Re: What sends IGMP packets?
Anton Emmerfors [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, I have a problem: Since a few days something is sending out IGMP packages to 224.0.0.1 When my family added an iMac to our internal network I started getting a few IGMP packets each time the iMac powers up; don't remember the dest. address, but the source address was clearly the iMac's private ip address. Probably not what you've got, but thought I'd mention it just in case.
Re: debian sources
James Sasitorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do I use dselect to compile and build debian source files? Is there any way to upgrade like i would usually, but all packages compiled from source? There's no automatic way to do that, but recent versions of apt-get include a source option, which will retrieve (and if you specify additional options) compile/build and install pacakges from debian source distributions. Read the apt-get man page (a couple of times); I haven't tried the source options myself, but I hear they work.
Re: Mailbox types: MBOX or MH
Bryan Scaringe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd like to create a new mailbox folder. My MUA, XFmail, supports both MH and MBOX style mailboxes. Which is better? Or rather, what are the pros and cons of each? I would like to start using Mohogany, once its a little more stable. Will my choice of mailbox type make any difference to that transition? Here's what the gnus doc has to say about those two; I don't know XFmail, but I assume most of this applies: -- `nnmbox' UNIX systems have historically had a single, very common, and well- defined format. All messages arrive in a single spool file, and they are delineated by a line whose regular expression matches `^From_'. (My notational use of `_' is to indicate a space, to make it clear in this instance that this is not the RFC-specified `From:' header.) Because Emacs and therefore Gnus emanate historically from the Unix environment, it is simplest if one does not mess a great deal with the original mailbox format, so if one chooses this backend, Gnus' primary activity in getting mail from the real spool area to Gnus' preferred directory is simply to copy it, with no (appreciable) format change in the process. It is the dumbest way to move mail into availability in the Gnus environment. This makes it fast to move into place, but slow to parse, when Gnus has to look at what's where. `nnmh' The Rand MH mail-reading system has been around UNIX systems for a very long time; it operates by splitting one's spool file of messages into individual files, but with little or no indexing support - `nnmh' is considered to be semantically equivalent to `nnml' without active file or overviews. This is arguably the worst choice, because one gets the slowness of individual file creation married to the slowness of access parsing when learning what's new in one's groups. -- So if those are the only two choices, I guess mbox is likely to be better if you don't need MH for somehting else. HTH
Re: Mailbox types: MBOX or MH
Bryan Scaringe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could you tell me where you found this information? I spent a few hours looking for this stuff on the web and came up empty-handed. I'd like to read that entire section of the GNU docs. What I quoted is from the 'gnus' package docs. gnus is another mail/news reader/composer.
Re: Word to the wise Re: is your WINE broken too?
Pollywog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 14-Oct-99 David Coe wrote: Any time you're going to upgrade a wine package (or any other package that's either alpha status (like wine) or extremely critical to the continued operation of your system), I recommend you use dpkg-repack first,, to save a copy of the currently-installed version. I was wondering if I could do something like that, but I was not familiar with that dpkg option. Thanks for the info. I will record it for future use. I should have said, ``dpkg-repack'' is a separate package, not a dpkg option.
Re: dpkg-repack 1.0 bug?
Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Oct 15, 1999 at 01:11:52AM -, Pollywog wrote: dpkg-repack: Errors were encountered in processing. dpkg-repack: The package may not unpack correctly. Is this a bug? It certainly is not a feature. I assume you are doing this in your home directory. It's caused by the directories it's creating retaining the s+g bit from your homedir. I suggest you use dpkg-repack in /tmp. (But don't leave them there after they've been built, because /tmp normally gets cleaned when you reboot.)
Word to the wise Re: is your WINE broken too?
Any time you're going to upgrade a wine package (or any other package that's either alpha status (like wine) or extremely critical to the continued operation of your system), I recommend you use dpkg-repack first,, to save a copy of the currently-installed version. Then, after you find out that the new package isn't what you hoped it would be, you can dpkg --install the one you saved and get right back to where you were beforehand.
Re: satan - other scanners
Salman Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is a Debian package (stable or unstable) available for portsentry ? I haven't been able to find one as yet. Someone is packaging it (for potato); check the debian-devel archive if you want to know who that is (I don't remember); I've been using port sentry for many months on debian slink and potato systems, without having packaged them -- it can be installed pretty cleanly into /usr/local/etc ... as distributed. (Yes, I too am looking forward to a packaged version, but just because I'm tired of keeping track of whether the upstream source has been updated (and have been too lazy to set up an automated check.))
Re: cannot route after adding more interfaces
Shao Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, when I add an additional interface, eth0:7 which isn't used before, the routing tables change to the following: 100.100.100.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0:7 100.100.100.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 26251 eth0:11 100.100.100.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 2233 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo default our.gate.way.ip 0.0.0.0 UG1 0 16 eth0:7 And the machine can no longer traceroute to anywhere. I'm no IP expert, but eth0, eth0:7, eth0:11, etc. are all the same device, so (as I understand and am doing on at least two multihosting linux systems) I always just specify eth0 in the ``route add'' commands. Maybe you should try that and see if it helps?
Re: App for creating .deb files from perl Modules
John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] unless there is some way to make dselect apt recognize that the required packages are installed, though not where debian expects them. [...] Take a look at the debian package equivs -- it was made for that; you must be careful with the dependencies and version numbers you use, of course.
Re: Cleaning out dselect
David J. Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any way to wipe the slate clean and get rid of this mystery cache list? The mystery cache list is /var/lib/dpkg/status -- you don't want to remove it, but you may want to edit it. Be careful, and keep a backup.
Re: wu-ftpd vs proftpd vs ftpd
Ron Farrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: wu-ftpd 2.5.0-4 proftpd 1.2.0pre7-3 ftpd 0.11-4 Which one of them is better? I don't want something that is going to puke on large files. Something that has lots of features to play with would be nice. User and anonymous ftp access is required. This has been a point of contention for many months; I don't think anyone can answer you question fully for you -- search the debian mailing lists, or search Usenet (e.g. at deja.com) if you want to read all the various pros and cons. My personal advice is don't use (any of the) wu-ftpd or proftpd versions unless you actaully need to do virtual hosting (support different ftp archives at different internet host addresses on the same machine). The simple ftpd is likely a lot more secure, and definitely a lot less complex. They all allow you to provide user and anonymous ftp access.
Re: potato broke X :(
Ron Farrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, I sent in a bug report. I followed the instructions at bugs.debian.org, so I hope I did it right... The bug report number is 47105. Looks good to me; but you should, technically, have included the versions of the packages that xserver-svga depends on. (That's one of the things 'reportbug' does for you automatically.) But don't worry about it; the maintainer will ask for those specific versions (and maybe others) if he needs to know.
Re: How to Remove kernel-image-2.2.9 with Buggy Script?
Art Lemasters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can't return outside a subroutine at /var/lib/dpkg/info/kernel-image-2.2.9.postrm line 111 Post that subroutine here, I'll bet someone can tell you how to change it to make it work, especially since all you want to do is remove the package.
Re: how to remove a broken package (solved)
Charles Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] After banging my head on this problem and becoming quite intimate with the different options of dpkg and apt-get, I discovered what the problem was. In order to disable apache, squid ,etc, one of my coworkers had added the line 'exit 1' at the beginning of the scripts in /etc/init.d. Somehow this effectively disabled the removal/purge process. After removing this line, everything went smoothly. Grief, is mind expansion always this painful? Heh, yes, that makes perfect sense. Jusy FYI, When you try to remove a package, dpkg runs packagename.prerm, a maintainer-supplied script or program that cleans up for you before letting dpkg remove the package. Part of that cleanup frequently involves running init.d/whatever stop to be sure the about-to-be-removed daemons aren't still running. (Since you have every right to edit the init.d scripts, you could claim this is a bug in that pre-removal script -- perhaps it should just warn you that the stop script didn't complete successfully (i.e. didn't exit with 0), and allow you to proceed with the removal anyway. Then again, the package maintainer could say you broke it, so you own both pieces. The real fault is with whomever edited that script; had s/he put exit 0 at the top instead of exit 1, everyone would have been happy. (Exit 0 means OK, and anything else means there was an error.)
Re: potato broke X :(
Ron Farrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Coe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Still getting that X: undefined symbol: __syscall ? Yep. Hmmm, let's see what packages you have on hold --- just a shot in the dark. Please do: sgrep -e '(DEB_PKG containing (DEB_STATUS containing hold))' /var/lib/dpkg/status | grep '^Package: \|^Status: \|^Version:' This returns nothing! Absolutly no output... OK, that's good, that means you don't have any packages held back, i.e. intentionally not upgraded. and post what it reports. Thanks. P.S. Have you opened a bug report on this yet? If so, please tell me the bug number. Thanks. No, I have not opened a bug report. Do I need to? If yes, how do I do that? Easiset way is to download reportbug and run it, follow the prompts; go to http://bugs.debian.org/ if you're unsure about what to say, or if you want to do it manually (by sending a mail message).
Re: Cannot convert string ... to type FontStruct
Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I get n error with several programs under linux (mostly xemacs21 recently) sayying that it can't convert string to type fontstruct. for example: Warning: Cannot convert string -ttf-web hebrew monospace-medium-r-normal-regular-*-160-75-75-m-*-iso8859-1 to type FontStruct Last I heard (a week ago?) xemacs21 was still not working in a lot of ways (don't mean to cast aspersions; you can browse the debian-devel archive if you want to see specifics, and/or check out the bugs list). xemacs20 will probably make you a lot happier for now. Is this error occurring for anything other than xemacs21?
Re: kernel compile problem
See also bug #47054, which suggests a one-line additon to the kernel-package script that's probably a better fix to this problem (though I haven't tested it).
Re: gdm locks me out!!!
Sergio Brandano [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] ... I can not use the system in any way. How do I boot in single user mode from lilo? boot: linux single
Re: kernel compile problem
Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 10 Oct 1999, David Coe wrote: See also bug #47054, which suggests a one-line additon to the... I got it to work by changing line 759 to the following... Thanks!
Re: potato broke X :(
Ron Farrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] The only thing in '/root/.xsession-errors' is: X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). [...] # dpkg --print-avail xserver* Package 'xserver' is not available. WTF? Did I do something wrong in the command? Yeah there is no package named 'xserver', and dpkg --print-avail doesn't expand wildcards (you'd want to quote it anyway, as 'xserver*', but that doesn't work either). It wants a specific list of package names. A better tool for that kind of question is 'sgrep,' which allows you to grep for contents in structured text files, and comes with the definitions for dpkg-format 'available' and 'status' files already configured. We want to know is what x11 packages you've asked it to install and what their status and versions are. We can ask that question almost directly: sgrep -e '(DEB_PKG containing (DEB_SECTION containing x11)) containing (DEB_STATUS containing install)' /var/lib/dpkg/status | grep '^Package: \|^Status: \|^Version: ' The output from that will at least give me enough to start asking other questions ;-). Thanks for your patience and persistence...
Re: potato broke X :(
Ron Farrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've attached a file named log_x11.txt which is the output of the
command you gave me (it was too long to try and type).
OK, I'm going to digest that for a while... to see if there are
any obvious problems (missing pieces, bad versions).
Meanwhile, please tell me also what's in each of (if they exist):
in /etc/X11/:
window-managers
Xsession.options
in your user directory:
.xinitrc
.xserverrc
.xsession
And, if you really feel like it, try manually performing each
piece of startx at the bash prompt ('which startx' will tell you
where startx is), and see if you can find the point of failure.
More later.
Re: potato broke X :(
Ron Farrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] in your user directory: .xinitrc .xserverrc .xsession I could not find any of these files in my users home or /root!?! Is this part of the problem? No! They could be contributing to the problem if they were there, but their absence is quite normal.
Re: potato broke X :(
Ron Farrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David Coe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[...]
And, if you really feel like it, try manually performing each
piece of startx at the bash prompt ('which startx' will tell you
where startx is), and see if you can find the point of failure.
I am not sure what to do here.. But I'll look at startx and see if there
is something that I can notice.
[...]
Well, as a starting point, try just this:
1) exit to be sure we start clean
2) login (as root or a normal user, doesn't really matter for this test,
maybe even try both to see if there are differences).
3) at the shell prompt just type 'xinit' and watch to see what happens;
it will either spew out a bunch of text and start an X window with a
single xterm (from which you can 'exit'), or it will spew out a bunch of
text and fail just like before. Let me know what it does, and what it
spews.
Re: potato broke X :(
Ron Farrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Okay, I logged in as root and typed 'xinit' and it went to vt7 and just sits there with a blank screen. Switching back to the vt that I started with, it has the error I previously posted about connection broken. OK, that error, X: error in loading shared libraries: X: undefined symbol: __syscall appears to me to be coming from /usr/X11R6/bin/X, which is part of the xserver-common package. Your version of xserver-common is Version: 3.3.2.3a-11 while current potato is Version: 3.3.5-1 You *might* want to try upgrading that (and any dependencies it has), if you can afford to play with this system. Be sure you have a way to get back (I suggest using dpkg-repack to save your previous versions of the packages you intend to upgrade), in case you end up in worse shape than you are now. If doing that doesn't take us at least a step closer to a solution, I think you should open a bug report against xserver-common [also, if you can't afford to upgrade to 3.3.5-1, I'd open a bug report and explain that fact] --- the problem could be elsewhere, and the xserver-common maintainer may well recognize it and tell you exactly what unrelated thing to change to fix it.
Re: potato broke X :(
Art Lemasters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...not sure, because I began running xdm for potato, but did you copy and config an .xinitrc to the user home directory X is running in? You might check the X docs on this. Art, Actually, xinit doesn't need an .xinitrc; it defaults to using xterm as the initial x client -- no window manager, just the X server with a single xterm; Ron's problem is (apparently) occurring when xinit starts 'X'; we were just trying to narrow it down with that bare experiment. You're right, of course, if he wanted to do anything useful (like have a window manager), he'd need an .xinitrc if running 'xinit' directly.
Re: potato broke X :(
Ron Farrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I ran apt-get update;apt-get -f dist-upgrade last night. It only took 12 hours at 26.4K... Anyway, I've attached an updated listing of installed x11 packages. Ohh, and it still doesn't work... Still getting that X: undefined symbol: __syscall ? Hmmm, let's see what packages you have on hold --- just a shot in the dark. Please do: sgrep -e '(DEB_PKG containing (DEB_STATUS containing hold))' /var/lib/dpkg/status | grep '^Package: \|^Status: \|^Version:' and post what it reports. Thanks. P.S. Have you opened a bug report on this yet? If so, please tell me the bug number. Thanks.
Re: potato: procps and bsdutils conflict?
Hwei Sheng TEOH [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/bsdutils_1%3a2.9w-3.1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/bin/kill', which is also in package procps [...] However, I was just wondering, is it really the case that both bsdutils and procps contains the program /bin/kill? Are they the same, or are they different versions? Is the alternatives mechanisms in place for /bin/kill? Apparently there's some problem with both packages containing the same file? There's been discussion about this recently on debian-devel. IIRC, the bsdutils version of kill is not linux-specific, but is not well-supported upstream, the util-linux version is well-supported upstream but doesn't work on non-linux debian systems (e.g. the Hurd). The respective maintainers will presumably work out a solution that works best for everyone. (Note that this problem only affects unstable/potato). You did the right thing by forcing one of them; at the moment it doesn't appear to matter much which one you let override the other. [...] This does sound like a problem with these two packages... only I'm not quite sure for which package I should file a bug report. My general advice: Just choose one, and mention your multi-package suspcions (what you wrote to debian-user would make an excellent bug report). In a case like this, just report it against the package dpkg complained about -- the maintainer will happily reassign the bug to another package/maintainer if you happened to chose what s/he thinks is the wrong one.
Re: Problem w/apt-get dist-upgrade
Stephen R. Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to upgrade a fresh slink base-install to potato. I've upgraded apt (0.3.7slink0), edited sources.list, did apt-get update, and apt-get dist-upgrade. (I've done all this from scratch 3 times - it's repeatable). I get the following error: E: Problem executing scripts DPkg::Pre-Invoke 'mount -o remount,rw /usr' Just a guess: you have your /usr partition mounted read-only, and for some reason Dpkg was unable to remount it read-write. Try remounting it yourself and ensure it's writable before running apt-get dist-upgrade, and see if it then works. And, regardless, file a bug report containing the details. Also, if I try dpkg --configure -a: Setting up bsdutils (2.9w-3.1) ... dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-installation script: No such file or directory Hmmm, that means there's no bsdutils.postinst in /var/log/dpkg/info, where dpkg should have unpacked it. Maybe fallout from the above error?
Re: potato: procps and bsdutils conflict?
Hwei Sheng TEOH [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmmm, only one combination seems to work though... installing procps first will cause dpkg to complain when bsdutils is being installed. For some reason, installing procps on top of bsdutils seem to simply overwrite /bin/kill with no warning. I'm not sure how good this situation is, but I suppose both versions of /bin/kill does the same thing. (It doesn't really affect me because I use tcsh and it has a built-in kill command.). That's because procps says Replaces: bsdmainutils (which means it contains some files which replace like-named files from bsdmainutils), while bsdmainutils doesn't have the reverse. This'll all be ironed out eventually.
Re: potato broke X :(
Ron Farrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After upgrading to potato X dies with this error: X: error in loading shared libraries: X: undefined symbol: __syscall X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). Any ideas on how to fix this? are you starting X with 'startx' or xdm (or have you tried both)? is there anything in .xsession.errors? what versions (potato is not specific enough) of the x packages and window managers are you using? X is working well on potato systems, so something more speicifc is the problem. Post and we'll help.
Re: Installing potato
esl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can someone please help me. I would like to install potato. I started with resc1440.bin found under potato subtree. Last I kenw, you shouldn't use those unless you want to help develop them; they're really not ready yet. Join the debian-boot mailing list if you want to help. I have successfully installed slink using apt. You're in good shape, then. You can (relatively) easily upgrade from a stable slink to unstable potato using apt and/or dselect. Be aware that potato is still changing, and may be changing *while* you're downloading it, so you may stumble a couple of times, but it's do-able. First, be sure you have the current slink apt and dpkg; woudln't hurt to be sure you're current on everything else in slink too, by doing apt-get clean; apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get clean. If you encounter errors, ask for help and get them fixed (or removed) _before_ making the jump to potato. Then update your /etc/apt/sources.list to point to potato, e.g. I changed mine as follows: ###-slink-### #deb http://security.debian.org/ slink updates #deb ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/gnome-1.0/debian slink main #deb http://ftp1.us.debian.org/debian slink main contrib non-free #deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US slink non-US ###-potato-### deb http://http.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/ potato non-US/main non-US/contrib non-US/non-free Note the new format, including the space after the /, for the non-US stuff; there are probably other ways, but the above works. Now, if you have the time and disk space, you can do a mass upgrade with: apt-get clean apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade apt-get clean Of course the dist-upgrade is the one that will take some time. If you don't have the time or disk space to do it all at once, or just want to pick and choose your upgrade steps, i.e. do what's most important to you first, you should use dselect: Set [A]ccess to apt Do an [U]pdate Use [S]elect to put the updated things you *don't* immediately care about on hold (flag them '='); Dselect will complain if you try to upgrade too few things (i.e. don't satisfy dependencies) at once -- if you're new to Dselect, read the help carefully; it does work but is a bit difficult to get your mind around at first. Use [I]nstall to download and upgrade the non-held packages Go back to [U]pdate and do the next batch of things you care to upgrade. If dist-upgrade or [I]nstall is unable to find some of the required files, let it run through what it can find, and then do the update again and try again. If it encounters packages that it can't configure because of dependency problems, let it keep going, and just try the [I]nstall or dist-upgrade again when it gives up. You may have to do that a few times. Eventually, you'll have a reasonably good potato system, but might have a few packages that couldn't install or configure ... sometimes removing (purging) and reinstalling those will fix it. If not, ask here (post the details) for help. (If you run 'script' before running apt-get or dselect, you'll get a disk file containing all the terminal interaction, which might be very valuable later when you're trying to reconstruct what went wrong.) If you do it on a good day and/or lead a charmed life, nothing will go wrong at all. I've actually seen it happen. Good Luck and enjoy.
Splitting debian-user (was Re: DO NOT UPGRADE TO POTATO...)
Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A. M. Varon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could we have a potato mailing lists? That's part of what debian-devel *is* for. Why would we want another list for it? Ben answered on _debian-devel_, but not on _debian-user_; I hope he doesn't mind my posting in both places (this discussion has been going on in both places). A.M. said (I'm paraphrasing) that casual readers of debian-user may come away thinking Debian has lots of problems, when in fact the problems discussed are mostly in the unstable (currently potato) distribution. A.M's suggestion may have merit: a new _debian-user-unstable_ list could separate the user bleeding edge discussions from the stable user discussions. As Ben said, _debian-devel_ is already a place to discuss problems with unstable -- but there's lots of cruft there that's uninteresting to unstable users unless they're considering becoming developers. But if we create _debian-user-unstable_, the _debian-user_ readers would miss (would they care?) the discussions -- some of them interesting -- about changes, and might therefore be less well prepared to handle the upgrade to potato when it becomes stable. So I obviously can't make up my mind; I think we should let the _debian-user_ population decide: would you like to split the group? Here (from the http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe page) is how the above-mentioned lists are currently described: debian-user This is the main mailing list for all users and developers of Debian GNU/Linux systems. Many developers also follow the threads and step in to help every now and then. debian-devel This is the main discussion list for development topics. All developers should be subscribed to this list. As it is open to the public anyone can join the discussion.
Re: Read-only file system on /dev/fd0?
Yifang Dai [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hit this strange problem today, on my potato machine: /boot# dd if=bzImage-2.2.12 of=/dev/fd0 dd: /dev/fd0: Read-only file system do you have it mounted? try umount /dev/fd0 and see if that lets it work.
Re: HELP: getting rid of replace kernel-image-2.2.12 conflict...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 11:06:16PM +0200, Jean-Yves BARBIER wrote: On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 09:46:22PM +0200, Bruno Boettcher wrote: Instead of traditionnal compilation, use 'make-kpkg', which will build a package from your new kernel; install this package, dselect should not complain any more. Well I did the make-kpkg but apt-get dist-upgrade tried to 'upgrade' it, so i put it on hold. Any step I missed? the make-kpkg was made on another comp but I suppose it has nothing to do. The kernel-package readme file explains how to prevent that, near the end of a lengthy discussion under Versions and revisions: So, try using an epoch for your custom packages: $Get_Root make-kpkg --revision=3:custom.1.0 kernel_image (Get_Root is whatever you need to become root -- fakeroot or sudo are examples that come to mind). The trick is that 3:custom.whatever will always be higher than any debian-provided kernel package, so apt and dselect won't try to upgrade it for you.
Re: procps vs. bsdutils in unstable
Marshal Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I really don't know where I should post this, but I guess here would be as good as any. The latest procps package is overlapping with bsdutils. Namely /bin/kill is overlapping. Yes, the new bsdutils (not yet on the mirrors) has removed /bin/kill, so we've now got one in procps instead. The dependencies weren't managed as well as they should have been, but that's why we call the potato release unstable. Solutions: (1) put procps on hold until after bsdutils gets updated or (2) install procps using dpkg --force-overwrite HTH.
Re: brokenness somewhere in netbase or dpkg (or apt?)
Ari Heitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This is an already-reported and recently-fixed bug in the new
(potato/unstable) debconf utility. Try installing the latest
debconf first and see if that makes the rest of it work.
The latest as of today is: debconf (0.1.53) unstable; the bug you
encountered was apparently fixed in debconf 0.1.50 -- see the debconf
changelog for details and bug numbers.
Hi,
A couple of days ago when I apt-get upgraded, it gave me a new version
of netbase, 3.16-3. When it got to the install part, it ran its setup
script and started asking me questions about my networking config (which
surprised me -- why didn't it just use the config that was already
there?).
I answered the questions and continued. It gave me an error and quit. I
put a hold on my previous version of netbase, 2.16-2, and retried to
apt-get upgrade. Now I get:
templestowe:~# apt-get upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages have been kept back
librpm1 lyx netbase rpm
68 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/21.2MB of archives. After unpacking 10.3MB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
Can't use string (ARRAY(0x8231354)) as an ARRAY ref while strict refs
in use at /usr/lib/perl5/Debian/DebConf/Element/Dialog/Select.pm line 46,
GEN0 chunk 5.
E: Sub-process dpkg-preconfig --apt returned an error code (29)
E: Failure running script dpkg-preconfig --apt
Not that I know any perl, but that line is in this file:
# If it is more than will fit on the screen, just display the prompt
# first in a series of message boxes.
if ($lines $screen_lines - 2) {
$this-frontend-showtext($text);
# Now make sure the short description is displayed in the
# dialog they actually enter info into.
($text, $lines, $columns)=$this-frontend-sizetext(
$this-question-description);
}
my $default=$this-question-value;
my @params=();
#-the below is line #46
my @[EMAIL PROTECTED]question-choices};
I don't know if netbase is actually the problem at all -- it also gave me
a new version of dpkg, 1.4.1.13, and the error seems more likely to be
coming from there.
Any ideas/suggestions/comments/snide remarks?
Please cc: me on any list posts.
Cheers,
Ari Heitner
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Re: expiring mail in Gnus
Matthias Hertel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I'd like to configure Gnus to make reading debian-users somewhat newsgroup-like, ie. all messages that are read (as opposed to unread, ticked, or dormant) should be deleted from my disk after three days. This is a common concern and source of confusion, and I include myself among the confused. First of all, Xemacs20 and Emacs20 (unstable, potato versions) use different versions of gnus *and* different versions of the gnus info manual -- so be *sure* you're looking at the info doc that corresponds to the gnus that's actually running. (The main gnus info pages metion their versions, and M-x gnus-version will display the version your current emacs is using.) If you're focusing on Pterodactyl gnus, there has been some recent discussion about auto-expiring on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list (and you really *should* be subscribed to that list if you're testing Pterodactyl). There's a searchable ding mailing list archive at http://www.gnus.org/list-archives/ding/ which might prove helpful. I thought that setting the following group parameters for my debian-users group would accomplish this [...] But it doesn't. [...] I don't use auto-expire or total-expire myself (I prefer to 'E'-tag, the messages I want to expire), but I do have the following in my .gnus file: (setq nnmail-expiry-wait 2) ;; delete mail two days after it was (E)xpired (default was 7 days) ... so maybe you should see what nnmail-expiry-wait is for you? [...] A somewhat related problem: Normally read and dormant messages are hidden from the summary buffer. How do I *temporarily* make them visible? Try C-u SPC in the *Group* buffer. Good luck.
Re: HTML support for ispell
peter karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you think about this? I downloaded the Debian ispell sources and applied the patches, and they work like a charm here. Would be nice to have in the official package, if possible! Thanks, I'll see what I can do -- this looks promising.
Re: DO NOT UPGRADE TO POTATO. MENU UPLOAD ON OCT 2 KILLS SYSTEMS
Adam == Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Adam I just did an upgrade. The menu pkg ate memory like no Adam tomorrow. [...] Adam Cease and desist at all costs. Adam I have just been informed on irc that a fixed menu is in Adam incoming. So, it should all be fixed tomorrow. [...] Adam, thanks. What are the menu package versions (broken and fixed)? Thanks.
Re: apt-get: upgrade one package to particular version?
egm2@jps.net wrote: On 22 Jul, Carl Fink wrote: | apt-get --install icewm | | should be all you need to do. | | No, actually it isn't, since that would install the version in | *stable*. That's what I have installed now. What I'd like to do is | install the version in *unstable*, without changing all my other | packages to the unstable version. My bad. In that case, you're gonna have to go for broke and upgrade the whole shebang. Too many things have changed. Or, you could try compiling the sources against your libraries. Can't guarantee that'll work though. I have some suggestions, having recently (over many months) gone gradually from recompiling potato packages under slink, to upgrading to libc6.1 under slink, to a full potato installation on one system, while keeping others on slink with the occasional newer package added. I think it's smart to take it slowly. Don't just jump to potato with an apt-get dist-upgrade; potato has too many frequently-changing pieces. You can investigate what apt-get *would* do for a particular package, by pointing your sources.list at the potato distribution and doing: apt-get --simulate install icewm That'll show you all the things it would upgrade on your behalf if you went ahead and did it without the --simulate option. Go read the changelogs for the packages that would be upgraded, and check the open bug reports (at bugs.debian.org/packagename); if things appear to be workable, give it a try, but be prepared to fall back if it doesn't work. Good luck.
Re: Keystone on Debian?
David H. Silber wrote: David H. Silber wrote: Has anyone out there successfully installed Keystone on a Debian system? On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 09:35:29PM +, David Coe wrote: Yes, many versions of it. If you use apache, php3-mysql and php3 from slink, it's pretty straightforward. If you run into problems, write. OK, since you offer...:-) I've tried this on two Debian systems. One runs slink, the other potato. The slink system (www.orbits.com) has: ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==- ii apache 1.3.3-7Versatile, high-performance HTTP server ii apache-common 1.3.3-7Support files for all Apache webservers ii apache-doc 1.3.3-4Apache documentation ii apt 0.1.9 Front-End for dpkg ii base-files 2.0.3 Debian Base System Miscellaneous Files ii dpkg1.4.0.31 Package maintenance system for Debian Linux ii libc6 2.0.7v-1 The GNU C library version 2 (run-time files) ii libc6-dev 2.0.7v-1 The GNU C library version 2 (development fil ii mysql-base 3.21.33b-4 mysql database client binaries ii mysql-dev 3.21.33b-4 mysql database development lib ii mysql-doc 3.21.33b-4 mysql database documentation ii mysql-manual0.95-1-1 MySQL Manual in HTML format ii mysql-server3.21.33b-2 mysql database server ii netbase 3.11-1 Basic TCP/IP networking binaries ii netstd 3.07-7 Networking binaries and daemons for Linux ii php33.0.5-3A server-side, HTML-embedded scripting langu ii php3-mysql 3.0.5-3Mysql module for PHP3 (apache) The only differences I have among those are: ii base-files 2.1.0 Debian Base System Miscellaneous Files ii dpkg1.4.0.34 Package maintenance system for Debian Linux ii netstd 3.07-7slink.3 Networking binaries and daemons for Linux ii libc6 2.0.7.19981211 GNU C Library: shared libraries ii libc6-dev 2.0.7.19981211 GNU C Library: Development libraries and hea ...but I don't think any of that should matter Keystone is installed in /opt/keystone. Apache is configured to make this directory appear at /keystone. That much is working, I tested it from here. Here's what I have in my apache config files: In httpd.conf: (same as you have) LoadModule php3_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp3.so In srm.conf: # DirectoryIndex: Name of the file or files to use as a pre-written HTML # directory index. Separate multiple entries with spaces. DirectoryIndex index.php3 index.html Welcome.html ...that makes accesses to (e.g.) /keystone/ go to /keystone/index.php3 ...A slight aside... I opened http://www.orbits.com/keystone/; and got (I believe because you don't have index.php3 in your DirectoryIndex directive and you have automatic directory indexing enabled) a full display of your keystone directory ... you probably want to fix that when you put this into production. You should also make your conf/ subdirectory unbrowseable, I believe. So then I opened http://www.orbits.com/keystone/index.php3; and got: Warning: Access denied for user: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (Using password: YES) in mysql.php3 on line 20 Fatal error: Call to unsupported or undefined function logit() in db.php3 on line 98 ... you may want to look in your keystone.log (or wherever you have it put its errors) to see if it gives you more details. Have you tested mysql access directly using 'mysql -pwhatever keystone' -- maybe you don't have the mysql permissions set correctly, or aren't using the correct password. So check those out, and let me know if you make progress. The mysql doc is one huge document (single html page), but it's got a lot of good information about setting up privileges for hosts and users --- I also run pgsql which has a separate and just as confusing mechanism, so I have to read the respective docs every time I want to change one of them. If you get stuck, ask, maybe I've worked through it before and can figure it out again. At this point, I don't really want to play with the apache mysql installations on www.orbits.com, as that system supports a couple of web sites that should not be allowed to have problems. The potato system (mercury.orbits.com) has: ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==- ii apache 1.3.6-9Versatile, high-performance HTTP server ii apache-common 1.3.6-9Support files for all Apache webservers ii apt 0.3.6 Advanced front-end for dpkg ii base-files 2.1.6 Debian Base System Miscellaneous Files ii dpkg1.4.1.1Package maintenance system for Debian Linux ii
Re: Wanted: Location of unused packages
Take a look at the popularity-contest package: DEBIAN PACKAGE POPULARITY CONTEST - Avery Pennarun [EMAIL PROTECTED] = This package contains a script, /usr/sbin/popularity-contest, which generates a list of the packages installed on your system, in order of most-recently-used to least-recently-used. The simplest way to use this information is to help clean up your hard drive by removing unused packages. For example, popularity-contest | grep 'OLD' will show you a list of packages you haven't used in a while. Note that this output isn't totally accurate: some packages appear old but you can't remove them because other (non-old) packages depend on them. Shared library packages are particularly bad this way because it's impossible to tell when a library was last used. ... peter karlsson wrote: Is there a program available that looks at the access times of the various installed binaries, and reports on the packages whose binaries hasn't been used in the last, say, two months? Would be a great way to get a list of those hey, this sounds cool! packages one selected in dselect but never got around to use, because when dselect finished running, one had already forgotten what the heck it was about.
Re: PCMCIA and NFS
Near the bottom of /etc/pcmcia/network.opts you'll see a couple of almost-empty
shell functions, start_fn() and stop_fn().
I believe they're installed originally as:
# Extra stuff to do after setting up the interface
start_fn () { return; }
# Extra stuff to do before shutting down the interface
stop_fn () { return; }
You can just change start_fn to be:
# Extra stuff to do after setting up the interface
start_fn () {
mount -a ;
return; }
My experience is in slink, but I suspect potato is similar.
Alec Smith wrote:
Is there a way to go about making NFS connections (automatically) after
the card manager is started for PCMCIA network adapters? I'd like to avoid
having to do a mount -a as root before I can start working.
Configuration is basically a complete Potato install.
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Re: SV: A better telnet?
Take a look at the vncserver and xvncviewer packages -- they tell you where to get Windows versions of the same stuff. Very nice, you can run vncserver on linux and vncviewer under windows and have access to a complete linux/x desktop from windows, and you can run vncserver(or something).exe on windows and xvncviewer on linux and control a windows machine from your x desktop. Also, there's at least one free xserver for Windows -- do a web search if that's what you need, sorry I don't remember where it is. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try Reflection4 from WRQ Inc. It's not free (sorry). I use it at work (WinNT/LAN/Firewall) to emulate all sorts of terminals, and I'm very satisfied. It has extended setup possibilities including keyboard mapping, color, high-powered scripting/logging and so on. Vitux -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Mark Wright [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt:8. juni 1999 19:44 Til: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: recipient list not shown Emne: A better telnet? I often need to telnet from my NT box to my Debian server. Of course, this means I lose everything from Vim syntax highlighting to sensible Delete and Backspace key mappings. What I really want is the equivalent of the Linux console, but remotely from a Win32 machine. Does such a thing exist? --- Mark Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Keystone on Debian?
Yes, many versions of it. If you use apache, php3-mysql and php3 from slink, it's pretty straightforward. If you run into problems, write. David H. Silber wrote: Has anyone out there successfully installed Keystone on a Debian system?
Re: How to create mailing list like debian-user?
I suggest you also look at mailman (packaged for slink and potato). Colin Marquardt wrote: * Jens K Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could someone please advise how to set up a mailing list like the debian-user? I assume all the software is available in debian, but which packages will be necessary? A few I found with dselect (search with /, search again with \): majordomo (probably the most used) ezmlm-src (+xezmlm) berolist smartlist (slink) HTH, Colin -- Colin Marquardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Changing IP address
Doug Thistlethwaite wrote: Dan Willard wrote: You are correct that your ISP is clueless. Going by the numbers that you sent, your home network and theirs are one network with the same network number and broadcast number. And why your router calls out whenever a broadcast packet is sent. Dan, Thanks for the information. I was kind of thinking that they had a problem with what they gave me. (see below). Now, provided that the numbers for your range are correct, your linux box is trying to take the broadcast number for your home network. And yes, the first number in a range is the network number (even) and the last is the broadcast number (odd), your reasoning looks good to me. Gonna take a little work to straighten it out. You should call your ISP and varify your home network numbers. Yell at 'em if they give you a wrong subnet, its a major security hole for both you and them. (Unless you are using your office's network, then different rules apply). Both your win95 and linux boxes need the same subnetmask number. You'll need to change you linux box's ip to something other than 103 (100 looks good). You should also change your router's subnet to match (204.178.54.101/29 if the router doen't like it try /21, some routers drop the first 8 bits) and change its network and broadcast numbers. You will also probably have to change the route in the router to point to the new network. I hope I haven't forgoten anything. Now, don't you just love computers and networks? Humm Basically, my ISP gave me three IP addresses (I had to twist his arm as normally he changes A LOT more for static IP addresses. I have .101, .102, and .103 on his network with .253 being his system. His suggestion is to use 255.255.255.0 for the netmask, with .0 for the network and .255 for the broadcast address. I have asked him a few question on this issue and I think he is already getting tired of me! :O Oh, one more piece of information If I pull the power on my router, my pc can't connect to the samba on the linux at all! I have the feeling that if I push to much, I am going to become a internet orphan again. In my location, I am having a very hard time trying to get ISDN service within my local calling area. I am basically waiting for DSL to arrive later this summer. This said... Is there any way for me to use the three IP addresses they assigned to me? I know the router (pipeline 50) has some fancy features and maybe they can help. I tried the following this morning after your last message. IPADDR .103 Can I know the pipeline 50 has filters, DHCP, NAT, and other fancy features. Unfortunately, I do not have a manual for the device. This is probably not your real problem, but you can download the Pipeline manuals from www.ascend.com.
Re: help! install with DOS-lost HD on boot
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Home with the school computer for summer... I wanted to redo my drive layout due to very limited space, squeezing out OS/2 and Windows for Linux. I've lost my Linux drives, though. I am hoping someone could point out where I screwed up, and suggest a way to avoid reinstalling (or doing it right ;). If you haven't written to those ext2 partitions since the screw-up, you *should* be able to recover... After backing up critical files to a new-but-old 430 Mb HD (hdb), I wiped all partitions on hda, created a 100 Mb fat DOS partition, 2 primaries for root and swap, then 3 logicals on the rest of hda for /var, /home, and /usr. Install of 2.1 went well from CD. Set up LILO as my boot manager. Rebooted to a DOS floppy to check, and then format C (it saw the partition as 90 Mb instead of 100--did I choose the wrong fs type?)... Probably not, we'll see soon... more likely the FORMAT program counts differently or measures its usable space. Also remember that 100,000,000 is really about 95 megabytes (where a megabyte is 1024*1024 bytes). ...Booted into Linux. Untarred the old DOS system onto the C partition, modified lilo.conf, and ran lilo. This led to the inability to boot DOS (non-system disk or disk error ... or whatever it was). So LILO was able to boot at this point, right? But when you told LILO to start the DOS partiton DOS didn't see it as a system disk, correct? I think there's a DOS command sys (sorry, it's been a long time) that copies (from a bootable floppy) the necessary stuff to a hard drive partition -- so you could boot from a DOS A: drive, be sure you can see C:, and then say sys C: -- it should say system files transferred or something to that effect . Someone else more familiar with (recent versions of) DOS can probably offer advice here. Using cfdisk I reset both hda1 and hda2 as bootable (1st--DOS, 2nd--Debian) and wrote to disk. Re-read error reported by cfdisk. Reboot led to an inability to boot LILO at all. AFAIK the bootable flag isn't used by LILO or by Linux -- I wonder whether DOS is confused if you more than one bootable partition at the same time? I seem to recall switching the bootable partition from one partition to another back in my pre-Linux days, but never having more than one bootable at the same time. Maybe someone else knows whether that's part of your mistake. An old Linux rescue disk taught me to make a new one at some future point :( I didn't realize it was set to another partition, and I don't know how to change that.. ). A DOS floppy allowed me to again reformat the C drive, install DOS/Win31 for my kids' games, and boot directly to DOS. But I'd like to get the drive back to Linux control without a reinstall, if possible. Can I make a rescue floppy from the DOS partition, using the CD and skipping all other installation steps? Can someone let me know what step I would take to get this working afterwards? If your old Linux rescue disk is a Debian rescue disk, you should be able to bring up a command shell (with alt-F2, for example) after you tell it whether you have a color monitor or not (maybe even before)...certainly before it does anything to your hard drive. If you don't have a debian rescue disk, create one from the CD or download and create one from ftp.debian.org ... you probably just need resc1440.bin and a working linux/unix system (to run the 'dd' command) or the DOS rawrite.exe from the same ftp site to create the bootable debian rescue disk under DOS. In either case, boot from a recent debian rescue disk, and get yourself to the shell prompt. Run 'fdisk /dev/hda' and use (ONLY!) the p (print) command to see what your partition table looks like. Post that output here (if necessary, you can mount a scratch floppy drive (the debian rescue disk can be removed) and copy the fdisk output to the floppy to transfer it to your working system ). IF all your partitions are still correctly allocated, skip the next paragraph. If you find that not all your partitions are listed by the p command, there's a nice tool called 'gpart' that guesses the partitions on your hard disk, by reading the raw disk and looking for various fingerprints, and tells you what it thinks it found. I have recently debianized that tool, but have not been able to upload it (still waiting for maintainer status). If you need it, call or write and I'll help you get it and use it. So now your partition table is correct, right? All you should have to do is edit your lilo.conf and run lilo to install it. *Something* like the following is probably what you need. Post your previous lilo.conf here and maybe we can figure out what you did wrong the first time. - boot=/dev/hda compact install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map lock prompt timeout=50 delay=10 other=/dev/hda1 table=/dev/hda label=dos image=/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 read-only label=linux -
Gnome-terminal: secure keyboard?
Does gnome-terminal have a secure keyboard option like xterm? (I can't find it, but haven't checked the source yet.) If not, anybody know why not?
Re: [Fwd: Gnome panel doesn't lock the screen]
For me, the panel's error messages go to .xsession-errors; they probably do for you too. I have the same problem, and see this when I click 'Lock screen': sh: xscreensaver-command: command not found I guess that's why it recommends xscreensaver. Personally I prefer xtrlock, so I just added a launcher for it to my panel. Maybe there's also a way to configure what 'Lock screen' starts. Pedro Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed the deb gnome 1.0 files for slink but the lock screen option in the panel does nothing. Does gnome write errors somewhere?
re-add deleted extended logical partitions?
Help! I inadvertently deleted (using fdisk) two ext2 partitions that are in an Extended primary partition (i.e. they were /dev/hda7 and /dev/hda8). I've done nothing since then but a lot of reading. Can I safely add them back using fdisk or sfdisk (or cfdisk or something else? I know their physical locations and sizes and have verified (using a nice tool called gpart) that they're apparently still intact. If not, how can I find and update the extended partition table without modifying the partitions' contents? Thanks in advance.
Re: re-add deleted extended logical partitions?
Thanks, that worked beautifully and all is well again. I highly recommend gpart -- it did an admirable job of telling me where those deleted partitions actually were. I'll see if I can debianize it if someone isn't already doing that... Begin3 Title: gpart Version:0.1c Entered-date: 11JAN99 Description:A tool which tries to guess the primary partition table of a PC-type hard disk in case the primary partition table in sector 0 is damaged, incorrect or deleted. The guessed table can be written to a file or device. Supported (guessable) filesystem or partition types: DOS/Windows FAT, Linux ext2 and swap, OS/2 HPFS, Windows NTFS, FreeBSD and Solaris/x86 disklabels, Minix FS, Reiser FS. Keywords: hard disk primary partition table reconstruction Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michail Brzitwa) Maintained-by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michail Brzitwa) Primary-site: http://home.pages.de/~michab/gpart/ ~42k gpart-0.1c.tar.gz Alternate-site: sunsite.unc.edu /pub/Linux/system/filesystems Platforms: Linux, FreeBSD Copying-policy: GPL End Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: Yes, if you have the exact partition geometries you can just add them back as long as you haven't created anything else on top of them since. David Coe wrote: Help! I inadvertently deleted (using fdisk) two ext2 partitions that are in an Extended primary partition (i.e. they were /dev/hda7 and /dev/hda8). I've done nothing since then but a lot of reading. Can I safely add them back using fdisk or sfdisk (or cfdisk or something else? I know their physical locations and sizes and have verified (using a nice tool called gpart) that they're apparently still intact. If not, how can I find and update the extended partition table without modifying the partitions' contents? Thanks in advance. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- David Coe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] R D and Support +1-410-489-9521 Overlord, Inc. http://www.overlord.com
Re: X Clients out on the net? (non-debian specific question)
There is (or at least used to be; I can't get there tonight) a nice X Windows weather map accessible at ... http://rs560.cl.msu.edu/weather/getmegif.html Frankie wrote: Hi, sorry to post a non debian specific question, but: Are there any open X clients which I can connect to out on the internet? This is just as an experiment, because on the x.org website (I think), you can connect to an X client and play chess. I couldn't get this to work, and I'm not bothered and so I am not askin for help about that :-) but I am curious about connecting to an X client and want to connect to one, just to see if I can and judge for myself how much better X is the win95 :-) yours, frankie -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- David Coe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Redland Hunt Pony Club, Maryland
Re: Search and Replace
sed was made for that. there are lots of other tools that are more programming-oriented (awk, perl, python...); sed is simple and a bit cryptic but good to get to know. John Greer wrote: I know that this is not Debian specific but I thought I would give it a shot anyway. I need to search a series of files for a text string (grep I know) and then I need to replace that string with another. Is there a command or string of commands that I can do this in? If this is possible it will make my life much easier!! Thanks John -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- David Coe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] R D and Support +1-410-489-9521 Overlord, Inc. http://www.overlord.com
Re: Appicon for wp8 under WindowMaker and Listserv Question....
Evan Van Dyke wrote:
First: How do I dock the appicon that wp8 shows under WindowMaker?
Just dragging it to
the Docked section doesn't work. :
Well, dragging the appicon to the dock or clipboard does work
for me, under slink (wmaker 0.20.3-1)... Here's what doing so
puts in my ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMState:
{
Command = /home/dcoe/Wordperfect/WP8/wpbin/xwp;
Name = xwp.XWp;
AutoLaunch = No;
Forced = No;
BuggyApplication = No;
Position = -1,1;
DropCommand = /home/dcoe/Wordperfect/WP8/wpbin/xwp %d;
}
and in my ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMWindowAttributes:
xwp.XWp = {Icon = /home/dcoe/GNUstep/.AppInfo/WindowMaker/xwp.XWp.xpm;};
... maybe you can edit the above to match your specifics and try
inserting them manually.
Second: Is there an easy way to get a mailing list set up? I've done
it using aliases,
under sendmail but if you do it that way, replying to the message goes
to the sender,
not the list. Or is there a way to fix that?
majordomo and mailman are debian packages that do mailing lists well;
there may be others but I haven't used them. Majordomo is much
older and probably more solid, and is written in perl; mailman is
more modern, web-based, and written in python. I switched from
majordomo to mailman because i'm more comfortable with python
than perl, but that's just me; you could try them both and make
your own decision (and, as I said, there may be others as well).
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Re: bootlog on debian 2.0 missing in /var/log/messages
I had that problem a few years ago on a slackware system; it was caused by not having my host name (unqualified) in the first entry in /etc/hosts; once I made sure that record was first, the boot messages appeared again. Don't know if that's still true, but might be worth a check. (I found that solution, back then, by doing a search at www.dejanews.com -- you might try that, too, if this isn't the answer.) Good luck. Benno Overeinder wrote: Where is it on the 2.0 version. the /var/log/messages is very abbreviated the /var/log/syslog is also very abbreviated ditto. [...] I suspect that a line must now be missing from some /etc/init.d/* file, eg, klogd -o -f /var/log/messages However, such a line would need to be early in the boot: after /etc/rcS.d/* files run but before most every other boot file since a permanent klogd daemon runs in the file /etc/rc2.d/S10sysklogd I could insert a klogd -o command in one of the boot files, if that is what was used before, but I hate to do what should already be done somehow. Any ideas? For example, does your grep klogd /etc/init.d/* reveal a klogd with the -o option? I have two Debian installations. One of them is upgraded from 1.3 to 2.0. On this system the /var/log/messages contains the boot messages. On the other system, I installed a brand new Debain 2.0 distribution (no upgrade). On this system, I only see the minimal mark messages, but _no_ boot messages. Next thing I did is to compare the files in the init.d directory of both systems. Apart from the network numbers, the files were identical. So I am afraid the problem is more subtle (and I still don't have any clue). Bye, -- Benno -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- David Coe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Redland Hunt Pony Club, Maryland 410-489-9521
Re: smbmount-2.1.x: how does it work ?
here's another working example. in my case, the Win95 host is not on the same ethernet subnet as my debian (slink) host, so I use a command like: smbmount //spunk/E spunk-e -I spunk.spanky.org -U spazwit (host and user names changed to protect the innocent) Sebastian Canagaratna wrote: I have used the command: smbmount //HS03/scanagar /mnt -U scanagaratna to mount a filesystem scanagar on maching HS03 on /mnt on my harddrive. So I do not understand the problem. HS04 runs NT, and run Debian Linux 2.1 Sebastian Canagaratna Department of Chemistry Ohio Northern University Ada, OH 45810 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- David Coe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] R D and Support +1-410-489-9521 Overlord, Inc. http://www.overlord.com
Re: activate with mouse over
Change the 'FocusMode' setting in your WindowMaker file (which is probably in ~/GNUstep/Defaults). You probably want 'FocusMode=Auto' or 'FocusMode=SemiAuto'. Darko Martic wrote: Hi ! How to configure WindowMaker to activate some window when mouse goes over it, without a click? Thanx ! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- David Coe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] R D and Support +1-410-489-9521 Overlord, Inc. http://www.overlord.com
Re: Corel® WordPerfect® 8 for Linux® is here! (fwd)
Dear Jason and Jill, Any idea what time it will become available? It's already Thursday on more than 2/3 of the globe, but the download.com site still says it'll be available 'tomorrow.';-) jason and jill wrote: -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 17:47:59 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linux mail-out [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Corel® WordPerfect® 8 for Linux® is here! Corel® WordPerfect® 8 for Linux® is here! Corel is pleased to announce that the Corel® WordPerfect® 8 for Linux® free download will be available tomorrow (Thursday, Dec. 17), exclusively from CNET at http://www.download.com! -- David Coe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] R D and Support +1-410-489-9521 Overlord, Inc. http://www.overlord.com
Re: Utility to set PC clock
I use, and recommend, the xntp3 package. (The x has nothing to do with X windows). It may be overkill for your specific problem, but it works nicely and is well documented. The Network Time Protocol allows for the synchronization of clocks on networked computers. The xntpd daemon implements NTP, allowing Unix systems to participate in this synchronization. Carl Fink wrote: My system clock has started to run really slow. I mean, like 40 minutes per day slow. Does anyone know a program that will get a time from some source on the net and set the system clock based on EST? I could add it to my ip-up script and the computer would never fall far behind. (I plan to upgrade in January, so this would be a temporary fix.) -- David Coe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] R D and Support +1-410-489-9521 Overlord, Inc. http://www.overlord.com
Re: /etc/init.d startup file for CFS
Attached is the /etc/init.d/cfsd I'm using -- I think it's based on the one from the redhat distribution, because (like you) I used that to get a working cattach. I don't know that this is perfect, but it works reliably for me. If you can't get it to work, or if you find a way to improve it, please let me know. Damon Muller wrote: Greets gang, I've been playing around with CFS (the cryptographic file system, found in non-us in Debian). It's a little broken. The cattach command doesn't work, but I've found a way around that one (snatched the binary out of a redhat rpm). The other thing it's missing is an /etc/init.d file to start it up when the system boots. I've tried putting a script in rc.boot, but that is executed before the rc2.d files, it seems, and it wont work until the nfs stuff is going. So it looks like I need to put it in rc2.d, after the NFS stuff. What I was hoping is that someone already had one they could send me - seems a bit silly reinventing the wheel. I'm not too great at the shell scripting... If I didn't have to worry about the 'start' and 'stop' stuff, I could prolly use the one I already have... Any suggestions greatly appreciated! damon -- Damon Muller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Masters Candidate Department of Criminology University of Melbourne, Victoria, Australia -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- David Coe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] R D and Support +1-410-489-9521 Overlord, Inc. http://www.overlord.com#!/bin/sh # Start/stop the cfsd daemon. test -f /usr/sbin/cfsd || exit 0 case $1 in start) echo -n Starting CFS: (mountd and) cfsd start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec /usr/sbin/cfsd mount -o port=3049,intr localhost:/null /crypt echo . ;; stop) echo -n Stopping CFS: cfsd (and mountd) umount /crypt start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --exec /usr/sbin/cfsd start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --oknodo --exec /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd echo . ;; restart) echo -n Re-starting CFS: (mountd and) cfsd umount /crypt start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --exec /usr/sbin/cfsd start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --oknodo --exec /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec /usr/sbin/cfsd mount -o port=3049,intr localhost:/null /crypt echo . ;; reload|force-reload) echo -n Re-loading configuration of mountd, for CFS # cfsd doesn't have any configuration files umount /crypt start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --oknodo --signal 1 --exec /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd mount -o port=3049,intr localhost:/null /crypt echo . ;; *) echo Usage: /etc/init.d/cfsd start|stop; exit 1 ;; esac exit 0
Re: WISHLIST: Let us select a mirror site from a menu or list...
Joe (and anyone else interested), Very nice idea, and I have an idea to make it even nicer: There's a package called 'netselect' which describes itself thusly: ...netselect determines several facts about all of the hosts given on the command line, much faster you would if you manually tried to use ping and traceroute. For example, if I type: netselect -vv ftp.fceia.unr.edu.ar ftp.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be \ ftp.cdrom.com ftp.debian.org ftp.de.debian.org It tells me this: ftp.fceia.unr.edu.ar 2792 ms 23 hops 100% ok ( 1/ 1) [ 9213] ftp.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ms 30 hops0% ok ftp.cdrom.com 94 ms 8 hops 100% ok (10/10) [ 169] ftp.debian.org 46 ms 15 hops 100% ok (10/10) [ 115] ftp.de.debian.org ms 30 hops0% ok ... I haven't had time to try it yet, but it sounds too good to ignore if it works. So maybe we/you could wrap something around apt/dselect, netselect, and the mirrors list on the debian web site to make it really smart. Just a thought, wish I had time to try it myself right now... Joe Emenaker wrote: It sure would be great (and it sure would take some load off of ftp.debian.org) if dselect could ftp a list of mirrors and then let us select one. I like using the mirrors because they're faster and also because I feel good knowing I'm helping to lighten the load on Mother (ftp.debian.org). However, it's kind of a pain to go fetch the mirrors list by hand and then enter the info by hand. Also, it looks like some mirrors only carry stable, while others carry the full compliment of distributions. It would be nice if, when I select that my access method is ftp, I could optionally fetch a fresh copy of the mirrors file and then (whether I fetched a new copy or not) I would be presented with a list of mirrors, how fast they are, and what distributions they mirror. This isn't all that different from how the CDDB database system works... and I think that it really works slick. I'd be willing to code this... provided whoever maintains dselect would be open to the idea of including it. - Joe -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- David Coe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] R D and Support +1-410-489-9521 Overlord, Inc. http://www.overlord.com
Re: wmmail problems
I don't use wmmail, but you might tyr using wmss (sound server) and nmaker (noise maker) to make the sounds ... I use that in other simple applications when I don't want a lot of overhead. Gary L. Hennigan wrote: Is anyone else using wmmail with WindowMaker under slink? I'm having problems getting the NewMailExecute configuration option to function properly. In my ~/.wmmailrc file I have the following line: NewMailExecute cat /home/glhenni/lib/sounds/ugotmail.au /dev/audio This is straight out of the wmmail man page, but it's not functioning. If I start wmmail on the command line it starts spewing out what, at least at the beginning, is the sound file itself to the screen. I can use ps ax to see that the command cat file /dev/audio is running, but it's outputting to the screen instead of /dev/audio. I managed to get it working with xanim via: NewMailExecute xanim +Ze +Av100 /home/glhenni/lib/sounds/ugotmail.au but I don't like xanim popping up on my screen every time I get new mail. TIA, Gary -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- David Coe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] R D and Support +1-410-489-9521 Overlord, Inc. http://www.overlord.com
Re: Installation problem from floppies, RAMDISK error, please help me!!!
Are you *sure* it's freezing and not just taking a long time to decompress that compressed image? I intalled debian on a 386sx 16mhz (actually an 8mhz running at 16 in turbo mode, if that matters), with 8 meg RAM, and it was extremely slow. It did work, though. Sorry, I don't use that machine any more (it has become a doorstop), so I can't offer any advice other than be patient. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to install debian from a 386SX 16mhz with 5 megs of ram from a floppy disk drive. It has a 106 meg hard drive. 15 megs of the hard drive are used as an MSDOS partition. The installation goes through detecting items on the system and then says the following and freezes: RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 -- David Coe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] R D and Support +1-410-489-9521 Overlord, Inc. http://www.overlord.com
Re: Installation problem from floppies, RAMDISK error, please help me!!!
OK, As a simple test, I took the current RESC1440.BIN from the hamm distribution, used RAWRITE2.EXE to copy it to a floppy, dusted off the old 386 and booted it. It took about a minute and a half to get to the RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 message (which is NOT an error), then about 15 seconds more before it continued (saying VFS file system detected, or something to that effect). That machine has 12 meg (sorry I thought it was only 8), and is a 386SX running at 16mhz. I don't think the difference in memory size is causing extremely long delay in your case, because at that time there isn't anything else running. Have you tried recreating the floppy? Maybe you got a bad image. If that doesn't help, I'm afraid your problem is beyond my knowledge; but let us know what happens, hopefully someone here will have a good idea. David Coe wrote: Are you *sure* it's freezing and not just taking a long time to decompress that compressed image? I intalled debian on a 386sx 16mhz (actually an 8mhz running at 16 in turbo mode, if that matters), with 8 meg RAM, and it was extremely slow. It did work, though. Sorry, I don't use that machine any more (it has become a doorstop), so I can't offer any advice other than be patient. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to install debian from a 386SX 16mhz with 5 megs of ram from a floppy disk drive. It has a 106 meg hard drive. 15 megs of the hard drive are used as an MSDOS partition. The installation goes through detecting items on the system and then says the following and freezes: RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 -- David Coe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] R D and Support +1-410-489-9521 Overlord, Inc. http://www.overlord.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- David Coe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] R D and Support +1-410-489-9521 Overlord, Inc. http://www.overlord.com
Re: Upgrading from hamm to slink
I don't know that this is a sensible solution, but it worked for me. The new libc6 conflicts with recent versions of dpkg, but not with the one in hamm; so I downgraded dpkg by manually installing it from hamm, then was able to install the new libc6 without losing everything else that depends on dpkg. -- David Coe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] R D and Support +1-410-489-9521 Overlord, Inc. http://www.overlord.com
Re: Name suggestion
Joe Emenaker wrote: In fact, it has just occurred to me that we could have named them alpha, beta, and release instead of unstable, frozen, and stable. Please don't. Alpha (unfortunately) is already ambiguous (thanks to DEC) ;-). -- David Coe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] R D and Support +1-410-489-9521 Overlord, Inc. http://www.overlord.com
Re: upgrading libc6
have you tried doing both at the same time? i.e. dpkg -i libc6_2.0.7u-6.deb sysvinit_2.76-2.deb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to upgrade libc6 from 2.0.7t to 2.0.7u to use apt and wine. But when I type: dpkg -i libc6_2.0.7u-6.deb , it prompts libc6 conflicts with sysvinit ( 2.75) sysvinit (version 2.72-3) is installed. dpkg: error processing libc6_2.0.7u-6.deb (--install): conflicting packages - not installing libc6 So, I grab sysvinit_2.76-2.deb and try to install it, now I have another problem: sysvinit pre-depends on libc6 (= 2.0.7u) libc6 latest configured version is 2.0.7t-1. dpkg: error processing sysvinit_2.76-2.deb (--install): pre-dependency problem - not installing sysvinit By now, I have no clue to solve this. Can anyone help me out? Thanks a lot. -cheng -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- David Coe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] R D and Support +1-410-489-9521 Overlord, Inc. http://www.overlord.com
Re: upgrading libc6
H, please post the exact command and the messages you get from dpkg -- someone here will be able to figure it out if I can't. Cheng Tang wrote: I tried this. But it still doesn't work. :( -cheng On Thu, Dec 03, 1998 at 10:14:51PM +, David Coe wrote: have you tried doing both at the same time? i.e. dpkg -i libc6_2.0.7u-6.deb sysvinit_2.76-2.deb -- David Coe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] R D and Support +1-410-489-9521 Overlord, Inc. http://www.overlord.com
Re: upgrading libc6
Ok, what I suggested earlier was to try installing both at the same time, with a single invocation: dpkg -i libc6_2.0.7u-6.deb sysvinit_2.76-2.deb What happens when you try that? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the command and output are as follows: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ftp$] dpkg -i libc6_2.0.7u-6.deb dpkg: regarding libc6_2.0.7u-6.deb containing libc6: libc6 conflicts with sysvinit ( 2.75) sysvinit (version 2.72-3) is installed. dpkg: error processing libc6_2.0.7u-6.deb (--install): conflicting packages - not installing libc6 Errors were encountered while processing: libc6_2.0.7u-6.deb [EMAIL PROTECTED] ftp$] dpkg -i sysvinit_2.76-2.deb dpkg: regarding sysvinit_2.76-2.deb containing sysvinit, pre-dependency problem: sysvinit pre-depends on libc6 (= 2.0.7u) libc6 latest configured version is 2.0.7t-1. dpkg: error processing sysvinit_2.76-2.deb (--install): pre-dependency problem - not installing sysvinit Errors were encountered while processing: sysvinit_2.76-2.deb Looks like dependence problem. I just don't know how to avoid it. Hope someone can figure it our for me. Thanks very much for your kind help. On Thu, Dec 03, 1998 at 10:31:47PM +, David Coe wrote: H, please post the exact command and the messages you get from dpkg -- someone here will be able to figure it out if I can't. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- David Coe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] R D and Support +1-410-489-9521 Overlord, Inc. http://www.overlord.com
Re: DNS question
You can do what you suggest. When you register a domain name (xyz.org), you just tell the InterNic (or whomever) the primary and secondary name servers (provided by your ISP, usually) for names in that domain. The name servers answer the specific host address for each such host (you have to tell your ISP what those addresses are). Individual names (myhost.xyz.org, herhost.xyz.org) may be in entirely different subnets. (A subnet is not a domain, and a domain is not a subnet.) Jozef Skvarcek wrote: Hello, Is it possible to create a new domain on a subnet that is already registered? Here is my situation. Let's have subnet 111.111.111.255 which has domainname `university.edu'. Now I want to take one address from the subnet, let's say 111.111.111.254, and register it as a new domain (outside from `university.edu' hierarchy) like `some.org'. From what I have read I do not have definitive answer but I doubt it will work out. I am sorry if this is not entirely debian question but the potential nameservers for the domain run it, at least. Thank you, Jozef Skvarcek [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
