Fedora has a boot option that forces the installer to recognize a drive as GPT, can this be added to Debian?

[Indo Neh]

There is a boot option in Fedora 'inst.gpt' which forces the Fedora 26
Anaconda installer to recognize a drive as a GPT drive for the purposes of
the Anaconda installer setting up the drive with a GPT partition table.

https://rhinstaller.github.io/anaconda/boot-options.html#inst-gpt

Could this somehow be added to the Debian installer as this option is
useful for anyone who wants to set up a drive on a BIOS-based system as a
GPT drive without having to manually partition the drive after manually
setting it as GPT? It makes the automated drive setup (e.g. encrypted LVM
setup) very easy and painless.

I didn't realise people would get so stuck on names, by the 2nd email it
should have been obvious I meant this about Debian not Ubuntu.

Re: how to enable trim for an external encrypted SSD?

[Joerg Desch]

Am Tue, 07 Nov 2017 01:00:54 +0500 schrieb Alexander V. Makartsev:

> I don't use TRIM feature on my systems because of that, and hope for a
> firmware of modern SSD will manage everything automatically. Am I wrong?

I've used a ext4 formatted, unencrypted (!) 64GB SanDisk Extreme USB 3.0 
thumbdrive together with Unison. I sync a collection of documentation, 
some application configurations and a bunch of git repositories to it. 
The sync was done 4-5 days a week. The amount of changes was less than 
5MB a day.

IMO SanDisk is a trustful company with products of high quality. But the 
thumbdrive has not even lasted a year!

By the way... hdparm reports that the thumbdrive supports TRIM, but I was 
never able to use it!

So much for the topic "the firmware will do that". ;-)

Re: how to enable trim for an external encrypted SSD?

[Joerg Desch]

Am Mon, 06 Nov 2017 14:28:32 +0100 schrieb Christian Seiler:

> But all that doesn't really help you if the underlying LUKS container
> isn't opened with the discard option set. And as far as I know there is
> no possibility of tagging a LUKS container with that option, you must
> always supply that option to the cryptsetup command (which is done
> implicitly via /etc/crypttab).

Thanks for your detailed and extensive answer. That's exactly the answer 
I was afraid of. ;-)

So I will add an entry to the /etc/crypttab and hope that fstrim will do 
it's job. All system without a modified crypttab should mount the device 
but fstrim will fail. I think I can live with that solution.


> You could ask the LUKS developers to include an additional flag in their
> headers that allows you to specify that this volume should be opened
> with discards allowed by default

That is a good idea. I think I will write an ticket for that.

Thanks again.

Configuring a TLS tunnel for an HTTP browser.

[peter]

Hi,

I'm interested to make a tunnel to allow a local HTTP browser to 
connect to any remote HTTPS server.  Appears to be possible using 
Apache.  I've found several Web pages about  proxy service for local 
HTTPS servers and remote browsers but that's not my interest. Can 
anyone cite helpful documentation? 

Thanks, ... Peter E.

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Re: Not really OffTopic - was {Re: Fedora has a boot option that forces the installer to recognize a drive as GPT, can this be added to Ubiquity/Debian?}

[Michael Stone]

On November 6, 2017 7:12:37 PM EST, Richard Owlett  wrote:
>Why isn't query by user of a derivative [Ununtu] ask parent distro 
>[Debian] suggest a feature.

Because ubuntu has its own installer. Since an end user typically 
doesn't know what parts of a derivative are straight from upstream and 
which aren't, it makes sense to ask the questions on a support forum for 
the derivative distribution and let their process raise things up as 
appropriate.

Mike Stone

Re: how to enable trim for an external encrypted SSD?

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Tue, 07 Nov 2017, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
> TRIM will erase blocks marked as deleted beforehand even if they are not

Not on any SSD that is not an utter piece of trash.

TRIM marks pages as unused for the garbage collector, and that's it.  On
SSDs that return all-zeroes for TRIMMed sectors, it likely also flushes
the unused-blocks journal to FLASH for security reasons.

It saves on FLASH wear because the SSD will *not* copy unused data
elsewhere in order to free up an entire erase block.

The garbage collector only runs in the background, unless the SSD is out
of free pages (which should *never* happen on any non-joke SSD, due to
enforced overprovisioned space).

-- 
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Re: Not really OffTopic

[Tom Furie]

On Mon, Nov 06, 2017 at 06:12:37PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
 
> Why isn't query by user of a derivative [Ununtu] ask parent distro [Debian]
> suggest a feature.
> 
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Census states:
> "Ubuntu is a Debian derivative aimed at popularizing and polishing Linux."

Ubuntu may have originated as a Debian derivative, there is now so much
difference between them I can't see how the claim can still stand.

Cheers,
Tom

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Re: Not really OffTopic - was {Re: Fedora has a boot option that forces the installer to recognize a drive as GPT, can this be added to Ubiquity/Debian?}

[Don Armstrong]

On Mon, 06 Nov 2017, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Why isn't query by user of a derivative [Ununtu] ask parent distro [Debian]
> suggest a feature.

Ubuntu uses Ubiquity. Debian does not.

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Not really OffTopic - was {Re: Fedora has a boot option that forces the installer to recognize a drive as GPT, can this be added to Ubiquity/Debian?}

[Richard Owlett]

On 11/06/2017 03:26 PM, David Wright wrote:

(Copied to the OP.)

On Mon 06 Nov 2017 at 20:34:38 (+), Tom Furie wrote:

On Mon, Nov 06, 2017 at 08:04:40PM +, Indo Neh wrote:

There is a boot option in Fedora 'inst.gpt' which forces the Fedora 26



Could this somehow be added to Ubiquity as this option is useful for anyone


Wasn't the reply you received yesterday sufficient? You'll get on a lot
better if you ask Ubuntu related questions on the Ubuntu channels.


Yes, but the OP might not be subscribed, and expect a direct reply (now sent).

Cheers,
David.




Why isn't query by user of a derivative [Ununtu] ask parent distro 
[Debian] suggest a feature.



https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Census states:
"Ubuntu is a Debian derivative aimed at popularizing and polishing Linux."

Re: how to enable trim for an external encrypted SSD?

[Alexander V. Makartsev]

On 07.11.2017 03:01, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 07, 2017 at 02:20:56AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
>> As I know SSDs are different in a way HDDs write their data. HDDs write
>> directly to the free block and are done. SSDs on the other hand will
>> have to
>> erase free block first to get it ready for writing and then write to
>> it. This
>> is because how NAND work. It's even worse, if a destination block has
>> some data
>> on it already and there is some data needs to be written onto it,
>> then SSD will
>> copy data already written, then it will fully erase destination
>> block, then it
>> will concatenate copied data with data to be written and finally will
>> write
>> merged data to the block.
>
> This is mostly correct. The erasing is done in "erase block" size
> units (much larger than disk blocks), while writing is done in
> "pages", usually with hundreds of pages per erase block. So a 4kbyte
> write might trigger a multi-megabyte erase if there aren't erased
> pages available for writing. If an erase block has been partially
> written, a write can go to an unwritten page without any additional
> steps. In practice, most drive writes go immediately to already-erased
> blocks, with the garbage collector erasing blocks while the drive is
> idle (rather than actually reading, erasing, and writing for every
> write). The drive then keeps track of which physical address is
> associated with which logical address--that relationship changes as
> blocks are written and rewritten, and it is not the case that the data
> on the drive is physically ordered the same way it appears logically.
>
>> TRIM will erase blocks marked as deleted beforehand even if they are
>> not needed
>> for writing right now. This overhead is the reason that causes
>> increased drive
>> wear and decrease it's lifespan.
>
> No, TRIM does not cause extra erases that wear out a drive. If you
> don't TRIM blocks and mark them as unused, the garbage collector will
> still erase blocks it doesn't need yet in order to have pages
> available for future writes. (Either after the garbage collector
> decides to launch a read & rewrite cycle to consolidate free space, or
> when all the pages
> in the erase block have been rewritten to a new erase block and the
> old erase block is known to be empty) The only differences introduced
> by using TRIM is that the drive can skip the possible read & rewrite
> step, and the drive can increase the free pool so more new pages can
> be written before a garbage collection is forced. 
I still think there are scenarios where NAND ICs will suffer extra
writes, when TRIM is constantly used.
Also, can you explain what logic is behind this quote from "man 8 fstrim":
    "Running fstrim frequently, or even using mount -o discard, might
negatively
      affect  the  lifetime  of  poor-quality  SSD devices."

I think I will find my answers in this huge article on wikipedia when I
wade through it eventually, should be quite interesting read:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write_amplification

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Re: how to enable trim for an external encrypted SSD?

[Michael Stone]

On Tue, Nov 07, 2017 at 02:20:56AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:

As I know SSDs are different in a way HDDs write their data. HDDs write
directly to the free block and are done. SSDs on the other hand will have to
erase free block first to get it ready for writing and then write to it. This
is because how NAND work. It's even worse, if a destination block has some data
on it already and there is some data needs to be written onto it, then SSD will
copy data already written, then it will fully erase destination block, then it
will concatenate copied data with data to be written and finally will write
merged data to the block.


This is mostly correct. The erasing is done in "erase block" size units 
(much larger than disk blocks), while writing is done in "pages", 
usually with hundreds of pages per erase block. So a 4kbyte write might 
trigger a multi-megabyte erase if there aren't erased pages available 
for writing. If an erase block has been partially written, a write can 
go to an unwritten page without any additional steps. In practice, 
most drive writes go immediately to already-erased blocks, with the garbage 
collector erasing blocks while the drive is idle (rather than actually 
reading, erasing, and writing for every write). The drive then keeps 
track of which physical address is associated with which logical 
address--that relationship changes as blocks are written and rewritten, 
and it is not the case that the data on the drive is physically ordered 
the same way it appears logically.



TRIM will erase blocks marked as deleted beforehand even if they are not needed
for writing right now. This overhead is the reason that causes increased drive
wear and decrease it's lifespan.


No, TRIM does not cause extra erases that wear out a drive. If you don't 
TRIM blocks and mark them as unused, the garbage collector will still 
erase blocks it doesn't need yet in order to have pages available for 
future writes. (Either after the garbage collector decides to launch a 
read & rewrite cycle to consolidate free space, or when all the pages
in the erase block have been rewritten to a new erase block and the old 
erase block is known to be empty) The only differences introduced by 
using TRIM is that the drive can skip the possible read & rewrite step, 
and the drive can increase the free pool so more new pages can be 
written before a garbage collection is forced.


Mike Stone

Re: Fedora has a boot option that forces the installer to recognize a drive as GPT, can this be added to Ubiquity/Debian?

[David Wright]

(Copied to the OP.)

On Mon 06 Nov 2017 at 20:34:38 (+), Tom Furie wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 06, 2017 at 08:04:40PM +, Indo Neh wrote:
> > There is a boot option in Fedora 'inst.gpt' which forces the Fedora 26
>  
> > Could this somehow be added to Ubiquity as this option is useful for anyone
> 
> Wasn't the reply you received yesterday sufficient? You'll get on a lot
> better if you ask Ubuntu related questions on the Ubuntu channels.

Yes, but the OP might not be subscribed, and expect a direct reply (now sent).

Cheers,
David.

Re: how to enable trim for an external encrypted SSD?

[Alexander V. Makartsev]

On 07.11.2017 01:43, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 07, 2017 at 01:00:54AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
>> Now I wonder, why would anyone want to use TRIM feature on a portable
>> SSD,
>> especially on an encrypted one?
>> Isn't this feature only increases drive wear, offering next to
>> nothing as a
>> benefit in return?
>> I don't use TRIM feature on my systems because of that, and hope for
>> a firmware
>> of modern SSD will manage everything automatically. Am I wrong?
>
> TRIM should reduce, not increase, drive wear. (Since the drive knows
> that a particular block is unusued, it can write directly instead of
> having to read and rewrite an entire erase group.)
As I know SSDs are different in a way HDDs write their data. HDDs write
directly to the free block and are done. SSDs on the other hand will
have to erase free block first to get it ready for writing and then
write to it. This is because how NAND work. It's even worse, if a
destination block has some data on it already and there is some data
needs to be written onto it, then SSD will copy data already written,
then it will fully erase destination block, then it will concatenate
copied data with data to be written and finally will write merged data
to the block.
TRIM will erase blocks marked as deleted beforehand even if they are not
needed for writing right now. This overhead is the reason that causes
increased drive wear and decrease it's lifespan.

I do agree, that using fstune manually once in say half a year on a non
busy SSD could improve writing performance for some time, but using
discard or equivalent permanently in fstab is hardly worth it.

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Re: Fedora has a boot option that forces the installer to recognize a drive as GPT, can this be added to Ubiquity/Debian?

[Tom Furie]

On Mon, Nov 06, 2017 at 08:04:40PM +, Indo Neh wrote:
> There is a boot option in Fedora 'inst.gpt' which forces the Fedora 26
 
> Could this somehow be added to Ubiquity as this option is useful for anyone

Wasn't the reply you received yesterday sufficient? You'll get on a lot
better if you ask Ubuntu related questions on the Ubuntu channels.

Cheers,
Tom

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Re: how to enable trim for an external encrypted SSD?

[Michael Stone]

On Tue, Nov 07, 2017 at 01:00:54AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:

Now I wonder, why would anyone want to use TRIM feature on a portable SSD,
especially on an encrypted one?
Isn't this feature only increases drive wear, offering next to nothing as a
benefit in return?
I don't use TRIM feature on my systems because of that, and hope for a firmware
of modern SSD will manage everything automatically. Am I wrong?


TRIM should reduce, not increase, drive wear. (Since the drive knows 
that a particular block is unusued, it can write directly instead 
of having to read and rewrite an entire erase group.) It should also 
increase performance by increasing the free pool on the drive and reduce 
the garbage collection pressure. The magnitude of any benefits depends 
heavily on how the drive is used and how the firmware implements its 
writing and garbage collection routines.


A possible negative is that some drives have bugs in their TRIM 
implementation (known bad drives are blacklisted). Also, enabling TRIM 
at the filesystem level can reduce performance depending on the drive's 
implementation and the read/write patterns on the filesystem. (Issuing 
large numbers of small TRIM operations can negatively affect 
performance.) That disadvantage can be avoided by running fstrim in 
batch rather than having the filesystem TRIM as files are deleted.


Mike Stone

Re: Com Systemd tracta if-up.d i similars

[Narcis Garcia]

He provat establint TimeoutStartSec=infinity a
/lib/systemd/system/ifup@.service
i no es resol el problema.
Per mi que ifup no s'ha de comportar com a servei resident, sinó que, a
partir d'un esdeveniment, alguna cosa ha de disparar la seva execució,
sempre finita.




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masked enough at this mail public archive. Public archive administrator
should fix this against automated addresses collectors.
El 06/11/17 a les 18:14, Alex Muntada ha escrit:
> Narcis Garcia:
> 
>> Algú sap si Systemd deixa d'atendre aquesta característica de
>> ifupdown al cap de l'estona?
> 
> Al meu /lib/systemd/system/ifup@.service diu TimeoutStartSec=5min
> (pel que podria ser ben bé com dius).
> 
> Salut,
> Alex
> 

Fedora has a boot option that forces the installer to recognize a drive as GPT, can this be added to Ubiquity/Debian?

[Indo Neh]

There is a boot option in Fedora 'inst.gpt' which forces the Fedora 26
Anaconda installer to recognize a drive as a GPT drive for the purposes of
the Anaconda installer setting up the drive with a GPT partition table.

https://rhinstaller.github.io/anaconda/boot-options.html#inst-gpt

Could this somehow be added to Ubiquity as this option is useful for anyone
who wants to set up a drive on a BIOS-based system as a GPT drive without
having to manually partition the drive after manually setting it as GPT? It
makes the automated drive setup (e.g. encrypted LVM setup) very easy and
painless.

Re: Com Systemd tracta if-up.d i similars

[Narcis Garcia]

Gràcies; sembla que aquesta finalització del servei també deu afectar a:
/lib/systemd/system/networking.service

De tota manera, atenent al "Type=oneshot" d'aquest altre «servei»,
sembla com si en realitat no estiguessin implementats com a serveis que
atenen esdeveniments. Fixa't que a la incidència #880982 han dit que
això ja no funciona via udev.
Aleshores, ja no sé com està plantejat que un esdeveniment, com l'enllaç
físic de xarxa, hagi de desencadenar l'execució d'una instrucció, i em
sembla molt estrany que, a aquestes alçades, jo pugui ser el primer en
queixar-se.





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El 06/11/17 a les 18:14, Alex Muntada ha escrit:
> Narcis Garcia:
> 
>> Algú sap si Systemd deixa d'atendre aquesta característica de
>> ifupdown al cap de l'estona?
> 
> Al meu /lib/systemd/system/ifup@.service diu TimeoutStartSec=5min
> (pel que podria ser ben bé com dius).
> 
> Salut,
> Alex
> 

Re: how to enable trim for an external encrypted SSD?

[Alexander V. Makartsev]

On 06.11.2017 18:28, Christian Seiler wrote:
>
> You could ask the LUKS developers to include an additional flag in
> their headers that allows you to specify that this volume should be
> opened with discards allowed by default - to maybe solve this in the
> very long term. No idea how amenable they'd be towards that though,
> as they do discourage the usage of TRIM in LUKS because it weakens
> possible security guarantees somewhat.
>
> Regards,
> Christian
>
Thank you for an insightful answer.
Now I wonder, why would anyone want to use TRIM feature on a portable
SSD, especially on an encrypted one?
Isn't this feature only increases drive wear, offering next to nothing
as a benefit in return?
I don't use TRIM feature on my systems because of that, and hope for a
firmware of modern SSD will manage everything automatically. Am I wrong?

-- 
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Re: [HS] Spoofing avis

[Christophe]

Bonsoir,

Le 06/11/2017 à 17:02, MERLIN Philippe a écrit :

Bonjour,
Ce matin dans ma boite mail principal j'ai reçu un email m'informant que
j'avais commandé sur Amazon "un x" pour 125€, surprise totale, ce message
semblait authentique il indiquait le lieu de la livraison qui était bien celui
de mon domicile.
Premier réflexe : cliquer sur un lien du message pour annuler cette commande,
j'ai tout de suite arrêter mon premier mouvement.
Deuxième réflexe : consulter sur le site  Amazon l'historique de mes commandes
et évidemment celle ci n'apparaissait pas.
Troisième réflexe envoyer à Amazon le mail trompeur.
Ce qui m'interpelle dans ce mail, c'est qu'il connaissait outre mon email ce
qui n'est pas trop difficile mais mon adresse personnelle.
Avez vous rencontré une tentative de spoofing aussi élaborée ?
Philippe Merlin



Hmm ... je me disais bien aussi que c'était louche ...

Alors oui *Attention* , je tiens à mettre en garde également sur le fait 
que j'ai reçu des mails très surprenants sur une boite mail que 
j'utilise exclusivement pour les échanges administratifs avec Free
(Jamais diffusée autre part qu'au service client de chez Free, sur un 
nom de domaine que je possède et donc pas une adresse @free.fr).


Je soupçonne très sérieusement que Free se soit fait dérober des 
données, et au vu de tes dires, il n'est pas impossible que cela aille 
jusqu'aux données personnelles (Nom et adresse !)


Aussi j'inciterais les abonnés de chez Free à la plus grande méfiance 
concernant les mails qu'ils reçoivent dans les prochain(e)s heures/jours.


Soyez vigilants les amis.

Christophe.

Re: Rsync

[David Wright]

On Mon 06 Nov 2017 at 09:02:31 (+), Joe wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 19:16:30 -0600
> David Wright  wrote:
> > As for MC, it's in the population of programs that I would never run
> > as root, along with X, Emacs, …Office, browsers, media players (does
> > that cover it?). Root does not need Swiss Army knives slashing about.
> 
> Isn't that odd? I almost never run mc as anything other than root. I
> normally use Nautilus or Thunar for file work, but if it's anything
> a bit hairy, I fire up a sudo mc terminal.

I'm not familiar with hairy file work (as root, that is).

Cheers,
David.

Re: MC (was: Rsync)

[David Wright]

On Sun 05 Nov 2017 at 21:21:01 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote:
> Weaver composed on 2017-11-05 17:55 (UTC-0800):
> 
> > David Wright wrote:
> 
> >> On Sun 05 Nov 2017 at 12:18:50 (-0800), Weaver wrote:
> 
> >>> Brian wrote:
> 
> >>> > On Sun 05 Nov 2017 at 19:51:48 +, Brian wrote:
> 
> >>> >> Midnight Commander and locate are also very useful additions, but that
> >>> >> does merit including them in Priority: standard.
> >>> >   ^
> >>> >   not
> 
> >>> Not so sure about locate, but I'd include MC, with internal edit, some
> >>> time before I'd include, say, Nano.
> 
> >> IMO you have to have an editor suitable for root to configure the
> >> system. Vi is fine for those who know it, but it has to be learnt.
> >> Almost anyone who can read can use nano with no knowledge whatsoever.
> 
> >> As for MC, it's in the population of programs that I would never run
> >> as root, along with X, Emacs, …Office, browsers, media players (does
> >> that cover it?). Root does not need Swiss Army knives slashing about.
> 
> > Well, I don't know if I'd describe MC as `a Swiss Army Knife'. Thunar
> > and nautilus, maybe.
> > I also find aptitude handy at that level (before I've installed a DE,
> > because I can see what I have installed and get every package
> > description, installed or uninstalled, right there in the NCurses
> > interface. Wordgrinder's another I'd fit in that category, for those who
> > don't want a GUI and LibreOffice Writer.
> 
> > I certainly wouldn't fit MC into the category of a multi-Megabyte
> > browser or media programme requiring a heavy GUI interface.
> > With all due respect, that's a bit over the top. 

That wasn't my point: I don't care about how you categorise it.
MC is a program that can wipe half your system in two or three
keypresses. It can mix together a couple of directories likewise.
There's no easy way of recording what just happened so that you
can unpick it. It doesn't buy me enough in return. That's why
I won't use it as root.

> Not having MC is a handicap I won't long tolerate. In any unfamiliar
> environment, it's the first thing I look for. On a fresh Debian minimal
> installation I make, apt install mc is usually the first or second entry to go
> into root's .bash_history.

Ditto, but that's for me, as a user. Of course I want a file manager.

Cheers,
David.

Re: installation Buster et raid 1

[Pascal Hambourg]

Le 06/11/2017 à 11:38, Kohler Gerard a écrit :

bonjour,

je suis actuellement en Stretch avec un raid 1 pour ma partition /home

j'aimerai passer en debian buster, sans perdre mes données ;-)


Si l'installateur de buster est comme les versions précédentes, il 
détectera et assemblera automatiquement tes ensembles RAID et tu pourras 
en faire ce que bon te semble. Par exemple en monter un sur /home. Il 
faudra juste faire attention à ne pas marquer le volume "à formater".


Débrancher un des disques du RAID pendant l'installation, c'est courir 
le risque de devoir lancer une resynchronisation de 4 To (c'est long) 
lorsque le disque sera rebranché.

Re: [HS] Spoofing avis

[andre_debian]

On Monday 06 November 2017 17:02:02 MERLIN Philippe wrote:
> Ce matin dans ma boite mail principal j'ai reçu un email m'informant que 
> j'avais commandé sur Amazon "un x" pour 125€, surprise totale, 
> ce message  semblait authentique il indiquait le lieu de la livraison 
> qui était bien celui de mon domicile.
> Premier réflexe : cliquer sur un lien du message pour annuler 
> cette commande,  
> j'ai tout de suite arrêter mon premier mouvement.
> Deuxième réflexe : consulter sur le site  Amazon l'historique 
> de mes commandes  
> et évidemment celle ci n'apparaissait pas.
> Troisième réflexe envoyer à Amazon le mail trompeur.
> Ce qui m'interpelle dans ce mail, c'est qu'il connaissait outre mon 
> email ce qui n'est pas trop difficile mais mon adresse personnelle. 
> Avez vous rencontré une tentative de spoofing aussi élaborée ?
> Philippe Merlin

Il faudrait envoyer sur la ML ce mail du "prétendu" Amazon.

Quelle est l'adresse du lien à cliquer ?
(tu as bien fait de ne pas cliquer, car le lien possède une extension
permettant de savoir que c'est toi qui a cliqué avec des conséquences).

Quel est le but d'un tel mail ? :
Capter ton login + mot de passe ?  mais à quelle fin...
Sans doute faire des achats sur ton compte avec une carte de 
crédit volée et c'est toi ensuite qui va trinquer ?
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L'émetteur du mail a pu avoir ton adresse de multiples façons,
ça crédibilise, c'est bien Amazon qui m'écrit, on tombe plus 
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Des dames ont vu leur compte en banque crédité de 50.000€
par un gentil monsieur rencontré sur un site de rencontres.
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La police débarque chez elle, vous avez capté frauduleusement
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Re: [HS] Spoofing avis

[MERLIN Philippe]

Message reçu directement, je le renvoie à la liste, je ne pense pas qu'il 
sache ce qu'est le spoofing.
Philippe Merlin



Le lundi 6 novembre 2017, 17:30:43 CET mala...@elude.in a écrit :
> [HS] Spoofing avis
> 
>  debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> HS] Spoofing avis
> MERLIN Philippe
> 
>   @portable>
>  phil.mer...@free.fr
> 
> Bonjour,
> Ce matin dans ma boite mail principal j'ai reçu un email m'informant que
> j'avais commandé sur Amazon "un x" pour 125€, surprise totale, ce
> message semblait authentique il indiquait le lieu de la livraison qui était
> bien celui
> de mon domicile.
> Premier réflexe : cliquer sur un lien du message pour annuler cette
> commande, j'ai tout de suite arrêter mon premier mouvement.
> Deuxième réflexe : consulter sur le site  Amazon l'historique de mes
> commandes
> et évidemment celle ci n'apparaissait pas.
> Troisième réflexe envoyer à Amazon le mail trompeur.
> Ce qui m'interpelle dans ce mail, c'est qu'il connaissait outre mon email ce
> qui n'est pas trop difficile mais mon adresse personnelle.
> Avez vous rencontré une tentative de spoofing aussi élaborée ?
> Philippe Merlin
> 
> Reply to:
> 
> la loi dit que VOUS êtes responsable donc VOUS devez payer ce que VOUS
> achetez ors la vente par correspondance est interdite donc vous avez 7
> jours pour vous rétracter _ que cela soit vraie ou pas _ et obtenir le
> remboursement de votre achat que n'êtes pas obligé d'accepter d'ailleurs
> ... c'est donc avec amazon qu'il faut voir et qui vous mettra en contact
> avec l'entreprise ...
> 
> Bonne  nouvelle : vous ne l'avez pas commandé vous pouvez garder l'envoi ;
> c'est légal et cadeau !
> 
> ==
> et c'est quoi votre adresse , LaPoste , Free ?
> ... le comble de l'anonymat : mdr .
> 
> le sujet est donc la vente par correspondance et non internet (spoofing ?
> n'importe quoi ! si il y avait eû spoofing vous auriez été débitée sur
> votre compte de ladîte somme).
> ==
> ...: troll & spam comme d'habitude signes malheureux d'une mailing-list
> morte et inutile.

Re: Com Systemd tracta if-up.d i similars

[Alex Muntada]

Narcis Garcia:

> Algú sap si Systemd deixa d'atendre aquesta característica de
> ifupdown al cap de l'estona?

Al meu /lib/systemd/system/ifup@.service diu TimeoutStartSec=5min
(pel que podria ser ben bé com dius).

Salut,
Alex



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Re: Com Systemd tracta if-up.d i similars

[Narcis Garcia]

He obert una incidència perquè he fet diverses proves i la cosa
coincideix amb la meva sospita:
https://bugs.debian.org/880982

Molta gent dediquem massa hores a topar amb el subproducte de Kay
Sievers i els seus col·legues.



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El 06/11/17 a les 14:17, Narcis Garcia ha escrit:
> Encara no n'estic del tot segur, però m'ha donat la impressió que els
> programets (scripts) colocats en aquests directoris només són executats
> durant l'arrencada o aturada del sistema:
> 
> /etc/network/if-up.d
> /etc/network/if-down.d
> /etc/network/if-pre-up.d
> /etc/network/if-post-down.d
> 
> En un ordinador amb Debian 9, un programt (de Durruter) a if-up.d s'ha
> estat executant sense problema cada vegada que el sistema ha engegat amb
> la xarxa connectada.
> Avui m'he trobat, però, que l'ordinador ha engegat amb el cable de xarxa
> desendollat, i no li he connectat fins mitja hora després. Doncs el
> programet no s'ha executat, tot i que la xarxa s'ha configurat
> perfectament per DHCP.
> 
> Algú sap si Systemd deixa d'atendre aquesta característica de ifupdown
> al cap de l'estona?
> 
> Necessito saber com abordar això per a rectificar aquest programa si
> s'escau:
> www.actiu.net/durruter
> 

[HS] Spoofing avis

[MERLIN Philippe]

Bonjour,
Ce matin dans ma boite mail principal j'ai reçu un email m'informant que 
j'avais commandé sur Amazon "un x" pour 125€, surprise totale, ce message 
semblait authentique il indiquait le lieu de la livraison qui était bien celui 
de mon domicile.
Premier réflexe : cliquer sur un lien du message pour annuler cette commande, 
j'ai tout de suite arrêter mon premier mouvement.
Deuxième réflexe : consulter sur le site  Amazon l'historique de mes commandes 
et évidemment celle ci n'apparaissait pas.
Troisième réflexe envoyer à Amazon le mail trompeur.
Ce qui m'interpelle dans ce mail, c'est qu'il connaissait outre mon email ce 
qui n'est pas trop difficile mais mon adresse personnelle. 
Avez vous rencontré une tentative de spoofing aussi élaborée ?
Philippe Merlin

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Re: Rsync

[Greg Wooledge]

On Sun, Nov 05, 2017 at 04:00:45PM -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> As far as vim-tiny, vi is specified/required [0] in POSIX.1-2008.

So is ed(1), but Debian has elected not to include ed in Standard.

Some of the Debian choices are simply that -- choices.  The developers
weigh the results of popularity-contest vs. the various standards
vs. the historical practices vs. what other distributions do, and
come up with something that makes sense for most of the users, most
of the time.

I install vim and rsync because I use them.  I have no problem with
needing to do this, and it makes sense not to include them in Standard
because not everyone is going to use them.  Likewise, I don't use emacs,
so I don't install it.  I'd be mildly irritated if emacs were included
in Standard, so I can see why someone who doesn't use rsync would feel
that way about rsync.

Com Systemd tracta if-up.d i similars

[Narcis Garcia]

Encara no n'estic del tot segur, però m'ha donat la impressió que els
programets (scripts) colocats en aquests directoris només són executats
durant l'arrencada o aturada del sistema:

/etc/network/if-up.d
/etc/network/if-down.d
/etc/network/if-pre-up.d
/etc/network/if-post-down.d

En un ordinador amb Debian 9, un programt (de Durruter) a if-up.d s'ha
estat executant sense problema cada vegada que el sistema ha engegat amb
la xarxa connectada.
Avui m'he trobat, però, que l'ordinador ha engegat amb el cable de xarxa
desendollat, i no li he connectat fins mitja hora després. Doncs el
programet no s'ha executat, tot i que la xarxa s'ha configurat
perfectament per DHCP.

Algú sap si Systemd deixa d'atendre aquesta característica de ifupdown
al cap de l'estona?

Necessito saber com abordar això per a rectificar aquest programa si
s'escau:
www.actiu.net/durruter

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Re: how to enable trim for an external encrypted SSD?

[Christian Seiler]

Am 2017-11-06 13:09, schrieb Joerg Desch:
Now I have bought a SanDisk Extreme Portable SSD. My goal is to add a 
LUKS
encrypted partition without an explicit fstab entry. I've done this 
with
some USB thumbdrives before, but not with TRIM support. The drvie 
should

be plugged into any Linux device without the need to change the
configuration.

What is the correct way to add TRIM support to an external SSD with 
LUKS

encrypted partition?


I don't what you want is possible. When you plug in an external drive
(that is _not_ in /etc/fstab etc.) the process of how it gets mounted
is different:

 - For configured drives (/etc/fstab etc.) the init system (e.g.
   systemd, but also initscripts when you are using sysvinit) will
   read /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab and apply those options to
   the LUKS container and the filesystem.

 - For non-configured drives the 'udisks' helper program will
   enable the user to decrypt & mount those devices.

Now, at least the ext4 filesystem allows you to set default mount
options, such as 'discard':

   tune2fs -o +discard /dev/external_disk_device

btrfs on the other hand tries to auto-detect SSDs and enable
discard automatically if on an SSD - but I have no idea whether that
works under LUKS or not.

But all that doesn't really help you if the underlying LUKS container
isn't opened with the discard option set. And as far as I know there
is no possibility of tagging a LUKS container with that option, you
must always supply that option to the cryptsetup command (which is
done implicitly via /etc/crypttab).

And while you might be able to reconfigure udisks to pass the discard
option to cryptsetup (though I'm also doubtful about that), that
configuration would have to happen on each individual computer, and
can't be put onto the external drive.

In summary:

 - If your filesystem is not encrypted, btrfs out of the box, and
   ext4 with the proper option set, should make it possible to
   automatically enable mounting with the correct option.

 - But I don't know of any method to tag a LUKS container so that it
   is opened with TRIM support by default.

Hence I don't think what you want is possible with the current state
of affairs, unfortunately. Sorry.

You could ask the LUKS developers to include an additional flag in
their headers that allows you to specify that this volume should be
opened with discards allowed by default - to maybe solve this in the
very long term. No idea how amenable they'd be towards that though,
as they do discourage the usage of TRIM in LUKS because it weakens
possible security guarantees somewhat.

Regards,
Christian

Re: installation Buster et raid 1

[Kohler Gerard]

effectivement ce n'est pas l'idéal,
j'utilise un RAID 1 avec 2 DD de 4To pour mes données, et je sauvegarde 
sur un NAS
je n'ai pas mis / sur le RAID pour des raisons historiques : j'ai 
construit mon RAID après une perte de données brutale lors d'une 
sauvegarde sur mon NAS : DD ayant une panne de carte, avec corruption de 
toutes les données sur le disque et sur le NAS, irrécupérable :'(
plus de 3 To partis en fumée, heureusement j'ai pu récupérer une partie 
de mes données sur mon portable.

Ceci dit, la même panne peut de nouveau arriver, et tout corrompre
 merci de m'avoir confirmer la méthodologie

Gerard

Le 06/11/2017 à 11:59, daniel huhardeaux a écrit :

Le 06/11/2017 à 11:38, Kohler Gerard a écrit :

bonjour,

je suis actuellement en Stretch avec un raid 1 pour ma partition /home

j'aimerai passer en debian buster, sans perdre mes données ;-)

ma table de partition :

/dev/sda1 linux-raid /dev/md0

/dev/sda2 linux-raid /dev/md1

/dev/sdb1 linux-raid /dev/md0

/dev/sdb2 linux-raid /dev/md1

/dev/md0 linux-swap

/dev/md1 ext3 /home

/dev/sdc1 fat32 /boot/efi

/dev/sdc2 ext4 /

/dev/sdc3 ext4 partition prévue pour installer buster


j'avoue que je stresse un peu pour l'installation de buster

quelle stratégie pour que sous buster je retrouve mon raid sans 
perdre mes données


Vu que sdc est un 3eme disque, si tu ne dis rien à l'installation tout 
se passera sur ce disque. Tu pourras ensuite, une fois buster 
installé, modifier fstab afin d'y placer ton /home qui est en raid. 
Une autre précaution si tu insistes ;) est de débrancher sdb avant 
l'installation, tu auras ainsi un disque de secours de ton raid pour 
le cas ou.


Cela dit, si tu fais attention, pas de soucis, tu peux donner ton home 
raid lors de l'installation, suffit de ne pas demander le formatage.


Pour information, pourquoi / n'est pas en raid? J'ai l'impression que 
tu utilises le raid de ton /home comme sauvegarde. Si c'est le cas, ce 
n'est pas IMHO une bonne approche.

Re: installation Buster et raid 1

[Kohler Gerard]

merci,

sauvegarde sur un NAS tous les jours, donc pas de problème, mais 
rapatrier 3 To de données si on peut éviter !




Le 06/11/2017 à 12:06, Pierre L. a écrit :

Bonjour Gérard,

Déjà étape n°1 si je peux me permettre, la sauvegarde des données si
cela n'a pas encore été réalisé :)

Je laisse la parole aux connaisseurs pour la suite ;)



Le 06/11/2017 à 11:38, Kohler Gerard a écrit :

quelle stratégie pour que sous buster je retrouve mon raid sans perdre
mes données

Re: Instal·lacio de Debian Macbook Pro 2014

[Narcis Garcia]

A mi els ordinadors Mac recents m'han arriba a arrencar fins i tot amb
Live-CD per PC amb Gnome. Suposo, però, que per a què li vagin tots els
dispositius correctament és millor utilitzar les variants adaptades a Mac.





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El 06/11/17 a les 11:27, Oscar Osta Pueyo ha escrit:
> Bones,
> Acabo d'heretar un Macbook Pro de 15" retina del 2014. M'agradaria
> conèixer si algú té instal·lat Debian en aquests tipus de maquinari i si
> tot treballa correctament.
> 
> He llegit la wiki de Debian i més o menys tot funciona.
> 
> Salut!!!
> 
> -- 
> Oscar Osta Pueyo.
> oostap.lis...@gmail.com 
> _kiakli_
> 

how to enable trim for an external encrypted SSD?

[Joerg Desch]

Normally I would enable TRIM support in the /etc/fstab or the /etc/
crypttab by add the discard option.

Now I have bought a SanDisk Extreme Portable SSD. My goal is to add a LUKS 
encrypted partition without an explicit fstab entry. I've done this with 
some USB thumbdrives before, but not with TRIM support. The drvie should 
be plugged into any Linux device without the need to change the 
configuration.

What is the correct way to add TRIM support to an external SSD with LUKS 
encrypted partition?

Re: Instal·lació de Debian Macbook Pro 2014

[Jordi]

El dl 06 de 11 de 2017 a les 11:27 +0100, en/na Oscar Osta Pueyo va
escriure:
> Bones,
> Acabo d'heretar un Macbook Pro de 15" retina del 2014. M'agradaria
> conèixer si algú té instal·lat Debian en aquests tipus de maquinari i
> si tot treballa correctament.
> 
> He llegit la wiki de Debian i més o menys tot funciona.
> 
> Salut!!!
> 
> -- 
> Oscar Osta Pueyo.
> oostap.lis...@gmail.com
> _kiakli_
> 
> 
> 

Jo t'aconsello la distribució http://www.elivecd.org molt bona
combinació de Debian i Enlightenment i sempre pots provar la versió
"live".

Salutacions

Jordi.

Re: Debian on ARM Chromebook: how to get touchpad working?

[Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)]

In Article ,
 Karl Noss  writes:

> I’m running stretch on an ASUS C201
> (https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Asus/C201) and I’m totally
> lost as to how to make the touchpad work. I’m not sure if the system
> even sees the device.
>
> I’d appreciate it if someone could help me debug this. Here is some
> info from my system:
>
> root@meus:/# uname -a
> Linux meus 4.9.0-4-armmp-lpae #1 SMP Debian 4.9.51-1 (2017-09-28)
> armv7l GNU/Linux
> [...long line snip...]

You are detail man, wow! Also i'm using chromebook, not ARM. And i did
install Ubuntu via Crouton. In this case, i could not help you,
sorry. Simply i did buy usb mouse. That is my solution. Again sorry for
off topic off solution.  

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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Re: installation Buster et raid 1

[Pierre L.]

Bonjour Gérard,

Déjà étape n°1 si je peux me permettre, la sauvegarde des données si
cela n'a pas encore été réalisé :)

Je laisse la parole aux connaisseurs pour la suite ;)



Le 06/11/2017 à 11:38, Kohler Gerard a écrit :
> quelle stratégie pour que sous buster je retrouve mon raid sans perdre
> mes données




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Re: installation Buster et raid 1

[daniel huhardeaux]

Le 06/11/2017 à 11:38, Kohler Gerard a écrit :

bonjour,

je suis actuellement en Stretch avec un raid 1 pour ma partition /home

j'aimerai passer en debian buster, sans perdre mes données ;-)

ma table de partition :

/dev/sda1 linux-raid /dev/md0

/dev/sda2 linux-raid /dev/md1

/dev/sdb1 linux-raid /dev/md0

/dev/sdb2 linux-raid /dev/md1

/dev/md0 linux-swap

/dev/md1 ext3 /home

/dev/sdc1 fat32 /boot/efi

/dev/sdc2 ext4 /

/dev/sdc3 ext4 partition prévue pour installer buster


j'avoue que je stresse un peu pour l'installation de buster

quelle stratégie pour que sous buster je retrouve mon raid sans perdre 
mes données


Vu que sdc est un 3eme disque, si tu ne dis rien à l'installation tout 
se passera sur ce disque. Tu pourras ensuite, une fois buster installé, 
modifier fstab afin d'y placer ton /home qui est en raid. Une autre 
précaution si tu insistes ;) est de débrancher sdb avant l'installation, 
tu auras ainsi un disque de secours de ton raid pour le cas ou.


Cela dit, si tu fais attention, pas de soucis, tu peux donner ton home 
raid lors de l'installation, suffit de ne pas demander le formatage.


Pour information, pourquoi / n'est pas en raid? J'ai l'impression que tu 
utilises le raid de ton /home comme sauvegarde. Si c'est le cas, ce 
n'est pas IMHO une bonne approche.


--
Daniel

installation Buster et raid 1

[Kohler Gerard]

bonjour,

je suis actuellement en Stretch avec un raid 1 pour ma partition /home

j'aimerai passer en debian buster, sans perdre mes données ;-)

ma table de partition :

/dev/sda1 linux-raid /dev/md0

/dev/sda2 linux-raid /dev/md1

/dev/sdb1 linux-raid /dev/md0

/dev/sdb2 linux-raid /dev/md1

/dev/md0 linux-swap

/dev/md1 ext3 /home

/dev/sdc1 fat32 /boot/efi

/dev/sdc2 ext4 /

/dev/sdc3 ext4 partition prévue pour installer buster


j'avoue que je stresse un peu pour l'installation de buster

quelle stratégie pour que sous buster je retrouve mon raid sans perdre 
mes données



merci de votre aide


Gerard

Re: como executar script em user normal com "poderes" de root

[Luís Cláudio A . Gama]

Bom dia,

  Antoniogostaria de agradecer sua dica.

  Eu comecei nesse problema com a idéia fixa de um script para alterar a
permissão e não raciocinei em cima da sua sugestão.


  A regra do udev já criava o link simbólico logo após o sistema reconhecer
o /dev/ttyACM*, logo era suposto também alberar as permissões no momento da
sua criação. Eu deveria ter me atentado a isso.

  Realmente, o device é reconhecido com as permissões corretas para o
usuáriopode replugar quantas vezes quiser que o sistema ficou plug and
play.

  Obrigado a todos pelas dicas.



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Em 4 de novembro de 2017 20:39, Antonio Terceiro 
escreveu:

> On Sat, Nov 04, 2017 at 10:48:34AM -0200, Luís Cláudio A. Gama wrote:
> > Bom dia,
> >
> >   Verifiquei o grupo a que o device pertence:
> >
> > crwxrwxrwx 1 root dialout 166, 0 Nov  4 08:48 /dev/ttyACM0
> >
> >   O meu usuário já faz parte desse grupo e também ao grupo tty.
> >
> >   Também fiz as alterações sugeridas na regra udev do dispositivo:
> > SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ACTION=="add", KERNEL=="ttyACM[0-9]*",
> > ATTRS{idVendor}=="0525", SYMLINK+="ttyTS0",MODE="0660",GROUP="dialout"
> >
> >   Permissões do sript
> > -rwsrwsrwx  1 root root   34 Nov  2 08:57 initsat.sh
> >
> >  Fiz o login novamente e o resultado é o mesmo, ainda não é possível
> mudar
> > as permissões sem a senha de root
> >
> > De qualquer forma já consigo alterar essas permissões com as alterações
> > sugeridas pelo Fred alterando sudoers
>
> talvez não tenha ficado claro, mas o ponto de se ter uma regra do udev é
> _não ter_ que alterar permissões na mão: quando você pluga o dispositivo,
> o udev já coloca as permissões certas pra você
>

Instal·lació de Debian Macbook Pro 2014

[Oscar Osta Pueyo]

Bones,
Acabo d'heretar un Macbook Pro de 15" retina del 2014. M'agradaria conèixer
si algú té instal·lat Debian en aquests tipus de maquinari i si tot
treballa correctament.

He llegit la wiki de Debian i més o menys tot funciona.

Salut!!!

-- 
Oscar Osta Pueyo.
oostap.lis...@gmail.com
_kiakli_

Re: plutôt keepass2 ou keepassx ?

[G2PC]

Le 06/11/2017 à 08:21, Migrec a écrit :
> Le 05/11/2017 à 18:21, Tulum a écrit :
>> Le dimanche 5 novembre 2017, 15:33:34 CET Jean-Marc a écrit :
>>> salut la list,
>>>
>>> Je me demande lequel installer ?
>>> Keepass2 ou KeepassX ?
>>>
>>> Et vous ?
>>>
>>> Jean-Marc 
>> Personnellement, j'ai KeepassX, plus esthétique. Du point de vue
>> "technique"
>> et sécurité, je ne sais pas.
>>
>
> Keepass2 pour moi car il me semble que KeepassX ne me permettait pas
> d'importer mes listes d'utilisateurs en masse. Avec Keepass2, c'est
> très facile.
>
> -- 
> Migrec
>
Je n'ai pas cherché la réponse, peut être savez vous m'informer. Quel
est le plus récent, entre Keepass2 et KeepassX ?
Pour ma part, j'utilise Keepass2, il fonctionne correctement sur
différents OS GNU/Linux et sur Windows 10.

Installer Keepass2 sur GNU/Linux :
https://www.visionduweb.eu/wiki/index.php?title=Utiliser_des_commandes_shell_avec_le_terminal#KeePass_2

Re: Rsync

[Joe]

On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 19:16:30 -0600
David Wright  wrote:


> 
> As for MC, it's in the population of programs that I would never run
> as root, along with X, Emacs, …Office, browsers, media players (does
> that cover it?). Root does not need Swiss Army knives slashing about.

Isn't that odd? I almost never run mc as anything other than root. I
normally use Nautilus or Thunar for file work, but if it's anything
a bit hairy, I fire up a sudo mc terminal.

It's Zen, or something, I see the old Norton Commander window and it
takes me back to the days when hard drives were measured in tens of
megabytes, and the computer cost as much as a car. 'For God's sake, be
careful, lad, this thing is live!'

-- 
Joe

Re: Customização pós instalação Debian

[jacksonrb]

Bom dia.

https://manpages.debian.org/jessie/libguestfs-tools/virt-sysprep.1.en.html

veja se te atende.

Abç

Em 5 de novembro de 2017 22:20, Leandro Moreira <
lean...@leandromoreira.eti.br> escreveu:

> Prezados, boa noite!
>
> Existe alguma ferramenta para o Debian que me permita parametrizar algumas
> configurações pós instalação.
>
> Vou realizar uma configuração básica na VM e após isso envia-la ao
> cliente, chegando lá quando ele inicia-la, gostaria que fosse solicitada
> informações tais como, nome do host, ip, mascara de rere, gateway e dns.
>
> Podem me indicar alguma ferramenta.
>
> Att.
> --
> Leandro Moreira
> Network Administrator
> LPIC1 - Linux Professional Institute Certified
> e-mail/msn: lean...@leandromoreira.eti.br
> Tel.: + 55(32) 9906-5713 <+55%2032%209906-5713>
>