Re: su su- sudo dont work

[CL]

Am 27.01.24 um 10:23 schrieb Hans:

I see this exactly as you and are watching this list for may years.

However, I wanted not to be so directly because I want not to blame anyone on
this list.

But since the beginning, I had the suspicion, that someone just wants to make
fun with us.

Aleady from the beginning I checked after the mail adress (please note, I am
German myself) and found some theater group behind the mailadress.

So I personally(!) believe, the group is making fun with us, but even then I
gave him a chance.

And again I personally(!) (and this is my very personal opinion), I think,
nobody is so stupid, that he/she can not do a su or install a package. NOT
after 2 years!!!

For me, I will get no help here for this person, just ignore it. This is my
very personal decision!

Sorry to say it, but for me personally it looks like fake! Like a morone, like
a troll.

And those I can not support, sorry.

Please excuse, I do not want to hurt anyone, just tell, what I think.

Best regards

Hans


I see very similar posts in the German language list from the last two
years but as Tobias Schwibingerr or similar - also signed by a Sophie

When I asked this question some time ago, it seems that the German language
list had concluded that this person might be a troll (or even a psychology
experiment / AI) :(

Like you, I have attempted to engage - but I think none of us will see
any change - I think the German list pays no attention / may have blocked
this user.






Hello,

I agree completely with you.

Follow this list for appr. one year now and this "person" (Michael 
Schwibinger / Sophie / ???) pop up every couple of month.


He/She works always with the same "scam".

1. Came up with a simple sounding cry for help (Computer / OS destroyed 
or something else)
2. React on questions for clarification with stupid and even more 
confusing answers


What I notice that every popup it is a little bit better with the 
answers. They stay stupid and unrelated but the are more wordy.


So I think at the moment it is a troll who works with AI to generate 
some answers. But this is of course my personal opinion.


For a real psychological experiment the design of the experiment is much 
to poor.


I decided for me not care on threads which are based on a message of 
this persons.


The most disappointing thing is that there is no possibility to block 
such "contributors". As I know. Even a block won't really help. They 
might start with a new email in the same way again.



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Re: Panic again any idea

[CL]

Am 17.10.23 um 10:49 schrieb Schwibinger Michael:

Good morning
I did ask one year ago
but no answer here or in the www.
Debian has panic(=no booting) after update to 11.
Thank You for help

Regards
Sophie



Hallo again Michael or Sophie or whatever,

it seems your are back and made a new attempt of trolling us.

Right?

I will not make a lot of words but please read my statement to your 
annoying thread "EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you 
are using the wrong driver" you started at 14th, April this year.


This statement you will find under "Re: NEW problem PANIC AW: SOLUTION 
AW: EPSON ..." from 18th, May.


No more to add beside, ask right question and react according the 
followed requests and advice.


Thank you


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Re: HDMI not working

[CL]

Dear all,

just received a message from the seller of the laptop.

It seems that the problem is know and the Linux-Team work on it already 
under several bug reports.


e.g.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1994144

As I understand it is a bug in the Kernel itself.


**In any case I will say thank you to all who tried to help.**



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Re: HDMI not working

[CL]

Am 30.08.23 um 17:04 schrieb Hans:

Hi Chritian,


your chipset is Intel i915. Some search I found this:


https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Intel_graphics 
<https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Intel_graphics>



A hint, I found in several forums:


Deinstall xf86-video-intel (also seen in my link).


The link I sent with, offers some general methods, maybe these might 
help. And maybe you wat to try one or another.



I did not read the whole article, but IMO it offers lots of information 
to crwal through.



Hope this helps.


Good luck,


Hans



Am Mittwoch, 30. August 2023, 16:48:20 CEST schrieb CL:

 >  [Iris Xe Graphics]





Thank you for this hint.

But before I do this I will read the WIKI exactly and with some patience.

Will inform you about the result.


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Re: HDMI not working

[CL]

Am 30.08.23 um 17:07 schrieb Michel Verdier:

On 2023-08-30, CL wrote:


00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-UP3 GT2
[Iris Xe Graphics] [8086:46a8] (rev 0c)
DeviceName: Onboard - Video
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Alder Lake-UP3 GT2 [Iris Xe
Graphics] [103c:899b]
Kernel driver in use: i915
Kernel modules: i915


Look in you logs if you have something about i915, you perhaps need to
get some uptodate or missing firmware

  wget -r -l 1  https://anduin.linuxfromscratch.org/sources/linux-firmware/i915/
  rsync -av anduin.linuxfromscratch.org/sources/linux-firmware/i915/ 
/lib/firmware/i915/




Hello,

in the Xorg.0.log and Xorg.1.log I found following related to HDMI

```

[  2720.911] (II) config/udev: Adding input device sof-hda-dsp 
HDMI/DP,pcm=3 (/dev/input/event11)

[  2720.911] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[  2720.911] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[  2720.912] (II) config/udev: Adding input device sof-hda-dsp 
HDMI/DP,pcm=4 (/dev/input/event12)

[  2720.912] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[  2720.912] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[  2720.912] (II) config/udev: Adding input device sof-hda-dsp 
HDMI/DP,pcm=5 (/dev/input/event13)

[  2720.912] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[  2720.912] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.

```

What is the other thing exactly? I assume it will replace the firmware 
i915 with a current version right.
But I'm a little bit afraid to do this. My system knowledge is her 
really much to poor. What I have to do exactly?






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Re: HDMI not working

[CL]

Am 30.08.23 um 16:13 schrieb zithro:

On 30 Aug 2023 15:40, CL wrote:

Dear all,
[...]
During testing of the device I note that the HDMI interface doesn't 
work. A lot of GOOGLE shows me that sometimes problems with the 
implemented GPU IRIS Xe (Alder Lake-UP3 GT2) occurs. Also some of this 
problems were marked as solved. But either I didn't understand this 
solutions or they were not proper described (at least for me).


Show us what you found.
Maybe the problem has been solved in a newer kernel ?

If that's the case, you may try newer kernels from backports.



Hello,

sorry but it was a kind of random search. Don't documented it. My fault

I will try to reconstruct and send later



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Re: HDMI not working with Bookworm on HP17-CN2156ng laptop

[CL]

Am 30.08.23 um 16:22 schrieb Michael Kjörling:

On 30 Aug 2023 15:40 +0200, from cl.debian.mail...@t-online.de (CL):

this week I bought a new HP Laptop (HP17-CN2156ng).

a Bookworm - Gnome was installed originally but I replaced it with Bookworm
- XFCE.


Unrelated, but you could likely have got much the same effect by
simply `apt-get install xfce4`.


Yes, I think so also. Exactly therefore ordered this machine with a 
Devian installed. If Debian work in general than all desktops should 
work also.
I planned from begin to re-install wiht XFCE because this is my favorite 
desktop. Don't like Gnome.






During testing of the device I note that the HDMI interface doesn't work. A
lot of GOOGLE shows me that sometimes problems with the implemented GPU IRIS
Xe (Alder Lake-UP3 GT2) occurs.


https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Thinkpad/T14IntelGen3 looks
relevant, despite being for a different specific computer; it mentions
that specific GPU and that "switch to external screen" "only works
with a non-free driver and or firmware".



Looks very similar problem.

According Synaptic following packages are installed

- firmware-misc-nonfree
- firmware-intel-sound
- firmware-realtek
- firmware-sof-signed
- xserver-xorg-video-intel
I assume this is the source of the i915 driver.
Uninstalled this also for trial but no difference
- xserver-xorg-core
- xserver-xorg-video-all
- and some other xserver-xorg-video...




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Re: HDMI not working

[CL]

Am 30.08.23 um 16:26 schrieb Hans:

Hi,

fist of all, it would be nice, if you could tell us your hardware. Some
notebooks are using two graphic cards One in the CPU and one external. Mine
for example. has a NVidia card as external and an Intel chip built in the CPU.

Those are switched in linux with "bumblebee".

If we correctly know the hardware, we can explore more. The HDMI output is
sometimes controlled by the hardware (on my desktop computer it is the driver
from the external graphic card, which in my case is also an Nvidia card).

I suppose, Intel chips and AMD chips are doing the same. However, some intel
GPU drivers are built in the kernel, others need external packages.

So, let us know more and see, if we can help.

Best regards

Hans



Hello,

here the outcome of

```

lspci -nnk

00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:4601] (rev 04)
DeviceName: Onboard - Other
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:899b]
Kernel driver in use: igen6_edac
Kernel modules: igen6_edac
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Alder 
Lake-UP3 GT2 [Iris Xe Graphics] [8086:46a8] (rev 0c)

DeviceName: Onboard - Video
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Alder Lake-UP3 GT2 [Iris Xe 
Graphics] [103c:899b]

Kernel driver in use: i915
Kernel modules: i915
00:04.0 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Alder 
Lake Innovation Platform Framework Processor Participant [8086:461d] 
(rev 04)

DeviceName: Onboard - Other
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Alder Lake Innovation Platform 
Framework Processor Participant [103c:899b]

Kernel driver in use: proc_thermal_pci
Kernel modules: processor_thermal_device_pci
00:08.0 System peripheral [0880]: Intel Corporation 12th Gen Core 
Processor Gaussian & Neural Accelerator [8086:464f] (rev 04)

DeviceName: Onboard - Other
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company 12th Gen Core Processor Gaussian & 
Neural Accelerator [103c:899b]
00:14.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation Alder Lake PCH USB 3.2 
xHCI Host Controller [8086:51ed] (rev 01)

DeviceName: Onboard - Other
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Alder Lake PCH USB 3.2 xHCI Host 
Controller [103c:899b]

Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd
Kernel modules: xhci_pci
00:14.2 RAM memory [0500]: Intel Corporation Alder Lake PCH Shared SRAM 
[8086:51ef] (rev 01)

DeviceName: Onboard - Other
00:15.0 Serial bus controller [0c80]: Intel Corporation Alder Lake PCH 
Serial IO I2C Controller #0 [8086:51e8] (rev 01)

DeviceName: Onboard - Other
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Alder Lake PCH Serial IO I2C 
Controller [103c:899b]

Kernel driver in use: intel-lpss
Kernel modules: intel_lpss_pci
00:15.1 Serial bus controller [0c80]: Intel Corporation Alder Lake PCH 
Serial IO I2C Controller #1 [8086:51e9] (rev 01)

DeviceName: Onboard - Other
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Alder Lake PCH Serial IO I2C 
Controller [103c:899b]

Kernel driver in use: intel-lpss
Kernel modules: intel_lpss_pci
00:16.0 Communication controller [0780]: Intel Corporation Alder Lake 
PCH HECI Controller [8086:51e0] (rev 01)

DeviceName: Onboard - Other
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Alder Lake PCH HECI Controller 
[103c:899b]

Kernel driver in use: mei_me
Kernel modules: mei_me
00:17.0 SATA controller [0106]: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-P SATA AHCI 
Controller [8086:51d3] (rev 01)

DeviceName: Onboard - SATA
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Alder Lake-P SATA AHCI Controller 
[103c:899b]

Kernel driver in use: ahci
Kernel modules: ahci
00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:51bc] (rev 01)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:899b]
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:1d.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Alder Lake PCI Express x1 
Root Port #10 [8086:51b1] (rev 01)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Alder Lake PCI Express x1 Root Port 
[103c:899b]

Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation Alder Lake PCH eSPI 
Controller [8086:5182] (rev 01)

DeviceName: Onboard - Other
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Alder Lake PCH eSPI Controller 
[103c:899b]
00:1f.3 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Intel Corporation Alder Lake 
PCH-P High Definition Audio Controller [8086:51c8] (rev 01)

DeviceName: Onboard - Sound
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Alder Lake PCH-P High Definition 
Audio Controller [103c:899b]

Kernel driver in use: sof-audio-pci-intel-tgl
Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel, snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl
00:1f.4 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation Alder Lake PCH-P SMBus Host 
Controller [8086:51a3] (rev 01)

DeviceName: Onboard - Other
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Alder Lake PCH-P SMBus Host 
Controller [103c:899b]

Kernel driver in use: i801_smbus
 

HDMI not working

[CL]

Dear all,

this week I bought a new HP Laptop (HP17-CN2156ng).

a Bookworm - Gnome was installed originally but I replaced it with 
Bookworm - XFCE.


Output of

```
uname -a

Linux HP17cn2156ng 6.1.0-11-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.38-4 
(2023-08-08) x86_64 GNU/Linux


```

During testing of the device I note that the HDMI interface doesn't 
work. A lot of GOOGLE shows me that sometimes problems with the 
implemented GPU IRIS Xe (Alder Lake-UP3 GT2) occurs. Also some of this 
problems were marked as solved. But either I didn't understand this 
solutions or they were not proper described (at least for me).


So the only thing I can show at the moment ist the output of

```
xrandr

Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 16384 x 16384
eDP-1 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis 
y axis) 382mm x 215mm

   1920x1080 60.06*+  60.0159.9759.9640.1759.93
   1680x1050 59.9559.88
   1400x1050 59.98
   1600x900  59.9959.9459.9559.82
   1280x1024 60.02
   1400x900  59.9659.88
   1280x960  60.00
   1440x810  60.0059.97
   1368x768  59.8859.85
   1280x800  59.9959.9759.8159.91
   1280x720  60.0059.9959.8659.74
   1024x768  60.0460.00
   960x720   60.00
   928x696   60.05
   896x672   60.01
   1024x576  59.9559.9659.9059.82
   960x600   59.9360.00
   960x540   59.9659.9959.6359.82
   800x600   60.0060.3256.25
   840x525   60.0159.88
   864x486   59.9259.57
   700x525   59.98
   800x450   59.9559.82
   640x512   60.02
   700x450   59.9659.88
   640x480   60.0059.94
   720x405   59.5158.99
   684x384   59.8859.85
   640x400   59.8859.98
   640x360   59.8659.8359.8459.32
   512x384   60.00
   512x288   60.0059.92
   480x270   59.6359.82
   400x300   60.3256.34
   432x243   59.9259.57
   320x240   60.05
   360x202   59.5159.13
   320x180   59.8459.32
DP-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
DP-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
DP-3 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
DP-4 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

```

As far I understand there is no HDMI detected here but 4 Displayports. 
But this DP's don't exits in reality on this device (as I know).



Would be nice if somebody can help me to find a solution.

Thank you in advance


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Re: bookworm upgrade report: boring

[CL]

Hello,

after two days usage I found a little issue.

I use Brave as browser and want to set here the dark mode.

But it seems that Brave doesn't remember the setting. After every switch 
off / switch on of the system the browser forget the dark setting.


Not a big issue but a little bit irritating.


Don't know if this is a problem of Bookworm or Brave.

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Am 11.06.23 um 21:05 schrieb CL:

Hello,

can confirm the statement of Dan.

Just did an upgrade Bullseye -> Bookworm at two computer.

1. Lenovo V340-17IWL

XFCE Desktop

used as daily driver


2. NUC Kit DC53427HYE

XFCE Desktop

but used as server for a Nextcloud instance

general connetion via ssh


Both upgrades run smoothly and without any problems.

Only topic was the restart of the Nextcloud. They don't wanted the 
standard PHP 8.2.

Solution was a downgrade to PHP8.0

Until now no problems

Re: bookworm upgrade report: boring

[CL]

Hello,

Docker might be different. I don't use it yet - Not enough knowledge and 
a little bit afraid ;-)


I use a direct installation. Therfore this issue.

But as I already said no problem after the "downgrade".


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Am 12.06.23 um 19:52 schrieb Celejar:

On Sun, 11 Jun 2023 21:05:32 +0200
CL  wrote:


...


Only topic was the restart of the Nextcloud. They don't wanted the
standard PHP 8.2.
Solution was a downgrade to PHP8.0


That's unusual - Debian Stable having too *recent* software :|

FWIW, I upgraded my Debian Stable Nextcloud (26.02 via Docker) server
to Bookworm without trouble. Nextcloud is using PHP 8.2.6, but the
Docker containers seem to be providing their own PHP, since I haven't
installed any native PHP packages. This is one reason it can be nice to
run software not in the repositories via Docker.

Re: bookworm upgrade report: boring

[CL]

Hello,

can confirm the statement of Dan.

Just did an upgrade Bullseye -> Bookworm at two computer.

1. Lenovo V340-17IWL

XFCE Desktop

used as daily driver


2. NUC Kit DC53427HYE

XFCE Desktop

but used as server for a Nextcloud instance

general connetion via ssh


Both upgrades run smoothly and without any problems.

Only topic was the restart of the Nextcloud. They don't wanted the 
standard PHP 8.2.

Solution was a downgrade to PHP8.0

Until now no problems


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Am 11.06.23 um 18:31 schrieb Dan Ritter:


The machine I am typing on has been upgraded from bullseye to
bookworm. TL;DR: boring, which is good.

Hardware:
AMD 5 3600 (6c12t)
32 GB RAM
one NVMe SSD, ext4
MSI MS-7C95 B550M PRO-VDH WIFI motherboard

Peripherals:
Blue Yeti microphone
X-Bows KNIGHT keyboard
Logitech C920 webcam
Logitech Unifying Receiver (trackball, mouse)
Apple USB-C 3.5mm headphone adapter
Apple MagicPad

Software choices:
XFCE desktop
X11
chrony (NTP)
bluetoothd

I read the release notes.

Changed sources.list entries.

Ran apt update.

I ran apt upgrade --without-new-pkgs before apt full-upgrade.
Then I rebooted.

Everything's working. In the end, I didn't make any config
changes (left everything as "keep current config").

-dsr-

Re: no web

[CL]

Hello,

I'm not an expert but I think you can use package `broadcom-sta-dkms`.

You will find it in the non-free repo.

Please refer to (Debian 
Packages)[https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/broadcom-sta-dkms] also.


If you don't want use non-free packages I see not a real chance to get 
it unfortunately. But as I already said I#m not a deep expert.



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Am 01.06.23 um 06:20 schrieb Aleix Piulachs:
i’m using bullseye 7 in a hp compaq 6830s i386 intel pentium dual t3400 
and i can’t find the network drivers broadcom BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY 
(rev 01)

Re: NEW problem PANIC AW: SOLUTION AW: EPSON ...

[CL]

Hello,

first I have to apologies for being a little bit rude within the next 
sentences.


BUT STOP this stupid conversation.

It is quite clear that this is one of following things

1. Stupid freaking AI
2. Psycho test
3. Troll

So

@Sophie or Michal Schwibinger or what ever your name is
please stop this

It is far away from being funny or helpful

It is boring, stupid and annoying

One reason of this community is to help each other. But what you make is 
questioning our all intelligence and also competences. And this freaks 
me out a little bit.


Again please stop this

Thank you in advance




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Am 18.05.23 um 09:48 schrieb Schwibinger Michael:

Good morning
Thank You.

Sorry for bad asking.

I wanted to say:
Shall I delete in my mailbox the unanswered EPSON emails?
I think YES.

The new problem.
Debian 11 LXDE is not booting.

,,panic,,

What did I do ?
I did the update to Debian 11.

How to repair?
What did I do wrong?

Regards Sophie


*Von:* Andrew M.A. Cater 
*Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 17. Mai 2023 19:47
*An:* debian-user@lists.debian.org 
*Betreff:* Re: SOLUTION AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read 
this, you are using the wrong driver

On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 06:27:55PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:

Good evening

This did work.

Thank You

Thank You

Thank You


Thank You

Thank You



Hi Sophie,

I'm really very pleased that it all worked for you eventually.

There were some false starts and some misunderstandings but the main
thing is that IT WORKS :)

We don't normally delete emails from the mailing lists - they are there
to explain how things happened and how solutions were found.

These emails also led to people explaining various facts about
how to use the mailing list - maybe these will help other people.

Herzlichen Gluckwuenshen

Andy




Regards Sope

I ll send 2nd email with topoic   Delete Printer Emails.




Von: Jeremy Ardley 
Gesendet: Montag, 8. Mai 2023 00:47
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver


On 8/5/23 08:12, Will Mengarini wrote:
> * Brian  [23-05/08=Mo 00:27 +0100]:
>>https://download3.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/03/00/14/48/15/1d37501ad39bd2b5753 

 \

>> cce3b2715b3e2fef557/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_1.7.26-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb
> That includes a literal space in the middle of that hash
> (because the space before the backslash is taken literally).
>
> However, when I removed that space by hand, I still got "not found":

The driver is already included in the standard debian distribution

sudo apt-get install printer-driver-escpr

Then the usual cups administration to attach driver to printer using lpadmin or  
http://localhost:631 


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Depurar procurando segfault

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Cl=E1udio?= Max]

Estou com um problema com o gaim e o gnucash que ambos caem por
segfault. Desconfio que seja alguma biblioteca que tenha sido 
instalada corrompida (pacote corrompido ou problema do unstable).
Isso é antigo, faz tempo que vem ocorrendo só que agora encheu.

Alguém conhece o gdb o suficiente para me dizer como fazer para
descobrir onde qual biblioteca ele está carregando antes de cair?

Eu rodei
gdb gaim
run

...
(no debugging symbols found)

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[Switching to Thread -1218975424 (LWP 2393)]
0xb7f91315 in _dl_relocate_object () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2
(gdb) quit


Ele fala da ld-linux.so.2, que vem com o libc6. Só que essa
biblioteca é responsável por carregar dinamicamente bibliotecas.
Parece que ela está funcionando, o problema é quem estão pedindo
pra ela carregar...

Obrigado

Cláudio

Re: 1/2 OT - Projeto de =?ISO-8859-1?Q?inclus=E3o?= digital em =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=E3o?= Paulo/Capital

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Cl=E1udio?= Max]

Em Thu, 05 May 2005 18:51:36 -0300 Rauklei P.S. Guimaraes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] disse que:

 Olá!
 Outro dia assisti uma reprease na Tv/Cultura de um projeto onde uma 
 entidade, não me recordo o nome pois peguei o programa no meio,
recebia 
 doações de equipamentos velhos e os reciclavam e instalavam GNU/Linux.
 Alguém sabe desse projeto ? Se sim como faço contato ? Gostaria de 
 participar como colaborador.

Talvez o CDI (Comitê para Democratização da Informática).
www.cdi.org.br

Abraço

Cláudio Max

Re: Controle Financeiro..

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Cl=E1udio?= Max]

Em Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:38:04 -0300 roberto bech [EMAIL PROTECTED]
disse que:

 Vários...
 
 Ambiente gnome, tem o gnucash - fala-se muito dele, mas eu
 particularmente não gosto: interface feia, opções demais...

Usei gnucash por anos. Uma coisa que me irrita profundamente é que, por
anos, ele mantém o mesmo erro sem consertar (e já documentado): não gera
um *%%$# de um gráfico certo para impressão. Sempre come uns 30% dele
no topo. Não dá. Parece que o problema é com o guppi(?).
Ultimamente ele não tem carregado na minha máquina (assim como o gaim)
por segfault. Acho que o problema é no meu gnome. Mas como eu não uso
(gnome), nem me importo. Achei um interessante, em java (logo longe das
picuinhas de gerenciadores de janelas) e que lê arquivos qix e gnucash.
Chama-se jgnash (jgnash.sourceforge.net, acho). Muito parecido com o
gnucash e MUITO mais rápido. E tem mais. Aparentemente o gnucash
trabalha com o conceito invertido para contas ativas. O correto
(contábil) é valores acrescidos entrarem como _débito_. O gnucash
trabalha como seria o intuitivo, que é o incorreto...
Na importação do jgnash todos os meus créditos e débitos vieram
invertidos... Fui ver o conceito contábil e o jgnash estava certo e
gnucash errado! Vai ver não soube avisar pro gnucash...

 Meu favorito é o kmymoney2 - embora eu use o Gnome. A versão
 disponível para download é velha e fraquinha, mas a que está em CVS é
 muito boa! Gera relatórios, é super-prática e poderosa. Caso queira,
 eu compilei do CVS ontem o meu, e gerei um .deb, que posso mandar para
 quem estiver interessado.

Gostaria de esperimentar. Por favor mande-me! cldmxm @ yahoo.com.br

 Tem outros programinhas por aí: um muito bom para Windows, mas que
 roda bem com o wine, é o e-suite financeiro. Programa brasileiro de
 altíssima qualidade. Não lembro o site deles, mas dá uma busca.

Vou dar uma olhada. É gratuito?

Abraço

Cláudio

Re: server 2003

[Linux Distro . cl]

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:34:05 -0500
Andrés González Montenegro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hola, deseo configurar una oficina de correos en Windows server 2003 para 
 accesarlo desde outlook 2000 y 2002 (xp) pero no se como o si se pueda o no, 
 ¿puedes ayudarme?
 
 
 

Claro que te podemos ayudar, lo primero que debes hacer es formatear el disco 
duro del servidor, eliminar completamente
el virus, a ups perdon, el windoze e instalar _Linux_ _Debian_

Suerte!


Carlos Francisco Tirado
Ing. Informatica Aplicada
U. de Valparaiso
counter.li.org #263135
http://www.distro.cl
Viña del Mar - Chile

Re: Cumplea~nos Debian en Chile

[Linux Distro . cl]

On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 23:45:47 -0400 (CLT)
Xavier Andrade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hola,
 
 Se acerca el decimo aniversario de Debian y como es que los usuarios de
 Debian en Chile no vamos a celebrarlo! Para los que no lo saben la fecha
 es el 16 de Agosto que es el sabado de la proxima semana.
 
 Habria que ver cuantos somos los interesados y donde podriamos
 juntarnos. Ideas?
 
 Saludos,
 
 Xavier
 
 
 
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Los Debianeros de Valpo - Viña  y alrededores nos podriamos juntar en el Pub La 
Torre de Valpo
 Que tal???

 Saludos :)


Carlos Francisco Tirado
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Re: Cumplea~nos Debian en Chile

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On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 19:58:28 -0400
Sergio Ahumada N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 El Jue 07 Ago 2003 19:44, Gonzalo Pineda escribió:
  Si la torre es un excelente lugar! jajaja...seria bueno...bueno pero
  cuantos hay por aca en la V region Saludos Chau!
 
 Aca V Region Chile ... La Torre es buena .. yo he ido .. pero hay q ir medio 
 temprano para no pagar (creo q mas avanzada la tarde es mas complicado 
 entrar, debido a q se llena)
 
 Tengo varios amigos debianistas q de seguro apoyaran la iniciativa (Debian + 
 Cerveza)
 
 Saludos !
  
 -- SAN
 
 
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Claro, La Torre se llena, creo que desde las 9pm hacia adelante comienzan a 
cobrar entrada
yo en lo personal he ido algunas veces con compañeros de carrera, y creo q 
seria buen lugar
para celebrar el cumpleaños de Debian, sin dejar tb abiertas las puertas para 
algun otro lugar
para la celebracion :p


Saludos!


Carlos Francisco Tirado
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Ing. Informatica Aplicada
U. de Valparaiso
counter.li.org #263135
http://www.distro.cl
Viña del Mar - Chile