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Re: Petit script

2012-05-31 Thread Nahliel Steinberg
Le 30/05/12 at  16:48, Yves Rutschle a ecrit:
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 04:34:52PM +0200, Nahliel Steinberg wrote:
 C'est quoi respawn ?

man inittab(5): c'est une façon de relancer automatiquement
des services.


Merci à vous, je regarde ces pistes

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Re: Petit script

2012-05-31 Thread Denis Mugnier

Le 30/05/2012 17:17, Stephane Chazelas a écrit :

2012-05-30 16:51:01 +0200, Denis Mugnier:

dans le fichier inittab, en précisant respawn, le processus sera
redémarré à chaque fois qu'il s'arrêtera.

voir man inittab pour plus de précisions.

[...]

Le problem avec inittab, et la raison pour laquelle on ne trouve
plus de demarrage de service (a part getty) dans ce fichier est
que ca ne gere pas les dependances (tous les services sont
demarrés en meme temps des qu'on rentre dans le runlevel).

La solution est d'utiliser un autre init qui gere tout ca un peu
mieux (systemd, upstart...) ou d'utiliser une commande qui
monitore le service et le relance si besoin est.

J'ai répondu rapidement sur ce qu'était le respawn.

Je pense qu'une commande pour monitorer est une meilleure solution car 
elle pourra tuer le processus s'il est planté (à condition de pouvoir le 
détecter ;o) ), ce que ne va pas faire respawn ou les autres solutions 
de init.


Mais n'en sachant pas plus sur le processus, impossible de se prononcer 
sur la meilleure solution.


Denis

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Re: Interprétation log de iptable

2012-05-31 Thread Vincent Danjean
Le 07/05/2012 12:01, Dominique Asselineau a écrit :
 Je vais regarder un peu plus ces problèmes de iptable.  Ça n'est
 décidément pas facile de protéger son système et de laisser les
 services fonctionner correctement, surtout dans des situations
 particulières.

Il y a plein d'outils pour configurer plus facilement iptable, sauf
à avoir des besoins très particuliers.
Pour ma part, j'utilise shorewall (qui a l'avantage de proposer aussi
shorewall6 pour l'IPv6 / ip6table)

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demande d'aide

2012-05-31 Thread zakaria dia
Bonjour Mr je me presente je suis un informaticien Mauritanien travaillaint 
dans une societé en Mauritanie.mais je m'anipule beaucoup mieux windows que 
lunix desolé .mais j'aimerai que vous m'aidiez un peu si c'es possible en 
linux. j'ai un serveur de web qui est sous unix plus precisement sous Debian 
GNU /Linux5.0 et j'ai un antivirus Clam Antivirus mais qui n'est plus a jour 
parceque je n'arrive plus a ouvrir mon  site, on met dit toujour infection 
Iframe-inf .j'aimerais vous demander qu'elle est la commande qu'il faut faire 
pour mettre a jour mon antivirus sous debian
Merci d'avance

Re: demande d'aide

2012-05-31 Thread Klaus Becker
Le jeudi 31 mai 2012 13:08:24, zakaria dia a écrit :
 Bonjour Mr je me presente je suis un informaticien Mauritanien travaillaint 
 dans une societé en Mauritanie.mais je m'anipule beaucoup mieux windows que 
 lunix desolé .mais j'aimerai que vous m'aidiez un peu si c'es possible en 
 linux. j'ai un serveur de web qui est sous unix plus precisement sous Debian 
 GNU /Linux5.0 et j'ai un antivirus Clam Antivirus mais qui n'est plus a jour 
 parceque je n'arrive plus a ouvrir mon  site, on met dit toujour infection 
 Iframe-inf .j'aimerais vous demander qu'elle est la commande qu'il faut 
 faire pour mettre a jour mon antivirus sous debian
 Merci d'avance


Bonjour,

avec

# apt-get updatepuis

# apt-get upgrade   et éventuellement

# apt-get full-upgrade

vous mettez à jour votre système complet, et ça devrait aussi actualiser votre 
antivirus.


Pour n'actualiser que l'antivirus :

# apt-get updatepuis

# apt-get install nom-de-l'antivirus.


Tout cela en tant que root bien sûr.



Une excellente formation Debian se trouve à

http://formation-debian.via.ecp.fr


librement

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Re: demande d'aide

2012-05-31 Thread Florian Blanc
Bonjour,
un peu de recherche ne fait pas de mal :
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=clamav+database+update+debian+lenny
en premier tu as quelque chose qui à l'air pas trop mal :
http://www.faqforge.com/linux/how-to-solve-the-clamav-error-this-version-of-the-clamav-engine-is-outdated-on-debian-5-0-lenny/
et pour finir tu as la command freshclam pour mettre à jour la base
seulement.
Cordialement

Le 31 mai 2012 14:07, Klaus Becker colon...@free.fr a écrit :

 Le jeudi 31 mai 2012 13:08:24, zakaria dia a écrit :
  Bonjour Mr je me presente je suis un informaticien Mauritanien
 travaillaint dans une societé en Mauritanie.mais je m'anipule beaucoup
 mieux windows que lunix desolé .mais j'aimerai que vous m'aidiez un peu si
 c'es possible en linux. j'ai un serveur de web qui est sous unix plus
 precisement sous Debian GNU /Linux5.0 et j'ai un antivirus Clam Antivirus
 mais qui n'est plus a jour parceque je n'arrive plus a ouvrir mon  site, on
 met dit toujour infection Iframe-inf .j'aimerais vous demander qu'elle
 est la commande qu'il faut faire pour mettre a jour mon antivirus sous
 debian
  Merci d'avance


 Bonjour,

 avec

 # apt-get updatepuis

 # apt-get upgrade   et éventuellement

 # apt-get full-upgrade

 vous mettez à jour votre système complet, et ça devrait aussi actualiser
 votre antivirus.


 Pour n'actualiser que l'antivirus :

 # apt-get updatepuis

 # apt-get install nom-de-l'antivirus.


 Tout cela en tant que root bien sûr.



 Une excellente formation Debian se trouve à

 http://formation-debian.via.ecp.fr


 librement

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Re: demande d'aide

2012-05-31 Thread bruno.deb...@cyberoso.com
Le Thu, 31 May 2012 12:08:24 +0100 (BST),
zakaria dia zakaria...@yahoo.fr a écrit :

 Bonjour Mr je me presente je suis un informaticien Mauritanien
 travaillaint dans une societé en Mauritanie.mais je m'anipule
 beaucoup mieux windows que lunix desolé .mais j'aimerai que vous
 m'aidiez un peu si c'es possible en linux. j'ai un serveur de web qui
 est sous unix plus precisement sous Debian GNU /Linux5.0 et j'ai un
 antivirus Clam Antivirus mais qui n'est plus a jour parceque je
 n'arrive plus a ouvrir mon  site, on met dit toujour infection
 Iframe-inf .j'aimerais vous demander qu'elle est la commande qu'il
 faut faire pour mettre a jour mon antivirus sous debian Merci d'avance


Bonjour,

Le problème ne vient pas de clamav. De toutes façon, clamav ne fait que
de la détection. Il ne fait aucune action de nettoyage.
Et le problème vient du fait que votre site s'est fait hacker. Un
pirate a réussi à mettre du code à lui dans votre site. Vous devez
vérifier les fichiers de votre site et corriger la faille par laquelle
il a pu déposer ses fichiers dans votre site.

Bon courage,

Bruno

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Re: impression pdf sur imprimante laser brother hl 2240d

2012-05-31 Thread jean-pierregiraud

Le 30/05/2012 16:59, jean-pierregiraud a écrit :

Bonjour,

aujourd'hui, après une mise à jour de Debian Wheezy, j'ai constaté que 
l'impression des PDF sur une imprimante laser brother HL-2240D (avec 
evince par exemple), avec cups comme gestionnaire d'impression ne 
fonctionnait plus : message d'erreur


//usr/lib/cups/filter/pdftops failed
/

/(version de cups :/ 1.5.2-5)

J'ai tenté de passer à la version 1.5.3-1 présente sur sid mais cela 
ne marche pas mieux.


L'impression fonctionne par contre avec une imprimante jet d'encre 
canon MG5200


Jipege


Je me réponds à moi-même...

Une mise à jour plus tard, tout semble rentrer dans l'ordre

Quel paquet en jeu ? mystère...

jipege

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Re: Petit script

2012-05-31 Thread Guillaume Caron
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 04:17:04PM +0100, Stephane Chazelas wrote:
 2012-05-30 16:51:01 +0200, Denis Mugnier:
  dans le fichier inittab, en précisant respawn, le processus sera
  redémarré à chaque fois qu'il s'arrêtera.
  
  voir man inittab pour plus de précisions.
 [...]
 
 Le problem avec inittab, et la raison pour laquelle on ne trouve
 plus de demarrage de service (a part getty) dans ce fichier est
 que ca ne gere pas les dependances (tous les services sont
 demarrés en meme temps des qu'on rentre dans le runlevel).
 
 La solution est d'utiliser un autre init qui gere tout ca un peu
 mieux (systemd, upstart...) ou d'utiliser une commande qui
 monitore le service et le relance si besoin est.
 

C'est overkill mais je trouve qu'Heartbeat répond assez bien à la question. Il 
suffit d'un script init pour son processus et il peut être pris en charge.

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Re: Petit script

2012-05-31 Thread Bzzz
On Thu, 31 May 2012 16:10:56 +0200
Guillaume Caron guillaume.caron.h...@orange.fr wrote:

 
 C'est overkill mais je trouve qu'Heartbeat répond assez bien à la
 question. Il suffit d'un script init pour son processus et il peut
 être pris en charge.

Y'a plus simple:
http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-monitor-and-restart-linux-unix-service.html

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Re: Petit script

2012-05-31 Thread JF Straeten

Re,

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 04:22:19PM +0200, Bzzz wrote:

 Y'a plus simple:
 http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-monitor-and-restart-linux-unix-service.html


Génial a priori, et merci!

Mais, une fois les confettis retombés, monit est lui-même un service,
donc quid s'il se viande ?

Le lancer dans l'inittab avec un respawn ? (Bien que la Debian le
place dans /etc/init.d) ?

TIA,

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Re: Petit script

2012-05-31 Thread Franck Joncourt

Le 30/05/2012 13:23, Nahliel Steinberg a écrit :

bonjour,


bonjour,


Je cherche le moyen de relancer un service automatiquement quand il tombe, pour 
qu'il soit
relancé automatiquement.


Tu peux aussi regarder du côté du package monit je pense.

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Re: Petit script

2012-05-31 Thread Bzzz
On Thu, 31 May 2012 17:42:40 +0200
JF Straeten jfstrae...@scarlet.be wrote:

 Mais, une fois les confettis retombés, monit est lui-même un
 service, donc quid s'il se viande ?

Ben, en Gal les pgms de monitoring subissent des batteries de stress
tests de façon à justement éviter qu'il ne plantent.

Et puis, ça reste qd même rare de planter des daemons s/s Linux, 
à part peut-être les services qui sont extrêmement sollicités (svr
HTTP fonctionnant aux limites de la machine, par exemple).

S'il faut redémarrer des serveurs, il faut aussi se poser la question
du pourquoi du plantage (appli ou svr?) et celle du dimensionnement
du svr (RAM, CPU) - voire changer de programme serveur.

En bref, cépôsisimp et ça nécessite des tas de tests.

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Re: Petit script

2012-05-31 Thread JF Straeten

Re,

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 06:04:20PM +0200, Bzzz wrote:

[...]
  Mais, une fois les confettis retombés, monit est lui-même un
  service, donc quid s'il se viande ?
 
 Ben, en Gal les pgms de monitoring subissent des batteries de stress
 tests de façon à justement éviter qu'il ne plantent.
 
 Et puis, ça reste qd même rare de planter des daemons s/s Linux, 
 à part peut-être les services qui sont extrêmement sollicités (svr
 HTTP fonctionnant aux limites de la machine, par exemple).

Deux points pour toi, incontestablement. À vrai dire, j'étais surpris
en lisant la doc qu'on puisse vouloir monitorer sshd par exemple, que
je n'ai encore jamais vu se viander.

 
 S'il faut redémarrer des serveurs, il faut aussi se poser la
 question du pourquoi du plantage (appli ou svr?) et celle du
 dimensionnement du svr (RAM, CPU) - voire changer de programme
 serveur.

Vi. Mais j'y pensais pour monitorer le device ppp0 sur un router
distant, et relancer la connexion ADSL s'il disparaît, ce qui arrive
de temps en temps au changement d'IP.

Faut voir avec la doc si c'est possible, mais ça se présente bien.

Je m'apprêtais à commettre un script maison quand tu as proposé monit,
donc tu auras peut-être droit incessamment à une virtual beer :-)

'rci  A+,

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Re: Plugins para redmine 2.0.1 en debian - Error no such file to load -- dispatcher

2012-05-31 Thread Sergio Villalba
Aprovechando que estáis hablando de Redmine, acabo de instalar la
última versión descargando el fichero VMDK para VMWare (bitnami
redmine), hasta aquí todo bien.

El problema es que quiero cambiar la URL, actualmente es:
http://midominio.com/redmine y quiero dejarla en http://midominio.com

He mirado algunas páginas donde lo explican pero no funciona..añado la
entrado de mi configuración virtualhost.

VirtualHost *:80
   ServerName midominio.com
   DocumentRoot /opt/bitnami/apps/redmine/public
   ErrorLog logs/redmine_error_log

   #If you are using mod_fcgid and are going to upload files larger than
   #131072 bytes you should consider adding the following line
   #that allows to upload files up to 20 mb
   #MaxRequestLen 20971520


   #RailsEnv production
   #RailsBaseURI /redmine

  Directory /opt/bitnami/apps/redmine/public
   Options Indexes ExecCGI FollowSymLinks -MultiViews
   Order allow,deny
   Allow from all
   AllowOverride all
   /Directory
/VirtualHost

Gracias por todo.
Un saludo.

El día 29 de mayo de 2012 16:08, Carlos Miranda Molina (Mstaaravin)
mstaara...@gmail.com escribió:
 On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Maykel Franco Hernández
 may...@maykel.sytes.net wrote:
 Hola muy buenas, he instalado la version de redmine 2.0.1 en debian y todo
 ok. Pero me gustaría instalar los siguientes plugins:

 - Backlogs plugin
 - Budget plugin
 - Time display plugin
 Será porque esos plugins no funcionan con la versión 2.0.1?

 Te faltó el [OT] en el subject del mail...

 Asegurate de que esos plugins estan mantenidos para la versión 2.x de
 Redmine, por experiencia te digo que no instales algo que no ha tenido
 un desarrollo continuo porque a la larga no podrás actualizar tu
 redmine estando atado a un plugin viejo.

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Re: OT-Alternativa mysql cluster

2012-05-31 Thread Maykel Franco

 El 30/05/12 14:16, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:
- Original Message - From: C. L. Martinez 
carlopm...@gmail.com

To: lista-debian debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: OT-Alternativa mysql cluster


2012/5/29 Cristian Mitchell mitchell6...@gmail.com:

El día 29 de mayo de 2012 15:04, Felix Perez
felix.listadeb...@gmail.com escribió:

El día 29 de mayo de 2012 13:53, Maykel Franco Hernández
may...@maykel.sytes.net escribió:
Hola muy buenas, despues de probar y probar, descarto mysql cluster 
porque
tengo muchas tablas de 16 GB cada una y aún creando los object disk 
para

mysql, para que almacene los datos(no indices) en el disco duro, es
extremadamente lento y el servicio de sincronización entre los 
nodos y el

management es bastante malo(bajo mi punto de vista). Total que cuando
importo una tabla por ejemplo de 16GB, creando primero el create 
table...con
tablespace y demás y luego importando los datos, me ha llegado 
hasta salir

en consola algo así en inglés como que fallo desconocido de mysql y he
tenido que reiniciar el servicio de sincronización y volver a 
importar los
datos...Aún así, cada 2x3(estando importada la tabla) se cae el 
servicio de

sincronización. O reinicio, y ya no están los tablespaces. En fin



Alguien conoce alguna alternativa a mysql y que tenga alta 
disponibilidad de

servicio y datos??



Algo así como: http://www.mongodb.org/




Parece algo muy raro ... 16GiB no son nada hoy en día para una BBDD
... De todas formas, ¿has hecho la consulta en los foros de mysql?. Si
no, pues como te han dicho tienes a :


- Postgresql y a partir de aquí las comerciales: Informix, DB2, 
Oracle ...


Para mi existen solo 2 alternativas más:

1.- Postgresql muy potente.
2.- Firebird menos potente pero muy, pero muy sencillo de mantener y 
completamente funcional y estable.


Saludos
=
|| ISMAEL ||
=





Y una solucion de alta disponibilidad y replicación de datos?(quitando 
mysql cluster claro está...)



Saludos y gracias a todos.


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Re: OT-Alternativa mysql cluster

2012-05-31 Thread Marc Olive
On Thursday 31 May 2012 12:17:23 Maykel Franco wrote:

 Y una solucion de alta disponibilidad y replicación de datos?(quitando
 mysql cluster claro está...)

Postgres con pgpool o sin:
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Replication,_Clustering,_and_Connection_Pooling


 
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Re: ot: apt-get update raro (explicado)

2012-05-31 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 30 May 2012 18:24:33 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:

 El mié, 30-05-2012 a las 18:14 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:

(...)

 cabe notar que el google earth lo instalé en su momento desde un .deb,
 no es que yo haya agregado el repositorio para instalarlo por apt|
 aptitude|synaptics... y no, quiero que las actualizaciones sean MIS
 decisiones, esto de agregar un repositorio desde el que bajar software
 (¿que tal si la siguiente versión le agregan como dependencia a
 gran-hermano-pero-el-de-orwell.deb?), y hacerlo SIN preguntarme lo veo
 por lo menos como un troyano

Pues la próxima vez que descargues un .deb de un servidor externo _lee 
bien_ antes de instalar el paquete porque Google te dice *claramente* lo 
que va a hacer ;-)

***
https://www.google.com/chrome

Nota: al instalar Google Chrome, se añadirá el repositorio de Google, por 
lo que el sistema mantendrá actualizado Google Chrome de forma 
automática. Si no quieres utilizar el repositorio de Google, ejecuta 
sudo touch /etc/default/google-chrome antes de instalar el paquete.
***

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Re: ip fija

2012-05-31 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 30 May 2012 17:03:30 -0430, diego perez escribió:

(ese html...)

 Amigos un saludo para todos los debianistas, vengo por aqui para que me
 ayuden con mi red,
 quiero poner las ip fija de dos pc, la de mi hermano tiene windows y la
 mia debian. como pongo la ip fija en estos dos pcs..

http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration

 tengo moden y router

Mejor, así podrás usarlos para buscar información en Google una vez que 
tengas la IP fija puesta :-)

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debian en la nube

2012-05-31 Thread Ricardo Adolfo Sánchez Arboleda
Lista agradezco, me ubicaran que proyecto tiene o viene desarrollando
Debian en la nube: Como instalar, repositorios, hardware.

algún ejemplo?

He visto este
http://www.linuxerz.org/2012/05/debian-7-wheezy-incluira-software-de-nubes/


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Re: Postfix Autenticado

2012-05-31 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 30 May 2012 18:12:53 -0400, Alekso escribió:

 Hola lista
 EStoy montando mi postfix, y envio correos locales pero cuando envio
 correos fuera de mi dominio me da error Message not sent. Server
 replied:
 Transaction failed
 554 5.7.1 virgen@infomed.sld.cu: Relay access denied

(...)

Bueno, así de primeras veo que tienes algunas entradas duplicadas:

 smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes
(...)
 smtp_sasl_auth_enable = no

Vas a volver loco al Postfix ;-)

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Re: Consulta sobre Instalar libimobiledevice 1.1.1 para reconocer iphone en squezee

2012-05-31 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 30 May 2012 19:24:13 -0500, Gabo escribió:

 2012/5/30 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:

 ¿Seguro que has seguido todos los pasos? :-)
 
 Si si, hasta lo hice 2 veces.

Raro, porque entonces sabrías cómo evitar ese mensajito de error al 
compilar :-)

 dh_install: libimobiledevice-doc missing files (docs/html/*), aborting
 make[1]: *** [override_dh_install] Error 2 make[1]: se sale del
 directorio `/home/gabriel/libmobile/libimobiledevice-1.1.1' make: ***
 [binary] Error 2
 dpkg-buildpackage: fallo: debian/rules binary devolvió un estado de
 salida de error 2

 Yo diría que este error está explicado en el enlace anterior (tercer
 topo, punto 3).

 Gracias pero también he seguido tal cual el punto, te refieres a el topo
 Conect the iPhone, cierto?, 

Err... ahí hay muchos topos. Yo me refería al tercero, concretamente:

***
There has often been an issue building the documentation. You can try to 
build first, or you can just skip the docs.
In debian/control comment out (with #) the entire section for Package: 
libimobiledevice-doc
***

 bueno, no funcionó, sin embargo instalé el Rhythmbox y detecta que el
 iPhone está conectado pero pues no se deja agregar música. Yo supongo
 que es por la falta del libimobiledevice 1.1.1, en ese punto dice que
 hay que rezar y pues no recé propiamente pero si hice fuercita mental
 jejeje y ni así funcionó!

Si no has compilado la versión del paquete actualizada que es la que 
resuelve el problema es normal que no te funcione, ni con toda la fuerza 
mental del Profesor X :-)

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Re: debian en la nube

2012-05-31 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 31 May 2012 08:49:08 -0500, Ricardo Adolfo Sánchez Arboleda
escribió:

(ese html...)

 Lista agradezco, me ubicaran que proyecto tiene o viene desarrollando
 Debian en la nube: Como instalar, repositorios, hardware.
 
 algún ejemplo?
 
 He visto este
 http://www.linuxerz.org/2012/05/debian-7-wheezy-incluira-software-de-nubes/

Pues hablaron de eso no hace mucho en las Debian News:

http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2012/09/#cloud

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Wget, descarga directorio completo

2012-05-31 Thread Pepeco 1948
Estimados amigos,

¿Alguien podría ilustrarme sobre cómo wget puede descargar directorios
completos? Utilizando los valores -r y -m me descarga todo el site, y
no el directorio concreto.

Ejemplo:  wget http://prueba.com/directorio/ --- únicamente necesito
el contenido de ese directorio.

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Re: Wget, descarga directorio completo

2012-05-31 Thread fernando sainz
El 31/05/12, Pepeco 1948 pepeco1...@gmail.com escribió:
 Estimados amigos,

 ¿Alguien podría ilustrarme sobre cómo wget puede descargar directorios
 completos? Utilizando los valores -r y -m me descarga todo el site, y
 no el directorio concreto.

 Ejemplo:  wget http://prueba.com/directorio/ --- únicamente necesito
 el contenido de ese directorio.

 Gracias,
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Solo tienes que mirar en el man

man wget

 Try to specify the criteria that match the kind of download you are
   trying to achieve.  If you want to download only one page, use
   `--page-requisites' without any additional recursion.  If you want to
   download things under one directory, use `-np' to avoid downloading
   things from other directories.  If you want to download all the files
   from one directory, use `-l 1' to make sure the recursion depth never
   exceeds one.  see Following Links, for more information about this

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Re: Wget, descarga directorio completo

2012-05-31 Thread Pepeco 1948
Ya lo solucioné. Gracias.

2012/5/31, fernando sainz fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com:
 El 31/05/12, Pepeco 1948 pepeco1...@gmail.com escribió:
 Estimados amigos,

 ¿Alguien podría ilustrarme sobre cómo wget puede descargar directorios
 completos? Utilizando los valores -r y -m me descarga todo el site, y
 no el directorio concreto.

 Ejemplo:  wget http://prueba.com/directorio/ --- únicamente necesito
 el contenido de ese directorio.

 Gracias,
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 Solo tienes que mirar en el man

 man wget

  Try to specify the criteria that match the kind of download you are
trying to achieve.  If you want to download only one page, use
`--page-requisites' without any additional recursion.  If you want
 to
download things under one directory, use `-np' to avoid downloading
things from other directories.  If you want to download all the
 files
from one directory, use `-l 1' to make sure the recursion depth
 never
exceeds one.  see Following Links, for more information about this

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Re: ot: apt-get update raro (explicado)

2012-05-31 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El jue, 31-05-2012 a las 13:27 +, Camaleón escribió: 
 El Wed, 30 May 2012 18:24:33 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:
 
  El mié, 30-05-2012 a las 18:14 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:
 
 (...)
 
  cabe notar que el google earth lo instalé en su momento desde un .deb,
  no es que yo haya agregado el repositorio para instalarlo por apt|
  aptitude|synaptics... y no, quiero que las actualizaciones sean MIS
  decisiones, esto de agregar un repositorio desde el que bajar software
  (¿que tal si la siguiente versión le agregan como dependencia a
  gran-hermano-pero-el-de-orwell.deb?), y hacerlo SIN preguntarme lo veo
  por lo menos como un troyano
 
 Pues la próxima vez que descargues un .deb de un servidor externo _lee 
 bien_ antes de instalar el paquete porque Google te dice *claramente* lo 
 que va a hacer ;-)
 
 ***
 https://www.google.com/chrome
 
 Nota: al instalar Google Chrome, se añadirá el repositorio de Google, por 
 lo que el sistema mantendrá actualizado Google Chrome de forma 
 automática. Si no quieres utilizar el repositorio de Google, ejecuta 
 sudo touch /etc/default/google-chrome antes de instalar el paquete.
 ***
 

pero yo ni siquiera uso el chrome, en realidad estaba poniendo el earth,
y ahí http://www.google.com/intl/es/earth/download/ge/agree.html
no dice nada de repositorios extra, y no veo porque tendría que ir a
leer las advertencias para otros programas de esa empresa.

Si estoy de acuerdo en lo de prestar atención y no ponerme a instalar
cosas a lo pavote


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Re: ot: apt-get update raro (explicado)

2012-05-31 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 31 May 2012 11:45:04 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:

 El jue, 31-05-2012 a las 13:27 +, Camaleón escribió:
 El Wed, 30 May 2012 18:24:33 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:
 
  El mié, 30-05-2012 a las 18:14 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:
 
 (...)
 
  cabe notar que el google earth lo instalé en su momento desde un
  .deb, no es que yo haya agregado el repositorio para instalarlo por
  apt| aptitude|synaptics... y no, quiero que las actualizaciones sean
  MIS decisiones, esto de agregar un repositorio desde el que bajar
  software (¿que tal si la siguiente versión le agregan como
  dependencia a gran-hermano-pero-el-de-orwell.deb?), y hacerlo SIN
  preguntarme lo veo por lo menos como un troyano
 
 Pues la próxima vez que descargues un .deb de un servidor externo
 _lee bien_ antes de instalar el paquete porque Google te dice
 *claramente* lo que va a hacer ;-)
 
 ***
 https://www.google.com/chrome
 
 Nota: al instalar Google Chrome, se añadirá el repositorio de Google,
 por lo que el sistema mantendrá actualizado Google Chrome de forma
 automática. Si no quieres utilizar el repositorio de Google, ejecuta
 sudo touch /etc/default/google-chrome antes de instalar el paquete.
 ***
 
 
 pero yo ni siquiera uso el chrome, en realidad estaba poniendo el earth,
 y ahí http://www.google.com/intl/es/earth/download/ge/agree.html no dice
 nada de repositorios extra, y no veo porque tendría que ir a leer las
 advertencias para otros programas de esa empresa.

Ah... amigo, los términos legales y las condiciones del servicio hay que 
leerlas con lupa, porque esto es lo que estás aceptando (y así lo 
indica) al descargar el GE:

***
http://www.google.es/intl/es/policies/terms/regional.html

Acerca del software de nuestros Servicios

Si un Servicio requiere o incluye software que se puede descargar, este 
software podrá actualizarse automáticamente en tu dispositivo siempre que 
haya versiones o funciones nuevas disponibles. Algunos Servicios pueden 
permitir que definas los ajustes de actualización automática. (...)
***

También lo mencionan aquí:

***
http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/

Overview

Google’s Linux software packages will automatically configure the 
repository settings necessary to keep your Google Linux applications up-
to-date. Please download and install packages from the appropriate 
product pages.

Google Chrome
Google Earth
Google Music Manager
Google Voice and Video Chat
mod_pagespeed for Apache
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Re: Wheezy congelada para mediados de junio

2012-05-31 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 30 May 2012 15:28:36 -0500, Odair Augusto Trujillo Orozco
escribió:

 Entonces nos quedamos sin kde-4.8?

¿Por qué lo dices? :-?

Según este comentario en la lista de kde habrá una especie de mezcolanza: 
plasma 4.8.4 y algunas aplicaciones con versiones anteriores (4.7).

http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2012/05/msg00066.html

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traza squid mostrar nombre de host

2012-05-31 Thread linux
Saludos lista, como puedo hacer para cuando visualice la traza de mi 
squid en ves de que me muestre la ip desde donde se esta accediendo me 
muestre el nombre del host, tengo squid 2.x saludos


Liuber

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Evitar descargas de imagenes en apache2 debian

2012-05-31 Thread Maykel Franco Hernández
 

Hola muy buenas, necesito evitar que se descarguen las imágenes de
una cierta carpeta. No me refiero a no listarlas con el Options
-Indexes, sino que no se puedan descargar. Que el directorio se liste
pero no se puedan descargar. Estoy buscando documentación pero sólo
encuentro el Options -Indexes. 

Saludos y gracias de antemano. 
 

Problemas con la carga de módulo de alsa

2012-05-31 Thread Carlos Jimenez
Hola amigos de la lista, recurro a ustedes porque tengo un problema en
mi pc que no he podido solucionar por mas que he googleado.

Uso Debian Squeeze con arquitectura de 64 bits, tengo una tarjeta de
sonido HDA VIA VT8237 que es cargada como módulo snd_hda_intel, ademas
de esto cuento con una tarjeta de TV KWORLD Plus Tv Analog lite PCI
(PVR-TV 7134) que se carga como saa7134_alsa.

El problema radica en que al arranque del pc estas cargan
aleatoriamente, y la idea es que cargue siempre de primero en módulo
de la tarjeta de audio (snd_hda_intel), sin embargo cada que carga al
contrario, el pc queda sin audio y toca reiniciarlo una o varias veces
hasta que carga los módulos en el orden correcto.

He intentado las siguientes soluciones:

-Editar el archivo /etc/modules agregando la línea snd_hda_intel o
snd-hda-intel, tambien he intentado agregando la línea saa7134_alsa o
saa7134-alsa, como por ensayar, pero no hay resultado alguno.

-Editar el archivo /etc/default/alsa modificando la línea
force_unload_modules_before_suspend= por
force_unload_modules_before_suspend=snd-hda-intel o por
force_unload_modules_before_suspend=saa7134-alsa y con las mismas
combinaciones de guiones altos y bajos.

Por ser Squeeze no aplica usar el alsa-config.

Tambien edité el archivo /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, reemplazando
algunos -2 por ceros, uno a la vez. Sin resultados.

De nuevo muchas gracias por su amable asesoría.


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Re: traza squid mostrar nombre de host

2012-05-31 Thread Esteban Torres
No recuerdo como se puede sacar el nombre del host(tampoco estoy seguro que lo 
puedas hacer sin un dns por medio), pero lo puedes ver en log_format de squid. 

No es una documentacion dificil de entender y ademas te viene claramente todo 
lo que puedes mostrar en tu log. 


-Original Message-
From: linux liuberperez@infomed.sld.cu
Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 11:58:01 
To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Subject:  traza squid mostrar nombre de host

Saludos lista, como puedo hacer para cuando visualice la traza de mi 
squid en ves de que me muestre la ip desde donde se esta accediendo me 
muestre el nombre del host, tengo squid 2.x saludos

Liuber

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Re: Evitar descargas de imagenes en apache2 debian

2012-05-31 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El jue, 31-05-2012 a las 19:43 +0200, Maykel Franco Hernández escribió:
 Hola muy buenas, necesito evitar que se descarguen las imágenes de una
 cierta carpeta. No me refiero a no listarlas con el Options -Indexes,
 sino que no se puedan descargar. Que el directorio se liste pero no se
 puedan descargar. Estoy buscando documentación pero sólo encuentro el
 Options -Indexes.
 
  

nunca lo intenté (si no quiero que algo se descargue... no lo dejaría en
un lugar que tenga acceso desde el servidor web), pero ya probaste lo
mas básico?
chmod a-r-x-w imagenes.*   en teoría, apache no debería poder leer el
archivo, y si no puede leerlo, no puede enviarlo. En la práctica... pues
no se, te queda probar y ver que pasa

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Es posible enviar comandos por smtp a servidores????????

2012-05-31 Thread kazabe
Hola.

estoy buscando la forma de lograr enviar un comando por smtp a mis
servidores para ejecutar tareas especificas.  Por ejemplo: enviar un
correo a servi...@dominio.com con el asunto: REPORTARSE, y que el
servidor envie a una cuenta indicada un reporte del estado de la
maquina.

tengo varios scripts con los que realizo esas tareas por ssh, de esta manera

ssh usuario@servidor /opt/scripts/reportarse.sh

Con eso el servidor me envia un resumen del estado del servidor, a una
cuenta de correo que ya esta declarada dentro del script.   La idea es
poder realizar lo mismo, pero por correo.

Toda la informacion que logro encontrar es referente a enviar correos
desde la linea de comandos, pero lo que necesito es enviar un comando
al servidor por correo.

Alguno de ustedes ha tenido algun esquema similar?  Pueden facilitarme
alguna idea para saber por donde enfoco mi investigacion?

saludos y muchas gracias.

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el universo y la estupidez humana... y no estoy muy seguro de la primera» :
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Re: OT: Configuración visual aplicaciones Gnome

2012-05-31 Thread Felix Perez
El día 23 de mayo de 2012 08:40, JAP javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com escribió:
 Estimados:

 Perdonen mi ignorancia, pero esto me está sacando de quicio por la
 manifiesta incapacidad que tengo para solucionar algo tan simple.
 Uso en mi trabajo GNU/Linux Debian testing con escritorio KDE en forma
 normal, y dentro de él, algunas aplicaciones de Gnome, específicamente
 Evolution, con lo que NO tengo cargado todos los paquetes de Gnome, sólo
 las dependencias de los dos o tres programas que tengo.
 Hace unos días hice una actualización del sistema, y resultó en un
 desastre con los paquetes relacionados a Gnome.
 Van los dos ejemplos:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/78308579@N07/7255164248/in/photostream/lightbox/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/78308579@N07/7255164622/in/photostream/lightbox/
 Como ven, por alguna extraña conjunción de astros, las barras de
 selección, marrón grisado con letras negras en alguna época antes de la
 actualización de marras, se transformaron en negras con letras negras,
 lo que las vuelve imposible de leer.
 He toqueteado toda la configuración de pantalla de KDE, sin éxito.
 He instalado el escritorio de Gnome completo, y toqueteado toda la
 configuración de pantalla de Gnome, sin éxito (por lo menos, las que
 encuentro).
 Respecto de este último, soy lego total, pues nunca usé ese escritorio;
 sólo he usado en profundidad KDE, y LXDE cuando quiero algo liviano.
 El tema es que sigo con las barras y letras en negro, sin ver nada.
 Pregunta:
 ¿Algún usuario de Gnome sería tan amable de decirme dónde cambiar esta
 configuración para que se vuelva legible?
 Muchas gracias.


Hola Javier has logrado solucionar el problema?
yo estoy en xcfe y testing , e intentado modificar lo que indican en
este mismo post y nada.  Las últimas actualizaciones no aportan nada.

Gracias y disculpa por el privado.

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Re: Es posible enviar comandos por smtp a servidores????????

2012-05-31 Thread Cristian Mitchell
El día 31 de mayo de 2012 16:06, kazabe kaz...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola.

 estoy buscando la forma de lograr enviar un comando por smtp a mis
 servidores para ejecutar tareas especificas.  Por ejemplo: enviar un
 correo a servi...@dominio.com con el asunto: REPORTARSE, y que el
 servidor envie a una cuenta indicada un reporte del estado de la
 maquina.

 tengo varios scripts con los que realizo esas tareas por ssh, de esta manera

 ssh usuario@servidor /opt/scripts/reportarse.sh

 Con eso el servidor me envia un resumen del estado del servidor, a una
 cuenta de correo que ya esta declarada dentro del script.   La idea es
 poder realizar lo mismo, pero por correo.

 Toda la informacion que logro encontrar es referente a enviar correos
 desde la linea de comandos, pero lo que necesito es enviar un comando
 al servidor por correo.

 Alguno de ustedes ha tenido algun esquema similar?  Pueden facilitarme
 alguna idea para saber por donde enfoco mi investigacion?

 saludos y muchas gracias.

 «Existen dos cosas infinitas:
 el universo y la estupidez humana... y no estoy muy seguro de la primera» :
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Re: Es posible enviar comandos por smtp a servidores????????

2012-05-31 Thread Diego Sanchez
El día 31 de mayo de 2012 16:06, kazabe kaz...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola.

 estoy buscando la forma de lograr enviar un comando por smtp a mis
 servidores para ejecutar tareas especificas.  Por ejemplo: enviar un
 correo a servi...@dominio.com con el asunto: REPORTARSE, y que el
 servidor envie a una cuenta indicada un reporte del estado de la
 maquina.

 tengo varios scripts con los que realizo esas tareas por ssh, de esta manera

 ssh usuario@servidor /opt/scripts/reportarse.sh

 Con eso el servidor me envia un resumen del estado del servidor, a una
 cuenta de correo que ya esta declarada dentro del script.   La idea es
 poder realizar lo mismo, pero por correo.

 Toda la informacion que logro encontrar es referente a enviar correos
 desde la linea de comandos, pero lo que necesito es enviar un comando
 al servidor por correo.

 Alguno de ustedes ha tenido algun esquema similar?  Pueden facilitarme
 alguna idea para saber por donde enfoco mi investigacion?

 saludos y muchas gracias.


Como idea, ya la había escuchado.
Necesitas un daemon que esté procesando una cuenta de correo.
Si viene de una dirección conocida (la tuya), que prosiga. hasta
llegar al cuerpo del mail y ejecute la string.

En un momento, tuve ganas de hacerlo, pero fue..
Me terminé croneando un ssh autenticando por keys, que tire el comando
remoto y me mande un mail

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Re: Evitar descargas de imagenes en apache2 debian

2012-05-31 Thread Pablo Jiménez
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 03:03:16PM -0300, Gonzalo Rivero wrote:
 El jue, 31-05-2012 a las 19:43 +0200, Maykel Franco Hernández escribió:
  Hola muy buenas, necesito evitar que se descarguen las imágenes de una
  cierta carpeta. No me refiero a no listarlas con el Options -Indexes,
  sino que no se puedan descargar. Que el directorio se liste pero no se
  puedan descargar. Estoy buscando documentación pero sólo encuentro el
  Options -Indexes.
  
   
 
 nunca lo intenté (si no quiero que algo se descargue... no lo dejaría en
 un lugar que tenga acceso desde el servidor web), pero ya probaste lo
 mas básico?
 chmod a-r-x-w imagenes.*   en teoría, apache no debería poder leer el
 archivo, y si no puede leerlo, no puede enviarlo. En la práctica... pues
 no se, te queda probar y ver que pasa

El truco habitual para poder mostrar imagenes, pero evitar que sean 
descargadas es valiendose del valor de Referer:

http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/apache-mod_rewrite-hot-linking-images-leeching-howto/

Ahora bien, eso no logra impedir que las imagenes puedan ser 
descargadas, pues con wget o curl puedes configurar el valor de Referer 
y saltarte sin problemas las restricciones que impongas:

http://www.askapache.com/linux/wget-header-trick.html
http://linux-journal.blogspot.com/2005/04/curl-examples.html

Saludos.

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Re: Es posible enviar comandos por smtp a servidores????????

2012-05-31 Thread Cristian Mitchell
El día 31 de mayo de 2012 17:25, Yoinier Hernandez Nieves
ynie...@lt.datazucar.cu escribió:
 El 31/05/2012 14:19, Cristian Mitchell escribió:

 El día 31 de mayo de 2012 16:06, kazabekaz...@gmail.com  escribió:

 Hola.

 estoy buscando la forma de lograr enviar un comando por smtp a mis
 servidores para ejecutar tareas especificas.  Por ejemplo: enviar un
 correo a servi...@dominio.com con el asunto: REPORTARSE, y que el
 servidor envie a una cuenta indicada un reporte del estado de la
 maquina.

 tengo varios scripts con los que realizo esas tareas por ssh, de esta
 manera

 ssh usuario@servidor /opt/scripts/reportarse.sh

 Con eso el servidor me envia un resumen del estado del servidor, a una
 cuenta de correo que ya esta declarada dentro del script.   La idea es
 poder realizar lo mismo, pero por correo.

 Toda la informacion que logro encontrar es referente a enviar correos
 desde la linea de comandos, pero lo que necesito es enviar un comando
 al servidor por correo.

 Alguno de ustedes ha tenido algun esquema similar?  Pueden facilitarme
 alguna idea para saber por donde enfoco mi investigacion?

 saludos y muchas gracias.

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 el universo y la estupidez humana... y no estoy muy seguro de la primera»
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 desde el  postfix se puede

 Como?



por favor no respondas al privado

el tema es que no recuerdo bien, hace mucho tiempo que arme algo asi

hay dos formas una con procmail en el filtro le pones que dada una
condicion ejecute un script (OJO el los permisos, por que postfix se
ejacuta en un chroot y como usuario mail)

la otra es el mismo proseso por el cual se ejecuta un progrma externo
de filtro o antivirus, se agrega una linea en master.cf

eso es lo que no recuerdo bien


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Re: Es posible enviar comandos por smtp a servidores????????

2012-05-31 Thread Pablo Jiménez
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 02:06:54PM -0500, kazabe wrote:
 Hola.
 
 estoy buscando la forma de lograr enviar un comando por smtp a mis
 servidores para ejecutar tareas especificas.  Por ejemplo: enviar un
 correo a servi...@dominio.com con el asunto: REPORTARSE, y que el
 servidor envie a una cuenta indicada un reporte del estado de la
 maquina.
 
 tengo varios scripts con los que realizo esas tareas por ssh, de esta manera
 
 ssh usuario@servidor /opt/scripts/reportarse.sh
 
 Con eso el servidor me envia un resumen del estado del servidor, a una
 cuenta de correo que ya esta declarada dentro del script.   La idea es
 poder realizar lo mismo, pero por correo.
 
 Toda la informacion que logro encontrar es referente a enviar correos
 desde la linea de comandos, pero lo que necesito es enviar un comando
 al servidor por correo.
 
 Alguno de ustedes ha tenido algun esquema similar?  Pueden facilitarme
 alguna idea para saber por donde enfoco mi investigacion?
 
 saludos y muchas gracias.
 
 «Existen dos cosas infinitas:
 el universo y la estupidez humana... y no estoy muy seguro de la primera» :
 Albert Einstein

¿Factible? Sip, seguramente puedas hacer algo usando procmail.
¿Recomendable? No. El permitir la ejecucion arbitraria de comandos que 
envias por correo es un tema demasiado peliagudo, salvo que sepas muy 
bien lo que estas haciendo.

Si necesitas monitorear el estado de tus servidores, yo optaria por usar 
SNMP y la informacion recolectada la puedes mostrar a traves de Cacti o 
alguna herramienta similar. Si tu requerimiento de monitoreo es *muy* 
particular, tal vez Nagios te pueda ayudar o quizas programando algo en 
Expect.

Si lo que deseas es automatizar la ejecucion de tareas rutinarias de 
mantencion en los servidores, tal vez lo mejor sea recurrir a 
herramientas como rex, cfengine, puppet o similares:

http://rexify.org
http://cfengine.com/community

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Re: Wheezy congelada para mediados de junio

2012-05-31 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
- Original Message - 
From: Odair Augusto Trujillo Orozco hald...@gmail.com

To: Debian User Spanish debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: Wheezy congelada para mediados de junio


2012/5/30 BasaBuru basab...@basatu.org


Aupa

En debian news anuncian que el Release Team tiene programada la 
congelación

para la segunda mitad de junio

Se acerca la release de wheezy como estable.

Bits from the Release Team
--

Cyril Brulebois sent some bits from the Release Team [1]. Cyril
announced that, although the exact date has not been determined yet, the
freeze of Debian 7.0 Wheezy has been scheduled for the second half of
June. Cyril also asked for help in fixing the high number of Release-
Critical bugs affecting Wheezy [2].

1 : https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/05/msg4.html
2 : http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/other/testing.html


En estos momentos hay unos 500 paquetes críticos para la release.

Release-Critical bugs statistics for the upcoming release
-

According to the Bugs Search interface of the Ultimate Debian
Database [20], the upcoming release, Debian Wheezy, is currently
affected by 857 Release-Critical bugs. Ignoring bugs which are easily
solved or on the way to being solved, roughly speaking, about 500
Release-Critical bugs remain to be solved for the release to happen.

20 : http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi

There are also some hints on how to interpret [21] these numbers.

21 : http://wiki.debian.org/ProjectNews/RC-Stats

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Entonces nos quedamos sin kde-4.8?


Y ya está resuelto lo de las configuraciones de gnome3 también para ese 
entonces?, o mejor dicho de gnome-shell?


Como quedará este sistema de escritorio en definitiva?

Realizo todas estas preguntas por los comentarios que han surgido con 
anterioridad en esta lista y como yo no tengo acceso a Internet y no tengo 
gnome3 todavía pues temo un poco que gnome3 quede un poco verde aun con el 
Wheezy.


Saludos
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Re:[SOLUCIONADO] Consulta sobre Instalar libimobiledevice 1.1.1 para reconocer iphone en squezee

2012-05-31 Thread Gabo
2012/5/31 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
 El Wed, 30 May 2012 19:24:13 -0500, Gabo escribió:

 2012/5/30 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:

 ¿Seguro que has seguido todos los pasos? :-)

 Si si, hasta lo hice 2 veces.

 Raro, porque entonces sabrías cómo evitar ese mensajito de error al
 compilar :-)

Jaja hice los pasos 2 veces hasta el del error! jeje..

Bueno hice otra vez todo el proceso y ahora si compiló y creo los famosos .debs.

No sé que hice pero ya pude compilar..

Gracias a todos y salu2


 dh_install: libimobiledevice-doc missing files (docs/html/*), aborting
 make[1]: *** [override_dh_install] Error 2 make[1]: se sale del
 directorio `/home/gabriel/libmobile/libimobiledevice-1.1.1' make: ***
 [binary] Error 2
 dpkg-buildpackage: fallo: debian/rules binary devolvió un estado de
 salida de error 2

 Yo diría que este error está explicado en el enlace anterior (tercer
 topo, punto 3).

 Gracias pero también he seguido tal cual el punto, te refieres a el topo
 Conect the iPhone, cierto?,

 Err... ahí hay muchos topos. Yo me refería al tercero, concretamente:

 ***
 There has often been an issue building the documentation. You can try to
 build first, or you can just skip the docs.
 In debian/control comment out (with #) the entire section for Package:
 libimobiledevice-doc
 ***

 bueno, no funcionó, sin embargo instalé el Rhythmbox y detecta que el
 iPhone está conectado pero pues no se deja agregar música. Yo supongo
 que es por la falta del libimobiledevice 1.1.1, en ese punto dice que
 hay que rezar y pues no recé propiamente pero si hice fuercita mental
 jejeje y ni así funcionó!

 Si no has compilado la versión del paquete actualizada que es la que
 resuelve el problema es normal que no te funcione, ni con toda la fuerza
 mental del Profesor X :-)

Jajaja! estaba considerando poner el wheezy pero ya lo logré.. gracias

 Saludos,

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Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

2012-05-31 Thread Cleber Ianes
Saudações.

Essa é a terceira vez que repito essa pergunta...
Nas outras 2 vezes ela caiu no limbo. Não obtive qualquer resposta que tenha 
me ajudado. Por ser um problema recorrente, acontece com outras pessoas também. 
Não sei se estou conseguindo me fazer entender, mas vamos lá novamente...

Dessa vez estou tentando remover o Gimp com os comandos aptitude remove gimp 
ou apt-get remove gimp e nos 2 casos aparece a mensagem de que será removido 
o Gimp e o Gnome Claro, não confirmo pois já fiz isso e foi removido todo o 
gnome de meu desk.

Não é só com o gimp e nem é só em uma máquina que isso ocorre.
Alguém sabe me dizer porquê e como remover apenas um programa sem remover todo 
o gnome

Obrigado.

Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

2012-05-31 Thread Luiz Henrique Rauber Rodrigues
Tá usando uma distribuição Debian Like? Bem, algumas qdestas vem por
default com alguns softwares e então estes estão encravados no sistema pra
teoricamente aumentar a velocidade de operação.

Solução 1 - Remove o gimp, que vai remover o gnome junto, então depois
instala o gnome novamente
Solução 2 - Deixa o gimp queto aí, assim como deixo o evolution.

Espero que não tenha falado bobagem, é o eu que acredito, se tiver outra
solução, avisa ai que quero saber também.

Em 31 de maio de 2012 09:26, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.brescreveu:

 Saudações.
 Essa é a terceira vez que repito essa pergunta...
 Nas outras 2 vezes ela caiu no limbo. Não obtive qualquer resposta que
 tenha me ajudado. Por ser um problema recorrente, acontece com outras
 pessoas também. Não sei se estou conseguindo me fazer entender, mas vamos
 lá novamente...

 Dessa vez estou tentando remover o Gimp com os comandos aptitude remove
 gimp ou apt-get remove gimp e nos 2 casos aparece a mensagem de que será
 removido o Gimp e o Gnome Claro, não confirmo pois já fiz isso e foi
 removido todo o gnome de meu desk.

 Não é só com o gimp e nem é só em uma máquina que isso ocorre.
 Alguém sabe me dizer porquê e como remover apenas um programa sem remover
 todo o gnome

 Obrigado.




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Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

2012-05-31 Thread Dyego Cantu
Olá,

Na documentação do Debian explica como gerenciar pacotes:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.pt.html

É um ponto de partida para entender a questão.

Abraço.

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Em 31 de maio de 2012 09:35, Luiz Henrique Rauber Rodrigues 
luiz.rau...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Tá usando uma distribuição Debian Like? Bem, algumas qdestas vem por
 default com alguns softwares e então estes estão encravados no sistema pra
 teoricamente aumentar a velocidade de operação.

 Solução 1 - Remove o gimp, que vai remover o gnome junto, então depois
 instala o gnome novamente
 Solução 2 - Deixa o gimp queto aí, assim como deixo o evolution.

 Espero que não tenha falado bobagem, é o eu que acredito, se tiver outra
 solução, avisa ai que quero saber também.

 Em 31 de maio de 2012 09:26, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.brescreveu:

 Saudações.
 Essa é a terceira vez que repito essa pergunta...
 Nas outras 2 vezes ela caiu no limbo. Não obtive qualquer resposta que
 tenha me ajudado. Por ser um problema recorrente, acontece com outras
 pessoas também. Não sei se estou conseguindo me fazer entender, mas vamos
 lá novamente...

 Dessa vez estou tentando remover o Gimp com os comandos aptitude remove
 gimp ou apt-get remove gimp e nos 2 casos aparece a mensagem de que será
 removido o Gimp e o Gnome Claro, não confirmo pois já fiz isso e foi
 removido todo o gnome de meu desk.

 Não é só com o gimp e nem é só em uma máquina que isso ocorre.
 Alguém sabe me dizer porquê e como remover apenas um programa sem remover
 todo o gnome

 Obrigado.




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Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

2012-05-31 Thread caio abreu ferreira

Cleber

	Em vez de instalar o gnome através do comando apt-get install gnome, 
seria interessante você utilizar o comando apt-get install gnome-core. 
O pacote gnome-core contem somente o essencial para que o gnome possa 
funcionar, o resto você vai instalando conforme a necessidade.


Espero ter ajudado.

Abraço.

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On 5/31/12 9:42 AM, Dyego Cantu wrote:

Olá,

Na documentação do Debian explica como gerenciar pacotes:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.pt.html

É um ponto de partida para entender a questão.

Abraço.

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Em 31 de maio de 2012 09:35, Luiz Henrique Rauber Rodrigues
luiz.rau...@gmail.com mailto:luiz.rau...@gmail.com escreveu:

Tá usando uma distribuição Debian Like? Bem, algumas qdestas vem por
default com alguns softwares e então estes estão encravados no
sistema pra teoricamente aumentar a velocidade de operação.

Solução 1 - Remove o gimp, que vai remover o gnome junto, então
depois instala o gnome novamente
Solução 2 - Deixa o gimp queto aí, assim como deixo o evolution.

Espero que não tenha falado bobagem, é o eu que acredito, se tiver
outra solução, avisa ai que quero saber também.

Em 31 de maio de 2012 09:26, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br
mailto:cleberia...@yahoo.com.br escreveu:

Saudações.
Essa é a terceira vez que repito essa pergunta...
Nas outras 2 vezes ela caiu no limbo. Não obtive qualquer
resposta que tenha me ajudado. Por ser um problema recorrente,
acontece com outras pessoas também. Não sei se estou conseguindo
me fazer entender, mas vamos lá novamente...

Dessa vez estou tentando remover o Gimp com os comandos
aptitude remove gimp ou apt-get remove gimp e nos 2 casos
aparece a mensagem de que será removido o Gimp e o Gnome
Claro, não confirmo pois já fiz isso e foi removido todo o gnome
de meu desk.

Não é só com o gimp e nem é só em uma máquina que isso ocorre.
Alguém sabe me dizer porquê e como remover apenas um programa
sem remover todo o gnome

Obrigado.



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Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

2012-05-31 Thread Leandro Henrique Stein
Mas a questão é que se você faz uma instalação padrão marcando Desktop no
menu ele instala o Gnome-core que gera as dependências, que causam o
problema.

Uma vez tive esse problema, tive q colocar o Gnome numa máquina por causa
de um
sistema java que precisava ser testado, e só rodava com GUI. depois fui
fazer a desinstalação
do gnome e ele levou junto um monte de pacotes relacionados.

A única solução que tive, por ser uma máquina usada em pesquisas, foi pegar
a lista de pacotes
e reinstalar no braço. Não sei se existe uma forma alternativa para essa
questão de remoção
de dependências!

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Em 31 de maio de 2012 09:50, caio abreu ferreira abreuf...@gmail.comescreveu:

Cleber

Em vez de instalar o gnome através do comando apt-get install
 gnome, seria interessante você utilizar o comando apt-get install
 gnome-core. O pacote gnome-core contem somente o essencial para que o
 gnome possa funcionar, o resto você vai instalando conforme a necessidade.

Espero ter ajudado.

 Abraço.

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 On 5/31/12 9:42 AM, Dyego Cantu wrote:

 Olá,

 Na documentação do Debian explica como gerenciar pacotes:
 http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.pt.html

 É um ponto de partida para entender a questão.

 Abraço.

 --
 Dyego Cantu



 Em 31 de maio de 2012 09:35, Luiz Henrique Rauber Rodrigues
 luiz.rau...@gmail.com mailto:luiz.rau...@gmail.com escreveu:


Tá usando uma distribuição Debian Like? Bem, algumas qdestas vem por
default com alguns softwares e então estes estão encravados no
sistema pra teoricamente aumentar a velocidade de operação.

Solução 1 - Remove o gimp, que vai remover o gnome junto, então
depois instala o gnome novamente
Solução 2 - Deixa o gimp queto aí, assim como deixo o evolution.

Espero que não tenha falado bobagem, é o eu que acredito, se tiver
outra solução, avisa ai que quero saber também.

Em 31 de maio de 2012 09:26, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br
mailto:cleberia...@yahoo.com.br escreveu:


Saudações.
Essa é a terceira vez que repito essa pergunta...
Nas outras 2 vezes ela caiu no limbo. Não obtive qualquer
resposta que tenha me ajudado. Por ser um problema recorrente,
acontece com outras pessoas também. Não sei se estou conseguindo
me fazer entender, mas vamos lá novamente...

Dessa vez estou tentando remover o Gimp com os comandos
aptitude remove gimp ou apt-get remove gimp e nos 2 casos
aparece a mensagem de que será removido o Gimp e o Gnome
Claro, não confirmo pois já fiz isso e foi removido todo o gnome
de meu desk.

Não é só com o gimp e nem é só em uma máquina que isso ocorre.
Alguém sabe me dizer porquê e como remover apenas um programa
sem remover todo o gnome

Obrigado.



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Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

2012-05-31 Thread Ednardo Lobo

Em 31-05-2012 09:26, Cleber Ianes escreveu:

aptitude remove gimp


Qual Debian está usando?

Uso aqui o 6.0.5 squeeze e se tento remover o pacote gimp, apenas os 
seguintes adicionais pacotes são removidos automaticamente:


gimp-data
libbabl-0.0-0
libgegl-0.0-0
libgimp2.0
libmng1
libopenraw1

A experiência que tenho com o Debian tem me mostrado que o gerenciamento 
de dependências é muito inteligente e eficiente. Porém, certas 
dependências as vezes podem parecer insensatas, talvez por não depender 
de escolhas do mantenedor do pacote, mas do desenvolvedor do software.


Por exemplo, em meu Debian, o pacote gnome depende do pacote 
evolution apesar do inverso parecer ser mais óbvio. Porém, pelo que 
pude compreender há algumas funcionalidades no gnome que utilizam 
bibliotecas do Evolution, por isto a necessidade desta amarração. O 
efeito colateral, é que apesar de não usar o Evolution, não posso 
removê-lo de meu sistema.


Talvez em futuras versões isso seja aperfeiçoado.

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VirtualBox no FluxBox

2012-05-31 Thread Célio Roberto
Alguém sabe dizer se o VirtualBox abre graficamente no FluxBox?
Baixei o pacote do VirtualBox, está instalado, mas ele não aparece nos
menus do FluxBox e também não consigo chamá-lo via terminal.




Célio


Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

2012-05-31 Thread Rodolfo
Eu nunca fiz esse teste, mas será que com o dpkg ele não remove só o Gimp ?


Abraços.

Em 31 de maio de 2012 09:56, Ednardo Lobo edna...@lobo.eti.br escreveu:

 Em 31-05-2012 09:26, Cleber Ianes escreveu:

 aptitude remove gimp


 Qual Debian está usando?

 Uso aqui o 6.0.5 squeeze e se tento remover o pacote gimp, apenas os
 seguintes adicionais pacotes são removidos automaticamente:

 gimp-data
 libbabl-0.0-0
 libgegl-0.0-0
 libgimp2.0
 libmng1
 libopenraw1

 A experiência que tenho com o Debian tem me mostrado que o gerenciamento
 de dependências é muito inteligente e eficiente. Porém, certas dependências
 as vezes podem parecer insensatas, talvez por não depender de escolhas do
 mantenedor do pacote, mas do desenvolvedor do software.

 Por exemplo, em meu Debian, o pacote gnome depende do pacote evolution
 apesar do inverso parecer ser mais óbvio. Porém, pelo que pude compreender
 há algumas funcionalidades no gnome que utilizam bibliotecas do Evolution,
 por isto a necessidade desta amarração. O efeito colateral, é que apesar de
 não usar o Evolution, não posso removê-lo de meu sistema.

 Talvez em futuras versões isso seja aperfeiçoado.

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Re: VirtualBox no FluxBox

2012-05-31 Thread Rodolfo
No blackbox eu insiro um menu configurando o arquivo blackbox-menu, que
fica em /etc/X11/blackbox, nem lembro,


Faz assim, instalou o virtualbox através de um repositorio debian ? se sim,
dpkg -l | grep virtual

Pega o nome do pacote, e digita dpkg -L PACOTE | less, e procura onde está
instalado o binário dele, achando, cria um link simbólico para /usr/bin,
desse jeito: *ln -s caminho completo do binario /usr/bin/*
**
Depois tenta executar como usuário normal pelo terminal.
**

Ou então logue como root e digite o inicio do programa virtu e aperte TAB
no teclado que talvez apareça os comandos que se iniciam com vitu.


Abraços.

Em 31 de maio de 2012 10:02, Célio Roberto celioc...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Alguém sabe dizer se o VirtualBox abre graficamente no FluxBox?
 Baixei o pacote do VirtualBox, está instalado, mas ele não aparece nos
 menus do FluxBox e também não consigo chamá-lo via terminal.




 Célio



Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

2012-05-31 Thread Rodolfo
Não tem 1 parametro do dpkg que força a remoção ?


Tenta assim e ve se ajuda:

dpkg --force-depends -r PACOTE


Abraços.

Em 31 de maio de 2012 12:13, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.brescreveu:

  Bem pensado, rsrs, tentativa feita
 Olha o resultado:
 *dpkg: problemas de dependência impedem a remoção de gimp:
 gnome depende de gimp (= 2.6).
 dpkg: erro processando gimp (--remove):
 problemas de dependência - não removendo
 Erros foram encontrados durante o processamento de:
  gimp*

 Também não deu!!!

   --
 *De:* Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com
 *Para:* Ednardo Lobo edna...@lobo.eti.br
 *Cc:* debian-user-portuguese debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 *Enviadas:* Quinta-feira, 31 de Maio de 2012 11:21
 *Assunto:* Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

  Eu nunca fiz esse teste, mas será que com o dpkg ele não remove só o
 Gimp ?


 Abraços.

 Em 31 de maio de 2012 09:56, Ednardo Lobo edna...@lobo.eti.br escreveu:

 Em 31-05-2012 09:26, Cleber Ianes escreveu:

 aptitude remove gimp


 Qual Debian está usando?

 Uso aqui o 6.0.5 squeeze e se tento remover o pacote gimp, apenas os
 seguintes adicionais pacotes são removidos automaticamente:

 gimp-data
 libbabl-0.0-0
 libgegl-0.0-0
 libgimp2.0
 libmng1
 libopenraw1

 A experiência que tenho com o Debian tem me mostrado que o gerenciamento
 de dependências é muito inteligente e eficiente. Porém, certas dependências
 as vezes podem parecer insensatas, talvez por não depender de escolhas do
 mantenedor do pacote, mas do desenvolvedor do software.

 Por exemplo, em meu Debian, o pacote gnome depende do pacote evolution
 apesar do inverso parecer ser mais óbvio. Porém, pelo que pude compreender
 há algumas funcionalidades no gnome que utilizam bibliotecas do Evolution,
 por isto a necessidade desta amarração. O efeito colateral, é que apesar de
 não usar o Evolution, não posso removê-lo de meu sistema.

 Talvez em futuras versões isso seja aperfeiçoado.

 --
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Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

2012-05-31 Thread Rodolfo
Tava procurando o manpages do DPKG aqui no trampo, aqui nao uso linux,
achei um traduzido pra te ajudar, tem a opção --force-all : Liga (ou
desliga) todas as opções de força.

so tome cuidado, ja to com medo, hehehehe


Segue o link pra te ajudar na remoção:

http://man.cx/dpkg(8)/pt


Abraços.

Em 31 de maio de 2012 14:53, Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Não tem 1 parametro do dpkg que força a remoção ?


 Tenta assim e ve se ajuda:

 dpkg --force-depends -r PACOTE


 Abraços.

 Em 31 de maio de 2012 12:13, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.brescreveu:

   Bem pensado, rsrs, tentativa feita
 Olha o resultado:
 *dpkg: problemas de dependência impedem a remoção de gimp:
 gnome depende de gimp (= 2.6).
 dpkg: erro processando gimp (--remove):
 problemas de dependência - não removendo
 Erros foram encontrados durante o processamento de:
  gimp*

 Também não deu!!!

   --
 *De:* Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com
 *Para:* Ednardo Lobo edna...@lobo.eti.br
 *Cc:* debian-user-portuguese debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 *Enviadas:* Quinta-feira, 31 de Maio de 2012 11:21
 *Assunto:* Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

  Eu nunca fiz esse teste, mas será que com o dpkg ele não remove só o
 Gimp ?


 Abraços.

 Em 31 de maio de 2012 09:56, Ednardo Lobo edna...@lobo.eti.br escreveu:

 Em 31-05-2012 09:26, Cleber Ianes escreveu:

 aptitude remove gimp


 Qual Debian está usando?

 Uso aqui o 6.0.5 squeeze e se tento remover o pacote gimp, apenas os
 seguintes adicionais pacotes são removidos automaticamente:

 gimp-data
 libbabl-0.0-0
 libgegl-0.0-0
 libgimp2.0
 libmng1
 libopenraw1

 A experiência que tenho com o Debian tem me mostrado que o gerenciamento
 de dependências é muito inteligente e eficiente. Porém, certas dependências
 as vezes podem parecer insensatas, talvez por não depender de escolhas do
 mantenedor do pacote, mas do desenvolvedor do software.

 Por exemplo, em meu Debian, o pacote gnome depende do pacote
 evolution apesar do inverso parecer ser mais óbvio. Porém, pelo que pude
 compreender há algumas funcionalidades no gnome que utilizam bibliotecas do
 Evolution, por isto a necessidade desta amarração. O efeito colateral, é
 que apesar de não usar o Evolution, não posso removê-lo de meu sistema.

 Talvez em futuras versões isso seja aperfeiçoado.

 --
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Re: Erro ao instalar smbclient

2012-05-31 Thread PROF. SILVERIO
Olá,
tive o mesmo problema a um tempo atrás, como faço um mapeamento dos
problemas, resolvi com o link abaixo.

ativando lenny-backports


http://www.hardware.com.br/tutoriais/debian-desktop/pagina3.html

abraços..



Em 30 de maio de 2012 11:37, Darley Rovaris da Silva
darle...@hotmail.comescreveu:

 libwbclient0




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Re: how are you kids compiling kernels these days?

2012-05-31 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Response coming from the Show Me State. ;)

On 5/30/2012 10:43 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:

 http://bugzilla.intellinuxwireless.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2346

Please note Pradeep's last remark after the to-do list:

Please let know if you need help.

He has far more experience with what he's instructing you to do than
likely everyone on the debian-users list combined, as he does it every
day.  And keep in mind he's the one asking you to do all this in the
first place.  Thus it makes sense to lean on him.

 This is a pretty serious request, I'm willing to try, but I wish
 somebody who has done this recently would share the experience.

Many of us build our own kernels.  But likely few build in out-of-tree
or experimental patches, which is what's being requested of you.

 I found this:
 
 http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage

That's a good reference, as is this:
http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html

But neither provide a perfect step-by-step guide for precisely what you
need to do here.  And as you've seen both were written assuming the
reader is using a standard (old) 2.6.x Debian kernel, not the much newer
3.2 testing kernel you're using.  And each was written many years ago,
and updated over time, which is why you'll see references to 2.6.18 and
2.6.26 as well as 2.6.32.

 its about rebuilding kernels in the 2.6 era. Are there problems in
 translating this to 3.2?  I can't even get out of the starting gate.
 How to apt-get the kernel source?

The steps will be mostly the same.  The file names, maybe some paths,
and make commands may be different.

 I'm running Debian testing.

Ok, good to know.

 How to get the kernel source?

First find what's available in your repo:

~$ aptitude search linux-source
...
p   linux-source-3.2  - Linux kernel source for version 3.2
with Debian patches

That's from a Squeeze box w/backports repo.  You should see something
similar with testing.

 Here's what I've got now:
 $ uname -r
 3.2.0-2-amd64
 
 $ dpkg -l | grep linux-image
 ii  linux-image-3.0.0-1-amd643.0.0-3
  Linux 3.0.0 for 64-bit PCs
 ii  linux-image-3.2.0-2-amd643.2.17-1
  Linux 3.2 for 64-bit PCs
 ii  linux-image-amd643.2+44
  Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package)

So you'll probably want to do this:

~$ aptitude install linux-source-3.2

That should get you the latest testing (Wheezy) kernel source, 3.2.18-1.
 You're at 3.2.17-1, not far behind.  I'd first ask Pradeep which kernel
version he wants you to apply his patch to, because you currently have
no kernel source on your machine.

It may be worth noting that this level of testing/debugging isn't
typically undertaken by anyone but software developers (kernel or
otherwise), or those non-dev users who spend a good deal of time
frequently building their own kernels.  I build my own stripped down
server kernels from vanilla source about 2-3 times a year and am
familiar with the process, and even I would need some hand holding
during this endeavor, mainly because I don't use modules.  Also note
these debugging exercises can turn into excessive time burners.

My advice, given your lack of recent experience with kernel building,
and the potential for time burn simply trying to learn what's needed to
get up to speed, would be to simply move back to the 3.0.1 kernel with
which your wireless apparently worked ok according to your bug report
entry, and leave the debugging of the more recent Intel driver code to
others.

If you understand what lay ahead of you and are comfortable with that,
soldier on.  If you do, it would be polite to inform Pradeep of your
limited experience in this area, so he understands what will be required
of him while moving forward on this with you.

Best of luck Paul.

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Re: how are you kids compiling kernels these days?

2012-05-31 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 5/31/2012 12:37 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:

 $ apt-get source linux-???

apt-get downloads files from repositories.  apt-cache search looks
through your downloaded package lists to find matches to your search
criteria.  Put simply, you're using the wrong command.  Search, find the
one you want, then install.

 I'm typing every conceivable combination of those package names and
 still get nothing.
 
 $ apt-get source linux-image-amd64

 finds me some downloads, but they are for kernel 2.6.

That should return an error, such as this, on Squeeze:

~$ apt-get source linux-image-amd64
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

 This one is really frustrating.

Spend some time with man aptitude.  Stop using the deprecated (mostly)
apt-get and related commands.  The problems you're experiencing right
now, confusing searching command with install commands, are one of the
reasons aptitude was created:  one package management command with
options and switches, instead of multiple commands for different functions.

 Is there a way to view which SOURCE packages are available in a Debian system?

Yes, as mentioned in my previous message, aptitude search linux-source

 On a RedHat style system, I'd go google the SRPM directory and know
 what to look for. In Debian, I still can't quite understand where the
 source packages are.

Because you're not yet familiar with the tools.  Again, man aptitude.

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Re: how are you kids compiling kernels these days?

2012-05-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Why don't you use the config of your Debian, but get the source from
kernel.org?

From a script I used with Debian/AVLinux:

#!/bin/sh
# sh rt4debian-av
[snip]
apt-get update
apt-get install fakeroot build-essential crash kexec-tools makedumpfile
kernel-package kernel-wedge
apt-get install libncurses5 libncurses5-dev libelf-dev asciidoc
binutils-dev
[snip]
 export CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=2
[snip]
 # config
 cp /boot/config-$(uname -r) .config
[snip]
 make oldconfig
[snip]
 # Building the kernel
 make-kpkg clean
 make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd kernel-image kernel-headers
[snip]
 # Installing new packages
 make-kpkg clean
 dpkg -i ../linux-image-${KERNEL_UNAME}_
${KERNEL_UNAME}-10.00.Custom_*.deb
 dpkg -i ../linux-headers-${KERNEL_UNAME}_
${KERNEL_UNAME}-10.00.Custom_*.deb
[snip]

You manually need to check if /lib/modules/[...]/build
and /lib/modules/[...]/source link to the headers.

- Ralf


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Re: Problem updating debian 6

2012-05-31 Thread David Seira
2012/5/30 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz:
 On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 09:31:03AM +0200, David Seira wrote:
 2012/5/29 Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com:
  On 18/05/12 17:13, David Seira wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm trying to update and upgrade a debian 6 system. I've run the
  aptitude update command and the output is:
 
  Des:1 http://ftp.es.debian.org squeeze Release.gpg [912 B]
  Des:2 http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/main Translation-en [912 B]
  99% [2 Translation-en bzip2 0] [Esperando las cabeceras] [Esperando las
  cabeceras]bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
 
 
  There is only one situation where I've seen the above errors - while
  using an older version of apt-cacher. Solution was to upgrade.
  If you're running apt-cacher disable it and see if the problems vanish.
 

 No, I'm not using apt-cacher.

 Does viewing http.log help after doing:


With the debug option the result was:

GET /debian/dists/squeeze/Release HTTP/1.1
Host: ftp.es.debian.org
Connection: keep-alive
Cache-Control: max-age=0
Range: bytes=911-
If-Range: Thu, 31 May 2012 07:15:02 GMT
User-Agent: Debian APT-HTTP/1.3 (0.8.10.3)


bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Content-Length: 912
Connection: Close

 apt-get update -o Debug::Acquire::http=true 2 http.log

 Also did you see my post about deleting what's in
 /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/?


Yes, I deleted the content of this directory and the result was the same.

 Resorting to dpkg without doing an apt-get update will quickly get
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Re: how are you kids compiling kernels these days?

2012-05-31 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi Paul,

Paul Johnson wrote:

 Now I've got a laptop with an Intel Centrino Ultimate 6300 wireless
 device and it has been very unstable when joining wireless networks. I
 complained about it in the intel wireless support page and today a
 technician answered me back with a kernel patch.

 http://bugzilla.intellinuxwireless.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2346

 This is a pretty serious request, I'm willing to try, but I wish
 somebody who has done this recently would share the experience.

I know two ways to do it.

One is to build from the official Debian packaging, as described at
http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html.
That page is pretty thorough, so I'll let it cover that itself.

Another way is to build the kernel from kernel.org, like so:

 0. prerequisites

apt-get install build-essential ketchup

 1. get the kernel

mkdir linux
cd linux
ketchup 3-rc

 2. configure and test

cp /boot/config-$(uname -r) .config; # current configuration

# optional: disable debugging symbols for a smaller build tree.
# This is almost always a good choice, unless you use systemtap
# or you use perf to profile the kernel.
scripts/config --disable DEBUG_INFO

# optional: minimize configuration by only including currently
# loaded modules.  Most modules that are not loaded are drivers
# for hardware you don't have.  Make sure your wireless driver
# is loaded if you've unloaded it.
make localmodconfig

make deb-pkg; # optionally with -jnum for parallel build

dpkg -i ../name of package; # as root
reboot
... test test test ...

Hopefully it reproduces the bug.  So:

 3. try the patch

cd linux
patch -p1 /path/to/the/patch
make deb-pkg; # maybe with -j2
dpkg -i ../name of package; # as root
reboot
... test test test ...

Thanks for your work, and hope that helps,
Jonathan


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Re: A quick Q: download source

2012-05-31 Thread Mika Suomalainen
On 29.05.2012 17:52, lina wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am under wheezy, when I use the apt-get source package
 I will get the wheezy version by default.
 
 What if I want to get the sid one, how can I do that without going to
 the debian webpage.
 
 Thanks with best regards,
 
 

I think that you can add deb-src line for Sid and then use apt-get
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Re: how are you kids compiling kernels these days?

2012-05-31 Thread Tom H
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Paul Johnson pauljoh...@gmail.com wrote:

 How to get the kernel source?

 $ apt-get source linux-3.2.0
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 E: Unable to find a source package for linux-3.2.0

 Seems like that ought to work. Or this:

 $ apt-get source linux-3.2.17
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 E: Unable to find a source package for linux-3.2.17

apt-cache search linux-source
aptitude search linux-source


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Re: how are you kids compiling kernels these days?

2012-05-31 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 31 May 2012 09:58:22 Tom H wrote:
 On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Paul Johnson pauljoh...@gmail.com wrote:
  How to get the kernel source?
 
  $ apt-get source linux-3.2.0
  Reading package lists... Done
  Building dependency tree
  Reading state information... Done
  E: Unable to find a source package for linux-3.2.0
 
  Seems like that ought to work. Or this:
 
  $ apt-get source linux-3.2.17
  Reading package lists... Done
  Building dependency tree
  Reading state information... Done
  E: Unable to find a source package for linux-3.2.17

 apt-cache search linux-source
 aptitude search linux-source

I have seen no mention of Paul's sources.list.  Surely it is not impossible 
for there to be an error there, even just a typo?

Lisi


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Re: GPT preseed [ almost solved ]

2012-05-31 Thread Tom H
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Darren Baginski kick...@yandex.com wrote:

 I've added lines below and got GPT on a empty 160GB hard drive. Thanks Tom!
 Need to understand which of them really needed.
 Will use your debugging hint for keymap selection.

 d-i partman-basicfilesystems/choose_label string gpt
 d-i partman-basicfilesystems/default_label string gpt
 d-i partman-partitioning/choose_label string gpt
 d-i partman-partitioning/default_label string gpt
 d-i partman/choose_label string gpt
 d-i partman/default_label string gpt
 partman-partitioning partman-partitioning/choose_label select gpt
 d-i partman-auto/expert_recipe string physics-workstation :: \
              32 32 32 free                                  \
                      $gptonly{ }                            \
                      $primary{ }                            \
                      $bios_boot{ }                          \
                      method{ biosgrub }                     \
              .                                              \
              16000 1000 16000 linux-swap                    \
                      $gptonly{ }                            \
                      $primary{ }                            \
                      method{ swap } format{ }               \
              .                                              \
              500 1000 -1 xfs                                \
                      $gptonly{ }                            \
                      $primary{ }                            \
                      method{ format } format{ }             \
                      use_filesystem{ } filesystem{ xfs }    \
                      mountpoint{ / }                        \
              .

You're welcome. It's good to know that a gpt label can be created via
preseed. :)

What's the output of parted -l /dev/sda or gdisk -l /dev/sda after
this install?

(BTW, you don't need the backslashes in the partitioning section -
although I think that you might need it after the ::.)


Re: how are you kids compiling kernels these days?

2012-05-31 Thread shawn wilson
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:


 I have seen no mention of Paul's sources.list.  Surely it is not impossible
 for there to be an error there, even just a typo?


not without apt spitting out an error with a 'run -f install to fix this'.

also, per a prior comment about grabbing the upstream - i'd only do
that after you find what all patches are applied to the debian kernel
(or at least know the reason behind debian putting them in). this will
make tracking down issues simpler.


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Re: how are you kids compiling kernels these days?

2012-05-31 Thread djbarney
I had the same problem. I had not built the kernel for about a decade. I
found the Debian kernel docs lacking. Linux Documentation Project does not
have a current guide. So I went back to the vanilla way of building and
started writing my own guide ...

http://stargate.djbarney.org/freelinking/Compiling%20the%20Linux%20Kernel

Barney Holmes

 I've not built LInux kernels since, well, 1999, when I ran RedHat
 linux (before EL existed).  I've compiled separate modules for the
 touchpad many times lately, but never a whole kernel.  And never on a
 Debian system.

 Now I've got a laptop with an Intel Centrino Ultimate 6300 wireless
 device and it has been very unstable when joining wireless networks. I
 complained about it in the intel wireless support page and today a
 technician answered me back with a kernel patch.

 http://bugzilla.intellinuxwireless.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2346

 This is a pretty serious request, I'm willing to try, but I wish
 somebody who has done this recently would share the experience.

 I found this:

 http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage

 its about rebuilding kernels in the 2.6 era. Are there problems in
 translating this to 3.2?  I can't even get out of the starting gate.
 How to apt-get the kernel source?

 I'm running Debian testing.

 How to get the kernel source?

 $ apt-get source linux-3.2.0
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 E: Unable to find a source package for linux-3.2.0

 Seems like that ought to work. Or this:

 $ apt-get source linux-3.2.17
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 E: Unable to find a source package for linux-3.2.17

 I've tried every variation I can think of.

 Here's what I've got now:
 $ uname -r
 3.2.0-2-amd64

 $ dpkg -l | grep linux-image
 ii  linux-image-3.0.0-1-amd643.0.0-3
  Linux 3.0.0 for 64-bit PCs
 ii  linux-image-3.2.0-2-amd643.2.17-1
  Linux 3.2 for 64-bit PCs
 ii  linux-image-amd643.2+44
  Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package)

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Re: Application for creating educational flash on Debian? - SOLVED

2012-05-31 Thread Jude DaShiell
Also, look for an application that can provide Section 508 compliant 
output which will be accessible to screen readers and whatever you 
produce with it will sell lots better in the educational arena.

On Wed, 30 May 2012, Weaver wrote:

 
  On Wed, 30 May 2012 21:13:48 +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:
 
  Csanyi Pal csanyi...@gmail.com writes:
 
  I'm searching such an application but didn't find any in debian
  repository.
 
  Well I still find Synfigstudio.
 
  For the sake of humanity, kindly reconsider another technology different
  than that flash thingy... don't feed the monster. Let it die.
 
 Agreed.
 When the rest of the educational/instructional design field are all
 gearing themselves for HTML5, why chase Flash?
 Even Adobe have given up development for mobile devices, which is where a
 lot of educational development is heading.
 Gear up for the future, not the past.
 Regards,
 
 Weaver.
 
 


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Re: how are you kids compiling kernels these days?

2012-05-31 Thread Tom H
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thursday 31 May 2012 09:58:22 Tom H wrote:
 On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Paul Johnson pauljoh...@gmail.com wrote:

 How to get the kernel source?

 $ apt-get source linux-3.2.0
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 E: Unable to find a source package for linux-3.2.0

 Seems like that ought to work. Or this:

 $ apt-get source linux-3.2.17
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 E: Unable to find a source package for linux-3.2.17

 apt-cache search linux-source
 aptitude search linux-source

 I have seen no mention of Paul's sources.list.  Surely it is not impossible
 for there to be an error there, even just a typo?

A good reminder to check the basics! :)


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Re: how are you kids compiling kernels these days?

2012-05-31 Thread Tom H
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 5:19 AM,  djbar...@djbarney.org wrote:

 I had the same problem. I had not built the kernel for about a decade. I
 found the Debian kernel docs lacking. Linux Documentation Project does not
 have a current guide. So I went back to the vanilla way of building and
 started writing my own guide ...

 http://stargate.djbarney.org/freelinking/Compiling%20the%20Linux%20Kernel

One of this list's regulars has a very good page:

http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm


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Re: how are you kids compiling kernels these days?

2012-05-31 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 00:37 -0500, Paul Johnson wrote:

[...]

 but they are for kernel 2.6. This one is really frustrating.
 
 $ apt-get source linux-image-3.2.0-2-amd64
[...]
 Picking 'linux-2.6' as source package instead of 'linux-image-3.2.0-2-amd64'
[...]
 Get:1 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing/main linux-2.6 3.2.18-1  (dsc) 
 [94.2 kB]

That is expected as the source package for 3.* kernels is, in fact,
linux-2.6.

In addition to the wiki page you found already there is also a chapter in the
wonderful new book on Debian system administration on kernel compilation [0]
and a slightly older chapter in the kernel handbook [1]. The latter also
discusses the application of patches [2]. It is typically also a good idea to
read the README.source in the source package.

I am not entirely sure which procedure to recommend as I had the impression
that make-kpkg wasn't the recommended way to build a kernel these days.

[0] http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.kernel-compilation.html
[1] http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/
[2] http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html#s4.2.3
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`free' in GNU and DSFG?

2012-05-31 Thread Hiroki Horiuchi
Hello.

I know at least GFDL documents are not `free' in DFSG.
In this respect, `free' in DFSG is narrower than the one in GNU.
Is there any reverse case?

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Re: how are you kids compiling kernels these days?

2012-05-31 Thread djbarney
Thanks ! Looks good. I have to add the part about make config to my
guide. I'm writing it as I proceed with my own kernel compile. My aim is
to make a guide that is accessible to Linux newbies while allowing them
access to the full advantages of building a custom kernel.

The clearest guide I have found so far that explains very well some of the
complex issues involved is  ...

Linux Kernel in a Nutshell O'Reilly book by Greg Kroah-Hartman (well known
Kernel developer) ...

http://www.kroah.com/lkn/ ... it can be downloaded for free off that page
(Creative Commons license), and it comes highly recommended.

Barney Holmes

 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 5:19 AM,  djbar...@djbarney.org wrote:

 I had the same problem. I had not built the kernel for about a decade. I
 found the Debian kernel docs lacking. Linux Documentation Project does
 not
 have a current guide. So I went back to the vanilla way of building and
 started writing my own guide ...

 http://stargate.djbarney.org/freelinking/Compiling%20the%20Linux%20Kernel

 One of this list's regulars has a very good page:

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Virtual interfaces and IPv4/IPv6

2012-05-31 Thread Stephan Seitz

Hi!

Since the upgrade of bridge-utils from 1.5-2 to 1.5-3 (testing) my bridge 
doesn’t get its IPv4 configuration anymore, only the IPv6 configuration.


While I may have found a workaround (I’ll test it tomorrow), I found bug 
#319832. It is quite old, but nothing has changed since then. I am 
wondering if we can get a solution into Wheezy since IPv6 gets more and 
more used.


So how do we configure a bridge or vlan interface with IPv4 and IPv6? The 
last version of ifupdown in testing needs still two stanzas (inet and 
inet6) instead of one (e.g. iface eth0 ip static, inet address …, inet6 
address …). So I need „iface xenbr0 inet static” and „iface xenbr0 inet6 
static” stanzas. Which stanza should contain the bridge or VLAN 
configuration?  Until the upgrade the bridge configuration was added to 
both stanzas which produced an error but was working.


The bug report mentions that ip could handle VLAN and bridge 
configuration itself, but the vlan and bridge-utils packages are still 
available.


So what are the future plans? It would be great as well if I could 
de-/configure a part of an interface (e.g. IPv6 while keeping the IPv4 
settings), maybe with „ifdown eth0 inet6”?


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Re: redundant memcached's for php sessions

2012-05-31 Thread Frank Van Damme
2012/5/31 Frank Van Damme frank.vanda...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 I'm trying to run memcached in a redundant fashion. I installed the
 php5-memcache module and installed memcached on two different hosts.
 It all works pretty well as long as both memcached's stay up and
 running. If I shut down one, I'm getting segfaults on the server on
 pages that start sessions.

 [Thu May 31 01:31:43 2012] [notice] child pid 11941 exit signal
 Segmentation fault (11)

 I'm using this configuration as php memcache configuration:

 memcache.hash_strategy=consistent
 memcache.allow_failover=1
 memcache.redundancy=1
 memcache.session_redundancy=2

 ... which logically should write all session data to two nodes and
 fail over between memcache nodes (ie, read from the second node if the
 first goes down). I can't pinpoint why I'm getting crashes instead of
 failover.

Well. I removed the package and compiled version 2.2.6 from source,
which doesn't crash but Apache saves the session on only one server.
Pretty weird. So, I guess I'll have to work around it with repcached
or something?


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Re: `free' in GNU and DSFG?

2012-05-31 Thread Aubrey Raech
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On Thu, 31 May 2012 19:42:58 +0900
Hiroki Horiuchi x19...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello.
 
 I know at least GFDL documents are not `free' in DFSG.
 In this respect, `free' in DFSG is narrower than the one in GNU.
 Is there any reverse case?
 
 Thank you in advance.
 --
 Hiroki Horiuchi from Japan
 
 

Aha! You seem to be referring to Debian's decision about the GFDL
concerning invariant sections. The Debian position statement about this
can be found at [1]. Because of this, packages like gcc-doc and some
emacs documentation (emacs23-common-non-dfsg) are separated into the
non-free repositories.

Concerning 'free': some do not consider documentation to be software,
which is why distributions such as gNewSense (which claim to be 100%
free-software) do include these without labeling them non-free.

I do appreciate that Debian separates out the free and non-free, as
decided by their goals and guidelines, but up until the release of
Squeeze in 2011 this was hypocritical. Before Squeeze, there were
portions of the Linux kernel that were non-free, and at that time these
were included in the main Linux kernel package used with Debian. 
At this point, Debian began to separate out the free/non-free portions,
announced in paragraph #5 here [3]. Other projects had already
recognized this problem before, and had adopted the Linux-libre [4]
kernel. Now there is not need for a linux-libre package in Debian
because the main kernel respects the DFSG and non-free components
have their own package.

To answer your question, I do not believe that the reverse is true
anymore, though until recently there was some hypocrisy with the DFSG
and their application. Debian is not foolish, however, and
understands that some users will need non-free software packages, at
least for very basic functionality (non-free firmware). So, Debian
*does* provide some non-free packages to users, but these are clearly
labeled as non-free and users must explicitly request their
installation by changing their sources.list file. I for one like the
'non-free' Emacs documentation, and do have it installed on an
otherwise DFSG-respecting system.

I hope that this has cleared up your question regarding this.

[1] http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.xhtml
[2] http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
[3] http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110205a
[4] http://www.fsfla.org/svnwiki/selibre/linux-libre/index.en.html

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Re: Re (4): Dying Iceweasel.

2012-05-31 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 30 May 2012 14:42:44 -0800, peter wrote:

 From: Camaleon noela...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 20:28:29 + (UTC)
 You know that Debian released versions do not get updates for their
 programs ... Iceweasel and Icedove ... live in a special repository
 (backports).
 
 The 3.5 Icedove must have been the best choice when Squeeze was frozen.

Yes, Squeeze (6.0.5) included iceweasel 3.5.16.

 By the way, the header in your reply doesn't have an In-reply-to field.
 Not that it should be needed; being redundant to the last id of the
 References.  That is sufficient for the debian list manager to make the
 thread.

Mmm, yes, you're right. Let's see how this post goes out (I've just 
tweaked a setting within Pan).

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Re: how are you kids compiling kernels these days?

2012-05-31 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 30 May 2012 22:43:21 -0500, Paul Johnson wrote:

 I've not built LInux kernels since, well, 1999, when I ran RedHat linux
 (before EL existed).  I've compiled separate modules for the touchpad
 many times lately, but never a whole kernel.  And never on a Debian
 system.
 
 Now I've got a laptop with an Intel Centrino Ultimate 6300 wireless
 device and it has been very unstable when joining wireless networks. I
 complained about it in the intel wireless support page and today a
 technician answered me back with a kernel patch.
 
 http://bugzilla.intellinuxwireless.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2346
 
 This is a pretty serious request, I'm willing to try, but I wish
 somebody who has done this recently would share the experience.

(...)

What I do is getting the kernel source from Debian (or upstream 
www.kernel.org) and then apply the patches (patch -p1  file.patch), 
then run make to build the modules (make /net/wireless/) or if that 
fails, you can compile the full kernel with a minimal set of modules by 
using localmodconfig to generate the .config file.

 I found this:
 
 http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage

I used to follow this one:

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s06.html.en

Although it needs some tweaks but basically works pretty well.

 its about rebuilding kernels in the 2.6 era. Are there problems in
 translating this to 3.2?  I can't even get out of the starting gate. How
 to apt-get the kernel source?
 
 I'm running Debian testing.
 
 How to get the kernel source?

(...)

You can also grab it manually:

http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_3.2.18.orig.tar.gz

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Re: `free' in GNU and DSFG?

2012-05-31 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 31 May 2012 19:42:58 +0900, Hiroki Horiuchi wrote:

 I know at least GFDL documents are not `free' in DFSG. In this respect,
 `free' in DFSG is narrower than the one in GNU. Is there any reverse
 case?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Free_Software_Guidelines#GFDL

If by reverse you mean a case sample of we being less restrictive, 
well, the fact of having contrib and non-oss repositories available 
for packages that don't comply with the FSF and even with our own 
guidelines is a good signal that demonstrate an openness outlook.

Anyway, you can also query about this at debian-legal mailing list:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/

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Re: Improve leafnode

2012-05-31 Thread daniele.g
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:


[...]

 Ppp only triggers when a ppp* interface goes up. 

 When there's a Internet connection (dial-up, ppp dsl, umts...) in place, 
 right?

Right, the script /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/leafnode triggers when ppp0 is
established. 

 I'd like to make it more general. 

 More general in what way, exactly? What kind of scenario do you have in 
 mind? I ask because your suggestion (if found useful by the package 
 maintainers) could be also added in the Debian package without needing to 
 use to a sed script or something like that.

In few words: a system wide cronjob already, periodically (every hour),
tests if leafnode is configured in PPP or permanent mode. If PPP it skips
over, if permament fetchnews is launched. I set it as PPP because I
don't want my syslog flooded with error messages about missing
connection.

[1] /etc/cron.d/leafnode
--8---cut here---start-8---
# Cron entries for Leafnode.
# Run /etc/news/leafnode/do-fetch-news every hour.
8 * * * *  news if [ -x /etc/news/leafnode/do-fetch-news ]; then 
/etc/news/leafnode/do-fetch-news; fi
--8---cut here---end---8---

[2] /etc/news/leafnode/do-fetch-news
--8---cut here---start-8---
# Get configuration
. /etc/news/leafnode/debian-config

...

# Get new news.
if [ $NETWORK = permanent -a -x /usr/sbin/fetchnews ]; then
   /usr/sbin/fetchnews
fi
--8---cut here---end---8---

I think it could be smarter.

 A solution I'm working on is a script which use sed to toggle $NETWORK
 between PPP and permanent when the laptop is online, I only would like
 to know how to run this script from inside interfaces

 I'm not sure if that would work as you expect given the way it is 
 configured now because the service has been already started so in order 
 to alter the $NETWORK variable you'll have to restart or reload the 
 leafnode service every time that variable changes, is that what you 
 want? :-?

No, but please note that $NETWORK variable is read every time that the
cronjob starts, at worst I will have a one hour lag.

 Anyway, you can take a look at the networking docs:

 Http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_scripting_with_the_ifupdown_system

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Re: Slow tape read-write after upgrade

2012-05-31 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 29 May 2012 16:33:55 +0400, Yury O. Tabolin wrote:

 I had a server with Debian Lenny x64, with the old kernel 2.6.18 (it is
 still from Etch). I upgraded all to Squeeze, with the native kernel
 2.6.32. Everything worked well except the tape library HP StorageWorks
 MSL 4048 Ultrium 960, connected to it via SCSI Megaraid 320-2x. It has
 become very slow. If I had read/write speeds were about 40MB/s before
 upgrade, now they are reduced to 1.5 MB/s. When the module st is
 loaded i have a error:
 
 [1186434.533759] st: Version 20081215, fixed bufsize 32768, s/g segs 256
 [1186434.535595] st 2:1:4:0: Attached scsi tape st0 
 [1186434.535619] st 2:1:4:0: st0: try direct i/o: yes (alignment 4 B) 
 [1186435.276372] scsi_id[774]: segfault at 0 ip (null) sp ffdff520 
 error 14
 [1186435.953466] scsi_id[777]: segfault at 0 ip (null) sp ffa00a20 
 error 14

(...)

st kernel module seems to be segfaulting. I would try to reproduce the 
error from a clean Squeeze installation to discard a problem coming from 
the upgrade and if it's still present, I'd report it in BTS.

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Re: `free' in GNU and DSFG?

2012-05-31 Thread rjc
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 04:00:39PM BST, Camaleón wrote:
 If by reverse you mean a case sample of we being less restrictive, 
 well, the fact of having contrib and non-oss repositories available 
  ^^^
Obviously that should be non-free.

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Re: Improve leafnode

2012-05-31 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 31 May 2012 17:10:18 +0200, daniele.g wrote:

 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:
 
 I'd like to make it more general.

 More general in what way, exactly? What kind of scenario do you have in
 mind? I ask because your suggestion (if found useful by the package
 maintainers) could be also added in the Debian package without needing
 to use to a sed script or something like that.
 
 In few words: a system wide cronjob already, periodically (every hour),
 tests if leafnode is configured in PPP or permanent mode. If PPP it
 skips over, if permament fetchnews is launched. I set it as PPP because
 I don't want my syslog flooded with error messages about missing
 connection.

(...)

I see. You can join this bug report and expose your suggestions there:

leafnode: Cron job could be smarter.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=652028

The more you are requesting for the same (or similar) feature to be added, 
the better :-)

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Re: Virtual interfaces and IPv4/IPv6

2012-05-31 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 03:12:25PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:
 Since the upgrade of bridge-utils from 1.5-2 to 1.5-3 (testing) my
 bridge doesn’t get its IPv4 configuration anymore, only the IPv6
 configuration.
...
 So what are the future plans? It would be great as well if I could
 de-/configure a part of an interface (e.g. IPv6 while keeping the
 IPv4 settings), maybe with „ifdown eth0 inet6”?

Note sure if this will help, but have you tried the latest ifupdown
from unstable (1.7.0).  It should bring a number of improvements,
including having v4/v6 addresses in the same stanza, IIRC.


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Header fields required for threading in lists.debian.org; was Dying Iceweasel.

2012-05-31 Thread peter
CamaleA3n,

From:   Camaleon noela...@gmail.com
Date:   Thu, 31 May 2012 14:11:05 + (UTC)
 Let's see how this post goes out (I've just tweaked a setting within Pan).

According to the principle avoid redundant information, leaving 
your mailer configured to not send In-reply-to is preferable.

Also helpful to know when I come to upgrading the Oberon mailer.

Thanks,  ... Peter E.


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Re: `free' in GNU and DSFG?

2012-05-31 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 31 May 2012 16:48:30 +0100, rjc wrote:

 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 04:00:39PM BST, Camaleón wrote:
 If by reverse you mean a case sample of we being less restrictive,
 well, the fact of having contrib and non-oss repositories available
   ^^^
 Obviously that should be non-free.

Oops, sorry. That was openSUSE parlance.

(it's incredible; despite I migrated from openSUSE to Debian ~3 years ago 
I still have it surrounding my mind :-o)

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Re: x11 intel graphics card conf

2012-05-31 Thread Filipe Freire
solved thanks.

need linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 from normal repository and X from
backports.

Filipe

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 On Ma, 29 mai 12, 13:12:19, Filipe Freire wrote:
 Dear All!

 I am running debian squeeze on a PC with intel i5 and graphics card:
 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge Integrated
 Graphics Controller (rev 09)

 You need the kernel and X from backports. This was discussed on
 debian-backports list, you can search the archives if you need more
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Re: Virtual interfaces and IPv4/IPv6

2012-05-31 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 04:51:22PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:

Note sure if this will help, but have you tried the latest ifupdown
from unstable (1.7.0).  It should bring a number of improvements,
including having v4/v6 addresses in the same stanza, IIRC.


The latest ifupdown in testing/unstable is 0.7~rc3. And I don’t see 
a newer version in experimental.
According to „man interfaces” the current version uses separate stanzas 
for IPv4 and IPv6.


Shade and sweet water!

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Re: Application for creating educational flash on Debian? - SOLVED

2012-05-31 Thread Csanyi Pal
Hi all,

Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net writes:

 Also, look for an application that can provide Section 508 compliant 
 output which will be accessible to screen readers and whatever you 
 produce with it will sell lots better in the educational arena.

 On Wed, 30 May 2012, Weaver wrote:

 
  On Wed, 30 May 2012 21:13:48 +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:
 
  Csanyi Pal csanyi...@gmail.com writes:
 
  I'm searching such an application but didn't find any in debian
  repository.
 
  Well I still find Synfigstudio.
 
  For the sake of humanity, kindly reconsider another technology different
  than that flash thingy... don't feed the monster. Let it die.
 
 Agreed.
 When the rest of the educational/instructional design field are all
 gearing themselves for HTML5, why chase Flash?
 Even Adobe have given up development for mobile devices, which is where a
 lot of educational development is heading.
 Gear up for the future, not the past.

OK

I'm open for any technology that can be used to put tutorials, etc onto
a _webpage_ and has some _interactivity_ too. 

The Tupi version installable on Debian Wheezy doesn't have Text support,
so one can't insert text yet.

LibreOffice Impress may be used for this and I shell try it out.

However if there are the right applications for such purpose I wish to
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Re: Header fields required for threading in lists.debian.org; was Dying Iceweasel.

2012-05-31 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 31 May 2012 08:40:38 -0800, peter wrote:

 CamaleA3n,
 
 From: Camaleon noela...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 14:11:05 + (UTC)
 Let's see how this post goes out (I've just tweaked a setting within
 Pan).
 
 According to the principle avoid redundant information, leaving your
 mailer configured to not send In-reply-to is preferable.
 
 Also helpful to know when I come to upgrading the Oberon mailer.

Okay. Anyway, my tweak had no effect and now I know why:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=426149

Most probably my Pan version (0.132) still has that bug.

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Re: Virtual interfaces and IPv4/IPv6

2012-05-31 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 06:15:44PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:
 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 04:51:22PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
 Note sure if this will help, but have you tried the latest ifupdown
 from unstable (1.7.0).  It should bring a number of improvements,
 including having v4/v6 addresses in the same stanza, IIRC.
 
 The latest ifupdown in testing/unstable is 0.7~rc3. And I don’t see
 a newer version in experimental.
 According to „man interfaces” the current version uses separate
 stanzas for IPv4 and IPv6.

Sorry, meant 0.7 (I uploaded 0.7 last night, but it seems to not have
worked, since ~rc3 is still around; I'll check when I get home).
I thought this was supposed to be one of the new features, sorry if
I was mistaken.

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Re: Virtual interfaces and IPv4/IPv6

2012-05-31 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 05:25:42PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
[ifupdown]

I thought this was supposed to be one of the new features, sorry if
I was mistaken.


Maybe it is, but it’s not documented? At least I didn’t find anything in 
the changelog.


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Re: Application for creating educational flash on Debian? - SOLVED

2012-05-31 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 31 May 2012 18:24:15 +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:

 OK
 
 I'm open for any technology that can be used to put tutorials, etc onto
 a _webpage_ and has some _interactivity_ too.

html5+ajax (css+dom+javascript) will do the job quite nicely.
 
 The Tupi version installable on Debian Wheezy doesn't have Text support,
 so one can't insert text yet.
 
 LibreOffice Impress may be used for this and I shell try it out.
 
 However if there are the right applications for such purpose I wish to
 know for those.

Today there has to be full-featured GUI based frameworks to develop RIA 
apps. Wikipedia has an extensive list, although they can be overwhelming 
if you only require a basic multimedia interactivity:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rich_Internet_application_frameworks

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Re: Virtual interfaces and IPv4/IPv6

2012-05-31 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 31 May 2012 15:12:25 +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:

 Since the upgrade of bridge-utils from 1.5-2 to 1.5-3 (testing) my
 bridge doesn’t get its IPv4 configuration anymore, only the IPv6
 configuration.
 
 While I may have found a workaround (I’ll test it tomorrow), I found bug
 #319832. It is quite old, but nothing has changed since then. I am
 wondering if we can get a solution into Wheezy since IPv6 gets more and
 more used.

It seems to be documented in the man page:

http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=bridge-utils-interfacesapropos=0sektion=0manpath=Debian+testing+%28wheezy%29format=htmllocale=en

(...) Multiple stanzas of a bridge definition are currently not 
supported, so if you want to add a ipv6 and a ipv4 to a bridge do it all 
in one definition by using the up option. If however you still want to 
use  multiple stanzas or would like to read more on this bug you can see 
it at http://bugs.debian.org/319832;

 So how do we configure a bridge or vlan interface with IPv4 and IPv6?

(...)

There should be a workaround in the bug you (and the man page) mentioned.

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Re: Virtual interfaces and IPv4/IPv6

2012-05-31 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 05:27:40PM +, Camaleón wrote:

It seems to be documented in the man page:
http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=bridge-utils-interfacesapropos=0sektion=0manpath=Debian+testing+%28wheezy%29format=htmllocale=en


Ah, yes, I see it now. I looked in the section bugs/limitations. ;-)
But the bug number is the same I quoted, and it is from 2005. That’s why 
I asked if there are any plans to fix it for Wheezy (best way in 
ifupdown), because today it may hit more people.


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Re: [OT] Re: mp280

2012-05-31 Thread steef

hi camaleon and others of course,

i installed printer-drivers for the pixma mp280 from a new zealand sit; and 
the scanner drivers too. the mp280_printer is now working well, but squeeze 
cannot find

 the scanner drivers so xsane sys 'no', do it yourself' and is driving me 
insane.

my question: how can i tell xsane where to find the scanner driver; by ln -s 
or something like that. i go on looking myself further too of course


many regards,

steef




Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 28 May 2012 19:21:52 +0200, steef wrote:


Camaleón wrote:

On Sun, 27 May 2012 14:56:39 +0200, steef wrote:


Camaleón wrote:

On Sun, 27 May 2012 08:36:06 +0200, steef wrote:


thank you, lisi and camaleon. and, calameon: was that elven maiden
galadriel?


Nope... but I let you one more try (hey, don't look at the Internet!)
;-)



arwen 


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Re: Only 3.6gb of 64gb RAM recognized by 64bit squeeze

2012-05-31 Thread Seyyed Mohtadin Hashemi
On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 20:18 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 On 5/30/2012 8:55 AM, Seyyed Mohtadin Hashemi wrote:
  On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 15:48 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
  On 5/29/2012 4:08 PM, Seyyed Mohtadin Hashemi wrote:
  On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 21:26 +0200, Seyyed Mohtadin Hashemi wrote:
  On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Stan Hoeppner
  s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote:
  On 5/15/2012 12:26 PM, Seyyed Mohtadin Hashemi wrote:
   On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
  h...@debian.org
   wrote:
  
   On Mon, 14 May 2012, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
   On 5/13/2012 7:02 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
   On Fri, 11 May 2012, Seyyed Mohtadin Hashemi wrote:
   On 5/10/2012 1:16 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
   If this doesn't fix the issue, and memtest and other
  utils can see
   all
   64GB just fine, then I'd say you're dealing with a BIOS
  bug.
  
   The very top of /var/log/dmesg has the kernel debug
  output about the
   memory
   map.  It might well tell us very quickly who is the
  culprit, if the
   user
   with the problem can post it for the best working case
  and the
   non-working
   [0.00] e820 update range: e000 -
  00101f00
   (usable) == (reserved)
   [0.00] WARNING: BIOS bug: CPU MTRRs don't cover
  all of memory,
   losing 61936MB of RAM.
  
   There you have it.
  
   I'm not surprised I was correct WRT a BIOS bug, but I am a
  little
   embarrassed I didn't know and suggest this would be
  reported in dmesg.
   I admit I just don't see this very often--this being the
  1st time
   actually seeing this WARNING.
  
   Well, it is the first time I've seen a BIOS screw it up so
  badly as to
   have someone lose 61GiB of RAM over it.
  
   Any of the latest versions of the longterm kernels
  (2.6.32, 3.0), or
   latest 3.2 should be able to repair MTRRs properly, but
  you have to
   compile the kernel with that option enabled.  It might be
  already
   available, but not enabled by default.  In that case,
  this might help
   you:
  
   Yep.  In vanilla 3.2.6 it's selected by default in
  menuconfig, and you
   can't un-select it.
  
   We _really_ need to have that enabled by default on the
  Debian kernels
   IMO, if we don't enable it already.
  
   --
One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One
  disk to bring
them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of
  Redmond
where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
Henrique Holschuh
  
  
   Thank you for the tips Henrique and Stan, unfortunately i
  don't have time
   to build/test new kernels this week because i have to finish
  my thesis. I
   will have time next week to look at it and report back the
  results.
  
  
  In that case you could simply install the latest backport
  kernel image
  and see if that does the trick.  Should be quick 'n painless.
  
  Add to /etc/apt/sources.list
  deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports
  squeeze-backports \
  main contrib non-free
  
  $ aptitude update
  $ aptitude -t squeeze-backports install
  linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64
  $ shutdown -r now
  
  Should take less than 5 minutes.
  
  --
  Stan
  
 
  Funny you should mention that, I did actually try the exact kernel you
  mentioned yesterday - it did not go well, i got kernel panic. I didn't
  do many tests because i didn't have much time, i went back to the old
  kernel, and though i'm not happy with the situation the computer at
  least works and i can use the CPU to do calculations.
 
 
  Hi Stan,
 
  I RMA'd the MB and with the replacement I received I am able to run the
  3.2 kernel and all installed RAM is usable. However, I have to use
  noapic irqpoll acpi=force boot flags.
 
  Needing some boot flags with some main boards isn't uncommon.  And in
  fact using various boot flags used to be (maybe still is) needed to get
  Linux VMs running properly on VMWare ESX, specifically the system clock.
   So the boot flags are just a bare metal hardware issue.
 
  I did have a small problem, sometimes I would get RAM R/W test fail at
  BIOS POST. I had done extensive memtest on the DIMMs earlier so I only
  tested if the individual DIMMs could POST, only one gave 

Re: Intel 82830 in motion computing slate

2012-05-31 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 5/31/2012 12:10 PM, Michael Aldridge wrote:
 I went ahead and retried disabling mode setting with grub, but still no 
 graphics.  I am correct in thinking that it should be on tty6 right?  the KDM 
 definitely thinks it is running, but I can't seem to find it.

Please reply to the list or reply to all.  Others on the list have far
more experience with this than me.  I simply was the first to reply.

-- 
Stan


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SOLVED: Only 3.6gb of 64gb RAM recognized by 64bit squeeze

2012-05-31 Thread Seyyed Mohtadin Hashemi
Summary:
Debian Squeeze 64-bit was not able to use more than 3.6GB RAM. Linux
showed the problem as MTRR not covering all available RAM. 
MTRR problems can be fixed by kernel if MTRR repair is enabled, e.g. in
the 3.2 kernel. However, the using the backported 3.2 kernel resulted in
kernel panic. 

As RAM had been tested extensively with memtest, the problem was
hypothesized to be because of faulty motherboard or BIOS. 
One RMA of MB later, and everything is working with the 3.2 kernel and
noapic irqpoll acpi=force boot flags.

I did have a small problem: Sometimes I would get RAM R/W test fail at
BIOS POST. I tested if the individual DIMMs could POST, only one gave
the RAM R/W test fail. After removing the 'faulty' DIMM + a healthy
DIMM, the system works smoothly. I have not had time to test the
'faulty' DIMM in another computer yet to see if it really is faulty.

Thank you all for your help!


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