Re : TV Linux.
Le 19/10/2020 21:32:05, qbtdbm a écrit : > Bonjour, > Je me permet ce message même si cela ne concerne pas directement > Debian mais Linux. > En passant chez Boulanger, j'ai vu des TV fonctionnant sous Linux et > pas sous Android… > Je n'ai pas trouvé plus d'informations mais je continue de chercher. > Est-ce Open Source ? Est ce que l'on peut mettre à jour en cas > d’obsolescence ? > Quelqu'un a-t-il des informations complémentaire ou une expérience ? J’en ai une à la maison, déjà ancienne. Il y a des prises USB mais je doute qu’on puisse démarrer dessus où même y faire fonctionner un clavier ou une souris. Le système est inaccessible, du moins, je n’ai pas vraiment chercher à y faire tourner Doom. nicolas patrois : pts noir asocial -- RÉALISME M : Qu'est-ce qu'il nous faudrait pour qu'on nous considère comme des humains ? Un cerveau plus gros ? P : Non... Une carte bleue suffirait...
Re : [HS] TV Linux.
Bonjour, En passant chez Boulanger tu aurais dû demander comment fonctionnait leur service après-vente. Il faut payer un forfait pour le diagnostic pour espérer avoir un devis. Faire travailler des exploiteurs et des esclavagiste ne m'a jamais paru éthique. Cassis - Mail d'origine - De: qbtdbm À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Envoyé: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 21:32:05 +0200 (CEST) Objet: TV Linux. Bonjour, Je me permet ce message même si cela ne concerne pas directement Debian mais Linux. En passant chez Boulanger, j'ai vu des TV fonctionnant sous Linux et pas sous Android… Je n'ai pas trouvé plus d'informations mais je continue de chercher. Est-ce Open Source ? Est ce que l'on peut mettre à jour en cas d’obsolescence ? Quelqu'un a-t-il des informations complémentaire ou une expérience ? Merci.
Re : Re: Importer données Firefox
Bonjour, Dans le menu Firefox Marque-pages -> Afficher tous les marque-pages -> importation et sauvegarde, il y a le choix pour sauvegarder ou importer les marque-pages. La commande exporter vous créera un fichier bookmark.json que vous pourrez sauvegarder où vous voulez. Je rajoute la date de ma sauvegarde pour distinguer les différentes sauvegarde que je fais de temps à autre. En espérant que ça peut vous aider Cassis - Mail d'origine - De: ajh-valmer À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Envoyé: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 19:54:54 +0200 (CEST) Objet: Re: Importer données Firefox On Monday 19 October 2020 15:20:05 Gaëtan PERRIER wrote: > Le lundi 19 octobre 2020 à 14:43 +0200, ajh-valmer a écrit : > > On Monday 19 October 2020 12:58:40 Gaëtan Perrier wrote: > > > Tes données sont dans ton home et ne seront pas effacées. > > > Firefox devrait les charger directement et te prévenir des > > > extensions qui ne seront le cas échéant plus compatible > > > avec la version 78 : > > Dans le répertoire : /home/user/.mozilla/ ? > > (lequel ?) > Oui en général mais ça peut aussi être /home//.firefox J'ai quasi réussi, ayant retrouvé mes marques pages, historique, mais plus l'écriture prédictive dans la barre d'adresse, et les enregistrements des login + mot de passe. Pas grave, je les recréerai. Merci à tous ceux qui m'ont répondu.
Re: rsync --delete
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 14:11, David Christensen wrote: > On 2020-10-19 04:55, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 03:01:13PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > >> I try to use all lower case letters for variable names and all upper case > >> letters for constants. > > ALL_UPPER_CASE is reserved for internal shell variables, and environment > > variables. > Please provide a citation (for Bourne shell scripts). Maybe POSIX.1-2017 is what you're asking for? https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/basedefs/V1_chap01.html """ POSIX.1-2017 defines a standard operating system interface and environment, including a command interpreter (or "shell"), and common utility programs to support applications portability at the source code level. """ https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/basedefs/V1_chap08.html """ Environment variable names used by the utilities in the Shell and Utilities volume of POSIX.1-2017 consist solely of uppercase letters, digits, and the ( '_' ) [...] The name space of environment variable names containing lowercase letters is reserved for applications. [...] It is unwise to conflict with certain variables that are frequently exported by widely used command interpreters and applications: [...] """
Re: define (or translate, or substitute for) "interpolate": Re: rsync --delete
On Saturday, October 17, 2020 06:01:13 PM David Christensen wrote: I don't use Bourne arrays, and I barely understand how the shell interpolates lists and preserves items containing whitespace. When I can't figure it out, I switch to Perl. On 2020-10-19 05:29, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for an alternate thing to think of when I see the word interpolate -- I guess maybe interpret or substitute would be good ways for me to think about it (think when I see the word interpolate) (maybe see rant, below). On Monday, October 19, 2020 08:55:01 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: To be fair, you should quote wikipedia thoroughly. In the disambiguation page [1] you do find the current use: String interpolation, in computing, the substitution of variables by their values "String interpolation" is what I meant. Thank you for finding the reference. :-) David
Re: rsync --delete
On 2020-10-19 04:55, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 03:01:13PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
I try to use all lower case letters for variable names and all upper case
letters for constants.
ALL_UPPER_CASE is reserved for internal shell variables, and environment
variables.
Please provide a citation (for Bourne shell scripts).
If you abuse it for "constants" as well, on your head be it. You must
take care to ensure that your ALL_CAPS variable does not collide with
any internal shell variables, or environment variables.
Yes.
I use braces whenever evaluating a variable -- '${Params}'. I forget the
details why, but I do recall that this practice is important.
It isn't. It's entirely stylistic.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8748831/when-do-we-need-curly-braces-around-shell-variables
I don't use Bourne arrays, and I barely understand how the shell
Bourne shell does not have arrays. Neither does POSIX shell.
interpolates lists and preserves items containing whitespace. When I can't
figure it out, I switch to Perl.
OK.
No wonder I don't use arrays (or Bash) in shell scripts.
cd /home/mike
I prefer scripts that I can run from anywhere.
... hence, the cd inside the script. Doesn't matter where you call it
from, as long as the script cd's to the right location to do its work,
**AND VERIFIES THAT THE cd ACTUALLY WORKED**.
Another reason why I use 'set -e':
2020-10-19 20:06:06 dpchrist@tinkywinky ~/sandbox/sh
$ cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a
9.13
Linux tinkywinky 4.9.0-13-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.228-1 (2020-07-05)
x86_64 GNU/Linux
2020-10-19 20:06:08 dpchrist@tinkywinky ~/sandbox/sh
$ cat set-e.sh
#!/bin/sh
set -x
cd /no/such/directory
echo $?
set -e
cd /another/bad/directory
echo $?
2020-10-19 20:06:14 dpchrist@tinkywinky ~/sandbox/sh
$ /bin/sh set-e.sh
+ cd /no/such/directory
set-e.sh: 3: cd: can't cd to /no/such/directory
+ echo 2
2
+ set -e
+ cd /another/bad/directory
set-e.sh: 6: cd: can't cd to /another/bad/directory
If the script must change the working directory, I would display that --
'set -x', 'cd ...', and 'set +x'.
For god's sake, why?
Sometimes I debug a script by opening another terminal and entering the
commands that the script executed.
Sometimes I tee(1) the output of script to a log file so I have a record
of what the script did.
I use 'set -e'
NOOO
On 2020-10-19 12:16, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/105
I am sorry, but your article does not convince me to not set 'errexit'
in my Bourne shell scripts. If and when I do need to deal with exit
values manually, I will disable 'errexit' for the relevant stretch of
code and then re-enable errexit afterwards.
On 2020-10-19 05:00, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> using an explicit /usr/bin/rsync is sketchy at best. You
> should already have /usr/bin in your PATH
AIUI using absolute paths for tools in shell scripts is a security best
practice -- it helps defend against attacks where PATH is compromised
and/or trojaned system tools are inserted into directories at the front
of PATH.
Using absolute paths for tools also means that the script will work when
cron(8) runs it (or runs something that runs it).
David
Re: rsync --delete
On 2020-10-19 14:12, Tixy wrote: On Mon, 2020-10-19 at 15:16 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/105 NOOO ;-) Excuse me while I go grep 'set -e' -R ... 2020-10-19 20:01:44 dpchrist@tinkywinky ~ $ cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a 9.13 Linux tinkywinky 4.9.0-13-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.228-1 (2020-07-05) x86_64 GNU/Linux 2020-10-19 20:02:17 dpchrist@tinkywinky ~ $ IFS=: && for p in $PATH; do egrep -r 'set (-e|-o errexit)' $p; done /usr/bin/debrelease:set -e /usr/bin/pts-subscribe:set -e /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11:set -e /usr/bin/os-prober:set -e /usr/bin/deb-reversion:set -eu /usr/bin/nmudiff:set -e /usr/bin/dpkg-maintscript-helper:set -e /usr/bin/debrepro:set -eu /usr/bin/debrepro:echo 'set -eu' /usr/bin/dpkg-genbuilddeps:set -e /usr/bin/p7zip:#- remove `"$?" != 0 ' checks that do not work with `set -e' /usr/bin/p7zip:set -e /usr/bin/dscextract:set -eu /usr/bin/cvs-debi:set -e /usr/bin/wnpp-alert:set -e /usr/bin/cvs-debrelease:set -e /usr/bin/wnpp-check:set -e /usr/bin/debrsign:set -e /usr/bin/diff2patches:set -e /usr/bin/linux-boot-prober:set -e /usr/bin/migrate-pubring-from-classic-gpg:set -e /usr/bin/rebuild-gcj-db:set -e /usr/bin/ucf:set -e /usr/bin/ucf: set -e /usr/bin/ucf: set -e /usr/bin/debsign:set -e /usr/bin/archpath:set -e /usr/bin/unmkinitramfs:set -eu /usr/bin/cowpoke:set -e /usr/bin/cowpoke: set -eo pipefail /usr/bin/whodepends:set -e /usr/bin/edit-patch:set -e /usr/bin/apt-key:set -e /usr/bin/mergechanges:set -e /usr/bin/ssh-argv0:set -e /usr/bin/x11perfcomp:set -e /usr/bin/lcf:set -e /usr/bin/lsinitramfs:set -eu /usr/bin/getbuildlog:set -e /usr/bin/ucfr:set -e /usr/bin/ucfr: set -e /usr/bin/ucfr: set -e /bin/which:set -ef David
Re: Zoom.
On 20/10/2020 04:57, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: From: Bob McGowan Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 18:18:18 -0700 As for exiting, so long as Zoom considers it a normal exit, it will give an exit status of zero and you will simply see the next prompt. That is as expected. At least one earlier reply had output in the launching terminal. Here nothing in the terminal. No exit status. Nothing. Off the main topic, but the exit status of a command does not appear in the terminal. To see it, run: echo $? -- John
Re: kernel security upgrade - "rebase?"
On Mon, 19 Oct 2020, The Wanderer wrote: Actually, "rebase" isn't a Debian term at all; it's a git term. Ah, thus explaining why I found said term vaguely unpleasant. To install that package and let the upgrade go forward, you have a few options. The simplest, and the one I go with myself, would be to run $ apt-get dist-upgrade Houston, we have lift-off. That worked like a charm. Thank you for taking a sizable chunk of anxiety out of my world tonight. All best, -- A test of right and wrong must be the means, one would think, of ascertaining what is right or wrong, and not a consequence of having already ascertained it. J. S. Mill
Re: Zoom.
From: Stefan Monnier Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 11:16:01 -0400 > I use and recommend Jitsi as a Free Software alternative. 1-1 connection or multi-party conference? Thanks, ... P. -- Tel: +1 604 670 0140Bcc: peter at easthope. ca
Re: kernel security upgrade - "rebase?"
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 11:22, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2020-10-19 at 20:01, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > I have noticed for several weeks that when I run "apt-get > > upgrade" my kernel gets held back: > If you run 'apt-cache show linux-image-amd64', I suspect that you will > see that the previous (and currently-installed) version depends on a > version-specific package which is currently installed, and the newer > (and not-yet-installed) version depends on a version-specific package > whose name specifies 4.19 (and possibly 4.19.152). To add to The Wanderer's great answer, you might find the output of the below command helps to clarify matters, because it tells about the status of packages that are currently installed: $ apt list --installed --upgradeable 'linux-image*' Whereas (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) 'apt-cache show' tells what is currently available from your configured repositories, but does not indicate whether any of those are currently installed, or not.
Re: Zoom.
From: Stefan Monnier Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 11:16:01 -0400 > I use and recommend Jitsi as a Free Software alternative. 1-1 connection or multi-party conference? Thanks, ... P. -- Tel: +1 604 670 0140Bcc: peter at easthope. ca
Re: kernel security upgrade - "rebase?"
On 2020-10-19 at 20:01, Bob Bernstein wrote: > I am trying to meet the challenge of the security upgrade -- > [SECURITY] [DSA 4774-1] linux security update -- that > was issued today. > > This is an AMD Buster system: > > Linux debian.localdomain 4.19.0-8-amd64 #1 SMP Debian > 4.19.98-1+deb10u1 (2020-04-27) x86_64 GNU/Linux > > I have noticed for several weeks that when I run "apt-get > upgrade" my kernel gets held back: > > "The following packages have been kept back: >linux-image-amd64 thunderbird" > > So, again today, running apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade > does not install the new kernel. Here is the instruction from > the security bulletin: > > "For the stable distribution (buster), these problems have been > fixed in version 4.19.152-1. The vulnerabilities are fixed by > rebasing to the new stable upstream version 4.19.152 which > includes additional bugfixes." > > I am completely at a loss to know how to "rebase" to the new > version. The term "rebase" is a Debian term-of-art I have never > before encountered. Can someone please point me to a step by > step "Kernel Rebasing For Dummies" guide? Actually, "rebase" isn't a Debian term at all; it's a git term. What this announcement means is that the Debian kernel-package maintainers have rebased the kernel they ship from being derived from an older kernel version to being derived from this newer one. If you run 'apt-cache show linux-image-amd64', I suspect that you will see that the previous (and currently-installed) version depends on a version-specific package which is currently installed, and the newer (and not-yet-installed) version depends on a version-specific package whose name specifies 4.19 (and possibly 4.19.152). To install that package and let the upgrade go forward, you have a few options. The simplest, and the one I go with myself, would be to run $ apt-get dist-upgrade instead of your existing "apt-get upgrade". This will let apt-get perform new-package installs and old-package removals as part of the upgrade process; in this case, because linux-image-amd64 now depends on a new package, a new-package install is necessary in order for the upgrade to be carried out. It's very likely that that will resolve your issue; it will probably also let Thunderbird get upgraded as well. If you don't want to allow the other package additions or removals that would be involved in that process, you could also see whether $ apt-get install linux-image-amd64 will perform the upgrade and install the new package for just that one case, without touching the others. You could also take the new package name from the 'apt-cache show linux-image-amd64' output and specify it explicitly on an 'apt-get install' command-line, but that has downsides later on (in that the package will probably remain around even after it's not useful anymore) and I wouldn't particularly recommend it. -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
kernel security upgrade - "rebase?"
I am trying to meet the challenge of the security upgrade -- [SECURITY] [DSA 4774-1] linux security update -- that was issued today. This is an AMD Buster system: Linux debian.localdomain 4.19.0-8-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.98-1+deb10u1 (2020-04-27) x86_64 GNU/Linux I have noticed for several weeks that when I run "apt-get upgrade" my kernel gets held back: "The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-amd64 thunderbird" So, again today, running apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade does not install the new kernel. Here is the instruction from the security bulletin: "For the stable distribution (buster), these problems have been fixed in version 4.19.152-1. The vulnerabilities are fixed by rebasing to the new stable upstream version 4.19.152 which includes additional bugfixes." I am completely at a loss to know how to "rebase" to the new version. The term "rebase" is a Debian term-of-art I have never before encountered. Can someone please point me to a step by step "Kernel Rebasing For Dummies" guide? Thank you. -- A test of right and wrong must be the means, one would think, of ascertaining what is right or wrong, and not a consequence of having already ascertained it. J. S. Mill
Re: define (or translate, or substitute for) "interpolate": Re: rsync --delete
Thanks! On Monday, October 19, 2020 08:55:01 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > To be fair, you should quote wikipedia thoroughly. In the disambiguation > page [1] you do find the current use: > > String interpolation, in computing, the substitution of variables by > their values
Re: rsync --delete
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 06:09, Mike McClain wrote: > On a different subject, my guess is that your insistence on quoting > variables and using arrays for multi-part parameters is that doing so > as a habit covers the times when a string variable will not expand as > expected while an array will. > Please correct me if I'm mis-reading things. Below is another demo of why it is recommended to always quote shell parameter expansions as standard practice, unless: 1) not-quoting the parameter is *required* for some reason; 2) the situation is fully controlled; 3) the shell parsing and expansion algorithms and execution sequence are completely understood. $ mkdir demo $ cd demo $ touch some files in this directory $ ls directory files in some this $ foo="* * * important * * *" $ echo $foo directory files in some this directory files in some this directory files in some this important directory files in some this directory files in some this directory files in some this
Re: rsync --delete
On Mon, 2020-10-19 at 15:16 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 01:51:04PM -0500, Mike McClain wrote: > > I spent a while searching your wiki trying to find your objections > > without luck, so would you plaese tell this poor heathen what your > > objection to 'set -e' is? > > https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/105 NOOO ;-) Excuse me while I go grep 'set -e' -R ... -- Tixy
Re: Zoom.
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 12:57:52PM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: Obvious factor: replies mention 64 bit machines. 32 b here. Anyone have Zoom running on a 32 b machine with Debian 10? Probably not many, if any. I'd strongly recommend switching to the amd64 distribution for a variety of reasons.
Re: Zoom.
From: Bob McGowan Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 18:18:18 -0700 > I've seen the browser part only when I click on a link in an email > invite. I shouldn't have included the browser window. Not really pertinent. > As for exiting, so long as Zoom considers it a normal exit, it will > give an exit status of zero and you will simply see the next prompt. > That is as expected. At least one earlier reply had output in the launching terminal. Here nothing in the terminal. No exit status. Nothing. > More details on exactly what you are doing and how you are getting > your environment set up would be helpful. Obvious factor: replies mention 64 bit machines. 32 b here. Anyone have Zoom running on a 32 b machine with Debian 10? LXDE environment here. Installed strictly according to the instructions at zoom.us. Used apt or apt-get. Checked all the dependancies specified in zoom.us. I found nothing to configure zoom. I guess a working zoom window might have an edit or preferences button. No such thing here. From: A_Man_Without_Clue Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 12:09:52 +0900 Message-id: > Mine is working fine except it pops up occasionally for no reason. Quite > annoying though. The automatic startup happens here; about every 30 minutes. The window is always empty. Seems I should carefully work through the installation again. Wondering whether I am the only person try a 32 bit machine. Thanks for all the feedback, ... P. -- Tel: +1 604 670 0140Bcc: peter at easthope. ca
Re: webcam externe compatible Debian
Le Fri, 16 Oct 2020 18:49:17 +0200 (CEST), roger.tar...@free.fr a écrit : > Bonjour, > > J'ai passé en revue divers articles sur les webcam pour Linux. > Connaissez-vous des références de webcam (pas trop) anciennes qui > soient compatibles avec Debian Buster ? Celles que vous utilisez avec > bonheur... Les Logitech sont nombreuses sur le marché et semblent > offrir une compatibilité qui dépend du modèle. > > Merci Eye Toy playstation Ps3 sur Rakuten ou autre, moins de 20€, qualité moyenne en basse lumière, pas fullHD mais le micro est pas mal et capte bien la parole dans la pièce, fonctionne out-of-box sous Linux, même sur un Rapsberry, c'est plus compliqué mais possible sous Win10. Bref, permet la videoconf de manière confortable à tout petit prix.
TV Linux.
Bonjour, Je me permet ce message même si cela ne concerne pas directement Debian mais Linux. En passant chez Boulanger, j'ai vu des TV fonctionnant sous Linux et pas sous Android… Je n'ai pas trouvé plus d'informations mais je continue de chercher. Est-ce Open Source ? Est ce que l'on peut mettre à jour en cas d’obsolescence ? Quelqu'un a-t-il des informations complémentaire ou une expérience ? Merci.
Re: rsync --delete
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 01:51:04PM -0500, Mike McClain wrote:
> I spent a while searching your wiki trying to find your objections
> without luck, so would you plaese tell this poor heathen what your
> objection to 'set -e' is?
https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/105
> On a different subject, my guess is that your insistence on quoting
> variables and using arrays for multi-part parameters is that doing so
> as a habit covers the times when a string variable will not expand as
> expected while an array will.
> Please correct me if I'm mis-reading things.
https://mywiki.wooledge.org/Quotes
If a string variable contains whitespace (more technically, any
character in IFS), or if it contains globbing characters (* ? [ ]),
the results of an unquoted expansion can be surprising, in a bad way.
Failing to quote the special [@] array expansion is exactly the same
as failing to quote "$@" when using the positional parameters. Without
the quotews, it will fail to expand each element to a separate word,
which is the entire point of using an array.
unicorn:~$ array=("this array" has four elements)
unicorn:~$ printf '[%s] ' "${array[@]}" ; echo# right
[this array] [has] [four] [elements]
unicorn:~$ printf '[%s] ' ${array[@]}; echo# wrong
[this] [array] [has] [four] [elements]
Re: WiFi adapter MAC address spoofing
Thank you. On 2020-10-19 13:54, Charles Curley wrote: Not all Ethernet or WiFi adapters are capable of changing MAC addresses. Back in the early days, all MAC addresses were hard coded because that was simpler for manufacturers. It also meant that all MAC addresses were unique, so some manufacturers used the MAC address as a serial number for their cards. It also meant that you would never have a collision, two cards using the same MAC address on the same subnet. Now many of them can change MAC addresses. I notice that my iPhone under iOS 14 does so routinely (unless told not to) as an anti-tracking ruse. A down side of this capability is that a malicious actor could use the capability to spoof another device Well, the strange part is that I am able to spoof the MAC address of the WiFi adapter by manually running the following line, before bringing up the adapter: ip link set wlp2s0 address 02:01:02:03:04:08
Re: rsync --delete
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 07:55:27AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > I use 'set -e' > > NOOO While interesting this response is not very informative. I can only tell that you have a problem with it. I spent a while searching your wiki trying to find your objections without luck, so would you plaese tell this poor heathen what your objection to 'set -e' is? On a different subject, my guess is that your insistence on quoting variables and using arrays for multi-part parameters is that doing so as a habit covers the times when a string variable will not expand as expected while an array will. Please correct me if I'm mis-reading things. Thanks, Mike -- "God answers prayer on His own way, not ours." - Ghandi
SOLVED??: Re: How to add an origin to unattended upgrades?
On Fri, 16 Oct 2020 13:24:06 -0600
Charles Curley wrote:
> I have unattended upgrades running on a testbed laptop. I would like
> to add an origin to the list, but I don't think I am getting the entry
> quite right. The origin is for vivaldi, which has its own repo outside
> the Debian repos.
On further reflection, I looked at the sample entries for origins, and
realized that the line for Debian Backports in the Archive or Suite
section might be a better model to try. After commenting out my
original effort, I added:
--
// "o=Debian Backports,a=${distro_codename}-backports,l=Debian
Backports"; "o=Vivaldi Technologies,a=stable,l=Official Vivaldi package
repository"; };
--
This appears to work in a dry run:
--
root@orca:~# unattended-upgrades --dry-run -d
Initial blacklist :
Initial whitelist:
Starting unattended upgrades script
Allowed origins are: origin=Debian,codename=buster-updates,
origin=Debian,codename=buster,label=Debian,
origin=Debian,codename=buster,label=Debian-Security, o=Vivaldi
Technologies,a=stable,l=Official Vivaldi package repository Using
(^linux-image-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-headers-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-image-extra-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-modules-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-modules-extra-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-signed-image-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-image-unsigned-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^kfreebsd-image-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^kfreebsd-headers-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^gnumach-image-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^.*-modules-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^.*-kernel-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-backports-modules-.*-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-modules-.*-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-tools-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-cloud-tools-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-buildinfo-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-source-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*)
regexp to find kernel packages Using
(^linux-image-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-headers-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-image-extra-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-modules-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-modules-extra-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-signed-image-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-image-unsigned-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^kfreebsd-image-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^kfreebsd-headers-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^gnumach-image-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^.*-modules-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^.*-kernel-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-backports-modules-.*-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-modules-.*-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-tools-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-cloud-tools-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-buildinfo-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-source-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$)
regexp to find running kernel packages Checking: linux-image-amd64
([])
Checking: linux-libc-dev ([]) Checking: vivaldi-stable ([]) pkgs that
look like they should be upgraded: linux-image-amd64 linux-libc-dev
vivaldi-stable Get:1 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable/main
amd64 vivaldi-stable amd64 3.4.2066.76-1 [75.7 MB] Fetched 75.7 MB in
6s (14.6 MB/s) fetch.run() result: 0 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb/pool/main/vivaldi-stable_3.4.2066.76-1_amd64.deb'
ID:1 ErrorText: ''>
check_conffile_prompt(/var/cache/apt/archives/vivaldi-stable_3.4.2066.76-1_amd64.deb)
found pkg: vivaldi-stable No conffiles in
deb /var/cache/apt/archives/vivaldi-stable_3.4.2066.76-1_amd64.deb
(There is no member named 'conffiles') http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/l/linux-signed-amd64/linux-image-4.19.0-12-amd64_4.19.152-1_amd64.deb'
ID:0 ErrorText: ''>
check_conffile_prompt(/var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-4.19.0-12-amd64_4.19.152-1_amd64.deb)
No conffiles in
deb /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-4.19.0-12-amd64_4.19.152-1_amd64.deb
(There is no member named 'conffiles') http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/l/linux-latest/linux-image-amd64_4.19+105+deb10u7_amd64.deb'
ID:0 ErrorText: ''>
check_conffile_prompt(/var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-amd64_4.19+105+deb10u7_amd64.deb)
found pkg: linux-image-amd64 No conffiles in
deb /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-amd64_4.19+105+deb10u7_amd64.deb
(There is no member named 'conffiles') http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/l/linux/linux-libc-dev_4.19.152-1_amd64.deb'
ID:0 ErrorText: ''>
check_conffile_prompt(/var/cache/apt/archives/linux-libc-dev_4.19.152-1_amd64.deb)
found pkg: linux-libc-dev No conffiles in
deb /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-libc-dev_4.19.152-1_amd64.deb (There
is no member named 'conffiles') blacklist: [] whitelist: [] Option
--dry-run given, *not* performing real actions Packages that will be
upgraded: linux-image-amd64 linux-libc-dev vivaldi-stable Writing dpkg
log to /var/log/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrades-dpkg.log
applying set ['linux-image-4.19.0-12-amd64', 'linux-image-amd64']
apt-listchanges: Reading changelogs... /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 11
--no-triggers --unpack
--auto-deconfigure
/var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-4.19.0-12-amd64_4.19.152-1_amd64.deb
Re: How to add an origin to unattended upgrades?
On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 13:29:26 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> This looks good to me.
>
> After looking through the bugs list for unattended-upgrades I would
> suggest you check whether upgrading vivaldi-stable requires
> installing new packages or package removals ('apt upgrade -s' should
> tell), as this will also block the upgrade (by design, see #645382).
--
root@orca:~# apt upgrade -s
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
linux-image-4.19.0-12-amd64
The following packages will be upgraded:
linux-image-amd64 linux-libc-dev vivaldi-stable
3 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Inst vivaldi-stable [3.1.1929.45-1] (3.4.2066.76-1 Official Vivaldi package
repository:stable [amd64])
Inst linux-image-4.19.0-12-amd64 (4.19.152-1 Debian-Security:10/stable [amd64])
Inst linux-image-amd64 [4.19+105+deb10u6] (4.19+105+deb10u7
Debian-Security:10/stable [amd64])
Inst linux-libc-dev [4.19.146-1] (4.19.152-1 Debian-Security:10/stable [amd64])
Conf vivaldi-stable (3.4.2066.76-1 Official Vivaldi package repository:stable
[amd64])
Conf linux-image-4.19.0-12-amd64 (4.19.152-1 Debian-Security:10/stable [amd64])
Conf linux-image-amd64 (4.19+105+deb10u7 Debian-Security:10/stable [amd64])
Conf linux-libc-dev (4.19.152-1 Debian-Security:10/stable [amd64])
root@orca:~#
--
It looks to me like a straight upgrade with no removals.
>
> I'm also not quite sure about the spaces in the origin and label. The
> log suggests they are interpreted correctly, though you could try
> escaping them (the submitter in #940151 is using ', ' to separate the
> fields, which might be the cause for his issues).
I figured from the supplied origins that they are comma delimited, but
your point about spaces is a good one. I tried that.
--
"origin='Vivaldi Technologies',codename=stable,label='Official Vivaldi
package repository'";
--
--
root@orca:~# unattended-upgrades --dry-run -d
Initial blacklist :
Initial whitelist:
Starting unattended upgrades script
Allowed origins are: origin=Debian,codename=buster-updates,
origin=Debian,codename=buster,label=Debian,
origin=Debian,codename=buster,label=Debian-Security, origin='Vivaldi
Technologies',codename=stable,label='Official Vivaldi package repository'
Using
(^linux-image-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-headers-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-image-extra-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-modules-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-modules-extra-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-signed-image-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-image-unsigned-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^kfreebsd-image-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^kfreebsd-headers-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^gnumach-image-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^.*-modules-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^.*-kernel-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-backports-modules-.*-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-modules-.*-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-tools-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-cloud-tools-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-buildinfo-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*|^linux-source-[0-9]+\.[0-9\.]+-.*)
regexp to find kernel packages
Using
(^linux-image-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-headers-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-image-extra-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-modules-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-modules-extra-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-signed-image-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-image-unsigned-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^kfreebsd-image-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^kfreebsd-headers-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^gnumach-image-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^.*-modules-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^.*-kernel-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-backports-modules-.*-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-modules-.*-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-tools-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-cloud-tools-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-buildinfo-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$|^linux-source-4\.19\.0\-11\-amd64$)
regexp to find running kernel packages
Checking: linux-image-amd64 ([])
Checking: linux-libc-dev ([])
Checking: vivaldi-stable ([])
pkgs that look like they should be upgraded: linux-image-amd64
linux-libc-dev
Fetched 0 B in 0s (0 B/s)
fetch.run() result: 0
http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/l/linux-signed-amd64/linux-image-4.19.0-12-amd64_4.19.152-1_amd64.deb'
ID:0 ErrorText: ''>
check_conffile_prompt(/var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-4.19.0-12-amd64_4.19.152-1_amd64.deb)
No conffiles in deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-4.19.0-12-amd64_4.19.152-1_amd64.deb (There
is no member named 'conffiles')
http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/l/linux-latest/linux-image-amd64_4.19+105+deb10u7_amd64.deb'
ID:0 ErrorText: ''>
Re: Importer données Firefox
On Monday 19 October 2020 15:20:05 Gaëtan PERRIER wrote: > Le lundi 19 octobre 2020 à 14:43 +0200, ajh-valmer a écrit : > > On Monday 19 October 2020 12:58:40 Gaëtan Perrier wrote: > > > Tes données sont dans ton home et ne seront pas effacées. > > > Firefox devrait les charger directement et te prévenir des > > > extensions qui ne seront le cas échéant plus compatible > > > avec la version 78 : > > Dans le répertoire : /home/user/.mozilla/ ? > > (lequel ?) > Oui en général mais ça peut aussi être /home//.firefox J'ai quasi réussi, ayant retrouvé mes marques pages, historique, mais plus l'écriture prédictive dans la barre d'adresse, et les enregistrements des login + mot de passe. Pas grave, je les recréerai. Merci à tous ceux qui m'ont répondu.
Re: Zoom.
>>> Isn't it funny that we consider ourselves "liberal democracies", but >>> when crossing our $COMPANY's doorstep, we leave our convictions at the >>> wardrobe? >> In an ideal world one could just refuse to do so and quit the job. > There are many other things one can do, Among them I forgot to mention an important one: you can "refuse to do so" but without quitting your job. Of course, there's the risk you'll get fired, but there are many jobs where the employer may prefer some other course of action, especially if you combine your refusal with a reasonable counter offer. Stefan
Re: [rech] script traitement par lot d’image ?
Le dimanche 18 octobre 2020 à 15:30:02 UTC+2, Marc Siegwald a écrit : > Le 18/10/2020 à 07:55, ptilou a écrit : > > Bonjour, > > > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/4Jb7w57haK9uQxGr6 > > Voilà 30 images prises à un intervalle de 1 mn, en astronomie le club du > > Havre propose un logiciel gratuit sous MS, c’est un astronome de Boston qui > > me l’a confié. > > > > J’ai d’autre exemple de «stack » de photos. > > > > J’aurais aimer savoir c’est quoi le script qui détecte les similitudes > > d’images, par exemple Google photo, au bout de X heures, proposent > > d’enregistrer divers choses (animation, panorama, etc ) > > > > Je pose la question avant de me lancer dans une recherche, j’ai trouvé une > > commande sous imagemagick pour assembler les photos, mais je n’ai rien vu > > pour détecter les photos à assembler, dois je m’orienter dans l’utilisation > > de opencv pour réaliser cela ? > > > > J’ai aussi l’idée de savoir si la commande hdr, qui est apparue y a quelque > > temps, c’est juste l’assemblage de 3 photos, ou il y a quelque chose > > d’autre, pourquoi doit on utiliser une biblio spécifique sous imagemagick, > > est-ce que quelqu’un l’a fait ? > > > > Désoler pour le lien Google, j’ai été déménagé > > Je vais compléter par une ligne de commande pour le stack imagemagick, le > > temps que je trouve . > > > > — > > Ptilou > > > Bonjour, > > En astrophoto pure (par exemple stack de photos lunaires ou > planétaires), on utilise plusieurs logiciels à la suite : PIPP, > Autostakkert 3 ou Registax. Ce sont tous des logiciels Windows à la > base, mais utilisables sous Debian et Wine. (petit bémol pour Registax > dont la compatibilité n'est pas optimale). > composite -dissolve 50 in1.png in2.png -alpha Set out.png Un exemple de stack, on est pas obligé de se limiter à : composite -dissolve, d'autre commande existe, et ma question est comment par quel algo, determine t'on les images à selectionner, pour imagemagick, est-ce que le module perl n'est pas plus adapté, sinon ici c'est logiciel libre et donc Gimp fait ce que tu propose, moi je cherche un automatisme, dans la commande choisie par imagemagick, et un deuxieme automatisme dans le choix des images, comme google photos le fait c'est que c'est public, juste quelqu'un qui me donne l'info sur l'algo, opencv est peut etre un bon debut de piste, y a que moi qui fait de la photo en ligne de commande ? > Fais une recherche sous Youtube sur "la chaîne astro" ou "astronote" ou > "Dk astronomie" pour des utilisations détaillées et chaînées des > différents logiciels. > > Bonne journée, Merci, je paye mon houblon au Fosdem ! > > Marc > > PS : et désolé pour le mail privé, j'ai cliqué trop vite Pas de souci google mail marche bien -- ptilou
Re: Zoom.
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 11:21:21AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> Isn't it funny that we consider ourselves "liberal democracies", but > >> when crossing our $COMPANY's doorstep, we leave our convictions at the > >> wardrobe? > > In an ideal world one could just refuse to do so and quit the job. > > There are many other things one can do, starting with consistently > and repeatedly pointing out the problems in using such services, using > them as little as possible and using alternatives whenever possible > (rather than following the path of least resistance and keep using the > proprietary tool in circumstances where it's not necessary, simply > because you have it setup already), ... Exactly. No need to die in a hill for it :) Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Zoom.
> But this isn't an ideal world, is it? No, but the recent societal changes due to the pandemic have made an enormous difference: for many (most?) people now 100% of their communications outside of their immediate family (including the most intimate/private ones) goes through proprietary code under the control of companies which owe nothing to those people. To make matters worse, this is a small handful of companies which control (and can record, archive, analyze, ...) the whole world's communication. The power they can wield is hard to fathom. Stefan
Re: Zoom.
>> Isn't it funny that we consider ourselves "liberal democracies", but >> when crossing our $COMPANY's doorstep, we leave our convictions at the >> wardrobe? > In an ideal world one could just refuse to do so and quit the job. There are many other things one can do, starting with consistently and repeatedly pointing out the problems in using such services, using them as little as possible and using alternatives whenever possible (rather than following the path of least resistance and keep using the proprietary tool in circumstances where it's not necessary, simply because you have it setup already), ... Stefan
Re: Zoom.
On Mon 19 Oct 2020 at 09:37:01 (+0200), Sven Hartge wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 05:40:04PM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > >> Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Does anyone have Zoom working in Debian 10? > > >>> Don't know, but I use and recommend Jitsi as a Free Software > >>> alternative. > > >> If The Powers That Be[tm] have decided to use Zoom, then it is > >> irrelevant that there might be a better (Open Source) alternative. > > > Isn't it funny that we consider ourselves "liberal democracies", but > > when crossing our $COMPANY's doorstep, we leave our convictions at the > > wardrobe? > > In an ideal world one could just refuse to do so and quit the job. Not a hill I'd choose to die on. > But this isn't an ideal world, is it? Cheers, David.
Re: WiFi adapter MAC address spoofing
On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 13:18:52 + Xianwen Chen (陈贤文) wrote: > I would like to set a permanent MAC address spoofing for both the > Ethernet and the Wife adapters. ... > After rebooting, I run "ip addr" to check MAC addresses. The > Ethernet's MAC address is changed, but not the WiFi adapter. Not all Ethernet or WiFi adapters are capable of changing MAC addresses. Back in the early days, all MAC addresses were hard coded because that was simpler for manufacturers. It also meant that all MAC addresses were unique, so some manufacturers used the MAC address as a serial number for their cards. It also meant that you would never have a collision, two cards using the same MAC address on the same subnet. Now many of them can change MAC addresses. I notice that my iPhone under iOS 14 does so routinely (unless told not to) as an anti-tracking ruse. A down side of this capability is that a malicious actor could use the capability to spoof another device. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/
Re: wrong from field with alpine
On 2020-10-18, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > hi, > > when I send a mail with alpine, the from field becomes > "frenk...@laposte.net" instead of "p.frenk...@laposte.net" > > An obvious consequence is that people can't reply to this mail > > that looks like an alpine bug. I'll then make a bug report, unless > somebody tells me what I'm doing wrong. I believe the default local-part of the From address in Alpine is derived (as is the default personal name part) from the system password file (user login name). Pressing S (SETUP) in the main menu, then C (CONFIG) and adding the From value desired to the Customized Headers field should provide a satisfactory solution: From: Pierre Frenkiel Then again, if memory serves, it often appears in your always very individual case whatever is suggested either doesn't work, or even if it does, turns out somehow to be suboptimal. YMISTV (Your Mileage Invariably Seems To Vary). :-)
WiFi adapter MAC address spoofing
Hi, I would like to set a permanent MAC address spoofing for both the Ethernet and the Wife adapters. I set the following in /etc/network/interfaces: # # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). source /etc/network/interfaces.d/* # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # Change the ethernet's MAC address auto enp0s31f6 iface enp0s31f6 inet manual hwaddress ether 0a:eb:71:c8:c8:2b # Change the wifie adapter's MAC address allow-hotplug wlp2s0 iface wlp2s0 inet manual hwaddress ether 53:c0:43:08:2b:cc # After rebooting, I run "ip addr" to check MAC addresses. The Ethernet's MAC address is changed, but not the WiFi adapter. I also tried to set "allow-hotplug wlp2s0" to "auto wlp2s0". But then systemd (?) reported a problem with bring up networking. Yours sincerely, Xianwen
Re: Importer données Firefox
Le lundi 19 octobre 2020 à 14:43 +0200, ajh-valmer a écrit : > On Monday 19 October 2020 12:58:40 Gaëtan Perrier wrote: > > Tes données sont dans ton home et ne seront pas effacées. > > Firefox devrait les charger directement et te prévenir des > > extensions qui ne seront le cas échéant plus compatible > > avec la version 78 : > > Dans le répertoire : /home/user/.mozilla/ ? > (lequel ?) > Oui en général mais ça peut aussi être /home//.firefox Gaëtan signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: To enable TrueType fonts on uxterm by default
Thank you all! For me font size 13 is the better balance between visibility and space-efficiency. Otherwise everything works like a charm! Cheers, Xianwen On 2020-10-19 12:26, gru...@mailfence.com wrote: On Mon, 19 Oct 2020, Brian wrote: On Mon 19 Oct 2020 at 07:18:39 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: Xianwen Chen (?) wrote: Hi, When I hold Ctrl and right click on uxterm, a menu shows up, where I can click to enable TrueType fonts. I would like to enable TrueType fonts by default. I guess I could do it by setting it up in ~/.Xresources and use xrdb to merge it. However, I do not know which TrueType font(s) uxterm used, when I manually Ctrl + Right Click to enable it. Or, is there an option in a config file where I just ask uxterm to use TrueType and let uxterm to decide which TrueType font to use? The other way around: add a default font and you don't have to say anything else. xterm -fa 'Inconsolata' -fs 14 In my .Xresources I have: xterm*faceName: Inconsolata xterm*faceSize: 15 and xterm*renderFont: true
Re: Importer données Firefox
Bonjour, Le 19/10/2020 à 14:43, ajh-valmer a écrit : > On Monday 19 October 2020 12:58:40 Gaëtan Perrier wrote: >> Tes données sont dans ton home et ne seront pas effacées. >> Firefox devrait les charger directement et te prévenir des >> extensions qui ne seront le cas échéant plus compatible >> avec la version 78 : > > Dans le répertoire : /home/user/.mozilla/ ? > (lequel ?) > >> Le 19 octobre 2020 11:21:33 GMT+02:00, ajh-valmer a écrit : >>> Je souhaite passer de Firefox-esr version 68 à 78. >>> Impossible de l'updater, je suis invité à réinstaller >>> la version 78 en le téléchargeant sur le site. >>> Du coup, comment garder mes historiques, marques pages...? >>> Comment les importer depuis l'ancienne version ? >>> (on ne peut le faire que depuis Chrome ou Chromium, que je n'utilise pas). > a priori, ce devrait être le répertoire /home/user/.mozilla/firefox/x.default-esr cf la réponse de Belaïd Amicalement, jipege
Re: define (or translate, or substitute for) "interpolate": Re: rsync --delete
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:29:32AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: [...] > Interpolation - Wikipedia > en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Interpolation > In the mathematical field of numerical analysis, interpolation is a type of > estimation, a method of ... variable, may be contrary to commonsense, i.e. to > what is known about the experimental system which has generated the data > points. To be fair, you should quote wikipedia thoroughly. In the disambiguation page [1] you do find the current use: String interpolation, in computing, the substitution of variables by their values So that use is "out there". You better take note of it :-) Cheers [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpolation_(disambiguation) - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: define (or translate, or substitute for) "interpolate": Re: rsync --delete
On Monday, October 19, 2020 08:30:36 AM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Oops, forgot to say that of course I recognize that language (and word > meanings) evolve. > > On Monday, October 19, 2020 08:29:32 AM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Saturday, October 17, 2020 06:01:13 PM David Christensen wrote: > > > I don't use Bourne arrays, and I barely understand how the shell > > > interpolates lists and preserves items containing whitespace. When I > > > can't figure it out, I switch to Perl. > > > > I'm looking for an alternate thing to think of when I see the word > > interpolate -- I guess maybe interpret or substitute would be good ways > > for me to think about it (think when I see the word interpolate) (maybe > > see rant, below). > > > > Rant (to ignore): > > > > When I was in school, many years ago, I learned what I consider the > > "traditional" meaning of interpolate, typified by the following > > definitions / explanations found using google: > > > > define: interpolate > > > > Aside: I guess maybe the merriam-webster 1 b definition might be closest > > to the meaning intended, but I think the intention is more to substitute > > words. > > > > `= > > www.merriam-webster.com › dictionary › interpolate > > 1a : to alter or corrupt (something, such as a text) by inserting new or > > foreign matter. b : to insert (words) into a text or into a conversation. > > 2 > > > > : to insert between other things or parts : intercalate. 3 : to estimate > > > > values of (data or a function) between two known values. intransitive > > verb. > > > > Interpolation - Wikipedia > > en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Interpolation > > In the mathematical field of numerical analysis, interpolation is a type > > of estimation, a method of ... variable, may be contrary to commonsense, > > i.e. to what is known about the experimental system which has generated > > the data points. > > > > ... > > > > In computer graphics, interpolation is the creation of new values that > > lie between known values. ... Another example is when a video image in a > > low resolution is upscaled to display on a monitor with a higher > > resolution, the missing lines are created by interpolation. > > > > Definition of interpolation | PCMag > > www.pcmag.com › Encyclopedia › I > > =' > > > > define interpolation computing > > > > `= > > What is interpolation in computer science? > > In the context of live-action and computer animation, interpolation is > > inbetweening, or filling in frames between the key frames. It typically > > calculates the in-between frames through use of (usually) piecewise > > polynomial interpolation to draw images semi-automatically. > > > > ... > > > > Interpolation (computer graphics) - Wikipedia > > en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Interpolation_(computer_graph... > > Search for: What is interpolation in computer science? > > =' > > > > Don't know (really) why I bothered to write this, maybe just to express > > some frustration, or maybe by writing it I'll clear my brain slightly. I > > guess I could have written it and never sent it -- I'm occasionally that > > disciplined, but not always ;-)
Re: Importer données Firefox
On Monday 19 October 2020 12:58:40 Gaëtan Perrier wrote: > Tes données sont dans ton home et ne seront pas effacées. > Firefox devrait les charger directement et te prévenir des > extensions qui ne seront le cas échéant plus compatible > avec la version 78 : Dans le répertoire : /home/user/.mozilla/ ? (lequel ?) > Le 19 octobre 2020 11:21:33 GMT+02:00, ajh-valmer a écrit : > >Je souhaite passer de Firefox-esr version 68 à 78. > >Impossible de l'updater, je suis invité à réinstaller > >la version 78 en le téléchargeant sur le site. > >Du coup, comment garder mes historiques, marques pages...? > >Comment les importer depuis l'ancienne version ? > >(on ne peut le faire que depuis Chrome ou Chromium, que je n'utilise pas).
define (or translate, or substitute for) "interpolate": Re: rsync --delete
On Saturday, October 17, 2020 06:01:13 PM David Christensen wrote: > I don't use Bourne arrays, and I barely understand how the shell > interpolates lists and preserves items containing whitespace. When I > can't figure it out, I switch to Perl. I'm looking for an alternate thing to think of when I see the word interpolate -- I guess maybe interpret or substitute would be good ways for me to think about it (think when I see the word interpolate) (maybe see rant, below). Rant (to ignore): When I was in school, many years ago, I learned what I consider the "traditional" meaning of interpolate, typified by the following definitions / explanations found using google: define: interpolate Aside: I guess maybe the merriam-webster 1 b definition might be closest to the meaning intended, but I think the intention is more to substitute words. `= www.merriam-webster.com › dictionary › interpolate 1a : to alter or corrupt (something, such as a text) by inserting new or foreign matter. b : to insert (words) into a text or into a conversation. 2 : to insert between other things or parts : intercalate. 3 : to estimate values of (data or a function) between two known values. intransitive verb. Interpolation - Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Interpolation In the mathematical field of numerical analysis, interpolation is a type of estimation, a method of ... variable, may be contrary to commonsense, i.e. to what is known about the experimental system which has generated the data points. ... In computer graphics, interpolation is the creation of new values that lie between known values. ... Another example is when a video image in a low resolution is upscaled to display on a monitor with a higher resolution, the missing lines are created by interpolation. Definition of interpolation | PCMag www.pcmag.com › Encyclopedia › I =' define interpolation computing `= What is interpolation in computer science? In the context of live-action and computer animation, interpolation is inbetweening, or filling in frames between the key frames. It typically calculates the in-between frames through use of (usually) piecewise polynomial interpolation to draw images semi-automatically. ... Interpolation (computer graphics) - Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Interpolation_(computer_graph... Search for: What is interpolation in computer science? =' Don't know (really) why I bothered to write this, maybe just to express some frustration, or maybe by writing it I'll clear my brain slightly. I guess I could have written it and never sent it -- I'm occasionally that disciplined, but not always ;-)
Re: To enable TrueType fonts on uxterm by default
On Mon, 19 Oct 2020, Brian wrote: On Mon 19 Oct 2020 at 07:18:39 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: Xianwen Chen (?) wrote: Hi, When I hold Ctrl and right click on uxterm, a menu shows up, where I can click to enable TrueType fonts. I would like to enable TrueType fonts by default. I guess I could do it by setting it up in ~/.Xresources and use xrdb to merge it. However, I do not know which TrueType font(s) uxterm used, when I manually Ctrl + Right Click to enable it. Or, is there an option in a config file where I just ask uxterm to use TrueType and let uxterm to decide which TrueType font to use? The other way around: add a default font and you don't have to say anything else. xterm -fa 'Inconsolata' -fs 14 In my .Xresources I have: xterm*faceName: Inconsolata xterm*faceSize: 15 and xterm*renderFont: true
Re: Please be respectful
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 11:50:36AM +, Long Wind wrote: > > On Sunday, October 18, 2020, 8:12:54 AM EDT, wrote: > In general, this is a good strategy. Still, there are people > around who feel hurt by things and are too shy to speak up; > it's thinking of those that I do sometimes. > > > i'm able to keep quiet, because i remind myself that others' word isn't > necessarily truth. not responding doesn't necessarily mean tacitly admitting > i'm wrong. it's not easy to control one's feeling, but my experience has > taught me that it's often more difficult to change others' behavior. This is wise. As I said, I totally respect your position. I tried to explain how I try to do things, but I was in no way proposing that you do the same. This would be arrogant :-) > in your word i'm shy, actully i'm in poor health, i have to save energy, > getting angry isn't good to health. Sorry if I came across that way. I wasn't questioning your motives at all: I'm not entitled to that. As to your health, I wish you strength to cope with that. And good friends. Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: rsync --delete
On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 05:09:42PM -0500, Mike McClain wrote:
> Params=(-a --inplace --delete);
> Flash=/sda/rpi4b
> cd /home/mike
You forgot to check the result of this cd. This is critically important;
if the cd fails, you do NOT want the script to continue.
cd /home/mike || exit
> [ ! -d $Flash/mike ] && mkdir $Flash/mike;
You should quote correctly, as a good habit, even in the cases where
you're expanding a variable with known content.
Also, you don't need the separate is-a-directory check. You can replace
this line with:
mkdir -p "$Flash/mike"
> echo /usr/bin/rsync $Params --exclude-from=/home/mike/.rsync_exclude .
> $Flash/mike
You correctly made Params an array variable, but you didn't expand it
correctly. Also, you missed quotes in two places.
Finally, using an explicit /usr/bin/rsync is sketchy at best. You
should already have /usr/bin in your PATH.
echo rsync "${Params[@]}" --exclude-from=/home/mike/.rsync_exclude .
"$Flash/mike"
Re: To enable TrueType fonts on uxterm by default
On Mon 19 Oct 2020 at 07:18:39 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Xianwen Chen (?) wrote: > > Hi, > > > > When I hold Ctrl and right click on uxterm, a menu shows up, where I can > > click to enable TrueType fonts. > > > > I would like to enable TrueType fonts by default. > > > > I guess I could do it by setting it up in ~/.Xresources and use xrdb to > > merge it. However, I do not know which TrueType font(s) uxterm used, > > when I manually Ctrl + Right Click to enable it. Or, is there an option > > in a config file where I just ask uxterm to use TrueType and let uxterm > > to decide which TrueType font to use? > > The other way around: add a default font and you don't have to > say anything else. > > xterm -fa 'Inconsolata' -fs 14 In my .Xresources I have: xterm*faceName: Inconsolata xterm*faceSize: 15 -- Brian.
Re: rsync --delete
On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 03:01:13PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
> I try to use all lower case letters for variable names and all upper case
> letters for constants.
ALL_UPPER_CASE is reserved for internal shell variables, and environment
variables.
If you abuse it for "constants" as well, on your head be it. You must
take care to ensure that your ALL_CAPS variable does not collide with
any internal shell variables, or environment variables.
> I use braces whenever evaluating a variable -- '${Params}'. I forget the
> details why, but I do recall that this practice is important.
It isn't. It's entirely stylistic.
> I don't use Bourne arrays, and I barely understand how the shell
Bourne shell does not have arrays. Neither does POSIX shell.
> interpolates lists and preserves items containing whitespace. When I can't
> figure it out, I switch to Perl.
OK.
> -e ${SSH} -- where:
The stylistic curly braces are NOT a substitute for proper quoting.
> SSH=/usr/bin/ssh
>
>
> (To be pendantic, I should put single parentheses around the RHS?)
No. foo=(...) creates an array variable, and you are not using this
variable in an array manner.
> > cd /home/mike
>
> I prefer scripts that I can run from anywhere.
... hence, the cd inside the script. Doesn't matter where you call it
from, as long as the script cd's to the right location to do its work,
**AND VERIFIES THAT THE cd ACTUALLY WORKED**.
> If the script must change the working directory, I would display that --
> 'set -x', 'cd ...', and 'set +x'.
For god's sake, why?
> I use 'set -e'
NOOO
Re: webcam externe compatible Debian
Testé avec succès. Merci. De: "Jean Bernon" À: "roger tarani" Envoyé: Vendredi 16 Octobre 2020 22:48:22 Objet: Re: webcam externe compatible Debian J'utilise avec bonheur sur Buster une webcam Logitech Pro 9000. Connaissez-vous des références de webcam (pas trop) anciennes qui soient compatibles avec Debian Buster ? Celles que vous utilisez avec bonheur... Les Logitech sont nombreuses sur le marché et semblent offrir une compatibilité qui dépend du modèle. Merci
Re: rsync --delete
On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 12:58:04PM -0500, Mike McClain wrote: > As for your last question, the script is called from cron and I'm > never sure whether cron is going to be able to find things so have > just gotten into the habit of putting the path in. The line that actually appears *in* the crontab is interpreted by sh, so you should avoid bashisms there. You also need to escape % signs. Your script, however, is executed according to the shebang at the top of it. So, if you use bashisms in your script, you should have a #!/bin/bash shebang on it (assuming the script only needs to run on Debian systems).
Re: rsync --delete
On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 11:29:34PM -0700, Will Mengarini wrote:
> debian/pts/14 bash ~ 23:25 0$a="x y z"
> debian/pts/14 bash ~ 23:25 0$echo $a
> x y z
> debian/pts/14 bash ~ 23:26 0$echo "$a" # preferred
> x y z
> debian/pts/14 bash ~ 23:26 0$# When $a is embedded, quote *outer* string:
> debian/pts/14 bash ~ 23:27 0$echo "foo $a bar"
> foo x y z bar
> debian/pts/14 bash ~ 23:27 0$
You're so close here, but you drew the wrong conclusion.
When creating an array variable that contains a list of arguments,
you want each argument to be passed separately. That's the entire
purpose and point of the array variable.
unicorn:~$ args=(-v CFLAGS="-g -O" -q)
unicorn:~$ printf '{%s} ' "${args[@]}"; echo
{-v} {CFLAGS=-g -O} {-q}
Use an array variable, not a string variable, to hold a list of
arguments. Use the quoted [@] expansion to expand the array variable.
args=(... your arguments here ...)
somecmd "${args[@]}"
Any other usage is wrong, and will cause bugs eventually. See also
.
Re: rsync --delete
On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 12:30:50AM +0200, Klaus Singvogel wrote: > Mike McClain wrote: > > > A section of the backup script is so: > > Params=(-a --inplace --delete); > [...] > > Use instead: > Params=-a --inplace --delete Incorrect. This command will generate an error, as it should. Mike's command creates an array variable containing a list of 3 elements.
Re: To enable TrueType fonts on uxterm by default
Xianwen Chen (?) wrote: > Hi, > > When I hold Ctrl and right click on uxterm, a menu shows up, where I can > click to enable TrueType fonts. > > I would like to enable TrueType fonts by default. > > I guess I could do it by setting it up in ~/.Xresources and use xrdb to > merge it. However, I do not know which TrueType font(s) uxterm used, > when I manually Ctrl + Right Click to enable it. Or, is there an option > in a config file where I just ask uxterm to use TrueType and let uxterm > to decide which TrueType font to use? The other way around: add a default font and you don't have to say anything else. xterm -fa 'Inconsolata' -fs 14 -dsr-
Re: Importer données Firefox
Salut, Tes données sont dans ton home et ne seront pas effacées. Firefox devrait les charger directement et te prévenir des extensions qui ne seront le cas échéant plus compatible avec la version 78. Gaëtan Le 19 octobre 2020 11:21:33 GMT+02:00, ajh-valmer a écrit : >Bonjour à tous, > >Je souhaite passer de Firefox-esr version 68 à 78. > >Impossible de l'updater, je suis invité à réinstaller >la version 78 en le téléchargeant sur le site. > >Du coup, comment garder mes historiques, marques pages...? >Comment les importer depuis l'ancienne version ? >(on ne peut le faire que depuis Chrome ou Chromium, que je n'utilise pas). > >Merci de votre aide. > >A. Valmer > -- Envoyé de mon appareil Android avec Courriel K-9 Mail. Veuillez excuser ma brièveté.
Re: Importer données Firefox
Vérifiez qu'il n'y a pas un problème de droits d'accès aux fichiers. Le process lancé par un utilisateur normal n'a pas forcément les drois qu'il faut, ça dépend de la façon dont l'installation a été faite. Je souhaite passer de Firefox-esr version 68 à 78. Impossible de l'updater A. Valmer -- Bernard. 25 ans d'utilisation de Debian. Comme le temps passe...
Re: Importer données Firefox
On 10/19/20 9:37 AM, Michel wrote: Debian Buster sur plusieurs machines, l'upgrade s'est fait automatiquement lors de la mise à jour. Utilises-tu Buster toi aussi ? Bonjour, Idem sur Debian Stretch, Bonne journée, -- Frédéric ROBERT
Re: Importer données Firefox
Le 19/10/2020 à 11:30, ajh-valmer a écrit : > Bonjour à tous, > > Je souhaite passer de Firefox-esr version 68 à 78. > > Impossible de l'updater, je suis invité à réinstaller > la version 78 en le téléchargeant sur le site. > > Du coup, comment garder mes historiques, marques pages...? > Comment les importer depuis l'ancienne version ? > (on ne peut le faire que depuis Chrome ou Chromium, que je n'utilise pas). > > Merci de votre aide. > > A. Valmer > Debian Buster sur plusieurs machines, l'upgrade s'est fait automatiquement lors de la mise à jour. Utilises-tu Buster toi aussi ? Je n'ai eu qu'une petite chose à régler ( voir le fil Thunderbird du 13/10 à 19H00, encore merci à JC.EtiembleG ).
To enable TrueType fonts on uxterm by default
Hi, When I hold Ctrl and right click on uxterm, a menu shows up, where I can click to enable TrueType fonts. I would like to enable TrueType fonts by default. I guess I could do it by setting it up in ~/.Xresources and use xrdb to merge it. However, I do not know which TrueType font(s) uxterm used, when I manually Ctrl + Right Click to enable it. Or, is there an option in a config file where I just ask uxterm to use TrueType and let uxterm to decide which TrueType font to use? Yours sincerely, Xianwen
Re: Importer données Firefox
Bonjour, Il me semble qu'il faudrais au préalable sauvegarder ton profile firefox qui est par défaut dans : ~/.mozilla/firefox Le lun. 19 oct. 2020 11:21, ajh-valmer a écrit : > Bonjour à tous, > > Je souhaite passer de Firefox-esr version 68 à 78. > > Impossible de l'updater, je suis invité à réinstaller > la version 78 en le téléchargeant sur le site. > > Du coup, comment garder mes historiques, marques pages...? > Comment les importer depuis l'ancienne version ? > (on ne peut le faire que depuis Chrome ou Chromium, que je n'utilise pas). > > Merci de votre aide. > > A. Valmer > >
Importer données Firefox
Bonjour à tous, Je souhaite passer de Firefox-esr version 68 à 78. Impossible de l'updater, je suis invité à réinstaller la version 78 en le téléchargeant sur le site. Du coup, comment garder mes historiques, marques pages...? Comment les importer depuis l'ancienne version ? (on ne peut le faire que depuis Chrome ou Chromium, que je n'utilise pas). Merci de votre aide. A. Valmer
Re: how to download old edition
"Thomas Schmitt" writes: [...] > jigdo-lite's messages are not overly helpful in this case. > > Try jigdo-lite with "Debian mirror" > > http://archive.debian.org/debian-amd64 > > Although this is amd64 and not i386, the package matches, because it is > of "Architecture: all". > Thanks a lot. It worked. KJ -- http://stopstopnop.pl/stop_stopnop.pl_o_nas.html
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Re: Zoom.
Hi, tomas wrote: > Isn't it funny that we consider ourselves "liberal democracies", but > when crossing our $COMPANY's doorstep, we leave our convictions at the > wardrobe? Rental slavery is not in contradiction to the declaration of human rights. There are some regulations, though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_rights#International_Labor_Organization_%28ILO%29 I understand that you have the right to have your union protest against Zoom, but not the right to refuse using it for fulfilling your work duties. Have a nice day :) Thomas
Re: Zoom.
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 05:40:04PM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: >> Stefan Monnier wrote: Does anyone have Zoom working in Debian 10? >>> Don't know, but I use and recommend Jitsi as a Free Software >>> alternative. >> If The Powers That Be[tm] have decided to use Zoom, then it is >> irrelevant that there might be a better (Open Source) alternative. > Isn't it funny that we consider ourselves "liberal democracies", but > when crossing our $COMPANY's doorstep, we leave our convictions at the > wardrobe? In an ideal world one could just refuse to do so and quit the job. But this isn't an ideal world, is it? S! -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.
Re: how to download old edition
Hi, Kamil Jońca wrote: > Recently I tried to download old sarge jigdo images. > [...] > ‘./debian-31r8-i386-binary-14.iso.tmpdir/us.cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/snaps > hot/Debian/pool/main/z/zope-quotafolder/zope-quotafolder_0.1.1-1_all.deb’ > saved [16726/16726] > > Found 0 of the 1 files required by the template You are not the first to run into this packaging glitch. The package with that name was once overwritten by a newer version. So a file with that name can be found and downloaded, but it does not match the MD5 which is recorded for it in the ISO's .jigdo and .template files. jigdo-lite's messages are not overly helpful in this case. Try jigdo-lite with "Debian mirror" http://archive.debian.org/debian-amd64 Although this is amd64 and not i386, the package matches, because it is of "Architecture: all". If you are interested in the long story, there is a mailing list thread. Initial complaint about a m68k ISO: https://lists.debian.org/debian-68k/2020/05/msg00011.html and later about debian-31r8-i386-binary-14.jigdo https://lists.debian.org/debian-68k/2020/05/msg00042.html First steps towards success: https://lists.debian.org/debian-68k/2020/05/msg00033.html Easier location from where to obtain: https://lists.debian.org/debian-68k/2020/05/msg00040.html which is: http://archive.debian.org/debian-amd64/pool/main/z/zope-quotafolder/zope-quotafolder_0.1.1-1_all.deb If for some reason no mirror is available for an old package which can be downloaded from somewhere else, you may use the "Files to scan:" question of jigdo-lite, as i practiced in: https://lists.debian.org/debian-68k/2020/05/msg00037.html With files from questionable sources one should verify the resulting ISO by more checksums beyond MD5. Have a nice day :) Thomas
Re: Zoom.
On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 05:40:04PM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > Stefan Monnier wrote: > > >> Does anyone have Zoom working in Debian 10? > > > Don't know, but I use and recommend Jitsi as a Free Software > > alternative. > > If The Powers That Be[tm] have decided to use Zoom, then it is > irrelevant that there might be a better (Open Source) alternative. Isn't it funny that we consider ourselves "liberal democracies", but when crossing our $COMPANY's doorstep, we leave our convictions at the wardrobe? ;-) Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature
