date:20140603

El Mon, 02 Jun 2014 21:29:17 -0430, Andrew Pollard escribió:

(ese html...)

 Hola a todos. Necesito un poco de ayuda con lo siguiente. Tengo estas 4
 lineas en rc.local, pero la última linea que he añadido nunca lo
 ejecuta, y no se por qué, debería ejecutarse sin problemas porque se
 ejecuta perfectamente en el terminal. Estas son las lineas que tengo en
 rc.local:
 
 sleep 100 iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.10.0.0/16 -o wlan0 -j
 MASQUERADE hostapd /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf
 
 x11vnc -bg -passwd 7celtic7 -forever #esta es la linea que nunca se
 llega a ejecutar
 
 exit 0
 
 Esa linea de x11vnc con esos parámetros quiere decir que se ejecute en
 segundo plano, con la clave 7celtic7, y el parámetro -forever quiere
 decir que siempre este abierto, que nunca se cierre. Se ejecuta
 perfectamente en el terminal pero no he podido lograr que se ejecute
 automáticamente en el inicio del sistema. He investigado y aún no he
 conseguido una solución. Mi sistema es un Debian 7 con solo LXDE.

Quizá sea porque se ejecute demasiado pronto y x11vnc necesita que el 
servidor gráfico esté iniciado para poder trabajar aunque veo que tienes 
un sleep pero quizá no sea suficiente. Prueba a incluirlo como un script 
de inicio del entorno gráfico, aprovechando algún tipo de sistema 
lanzadera -autostart- que tengas en tu DE o con un archivo ~/.xsession, 
etc...)

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Re: [OT] WARNING: Using TrueCrypt is not secure as it may contain unfixed security issues

El Tue, 03 Jun 2014 11:39:16 +0200, Gerardo Diez García escribió:

 El 03/06/14 09:54, Sergio Villalba escribió:
 http://www. http://www.truecrypt.orgtruecrypt.org
 http://www.truecrypt.org
 
 http://truecrypt.sourceforge.net/
 
 
 http://www.genbeta.com/seguridad/truecrypt-y-su-misteriosa-desaparicion

Sí, la noticia lleva unos días coleando por la red (Slashdot, Reddit, Ars 
Technica...). Lo último que sé es que aún no se sabe nada claro.

 La historia esta me ha dejado un poco fuera de juego pero parece que ya
 hay intenciones de mantener el proyecto forqueado y hospedado en Suiza
 (http://truecrypt.ch/). Parece más una cuestión de donde se aloja el
 proyecto que un problema de seguridad, pero en estos temas mejor que
 cada uno se haga su propia imagen.

Yo también lo uso e igualmente estoy esperando alguna reacción oficial. 
Es un poco raro, la verdad, pero no pinta nada bien. Ya no te puedes fiar 
de nada ni de nadie :-/

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Configuración de logrotate

2014-06-03 Thread Mauro Antivero

Estimados, tengo la siguiente estructura de logs, donde año, mes y día 
son por supuesto los números correspondiente al año, mes y día:


/var/log/rsyslog/año/mes/día/HostX/ProgramaY.log

Osea que separo por fecha (año/mes/día), por host y finalmente por el 
programa que está generando el log (cron, ssh, snmp, etc.). Pongo un 
ejemplo para que se entienda un poco mejor:


/var/log/rsyslog/2014/06-03/Host_A/ssh.log
/var/log/rsyslog/2014/06-03/Host_A/snmp.log
/var/log/rsyslog/2014/06-03/Host_A/cron.log
/var/log/rsyslog/2014/06-03/Host_A/kernel.log

/var/log/rsyslog/2014/06-03/Host_B/ssh.log
/var/log/rsyslog/2014/06-03/Host_B/snmp.log
/var/log/rsyslog/2014/06-03/Host_B/cron.log
/var/log/rsyslog/2014/06-03/Host_B/kernel.log

Y así para todos los días y todos los hosts.

Lo que quiero hacer ahora es configurar logrotate para que rote y 
comprima los logs semanal o mensualmente, pero respetando la estructura 
de directorios. Es decir, que me genere los archivos comprimidos en la 
misma ruta en la cual están los archivos originales. Se puede hacer esto?


Estoy leyendo pero hasta ahora los ejemplos que vi son para una 
configuración tradicional donde uno tiene todos los logs en /var/log sin 
separar por directorios como estoy haciendo yo, así que estoy medio 
confundido.


Como siempre, les agradecería mucho su ayuda.

Saludos, Mauro.


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Re: Configuración de logrotate

El Tue, 03 Jun 2014 13:16:24 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió:

 Estimados, tengo la siguiente estructura de logs, donde año, mes y día
 son por supuesto los números correspondiente al año, mes y día:
 
 /var/log/rsyslog/año/mes/día/HostX/ProgramaY.log
 
 Osea que separo por fecha (año/mes/día), por host y finalmente por el
 programa que está generando el log (cron, ssh, snmp, etc.). Pongo un
 ejemplo para que se entienda un poco mejor:

(...)

Entendido.
 
 Y así para todos los días y todos los hosts.
 
 Lo que quiero hacer ahora es configurar logrotate para que rote y
 comprima los logs semanal o mensualmente, pero respetando la estructura
 de directorios. Es decir, que me genere los archivos comprimidos en la
 misma ruta en la cual están los archivos originales. Se puede hacer
 esto?
 
 Estoy leyendo pero hasta ahora los ejemplos que vi son para una
 configuración tradicional donde uno tiene todos los logs en /var/log sin
 separar por directorios como estoy haciendo yo, así que estoy medio
 confundido.

En principio no veo el problema más allá de decirle a logrotate lo que 
necesitas pata cada almacén, por ejemplo:

/var/log/rsyslog/año/mes/día/HostX/*.log
{ 
blah
blah
bla
} 

Que iría dentro del archivo /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog sin reemplazar el 
resto de entradas que tiene definidas para los mensajes del sistema o 
creando un nuevo archivo de configuración (p. ej., /etc/logrotate.d/
remotersyslog) dedicado para la gestión de los registros remotos.

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Re: Configuración de logrotate

2014-06-03 Thread Mauro Antivero


El 03/06/14 13:31, Camaleón escribió:

El Tue, 03 Jun 2014 13:16:24 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió:


Estimados, tengo la siguiente estructura de logs, donde año, mes y día
son por supuesto los números correspondiente al año, mes y día:

/var/log/rsyslog/año/mes/día/HostX/ProgramaY.log

Osea que separo por fecha (año/mes/día), por host y finalmente por el
programa que está generando el log (cron, ssh, snmp, etc.). Pongo un
ejemplo para que se entienda un poco mejor:

(...)

Entendido.
  

Y así para todos los días y todos los hosts.

Lo que quiero hacer ahora es configurar logrotate para que rote y
comprima los logs semanal o mensualmente, pero respetando la estructura
de directorios. Es decir, que me genere los archivos comprimidos en la
misma ruta en la cual están los archivos originales. Se puede hacer
esto?

Estoy leyendo pero hasta ahora los ejemplos que vi son para una
configuración tradicional donde uno tiene todos los logs en /var/log sin
separar por directorios como estoy haciendo yo, así que estoy medio
confundido.

En principio no veo el problema más allá de decirle a logrotate lo que
necesitas pata cada almacén, por ejemplo:

/var/log/rsyslog/año/mes/día/HostX/*.log
{
blah
blah
bla
}
Gracias, en gran parte me aclaraste el panorama, pero (siempre hay uno) 
fijate que ahí la regla que ponés a modo de ejemplo contiene de manera 
estática el año, el mes, el día y el host. Como los host no son una 
cantidad exagerada podría crear una regla para cada uno de ellos, 
teniendo que recordar que cuando agregue un nuevo host debería de 
agregar la regla correspondiente, pero con la fecha como hago?


No hay  manera de hacer que logrotate busque recursivamente en los 
directorios dentro de la ruta que uno define? De esta forma la regla 
quedaría algo similar a esto:


/var/log/rsyslog/*.log
{
bla
bla
}

Hay en todo caso alguna otra alternativa a logrotate? Mi idea es 
comprimir los logs ya que no es raro que por día se junten entre 400 y 
600 MB de logs.


Saludos y muchas gracias.

Mauro.


Que iría dentro del archivo /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog sin reemplazar el
resto de entradas que tiene definidas para los mensajes del sistema o
creando un nuevo archivo de configuración (p. ej., /etc/logrotate.d/
remotersyslog) dedicado para la gestión de los registros remotos.

Saludos,




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Re: Configuración de logrotate

El Tue, 03 Jun 2014 13:58:54 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió:

 El 03/06/14 13:31, Camaleón escribió:

(...)

 Lo que quiero hacer ahora es configurar logrotate para que rote y
 comprima los logs semanal o mensualmente, pero respetando la
 estructura de directorios. Es decir, que me genere los archivos
 comprimidos en la misma ruta en la cual están los archivos originales.
 Se puede hacer esto?

 Estoy leyendo pero hasta ahora los ejemplos que vi son para una
 configuración tradicional donde uno tiene todos los logs en /var/log
 sin separar por directorios como estoy haciendo yo, así que estoy
 medio confundido.

 En principio no veo el problema más allá de decirle a logrotate lo que
 necesitas pata cada almacén, por ejemplo:

 /var/log/rsyslog/año/mes/día/HostX/*.log {
 blah blah bla }

 Gracias, en gran parte me aclaraste el panorama, pero (siempre hay uno)
 fijate que ahí la regla que ponés a modo de ejemplo contiene de manera
 estática el año, el mes, el día y el host. Como los host no son una
 cantidad exagerada podría crear una regla para cada uno de ellos,
 teniendo que recordar que cuando agregue un nuevo host debería de
 agregar la regla correspondiente, pero con la fecha como hago?
 
 No hay  manera de hacer que logrotate busque recursivamente en los
 directorios dentro de la ruta que uno define? De esta forma la regla
 quedaría algo similar a esto:
 
 /var/log/rsyslog/*.log {
 bla bla }

Si quieres usar la misma configuración para todos los registros supongo 
que podrás usar lo mismo que en bash, es decir, especificar los  
subniveles (año/mes/día/host) mediante /var/log/rsyslog/*/*/*/*/*.log. 

Ojo, que no lo he probado :-)

 Hay en todo caso alguna otra alternativa a logrotate? Mi idea es
 comprimir los logs ya que no es raro que por día se junten entre 400 y
 600 MB de logs.

Podrías ejecutar una tarea de cron pero eso ya lo hace mejor y de 
manera más eficiente logrotate, la verdad.

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Re: Configuración de logrotate

2014-06-03 Thread Mauro Antivero

El 03/06/14 14:33, Camaleón escribió:

El Tue, 03 Jun 2014 13:58:54 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió:

El 03/06/14 13:31, Camaleón escribió:

(...)

Lo que quiero hacer ahora es configurar logrotate para que rote y
comprima los logs semanal o mensualmente, pero respetando la
estructura de directorios. Es decir, que me genere los archivos
comprimidos en la misma ruta en la cual están los archivos originales.
Se puede hacer esto?

Estoy leyendo pero hasta ahora los ejemplos que vi son para una
configuración tradicional donde uno tiene todos los logs en /var/log
sin separar por directorios como estoy haciendo yo, así que estoy
medio confundido.

En principio no veo el problema más allá de decirle a logrotate lo que
necesitas pata cada almacén, por ejemplo:

/var/log/rsyslog/año/mes/día/HostX/*.log {
blah blah bla }

Gracias, en gran parte me aclaraste el panorama, pero (siempre hay uno)
fijate que ahí la regla que ponés a modo de ejemplo contiene de manera
estática el año, el mes, el día y el host. Como los host no son una
cantidad exagerada podría crear una regla para cada uno de ellos,
teniendo que recordar que cuando agregue un nuevo host debería de
agregar la regla correspondiente, pero con la fecha como hago?

No hay manera de hacer que logrotate busque recursivamente en los
directorios dentro de la ruta que uno define? De esta forma la regla
quedaría algo similar a esto:

/var/log/rsyslog/*.log {
bla bla }

Si quieres usar la misma configuración para todos los registros supongo
que podrás usar lo mismo que en bash, es decir, especificar los
subniveles (año/mes/día/host) mediante /var/log/rsyslog/*/*/*/*/*.log.

Ojo, que no lo he probado :-)

Pero suena lógico, y según dice acá:

http://serverfault.com/questions/208006/logrotating-files-in-a-directories-and-its-subdirectories

Serviría, así que voy a leer un poco más, pruebo y les comento.

Por cierto, ese resultado lo obtuve buscando recursive logrotate.

Saludos y gracias!

Mauro.

Hay en todo caso alguna otra alternativa a logrotate? Mi idea es
comprimir los logs ya que no es raro que por día se junten entre 400 y
600 MB de logs.

Podrías ejecutar una tarea de cron pero eso ya lo hace mejor y de
manera más eficiente logrotate, la verdad.

Saludos,

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Re: [OT] WARNING: Using TrueCrypt is not secure as it may contain unfixed security issues

2014-06-03 Thread Felix Perez

El día 3 de junio de 2014, 9:57, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Tue, 03 Jun 2014 11:39:16 +0200, Gerardo Diez García escribió:

 El 03/06/14 09:54, Sergio Villalba escribió:
 http://www. http://www.truecrypt.orgtruecrypt.org
 http://www.truecrypt.org

 http://truecrypt.sourceforge.net/


 http://www.genbeta.com/seguridad/truecrypt-y-su-misteriosa-desaparicion

 Sí, la noticia lleva unos días coleando por la red (Slashdot, Reddit, Ars
 Technica...). Lo último que sé es que aún no se sabe nada claro.

 La historia esta me ha dejado un poco fuera de juego pero parece que ya
 hay intenciones de mantener el proyecto forqueado y hospedado en Suiza
 (http://truecrypt.ch/). Parece más una cuestión de donde se aloja el
 proyecto que un problema de seguridad, pero en estos temas mejor que
 cada uno se haga su propia imagen.

 Yo también lo uso e igualmente estoy esperando alguna reacción oficial.
 Es un poco raro, la verdad, pero no pinta nada bien. Ya no te puedes fiar
 de nada ni de nadie :-/


En barrapunto desde hace días que se comenta:
http://preguntas.barrapunto.com/article.pl?sid=14/05/29/0730206threshold=-1

Suerte.


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Cerrar ventanas de terminal sin cerrar programas lanzados desde la misma

2014-06-03 Thread Debian GMail


Estimados:

Recurro a ustedes, que tienen una mucho más basta experiencia que yo.
Como buen vejete que soy, la terminal para mí es algo fundamental y que 
nunca dejo de lado, aunque sea con un emulador de terminal gráfico.


Voy al tema.
Si uno lanza un programa desde una terminal, por ejemplo
$ k3b
no sólo no puedo seguir usando dicha terminal, si no que al cerrar la 
ventana, se cierra el programa.

Para evitarlo, va el consabido
$ k3b 
Esto me permite seguir usando la terminal, pero si llego a cerrarla, se 
cierra el programa k3b.


Sé que hay una forma, y es,luego de cargar con la opción  y antes de 
cerrar la terminal, tipear

$ disown -h %1

Pero a veces, me olvido

Cuando invoco un programa desde la barra inferior de comandos de 
Krusader, que en la práctica sería una mini-terminal, uno puede invocar 
un programa, cerrar Krusader y el programa invocado no se cierra. Esto 
quiere decir que de alguna manera se las apaña.


La pregunta:
¿Se puede modificar algún archivo de algo para que al cerrar la 
terminal, automáticamente ejecute disown -h %1 y no me cierre otros 
programas?


Muchas gracias

JAP



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Re: Cerrar ventanas de terminal sin cerrar programas lanzados desde la misma

2014-06-03 Thread Alejandro Esperón

nohup comando

Debian GMail javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com wrote:

Estimados:

Recurro a ustedes, que tienen una mucho más basta experiencia que yo.
Como buen vejete que soy, la terminal para mí es algo fundamental y que 
nunca dejo de lado, aunque sea con un emulador de terminal gráfico.

Voy al tema.
Si uno lanza un programa desde una terminal, por ejemplo
$ k3b
no sólo no puedo seguir usando dicha terminal, si no que al cerrar la 
ventana, se cierra el programa.
Para evitarlo, va el consabido
$ k3b 
Esto me permite seguir usando la terminal, pero si llego a cerrarla, se 
cierra el programa k3b.

Sé que hay una forma, y es,luego de cargar con la opción  y antes de 
cerrar la terminal, tipear
$ disown -h %1

Pero a veces, me olvido

Cuando invoco un programa desde la barra inferior de comandos de 
Krusader, que en la práctica sería una mini-terminal, uno puede invocar 
un programa, cerrar Krusader y el programa invocado no se cierra. Esto 
quiere decir que de alguna manera se las apaña.

La pregunta:
¿Se puede modificar algún archivo de algo para que al cerrar la 
terminal, automáticamente ejecute disown -h %1 y no me cierre otros 
programas?

Muchas gracias

JAP



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Re: Cerrar ventanas de terminal sin cerrar programas lanzados desde la misma

2014-06-03 Thread Debian GMail


El 03/06/14 17:08, Alejandro Esperón escribió:

Debian GMail javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com wrote:


Estimados:

Recurro a ustedes, que tienen una mucho más basta experiencia que yo.
Como buen vejete que soy, la terminal para mí es algo fundamental y que
nunca dejo de lado, aunque sea con un emulador de terminal gráfico.

Voy al tema.
Si uno lanza un programa desde una terminal, por ejemplo
$ k3b
no sólo no puedo seguir usando dicha terminal, si no que al cerrar la
ventana, se cierra el programa.
Para evitarlo, va el consabido
$ k3b 
Esto me permite seguir usando la terminal, pero si llego a cerrarla, se
cierra el programa k3b.

Sé que hay una forma, y es,luego de cargar con la opción  y antes de
cerrar la terminal, tipear
$ disown -h %1

Pero a veces, me olvido

Cuando invoco un programa desde la barra inferior de comandos de
Krusader, que en la práctica sería una mini-terminal, uno puede invocar
un programa, cerrar Krusader y el programa invocado no se cierra. Esto
quiere decir que de alguna manera se las apaña.

La pregunta:
¿Se puede modificar algún archivo de algo para que al cerrar la
terminal, automáticamente ejecute disown -h %1 y no me cierre otros
programas?

Muchas gracias

JAP


 nohup comando


Olvidé mencionar a nohup.
Lo que yo quiero, es invocar un programa desde terminal con la llamada a 
, y luego, aunque no haya puesto nohup o disown, no me cierre el 
programa, mediante el toqueteo de alguna configuración de konsole, 
xterm o la que fuese.

Es decir, que se comporte de esa manera por defecto.
O sea, el/los programas los quiero cerrar yo, cuando yo quiera, en el 
orden que se me antoja, incluida las ventanas de consola.
Por ejemplo, una solución sería que todos los programas que invoque se 
hagan con el prefijo nohup aunque no lo escriba.
Una de las ventajas es que nohup crea un archivo log de lo que uno 
corre, pero a veces, eso es desventaja, porque quiero ver el trazado en 
tiempo real.


Gracias

JAP


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Re: Cerrar ventanas de terminal sin cerrar programas lanzados desde la misma

2014-06-03 Thread Jorge Iglesias


On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 04:40:06PM -0300, Debian GMail wrote:
 Estimados:
 
 Recurro a ustedes, que tienen una mucho más basta experiencia que yo.
 Como buen vejete que soy, la terminal para mí es algo fundamental y que
 nunca dejo de lado, aunque sea con un emulador de terminal gráfico.
 
 Voy al tema.
 Si uno lanza un programa desde una terminal, por ejemplo
 $ k3b
 no sólo no puedo seguir usando dicha terminal, si no que al cerrar la
 ventana, se cierra el programa.
 Para evitarlo, va el consabido
 $ k3b 
 Esto me permite seguir usando la terminal, pero si llego a cerrarla, se
 cierra el programa k3b.
 
 Sé que hay una forma, y es,luego de cargar con la opción  y antes de
 cerrar la terminal, tipear
 $ disown -h %1
 
 Pero a veces, me olvido
 
 Cuando invoco un programa desde la barra inferior de comandos de Krusader,
 que en la práctica sería una mini-terminal, uno puede invocar un programa,
 cerrar Krusader y el programa invocado no se cierra. Esto quiere decir que
 de alguna manera se las apaña.
 
 La pregunta:
 ¿Se puede modificar algún archivo de algo para que al cerrar la terminal,
 automáticamente ejecute disown -h %1 y no me cierre otros programas?
 
 Muchas gracias
 
 JAP
 
 
 
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crear repositorio propio

2014-06-03 Thread Francisco javier

hola listeros, mi consulta es para montar un repositorio propio, ejem,
tengo un disco duro externo usb, y necesito instalar programas en un
dell latitude cpx.
este no tiene acceso a ninguna red, lo que estaba haciendo hasta el
momento es descargar paquete por paquete, pero me demora mucho
satisfacer todas las dependencias manualmente, mi idea era crear un
repositorio en el disco usb, configurarlo en mi sources.list . luego
un aptitude update. y a instalar programas. tengo presente que tendria
que descargarme todos los dvds de la pagina de Debian y  no hay
problema con ello.
pd: es un pIII 500 mhz con 128 de ram con debian squeeze 32 bits, y es
mi regalón.
saludos!
Francisco


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Re: crear repositorio propio

2014-06-03 Thread Christian Frausto Bernal


On 03/06/2014 04:11 p.m., Francisco javier wrote:
 hola listeros, mi consulta es para montar un repositorio propio, ejem,
 tengo un disco duro externo usb, y necesito instalar programas en un
 dell latitude cpx.
 este no tiene acceso a ninguna red, lo que estaba haciendo hasta el
 momento es descargar paquete por paquete, pero me demora mucho
 satisfacer todas las dependencias manualmente, mi idea era crear un
 repositorio en el disco usb, configurarlo en mi sources.list . luego
 un aptitude update. y a instalar programas. tengo presente que tendria
 que descargarme todos los dvds de la pagina de Debian y  no hay
 problema con ello.
 pd: es un pIII 500 mhz con 128 de ram con debian squeeze 32 bits, y es
 mi regalón.
 saludos!
 Francisco



prueba con apt-mirror

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Debian Wheezy/stable krashar datorn

2014-06-03 Thread Staffan Melin (Oscillator)

Hej!

Ett skumt problem som jag brottats med i över ett år.

Jag har en inet-dator, core i7 (från 2010). Har från början kört Win7
på den, har fungerat bra (men otillfredsställande :) ). Hade ett tag
problem med plötsliga omstarter som visade sig bero på fel i RAM i en
HD (bufferten). Det löste sg med byte av HD.

Installerade först Ubuntu 12.04 (i dual-boot). Krashade ibland.

För drygt ett halvår sedan gick jag över till Debian 7 stable.
Krashade med symptom datorn bootade om. Inget skrevs i loggen, så det
var svårt att veta vad det var.

Fick intrycket av att krasherna förekom oftare under Gnome 3, så jag
ominstallerade med XFCE4. Nu är det nästan stabilt.

Bytte till och med grafikkort (från nvidia till ett billigt ATI). Har
kört memtest86+ för att kolla RAM, inga felmeddelanden.

Men krasherna förekommer fortfarande. Verkar (subjektivt) som om de
enbart förekommer då Iceweasel körs.

Jag har sökt på nätet och hittat några med liknande problem och de
slutar nästan alltid i troligen ett hårdvaru-fel.

Sammanfattning:

Jag har en dator som fungerar fint med Win7.
Under Debian Wheezy/XFCE4 krashar den ibland (kanske 1 gång i veckan).

Någon som har ett tips på hur jag ska gå vidare i min felsökning? Kan
det vara moderkortet (ett Gigabyte X58A-UD3R) som inte är kompatibelt?
Kör firmware-linux-nonfree och även flashplugin-nonfree (fan, ska
prova att avinstallera flash).

Staffan

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Re: Debian Wheezy/stable krashar datorn

2014-06-03 Thread Sven Arvidsson

On Tue, 2014-06-03 at 10:37 +0200, Staffan Melin (Oscillator) wrote:
 Jag har en dator som fungerar fint med Win7.
 Under Debian Wheezy/XFCE4 krashar den ibland (kanske 1 gång i veckan).
 
 Någon som har ett tips på hur jag ska gå vidare i min felsökning? Kan
 det vara moderkortet (ett Gigabyte X58A-UD3R) som inte är kompatibelt?
 Kör firmware-linux-nonfree och även flashplugin-nonfree (fan, ska
 prova att avinstallera flash).

Har du senaste BIOS till moderkortet? Utöver det låter det som ett
trassligt problem att ställa diagnos på. 

Det smidigaste hade varit att byta ut hårdvara tills du hittar den
komponent som felar, men det kan ju bli dyrt om du inte kan låna delar
av någon. 

Förutom den hårdvaran du redan testat kan det vara en idé att kika på
strömförsörjningen. Man kan få en del lustiga fel om den inte är
tillräcklig eller om PSU:n håller på att gå sönder.

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Re: Debian Wheezy/stable krashar datorn

2014-06-03 Thread Staffan Melin (Oscillator)

Tack för ideer!

2014-06-03 10:56 GMT+02:00 Sven Arvidsson s...@whiz.se:
 On Tue, 2014-06-03 at 10:37 +0200, Staffan Melin (Oscillator) wrote:
 Jag har en dator som fungerar fint med Win7.
 Under Debian Wheezy/XFCE4 krashar den ibland (kanske 1 gång i veckan).

 Har du senaste BIOS till moderkortet? Utöver det låter det som ett
 trassligt problem att ställa diagnos på.

Vet att det kommit nyare version, ska prova att installera (har inte
vågat hittils).


 Det smidigaste hade varit att byta ut hårdvara tills du hittar den
 komponent som felar, men det kan ju bli dyrt om du inte kan låna delar
 av någon.

 Förutom den hårdvaran du redan testat kan det vara en idé att kika på
 strömförsörjningen. Man kan få en del lustiga fel om den inte är
 tillräcklig eller om PSU:n håller på att gå sönder.

Intressant tips. Men det är konstigt att det isf fungerar under Windows?


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Re: Debian Wheezy/stable krashar datorn

2014-06-03 Thread Lars Nordlund

tis 2014-06-03 klockan 10:37 +0200 skrev Staffan Melin (Oscillator):
 Hej!
 
 Ett skumt problem som jag brottats med i över ett år.
 

 Någon som har ett tips på hur jag ska gå vidare i min felsökning? Kan
 det vara moderkortet (ett Gigabyte X58A-UD3R) som inte är kompatibelt?
 Kör firmware-linux-nonfree och även flashplugin-nonfree (fan, ska
 prova att avinstallera flash).

Har du testat att göra längre kompileringsjobb? T ex parallell-kompilera
något stort mjukvaruprojekt, om och om igen? Får du t ex segmentation
fault från gcc vid något tillfälle har du antagligen hårdvaruproblem
(CPU, minne, cacheminne, moderkort). Om du kan framkalla felet utan att
ha tung grafik igång är det ett plus. Moderna grafik-drivare är idag
såna monster att de inte riktigt går att lita på..

En möjlig orsak till problem kan vara att du har otillräcklig kontakt
mellan processor och kylfläns. Det är ett problem jag själv haft på en
av mina datorer (core2duo). Testa att ta loss flänsen, rengör från
gammal pasta och sätt ny, i ett perfekt, lagom tjockt, lager. Kör om
dina stabilitetstester och se om det har någon effekt.

Hoppas du löser problemet. Instabil dator är fruktansvärt att ha.

Mvh, Lars



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Itautec Infoway A7520 - Debian 7

2014-06-03 Thread Nelson Ramos

Bom dia pessoal.

  Comprei o notebook citado no assunto deste email e resolvi instalar o
Debian 7 nele. Estou enfrentando os problemas abaixo e não consigo sequer
identificar a causa:

- Durante o boot de qualquer live cd (exceto open suse 12(?)) a tela fica
piscando durante a apresentação do grub ou o grub congela. Para que o grub
volte a se tornar funcional é necessário pressionar tab para editar a
linha, pressionar esc para sair do modo de edição (sem alterar nada) para
então o grub voltar a funcionar.

- Após a instalação do Debain 7, o grub congela, sendo necessário o
reinício forçado da máquina, uma ou duas vezes, para que ele se torne
funcional.

- Durante o boot (não uso boot splash) não consigo ler as linhas de
reconhecimento de hardware e carregamento dos módulos pois a tela inteira
se enche com a seguinte sequência de caracteres ~^[[21, porém ao executar
o dmesg, os caracteres não aparecem. Pensei que pudesse ser problema de
memória, mas rodei o memtest e tudo está ok.

 - Os três sintomas acima foram identificados no Debian 7, Linux Mint 17 e
Ubuntu 14.04, todos 64bits. Não realizei testes com versões de 32 bits e a
única distro não baseada em Debian que testei foi a OpenSuse 12, que não
apresentou os sintomas acima.

- Após concluído o boot, faço logon na máquina e tudo funciona
perfeitamente, a uso sem problemas, exceto se resolver fazer logoff. Ao
fazer logoff a tela de logon é exibida em seguida de forma diferente: É
como se a tela fosse deslocada 50% para a esquerda e a metade da esquerda,
que ficaria fora da tela, passa a ser exibida do lado direito, exibindo uma
linha divisória entre as duas metades. Farei um comparativo com a palavra
casa. Imagine que a palavra casa é a tela, após o logoff a palavra casa
seria exibida assim: sa|ca

Alguém faz alguma ideia do que pode estar causando tudo isso?

Obrigado a todos.

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Problemas driver nouveau

2014-06-03 Thread Mauricio Neto


Amigo da lista bom dia.

Alguém por aqui tem enfrentado problemas com o nouveau?

Comigo aconteceu algo bem estranho. Na minha estação desktop começou a 
aparecer a mensagem

[drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: === misaligned reg 0x0060081D ===
[drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: === misaligned reg 0x0060081D ===

Retirei a placa de vídeo que estava usando e deixei na on-board e a 
mesma mensagem surgiu. Isso ficou durante alguns dias. Hoje o Gnome não 
inicializa no novo padrão, usando a antiga tela informando que não tenho 
capacidade de vídeo.


O mais interessante é que notei no meu firewall (que não tem xwindows) 
também uma mensagem relativa ao nouveau.


No final do email esta o log com as informações relativas ao nouveau e 
abaixo os fragmentos do dmesg do desktop e do firewall que me chamaram a 
atenção



Desktop
[5.955572] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: === misaligned reg 
0x0060081D ===
[5.955615] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: === misaligned reg 
0x0060081D ===

...
[6.126772] drm: registered panic notifier

Firewall
[6.297774] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: GPU lockup - switching to 
software fbcon

[6.371870] fb0: nouveaufb frame buffer device
[6.371873] drm: registered panic notifier



Logs relativos ao nouveau
estação desktop
[5.909106] nouveau :00:0d.0: setting latency timer to 64
[5.909168] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: Detected an NV40 generation 
card (0x04c000a2)

[5.915658] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: Checking PRAMIN for VBIOS
[5.955222] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: ... appears to be valid
[5.955228] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: Using VBIOS from PRAMIN
[5.955239] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: BIT BIOS found
[5.955247] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: Bios version 05.61.32.28
[5.955255] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: TMDS table version 1.1
[5.955499] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: MXM: no VBIOS data, nothing to do
[5.955506] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: DCB version 3.0
[5.955513] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: DCB outp 00: 01000310 0023
[5.955521] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: DCB outp 01: 00110204 942b0003
[5.955527] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: DCB conn 00: 
[5.955534] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: DCB conn 01: 1131
[5.955541] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: DCB conn 02: 0110
[5.955547] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: DCB conn 03: 0111
[5.92] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: DCB conn 04: 0113
[5.955564] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: Parsing VBIOS init table 0 at 
offset 0xD9C9
[5.955572] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: === misaligned reg 
0x0060081D ===
[5.955615] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: === misaligned reg 
0x0060081D ===
[5.955775] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: Parsing VBIOS init table 1 at 
offset 0xDB17
[5.955782] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: Parsing VBIOS init table 2 at 
offset 0xDB18
[5.955943] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: Parsing VBIOS init table 3 at 
offset 0xDC9A
[5.955954] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: Parsing VBIOS init table 4 at 
offset 0xDCE3

[5.956294] [TTM] Zone  kernel: Available graphics memory: 1901586 kiB
[5.956300] [TTM] Initializing pool allocator
[5.956312] [TTM] Initializing DMA pool allocator
[5.956337] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: Detected 256MiB VRAM (unknown 
type)

[5.957602] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: 64 MiB GART (aperture)
[5.961378] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: Saving VGA fonts
[5.998000] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: DCB type 4 not known
[5.998002] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: Unknown-1 has no encoders, 
removing

[5.999028] [drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 1 (10.10.2010).
[5.999030] [drm] No driver support for vblank timestamp query.
[6.004160] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: 1 available performance level(s)
[6.004164] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: 0: core 500MHz shader 500MHz 
fanspeed 100%

[6.004166] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: c:
[6.053540] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: allocated 1366x768 fb: 
0x49000, bo 880118775000

[6.053676] fbcon: nouveaufb (fb0) is primary device
[6.124632] Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 170x48
[6.126767] fb0: nouveaufb frame buffer device
[6.126772] drm: registered panic notifier
[6.126784] [drm] Initialized nouveau 1.0.0 20120316 for :00:0d.0 
on minor 0



firewall
[5.286258] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Detected an NV10 generation 
card (0x018500c1)

[5.288621] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Checking PRAMIN for VBIOS
[5.334960] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: ... appears to be valid
[5.334964] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Using VBIOS from PRAMIN
[5.335305] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: BMP BIOS found
[5.335309] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: BMP version 5.40
[5.335314] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Bios version 04.18.20.36
[5.335808] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: MXM: no VBIOS data,

Re: Problemas driver nouveau

2014-06-03 Thread Rodolfo

Uma pergunta, seu PC/Notebook tem entrada USB 3.0 ?


2014-06-03 9:27 GMT-04:00 Mauricio Neto mstn...@gmail.com:

 Amigo da lista bom dia.

 Alguém por aqui tem enfrentado problemas com o nouveau?

 Comigo aconteceu algo bem estranho. Na minha estação desktop começou a
 aparecer a mensagem
 [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: === misaligned reg 0x0060081D ===
 [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: === misaligned reg 0x0060081D ===

 Retirei a placa de vídeo que estava usando e deixei na on-board e a mesma
 mensagem surgiu. Isso ficou durante alguns dias. Hoje o Gnome não
 inicializa no novo padrão, usando a antiga tela informando que não tenho
 capacidade de vídeo.

 O mais interessante é que notei no meu firewall (que não tem xwindows)
 também uma mensagem relativa ao nouveau.

 No final do email esta o log com as informações relativas ao nouveau e
 abaixo os fragmentos do dmesg do desktop e do firewall que me chamaram a
 atenção


 Desktop
 [5.955572] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: === misaligned reg
 0x0060081D ===
 [5.955615] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: === misaligned reg
 0x0060081D ===
 ...
 [6.126772] drm: registered panic notifier

 Firewall
 [6.297774] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: GPU lockup - switching to
 software fbcon
 [6.371870] fb0: nouveaufb frame buffer device
 [6.371873] drm: registered panic notifier


 
 Logs relativos ao nouveau
 estação desktop
 [5.909106] nouveau :00:0d.0: setting latency timer to 64
 [5.909168] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: Detected an NV40 generation
 card (0x04c000a2)
 [5.915658] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: Checking PRAMIN for VBIOS
 [5.955222] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: ... appears to be valid
 [5.955228] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: Using VBIOS from PRAMIN
 [5.955239] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: BIT BIOS found
 [5.955247] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: Bios version 05.61.32.28
 [5.955255] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: TMDS table version 1.1
 [5.955499] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: MXM: no VBIOS data, nothing to
 do
 [5.955506] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: DCB version 3.0
 [5.955513] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: DCB outp 00: 01000310 0023
 [5.955521] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: DCB outp 01: 00110204 942b0003
 [5.955527] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: DCB conn 00: 
 [5.955534] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: DCB conn 01: 1131
 [5.955541] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: DCB conn 02: 0110
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 offset 0xDCE3
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 [5.956312] [TTM] Initializing DMA pool allocator
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 type)
 [5.957602] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: 64 MiB GART (aperture)
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 [5.998000] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: DCB type 4 not known
 [5.998002] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: Unknown-1 has no encoders,
 removing
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 [5.999030] [drm] No driver support for vblank timestamp query.
 [6.004160] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: 1 available performance level(s)
 [6.004164] [drm] nouveau :00:0d.0: 0: core 500MHz shader 500MHz
 fanspeed 100%
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 bo 880118775000
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 [6.124632] Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 170x48
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 [6.126784] [drm] Initialized nouveau 1.0.0 20120316 for :00:0d.0
 on minor 0
 

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 [5.288621] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Checking PRAMIN for VBIOS
 [5.334960] [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: ... appears to be valid
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Bacula Dúvidas

2014-06-03 Thread Anderson Bertling

Bom dia

Senhores(as) estou criando um servidor bacula, estou com Dúvida como montar
a area de backup propriamente dita, tenho 2 hd neste servidor um de 100...
e pouco gb que fica o / e um de 2tb que é para ficar o backup, minha dúvida
é como alterar o arquivo de conf do bacula

Desde ja fico grato pela ajuda

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Re: Bacula Dúvidas

2014-06-03 Thread Geowany Alves

Boa tarde Anderson,

Se você quer fazer backup direto em disco, pode colocar essa configuração
no seu bacula-sd.confg


Device {
  Name = HardDisk
  Media Type = File
  Archive Device = /diretório-em-que-você-montou-o-hd-de-backup
  LabelMedia = yes
  Random Access = yes
  AutomaticMount = yes
  RemovableMedia = no
  AlwaysOpen = no
}


No bacula-dir.conf pode ficar assim:

Storage {
  Name = HardDisk
  Address = 192.168.0.10   # IP ou FQDN do bacula SD
  SDPort = 9103
  Password = senhaparabaculasd
  Device = HardDisk
  Media Type = File
}


Acredito que tenha mais sucesso com dúvidas sobre bacula no grupo dos
usuários brasileiros no Google.


Abraços,



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Em 3 de junho de 2014 12:02, Anderson Bertling andersonbertl...@gmail.com
escreveu:

 Bom dia

 Senhores(as) estou criando um servidor bacula, estou com Dúvida como
 montar a area de backup propriamente dita, tenho 2 hd neste servidor um de
 100... e pouco gb que fica o / e um de 2tb que é para ficar o backup, minha
 dúvida é como alterar o arquivo de conf do bacula

 Desde ja fico grato pela ajuda

 --
 Att

 Anderson Bertling

Problemas ao iniciar o sistema.

2014-06-03 Thread Manuel Silva

 Tenho um computador antigo com debian lxde instalado, com duas memorias rams, 
uma de 256mb e outra de 1gb, o coller do processador estava fazendo um barulho 
estranho, acabei trocando ele e passando a pasta térmica no processador, nisso 
minha memoria ram de 1 gb parou de funcionar e o meu sistema ficou lento demais 
a ponto demorar demais para abrir os programas, tirei as duas memorias rams e 
dei uma limpada, quando ligo o computador o sistema começa e ficar apitando, e 
não inicia, tirei as rams e coloquei novamente, depois de um tempo volta a 
funcionar, mas depois de um tempo essa ram de 1gb fica sem ser reconhecida, o 
computador funciona ao menos se a ram de 256 estiver ativada se não tiver ela o 
computador fica apitando caso eu coloque apenas a memoria de 1gb, eu não sei o 
porque disso. 

Alguém passou um tipo de situação assim? Como resolver nesse caso?

Re: Problemas ao iniciar o sistema.

2014-06-03 Thread Alcione Ferreira


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Em 03-06-2014 17:25, Manuel Silva escreveu:
 Tenho um computador antigo com debian lxde instalado, com duas memorias rams, 
 uma de 256mb e outra de
1gb, o coller do processador estava fazendo um barulho estranho, acabei
trocando ele e passando a pasta térmica no processador, nisso minha
memoria ram de 1 gb parou de funcionar e o meu sistema ficou lento
demais a ponto demorar demais para abrir os programas, tirei as duas
memorias rams e dei uma limpada, quando ligo o computador o sistema
começa e ficar apitando, e não inicia, tirei as rams e coloquei
novamente, depois de um tempo volta a funcionar, mas depois de um tempo
essa ram de 1gb fica sem ser reconhecida, o computador funciona ao menos
se a ram de 256 estiver ativada se não tiver ela o computador fica
apitando caso eu coloque apenas a memoria de 1gb, eu não sei o porque disso.

 Alguém passou um tipo de situação assim? Como resolver nesse caso?
Boa noite!
Já tentou trocar de slot a memória?
Se já então sua memória está para queimar, sugiro achar outra para
substituir é o único jeito de resolver.

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Mate 1.8 no Debian

2014-06-03 Thread Listeiro 037


Saudações.

Faz um tempo perguntei sobre o Desktop Mate no Debian (e sobre o
MariaDB também). Foram-me indicados e-mail na lista em inglês com
negativas quanto ao Mate e com trabalhos no MariaDB. Justamente um dos
problema com o Mate Desktop era o defasado Bonobo.

Hoje qual não foi minha surpresa ao receber, na lista em inglês, a
mensagem do Mate 1.8 presente no Debian! Conforme acompanhei, Bonobo
foi retirado e é prometido GTK3 para a versão 1.10. Maria está quase lá.

Eu tinha certeza de que haveria um espaço para o Mate no Debian.
Provavelmente será para a versão 8 (Jessie), não é? Hoje, por esta
certeza ter se confirmado, ouso arriscar a dizer se, quem sabe num
futuro próximo, o Desktop Mate não se torne o default da instalação do
Debian (se não houver alguma espécie de múltipla escolha).

http://us.generation-nt.com/mate-1-8-has-now-fully-arrived-debian-help-215439942.html


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upgrade? broke exim4

2014-06-03 Thread Mike McClain

Howdy,
I hadn't rebooted since dist-upgrade last January then something
caused a lockup, no video, no keyboard such that I did a hard power off.
That was 2 days ago and since I've rebooted exim4 can't connect to
127.0.0.1:25 hence fetchmail can't transfer inbound mail.
I've not found any solution on Google that works for me. Exim and
fetchmail has worked for me for years, since Potato I believe, Debian 2
something.
When I run '/etc/init.d/exim4 restart' exim4 writes to
/var/log/exim4/paniclog,
socket bind() to port 25 for address ::1 failed: Cannot assign
requested address: waiting 30s before trying again (9 more tries)
and finally: daemon abandoned
When I try to fetch mail
mike@/deb73:~ /usr/bin/fetchmail -v -i '';
1 message for mdmcclain at pop3.nethere.net (4211 octets).
fetchmail: POP3 LIST 1
fetchmail: POP3 +OK 1 4211
fetchmail: POP3 TOP 1 
fetchmail: POP3 +OK headers follow.
reading message mdmccl...@mail.nethere.net:1 of 1 (4211 octets)
Trying to connect to 127.0.0.1/25...connected.
fetchmail: smtp listener protocol error
Trying to connect to 127.0.0.1/25...connection failed.
fetchmail: connection to localhost:smtp [127.0.0.1/25] failed:
Connection refused.
fetchmail: Connection errors for this poll:
name 0: connection to localhost:smtp [127.0.0.1/25] failed:
Connection refused.
fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed
fetchmail: POP3 QUIT
fetchmail: POP3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from
mdmccl...@pop3.nethere.net
and delivering to SMTP host localhost
fetchmail: 6.3.21 querying pop3.nethere.net (protocol POP3) at
Mon Jun  2 12:39:46 2014:
poll completed
fetchmail: Query status=10 (SMTP)
this stopped exim4 again

I don't see anything suspicious in /etc/ exim4 or fetchmail configs
so rebooted into older kernel and to see if problems went away, no joy.
In one of the messages I read online someone's problems went away with an
upgrade, so I did an update, upgrade, still no joy.

I'll readily admit most of what I've tried is flailing. I don't even know
what a port is that exim4 can't connect to, though I suspect it's software since
the hardware allows me to connect to the internet.
I'm on dialup if that matters.

One of the messages online suggested running,
'while true; do netstat -tlpn | grep :25 ; sleep 10 ; done'.
This shows nothing unless done right after restarting exim4 which dies after 
about
2.5 minutes.

I'm open to suggestions as I don't know where to go from here, but please 
keep
the suggestions focused on what the problem with exim4 is. It's way too early to
change MTAs which will have a whole other batch of problems.

Thanks,
Mike
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Re: upgrade? broke exim4

2014-06-03 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby


On 06/03/2014 08:00 AM, Mike McClain wrote:

 I'm open to suggestions as I don't know where to go from here, but please 
keep
the suggestions focused on what the problem with exim4 is. It's way too early to
change MTAs which will have a whole other batch of problems.


Does your Exim listen on IPv4 localhost?


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Re: Crypt data on the fly

2014-06-03 Thread Anthony Campbell

On 02 Jun 2014, Diogene Laerce wrote:
 
 On 06/02/2014 06:43 PM, Bzzz wrote:
 On Mon, 2 Jun 2014 18:32:30 +0200
 L.M.J linuxmasterj...@free.fr wrote:
 
I sync my data to a cloud storage online service. I do NOT want
 to crypt my 60GB data at home, but I want them crypted on the
 cloud, so, when I rsync the data, I would like to send encrypted
 files on the fly. I want to have encrypted files, not rsync a 60GB
 encrypted partition.
 You could mount the remote service on encfs and either work
 directly on your remote files or rsync local to remote mount
 point.  This way, remote data is always encrypted while the
 key's yours.
 
 I use crashplan and Im quite happy with them : very professional and they
 do offer that service. ;)
 
 Their website : https://www.code42.com/store/
 

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned tarsnap: Onlinebackups for the
truly paranoid. See www.tarsnap.com. It's specifically for Unix systems
- on Windows only via Cygwin.


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Re: Crypt data on the fly

2014-06-03 Thread Darac Marjal

On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 07:16:16PM +0200, Bzzz wrote:
 On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 19:01:17 +0200
 Diogene Laerce me_buss...@yahoo.fr wrote:
 
  I use crashplan and Im quite happy with them : very professional
  and they do offer that service. ;)
  
  Their website : https://www.code42.com/store/
  
 From what I see, encryption is blowfish, which is good;
 but they also keep your key, which is very bad.

I like the idea of Crashplan, but just slapping the label of Blowfish
on their encryption isn't quite good enough [1].

If I could trust that the encryption was done competently, I'd move to
Crashplan in a heartbeat.


[1]
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/17005256/448-bit-blowfish-considering-the-64-bit-blocksize-is-it-secure-at-all-for-larg

 
 This is the advantage of encfs: you keep your key, so the
 repository is just a shell.

Yes, but choosing your encryption badly can cause problems. For one, as
above, bad choices can mean poor security. But also a badly chosen
encryption scheme might mean unnecessarily large diffs (and so more
storage/bandwidth on your cloud provider).



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Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies

2014-06-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU

On Du, 01 iun 14, 15:36:37, Joe wrote:
 
 Not wishing to add confusion, but you may also find references to
 'dpkg'. This is the low-level package tool that all the apt tools are
 front-ends for. It does no dependency checking,

Maybe you didn't mean it this way, but dpkg does indeed do dependency 
checking. When provided with a bunch of .deb files to install it will 
take care of proper ordering when needed (Depends:, Pre-Depends:, etc.) 
and will refuse to install packages without satisfied dependencies 
unless --force switches are used.

I think it's more accurate to say dpkg only handles files (be it .deb 
archives or files originating from .deb archives). It has no knowledge 
of archives, repositories, etc.

 and will do exactly
 what you tell it to do, so it is somewhat dangerous to use. It can do
 things the apt tools cannot, however, (the man page is quite large) so
 you may occasionally need to resort to using it, *carefully*. 

The apt tools are useless without dpkg, however, dpkg will happily 
install .deb files downloaded by any other means.

 A few of its options are simple and safe: 
   dpkg --get-selections  a file 
   is a useful way to keep a record of the installed states of packages,
 and is probably a good thing to do regularly as part of a backup
 regimen. dpkg-reconfigure is a utility to re-run the configuration of
 a package that normally happens only at install time.

This can be useful, but looses a lot of additional information, like 
whether packages were installed because of user action or as dependency 
of another package. apt-clone can be used for such backup/restores.

Kind regards,
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Re: no longer sound on amd64 sid systems

2014-06-03 Thread Paul Pignon

Elimar Riesebieter riesebie at lxtec.de writes:



I found a solution that worked here http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?
f=6t=114840p=542584#p542584

/Paul





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Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?

 From: Marko Randjelovic marelo...@gmail.com
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Cc: Horatio Leragon hlera...@yahoo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. 
enable internet access)?

 If you didn't unselect Desktop Environment during install, it's already 
 installed.

I unselected Desktop Environment during install as I have found it to be 
bloated, full of software that I do not need at all.

 Read some basic introduction about basic networking terms. Then you could 
 read some basic introduction to Linux networking.

I have done that and since I am still clueless, I asked the questions here.

 For your current problem, you didn't provide us enough information. We don't 
 even know if your network cable is pluged in or you expect to be 
 cnnected by wireless.

During installation of Debian, there is no wired and wireless connection. 
Debian skips auto-configuration of network, DHCP and DHCPv6.

I install a bare minimum of Debian. During Selecting software to install, I 
unselect all the three items offered to me: Desktop Environment, Print Server 
and Standard System Utilities.

About one or two weeks after installation, I take my laptop computer to my 
friend's home where there is both wired and wireless connection.

What commands do I have to type at the console, tty1, to enable internet access?

Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies

 From: Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies

 Maybe you didn't mean it this way, but dpkg does indeed do dependency 
 checking. When provided with a bunch of .deb files to install it will take 
 care of proper ordering when needed (Depends:, Pre-Depends:, etc.) and will 
 refuse to install packages without satisfied dependencies unless  --force 
 switches are used.

What happens if we choose to use --force switches to install software with 
unsatisfied dependencies?

 The apt tools are useless without dpkg, however, dpkg will happily install 
 .deb files downloaded by any other means.

What are these any other means?

Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?

2014-06-03 Thread Darac Marjal

On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 04:14:57AM -0700, Horatio Leragon wrote:
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From: Marko Randjelovic marelo...@gmail.com
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: Horatio Leragon hlera...@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie.
enable internet access)?
 If you didn't unselect Desktop Environment during install, it's
already installed.

I unselected Desktop Environment during install as I have found it to be
bloated, full of software that I do not need at all.

 Read some basic introduction about basic networking terms. Then you
could read some basic introduction to Linux networking.

I have done that and since I am still clueless, I asked the questions
here.

 For your current problem, you didn't provide us enough information. We
don't even know if your network cable is pluged in or you expect to be
 cnnected by wireless.

During installation of Debian, there is no wired and wireless connection.
Debian skips auto-configuration of network, DHCP and DHCPv6.

I install a bare minimum of Debian. During Selecting software to
install, I unselect all the three items offered to me: Desktop
Environment, Print Server and Standard System Utilities.

About one or two weeks after installation, I take my laptop computer to my
friend's home where there is both wired and wireless connection.

What commands do I have to type at the console, tty1, to enable internet
access?

OK, given your preference for keeping things to a minimum, you may as
well do the following.

If the connection is wired and DHCP is available:
 #0: apt-get install isc-dhcp-client (I'm assuming you have your install
 CD handy)
 #1: sudo dhclient eth0

That should be enough to get you an IP, a nameserver and a default
route. Try ping -c1 google.com or else ping -c1 8.8.8.8. If the
first fails, but the second works, append namesever 8.8.8.8 to
/etc/resolv.conf

If the connection is wired, and DHCP is not available (i.e. a static IP
is provided)
  #1: ip address add x.x.x.x/yy dev eth0
  #2: ip route add default via z.z.z.z dev eth0
  #3: echo nameserver 8.8.8.8  /etc/resolv.conf

Where x.x.x.x/yy and z.z.z.z are the ip address (x.x.x.x), netmassk
(yy bits) and gateway server (z.z.z.z) that your friend provides.

If you visit this friend regularly, you might want to look at putting
something into /etc/network/interfaces (man interfaces has some good
examples).

If the connection is wireless, I would suggest installing wpasupplicant
and then following something like the ArchLinux page on how to use it:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wpa_supplicant

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Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies

2014-06-03 Thread The Wanderer

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On 06/03/2014 07:19 AM, Horatio Leragon wrote:

[that on 2014-06-03 at 5:08, Andrei POPESCU wrote:]

 Maybe you didn't mean it this way, but dpkg does indeed do
 dependency checking. When provided with a bunch of .deb files to
 install it will take care of proper ordering when needed (Depends:,
 Pre-Depends:, etc.) and will refuse to install packages without
 satisfied dependencies unless  --force switches are used.
 
 What happens if we choose to use --force switches to install software
 with unsatisfied dependencies?

That depends on a number of other factors.

Literally speaking, dpkg will simply unpack the package's files into
their appropriate places and (attempt to) run the preinst, postinst, and
any other relevant processing scripts, just as it does on any install.

If the preinst, postinst, or other processing scripts rely on the
availability of something which (due to unsatisfied dependencies) is not
installed, then the install process will be aborted at that point, but
AFAIK everything that was done prior to that will remain.

If one of the files installed by the package is already on the system,
whether because it was also installed by a different package or because
you created it by hand or for some other reason, that file will be
replaced during the install process. If the original file was required
by some other software, then that other software may stop working after
the --force install.

Once the --force install is complete, if you try to run the installed
program, it may fail to run - for example, if it relies on a library
which did not get installed.


So in general, installing packages with '--force' is risky; it *can*
work just fine if your system happens to be in the right configuration
and if you're lucky, but in many cases it will result in something breaking.

There's more, and there are some scenarios where it can actually be a
good idea; in fact, I suspect apt-get uses 'dpkg --force' itself in some
cases, to resolve complex dependency situations during package upgrades.
(If you look at the output of 'apt-get dist-upgrade' or 'apt-get install
[packagename]', you may occasionally see a line saying something like
Dependency problems, but removing anyway as you request; if I'm not
mistaken, this is the result of apt-get using 'dpkg --force' on an
uninstall request.) But for the most part, using 'dpkg --force' is a bad
idea unless you know *EXACTLY* wnat you're doing.

 The apt tools are useless without dpkg, however, dpkg will happily
 install .deb files downloaded by any other means.
 
 What are these any other means?

Literally any other means of getting a .deb file onto your computer.

Downloading it via save as in a Web browser, downloading it using a
command-line download program such as wget, copying it from another
computer onto a Flash drive and then copying it from the Flash drive
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Re: Crypt data on the fly

2014-06-03 Thread Bzzz

On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 10:03:17 +0100
Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote:

 I like the idea of Crashplan, but just slapping the label of
 Blowfish on their encryption isn't quite good enough [1].

Mouhaharf, trusting SO for trivial Q/A is one thing, trusting
it about things as sensible as crypto is much more neurone
instant death than common sens…

 If I could trust that the encryption was done competently, I'd
 move to Crashplan in a heartbeat.

Most of the programmers use directly the code supplied by Schneier's
team.

But you're right: when you don't know how the crypto's implemented
don't ever use it.

…
 Yes, but choosing your encryption badly can cause problems. For
 one, as above, bad choices can mean poor security.

So, you're a real cryptanalyst; then, please develop your
rant about BF.

 But also a
 badly chosen encryption scheme might mean unnecessarily large
 diffs (and so more storage/bandwidth on your cloud provider).

Depends what you're looking after: real security or comfort…

At this time, there's no known successful attack against BF.
thinking 448 bits is 3.5 more secure than 128 bits doesn't
mean nothing (AES 256 bits is considered weaker than 128 bits…)
provided you have a strong random data generator (otherwise
not any crypto will long more than a few hours).
As of today, 128 bits fits all the needs.

Much of people saying: oh, this cryto's not so good, etc
are either jealous or disinformers, unless they are specialists
and publish academic papers; a very few are real cryptanalyzers
because that needs real maths applied to crypto skills.

This is no secret that nsa pushed AES in front of BF, there
are good reasons for that…

BF have some weakness (some keys aren't that safe) but nobody
has broken the whole set of rounds, and even if it is an old
crypto (it works on 8bits µCPU!), it is still one of the best
there is at this time (and a polyvalent one).

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Re: pinentry-gtk2 doesn't react to keyboard input

2014-06-03 Thread Ralph Katz

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On 06/02/2014 11:07 PM, lina wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I use icedove + enigmail for encryption with the pinentry-gtk2 as
 gpg-agent in the past.
 
 It worked well until yesterday I added a new email account with new gpg
 key for it.
 
 When the pop-up asked for passphrase, I just can't input anything inside.
 
 Later I tried the pinentry-qt4 and pinentry-curses, there is even no
 popup except telling me bad passphrases.
 
 Thanks ahead for any suggestions?
 
 Best regards, lina

Hi, I had a similar issue with icedove + enigmail with 'Error - bad
passphrase' and 'You are using gpg-agent for passphrase handling.
Clearing the passphrase is therefore not possible from within Enigmail.'

I had logged in on a 2nd virtual terminal which somehow killed the
gpg-agent.  Check your .xsession-errors; I found this:
  running 'pkill -INT ^gpg-agent$;

Check if gpg-agent is running:
~$ ps aux |grep gpg
ralph 3593  0.0  0.0  19352   680 ?Ss   May24   0:15
gpg-agent --daemon --write-env-file /home/ralph/.cache/gpg-agent-info

This is up-to-date stable; uses pinentry-gtk2.

I rebooted to resolve the issue, but I think only gpg-agent needed to be
restarted.

Hope this may help you troubleshoot your issue.

Good luck!
Ralph

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Re: Crypt data on the fly

2014-06-03 Thread Darac Marjal

On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 02:53:26PM +0200, Bzzz wrote:
 On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 10:03:17 +0100
 Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote:
 
[cut]
 
 …
  Yes, but choosing your encryption badly can cause problems. For
  one, as above, bad choices can mean poor security.
 
 So, you're a real cryptanalyst; then, please develop your
 rant about BF.

No, but I read the news, I read wikipedia. Wikipedia says Blowfish is
known to be susceptible to attacks on reflectively weak keys. What if I
happened to use the Dual_EC_DRBG RNG that some big-wig in the government
had recommended to me?

Cryptography is hard. Security by obscurity is not security. Really, the
best policy is to be upfront about what you're doing and how you're
doing it. The counter-intuitive thing about modern cryptography is that
this only makes it stronger.

 
  But also a
  badly chosen encryption scheme might mean unnecessarily large
  diffs (and so more storage/bandwidth on your cloud provider).
 
 Depends what you're looking after: real security or comfort…
 
 At this time, there's no known successful attack against BF.

No, that's true. The closest I've seen is an analysis on BF that
differentiates it from random noise. For some people, being able to
prove that data was encrypted is enough of a problem (I live in a
country where my government can force me to reveal my keys - refusing
or forgetting results in a prison term).


 thinking 448 bits is 3.5 more secure than 128 bits doesn't
 mean nothing (AES 256 bits is considered weaker than 128 bits…)
 provided you have a strong random data generator (otherwise
 not any crypto will long more than a few hours).
 As of today, 128 bits fits all the needs.
 
 Much of people saying: oh, this cryto's not so good, etc
 are either jealous or disinformers, unless they are specialists
 and publish academic papers; a very few are real cryptanalyzers
 because that needs real maths applied to crypto skills.
 
 This is no secret that nsa pushed AES in front of BF, there
 are good reasons for that…
 
 BF have some weakness (some keys aren't that safe) but nobody
 has broken the whole set of rounds, and even if it is an old
 crypto (it works on 8bits µCPU!), it is still one of the best
 there is at this time (and a polyvalent one).
 
 -- 
 You will not censor me through bug terrorism.
   -- James Troup
 
 
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Re: Debian Stable, 3.14.15 kernel, Web cam and Google Hangouts

2014-06-03 Thread The Wanderer

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On 06/02/2014 08:04 PM, Bzzz wrote:

 On Mon, 2 Jun 2014 19:57:00 -0400
 Curt Howland howl...@priss.com wrote:
 
 idVendor=1e4e, idProduct=0110 [ 1678.416476] usb 3-2: New USB
 
 1e4e:0110 doesn't appear in USB IDs list :(
 http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids

If this is the (only) problem, the approach on this page may prove
helpful:

http://www.ha19.no/usb/

Assuming you can identify the driver that should be handling this
device, anyway.

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Re: Debian Stable, 3.14.15 kernel, Web cam and Google Hangouts

2014-06-03 Thread Bzzz

On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 09:17:37 -0400
The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 If this is the (only) problem, the approach on this page may prove
 helpful:
 
 http://www.ha19.no/usb/
 
 Assuming you can identify the driver that should be handling this
 device, anyway.

Nice article, bookmarked :)

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Re: pinentry-gtk2 doesn't react to keyboard input

2014-06-03 Thread lina

surprised to see I have two processes.

$ ps axjf | grep gpg
1  3980  3980  3980 ?   -1 Ss1000   0:00 /usr/bin/gpg-agent
--sh --daemon --write-env-file /home/lina/.cache/gpg-agent-info
1  6109  6109  6109 ?   -1 Ss1000   0:00 /usr/bin/gpg-agent
--sh --daemon --write-env-file /home/lina/.cache/gpg-agent-info
 6223  6739  6738  6223 pts/0 6738 S+1000   0:00  \_ grep
--color=auto gpg


:/tmp$ ls gpg*
gpg-RI3XNy:
S.gpg-agent

gpg-UGEUjm:
S.gpg-agent

$ more /home/lina/.cache/gpg-agent-info
GPG_AGENT_INFO=/tmp/gpg-UGEUjm/S.gpg-agent:6109:1


Well, it doesn't work for me. The pinentry window is dead, kinda of, won't
be able to react my keyboard input, except the cancel/Okay button, might be
some bug.

BTW,

 SIGHUP This signal flushes all cached passphrases and if  the  program
  has  been  started with a configuration file, the
configuration
  file is read again.  Only certain options are  honored:
quiet,
  verbose,  debug, debug-all, debug-level, no-grab,
pinentry-pro‐
  gram, default-cache-ttl, max-cache-ttl,
ignore-cache-for-sign‐
  ing,  allow-mark-trusted,  disable-scdaemon, and
disable-check-
  own-socket.  scdaemon-program is also supported but due to
the
  current  implementation, which calls the scdaemon only once,
it
  is not of much use unless you manually kill the scdaemon.

I don't understand your point of .xsession-error here. Thanks,

On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Ralph Katz ralph.k...@rcn.com wrote:

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 Hash: SHA1

 On 06/02/2014 11:07 PM, lina wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I use icedove + enigmail for encryption with the pinentry-gtk2 as
  gpg-agent in the past.
 
  It worked well until yesterday I added a new email account with new gpg
  key for it.
 
  When the pop-up asked for passphrase, I just can't input anything inside.
 
  Later I tried the pinentry-qt4 and pinentry-curses, there is even no
  popup except telling me bad passphrases.
 
  Thanks ahead for any suggestions?
 
  Best regards, lina

 Hi, I had a similar issue with icedove + enigmail with 'Error - bad
 passphrase' and 'You are using gpg-agent for passphrase handling.
 Clearing the passphrase is therefore not possible from within Enigmail.'

 I had logged in on a 2nd virtual terminal which somehow killed the
 gpg-agent.  Check your .xsession-errors; I found this:
   running 'pkill -INT ^gpg-agent$;

 Check if gpg-agent is running:
 ~$ ps aux |grep gpg
 ralph 3593  0.0  0.0  19352   680 ?Ss   May24   0:15
 gpg-agent --daemon --write-env-file /home/ralph/.cache/gpg-agent-info

 This is up-to-date stable; uses pinentry-gtk2.

 I rebooted to resolve the issue, but I think only gpg-agent needed to be
 restarted.

 Hope this may help you troubleshoot your issue.

 Good luck!
 Ralph

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Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?

 From: Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. 
enable internet access)?

 OK, given your preference for keeping things to a minimum, you may as well do 
 the following.

 If the connection is wired and DHCP is available:
 #0: apt-get install isc-dhcp-client (I'm assuming you have your install CD 
 handy)
 #1: sudo dhclient eth0

 That should be enough to get you an IP, a nameserver and a default route. Try 
 ping -c1 google.com or else ping -c1 8.8.8.8. If the first fails,
 but the second works, append namesever 8.8.8.8 to /etc/resolv.conf

 If the connection is wired, and DHCP is not available (i.e. a static IP is 
 provided)
 #1: ip address add x.x.x.x/yy dev eth0
 #2: ip route add default via z.z.z.z dev eth0
 #3: echo nameserver 8.8.8.8  /etc/resolv.conf

 Where x.x.x.x/yy and z.z.z.z are the ip address (x.x.x.x), netmassk (yy 
 bits) and gateway server (z.z.z.z) that your friend provides.

Thanks for the detailed explanation. I really appreciate it.

What do you think of the following method? (I found it on Google today). Your 
feedback would be appreciated.

*
**How to configure network connection in Linux**

To do so, you need root privileges and _your_favorite_text_editor, as well as 
knowledge of which IP address you need to enter.

To find out which network interface need to be configured, type:

    dmesg | grep -i Eth

and next strings should appear:

    8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.28
    eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xdf822c00, 00:15:f2:51:ad:da, IRQ 21
    eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8101'

It looks like it is eth0 (because ethernet, 0 - zero device, pretty logical). 
Here and below it is assumed that interface is eth0

**Configuring Linux network with static IP**

Just edit the file:

    # nano /etc/network/interfaces
    or
    sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces

For your local network static IPs are surely enough. In particular, for static 
IP networking you need to enter: IP-address, netmask and gateway. Change  
/etc/network/interfaces to something like this:

    auto lo
    iface lo inet loopback

    auto eth0
    iface eth0 inet static
    address 192.168.1.5
    netmask 255.255.255.0
    gateway 192.168.1.1

In this example, IP-address 192.168.1.5 is set.

**Configuring Linux network with dynamic IP addresses**

Continue to edit network config:

    # nano /etc/network/interfaces
    or
    sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces

It is simpler here:

    auto lo
    iface lo inet loopback

    auto eth0
    iface eth0 inet dhcp

Similarly, network interface can be configured via command line:

    #dhcpcd eth0

For this, you should install in Debian aptitude install dhcp3-client.

**Configuring DNS nameserver in Linux**

If you don't configure DNS, you cannot connect to any Internet resource by it's 
name. But it's very simple to tweak it: just edit or create file 
/etc/resolv.conf

    # nano /etc/resolv.conf
    or
    sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf

And type addresses like this:

    nameserver   192.168.1.1
    nameserver   192.168.2.1

as much as it is need. The word nameserver is required. It is curious, but in 
fresh Debian installation there is no resolv.conf...

For changes to take place immediately...

... one can reboot the system, or type:

    # /etc/init.d/networking restart 
    or
    sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart 

That's all, changes will be applied for all network interfaces.
*

Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies

 From: The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies

 That depends on a number of other factors.

 Literally speaking, dpkg will simply unpack the package's files 
 into...

 If the preinst, postinst, or other processing scripts rely on the.

 If one of the files installed by the package is already on the 
 system,..

 Once the --force install is complete, if you try to run the 
 installed.

I appreciate your taking the time to write a detailed explanation. I feel I'm 
more educated already :)

Re: pinentry-gtk2 doesn't react to keyboard input

2014-06-03 Thread Ralph Katz

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On 06/03/2014 10:17 AM, lina wrote:
 
 surprised to see I have two processes.
 
 $ ps axjf | grep gpg
 1  3980  3980  3980 ?   -1 Ss1000   0:00
 /usr/bin/gpg-agent --sh --daemon --write-env-file
 /home/lina/.cache/gpg-agent-info
 1  6109  6109  6109 ?   -1 Ss1000   0:00
 /usr/bin/gpg-agent --sh --daemon --write-env-file
 /home/lina/.cache/gpg-agent-info
  6223  6739  6738  6223 pts/0 6738 S+1000   0:00  \_ grep
 --color=auto gpg
 
 
 :/tmp$ ls gpg*
 gpg-RI3XNy:
 S.gpg-agent
 
 gpg-UGEUjm:
 S.gpg-agent
 
 $ more /home/lina/.cache/gpg-agent-info
 GPG_AGENT_INFO=/tmp/gpg-UGEUjm/S.gpg-agent:6109:1
 
 
 Well, it doesn't work for me. The pinentry window is dead, kinda of,
 won't be able to react my keyboard input, except the cancel/Okay button,
 might be some bug.
 
 BTW,
 
  SIGHUP This signal flushes all cached passphrases and if  the  program
   has  been  started with a configuration file, the
 configuration
   file is read again.  Only certain options are  honored: 
 quiet,
   verbose,  debug, debug-all, debug-level, no-grab,
 pinentry-pro‐
   gram, default-cache-ttl, max-cache-ttl, 
 ignore-cache-for-sign‐
   ing,  allow-mark-trusted,  disable-scdaemon, and
 disable-check-
   own-socket.  scdaemon-program is also supported but due
 to  the
   current  implementation, which calls the scdaemon only
 once, it
   is not of much use unless you manually kill the scdaemon.
 
 I don't understand your point of .xsession-error here. Thanks,
 

Hi lina,  please don't top-post because it makes the thread hard to
follow.  Also, please note debian list policy on html:

https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct
 Never send your messages in HTML; use plain text instead.

My point on the .xsession-error was only that for me, it provided a key
clue.  I'm certainly no expert, but your two gpg-agent processes seem
suspect.  Why would there be two?  Maybe kill the one that is not in
your .cache/gpg-agent-info and see if that helps.  Otherwise, I have no
clue.

Good luck!
Ralph


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Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?

On Tue 03 Jun 2014 at 07:19:08 -0700, Horatio Leragon wrote:

  From: Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk
  OK, given your preference for keeping things to a minimum, you may
  as well do the following.

[snip]

 Thanks for the detailed explanation. I really appreciate it.
 
 What do you think of the following method? (I found it on Google
 today). Your feedback would be appreciated.
 
 *
 
 It is simpler here:
 
     auto lo
     iface lo inet loopback
 
     auto eth0
     iface eth0 inet dhcp

Forget about static configuration; this is what will suit you with a
wired connection.
 
 ... one can reboot the system, or type:
 
     # /etc/init.d/networking restart 
     or
     sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart 

  ifdown -v ethX

and

  ifup -v ethX

is enough.

Or reboot.

 *

I wish the Debian Reference told us things like this and was available
on t'internet. :)


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Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?

On Mon 02 Jun 2014 at 22:47:07 +0200, hoh...@arcor.de wrote:

 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote (Sun, 1 Jun 2014 19:49:34 +0100):
  
  I'll let you decide whether you need to modify your statement or the
  wiki to conform with reality.
 
 So listen: SW and websites are artificial and subject to continuous
 change, not reality. Lach.

Apologies. I forgot to offer the third choice - adopt and present some
facile argument not based on facts.


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Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies

2014-06-03 Thread Joe

On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 12:08:13 +0300
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Du, 01 iun 14, 15:36:37, Joe wrote:
  
  Not wishing to add confusion, but you may also find references to
  'dpkg'. This is the low-level package tool that all the apt tools
  are front-ends for. It does no dependency checking,
 
 Maybe you didn't mean it this way, but dpkg does indeed do dependency 
 checking. When provided with a bunch of .deb files to install it will 
 take care of proper ordering when needed (Depends:, Pre-Depends:,
 etc.) and will refuse to install packages without satisfied
 dependencies unless --force switches are used.
 
 I think it's more accurate to say dpkg only handles files (be it .deb 
 archives or files originating from .deb archives). It has no
 knowledge of archives, repositories, etc.
 

Yes, what I should have written was 'doesn't automatically resolve all
dependencies', as the apt tools (mostly) do.

  and will do exactly
  what you tell it to do, so it is somewhat dangerous to use. It can
  do things the apt tools cannot, however, (the man page is quite
  large) so you may occasionally need to resort to using it,
  *carefully*. 
 
 The apt tools are useless without dpkg, however, dpkg will happily 
 install .deb files downloaded by any other means.
 
Yes, I use that if I need to downgrade, as the old package can be
difficult to find in the repositories. But I have occasionally used it
to clear a logjam that the apt tools won't shift.

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Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies

On Tue 03 Jun 2014 at 19:00:46 +0100, Joe wrote:

 On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 12:08:13 +0300
 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Du, 01 iun 14, 15:36:37, Joe wrote:
   
   Not wishing to add confusion, but you may also find references to
   'dpkg'. This is the low-level package tool that all the apt tools
   are front-ends for. It does no dependency checking,
  
  Maybe you didn't mean it this way, but dpkg does indeed do dependency 
  checking. When provided with a bunch of .deb files to install it will 
  take care of proper ordering when needed (Depends:, Pre-Depends:,
  etc.) and will refuse to install packages without satisfied
  dependencies unless --force switches are used.
  
  I think it's more accurate to say dpkg only handles files (be it .deb 
  archives or files originating from .deb archives). It has no
  knowledge of archives, repositories, etc.
  
 
 Yes, what I should have written was 'doesn't automatically resolve all
 dependencies', as the apt tools (mostly) do.

The advent of apt was a gigantic step forward for Debian. The interplay
between dpkg and apt is still (to me) quite marvellous. Get a .deb from
somewhere (Skype, for example) and

   dpkg -i package

followed by

   apt-get -f install

gets everything sorted.

(I expect aptitude does the same, but I am unfamiliar with it).


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Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-03 Thread Bob Proulx

Brian wrote:
 Vincent Lefevre wrote:
  Brian wrote:
   I looked in the place that startx and the DMs look with a default
   install of X. Which is not to deny your valid point. However. a user
   would have to put in the extra effort to use .Xdefaults-hostname or,
   if they know it is possible, a .Xresources directory. I'm of the opinion
   that for most use cases mentioning .Xdefaults causes confusion at the
   very least.
  
  There's no extra effort to use .Xdefaults-hostname: it's hardcoded
  in libX11.

Actually all of .Xdefaults and .Xdefaults-$(hostname) and the
equivalent of .Xresources because it checks for dpy-xdefaults == NULL
are all hard coded in libx11.  And so all work in their own cases.

Previously written:
 Debian doesn't use a .Xdefaults file.

brian@desktop:~$ grep -r Xresources /etc/X11/
/etc/X11/Xsession:SYSRESOURCES=/etc/X11/Xresources
/etc/X11/Xsession:USRRESOURCES=$HOME/.Xresources

True.  But that is the default setting for 'startx'.  And for the
other xdb graphical login managers.  The .Xdefaults file is still used
if you avoid using 'startx'.  If you log in and simply use 'xinit'
without the startx wrapper around it and *don't* use xrdb yourself in
$HOME/.xinitrc then the $HOME/.Xdefaults is still consulted.  If you
have ever used xrdb to load resources into memory then .Xdefaults is
never consulted.  It is rather involved.

 Fair enough. Now, if only users were advised to use .Xdefaults-hostname
 or .Xresources. Instead the choice is always .Xdefaults or .Xresources.
 As I think we are agreed, one of these doesn't work. Ok, it can be made
 to work; for example I've seen linking .Xresources and .Xdefaults as a
 solution but have never quite grasped why .Xresource by itself is
 unsatisfactory.

Both work in different cases.  There are something like a half dozen
different locations that X resource data can be stored.  An X program
will look through each location in turn in priority order.  But if one
is shadowed by the other then one will appear not to work.

I posted on this topic before so instead of annoying the list with
a long posting I will simply point to the previous postings and
perhaps score them up in the search engines better.

  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/09/msg01385.html

  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/02/msg00395.html

This is what the code actually says now:

XrmInitialize();

/*
 * See lib/Xt/Initialize.c
 *
 * First, get the defaults from the server; if none, then load from
 * ~/.Xdefaults.  Next, if there is an XENVIRONMENT environment variable,
 * then load that file.
 */

if (dpy-xdefaults == NULL) {
const char *slashDotXdefaults = /.Xdefaults;

(void) GetHomeDir (fname, PATH_MAX - strlen (slashDotXdefaults) - 1);
(void) strcat (fname, slashDotXdefaults);
xdb = XrmGetFileDatabase (fname);
} else {
xdb = XrmGetStringDatabase(dpy-xdefaults);
}

if (!(xenv = getenv (XENVIRONMENT))) {
const char *slashDotXdefaultsDash = /.Xdefaults-;
int len;

(void) GetHomeDir (fname, PATH_MAX - strlen (slashDotXdefaultsDash) - 
1);
(void) strcat (fname, slashDotXdefaultsDash);
len = strlen (fname);
(void) _XGetHostname (fname+len, PATH_MAX-len);
xenv = fname;
}
userdb = XrmGetFileDatabase (xenv);
XrmMergeDatabases (userdb, xdb);
return (xdb);

I recommend using .Xresources loaded into the xrdb at start time.  It
makes the most general sense to me.  That way customizations are a
property of your $DISPLAY and not a property of your $HOME.  But
either works if you understand the search and merge order.

Bob


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Re: cryptsetup problem

2014-06-03 Thread Bob Proulx

Andrew McGlashan wrote:
 [ 3839.679711] INFO: task kworker/3:3:392 blocked for more than 120 seconds.

This message and the ones that follow seem the most concerning to me.

First, I don't know.  If I were having those messages I would suspect
that my hardware was having problems.  Or that the kernel was not
driving the hardware correctly.  A bad kernel driver could do this.

I would do various things to convince myself that the hardware was
okay.  I would try booting different kernels including older kernels.
A lot of hardware support that used to be reliable has been rewritten
in recent kernels.  Moving back to an older kernel may be a better
match for your hardware.

I once had a system that threw similar errors and I eventually found a
combination that avoided the problem.  In my case it was somehow
related to using XFS.  I have otherwise used XFS quite happily for
years on other systems so this is not a ding against XFS but against
some combination on my system that was not happy.  Hopefully you will
be able to find a way to avoid whatever combination is prickling you
too.  Are you using XFS on your system?  If so then try using a
different file system type.

Good luck,
Bob


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Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?

2014-06-03 Thread Bob Proulx

Horatio Leragon wrote:
 What do you think of the following method? (I found it on Google today). Your 
 feedback would be appreciated.
 ...
 dmesg | grep -i Eth
 and next strings should appear:
 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.28
 eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xdf822c00, 00:15:f2:51:ad:da, IRQ 21
 eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8101'

That assumes you have that hardware.  Other hardware will show up with
their own id strings.

 ...
 auto eth0

Better to use allow-hotplug there instead of auto.

 iface eth0 inet dhcp
 ...
 Similarly, network interface can be configured via command line:
 
 #dhcpcd eth0

There isn't a dhcpcd command in Debian.  You must be using a
different system with the above notes.

If you are using /etc/network/interfaces then you really should use
ifup and ifdown for this purpose.  Which means instead of the
above use:

  # ifdown eth0

  # ifup eth0

 For this, you should install in Debian aptitude install dhcp3-client.

On Debian that would be isc-dhcp-client.

 If you don't configure DNS, you cannot connect to any Internet
 resource by it's name.

That is only true if you are using static IP assignment.  If you use
static IP assignment then you must fully configure the system
yourself.  I like the resolvconf package and then configuring it in
/etc/network/interfaces too using dns-nameservers.

If you use DHCP then it will configure /etc/resolv.conf for you
automatically.  That is rather the entire point of DHCP (Dynamic Host
Configuration Protocol) in that it will dynamically configure the
host.

 But it's very simple to tweak it: just edit or create file
 /etc/resolv.conf
 
 # nano /etc/resolv.conf
 or
 sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
 
 And type addresses like this:
 
 nameserver   192.168.1.1
 nameserver   192.168.2.1
 
 as much as it is need.

Please let the file be managed by DHCP.  It is simpler.

 The word nameserver is required.

Strictly speaking no.  Although that is the major use of it.  See the
documentation for details.

  man resolv.conf

 It is curious, but in fresh Debian installation there is no
 resolv.conf...

Only if there is no networking configured.  If you don't configure
networking then you don't need /etc/resolv.conf.  If you do such as
through DHCP then it will be set up for you automatically.

 For changes to take place immediately...
 
 ... one can reboot the system, or type:
 
 # /etc/init.d/networking restart 
 or
 sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart 

With the addition of service it closes some linger potential
problems using the /etc/init.d/foo path from the command line.  Such
as cleaning the environment so that your personal environment does not
affect the process environment.  It makes for a nice safety net making
things slightly more reliable.  Instead of the above use:

  # service networking restart

However that is the old way and only applies with the use of auto.
But so much has moved to the event driven hotplugged system that I
recommend you use allow-hotplug instead of auto as the event
driven side of things is much better tested these days.  In which case:

  # ifdown eth0

  # ifup eth0

Here is some documentation from the Debian Reference concerning this:

  
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_basic_network_configuration_with_ifupdown_legacy

Bob


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Re: upgrade? broke exim4

2014-06-03 Thread Mike McClain

Mihamina Rakotomandimby mihamina.rakotomandi...@rktmb.org wrote:
 Does your Exim listen on IPv4 localhost?

I think so. At leastwhen I run 'do netstat -tlpn | grep :25', I see:
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:250.0.0.0:* LISTEN  22669/exim4
until exim4 quits since it can't connect to port 25 leaving this:
socket bind() to port 25 for address ::1 failed:
Cannot assign requested address: daemon abandoned
in /var/log/exim4/paniclog.

Can anyone suggest what's necessary to connect to port 25?
I've compared a month old backups copy of /etc/* to what's there today
but see no differences that would account for losing the ability
to grab email.
Thanks,
Mike
PS: I suspect I'm breaking the mail chain but see no choice. I'm
subscribed to the digest and don't know how to get Webmail to reply
to the list so am replying to my first message that is in mutt's sent
mail.
Sorry,
Mike
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Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

On Tue 03 Jun 2014 at 13:45:14 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:

  Debian doesn't use a .Xdefaults file.
 
 brian@desktop:~$ grep -r Xresources /etc/X11/
 /etc/X11/Xsession:SYSRESOURCES=/etc/X11/Xresources
 /etc/X11/Xsession:USRRESOURCES=$HOME/.Xresources
 
 True.  But that is the default setting for 'startx'.  And for the
 other xdb graphical login managers.  The .Xdefaults file is still used
 if you avoid using 'startx'.  If you log in and simply use 'xinit'
 without the startx wrapper around it and *don't* use xrdb yourself in
 $HOME/.xinitrc then the $HOME/.Xdefaults is still consulted.  If you
 have ever used xrdb to load resources into memory then .Xdefaults is
 never consulted.  It is rather involved.

The quality of the information in this subthread is impressive. The
fact though is that most users do not avoid startx or a DM. Anyone who
uses xinit has gone to some trouble to avoid either of these two ways of
getting X running. You would expect them to know what they are doing.

Those who use startx etc have some expectation of being provided with
uncomplicated correct information. Being told to use ~/.Xdefaults isn't
in that category. The sooner any mention of it or .xinitrc in Debian is
stamped out the better.

This has been going on for at least 10 years. If only the ~/.Xdefaults
advocates would say why and how they use it - but they never do. X is
versatile but nobody is going to go wrong by using ~/.Xresources.

 I recommend using .Xresources loaded into the xrdb at start time.  It
 makes the most general sense to me.  That way customizations are a
 property of your $DISPLAY and not a property of your $HOME.  But
 either works if you understand the search and merge order.

I think we are singing from the same hymn book but we are on different
pages. :)


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Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-03 Thread Filip

Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes:

 I recommend using .Xresources loaded into the xrdb at start time.  It
 makes the most general sense to me.  That way customizations are a
 property of your $DISPLAY and not a property of your $HOME.  But
 either works if you understand the search and merge order.

 Bob

Yeah, I guess when you start X application that run on a remote machine,
it can get ugly really fast when you need to figure what resources will
actually be used if you rely on anything else than .Xresources.

Because, if I understand correctly, it will look for some resources in
files on the remote machine (for example if you set XENVIRONMENT on the
remote server), but for the .Xresources it will will use the values on
the local system.

So yeah, don't complicate your life more than is needed and stick to
.Xresources and xrdb.


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Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?

 From: Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 1:41 AM
Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. 
enable internet access)?

 I wish the Debian Reference told us things like this and was available on 
 t'internet. :)

I'm puzzled by your weird behavior, Brian. The above statement of yours 
contradicts what you advised me earlier in 2 replies of 1 June and 1 reply of 2 
June 2014. In the latter your advice for me was to look up the man interfaces 
and Debian Reference Manual.

Now in the latest reply, you admitted that the Debian Reference is deficient: 
I wish the Debian Reference told us things like this and was available on 
t'internet. :)

Weird.

Re: Crypt data on the fly

2014-06-03 Thread André Nunes Batista

On Mon, 2014-06-02 at 19:24 -0700, ty wrote:
 On 06/02/2014 09:32 AM, L.M.J wrote:
  Hi,
 
This may be a nasty/bad idea, but I still ask :
I sync my data to a cloud storage online service. I do NOT want to
 crypt my 60GB data at home, but I want
them crypted on the cloud, so, when I rsync the data, I would like
 to send encrypted files on the fly.
I want to have encrypted files, not rsync a 60GB encrypted partition.
 
Any ideas ?
 
   Thanks
 
 
 
 Perhaps duplicity? Needs a gpg key to encrypt the backup
 man duplicity -  duplicity - Encrypted incremental backup to local or
 remote storage.
 
 Something like..
 duplicity --encrypt-key KEY-ID /source/dir rsync://u...@other.host/some_dir
 
 Creates a full backup the first time, then all subsequent ones are
 incremental changes.
 

Sometime ago I wrote a perl script as a learning exercise that also
returned something useful to me - I'm still using it for my backup
needs. I called it dupit, because it's just a minimal front end to
duplicity. It's purpose is to create duplicity profiles, aka a bunch
of strings that are arguments to duplicity, to be run by a cron job that
is configured on the setup fase of the profile.

To setup a profile, just run $ dupit -s $profilename. You will be asked
for the arguments for duplicity on sensible, verbose, terms.

Then dupit -b $profilename to backup and dupit -l $profilename to
list settings. $dupit -h or $man help for a longer description of
its capabilities and limitations compared to duplicity.

More info:

https://gitorious.org/dupit

PS: There you also will find a link for similar software.

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Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies

 From: Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 2:22 AM
Subject: Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies

 The advent of apt was a gigantic step forward for Debian. The interplay 
 between dpkg and apt is still (to me) quite marvellous. 
 Get a .deb from somewhere (Skype, for example) and

 dpkg -i package

 followed by

 apt-get -f install

 gets everything sorted.

The command

apt-get -f install

means a force install, am I correct?

Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?

 From: Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 4:43 AM
Subject: Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. 
enable internet access)?

Thanks, Bob, for the detailed explanation and tips.

 That assumes you have that hardware.  Other hardware will show up with their 
 own id strings.

Sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean by That assumes you have that 
hardware ? I have the network card installed in my machine.

 Better to use allow-hotplug there instead of auto.

Do you mean:

allow-hotplug eth0

 There isn't a dhcpcd command in Debian.  You must be using a different 
 system with the above notes.

The above command is copied from the following guide: 
http://debianletters.blogspot.com/2008/01/howto-simply-configure-network-card-in.html

You have me confused. Either you are right or the writer of the said guide is 
wrong.

 On Debian that would be isc-dhcp-client.

The writer of the guide states that it (the guide) is for Debian users. And 
you're telling me he's wrong.

I'm really confused.

I think I need a second opinion.

Re: Post-installation: how to auto-configure network adapter (ie. enable internet access)?

On Tue 03 Jun 2014 at 15:45:16 -0700, Horatio Leragon wrote:

  From: Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk
 
  I wish the Debian Reference told us things like this and was available on
  t'internet. :)
 
 I'm puzzled by your weird behavior, Brian. The above statement of yours
 contradicts what you advised me earlier in 2 replies of 1 June and 1 reply of
 2 June 2014. In the latter your advice for me was to look up the man
 interfaces and Debian Reference Manual.

Life is full of apparent contradictions

 Now in the latest reply, you admitted that the Debian Reference is deficient:
 I wish the Debian Reference told us things like this and was available on
 t'internet. :)

You would have to read chapter 5 of the Reference. Concentrate on the
dhcp part. It'd basically two lines in /etc/network/interfaces. We are
looking forward to the outcome when you visit your friend,


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Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies