Re: at-get bloqué sur Lecture des listes de paquets... 0%
Le samedi 13 décembre 2014 à 21:31 +0100, maderios a écrit : On 12/13/2014 04:24 PM, Yann COHEN wrote: Et cette option de debug? apt-get -o debug::pkgproblemresolver=true dist-upgrade Bonjour, Pas mieux. root@sky:~# apt-get -o debug::pkgproblemresolver=true dist-upgrade Lecture des listes de paquets… 0% Et là ça reste bloqué? Si c'est le cas, je me trompe peut-être, mais il faut attendre. Certaines opérations demandent du temps. Pour être certain je viens de le relancé, mais par longtemps il faut attendre combien de temps ? je l'ai déjà laissé +ieurs heure (lancé le matin avant de partir au boulot et en fin apm tjs au même point). En plus, le script apticron est lancé sur cette machin et il coince de la même façon. -- Maderios -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1418545564.845.23.ca...@ianco.org
Re: at-get bloqué sur Lecture des listes de paquets... 0%
Le samedi 13 décembre 2014 à 16:36 +0100, Michel a écrit : Le 13/12/2014 16:30, Yann COHEN a écrit : root@sky:~# apt-get -o debug::pkgproblemresolver=true dist-upgrade Lecture des listes de paquets… 0% Question peut-être sans importance, mais as-tu une activité processeur importante ou pas ? Lorsque apt-get est lancé, la machine reste avecune activité faible. apt-get uilise 0,7% de la CPU d'après top. avec une charge user moyenne de 2,7% Yann. Michel -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1418545878.845.25.ca...@ianco.org
Re: at-get bloqué sur Lecture des listes de paquets... 0%
Bonjour, Comme cela t'a été conseillé, essaie d'utiliser strace ... on a pas vu de réponse à cette proposition. Si strace n'est pas installé sur ta machine, récupères le .deb 'à la main' dans les dépôts debian, décompresse et met le fichier binaire dans un dossier bin référencé dans $PATH, puis fait un strace apt-get update -- Guy -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548d5d4c.4050...@teledetection.fr
Re: raspberry : Pb avec clé USB, 'nl80211' generic netlink not found
Le Sat, 13 Dec 2014 16:50:02 +0100, Yann COHEN a écrit : Cela fait deux clé que je teste sur la framboise et dans le deux cas j'ai le même phénomène dans les traces 'nl80211' generic netlink not found a voir sur le forum français de raspberry : http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=65 à priori la clé marche out of the box. http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php? f=91t=93029p=648909hilit=Realtek+RTL8188CUS#p648909 bonne pêche. pour démarrer mon /etc/network/interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet dhcp auto wlan0 allow-hotplug wlan0 #iface wlan0 inet manual iface wlan0 inet static address 192.168.xx.xx netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.xx.xx wpa-ssid xxx wpa-psk xx -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548d6ada$0$1985$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: raspberry : Pb avec clé USB, 'nl80211' generic netlink not found
Le Sat, 13 Dec 2014 16:50:02 +0100, Yann COHEN a écrit : Cela fait deux clé que je teste sur la framboise et dans le deux cas j'ai le même phénomène dans les traces 'nl80211' generic netlink not found Cela ne semble pas venir du firmware... va sur les forums raspberrypi.org il y en a un en français. à ce que j'ai vu ta clé marche out of the box essaie de la configurer par l'interface graphique. dans ta config il faut une ligne dans /etc/network/interfaces pour le wpa -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548d6d87$0$2112$426a7...@news.free.fr
[Resolu] Touche gros doigts, Re: raspberry : Pb avec clé USB, 'nl80211' generic netlink not found
Bonjour, Le problème ne vient pas du raspberry sous debian, mais de la configuration de wpa_supplicant. Et plus exactement fait de mon idiotie : je ne suis trompé sur l'écriture du ssid en mettant des majuscules où il n'en a pas ! Désolé pour le bruit... -- Yann COHEN y...@ianco.org ianco -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1418559706.845.36.ca...@ianco.org
Crash de gftp
Bonjour, Sur une wheezy amd64, il y a déjà quelques mois déjà que gftp plante des que l'on se connecte à un serveur. Je me suis dit que ça s'arrangerait à la prochaine mise à jour, et j'ai utilisé mc à la place. Les messages qu'il donne ( si on le lance depuis une console ) sont: michel@Ariane:~$ gftp Fontconfig warning: /etc/fonts/conf.d/65-droid-sans-fonts.conf, line 103: Having multiple values in test isn't supported and may not work as expected Fontconfig warning: /etc/fonts/conf.d/65-droid-sans-fonts.conf, line 138: Having multiple values in test isn't supported and may not work as expected Attempt to unlock mutex that was not locked Abandon michel@Ariane:~$ Il n'y a rien de choquant pourtant dans le fichier 65-droid-sans-fonts.conf. Quelqu’un a noté la même chose ou le problème est-il sur ma machine? Cordialement Michel -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548daa65$0$2062$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: at-get bloqué sur Lecture des listes de paquets... 0%
Oups désolé pour le retard, mais le déjeuner du dimanche midi...
voici les dernières lgnes de strace sur la commande
./strace apt-get -o debug::pkgproblemresolver=true dist-upgrade
open(/var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 6
fcntl64(6, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0
fstat64(6, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=22069659, ...}) = 0
fstat64(6, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=22069659, ...}) = 0
read(6,
la dernière ligne est telle que visible sur la console.
Une destruction de srcpkgcache.bin ne fait rien à l'affaire...
Yann.
Le dimanche 14 décembre 2014 à 10:50 +0100, Guy Roussin a écrit :
Bonjour,
Comme cela t'a été conseillé, essaie d'utiliser strace ... on a pas vu
de réponse à cette proposition.
Si strace n'est pas installé sur ta machine, récupères le .deb 'à la main'
dans les dépôts debian, décompresse et met le fichier binaire dans un
dossier bin référencé dans $PATH, puis fait un strace apt-get update
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Re: at-get bloqué sur Lecture des listes de paquets... 0%
Bonjour, Le dimanche 14 décembre 2014, Yann COHEN a écrit... Oups désolé pour le retard, mais le déjeuner du dimanche midi... voici les dernières lgnes de strace sur la commande ./strace apt-get -o debug::pkgproblemresolver=true dist-upgrade Il faudrait lancer strace avec l'option -f, et -o fichier_de_log, comme je l'ai indiqué dans mon premier courriel à ce sujet. C'est plus simple pour analyser ensuite fichier_de_log -- jm -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141214180508.GA7283@espinasse
Re: at-get bloqué sur Lecture des listes de paquets... 0%
Bonjour, Je ne suis pas sûr de le comprendre, cependant j'ai coupé l'exécution car la trace ne faisait qu'augmenter avec le même message d'erreur me semble-t-il. Yann. Le dimanche 14 décembre 2014 à 19:05 +0100, Jean-Michel OLTRA a écrit : Bonjour, Le dimanche 14 décembre 2014, Yann COHEN a écrit... Oups désolé pour le retard, mais le déjeuner du dimanche midi... voici les dernières lgnes de strace sur la commande ./strace apt-get -o debug::pkgproblemresolver=true dist-upgrade Il faudrait lancer strace avec l'option -f, et -o fichier_de_log, comme je l'ai indiqué dans mon premier courriel à ce sujet. C'est plus simple pour analyser ensuite fichier_de_log -- jm strace.out.bz2 Description: application/bzip
Re: at-get bloqué sur Lecture des listes de paquets... 0%
Bonjour,
Le lundi 15 décembre 2014, Yann COHEN a écrit...
Je ne suis pas sûr de le comprendre, cependant j'ai coupé l'exécution
car la trace ne faisait qu'augmenter avec le même message d'erreur me
semble-t-il.
Je viens de tester, chez moi :
strace -f -o strace.log aptitude update
Evidemment, chez moi, la commande n´échoue pas ! Mais les seules
références à srcpkgcache.bin sont :
7783 stat(/var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644,
st_size=38148824, ...}) = 0
7783 unlink(/var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin) = 0
7783 stat(/var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin,
{st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=38086801, ...}) = 0
7783 unlink(/var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin) = 0
7783 stat(/var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin, 0x7fff566b5680) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
7783 open(/var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin.6sGT0p,
O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_EXCL, 0600) = 5
7783 rename(/var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin.6sGT0p,
/var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin) = 0
Aptitude n'essaie donc pas de le lire avec read(). Tu peux essayer
aptitude ?
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Re: at-get bloqué sur Lecture des listes de paquets… 0%
On 12/12/2014 10:38 AM, Yann COHEN wrote: J'ai supprimé le fichier de lock/var/lib/dpkg/lock. C'est peut-être là le nœud de l'affaire = commence par (re)créer le fichier vide /var/lib/dpkg/lock permissions root root chmod 640 -- Maderios -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548e89f7.5070...@gmail.com
¿gdebi y shotwell autodesinstalables?
Pues eso me dice synaptic desde las ultimas actualizaciones realizadas a Jessie. Normalmente, cuando me ha pasado con librerías, las he desinstalado sin más, sin problemas aparentes... Sin embargo, con estos no me atrevo... No sé si es que gnome va a sustituir estos programas o que, pero me parece extraño que estén marcados como autodesinstalables... ¿Que hago? ¿Desinstalo, o ignoro el mensaje de autodesinstalable? Gracias -- www.LinuxCounter.net Registered user #558467 has 2 linux machines -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/m6jv0p$mhm$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Sobre manejar archivos recuperados con photorec
El Sat, 13 Dec 2014 14:31:04 -0430, Miguel Matos escribió: El día 13 de diciembre de 2014, 14:00, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Fri, 12 Dec 2014 22:36:49 -0430, Miguel Matos escribió: Saludos a la lista y la gente más lista también. :-D Ahorita he decidido retomar de nuevo la reorganización de los archivos que he recuperado con photorec tras la invisibilización de los mismos cuando casi pierdo mi partición. Sin embargo, todavía no puedo resolver una duda: ¿exactamente con qué se abren los archivos con formatos .elf, .a, .o, .pl, .pyc, .class y .jar? Al menos para saber de qué archivos se tratan. (...) Prueba con file archivo.extension, te adará información sobre el tipo MIME pero vamos... pl es un archivo de perl (texto), class y jar son java, pyc suena a pyhton y elf y o son archivos ejecutables (binarios). Del a no tengo idea... Google dice que es un tipo de archivo (bibliotecas) generado por la herramienta ar :-? Vale pues, intentaré explicarles en pocas palabras el objetivo final: (...) A mí al menos me ha quedado claro. 3. Lo que yo quiero es saber qué hacen los archivos de cuyas extensiones desconozco. Por ello tengo la duda es de, principalmente, los .a, .o, .class (aunque sé que es de java, hace falta algo para ejecutarlo), .py, y principalmente, .elf (que es lo que más abunda en el rescate de los archivos). Hombre, pues claro que necesitas algo para ejecutarlos: un intérprete. A ver, los archivos java (class y jar) se pueden ejecutar con la JVM/JRE/ JSE que tengas instalada. Ahora bien, suelen ser archivos que no se ejecutan de manera individual sino que pertenecen a una aplicación (la ruta de los archivos recuperados te dirá de qué aplicación se trata). Los archivos de Python necesitan... pues que tengas instalado Python y el archivo pl pues lo mismo, se ejecuta (si es que quieres ejecutarlo, porque raramente van solos) con Perl ;-) En cuanto a los elf y o (binarios) no creo que puedas ejecutarlos directamente y los a pues requerirán de la aplicación que los genera (ar). Todos estos archivos (excepto los de java) parecen ser archivos de sistema no de datos, vamos, que no le veo mucho sentido a querer abrirlos. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.12.14.15.53...@gmail.com
Re: ¿gdebi y shotwell autodesinstalables?
El Sun, 14 Dec 2014 13:15:22 +0100, Eduardo Rios escribió: Pues eso me dice synaptic desde las ultimas actualizaciones realizadas a Jessie. Acostumbraros a incluir los mensajes que os devuelven las aplicaciones, es importante saber de qué se queja o qué quiere hacer exactamente aptitude. Hum... espera ¿has dicho Synaptic? ¿Quieres decir que cuando ejecutas Synaptic te aparece algún mensaje? :-? Normalmente, cuando me ha pasado con librerías, las he desinstalado sin más, sin problemas aparentes... Sin embargo, con estos no me atrevo... No sé si es que gnome va a sustituir estos programas o que, pero me parece extraño que estén marcados como autodesinstalables... ¿Que hago? ¿Desinstalo, o ignoro el mensaje de autodesinstalable? Bueno, yo lo ignoraría de momento porque no sé qué quiere decir exactamente con audodesinstalable (traducción horrible, por cierto). Pasa olímpicamente de Synaptic y ejecuta mejor apt-get -f install a ver si éste se queja de algo y de qué, exactamente. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.12.14.16.03...@gmail.com
Shorewall (ers: Gateway Postfix para varios dominios)
El Sat, 13 Dec 2014 10:50:14 -0500, Lic. Manuel Salgado escribió: Te corrijo el top-posting y edito el asunto para reflejar el cambio de tema. El 6/12/14, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Fri, 05 Dec 2014 16:00:17 -0500, Lic. Manuel Salgado escribió: Alguien me podria ayudar en mi proposito? Tengo una pasarela con postfix en mi red. Esta gestiona el correo del dominio dominio1.com. Necesito que esta pasarela sea capaz de gestionar el correo de otros dos dominios, por ejemplo dominio2.com, dominio3.com http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html No te puedo especificar más porque según el tipo de cuentas que uses tendrás que editar una variable u otra. Gracias por tu atención, colega y a los demás por su tiempo. ya he revisado la configuración de Postfix al respecto y me he percatado que esta funcionando Ok. Pues muy bien :-) El problema ahora es con Shorewall. Resulta que en esta pasarela también hay filtrado de paquetes y se hace NAT hacia una DMZ. Alguien podría darme una mano en esta parte, pues realmente no tengo idea de como lograrlo. Tienes documentación en la web de Shorewall, con ejemplos de instalaciones y configuraciones varias: http://shorewall.net/GettingStarted.html Les ilustro un poco más mi escenario: Tengo el postfix en cuestion en un server que hace funcion de gateway en mi red hacia LAN, DMZ y WAN. Tengo en la DMZ dos servidores de correo que responden a dos dominios distintos del mismo nivel: dominio1.com y dominio2.com. Ya en el postfix de la pasarela se han configurado los transport maps y se ha comprobado su correcto funcionamiento hacia los dos dominios de la DMZ, pero estoy haciendo NAT hacia el puerto 25 de uno de esos servidores. Creo que la solución podría estar en decirle a shorewall que redirija a los puertos 25 en funcion del dominio que se trate. Tal vez este hablando burradas, pero estoy abierto a sugerencias y / o criticas en busca de una solución. Gracias a todos una vez mas. ¿Cuál es el problema que tienes, exactamente? Una DMZ es una zona completamente abierta en el cortafuegos donde se permite todo el tráfico (entrada/salida) sin restricciones. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.12.14.16.09...@gmail.com
Re: Fwd: fglrx-driver
El Sat, 13 Dec 2014 13:54:56 -0600, AbeL escribió: Ahora que ya sabes cómo enviar los mensajes en texto plano sólo te queda saber cómo evitar el top-posting, es decir, cómo responder *debajo* de los mensajes no arriba, como haces. si tienes alguna dificultad para hacerlo entonces no se sí podrás resolver el problema con el driver de la gráfica :-) 2014-12-13 12:34 GMT-06:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Sat, 13 Dec 2014 09:59:19 -0600, AbeL escribió: Hola buenos días, me podrías explicar como enviar los mensajes sin html? (...) Sí, claro: Cómo enviar mensajes a la lista usando un formato de texto plano https://wiki.debian.org/es/DebianMailingLists#C.2BAPM- mo_enviar_mensajes_a_la_lista_usando_un_formato_de_texto_plano Te platico que no he podido echar a andar el driver privativo fglrx. Acabo de formatear e instale el paquete fglrx-driver de los repositorios de jessie, configure de base el xorg.conf que viene en la pagina de wiki y cheque que este agregado el modulo radeon en el blacklist. Al parecer no manda error pero se queda la pantalla en negro y no inicia el grafico. Aqui esta el pastebin del log de Xorg. http://pastebin.com/p2zbRftP Espero me puedas orientar. El registro que mandas no muestra ningún error en el servidor gráfico (salvo el de la aceleración 3D aiglx pero luego parece que lo carga bien). He encontrado este bug, con los mismos síntomas que los tuyos (error con aiglx y pantalla en negro), echa un vistazo aunque no parece que esté solucionado: fglrx-driver: Black screen after xorg startup https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=765109 Si el driver cerrado no funciona puedes intentar cargar mientras tanto el radeon, digo, para poder ver algo al menos. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.12.14.16.19...@gmail.com
pin off bluetooth
Hola lista,
Recurro a ustedes como ultimo recurso.
Tengo varios pc con Linux debian 3.2.0-4-686-pae, en ellos conecto un adaptador
bluetooth y con el paquete bluez-utils y ussp-push puedo enviar archivos al
movil y viceversa, mediante consola sin problemas, y sin PIN, en el móvil
solamente me aparece desea aceptar transferencia de none, tras esto la
transferencia se efectúa sin intercambios de pin, probado con varios pc y
varios moviles.
Para mandar desde el movil al pc, uso obexpushd -o /tmp y pulso en movil
transferir por bluetooth a none y no me pide ni confirmacion de transferencia,
ni pin, ni nada, el archivo simplemente aparece en tmp.
Ahora pruebo con raspbian con bluez-utils y no ocurre igual, siempre me pide un
pin para transferencias, que no es 1234,12345,,... y el comando obexpushd
-o /tmp/ tampoco recibe ficheros,imagino por lo mismo.
Supongo que por la via de bluetooth-agent, podria crear un pin y emparejarlos,
pero no quiero eso,quiero que no pida pin.
Me da a mi que el problema viene porque raspbian no tiene usuario root y el
tema de politicas y grupos no lo controlo mucho.
No sirvio machacar los binarios bluetooth-agent,bluetooth,hci,ussp-push, de
raspbian(arm) con los del pc-debian(686), melon que soy.
He creado un fichero /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf:pero seguia pidiendo pin.
# HCI daemon configuration file.
#
# HCId options
options {
# Automatically initialize new devices
autoinit yes;
# Security Manager mode
# none - Security manager disabled
# auto - Use local PIN for incoming connections
# user - Always ask user for a PIN
#
security none;
# Pairing mode
# none - Pairing disabled
# multi - Allow pairing with already paired devices
# once - Pair once and deny successive attempts
pairing none;
# Default PIN code for incoming connections
# passkey 1234;
}
# Default settings for HCI devices
device {
# Local device name
# %d - device id
# %h - host name
name %h-%d;
# Local device class
class 0x000100;
# Default packet type
pkt_type DH1,DM1,HV1;
# Inquiry and Page scan
iscan enable; pscan enable;
# Default link mode
# none - no specific policy
# accept - always accept incoming connections
# master - become master on incoming connections,
#deny role switch on outgoing connections
lm accept;
# Default link policy
# none- no specific policy
# rswitch - allow role switch
# hold- allow hold mode
# sniff - allow sniff mode
# park- allow park mode
lp rswitch,hold,sniff,park;
}
cambiar clave de usuarios por web
Buenas tardes lista, necesito alguna opción para que mis usuarios tengan la alternativa de cambiar sus claves de correos (alojadas en mysql) a partir de la verificación de la anteriorigual me sirve, un formulario donde los diferentes los admins de los dominios puedan hacer cambios en las claves solo de sus usuarios, tengo un servidor postfix+dovecot usando como base mysql con múltiples dominios, yo genero los buzones al no ser de los dos o tres dominios que les hago el relay domain. Algo como MAT es lo que busco pero no tan global (phpmyadmin descartado), estaba pensando crear usuarios con privilegios en la db mailserver que permitan manipular solo los dominios y declararlo en la config del MAT pero ya no paso de solo la teoría y san google no me da luz en el asunto. El problema es que manejo unos cuantos buzones de correo a partir de múltiples dominios, y necesito delegar el cambio de contraseñas a cada informático que poseen las cuentas en mi server sin que tengan que acceder por el phpmyadmin, considero una tarea trivial que puedo delegar con las respectivas medidas de seguridad y control. Alguna idea???...hasta ahora, MAT hace demasiado bien la tarea, tan así que hace el reset del password de todos los susuarios y desearía personalizar un poco más la cosa. Saludos!...espero esté en texto sin formato como lo configuré, si no, pobre de mí. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cahcyikcgkjpkrazdwf9mkzskkpf0sxjjumncaeo_nqusem2...@mail.gmail.com
Re: cambiar clave de usuarios por web
El domingo, 14 dic 2014, a las 18:58 horas (UTC+1), Aaron Cygnus escribió: Buenas tardes lista, necesito alguna opción para que mis usuarios tengan la alternativa de cambiar sus claves de correos (alojadas en mysql) a partir de la verificación de la anteriorigual me sirve, un formulario donde los diferentes los admins de los dominios puedan hacer cambios en las claves solo de sus usuarios, tengo un servidor postfix+dovecot usando como base mysql con múltiples dominios, yo genero los buzones al no ser de los dos o tres dominios que les hago el relay domain. Algo como MAT es lo que busco pero no tan global (phpmyadmin descartado), estaba pensando crear usuarios con privilegios en la db mailserver que permitan manipular solo los dominios y declararlo en la config del MAT pero ya no paso de solo la teoría y san google no me da luz en el asunto. El problema es que manejo unos cuantos buzones de correo a partir de múltiples dominios, y necesito delegar el cambio de contraseñas a cada informático que poseen las cuentas en mi server sin que tengan que acceder por el phpmyadmin, considero una tarea trivial que puedo delegar con las respectivas medidas de seguridad y control. Alguna idea???...hasta ahora, MAT hace demasiado bien la tarea, tan así que hace el reset del password de todos los susuarios y desearía personalizar un poco más la cosa. Saludos!...espero esté en texto sin formato como lo configuré, si no, pobre de mí. Puedes echarle un vistazo a postfixadmin. Permite que cada usuario gestione su contraseña (entre otras funciones) y admite mysql como base de datos. Está en el repositorio de Debian. Saludos. -- Manolo Díaz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141214190948.2662e...@gmail.com
[OT] Re: pin off bluetooth
El Sun, 14 Dec 2014 17:24:34 +, franiortiz hotmail escribió: Hola lista, Ese html... Recurro a ustedes como ultimo recurso. (...) Mejor que preguntes en la lista/foros dedicada a Raspbian. Ahora pruebo con raspbian con bluez-utils y no ocurre igual, siempre me pide un pin para transferencias, que no es 1234,12345,,... y el comando obexpushd -o /tmp/ tampoco recibe ficheros,imagino por lo mismo. Supongo que por la via de bluetooth-agent, podria crear un pin y emparejarlos, pero no quiero eso,quiero que no pida pin. Me da a mi que el problema viene porque raspbian no tiene usuario root y el tema de politicas y grupos no lo controlo mucho. (...) Te comento dos cosas que me mosquean. 1/ Me extraña que no haya usuario root, bien real (su -) o bien sudoizado (sudo), pero debe de haber alguien quien controle la casa :-) 2/ Según tengo entendido todos los chismes BT piden contraseña para emparejarse (por seguridad), cosa aparte es que ya la hayas introducido una vez y no te la vuelva a pedir. Yo probaría a pasarle la contraseña (en los móviles se suele elegir al vuelo pero deberías comprobarlo leyendo el manual del móvil) a ver si ya no la vuelve a pedir. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.12.14.18.10...@gmail.com
Calculos de hardware para servidor con smpt (postfix+MySQL) y servidor SAMBA
*Hola comunidad:* Soy estudiante de redes de datos y telecomunicaciones, en uno de los desarrollos, tengo que hacer la documentación del mismo. *Problema 1: (resuelto)* *1.a)* La empresa o fábrica cuenta con 1000 usuarios de los cuales un 25% están conectados al mismo tiempo (La mayor parte de los correos son internos). *1.b)* Utilizar sistema operativo GNU/Linux: El cual elegí Debian. *1.c)* Un servidor de correo: utilizo postfix con MySQL para la base de datos de postfix. *1.d)* Un servidor de archivos: samba (porque los clientes son Windows) Todo esto lo tengo implementado mediante VirtualBox y funcionando. *Problema 2: Justificar* *2.a) *Tengo que hacer el calculo necesario de hardware(*) para cada uno de los servidores tanto como el de correo (más MySQL) y el de archivos (SAMBA) por separados, ya que luego se ocupará un servidor el cual virtualizara ambos servidores (correo y archivos). (*) Calculo de memoria RAM y de procesador por usuarios. *2.b)* Citar la fuente de donde extraje la información sobre el calculo del hardware. En este caso, sito la lista de correo. Desde ya muchas gracias por el tiempo prestado. *PD: por si no está claro lo que necesito es resolver es el problema 2.* -- Leonardo A. D´Ulivo
Re: cambiar clave de usuarios por web
El Sun, 14 Dec 2014 12:58:00 -0500, Aaron Cygnus escribió: Buenas tardes lista, necesito alguna opción para que mis usuarios tengan la alternativa de cambiar sus claves de correos (alojadas en mysql) a partir de la verificación de la anteriorigual me sirve, un formulario donde los diferentes los admins de los dominios puedan hacer cambios en las claves solo de sus usuarios, tengo un servidor postfix+dovecot usando como base mysql con múltiples dominios, yo genero los buzones al no ser de los dos o tres dominios que les hago el relay domain. (...) ¿Has pensando en añadir un webmail (Roundcube, Squirrel, Horde...)? La mayoría permiten este tipo de cosas (además de añadir las funcionalidades inherentes al servicio) a través de plugins. Saludos!...espero esté en texto sin formato como lo configuré, si no, pobre de mí. Salió bien :-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.12.14.18.15...@gmail.com
Re: cambiar clave de usuarios por web
a Manolo: postfixadmin, a lo que entendí, implementa una nueva db de cero con nuevos dominios,usuarios, etc...no me es factible en estos momentos, si usara la db que tengo actualmente en estos momento con todo seria perfecto...de todas formas gracias por la sugerencia, otra cosa, la instalación desde los repos debian no poblan la b/daptitude purge remove, dpkg-reconfigure postfixadmin una y otra vez y nada Creating config file /etc/dbconfig-common/postfixadmin.conf with new version Creating config file /etc/postfixadmin/dbconfig.inc.php with new version granting access to database postfixadmin for postfixadmin@localhost: success. verifying access for postfixadmin@localhost: success. creating database postfixadmin: success. verifying database postfixadmin exists: success. dbconfig-common: flushing administrative password genera la bd postfixadmin pero vacía...no encuentro el tar.gz o el sql en los ficheros de instalación para hacerlo manual...el error después del logeo es: DEBUG INFORMATION: Invalid query: Table 'postfixadmin.domain' doesn't exist Check your error_log for the failed query. Please check the documentation and website for more information. Ya descargué el .deb de sourceforge y me hace lo mismo --- a Camaleón: pensé en roundcube, tiene un plugin que lo hace, pero tengo implementado para bien o para mal afterlogic, un cambio de webmail me acarrearía un sinfín de quejas por parte de los usuarios y un tirón al seguro de orejas del jefe ;) Creo que me estoy quedando sin opcionessi al menos pudiera hacer un usuario desde mysql que gestionara y modificara solo solo la tabla de las claves en dependencia del id del dominio, podría usar, al menos, MAT, para lo que deseo. Gracias por las sugerencias! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cahcyike8gmdhfdfdgxvqt8ikovi9ecd3buinmwvm+rdcmtt...@mail.gmail.com
Re: cambiar clave de usuarios por web
El Sun, 14 Dec 2014 13:40:46 -0500, Aaron Cygnus escribió: (...) a Camaleón: pensé en roundcube, tiene un plugin que lo hace, pero tengo implementado para bien o para mal afterlogic, un cambio de webmail me acarrearía un sinfín de quejas por parte de los usuarios y un tirón al seguro de orejas del jefe ;) ¿Te refieres a esto? Pues mejor lo pones O:-) http://www.afterlogic.com/wiki/Plugins_Repository_%28WebMail%29?WM=MS#Password_change Creo que me estoy quedando sin opcionessi al menos pudiera hacer un usuario desde mysql que gestionara y modificara solo solo la tabla de las claves en dependencia del id del dominio, podría usar, al menos, MAT, para lo que deseo. Hombre, siempre podrás crear un usuario con permisos de escritura en la tabla mysql que contiene las contraseñas de los usuarios y podrás cambiar el valor manualmente a través de CLI pero me parece una solución muy rústica que además no te solicita validar la clave actual, la cambia y punto. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.12.14.18.58...@gmail.com
RE: [OT] Re: pin off bluetooth
Gracias por responder, Siento el html, hotmail me dice que es texto enriquecido,voy a probar sin formato, a ver que tal. 1/ Correcto hay un sudo, pero no existe usuario root, no se si eso influye pues yo lanzo los comandos ussp y demas como simple usuario, en el debian-686 y funcionan sin pin, ni emparejamiento. 2/ Eso tenia entendido yo tambien y mayor fue mi sorpresa cuando debian-686 en mi pc me dejaba enviar y recibir sin pin ni emparejamientos y no solo a mi movil el cual nunca empareje, por si aca he probado con moviles desconocidos y no pide emparejamiento ninguno, pero al intentar replicarlo en debian-arm (raspbian), me ha dado la sorpresa de que pide pin, lo peor es que me he empeñado en comprender este comportamiento, que ya lleva tiempo en mi cabeza. 3/ Yo probaría ... Ese es el tema, probablemente con bluetooth-agent conseguiria un pin y emparejarlos pero ya no quiero eso, quiero comprender como hace mi debian686 para no pedirlo, funcionar sin necesitarlo y replicar ese comportamiento en la raspibian. Saludos
Re: cambiar clave de usuarios por web
http://www.afterlogic.com/wiki/Password_change_for_ISPConfig_%28WebMail_Plugins%29?WM=MS pues sip..con este plugin voy resolviendo..gracias!!! El día 14 de diciembre de 2014, 13:58, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sun, 14 Dec 2014 13:40:46 -0500, Aaron Cygnus escribió: (...) a Camaleón: pensé en roundcube, tiene un plugin que lo hace, pero tengo implementado para bien o para mal afterlogic, un cambio de webmail me acarrearía un sinfín de quejas por parte de los usuarios y un tirón al seguro de orejas del jefe ;) ¿Te refieres a esto? Pues mejor lo pones O:-) http://www.afterlogic.com/wiki/Plugins_Repository_%28WebMail%29?WM=MS#Password_change Creo que me estoy quedando sin opcionessi al menos pudiera hacer un usuario desde mysql que gestionara y modificara solo solo la tabla de las claves en dependencia del id del dominio, podría usar, al menos, MAT, para lo que deseo. Hombre, siempre podrás crear un usuario con permisos de escritura en la tabla mysql que contiene las contraseñas de los usuarios y podrás cambiar el valor manualmente a través de CLI pero me parece una solución muy rústica que además no te solicita validar la clave actual, la cambia y punto. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.12.14.18.58...@gmail.com -- Good!something call Gnu/Linux exists! ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAHCyikeGLan9RF-AkmCofW=ygnc51ac1xzuh4-y8slwq7o7...@mail.gmail.com
cgroup y lxc
Un saludo a la lista.
He estado este fin de semana curioseando lxc sobre jessie; y he llegado
al problema de los contenedores de usuario (los unprivileged
containers, vamos).
Después de dar vueltas y vueltas por internet acabé por pergeñar una
solución, pero no me acaba de funcionar, no sé muy bien por qué. La idea
es usar /etc/cgconfig.conf y /etc/cgrules.conf, de manera que al
arrancar se cree un cgroup de usuario llamado lxc en el que pueden
escribir los usuarios que pertenecen al grupo lxc.
Para ello he creado este /etc/cgconfig.conf:
#v+
group lxc {
perm {
admin {
uid = root;
gid = lxc;
dperm = 775;
fperm = 664;
}
task {
uid = root;
gid = lxc;
fperm = 664;
}
}
memory {
memory.limit_in_bytes = 512m;
}
cpu {}
blkio {}
freezer {}
cpuacct {}
cpuset {
cgroup.clone_children = 1;
cpuset.cpus = 0;
cpuset.mems = 0;
}
devices {}
net_cls {}
net_prio {}
perf_event {}
}
#v-
Y en /etc/cgrules.conf he puesto esto:
#v+
@lxc:lxc-start* lxc/%u
@lxc:sleep* lxc/%u
#v-
La segunda línea sólo está a efectos de prueba y, en realidad, sobraría.
O sea, cuando un usuario del grupo lxc arranca lxc-start el proceso va
al cgroup lxc/nombre_de_usuario. Este cgroup lo creo cuando el usuario
arranca una sesión de bash (he creado un
/etc/profile.d/create_user_lxc.sh para ello).
En teoría debería funcionar y dejarme crear sin problema los
contenedores ya que estos se crearían dentro de lxc/nombre_de_usuario en
donde no hay problemas de permisos. Pero sucede una cosa muy curiosa con
lxc-start.
Si uso sleep, la cosa va bien:
#v+
$ sleep 30
[1] 1124
$ cat /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/lxc/perico/tasks
1124
$ sleep 20
[2] 1126
$ cat /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/lxc/perico/tasks
1124
1126
$ sleep 10
[3] 1128
$ cat /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/lxc/poerico/tasks
1124
1126
1128
#v-
O sea todos los procesos sleep van a lxc/perico. Sin embargo, con
lxc-start ocurre que la primera vez funciona como espero:
#v+
$ lxc-start -n wheezy -d
$ cat /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/lxc/perico/tasks
1139
$ ps -C lxc-start
PID TTY TIME CMD
1139 ?00:00:00 lxc-start
#v-
Pero a partir de ese momento, deja de funcionarme eso de que todos los
procesos sleep y lxc-start vayan al cgroup lxc/perico:
#v+
$ sleep 20
[3] 2400
pantuflo@zipi:~$ cat /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/lxc/pantuflo/tasks
1139
$ grep 2400 /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/tasks
2400
#v-
O sea, el sleep va al cgroup raiz. Este y todos los que lance a partir
de ahora. Un lxc-start falla y si miro por qué, me dice que porque no
puede crear el cgroup para el contenedor. Imagino que le pasará lo mismo
que a sleep: que el proceso va al cgroup raiz y ahí el usuario no puedo
crear ningún cgroup hijo.
Si la regla en cgrules.conf hago que sea:
@lxc* lxc/%u
La cosa funciona, pero yo lo único que quiero en cgroup aparte son las
máquinas lxc, no el resto de procesos que pueda crear el usuario.
¿A alguien alcanza a saber qué pasa?
Muchas gracias.
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Re: OT Repositorio de documentos.
Hola de nuevo: Muchas gracias por sus sugerencias. Suena interesante lo de ZFS, no lo he usado aun, ¿podrías explicar como es que lo usas Gonzalo, ese equipo (servidor) que uso le dan? Por lo que comentas del SO pareciera que administras un NAS con eso. Respecto a la sugerencia de la liga está interesante, no se ven mal pero son soluciones muy robustas que hacen un montón de cosas más allá de lo que necesito para empresas y hay que pagar. No los descarto pero en esta etapa no sé si convenga usar algo así. Nuxeo es de paga y la anualidad es algo alta para ir comenzando, Alfresco tiene una version Community que es gratuita pero no se puede descargar. Seguiré buscando opciones, gracias de nuevo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caacnk7zwx-ezkfuj+gtmxuxqbtj6ubjkyvhv6njf5y9m-42...@mail.gmail.com
Tint2 kräver omstart ofta
Hej alla! Jag har ett lite irriterande problem, jag inte begriper, inte heller kunnat hitta någon lösning på. Tacksam om någon kan komma på något. Jag måste starta om tin2 med jämna mellanrum. Det verkar som att behovet av omstart är större ju mer jag jobbar vid datorn. Jag har två skärmar. Systemtalriken är på den vänstra skärmen. Efterhand ökar storleken för systray och virt skärm ett o två blir alltmindre. Til slut blir det omöjligt välja ikon och jag får starta om. Mer än två dagar går det inte, ibland får jag starta om en-två gånger per dag. Har Openbox som fönsterhanterare. Jag har diseablat compositing, upplever annars bilden som suddig. Dist:#! 11 / Debian 7.7 Kernel 3.2.0-4-amd64 CPUAMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 Processor Video: ATI RS880 [Radeon HD 4250] # |egrep -i connected|card detect|primary dev /var/log/Xorg.0.log| [ 85895.815] (II) fglrx(0): PCIE card detected [ 85897.260] (II) fglrx(0): Connected Display0: DFP1 [ 85897.261] (II) fglrx(0): Connected Display1: CRT1 [ 85897.350] (II) fglrx(0): Output DFP1 connected [ 85897.350] (II) fglrx(0): Output CRT1 connected [ 85897.350] (II) fglrx(0): Adapter ATI Radeon HD 4250 has 2 configurable heads and 2 displays connected. Display0 till vänster Flatron W2241s Display1 till höger Philips Briliance 200P Om jag har systray = 0 eller systray = 1, kvittar. Fungerar lika bra lelr dåligt... TINT2 == # Background definitions # ID 1 rounded = 0 border_width = 0 background_color = #00 40 border_color = #828282 0 # ID 2 - task active rounded = 1 border_width = 0 background_color = #d8d8d8 30 border_color = #d8d8d8 30 # ID 3 - task rounded = 1 border_width = 0 background_color = #00 0 border_color = #00 0 # ID 4 rounded = 1 border_width = 1 background_color = #88 20 border_color = #ED2323 60 # ID 5 - taskbar rounded = 0 border_width = 1 background_color = #00 0 border_color = #00 0 # ID 6 - active taskbar rounded = 0 border_width = 1 background_color = #d8d8d8 8 border_color = #d8d8d8 0 # ID 7 - tooltip rounded = 3 border_width = 0 background_color = #22 90 border_color = #22 90 # ID 8 rounded = 1 border_width = 1 background_color = #88 20 border_color = #88 20 # Panel panel_monitor = all panel_position = top center horizontal panel_items = TSC panel_size = 100% 30 panel_margin = 0 -1 panel_padding = 0 0 panel_dock = 0 wm_menu = 1 panel_layer = top panel_background_id = 1 # Panel Autohide autohide = 0 autohide_show_timeout = 0.3 autohide_hide_timeout = 1.5 autohide_height = 6 strut_policy = follow_size # Taskbar taskbar_mode = multi_desktop taskbar_padding = 6 0 6 taskbar_background_id = 5 taskbar_active_background_id = 6 taskbar_name = 1 taskbar_name_background_id = 0 taskbar_name_active_background_id = 0 taskbar_name_font = Liberation Sans 9 taskbar_name_font_color = #828282 100 taskbar_name_active_font_color = #828282 100 # Tasks urgent_nb_of_blink = 20 task_icon = 1 task_text = 0 task_centered = 1 task_maximum_size = 40 40 task_padding = 2 2 task_background_id = 3 task_active_background_id = 2 task_urgent_background_id = 4 task_iconified_background_id = 3 # Task Icons task_icon_asb = 80 0 0 task_active_icon_asb = 100 0 0 task_urgent_icon_asb = 100 0 0 task_iconified_icon_asb = 80 0 0 # Fonts task_font = Liberation Sans 06_55 6 task_font_color = #828282 60 task_active_font_color = #828282 100 task_urgent_font_color = #FF 100 task_iconified_font_color = #d8d8d8 60 font_shadow = 0 # Launcher launcher_padding = 8 4 4 launcher_background_id = 0 launcher_icon_size = 24 # Specify icon theme names with launcher_icon_theme. # if you have an XSETTINGS manager running (like xfsettingsd), tint2 will follow your current theme. launcher_icon_theme = gnome-colors-statler # Each launcher_item_app must be a full path to a .desktop file launcher_item_app = /usr/share/applications/terminator.desktop launcher_item_app = /usr/share/applications/xfce4-file-manager.desktop launcher_item_app = /usr/share/applications/gedit.desktop launcher_item_app = /usr/share/applications/iceweasel.desktop # System Tray systray = 0 # systray = 1 systray_padding = 4 2 3 systray_sort = right2left systray_background_id = 0 systray_icon_size = 0 systray_icon_asb = 100 0 0 # Clock time1_format = %H:%M time1_font = Liberation Sans 11 clock_font_color = #b5b5b5 100 clock_padding = 12 4 clock_background_id = 0 clock_lclick_command = gsimplecal clock_rclick_command = gsimplecal # Tooltips tooltip = 1 tooltip_padding = 2 2 tooltip_show_timeout = 0.0 tooltip_hide_timeout = 0.0 tooltip_background_id = 7 tooltip_font_color = #d8d8d8 100 tooltip_font = Liberation Sans normal 9.0 # Mouse mouse_middle = none mouse_right = toggle mouse_scroll_up = toggle mouse_scroll_down = iconify # Battery battery = 1 battery_low_status = 20 battery_low_cmd = notify-send battery low battery_hide = 96 bat1_font = Liberation Mono 8 bat2_font = Liberation Mono 8 battery_font_color = #b5b5b5 100 battery_padding = 2 0
Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?
El Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 09:45:33PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU escribió: On Vi, 12 dec 14, 20:07:26, Patrick Bartek wrote: I don't know how effective this check is though. But I've NEVER had a dirty partition reported in the past 8 years or so. The nice thing is it is a very fast check. My 16GB / checked in less than 5 seconds, and the 205GB /home in about 10 seconds or so. (I didn't actually time this. Subjective estimates.) However, it seemed TOO quick. Never thought about that until today when I actually sat there and watched the whole shutdown-reboot sequence. Usually I don't. If you want *really* fast fsck on boot switch to xfs ;) Totally agree Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141214075318.GA2882@hopelux
Re: xfs and other filesystems (was Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?)
On Sb, 13 dec 14, 18:38:36, The Wanderer wrote: Serious question - I know it has its advantages for particular scenarios, but I don't know how it stacks up in general-purpose use, and I've never run across an accounting of its disadvantages in a context which struck me as reliable. As far as I understand, xfs is an excelent filesystem and should probably be considered whenever filesystem performance can significantly impact your application. I'm preferring ext4 simply because it's more likely to be supported out of the box in most scenarios and to keep my installations as simple as possible as it's unlikely I would feel any real difference by switching to another filesystem. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Headset with Wheezy
I am proposing to buy a headset for recording with Audacity and Wheezy. The earphones will presumably be fine provided that sound is working, but I am a bit worried about the mikes. These two Sennheiser headsets look promising, but I would value comments: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0077L2WCY/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8colid=2EPMKT7CE5075coliid=I739L1ADGA0VF http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B005HWEYN0/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8colid=2EPMKT7CE5075coliid=I1O4MWOTMYWAIM In particular, does anyone know whether the mikes work OK in Linux? (Audacity, on Wheezy with Trinity DE.) Thanks, Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201412141051.07400.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: xfs and other filesystems (was Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?)
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 13 dec 14, 18:38:36, The Wanderer wrote: Serious question - I know it has its advantages for particular scenarios, but I don't know how it stacks up in general-purpose use, and I've never run across an accounting of its disadvantages in a context which struck me as reliable. As far as I understand, xfs is an excelent filesystem and should probably be considered whenever filesystem performance can significantly impact your application. XFS is slower than ext4 on certain metadata-heavy workloads, and faster in multiple-stream workloads. It also scales better than ext4 on very big filesystems. It is, however, more memory-hungry. I use it extensively wherever I don't expect more than one crash an year. Otherwise, I go with ext4 (better fsck). I'm preferring ext4 simply because it's more likely to be supported out of the box in most scenarios and to keep my installations as simple as possible as it's unlikely I would feel any real difference by switching to another filesystem. Agreed. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141214124727.ga1...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Is Debian live 7.7 will run on athlon 5350?
I am asking this because I was unable to boot the previous version a couple month ago. Thanks
Re: Is Debian live 7.7 will run on athlon 5350?
On Sunday 14 December 2014 12:12:16 German wrote: I am asking this because I was unable to boot the previous version a couple month ago. Thanks If it's live, suck it and see. (Just run it and see whether it runs.) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201412141317.44836.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Is Debian live 7.7 will run on athlon 5350?
The reason I ask is that I don't have access to a computer right now ( after an update my lubuntu can't boot, I am in recovery mode right now) and going and asking my neighbour to use his is the last resort. So I thought some one already could be able to boot 7.7 live on athlon 5350 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 14 December 2014 12:12:16 German wrote: I am asking this because I was unable to boot the previous version a couple month ago. Thanks If it's live, suck it and see. (Just run it and see whether it runs.) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201412141317.44836.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Is Debian live 7.7 will run on athlon 5350?
On Sunday 14 December 2014 12:26:14 German wrote: The reason I ask is that I don't have access to a computer right now ( after an update my lubuntu can't boot, I am in recovery mode right now) and going and asking my neighbour to use his is the last resort. So I thought some one already could be able to boot 7.7 live on athlon 5350 Oh. I see. I take it that you haven't got Knoppix. That will boot on anything. ;-) Lisi Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 14 December 2014 12:12:16 German wrote: I am asking this because I was unable to boot the previous version a couple month ago. Thanks If it's live, suck it and see. (Just run it and see whether it runs.) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201412141317.44836.lisi.re...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201412141337.53061.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Is Debian live 7.7 will run on athlon 5350?
I would boot knoppix, but I need debian Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 14 December 2014 12:26:14 German wrote: The reason I ask is that I don't have access to a computer right now ( after an update my lubuntu can't boot, I am in recovery mode right now) and going and asking my neighbour to use his is the last resort. So I thought some one already could be able to boot 7.7 live on athlon 5350 Oh. I see. I take it that you haven't got Knoppix. That will boot on anything. ;-) Lisi Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 14 December 2014 12:12:16 German wrote: I am asking this because I was unable to boot the previous version a couple month ago. Thanks If it's live, suck it and see. (Just run it and see whether it runs.) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201412141317.44836.lisi.re...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201412141337.53061.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Is Debian live 7.7 will run on athlon 5350?
On 2014-12-14, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote: The reason I ask is that I don't have access to a computer right now ( after an update my lubuntu can't boot, I am in recovery mode right now) and going and asking my neighbour to use his is the last resort. So I thought some one already could be able to boot 7.7 live on athlon 5350 I have no personal experience to recount; this man here http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=amd_athlon5350_ubuntunum=2 suggests that the Athlon 5350 works fine with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and the 3.13 kernel. Maybe that's sacrilege to say in these parts (mentioning Ubuntu and all). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnm8r5mu.29p.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: Is Debian live 7.7 will run on athlon 5350?
Sure, it works, Curt. I was able to run lubuntu 14.04 LTS for couple of months until it crashed on me a day before yesterday. But it was installed only because the previous version of Debian couldn't boot Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2014-12-14, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote: The reason I ask is that I don't have access to a computer right now ( after an update my lubuntu can't boot, I am in recovery mode right now) and going and asking my neighbour to use his is the last resort. So I thought some one already could be able to boot 7.7 live on athlon 5350 I have no personal experience to recount; this man here http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=amd_athlon5350_ubuntunum=2 suggests that the Athlon 5350 works fine with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and the 3.13 kernel. Maybe that's sacrilege to say in these parts (mentioning Ubuntu and all). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnm8r5mu.29p.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?
Le 13.12.2014 05:10, Joel Rees a écrit : 2014/12/13 1:29 : Le 12.12.2014 16:46, Joel Rees a écrit : I did say it was not the dbus you download from freedesktop.org [2] [5], didn't I? ;-/ Indeed. My understanding is that it is not just a port. Re-written from scratch, I think. Stuff that just tries to be a lazy man's sockets largely left out, I think. I would be more interested to take a look at the alternative's code, than than to the original's. The few tools'code I've seen of same tool but implemented by the net/open/freeBSD and versions I could find in linux, had a huge difference in terms of code clarity. I would not say that you were exactly wrong. Portability is not just a matter of getting things to compile, and there are some features of dbus that one would just as soon leave out when re-implementing it. Well, maybe dbus itself is not portable, nor clean (I said maybe. Code cleanness is a matter of opinion, and I only have read 2 source files just now) but if there is another implementation around, then at least what it provides can be provided in other systems, eventually in a cleaner way. Just curious, what's the name of this alternative? I would like to see if it could replace the original, or why not taking a quick look at it's source code. Just to build my own opinion. openbsd's website allows you to browse their source. Their dbus would be in their ports (packages) tree, I think. Try looking at dbus* under here: http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ports/x11/ [3] From what I can see, it's only a bunch of patches. Probably patches built on original sources, so, well, it's the same implementation with few more patches. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/d7b1e9e2c382dde9846593719f8a8...@neutralite.org
System is stuck at boot
While the system mentioned is lubuntu, I am wondering if are there any experts who can look at my dmesg.log file and tell me what is wrong. This would be extremely appreciated. dmesg.log Description: Binary data
USB flash drive mounted for root only
This one has me puzzled. I am running Sid with Xfce on my laptop and just now plugged in a USB flash drive. When the icon displayed on the desktop I right-clicked and selected Open and then was prompted for an application to open the directory. I chose File Manager (Thunar) and received the dialog again. I found the drive mounted for root read and write access only: drwxr-x--- 3 root root 4096 Dec 14 12:35 nate/ yet mount seems to hint that it should be available to me: /dev/sdb1 on /media/nate/B6A0-ED18 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1000,fmask=0022,dmask=0077,codepage=437,iocharset=utf8,shortname=mixed,showexec,utf8,flush,errors=remount-ro,uhelper=udisks2) FTR, 1000 is the UID and GID of my logged in user. There is no stanza in /etc/fstab for /dev/sdb1 so it is mounted per defaults. Is the trouble coming from udisks2? Or, do I need to write some obscure udev rule to be able to read and write to this drive? - Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141214191535.gd23...@n0nb.us
Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?
On 12/12/2014 10:46 PM, Joel Rees wrote: 2014/12/13 3:44 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net: So... in all of this thread, I have yet to see anybody actually talk about 9p or plumber - details, and more importantly, in comparison to D-Bus. People are concerned about impacts to their particular use cases, which I understand I mean, 9p has been in the Linux Kernal for years (as compared to, say, kdbus), and it is actually used in some interesting places (erlang-on-xen, libvirt-to-quemu communications) where both the functionality and performance are rather critical. Does anybody have any direct, technical experience here? It does not seem to be widely used, but the more I look, the more I find examples of people asking the same questions. I have been thinking about installing plan 9 on an old box here, will probably do so. Right now, that box is my wedge for learning how to manage an openbsd box. (Plan 9 has some really interesting stuff, but I wouldn't be able to do some of my necessary work on it.) So, I've been reading the plan 9 website. Near as I can tell, p9 and plumber are less a replacement for the fluff that is dbus than a replacement for the infrastructure dbus is built on. Yes, it's a core infrastructure replacement. My guess is that dbus on p9/plumber would be so obvious and dead simple that we'd go back to dbus on sockets/signals/mmap/so-forth, and say to ourselves, Oh. Why did we bother extnding the desktop manager paste buffer like that? (Of course, I'm already saying that anyway, so YMMV.) That was my impression when I first read about Plan 9. It's dead simple and has an obviousness factor, although my summary may not be accurate: 1) The virtual hierarchical filesystem is used for local and network-wide access of all devices, storage, networks, and hosts. 2) The network is the computer, with security domains enforced by distributed agents (factotum). Per-process namespaces combine with the distributed filesystem to enforce security at all levels. 3) Per-process local and global namespaces are enforced by the security model. (If you can't see the resource, you can't access it.) 4) IPC uses a simple text message protocol (plumber) over 9p, which also provides a simple RPC mechanism. Sockets and APIs are not used, but an enhanced (bidirectional) version of Unix pipes is provided. 5) A reinvention of the GUI showcases all these features. I have not looked closely but I don't see much chance of replacing both D-Bus *and* the GUI in the near term. It's probably just too ambitious. Even ignoring 5) for the moment, that is a lot, just to replace D-Bus. Is the entire Plan 9 model required for D-Bus replacement? If not, which pieces can be used, and should they be full or partial implementations? If you don't implement the whole network is the computer model, do you just open up the debate that runs through this thread, about multi-user/multi-seat Unix? Do you end up with the worst of both worlds? Is it all or nothing, a complete replacement of userspace? In that case, maybe it would better to start with a Debian Plan 9 port (but that seems like a non-starter for various reasons). Due to issues like this, I am nowhere near proposing a real project, but this is still at the idea stage. -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548de4b9.30...@ix.netcom.com
Re: USB flash drive mounted for root only
I seem to have resolved this by removing the /media/nate directory and letting it be recreated when mounting the flash drive again. * On 2014 14 Dec 13:18 -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: I found the drive mounted for root read and write access only: drwxr-x--- 3 root root 4096 Dec 14 12:35 nate/ After removing the above directory I now have: $ ls -l /media/ drwxr-x---+ 3 root root 4096 Dec 14 13:24 nate/ in /media where the permissions now have a trailing '+'. The directory under that looks better as before I could not even do an ls of the /media/nate directory: $ ls -l /media/nate/ drwx-- 31 nate nate 12288 Dec 31 1969 B6A0-ED18/ The output from mount is the same. I can now read and write to the flash drive. It appears the trailing '+' hints at extended attributes/ACL that rsync didn't copy over when I copied the system to this hard drive. - Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141214194413.ge23...@n0nb.us
Re: How is typical home computer used today?
Le 13.12.2014 00:07, Ric Moore a écrit : On 12/12/2014 07:47 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 12.12.2014 11:43, claude juif a écrit : If i had to answer this question the way i understand it i will say : Browsers, Mails and sometimes Games. This is how i understand typical home computer today. Is this typical use, or average use? :p Because I would add, to typical, office suits uses, but I would not add it to average. Plus, now, it can be made trough browsing. That's an example of why people here are saying that the original question is too wide, imprecise. And I would add, useless. Because people adapt their computer environment to their uses, and if I agree that there are patterns, I disagree that there are typical uses. Suppose we leave it as if the machine will run on household power or require 220 volts? I kept a Unisys 5000/90 that required 220V at 80 amps just to boot the thing one of four 250 pound harddrives at a time. I moved from a house to an unused bank building (Yeah, it had a vault and an elevator!) where I had the juice to run it. It was cheaper than renting the house! It was great fun until the electric bill increased by $100 for the month. That would NOT be a home computer, even though I made the place my living industrial home. I highly recommend it for a bachelor. So maybe we could consider a standard for home computer that it runs on 110V with less than X amount of watts? :) Ric No. In France, the electric network provide 220V to everyone. This allows gamers to use their computers, but also the geeks their raspberry pi, and professionals their laptops. At work, we have some real servers. They does not, individually, consume as many kW as a developers's computer and it's 2 screens (well.. I would just love having 3 screens... especially at work.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/0ce6f2cb14e77dff6927ff0d05d81...@neutralite.org
Re: How is typical home computer used today?
Le 13.12.2014 20:55, Joe a écrit : On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 11:53:48 -0500 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Does it not disturb anyone that most of the responses to this question have been about how the question was phrased, even though the intent was obvious. What does it say about folks who post here? That they are computer people. 'How do I do X?' 'You don't want to do X. You *never* want to do X. You need to do Y. And by the way, you spelled X wrong.' Thanks for that laugh :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca8a686df24a92e4fee44267a553e...@neutralite.org
Re: How is typical home computer used today?
berenger.morel writes: In France, the electric network provide 220V to everyone. In the USA as well. The normal wall outlets are 110 but 220 is brought into the house and used for things like stoves. The power utility's transformer has a 220V secondary with a grounded center tap so that you get 220V line to line or 110 from either line to neutral. 110V outlets are distributed equally between the two sides so as to balance the load. The usual service is 200 amps at 220V so you could run your mainframe. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87388hrjxa@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: How is typical home computer used today?
Hi, berenger.morel writes: In France, the electric network provide 220V to everyone. Are you sure? Starting from 2000 or so, the whole of europe has gradually changed to 230v, as a compromise between UK (240v) and the rest of europe (220v). MJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548e05c1.9030...@merit.unu.edu
Re: How is typical home computer used today?
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 22:48:49 +0100 mourik jan heupink - merit heup...@merit.unu.edu wrote: Hi, berenger.morel writes: In France, the electric network provide 220V to everyone. Are you sure? Starting from 2000 or so, the whole of europe has gradually changed to 230v, as a compromise between UK (240v) and the rest of europe (220v). MJ Not changed, redefined. 220V and 240V are both defined as 230V. Both the UK and mainland Europe have a lot of legacy equipment which would not take kindly to a 10V rise or fall. CE marking requires new main-powered equipment to function properly across the whole range. Most electronic gear these days is 90-250V. Japan uses a nominal 100V. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2014121407.18a58...@jresid.jretrading.com
Re: How is typical home computer used today?
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 15:38:41 -0600 John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote: In the USA as well. The normal wall outlets are 110 but 220 is brought into the house and used for things like stoves. The power utility's transformer has a 220V secondary with a grounded center tap so that you get 220V line to line or 110 from either line to neutral. 110V outlets are distributed equally between the two sides so as to balance the load. The usual service is 200 amps at 220V so you could run your mainframe. In Europe we have 220 Volts between phase and neutre, and 380 Volts between two phases (if your house is wired for three-phase current). Cheers, Ron. -- Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies. -- Groucho Marx -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141214194522.5fd10...@ron.cerrocora.org
Re: How is typical home computer used today?
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 22:48:49 +0100 mourik jan heupink - merit heup...@merit.unu.edu wrote: Hi, berenger.morel writes: In France, the electric network provide 220V to everyone. Are you sure? Starting from 2000 or so, the whole of europe has gradually changed to 230v, as a compromise between UK (240v) and the rest of europe (220v). MJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548e05c1.9030...@merit.unu.edu supposed to have 220 +/- 10%, which covers from 200 to 240 and a bit more. Cheers, Ron. -- Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies. -- Groucho Marx -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141214194632.4a3aa...@ron.cerrocora.org
music based applications in debian?
Hi all, by which I mean for composition, midi work perhaps Miltie track recording etc.? I am aware of lilllypond for producing the actually printed music. As this is a Linux program in general I imagine it is a part of Debian somewhere. Command line would preferred. Thanks in advance, Kare -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pine.bsf.4.64.1412141817080.16...@server1.shellworld.net
How Not to Install systemd to Begin With.
After the lively debate here that replacing systemd after it's installed is not the same as not installing it in the first place: Here's the solution, more or less. Although, it seems, one will never be truly free from parts of systemd in Testing-Jessie. http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_the_Netinst_CD I haven't tested this myself. So, no guarantees. B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141214154957.31850...@debian7.boseck208.net
Re: How is typical home computer used today?
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 13.12.2014 20:55, Joe a écrit : On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 11:53:48 -0500 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Does it not disturb anyone that most of the responses to this question have been about how the question was phrased, even though the intent was obvious. What does it say about folks who post here? That they are computer people. 'How do I do X?' 'You don't want to do X. You *never* want to do X. You need to do Y. And by the way, you spelled X wrong.' Thanks for that laugh :) Likewise. :-) -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548e2742.5030...@meetinghouse.net
Re: music based applications in debian?
On Monday, December 15, 2014 5:10:04 AM UTC+5:30, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi all, by which I mean for composition, midi work perhaps Miltie track recording etc.? I am aware of lilllypond for producing the actually printed music. As this is a Linux program in general I imagine it is a part of Debian somewhere. Command line would preferred. Thanks in advance, Kare I use musescore for creating/animating scores. (WYSIWYG) Text (like lilypond) would be easier to enter I guess. Things like musescore have the advantage that non-musicians can easily read it as it plays. rosegarden is for midi -- Ive never quite got it to work. I use audacity for editing sound (wav/mp3) files. The super-sophisticated app is ardour (I guess) There are some good command lines apps that visually impaired persons seem to use. Dunno much. Linux audio list http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user is a friendly place for such questions -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/c28ae98d-1e18-48d0-afaa-748e80099...@googlegroups.com
Re: music based applications in debian?
Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi all, by which I mean for composition, midi work perhaps Miltie track recording etc.? Hi Karen, Midish is a command-line app for MIDI recording. Quite a bit of helper code is available for the serious user. For multitrack recording, it may be worth experimenting with Nama, which uses Ecasound as the audio-processing backend. (Nama can also launch and manage a midish process.) A debian package is available for midish. For Nama, the debian package is outdate. You can either build from source, or wait a day or two until the latest version is available from CPAN. As main author of the latter, I'll be happy to answer any questions. The Linux Audio Users list is a great resource for anyone working with audio under Linux. Cheers, Joel I am aware of lilllypond for producing the actually printed music. As this is a Linux program in general I imagine it is a part of Debian somewhere. Command line would preferred. Thanks in advance, Kare -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pine.bsf.4.64.1412141817080.16...@server1.shellworld.net -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141215031558.GA26562@sprite
Re: music based applications in debian?
Good evening Sir. Joel, I will be writing you privately about this. I am not a build from source kind of girl. still I am very interested in becoming a serious user of both programs. Will also be joining the Linux audio lost. Thanks profoundly! Cheers, Kare On Sun, 14 Dec 2014, Joel Roth wrote: Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi all, by which I mean for composition, midi work perhaps Miltie track recording etc.? Hi Karen, Midish is a command-line app for MIDI recording. Quite a bit of helper code is available for the serious user. For multitrack recording, it may be worth experimenting with Nama, which uses Ecasound as the audio-processing backend. (Nama can also launch and manage a midish process.) A debian package is available for midish. For Nama, the debian package is outdate. You can either build from source, or wait a day or two until the latest version is available from CPAN. As main author of the latter, I'll be happy to answer any questions. The Linux Audio Users list is a great resource for anyone working with audio under Linux. Cheers, Joel I am aware of lilllypond for producing the actually printed music. As this is a Linux program in general I imagine it is a part of Debian somewhere. Command line would preferred. Thanks in advance, Kare -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pine.bsf.4.64.1412141817080.16...@server1.shellworld.net -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141215031558.GA26562@sprite -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pine.bsf.4.64.1412142238130.38...@server1.shellworld.net
Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes: Some mnths ago (not sure how many) the icons (running program indicators) that appear in the bottom (taskbar like ) panel changed from showing icons of the running program such as the emacs icon, xterm icon, vim icon etc. to just showing a generic icon and text, making it hard to identify witch icon is which program quickly. I got good news on this by posting on the lxde.devel group: See this short thread: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.desktop.lxde.devel/5529 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87d27lwnli@reader.local.lan
Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?
2014/12/15 0:28 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org: Le 13.12.2014 05:10, Joel Rees a écrit : 2014/12/13 1:29 : Le 12.12.2014 16:46, Joel Rees a écrit : I did say it was not the dbus you download from freedesktop.org [2] [5], didn't I? ;-/ Indeed. My understanding is that it is not just a port. Re-written from scratch, I think. Stuff that just tries to be a lazy man's sockets largely left out, I think. I would be more interested to take a look at the alternative's code, than than to the original's. The few tools'code I've seen of same tool but implemented by the net/open/freeBSD and versions I could find in linux, had a huge difference in terms of code clarity. I would not say that you were exactly wrong. Portability is not just a matter of getting things to compile, and there are some features of dbus that one would just as soon leave out when re-implementing it. Well, maybe dbus itself is not portable, nor clean (I said maybe. Code cleanness is a matter of opinion, and I only have read 2 source files just now) but if there is another implementation around, then at least what it provides can be provided in other systems, eventually in a cleaner way. Just curious, what's the name of this alternative? I would like to see if it could replace the original, or why not taking a quick look at it's source code. Just to build my own opinion. openbsd's website allows you to browse their source. Their dbus would be in their ports (packages) tree, I think. Try looking at dbus* under here: http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ports/x11/ [3] From what I can see, it's only a bunch of patches. Probably patches built on original sources, so, well, it's the same implementation with few more patches. I don't think I could call it only a bunch of patches. I could comment further after I gain more experience with the way they work, but you'll want to note the comment in the attic attached to several of the files in the tree. -- Joel Rees
Re: music based applications in debian?
On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 06:20:41PM -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi all, by which I mean for composition, midi work perhaps Miltie track recording etc.? [..] Command line would preferred. I use abc notation [1]. It is lean, has everything I need composition wise and it is text based. Relevant Debian packages: abcm2ps - to typeset your music abcmidi - to convert abc files to midi Useful resources: - a page with abc examples [2] - abc-users mailing list [3] - more complex example: a transcription of Beethoven's Symphony No. 7 in abc notation [4] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABC_notation#Example [2] http://abcnotation.com/examples [3] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/abcusers/info [4] http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/abcmusic/sym7mov2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Can't start nm-applet keyring error
I installed wheezy a week ago (with the installer which includes xfce), and nm-applet was working fine. But today it won't start and gives the message: WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /home/tom/.cache/keyring-4LJPFc/pkcs11: No such file or directory ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area (nm-applet:3589): Gdk-WARNING **: nm-applet: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0. Is there a command line procedure to deal with this? Thanks in advance for your help, Tom Arnall -- I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. Will Rogers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAFKYrxo91W2YmRcMwdUAB2eGfBZd6CxG=gvsk2jefjmdci3...@mail.gmail.com
