Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

[Stuart Longland]

On 14/10/15 13:23, John Hasler wrote:
> Lie.  Tell them you're running Windows 95.

"Ohh sorry, we only support Windows 7 or 8"

-- 
Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter, VK4MSL)

I haven't lost my mind...
  ...it's backed up on a tape somewhere.



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Re: Cas désespéré : carte son muette mais son sur vu-mètre de pulseaudio

[jeanbaptiste.g...@gmail.com]

Merci pour l'intérêt à mon problème,

Visiblement je suis dans le group "audio". Il y a deux utilisateurs
dans le groupe : pulse et mon utilisateur.

Le player de france inter ne me donne aucun résultat concluant...
merci bien, d'autres pistes que j'aurai pu louper ?


> Le 13 octobre 2015 18:33, Bernard Schoenacker  > a écrit :
>
>> Le Tue, 13 Oct 2015 18:08:13 +0200,
>> "jeanbaptiste.g...@gmail.com"  a écrit :
>>
>> > Bonjour à tous,
>> >
>> > Je n'ai pas vraiment pour habitude de poster des questions sur la
>> > liste, même si je la lis souvent et si je peux y répondre, parfois
>> > j'essaie. Mais là, je suis dans une impasse et je dois reconnaître
>> > que Google ne m'a pas aidé.
>> >
>> > J'ai un tout nouveau laptop dell Inspiron 5559 (très très content), il
>> > fonctionnait sous Windows 10, et lors du premier démarrage j'avais un
>> > joli son. Etant pas fan du tout de la fenêtre, j'ai tout viré et mis
>> > une Debian.
>> >
>> > Tout se passe bien, mais ... aucun son.
>> >
>> > Je précise, si je lis un son avec rythmbox ou dans mon navigateur, le
>> > vu-mètre bouge dans pavucontrol, mais rien ne sort.
>> >
>> > Autre fait étrange, dans pavucontrol / Périphérique de sortie / Port,
>> > j'ai :
>> >  - Speakers
>> >  - Sortie analogique
>> >  - Casque analogique (Unplugged)
>> >
>> > Si je branche un casque, la dernière passe en plugged in, si je
>> > débranche cela revient sur speaker. ça me parait super top, sauf que
>> > je n'ai aucun son quelque soit le "port" utilisé.
>> >
>> > Petite précision, le périphérique d'entrée semble fonctionner, si je
>> > parle, le vu-mètre réagit bien à ma voix.
>> >
>> > Enfin aucun bouton "sourdine" n'est actif, les volumes sont à plus de
>> > 40% (testé aussi à 100% sans effet).
>> >
>> >
>> > Via alsa :
>> >  - alsamixer fonctionne bien et "détecte" les différentes cartes, je
>> > peux paramètrer les "volumes" aucun n'est à MM (muet).
>> >  - lancement de la lecture avec aplay sur différents device en
>> > sortie :
>> >- pour pulse, ça ne sort aucun son, mais la commande s'exécute
>> > correctement
>> >- pour sysdefault, la commande "freeze" au Ctrl+c j'obtiens :
>> > $ aplay -D sysdefault:CARD=PCH /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
>> > Lecture WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16 bit
>> > Little Endian, Fréquence 48000 Hz, Mono
>> > ^CInterrompu par le signal Interrompre...
>> > aplay: pcm_write:1939: erreur en écriture: Appel système interrompu
>> >
>> > Franchement et sincèrement je suis un peu dépité, et si une âme
>> > charitable pouvait m'aider Merci d'avance.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Voici quelques éléments techniques si vous pouviez m'orienter sur les
>> > opérations possibles pour résoudre ce problème.
>> > $ aplay -l
>> >  Liste des Périphériques Matériels PLAYBACK 
>> > carte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], périphérique 0: ALC3234 Analog [ALC3234
>> > Analog]
>> >   Sous-périphériques: 1/1
>> >   Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0
>> > carte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], périphérique 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
>> >   Sous-périphériques: 1/1
>> >   Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0
>> >
>> > $ lspci | grep -i audio
>> > 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Device 9d70 (rev 21)
>> >
>> > $ lsmod | grep snd
>> > snd_hda_codec_hdmi 45118  1
>> > snd_hda_codec_realtek67127  1
>> > snd_hda_codec_generic63181  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
>> > snd_hda_intel  26327  3
>> > snd_hda_controller 26646  1 snd_hda_intel
>> > snd_hda_codec 104463  5
>> >
>> snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
>> > snd_hwdep  13148  1 snd_hda_codec
>> > snd_pcm88662  4
>> > snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
>> > snd_timer  26614  1 snd_pcm
>> > snd65244  14
>> >
>> snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_pcm,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel
>> > soundcore  13026  2 snd,snd_hda_codec
>> >
>> > $ lshw
>> >   *-multimedia
>> >  description: Audio device
>> >  produit: Intel Corporation
>> >  fabriquant: Intel Corporation
>> >  identifiant matériel: 1f.3
>> >  information bus: pci@:00:1f.3
>> >  version: 21
>> >  bits: 64 bits
>> >  horloge: 33MHz
>> >  fonctionnalités: pm msi bus_master cap_list
>> >  configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=32
>> >  ressources: irq:141 mémoire:d122-d1223fff
>> > mémoire:d120-d120
>> > *-serial NON-RÉCLAMÉ
>> >
>> > $ aplay -L
>> > default
>> > Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server
>> > null
>> > Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
>> > pulse
>> > PulseAudio Sound Server
>> > sysdefault:CARD=PCH
>> > HDA Intel PCH, 

Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

[Stuart Longland]

On 14/10/15 12:51, Stephen Powell wrote:
> Their level 1 help desk isn't much help anyway, if you're a Linux user.
> The last time I called their level 1 help desk for technical support, the
> conversation went something like this:

Yep, familiar story.  Some can't get it through their thick heads that
you want support for the *internet connection* and not the computer
connected to it.  If it isn't in their script, they don't know anything
about it and don't want to know.

> And that was that.  They'll gladly take the money of a Linux user.
> But if you have problems, you're on your own.  That was a few years ago.
> Maybe it's better now.

True, as I said, this isn't L1 helpdesk material, I gave details of a
WHOIS look-up that gave an email address and telephone number you could
contact.

You'll probably note this is a different email address to your regular
helpdesk contact details, and for good reason.  It is for a totally
different audience: a technical one who know how to work the `whois`
tool, know what an IP address is, and know that a serial port isn't a
place for sailors to eat breakfast.

Forward them the bounce emails you've been getting, then the ball is in
their court.  I do know what it is like to deal with a clueless
helpdesk, spent many hours on the phone with a few here.

-- 
Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter, VK4MSL)

I haven't lost my mind...
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Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

[Stephen Powell]

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:22:34 -0400 (EDT), Andrew McGlashan wrote:
> 
> On 13/10/2015 7:15 PM, Jochen Spieker wrote:
>> Stuart Longland: I had a similar case on my self-administered mail
>> host. A friend of mine has an account there and random hosts from
>> all over the world used his credentials to send legitimately
>> looking spam. We never found out how this happened but changing the
>> password was enough to make it stop.
> 
> Odds on it was open WiFi somewhere, people trust public WiFi ... I
> cannot understand why.  It is patently stupid [or ignorant at best] to
> use public [or otherwise open] WiFi -- if you don't run it yourself or
> you totally trust the person whom is running it, then leave it alone.

That may have been the case for Stuart's friend, but it is not the case
with me.  I use only wired ethernet.

-- 
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Re: print .tex or .dvi or .ps from Windows

[Joseph Loo]

On 10/13/2015 10:34 AM, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
> On Tue, October 13, 2015 7:26 am, Joseph Loo wrote:
>> have you tried installing
>> ghostscript on your windows machine? It will convert ps and possibly pdf to
>> pcl or some other printers they have drivers for.
> 
> Ghostscript is one of the first solutions which occurred to me.  I found a
> HOWTO, but it was too complex to give to my associate to follow.
> 
> And I found an article written about ten years ago which discussed the
> problem of getting high-quality output when converting Postscript; much
> depends upon the fonts used (scalable versus bit-mapped).  The discussion
> was a bit deep, and, all things considered, it appeared to me that PDF
> might be a better solution for my associate.  Also, most people know how
> to read a PDF document, but may have difficulty sending a Postscript
> document to the virtual Ghostscript printer; I myself am not sure how it
> is done in Windows.
> 
> Russ
> 
What you need is to down load ghostview at the same time. Use this gui
application to open the ps file. Have the program print the file. It can
use the default window drivers to print. I use to do this a lot but to
tell you the truth, it has been many years since getting it.

The ghostscrpt program will download 23 basic fonts for the different
printers. If you are using word, make sure the fonts embedded in the ps
files. You can print many different files with the full accuracy of the
ps file.

-- 
Joseph Loo
j...@acm.org

Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

[Stephen Powell]

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 22:09:53 -0400 (EDT), Stuart Longland wrote:
> 
> This isn't level 1 helpdesk material, you'll actually need a technical
> contact there.

Their level 1 help desk isn't much help anyway, if you're a Linux user.
The last time I called their level 1 help desk for technical support, the
conversation went something like this:

Me:   I'm having an internet connectivity problem.  I can't 
Them: What release of Windows are you running?
Me:   I don't run Windows; I run Linux.
Them: I'm sorry, sir, we don't support Linux.
Me:   This is not a Linux problem.  This is an internet connectivity problem.
  I can't ...
Them: I'm sorry, sir, we don't support Linux.  Is there anything else we
  can help you with today, sir?
Me:   No, I don't think so.

And that was that.  They'll gladly take the money of a Linux user.
But if you have problems, you're on your own.  That was a few years ago.
Maybe it's better now.

-- 
  .''`. Stephen Powell
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Re: Please tipps for Desktop ( gnome, kde, xfce, etc. ) Debian 8 jessie and some minor issues ( scanning solved)

[Peter Berlau]

Hi Petter,


thanks for tipp! It now works.

Printer: HP Officejet 7500a driver hp-officejet_7500_e910.ppd

1. start hp-setup   
2. connect via usb
3. wait(!) until system has automatically installed printers
4. disconnect usb cable
5. use the 
   Network/Ethernet/Wireless network (direct connection or JetDirect  ) 
6. give ip-address
7. type wifi-password in   

Printing and scanning works fine...
Other "wireless" option printer works, scanner fails...

Best Regards, Peter


Am Sonntag, den 11.10.2015, 09:19 +0200 schrieb Petter Adsen:
> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 15:31:11 +0200
> Peter Berlau  wrote:
> 
> > WIFI HP Officejet 7500   driver hp-officejet_7500_e910
> > prints fine, but i can not scan...   xscanimage shows " wrong argument" 
> > I did not know what this mean or
> > what i should do...
> 
> Take a look here, there are some good suggestions on how to get
> scanning from HP devices working:
> 
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sane#For_HP_hardware
> 
> According to the following page, scanning should work:
> 
> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/officejet/officejet_7500_e910.html
> 
> Petter
> 

Re: Isn't this a security compromise?

[Andrew McGlashan]

On 14/10/2015 3:37 PM, Himanshu Shekhar wrote:
> I searched today about what to do if one forgets his/her linux password.
> The following links described the process:
> https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Debian_reset_root_password
> http://xmodulo.com/how-to-reset-root-password-in-debian-ubuntu.html

Almost every computer that isn't fully encrypted is toast if someone has
their grubby little hands on it.  ;-)

> These tutorials assume that a person has the possession of his/her
> machine which is true for non-mobile devices. But how can one make sure
> that the security of laptop/tablet having any distro of linux is not
> compromised?

Simple, use full disk encryption with a very good pass phrase and/or key
files.

A little more work to setup, but it is worth it, particularly if the
computer is one that travels with you out and about.

Kind Regards
AndrewM

ALSA mystery

[Charles Kroeger]

I have recently had to replace my old Nvidia graphics card so I got a:

GeForce GT730

soon as I did this and a few kernel upgrades later (currently)

Linux 4.2.0-1-amd64

my sound card listed in lspci:

Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CMI8788 [Oxygen HD Audio]

(that's the driver from my Xonar D1 sound card)

was replaced with these two entries in the alsa mixer:

IEC958 and IEC958 1

these two are not muted (green speakers) and IEC958 1 is the only one that 
works in
the sense it can be muted and un-muted ALSA Mixer keyboard command but there's 
no
keyboard volume slider control (up down) and no volume shown in IEC958 1

here's some info:

/proc/asound/cards

 0 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
  HDA NVidia at 0xfbdfc000 irq 16

/etc/asound.conf

pcm.!default {
 type plug
 slave.pcm {
 type hw
 HDMI 0
 device 3
 }
}

(a script I found online and modified card 0 for HDMI 0)


# service alsa-utils start
Failed to start alsa-utils.service: Unit alsa-utils.service is masked.

don't know what this means

# alsactl init
alsactl: sysfs_init:48: sysfs path '/sys' is invalid

Found hardware: "HDA-Intel" "Nvidia GPU 51 HDMI/DP"
"HDA:10de0051,196e1119,00100100" "0x196e" "0x1119"
Hardware is initialized using a generic method

not sure about this either

# aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
  Subdevices: 0/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

The mystery:

If I open the VLC media player and select the following audio device:

 HDA Nvidia HDMI 1 HDMI Audio Output

among the list of 'available' audio devices I get sound from my GeForce GT730
using an HDMI cable connected to the back of a Sony TV. (my only HDMI input
monitor) So there's sound in VLC and that's good but no sound from the Spotify
client or web browsers.

why do you think there's no volume available in the operating device (IEC958 1)
in the ALSA Mixer? Normally the keyboard command (up down keys) would raise
or lower these sliders to indicate volume. This detail might indicate why 
there's
no sound in the Spotify client or web browsers, but if that's so why is there 
sound
in VLC?

although I am getting sound from the Audio side of my GeForce GT730 GPU why do
you think there is incomplete utilization of the options available in the ALSA
Mixer?

The VLC player lists  the contents of #aplay -L  for all audio devices found, 
where
in ALSA can I list this one that works, because I thought it was already listed
in /etc/asound.conf  (card 0 device 3) this corresponds to the listing in 
#aplay -l
(HDMI 0 device 3)

-- 
CK



 

Re: Isn't this a security compromise?

[Peter Ludikovsky]

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Hi,

As a general rule: If someone with malicious intent has had access to
your box it ain't yours anymore.

But there are some things you can do in order to keep all but the most
determined attackers out:
* Set a boot password, either in BIOS or (U)EFI
* Set another boot password in GRUB2
* Encrypt your disk with LUKS and yet another password

In the end it's your decision where on the line between security and
comfort you want your box.

Regards,
/peter

Am 14.10.2015 um 06:37 schrieb Himanshu Shekhar:
> I searched today about what to do if one forgets his/her linux
> password. The following links described the process: 
> https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Debian_reset_root_password 
> http://xmodulo.com/how-to-reset-root-password-in-debian-ubuntu.html
>
>  These tutorials assume that a person has the possession of
> his/her machine which is true for non-mobile devices. But how can
> one make sure that the security of laptop/tablet having any distro
> of linux is not compromised?
> 
> -- Himanshu Shekhar IIIT-Allahabad IRM2015006
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Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

[Stuart Longland]

On 14/10/15 11:53, Stephen Powell wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 04:15:21 -0400 (EDT), Jochen Spieker wrote:
>>
>> Stuart Longland:
>>> On 13/10/15 09:58, Stephen Powell wrote:

 Unfortunately, I don't.  Attached below is one of the mail delivery
 failure notices, which includes the headers of the original message.
 But I don't understand what it all means.
>> …
 Authentication-Results:  smtp02.wow.cmh.synacor.com 
 smtp.user=thecoughingcanary; auth=pass (LOGIN)

>>> Not sure about this one.
>>
>> It looks like the mail was delivered directly through
>> smtp02.wow.cmh.synacor.com by a user who successfully authenticated
>> using the username thecoughingcanary.
>>
>> @Stephen: is that you?
> 
> No.  My id on this mail server is "zlinuxman".  I have no idea who
> "thecoughingcanary" is.  Nor do I understand why the SMTP server would
> allow "thecoughingcanary" to send out e-mails in my name, unless
> "thecoughingcanary" is an administrator account.

This is making a lot more sense now.  So 'wowway.com' is your ISPs
server, and 'thecoughingcanary' is another customer of theirs.  Likely a
compromised one.  Your ISP needs to know about this.

Why did it allow the email to be relayed?  Well, the credentials were
correct, that's all that was needed.  (Yes, SMTP is that basic.)

You'd probably find you can send email from *any* email address you
choose, provided that the email address domain permits that server to
send emails from that domain.

(e.g. my domain has SPF records that only permit a small handful of
servers to send emails with a 'longlandclan.id.au' domain.  Anyone else
will trigger a "soft-failure".)

This isn't level 1 helpdesk material, you'll actually need a technical
contact there.

> Registrant Name: WIDEOPENWEST LLC
> Registrant Organization: WIDEOPENWEST LLC
> Registrant Street: 1323 Bond St.
> Registrant City: Naperville
> Registrant State/Province: IL
> Registrant Postal Code: 60563
> Registrant Country: US
> Registrant Phone: +1.6305363161
> Registrant Phone Ext: 
> Registrant Fax: +1.6305363108
> Registrant Fax Ext: 
> Registrant Email: unixadm...@wideopenwest.com

My first point of call would be that 'unixadm...@wideopenwest.com' as it
now appears you're seeing the bounce traffic from another customer's
compromised host.  I'd forward them a sample of the bounce traffic.
-- 
Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter, VK4MSL)

I haven't lost my mind...
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Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

[Andrew McGlashan]

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Hi,

On 14/10/2015 12:53 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:
> No.  My id on this mail server is "zlinuxman".  I have no idea who 
> "thecoughingcanary" is.  Nor do I understand why the SMTP server
> would allow "thecoughingcanary" to send out e-mails in my name,
> unless "thecoughingcanary" is an administrator account.

Perhaps this business has an account on the mail server and they have
a configuration problem.

http://coughingcanary.com/

>> Who runs this mail service?
> 
> Wide Open West, or "Wow!" as they market themselves.
> 
> http://wowway.net/

They /may/ also use this ISP.

Also, a cable Internet connection shares a network segment with a
bunch of people potentially.  So, perhaps, just perhaps, they are on
your segment to get the creds.  More likely they are using their own
creds if the business has their own account with your ISP.

> It's basically a cable TV company.  I have a bundle of cable,
> internet, and phone service from them.  They provide free e-mail
> and a free web-hosting service to all who subscribe to their
> internet service. My connectivity is through a cable modem which
> they provide. I have my own wired ethernet router connected to it,
> and my computers connect to that.

Being a "cable TV company" ... perhaps, again perhaps, they haven't
got things nice and secure themselves.

Kind Regards
AndrewM
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Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

[Andrew McGlashan]

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Hi,

On 14/10/2015 1:09 PM, Stuart Longland wrote:
>> No.  My id on this mail server is "zlinuxman".  I have no idea
>> who "thecoughingcanary" is.  Nor do I understand why the SMTP
>> server would allow "thecoughingcanary" to send out e-mails in my
>> name, unless "thecoughingcanary" is an administrator account.

Yes, that can be a serious problem; any ONE user can compromise others.

> This is making a lot more sense now.  So 'wowway.com' is your ISPs 
> server, and 'thecoughingcanary' is another customer of theirs.
> Likely a compromised one.  Your ISP needs to know about this.

Yep.

> Why did it allow the email to be relayed?  Well, the credentials
> were correct, that's all that was needed.  (Yes, SMTP is that
> basic.)

Right.

> You'd probably find you can send email from *any* email address
> you choose, provided that the email address domain permits that
> server to send emails from that domain.
> 
> (e.g. my domain has SPF records that only permit a small handful
> of servers to send emails with a 'longlandclan.id.au' domain.
> Anyone else will trigger a "soft-failure".)

SPF is only good if the receiving server does proper checks and you
don't have a soft fail in your setup.  Too many servers don't seem to
care about SPF failing, which is why back scatter is [or was] a much
greater problem that it should ever have been.

A.
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Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

[John Hasler]

Stephen Powell writes:
> And that was that.  They'll gladly take the money of a Linux user.
> But if you have problems, you're on your own.

Lie.  Tell them you're running Windows 95.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

Re: gnome mouse configuration

[Peter Berlau]

Hi,
I know the option in the 'control center', but different from gnome 
i could define the behavior for each single mouse, tablet individual and
persistant..
I could not find this option or, maybe, it does not exist.  Not bad at
all.

Best Regards, Peter
 

Am Sonntag, den 11.10.2015, 20:47 +0300 schrieb moxalt:
> Yes, you can. Simply plug in the mouse in question, go to the mouse and
> touchpad settings from the control centre, and adjust the settings 
> accordingly.
> It should just work (though I am not sure whether the settings persist over
> repeated removals and reconnections).
> 

Pinjaman luar daerah

[yhenie maniiez]

Apakah boleh pinjaman di luar kota sedangkan saya di kota samarinda

systemd alternative for Jessie?

[tom arnall]

I am running Wheezy and notice that the boot options include but
aren't limited to systemd. Is it possible to have this arrangement
with Jessie?

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

[Ric Moore]

On 10/13/2015 11:20 PM, tom arnall wrote:

I am running Wheezy and notice that the boot options include but
aren't limited to systemd. Is it possible to have this arrangement
with Jessie?


No. :) Ric

Re: Cas désespéré : carte son muette mais son sur vu-mètre de pulseaudio

[jeanbaptiste.g...@gmail.com]

Ah là j'ai un truc qui me chiffonne en effet, dans l'onglet configuration
je n'ai que
Audio Interne configuré en "Duplex stéréo analogique" les autres ne me
paraissent pas concluant, mais semble permettre le controle HDMI :
 - Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output (unplugged)
 - Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output + Stereo analogique input
 - Digital Surround 5.1 (HDMI) Output (unplugged)
 - Digital Surround 5.1 (HDMI) Output + Stéréo analogique input
 - Stéréo analogique input
 - Éteint

hormis le fait que je n'ai pas deux items, il me semble que la
configuration parait correcte :/

Le 13 octobre 2015 19:13, Christophe  a écrit :

> Hello,
>
> Le 13/10/2015 18:08, jeanbaptiste.g...@gmail.com a écrit :
>
> Voici quelques éléments techniques si vous pouviez m'orienter sur les
>> opérations possibles pour résoudre ce problème.
>> $ aplay -l
>>  Liste des Périphériques Matériels PLAYBACK 
>> carte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], périphérique 0: ALC3234 Analog [ALC3234
>> Analog]
>>Sous-périphériques: 1/1
>>Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0
>> carte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], périphérique 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
>>Sous-périphériques: 1/1
>>Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0
>>
>> snd_hda_codec_hdmi 45118  1
>>
>
> Est-ce que à tout hasard, le son ne sortirait pas par la sortie HDMI ?
>
> Ma configuration n'est pas tout à fait similaire , mais pour ma part, en
> utilisant "pavucontrol", et l'onglet "Configuration", j'ai deux items :
> - HDA NVidia (configuré sur Eteint)
> - Audio Interne (configuré en "Duplex stéréo analogique").
>
> De mémoire les deux n'ont jamais fonctionné en même temps.
>
> En espérant que ça aide.
>
> Christophe.
>
>

Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

[Stephen Powell]

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 18:57:58 -0400 (EDT), Brian  wrote:
> 
> The comment was a general one and directed at all our readers. However,
> earlier you said "Someone discovered my password somehow". You have
> just demolished that guess as having no basis as a likely cause.

Likely, no, but still possible.  For example, when I update my web
pages, I use my ISP's FTP server.  Suppose someone else on my ISP's subnet
has a network sniffer in promiscuous mode.  The FTP server uses ordinary
unencrypted FTP.  The userid and password are sent in clear text.  I wish
they had an FTPS server, but the last time I checked, they didn't.  I use
e-mail solely through a web-based e-mail client.  When I login, I don't
know if the password is sent in clear text over the network or not.

That being said, if my password was obtained in this manner, I don't have
much of a defense against it.  If I change my password, they can get the
new one the same way as they got the old one.

Another possibility is a malicious web site that I may have unknowingly
visited that managed to find a password in memory, a cookie, etc.  So
despite all the precautions that I have taken, it is still possible for
a password to be "discovered".

Having said that, it looks like someone else's credentials may have been
used, based on some other posts to this thread.  But I am not an expert
in these matters.  That's why I asked for help.

-- 
  .''`. Stephen Powell
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 `. `'`
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Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

[Adrian O'Dell]

On 10/13/2015 09:51 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 22:09:53 -0400 (EDT), Stuart Longland wrote:

This isn't level 1 helpdesk material, you'll actually need a technical
contact there.

Their level 1 help desk isn't much help anyway, if you're a Linux user.
The last time I called their level 1 help desk for technical support, the
conversation went something like this:

Me:   I'm having an internet connectivity problem.  I can't 
Them: What release of Windows are you running?
Me:   I don't run Windows; I run Linux.
Them: I'm sorry, sir, we don't support Linux.
Me:   This is not a Linux problem.  This is an internet connectivity problem.
   I can't ...
Them: I'm sorry, sir, we don't support Linux.  Is there anything else we
   can help you with today, sir?
Me:   No, I don't think so.

And that was that.  They'll gladly take the money of a Linux user.
But if you have problems, you're on your own.  That was a few years ago.
Maybe it's better now.

Not likely any better now. You should just lie to them about what you're 
using.

Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

[Andrew McGlashan]

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Of course ftp, clear text passwords, is also a problem; if it was
this, then every time you update files via ftp, can you then
immediately change your password when done?  Mute point if they are
using their own credentials to send mail and not your creds.

A.
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Isn't this a security compromise?

[Himanshu Shekhar]

I searched today about what to do if one forgets his/her linux password.
The following links described the process:
https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Debian_reset_root_password
http://xmodulo.com/how-to-reset-root-password-in-debian-ubuntu.html

These tutorials assume that a person has the possession of his/her machine
which is true for non-mobile devices. But how can one make sure that the
security of laptop/tablet having any distro of linux is not compromised?

-- 
Himanshu Shekhar
IIIT-Allahabad
IRM2015006

Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 10/12/2015 04:58 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:53:05 -0400 (EDT), Stuart Longland wrote:


I'd check the backscatter case, as this requires no skill on the part of
the attacker and is the most likely case.
...
It's worth knowing how to read the headers of emails in this
circumstance as it can give you vital information for knowing what is
going on.


Unfortunately, I don't.  Attached below is one of the mail delivery
failure notices, which includes the headers of the original message.
But I don't understand what it all means.  Perhaps you or someone else
out there can make some sense of it and advise me accordingly.
Remember, I never sent the original e-mail.  I just got the delivery
failure notice.



X-MSMail-Priority: Normal



X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1081 <



X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1081



Looks like it was mailed from MS Windows.  Maybe mailed from a Windows 
OS with a virus.  Do you run Windows too?

--
Jimmy Johnson

Debian - Wheezy - KDE 4.8.4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda1
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

[Stuart Longland]

On 13/10/15 16:36, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 10/12/2015 04:58 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:53:05 -0400 (EDT), Stuart Longland wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd check the backscatter case, as this requires no skill on the part of
>>> the attacker and is the most likely case.
>>> ...
>>> It's worth knowing how to read the headers of emails in this
>>> circumstance as it can give you vital information for knowing what is
>>> going on.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I don't.  Attached below is one of the mail delivery
>> failure notices, which includes the headers of the original message.
>> But I don't understand what it all means.  Perhaps you or someone else
>> out there can make some sense of it and advise me accordingly.
>> Remember, I never sent the original e-mail.  I just got the delivery
>> failure notice.
> 
>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> 
>> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1081 <
> 
>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1081
> 
> 
> Looks like it was mailed from MS Windows.  Maybe mailed from a Windows
> OS with a virus.  Do you run Windows too?

It's a popular client to spoof too.

-- 
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Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 13 October 2015 01:50:53 ray wrote:
> > The contents are:
> >
> > LICENSE.iwlwifi-7265-ucode
> > README.iwlwifi-7265-ucode
> > iwlwifi-7265-14.ucode
> > iwlwifi-7265D-14.ucode
> >
> > You need to unpack with tar, and put these files themselves in your
> > firmware directory on the stick (rather than the whole archive).
>
> I placed these unpacked files in the 'firmware' directory of another stick.
>  I put both sticks in the laptop and started the installation.  There was
> no change in the result.
>
> While the above method is what is suggested on the debian wiki, is there a
> way to put this file in the iso I have downloaded from the Debian site?

Why not just use

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/

as Sven suggested?

Lisi

Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 13 October 2015 01:53:36 ray wrote:
> >   /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-7265D-10.ucode  firmware-iwlwifi
> >
> > Thus the package "firmware-iwlwifi" might be what you need?
>
> t--
> I have directly loaded the .ucode file on a second USB stick.  There was
> not change in the system response.  Is there another method to do this?

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/

:-))

Lisi

Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

[tomas]

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On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 01:54:53AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

[...]

> >It's a popular client to spoof too.
> 
> I'm just saying that there is a possible bot running and the chances
> are it's running in a windows environment, maybe even in a v-box,
> just a thought.

If I were the bot programmer, this would be the first thing I'd try to spoof.

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Re: problem med fsck

[jan]

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 08:37:01 +
Michael Kjörling  wrote:

> On 13 Oct 2015 10:14 +0200, from j...@lillahusetiskogen.se:
> > Vid uppstart kör Debian fsck på partitionen jag har Mint på och
> > returnerar 8 "operational error" och jag får upp en "maintenance
> > prompt".
> > 
> > När jag startat Mint kan jag naturligtvis inte checka den partionen
> > eftersom den är mountad.
> > 
> > Min fråga är: Hur gör jag för att tvinga Mint att checka partitionen
> > vid start?
> 
> Vet inte om det är riktigt vad du är ute efter, men kanske något i
> stil med "sudo tune2fs -c 1 /dev/sdxy" kan vara en början? Då kommer
> det filsystemet att kontrolleras vid varje uppstart. Se man 8 tune2fs.
> (Jag utgår ifrån att du använder ext2/3/4 på den partitionen.)
> 
> I Debian kan du sedan ändra i /etc/fstab så att sista fältet för samma
> /dev/sdxy är 0, vilket ska göra att Debian inte kontrollerar det
> filsystemet. Se man 5 fstab. Låt den vara 1 eller 2 i Mint.
> 
> Men själv skulle jag nog börja med att försöka komma på varför Debians
> fsck säger "operational error" om filsystemet...
> 

Jo det vill jag gärna veta men jag tänkte att ett första steg kunde
vara att köra fsck i Mint och se om den också protesterar.

Tack för tipset om tune2fs. Jag anade att det skulle vara något mer
eller mindre självklart.

Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi

[Manfred Constapel]

Hi,

i had the same issue on my laptp installing Wheezy.

Just put the .deb-file with containing .ucode (I assume it should be 
firmware-iwlwifi 0.44) to root on a second usb drive.

Then plug that usb drive to your machine after being asked to load firmware 
during the installation process.

Hope this helps.

MC

Re: print .tex or .dvi or .ps from Windows

[Stuart Longland]

On 13/10/15 15:45, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
> On Mon, October 12, 2015 11:15 pm, Stuart Longland wrote:
>> There's also a Windows port of Evince.
> 
> Thanks, Stuart; that knowledge may be useful.  But installing Evince
> likely is beyond the technical ability of my associate.  I hope that he
> has Adobe Reader running.

Adobe Reader is harder to get going without winding up with an unwanted
guest coming along for the ride.

By the looks of things it has been nicely packaged as a .msi installer.

https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evince/Downloads

> Recently I was in an office and spoke with the resident Windows expert; I
> was shocked to discover that I had a far better understanding of Windows
> than did he, even though I have not had to grapple with Windows for almost
> fifteen years now.  I remember how, years ago, regular observance of the
> ritual of defragmenting the drive was essential, and consumed a
> significant portion of the system uptime; I wonder whether that has
> changed.

Not by a huge margin.  Better than it used to be, but still miles behind
the competition.  The fact that most Linux filesystem utility packages
lack a defragmentation tool is rather telling in my opinion.  About the
only one that comes to mind is xfs_fsr.

That said, we can bash Windows all we like, the fact of the matter is
that the "imposter effect" is a very real phenomenon and plenty exist in
the IT world in both the Windows and non-Windows camps.
-- 
Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter, VK4MSL)

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Re: print .tex or .dvi or .ps from Windows

[rlharris]

On Tue, October 13, 2015 1:55 am, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> (Executive summary: there are lots of nice, free PDF viewers, even for
> Windows. The FSF has been making an effort to publicize that fact [3] and
> to get web pages to recommend those alternatives too).
> [1] 
> [2]
>  -viewers/>
> [3]
> 

Re: print .tex or .dvi or .ps from Windows

[tomas]

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On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 09:23:19PM -0500, David Wright wrote:

> [...] I haven't looked
> at a .dvi for years. I remember they're very quick to page through
> multi-page documents, but graphic includes were a problem.

FWIW I still use dvi for the "local part" of my workflow. Much quicker
than the bloated PDF.

When sending to someone with a "challenged" operating system (or when
doing graphical tricks which transcend what dvi was designed for), then
PDF it is, of course.

regards
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Re: print .tex or .dvi or .ps from Windows

[tomas]

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On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:45:33AM -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
> On Mon, October 12, 2015 11:15 pm, Stuart Longland wrote:
> > There's also a Windows port of Evince.
> 
> Thanks, Stuart; that knowledge may be useful.  But installing Evince
> likely is beyond the technical ability of my associate.  I hope that he
> has Adobe Reader running.

If he has -- too bad. If he hasn't, be sure to skim [1] and [2] before
making a recommendation.

(Executive summary: there are lots of nice, free PDF viewers, even for
Windows. The FSF has been making an effort to publicize that fact [3] and
to get web pages to recommend those alternatives too).

> Recently I was in an office and spoke with the resident Windows expert; I
> was shocked to discover that I had a far better understanding of Windows
> than did he, even though I have not had to grapple with Windows for almost
> fifteen years now.  I remember how, years ago, regular observance of the
> ritual of defragmenting the drive was essential, and consumed a
> significant portion of the system uptime; I wonder whether that has
> changed.

That's my experience too (with some exceptions, which always take me by
surprise :-)

There seems to be some affinity between those who choose a proprietary
OS and those who don't feel the urge to look under the hood.

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[1] 
[2] 

[3] 

regards
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Re: a little jessie whinage

[Mart van de Wege]

Seeker  writes:

> On 10/12/2015 12:31 AM, Glenn English wrote:
>>
>> On my laptop, there's a static nameserver address used by
>> eth0. wlan0 uses that too, when it can. But, IIRC, it's smart enough
>> to go looking around if the local network is gone.
>>
>>
> If you set up your network interface in '/etc/network/interfaces'
> resolvconf should pick up the nameserver
>  settings from the 'dns-nameservers' line of the config and you can
> stop worrying about ham-fisted software
> scribbling over your settings.
>
> That *is* the reason resolvconf was created. :-)
>
> By default network manager should see that an interface is set up in
> the interfaces file and not mess with it.

And it does behave that way. The NM/resolvconf combo ought to work fine,
and only overwrite resolv.conf because you ask it to (for example, when
switching networks). I've been running it for several years now, and the
only trouble I've had is with the interface between resolvconf and the
local bind instance I run as caching nameserver and authoritative slave
for my VPN.

Mart

-- 
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--- AJS, quoting an uncertain source.

Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 10/13/2015 12:06 AM, Stuart Longland wrote:

On 13/10/15 16:36, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

On 10/12/2015 04:58 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:53:05 -0400 (EDT), Stuart Longland wrote:


I'd check the backscatter case, as this requires no skill on the part of
the attacker and is the most likely case.
...
It's worth knowing how to read the headers of emails in this
circumstance as it can give you vital information for knowing what is
going on.


Unfortunately, I don't.  Attached below is one of the mail delivery
failure notices, which includes the headers of the original message.
But I don't understand what it all means.  Perhaps you or someone else
out there can make some sense of it and advise me accordingly.
Remember, I never sent the original e-mail.  I just got the delivery
failure notice.



X-MSMail-Priority: Normal



X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1081 <



X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1081



Looks like it was mailed from MS Windows.  Maybe mailed from a Windows
OS with a virus.  Do you run Windows too?


It's a popular client to spoof too.


I'm just saying that there is a possible bot running and the chances are 
it's running in a windows environment, maybe even in a v-box, just a 
thought.

--
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Sid - KDE Plasma 5.4.1 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda15
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

[Stuart Longland]

On 13/10/15 18:22, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 01:54:53AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>>> It's a popular client to spoof too.
> 
>> I'm just saying that there is a possible bot running and the chances
>> are it's running in a windows environment, maybe even in a v-box,
>> just a thought.
> 
> If I were the bot programmer, this would be the first thing I'd try to spoof.

Depending on the bot programmer, they probably send an email to
themselves using Outlook Express then view the message source and paste
that into their code.

-- 
Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter, VK4MSL)

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Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

[Jochen Spieker]

Stuart Longland:
> On 13/10/15 09:58, Stephen Powell wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately, I don't.  Attached below is one of the mail delivery
>> failure notices, which includes the headers of the original message.
>> But I don't understand what it all means.
…
>> Authentication-Results:  smtp02.wow.cmh.synacor.com 
>> smtp.user=thecoughingcanary; auth=pass (LOGIN)
>>
> Not sure about this one.

It looks like the mail was delivered directly through
smtp02.wow.cmh.synacor.com by a user who successfully authenticated
using the username thecoughingcanary.

@Stephen: is that you? Who runs this mail service? If this is not your
username, you might want to contact the people who run the service and
have them reset the user's password.

I had a similar case on my self-administered mail host. A friend of mine
has an account there and random hosts from all over the world used his
credentials to send legitimately looking spam. We never found out how
this happened but changing the password was enough to make it stop.

J.
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problem med fsck

[jan]

Hej!

På en av mina datorer har jag både Debian och Mint.

Vid uppstart kör Debian fsck på partitionen jag har Mint på och
returnerar 8 "operational error" och jag får upp en "maintenance
prompt".

När jag startat Mint kan jag naturligtvis inte checka den partionen
eftersom den är mountad.

Min fråga är: Hur gör jag för att tvinga Mint att checka partitionen
vid start?

/Janne

Re: problem med fsck

[Michael Kjörling]

On 13 Oct 2015 10:14 +0200, from j...@lillahusetiskogen.se:
> Vid uppstart kör Debian fsck på partitionen jag har Mint på och
> returnerar 8 "operational error" och jag får upp en "maintenance
> prompt".
> 
> När jag startat Mint kan jag naturligtvis inte checka den partionen
> eftersom den är mountad.
> 
> Min fråga är: Hur gör jag för att tvinga Mint att checka partitionen
> vid start?

Vet inte om det är riktigt vad du är ute efter, men kanske något i
stil med "sudo tune2fs -c 1 /dev/sdxy" kan vara en början? Då kommer
det filsystemet att kontrolleras vid varje uppstart. Se man 8 tune2fs.
(Jag utgår ifrån att du använder ext2/3/4 på den partitionen.)

I Debian kan du sedan ändra i /etc/fstab så att sista fältet för samma
/dev/sdxy är 0, vilket ska göra att Debian inte kontrollerar det
filsystemet. Se man 5 fstab. Låt den vara 1 eller 2 i Mint.

Men själv skulle jag nog börja med att försöka komma på varför Debians
fsck säger "operational error" om filsystemet...

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 those of us who know we don’t.” (Bjarne Stroustrup)

Re: print .tex or .dvi or .ps from Windows

[tomas]

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On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 02:54:28AM -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:

[...]

> Many thanks, Tomas.  For years I have been wary of Adobe Reader, but I had
> no idea that there were alternatives to Adobe Reader for Windows.

Hey, thank *you*, Russ for helping spread the word :-D

regards
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Re: problem med fsck

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 10:14 +0200, j...@lillahusetiskogen.se wrote:
> Hej!
> 
> På en av mina datorer har jag både Debian och Mint.
> 
> Vid uppstart kör Debian fsck på partitionen jag har Mint på och
> returnerar 8 "operational error" och jag får upp en "maintenance
> prompt".

Det där verkar vara ett ganska generellt fel. T.ex. här verkar den inte
kunna parsa rätt UUID:
 
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/fsck-died-with-exit-status-8-a-499851/

Så jag skulle gissa på att det inte är fel på filsystemet. 

> När jag startat Mint kan jag naturligtvis inte checka den partionen
> eftersom den är mountad.
> 
> Min fråga är: Hur gör jag för att tvinga Mint att checka partitionen
> vid start?

Om inte annat så går det ju att göra det via live-cd/usb.

-- 
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Plymouth theme with Caps Lock indication.

[Erwan David]

Hello,

I hava a laptop with encrytped FS, thus at boot I must enter the
decryption password. However, the keyboard does not have a led for
caps-lock indication, so I am looking for a way to see it at this very
early stage (ie before boot). Is there a plymouth theme with this
indication ?

Thank you

Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 10/13/2015 02:02 AM, Stuart Longland wrote:

On 13/10/15 18:22, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 01:54:53AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

[...]


It's a popular client to spoof too.



I'm just saying that there is a possible bot running and the chances
are it's running in a windows environment, maybe even in a v-box,
just a thought.


If I were the bot programmer, this would be the first thing I'd try to spoof.


Depending on the bot programmer, they probably send an email to
themselves using Outlook Express then view the message source and paste
that into their code.


Stuart actually the owned computer sends the emails, it's all done in 
the background, the box needs to be scanned with a bootable cd so the 
virus can't write back to it. This is the one I used to use before I 
retired https://www.f-secure.com/en/web/labs_global/rescue-cd

--
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Sid - KDE Plasma 5.4.1 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda15
Registered Linux User #380263

[HS] recherche interface web wysiwyg

[honeyshell]

Bonjour,

Je recherche une alternative libre pour la création de site web en page
statique du style wix.com.
La cible ne programme pas. C'est vraiment dans l'esprit de WordPress, mais
pour un site statique. Aussi simple (pas de drupal ou joomla svp). Il faut
que ce soit intuitif comme sur wix.com.

merci d'avance pour vos suggestions :-)
Bonne journée a tous

Honeyshell

unsubcribe

[Bob Bib]

unsuscribe

[Leonard Le-Rey]

Re: [apt] geen updates

[Richard Lucassen]

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 23:29:16 +0200
Paul van der Vlis  wrote:

> Volgens mij hoef je niet bang te zijn voor ellende bij het handmatig
> updaten van packages met apt. Dat kun je hebben bij dpkg, maar bij apt
> gaat dat eigenlijk altijd goed. Dat installeert die "dependency hell"
> keurig voor je, en vraagt eerst nog even om toestemming als zoiets er
> is.

Je gaat voorbij aan het feit dat de hut ergens corrupt is geraakt.

> Ik denk dat als je packages weer up-to-date zijn, er ook weer
> geupdated wordt met "apt-get dist-upgrade" ("apt-get upgrade" is
> zelden zinnig).

Ik denk nou juist dat dat niet gaat werken. Als het niet corrupt zou
zijn zou een simpele update ook moeten werken. Ik ga niet
experimenteren met een corrupte database op een paar servers in
productie. Ik besteed liever tijd aan een update. Het zij maar zo...

-- 
richard lucassen
http://contact.xaq.nl/

Re: problem med fsck

[jan]

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:04:40 +0200
Sven Arvidsson  wrote:

> On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 10:14 +0200, j...@lillahusetiskogen.se wrote:
> > Hej!
> > 
> > På en av mina datorer har jag både Debian och Mint.
> > 
> > Vid uppstart kör Debian fsck på partitionen jag har Mint på och
> > returnerar 8 "operational error" och jag får upp en "maintenance
> > prompt".
> 
> Det där verkar vara ett ganska generellt fel. T.ex. här verkar den
> inte kunna parsa rätt UUID:
>  
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/fsck-died-with-exit-status-8-a-499851/
> 
> Så jag skulle gissa på att det inte är fel på filsystemet. 
> 
> > När jag startat Mint kan jag naturligtvis inte checka den partionen
> > eftersom den är mountad.
> > 
> > Min fråga är: Hur gör jag för att tvinga Mint att checka partitionen
> > vid start?
> 
> Om inte annat så går det ju att göra det via live-cd/usb.
> 

Hahaha, den (live-cd/usb) var bra. Att jag inte tänkte på det! Rodnar!

Det här med UUID, är det bra det? Jag har aldrig gillat det men det
kanske beror på att mina system är okomplicerade. Det används flitigt
så någon fördel måste det ju vara.

Re: problem med fsck

[Ludvig Andersson]

Hej!

Vill du tvinga fsck(8) att köra vid uppstart
kan du skapa filen '/forcefsck'. Init-skriptet
'/etc/init.d/checkroot.sh' tolkar detta som
att fsck(8) ska köras. Filen raderas efter
att tester gjorts.

Jag gissar att det fungerar på liknande sätt
om man använder systemd.

/Ludde

On 2015-10-13 11:20, j...@lillahusetiskogen.se wrote:

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:04:40 +0200
Sven Arvidsson  wrote:


On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 10:14 +0200, j...@lillahusetiskogen.se wrote:

Hej!

På en av mina datorer har jag både Debian och Mint.

Vid uppstart kör Debian fsck på partitionen jag har Mint på och
returnerar 8 "operational error" och jag får upp en "maintenance
prompt".


Det där verkar vara ett ganska generellt fel. T.ex. här verkar den
inte kunna parsa rätt UUID:
  
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/fsck-died-with-exit-status-8-a-499851/

Så jag skulle gissa på att det inte är fel på filsystemet.


När jag startat Mint kan jag naturligtvis inte checka den partionen
eftersom den är mountad.

Min fråga är: Hur gör jag för att tvinga Mint att checka partitionen
vid start?


Om inte annat så går det ju att göra det via live-cd/usb.



Hahaha, den (live-cd/usb) var bra. Att jag inte tänkte på det! Rodnar!

Det här med UUID, är det bra det? Jag har aldrig gillat det men det
kanske beror på att mina system är okomplicerade. Det används flitigt
så någon fördel måste det ju vara.

Re: Using hotspot in Debian Jessie

[Himanshu Shekhar]

The b43 driver didn't work on this system. The hardware worked when I
replaced the package broadcom-sta-common with broadcom-sta-dkms.
I think that's the driver.

Himanshu Shekhar
IIIT-Allahabad
IRM2015006

Re: debian-user list problem

[moxalt]

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:40:22 +0100, Lisi Reisz  wrote:

> On Monday 12 October 2015 16:04:03 moxalt wrote:
> > I thought that was a bit strange and enquired
> > as to whether the Debian list sends people's messages back to them by
> > default. Since I had only just subscribed and had not received any posts
> > back yet I had cause to wonder.
> 
> I get mine back, provided that I don't use GMail's SMTP.  If I use my ISP's 
> SMTP server I get them back.
> 
> Lisi

A post that was actually helpful and informative, rather than bitching about my
posting etiquette. Thank you.

Re: Web Kvm manager

[Camaleón]

El Mon, 12 Oct 2015 12:22:33 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió:

(ese html...)

> buenos dias comunidad les escribo en esta oportunidad por que ando
> buscando usa solucion parecida a webmin
> 
> 
> pero en este caso para gestionar maquinas virtuales desde el explorador

Es decir, que buscas un administrador de máquinas virtuales KVM desde el 
navegador. Pues mira a ver si encuentras algo por aquí :-)

http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Management_Tools

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: Jessie + Mate + Gimp 2.8 = Me tumba la sesion!

[Camaleón]

El Tue, 13 Oct 2015 01:13:52 +0200, Jose Ab bA escribió:

> Buenas!

Ese formato...

> A ver si me podeis echar un cable:
> 
> Tengo instalado Jessie+Mate y Gimp 2.8, cuando manipulo alguna imagen,

¿Alguna imagen... que pesa 20 GiB y a la que aplicas scripts y filtros a 
porrillo uno detrás de otro? :-)

> por algun motivo se me satura la maquina (se pone hacer operaciones en
> el disco como loca... es como si se hubiera quedado sin ram (tiene 4gb)
> y estuviese utilizando las swaps (hay 2)).

¿Qué le haces exactamente en The Gimp? ¿Has probado con otro programa u 
otra imagen (o la misma pero con otro formato)?

> Despues de un buen rato, o se me cierra la sesion, o muere Gimp con todo
> el trabajo que habia hecho.

Si muere la sesión quedará registrado. Mira a ver qué tienes en 
"~/.Xsession-errors". Otra cosa que puedes hacer es ejecutar The Gimp 
desde consola a ver si antes de tumbar la sesión te saca algo cuando se 
quede tieso.

> Intento indagar en el momento, pero el sistema queda tan saturado que no
> puedo ni cambiarme a ninguno de los tty... Y para cuando puedo hacer
> algo ya es tarde.

¿Puedes acceder en remoto mediante SSH desde otro equipo?

> Os pego el lspci de la maquina, por si os sirve de algo:

(...)

Ando un poco perdida con las novedades de Intel pero parece un equipo 
modernito (he visto QPI en lugar de Bus, así que el equipo no debe ser 
muy antiguo).

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: problem med fsck

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 14:45 +0200, j...@lillahusetiskogen.se wrote:
> Ok Anders och Ludvig. Jag viker ner mig och ska försöka läsa på lite.

Det är ganska smidigt, kika under /dev/disk/by-* så har du olika sätt
att identifiera diskar. Du kan tex. ge dem namn, så jag har bla.
/dev/disk/by-label/Backup för backupdisken. 

-- 
Cheers,
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Re: apt-get update hanging on security and backports.

[moxalt]

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:20:11 -0400, Ed Jabbour  wrote:

> On Monday, October 12, 2015 02:34:25 AM Reco wrote:
> > Hi.
> > 
> > On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 21:19:32 -0400
> > 
> > Ed Jabbour  wrote:
> > > Running Wheezy.  Recently, update has been hanging on
> > > http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main and
> > > http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main.  
> > 
> > Have you tested the possibility of MTU blackhole somewhere between
> > you and security.debian.org?
> > 
> > I.e. given conventional Ethernet, and normal circumstances, this
> > should work:
> > 
> > ping -s 1472 -M dont -c 4 security.debian.org
> > 
> > But if something just discards IP packets with MTU 1500 along the
> > way, such ping would fail.
> > 
> > Reco
> 
> I ran it and got:
> 
> [Mon Oct 12]~ $ ping -s 1472 -M dont -c 4 security.debian.org
> PING security.debian.org (128.61.240.73) 1472(1500) bytes of data.
> 1480 bytes from sechter.debian.org (128.61.240.73): icmp_req=1 ttl=52 
> time=70.3 mshttp.debian.net/
> 1480 bytes from sechter.debian.org (128.61.240.73): icmp_req=2 ttl=52 
> time=70.5 ms
> 1480 bytes from sechter.debian.org (128.61.240.73): icmp_req=3 ttl=52 
> time=70.7 ms
> 1480 bytes from sechter.debian.org (128.61.240.73): icmp_req=4 ttl=52 
> time=70.7 ms
> 
> Looks OK to me.  I changed the backports repo from debian.net to 
> uchicago.edu and everything just flows.  Now, if I can only find the 
> problem with security.debian.net, which as I understand it, has no 
> trustworthy mirrors

You should try using http://ftp.acc.umu.se/debian/ for your stable,
stable-updates and such. By far the best and fastest Debian mirror I know of.
For security, try using http://security.debian.org/ as opposed to .net.

Re: Cambiar de kernel en Jessie

[Camaleón]

El Mon, 12 Oct 2015 20:42:23 +0200, Josu Lazkano escribió:

> Gracias a todos!
> 
> He borrado el kernel actual y me ha funcionado, la verdad que estaba
> un poco acojonado.

No es para menos. Yo sólo hago eso con una versión testing porque lo 
normal es que te pueda pasar alguna cosa, sobre todo si tienes cargados 
módulos que se compilan contra una versión del kernel determinada (como 
los drivers de nvidia, virtualbox, etc...).
 
> Muchas gracias por todo.
> 
> Me interesa el kernel 4.2 para un hardware que tengo, como puedo saber
> cuando se añadira en el backport de jessie? Teneis alguna pagina o rss
> donde seguir esas cosas?

Sí, claro, puedes buscar los paquetes desde la página de la wiki. Por 
cierto, ya está disponible la versión 4.2 en los backports ;-)

https://packages.debian.org/jessie-backports/linux-image-4.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: Putting apt-listchanges and dpkg output in mail sent by unattended-upgrades

[moxalt]

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:43:00 +0200, Ondřej Grover 
wrote:

> Because I get such emails for more hosts and it's inconvenient to try to
> match up the changelogs with reports. I would also like to see the full log
> for needrestart output.
> 
> As I asked in my original question, I'd like to know what the most
> "Debian-proper" way for editing such scripts is. If that is to roll my own
> package with a patch, I wonder what the recommended and most maintainable
> way is these days.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Ondřej Grover

The most "Debian-proper" way? I'm not really sure- I would edit the script
myself and just keep that as the local version. The only problem is that newer
versions of the package would probably overwrite it- but they may offer a
'local version of config' menu like GRUB and libpolkit do. Try it. The worst
that could happen is that you'll have to make the appropriate edits again after
an upgrade- but you'll probably be fine if you keep a backup.

Rolling your own package seems a bit overkill for what you're trying to do.

Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi

[moxalt]

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:13:21 -0700 (PDT), ray  wrote:

> On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 7:20:04 AM UTC-5, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> > On Mon, 2015-10-12 at 04:48 -0700, ray wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > It might be easier to simply use installation media with the firmware
> > included:
> > 
> > http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/
> > 
> Sven,
> 
> Thank you.  I downloaded the file, built the iso and ran it.  I get the same
> results as above.  

'built the iso'- what do you mean by this? I presume you meant 'wrote the iso'?

> I am wondering if I may be operating the GUI incorrectly.  The laptop has a
> very high resolution.  I have to magnify the scrren to read it.  I do not see
> the typical two bottons in the bottom right corner.  I may not be operating
> this correctly - or there are no buttons there at this stage.

I'm not sure what you're referring to as 'the GUI'- if you're using the
netinstall CD with non-free firmware as recommended by Sven, you should have a
text-based ncurses-based interface, as opposed to the graphical installer.

Your second suggestion I think is probably what actually happened. During the
'hardware detection' phase of the installation process (where as you noted,
there are indeed no buttons), it can sometimes hang for a bit, usually for a few
seconds. It can take up to a few minutes on some machines, though. Be patient.

Re: Latinoware 2015

[Leonardo Rocha]

On 12-10-2015 11:45, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 01:39:18AM -0300, Tobias Sette wrote:
>> Haverá alguma atividade do grupo? Precisam de voluntários?
> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/br/2015/MiniDebconfLatinoware
>
Galera, alguma dica de qual programa utilizar para abrir arquivo do tipo
iCal no GNU/Linux (Debian 8)? Estou com a programação do latinoware aqui
mas não acho nada bacana pra visualiza-la.

Agradeço.

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Re: a little jessie whinage

[Brian]

On Mon 12 Oct 2015 at 18:55:40 -0700, Seeker wrote:

> Have not tried setting an interface for DHCP with static DNS using a
> 'dns-nameservers' line in case you want to
> use Google DNS server, OpenDNS, or some other public DNS server when you are

The example in the resolvconf manual is for a static address but
dns-nameserver also works with a DHCP stanza in /e/n/i.

> on the road. But you can use
> dhclient for that if you need to, have not personally tried that either.

That works too.

  prepend domain-name-servers 8.8.8.8;

Re: problem med fsck

[Ludvig Andersson]

Sedan ett tag tillbaka initierar Linux hårdvaran
parallellt. Detta kan leda till att enheter
som inte alltid får samma beteckning.
'/dev/sda' kan plötsligt bli '/dev/sdb'. För
att undvika problem använder man därför UUID.

/Ludde

On 2015-10-13 13:31, Anders Jackson wrote:


Den 13 okt 2015 11:20 skrev >:
 >
 > On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:04:40 +0200
 > Sven Arvidsson > wrote:
 >
 > > On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 10:14 +0200, j...@lillahusetiskogen.se
 wrote:
 > > > Hej!
 > > >
 > > > På en av mina datorer har jag både Debian och Mint.
 > > >
 > > > Vid uppstart kör Debian fsck på partitionen jag har Mint på och
 > > > returnerar 8 "operational error" och jag får upp en "maintenance
 > > > prompt".
 > >
 > > Det där verkar vara ett ganska generellt fel. T.ex. här verkar den
 > > inte kunna parsa rätt UUID:
 > >
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/fsck-died-with-exit-status-8-a-499851/
 > >
 > > Så jag skulle gissa på att det inte är fel på filsystemet.
 > >
 > > > När jag startat Mint kan jag naturligtvis inte checka den partionen
 > > > eftersom den är mountad.
 > > >
 > > > Min fråga är: Hur gör jag för att tvinga Mint att checka partitionen
 > > > vid start?
 > >
 > > Om inte annat så går det ju att göra det via live-cd/usb.
 > >
 >
 > Hahaha, den (live-cd/usb) var bra. Att jag inte tänkte på det! Rodnar!

Det finns flera sätt.  Att tvinga fram hur regelbundet det skall tvingas
fram samt att bara nästa omboot skall göras. Lösningarna är redan
postade. Och för dig skulle jag rekommendera den med filen.

 > Det här med UUID, är det bra det? Jag har aldrig gillat det men det
 > kanske beror på att mina system är okomplicerade. Det används flitigt
 > så någon fördel måste det ju vara.

Därför att UUID är oberoende av vilken enhet som filsystemet finns på.
Mycket trevlig egenskap, tro mig. ;-)

/Jackson

Re: print .tex or .dvi or .ps from Windows

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 13 October 2015 04:57:07 rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
> On Mon, October 12, 2015 9:16 pm, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > Use PDF instead of PS. That's the fool-proof method, and you get the
> > advantages of the PDF specification.
> >
> > [It's also probably time to move away from pdflatex to xelatex or
> > some other LaTeX engine with real utf8 support.]
>
> Thanks for bringing up the utf8 issue; I keep forgetting about it.
>
> But is the PDF file I produce with whatever is in Jessie likely to be
> readable by Windows XP or Vista?  I ask this because I have an older HP
> laserjet which cannot decipher Postscript Level 3.

Surely the whole point of .pdf is that it is an open standard which 
is "universal"?  And it has traditionally been easier to make use of from 
Windows than from Linux.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format

Lisi

Re: print .tex or .dvi or .ps from Windows

[Joseph Loo]

On 10/13/2015 05:12 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 October 2015 04:57:07 rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
>> On Mon, October 12, 2015 9:16 pm, Don Armstrong wrote:
>>> Use PDF instead of PS. That's the fool-proof method, and you get the
>>> advantages of the PDF specification.
>>>
>>> [It's also probably time to move away from pdflatex to xelatex or
>>> some other LaTeX engine with real utf8 support.]
>>
>> Thanks for bringing up the utf8 issue; I keep forgetting about it.
>>
>> But is the PDF file I produce with whatever is in Jessie likely to be
>> readable by Windows XP or Vista?  I ask this because I have an older HP
>> laserjet which cannot decipher Postscript Level 3.
> 
> Surely the whole point of .pdf is that it is an open standard which 
> is "universal"?  And it has traditionally been easier to make use of from 
> Windows than from Linux.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format
> 
> Lisi
> 
I am a little late in the discussion, but have you tried installing
ghostscript on your windows machine? It will convert ps and possibly pdf
to pcl or some other printers they have drivers for. It has been a long
time since I used it on windows.

-- 
Joseph Loo
j...@acm.org

Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

[Brian]

On Mon 12 Oct 2015 at 19:58:59 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:53:05 -0400 (EDT), Stuart Longland wrote:
> > 
> > I'd check the backscatter case, as this requires no skill on the part of
> > the attacker and is the most likely case.
> > ...
> > It's worth knowing how to read the headers of emails in this
> > circumstance as it can give you vital information for knowing what is
> > going on.
> 
> Unfortunately, I don't.  Attached below is one of the mail delivery
> failure notices, which includes the headers of the original message.
> But I don't understand what it all means.  Perhaps you or someone else
> out there can make some sense of it and advise me accordingly.
> Remember, I never sent the original e-mail.  I just got the delivery
> failure notice.
> 
> -
> 
> This message was created automatically by the mail system (ecelerity).

ecelerity is a mail platform owned by Message Systems. It attempted to
send a mail to zerrie...@aol.com which was rejected by AOL. It is now
informing you of the rejection. ecelerity does not run on your machine.

> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
> 
> >>> zerrie...@aol.com (after RCPT TO): 550 5.1.1 : 
> >>> Recipient address rejected: aol.com
> 
> -- This is a copy of the headers of the original message. --
> 
> Return-Path: 
> X_CMAE_Category: , ,
> X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=eaKdB+wH c=1 sm=1 tr=0 
> a=FxXVyIFnAocEnA08ajU80w==:117 a=FxXVyIFnAocEnA08ajU80w==:17 a=K-v-2zaB:8 
> a=QP5IY3kg:8 a=ZhWb6TEz:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=op2l2dobe8TBvKaan4QA:9 
> a=qSf3gRf-E_nrW77P:21 a=Nputykdsa0hyqt36:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10
> X-CM-Score: 0
> X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine
> X-Authed-Username: dGhlY291Z2hpbmdjYW5hcnlAd293d2F5LmNvbQ==
> X_CMAE_Category: , ,
> X-CNFS-Analysis: 
> X-CM-Score: 
> X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine

Standard ecelerity stuff. It can be seen in the headers of the two mails
you have contributed to this thread. ecelerity attempted contact with
AOL using an envelope From of .

> Authentication-Results:  smtp02.wow.cmh.synacor.com 
> smtp.user=thecoughingcanary; auth=pass (LOGIN)

ecelerity reckons someone from smtp02.wow.cmh.synacor.com has been
authenticated. Your mails to -user have

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Re: [apt] geen updates

[Paul van der Vlis]

Op 13-10-15 om 12:21 schreef Richard Lucassen:
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 23:29:16 +0200
> Paul van der Vlis  wrote:
> 
>> Volgens mij hoef je niet bang te zijn voor ellende bij het handmatig
>> updaten van packages met apt. Dat kun je hebben bij dpkg, maar bij apt
>> gaat dat eigenlijk altijd goed. Dat installeert die "dependency hell"
>> keurig voor je, en vraagt eerst nog even om toestemming als zoiets er
>> is.
> 
> Je gaat voorbij aan het feit dat de hut ergens corrupt is geraakt.

Ik concentreer me op het oplossen van het probleem.

Als je het pakket-voor-pakket doet, kom je er wellicht achter welk
pakket het probleem veroorzaakt heeft.

Tenminste, ik denk dat er een goede kans is dat je probleem komt door
een foutief pakket. Wellicht van Proxmox.

Ik gebruik dat soort externe repositories niet graag. Bij mij is het
steeds meer "puur Debian".

>> Ik denk dat als je packages weer up-to-date zijn, er ook weer
>> geupdated wordt met "apt-get dist-upgrade" ("apt-get upgrade" is
>> zelden zinnig).
> 
> Ik denk nou juist dat dat niet gaat werken. Als het niet corrupt zou
> zijn zou een simpele update ook moeten werken. 

Misschien vergis ik me, maar volgens mij kan 1 foutief pakket alles
blokkeren. Misschien is er hier iemand die daar iets zinnigs over kan
zeggen?  Maar ik zou eigenlijk wel een foutmelding verwachten dan.

> Ik ga niet
> experimenteren met een corrupte database op een paar servers in
> productie. Ik besteed liever tijd aan een update. Het zij maar zo...

Jouw keus, is inderdaad ook een optie.

dpkg heeft een database in o.a. /var/lib/dpkg/status

Volgens mij staan daar ook backups, maar die heb ik eigenlijk nog nooit
hoeven terugzetten, en ik weet ook niet of dat een goed idee is.

Ik heb weleens gehoord van mensen die /var/lib/dpkg/status wissen en er
een leeg bestand neerzetten, en dan een --reinstall doen van alle
pakketten op het systeem. Maar daar zou ik maar voorzichtig mee zijn ;-)

Groet,
Paul.




-- 
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https://www.vandervlis.nl/

Re: problem med fsck

[jan]

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 13:42:49 +0200
Ludvig Andersson  wrote:

> Sedan ett tag tillbaka initierar Linux hårdvaran
> parallellt. Detta kan leda till att enheter
> som inte alltid får samma beteckning.
> '/dev/sda' kan plötsligt bli '/dev/sdb'. För
> att undvika problem använder man därför UUID.
> 
> /Ludde
> 
> On 2015-10-13 13:31, Anders Jackson wrote:
> >
> > Den 13 okt 2015 11:20 skrev  > >:
> >  >
> >  > On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:04:40 +0200
> >  > Sven Arvidsson > wrote:
> >  >
> >  > > On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 10:14 +0200, j...@lillahusetiskogen.se
> >  wrote:
> >  > > > Hej!
> >  > > >
> >  > > > På en av mina datorer har jag både Debian och Mint.
> >  > > >
> >  > > > Vid uppstart kör Debian fsck på partitionen jag har Mint på
> >  > > > och returnerar 8 "operational error" och jag får upp en
> >  > > > "maintenance prompt".
> >  > >
> >  > > Det där verkar vara ett ganska generellt fel. T.ex. här verkar
> >  > > den inte kunna parsa rätt UUID:
> >  > >
> > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/fsck-died-with-exit-status-8-a-499851/
> >  > >
> >  > > Så jag skulle gissa på att det inte är fel på filsystemet.
> >  > >
> >  > > > När jag startat Mint kan jag naturligtvis inte checka den
> >  > > > partionen eftersom den är mountad.
> >  > > >
> >  > > > Min fråga är: Hur gör jag för att tvinga Mint att checka
> >  > > > partitionen vid start?
> >  > >
> >  > > Om inte annat så går det ju att göra det via live-cd/usb.
> >  > >
> >  >
> >  > Hahaha, den (live-cd/usb) var bra. Att jag inte tänkte på det!
> >  > Rodnar!
> >
> > Det finns flera sätt.  Att tvinga fram hur regelbundet det skall
> > tvingas fram samt att bara nästa omboot skall göras. Lösningarna är
> > redan postade. Och för dig skulle jag rekommendera den med filen.
> >
> >  > Det här med UUID, är det bra det? Jag har aldrig gillat det men
> >  > det kanske beror på att mina system är okomplicerade. Det
> >  > används flitigt så någon fördel måste det ju vara.
> >
> > Därför att UUID är oberoende av vilken enhet som filsystemet finns
> > på. Mycket trevlig egenskap, tro mig. ;-)
> >
> > /Jackson
> >
> 

Ok Anders och Ludvig. Jag viker ner mig och ska försöka läsa på lite.

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

[Brian]

On Mon 12 Oct 2015 at 09:57:54 -0400, James Richardson wrote:

> Brian writes:
> 
> > On Fri 09 Oct 2015 at 17:18:28 -0400, James Richardson wrote:
> >
> >> Runit does not require one change one's init system. That is why is
> >> states it can run under sysv init OR replace the init system.
> >> 
> >> Simply installing runit does not replace the init system.
> >
> > Correct. So how does simply installing it allow an autologin to X?
> >
> > As a matter of interest. From runit(8):
> >
> >   DESCRIPTION
> >  runit must be run as Unix process no 1.
> >
> >   root@jessie:~# runit
> >   - runit: fatal: must be run as process no 1.
> 
> Well, one has to configure it.
> 
> In /etc/inittab add a line like
> 
> SV:123456:respawn:/usr/sbin/runsvdir-start
> 
> then create a run script for firefox (.e.g /etc/sv/firefox/run)
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> exec /usr/bin/xinit /usr/bin/firefox
> 
> then create a symlink fro /etc/sv/firefox to /etc/service
> 
> more info is at http://smarden.org/runit/.

Thank you for the detail. I'm sure it works under sysvinit but systemd
doesn't use /etc/inittab.

Re: Yan: Kopyalama işleminde doğrudan usb aygıta yazma nasıl sağlanır?

[Doruk Fisek]

Sun, 4 Oct 2015 10:24:35 + (UTC), Serkan KURT  :

> 7- Bellek tekrar sisteme takıldığında erişim sağlanamıyor8- "Debian
> flash bellekleri bozuyor" espirileri yapılıyor :) (Çoğu yeni
> kullanıcı için GPL bir anda önemsizleşiyor :( ) 

Buradaki sorun, bellekte dosya sistemi olarak NTFS kullanılmasından
kaynaklanıyor diye düşünüyorum.

NTFS dosya sistemi temiz umount edilmediği zaman, NTFS modülü öntanımlı
olarak mount etmeyi reddediyor, önce düzeltin diyor.

Bu sorun Windows'tan "çat diye sökülen" NTFS formatlı bellekler için de
geçerli.

Eğer sorunun tamamen önüne geçmek istiyorsanız, ntfs modülünü öntanımlı
force ederek bağla diye ayarlayabilirsiniz.

   Doruk

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Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi

[ray]

> Why not just use
> 
> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/
> 
> as Sven suggested?
> 
> Lisi

I reported on that attempt yesterday - I obtained the same results as the free 
version.

Re: unlisted mirrors & non-gui installation

[moxalt]

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 23:07:35 -0500, Adrian O'Dell  wrote:

> Previously during install, when selecting which Mirror to use, one could 
> press the up arrow and get a line to input a custom mirror location, 
> such as one kept locally. This feature seems to have been removed from 
> Debian8 installer.
> 
> ***
> 
> For a console-only (non-gui) environment, there should be added to the 
> list of GUIs "Console-Only" (or whatever wording you desire). Currently 
> it is assumed that no selection means no gui, which makes sense HOWEVER 
> if one deselected the bottom option "standard system utilities" gnome is 
> installed.
> 
> "standard system utilities" is vague; one would think this is such like 
> whois, tracert, etc. Perhaps this option should be removed, in tandem 
> with "Console-Only" being added.

So what does 'standard system utilities' actually mean? What does it install? I
always install from netinstall, and prefer text-mode environments. I usually
install X and a window manager later so I don't have to deal with a login
manager. In the past, I was always unsure of what 'standard system utilities'
actually meant, but took it as a euphemism for a basic text-mode environment.
Is this the case?

Re: Tracking down memory leaks

[Don Armstrong]

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> Is there a way to determine what is using up my memory? I have an 8GB
> system and every few days the memory usage rises to over 7 GB and up
> to a GB, or more of swap is used. Granted, I have 3 X sessions
> running, along with 2 instances of Firefox and one of Chrome, not to
> mention up to 3 instances of Libre Office, but... When I first added
> the 8 GB (I used to do this on 2.25 GB!) I could run for months
> without having a memory problem. Now it's every few days.

What is the precise output of free?

Odds are a huge amount of what is in "use" is actually cached or in
buffers.

Furthermore, it's pretty normal for the OS to swap out memory pages
which aren't actively being changed to make room for more buffers and
cache.

The output of top or htop sorted by memory will also be informative.


-- 
Don Armstrong  http://www.donarmstrong.com

Nothing is as inevitable as a mistake whose time has come.
 -- Tussman's Law

Re: unlisted mirrors & non-gui installation

[Brian]

On Tue 13 Oct 2015 at 17:37:15 +0300, moxalt wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 23:07:35 -0500, Adrian O'Dell  
> wrote:
> 
> > "standard system utilities" is vague; one would think this is such like 
> > whois, tracert, etc. Perhaps this option should be removed, in tandem 
> > with "Console-Only" being added.
> 
> So what does 'standard system utilities' actually mean? What does it install? 
> I
> always install from netinstall, and prefer text-mode environments. I usually
> install X and a window manager later so I don't have to deal with a login
> manager. In the past, I was always unsure of what 'standard system utilities'
> actually meant, but took it as a euphemism for a basic text-mode environment.
> Is this the case?

Packages that developers think you will find useful to be on your system.
For a list:

  aptitude search ~pstandard

The package list is subject to alteration with each release.

Re: unlisted mirrors & non-gui installation

[Brian]

On Mon 12 Oct 2015 at 23:07:35 -0500, Adrian O'Dell wrote:

> Previously during install, when selecting which Mirror to use, one could
> press the up arrow and get a line to input a custom mirror location, such as
> one kept locally. This feature seems to have been removed from Debian8
> installer.

The last time I looked you go to the top of the list for this.

Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

[Andrew McGlashan]

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On 13/10/2015 7:15 PM, Jochen Spieker wrote:
> Stuart Longland: I had a similar case on my self-administered mail
> host. A friend of mine has an account there and random hosts from
> all over the world used his credentials to send legitimately
> looking spam. We never found out how this happened but changing the
> password was enough to make it stop.

Odds on it was open WiFi somewhere, people trust public WiFi ... I
cannot understand why.  It is patently stupid [or ignorant at best] to
use public [or otherwise open] WiFi -- if you don't run it yourself or
you totally trust the person whom is running it, then leave it alone.

Linus had quite a fit over OpenSuSE handling of WiFi networks; it was
asking for root password to enable the WiFi (amongst other things) --
that I think is absolutely the right way to do this.  Admins should
allow network access specifically, not ordinary users, let alone
Linus' daughter whom otherwise should never need to know the root
password.

Of course, using VPN for everything and I do mean everything on an
untrusted WiFi /may/ help, but you better not be running an insecure
VPN like PPTP.

Cheers
A.

[1] https://plus.google.com/+LinusTorvalds/posts/1vyfmNCYpi5
 - and related write up about retiring kernel devs as a bonus:
http://fossforce.com/2015/10/good-software-bad-behavior/


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Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 13 October 2015 15:07:29 ray wrote:
> > Why not just use
> >
> > http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmwa
> >re/
> >
> > as Sven suggested?
> >
> > Lisi
>
> I reported on that attempt yesterday - I obtained the same results as the
> free version.

Sorry, I can understand neither this nor the previous one to which you refer, 
which I have only just seen.  (It must have been held up somewhere.) 

This CD normally Just Works.

Can you describe what you do, including any checks you do and how you burn 
your CD?

Another way I have used in the past to get past a troublesome WiFi card or 
too-new Ethernet card, is to install an old Ethernet card temporarily to do 
the installation, sort the drivers out once it is installed, then remove the 
old card.

Lisi

Re: Fwd: Re: ¿Es peligroso borrar los transitional dummy packages?

[Camaleón]

El Mon, 12 Oct 2015 22:16:32 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió:

> El 12/10/15 a las 16:01, Camaleón escribió:

(...)

>> Los paquetes de transición de pega ("dummy") se puede eliminar cuando
>> se encuentren disponibles los paquetes por los que van a ser
>> sustituidos y por lo general, te dicen que se pueden eliminar cuando
>> esto suceda.
> 
> Pues uno de los que eliminé fue iproute porque ya estaba iproute2, pero
> de los otros no estoy seguro si ya estaba el paquete sustituto... Pero
> bueno, si he desinstalado de más, no debe ser grave, porque todo lo que
> hago con el sistema me funciona igual que antes :-D

Si te fijas en la información de ese paquete, verás que depende de 
iproute2, así que no hay problema salvo como dice la información, que 
otro paquete instalado dependa de él.

https://packages.debian.org/stretch/iproute

>> Lo que sí me parece arriesgado es eliminar las versiones del compilador
>> anteriores porque no sabes si alguna aplicación (propia de Debian o una
>> aplicación de terceros) lo va a necesitar.
> 
> Esto no sé... Yo no compilo nada, ni instalo nada de terceros. Todo lo
> que instalo son paquetes binarios desde los repos... Ya veremos si no la
> he liado. :)

Teniendo en cuenta que testing cambia de continuo (salvo cuando entra en 
fase de congelación meses antes de salir la nueva versión de Debian) es 
posible que algunos paquetes no hayan migrado aún (o estén en proceso) a 
la nueva versión de compilador, o simplemente que estén preparados para 
una versión anterior y den algún error al ejecutarse estando vinculado el 
compilador del sistema a la nueva versión y apunten a alguna función que 
no exista. En fin, son casos muy puntuales pero puede pasar.

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Tracking down memory leaks

[Marc Shapiro]

Is there a way to determine what is using up my memory?  I have an 8GB 
system and every few days the memory usage rises to over 7 GB and up to 
a GB, or more of swap is used.  Granted, I have 3 X sessions running, 
along with 2 instances of Firefox and one of Chrome, not to mention up 
to 3 instances of Libre Office, but... When I first added the 8 GB (I 
used to do this on 2.25 GB!) I could run for months without having a 
memory problem.  Now it's every few days.


When this happens, I exit all programs and shut down all three X 
sessions.  I also log out the other two users.  This leaves me with only 
a single login and nothing but bash running.  When I run 'free' it 
usually shows over 2 GB in use!  When I reboot, the memory usage is back 
down at about 250 MB.  Much more reasonable.


So how do I tell what is using up the memory and not freeing it up? Is 
there a way to free that memory without having to reboot?


Marc

Re: Tracking down memory leaks

[The Wanderer]

On 2015-10-13 at 10:26, Marc Shapiro wrote:

> Is there a way to determine what is using up my memory?  I have an
> 8GB system and every few days the memory usage rises to over 7 GB and
> up to a GB, or more of swap is used.  Granted, I have 3 X sessions
> running, along with 2 instances of Firefox and one of Chrome, not to
> mention up to 3 instances of Libre Office, but... When I first added
> the 8 GB (I used to do this on 2.25 GB!) I could run for months
> without having a memory problem.  Now it's every few days.
> 
> When this happens, I exit all programs and shut down all three X 
> sessions.  I also log out the other two users.  This leaves me with
> only a single login and nothing but bash running.  When I run 'free'
> it usually shows over 2 GB in use!  When I reboot, the memory usage
> is back down at about 250 MB.  Much more reasonable.
> 
> So how do I tell what is using up the memory and not freeing it up?

My usual first stop is top. Launch it, then press 'M' (capitalized) to
sort by memory usage; that will tell you what process(es) is(/are) using
up the largest share(s) of the RAM.

What the next steps are depends on what those processes are. In my case,
with the last significant memory leak I found, the process was X, and
further digging revealed that the X heap size was growing without limit;
it turned out to be a problem with fglrx, and went away when I switched
to the radeon drivers.

In your case, since it apparently happens without X running, the only
candidates I can think of are background (daemon-like) processes or the
kernel itself.

> Is there a way to free that memory without having to reboot?

Depends what process(es) is/are using it.

If it's a background daemon, restart that daemon.

If it's the kernel, probably not, but it would be worth reporting the
problem as a bug against the kernel.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi

[ray]

> Reasoning: there was an issue reported that it searched IIRC /dev/sdc
> but not /dev/sdc1 (appropriate for a partitioned stick).
> 
> Cheers,
> David.

I had tried inserting the stick (before I read your post), but did not know to 
check VC4.  Now when I check it, it is streaming errors continuously, each 
incrementing time.

I get an error about the mirror being bad.  I have tried several and it is the 
same error.  I think it is because I have not actually loaded iwlwifi and it is 
not finding any.

So I pulled the plug on that installation to follow your direction.  I get a 
new error window:
GNU GRUB version 2.02~beta2-26

When anything is selected for installation:

error: invalid sector size 0.
error: module 'gfxmenu' isn't loaded.

I am guessing this is due to the installation formating being incomplete.  At 
least Windows isn't popping up.

Not sure where to go from here.

Re: Plymouth theme with Caps Lock indication.

[moxalt]

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:43:58 +0200, Erwan David  wrote:

>   Hello,
> 
> I hava a laptop with encrytped FS, thus at boot I must enter the
> decryption password. However, the keyboard does not have a led for
> caps-lock indication, so I am looking for a way to see it at this very
> early stage (ie before boot). Is there a plymouth theme with this
> indication ?
> 
> Thank you

I don't think so. Just make sure you don't accidentally turn on caps lock when
entering your decryption password. Is that such a problem? At worst, you'll
have to retype it.

Re: print .tex or .dvi or .ps from Windows

[Don Armstrong]

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
> But is the PDF file I produce with whatever is in Jessie likely to be
> readable by Windows XP or Vista?

Yes, assuming they have installed acrobat reader (or similar), which is
basically a requirement.

-- 
Don Armstrong  http://www.donarmstrong.com

The attackers hadn't simply robbed the bank. They had carried off
everything portable, including the security cameras, the carpets, the
chairs, and the light and plumbing fixtures. The conspirators had
deliberately punished the bank, for reasons best known to themselves,
or to their unknown controllers. They had superglued doors and
shattered windows, severed power and communications cables, poured
stinking toxins into the wallspaces, and concreted all of the sinks
and drains. In eight minutes, sixty people had ruined the building so
thoroughly that it had to be condemned and later demolished.
 -- Bruce Sterling, _Distraction_ p4

Re: Latinoware 2015

[Marcos Antonio Rufino do Egito]

Estou indo para Latinoware, estou em guarulhos, vou palestrar dia 15 e
fazer uma oficina dia 16, posso ajudar nos horários que estiver livre.

Abraços
Em 13/10/2015 08:57, "Leonardo Rocha"  escreveu:

> On 12-10-2015 11:45, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 01:39:18AM -0300, Tobias Sette wrote:
>
> Haverá alguma atividade do grupo? Precisam de voluntários?
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/br/2015/MiniDebconfLatinoware
>
> Galera, alguma dica de qual programa utilizar para abrir arquivo do tipo
> iCal no GNU/Linux (Debian 8)? Estou com a programação do latinoware aqui
> mas não acho nada bacana pra visualiza-la.
>
> Agradeço.
>
> --
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> * Analista de Sistemas *
> * GPG ID: 7E7D1FE2*
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>

Re: Túnel ssh sobre proxy 8080 [SOLUCIONADO]

[Javier ArgentinaBBAR]

El día 6 de octubre de 2015, 12:23, Javier ArgentinaBBAR
 escribió:
> Estimados:
>
> Ya se me han quemado todos los papeles, porque evidentemente no
> entiendo cómo funciona el acceso remoto a través de un túnel.
>
> El tema es así:
>
> En mi casa tengo enrutador EEE.228.155.7 que escucha en el puerto 22.
> Debido a las pruebas que realicé con corkscrew también lo tengo
> escuchando en 443, 80 y 8080, redirigiendo el tráfico al puerto 22 de
> la máquina servidor 192.168.1.150.
> Desde cualquier máquina conectada a internet, incluido celulares por
> datos, puedo acceder en forma remota al puerto 22 del servidor, en
> cualquiera de los cuatro puertos que indiqué: 22, 443, 80 y 8080.
> Hasta acá, todo bien.
>
> En mi trabajo, tengo un proxy que me boquea todo lo que no salga por 8080.
> Los datos de dicho servidor son:
>
> $ nmap -v -sT  PPP.16.128.205
> Starting Nmap 6.47 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2015-10-06 11:09 ART
> Initiating Ping Scan at 11:09
> Scanning PPP.16.128.205 [2 ports]
> Completed Ping Scan at 11:09, 1.20s elapsed (1 total hosts)
> Initiating Parallel DNS resolution of 1 host. at 11:09
> Completed Parallel DNS resolution of 1 host. at 11:09, 0.00s elapsed
> Initiating Connect Scan at 11:09
> Scanning proxy.trabajo.com (PPP.16.128.205) [1000 ports]
> Discovered open port 8080/tcp on PPP.16.128.205
> Discovered open port 80/tcp on PPP.16.128.205
> Completed Connect Scan at 11:10, 4.00s elapsed (1000 total ports)
> Nmap scan report for proxy.trabajo.com (PPP.16.128.205)
> Host is up (0.00046s latency).
> Not shown: 998 filtered ports
> PORT STATE SERVICE
> 80/tcp   open  http
> 8080/tcp open  http-proxy
> Read data files from: /usr/bin/../share/nmap
> Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 5.29 seconds
>
> Mi intención es utilizar un túnel para poder acceder a mi servidor, y
> de allí poder hacer varias cosas, como ser tranferir archivos y
> acceder a páginas que tengo restringidas por el proxy.
>
> Hasta ahora, no he dado en la tecla, pues con
> 1) corkscrew: No puedo acceder al 443 y por ende no funciona.
> 2) ssh -L 22:localhost:8080  javier@EEE.228.155.7: Tampoco funciona, y
> no sé por qué; me supera.
> 3) sshuttle: Tampoco pude hacerlo funcionar.
> 4) httptunnel: La redirección con
> # htc -F 1234 --no-daemon EEE.228.155.7:8080
> se inicia, pero cuando intento conectar mediante
> $ ssh -p 1234 javier@localhost
> termino con un 'ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer'.
>
> Si alguno me puede guiar dónde buscar respuestas, se lo agradezco.
>
> JAP


Para empezar, MUCHAS GRACIAS A TODOS.

Pude por fin conectarme a través del proxy de la empresa en forma
transparente al servidor de mi casa.
Y Lo hice con el programa proxytunnel (http://proxytunnel.sourceforge.net/)
(Dato curioso: el proxy de la empresa bloquea esa dirección para
navegar, algo estúpido si se considera que se puede levantar a través
de la página "caché" de Google).

Paso a comentar cómo lo hice.

Debí crear mi ~/.ssh/config con los datos de mi servidor proxy:

-
# ~/.ssh/config
Host *
ProtocolKeepAlives 30
ProxyCommand /usr/bin/proxytunnel -p PPP.16.128.205:8080 -P
mi_usuario_proxy:mi_clave -d %h:%p -v
-

Donde:
PPP.16.128.205:8080 -> dirección y puerto de escucha del proxy de la empresa.
mi_usuario_proxy:mi_clave -> usuario y contraseña asignadas.

Luego, desde una terminal para conectarme con mi casa en EEE.228.155.7:443:

-
javier@term55:~$ ssh EEE.228.155.7 -p 443
Connected to PPP.16.128.205:8080 (local proxy)

Tunneling to EEE.228.155.7:443 (destination)
Communication with local proxy:
 -> CONNECT EEE.228.155.7:443 HTTP/1.1
 -> Host: EEE.228.155.7:443
 -> Proxy-Authorization: Basic ==
 -> Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive
 <- HTTP/1.1 200 Connection established
 <- Via: 1.1 PROXYSERVER
 <- Connection: Keep-Alive
 <- Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive

Tunnel established.
The authenticity of host '[EEE.228.155.7]:443 ()' can't be established.
ECDSA key fingerprint is  .
Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
Warning: Permanently added '[EEE.228.155.7]:443' (ECDSA) to the list
of known hosts.
javier@EEE.228.155.7's password:

The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software;
the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.

Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
permitted by applicable law.
Last login: Mon Oct 12 20:03:15 2015
javier@bbar:~$ ls
2015 Fotos  Compartido  Documentos  Garmin   Imagen_24.png  Juegos
 PDFrouter  TMP
CD-Musica   CopyDescargas   Fotos   ISO
Papyre  Programas  Stellarium
javier@bbar:~$ exit
logout
Connection to EEE.228.155.7 closed.
Tunnel received signal 1. Ignoring signal.

Re: flawfinder1.31

[Alex Vong]

Hi Aisha,

You are sending to the wrong mailing list indeed. The correct list is
.

Regarding your question, I think
 should help. Since
I am using Debian but not Mint, I cannot really test those
instructions. Feel to ask if you don't understand anything.

Cheers,
Alex

On 13/10/2015, Aisha Ibrahim  wrote:
> hello
> my name is aisha ibrahim am doing my thesis on finding vulnerability on
> codes,pls i cant install flawfinder on my linux mint i need help and
> guide.pls
>
> i will be very happy if my request is granted
> thanks
>
>
> --
>
>
> *Regards,Aisha Abdullahi Ibrahim*
>
> *Msc Computer Science Student*
>
> *Faculty of computer Science and Information Technology*
> *Bayero University Kano, Nigeria*
>

Re: [HS] bc (pas la banque)

[Daniel Caillibaud]

Salut,

Pour les lents à la comprenette comme moi, je rajoute mon grain de sel ;-)

Le 09/10/15 à 14:48, François  a écrit :

F> On Fri, Oct 09, 2015 at 03:24:22AM +0200, Alexandre Hoïde wrote:
F> >   bc, que j'invoquai pour la conversion de l'apostrophe de Bernard
F> > Schoenacker, est taquin ! Par exemple, je lui disais :
F> > 
F> > $ echo "ibase=16; obase=8; 92" | bc
F> > 
F> > et il me répondait « 222 ». Je lui répondais « Merci » et on se
F> > s'entendait bien. Mais comme je m'emmerdais et que j'avais encore envie
F> > de discuter, je lui tins à peu près ce langage :
F> > 
F> > $ echo "ibase=8; obase=10; 222" | bc
F> > 
F> > à quoi il répondit « 222 ». « Hé Monsieur du bc, que vous êtes drôle !
F> > Que vous me semblez rigolo » lui répondis-je. Et il me fallut un peu de
F> > temps pour comprendre que 10, en base 8, c'est 8.

Je comprenais qu'Alexandre disait que le nombre 10 s'écrivait "8" en base 8 
(alors que l'on a
que les symbole de 0 à 7 dispos), et je ne voyais pas le rapport.

F> >   Voilà ! J'ai pensé que cette leçon valait bien un message, sans
F> > doute. Votre serviteur, honteux et confus, a bien bc dans son estime.
F> 
F> Et il dit "Mon bon monsieur, apprenez qu'en modifiant obase avant
F> ibase, vous éviterez bien des soucis", cette leçon vaut bien un
F> message sans doute.

Il a fallu le message de François pour comprendre que le obase=10 mis après 
ibase=8 voulait
dire que l'on voulait une sortie en base 8, et qu'Alexandre voulais dire 
initialement que
l'écriture "10" en base 8 valait le nombre 8.

-- 
Daniel

Il existe 10 types de gens, ceux qui comprennent le binaire et les autres.

Re: [HS] recherche interface web wysiwyg

[Daniel Caillibaud]

Le 13/10/15 à 11:37, honeyshell  a écrit :

H> Bonjour,
H> 
H> Je recherche une alternative libre pour la création de site web en page
H> statique du style wix.com.
H> La cible ne programme pas. C'est vraiment dans l'esprit de WordPress, mais
H> pour un site statique. Aussi simple (pas de drupal ou joomla svp). Il faut
H> que ce soit intuitif comme sur wix.com.
H> 
H> merci d'avance pour vos suggestions :-)

Il y a plein de CMS qui font de l'édition en ligne (cliquer sur un picto à coté 
d'un paragraphe
pour le modifier), mais c'est pas du statique (il faut faire tourner le CMS avec
php|java|ruby|python|etc.).

Sinon, un peu à coté mais https://github.com/getpelican/pelican transforme du
markdown en html en ajoutant template et menu, mais ça demande de relancer une 
compilation du
html après chaque modif.

Pour répondre à la demande il faudrait un éditeur wysiwyg pour markdown, pas 
sûr que ça existe
(mais un plugin gedit pour avoir une coloration et une prévisualisation
https://github.com/jpfleury/gedit-markdown).

L'info interessera peut-être d'autres lecteur de ce fil.

-- 
Daniel

Je désire être incinéré et je veux que 10% de mes cendres soient 
versées a mon impresario.
Groucho Marx

Re: Web Kvm manager

[Omar Pacheco]

¿Hombre y que pasa con el virtmanager?

El 12 de octubre de 2015, 11:52, Edward Villarroel (EDD) <
edward.villarr...@gmail.com> escribió:

> buenos dias comunidad les escribo en esta oportunidad por que ando
> buscando usa solucion parecida a webmin
>
>
> pero en este caso para gestionar maquinas virtuales desde el explorador
>
>
> Edward Villarroel:  @Agentedd
>
>


-- 
Saludos,

*Omar Daniel Pacheco Díaz.*

Re: New User

[Alex Vong]

Please use "reply to all" so you are replying to the mailing list as
well, and others could help you.

To test if Debian supports your hardware, I personally would "burn" a
live CD 

and boot with it, and see if everything works fine.

You can also "burn" a live usb using that CD image. You can ask me if
you don't know how to do it.

As a rule of thumb, if your hardware is not too new, Debian should support it.

On 13/10/2015, Hammad Khan  wrote:
> How can I check if my hardware is comparable with Linux or not and from
> where I can get drivers for my laptop
> On Oct 13, 2015 6:45 AM, "Alex Vong"  wrote:
>
>> Hi Hammad,
>>
>> I am CC-ing the Debian user mailing list since you may get more help
>> there from experienced user. Please use REPLY-ALL in Gmail to reply to
>> the mailing list as well.
>>
>> Well, I think I was in a similar situation to you. Last Christmas, I
>> finally got rid of Microsoft Windows and switched to GNU/Linux. I was
>> able to do that because I got a long holiday in Christmas, so I could
>> take my time to learn new things.
>>
>> So. Congratulations!
>>
>> You are right that mastering terminal is one of the most important
>> things. So I am going to introduce to you now. In the following basic
>> tutorial, keyboard's keys are enclosed by [[ ]] and $ is the prompt of
>> the terminal which is NOT part of the command.
>>
>> The first thing you should know is how you terminate a command. Well,
>> it is easy, you press [[ENTER]]. So let's try the following command:
>>
>> $ printf "hello, world\n"
>> hello, world
>>
>> Let's look at the structure of it. There is really two parts, printf
>> and "hello, world\n". They are separated by space. printf is the
>> command you try to run and "hello, world\n" is the argument given to
>> it. In general, a command can take any number of arguments, including
>> no arguments.
>>
>> Here is an example of giving a command 3 arguments:
>>
>> $ ls -a -h -l
>> LOTS OF STUFF PRINTED...
>>
>> Now, you KNOW the basic shell syntax! Commands are terminated by
>> [ENTER] (aka newline character), and arguments are separated by
>> spaces. So we write the following to denote the generic case for a
>> command with n arguments:
>>
>> [COMMAND] [ARG_1] [ARG_2] ... [ARG_N]
>>
>> We are about to finish, one more thing though. What if your argument
>> contains spaces? Since the shell "separates" ("tokenize" is the more
>> technical term) the arguments by spaces, your argument cannot contain
>> spaces. Well, this is resolved by quoting. Remember in the first
>> example, we have
>>
>> $ printf "hello, world\n"
>> hello, world
>>
>> Note that "hello, world\n" contains a space but it is treated as a
>> single argument. It is because we enclosed hello, world by " ".
>>
>> Well, if you replace double-quote with single-quote, the result will
>> be the same:
>>
>> $ printf 'hello, world\n'
>> hello, world
>>
>> But of course, they are different in general. For instance, you need
>> to single-quote a double-quote and double-quote a single-quote:
>>
>> $ printf 'lots of double-quotes """\n'
>> lots of double-quotes """
>>
>> and:
>>
>> $ printf "lots of single-quotes '''\n"
>> lots of single-quotes '''
>>
>> Well, finding the rest of the difference is left as an exercise...
>>
>> For tutorial, 
>> looks fine to me. But I personally do not learn using terminal this
>> way. I learn by searching on the Internet what I want to do and what I
>> do not understand. That way, you will slowly build up your knowledge.
>>
>> For reference, the Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide
>>  is really good, but it is
>> quite advanced thought...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alex
>>
>> On 13/10/2015, Hammad Khan  wrote:
>> > Thnx Alex I also think about Debian.but how can I master terminal means
>> > commons line
>> > On Oct 12, 2015 1:12 PM, "Alex Vong"  wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Hammad,
>> >>
>> >> Is Kali a distribution? I haven't tried using it so I don't know what
>> >> is your problem? Have you chosen any distribution yet? If you haven't,
>> >> I suggest Debian, because I am using it and I can help if you
>> >> encounter any problems.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Alex
>> >>
>> >> On 12/10/2015, Hammad Khan  wrote:
>> >> > failed to start open vulnerability assessment system scanner daemon
>> >> > in
>> >> kali
>> >> > 2.0
>> >> >
>> >> > Plz anybody can guide.I see this msg after installation when I start
>> >> > virtual machine .I am using VMware workstation for virtualization.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Oct 12, 2015 12:36 AM, "Hammad Khan" 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hy Alex
>> >> >>   Thnx for ur guide. I want to know any sources or way to
>> >> >> master
>> >> 

Re: print .tex or .dvi or .ps from Windows

[rlharris]

On Tue, October 13, 2015 7:26 am, Joseph Loo wrote:
> have you tried installing
> ghostscript on your windows machine? It will convert ps and possibly pdf to
> pcl or some other printers they have drivers for.

Ghostscript is one of the first solutions which occurred to me.  I found a
HOWTO, but it was too complex to give to my associate to follow.

And I found an article written about ten years ago which discussed the
problem of getting high-quality output when converting Postscript; much
depends upon the fonts used (scalable versus bit-mapped).  The discussion
was a bit deep, and, all things considered, it appeared to me that PDF
might be a better solution for my associate.  Also, most people know how
to read a PDF document, but may have difficulty sending a Postscript
document to the virtual Ghostscript printer; I myself am not sure how it
is done in Windows.

Russ

Re: Tentatives possible réussies attaque serveur

[andre_debian]

On Sunday 11 October 2015 10:08:35 Sylvain L. Sauvage wrote:
> À moins que celui qui a écrit le fichier PHP moisi soit aussi 
> celui qui a écrit le serveur  HTTP

> Le vendredi 9 octobre 2015, 23:07:45 andré a écrit :
> > ça veut dire quoi "écrire le serveur HTTP" ?

>   Concevoir, programmer. La même chose que «écrire un script» :
C'est assez flou.
HTTP n'est pas un langage en soit, c'est un protocole de 
communication, une syntaxe pour formuler des requêtes. 
On l'utilise via un vrai langage de programmation, le PHP ou le C, 
par exemple. 

> Que ce membre lise bien les réponses qui lui sont faites 
> est  tout aussi très important :

Alors le dialogue est aussi (cra)moisi :-)

Ma question était la suivante :
comment vérifier que les logs d'Apache disant "possible exploit",
soit une attaque, intrusion réussies ?
càd vérifier si les codes de sécurité fonctionne ?

Ma serrure blindée peut avoir résistée ou non,
je peux le constater.

Mais bon, pas grave, je clos le sujet.

André

Re: New User

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 13 October 2015 16:42:49 Alex Vong wrote:
> Please use "reply to all" so you are replying to the mailing list as
> well, and others could help you.

I tried to read this and follow what it was about, and perhaps try to help.  
But top-posting, in a thread, of which I haven't seen the beginning, made it 
impossible.

Lisi

Graphical tools for traffic analysis

[Daniel Bareiro]

Hi all!

I'd like to know your experience based on these tools and what you can
recommend me.

Specifically I would like some sort of web tool to interact with Squid
and, moreover, have some graphical tool for graphics of bandwidth
discriminated by protocol (POP, IMAP, HTTP, etc).

Any recommendations will be well received.


Thanks in advance.

Best regards,
Daniel



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Re: Putting apt-listchanges and dpkg output in mail sent by unattended-upgrades

[Ondřej Grover]

>
> The most "Debian-proper" way? I'm not really sure- I would edit the script
> myself and just keep that as the local version. The only problem is that
> newer
> versions of the package would probably overwrite it- but they may offer a
> 'local version of config' menu like GRUB and libpolkit do.

That happens for conffiles which are files under /etc or are listed in
debian/conffiles in the deb archive. So that would again mean I'd have to
modify the package

> Rolling your own package seems a bit overkill for what you're trying to do.
>
It wouldn't be an overkill if there was a simple way to manage a local
repository and packages with custom modifications. I have looked around and
it didn't seem that straight-forward. Is there some helper tool perhaps?

Re: unlisted mirrors & non-gui installation

[Brian]

On Tue 13 Oct 2015 at 12:05:36 -0500, Adrian O'Dell wrote:

> On 10/13/2015 10:19 AM, Brian wrote:
> >On Mon 12 Oct 2015 at 23:07:35 -0500, Adrian O'Dell wrote:
> >
> >>Previously during install, when selecting which Mirror to use, one could
> >>press the up arrow and get a line to input a custom mirror location, such as
> >>one kept locally. This feature seems to have been removed from Debian8
> >>installer.
> >The last time I looked you go to the top of the list for this.
> 
> Yes, the last time you looked was probably Debian7. I was fully expecting to
> see it on Debian8.

The point I was making is that the facility to provide your own mirror
*is* there. On a Jessie i386 installer at least.

Cas désespéré : carte son muette mais son sur vu-mètre de pulseaudio

[jeanbaptiste.g...@gmail.com]

Bonjour à tous,

Je n'ai pas vraiment pour habitude de poster des questions sur la liste,
même si je la lis souvent et si je peux y répondre, parfois j'essaie. Mais
là, je suis dans une impasse et je dois reconnaître que Google ne m'a pas
aidé.

J'ai un tout nouveau laptop dell Inspiron 5559 (très très content), il
fonctionnait sous Windows 10, et lors du premier démarrage j'avais un joli
son. Etant pas fan du tout de la fenêtre, j'ai tout viré et mis une Debian.

Tout se passe bien, mais ... aucun son.

Je précise, si je lis un son avec rythmbox ou dans mon navigateur, le
vu-mètre bouge dans pavucontrol, mais rien ne sort.

Autre fait étrange, dans pavucontrol / Périphérique de sortie / Port, j'ai :
 - Speakers
 - Sortie analogique
 - Casque analogique (Unplugged)

Si je branche un casque, la dernière passe en plugged in, si je débranche
cela revient sur speaker. ça me parait super top, sauf que je n'ai aucun
son quelque soit le "port" utilisé.

Petite précision, le périphérique d'entrée semble fonctionner, si je parle,
le vu-mètre réagit bien à ma voix.

Enfin aucun bouton "sourdine" n'est actif, les volumes sont à plus de 40%
(testé aussi à 100% sans effet).


Via alsa :
 - alsamixer fonctionne bien et "détecte" les différentes cartes, je peux
paramètrer les "volumes" aucun n'est à MM (muet).
 - lancement de la lecture avec aplay sur différents device en sortie :
   - pour pulse, ça ne sort aucun son, mais la commande s'exécute
correctement
   - pour sysdefault, la commande "freeze" au Ctrl+c j'obtiens :
$ aplay -D sysdefault:CARD=PCH /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
Lecture WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16 bit
Little Endian, Fréquence 48000 Hz, Mono
^CInterrompu par le signal Interrompre...
aplay: pcm_write:1939: erreur en écriture: Appel système interrompu

Franchement et sincèrement je suis un peu dépité, et si une âme charitable
pouvait m'aider Merci d'avance.



Voici quelques éléments techniques si vous pouviez m'orienter sur les
opérations possibles pour résoudre ce problème.
$ aplay -l
 Liste des Périphériques Matériels PLAYBACK 
carte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], périphérique 0: ALC3234 Analog [ALC3234
Analog]
  Sous-périphériques: 1/1
  Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0
carte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], périphérique 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Sous-périphériques: 1/1
  Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0

$ lspci | grep -i audio
00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Device 9d70 (rev 21)

$ lsmod | grep snd
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 45118  1
snd_hda_codec_realtek67127  1
snd_hda_codec_generic63181  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_intel  26327  3
snd_hda_controller 26646  1 snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_codec 104463  5
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
snd_hwdep  13148  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm88662  4
snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
snd_timer  26614  1 snd_pcm
snd65244  14
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_pcm,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel
soundcore  13026  2 snd,snd_hda_codec

$ lshw
  *-multimedia
 description: Audio device
 produit: Intel Corporation
 fabriquant: Intel Corporation
 identifiant matériel: 1f.3
 information bus: pci@:00:1f.3
 version: 21
 bits: 64 bits
 horloge: 33MHz
 fonctionnalités: pm msi bus_master cap_list
 configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=32
 ressources: irq:141 mémoire:d122-d1223fff
mémoire:d120-d120
*-serial NON-RÉCLAMÉ

$ aplay -L
default
Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server
null
Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
pulse
PulseAudio Sound Server
sysdefault:CARD=PCH
HDA Intel PCH, ALC3234 Analog
Default Audio Device
front:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC3234 Analog
Front speakers
surround21:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC3234 Analog
2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers
surround40:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC3234 Analog
4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC3234 Analog
4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC3234 Analog
5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC3234 Analog
5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC3234 Analog
7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
HDMI Audio Output
dmix:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC3234 Analog
Direct sample mixing device

Re: Cas désespéré : carte son muette mais son sur vu-mètre de pulseaudio

[Bernard Schoenacker]

Le Tue, 13 Oct 2015 18:08:13 +0200,
"jeanbaptiste.g...@gmail.com"  a écrit :

> Bonjour à tous,
> 
> Je n'ai pas vraiment pour habitude de poster des questions sur la
> liste, même si je la lis souvent et si je peux y répondre, parfois
> j'essaie. Mais là, je suis dans une impasse et je dois reconnaître
> que Google ne m'a pas aidé.
> 
> J'ai un tout nouveau laptop dell Inspiron 5559 (très très content), il
> fonctionnait sous Windows 10, et lors du premier démarrage j'avais un
> joli son. Etant pas fan du tout de la fenêtre, j'ai tout viré et mis
> une Debian.
> 
> Tout se passe bien, mais ... aucun son.
> 
> Je précise, si je lis un son avec rythmbox ou dans mon navigateur, le
> vu-mètre bouge dans pavucontrol, mais rien ne sort.
> 
> Autre fait étrange, dans pavucontrol / Périphérique de sortie / Port,
> j'ai :
>  - Speakers
>  - Sortie analogique
>  - Casque analogique (Unplugged)
> 
> Si je branche un casque, la dernière passe en plugged in, si je
> débranche cela revient sur speaker. ça me parait super top, sauf que
> je n'ai aucun son quelque soit le "port" utilisé.
> 
> Petite précision, le périphérique d'entrée semble fonctionner, si je
> parle, le vu-mètre réagit bien à ma voix.
> 
> Enfin aucun bouton "sourdine" n'est actif, les volumes sont à plus de
> 40% (testé aussi à 100% sans effet).
> 
> 
> Via alsa :
>  - alsamixer fonctionne bien et "détecte" les différentes cartes, je
> peux paramètrer les "volumes" aucun n'est à MM (muet).
>  - lancement de la lecture avec aplay sur différents device en
> sortie :
>- pour pulse, ça ne sort aucun son, mais la commande s'exécute
> correctement
>- pour sysdefault, la commande "freeze" au Ctrl+c j'obtiens :
> $ aplay -D sysdefault:CARD=PCH /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
> Lecture WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16 bit
> Little Endian, Fréquence 48000 Hz, Mono
> ^CInterrompu par le signal Interrompre...
> aplay: pcm_write:1939: erreur en écriture: Appel système interrompu
> 
> Franchement et sincèrement je suis un peu dépité, et si une âme
> charitable pouvait m'aider Merci d'avance.
> 
> 
> 
> Voici quelques éléments techniques si vous pouviez m'orienter sur les
> opérations possibles pour résoudre ce problème.
> $ aplay -l
>  Liste des Périphériques Matériels PLAYBACK 
> carte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], périphérique 0: ALC3234 Analog [ALC3234
> Analog]
>   Sous-périphériques: 1/1
>   Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0
> carte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], périphérique 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
>   Sous-périphériques: 1/1
>   Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0
> 
> $ lspci | grep -i audio
> 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Device 9d70 (rev 21)
> 
> $ lsmod | grep snd
> snd_hda_codec_hdmi 45118  1
> snd_hda_codec_realtek67127  1
> snd_hda_codec_generic63181  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
> snd_hda_intel  26327  3
> snd_hda_controller 26646  1 snd_hda_intel
> snd_hda_codec 104463  5
> snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
> snd_hwdep  13148  1 snd_hda_codec
> snd_pcm88662  4
> snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
> snd_timer  26614  1 snd_pcm
> snd65244  14
> snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_pcm,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel
> soundcore  13026  2 snd,snd_hda_codec
> 
> $ lshw
>   *-multimedia
>  description: Audio device
>  produit: Intel Corporation
>  fabriquant: Intel Corporation
>  identifiant matériel: 1f.3
>  information bus: pci@:00:1f.3
>  version: 21
>  bits: 64 bits
>  horloge: 33MHz
>  fonctionnalités: pm msi bus_master cap_list
>  configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=32
>  ressources: irq:141 mémoire:d122-d1223fff
> mémoire:d120-d120
> *-serial NON-RÉCLAMÉ
> 
> $ aplay -L
> default
> Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server
> null
> Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
> pulse
> PulseAudio Sound Server
> sysdefault:CARD=PCH
> HDA Intel PCH, ALC3234 Analog
> Default Audio Device
> front:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
> HDA Intel PCH, ALC3234 Analog
> Front speakers
> surround21:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
> HDA Intel PCH, ALC3234 Analog
> 2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers
> surround40:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
> HDA Intel PCH, ALC3234 Analog
> 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
> surround41:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
> HDA Intel PCH, ALC3234 Analog
> 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
> surround50:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
> HDA Intel PCH, ALC3234 Analog
> 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
> surround51:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
> HDA Intel PCH, ALC3234 Analog
> 5.1 

Re: unlisted mirrors & non-gui installation

[Adrian O'Dell]

Yes, the last time you looked was probably Debian7. I was fully 
expecting to see it on Debian8.


On 10/13/2015 10:19 AM, Brian wrote:

On Mon 12 Oct 2015 at 23:07:35 -0500, Adrian O'Dell wrote:


Previously during install, when selecting which Mirror to use, one could
press the up arrow and get a line to input a custom mirror location, such as
one kept locally. This feature seems to have been removed from Debian8
installer.

The last time I looked you go to the top of the list for this.

Re: Cas désespéré : carte son muette mais son sur vu-mètre de pulseaudio

[Christophe]

Hello,

Le 13/10/2015 18:08, jeanbaptiste.g...@gmail.com a écrit :


Voici quelques éléments techniques si vous pouviez m'orienter sur les
opérations possibles pour résoudre ce problème.
$ aplay -l
 Liste des Périphériques Matériels PLAYBACK 
carte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], périphérique 0: ALC3234 Analog [ALC3234
Analog]
   Sous-périphériques: 1/1
   Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0
carte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], périphérique 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
   Sous-périphériques: 1/1
   Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0

snd_hda_codec_hdmi 45118  1


Est-ce que à tout hasard, le son ne sortirait pas par la sortie HDMI ?

Ma configuration n'est pas tout à fait similaire , mais pour ma part, en 
utilisant "pavucontrol", et l'onglet "Configuration", j'ai deux items :

- HDA NVidia (configuré sur Eteint)
- Audio Interne (configuré en "Duplex stéréo analogique").

De mémoire les deux n'ont jamais fonctionné en même temps.

En espérant que ça aide.

Christophe.

Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

[Brian]

On Mon 12 Oct 2015 at 23:36:46 -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> 
> >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1081 <
> 
> >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1081
> 
> 
> Looks like it was mailed from MS Windows.  Maybe mailed from a Windows OS
> with a virus.  Do you run Windows too?

I like the virus touch. It's aways good to make people sit up and take
interest. Makes everything more believable.

The three headers you quote are in the body of the email. You can put
anything you want there. Even forgeries.