Debian breaks commitment to support Lenny until after Wheezy is released
In an announcement[1] from 2009, Debian promised to support Lenny at least until the release of Wheezy: To accommodate the needs of larger organisations and other users with a long upgrade process, the Debian project commits to provide the possibility to skip the upcoming release and do a skip-upgrade straight from Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 (Lenny) to Debian GNU/Linux 7.0 (not yet codenamed). Now Debian announces[2] that it stops security support for Lenny. We are a mid-sized University subnet, with Debian Lenny on almost every computer. That's about 150 workstations and a couple of dozens of servers, both user-accessible and infrastructure. It generally takes us two or three months to implement, test, and deploy a release upgrade. We have lots of stuff that requires special attention when moving to a new release, like auto installer, configuration management system, 7GB of locally managed software in /usr/local/, etc. On top of that, we usually do distribution upgrades in the summer, between the terms, because we have students and instructors relying on our systems almost year round. We chose not to upgrade from Lenny last summer, for various reasons, knowing that we should be safe because there should still be support for Lenny at least all the way until Wheezy. Debian dropping support to Lenny so unexpectedly is an enormous problem for our organization. This means that we need to live without security updates in the time being, drop all of our other projects on the floor, and start working on upgrading to Squeeze between the Winter and the Summer terms. On top of that, we will be upgrading to Squeeze for only a year, because it is likely that Wheezy will be out by this time next year, so we'll have to spend a couple of months next year as well on another release upgrade. We are quite surprised by and upset with Debian deciding to terminate support for Lenny. We know that there are other networks at our university affected by the latest announcement just the same way we are. I am sure that there must be other organisations out there who are stuck in the same situation. I wonder what it would take to make Debian reconsider their decision with regards to termination of Lenny support, and stick with the promise from 2009. [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2009/msg9.html [2] http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120209 -- Arcady Genkin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cak7ktt8ofpcl1l1a5feynpdtz1y-l6vuu5gkvf3wti_i0j0...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian breaks commitment to support Lenny until after Wheezy is released
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 18:29, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: This announcement was made in the context of the plan to freeze (and consequently release) squeeze very fast (one year after lenny). Plans were changed (as mentioned in subsequent announcements) and squeeze had the typical Debian release cycle, which is why support for oldstable ends as usual. Thanks for your reply, Andrei. Plans for *Squeeze* were later changed (it was delayed), but I have not seen any announcements referring to any change of plans as far as support for Lenny was concerned. The plans for Lenny support were relative to the release date of Wheezy and was not promised as any concrete (absolute) number of years. Even if your interpretation of what happened is correct, I don't think that it would be reasonable to expect that the users were to infer the change of plans for support for Lenny without an explicit announcement. -- Arcady Genkin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cak7ktt9cdesqnp-cwcv-ssmhpfu7ccydudn3uhbztxuvfpa...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian breaks commitment to support Lenny until after Wheezy is released
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 18:53, Scott Ferguson
prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com wrote:
And subsequently noted that Squeeze was *not* released when anticipated.
I presumed that meant the upgrade from Lenny to Wheezy would not be
happening. (I'm cynical about release schedules and skip upgrades)
I wish we saw this coming, too.
NOTE: this subject has come up many times on various Debian lists over
the last year. I'm truly sorry you've not been aware of it.
We are subscribed to the announcements list, but we don't generally
monitor any other Debian lists.
I'm not sure there wasn't an official announcement subsequently - or
that the skip upgrade is no longer going to be available.
I just went over the archives of debian-announce for 200{9,10,11} and
found nothing. Perhaps I'm not seeing something that's there, though.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2011/
http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2010/
http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2009/
I also don't
understand your concern - Squeeze still has plenty of life, we don't
intend beginning the process of testing moves to Wheezy for another year
as we like to wait until teething problems are sorted first.
If Wheezy comes out in Feb 2013, then Squeeze will become unsupported
in Feb 2014, right? Since summer is the only convenient time for us
to do an upgrade, we'll have to do it in the summer of 2013, which is
a year from now.
AFAIK it was always going to be the case that Lenny support would end
two years after it's release.
Not according to the announcement I linked to in the original post.
The promise for extended support for Lenny was worded relative to the
release date of Wheezy, and not as a certain number of additional
years.
No where in the original announcement was an extended support lifetime
for Lenny discussed - only a skip upgrade *if* Squeeze was released early.
Quoting from the announcement once again:
To accommodate the needs of larger organisations and other users with
a long upgrade process, the Debian project commits to provide the
possibility to skip the upcoming release and do a skip-upgrade
straight from Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 (Lenny) to Debian GNU/Linux 7.0
(not yet codenamed).
I don't see any ifs there, it's all worded pretty straight forwardly.
Secondly, do you mean to say that possibility to skip the upcoming
release does not include promise of support? That would be totally
ridiculous, especially given that the exception is offered with
larger organisations in mind. Do you mean to say that the Debian
project was supposing that the larger organisations might want to
operate without security support for a year or two?!
And I can't account for why you did not know of the Lenny end of support
date.
My colleagues from a sibling network were equally surprised. Why
wouldn't we be if there was no announcement made?
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Re: Very slow LVM performance
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 02:05, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote:
lvcreate -i 10 -I [stripe_size] -l 102389 vg0
I believe you're losing 10x performance because you have a 10 disk mdadm
stripe but you didn't inform lvcreate about this fact.
Hi, Stan:
I believe that the -i and -I options are for using *LVM* to do the
striping, am I wrong? In our case (when LVM sits on top of one RAID0
MD stripe) the option -i does not seem to make sense:
test4:~# lvcreate -i 10 -I 1024 -l 102380 vg0
Number of stripes (10) must not exceed number of physical volumes (1)
My understanding is that LVM should be agnostic of what's underlying
it as the physical storage, so it should treat the MD stripe as one
large disk, and thus let the MD device to handle the load balancing
(which it seems to be doing fine).
Besides, the speed we are getting from the LVM volume is more than
twice slower than an individual component of the RAID10 stripe. Even
if we assume that LVM manages somehow distribute its data so that it
always hits only one physical disk (a disk triplet in our case), there
would still be the question why it is doing it *that* slow. It's 57
MB/s vs 134 MB/s that an individual triplet can do:
test4:~# dd of=/dev/null bs=8K count=250 if=/dev/md0
250+0 records in
250+0 records out
2048000 bytes (20 GB) copied, 153.084 s, 134 MB/s
If you specified a chunk size when you created the mdadm RAID 0 stripe, then
use that chunk size for the lvcreate stripe_size. Again, if performance is
still lacking, recreate with whatever chunk size you specified in mdadm and
multiply that by 10.
We are using chunk size of 1024 (i.e. 1MB) with the MD devices. For
the record, we used the following commands to create the md devices:
For N in 0 through 9:
mdadm --create /dev/mdN -v --raid-devices=3 --level=raid10 \
--layout=n3 --metadata=0 --bitmap=internal --bitmap-chunk=2048 \
--chunk=1024 /dev/sdX /dev/sdY /dev/sdZ
Then the big stripe:
mdadm --create /dev/md10 -v --raid-devices=10 --level=stripe \
--metadata=1.0 --chunk=1024 /dev/md{0,5,1,6,2,7,3,8,4,9}
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Re: Very slow LVM performance
I just tried to use LVM for striping the RAID1 triplets together
(instead of MD). Using the following three commands to create the
logical volume, I get 550 MB/s sequential read speed, which is quite
faster than before, but is still 10% slower than what plain MD RAID0
stripe can do with the same disks (612 MB/s).
pvcreate /dev/md{0,5,1,6,2,7,3,8,4,9}
vgcreate vg0 /dev/md{0,5,1,6,2,7,3,8,4,9}
lvcreate -i 10 -I 1024 -l 102390 vg0
test4:~# dd of=/dev/null bs=8K count=250 if=/dev/vg0/lvol0
250+0 records in
250+0 records out
2048000 bytes (20 GB) copied, 37.2381 s, 550 MB/s
I would still like to know why LVM on top of RAID0 performs so poorly
in our case.
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Re: Very slow LVM performance
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 14:54, Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com wrote:
Can you provide the commands from start to finish when building the volume?
fdisk ...
mdadm ...
pvcreate ...
vgcreate ...
lvcreate ...
Hi, Aaron, I already provided all of the above commands in earlier
messages (except for fdisk, since we are giving the entire disks to
MD, not partitions). I'll repeat them here for your convenience:
Creating the ten 3-way RAID1 triplets - for N in 0 through 9:
mdadm --create /dev/mdN -v --raid-devices=3 --level=raid10 \
--layout=n3 --metadata=0 --bitmap=internal --bitmap-chunk=2048 \
--chunk=1024 /dev/sdX /dev/sdY /dev/sdZ
Then the big stripe:
mdadm --create /dev/md10 -v --raid-devices=10 --level=stripe \
--metadata=1.0 --chunk=1024 /dev/md{0,5,1,6,2,7,3,8,4,9}
Then the LVM business:
pvcreate /dev/md10
vgcreate vg0 /dev/md10
lvcreate -l 102389 vg0
Note that the file system is not being created on top of LVM at this
point, and I ran the test by simply dd-ing /dev/vg0/lvol0.
My experience has been that LVM will introduce about a 1-2% performance
hit compared to not using it
This is what we were expecting, it's encouraging.
On a side note, I've never seen any reason to increase or decrease the
chunk size with software RAID. However, you may want to match your chunk
size with '-c' for 'lvcreate'.
We have tested a variety of chunk sizes (from 64K to 4MB) with
bonnie++ and found that 1MB chunks worked the best for our usage,
which is a general purpose NFS server, so it's mainly small random
reads. In this scenario it's best to tune the chunk size to increase
the probability that a small read from the stripe would result in only
one read from the disk. If the chunk size is too small, then a 1KB
read has a pretty high chance to be fragmented between two chunks,
and, thus, require two I/Os to service instead of one I/O (and, thus,
most likely two drive head seeks instead of just one). Modern
commodity drives can do about only 100-120 seeks per second. But this
is a side note for your side note. :))
From the man page to 'lvcreate' it seems that the -c option sets the
chunk size for something snapshot-related, so it should have no
bearing in our performance testing, which involved no snapshots. Am I
misreading the man page?
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Re: Very slow LVM performance
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 20:06, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: I had the same reaction Mike. Turns out mdadm actually performs RAID 1E with 3 disks when you specify RAID 10. I'm not sure what, if any, benefit RAID 1E yields here--almost nobody uses it. The people who are surprised to see us do RAID10 over three devices probably overlooked that we do RAID10 with cardinality of 3, which, in combination with --layout=n3 is almost an equivalent of creating a three-way RAID1 mirror. I'm saying almost because it's equivalent in as much as each of the three disks is an exact copy of the others, but the difference is in performance. We found out empirically (and then confirmed by reading a number of posts on the 'net) that MD does not implement RAID1 in, let's say, the most desirable way. In particular, it does not make use of the data redundancy for reading when you have only one process doing the reading. In other words, if you have a three-way RAID1 mirror, and only one reader process, MD would read from only one of the disks, so you don't get performance benefit from using the mirror. If you have more than one large read, or more than one process reading, then MD does the right thing and uses the disks in what seems to be a round robin algorithm (I may be wrong about this). When we tried using RAID10 with n=3 instead of RAID1, we saw much better performance. And we verified that all three disks are bit-to-bit exact copies. I just hope the OP gets prompt and concise drive failure information the instant one goes down, and has a tested array rebuild procedure in place. Rebuilding a failed drive in this kind of setup may get a bit hairy. Actually, it's the other way around because you get quite a bit of redundancy from doing the three-way mirroring. You are still redundant if you loose just one drive, and we are planning to have about four global hot spares standing by in case a drive fails. -- Arcady Genkin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktil-nzmsyi8ubqnblrbhqkvdr4angpgsvi9uh...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Very slow LVM performance
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 22:28, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: I'm curious as to why you're (apparently) wasting 2/3 of your storage for redundancy. Have you considered a straight RAID 10 across those 30 disks/LUNs? This is a very good question. And the answer is: because Linux's MD does not implement RAID10 the way we expected (as you have found out for yourself). We started out thinking exactly that we'd have a RAID10 stripe with cardinality of 3, instead of the multi-layered MD design. But for us it's important to have full control over what physical disks form the triplets (see below for discussion); instead, MD's so-called RAID10 only guarantees that there will be exactly N copies of each chunk on N different drives, but makes on promise as to on *which* drives. The reason the drive assignment is important to us is that we can achieve more data redundancy if we form each triplet from an iSCSI disk that lives on a different iSCSI target (host). Suppose that you have six iSCSI target hosts h0 through h5, and each of them has five disks d0 through d4. Then if you form the first triplet as (h0:d0, h1:d0, h2:d0), and so forth until (h3:d4, h4:d4, h5:d4), then if any iSCSI host goes down for whatever reason, then all triplets still stay up and are still redundant, only running on two copies instead of three. Linux's RAID10 implementation did not allow us to do this. So we had to layer by first creating RAID1 (or RAID10 with n=3) triplets, and striping them in a higher layer. I'm also curious as to why you're running software RAID at all given the fact than pretty much every iSCSI target is itself an array controller with built in hardware RAID. Can you tell us a little bit about your iSCSI target devices? Our boss wanted us to only use commodity hardware to build this solution, so we don't employ any fancy RAID controllers - all drives are connected to on-board SATA ports. Staying away from the black box implementations as much as possible was also part of the wish list. After dealing with all the idiosyncrasies of iSCSI and software RAID under Linux I am a bit skeptical whether what we are building is going to actually be better than a black-box fiber-attached RAID solution, but it surely is cheaper and more expandable. -- Arcady Genkin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinwfqgcutlg6rm0c5pmgtgzwnvfxc-kbzsdq...@mail.gmail.com
Very slow LVM performance
I'm seeing a 10-fold performance hit when using an LVM2 logical volume that sits on top of a RAID0 stripe. Using dd to read directly from the stripe (i.e. a large sequential read) I get speeds over 600MB/s. Reading from the logical volume using the same method only gives around 57MB/s. I am new to LVM and I need to for the snapshots. Would anyone suggest where to start looking for the problem? The server runs the amd64 version of Lenny. Most packages (including lvm2) are stock from Lenny, but we had to upgrade the kernel to the one from lenny-backports (2.6.32). There are ten RAID1 triplets: md0 through md9 (that's 30 physical disks arranged into ten 3-way mirrors), connected over iSCSI from six targets. The ten triplets are then striped together into a RAID0 stripe /dev/md10. I don't think we have any issues with the MD layers, because each of them seems to perform fairly well; it's when we add LVM into the soup the speeds start getting slow. test4:~# uname -a Linux test4 2.6.32-bpo.4-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Apr 8 10:20:24 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux test4:~# dd of=/dev/null bs=8K count=250 if=/dev/md10 250+0 records in 250+0 records out 2048000 bytes (20 GB) copied, 33.4619 s, 612 MB/s test4:~# dd of=/dev/null bs=8K count=250 if=/dev/vg0/lvol0 250+0 records in 250+0 records out 2048000 bytes (20 GB) copied, 354.951 s, 57.7 MB/s I used the following commands to create the volume group: pvcreate /dev/md10 vgcreate vg0 /dev/md10 lvcreate -l 102389 vg0 Here's what LVM reports of its devices: test4:~# pvdisplay --- Physical volume --- PV Name /dev/md10 VG Name vg0 PV Size 399.96 GB / not usable 4.00 MB Allocatable yes (but full) PE Size (KByte) 4096 Total PE 102389 Free PE 0 Allocated PE 102389 PV UUID ocIGdd-cqcy-GNQl-jxRo-FHmW-THMi-fqofbd test4:~# vgdisplay --- Volume group --- VG Name vg0 System ID Formatlvm2 Metadata Areas1 Metadata Sequence No 2 VG Access read/write VG Status resizable MAX LV0 Cur LV1 Open LV 0 Max PV0 Cur PV1 Act PV1 VG Size 399.96 GB PE Size 4.00 MB Total PE 102389 Alloc PE / Size 102389 / 399.96 GB Free PE / Size 0 / 0 VG UUID o2TeAm-gPmZ-VvJc-OSfU-quvW-OB3a-y1pQaB test4:~# lvdisplay --- Logical volume --- LV Name/dev/vg0/lvol0 VG Namevg0 LV UUIDQ3nA6w-0jgw-ImWY-IYJK-kvMJ-aybW-GAdoOs LV Write Accessread/write LV Status available # open 0 LV Size399.96 GB Current LE 102389 Segments 1 Allocation inherit Read ahead sectors auto - currently set to 256 Block device 254:0 Many thanks in advance for any pointers! -- Arcady Genkin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktiksmhwitdv1_iji72tak_1irx9dxpj2mccah...@mail.gmail.com
Customizing a source package (how to patch a deb-src?)
Suppose that I want to (1) specify my own flags to ./configure, and (2) apply a patch of my own to an app's source tree before the deb source package builds. Is this achievable with debian source packages? If yes, any pointers would be highly appreciated. Many thanks, -- Arcady Genkin Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Re: Neet to get PostgreSQL 7.0.X
Jorge Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I need to install PostgreSQL 7.0.X for my job, the version in potato is 6.5.X, so what options do I have, I have downloade the .deb from unstable but it has unmet dependencies. So what options do I have? I was thinking about upgrading to unstable but apt-get dist-upgrade reports that is going to uninstall several packages and I'm wondering if it is such a good idea. Well, summing it up, what is the best option to get PostgreSQL 7.0.X without breaking things? Make sure you have something like deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free in your /etc/apt/sources.lis, and then: su apt-get -b source postgresql If all goes well, you'll get the .debs of the Postgres 7.0.3, which you can install with dpkg -i -- Arcady Genkin Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
qmail logging (and in which package is accustamp)
Having replaced exim with qmail yesterday, I'd like to deal with the loggin issues, since qmail's logging is quite verbose. I notice that it logs seemingly identical information to all of the: /var/log/syslog /var/log/mail.info /var/log/mail.log and it logs identical error messages to both: /var/log/mail.warn /var/log/mail.err I find this to be a bit excessive. A look at /etc/init.d/qmail shows three options of handling the logging, the default one being the one that produces all this stuff. What are you guys using to keep the mail logs sane? Also, one of the options offers to pipe the logging info through `accustamp' program. I cannot find in which package the program is. A google search reveals that it comes as part of `qmailanalog' package, but it seems that this one is not available as a deb or a deb-src package (correct me if I'm wrong). p.s. Why is the default configuration of a newly-installed qmail (from package) TOTALLY EMPTY? Not even a me file: qmail-send refuses to start without it. Also, anyone know why the auto-configuration scripts that come with qmail distribution are excluded from the package? They are referenced to all over the documentation... Thanks for any input, -- Arcady Genkin Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Re: Need Help Compiling the DFE 530tx+ driver
Arlo White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: gcc -DMODVERSIONS -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c via3043.c This does not directly address the problem you are having, but AFAIK you are trying to compile the wrong driver. The 530TX+ are based on realtek 8139 chip, not via-rhine. The driver is in file rtl8139.c or some such. I remember that there are actually instructions for compiling it in the bottom of the file. Hope this helps, -- Arcady Genkin Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Building Xfree 4.0.3 source package on potato (debconf problem?)
I've been trying to compile my own X4.02 debs using apt-get source. The problem is that xfree v4.0.2 has libglide2-dev libglide3-dev as build dependencies. I was able to build the .deb's for the libglib, BUT, they won't install because my debconf is too old for them (they want debconf (= 0.3.74) while mine is 0.2.80.17. I tried building debconf from unstable, but it fails in the following way: , | dh_clean debian/debconf.changelog | dh_clean: Sorry, but 2 is the highest compatability level of debhelper \ | currently supported. | make: *** [clean] Error 1 | Build command 'cd debconf-0.9.22 dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed. | E: Child process failed ` This is is because debconf has a build dependency on a newer version of debhelper... I would really not like to get system utilities like debconf and friends from unstable. I'm wondering if I can get around that somehow... Are there apt-able sources for xfree4.0.2? Any other suggestions? Many thanks, -- Arcady Genkin Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Perl 5.6 and potato
I'd like to install Perl 5.6, without upgrading potato's default 5.005. Do you think that if I installed Perl 5.6 under /usr/local and renamed the executable to perl-5.6 for instance there would be any issues with using it or it interfering with Debian's vital utilities? I'm just starting out with Perl and need 5.6 because that's the version installed at school. Many thanks, -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
A secure FTP replacement
Is sftp not available as a Debian package? Couldn't find it in dselect. In any case, what are you folks using as a replacement for unsecure FTP protocol? I need a solution that would also provide my Windows users a viable method to transfer files to my server. Now that I've wrapped POP3 and IMAP in SSL, FTP is my last worry. Thanks for any input. -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re: A secure FTP replacement
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Arcady Genkin wrote: Is sftp not available as a Debian package? Couldn't find it in dselect. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~dpkg -p sftp Package: sftp Priority: optional Section: non-US snip Filename: dists/woody/non-US/main/binary-i386/sftp_0.9.5-1.deb snip Is it only available for woody? Here on potato I can'g find it: , | tea:/etc/apt$ dpkg -p sftp | Package `sftp' is not available. ` And this is freshly-refreshed package list. I do have non-us.debian.org in my sources.list. -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Control CPU fan's speed
So I got this new motherboard (ASUS CUSL2-C), and I hear that one of the Windows utilities that come with it can control CPU fan's speed. I thought that it would be very nice (I have no way of checking), since the native Intel's fan on my PIII wants to be a jet-plane turbine. In short, are there utilities to do such thing from under Linux? Many thanks, -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re: Control CPU fan's speed
Nate Amsden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So I got this new motherboard (ASUS CUSL2-C), and I hear that one of the Windows utilities that come with it can control CPU fan's speed. I thought that it would be very nice (I have no way of checking), since the native Intel's fan on my PIII wants to be a jet-plane turbine. for good reason! i got 12 fans in my box and a MASSIVE cpu fan(i think it pulls 25cfm or something) and my p3-800 still runs at 50C(AFAIK when its idle, as i can't query the cpu from linux yet lm_sensors doesn't support the chip..so 50C is from the bios) Hmm... In my case the CPU is barely even warm. It's a PIII-667 (not overclocked). My questions still stands, though: are there any utilities for interacting with BIOS for this purpose, anyone? -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re: syslogd and exim cron job every 20 minutes
Noah L. Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's no such syslog facility cron. Cron logs to the 'daemon' facility. The only way to tweak what cron messages you see is to adjust what daemon priorities get logged. Read the syslog and syslog.conf man pages. Hmm. And from where did you think I pulled out that one? :^) ,[ syslog.conf(5) ] |The facility is one of the following keywords: auth, auth╜ |priv, cron, daemon, kern, lpr, mail, mark, news, security |(same as auth), syslog, user, uucp and local0 through |local7. ` As I wrote in my previous message, ever since I added cron.!info; to the line that pipes to /dev/xconsole, I am not seeing the exim cron notifications any more. Thanks, -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re: syslogd and exim cron job every 20 minutes
mike polniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As I wrote in my previous message, ever since I added cron.!info; to the line that pipes to /dev/xconsole, I am not seeing the exim cron notifications any more. Did you mean : cron.!=info; ? ^^ Thank you, this seems to be the correct syntax. However, strangely my misspelled version cron.!info works too. ;^) -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
syslogd and exim cron job every 20 minutes
How would I get rid of the message about exim cron job being printed at /dev/xconsole? This job runs every 20 minutes and I would like not to see reports of it unless there was an error. ,[ /dev/xconsole ] | Jan 20 14:38:01 tea /USR/SBIN/CRON[5850]: (mail) CMD ( if [ -x \ | /usr/sbin/exim -a -f /etc/exim.conf ]; then /usr/sbin/exim -q \ | /dev/null 21; fi) ` I tried changing /etc/syslog.conf in several ways, but it seems like I can't put my finger on just the right thing to say there. I tried putting mail.!* and cron.!* into the last rule (the one that ends in |/dev/xconsole), but it doesn't do the trick. Any input greately appreciated! -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re: syslogd and exim cron job every 20 minutes
mike polniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How would I get rid of the message about exim cron job being printed at /dev/xconsole? This job runs every 20 minutes and I would like not to see reports of it unless there was an error. Edit /etc/cron.d/exim file. This would let me turn off or reschedule the exim cron job; but how would that let me change the logging of its runs? -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re: syslogd and exim cron job every 20 minutes
Noah L. Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, if you look at the line that's logged, you'll see that it's not coming from Exim at all, but from cron. So changing the way syslog handles the mail facility won't help. Yes, that's why I tried adding cron.!* to the rule. But it seems that it was overriden by *.=info rule, which was below the cron.!*. The cron logs come from the daemon facility. I have the following line is syslog.conf: *.notice|/dev/xconsole The default rule looks like this: ,[ syslog.conf ] | daemon.*;mail.*;\ | news.crit;news.err;news.notice;\ | *.=debug;*.=info;\ | *.=notice;*.=warn |/dev/xconsole ` It seems that if I simplify it to the extent you propose, I might lose some information that I'd rather see. I *ony* wanted to get rid of cron logging its normal activities. In case anyone was following, changing the above to the following solved my problem. ,[ syslog.conf ] | daemon.*;mail.!*;\ | news.crit;news.err;news.notice;\ | *.=debug;*.=info;\ | cron.!info;\ | *.=notice;*.=warn |/dev/xconsole ` Cheers, -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Suspend to RAM on a desktop computer
I've got this new ASUS CUSL2-C motherboard which supports suspending to RAM function. In the manual, though, it says that one needs Windows operating system to do that. Is there any chance to utilize this functionality with Linux? Many thanks, -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
ATA-100 disk under 2.2.18 -- horrible performance
I have an IBM ATA-100 30G harddrive, attached to a ASUS CUSL2-C (Intel 815EP-based) mobo. The kernel is not even using the drive in UDMA mode. The performance is *horrible*: every time I copy to the disk the CPU usage goes up all the way and I'm seeing things like load average: 5.47, 5.02, 3.27, which is only caused by disk access. ,[ dmesg ] | PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device f9, VID=8086, DID=244b | PCI_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later | ide0: BM-DMA at 0xa800-0xa807, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio | ide1: BM-DMA at 0xa808-0xa80f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio | hda: QUANTUM FIREBALLP LM10.2, ATA DISK drive | hdc: IBM-DTLA-307030, ATA DISK drive | ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 | ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 | hda: QUANTUM FIREBALLP LM10.2, 9797MB w/1900kB Cache, CHS=19906/16/63, UDMA | hdc: IBM-DTLA-307030, 29314MB w/1916kB Cache, CHS=59560/16/63 ` As you can see, the other HD (which is an ATA-66 Quantum) is at least used in UDMA mode. What is the reason the kernel dislikes the drive so much? ;^) Do you suppose I've missed some option in kernel configuration? Any other possible reasons? Could the fact that the whole drive is one 30G ext2fs partition have anything to do with the slowness? Many thanks for any suggestions, -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re: Netscape 6 for Linux ?
irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was reading that there is a netscape version 6 available for Linux. Has anyone tried it out? Can anyone foresee any problems in me downloading it and installing on my computer. I tried it. No problems installing it at all. BUT, I don't recommend using it. NN6 is just a re-packaged Mozilla milestone 18, which is not very fresh. There have been at least two more releases of Mozilla since M18, so NN6 is quite outdated. Also, you have to register NN6, which I found a cumbersome pocess; you don't have to register Mozilla. All that said, either of the browsers is by no means a finished product. They are slow, bulky, and buggy. Gotta say that I love Mozilla's rendering engine + international languages support. -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re: ATA-100 disk under 2.2.18 -- horrible performance
Nate Amsden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ,[ dmesg ] | PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device f9, VID=8086, DID=244b | PCI_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later looks like the system doesn't know what kind of controller it is try patching from www.linux-ide.org Woohooo! ,[ dmesg ] | PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev f9 | PIIX4: chipset revision 1 | ... | hdc: IBM-DTLA-307030, 29314MB w/1916kB Cache, CHS=59560/16/63, UDMA(100) ` Thanks!!! The only question is whether I used the right patch. There seem to be two different kinds of patches (judging from the filename format), but no documentation about the difference between them. Any idea what the difference would be between: ide.2.2.18.1221.patch.gz and ide.2.2.18-27.all.20001208.patch.gz besides that the first one is newer? I used the first patch. Many thanks, -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re: Turning off services SOLVED
Stefan Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What i'm doing usually is to rename the init-script under /etc/init.d/ to original-filename.NO. This will affect all runlevels but i don't care. IMO it's simple and quite obvious (for me at least). Anyone got a better idea ? What I do is ``chmod -x'' on the unwanted file in /etc/init.d/. This prevents them from being loaded. Essentially the same thing as you do, but I think that this way the script is going to be deleted if the package it belongs to is removed. -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re: Printing to legal paper (urgent help needed)
Chris Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ag psnup -plegal -Pletter -10 report.ps /tmp/rep10.ps First of all, have you tried it without the -Pletter in there? Yes, I put it in there later in hope that it would make a difference. There's not too much output from apropos paper -- you might look through there. Paperconfig looks especially promising. Yep, good call! Changing /etc/papersize from letter to legal was all it took. Funny that the man page for lpr (or man pages for PS utilities) doesn't mention paper configuration. Also, it seems strange that there seems to be no way to override the setting with a command-line parameter. All I needed was to print two legal-sized pages, and then go back to letter-sized... In any case, thanks for your reply! -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Printing to legal paper (urgent help needed)
Hello: I *really* need to print a document to a legal-size paper. I formatted a document using psnup to fit 10 pages on one side: psnup -plegal -Pletter -10 report.ps /tmp/rep10.ps and when I open it with gv, I can see all ten pages, but only if I choose `legal' from the drop-down list of paper sizes (which shows as BBox otherwise). When sent to the printer (regardless if I do it from `gv' or with plain `lpr'), I only get eight of the pages printed (and the space for the two other pages is left unoccupied). I.e. the page is printed as if on a letter-sized paper. My understanding is that lpr does not understand that the document is formatted for legal paper. I have HP DeskJet 697 for a printer and I use it with magicfilter, modified to use hpdj driver. I'm lacking clue as to how to remedy or debug the problem; would anyone please help? Many thanks, -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re: Long finle names on a CD-ROM not visible
urbanyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: have you tried mounting it with vfat support? sorry i don't have the command right now (newbie, me), but i'll look through my notes and send it along (assuming somebody doesn't get to it before i do!). The problem was with the Joliet support. I had it compiled as a module, and somehow it went missing. After I recompiled the modules, all is good. Thanks to everyone who answered! -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Long finle names on a CD-ROM not visible
All of a sudden when I mount a CD-ROM the long filenames show messed-up, like: -r-xr-xr-x1 root root 664 Jan 19 1999 aqf83a~1.m3u dr-xr-xr-x1 root root 2048 Jan 19 1999 aquari~1.aro/ I am sure that I used to see normal file names on the same CD-ROM previously. Any idea what went wrong all of a sudden? ,[ /etc/fstab ] | /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0 0 ` Many thanks, -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Netscape 6.0
Greetings, I've installed Netscape 6.0 for a friend of mine. It looks pretty cool, finally the user can change displayed font size without going to preferences... The ugly HTML forms' elements are gone, too. However the product seems to be too slow; it looks like a lot of debugging stuff is still in the executable. We encountered two problems, and I wonder if anyone could help me fight those. 1. The activation procedure. We went throught hte registration stuff once, but it failed. Then we restarted, entered the same username+password, and it wasn't recognizing the pair. In the end Netscape gave up and just started the browser. But now every time it is started anew, an activation dialog comes up (completely blank) for a few seconds, then dissappears, and Netscape starts. Any ideas how to rerun Activation or get rid of this 15-seconds delay? 2. In the mail reader the new messages are not bolded. The Inbox word is bolded and shows 4 new messages, but in the mailbox summary panel there is no indication as to what messages are unread. Many thanks -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Perl installation problem
I suspect that there is a problem with the perl installation as packaged with Potato. I'm trying to install pilotmanager program (http://www.moshpit.org/pilotmgr/), and am getting the following error: Configuring PilotManager... You do not have the correct binary of the Tk module installed in either your PilotManager distribution or your perl installation. Please read README.porting for information about how to download and install this module. Error details: - Tk object version 800.015 does not match bootstrap parameter 800.014 \ at /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux/DynaLoader.pm line 188. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 1) line 1. - I don't know very much about perl internals. How can I fight this? Thanks for any input, -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re: Perl installation problem
Walt Mankowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Tk object version 800.015 does not match bootstrap parameter 800.014 \ at /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux/DynaLoader.pm line 188. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 1) line 1. - I don't know very much about perl internals. How can I fight this? It sounds like you just don't have the Perl Tk module installed. Try apt-get install perl-tk Walt, thanks for your reply, but I do have perl-tk installed. It is clear from the error message that the problem is version mismatch or something of that sort. Any further ideas? Many thanks, -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
forcing D-Link 530 into Full-Duplex
I have a D-Link 530 card using a compiled-in via-rhine driver as eth0. The card is talking to an identical card in a computer that runs FreeBSD. I'm seeing collisions on the Linux side of the link, and am wondering what parameters I should pass the kernel to force the card into Full-duplex 100base mode, and how to pass those params. (I already did that on the FreeBSD side). FWIW, here's the output from ifconfig and dmesg: ,[ dmesg ] | via-rhine.c:v1.01 2/27/99 Written by Donald Becker | http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/via-rhine.html | eth0: VIA VT3043 Rhine at 0xe800, 00:50:ba:a9:13:f6, IRQ 10. | eth0: MII PHY found at address 8, status 0x782d advertising 05e1 Link . | PCI latency timer (CFLT) is unreasonably low at 32. Setting to 64 clocks. ` ,[ ifconfig ] | eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:BA:A9:13:F6 | inet addr:192.168.1.2 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 | UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 | RX packets:448934 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 | TX packets:266302 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 | collisions:7766 txqueuelen:100 | Interrupt:10 Base address:0xe800 ` Thanks! -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re: forcing D-Link 530 into Full-Duplex
Alvin Oga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: try using the RT1839 driver instead ??? Well, I know that I'm using the correct driver. My question is ``How do I pass it parameters; and what parameters should I pass to force it into full-duplex?'' I have a D-Link 530 card using a compiled-in via-rhine driver as eth0. The card is talking to an identical card in a computer that runs FreeBSD. I'm seeing collisions on the Linux side of the link, and am wondering what parameters I should pass the kernel to force the card into Full-duplex 100base mode, and how to pass those params. (I already did that on the FreeBSD side). FWIW, here's the output from ifconfig and dmesg: ,[ dmesg ] | via-rhine.c:v1.01 2/27/99 Written by Donald Becker | http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/via-rhine.html | eth0: VIA VT3043 Rhine at 0xe800, 00:50:ba:a9:13:f6, IRQ 10. | eth0: MII PHY found at address 8, status 0x782d advertising 05e1 Link . | PCI latency timer (CFLT) is unreasonably low at 32. Setting to 64 clocks. ` ,[ ifconfig ] | eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:BA:A9:13:F6 | inet addr:192.168.1.2 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 | UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 | RX packets:448934 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 | TX packets:266302 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 | collisions:7766 txqueuelen:100 | Interrupt:10 Base address:0xe800 ` -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
The list configuration (bounced messages)
Every time I post to this list I get at least three bounces saying that this or that user's mailbox is full and the message could not be delivered. Is this a list misconfiguration (which should be reported as a bug) or can I configure something on my side not to get those messages? -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re: Getting CPU load (from /proc/?)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson) writes: You could try 'vmstat 1', which will poll every second. Ignoring the first line, which is an up to the time vmstat was started figure, the last field in each line is the percentage of time the CPU is idle. Cool! Where could I get its source code? Or would anyone tell me if there is a system call or C function to get the percentage of time the CPU has been idle? Thanks! -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re: Getting CPU load (from /proc/?)
David Z Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AG How would I get a real-time CPU load information? I found AG /proc/loadavg, but that's not what I need, since it only gives average AG load values. My /proc/loadavg looks like 0.04 0.06 0.07 3/56 959 The first three numbers are the average load over the past 1, 5, and 15 minutes, as is reported by 'uptime' and what not. 3/56 means that three processes are currently running, out of 56 total. 959 is the pid of the last process to run, here corresponding to a 'cat' process. Right. But those are *average* values. I'd like to be able to read real-time CPU load info. For instance, if I run a CPU-intensive process, the value in /proc/loadavg will change very slowly. I need to be able to read that CPU is 100% busy at least one second after this happens. -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Getting CPU load (from /proc/?)
How would I get a real-time CPU load information? I found /proc/loadavg, but that's not what I need, since it only gives average load values. Thanks! -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re: booting with lilo win2k
Bob McGowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is just a guess on my part, but you may actually need to have other= pointing somewhere else. If you have support in your kernel for NTFS and/or FAT/VFAT, you could try mounting the Windows/DOS filesystems you have and look for the one which has NTLDR on it. Bob, thanks a lot! Your guess was absolutely correct. I had a fat16 partition at hda3 prior to installing w2k in a brand-new NTFS partition at hda1. It did install its installer into hda3 for whatever reason (without prompting). Pointing other to hda3 resolved the situation! Thanks again, -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
booting with lilo win2k
Yesterday I had to install Win2000; while I suspected that it would overwrite the MBR (where lilo lives), I had a boot floppy ready and restored the MBR w/o problems. However I can't figure out how to multiboot into it using LILO as my main boot manager. Searching the web produced some suggestions on adding linux into the W2K's boot menu, but I would prefer to stick with lilo all the way. Adding the following to lilo.conf: , | other = /dev/hda1 | label = win ` doesn't seem to cut it; I get an error message Cannot find NTBF. or some such, after which the only optoin is C-A-Del. Is there a clean solution to this problem? Will I have to reinstall Win2K since I hosed its MBR? Thanks for any pointers, -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re: booting with lilo win2k
Just as a follow-up to myself, in case it matters, the partition where win2k is installed is in NTFS. -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re: booting with lilo win2k
William Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: other=/dev/hda3 -- notice hda3, make sure that yours points to the label=win correct partition..ie is win2k really on hda1? That's funny. Is your /dev/hda3 an NTFS partition? I have the following in my lilo.conf: ,[ lilo.conf ] | boot=/dev/hda | install=/boot/boot.b | map=/boot/map | prompt | vga = normal | linear | | image = /zImage | root = /dev/hdd2 | label = linux | append = mem=96M | read-only | | other = /dev/hda1 | label = win | table = /dev/hda ` LILO comes up OK at boot time, and boots linux just fine. If I choose `win', then it attempts to boot Win, but I see a message: `NTLDR is missing. Press Cntrl+Alt+Delete.' win2k *is* on /dev/hda1, which I verified with fdisk just now. I tried removing the `table=/dev/hda' option, but it made no difference. Any further ideas? -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re: Expiring mail
Christopher Mosley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm looking for something that would be able to: 1. Delete messages older than a specified date. 2. Move messages older than a specified date (i.e. archive them away). This would be quite easy if your mail is in Maildir format. Since you say mailbox I assume this is not the case. Qmail used to create mbox by default with the option to compile with Maildir. This is a valid point, but for several reasons I prefer mailboxes. For one I am subscribed to many maling lists with high traffic, and I don't want to waste inodes. Also, I'm not sure if procmail will work with maildir. I also use Qmail, but have it deliver to mailboxes. So, the question is still open; Is there a utility to be run from cron to go through mailboxes and expire messages by deleting them or archive them by moving somewhere else? Thanks! -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re: procmail - filtering already received mails
Florian Friesdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: for i in `ls`; do echo -n $i: ; procmail $i rm $i; echo done.; done I still don't understand what was going on, but with this one it worked fine. (for i in `ls`; do echo -n $i: ; procmail $i rm $i; echo done.; done) ../log 21 Not to say that this is the cause of slowness, but you may still want to change the `ls` to *. This will save running ls, and opening and closing a pipe: for i in *; do ... -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Expiring mail
Are there any non-interactive tools to expire mail from a mailbox? I have procmail spliting my mail into many mailboxes, and then use my mailreader's expiry functionality. I would like to rather run something from crontab. I'm looking for something that would be able to: 1. Delete messages older than a specified date. 2. Move messages older than a specified date (i.e. archive them away). Thanks for any pointers! -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
alternatives to fdisk
What alternatives to fdisk are there? I remember I used one once, but shoot me if I remember the name. ;^) Thanks, -- Arcady Genkin Thanks God I'm still an atheist! -- Luis Bunuel
fdisk reports 4.2BSD partitions instead EXT2
I'm experiencing some problems with fdisk reporting BSD partitions on a disk with ext2 partitions. I think that I did have a BSD slice on there at the very beginning, but I don't remember whether it's still there. It could be hdc2, but I couldn't figure out a way to mount the partitions from it. Below is the output from fdisk. I don't know how to manipulate the partitions this way... `mount' mounts hdc1, hdc4, hdc5 and hdc6 without a problem. hdc3 is linux swap. How could I get to the partitions from Linux? Thanks for any hints! ,[ fdisk ] | Disk /dev/hdc: 16 heads, 63 sectors, 26500 cylinders | Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 bytes | | 8 partitions: | # start end size fstype [fsize bsize cpg] | a:1 7*6*4.2BSD 1024 819216 | b:7* 32* 25* swap | c:1 1663* 1662*unused0 0 | e: 32* 57* 25*4.2BSD 1024 819216 | f: 57* 83* 25*4.2BSD 1024 819216 | g: 83* 1663* 1580*4.2BSD 1024 819216 ` ,[ dmesg ] | Partition check: | hdc: hdc1 hdc2 hdc5 hdc6 hdc3 hdc4 ` ,[ mount ] | /dev/hdc1 on /mnt/hdc1 type ext2 (rw) | /dev/hdc4 on /mnt/hdc4 type ext2 (rw) | /dev/hdc6 on /mnt/hdc6 type ext2 (rw) | /dev/hdc5 on /mnt/hdc5 type ext2 (rw) ` -- Arcady Genkin Thanks God I'm still an atheist! -- Luis Bunuel
Helix's gimp1.1 deb's and aalib1 out of date
Hi all: Trying to install gimp1.1 from the helix'es DEBs, I've run in a problem that it depends on aalib1 =1.2-29, but the aalib1 which is available is version 1.2-25. Any ideas where this package is available from for potato? Here's what I have for my sources.list: ,[ sources.list ] | deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free | deb http://non-us.debian.org potato/non-US contrib main non-free | deb ftp://ftp.netgod.net x/ | #deb http://security.debian.org/ potato updates | deb ftp://security.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US contrib main non-free | # deb ftp://ftp.netgod.net/debian potato contrib main non-free | | deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main ` Thanks! -- Arcady Genkin Thanks God I'm still an atheist! -- Luis Bunuel
Writing man pages in anything other than troff
Are there any good tools for writing man pages other than troff? Thanks for any info! -- Arcady Genkin Thanks God I'm still an atheist! -- Luis Bunuel
Re: Writing man pages in anything other than troff
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are there any good tools for writing man pages other than troff? Most of us use text editors to write man pages. I was actually going to do something like `cat /dev/audio file.1', but now you got me thinking... ;^) While I won't say that it _couldn't_ be done with troff, I certainly don't know how. Oh, we're being *so* witty! As for the question in your subject, if it isn't an nroff source file, it isn't a man page. Thank you for pointing out three obvious things, you are very helpful! But... Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. It's just that I find writing in straight troff format a pain. I was looking for a different _formatting language_ to write a man page in, later to be converted into troff by some _tool_. Joey Hess suggested `pod', and after a quick look into the documentation it seems like the kind of thing I was looking for. -- Arcady Genkin Thanks God I'm still an atheist! -- Luis Bunuel
Linux on Desktops -- Are there stats anywhere?
My bank rolled out a new version of web banking, which has a bug in Java Script. I sent them a bug report, to which I got a polite reply which boils down to ``Tough luck. We don't test on Linux.'' I'm writing a letter to them, and would like to include some statistics as to how many desktop computers run Linux nowadays. Is anyone aware of any surveys on this subject? Thanks! -- Arcady Genkin Thanks God I'm still an atheist! -- Luis Bunuel
Specify dial string for PPP connection with pppconfig
I'm trying to switch off modem sound when connecting to the ppp service provider, but can't seem to find a place to stick in M0 in the dial string... Is there a standard way of doing it? Thanks! -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Thanks God I'm still an atheist! -- Luis Bunuel
Re: qmail
Jay Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: addresses but not others. For example when I try to mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] I receive an error Host not found but I can mail other email addresses. any thoughts will help It's @lists.debian.org (note the `s' in the end of `lists'). -- Arcady Genkin Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Does Windows regenerate MBR by itself?
A friend of mine is experiencing a weird situation with multy-booting. I installed Linux for him on a second harddrive all by itself, and installed Lilo into MBR on /dev/hda to mutli-boot Linux and Windows (Windows off /dev/hda1, and Linux off /dev/hdc1). This worked fine for about a month until today, when he called me and told that he no longer sees LILO's boot prompt, but the computer boots straight into Windows every time now (all of a sudden). A very similar thing happened on the same computer, when he had NT and Win98 installed (in the same partition). NT's mutlibooter worked fine untill some point, and then it just vanished, and the computer started booting straight into Win98. My friend claims he did nothing at all that could cause this. Could it be that Windows repairs the MBR by removing a foreign multy-booter and overwriting it with the native one to only boot Windows? If so, what could have caused this behavior. I've never heard of anything like this. Granted, I haven't used Windows much, and know very little about it. I'm going over tomorrow to reinstall LILO for him. How can I prevent something like this happening again? Thanks for any ideas! -- Arcady Genkin Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Tool to draw E-R diagrams?
Is there a free tool to draw E-R diagrams out there? Thanks! -- Arcady Genkin Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Re: Tool to draw E-R diagrams?
Preben Randhol [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a free tool to draw E-R diagrams out there? Have you looked at dia? http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/dia.html Thanks! Looks cool. PS: Why isn't there a reply-to the list address on this list. Because they are evil and some RFCs prohibit them. ;^) -- Arcady Genkin Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Re: php3-mode for xemacs
martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: short question: does anyone know of a php3 mode for xemacs? developing php3 in html-mode is sort of annoying :-) http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~baryudin/php3_mode.html -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Getting Gnome to run (unable to bind port 16001)
I'm trying to configure a point-and-click Linux installation for a friend of mine. I have been trying to get Gnome running, but to no avail... From gnome's docs it seems like all it takes is to put exec gnome-wm into X initialization file. I am using wdm, and suspect that it could be more difficult than that. The installation is a brand-new install of Potato. So far I tried three approaches: 1. Chosing failsafe (only an xterm displayed, no window manager) from wdm, and trying to run gnome-wm from there. I get an error Unable to bind port 16001. 2. Adding gnome-wm to the selection of windowmanagers in /etc/X11/wdm/wdm-config. This didn't work, and wdm just starts the previous windowmanager. 3. Put exec gnome-wm into ~/.xsession. This yeilds nothing. Any suggestions? Like I said, the system is stock Potato with gnome and the rest installed by apt. On another note, is gnome-panel an application? I.e. should there be an executable with name gnome-panel? I installed the gnome-panel package, but the executable with this name is nowhere to be found. Thanks! -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Re: Getting Gnome to run (unable to bind port 16001)
Eric G . Miller egm2@jps.net writes: Think gnome-wm wants gnome-name-service, gnome-session running first. I could be wrong. The docs are not as clear as they could be ;) According to Gnome's docs, if one doesn't want session management, he can start gnome-wm instead of gnome-session. Honestly, I can think of little use for session management, but that's not the main point... I wonder what that port 16001 thingy is. -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Re: Installing without rebooting (running the installation proggie from within Linux)
Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about downloading base2_1.tgz (or base2_2.tgz if you want to go straight to frozen) and untarring that into the new partition before chrooting into it? In case anyone was following this thread, here are a couple of gotchas that I ran into: 1. I couldn't boot into the new system, getting You are trying to boot into unconfigured base system or somesuch message, which offered me to boot usint the Rescue disk. chmod -x /sbin/unconfigured.sh fixed that problem. 2. I had to remove pcmcia and nfs related packages, which are installed by default. Apart from those, all went very smooth. -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Re: Installing without rebooting (running the installation proggie from within Linux)
Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 01:37:09PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: While this is fine for building up a system once the base image has been created, I believe you'll find it easiest to install the base by booting the system. How about downloading base2_1.tgz (or base2_2.tgz if you want to go straight to frozen) and untarring that into the new partition before chrooting into it? Excellent! Worked like a charm, thanks a lot! The install was quick and enjoyable. ;^) -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Installing without rebooting (running the installation proggie from within Linux)
Hi all: Is it possible to run the Debian installation program on a workstation which runs Linux? My friend has given me his HD to install Debian onto it, and I hooked it up and partitioned already. I would like to do an FTP install for him without losing my productivity (read: without booting off a floppy). Is it possible to simply mount whatever floppy image I need off /dev/fd0 and run the installation program? If so, what is the program's name? If anyone has had experience with doing this, I would appreciate any suggestions. -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Re: OT: Help! I need emacs html mode
Maury R. Merkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, one of my two major remaining problems is that I just need emacs' html mode 'cause I maintain some rather large Web sites and I won't know what to do without it. All I know is that whenever I installed or upgraded xemacs before, it's always been there. I have never understood (or had to understand) anything about configuring emacs. Now the emacs and xemacs installed with potato did not have it. I don't know about xemacs .deb packages, since I have always compiled my own xemacs, but the reason could be that latest versions of xemacs use package system that allows you automatically download and install different modes as packages. Read Xemacs's docs on packages, and make sure that hm--html is installed. The packages can be managed thru menus Options-Manage Packages. Apart from that, I find the following in my .emacs: (autoload 'html-mode psgml-html Load psgml-html-mode t) (add-hook 'html-mode-hook 'hm--html-minor-mod) HTH -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Re: Trouble with toy network
All seems to be fine. Are you sure you are using cross-over (not straight-thru) cable between the cards? Just a shot in the dark. (BTW, the cable going into the DSL modem is probably a straight-thru one -- in case you were trying it to interconnect the machines.) Also, try running setup/diagnostics programs on the cards and check that they are both switched to the right medium and pass tests. -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Re: Print Email the same document
Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been trying to do this off-and-on for two years, and although I've had lots of help, nothing has ever worked. Can I assume that it's impossible to print and email a document from one command? There is a utility that splits a file into two pipes, but I'll be damned if I can remember how it's called. Anyone? Other than that, can't you just write a very simple shell script (like another follow-up suggests)? -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
magicfilter vs. apsfilter
Has anyone had experience with both of these filter packages? What are the notable differences? On another note, I wonder why neither of them seems to support hpdj driver by default... -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
lpd troubles (can't enable lp2 lp3 spools)
My printcap specifies three printers: lp|lp1, lp2, and lp3 with spools in /var/spool/lpd/(lp1|lp2|lp3). These are all for the same printer on /dev/lp0, but with different options (draft, normal, best). While lp1's status is always OK, lp2 and lp3 are always disabled (as follows from `status' files in their spol directories). I can't figure out why. I tried using `lpc' command to `clean', `enable', and `start' the stubborn printers, but to no avail. ,[ Here's a round of `lpc's ] | tea:/etc# lpc clean lp2 | lp2: | tea:/etc# lpc enable lp2 | lp2: | queuing enabled | tea:/etc# cat /var/spool/lpd/lp2/status | printing disabled | tea:/etc# lpc start lp2 | lp2: | printing enabled | lpc: connect: Connection refused | couldn't start daemon ` ,[ FWIW, here's my /etc/printcap ] | lp|lp1|HP Deskjet 697C Draft:\ | :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp1:\ | :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ | :if=/etc/hpdj/hpdj-draft:\ | :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: | | lp2|HP Deskjet 697c Normal:\ | :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp2:\ | :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ | :if=/etc/hpdj/hpdj-normal:\ | :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: | | lp3|HP Deskjet 697c Best:\ | :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp3:\ | :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ | :if=/etc/hpdj/hpdj-best:\ | :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: ` Thanks for any ideas!!! -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Re: lpd troubles (can't enable lp2 lp3 spools)
Bruce Sass [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My printcap specifies three printers: lp|lp1, lp2, and lp3 with spools in /var/spool/lpd/(lp1|lp2|lp3). These are all for the same printer on /dev/lp0, but with different options (draft, normal, best). Hmmm, those are all valid names for lineprinter devices (parallel ports), it is probably best to pick some other names to use... just to eliminate the possibility that the software thinks you are referring to different parallel ports. Bruce, thanks for your suggestion. I tried renaming the printers in the printcap to something different, creating their spool directories, restarting lpd, but the problem persists. , | tea:/etc/init.d# lpc enable lpn | lpn: | queuing enabled | tea:/etc/init.d# lpc start lpn | lpn: | printing enabled | lpc: connect: Connection refused | couldn't start daemon ` I have a feeling that the problem lies with some networking issue (since the *connection* is refused). Which is kinda weird, since these are all local printers. -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Re: mp3
Les Dowthwaite [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. (*) text/plain ( ) text/html HiCan you help.Do you know of a free program that will convert MP3 to WAVE.Thanks Xmms would do it. Just change the output plugin from OSS driver to Disk writer or something of that sort. p.s. Please post in plain text and wrap your lines at 72 characters. -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Re: /dev/null: permission denied - problem
Stephan Hachinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: /bin/sh: /dev/null: Permission denied Well, have you actually looked what the permissions to /dev/null look like? ls -l /dev/null. They should be crw-rw-rw- root.root. -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Re: Plextor CD-ROM (was: cd-rom jitter)
Carel Fellinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 07:26:15PM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote: Eventually the CD-ROM extracts everything perfectly, but those :-| have been annoying me. I have a feeling that the CDROM's firmware might be buggy. I got this 12/20 Plex a year ago (retail box). When I you might try a firmware upgrade, you can get it at their webside (www.plextor.be). There even seems to be a free-third-party linux flash program! Really? That's pretty cool!.. Unfortunately, this drive's firmaware cannot be flashed, as far as I know. -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Plextor CD-ROM (was: cd-rom jitter)
Carel Fellinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I only get + or ! when the disks are severely ruined, normally all bright smileys. I've an ultraplex scsi cdrom and a ide plexwriter, both perform great under linux and windows, so I guess something is wrong at your side. Is it a scsi? is it properly terminated etc? does it work under windows? (try http://www.ExactAudioCopy.de for a windows variant of cdparanoia) is the cd impecable? This happens with *any* CD, even brand new ones. I have Tekram DC-390F for a scsi card. I think that there is no problem with termination, as everything (the CD-ROM, CDR, and scanner) connected to the card functions properly. Eventually the CD-ROM extracts everything perfectly, but those :-| have been annoying me. I have a feeling that the CDROM's firmware might be buggy. I got this 12/20 Plex a year ago (retail box). When I got it Plextor already had the Ultraplex out, so the model was kinda old when I bough it. I think that I ought to contact Plextor's tech. support. I have heard that they are usually very good about replacing drives with buggy firmware (provided that it *is* buggy). I have no idea how the drive performs under Windows. (I boot there very rarely only when I absolutely have to.) I might as well try the proggie that you recommend the next time, though, thanks! Can anyone define `jitter' as applicable to a CD-ROM? (or direct me to a resource where it's explained) IIRC jitter in this context means that rereads of the same part of an audio-cd gives a series of samples that are slightly out of pace, some missing or extra at the start and end. But the plextor shouldn't have this problem, unless the disk itself is bad. So I have heard, and that's why I have chosen Plextor over others. Thanks for your reply. -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
cd-rom jitter
When using cdparanoia, it *always* shows :-|, which stands for Considerable jitter, and often :-/. I've been wondering, while having a Plextor CD-ROM, am I getting worth of what I have payed. Anyone extracting with mostly :-)? Can anyone define `jitter' as applicable to a CD-ROM? (or direct me to a resource where it's explained) I'm thinking of contacting Plextor tech. support about it, so I want to reas something on the topic before I do that. -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
installing Debian for an Unix-ignorant user (point-and-click installation)
Hi all: A friend of mine in a fit of anger directed to his Window~1 installation called me and asked if I would install Linux for him. We have discussed with him before, that everything he needs from a computer (web browsing, document/spreadsheet editing, email) can be done from within Linux using familiar to him graphical interfaces. His Win98 has been blue-screening on him way too often. Next week I'm going to install Debian on his computer. Basically, I am thinking of setting up Gnome, and stuffing everything he could need in a root menu and clickable icons. He is no dummy, but has very little knowledge of computers besides most common applications. Has anyone done this kind of setup? Are there any things that I should be forewarned about, perhaps? How easy is it to configure a ppp connection as a desktop icon? (I'm on a cable modem, and have never configured ppp under Linux). I'll be very greatful for any suggestions and ideas! -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Re: dselect: failed to getch in main menu: Success
Aaron Solochek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd like a copy of that too. There is a problem with dpkg_1.6.10 which gives this error. Please downgrade the dpkg file to dpkg_1.6.9. Could anyone send me the dpkg_1.6.9 package to downgrade with or are they archived on the debian site somewhere ? Instead, you might want to do apt-get update, and then apt-get upgrade. This will upgrade you to 1.6.11, which works. -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
.pfb .pfm font files
I have an archive of ps fonts from back in 1996. They have pfb and pfm extensions (for each font name there is a pair of files like foo.pfm and foo.pfb). Are these fonts usable with X? I'd imagine they were, because I have a directory /usr/lib/X11/fonts/freefont with a bunch of .pfb fonts. If yes, how do I create fonts.dir for them? `mkfontdir' expects pcf, cnf, or bfd extensions. Thanks! -- Arcady Genkin Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
play program -- which package?
What package is `play' program is in? Thanks! -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
xfs-xtt
Under potato, I've installed xfs-xtt. Are there any stock means to create fonts.dir in a directory with ttf fonts? The documentation that comes with xfs-xtt says nothing of this. I tried getting mkttfdir, which is part of perlftlib-1.2.tar.gz, available from http://www.io.com/~kazushi/xtt/#perlftlib, but it won't compile... and mkttfdir.pl doesn't work, saying mkttfdir.pl doesn't exist. ;^( Another question: Once I create fonts.dir, are there any other steps to configure the font server to use the ttf fonts? Thanks a lot for any input! -- Arcady Genkin Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
xfs-xtt configuration
Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: there is mkttfdir in fttools package. Thanks! My new question... After I successfully generated the fonts.dir file, and added FontPathunix/:7101 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/ to XF86Config, X no longer starts, and I'm seeing error messages that X cannot set default font path. Did I have to do some magic in /etc/X11/xfs/config? Here's what mine looks like. ,[ config ] | # /etc/X11/xfs/config | # | # X font server configuration file | | # allow a maximum of 10 clients to connect to this font server | client-limit = 10 | # when a font server reaches its limit, start up a new one | clone-self = on | # log errors using syslog | use-syslog = on | # turn off TCP port listening (Unix domain connections are still permitted) | no-listen = tcp | # paths to search for fonts | catalogue = /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/ | # in decipoints | default-point-size = 120 | # x1,y1,x2,y2,... | default-resolutions = 75,75,100,100 | deferglyphs = all | | # font cache control, specified in KB | cache-hi-mark = 2048 | cache-low-mark = 1433 ` Thanks for any input! -- Arcady Genkin Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Re: xfs-xtt
Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: damn, that might be it... do you happen to know of a way to lowercase letters in bash or some other way? i don't really want to mv THIS.TTF this.tff 215 times You can use mmv utility: mmv '*.TTF' #1.ttf should do the trick. Note: it will only change the extensions, i.e. THIS.TTF will become THIS.ttf. -- Arcady Genkin Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Firewall or router
Hi. I've just got a laptop computer. I already have a two-computer network running with a FreeBSD box doing NAT and firewalling, and a Debian box behind it. I need to obtain means of connecting my notebook to the 'net. Because I'm too cheap to buy a hub, and also because I have a bunch of networking cards lying around (that don't match), I put an extra NIC into the Debian box and connected the laptop to it. The network works fine. Laptop has IP 192.168.2.2, Debian box has IPs 192.168.2.1 (to the laptop), and 192.168.1.2 (to the firewall). The FreeBSD box has an IP of 192.168.1.1 on the inside, and a real IP on the outside. My question is: what do I want to do with my Debian box so that the laptop could talk to the 'net? As far as I understand, I just need to configure it a router (to route all traffict from 192.168.2.2 through 192.168.1.1), correct? Also, will I need to modify anything on my firewall? Do I need to add a routing entry for 192.168.2 network? I'm afraid it would try to look for it in the outside... FWIW, the laptop runs Slackware. Thanks for any comments, suggestions, etc.! -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Re: Firewall or router
Matthew Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The laptop needs the following settings: - Gateway - your Debian box (192.168.2.1) - a route to the 192.168.2.x network The Debian box needs: - forwarding enabled - Gateway - your FreeBSD pc (192.168.1.1) - a route to the 192.168.2.x network - a route to the 192.168.1.x network Mathew, thanks for your reply. I'm having a bit of a trouble here. I did on the Debian box to enable IP forwarding: echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward echo 0 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/rpfilter Then I did on the laptop: route add default gw 192.168.2.1 ,[ Debian box's routing table ] | tea:/usr/home/antipode$ /sbin/route -n | Kernel IP routing table | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface | 172.16.160.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 vmnet1 | 192.168.2.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth1 | 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 | 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG1 00 eth0 ` ,[ The laptop's routing table ] | espresso:~$ /sbin/route -n | Kernel IP routing table | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface | 192.168.2.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 | 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo | 0.0.0.0 192.168.2.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 ` Then I'm trying to ping 192.168.1.1 from the laptop, and can't. Traceroute to that address stops at 192.168.2.1, so I guess that the request is routed correctly, but the Debian box wouldn't forward it. Could somebody point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance! Hi. I've just got a laptop computer. I already have a two-computer network running with a FreeBSD box doing NAT and firewalling, and a Debian box behind it. I need to obtain means of connecting my notebook to the 'net. Because I'm too cheap to buy a hub, and also because I have a bunch of networking cards lying around (that don't match), I put an extra NIC into the Debian box and connected the laptop to it. The network works fine. Laptop has IP 192.168.2.2, Debian box has IPs 192.168.2.1 (to the laptop), and 192.168.1.2 (to the firewall). The FreeBSD box has an IP of 192.168.1.1 on the inside, and a real IP on the outside. My question is: what do I want to do with my Debian box so that the laptop could talk to the 'net? As far as I understand, I just need to configure it a router (to route all traffict from 192.168.2.2 through 192.168.1.1), correct? Also, will I need to modify anything on my firewall? Do I need to add a routing entry for 192.168.2 network? I'm afraid it would try to look for it in the outside... FWIW, the laptop runs Slackware. -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Solved (was: Firewall or router)
Arcady Genkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please never mind my previous message. All workes fine after I added routing info for 192.168.2.0 to the firewall's routing table. -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
can't ftp into box
Hi. I'm trying to install linux onto my notebook. It has no cdrom, so I'm trying to transfer some files via ftp from my debian box into the laptop (which runs win98 of course ;^( ). I've set up an ethernet link between the boxen, and have the laptop on 192.168.2.2, and the Debian box has 192.168.2.1 on the interface that talks to the notebook. I can ping either computer from either one. Moreover, I can telnet from the notebook into the Debian box w/o any problem. It's just to ftp into the debian box that I can't. I can ftp into the same computer from another box on my network (different subnet, though -- 192.168.1.*) with no problem. And no, I am not trying anonymous connection. An ftp session from ms-dos window looks like this: c:\ftp 192.168.2.1 ftp: connect :10061 ftp After which I can't execute any ftp command, getting Not connected message. I don't get any prompts to enter my user name or password. Any help greatly appreciated! Thanks! -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Re: can't ftp into box
Todd Suess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Once you are connected, try issuing the following commands: ftp user usernameenter ftp pass passwordenter Tried that. Doesn't work. ;^( I get the same stuff: Not connected. Now, I installed linux onto the laptop. Still can't ftp into the debian box. Furthermore, I cannot ftp into the laptop either! I can telnet both ways w/o any problems. Can ping both ways, too. I can use rcp! Just not ftp. Something must be rotten with network. I tried doing ftp -n, too. Any ideas? On Tue, 08 Feb 2000, Arcady Genkin wrote: Hi. I'm trying to install linux onto my notebook. It has no cdrom, so I'm trying to transfer some files via ftp from my debian box into the laptop (which runs win98 of course ;^( ). I've set up an ethernet link between the boxen, and have the laptop on 192.168.2.2, and the Debian box has 192.168.2.1 on the interface that talks to the notebook. I can ping either computer from either one. Moreover, I can telnet from the notebook into the Debian box w/o any problem. It's just to ftp into the debian box that I can't. I can ftp into the same computer from another box on my network (different subnet, though -- 192.168.1.*) with no problem. And no, I am not trying anonymous connection. An ftp session from ms-dos window looks like this: c:\ftp 192.168.2.1 ftp: connect :10061 ftp After which I can't execute any ftp command, getting Not connected message. I don't get any prompts to enter my user name or password. -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
What do these HD errors mean?
Feb 9 13:27:45 tea kernel: hdc: dma_intr: error=0x40 { \
UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=26406865, sector=25038000
Feb 9 13:27:45 tea kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 16:04 (hdc), \
sector 25038000
Feb 9 13:27:50 tea kernel: hdc: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady \
SeekComplete Error }
Feb 9 13:27:50 tea kernel: hdc: dma_intr: error=0x40 { \
UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=26406852, sector=25037984
Feb 9 13:27:50 tea kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 16:04 (hdc), \
sector 25037984
And so forth. The drive is an IBM 13G DeskStar (?) with 2M cache. The
kernel is 2.2.14. Thanks!
--
Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
DDD 3.1.99 expired
Hi all: Whenever I'm running ddd, I get a dialog informing me that ``DDD version (3.1.99) has expired since Monday, 2000-01-31, at 00:00. Please upgrade to the recent version.'' What's up with that? Running potato here, with ddd installed as a package. -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Re: Flash + Netscape (autodetection problems)
Eric G . Miller egm2@jps.net writes: I've installed Flash plugin for netscape. Neither of the sites can autodetect that the plugin is installed. Even at www.flash.com I had to click on If you know that you have Flash installed link. Typing about:plugins in netscape shows Flash installed. This is my experience also. I assume (right or wrong) that the web server doesn't interpret linux browsers so well. In the README.Linux file, it mentions this type of thing will occur if there's some kind of code checking your system or browser which fails to recognize it and thus assumes no support. Also, some sites don't have the MIME types configured properly. However, I have no problem with sites like macromedia. Well, I forgot to mention that when I had slink installed, the plugin worked fine with same sites, that are cureently not working under potato. Of course, this also means an upgrade from navigator 4.61 to 4.7. As an example, an intro at www.pizzahut.com used to work, but doesn't anymore. ;^( -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Flash + Netscape (autodetection problems)
Hi all! I've installed Flash plugin for netscape. Neither of the sites can autodetect that the plugin is installed. Even at www.flash.com I had to click on If you know that you have Flash installed link. Is there some trick to properly configure it? I'm using Navigator 4.7, and all I have done was installed files: /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/ShockwaveFlash.class and then created links in /usr/lib/netscape/47/navigator/plugins: libflashplayer.so - /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so ShockwaveFlash.class - /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/ShockwaveFlash.class Typing about:plugins in netscape shows Flash installed. Thanks for any input! -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Re: help with dselect
dkphoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've managed to install the base system and have gotten to dselect which first asks me to help locate the cd drive, with the prompt to enter: /dev/cdrom ...which I do. Then it asks me to help find the the dist on the CD. No matter what I enter, it says it can't find it. This is the standard Mac m68k CD #1, so it shouldn't have any trouble. What on earth is it wanting me to input? David, is the CD mounted? If not, have a look at mount command. -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Can't print from Gimp
Hi all: I have a problem printing from Gimp 1.1.14 to a postscript printer. My printer doesn't even start printing, although lpq shows the job in the que, and says that it's printing. I tried printing to a .ps file, and then I can successfully view it with gv and xv. But if I try lpr file.ps, then, again, nothing happens. I tried fiddling with postscript levels in Gimp, and that didn't help. All other applications (such as netscape, for example), print to the same printer w/o any problems. FWIW, the printer itself is an HP DeskJet 697c, and I use it with hpdj filter from ghostscript. My printcap looks like this: ,[ printcap ] | lp|lp1|HP Deskjet 697C Draft:\ | :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp1:\ | :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ | :if=/etc/hpdj/hpdj-draft:\ | :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: | | lp2|HP Deskjet 697c Normal:\ | :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp2:\ | :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ | :if=/etc/hpdj/hpdj-normal:\ | :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: | | lp3|HP Deskjet 697c Best:\ | :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp3:\ | :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ | :if=/etc/hpdj/hpdj-best:\ | :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: ` There's nothing at all in /var/log/lp-errs. I can print using Gimp's own HP DJ driver, but I really don't like that driver, for it's very inky. Any help highly appreciated! -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
CD-cataloguing program
Could somebody recommend a good cd-cataloguing program? It would be nice if it could handle data and audio cds, as well as read mp3 tags. Thanks! -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com 'What good is my pity? Is not the pity the cross upon which he who loves man is nailed?..' (Zarathustra - F. Nietzsche)
xcolorsel won't grab colors
Hi, Using the latest XFree packages from Potato, I'm having problems with xcolorsel not being able to grab a color. It craps out saying: tea:/usr/home/antipode$ xcolorsel X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) Major opcode of failed request: 91 (X_QueryColors) Value in failed request: 0x8000 Serial number of failed request: 1661 Current serial number in output stream: 1661 Any idea what this could be? Thanks! -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com 'What good is my pity? Is not the pity the cross upon which he who loves man is nailed?..' (Zarathustra - F. Nietzsche)
Re: ssh encryption
hypnos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I started sshd with the -d (debug) option to try to figure this out, and I think I have my answer, but I want to make sure. Am I correct in assuming that the encryption between client/server is started before any exchange of data takes place? Specifically, I'm wondering if the username is passed in clear-text or encrypted when using the -l username option to ssh client. User name and password sent over ssh are encrypted. -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com 'What good is my pity? Is not the pity the cross upon which he who loves man is nailed?..' (Zarathustra - F. Nietzsche)
Text conversion utils (dos2unix)
Which package do text conversion utilities come with? I'm looking for dos2unix primarily. Thanks! -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com 'What good is my pity? Is not the pity the cross upon which he who loves man is nailed?..' (Zarathustra - F. Nietzsche)
Re: Text conversion utils (dos2unix)
Jan Ludewig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 10:31:07AM -0500, Arcady Genkin wrote: Which package do text conversion utilities come with? I'm looking for dos2unix primarily. duconv I can't find this in dselect's list of available packages... Running potato here. -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com 'What good is my pity? Is not the pity the cross upon which he who loves man is nailed?..' (Zarathustra - F. Nietzsche)
