xntpd not functioning anymore...
Greetings- I have been using xntpd to keep some machines on time. I recently switched to a different machine (PPro, Debian 2.1+updates, kernel 2.2.1) to handle masquerading and xntpd (etc...), but I just noticed that xntpd doesn't do anything any longer (okay, I changed the machine from ppc to ppro and from redhat to debian, so any longer is probably the wrong phrase). An exerpt from /var/log/xntpd: 12 Dec 06:49:25 xntpd[14702]: read drift of 46.257 from /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift 13 Dec 00:20:57 xntpd[14702]: xntpd exiting on signal 15 One server I have in ntp.conf is tock.cs.unlv.edu $ntptrace tock.cs.unlv.edu tock.CS.UNLV.EDU: stratum 2, offset 0.853196, synch distance 0.04726 usno.pa-x.dec.com: stratum 1, offset 0.842812, synch distance 0.02371, refid 'USNO' but (having stopped xntpd3) $ntpdate tock.cs.unlv.edu 13 Dec 00:55:08 ntpdate[16494]: no server suitable for synchronization found I am not sure where to look now. I believe that ipchains is configured to allow ntp to communicate, but I could be wrong. I am suspicious of my ipchains config. However, I have that machine serve machines inside my network, and I get $ntpdate internal address of this server machine 13 Dec 00:57:38 ntpdate[25953]: no server suitable for synchronization found (again, from a machine within the internal net, and after I restarted xntpd3 on the server machine) I am reading through the xntpd-doc stuff, but if anyone has any suggestions, I would appreciate the hint. Thanks Dan Hugo
Re: xntpd not functioning anymore...
Henrique M Holschuh wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Dan Hugo wrote: $ntptrace tock.cs.unlv.edu tock.CS.UNLV.EDU: stratum 2, offset 0.853196, synch distance 0.04726 usno.pa-x.dec.com: stratum 1, offset 0.842812, synch distance 0.02371, refid 'USNO' Those offset lines are worrisome. NTP does not deal well with large offsets and delay (round-trip time) by design (it would be pointless, you can't sync over such a link), and will promptly exit if it gets worse than 1s. You're at 0.8s already, and that's way too high. One thing you -must- do when you have such a bad sync is to run ntpdate in the same server-set you will run ntp against right before you start ntp. Debia potato gets this right, don't know about slink. I do run ntpdate in /etc/init.d/xntp3 That is interesting about the round-trip time. I will try to find some servers closer. But here is the interesting part: Machines inside my masqueraded network can see tock just fine (I determined this by pointing one machine inside at tock, rather than pointing it at my xntpd+masquerade machine), which really points at ipchains being bad... I am not sure where to look now. I believe that ipchains is configured to allow ntp to communicate, but I could be wrong. I am suspicious of my ipchains config. Don't kill tcp or udp packets from/to the ntp service port, nor delay them. When in doubt, try ntpq -p host to ping the servers. Interesting. I have tock as the first server listed in the masq machine's ntp.conf file. On the machine inside, I see from /var/log/xntpd 13 Dec 03:09:07 xntpd[26296]: synchronized to 131.216.18.4, stratum=3 But not such message in the log file on the outside machine. BUT, running ntpq -p 131.216.18.4 on the outside machine: remote refid st t when poll reach delay offsetdisp == .207.247.149.141 timekeeper.isi. 2 u 360 1024 366 208.04 22.500 282.15 +castor.nevada.e clepsydra.dec.c 2 u 77 128 377-0.35 -1.6982.49 -vegas.engineeri clock.isc.org2 u 770 1024 35665.86 90.993 24.80 -shell2.astreet. clepsydra.dec.c 2 u 43 128 37268.07 68.881 21.59 x155.178.210.11 tgf_s1.ntp.tc.f 2 u 20 64 376 939.77 412.093 32.00 xsulu.hfl.tc.faa 172.26.251.9 2 u 65 64 376 695.30 267.309 76.61 .astreet.com clepsydra.dec.c 2 u 11 64 27756.00 92.711 15.49 -fe01-r01-core.t 132.163.135.130 2 u 110 256 377 138.44 32.125 16.57 xgw.decide2act.c clepsydra.dec.c 2 u 136 64 374 187.67 -1924.9 885.97 -blackcomb.sfu.c tick.usno.navy. 2 u 194 512 377 121.61 -34.844 34.35 -whistler.sfu.ca tick.usno.navy. 2 u 25 512 177 123.72 -29.541 104.80 ctrl-C and ntptrace 131.216.18.4 tock.CS.UNLV.EDU: stratum 2, offset 0.978212, synch distance 0.11465 haven.umd.edu: stratum 1, offset 0.976242, synch distance 0.01128, refid 'WWVB' Also, just to be sure... you did notice debian potato packages ntp V4 (don't know about slink), and used the proper version 3 strings after the servers in /etc/ntp.conf for any debian potato machines, didn't you? I am using xntp3 from slink... though I even tried ntpdate -o[1,2,3] with no real difference on the outside machine.
Re: xntpd not functioning anymore...
Interesting. I added an input rule to allow outside udp to the masq machine on 123, and now I see ntpdate 131.216.18.4 13 Dec 11:33:50 ntpdate[19926]: adjust time server 131.216.18.4 offset 0.005303 sec I though I had tried enabling 123, but I may have only done it for inside traffic (actually, it was already enabled inside, but I added an explicit rule for that port). It wasn't clear to me that 123 had to be open to the outside world to get this to work, but apparently it does... If this is all it was, thanks! If not, at least I feel like I cam getting closer... thanks for the comments and suggestions! Dan Hugo William Burrow wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 08:45:04AM -0200, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: Don't kill tcp or udp packets from/to the ntp service port, nor delay them. When in doubt, try ntpq -p host to ping the servers. This will work even if the ntp ports are blocked by ipchains. Be sure port 123 is accessable through ipchains. -- William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada A 'box' is something that accomplishes a task -- you feed in input and out comes the output, just as God and Larry Wall intended. -- brian moore -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
LI during Lilo (normal solutions not working)
Greetings- I am getting the LI_ (flashing _) at boot of my newly installed slink on a dual PPro machine. I have a 14G IBM drive in there with /dev/hda1 partitioned to 200Megs, exactly the same as another identical drive in my normal machine (in other words, both have /dev/hda1 sizes the same, and the drives are the same model). I just built kernel 2.2.1 and put it in /boot I have been getting LI_ since I rebooted from the first install (from CD). I used these very CDs to install on my normal machine. My normal machine works great (dual PIII). I've read some comments on this, and the response comments are usually either that lilo was not run properly to setup the boot blocks on the drive (I've done this a few times, and it seems to be telling me what I expect it to) or that the kernel is outside of the first 1023 cylinders. I don't think it is either of these... what else could it be? Some stats: Tyan S1668 ATX Dual PPro with dual 180/512 PPros IBM 14G drive (7200 RPM, the letter designation escapes me at this moment) Drive setup as normal in BIOS DMA is disabled for now I would really appreciate some input here, as this one has me stumped (particularly due to the configuration of my normal machine, with partition size and drive model identical). Side Note: I forgot to check the bios, and the drive was initially setup as LBA. I had set /dev/hda1 to maximize in cfdisk. I was getting the 1EF: error at boot (I believe that is the string...). I changed bios to Normal, didn't maximize that partition, and made sure it was same as working config (re-partitioned), and reinstalled the base system from scratch again (a 10 minute ordeal, luckily). This is where I am left. Thanks for any help Dan Hugo
Re: LI during Lilo (normal solutions not working)
Answer: linear... [or lilo -l ] boots fine now. Found this tidbit in an old lilo users guide at http://www.yggdrasil.com/bible/lilo/user/user.html though I should have thought of this earlier... -dh Dan Hugo wrote: Greetings- I am getting the LI_ (flashing _) at boot of my newly installed slink on a dual PPro machine. I have a 14G IBM drive in there with /dev/hda1 partitioned to 200Megs, exactly the same as another identical drive in my normal machine (in other words, both have /dev/hda1 sizes the same, and the drives are the same model). I just built kernel 2.2.1 and put it in /boot I have been getting LI_ since I rebooted from the first install (from CD). I used these very CDs to install on my normal machine. My normal machine works great (dual PIII). I've read some comments on this, and the response comments are usually either that lilo was not run properly to setup the boot blocks on the drive (I've done this a few times, and it seems to be telling me what I expect it to) or that the kernel is outside of the first 1023 cylinders. I don't think it is either of these... what else could it be? Some stats: Tyan S1668 ATX Dual PPro with dual 180/512 PPros IBM 14G drive (7200 RPM, the letter designation escapes me at this moment) Drive setup as normal in BIOS DMA is disabled for now I would really appreciate some input here, as this one has me stumped (particularly due to the configuration of my normal machine, with partition size and drive model identical). Side Note: I forgot to check the bios, and the drive was initially setup as LBA. I had set /dev/hda1 to maximize in cfdisk. I was getting the 1EF: error at boot (I believe that is the string...). I changed bios to Normal, didn't maximize that partition, and made sure it was same as working config (re-partitioned), and reinstalled the base system from scratch again (a 10 minute ordeal, luckily). This is where I am left. Thanks for any help Dan Hugo -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: ssh1 error question
Dan Hugo wrote: Greetings-- I have been using ssh Version 1.2.26 from slink for a while to connect to my isp, and it has worked just fine for me. My isp us using ssh version 1.2.26a. Lately, however, I have noticed the following two things happening, and I don't remember them happening before (and I haven't changed, added, or upgraded anything that should cause this...): 1) I get this message: Cannot make temporary authentication socket directory /tmp/ssh-dhugo-25902 even though this directory is created on my local machine during the ssh connection process 2) That directory above does not get deleted on closing the ssh connection. I think this is new behavior, as I have not seen the collectio of /tmp/ssh-dhugo-PID directories growing like it does now everytime I make an ssh connection. Also, I have never known exactly what this is supposed to mean: Agent parent directory is not sticky, mode is 40777 it should be 041777 is this telling me that /usr/bin should have the sticky bit set? The man page doesn't say anything (that I saw) about setting the sticky bit of anything, so I don't want to guess if someone can point me in the right direction. Well, the sticky bit on /tmp was not set, which caused both problems. Reading through the sources I could see what the error message was telling me. For future reference, the parent directory of the agent SOCKET directory needs to be sticky, which is /tmp/ssh-USERNAME-PID/.. or just /tmp the way it is set up in Debian...
Serial port problems with kernel 2.0.36 SMP
Greetings-- I recently upraded my motherboard and installed Slink where I was using Hamm before, so a number of things changed at once. But: I am attempting to run pilot-link stuff, as well as connect my UPS again (best power fortress). Both of these things worked with my old motherboard (A Tyan PPro board) and kernel 2.0.34. With 2.0.36 and this Asus P2B-D M/B, I do see the serial ports getting init'ed at boot bash$ dmesg ... Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A ... and the associated /dev/ttyS* files are also enumerated. However, attempting to run, for example pilot-xfer /dev/ttyS0 -L results in nothing happening, and attempting to connect to the UPS results in a seg fault, followed by extremely chopping performance and an error message printed into the ring buffer about kmalloc operations and how an idle process that is running can't sleep (this is slightly painful, but I can do this again and be more precise if this is interesting, which I imagine it is...). Anyway, I recall that setserial had problems with multiprocessor machines, but I don't know if this is still true. I also wonder if this is unusual: bash$ cat /proc/ioports -001f : dma1 0020-003f : pic1 0040-005f : timer 0060-006f : keyboard 0070-007f : rtc 0080-008f : dma page reg 00a0-00bf : pic2 00c0-00df : dma2 00f0-00ff : npu 0170-0177 : ide1 01f0-01f7 : ide0 0220-022f : sound blaster 0376-0376 : ide1 03c0-03df : vga+ 03f0-03f5 : floppy 03f6-03f6 : ide0 03f7-03f7 : floppy DIR d000-d01f : 3c905 Boomerang 100baseTx d800-d807 : IDE DMA d808-d80f : IDE DMA No Serial ports! I ran setserial manually to configure /dev/ttyS0 and it appeared at 03F8 with a line like serial (set) above... h. Is this a configuration error on my part? I do have serial port support in the kernel (not a module), I read the serial HOWTO, but I am afraid I am stuck. Any info? Thanks Dan Hugo ps this is the segfault info when I abort the connection attempt in pilot-xfer /dev/ttyS0: Code: 1Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address c4025d98 current-tss.cr3 = 0333d000, %cr3 = 0333d000 *pde = 3067 *pte = Oops: CPU:1 EIP:0010:[0010b78c] EFLAGS: 00010202 eax: 0010 ebx: 002b ecx: 04025d98 edx: 034dba04 esi: edi: 007ee000 ebp: 007edf68 esp: 007edf04 ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 0010 gs: 002b ss: 0018 Process pilot-xfer (pid: 269, process nr: 14, stackpage=007ed000) Stack: 001b002b 007edf68 00025000 047f 0480 0400 0018 0011682b 001bcdd0 007edf68 001164dc fff0 0010 001ffd10 008f292c 0246 00a17498 0048bc0c 001164dc 0010b309 007edf68 Call Trace: [001b002b] [047f] [0480] [0400] [0011682b] [001164dc] [001164dc] [0010b309] [04025d98] [04025d98] [0011ee67] [0010aeab] Code: 64 8a 04 0e 0f a1 88 c2 81 e2 ff 00 00 00 89 54 24 10 52 68 Aiee, killing interrupt handler
Unstable gzip/gunzip
I am seeing some very unstable behavior which I am trying to track down, and I would really really appreciate some input... Here is what I am seeing on this machine: Slink install, SMP kernel 2.0.36 Asus P2B-D MB, 2 PIII/450, 256M ram (2 PC100 128M DIMMs) IBM 14GXP 14.6G drive, UDMA disabled (part of test...) Stable for some time, then suddenly you name it, it crashed. I have also attempted to run the slink installed kernel (single processor,etc), and see similar results. One test I perform to see a failure is to move a file from my /home to /tmp gunzip file.gz; gzip file; gzip -t file.gz I run this loop anywhere from 5 to 20 times, no problems, but eventually, I will get a bad crc. This tells me that I am headed for trouble. On some reboots, I get a mess of errors, others no problem. Netscape 4.61 runs great, or crashes before a window is even drawn. Lots of segfaulting, or stable operation for a while. I have JUST upgraded to slink, and at the same time upgraded to this new MB with lots of memory, and a new hard drive. SO, I am attempting to isolate the problem. I was suspicious that this drive (7200 RPM, UDMA) was either overheating crammed between a floppy and a sparq drive (so I moved it in my case) or failing due to some UDMA problems (so I disabled UDMA in bios). I disabled MPS 1.4 support in the bios. I installed kernel 2.2.1 from the stable slink (r2?) from a debian site (original install from lsl cds, BTW). I still see weird behavior. I have noticed, though, that my aging power supply sometimes needs some coaxing to power up from shutdown (perhaps fluxuating power supply problems?), or it could be a marginal memory cell/row/column/chip. I have had the memory almost filled up with tons of stuff running, with no problems, but who knows. Does anyone have any experience with this sort of flakiness? I grabbed memtest from a link on freshmeat.net and built it, and am about to explore that, I have a fan blowing right on the board in case it was overheating in some way, and I am running out of other ideas... Any input greatly appreciated! Thanks Dan Hugo
Found Problem (Re: Unstable gzip/gunzip)
Hmm, some bit errors in my memory dimms, found with memtest86. Cool util, I believe I will keep it... -dh Dan Hugo wrote: I am seeing some very unstable behavior which I am trying to track down, and I would really really appreciate some input... Here is what I am seeing on this machine: Slink install, SMP kernel 2.0.36 Asus P2B-D MB, 2 PIII/450, 256M ram (2 PC100 128M DIMMs) IBM 14GXP 14.6G drive, UDMA disabled (part of test...) Stable for some time, then suddenly you name it, it crashed. I have also attempted to run the slink installed kernel (single processor,etc), and see similar results. One test I perform to see a failure is to move a file from my /home to /tmp gunzip file.gz; gzip file; gzip -t file.gz I run this loop anywhere from 5 to 20 times, no problems, but eventually, I will get a bad crc. This tells me that I am headed for trouble. On some reboots, I get a mess of errors, others no problem. Netscape 4.61 runs great, or crashes before a window is even drawn. Lots of segfaulting, or stable operation for a while. I have JUST upgraded to slink, and at the same time upgraded to this new MB with lots of memory, and a new hard drive. SO, I am attempting to isolate the problem. I was suspicious that this drive (7200 RPM, UDMA) was either overheating crammed between a floppy and a sparq drive (so I moved it in my case) or failing due to some UDMA problems (so I disabled UDMA in bios). I disabled MPS 1.4 support in the bios. I installed kernel 2.2.1 from the stable slink (r2?) from a debian site (original install from lsl cds, BTW). I still see weird behavior. I have noticed, though, that my aging power supply sometimes needs some coaxing to power up from shutdown (perhaps fluxuating power supply problems?), or it could be a marginal memory cell/row/column/chip. I have had the memory almost filled up with tons of stuff running, with no problems, but who knows. Does anyone have any experience with this sort of flakiness? I grabbed memtest from a link on freshmeat.net and built it, and am about to explore that, I have a fan blowing right on the board in case it was overheating in some way, and I am running out of other ideas... Any input greatly appreciated! Thanks Dan Hugo -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
HP LaserJet 2100TN question
I have this printer hooked up to my ethernet network, and everything works great (I was actually amazed at how easy it was to configure everything... from box to printing in about 20 minutes... great printer!) My question, though, is how to make use of the features of the 2100. That is, I have a third paper tray... how to I tell it which to use? How can I change the resolutions (max is 1200dpi), or whatever other features are available to change? I have searched all over, and I can't seem to find anything on HPs site, HOWTOs, newsgroups, etc, regarding this. I did see a mention of WebJet from HP (I have a built-in JetDirect ethernet device for the printer), but that sounded more like printer administration (accounting, passwords, trouble reports, etc). I am looking for some command line option or filter setting or whatever that allows me to change these things (by the way, it supports postscript, so I have been printing to the raw device with no troubles... should I have a filter in there?) Thanks for any thoughts. Dan Hugo
Large disk question-partition larger than disk
I have read the Large Disk Mini-HOWTO. I have an IBM 14GXP 14.6G EIDE drive, and when I partitioned it with cfdisk 0.81 (from slink) I had no problems creating a 10G /usr (hda1=root, hda2=swap, hda5=usr) partition. Now, though, if ever I run fdisk/cfdisk/sfdisk, they complain that partition 3 is larger than the disk itself. In reading that Mini-HOWTO, I gathered that cfdisk is supposed to be aware of the way EIDE disks larger than 8G reported sizes, but it appears that my cfdisk is using the reported size and exiting with a fatal error when hda5 is larger than the reported disk size of 1024 cylinders (the disk is about 1750, allegedly...). Do I need a later version of cfdisk? sfdisk just gives me a warning, and fdisk will perform operations on other parts of the disk (eg hda8=tmp got totally trashed on a system hang, mke2fs crashed trying to reformat that partition, so I deleted it and started that partition from scratch, with good results). I am running slink kernel 2.0.36 with SMP enabled. Thanks for any input Dan Hugo
Re: HP LaserJet 2100TN question
Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Sun, 25 Jul 1999, Dan Hugo wrote: My question, though, is how to make use of the features of the 2100. That is, I have a third paper tray... how to I tell it which to use? How can I change the resolutions (max is 1200dpi), or whatever other features are available to change? In postscript mode the magical features will be accessed through special device specific postscript commands. I think there is a general standard for paper trays and the like - but it will ultimately be up to the generating application... You can poke around HP's site for either information on HP Job Control or on any HP Postscript extensions. If you are priting postscript then there is an excellent chance you are already using the maximum resolution : Interesting. I poked around a bit more on the HP site, but I think the easiest way to check this would be to print a document to various paper trays, etc, from Windows to a file and see if the .ps has anything interesting in it. As for the document resolution, I was assuming it was full, but I could tell if I could switch it and see the difference. I would imagine there are other things that are changable too, but I wasn't sure if they were embedded into the postscript or not. Thanks for the info Dan Hugo
Re: what to do when libc6 upgrade goes bad
Sarel Botha wrote: Having updated libc6, I didn't know whether a reboot was in order, since that is a fairly important library for just about everything. Well, this was a bad idea, since my machine hung rebooting, and then nothing would run once the kernel finished starting. Couldn't log in, rescue disk doesn't have dpkg, and I was sorta stuck, and sort of frantic (moreso, in fact). It wasn't necessary to reboot... Couldn't imoprtant binaries that could stop a machine from rebooting be statically linked to avoid problems like this ? Well, I am not sure about that. Once I installed the new libc6, it didn't seem that dpkg was installing things properly anymore (again, I was installing guile 1.3, so the other stuff installed was libncurses, slib, libguile, and of course, guile itself). I didn't have any experience with this, so I brushed it off as dependency problems of some sort. As for static linking, it would have been nice if the rescue disk could have had dpkg on it so that I could mount my CD and re-install the older libs, but it actually wasn't that bad afterall... definitely a learning experience. -dh
One more possibly-dumb question...
Greetings- In a previous message, I described my recent libc6 drama and how I backed out of it. I notice now that when I boot up my machine, that root is logged in (as in, sitting in /root logged in and everything) right before xdm runs. I have never noticed this before... this does not seem right to me, either. Can someone tell me why this would be? thanks Dan Hugo ps if more specific detail is needed, I would be happy to provide it...
Re: One more possibly-dumb question...
Just found it: In /etc/inittab # This line is special for the Debian installation system. # This file will be replaced when installation completes. 1:2345:respawn:/bin/login root /dev/tty1 /dev/tty1 21 # 1:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 Since I fudged the install process, this didn't get changed! -dh Dan Hugo wrote: Greetings- In a previous message, I described my recent libc6 drama and how I backed out of it. I notice now that when I boot up my machine, that root is logged in (as in, sitting in /root logged in and everything) right before xdm runs. I have never noticed this before... this does not seem right to me, either. Can someone tell me why this would be? thanks Dan Hugo ps if more specific detail is needed, I would be happy to provide it... -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
More info (was Re: what to do when libc6 upgrade goes bad)
Here is the error that was occurring when I attempted to reboot, as I describe below: /bin/sh: error in loading shared libraries : undefined symbol: rl_ignore_some_completions_function Dan wrote: Greetings-- I just made an attempt at upgrading my installed libc6 using libc6_2.0.7.19981211-6.deb. I have a 2.0 complete install, but I was going to try GnuCash, which requires guile 1.3, which requires a few things that are newer than Deb2.0. Anyway, it didn't go so well, apparently, since some of the other libs that guile depends on didn't install due to errors, along the lines of unable to link or somesuch (I am embarrassed to say I did not write the message down, as I was rather frantic in short order). Having updated libc6, I didn't know whether a reboot was in order, since that is a fairly important library for just about everything. Well, this was a bad idea, since my machine hung rebooting, and then nothing would run once the kernel finished starting. Couldn't log in, rescue disk doesn't have dpkg, and I was sorta stuck, and sort of frantic (moreso, in fact). So I just reinstalled and reconfigured the base package using the debian installer, which turned out to be sort of okay... it had the desired effect of replacing libc6 with an older version, and it left almost everything else intact. (Actually, smail won't run anymore... it just bails on startup, despite the fact that the config files seem to be there... any thoughts?) The question, then, is what to do NEXT TIME I do something dumb like this... how can I avoid getting stuck in this situation, given that I have a 2.0 CD... Any suggestions appreciated, regarding the best way to backtrack when libc6 upgrades go bad, or how to get smail to run again. Thanks Dan Hugo -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Xcopilot on Debian 2.0
Has anyone gotten XCopilot 0.6.6 to run on a Debian 2.0 system using a PalmIII Rom? I keep getting the following when I run it: $ ./xcopilot -datadir ~/.xcopilot -romfile pilot2.rom -ramsize 2048 -memversion 2 Bus error: read a long from undefined memory address 0x10d8 This is the binary that I built on my machine. I also tried the debian package and the normal intel binary from http://xcopilot.cuspy.com/ using ROMs that I downloaded with both pi-getrom and getrom2 from pilot-link.0.9.0 (also built on my machine). I've been reading through the code, and I can't see exactly how this is happening (yet), but it is definitely in mc68k/memory.c. The scratchfile is created, the ramfile is the correct size... my guess is that the ROM file is corrupt, but I did use two separate apps to suck the rom out of my pilot. I have tried a variety of command line options, and I have read some usenet postings from people who claim to have it working. H. I've only spent about an hour on this so far, but any pointers would be appreciated. Thanks Dan Hugo
Re: Xcopilot on Debian 2.0
Note: my build does appear to work with the DEBUG Rom image from the Palm web site, both v2.0.2 and v3.0 I did have the 3.0.x (2 I think) update in my new ROM... perhaps this is the problem? Still, if anyone has any input, I would like to know, but at least I can use it. -dh Dan Hugo wrote: Has anyone gotten XCopilot 0.6.6 to run on a Debian 2.0 system using a PalmIII Rom? I keep getting the following when I run it: $ ./xcopilot -datadir ~/.xcopilot -romfile pilot2.rom -ramsize 2048 -memversion 2 Bus error: read a long from undefined memory address 0x10d8 This is the binary that I built on my machine. I also tried the debian package and the normal intel binary from http://xcopilot.cuspy.com/ using ROMs that I downloaded with both pi-getrom and getrom2 from pilot-link.0.9.0 (also built on my machine). I've been reading through the code, and I can't see exactly how this is happening (yet), but it is definitely in mc68k/memory.c. The scratchfile is created, the ramfile is the correct size... my guess is that the ROM file is corrupt, but I did use two separate apps to suck the rom out of my pilot. I have tried a variety of command line options, and I have read some usenet postings from people who claim to have it working. H. I've only spent about an hour on this so far, but any pointers would be appreciated. Thanks Dan Hugo -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Wrong HD size in BIOS, Recovery?
I had a bad 3.2G hard drive that was flaking on me, and it did so for what I called the last time Monday at about 3am... what better time to upgrade to a much more recent Debian version AND a new hard drive at the same time? I had a 4.0G drive waiting to take its place, so why not? So everything installed fresh, everything is fine, and now I am looking at my partition total sizes a week later, and realizing that they add up to 3.2G! Apparently, I had forgotten to change the BIOS setting back to AUTO for the IDE drive probing, which I had set up when I first found that 3.2G drive to be flaky. Ugh! The question is, what is the best way to remedy this situation? I have a general idea, but I would really appreciate it if someone had any suggestions, like don't do this... or it will go very smoothly if you... All of the critical stuff is off that flaky drive and on the new one, and that flaky one is acting okay, but I don't really want to use it as a temp drive... hmmm. thanks a lot Dan Hugo .8G short...
Re: Any one using voice modems (mailbox) on Debian with US Robotics Modem
A vgetty documentation site: http://www.yeolde.com/~surfgriz/vgetty/ I used to have a link to the mgetty+sendfax page which included the sources and various bits of info for vgetty as well, but that link seems to have moved... I too have a USR Sportster voice on a shelf somewhere, and I was going to set up vgetty, but... good luck (and let me know how it turns out!) -dh Mike Schmitz wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 1998 at 12:45:27PM +0200, Daniel Mashao wrote: I am looking for tips of how to get US Robotics Sportster Voice modem to work as a voicemail system. I have to software to get it work in Windows but I do not want to go that route. vgetty -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
[Off Topic] Creative Hardware Question
It's late, and I have a meeting in something like 7 hours to talk about this subject, so I thought I might post a question here to see what my fellow Debian users think. Given the WebPad from Cyrix (http://www.cyrix.com/html/emerging/index.htm), the Netwinder from Corel (http://www.corelcomputer.com/ and http://www.netwinder.org/ ) and some other interesting hardware and pro-Linux stuff out there: What would make a near-perfect mobil/palm-top/mini/whatever Linux device? For example 12.1 Reflective AMLCD Resistive touch screen (the reflective would make this hard, but...) StrongARM processor 32 Meg memory wireless ethernet PCMCIA support ? Audio IR Port? USB (eventually...) * * * (note lack of keyboard, mouse, hard drive, CD-ROM drive, etc etc... in this EXAMPLE) Would it be a standalone device? An X terminal? Some other form of graphic terminal? Would battery life win out over performance? Weight over size? Is a backlight important (as opposed to reflective) ? Does it need a drive of some sort? Would a CD-ROM/CD-R/CD-RW suffice (assuming some network connectivity) ? So, basically, I am wondering what a Debian Linux user would want in such a device, if such a device would be desirable at all. (I really do have a meeting about something along these lines in 7 hours, but I am posing the question for some projects we have coming up soon...) Thanks for any thoughts, ideas, suggestions, and non-flames... Dan Hugo ps I work for none of the companies I mentioned above, and this meeting is with no one from any of those companies.
LinkSys EtherFast 10/100 and Hamm
I am putting together a PPro machine to do some IPMasquerading on a DSL line, using Hamm from some CDs that I have. I have two LinkSys EtherFast 10/100 cards with LC82C169 chips on them. I installed one to start off with, selected the Tulip module, and continued along with the install. For some reason, once the machine rebooted and the tulip module was up, the card seems to be broadcasting (?) or something, and continues to do so every few seconds. I have a little 5 port 10Base hub (also from LinkSys) that I've been using for a while, and the port that it is plugged in to lights up furiously for a few seconds and the collision light comes on, then it stops doing that and waits, and repeats. I tried setting a module option to force a 10BaseT connection (I was reading the tulip page at http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/tulip.html and set options=0 and options=4, with no effect on 0 and continuous failures, without a pause between them, with options=4) with no positive effect. Has anyone used this type of card successfully? Suggestions? I chose this card since it was cheap... $30 each, and eventually that 10Bast hub will become a 100BaseT hub... Thanks for any input Dan Hugo
CD-RW experiences?
I am thinking about getting a CD-RW drive to archive things, and maybe even to maintain an up-to-date Debian CD set. Does anyone have any experience with these drives? Since I happen to work at Philips, I would most likely be getting one of those models (the 3610, I believe, but I don't work in the optical storage group, so I don't know much about them) if they work. BUT, if someone has found a particular CD-RW drive to work well with their Debian system, I would like to know what would be the best way to go. Or, I could get a CD-R drive, about which there is much more info (I read through the CD-ROM/CD-writing HOWTOs, and a list of compatible drives, but it was mostly CD-R biased). Any info much appreciated. Thanks Dan Hugo
Re: anybody have/use ADSL?
I've been using PacBell service in Silicon Valley, CA (USA) since February, and I have to say that I have had a generally good experience. The prices during the trial period have been high $80/month for service from PacBell $75/month for PacBell Internet ISP $125 for wiring install at PacBell (not In House) Several hundred for the Alcatel modem. I have a roommate and we live in a house, so wiring was easy and the cost is split between us, making it fairly attractive. For these rates, we get 384Kbps/384Kbps (download/upload) speeds, continuous connection, flat rate, one IP address. The Alcatel has a 10BaseT connector and an ATMF-25 connector. I had an extra powermac around, so I installed LinuxPPC and a second ethernet card (in addition to the internal ethernet on the motherboard), and with a little tinkering, managed to get an ipmasq machine up an running. So, our ADSL connection serves three machines at the moment, with no problems. We get the advertised bandwidth consistently, which is pretty cool. For a small increase in monthly cost, and something like $20 in fees, we can upgrade to 1.5Mbps/384Kbps (down/up), but for such a small load, the extra cost didn't seem worth it. Now, however, PacBell is officially introducing the service (we were one of 165 installations in the Bay Area that they serve), the prices are set to drop substantially, though they will still be slightly high. Hopefully, some faster-speed options will come along as well, to compliment the lower prices. One Drawback: This has been a trial period, but one we paid big bucks for, so I am trying to decide how to handle this. I have been logging line-error times for about two months now to show that the connection actually goes down for at least a minute at a time sometimes. Very sporadic. I think the bottom line was hardware (a rev is coming in June) and too much high-speed traffic on the local wiring (we are in Silicon Valley, afterall...). The line drops are typically short and only slightly annoying. The hardware and signalling passed tests, and the drops occur quite sporadically, which leaves out any system problems. Aside from this, the service has been great. Again, this was with Alcatel hardware on the resident side, not sure about the switch side. Oh, installed my own splitter, which was trivial. Your mileage may vary... if there are no cable modems in your area, this is a nice, albeit expensive, alternative. -dh Ian Keith Setford wrote: Yo- Service come online here in 3 days and I was just wondering if anyone has experience with it yet. I believe the head-end units will be Fujitsu multiplexors and the client side will have Orckit modems? Anybody have any info? Thanks, -Ian _ Ian K. Setford [EMAIL PROTECTED] H: 940.566.0461 Pgr: 817.901.0255 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Slightly misguided article
If you have some time, please check out http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/opinion/0525/25wide.html With the headline The case against Linux? I think this author needs to hear from real users, and it is clear that the large Debian community has plenty to say... -dh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sdram and linux
tony mollica wrote: Hi. Just looking for a little more info. Just installed 64megs 168 pin sdram (replacing the 64megs of the usual type 72 pin edo stuff) in my system and it appears to be causing file system corruption, as indicated on boot up by fsck (attempted boot up, actually). Booting from the rescue disk and running fsck reports lots of problems, fixes them all, but the problems reappear at the next reboot from the hard disk drive. Also ran into a problem with programs exiting unexpectedly and core dumping for no apparent reason. What kind of motherboard? Were the EDO dimms 5 Volt? Some motherboards will allow mixing or switching, but sometimes it is not so easy. Most SDRAM is 3.3 Volt, unbuffered. Some might not be. Make sure... Also, most SDRAM (especially PC100 stuff coming soon) has Serial Presence Detect(SPD) on it, so that when the POST code in BIOS is initializing hardware, it can properly configure memory timings and such based on the fact that SDRAM is different than EDO. It is possible to detect the difference between the two using old memory sizing techniques, but SPD is more accurate... if it is accurate! If your BIOS is not recognizing the SDRAM as SDRAM for some reason, you will not see stable behavior at all. Has there been any similar reports or other problems using 168 pin sdram type memory or are there any hardware or kernel settings that I may have overlooked to make this work? The memory works ok on 'other' o.s.'s and machines. Does the memory work okay in your machine with, say, DOS? I know, it sucks, but it is less demanding, so to speak. We have found in our testing at work that 16-bit and 32-bit other OS's from Redmond work okay most of the time with a particular memory config, but if you try to run the multitasking version (the one with the NT in it), you see a lot of blue screen. We Crash... Anyway, I would say that you should check motherboard/chipset requirements (3.3 or 5 volts-- important distinction, probably unbuffered), check that the BIOS knows how to configure SDRAM, and make sure the stuff works in some minimum config (like DOS). Simply booting and passing the BIOS memory test is not always enough. Finally, if you plan on upgrading to a 100MHz motherboard some time in the near future, get GOOD SDRAM. PC100 is fairly challenging. I have been spending a lot of time lately dealing with SDRAM on intel motherboards, so I got a little wordy. Hope it helps somebody... -dh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Repost question regarding Netscape Communicator 4.04and News
I was not quite subscribed to this list when I originally posted this: === I have fallen WAY behind on the latest with Netscape Communicator, so forgive me if this has been answered... I checked on the debian faq-o-matic and support pages first. I am running Communicator 4.04 just recently upgraded from 4.03, and Debian version 1.3+ from a few months ago Whenever I attempt to read news, I get a bus error. Otherwise, everything works great. This was occurring with 4.03 as well. Are there any workarounds for this problem? Has anyone else experienced this one? I did not experience this with 3.x versions of Navigator. I have tried with and without the gnumalloc.so lib, along with various other settings. It seems that I cannot add a new News server, so that trying to read discussions crashes. I installed it without using the debian install scripts, since I had installed it long ago without them into /usr/local ... Thanks Dan Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Communicator and News reading
I have fallen WAY behind on the latest with Netscape Communicator, so forgive me if this has been answered... I checked on the debian faq-o-matic and support pages first. I am running Communicator 4.04, Debian version 1.3+ Whenever I attempt to read news, I get a bus error. Are there any workarounds for this problem? I installed it without using the debian install scripts, since I had installed it long ago without them into /usr/local ... Thanks Dan Hugo -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Interrupts and serial ports
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
0setserial confused me to. But after all I've figuered out, that linux (on
my machine) does NOT support 2 serials on the same interupt. What happens
is, that they both are not useable. I have set the jumpers on my ... hmmm
... let me look ... AdLib ISA POWER 221 card (which has 2 serial, 2
parallel and 1 game port) to have the two extra serials as /dev/ttyS2 and
/dev/ttyS3 (COM3: and COM4:) with interupts 11 and 12. And I have edited
the 0setserial file as shown below:
- /etc/rc.boot/0setserial --- [snip] -
...
#
# The typical user will only have 2 serial ports. To try and minimise
# problems, all other configurations have been commented out!
#
${SETSERIAL} -b /dev/ttyS2 ${AUTO_IRQ} skip_test autoconfig ${STD_FLAGS}
${SETSERIAL} -b /dev/ttyS3 ${AUTO_IRQ} skip_test autoconfig ${STD_FLAGS}
...
- /etc/rc.boot/0setserial --- [snap] -
As you can see, I have taken the '#' out. That's all.
I have a Bo-unstable drop from about almost a year ago, and that comment
is not in there... thought I did get everything working just right for
my current setup, which is
ttyS0 - Modem
ttyS1 - PalmPilot (or whatever it's called now).
I just got a BestPower Fortress (needed it), and I would like to hook up
a serial laser printer and, if it works, leave it hooked up.
I'm not necessarily short on interrupts yet, but I figured it would be
interesting of the slower items could just share an interrupt.
Oh well...
-dh
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Interrupts and serial ports
I have a SIIG serial port ISA card so I can add on two more serial ports. I was looking through /etc/rc.boot/0setserial to see how everything is configured, and I noticed that in the manual configuration section, it attempts to setup the COM1/3 and COM2/4 ports to irq's 4 and 3, respectively. I've read the howto's and the docs that came with the card, and everything is quite clear... One serial port, one interrups. My question-- does Linux support shared serial port interrupts in any way? The 0setserial file confused me a bit on this. Thanks for any input. -dh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: browser with strong encryption?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Does anyone know of a browser with 128-bit encryption. I need access to a site that requires 128-bit encryption (it detects 40 or 56-bit encryption and disables features on the site) and I'd hate to have to use win95. Does netscape plan to make Navigator or Communicator available with 128-bit encryption for linux? Are there any other options? I spoke to a friend at Netscape a few weeks ago about just that very question, and he replied with something about a general lack of attention to UN*X versions lately (he likes Linux...). Linux receives much less attention than IRIX or Solaris/SunOS, of course. I thought I heard that caldera was supporting a linux version of some of Netscape's products, including tech support. Perhaps they are selling the US version (which uses stronger encryption). As for 128 bit, I assume you mean something like IDEA? Or maybe something like Triple DES, or RC5 with a 128 bit key? I am not sure what Navigator/Communicator use anymore... it's been a while. Hope that helped a little, at least. -dh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Why use pgp?
Will Lowe wrote: On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Tim Thomson wrote: I know why you would want to use it to send encrypted messages, but why do you want to sign your messages? Well, we use it to sign other things. Like, for example, when I upload a new debian package, I sign it so that the people who run ftp.debian.org (and eventually you) know that that package really came from me -- I put my name on it, so I'd like to make sure noone's releasing stuff under my name without my authorization. By the same token, you'd like to make sure that I'm the person who did it, so that if there's a bug, or if it releases some horrible plague on your computer, you can get ahold of me. :) Something that might be less obvious is the fact that signing a message not only authenticates the author (assuming your signature, or public key, is available for someone to use for this purpose) of a message or piece of code, but it also allows one to authenicate the content of the message or code. Public key encryption like PGP would allow the same thing to a limited number of users for an encrypted message, but if, using the same example, I want to post to a newsgroup and I want to make sure that what I post is not altered in some way, I could sign it, and then anyone who was interested could verify that the content that appears on the group is what I actually posted (once they get my public key). Same goes for that code example... anyone who hacks the code between the source and desitination would not be able to create an authentic signature for the new content, so that the recipient could (should) authenticate the message for content and author (or signer, actually), then decide if the content is what it was when it was posted or sent, and that the author or signor is trustworthy. It's all very cool... Check out Applied Cryptography, by Bruce Schneier, John Wiley Sons, Inc 1996, as it is pretty much THE text on this sort of thing. There are many web sites as well. Some people just have pine set up to auto-sign everything. If I recall correctly, there are cases where one shouldn't sign something. If I can remember any, I'll post 'em... Hopefully, nothing changed in this message. -dh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Question: I2O, and how Linux is dealing
I was just reading over the NDA agreement (for fun) that the I2O organization (http://www.i2osig.org/) makes people sign before they THINK about the technology in I2O, and I recall reading somewhere that the Linux community was NOT in favor of the whole concept (for obvious reasons, given the limitations of that NDA). I am just wondering if there is going to be a general boycott I2O hardware (or at least ignoring the IOP and the driver model), or whether a reverse-engineering effort is planned or in the works. Since I don't know much about I2O (I didn't feel like spending the $250 for a temporary membership in their club... go figure), I wonder, if anyone does know, is it all that great a technology ? It really looks like I2O is a concerted effort to keep free software and OS's like Linux off the first tier by making driver development even harder. Just wondering out loud -dh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Configuring xinetd- cannot telnet to self
I should be able to do this: telnet 127.0.0.1 from my machine (telneting to myself) but I get this: Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused Same when trying to ftp, etc. I looked for a HOWTO on xinetd, but didn't see anything. So where should I look to solve this? /etc/hosts.allow ALL: LOCAL ALL:this machine name /etc/hosts.deny ALL:PARANOID #(I tried commenting that out) I use pppd, and I get the same behavior when I try to connect back to my machine when I telnet from my ISP shell account. I'm a little confused... what am I missing??? Thanks -dh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Why would modprobe be looking for binfmt-0 ?
This is a strange one: I have java executable and aout executable support compiled as modules. These both have names that begin with binfmt, but I can see no reference to anything called binfmt-0 in /etc/modules or /lib/modules/2.0.27/modules.dep Nor is there any so-named module anywhere that I can find. /var/log/daemon.log shows that modprobe can't find it while looking about once per minute, and it apparently gave up about 90 minutes ago, for now. Any ideas on where else I can look? Thanks -dh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Configuring xinetd- cannot telnet to self
Well, it must be late, because I thought this info was there, but I had
looked in /etc/inetd.conf instead of /etc/xinetd.conf
Clearly, I missed something during my install a while back...
Thanks!
-dh
Daniel Martin wrote:
On Sun, 9 Nov 1997, Dan Hugo wrote:
So where should I look to solve this?
Check you /etc/xinetd.conf and make
certain you have the following in it:
service telnet
{
socket_type = stream
protocol= tcp
wait= no
user= root
server = /usr/sbin/in.telnetd
}
This isn't in the default xinetd.conf, but it was in the xinetd.conf
generated by the install script when I asked it to convert my inetd.conf -
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Re: lock a pentium for fun!
I hat to be naive, but I've read a little bit about this bug (first on www.news.com, and very little more on www.x86.org) and there is one thing that is vague: Are Pentium Pro and/or Pentium II also effected by this bug? I would try it on my pro system, but I would rather not have to reset in the name of discovery if someone already knows the answer... Ben Pfaff wrote: George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If the instruction set is changed, the CPU part number should change. In other words, future extentions should be IMPOSSIBLE. Unused opcodes should execute a NOP or an instruction that causes the currently executing program to terminate in a known condition ... HALT? In this way, Pentium-N code running on a Pentium-(N) processor does not cause harm. When an instruction set is expanded, the processor part number should change. Oh, yeah, duh. I thought you meant that there should not be any instructions that are not useful; i.e., every possible byte value should have a defined purpose. Now that you've explained, it makes more sense. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: lock a pentium for fun!
I just tracked down a post to this mailing list from Tommy Lakofski that wasn't on this thread, stating (from the linux.advocacy newsgroup) that the problem is P5 only and does not effect PPro or PII. I guess that's reassuring... -dh Dan Hugo wrote: I hat to be naive, but I've read a little bit about this bug (first on www.news.com, and very little more on www.x86.org) and there is one thing that is vague: Are Pentium Pro and/or Pentium II also effected by this bug? I would try it on my pro system, but I would rather not have to reset in the name of discovery if someone already knows the answer... Ben Pfaff wrote: George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If the instruction set is changed, the CPU part number should change. In other words, future extentions should be IMPOSSIBLE. Unused opcodes should execute a NOP or an instruction that causes the currently executing program to terminate in a known condition ... HALT? In this way, Pentium-N code running on a Pentium-(N) processor does not cause harm. When an instruction set is expanded, the processor part number should change. Oh, yeah, duh. I thought you meant that there should not be any instructions that are not useful; i.e., every possible byte value should have a defined purpose. Now that you've explained, it makes more sense. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Opti-UPS anyone?
I recently had a brief power failure, didn't lose any data whatsoever, and decided that my Linux box has had its free-bee... I read reviews, checked the HOWTO's, searched the web, and this is what I know thus far: APC seems to have the name brand recognition, but they are not Linux-friendly (though there has been a lot of reverse-engineering). BEST and TrippLite get nice marks, but not too common in stores. They are mentioned in HOWTO I read, but only very briefly. Opti-UPS gets great reviews in the general press, but no connection (that I have found, HOWTO's or otherwise) between any Linux users and that brand of UPS. Does anyone know anything about the Opti-UPS's? I sent mail to their tech support today asking if they support Linux in any way, but I would like to know if anyone has any experience with them. I'm leaning toward that one based on price, good reviews, anice warranty, and the fact that it is line-interactive. BUT, I have no experience with UPS's. If they don't support Linux, and I don't hear anything favorable, I might have to go with APC Thanks for any input. -dh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
YA PS2 Mouse question
I just read through all of the Mouse-related mail I have saved up, and I did not see an answer to this, though I did see one related comment. I am using AcceleratedX and attempting to use a MouseSystems optical mouse. The mouse has a serial connector and a PS/2 adaptor (which was given the thumbs-down in one of those messages), and I am attempting to use it on the PS/2 port of my Tyan motherboard. It works, using /dev/psaux, as a pointing device. But the middle button does not work, unless I use Chord Middle for the Mouse Buttons setting (equivalent to XFree settings). I have the protocol set to PS/2, by the way. Has anyone ever gotten anything like this configuration to work with all 3 buttons functioning? I checked the Howto for 3-button mice, but it appears to cover serial mice only, and I had used to use this mouse in serial mode with no problem (different computer, different serial port usage, now not an easy option). Any assistance appreciated -dh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Off Topic: BIOS-like sources?
I thought I heard about something like this somewhere, but I'm not sure where: Say I want to bring up my own intel-based machine, or I want to do some embedded stuff, or I just want to learn about intel-based POST, or whatever, and I don't want to deal with Award or AMI or that bunch (and I want sources). Is there a GPL or otherwise-available system BIOS (POST code, extensions, etc) anywhere out there? I thought some serious Linux kernel hacker might know the answer to this, so I post here. Thanks for any info -dh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
diald hangs up 2 seconds into connect
I have been using pon/poff successfully, but I wanted to move to diald to automate a few things. I have, essentially, a straight install of ppp stuff (/etc/ppp/* are all basically unchanged) along with a straight install of diald, both from a pre-release 1.3 dist (I had tried to get diald running a while ago, but had this same problem, then ignored it by stopping it manually on the few occasions when I would reboot... lazy!) So, diald runs and dials my modem, then pppd runs. From the looks of things, pppd is attempting to re-open a connection (???). This according to the logs (I can send them to someone interested in seeing them...) Where should I look to debug this? I have read the diald and ppp man pages, but I am clearly missing the essential point... Also, my friend is running dcontrol or something similarly-named that looks cool and provides a nice diald frontend. I saw dctrl but no information whatsoever on what that is. Any ideas there? Thanks for any assistance. -dh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Comunicator 4.02b7 is out
Rick Macdonald wrote: On Sat, 2 Aug 1997, Travis Cole wrote: To those of you interested, it is out but I don't think it is on all of the Netscape ftp sites. I am downloading it right now from ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.02/4.02b7/english/unix/linux20/ Strange, when I look all I see is an empty directory at ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.02/4.02b7/english/unix ...RickM... ftp://ftp5.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.02/4.02b7/english/unix/linux20/ several others (ftp1,3,4) were lacking. Go figure... -dh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Where is Netscape Communicator?
Jack Holt wrote: At 12:38 PM 7/25/97 -0400, Colin R. Telmer wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Matt Kazmar wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Pedro I. Sanchez wrote: I'm trying to download the latest beta of Communicator (b6 I believe) but I can't find it in any of the ftp[12..].netscape.com sites (actually it seems I can't find any unix version at all!). Can anybody tell me where is it? I found the version I'm using in ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.01/4.01b6/english/unix/other/ I had the same problem. Actually, it is somewhat strange that you can find it on the ftp site at netscape but none of there web pages list a linux version. Weird. Isn't the reason for this that it's unsupported? Netscape just builds a linux version as a courtesy? (Someone correct me if I'm misinformed.) It is unsupported by Netscape, but I believe Caldera has picked up support for it in its products. That is, I think they bundle it or otherwise sell it. The guy who does the unix builds at Netscape takes pride in porting the client to various unix platforms (as do some of the developers), and some of the original developers there (mostly unix users) like linux along with all of the other unix platforms. In fact, it is rumored that some of the best field bug reports on the unix client came from linux users using that unsupported version... -dh (I guess I should disclaim that by saying that everything above is my opinion, and does not represent the views or intentions of [NSCP] my previous employer.) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: time
Paul Miller wrote:
this is a real newbie question:
how do I change the time? (not the timezone)...
'date -s'
to set the time ('date --help' for more details on the format, etc)
'clock' to set the cmos clock on the motherboard ('man clock' for more)
cheers
-dh
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Re: Debian for PPC Macs
Stig Are M. Botterli wrote: On 16-Jul-97 Rick Hawkins wrote: My conclusion is if I buy my new boc next week I should buy a Intel, if I buy next year PPC or Alpha. Right? this is pretty much what i've come to. If i could buy an atx ppc motherboard now, I would. but i can't, so i won't :( And I'm not willing to own another apple proprietary design which is, for all intents and purposes, not upgradable ($1500 to replace the motherboard so that i can have a ne $500 processor is not upgradable). For those of you interested in CHRP PPC machine, take a look at www.pios.de. Seems like a very flexible system, and it will be shipping with Linux and BeOS. I know what my next computer will be. Well, I don't want to toot my company's horn too loudly, esp. about unannounced products, but we're coming out with some cool CHRP stuff as well, including processor upgrades, and some other cool stuff. The point of this particular post is not to get into that at the moment, though. I am planning, some time in the next few days, to run benchmarks of Apple's MkLinux on single-processor Arthur (w/backside cache) and inline-cache PowerPC machines. I hope also to have linux-pmac running to try the same stuff. I'll post the results here if anyone is interested. For the time being, I am planning to use the byte benchmark, and would appreciate any other suggested benchmarks. Elsewhere, I have read that the monolithic linux-pmac is several percentage points faster than MkLinux in a few areas, but I am hoping that the more stable one (whichever that ends up being, if any, on the hardware) will give a useful indication of performace... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian for PPC Macs
Andreas Tille wrote: Hello, I want to buy a new box and wonder about some alternatives to the Intel (compatible ... I think of K6) architecture. I've got the following information from Johannes Ramm-Ericson: [Apple stuff snipped] I need a very stable system on my new box because I will use it far distant from the internet (the prices of phone calls are quite high in Germany). I can't relay on the good support of the mailing lists and can't load some packages via ftp. Stable could be defined as Time Tested or perhaps Self-Proven which is what Linux on intel machines seems to be. It doesn't hurt that it started there and tends to be the first place where new software runs on. That damn market share thing is definitely a factor also... Is there anybody who would recommend to by a PowerMac if it is the better (faster) hardware or shoul I stick to the Intel compatible? BUT, I myself have used MkLinux (I know, it's slower) to do real work at work for CHRP development (that's Common Hardware Reference Platform), and it is pretty stable even though it is pretty young. The new PowerPC chips (the next generation, called G3 or 740/750 or Arthur or Mach V...) are, well, FAST. I haven't run any linux benchmarks on them, but I intend to once the Money-making OS is running on them officially. So, basically, the decision is similar to decing between Alpha and Intel linux... the Alpha is FAST, but there are still more linux pieces out there built and tested on intel boxes. Personally, I have a PPro box, it works, and I will probably end up with a CHRP box running some PPC Linux as well (when we ship the darn thing!). Hope that helped in some way -dh ps I recall reading somewhere that there would eventually be a Debian-PPC, which would most likely support CHRP hardware, but I'm not sure where that is in reality. Check http://www.linuxppc.org for more info on kernel ports, and the site at apple (http://www.mklinux.apple.com) has info and links. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Thanks! (was Re: Total Newbie partition question)
Thanks, Bob! I guess I should have kept going with fdisk instead of wimping out. I probably would have gone down that path eventually. I asked two of my friends familiar with this (both Debian users, in fact) and both of them answered with I don't remember exactly how that works, but it does. As always, the debian-user list is a wealth of useful, timely help and info... Thanks again (to everyone, for the list itself as well!) -dh Robert D. Hilliard wrote: On Sun, 06 Jul 1997 15:34:46 -0700, Dan Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What to I do with extended and logical partitions when I have three physical paritions on my drive already? In other words, I have hda1,hda2,hda3, and I would like to add more than hda4. Assuming I am using fdisk, how to I properly add the logical partitions? Do I make the remaining drive space an extended partition and then add logical paritions there? Am I mixing up the terms? In fdisk, give the 'n' command. When asked primary or extended choose 'e' for extended. Give starting and ending cylinders to use all available space. Then give the 'n' command, and choose 'l' for logical. Assign starting and ending cylinders for the size you want; repeat until all logical partitions you want and can fit on the disk are defined. Then give the 'p' command and study the partition table carefully. When you are satisifed with the results, check it again (this is analogous to the old carpenter's rule of measure twice, cut once), then give the 'w' command. Bob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Total Newbie partition question
I've read the HOWTO's and some other info, but it seems that this topic is sort of glossed over, and I have never really understood exactly what to do, so I wonder if someone could give me the total newbie answer to this question: What to I do with extended and logical partitions when I have three physical paritions on my drive already? In other words, I have hda1,hda2,hda3, and I would like to add more than hda4. Assuming I am using fdisk, how to I properly add the logical partitions? Do I make the remaining drive space an extended partition and then add logical paritions there? Am I mixing up the terms? I most likely missed the sentence or two that describes this, so if this information is in some obvious place, forgive me (and please point me at it...). I sheepishly tried adding an extended partition, but I wasn't exactly sure where to go, so I backed out and didn't write the disk. Thanks -dh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: determining serial link speed?
I am not sure how this would work with a PPP connection open (and thus, the device locked for PPP use), but USR modems support an AT command, ATIn, where n=0-7, and ATI6 returns link diagnostics, including current transmit and receive speeds (I have seen it working before, and it is probably the information desired here). The question is, how to access the modem to send AT strings while online (rather, how to insert +++ into the data stream to the modem, then the AT command, get the response back, and put it back online). -dh Brian K Servis wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 07:06:32 Lawrence wrote: Martin Steigerwald wrote: Hi! Is there any easy way to find out, what speed my modem connected to the ISP? (using ppp chat on Debian Linux m68k Amiga). I want to be sure that it connected at 28800 baud and not at 14400. If its a Hayes modem, there is a command that will tell the modem to report the DCE (modem-to-modem) speed rather than the DTE port to modem speed. That value is returned on the local DTE, but how to get chat to echo that so you can see it is another matter. Paul PS: Oh, forgot, that Hayes command is: ATW1 Don't know if this is Hayes or USR commands but my USR command set has Un which sets the floor connect speed where n is between 0 and 14. With 0 being disabled and 14 being 28.8kbps. There is also a Nn which sets the restricts the connect speed or when used in conjuction with Un works as the ceiling connect speed, thus creating a connect speed window. You might also want to look at the REPORT option of chat. Brian -- Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: determining serial link speed?
Niels wrote: On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Dan Hugo wrote: The question is, how to access the modem to send AT strings while online (rather, how to insert +++ into the data stream to the modem, then the AT command, get the response back, and put it back online). You want to switch from data mode to command mode? Read the booklet. (sleep two seconds) +++ (sleep two seconds) AT prompt appears, do anything you like except modifying NVRAM or some other commands, then ATO to return to data mode. While the PPP connection is active and owns the lock on that tty... I was trying to write exactly that stuff, but it doesn't seem to work. Hence my question, (see above). -dh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Serial link speed
In case anyone regarded my last message on that thread as a flame, it was not. The question is, how can one insert data into the serial stream (even when it is idle) when pppd owns the lock one that port? I would be interested to know what my modem is really doing, since it is a USR Sportster that I just upgraded the ROM in for 33.6 support (or whatever it REALLY connects at and maintains). I believe being able to send the modem an ATI6 command and receive the reply during the connection will precisely answer the original question. Thanks -dh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Apple Personal LaserWriter (serial non-PS) printer...
Quantum Fireball EIDE uncooperative
Greetings. So I'm running 1.2.x of Debian, 2.0.27 kernel, and my machine (PPro 200, Tyan 1668 ATX DP MB with 1 installed, very recent Award bios, 64M Ram, and this [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quantum EIDE Fireball drive on MB EIDE controller) was up for about 45 days, until Monday night. It was pretty hot, and when I got home from work, the drive was HOT and was basically not functioning (ie Linux crashed when I tried to type pon). Reset gave me Primary Hard Drive fail I have a TEAC 12x EIDE CDROM drive on the slave, and it would occasionally also not be recognized. Rescue disk, came up with the minimal kernel, ran e2fsck on /dev/hda1 (root on the fireball) and it fixed a few errors. I mounted it, everything looked okay, rebooted the machine, and we were golden. Fearing another hot day (I need an air conditioner, what can I say), I shut it down until just now. Same deal with the drive (except no damage this time). Failed to be recognized, boot from rescue, e2fsck reports clean, mount it and all is well, reboot without rescue, everything is fine. What is the likely cause for this? Bad EIDE controller on board? Hard drive damaged from heat? Other? I should point out that during boot, the hard drive spins up, green light looking normal, then spins down with the green light blinking slowly and non-stop. I am not familiar enough with hard drive fails to know exactly what this means. I should point out that the CDROM mounts fine as I type this. I have power management off, I skip the memory test, and this was not happening 45 days ago when I had last rebooted the machine. This got much longer than I had hoped, sorry. Thanks for any wisdom! -dh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Quantum Fireball EIDE uncooperative
Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Dan Hugo wrote: I should point out that during boot, the hard drive spins up, green light looking normal, then spins down with the green light blinking slowly and non-stop. I am not familiar enough with hard drive fails to know exactly what this means. I've seen things like this on older SCSI disks, the disk thinks something is wrong enough for it to abort it's powerup. If you went out of it's rated heat range then your toast, otherwise I'd phone up quantum and hope it's on warrenty. I got is a few months ago... less than 6. The thing is, it spins up later... If your PC got hot enought to cause the disk to have problems I'd worry about other components too.. Probably took a year off it's life! I know my 2G fireball doesn't get very hot while running.. I have a 3.2G, if that is useful. The rest of the system was fine (ie ran off the rescue disk, and was not particularly warm to the touch anywhere, and the power supply was also pretty cool), and the machine had been up on other such hot days... I just happened to check the drive thinking heat might be the problem. I guess HOT should be taken as a relative term... I mean, I touched a bare powerpc running at 300 MHz, and that was much hotter. Let's say the drive was very warm, but still spun up on my next attempt to boot (then spun down again with the blinking green light). Drive spin-up delay out-of-whack at boot time? Any other guesses? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Quantum Fireball EIDE uncooperative
Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Edward McKnight wrote: Jason, I have Seagate and Quantum scsi disks, ~1G each. One of them, I'm pretty sure it's the Quantum, spins up then down again during disk/scsi identification. I don't consider it defective--I'm assuming that the driver is exercising capabilities that the disk has. It spins up again a bit later and stays spinning. Hm, I haven't heard that with the DEC or Quantum SCSI disks we have at work, AHA controllers. Quite possibly though the controller might want to see if the disk can do a sleep mode. I wouldn't expect this from an IDE though. That's why I made sure the power management stuff was off in the bios setup... I was hoping it was some sort of power management thing going on. I recall, a long time ago, some Quantum drives shipped in Macintosh computers suffered a mass case of sticktion (is that the correct spelling?) where the drive would have to be pounded to start it up. I've heard other cases since then... but this is different, since it spins up initially and then spins down. So, if there are no known BIOS or drive tricks going on, I should be suspicious of the drive, I guess. -dh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Quantum Fireball EIDE uncooperative
Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 1997 at 09:30:02PM -0700, Dan Hugo wrote: I know my 2G fireball doesn't get very hot while running.. I have a 3.2G, if that is useful. The rest of the system was fine (ie ran off the rescue disk, and was not particularly warm to the touch anywhere, and the power supply was also pretty cool), and the machine had been up on other such hot days... I just happened to check the drive thinking heat might be the problem. I guess HOT should be taken as a relative term... I mean, I touched a bare powerpc running at 300 MHz, and that was much hotter. Let's say the drive was very warm, but still spun up on my next attempt to boot (then spun down again with the blinking green light). I have a 3.2Gb Fireball as well, and it does run pretty hot. Right now it's winter here, about 13C max, the PC has been on all day, and the drive is just warm, and it's jammed in between a floppy drive and another hard drive. Back in January [Summer here] we had five days in a row 38C, and the hard drive was barely touchable due to the heat. The ambient heat was enough to keep it really hot. That said, I never had any actual problems like this with it. How hot is it there? It was about 90f (32c? I'm a bit rusty with the units), maybe a little hotter on that particular day, but it has been even hotter than that with no apparent problems. I guess I need to figure out (this would be the point where readers could chime in) what would cause the drive to simply stop (I'm pretty sure it just wasn't spinning anymore) and then be un-mountable from a power cycle or even from a hard reset, but mountable after booting from a floppy. I think I have resigned myself to leaving the thing spinning for now and calling up the place where I got it, and/or quantum. -dh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: where is mgetty-voice
I asked myself the same thing recently. I don't have the stuff with me here at work, but if you check the readme/doc files for mgetty, you should see the home page of the author/support person. According to the web site, the voice package was in for some major overhaul of some sort. You can get sources for it there (for all of mgetty, actually, it being in the mgetty/voice dir). I got that far, and am going to actually build it when I get 5 minutes. regards -dh Where is the mgetty-voice package? I have had a (quick) look in mgetty and mgetty-fax, but couldn't see it. I have looked at the entire site :-( Thanks in advance, Adrian -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Artificial intelligence - the http://www.poboxes.com/adrian.bridgett | art of making computers act PGP key available on public key servers | like those in the movies -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
want upgrade opinion, 1-2 PPro 200/256
I have a single PPro 200MHz/256k in my system currently (running 2.0.29 kernel from a bo install about two months ago, no problems). Should I pick up the spare to fill that empty socket on my Tyan motherboard, or is the 256k cache small enough to kill off the performance advantage? I'd rather not part with the $2000 or so it would take to make a pair of 512's, so I could either get the second 256 or keep the one. Any experienced opinions out there? Inexperienced? Guesses? Thanks. Dan Hugo (Trivia: Just me using it, using it more and more for all sorts of things 64M memory currently Tyan 1668 MB with Natoma chipset Machine is Linux only ) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
