect your ethernet controller (in line
 with post #6 findings).
 
 If this is your case, an updated kernel from backports or fetching and
 compiling the latest driver version from JMicron (as stated in #6) may
 solve the issue.
 
 Yes, but for a noob like me it's hard to update the kernel without
 internet connection :-(

Maybe you can just grab the deb file from another computer and then 
perform a manual install with dpkg -i :-?

 But now you have an additional problem with the ISO image, that is not
 recognized :-)
 
 How does your /etc/apt/sources.list look like? Also, run mount and
 put here the ouput.
 
 I have played with sources.list and it contained only the cdrom image,
 nothing at all or the cdrom image and the security updates lines. I will
 post the exact listings tomorrow. I have to get up very early
 tomorrow...

Okay, it is important to use the right syntax for the CD to be properly 
recognized.

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Re: Postgresql-8.1 Removal Problems

On Wednesday 29 February 2012 14:01:03 debian-user-digest-
requ...@lists.debian.org wrote:
  It is still there.
  
  Manually stopping the daemon does not produce any error or output and the
  removal error remains.
 
 
 
 Maybe 'deborphan' could help; no harm in trying.

apt and deborphan are crippled by this error.

. Get error: update-rc.d: warning: postgresql-8.1 stop runlevel arguments (0 
1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (S 0 1 6)

I tried using update-rc.d to place the stop scripts in S 0 1 6. Simple enough.

However, the error is still flagged.


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Re: Postgresql-8.1 Removal Problems

On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:16:08 +0200, David Baron wrote:

 On Tuesday 28 February 2012 21:03:15 debian-user-digest-
 requ...@lists.debian.org wrote:
  Package apparently obselete, dependencies no longer installable.
  However, I cannot remove it.
 
 How did you remove it? apt-get, aptitude, dpkg, synaptic...
 apt-get / dpkg -r/ dpkg -P
 I do not use aptitude

And what's the full output for that commands?

You can also give aptitude a chance, sometimes it renders very useful 
when dealing with broken packages or conflictive situations. At least it 
uses to be more verbose.

  Get error: update-rc.d: warning: postgresql-8.1 stop runlevel
  arguments (0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (S 0 1 6)
 
 
  
  How do I get rid of it.
 
 (...)
 
 Despite the above error which I've also seen when you
 stop/restart/remove may of the init scripts, is the package still
 installed?
 
 dpkg -l | grep postgre
 
 It is still there.

Better if you can send the output for the commands you run.

 Manually stopping the daemon does not produce any error or output and
 the removal error remains.

Manually stopping or starting the daemon returns the expected behaviour? 
I mean, is the daemon stopped/started accordingly?

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Re: Open bug in Kino

On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 08:22:43 +0100, Friedhelm Mehnert wrote:

 There is a long standing bug in the version of Kino which shipes with
 Debian Squeeze.
 
 Kino seg faults and dies when creating video segment in FX tab Bug
 #567588. It was reported first in 2010. And google is full of complaints
 from frustated users who have upgraded from lenny (where it was working
 fine) to sqeeze.

Sadly that's the norm for stable and time based releases, not just 
Debian ;-(

 I have found out what the problem is. It's very simple. The binary i386
 deb version 1.3.4-1+b1 that is distributed with sqeeze is broken.
 
 The source packet is ok!!
 
 So the problem can be fixed by getting the source and rebuild the
 packet.

For that same reason is so important watching for bugs before a 
distribution is released.
 
 I have filed two bug reports AND emailed the maintainer about the issue,
 but that guy must to be dead, since I haven't heard a single word from
 him.

It seems to be activity at least for the package, you can ask another 
people of the team to do the rebuild and triy to get an update:

http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/k/kino/current/changelog

 So I have put an inofficial deb online, if you're to lazy to build it
 yourself from source, just get the packet and intall it over the broken
 version. It's at www.friedhelms.net/debian/kino .

Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Audiobooks

2012-02-29 Thread lina

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Julien Claassen jul...@mail.upb.de wrote:
 Lina!
  Does youtube support upload in aa-format?

Here I need apologize. I have never met the aa-format.

Last time I saw this post, just that thought came to my mind. so I
just posted it and thought the OP can get another options to try.

  This would be cool, since you might use youtube-dl (a python script) to
 download it again and then you can use mplayer to transcode it:
 mplayer -vo null -vc null -ao pcm:file=my_name.wav
If I remember correctly, you once told me this command on one of the
questions I asked months ago,
 youtube.whatever_video_format
  then you could easily convert it to mp3 or ogg.
  Warm regards
Thanks,

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Re: How to direct output into the LibreOffice Calc

2012-02-29 Thread lina

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:06:48PM +0800, lina wrote:
 Hi,

 I wonder:

 1]

 can the output like:

 5
 3
 1
 5
 3

 direct it into the LibreOffice directly. without copy and paste.

 Directly, no. However, LibreOffice has an extensive API[1]. In theory,
 you could create a script (there is a python example) that accepts
 input, starts LibreOffice and then pastes the lines into cells (I'm
Thanks, the python example is far more complicate than I could
simply copy from terminal, open the Excel and paste.
 assuming you want the numbers in a spreadsheet). If you have ever
 programmed Excel, LibreOffice shouldn't present much of a learning
I don't have much experience in programming in Excel, only know some
very basic functions.
 curve.

 [1] http://api.libreoffice.org/

Thanks again for your time,

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Re: XKBOPTIONS:ctrl:nocaps is not working with console-cyrillic

On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 05:31:19 +0300, Stayvoid wrote:

 I have no idea how to make it work.
 ctrl:nocaps works fine if console-cyrillic is disabled. Maybe
 console-cyrillic blocks /etc/default/keyboard...

Does it work when you're on a tty?

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Re: CUPS and Brother HL-5340D dual whammy

2012-02-29 Thread Brian

On Tue 28 Feb 2012 at 12:05:08 -1000, Joel Roth wrote:

 After a recent sid dist-upgrade, I'm having problems
 printing.
 
 The CUPS test page prints a border with this text only:
 
 Brother HL-5340D Series
 3010.106 5
 -88807824
 
 That is using the 5240 driver. 
 
 I tried a couple other Brother HL-* drivers, but no success.

There are also drivers in Generic you could try.

 Now, I've got a PPD file for HL-5340D, but when I try to select
 it I get this error:
 
 unable to copy interface script: no such file or directory
 
 Any ideas what I can do with this?

It might be particular to the ppd you have. Tell CUPS to use one in
/usr/share/ppd. Still the same error?.

Creating /etc/cups/interfaces might be a way round the issue.


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Re: [Feedback needed] Setting the right size for /tmp

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 08:59:38AM +, Dom wrote:
 I think it would have been nice to have a warning of this change of
 behaviour. I have apt-listchanges installed and I'm sure it didn't
 notify me of any changes.

True, but there was a discussion on debian-devel titled:

  /tmp as tmpfs and consequence for imaging software

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/11/threads.html#00501

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Re: Open bug in Kino


The situation you are describing can be solved by a binNMU (Binary
Non-Maintainer Upload). There's a description of the process here:
http://wiki.debian.org/binNMU

If you have the time to invest, it would be great if you could see
that process through.

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Re: [Feedback needed] Setting the right size for /tmp

On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 02:54:30AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 08:59:38AM +, Dom wrote:
  I think it would have been nice to have a warning of this change of
  behaviour. I have apt-listchanges installed and I'm sure it didn't
  notify me of any changes.
 
 True, but there was a discussion on debian-devel titled:
 
   /tmp as tmpfs and consequence for imaging software
 
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/11/threads.html#00501

Agh!!! sorry, should read whole thread first before replying.

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Re: KDE Probleme - deutsche Kommunikation gesucht

2012-02-29 Thread Martin Steigerwald

Am Mittwoch, 29. Februar 2012 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
 Am Mittwoch, 29. Februar 2012 schrieb Manfred Rebentisch:
  Hallo Martin,
  
  Am 29.02.2012 11:27, schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
   Am Mittwoch, 29. Februar 2012 schrieb Manfred Rebentisch:
   Hallo,
   
   Hallo Manfred!
   
   dies hier ist ja die Debian-Liste. Als Debian-Nutzer (und

Doh!

Please disregard this. It was meant to go to debian-user-german.

I answered to a mail with reply-to set and used the wrong alternative from 
the auto-completion.

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Re: CUPS and Brother HL-5340D dual whammy

On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 12:05:08 -1000, Joel Roth wrote:

 After a recent sid dist-upgrade, I'm having problems printing.
 
 The CUPS test page prints a border with this text only:
 
 Brother HL-5340D Series
 3010.106 5
 -88807824
 
 That is using the 5240 driver.

If the printer also supports PCL5/6, you can also try with the generic 
driver.
 
 I tried a couple other Brother HL-* drivers, but no success.
 
 Now, I've got a PPD file for HL-5340D, 

You got it from here, right?

http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#HL-5340D

 but when I try to select it I get this error:
 
 unable to copy interface script: no such file or directory

 Any ideas what I can do with this?

You can try to install the PPD by following Brother instructions (step 4), 
that is, manually, and then proceed as usual:

Install a ppd file
http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/instruction_prn1c.html

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Re: Audiobooks

2012-02-29 Thread Lisi

On Tuesday 28 February 2012 23:45:18 Julien Claassen wrote:
 If
 you are looking for a nice collection of free and copyleft ones have a look
 at http://librivox.org

Thanks, Julien. :-)  I have added this to my audiobook bookmarks.

Lisi


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Re: Networking problem on Shuttle XS35GTV2

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:32:44PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 
 Okay, it is important to use the right syntax for the CD to be properly 
 recognized.

You should never try and manually enter the CDROM into your
sources.list, always use apt-cdrom. Although, the installer usually
handles that for you.

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Re: How to direct output into the LibreOffice Calc

2012-02-29 Thread Christopher Judd

On Wednesday 29 February 2012 08:40:12 lina wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk 
wrote:
  On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:06:48PM +0800, lina wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I wonder:
  
  1]
  
  can the output like:
  
  5
  3
  1
  5
  3
  
  direct it into the LibreOffice directly. without copy and paste.
  
  Directly, no. However, LibreOffice has an extensive API[1]. In theory,
  you could create a script (there is a python example) that accepts
  input, starts LibreOffice and then pastes the lines into cells (I'm
 

Actually (Ijust figured out), you can do something like:

somescript tempfile ; localc --calc -o tempfile ; rm tempfile

without learning to use the API.

-Chris


 Thanks, the python example is far more complicate than I could
 simply copy from terminal, open the Excel and paste.
 
  assuming you want the numbers in a spreadsheet). If you have ever
  programmed Excel, LibreOffice shouldn't present much of a learning
 
 I don't have much experience in programming in Excel, only know some
 very basic functions.
 
  curve.
  
  [1] http://api.libreoffice.org/
 
 Thanks again for your time,
 
 Best regards,
 
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Re: Audiobooks

On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 23:14:28 +, Sian Mountbatten wrote:

 I received a DVD from Amazon which came with a slip of paper saying
 Download 1 FREE AUDIOBOOK
 I went to the site, signed up for 30 days free membership, selected a
 book and downloaded two files of type .aa. I noticed that the only
 software available was for Windoze or MacOS. So is there a package which
 will play an audiobook. A search with apt-cache gives yatm, but, after
 installing it, I tried it one of the files and it merely produced
 horrible sounds. Certainly nothing intelligible.
 
 So are audiobooks only for Windoze or MacOS? Has anybody any
 suggestions?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audible.com

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Re: How to direct output into the LibreOffice Calc

2012-02-29 Thread lina

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Christopher Judd j...@wadsworth.org wrote:
 On Wednesday 29 February 2012 08:40:12 lina wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk
 wrote:

  On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:06:48PM +0800, lina wrote:

  Hi,

 

  I wonder:

 

  1]

 

  can the output like:

 

  5

  3

  1

  5

  3

 

  direct it into the LibreOffice directly. without copy and paste.

 

  Directly, no. However, LibreOffice has an extensive API[1]. In theory,

  you could create a script (there is a python example) that accepts

  input, starts LibreOffice and then pastes the lines into cells (I'm




 Actually (Ijust figured out), you can do something like:


 somescript tempfile ; localc --calc -o tempfile ; rm tempfile

Thanks, a bit impressed by the localc --calc

If someone has interest, really welcome refine below commands

just tried to calculate the occurance. of those numbers,

(I don't have much CS background except 11 years ago took one course,
seems fundamental knowledge of computer and one semester of C
language. I finished that C without writing a serious program. sorry I
am a bit interested how people think in solving problems, just please
feel free to comment.)

$ more pathway_data.txt | sed 's/[^0-9 ]//g' | tr   \n | sed
'/^$/d' | sort | uniq -c  | sed -re 's/^ +//g' | sort -n -r  tempfile
; localc --calc -o tempfile ; rm tempfile

$ head pathway_data.txt
[['5', '4', '5'], ['19', '5', '4', '5']]
[['47', '46', '47']]
[['76', '46', '76'], ['76', '34', '76', '34'], ['62', '60', '62', '60', '46']]
[]
[['76', '46', '76'], ['46', '48', '46', '34']]
[['46', '44', '46']]
[['19', '39', '19'], ['19', '5', '4', '5']]
[]

Since thanks for all the help and suggestions,

Best regards,


 without learning to use the API.


 -Chris



 Thanks, the python example is far more complicate than I could

 simply copy from terminal, open the Excel and paste.



  assuming you want the numbers in a spreadsheet). If you have ever

  programmed Excel, LibreOffice shouldn't present much of a learning



 I don't have much experience in programming in Excel, only know some

 very basic functions.



  curve.

 

  [1] http://api.libreoffice.org/



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Re: when an xterm starts, it always starts in ~/Documents

2012-02-29 Thread Rares Aioanei


On 02/26/2012 10:53 PM, Sian Mountbatten wrote:

On 26/02/12 17:30, Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 01:59:16 +, Sian Mountbatten wrote:

Whenever I start an xterm, I notice that it starts in ~/Documents 
rather

than in the home directory. Why is that? Where is it set?

And can it be set to the HOME directory?


System Settings - Account Details - Paths - change Documents Path 
to $HOME (the absolute address, like /home/user/)



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Re: Free movies on the Internet -- download scams [OT]

2012-02-29 Thread Curt

On 2012-02-29, nepal nepal.ro...@mypostoffice.co.uk wrote:

 well I didn't ask for your moral guidance did I?

Giving advice is a safe activity, seeing that hardly anyone ever takes
it.

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Re: Postgresql-8.1 Removal Problems

On Wednesday 29 February 2012 16:50:26 debian-user-digest-
requ...@lists.debian.org wrote:
   Package apparently obselete, dependencies no longer installable.
   However, I cannot remove it.
 
  
 
  How did you remove it? apt-get, aptitude, dpkg, synaptic...
  
  apt-get / dpkg -r/ dpkg -P
  I do not use aptitude
 
 And what's the full output for that commands?
~$ sudo dpkg -P postgresql-8.1
(Reading database ... 546325 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing postgresql-8.1 ...
find: `/usr/share/postgresql/8.1/tsearch_data': No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing postgresql-8.1 (--purge):
 subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
update-rc.d: warning: postgresql-8.1 stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not 
match LSB Default-Stop values (S 0 1 6)
Errors were encountered while processing:
 postgresql-8.1

Note that the find: error is new.
I have the init.d script doing nothing. The daemon is not running.

 
 You can also give aptitude a chance, sometimes it renders very useful 
 when dealing with broken packages or conflictive situations. At least it 
 uses to be more verbose.

Also show error, no so verbose in its UI.


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Re: NFS trouble

2012-02-29 Thread Tom H

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:44 AM, Raffaele Morelli
raffaele.more...@gmail.com wrote:
 2012/2/27 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com


  You have to use static ports for statd, mountd, and lockd if you're
  not using nfsv4. (You don't have to use the same static assignments
  used below.)
 
  - Set
  STATDOPTS=--port 4003 --outgoing-port 4004
  in /etc/default/nfs-common
 
  - Set
  RPCMOUNTDOPTS=-p 4002
  in /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server
 
  - Set
  options lockd nlm_udpport=4001 nlm_tcpport=4001
  in /etc/modprobe.d/lockd.conf
 
  - Open the relevant ports with iptables
 
  Ok, so I guess I should ask my net admin to open all relevant ports for
  mountd, nlockmgr and status as showed in `rpcinfo -p` OR whatever port I
  would like to use for STATDOPTS, RPCMOUNTDOPTS and lockd.
  Is it right?

 Yes, but you have to fix the port numbers by editing the files above
 because they'll be variable otherwise.

 That did it, thank you.

You're welcome.


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Re: Audiobooks


Hi Lina!
  Could be, that I gave you the same youtube or mplayer advise, because to me 
it has always been a sane and helpful one. :-)

  Kind regards
  Julien

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/etc/alternatives contains files

2012-02-29 Thread Bob Brewer

Hi

Some packages failed to upgrade in my lenny to squeeze update because 
updare-alternatives encountered a file rather than a symbolic link. An 
example of this was fakeroot which produced the error:

update-alternatives: error: readlink(/etc/alternatives/fakeroot) 
failed: Invalid argument

The file (/etc/alternatives/fakeroot) contains a shell script which has 
the comment:

# This script first starts faked (the daemon), and then it will run
# the requested program with fake root privileges.

After I moved this file out of the way I was able to upgrade the package 
fakeroot and new symbolic links were generated.

There are over 100 of these files in the /etc/alternatives directory all 
dating from the same date in 2008 and presumably left over from a 
previous upgrade.

Would it be safe to delete these files and run update-alternatives to 
generate new symbolic links.


Bob




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[OT] Oddities in network information

2012-02-29 Thread Brad Alexander

Hey,

I have a number of Debian boxes connected into a Foundry FastIron II
switch. This switch has a bunch of 100BaseT ports and 8 1000BaseT
ports. I have several servers with GigE NICs plugged into the gig
ports on the switch, but when I look at mii-tool, it shows:

# mii-tool
eth0: negotiated flow-control, link ok

However, hosts plugged into the 100BaseT ports show

# mii-tool
eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD flow-control, link ok

The reason for my concern is that I just changed my backuppc box. The
old box had 100BaseT interfaces, a P4 processor, and 2G of RAM. The
new box has Gig interfaces, a dual-core Xeon, and 8G of RAM. I have
been checking backup speeds, and they are not significantly different.
On a representative host (I have been spot-checking), a full backup
took about 10 minutes. On the new hardware, backups are taking about 8
minutes. I'm not a network engineer, but using a transport that is a
full order of magnitude faster *should* give more than a 20% decrease
in backup times...Am I wrong here? I guess the Gig-E mii-tool saying
negotiated rather than saying 1000BaseT or something just adds to my
concerns.

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Re: Postgresql-8.1 Removal Problems

On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 17:54:10 +0200, David Baron wrote:

  How did you remove it? apt-get, aptitude, dpkg, synaptic...
  
  apt-get / dpkg -r/ dpkg -P
  I do not use aptitude
 
 And what's the full output for that commands?
 ~$ sudo dpkg -P postgresql-8.1
 (Reading database ... 546325 files and directories currently installed.)
 Removing postgresql-8.1 ...
 find: `/usr/share/postgresql/8.1/tsearch_data': No such file or
 directory dpkg: error processing postgresql-8.1 (--purge):
  subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
 update-rc.d: warning: postgresql-8.1 stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do
 not match LSB Default-Stop values (S 0 1 6) Errors were encountered
 while processing:
  postgresql-8.1
 
 Note that the find: error is new.

It seems the post-script routine is in a very bad shape. Have you tried 
by appending --force-remove-reinstreq?

***
remove-reinstreq:  Remove  a  package, even if it’s broken and
marked to require reinstallation. This may, for example, cause
parts  of the package to remain on the system, which will then
be forgotten by dpkg.
***

So, dpkg -P --force-remove-reinstreq postgresql-8.1.

 I have the init.d script doing nothing. The daemon is not running.

You can be also hitting this issue:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=565966

A quick Google search finds many problems for postgresql removing/
upgrading scripts.

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Re: ext browsers


Hello Keith and Johann!
  Links2 in the current version no longer supports javascript. As far as I 
remember, they removed it due to neglected maintenance or they wanted to 
change something, which never came of. It was some sort of development reason. 
Older version do handle a bit of javascript though. That is older versins of 
links2 not the links 1.x branch.

  Best wishes
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Re: text browsers


Hi Weaver!
  I have tried lynx, links, links2, elinks and w3m. I work with those 
exclusively. I still mostly stick by lynx, but that is just laziness, since it 
really doesn't do a few things.
  I have found, that from the above collection elinks is the best. It can be 
customised to meet almost all your needs. I don't get it to play 
youtube-videos (as audio) directly yet and I suppose, that might be out of the 
question.
  These browsers are all rather comfortable, once you get to know them and 
they all have a lot of similarities, which is good, as consistency always is. 
I have only heard about edbrowse, but I think it is really the best solution, 
if you think, you might encounter a lot of NECESSARY javascript. Necessary 
opposd to beautifying or slightly helpful javascript.

  Kind regards
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Re: Open bug in Kino

2012-02-29 Thread Friedhelm Mehnert

In article izrs5-4w...@gated-at.bofh.it you wrote:
 
 It seems to be activity at least for the package, you can ask another 
 people of the team to do the rebuild and triy to get an update:
 
 http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/k/kino/current/changelog
 

Meanwhile I have heard from the maintainer. Hope it will be taken care
of the bug soon. :-)

Regards Friedhelm



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not in X. man command does not respect set bell-style visible

2012-02-29 Thread Mitchell Laks

Dear Gurus,

I like silence. 

While running a tty console 
(no X running)
I include in .inputrc
the line 
set bell-style visible

this is clearly respected by say the 
tab command on an empty line (no beep, just a flash)
however 
when i do 
man anything
say man bash
and then reach the end of the buffer and then space bar through the buffer
then hitting space at the  end of the buffer gives me a beep

how to get rid of this?

thanks 
Mitchell


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Re: [Ubuntu-hams] Contest logging project

2012-02-29 Thread Paula Keezer

Nate,  I thought I would share some thoughts with you on the logistics of 
building a logging program, contest or or otherwise.  

As the author of the very first windows based logging program back in 1989 
(logview, rigview, hamview and packview) I can tell you that developing and 
keeping a logging program alive is a daunting task.  I was able to maintain it 
until 1997 when y2k became an issue and the amount of effort for one individual 
to keep up with the changing demands of the community was simply to much.  It 
was written in C and was one of the better offerings for both general logging 
and contest logging for its time.  


Over the years I've looked at a number of contemporary programs that are 
feature rich to see if I could contribute and provide some of my expertise 
gained with 8 years of log program experience.  Unfortunately, they all use 
rather difficult or under powered development environments.  N1MM for instance, 
is a dedicated Win platform and to work on that code one would have to make a 
heavy investment in the latest win dev platform.

I've thought at length about how an open source solution might be constructed 
that could attract a large number of Hamix developers.  As Martin, AA6E pointed 
out, it would be very important to split the effort into two projects:  A 
frontend project and a backend project.  Ideally, the frontend project would 
welcome anyone who wished to make a logging/shackcontrol/cluster user interface 
to participate using the language/development and perhaps even computing 
platform of their choice.  The backend for logging/dxcc/prefix/callpartial 
databases, rigcontrol/rotatorcontrol/antennaswitch and 
cluster/telnet/packet/web should be in the form of services, preferably 
communicated  through tcpip sockets or even better, a web api.  Ideally this 
code should be fast, but if a standard socket or web api were used, it could be 
built in virtually any language and on top of any db platform and still be 
compatible.

I think an open source effort like this, where new comers can easily 
participate and add value to a growing body of code, would be an long term 
winner.

I think the challenge is in defining the back end services so that all the 
features and functions could be easily extended while preserving backward 
compatibility and keeping it open so new developers can step in and fill in 
gags as time moves forward.
The front end becomes an open field where anyone with a little programming 
knowledge and access to open source tools can build a new look and feel for the 
community.

Just my .02!

Paula, NX1P






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Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:25 PM
Subject: [Ubuntu-hams] Contest logging project
 
Hi all.

I've starting hacking on a contest logger.  I am writing it in C++ and
wxWidgets and primarily targeting Linux at this time.  I've been working
on this on and off for about six weeks and have reached a point where I
am running up against my inexperience in both C++ and application
development.

I am looking for whomever may be interested in helping to develop this
thing into something that actually works!  I am looking specifically for
persons with knowledge of C++ and wxWidgets and who are interested in a
contest logger with a logging UI based on the classic CT.

My motivation is to be able to use the UI I and many others are
comfortable with.  TR and N1MM's ESM UI are just not comfortable to me.
Beyond that requirement the only other requirement is data integrity
using some sort of database container.

At this point the program is nothing more than a few windows that are a
sort of prototype of where I want to go.  The program does not accept
nor store data at this time and such niceties as duping and country
verification are far off as is rig control, et. al.

Given sufficient interest in the project I will push it up to Github and
look into starting a development mailing list.  At this time it is not
useful so potential users will be disappointed.

Please reply to me direct if interested.

73, de Nate, NØNB 

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Re: [OT] Oddities in network information

On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:19:30 -0500, Brad Alexander wrote:

 I have a number of Debian boxes connected into a Foundry FastIron II
 switch. This switch has a bunch of 100BaseT ports and 8 1000BaseT ports.
 I have several servers with GigE NICs plugged into the gig ports on the
 switch, but when I look at mii-tool, it shows:
 
 # mii-tool
 eth0: negotiated flow-control, link ok
 
 However, hosts plugged into the 100BaseT ports show
 
 # mii-tool
 eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD flow-control, link ok

Compare the results of mii-tool with those from ethtool, IIRC the 
former is a bit outdated.

Anyway, here's my output:

stt008:~# mii-tool -v eth0
SIOCGMIIREG on eth0 failed: Input/output error
SIOCGMIIREG on eth0 failed: Input/output error
eth0: negotiated 1000baseT-FD flow-control, link ok
  product info: vendor 00:aa:00, model 57 rev 0
  basic mode:   autonegotiation enabled
  basic status: autonegotiation complete, link ok
  capabilities: 1000baseT-FD 100baseTx-FD 100baseTx-HD 10baseT-FD 10baseT-HD
  advertising:  1000baseT-HD 1000baseT-FD 100baseTx-FD 100baseTx-HD 10baseT-FD 
10baseT-HD flow-control
  link partner: 1000baseT-FD 100baseTx-FD 100baseTx-HD 10baseT-FD 10baseT-HD 
flow-control

 The reason for my concern is that I just changed my backuppc box. The
 old box had 100BaseT interfaces, a P4 processor, and 2G of RAM. The new
 box has Gig interfaces, a dual-core Xeon, and 8G of RAM. I have been
 checking backup speeds, and they are not significantly different. On a
 representative host (I have been spot-checking), a full backup took
 about 10 minutes. On the new hardware, backups are taking about 8
 minutes. I'm not a network engineer, but using a transport that is a
 full order of magnitude faster *should* give more than a 20% decrease in
 backup times...Am I wrong here? I guess the Gig-E mii-tool saying
 negotiated rather than saying 1000BaseT or something just adds to my
 concerns.

Gigabit is not as fast as we think (with 125 MB/s of max. theorical speed 
and can be a real pain when transferring a bunch of gibibytes of data). Also, 
the physical transport layer is just another variable of the chain... well, 
ensure your card settings are properly set and detected (dmesg|grep -i eth 
will help).

Greetings,

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Re: /etc/alternatives contains files

2012-02-29 Thread Sven Joachim

On 2012-02-29 17:26 +0100, Bob Brewer wrote:

Some packages failed to upgrade in my lenny to squeeze update because
updare-alternatives encountered a file rather than a symbolic link. An
example of this was fakeroot which produced the error:

update-alternatives: error: readlink(/etc/alternatives/fakeroot)
failed: Invalid argument

This is not a particular useful error message, but it seems to have been
fixed in the wheezy dpkg¹.

The file (/etc/alternatives/fakeroot) contains a shell script which has
the comment:

# This script first starts faked (the daemon), and then it will run
# the requested program with fake root privileges.

After I moved this file out of the way I was able to upgrade the package
fakeroot and new symbolic links were generated.

There are over 100 of these files in the /etc/alternatives directory all
dating from the same date in 2008 and presumably left over from a
previous upgrade.

That was not supposed to happen, but it is probably too late to find out
the reason for the problem.

Would it be safe to delete these files and run update-alternatives to
generate new symbolic links.

This is probably your best choice. Make backups of the
/etc/alternatives and /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives directories before you
do that, though.

Sven

¹
http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=dpkg/dpkg.git;a=commit;h=c922a8f681dc27135947ebdaff68fc3158614807

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Re: not in X. man command does not respect set bell-style visible

2012-02-29 Thread Sven Joachim

On 2012-02-29 18:29 +0100, Mitchell Laks wrote:

 I like silence. 

 While running a tty console 
 (no X running)
 I include in .inputrc
 the line 
 set bell-style visible

 this is clearly respected by say the 
 tab command on an empty line (no beep, just a flash)
 however 
 when i do 
 man anything
 say man bash
 and then reach the end of the buffer and then space bar through the buffer
 then hitting space at the  end of the buffer gives me a beep

This is because .inputrc is only honored by programs that use readline,
and the standard pager does not use that.

 how to get rid of this?

Make sure that less (the standard pager) is invoked with the -q
option.  E.g. set PAGER=/usr/bin/less -q in the environment.

Sven


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Re: not in X. man command does not respect set bell-style visible

On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:29:29 -0500, Mitchell Laks wrote:

 Dear Gurus,

Not a guru here, but will try to earn some points, tron.

 I like silence.

+100 :-)
 
 While running a tty console
 (no X running)
 I include in .inputrc
 the line
 set bell-style visible
 
 this is clearly respected by say the
 tab command on an empty line (no beep, just a flash) however
 when i do
 man anything
 say man bash
 and then reach the end of the buffer and then space bar through the
 buffer then hitting space at the  end of the buffer gives me a beep
 
 how to get rid of this?

Try a quick test by issuing setterm -blength 0. 

Should that works, you can add it to your ~/.profile file.

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