Re: No puedo acceder a sitio web especifico. Estare bloqueado?

2015-06-14 Thread kazabe
El día 25 de febrero de 2015, 17:42, Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena
egis_e...@yahoo.com.ar escribió:
 Con fecha Miércoles, 25 de Febrero de 2015, 09:26:34 a.m., kazabe escribió:
 Desde hace varios dias he notado que desde mi red no podemos acceder a
 un sitio web especifico gubernamental.

Revivo el tema porque encontre un detalle extraño.  Si desde mi
firewall intento contactar el sitio, no responde.  No ping, no nmap,
no nada; pero si conecto el router del ISP a mi laptop, si puedo
acceder al sitio.  Esto descarta problemas por el isp creo yo.

Pero me queda la duda:  como puede mi servidor tener algun tipo de
bloqueo para que ni el mismo pueda conectarse a ese sitio?  no tengo
ninguna regla en el firewall que pueda tener relacion con tal
situacion y si la tuviera, no seria para el mismo servidor.

saludos y muchas gracias.


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Re: Problem with Canon FS4000US film scanner and VueScan on Wheezy

2015-06-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 14 June 2015 08:54:04 Jean-Francois Bosc wrote:
 I am trying to find some help for using a (rather old) Canon FS4000US film
 scanner with VueScan. Here is my problem : I am running Debian Wheezy (32
 bits), and I have been using the scanner for quite a while under previous
 Debian versions. Now VueScan doesn't detect the scanner any more, it says
 No scanner was found attached to your computer. I suppose the problem
 appeared when I upgraded from Squeeze to Wheezy (I'm not 100% sure since I
 don't use the scanner very often, but what else could it be ?)

Had you thought of trying Xsane?

Lisi


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Re: Resizing partitions on a headless server

2015-06-14 Thread Gary Dale

On 14/06/15 12:40 AM, csanyi...@gmail.com wrote:

Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net writes:


On 13/06/15 03:19 PM, csanyi...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

on my headless Debian GNU/Linux Jessie server I want to resize
partitions. So far I did followings:

root@b2:~# df -T
FilesystemType 1K-blocksUsed Available Use%
Mounted on
/dev/root ext3   9621848 8293064840008  91% /
devtmpfs  devtmpfs127800   0127800   0% /dev
tmpfs tmpfs   127880   4127876   1%
/dev/shm
tmpfs tmpfs   127880   17992109888  15% /run
tmpfs tmpfs 5120   0  5120   0%
/run/lock
tmpfs tmpfs   127880   0127880   0%
/sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/mapper/bubba-storage ext3 470050224 8512368 437660636   2%
/home
tmpfs tmpfs25576   0 25576   0%
/run/user/1001
tmpfs tmpfs25576   0 25576   0% /run/user/0

root@b2:~# umount /dev/mapper/bubba-storage

root@b2:~# resize2fs -p /dev/mapper/bubba-storage 20G
resize2fs 1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014)
Please run 'e2fsck -f /dev/mapper/bubba-storage' first.

root@b2:~# e2fsck -f /dev/mapper/bubba-storage
e2fsck 1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014)
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
Pass 5: Checking group summary information
Bubba_home: 114439/59703296 files (0.4% non-contiguous), \
4001648/119386112 blocks

At this step I think I forgot to run again:
root@b2:~# resize2fs -p /dev/mapper/bubba-storage 20G

root@b2:~# lvresize --size 2.1G /dev/mapper/bubba-storage
Rounding size to boundary between physical extents: 2.10 GiB
  WARNING: Reducing active logical volume to 2.10 GiB
THIS MAY DESTROY YOUR DATA (filesystem etc.)
Do you really want to reduce storage? [y/n]: y
  Size of logical volume bubba/storage changed from 455.42 GiB
(116588 extents) to 2.10 GiB (538 extents).
  Logical volume storage successfully resized

Furthermore, I was wrong when I determined the --size to 2.1G in the
command abowe, because I wanted to write 20.1G instead.

root@b2:~# resize2fs -p /dev/mapper/bubba-storage
resize2fs 1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014)
resize2fs: New size smaller than minimum (2153070)

root@b2:~# mount /dev/mapper/bubba-storage

After these steps I rebooted the server but can't login on it with ssh
but only with serial cable.

Now, when I login on the serial console as non root user, I get
messages:

b2 login: csanyipal
Password:
EXT3-fs error (device dm-0): ext3_get_inode_loc: unable to read inode
block - inode=30752769, block=61505538
Last login: Sat Jun 13 14:06:27 CEST 2015 from 192.168.10.90 on pts/0
Linux b2 3.2.62-1 #1 Mon Aug 25 04:22:40 UTC 2014 ppc

The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free
software;
the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.

Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
permitted by applicable law.
No mail.
EXT3-fs error (device dm-0): ext3_get_inode_loc: unable to read inode
block - inode=30752769, block=61505538
EXT3-fs error (device dm-0): ext3_get_inode_loc: unable to read inode
block - inode=30752769, block=61505538
EXT3-fs error (device dm-0): ext3_get_inode_loc: unable to read inode
block - inode=30752769, block=61505538
No directory, logging in with HOEXT3-fs error (device dm-0):
ext3_get_inode_loc: unable to read inode block - inode=30752769,
block=61505538
ME=/

Now what can I do to correct the partitions?


Boot from something like system rescue CD and try to fix the
damage. With any luck resize2fs didn't do anything. Hopefully you can
put the partitions back the way they were.

My headless powerpc box can't boot from CD because it hasn't CD
device. It only has USB drive. Furthermore, it can't boot with an usual
system rescue image installed on USB stick, because it uses uImage. I
tried systemrescuecd ( http://www.sysresccd.org ), gparted live to boot
with, but without success.

I think I have the possibility to use serial console only. There I can
run parted but don't know how to fix with it the problem I made.


Otherwise, there is always testdisk or your backups.

I just installed testdisk and try followings:
Select a media:

Disk /dev/sda - 500 GB / 465 GiB - WDC WD5000AACS-00G8B1

  Disk /dev/mapper/bubba-storage - 2256 MB / 2152 MiB - WDC \
   WD5000AACS-00G8B1
  Disk /dev/dm-0 - 2256 MB / 2152 MiB - WDC WD5000AACS-00G8B1


[Proceed ]

Please select the partition table type, press Enter when done.

[Humax  ] Humax partition table

Hint: Humax partition table type has been detected.

Disk /dev/sda - 500 GB / 465 GiB - WDC WD5000AACS-00G8B1
  CHS 60801 255 63 - sector size=512


[ Analyse  ]

Disk /dev/sda - 500 GB / 465 GiB - CHS 60801 255 63
Current partition structure:

Re: SMTP/HTTP/Tor Connections Timing Out

2015-06-14 Thread Riley Baird
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 10:41:18 +0200
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:51:14PM +1000, Riley Baird wrote:
  Hi,
  
  Many of my connections are timing out. For example, I can't use SMTP to
  send a message if it's over ~1500 bytes [...]
 
 This sounds suspiciously as if your box were using an MTU[1] which is too
 big for the path (1500 is about the Ethernet MTU. Perhaps along the path
 there is a link with a smaller MTU (typically something encapsulating
 the packets, which needs some room for headers, so the available payload
 per packet schrinks accordingly).
 
 In the Good Old Days, your box would get an ICMP reply from the router
 in-between by this router, telling that the MTU is too big, but these
 days, over-eager firewalls tend to filter out these things.
 
 Try to reduce the MTU of your interface, with something along the lines
 of
 
   sudo ifconfig eth0 mtu 1400
 
 (of course, you'd have to replace eth0 by the real name of your interface.
 Just come back here if you don't know what I'm babbling about :-)
 
 If that works, we can talk about how to make this change more permanent.

This works! I'd recently switched from wicd to /etc/network/interfaces,
and I didn't realise that I needed to set the MTU manually.

I've also found out how to make the change persistent
(adding the line mtu 1400 to /etc/network/interfaces).

Thanks for your help; now I can use the internet normally again!


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Re: wi fi

2015-06-14 Thread Bartosz Fenski
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/

Albo po prostu nie Debian, a Ubuntu:

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop

pozdrawiam
Bartosz Feński

W dniu 6/14/2015 o 10:13 AM, Zbigniew Dachowski pisze:
 Dzień Dobry
 Od kilku lat testuję systemy operacyjne linux. Ucieszyła mnie nowa dystrybuc
 ja Debian 8. Ale ponownie nie ma instalatora sieci wi-fi. Albo nie potrafie 
 tego zrobic. Chyba dlatego linux 
 pozostanie tylko systemem dla wybrańców a nie dla ludzi.
 Proszę o podanie, jesli to mozliwe lub przez uprzejość wskazać
 graficzny program instalacji sieci wi fi na laptopie. Taki,który
 rozpozna sieć domową bez problemu i ręcznego jej dopisywania.
 Bardzo proszę jesli to możliwe o pomoc.
 Z poważaniem Zbigniew Dachowski
 d...@konto.pl
 
 
 
 


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Re: systemd equivalent

2015-06-14 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Bob Bernstein b...@fanatick.org writes:
 My initial question was _meant_ to be, simply: can this (ps ax|grep
 ssh) be done, or approximated to, using sysctl?

No, systemd is not supposed to replace standard system utilities. (Also
sysctl is a completely unrelated tool to configure kernel parameters;
the systemd utility is systemctl.)

However if you configure your ssh tunnel as a service that systemd
manages, then you can query systemd about its state via systemctl or
directly via systemd's DBus interface:

  Is the service running?
systemctl is-active my-tunnel

  What is the services main process' PID?
systemctl -pMainPID show my-tunnel

Note that there is also a per-user instance of systemd to allow regular
users to use systemd to manage their own services if they choose to do
so. Not everything has to be a system service.

Ansgar


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Re: Re: Contactes amb l'ajuntament de Barcelona?

2015-06-14 Thread Orestes Mas
El Dissabte, 13 de juny de 2015, a les 21:21:20, Pedro va escriure:
 Llavors, potser que seguim la discussió a la llista admpub si esteu
 d'acord (em subscric). Sembla lo més apropiat.
 
 https://llistes.softcatala.org/mailman/listinfo/admpub
 
 Vinga animeu-vos. Que si algú ha de incentivar això som nosaltres!
 

Tinc ja uns quants anys i he viscut uns quants intents d'aquests. Les 
resistències són enormes, i no només dels qui prenen decisions, sinó dels 
propis treballadors de l'administració.

Sóc pessimista, no crec que funcioni, però podeu comptar amb mi pel que calgui. 
Em subscric a la llista admpub.

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Re: systemd equivalent

2015-06-14 Thread Brian
On Sun 14 Jun 2015 at 05:14:53 -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote:

 On Sun, 14 Jun 2015, Frederic Marchal wrote:
 
 Why do you think systemd has a way of doing everything other tools
 are designed for?
 
 That's not a thought I have ever harbored or expressed.
 
 My initial question was _meant_ to be, simply: can this (ps ax|grep
 ssh) be done, or approximated to, using sysctl? The first respondent
 seemed to be saying oh yes certainly and here is how to do that. No
 one but me took note that he was, regrettably, wrong.
 
 There is no need for any speculation aimed at getting at what I
 might be thinking about systemd or ps or anything else for that
 matter. If a question arises as to what I am thinking beyond what
 I have typed in an email, just ask me. I don't bite.

I think everyone is trying to point out you have encountered the
age-old Square Peg in a Round Hole conundrum. The Ancient Egyptians
were puzzled by it when building the pyramids and it went on to stump
Euclid. Recent research indicates it is related to the Barking up the
Wrong Tree problem.


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Re: Resizing partitions on a headless server

2015-06-14 Thread csanyipal
csanyi...@gmail.com writes:

 Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net writes:

 On 13/06/15 03:19 PM, csanyi...@gmail.com wrote:

[snipped]
 My headless powerpc box can't boot from CD because it hasn't CD
 device. It only has USB drive. Furthermore, it can't boot with an usual
 system rescue image installed on USB stick, because it uses uImage. I
 tried systemrescuecd ( http://www.sysresccd.org ), gparted live to boot
 with, but without success.

 I think I have the possibility to use serial console only. There I can
 run parted but don't know how to fix with it the problem I made.

 Otherwise, there is always testdisk or your backups.

 I just installed testdisk and try followings:

[snipped]
 Segmentation fault

 So, I can't use testdisk here.

Finally, I solved the problem by doing the followings:
# lvresize --size 455.5G /dev/mapper/bubba-storage
# e2fsck -f /dev/mapper/bubba-storage
# resize2fs -p /dev/mapper/bubba-storage
# reboot

So now I get back my /home partition and can ssh into my server.

Now, I can to use parted to resize my partitions.
What is my goal?

Filesystem Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/root  9.2G  8.0G  815M  91% /
devtmpfs   125M 0  125M   0% /dev
tmpfs  125M  4.0K  125M   1% /dev/shm
tmpfs  125M  5.6M  120M   5% /run
tmpfs  5.0M 0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
tmpfs  125M 0  125M   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/mapper/bubba-storage  449G  8.2G  418G   2% /home
tmpfs   25M 0   25M   0% /run/user/1001

# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 465.8 GiB, 500107862016 bytes, 976773168 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x

Device Boot Start   End   Sectors   Size Id Type
/dev/sda1  63  19551104  19551042   9.3G 83 Linux
/dev/sda219551105 974647484 955096380 455.4G 8e Linux LVM
/dev/sda3   974647485 976768064   2120580 1G 82 Linux swap / Solaris

# lvs
  LV  VGAttr   LSize   Pool Origin Data%  Meta%  Move Log
  Cpy%Sync Convert
storage bubba -wi-ao 455.40g

# pvs
  PV VGFmt  Attr PSize   PFree
/dev/sda2  bubba lvm2 a--  455.42g 20.00m

As one can see, my /dev/root partition is almost full.
I want to increase /dev/root partition to be maximum available size and
decrease /home partition to only 20 GiB.

So can be the /var directory large enough to encompass the web and other
contents. 

What are your advises, what do I do to reach my goal?

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Re: Resizing partitions on a headless server

2015-06-14 Thread Gary Dale

On 14/06/15 08:26 AM, csanyi...@gmail.com wrote:

csanyi...@gmail.com writes:


Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net writes:

On 13/06/15 03:19 PM, csanyi...@gmail.com wrote:

[snipped]

My headless powerpc box can't boot from CD because it hasn't CD
device. It only has USB drive. Furthermore, it can't boot with an usual
system rescue image installed on USB stick, because it uses uImage. I
tried systemrescuecd ( http://www.sysresccd.org ), gparted live to boot
with, but without success.

I think I have the possibility to use serial console only. There I can
run parted but don't know how to fix with it the problem I made.


Otherwise, there is always testdisk or your backups.

I just installed testdisk and try followings:

[snipped]

Segmentation fault

So, I can't use testdisk here.

Finally, I solved the problem by doing the followings:
# lvresize --size 455.5G /dev/mapper/bubba-storage
# e2fsck -f /dev/mapper/bubba-storage
# resize2fs -p /dev/mapper/bubba-storage
# reboot

So now I get back my /home partition and can ssh into my server.

Now, I can to use parted to resize my partitions.
What is my goal?

Filesystem Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/root  9.2G  8.0G  815M  91% /
devtmpfs   125M 0  125M   0% /dev
tmpfs  125M  4.0K  125M   1% /dev/shm
tmpfs  125M  5.6M  120M   5% /run
tmpfs  5.0M 0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
tmpfs  125M 0  125M   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/mapper/bubba-storage  449G  8.2G  418G   2% /home
tmpfs   25M 0   25M   0% /run/user/1001

# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 465.8 GiB, 500107862016 bytes, 976773168 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x

Device Boot Start   End   Sectors   Size Id Type
/dev/sda1  63  19551104  19551042   9.3G 83 Linux
/dev/sda219551105 974647484 955096380 455.4G 8e Linux LVM
/dev/sda3   974647485 976768064   2120580 1G 82 Linux swap / Solaris

# lvs
   LV  VGAttr   LSize   Pool Origin Data%  Meta%  Move Log
   Cpy%Sync Convert
 storage bubba -wi-ao 455.40g

# pvs
   PV VGFmt  Attr PSize   PFree
 /dev/sda2  bubba lvm2 a--  455.42g 20.00m

As one can see, my /dev/root partition is almost full.
I want to increase /dev/root partition to be maximum available size and
decrease /home partition to only 20 GiB.

So can be the /var directory large enough to encompass the web and other
contents.

What are your advises, what do I do to reach my goal?

My advice is to leave well enough alone until such time as you are fully 
comfortable using the tools. Then proceed modifying one partition at a 
time and verifying that it has worked before trying to do anything else.


You've just wasted a lot of time trying to do too much at once. This is 
your data that you are playing with. Some extra umount/adjust/mount 
cycles are a small price to pay for minimizing the risk to your files.



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Re: CUPS set-up for the 0.01%

2015-06-14 Thread Brian
On Sat 13 Jun 2015 at 22:24:21 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:

 On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 23:57:16 +0100
 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
 
  On Sat 13 Jun 2015 at 12:16:29 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
  
   form cupsd.conf
   
   Listen localhost:631
   Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock
  
  Ok.
  
   Listen 192.168.1.0/24
  
  Why? How does that square with
  

  http://localhost:631/help/ref-cupsd-conf.html?TOPIC=ReferencesQUERY=#Listen
   ?
 
 sorry, i'm not sure what you mean.
 
 doesn't 192.168.1.0/24 set it to listen for an incoming connection
 anywhere on the 192.168.1.xxx subnet, which is where my server is
 located.

  Listen
  Examples

  Listen 127.0.0.1:631
  Listen 192.0.2.1:631
  Listen [::1]:631
  Listen *:631

  Description

  The Listen directive specifies a network address and port to listen for
  connections. Multiple Listen directives can be provided to listen on
  multiple addresses.

The server listens *on* one or more interfaces. Each interface has a
single network address. 192.168.1.0/24 isn't a single network address. 

 if i load in the above url using links it seems to automatically put
 itself in the background (?)
 
  What version of Debian are you using and what is the output of
 
 squeeze
 
 lol.  first time i've checked in forever.
 
 i tried to tell you. once it works your golden!!
 
 well hell. i'd hate to upgrade.  i really don't need to, unless for
 some reason cups on squeeze is having some trouble.

No cups trouble of this nature on Squeeze as far as we know.

 however the connection refused problem seems like it should be
 straightforward to resolve.
 
netstat -tulpan | grep 631 ?
 
 udp0  0 0.0.0.0:631 0.0.0.0:*  7383/cupsd

There is nothing listening for tcp connections on port 631 so there is
nothing for a browswer to connect to, On Wheezy:

  tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:631 0.0.0.0:*  LISTEN  -
  tcp6   0  0 :::631  :::*   LISTEN  -
  udp0  0 0.0.0.0:631 0.0.0.0:*  -


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Problem with Canon FS4000US film scanner and VueScan on Wheezy

2015-06-14 Thread Jean-Francois Bosc

Hello,

I am trying to find some help for using a (rather old) Canon FS4000US film
scanner with VueScan. Here is my problem : I am running Debian Wheezy (32 bits),
and I have been using the scanner for quite a while under previous Debian
versions. Now VueScan doesn't detect the scanner any more, it says No scanner
was found attached to your computer. I suppose the problem appeared when I
upgraded from Squeeze to Wheezy (I'm not 100% sure since I don't use the scanner
very often, but what else could it be ?)

VueScan works OK with my HP Photosmart b109a printer/scanner, and the Canon
works OK with the Windows version of VueScan ... I didn't find anything useful
in the group archive (or on the Net). Someone suggested that I should try to
find an open source driver, but I could't find one, and that wouldn't explain
why everything worked on Squeeze.

Below are some logs for dmesg and lsusb after starting, stopping, and restarting
the scanner. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Jean-François Bosc, France


---

tarbes:~ dmesg
[ 0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
...
[ 2137.597920] Did not find alt setting 1 for intf 0, config 1
[ 2349.544456] usb 1-4: USB disconnect, device number 3
[ 3812.472068] usb 2-6: new full-speed USB device number 3 using ohci_hcd
[ 3812.702044] usb 2-6: New USB device found, idVendor=04a9, idProduct=3042
[ 3812.702055] usb 2-6: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[ 3812.702062] usb 2-6: Product: Scanner
[ 3812.702067] usb 2-6: Manufacturer: Canon
[ 4696.234625] usb 2-6: USB disconnect, device number 3
[ 4713.672030] usb 2-6: new full-speed USB device number 4 using ohci_hcd
[ 4713.902039] usb 2-6: New USB device found, idVendor=04a9, idProduct=3042
[ 4713.902047] usb 2-6: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[ 4713.902054] usb 2-6: Product: Scanner
[ 4713.902058] usb 2-6: Manufacturer: Canon
tarbes:~ lsusb
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:c069 Logitech, Inc. M500 Laser Mouse
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 04a9:3042 Canon, Inc. CanoScan FS4000US Film Scanner
tarbes:~

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Re: wi fi

2015-06-14 Thread Rafal Czlonka
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 09:13:15AM BST, Zbigniew Dachowski wrote:

 Dzień Dobry

 Od kilku lat testuję systemy operacyjne linux. Ucieszyła mnie nowa
 dystrybucja Debian 8. Ale ponownie nie ma instalatora sieci wi-fi.

Instalator owszem, obsluguje karty WiFi[0] - byc moze Twoja karta nie
jest wspierana[1] lub wymaga niewolnego firmware[2].

 Albo nie potrafie tego zrobic. Chyba dlatego linux pozostanie tylko
 systemem dla wybrańców a nie dla ludzi.

Raczej to pierwsze :^) - Linux, jak i inne wolne systemy, np.: OpenBSD,
sa dla ludzi ktorzy potrafia czytac dokumentacje[3] ;^)

 Proszę o podanie, jesli to mozliwe lub przez uprzejość wskazać
 graficzny program instalacji sieci wi fi na laptopie. Taki,który
 rozpozna sieć domową bez problemu i ręcznego jej dopisywania.
 Bardzo proszę jesli to możliwe o pomoc.

Ponizsze linki powinny na poczatek wystarczyc.

[0] https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch02s01.html.en#network-cards
[1] https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
[2] https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04.html.en
[3] http://rtfm.killfile.pl/#zanim

Pozdrawiam,

rjc


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Re: systemd equivalent

2015-06-14 Thread Bob Bernstein

On Sun, 14 Jun 2015, Frederic Marchal wrote:

Why do you think systemd has a way of doing 
everything other tools are designed for?


That's not a thought I have ever harbored or 
expressed.


My initial question was _meant_ to be, simply: can 
this (ps ax|grep ssh) be done, or approximated to, 
using sysctl? The first respondent seemed to be saying 
oh yes certainly and here is how to do that. No one 
but me took note that he was, regrettably, wrong.


There is no need for any speculation aimed at getting 
at what I might be thinking about systemd or ps or 
anything else for that matter. If a question arises as 
to what I am thinking beyond what I have typed in an 
email, just ask me. I don't bite.


But when you indicate that you believe you know what 
Brian is thinking, well, all I can imagine is that he 
must be a struggling relative of yours, or something, 
in order to have earned that level of dedicated 
support on your part, although perhaps I do you both a 
disservice with such observations, and if that is the 
case please allow me to make haste to apologize.


Thank you for your reply which was kind and 
well-intentioned. I will pursue my studies of systemd 
with heightened caution and circumspection. These are 
troubled waters indeed, yes?



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Re: No grub screen or boot after upgrade to jessie [FIXED]

2015-06-14 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Robert S a écrit :
 
 (Excuse ignorance) How do you display whether a partition is bootable?  It 
 used to be easy with cfdisk, but I can't find the option in gdisk or the 
 newer fdisk.

Your disk uses the new GPT partition format. You can display whether the
legacy boot flag for a GPT partition is set with gdisk and the i
command. However AFAIK this flag is not used.

Some broken BIOSes require that a partition in the legacy partition
table located in the MBR have the boot flag set to boot a disk. On a GPT
disk, you can change this flag using parted and the disk_set pmbr_boot
command. It should still be possible using the -t dos option to force
fdisk to work on the legacy partition table.

However, upgrading grub-pc is not supposed to have modified this flag,
and if it was not necessary for the BIOS to boot that disk before, it is
not necessary after. Besides, BIOSes generally print an error message
such as no bootable device found instead of just a blank screen.

See also http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/bios.html which contains
valuable information about booting in BIOS mode from a GPT disk.


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Re: Resizing partitions on a headless server

2015-06-14 Thread Pascal Hambourg
csanyi...@gmail.com a écrit :
 Hello,
 
 on my headless Debian GNU/Linux Jessie server I want to resize
 partitions.

Why ? The use of LVM should avoid the need to resize partitions (PVs).

 root@b2:~# e2fsck -f /dev/mapper/bubba-storage
 e2fsck 1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014)
 Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
 Pass 2: Checking directory structure
 Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
 Pass 4: Checking reference counts
 Pass 5: Checking group summary information
 Bubba_home: 114439/59703296 files (0.4% non-contiguous), \
 4001648/119386112 blocks
 
 At this step I think I forgot to run again:
 root@b2:~# resize2fs -p /dev/mapper/bubba-storage 20G
 
 root@b2:~# lvresize --size 2.1G /dev/mapper/bubba-storage
   Rounding size to boundary between physical extents: 2.10 GiB
 WARNING: Reducing active logical volume to 2.10 GiB
   THIS MAY DESTROY YOUR DATA (filesystem etc.)
   Do you really want to reduce storage? [y/n]: y
 Size of logical volume bubba/storage changed from 455.42 GiB
   (116588 extents) to 2.10 GiB (538 extents).
 Logical volume storage successfully resized
 
 Furthermore, I was wrong when I determined the --size to 2.1G in the
 command abowe, because I wanted to write 20.1G instead.

The bad news is that you probably screwed the filesystem. LVM provides
flexibility over plain partitions, but at the cost of complexity and is
less tolerant to such a mistake.

With a plain partition, all you would have to do to fix the mistake is
to extend the reduced partition (not the filesystem) to its original
size. However, with LVM, if you extend a reduced LV to its original
size, nothing guarantees that it will use the same physical blocks as
before. You can try, but it may not restore the filesystem's integrity.
Run fsck to check the damage.

Edit : check in /etc/lvm/backup for a metadata backup of the previous
situation of the VG bubba. Using it to restore the LV is beyond my
knowledge, but if your data is important and you don't have a backup
(sounds like an oxymoron), my advice is don't touch anything until you
find how to restore the LV. Otherwise, just extend the LV and recreate
the filesystem on it.

 Now what can I do to correct the partitions?

There is no partition to correct. The problem is in the LV bubba/storage
and its filesystem.


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Re: Resizing partitions on a headless server

2015-06-14 Thread Pascal Hambourg
csanyi...@gmail.com a écrit :
 
 Finally, I solved the problem by doing the followings:
 # lvresize --size 455.5G /dev/mapper/bubba-storage
 # e2fsck -f /dev/mapper/bubba-storage

Glad you were lucky.

 Now, I can to use parted to resize my partitions.
 What is my goal?
 
 Filesystem Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/root  9.2G  8.0G  815M  91% /
 devtmpfs   125M 0  125M   0% /dev
 tmpfs  125M  4.0K  125M   1% /dev/shm
 tmpfs  125M  5.6M  120M   5% /run
 tmpfs  5.0M 0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
 tmpfs  125M 0  125M   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
 /dev/mapper/bubba-storage  449G  8.2G  418G   2% /home
 tmpfs   25M 0   25M   0% /run/user/1001
 
 # fdisk -l
 
 Device Boot Start   End   Sectors   Size Id Type
 /dev/sda1  63  19551104  19551042   9.3G 83 Linux
 /dev/sda219551105 974647484 955096380 455.4G 8e Linux LVM
 /dev/sda3   974647485 976768064   2120580 1G 82 Linux swap / Solaris
 
 # lvs
   LV  VGAttr   LSize   Pool Origin Data%  Meta%  Move Log
   Cpy%Sync Convert
 storage bubba -wi-ao 455.40g
 
 # pvs
   PV VGFmt  Attr PSize   PFree
 /dev/sda2  bubba lvm2 a--  455.42g 20.00m

I'm curious : what's the use of LVM if you have only one LV taking all
the space in the VG, and plain partitions outside the VG ?

 As one can see, my /dev/root partition is almost full.
 I want to increase /dev/root partition to be maximum available size and
 decrease /home partition to only 20 GiB.
 
 So can be the /var directory large enough to encompass the web and other
 contents. 
 
 What are your advises, what do I do to reach my goal?

Do not resize partitions. This is difficult and risky. Use LVM.
Reduce the filesystem in the LV and the LV to a adequate size (without
mistake this time).
Create a new LV of adequate size. DON'T take all the available space in
the VG. Leave some space for future needs. Increasing a LV and its
filesystem is easy and can be done online while it's mounted. Reducing
is risky, as you experienced.
Move the data in /var from the root filesystem to the new LV and mount
it on /var. Update /etc/fstab accordingly.

Or :

Create a var directory in /home
Move the data in /var to /home/var
Bind-mount /home/var on /var and update /etc/fstab.


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Re: Resizing partitions on a headless server

2015-06-14 Thread Gary Dale

On 14/06/15 09:12 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:

csanyi...@gmail.com a écrit :

Hello,

on my headless Debian GNU/Linux Jessie server I want to resize
partitions.

Why ? The use of LVM should avoid the need to resize partitions (PVs).


root@b2:~# e2fsck -f /dev/mapper/bubba-storage
e2fsck 1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014)
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
Pass 5: Checking group summary information
Bubba_home: 114439/59703296 files (0.4% non-contiguous), \
4001648/119386112 blocks

At this step I think I forgot to run again:
root@b2:~# resize2fs -p /dev/mapper/bubba-storage 20G

root@b2:~# lvresize --size 2.1G /dev/mapper/bubba-storage
   Rounding size to boundary between physical extents: 2.10 GiB
 WARNING: Reducing active logical volume to 2.10 GiB
   THIS MAY DESTROY YOUR DATA (filesystem etc.)
   Do you really want to reduce storage? [y/n]: y
 Size of logical volume bubba/storage changed from 455.42 GiB
   (116588 extents) to 2.10 GiB (538 extents).
 Logical volume storage successfully resized

Furthermore, I was wrong when I determined the --size to 2.1G in the
command abowe, because I wanted to write 20.1G instead.

The bad news is that you probably screwed the filesystem. LVM provides
flexibility over plain partitions, but at the cost of complexity and is
less tolerant to such a mistake.

With a plain partition, all you would have to do to fix the mistake is
to extend the reduced partition (not the filesystem) to its original
size. However, with LVM, if you extend a reduced LV to its original
size, nothing guarantees that it will use the same physical blocks as
before. You can try, but it may not restore the filesystem's integrity.
Run fsck to check the damage.

Edit : check in /etc/lvm/backup for a metadata backup of the previous
situation of the VG bubba. Using it to restore the LV is beyond my
knowledge, but if your data is important and you don't have a backup
(sounds like an oxymoron), my advice is don't touch anything until you
find how to restore the LV. Otherwise, just extend the LV and recreate
the filesystem on it.


Now what can I do to correct the partitions?

There is no partition to correct. The problem is in the LV bubba/storage
and its filesystem.


If you read the original post, it looks like the e2rsize failed. 
Therefor the only problem is the partition table is wrong.



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Linuxträffar Halmstad

2015-06-14 Thread Andreas Ronnquist
Hej!

Finns det något Linuxfolk i Halmstad som är sugna på att träffas för
att snacka Linux över en fika eller matbit?

Om ni är engagerade i Debian så kan ni vara intresserade av
nyckelsignering, jag är DD och kan erbjuda nyckelsignering -
https://wiki.debian.org/Keysigning

Alla är så klart välkomna, oberoende av distribution man kör.

Förslag och idéer välkomnas.

(Det är fritt fram att vidarebefordra detta meddelande till andra media
där intresserade kan tänkas finnas).

Finns det något intresse för detta?


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Re: CUPS set-up for the 0.01%

2015-06-14 Thread Petter Adsen
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 22:24:21 -0700
bri...@aracnet.com wrote:

 On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 23:57:16 +0100
 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
 
  On Sat 13 Jun 2015 at 12:16:29 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
  
   form cupsd.conf
   
   Listen localhost:631
   Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock
  
  Ok.
  
   Listen 192.168.1.0/24
  
  Why? How does that square with
  

  http://localhost:631/help/ref-cupsd-conf.html?TOPIC=ReferencesQUERY=#Listen
   ?
 
 sorry, i'm not sure what you mean.
 
 doesn't 192.168.1.0/24 set it to listen for an incoming connection
 anywhere on the 192.168.1.xxx subnet, which is where my server is
 located.
 
 if i load in the above url using links it seems to automatically put
 itself in the background (?)

It would, there is an ampersand in there. If you want to pass that URL
from the command line, you have to escape it with a backslash - like this:

http://localhost:631/help/ref-cupsd-conf.html?TOPIC=References\QUERY=#Listen

Try that.

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Re: Ejecutar sin entorno grafico una aplicacion en fullscreen

2015-06-14 Thread kazabe
El día 12 de junio de 2015, 12:43, Billy Yeffry Fernández Rodríguez
billy.yef...@gmail.com escribió:
 A ver si me doy a entender. Lo que quiero hacer es lo siguiente: ejecutar
 una aplicacion grafica desde terminal sin tener q subir ni gdm ni tampoco
 gnome.

[...]

 Esto es muy bueno para quienes quieran usar mayormente su sistema desde
 terminal de forma prdeterminada y solo accesar a X solo para quellas
 aplicaciones q lo requieran. Ademas de reducir considerablementr el consumo
 de recursos muy apropiado para maquinas modestas.


Comprendo lo de poder usar pocos recursos, pero existen muchos
manejadores de ventanas que practicamente no consumen nada!  conozco
equipos en produccion en este momento que siendo obsoletos (amd k6-2
500Mhz con alucinantes 64MB en ram) funcionan como punto de venta.
suben un administrador de ventana, adentro ejecutan rdesktop y listo.


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Re: CUPS set-up for the 0.01%

2015-06-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 08:11:51AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote:
 
 It would, there is an ampersand in there. If you want to pass that URL
 from the command line, you have to escape it with a backslash - like this:
 
 http://localhost:631/help/ref-cupsd-conf.html?TOPIC=References\QUERY=#Listen

I guess the '?' could cause a problem also, i.e. it does in zsh, a
workaround is to put the whole url between single quotes, e.g.

lynx 
'http://localhost:631/help/ref-cupsd-conf.html?TOPIC=ReferencesQUERY=#Listen'

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Re: Asunto relacionado con 'kernel panic'

2015-06-14 Thread kazabe
El día 13 de junio de 2015, 8:53, Miguel Matos
unefistano...@gmail.com escribió:
 ¿esto dónde
 se guarda para compartirlo, por qué sucede sólo con GNOME3 y cómo se
 descifra lo que muestra?


Posiblemente algo quede en /var/log/kern.log.  Pero te soy muy
sincero.  Tuve experiencias similares con gnome3 y fue mas practico
dejar de usarlo que perder tiempo resolviendo el problema.  Mas que
tener un escritorio funcionando, necesitaba poder usar mi equipo
tranquilo.  En mi caso encontre que el administrador de ventanas de
gnome era el causante del problema, asi que le dedique un tiempo a
cambiarlo pero era necesario personalizar tantas cosas, que decidi
mejor usar un administrador de ventanas y dedicarme a otras cosas mas
trascendentales que eso.

A veces la solucion no amerita el esfuerzo.

saludos


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Re: systemd equivalent

2015-06-14 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sat, 2015-06-13 at 16:35 -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote:
 But it turns out I haven't yet found a way to do that, 
 that is, replicate (more or less) the output of 'ps 
 ax| grep ssh' using sysctl commands. They don't seem 
 to register, as it were, my ssh tunnel.

But systemd manages services (daemons) like sshd, but you set up the ssh
tunnel using the client, ssh right?

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Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-14 Thread Petter Adsen
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 14:37:47 +0800
Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:
 IIn running Synaptic, and searching on the string nvidia, to find what
 nvidia drivers are installed (as I do not know how else to find that
 information, in Debian 6), I found the following two packages
 installed;
 
 
 xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
 X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver (experimental)
 
 Version: 1:0.0.15+git20100329+7858345-5
 
 
 and
 
 
 xserver-xorg-video-nv
 X.Org X server -- NV display driver
 
 Version: 1:2.1.17-3
 
 
 So, I will try to install them, on the system with the GEForce GT750M,
 and find what happens.

Check that they support your GPU at all first, sometimes it takes a
little time for the open source drivers to implement support for the
latest models. nVidia is really bad at releasing documentation that is
needed by the nouveau developers.

Other than that, I was under the impression that you had already tried
them and had to use the proprietary drivers. You may have much better
luck with nouveau.

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Re: GITeando en linux :D

2015-06-14 Thread kazabe
El día 11 de junio de 2015, 2:39, Ala de Dragón
aladedra...@gmail.com escribió:
 Buenos dias :D

 Últimamente vengo cotilleando acerca del proyecto devian-live.
 Tienen un repositorio GIT con el trabajan.
 La verdad es que nunca use GIT.
 He buscado en la red, la wiki y me he abierto una cuenta en github.
 Me gustaría charlar acerca de GIT, como funciona, como se usa y leerme
 algún manual menos tosco el man git.
 Un saludo
 :)
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Hola

No se como fue tu busqueda en la red, pero google me arrojo esto como
primera opcion al preguntarle por tutorial git

http://rogerdudler.github.io/git-guide/index.es.html

es excelente para arrancar

saludos


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evitar que google muestre archivos pdf del server

2015-06-14 Thread kazabe
Holas

En un servidor donde tenemos una pequeña (y vieja) intranet se
publican a los usuarios algunos documentos de procedimientos internos
y otras cosas.  Ultimamente hemos notado que google muestra en los
resultados de busqueda algunos de esos documentos.  No es informacion
altamente confidencial, pero tampoco es necesario que google la
muestre en sus busquedas.

Lo ideal seria proteger el acceso con una validacion previa de los
usuarios, pero esto seria modificar el sitio como tal, lo cual
realmente no vale la pena, ya que seguira publicado hasta que su
reemplazo este listo (estan en ese desarrollo, pero no se
especificamente cuando sera tal cosa).  Busco entonces establecer
controles desde el mismo servidor web, o desde el firewall.

Investigando he encontrado que con un robot.txt puede definirse que
deseo y que no deseo que sea indexado por google.  Tambien he
modificado el mime en apache para que no permita la lectura en linea
del archivo sino que obligue su descarga, para luego proceder a
renombrar el directorio que contiene los documentos, para evitar el
acceso a los mismos por medio del cache de google.

Lo anterior solo aplica para controles directos desde apache.  No se
si podria implementar algo complementario en el firewall o si usando
un proxy inverso puedo agregar algun control para esa situacion

Pueden ustedes algunos otros metodos adicionales para evitar por medio
del servidor que esos archivos puedan ser encontrados sin que se
conozca explicitamente su ruta?

Muchas gracias a todos.

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Re: [OT] Consulta tonta

2015-06-14 Thread kazabe
El día 9 de junio de 2015, 20:40, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus
arad...@gmail.com escribió:
 Eso lo entiendo y en aras de la claridad, te comento:

 A) Documentos de texto tanto ofimáticos como de texto plano de ciertos
 documentos y bases de datos, hojas de cálculo, presentaciones, en PDF
 y algunas imágenes.


Con un pc comun (de preferencia con buena fuente de poder) te montas
un debian con owncloud y listo.   Te recomiendo en especial owncloud
por lo facil de manejar para los usuarios (solo deben guardar sus
archivos en una carpeta) y el versionado de los mismos.  Este tema de
versiones requerira que tengas buen espacio en disco, pero en este
momento cualquier pc te soporta discos de al menos 1 tera.

Es posible que con el tiempo necesites escalar la plataforma, pero
mientras eso sucede, la empresa ira creciendo, y podran invertir en
algo mas robusto.  La necesidad crea el organo.

saludos


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wi fi

2015-06-14 Thread Zbigniew Dachowski
Dzień Dobry
Od kilku lat testuję systemy operacyjne linux. Ucieszyła mnie nowa dystrybuc
ja Debian 8. Ale ponownie nie ma instalatora sieci wi-fi. Albo nie potrafie 
tego zrobic. Chyba dlatego linux 
pozostanie tylko systemem dla wybrańców a nie dla ludzi.
Proszę o podanie, jesli to mozliwe lub przez uprzejość wskazać
graficzny program instalacji sieci wi fi na laptopie. Taki,który
rozpozna sieć domową bez problemu i ręcznego jej dopisywania.
Bardzo proszę jesli to możliwe o pomoc.
Z poważaniem Zbigniew Dachowski
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Re: Contactes amb l'ajuntament de Barcelona?

2015-06-14 Thread Joan

Jo també vaig cap allà!

Joan Cervan

On 13/06/15 21:21, Pedro wrote:

Llavors, potser que seguim la discussió a la llista admpub si esteu
d'acord (em subscric). Sembla lo més apropiat.

https://llistes.softcatala.org/mailman/listinfo/admpub

Vinga animeu-vos. Que si algú ha de incentivar això som nosaltres!



2015-06-13 21:00 GMT+02:00 Alex Muntada al...@caliu.cat:

A la llista d'admpub de Softcatalà s'ha revifat aquest tema fa poc:

https://llistes.softcatala.org/mailman/listinfo/admpub

Salut,
Alex





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Re: INICIO EN DEBIAN PROBLEMA URGENTE

2015-06-14 Thread kazabe
El día 12 de junio de 2015, 17:39, Osvaldo Dimitroff
odimitr...@gmail.com escribió:
 Estimados ante todo gracias por su tiempo. Resulta que soy novato en debian.

[...]


 Linux candela 3.16.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1 (2015-05-24)
 i686
 familia@candela: ~$



Aqui ya estas dentro del linux, asi que felicitaciones.  Esta es la
parte donde tomas un tutorial cualquiera de debian y comienzas a
experimentar este nuevo mundo.

Por cierto: investiga un poco sobre la netiqueta.   Es comprensible
que te sientas abrumado por estar comenzando en esto, pero en medios
escritos las palabras adquieren una gran trascendencia.  No creo que
llegues a la sala de urgencia de una clinica gritando desesperadamente
buscando algun neurocirujano que pueda liberarte de la gran emergencia
que experimentaste cuando te cortaron el cabello y no quedo parejo.

saludos y sigue adelante, que esto es un cuento muy divertido!


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Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-14 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/06/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 14/06/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote:
 On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 14:37:47 +0800
 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:
 IIn running Synaptic, and searching on the string nvidia, to find what
 nvidia drivers are installed (as I do not know how else to find that
 information, in Debian 6), I found the following two packages
 installed;

 
 xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
 X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver (experimental)

 Version: 1:0.0.15+git20100329+7858345-5
 

 and

 
 xserver-xorg-video-nv
 X.Org X server -- NV display driver

 Version: 1:2.1.17-3
 

 So, I will try to install them, on the system with the GEForce GT750M,
 and find what happens.

 Check that they support your GPU at all first, sometimes it takes a
 little time for the open source drivers to implement support for the
 latest models. nVidia is really bad at releasing documentation that is
 needed by the nouveau developers.

 Other than that, I was under the impression that you had already tried
 them and had to use the proprietary drivers. You may have much better
 luck with nouveau.

 Petter

 --
 I'm ionized
 Are you sure?
 I'm positive.


 Houston, we have a problem

 
 E: libgl1-nvidia-alternatives: subprocess installed post-installation
 script returned error exit status 2
 E: libgl1-nvidia-glx: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
 E: nvidia-glx: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
 

 ?

 Unfortunately, the dialogue box that included that notification, does
 not provide further details.

 And, the Synaptic Changes applied dialogue box, which does provide
 (some) details, does not allow the information to be copied (which
 would otherwise allow the information to be pasted into a message
 seeking help).

 However, in remembering that one of the packages involved, was
 nvidia-glx , from the command line, I get

 
 :~# apt-get install nvidia-glx
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 nvidia-glx is already the newest version.
 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
 3 not fully installed or removed.
 After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
 Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
 Setting up libgl1-nvidia-alternatives (195.36.31-6squeeze2) ...
 Leaving 'diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so to
 /usr/lib/nvidia/diversions/libGL.so by libgl1-nvidia-alternatives'
 Leaving 'diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to
 /usr/lib/nvidia/diversions/libGL.so.1 by libgl1-nvidia-alternatives'
 Leaving 'diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to
 /usr/lib/nvidia/diversions/libGL.so.1.2 by libgl1-nvidia-alternatives'
 Processing triggers for libgl1-nvidia-alternatives ...
 update-alternatives: error: alternative path
 /usr/lib/nvidia/diversions/libGL.so.1 doesn't exist.
 dpkg: error processing libgl1-nvidia-alternatives (--configure):
  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
 configured to not write apport reports
   dpkg: dependency problems
 prevent configuration of libgl1-nvidia-glx:
  libgl1-nvidia-glx depends on libgl1-nvidia-alternatives; however:
   Package libgl1-nvidia-alternatives is not configured yet.
 dpkg: error processing libgl1-nvidia-glx (--configure):
  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
 configured to not write apport reports
   dpkg: dependency problems
 prevent configuration of nvidia-glx:
  nvidia-glx depends on libgl1-nvidia-glx (= 195.36.31-6squeeze2); however:
   Package libgl1-nvidia-glx is not configured yet.
 dpkg: error processing nvidia-glx (--configure):
  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
 configured to not write apport reports
   Errors were encountered while
 processing:
  libgl1-nvidia-alternatives
  libgl1-nvidia-glx
  nvidia-glx
 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
 



Similarly with


:~# apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau-dbg
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau-dbg is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
3 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
Setting up libgl1-nvidia-alternatives (195.36.31-6squeeze2) ...
Leaving 'diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so to
/usr/lib/nvidia/diversions/libGL.so by libgl1-nvidia-alternatives'
Leaving 'diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to
/usr/lib/nvidia/diversions/libGL.so.1 by libgl1-nvidia-alternatives'
Leaving 'diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to
/usr/lib/nvidia/diversions/libGL.so.1.2 by libgl1-nvidia-alternatives'
Processing triggers for libgl1-nvidia-alternatives ...
update-alternatives: error: alternative path
/usr/lib/nvidia/diversions/libGL.so.1 doesn't exist.
dpkg: error processing libgl1-nvidia-alternatives 

Re: Lentitud en el apagado.

2015-06-14 Thread kazabe
2015-06-13 12:52 GMT-05:00 Santiago Vila sanv...@unex.es:
 On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 08:57:31AM -0500, Germán Avendaño Ramírez wrote:


 El apagado anterior era demasiado rápido.



o sea que no es un fallo sino una funcionalidad?


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Re: HS_Re: umask spécifique à un répertoire

2015-06-14 Thread mireero

On 06/13/2015 04:40 PM, Maderios wrote:

On 06/13/2015 10:52 AM, Fabien R wrote:

On 10/06/2015 20:33, NicoLagaffe wrote:

Ba oui, effectivement, je dis n'importe quoi. Ca ne sert qu'a conserver le 
groupe du repertoire parent. Rien a voir avec les droits.
Autant pour moi...

Au temps ... :-)

Tout à fait exact

http://www.academie-francaise.fr/la-langue-francaise/questions-de-langue#16_strong-em-au-temps-pour-moi-em-strong
Au temps pour moi
Il est impossible de savoir précisément quand et comment est apparue
l’expression familière au temps pour moi, issue du langage militaire,
dans laquelle au temps ! se dit pour commander la reprise d’un mouvement
depuis le début (au temps pour les crosses, etc.). De ce sens de C’est à
reprendre, on a pu glisser à l’emploi figuré. On dit Au temps pour moi
pour admettre son erreur – et concéder que l’on va reprendre ou
reconsidérer les choses depuis leur début.

L’origine de cette expression n’étant plus comprise, la graphie Autant
pour moi est courante aujourd’hui, mais rien ne la justifie.



J'adore, je l'écrirais comme ça maintenant :)

Même dans une lettre officielle et je les renverrai vers ton message 
(cool, usenet ça s'efface pas... ou pas cool peut-être mais bref) si ça 
les offusque!


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Re: CUPS set-up for the 0.01%

2015-06-14 Thread briand
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 08:11:51 +0200
Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote:

 It would, there is an ampersand in there. If you want to pass that URL
 from the command line, you have to escape it with a backslash - like this:
 
 http://localhost:631/help/ref-cupsd-conf.html?TOPIC=References\QUERY=#Listen
 

doh! i should have caught that. how embarrassing. ty.

 Try that.
 

connection refused.



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Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-14 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/06/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote:
 On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 14:37:47 +0800
 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:
 IIn running Synaptic, and searching on the string nvidia, to find what
 nvidia drivers are installed (as I do not know how else to find that
 information, in Debian 6), I found the following two packages
 installed;

 
 xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
 X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver (experimental)

 Version: 1:0.0.15+git20100329+7858345-5
 

 and

 
 xserver-xorg-video-nv
 X.Org X server -- NV display driver

 Version: 1:2.1.17-3
 

 So, I will try to install them, on the system with the GEForce GT750M,
 and find what happens.

 Check that they support your GPU at all first, sometimes it takes a
 little time for the open source drivers to implement support for the
 latest models. nVidia is really bad at releasing documentation that is
 needed by the nouveau developers.

 Other than that, I was under the impression that you had already tried
 them and had to use the proprietary drivers. You may have much better
 luck with nouveau.

 Petter

 --
 I'm ionized
 Are you sure?
 I'm positive.


Houston, we have a problem


E: libgl1-nvidia-alternatives: subprocess installed post-installation
script returned error exit status 2
E: libgl1-nvidia-glx: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
E: nvidia-glx: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured


?

Unfortunately, the dialogue box that included that notification, does
not provide further details.

And, the Synaptic Changes applied dialogue box, which does provide
(some) details, does not allow the information to be copied (which
would otherwise allow the information to be pasted into a message
seeking help).

However, in remembering that one of the packages involved, was
nvidia-glx , from the command line, I get


:~# apt-get install nvidia-glx
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
nvidia-glx is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
3 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
Setting up libgl1-nvidia-alternatives (195.36.31-6squeeze2) ...
Leaving 'diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so to
/usr/lib/nvidia/diversions/libGL.so by libgl1-nvidia-alternatives'
Leaving 'diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to
/usr/lib/nvidia/diversions/libGL.so.1 by libgl1-nvidia-alternatives'
Leaving 'diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to
/usr/lib/nvidia/diversions/libGL.so.1.2 by libgl1-nvidia-alternatives'
Processing triggers for libgl1-nvidia-alternatives ...
update-alternatives: error: alternative path
/usr/lib/nvidia/diversions/libGL.so.1 doesn't exist.
dpkg: error processing libgl1-nvidia-alternatives (--configure):
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
configured to not write apport reports
  dpkg: dependency problems
prevent configuration of libgl1-nvidia-glx:
 libgl1-nvidia-glx depends on libgl1-nvidia-alternatives; however:
  Package libgl1-nvidia-alternatives is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing libgl1-nvidia-glx (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
configured to not write apport reports
  dpkg: dependency problems
prevent configuration of nvidia-glx:
 nvidia-glx depends on libgl1-nvidia-glx (= 195.36.31-6squeeze2); however:
  Package libgl1-nvidia-glx is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing nvidia-glx (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
configured to not write apport reports
  Errors were encountered while processing:
 libgl1-nvidia-alternatives
 libgl1-nvidia-glx
 nvidia-glx
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)



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Armadale
West Australia
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So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means.
- Deep Thought,
 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
 A Trilogy In Four Parts,
 written by Douglas Adams,
 published by Pan Books, 1992




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Re: Sincronizacion Samsung

2015-06-14 Thread kazabe
2015-06-13 6:27 GMT-05:00 J.B jbrazuel...@gmail.com:
 Alguno tiene sincronizado un Samsung Galaxy Note3 con Debian u Debian

Directamente no da.

Yo sincronizo archivos con owncloud.


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Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-14 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/06/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 13/06/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 13/06/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote:
 On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 03:54:49 +0800
 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 13/06/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 12/06/2015, Matthijs Wensveen matthijs.wensv...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
 
  On 11-6-2015 7:13, Bret Busby wrote:
  On 11/06/2015, Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 06/10/2015 03:45 PM, Bret Busby wrote:
  On 11/06/2015, Nick T. n...@ncktsp.com wrote:
  Oops, forgot to cc in the mailing list.
 
  - Nick
 
  On 06/10/2015 09:19 PM, Nick T. wrote:
  Install build-essential it should contain all the packages
  necessary to install the driver.
  Also you might want to install dkms if you don't want to
  reinstall the
  driver after every kernel update.
 
  - Nick
 
 
  Thank you for that.
 
  The driver installation appears to have subsequently succeeded.
 
  However, after rebooting, the system still does not see the
  external monitor (using System - Preferences - Monitors), and
  I don't think that will work. Try using nvidia-settings.
 
 
  As I had said, xwindows now no longer works on the system.
 
  What do I need to do, at the command line level, to get xwindows
  operable on the system?
 
  In the circumstances, it appears to be a congiuration or settings
  issue.
 
  Or, despite the information on the nvidia web site, perhaps the
  driver simply does not work with Debian 6.
 
  I note that the gcc version issues showed that the gcc version
  applicable to the driver, appeared to be an earlier version (4.3,
  I think) than the installed version when I installed gcc (4.4, I
  think) (but the discrepancy appeared to have been overcome in the
  procedure that I followed), indicating (I believe) that Debian 6
  should not be a version to early for thenvidia driver.
 
 
 
  It might be that you need to generate an Xorg.conf file from
  scratch. Make sure to backup any existing configuration file first
  (/etc/X11/xorg.conf). You can generate one using the nvidia-xconfig
  package:
  https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Configuration
  - Matthijs
 
 
 
  Hello.
 
  As previously mentioned, that wiki web page refers to only Debian 7
  and 8, and not to Debian 6, which is the applicable version.
 
  I will reboot into Debian 6 (I am currently in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS,
  which allows use of the external monitor, and which provided
  installation of an earlier (v3.3) nvidia driver), and see what I
  can find in the specified path.
 
 

 Okay.

 In running ls on /etc/X11/ , a file xorg.conf was listed, as was a
 file named xorg.conf.nvidia-xconfig-original

 The latter file showed no content, in running cat on it.

 The former file had content;

 
 # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
 # nvidia-xconfig:  version 346.72
 (buildmeister@swio-display-x64-rhel04-19)  Tue May  5 18:19:38 PDT
 2015

 Section ServerLayout
 Identifier Layout0
 Screen  0  Screen0
 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
 EndSection

 Section Files
 EndSection

 Section InputDevice
 # generated from default
 Identifier Mouse0
 Driver mouse
 Option Protocol auto
 Option Device /dev/psaux
 Option Emulate3Buttons no
 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
 EndSection

 Section InputDevice
 # generated from default
 Identifier Keyboard0
 Driver kbd
 EndSection

 Section Monitor
 Identifier Monitor0
 VendorName Unknown
 ModelName  Unknown
 HorizSync   28.0 - 33.0
 VertRefresh 43.0 - 72.0
 Option DPMS
 EndSection

 Section Device
 Identifier Device0
 Driver nvidia
 VendorName NVIDIA Corporation
 EndSection

 Section Screen
 Identifier Screen0
 Device Device0
 MonitorMonitor0
 DefaultDepth24
 SubSection Display
 Depth   24
 EndSubSection
 EndSection
 

 In thinking about it, as the creation of that file, had rendered
 xwindows inoperable, I renamed the file, with an extra extension, and
 rebooted.

 So, I now have xwindows operating again, on Debian 6, on this
 computer, but, the only way that I can get the external monitor to
 work, is by running one of the two Ubuntu installations; 12.04 or
 14.04. Unfortunately, they both involve GNOME3, and what I think of
 GNOME3, is not polite.

 So, I still can not get the external monitor to run, with Debian 6 or
 7, on this computer, with its nvidia GEForce GT750M device.

 If it works under Ubuntu, have you considered copying the
 (working) xorg.conf file from there and trying it in your Debian
 installation?

 Petter


 No, I hadn't considered that. It is a logical and good idea. Thank you
 for
 that.

 However, having now tried it, I got both screens blank - nothing
 displayed.

 So, I also 

Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

2015-06-14 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/06/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote:


 Check that they support your GPU at all first, sometimes it takes a
 little time for the open source drivers to implement support for the
 latest models. nVidia is really bad at releasing documentation that is
 needed by the nouveau developers.

 Other than that, I was under the impression that you had already tried
 them and had to use the proprietary drivers. You may have much better
 luck with nouveau.


At this stage, as everything that was expected to work, apparently
doesn't, including the manufacturer's driver, it has become a matter
of grasping at straws.


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 you'll know what the answer means.
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 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
 A Trilogy In Four Parts,
 written by Douglas Adams,
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Re: SMTP/HTTP/Tor Connections Timing Out

2015-06-14 Thread tomas
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Hash: SHA1

On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:51:14PM +1000, Riley Baird wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Many of my connections are timing out. For example, I can't use SMTP to
 send a message if it's over ~1500 bytes [...]

This sounds suspiciously as if your box were using an MTU[1] which is too
big for the path (1500 is about the Ethernet MTU. Perhaps along the path
there is a link with a smaller MTU (typically something encapsulating
the packets, which needs some room for headers, so the available payload
per packet schrinks accordingly).

In the Good Old Days, your box would get an ICMP reply from the router
in-between by this router, telling that the MTU is too big, but these
days, over-eager firewalls tend to filter out these things.

Try to reduce the MTU of your interface, with something along the lines
of

  sudo ifconfig eth0 mtu 1400

(of course, you'd have to replace eth0 by the real name of your interface.
Just come back here if you don't know what I'm babbling about :-)

If that works, we can talk about how to make this change more permanent.

Rgards
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_transmission_unit
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Re: [OT] Consulta tonta

2015-06-14 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 13 Jun 2015 15:58:37 -0500, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus
escribió:

 El 10 de junio de 2015, 8:24 a. m., Camaleón escribió:

(...)

 Multimedia no tanto, mas bien son documentos en pdf, ofimaticos
 (¡puaj!), imágenes y ya. Videos no ni animaciones. Sin embargo no
 conozco nada de CMS/ECM que mencionas. Y de CVS lo que conozco es git.
 Sé que existen otras opciones como tortoise y otra que no recuerdo
 pero la verdad es que me da algo de pereza aprenderlas.

 Un CMS o ECM son sistemas de colaboración y/o gestión documental
 basados en web (de cara al usuario) y detrás lo que hay son las
 herramientas duras con las que nadie quiere tratar pero que todos
 necesitan (bdd, servidores de correo, CVS/Git, etc...).
 
 Entiendo eso, a lo que iba es si conocías alguno o que opciones
 sugerías.

(...)

Tienes para aburrir, pero dependiendo de lo que necesites (más enfocado a 
documentos, gestión de archivos multimedia, redes sociales, 
mensajería...) y de los sistemas que lo integran (tipo de base de datos, 
lenguaje de programación, etc...) te decantarás por uno u otro.

Wikipedia tiene una lista con algunas opciones:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Document_collaboration

Destacaría dos: KnowledgeTree (http://www.knowledgetree.com/) y la 
solcuión de eXo (http://www.exoplatform.com/).

Saludos,

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Re: evitar que google muestre archivos pdf del server

2015-06-14 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 14 Jun 2015 03:22:35 -0500, kazabe escribió:

 Holas
 
 En un servidor donde tenemos una pequeña (y vieja) intranet se publican
 a los usuarios algunos documentos de procedimientos internos y otras
 cosas.  Ultimamente hemos notado que google muestra en los resultados de
 busqueda algunos de esos documentos.  No es informacion altamente
 confidencial, pero tampoco es necesario que google la muestre en sus
 busquedas.

Si Google muestra ese contenido es que la intranet es accesible desde 
Internet ¿no? :-?

 Lo ideal seria proteger el acceso con una validacion previa de los
 usuarios, pero esto seria modificar el sitio como tal, lo cual realmente
 no vale la pena, ya que seguira publicado hasta que su reemplazo este
 listo (estan en ese desarrollo, pero no se especificamente cuando sera
 tal cosa).  Busco entonces establecer controles desde el mismo servidor
 web, o desde el firewall.
 
 Investigando he encontrado que con un robot.txt puede definirse que
 deseo y que no deseo que sea indexado por google.  Tambien he modificado
 el mime en apache para que no permita la lectura en linea del archivo
 sino que obligue su descarga, para luego proceder a renombrar el
 directorio que contiene los documentos, para evitar el acceso a los
 mismos por medio del cache de google.

Recuerda que el archivo robots.txt no siempre lo siguen el resto de 
buscadores. Los buenos (Google, Yahoo!, Bing...) sí, pero los malosos 
hacen caso omiso.
 
 Lo anterior solo aplica para controles directos desde apache.  No se si
 podria implementar algo complementario en el firewall o si usando un
 proxy inverso puedo agregar algun control para esa situacion

Si los documentos que quieres bloquear los proporciona el servidor web, 
lo lógico es que sea éste quien los proteja o bloquee el acceso. Un 
firewall (IPS) es demasiado rebuscado para ese trabajo, creo yo...
 
 Pueden ustedes algunos otros metodos adicionales para evitar por medio
 del servidor que esos archivos puedan ser encontrados sin que se conozca
 explicitamente su ruta?

Una forma sencilla es a través del archivo .htaccess, donde podrás 
configurar qué documentos quieres poner accesibles o no (p. ej., 
redireccionándolo a otro recurso).

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Re: Midori

2015-06-14 Thread Adrien
Le 14/06/2015 19:10, Benoit B a écrit :
 Bonjour la liste,

 Pourquoi Midori n'est-il plus dans le dépôt stable ?
 Il est toujours possible de télécharger le paquet debian ici
 http://midori-browser.org/download/debian/
 Mais j'hésite à l'installer sur mon système.
 Là je suis en train de le tester après l'avoir installé sur une live
 avec persistance. Tout à l'aire de fonctionner...

 Qui a des infos ?

 Merci d'avance

 -- 
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Bonjour Benoît,
Pour info, je me suis dit la même chose il y a deux semaines ici :
https://www.debian-fr.org/midori-n-existe-pas-sous-jessie-t52283.html

Si ça peut faire avancer le schmilblick...

Adrien.




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Re: Why Debian 8.1 has no torrents beyond first 3 DVD ISO images

2015-06-14 Thread John Hasler
arnuld uttre writes:
 Well, I need many packages which normal users don't use, like stumpwm,
 ppcre, sbcl, clisp, gcc, mpd, gmpc, feh, theora etc. I have used
 Debian Sarge (and in those days I only had CDs) and I noticed some
 package I wanted were only in last few CDs

You don't need the source packages nor the ones for architectures other
than your own.
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Re: CUPS set-up for the 0.01%

2015-06-14 Thread Brian
On Sun 14 Jun 2015 at 08:03:59 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:

 On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 12:35:57 +0100
 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
 
  The server listens *on* one or more interfaces. Each interface has a
  single network address. 192.168.1.0/24 isn't a single network address. 
 
 ty, i now have access to server.
 
 i have cups-client installed on my client machine.

Then this and its dependencies is all you need on the client. Any cups
or other printing packages are useless to you if you are using a
client.conf on the client. Are you? Please post its contents if you are.

 I think this is what i need in cupsd.conf to access server to actually print.
 
 Location /
   Order allow,deny
   Allow 192.168.1.0/24
 /Location

Testable, isn't it? I wouldn't alter cupsd.conf on the server from the
default.
 
 Interesting ...
 
 I thought that I would only need cups-client, but that appears to be
 not true.
 
 if you need the cups server to run to connect from the _client_
 machine, why isn't the cups package required by cups-client ?

cups-client on the client machine doesn't need cupsd on the same
machine because you are requiring all processing to take place on the
server. 
 
 i have an ethernet printer, i can't for the life of me figure out how
 to tell cups what the IP address of the printer is...

CUPS will tell you:

  /usr/sbin/lpinfo -v


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Re: Midori

2015-06-14 Thread Maderios
On 06/14/2015 07:10 PM, Benoit B wrote:
 Bonjour la liste,
 
 Pourquoi Midori n'est-il plus dans le dépôt stable ?
 Il est toujours possible de télécharger le paquet debian ici
 http://midori-browser.org/download/debian/
 Mais j'hésite à l'installer sur mon système.
 Là je suis en train de le tester après l'avoir installé sur une live
 avec persistance. Tout à l'aire de fonctionner...
 
 Qui a des infos ?
 
Bonjour
J'utilise le Midori de Sid sur Stable et Sid.
Je ne vois pas où est le problème. Il faudrait chercher la cause de son
éviction dans la page des bugs (bon courage...)
-
Maderios

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Re: Midori

2015-06-14 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
Le dimanche 14 juin 2015, 19:49:51 Maderios a écrit :
[…]
 Je ne vois pas où est le problème. Il faudrait chercher la
 cause de son éviction dans la page des bugs (bon courage...)

1. Aller sur la page « Developer Information (PTS) » :
http://packages.qa.debian.org/midori
  ou sur le nouveau « Tracker » :
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/midori

2. lire le cadre « News », on y voit, dans l’ordre chronologique 
inverse :

[2015-04-27] midori 0.4.3+dfsg-0.2 MIGRATED to testing (Britney)

[2014-11-06] Accepted midori 0.4.3+dfsg-0.2 (source amd64) into 
unstable (Neil Williams)

[2014-09-29] midori REMOVED from testing (Britney)

  Donc, le 29 septembre, midori a été viré de testing, il n’est 
revenu dans unstable que le 6 novembre, donc trop trad pour 
Jessie. Il n’est revenu dans testing que juste après la sortie 
de Jessie (27 avril).

  La raison de son éviction est donnée par le lien de la 
troisième entrée :
  https://tracker.debian.org/news/574181
soit le bogue 759959
  https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=759959

Pas si difficile…

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Re: CUPS set-up for the 0.01%

2015-06-14 Thread briand
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 12:35:57 +0100
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:


 The server listens *on* one or more interfaces. Each interface has a
 single network address. 192.168.1.0/24 isn't a single network address. 

ty, i now have access to server.

i have cups-client installed on my client machine.

I think this is what i need in cupsd.conf to access server to actually print.

Location /
  Order allow,deny
  Allow 192.168.1.0/24
/Location

Interesting ...

I thought that I would only need cups-client, but that appears to be not true.

if you need the cups server to run to connect from the _client_ machine, why 
isn't the cups package required by cups-client ?

i have an ethernet printer, i can't for the life of me figure out how to tell 
cups what the IP address of the printer is...



Brian


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Re: [SOLUCIONADO] Problema con el LED NumLock y teclas modificadoras

2015-06-14 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 13 Jun 2015 03:25:58 -0430, Frederit Mogollon escribió:

 Lo lamento, en el segmento anterior accidentalmente y no sé cómo
 sucedió, pero sucedió, apreté el botón enviar. o.O
 
 Aquí va completo el mensaje:
 
 Bueno, logré solucionar localmente el problema, dejando el sistema como
 quería para una funcionalidad extrema. :-)
 
 
 A continuación, haré un resumen de lo que hice por si a alguien le sirve
 en un futuro.

(...)

 Lo que determiné y la solución
 -
 
 Después de varios intentos fallidos, pero que permitieron descartar
 paquetes inicialmente sospechosos, se llegó a la conclusión de que la
 extensión de teclado de X (XKB) de xorg, setxkbmap y/o x11-xkb-utils,
 tienen bugs que:
 
 -  No permiten usar el comando setxkbmap en cualquier parte del
 archivo de configuración de conky. La presencia de esta orden en el
 texto de conky, provocaba que se apagase el LED NumLock al presionar las
 teclas modificadoras. Ignoro si esto se deberá más bien a un bug en
 conky. No encontré nada específico en la búsqueda que hice en la
 Internet.

(...)

La cuestión es si esa línea (¿qué comando es, exactamente?) que invoca al 
comando setxkbmap la ha añadido automáticamente Conky o lo has hecho 
tú, manualmente. Si es lo primero, obviamente se trata de un bug que 
deberías informar a los desarrolladores de la aplicación (o en el BTS de 
Debian si has instalado el paquete desde los repos) pero si la has 
añadido tú pues entonces tienes que leer el manual para saber cómo y 
dónde ponerla, qué parámetros admite, etc.

Por otra parte, Conky no hace más que ejecutar el comando que se ha 
dicho, igual que si lo ejecutas desde una terminal, así que más que un 
error suyo se trataría de un problema con el comando en sí mismo.

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Re: INICIO EN DEBIAN PROBLEMA URGENTE

2015-06-14 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El Fri, 12 Jun 2015 19:39:42 -0300
Osvaldo Dimitroff odimitr...@gmail.com escribió:

 Estimados ante todo gracias por su tiempo. Resulta que soy novato en
 debian. Logre instalar la ultima version estable perfectamente el problema
 surge cuando al inicio me pide los datos de accesos configurados en la
 instalacion, esto es usuario y password. Resulta que escribo mi usuario
 luego mi password y el sistema pero se queda ahi en un comando
 
 Ejemplo: INCICIA EL SISTEMA...
 
 me pide los datos de acceso
 
 candela login: aca escribo el dato que en mi caso es familia
 luego me pide la clave
 password: ingreso tambien este dato
 
 Luego pasa a la siguiente linea:
 
 Linux candela 3.16.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1 (2015-05-24)
 i686
 familia@candela: ~$
 
 
 Espero que me ayuden a seguir porque no se que significa ni que tengo que
 escribir aqui

Leiste el manual de instalacion?
Leiste algo sobre Debian??
Leiste algo sobre Lisnux??
Leiste algo??

 
 Desde ya muchas gracias!
 Osvaldo (Argentina)


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Re: Lentitud en el apagado.

2015-06-14 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 13 Jun 2015 08:57:31 -0500, Germán Avendaño Ramírez escribió:

 He notado que después de la actualización a jessie 8.1 mi portátil se
 está demorando más de lo habitual en el apagado. Con la versión 8.0 el
 apagado era supremamente rápido.
 
 Consulté el archivo /var/log/syslog y me arroja las siguientes
 adavertencias a la hora del apagado.
 
 Jun 12 21:35:11 Toshiba-Satellite-m645 mate-session[824]: WARNING:
 Unable to find desktop file 'Turpial.desktop': No se pudo encontrar la
 clave de archivo válida en las carpetas de búsqueda Jun 12 21:35:11
 Toshiba-Satellite-m645 mate-session[824]: WARNING: Unable to find
 desktop file 'mate-Turpial.desktop': No se pudo encontrar la clave de
 archivo válida en las carpetas de búsqueda Jun 12 21:35:11
 Toshiba-Satellite-m645 mate-session[824]: WARNING: Unable to load
 desktop file '/usr/bin/owncloud.desktop': No existe el fichero o el
 directorio 

Pero esos mensajes te debían de aparecer también en la versión anterior 
(8.0) ¿no? :-?

 Parece ser, que no puede encontrar los archivos Turpial.desktop,
 mate-Turpial.desktop y /usr/bin/owncloud.desktop. ¿Qué habrá ocurrido?

Si los archivos no existen (¿existen? :-) ) podrás copiarlos/pegarlos en 
sus respectivas rutas pero no estoy segura de que eso resuelva el 
problema de fondo ya que se tratan de archivos de configuración de 
escritorio (.desktop). 

Si tienes instalado otro entorno gráfico prueba con él para ver si notas 
la misma lentitud al apagar el equipo.

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2015-06-14 Thread pete

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Midori

2015-06-14 Thread Benoit B
Bonjour la liste,

Pourquoi Midori n'est-il plus dans le dépôt stable ?
Il est toujours possible de télécharger le paquet debian ici
http://midori-browser.org/download/debian/
Mais j'hésite à l'installer sur mon système.
Là je suis en train de le tester après l'avoir installé sur une live avec
persistance. Tout à l'aire de fonctionner...

Qui a des infos ?

Merci d'avance

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Re: systemd equivalent

2015-06-14 Thread Brian
On Sun 14 Jun 2015 at 13:51:47 -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote:

 On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:19:30PM +0100, Brian wrote:
 
  I think everyone is trying to point out you have encountered 
  the age-old Square Peg in a Round Hole conundrum.
 
 I knew you wouldn't let me down. *plonk*

The objective is not to disappoint.


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Re: No puedo acceder a sitio web especifico. Estare bloqueado?

2015-06-14 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 14 Jun 2015 04:11:05 -0500, kazabe escribió:

 El día 25 de febrero de 2015, 17:42, Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena
 egis_e...@yahoo.com.ar escribió:
 Con fecha Miércoles, 25 de Febrero de 2015, 09:26:34 a.m., kazabe
 escribió:
 Desde hace varios dias he notado que desde mi red no podemos acceder a
 un sitio web especifico gubernamental.
 
 Revivo el tema porque encontre un detalle extraño.  Si desde mi firewall
 intento contactar el sitio, no responde.  No ping, no nmap,
 no nada; pero si conecto el router del ISP a mi laptop, si puedo acceder
 al sitio.  Esto descarta problemas por el isp creo yo.

No sólo descarta problemas del ISP sino que te apunta al culpable: el 
cortafuegos :-)
 
 Pero me queda la duda:  como puede mi servidor tener algun tipo de
 bloqueo para que ni el mismo pueda conectarse a ese sitio?  no tengo
 ninguna regla en el firewall que pueda tener relacion con tal situacion
 y si la tuviera, no seria para el mismo servidor.

Los cortafuegos son elementos muy complejos en una red, por lo que 
tendrás que dar más detalles de la configuración de la misma, así como 
del cortafuegos que dices que hay (¿iptables?). 

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Re: Ejecutar sin entorno grafico una aplicacion en fullscreen

2015-06-14 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 12 Jun 2015 13:43:33 -0400, Billy Yeffry Fernández Rodríguez
escribió:

(ese html...)

(...)

 MI PROBLEMA: sea cual sea la aplicacion q abra con este metodo no logro
 hacer q ocupe todo el ancho de la pantalla, desperdiciando un espacio
 considerable q se dibuja como una zona gris. E probado con muchos
 comandos q sugiere mas tanto para startx como para xinit, incluso con
 aplicaciones como gedit que tienen incrustado un manejador de ventanas
 no puedo ponerla en fullscreen.

Como te comenta Gonzalo, la mayoría de las aplicaciones permiten el 
parámetro -geometry por lo que para una resolución de 1280x1024 sería 
algo así:

startx firefox -geometry 1280x1024+0+0

Pero para el resto de aplicaciones que no admitan ese parámetro entiendo 
que tendrás que pasar a startx el valor del servidor X para que use la 
resolución que quieres (man startx).

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Re: [OT] Consulta tonta

2015-06-14 Thread Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus
El 14 de junio de 2015, 10:33 a. m., Camaleón escribió:
 El Sat, 13 Jun 2015 15:58:37 -0500, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus
 escribió:

 El 10 de junio de 2015, 8:24 a. m., Camaleón escribió:

 (...)

 Multimedia no tanto, mas bien son documentos en pdf, ofimaticos
 (¡puaj!), imágenes y ya. Videos no ni animaciones. Sin embargo no
 conozco nada de CMS/ECM que mencionas. Y de CVS lo que conozco es git.
 Sé que existen otras opciones como tortoise y otra que no recuerdo
 pero la verdad es que me da algo de pereza aprenderlas.

 Un CMS o ECM son sistemas de colaboración y/o gestión documental
 basados en web (de cara al usuario) y detrás lo que hay son las
 herramientas duras con las que nadie quiere tratar pero que todos
 necesitan (bdd, servidores de correo, CVS/Git, etc...).

 Entiendo eso, a lo que iba es si conocías alguno o que opciones
 sugerías.

 (...)

 Tienes para aburrir, pero dependiendo de lo que necesites (más enfocado a
 documentos, gestión de archivos multimedia, redes sociales,
 mensajería...) y de los sistemas que lo integran (tipo de base de datos,
 lenguaje de programación, etc...) te decantarás por uno u otro.

 Wikipedia tiene una lista con algunas opciones:

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Document_collaboration

Gracias, los revisaré

 Destacaría dos: KnowledgeTree (http://www.knowledgetree.com/) y la
 solcuión de eXo (http://www.exoplatform.com/).

Los tendré en cuenta.

Saludos y gracias.


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Re: Why Debian 8.1 has no torrents beyond first 3 DVD ISO images

2015-06-14 Thread arnuld uttre
 On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater 
 amaca...@galactic.demon.co.uk wrote:

 You probably don't need all DVD images - the first three should be enough to 
 build you a fairly complete
 Debian system.

 The other DVDs include all the other packages - 40,000 or so in total - that 
 make up Debian but you may not
 need them all.

Well, I need many packages which normal users don't use, like stumpwm,
ppcre, sbcl, clisp, gcc, mpd, gmpc, feh, theora etc. I have used
Debian Sarge  (and in those days I only had CDs) and I noticed some
package I wanted were only in last few CDs




 If you have reasonably fast network access available to you, you may be able 
 to install using only the netinst CD
 and all other packages will then be downloaded from the 'Net.

I don't have net.





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Re: Resizing partitions on a headless server

2015-06-14 Thread csanyipal
Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org writes:

 csanyi...@gmail.com a écrit :
 
 Finally, I solved the problem by doing the followings:
 # lvresize --size 455.5G /dev/mapper/bubba-storage
 # e2fsck -f /dev/mapper/bubba-storage

 Glad you were lucky.

 Now, I can to use parted to resize my partitions.
 What is my goal?
 
 Filesystem Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/root  9.2G  8.0G  815M  91% /
 devtmpfs   125M 0  125M   0% /dev
 tmpfs  125M  4.0K  125M   1% /dev/shm
 tmpfs  125M  5.6M  120M   5% /run
 tmpfs  5.0M 0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
 tmpfs  125M 0  125M   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
 /dev/mapper/bubba-storage  449G  8.2G  418G   2% /home
 tmpfs   25M 0   25M   0% /run/user/1001
 
 # fdisk -l
 
 Device Boot Start   End   Sectors   Size Id Type
 /dev/sda1  63  19551104  19551042   9.3G 83 Linux
 /dev/sda219551105 974647484 955096380 455.4G 8e Linux LVM
 /dev/sda3   974647485 976768064   2120580 1G 82 Linux swap / Solaris
 
 # lvs
   LV  VGAttr   LSize   Pool Origin Data%  Meta%  Move Log
   Cpy%Sync Convert
 storage bubba -wi-ao 455.40g
 
 # pvs
   PV VGFmt  Attr PSize   PFree
 /dev/sda2  bubba lvm2 a--  455.42g 20.00m

 I'm curious : what's the use of LVM if you have only one LV taking all
 the space in the VG, and plain partitions outside the VG ?

I bought thie headless powerpc server here:
http://www.excitostore.com/

I get the hardware preinstalled with Debian Sarge. The developer knows
why did the partition so.

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Re: Midori

2015-06-14 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
Le Sun, 14 Jun 2015 17:10:13 +,
Benoit B benoit...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Bonjour la liste,
 
 Pourquoi Midori n'est-il plus dans le dépôt stable ?
 Il est toujours possible de télécharger le paquet debian ici
 http://midori-browser.org/download/debian/
 Mais j'hésite à l'installer sur mon système.
 Là je suis en train de le tester après l'avoir installé sur une live
 avec persistance. Tout à l'aire de fonctionner...
 
 Qui a des infos ?
 
 Merci d'avance
 

bonjour,

en attendant le retour de midori, je conseille qupzilla

slt
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Re: Sincronizacion Samsung

2015-06-14 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 13 Jun 2015 12:47:24 -0500, Debia Linux escribió:

 On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 6:27 AM, J.B jbrazuel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Alguno tiene sincronizado un Samsung Galaxy Note3 con Debian u Debian
 
 Yo no lo tengo sincronizado, monte la unidad como MTP, si te sirve acaba
 de ser tema de hace unos dias.
 
 Lo hice con un Galaxy S4.

El hilo:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2015/06/msg00011.html

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Re: Asunto relacionado con 'kernel panic'

2015-06-14 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 13 Jun 2015 09:23:00 -0430, Miguel Matos escribió:

 Saludos a la lista. Quise aprovechar esta ventana para lanzar esta
 duda que me atosiga sin par. En mi laptop tengo instalado Debian Jessie
 con 3 entornos de escritorio: GNOME, LXDE y Openbox (openbox, pero,
 usando la barra de tareas estilo lxde porque es la que se acopla mejor).
 Como sea, el asunto es este: a veces, en GNOME todo se congela, 

¿Sólo se congela en GNOME3?

 excepto el ratón... ¡pero exaspera y creo que se da cuenta!, y al rato,
 ¡KABOM! Me sale una BSOD con un montón de texto que no entiendo,
 sólo reconozco el modelo de mi ordenador y el mensaje kernel panic.

Saca una foto, mejor, y la subes a www.picpaste.com.

 Ahora, esta es mi duda: ¿esto dónde se guarda para compartirlo, por qué
 sucede sólo con GNOME3 y cómo se descifra lo que muestra?

Es curioso, sí... Prueba con una sesión en modo fallback en lugar de 
gnome-shell a ver si sucede lo mismo.

En cuanto al kernel panic quizá lo que se cae es el entorno gráfico, el 
servidor X, intenta acceder mediante ssh al equipo por si te diera 
acceso. Si hay algo en los registros podrás verlo buscando en los logs:

grep -i -e panic -e oops /var/log/*
zgrep -i -e panic -e oops /var/log/*

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Re: INICIO EN DEBIAN PROBLEMA URGENTE

2015-06-14 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 12 Jun 2015 19:39:42 -0300, Osvaldo Dimitroff escribió:

(recuerda desactivar el formato html al enviar mensajes a la lista y no 
escribir con mayúsculas)

 Estimados ante todo gracias por su tiempo. Resulta que soy novato en
 debian. Logre instalar la ultima version estable perfectamente el
 problema surge cuando al inicio me pide los datos de accesos
 configurados en la instalacion, esto es usuario y password. Resulta que
 escribo mi usuario luego mi password y el sistema pero se queda ahi en
 un comando
 
 Ejemplo: INCICIA EL SISTEMA...
 
 me pide los datos de acceso
 
 candela login: aca escribo el dato que en mi caso es familia
 luego me pide la clave password: ingreso tambien este dato
 
 Luego pasa a la siguiente linea:
 
 Linux candela 3.16.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1 (2015-05-24)
 i686 familia@candela: ~$

(...)

Cuando se es novato no se sabe bien con lo que se va a encontrar 
por lo que conviene seguir alguna guía gráfica de instalación para no 
llevarse sorpresas, por ejemplo:

Instalar Debian Jessie, ilustrado (parte 1)
http://www.taringa.net/posts/linux/18241019/Instalar-Debian-Jessie-ilustrado-parte-1.html

Y aún así puede haber sorpresas pero antes convendría saber qué medio 
de instalación (imagen ISO) descargaste.

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Why Debian 8.1 has no torrents beyond first 3 DVD ISO images

2015-06-14 Thread arnuld uttre
Hi All,

I wanted to download all Debian 8.1 DVD images at my friend's place because
I don't have net at home. but all I see are 3 DVD ISO images available on
torrents, where as jigdo has available 13 DVD images:

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.1.0/amd64/bt-dvd/

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.1.0/amd64/jigdo-dvd/

My friend keeps the DVD image torrent (in Deluge) on his computer when he
sleeps and it is downloaded by morning. Kind of hassle-free download on
torrents because his connection keeps on breaking/disconnecting every few
hours all the time.  But I can not find more than 3 DVD images on torrent.
What can I do ?

Thanks
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Re: INICIO EN DEBIAN PROBLEMA URGENTE

2015-06-14 Thread Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena
Con fecha Viernes, 12 de Junio de 2015, 07:39:42 p.m., Osvaldo escribió:
 en debian. Logre  instalar la ultima version estable perfectamente
 el problema surge cuando al inicio me pide los  datos de accesos
 configurados en la instalacion, esto es usuario y  password. Resulta
 que escribo mi usuario luego mi password y el sistema  pero se queda ahi en 
 un comando
 Linux candela 3.16.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1 (2015-05-24) i686
 familia@candela: ~$

Lo que te está mostrando es una terminal en modo texto.
Podés abrir muchas terminales (prueba... con Ctrl+Alt+F1, Ctrl+Alt+F2,
Ctrl+Alt+F3, Ctrl+Alt+F4...)
Seguramente bajaste e instalaste un DEBIAN SIN interfaz gráfica.
¿Que paquete ISO has bajado?

Tu problema se soluciona instalando una interfaz gráfica de las
muchas que tiene LINUX (no es como Win que tiene sólo una)

Podés elegir entre LXDE, FXCE, Gnome2 (pesada), GNOME3 (más pesada),
KDE, OpenBox, Enlightenment, Mate, etc...

Te recomiendo FXCE porque es simple, rápida, estable y tiene muchos
gadget (utilidades adicionales), Gnome3 es muy lindo pero... es una
carrindanga de lenta, OpenBox NO te lo recomiendo porque si eres
novato te costará mucho instalarlo y configurarlo (yo lo uso por ser
MUY rápida pero... cuesta configurarlo).

Para instalar FXCE haz lo siguiente:


Desde la línea de comandos (familia@candela: ~$) escribe lo siguiente:

su (oprimes enter)
(te pide contraseña) escribes contraseña su (oprimes enter)
apt-get install xfce4 su (oprimes enter)
(esperas un ratito a que baje e instale)
apt-get install xfce4-goodies (oprimes enter)
(esperas un ratito a que baje e instale)
REINICIAS.

Ya está...

Puedes instalar más de una interfaz y luego cuando arrancas puedes
elegir cual usar... pero lo mejor para empezar es usar algo SIMPLE,
rápido y estable (por eso te recomiendo XFCE) luego tendrás tiempo
para trabajar con otras cosillas... el mundo de LINUX es MUY amplio
y cada día se aprende algo nuevo.

SUGERENCIA: No escribas los asuntos en mayúsculas.
Tampoco uses la palabra URGENTE para asuntos que realmente no
requieran tal urgencia. Urgentes son los problemas de servidores o
fallos graves en sistemas, un problema como el tuyo... puede esperar.















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Re: Resizing partitions on a headless server

2015-06-14 Thread Pascal Hambourg
csanyi...@gmail.com a écrit :
 Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net writes:
 
 On 14/06/15 09:12 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
 There is no partition to correct. The problem is in the LV bubba/storage
 and its filesystem.

 If you read the original post, it looks like the e2rsize
 failed. Therefor the only problem is the partition table is wrong.

No command mentionned by the OP ever modified the partition table.
Modifying LVM logical volumes and filesystems does not modify the
partition table. They have their own metadata.

 I think now is everything fixed, the partition table also. Am I right?

Hopefully yes. You were lucky this time.
The partition table was never modified.

 How can be sure? After reboot I can login as non root user, I can find
 my ( not so valuable ) data on /home, ..

Well, if fsck -f did not complain and your files are back, you can be
pretty confident.


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Re: Why Debian 8.1 has no torrents beyond first 3 DVD ISO images

2015-06-14 Thread Curt
On 2015-06-14, John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:
 arnuld uttre writes:
 Well, I need many packages which normal users don't use, like stumpwm,
 ppcre, sbcl, clisp, gcc, mpd, gmpc, feh, theora etc. I have used
 Debian Sarge (and in those days I only had CDs) and I noticed some
 package I wanted were only in last few CDs

 You don't need the source packages nor the ones for architectures other
 than your own.

Without having researched the question, is there a simple way
of knowing which dvds contain what (a package list or something)? 


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Re: Resizing partitions on a headless server

2015-06-14 Thread csanyipal
Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net writes:

 On 14/06/15 09:12 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
 csanyi...@gmail.com a écrit :
 Hello,

 on my headless Debian GNU/Linux Jessie server I want to resize
 partitions.
 Why ? The use of LVM should avoid the need to resize partitions (PVs).

 root@b2:~# e2fsck -f /dev/mapper/bubba-storage
 e2fsck 1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014)
 Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
 Pass 2: Checking directory structure
 Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
 Pass 4: Checking reference counts
 Pass 5: Checking group summary information
 Bubba_home: 114439/59703296 files (0.4% non-contiguous), \
 4001648/119386112 blocks

 At this step I think I forgot to run again:
 root@b2:~# resize2fs -p /dev/mapper/bubba-storage 20G

 root@b2:~# lvresize --size 2.1G /dev/mapper/bubba-storage
Rounding size to boundary between physical extents: 2.10 GiB
  WARNING: Reducing active logical volume to 2.10 GiB
THIS MAY DESTROY YOUR DATA (filesystem etc.)
Do you really want to reduce storage? [y/n]: y
  Size of logical volume bubba/storage changed from 455.42 GiB
(116588 extents) to 2.10 GiB (538 extents).
  Logical volume storage successfully resized

 Furthermore, I was wrong when I determined the --size to 2.1G in the
 command abowe, because I wanted to write 20.1G instead.
 The bad news is that you probably screwed the filesystem. LVM provides
 flexibility over plain partitions, but at the cost of complexity and is
 less tolerant to such a mistake.

 With a plain partition, all you would have to do to fix the mistake is
 to extend the reduced partition (not the filesystem) to its original
 size. However, with LVM, if you extend a reduced LV to its original
 size, nothing guarantees that it will use the same physical blocks as
 before. You can try, but it may not restore the filesystem's integrity.
 Run fsck to check the damage.

 Edit : check in /etc/lvm/backup for a metadata backup of the previous
 situation of the VG bubba. Using it to restore the LV is beyond my
 knowledge, but if your data is important and you don't have a backup
 (sounds like an oxymoron), my advice is don't touch anything until you
 find how to restore the LV. Otherwise, just extend the LV and recreate
 the filesystem on it.

 Now what can I do to correct the partitions?
 There is no partition to correct. The problem is in the LV bubba/storage
 and its filesystem.


 If you read the original post, it looks like the e2rsize
 failed. Therefor the only problem is the partition table is wrong.

I think now is everything fixed, the partition table also. Am I right?
How can be sure? After reboot I can login as non root user, I can find
my ( not so valuable ) data on /home, ..

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Re: [OT] Consulta tonta

2015-06-14 Thread Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus
El 14 de junio de 2015, 3:34 a. m., kazabe escribió:
 El día 9 de junio de 2015, 20:40, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus escribió:
 Eso lo entiendo y en aras de la claridad, te comento:

 A) Documentos de texto tanto ofimáticos como de texto plano de ciertos
 documentos y bases de datos, hojas de cálculo, presentaciones, en PDF
 y algunas imágenes.


 Con un pc comun (de preferencia con buena fuente de poder) te montas
 un debian con owncloud y listo.   Te recomiendo en especial owncloud
 por lo facil de manejar para los usuarios (solo deben guardar sus
 archivos en una carpeta) y el versionado de los mismos.  Este tema de
 versiones requerirá que tengas buen espacio en disco, pero en este
 momento cualquier pc te soporta discos de al menos 1 tera.

Entiendo pero no tengo ningún PC común para eso en la actualidad, de
todos modos tenemos que comprar algo. Vamos a evaluar que podriamos
adquirir pensando en las necesidades actuales y en la escalabiliad a
futuro.

 Es posible que con el tiempo necesites escalar la plataforma, pero
 mientras eso sucede, la empresa ira creciendo, y podrán invertir en
 algo mas robusto.  La necesidad crea el órgano.


Exacto, estoy de acuerdo contigo.

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Re: [SPAM] Crea tu blog en un minuto

2015-06-14 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El Fri, 12 Jun 2015 18:15:52 -0300
Fabián Bonetti mama21m...@riseup.net escribió:


Esto no califica como OT
Es SPAM, pudo y duro



 
 
 
 Jardin de MamaLibre: Un lugar donde crear tu blog
 
 Es un lugar multisitio al estilo de `drupal gardens` pero creado con 
 wordpress.
 
 Es para usar tu blog cortido asi de simple. Sin instalar uno, ya que con un 
 registro el sistema te armara tu wordpress base, para que vallas usandolo.
 
 Una ves registrado tu blog en wordpress quedara en 
 http://bloglibre.ml/nickname
 
 Que diferencia tiene de https://wordpress.com/ [preg]
 
 La nación donde esta el servidor lo hace tentador, esta en América dlel Sur, 
 Buenos Aires.
 
 
 Si quieres probar y tener tu blog sin contratar hosting, sin instalar un 
 sitio complicado y pasarte horas aprendiendo a montar uno, esto es ideal para 
 vos.
 
 Esto realmente funciona, tendrás tu sitio web en menos de un minuto.
 
 Podes crear uno aqui  http://bloglibre.ml/wp-signup.php
 
 
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social contract should mandate to warn users of tracking by packages like chromium

2015-06-14 Thread pm190
Hi, the Debian social contract should mandate to warn users of internet 
tracking by debian packages like chromium.

I tried everything and I can't turn off some internet tracking features of 
chromium like gcm which connects to google servers several times per hour.

Anyway, there should be a mandatory warning that this package default 
configuration tracks you in many ways, and an even stronger warning if you 
can't configure it to not track you.

For example, that's what the f-droid project mandates for its free software 
packages.

Regards.



Re: Duda sobre codificacion con dos2unix

2015-06-14 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 13 Jun 2015 13:19:58 -0500, Debia Linux escribió:

 2015-06-13 12:43 GMT-05:00 Debia Linux debianer...@gmail.com:
 Listeros:

 Buenos dias tengan ustedes.

 Les comento que tengo un texto que me dieron y fue creado en un
 software privativo de Windows. Necesitaba pasarlo a linux me parece que
 si estoy en lo correcto es UTF-8.

 La cuestion es que no se que codigo de identificacion ISO esta usando
 el texto que deseo pasar. 

Prueba con file archivo, al menos te dirá qué tipo de archivo es.

 Ya intente con el codigo  iso 1252 pero no es
 el correcto.

 dos2unix -iso 1252 miarchivowindows.txt nuevoarchivolinux.txt
 
 Ya tuve la solucion. Resulta que no lo podia porque prejuzgue que habia
 sido realizado dicho texto en software privativo. Me acaban de avisar
 que fue realizado en windos pero con openoffice y con codificacion UTF-8
 por ello es que me cambiaba los acentos.
 
 Asi que este pequeñisimo inconveniente esta resuelto.

A todo lo que no nos gusta lo llamamos privativo :-P

Para las conversiones entre archivos de distinta codificación también 
está iconv que viene instalado de serie.

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Re: Midori

2015-06-14 Thread Grégory Reinbold

On 06/14/2015 08:46 PM, Bernard Schoenacker wrote:

Le Sun, 14 Jun 2015 17:10:13 +,
Benoit B benoit...@gmail.com a écrit :


Bonjour la liste,

Pourquoi Midori n'est-il plus dans le dépôt stable ?
Il est toujours possible de télécharger le paquet debian ici
http://midori-browser.org/download/debian/
Mais j'hésite à l'installer sur mon système.
Là je suis en train de le tester après l'avoir installé sur une live
avec persistance. Tout à l'aire de fonctionner...

Qui a des infos ?

Merci d'avance


bonjour,

en attendant le retour de midori, je conseille qupzilla

Hey, merci pour le tuyau, je connais pas ce browser ! :)

Vais tester ça

slt
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Re: CUPS set-up for the 0.01%

2015-06-14 Thread briand
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 19:02:34 +0100
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:

 On Sun 14 Jun 2015 at 08:03:59 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
 
  On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 12:35:57 +0100
  Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
  
   The server listens *on* one or more interfaces. Each interface has a
   single network address. 192.168.1.0/24 isn't a single network address. 
  
  ty, i now have access to server.
  
  i have cups-client installed on my client machine.
 
 Then this and its dependencies is all you need on the client. Any cups
 or other printing packages are useless to you if you are using a
 client.conf on the client. Are you? Please post its contents if you are.
 

i am not currently using cups-client,  i'm trying to figure out if i should be.

logically it shouldn't be necessary.

  I think this is what i need in cupsd.conf to access server to actually 
  print.
  
  Location /
Order allow,deny
Allow 192.168.1.0/24
  /Location
 
 Testable, isn't it? I wouldn't alter cupsd.conf on the server from the
 default.

the test is that the client can see the server and printer.

  
  Interesting ...
  
  I thought that I would only need cups-client, but that appears to be
  not true.
  
  if you need the cups server to run to connect from the _client_
  machine, why isn't the cups package required by cups-client ?
 
 cups-client on the client machine doesn't need cupsd on the same
 machine because you are requiring all processing to take place on the
 server. 

that certainly makes sense.


 CUPS will tell you:
 
   /usr/sbin/lpinfo -v
 
 
network lpd
network ipps
network https
network socket
network http
network ipp
network beh
network smb
direct parallel:/dev/lp0
network lpd://BRN001BA9BC9354/BINARY_P1


ok - here's where things get a bit weird.

there is a box for discovered network printers, so cups thinks it sees the 
printer.
however if i select that discovered network printer , it still comes up with 
the connection to lpd:

in the log file i find : Unable to locate printer BRN001BA9BC9354.

so i'm stuck here.

seems like i'm very close though...


Brian


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Alguien a sincronizado kdepim con un samsung core???

2015-06-14 Thread BasaBuru
Aupa:

Me acaban de dar los de movistar un samsung core prime

No soy capaz de encontrar ninguna referencia a de como sincronizar el 
calendario y los contactos de kdepim con el samsung core prime

Si alguien me pasa un link super agradecido



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Re: Asunto relacionado con 'kernel panic'

2015-06-14 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 04:19:12PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 En cuanto al kernel panic quizá lo que se cae es el entorno gráfico,

Eso es *imposible*. En un kernel panic el que se cae es el núcleo, por
definición. Después de un kernel panic no hay ssh que valga.


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Re: Alguien a sincronizado kdepim con un samsung core???

2015-06-14 Thread Debia Linux
2015-06-14 15:20 GMT-05:00 BasaBuru basab...@basatu.org:
 Aupa:

 Me acaban de dar los de movistar un samsung core prime

 No soy capaz de encontrar ninguna referencia a de como sincronizar el
 calendario y los contactos de kdepim con el samsung core prime

No estas siendo claro al sincronizar que con que. Te puedo decir que
Android tiene una opcion para que en un solo archivo, descarges todos
tus contactos. Yo lo he realizado y lo abri con Kontact y todo
maravilloso, aunque tambien me sorprendi de que todos los datos de mis
contactos sin duda estan en manos de los servidores de google en
¿Donde?. no lo se. (a modo de OT)... aun no se como hare para no
volverle a pasar ningun dato de mis contactos a google, tal vez diria
Stallman, ¡Jamas en la vida usar un Smartphone!.

Que yo sepa, tambien se puede exportar el calendar de google con algo
similar a lo que se hace con los contactos. Pero ahi si no puedo
orientarte porque no lo he realizado.

Debianeromx


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enviar datos a bluetooth con gnome-obex-send y ahora con cual?

2015-06-14 Thread Debia Linux
Listeros:

Hasta hace pocos dias, podia yo enviar datos via bluetooth mediante
consola de comandos. Ahora me entero que ya no se puede descargar con
ese nombre, ahora me parece que es una utilidad que viene dentro de
otro grupo de aplicaciones me parece que de bluetooth.

Me interesa usar gnome-obex-send unicamente mediante consola de
comandos y recibir datos de la misma manera (antes no recibia datos,
por tanto no se que aplicacion se usaba) sin tener que instalar
ninguna (GUI) creo que es demasiado pesado comparado con la linea de
comandos.

He leido sobre bluetooth pero todos usan GUI y no me interesa.

¿Alguno podria guiarme sobre esto?.

Gracias de antemano

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Re: CUPS set-up for the 0.01%

2015-06-14 Thread briand
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 21:25:47 +0100
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sunday 14 June 2015 21:14:00 bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
  i am not currently using cups-client, 
 
 No wonder you can't print with CUPS!!  And you blame CUPS.. Sheesh. :-(
 
 Lisi
 
 

I mean the cups-client config file.

which, AFAICT, is not necessary.

i certainly have cup-client installed.

sheesh.


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Re: Problem with Canon FS4000US film scanner and VueScan on Wheezy

2015-06-14 Thread Ric Moore

On 06/14/2015 03:54 AM, Jean-Francois Bosc wrote:


Hello,

I am trying to find some help for using a (rather old) Canon FS4000US film
scanner with VueScan. Here is my problem : I am running Debian Wheezy (32 bits),
and I have been using the scanner for quite a while under previous Debian
versions. Now VueScan doesn't detect the scanner any more, it says No scanner
was found attached to your computer. I suppose the problem appeared when I
upgraded from Squeeze to Wheezy (I'm not 100% sure since I don't use the scanner
very often, but what else could it be ?)


You might check to see if your user is still a member of the scanner 
group. Ric



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Re: Midori

2015-06-14 Thread honeyshell
Désolé pour les yeux :

source : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=787878

Your package midori declares a build dependency on valac.
During a rebuild with this new version, midori failed to build.

Je pense que la raison est simple à comprendre.

Merci à Sylvain pour sa page, je ne la connaissais pas non plus ;)
(Made by Raphaël Hertzog, Jeroen van Wolffelaar, and Stefano
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Re: Midori

2015-06-14 Thread honeyshell
source : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=787878

Your package midori declares a build dependency on valac.
During a rebuild with this new version, midori failed to build.

Je pense que la raison est simple à comprendre.

Merci à Sylvain pour sa page, je ne la connaissais pas non plus ;)
(Made by Raphaël Hertzog, Jeroen van Wolffelaar, and Stefano
Zacchiroli. que du beau monde ;-)   )


Re: CUPS set-up for the 0.01%

2015-06-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 14 June 2015 21:14:00 bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
 i am not currently using cups-client, 

No wonder you can't print with CUPS!!  And you blame CUPS.. Sheesh. :-(

Lisi


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Re: Alguien a sincronizado kdepim con un samsung core???

2015-06-14 Thread Debia Linux
2015-06-14 15:20 GMT-05:00 BasaBuru basab...@basatu.org:
 Aupa:

 Me acaban de dar los de movistar un samsung core prime

 No soy capaz de encontrar ninguna referencia a de como sincronizar el
 calendario y los contactos de kdepim con el samsung core prime

Me disculpo, no lei bien, crei que no decias con que querias sincronizar.


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Re: Re: Contactes amb l'ajuntament de Barcelona?

2015-06-14 Thread Ernest Adrogué
2015-06-14, 13:05 (+0200); Orestes Mas escriu:
 Tinc ja uns quants anys i he viscut uns quants intents d'aquests. Les
 resistències són enormes, i no només dels qui prenen decisions, sinó dels
 propis treballadors de l'administració.

Sí, jo tinc la mateixa impressió que tu.  Crec que el canvi només es
produirà si és de baix cap a dalt, i no de dalt cap a baix.  La gent confón
saber una habilitat amb saber fer anar un programa concret.  Si els hi
canvies el programa es queden completament perduts.


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RE: Why Debian 8.1 has no torrents beyond first 3 DVD ISO images

2015-06-14 Thread Arno Schuring

 From: cu...@free.fr
 Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:12:11 +
 On 2015-06-14, John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:
 arnuld uttre writes:
 Well, I need many packages which normal users don't use, like stumpwm,
 ppcre, sbcl, clisp, gcc, mpd, gmpc, feh, theora etc. I have used
 Debian Sarge (and in those days I only had CDs) and I noticed some
 package I wanted were only in last few CDs

 You don't need the source packages nor the ones for architectures other
 than your own.

 Without having researched the question, is there a simple way
 of knowing which dvds contain what (a package list or something)?

Yes, the list-cd/ and list-dvd/ subdirectories on the cdimage server:

$ wget 
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/list-dvd/debian-8.1.0-amd64-DVD-{1..13}.list.gz
[..]
$ zgrep -E '^(stumpwm|cl-ppcre|sbcl|gcl|mpd|gmpc|feh|libtheora0)_' * | cut -d: 
-f1|sort|uniq
debian-8.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.list.gz
debian-8.1.0-amd64-DVD-2.list.gz
debian-8.1.0-amd64-DVD-3.list.gz
debian-8.1.0-amd64-DVD-5.list.gz
debian-8.1.0-amd64-DVD-6.list.gz


Regards,
Arno

  

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Re: Why Debian 8.1 has no torrents beyond first 3 DVD ISO images

2015-06-14 Thread Bob Proulx
arnuld uttre wrote:
 I wanted to download all Debian 8.1 DVD images at my friend's place because
 I don't have net at home. but all I see are 3 DVD ISO images available on

Have you considered using apt-offline?

  apt-cache show apt-offline
   apt-offline is an Offline APT Package Manager.

   apt-offline can fully update and upgrade an APT based distribution without
   connecting to the network, all of it transparent to APT.

   apt-offline can be used to generate a signature on a machine (with no 
network).
   This signature contains all download information required for the APT 
database
   system. This signature file can be used on another machine connected to the
   internet (which need not be a Debian box and can even be running windows) to
   download the updates.
   The downloaded data will contain all updates in a format understood by APT 
and
   this data can be used by apt-offline to update the non-networked machine.

   apt-offline can also fetch bug reports and make them available offline.

It would take some sneakernet trips back and forth with a portable
storage medium such as a USB storage device or some such but that
would be a possibility.  Can get security updates and so forth that
way.

 torrents, where as jigdo has available 13 DVD images:
 
 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.1.0/amd64/bt-dvd/
 
 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.1.0/amd64/jigdo-dvd/

Yes.  All of the DVDs images are available.  It is only that Debvian
is not hosting them as iso images on their download site.  It is a
problem of mirror site disk space and bandwidth.  Mirror sites do not
have infinite disk space nor infinite bandwidth.  There is a cost to
everything.  At some point there isn't enough space nor bandwidth nor
the associated actual cost of hosting them.  Mirrors would stop
hosting Debian if it grew without bounds.

Therefore compromises must be made.  The very little used images are 
not hosted.  It is very unusual for anyone to need or to use those 
images.  However they are available and you can create them for 
yourself very easily. 

If you desire any or all of the 13 DVD set for amd64 then they are 
available for very easy creation using jigdo-lite.  Here is an
example. 

  # apt-get install jigdo-file 

  $ mkdir jigdo-stuff 
  $ cd jigdo-stuff 
  $ jigdo-lite --noask 
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.1.0/amd64/jigdo-dvd/debian-8.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.jigdo
  ...lots of output and some minutes of time... 
  OK: Checksums match, image is good!   
  real24m14.239s
  user1m23.772s
  sys 1m9.412s

  $ ls -ldog 
  -rw-rw-r-- 1 3994091520 Jun 14 12:38 debian-8.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso
  -rw-rw-r-- 1   3.8G Jun 14 12:38 debian-8.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso

That took me 24 minutes using a fast local mirror on GigE.  Pulling
3.8 Gig off a slower WAN would take considerably longer.

 My friend keeps the DVD image torrent (in Deluge) on his computer when he
 sleeps and it is downloaded by morning. Kind of hassle-free download on
 torrents because his connection keeps on breaking/disconnecting every few
 hours all the time.  But I can not find more than 3 DVD images on torrent.
 What can I do ?

I don't know of any other way than to run jigdo to build the DVD
image.  Therefore your friend would need to be able to run it on their
computer or you would need to to be able to leave a portable machine
such as a laptop with enough disk space.  I don't know if there is a
way to run jigdo on a Windows machine for example.  Temporarily leaving
a laptop there would allow you to have control over the download.

Note that the entirety of the disk space is pretty large.  4G times 13
DVD images is 50 plus Gig of data to download.

If I were heading to an Antartic station where access to the Internet
is a precious thing I would definitely download the entire set.  If I
were using sneakernet to get data across town I would probably try
apt-offline and see if it could be used to download just what was
needed.

Good luck!

Bob




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Re: Why Debian 8.1 has no torrents beyond first 3 DVD ISO images

2015-06-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 09:45:24PM +0530, arnuld uttre wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I wanted to download all Debian 8.1 DVD images at my friend's place because
 I don't have net at home. but all I see are 3 DVD ISO images available on
 torrents, where as jigdo has available 13 DVD images:
 
 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.1.0/amd64/bt-dvd/
 
 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.1.0/amd64/jigdo-dvd/
 
 My friend keeps the DVD image torrent (in Deluge) on his computer when he
 sleeps and it is downloaded by morning. Kind of hassle-free download on
 torrents because his connection keeps on breaking/disconnecting every few
 hours all the time.  But I can not find more than 3 DVD images on torrent.
 What can I do ?
 
 Thanks
 Arnuld
 
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 http://lispmachine.wordpress.com/2010/12/08/extract-of-programming/

You probably don't need all DVD images - the first three should be enough to 
build you a fairly complete
Debian system.

The other DVDs include all the other packages - 40,000 or so in total - that 
make up Debian but you may not
need them all.

To save space, only the first few DVDs are generated and stored now: if you 
_REALLY_ want the others to be
torrented, you will need to find someone to make the images first - using the 
.jigdo fies - and then torrent 
them.

FAQ alert:

If you have reasonably fast network access available to you, you may be able to 
install using only the netinst CD
and all other packages will then be downloaded from the 'Net.

/FAQ alert

All the very best,

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Re: Contactes amb l'ajuntament de Barcelona?

2015-06-14 Thread XaviP
Del vídeo de AZLinux que ha linkat el Joan, destacaria el procés de
transició en tres fases:

1. Firefox - Thunderbird - GIMP - Filezilla - VCL - ...
2. Libreoffice (a Munich van migrar a Openoffice i ara estan fent
migració a Libreoffice)
3. Migració a S.O. lliure.

En les dues primeres fases, l'usuari continua amb windows, però es va
adaptant paulativament al programari lliure. La fase de passar a
Libreoffice, pot tenir la complicació afegida dels diferents formats que
es puguin tenir en arxius històrics. doc - odt, xls - ods, etc...

Un cop la migració del programari s'ha fet i l'usuari se sent còmode
(això pot ser un temps de èncer resistències d'hàbits i potser requereix
formació), la migració de S.O. a nivell d'usuari és trivial.

Salut!


El 14/06/15 a les 13:05, Orestes Mas ha escrit:
 El Dissabte, 13 de juny de 2015, a les 21:21:20, Pedro va escriure:
 Llavors, potser que seguim la discussió a la llista admpub si esteu
 d'acord (em subscric). Sembla lo més apropiat.

 https://llistes.softcatala.org/mailman/listinfo/admpub

 Vinga animeu-vos. Que si algú ha de incentivar això som nosaltres!

 Tinc ja uns quants anys i he viscut uns quants intents d'aquests. Les 
 resistències són enormes, i no només dels qui prenen decisions, sinó dels 
 propis treballadors de l'administració.

 Sóc pessimista, no crec que funcioni, però podeu comptar amb mi pel que 
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Re: systemd equivalent

2015-06-14 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:19:30PM +0100, Brian wrote:

 I think everyone is trying to point out you have encountered 
 the age-old Square Peg in a Round Hole conundrum.

I knew you wouldn't let me down. *plonk*


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Re: systemd equivalent

2015-06-14 Thread Bob Bernstein

On Sun, 14 Jun 2015, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:

No, systemd is not supposed to replace standard 
system utilities.


I have never believed nor claimed that it was thus 
supposed to be anything of the sort. I framed a query 
about it, and various subscribers read into that what 
they wished.


(Also sysctl is a completely unrelated tool to 
configure kernel parameters; the systemd utility is 
systemctl.)


Ah. My bad. Thank you.

However if you configure your ssh tunnel as a 
service that systemd manages, then you can query 
systemd about its state via systemctl or directly 
via systemd's DBus interface:


 Is the service running?
   systemctl is-active my-tunnel

 What is the services main process' PID?
   systemctl -pMainPID show my-tunnel


Thank you.

Note that there is also a per-user instance of 
systemd to allow regular users to use systemd to 
manage their own services if they choose to do so. 
Not everything has to be a system service.


Thank you again. How I love simple facts.

I have suspected all along that my destination was 
very likely configuring my tunnel via systemd, and 
perhaps even building in thereby some stay-alive 
capacity for said tunnel.



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Re: Midori

2015-06-14 Thread Benoit B
Merci à tous pour ces infos !

Je suis en train de tester qupzilla sur ma live

@sylvain :Et pour Midori y a-t-il un risque pour la stabilité de mon
système si j'installe la version 0.5.9 présente sur le site
http://www.midori-browser.org ?
Je ne comprend pas bien le rapport de bug dont tu as donné l'url

Merci d'avance

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Le 14 juin 2015 19:31, Grégory Reinbold greg...@nosheep.fr a écrit :

 On 06/14/2015 08:46 PM, Bernard Schoenacker wrote:

 Le Sun, 14 Jun 2015 17:10:13 +,
 Benoit B benoit...@gmail.com a écrit :

  Bonjour la liste,

 Pourquoi Midori n'est-il plus dans le dépôt stable ?
 Il est toujours possible de télécharger le paquet debian ici
 http://midori-browser.org/download/debian/
 Mais j'hésite à l'installer sur mon système.
 Là je suis en train de le tester après l'avoir installé sur une live
 avec persistance. Tout à l'aire de fonctionner...

 Qui a des infos ?

 Merci d'avance

  bonjour,

 en attendant le retour de midori, je conseille qupzilla

 Hey, merci pour le tuyau, je connais pas ce browser ! :)

 Vais tester ça

 slt
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Re: social contract should mandate to warn users of tracking by packages like chromium

2015-06-14 Thread Riley Baird
 Hi, the Debian social contract should mandate to warn users of internet 
 tracking by debian packages like chromium.

The social contract isn't easy to change, but it isn't normally
necessary to do so.

 I tried everything and I can't turn off some internet tracking features of 
 chromium like gcm which connects to google servers several times per hour.

 Anyway, there should be a mandatory warning that this package default 
 configuration tracks you in many ways, and an even stronger warning if you 
 can't configure it to not track you.

That would be a good idea, provided that there weren't so many privacy
problems that the average user would just get annoyed with all of the
warnings. Another problem would be defining 

For what it's worth, Debian has taken some measures to protect privacy
already. If you look at the below website and search for privacy-breach,
then you can see the list of privacy tags:
https://lintian.debian.org/tags-all.html

Chromium doesn't appear to have been caught by lintian. It can't
hurt to file a bug report requesting a privacy notice, though.


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ThinkPad R51 creeping segmentation faults

2015-06-14 Thread Paul Ausbeck
I recently replaced the hard disk in my ThinkPad R51 with a solid state 
drive and when I did so I installed Debian Wheezy LXDE updated with a 
3.16 kernel as one of the boot options. I really am pleased with how the 
system looks and acts except for a curious instability that occurs 
increasingly frequently as uptime and/or suspend/resume cycles increase.


The symptom is that as time goes on more and more programs will cause a 
segmentation fault while loading. For instance, emacs commonly is the 
first program to go. Then maybe iceweasel. Just today iceweasel wouldn't 
load at all but then following another suspend/resume cycle it now loads 
to a point where it presents a safe mode dialog but then crashes if the 
mouse pointer is moved over the dialog box.


The machine has 2GB of dram, an Intel 2200BG wireless card, and an 
ATI/AMD mobility graphics subsystem. I mention the ram to show that it 
has plenty, the 2200BG as it's driver will occassionally start using 
100% of the CPU and must be reset by unloading and reloading ipw2200, 
and the graphics subsystem as this machine is the only machine that I 
have that contains an ATI/AMD graphics subsystem and the first where 
I've used the open source radeon driver. Also, both the ipw2200 driver 
and radeon driver require binary firmware blobs. One other item of 
interest at least to me, is that I've configured the machine with a 
smaller swap file, 1GB, than the size of physical memory. I'm not 
positive, but this may be the only machine that I've personally 
configured that has a swap file smaller than physical memory.


This is the eighth machine where I've installed Debian Wheezy or Jessie 
and I've not previously encountered a similar problem. I was getting to 
think I understood linux a bit but now I'm thinking I need a whole new 
layer of debug/diagnostic techniques. The reason that I'm posting about 
this is that I'm reasonably convinced that this is not a symptom of 
flaky hardware. I've checked the system memory with various tools and 
there is no obvious problem. Significantly for me, Windows XP and 7 both 
run on this system without any problems, well no  vaguely similar 
problems. And I've been using this machine with Windows XP for more than 
10 years. Just as an aside, Windows 7 is not really an option on this 
machine as there is no available Radeon Mobility graphics driver, making 
videos not really playable.


I'm reasonably certain that the problem is not configuration related. 
I've used 3.2, 3.12 and 3.14 kernels on this box and all behave 
similarly to the 3.16 kernel. I've also used Debian Jessie and though 
segmentation faults are not reported, in the same creeping fashion the 
loader will begin to refuse to load certain programs, and though right 
now I can't remember the exact cryptic error the whole problem feels as 
if it is just a different manifestation of the segfault problem on Wheezy.


I've looked around a bit on the internet for similar problems and come 
up short. In fact, this class of problem seems inherently difficult to 
drive to ground, at least with the knowledge that I currently possess. 
So what I hope is that the Debian mailing list can give me some good 
seeds for new knowledge to acquire. In particular I'd be interested in 
how others might have approached similar situations. I've tried loading 
emacs and iceweasel with gdb to get stack backtraces. With emacs, 
absolutely no symbols. With iceweasel, a few symbols and it appears that 
the crash happens during a memory free operation. I've looked at 
compiling a debug version of emacs but that isn't trivial, still in 
progress. The whole exercise has got me wondering if there are any other 
debug/diagnostic options to try before recompiling various parts of the 
system. One last specific question that sort of embarrasses me to ask, 
is where should segmentation fault messages be logged? I've grepped 
around and there are a few segfault messages from maybe a week ago in 
kern.log.1 and messages.1, but nothing in kern.log or messages.log. 
Perhaps these are still in a memory ring buffer somewhere? Is there some 
sort of tool for viewing user space log messages, I mean other than 
dmesg which doesn't appear to show any user space messages?



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Re: ThinkPad R51 creeping segmentation faults

2015-06-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 02:49:22PM -0700, Paul Ausbeck wrote:
 I recently replaced the hard disk in my ThinkPad R51 with a solid state
 drive and when I did so I installed Debian Wheezy LXDE updated with a 3.16
 kernel as one of the boot options. I really am pleased with how the system
 looks and acts except for a curious instability that occurs increasingly
 frequently as uptime and/or suspend/resume cycles increase.
 

This is a machine from 2004 or so so 10 years old. Is this running on the 
original power supply and any of the original memory?

It may just be that the machine is nearing end of life.

 The symptom is that as time goes on more and more programs will cause a
 segmentation fault while loading. For instance, emacs commonly is the first
 program to go. Then maybe iceweasel. Just today iceweasel wouldn't load at
 all but then following another suspend/resume cycle it now loads to a point
 where it presents a safe mode dialog but then crashes if the mouse pointer
 is moved over the dialog box.
 

Top is good to see what's running at any one time.

 The machine has 2GB of dram, an Intel 2200BG wireless card, and an ATI/AMD
 mobility graphics subsystem. I mention the ram to show that it has plenty,
 the 2200BG as it's driver will occassionally start using 100% of the CPU and
 must be reset by unloading and reloading ipw2200, and the graphics subsystem
 as this machine is the only machine that I have that contains an ATI/AMD
 graphics subsystem and the first where I've used the open source radeon
 driver. Also, both the ipw2200 driver and radeon driver require binary
 firmware blobs. One other item of interest at least to me, is that I've
 configured the machine with a smaller swap file, 1GB, than the size of
 physical memory. I'm not positive, but this may be the only machine that
 I've personally configured that has a swap file smaller than physical
 memory.
 

2G and 1G swap may be a touch tight for wome programs - stuff has got bigger 
over the last 10 years.  I have a netbook with that sort of memory - but a 
dying RTC
- and it struggles with load.

 This is the eighth machine where I've installed Debian Wheezy or Jessie and
 I've not previously encountered a similar problem. I was getting to think I
 understood linux a bit but now I'm thinking I need a whole new layer of
 debug/diagnostic techniques. The reason that I'm posting about this is that
 I'm reasonably convinced that this is not a symptom of flaky hardware. I've
 checked the system memory with various tools and there is no obvious
 problem. Significantly for me, Windows XP and 7 both run on this system
 without any problems, well no  vaguely similar problems. And I've been using
 this machine with Windows XP for more than 10 years. Just as an aside,
 Windows 7 is not really an option on this machine as there is no available
 Radeon Mobility graphics driver, making videos not really playable.
 
 I'm reasonably certain that the problem is not configuration related. I've
 used 3.2, 3.12 and 3.14 kernels on this box and all behave similarly to the
 3.16 kernel. I've also used Debian Jessie and though segmentation faults are
 not reported, in the same creeping fashion the loader will begin to refuse
 to load certain programs, and though right now I can't remember the exact
 cryptic error the whole problem feels as if it is just a different
 manifestation of the segfault problem on Wheezy.
 

Memtest run for a significant period might help to flush out problems.

 I've looked around a bit on the internet for similar problems and come up
 short. In fact, this class of problem seems inherently difficult to drive to
 ground, at least with the knowledge that I currently possess. So what I hope
 is that the Debian mailing list can give me some good seeds for new
 knowledge to acquire. In particular I'd be interested in how others might
 have approached similar situations. I've tried loading emacs and iceweasel
 with gdb to get stack backtraces. With emacs, absolutely no symbols. With
 iceweasel, a few symbols and it appears that the crash happens during a
 memory free operation. I've looked at compiling a debug version of emacs but
 that isn't trivial, still in progress. The whole exercise has got me
 wondering if there are any other debug/diagnostic options to try before
 recompiling various parts of the system. One last specific question that
 sort of embarrasses me to ask, is where should segmentation fault messages
 be logged? I've grepped around and there are a few segfault messages from
 maybe a week ago in kern.log.1 and messages.1, but nothing in kern.log or
 messages.log. Perhaps these are still in a memory ring buffer somewhere? Is
 there some sort of tool for viewing user space log messages, I mean other
 than dmesg which doesn't appear to show any user space messages?
 
 

All the best

AndyC

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Re: Duda sobre codificacion con dos2unix

2015-06-14 Thread Gerardo Diez García
El 14/06/15 22:47, Debia Linux escribió:
  Para las conversiones entre archivos de distinta codificación también
  está iconv que viene instalado de serie.
 Pues intente realizarlo con inconv pero por lo menos en el debian
 jessi que instale, pues no viene.
 
 bash: inconv: no se encontró la orden

Fíjate que te pone iconv != inconv (que es distinto a lo que tú pones)

La diferencia entre cómo lo muestra nano y kate se deberá a la
codificación que empleen ellos. Mira qué codificación usa kate y cambia
nano a esta.

Por cierto, no acabo de entender esto de privativo y codificaciones. Las
codificaciones son independientes de lo privativo que sea tu software.
Puedes codificar en UTF-8 o latin-15 bien en LibreOffice, o con Microsoft.


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Re: Duda sobre codificacion con dos2unix

2015-06-14 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 03:47:20PM -0500, Debia Linux wrote:
 2015-06-14 11:41 GMT-05:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
  Para las conversiones entre archivos de distinta codificación también
  está iconv que viene instalado de serie.
 
 Pues intente realizarlo con inconv pero por lo menos en el debian
 jessi que instale, pues no viene.
 
 bash: inconv: no se encontró la orden

Por las barbas de Neptuno, lee bien el mensaje de Camaleón. Es iconv.

Es posible que lo esciribieras mal, pero es casi imposible que
escribiéndolo bien no lo tuvieras instalado:

$ which iconv
/usr/bin/iconv
$ dpkg -S /usr/bin/iconv
libc-bin: /usr/bin/iconv
$ dpkg -s libc-bin | grep Essential
Essential: yes


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Re: social contract should mandate to warn users of tracking by packages like chromium

2015-06-14 Thread Bob Bernstein

On Sun, 14 Jun 2015, Sven Arvidsson wrote:


On Sun, 2015-06-14 at 17:47 +0200, pm...@laposte.net wrote:



debian-user is probably not the right place for this.


The linux-elitists list is very involved with these 
issues, and the list archives are open to public 
examination:


http://zgp.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-elitists

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HP printer not added

2015-06-14 Thread Maureen L Thomas
I upgraded Wheezy to the latest version 7.8.0.  Actually I had to 
reinstall it since the keyboard and mouse quite working and I was unable 
to log in even in recovery.  Anyway, I got it back up and running and I 
tried to use my printer.  I have a cheapy HP 1000 and it worked fine before.


When I try to add it the software comes up with the right model and then 
when I try to add it it gives the message that it cannot add it.  I have 
tried it several times and checked that the software for HP is installed 
and it is there.  Is there a problem with cups?  or is it me.


Thanks
Maureen


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