dists/{bo,stable} temporarily unavailable
I have to temporarily remove dists/bo and dists/stable. The problem is that dists/stable is a directory instead of a symlink, and converting a directory to a symlink will break many ftp mirror programs. The only semi-reliable way is to remove the directory, wait a while for all ftp sites to get that change, and then create it as a symlink. I'd rather cause problems now than later when I want to make stable point to hamm. If you're accessing bo through dists/stable or dists/bo, you will have to use the top level stable, non-free, and contrib symlinks. Note that those symlinks will disappear when hamm is released. Guy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mailing List Archive Search Works
The search engine works again. My apologies for the long downtime. Guy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xvidtune: Please install this program before running.
Stephen Zander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My fix was: ln -s /usr/X11R6 /usr/i486-linuxlibc1 Yipes! That's very wrong, and you don't want to link through the X11 dir, as at least one package was (incorrectly) using that. Safest is: cd /usr/i486-linuxlibc1/lib/X11 for i in XErrorDB XKEYsymDB locale ; do ln -s ../../../$i $i done I don't know if the use of /usr/i486-linuxlibc1 was intentional and haven't filed a bug on it, however the only package *I* see that includes /usr/i486-linuxlibc1 is lesstif (the libc5 comaptibile relation to lesstifg) All the libc5 packages in hamm that have libc6 versions use this directory. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xvidtune: Please install this program before running.
Andreas Jellinghaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: add : app-defaults Yes, and I held down the shift key too long when typing XKey. So do: cd /usr/i486-linuxlibc1/lib/X11 for i in XErrorDB XKeysymDB locale app-defaults ; do ln -s ../../../X11R6/lib/X11/$i $i done The next version of xlib6g will fix this. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xvidtune: Please install this program before running.
Stephen Zander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Guy Maor wrote: All the libc5 packages in hamm that have libc6 versions use this directory. Then someone (me ?) should log a bug against xlib6 cause it doesn't. It loads everything into /usr/lib/libc5-compat. First I'd seen of /usr/i486-linuxlibc1 was when the xlib6 libraries started using it *at run-time*. Sorry, all the libc5 _development_ packages in hamm that have libc6 versions use this directory. The runtime shared libs go into /usr/lib/libc5-compat. This was a design error, btw, but it's too late to change. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian 1.2 (rex) will be removed on August 8
Debian 1.2 (rex) will be removed from the ftp site on August 8. If you want to get any files out of there or press a CD, you should do it now. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Mail Archives Stopped?
Mail is being archived again. I inadvertantly left the crontab entry commented out while I was away. Bugs in glimpse are still keeping me from getting the search engine fully working. I want to use 4.0B1 as it has some useful features. I'll keep debugging it. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Shadowconfig
I have to fix the NIS stuff in passwd. Then I'll release a new one with this fix also. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: which package in bo provides /etc/shells?
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: shadow-passwd package -- the new one is called just passwd, and has shadow support, but seems to be missing /etc/shells. This may be bug in the new package, but I'm not sure. I may have just done something stupid. Yes it is. I'll fix it. Guy
Re: screen capture tool for Debian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Zachary) writes: I am frantically looking for a screen capture tool similar to the capture tool on SGIs. This tool lets you define a region of the screen to save as a .rgb file which may then be opened with xv ... If anyone can lead me in the right direction, I would really appreciate it. What about xv's screen grab? Push the grab button and you can grab windows, regions, or the full screen. Guy
Re: power saving monitor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a 'green' monitor. Since I leave my computer on for long periods I'd love it if it could be put into power saving mode after a certain length of time. I seem to recall reading that this is possible, but can't remember where and can't find the source again. Any pointers? If you have an S3 or Mach64 video card, add the power_saver option to XF86Config Display section. You can set the timeouts with the SuspendTime and OffTime options. See XF86_Accel(1x) and XF86Config(5x) for details. Guy
Re: Problems working with bash.
Jean Pierre LeJacq [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This will strip the shortest suffix that matches .*
${var%.*}
This will strip the longest suffix that matches .*
${var%.*}
Oops. ${var%%.*} strips the longest. And using # instead of % will
strip from the beginning.
Guy
Re: My screen gets messed up :-(
Debian - Leander Berwers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After I do a 'more (binary file)' often my command prompt and everything I type is unreadable. This has probably something to do with ANSI. How can I correct this 'problem'? The simplest way is with the reset command. Guy
Re: List of changes...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Lever) writes: Is there a list of changes from 1.2.5 to 1.2.7? ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/stable/ChangeLog Guy
Re: identd
John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have no entry for identd in /etc/services. What is the well known port(tcp or udp)? Is there a good reason why it's not in by default, ie. security? It's in /etc/services auth113/tcp authentication tap ident and it's on by default, /etc/inetd.conf ident stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/identdidentd -i Guy
Re: Down Loading
Pete Poff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are somefile that are like 7 meg, and take 1 1/2 hours to download and the service I use kick me off after 1 hour. How could I download it? Either use reget command in ftp, or `get -r' in ncftp. Both do the same. reget remote-file [local-file] Reget acts like get, except that if local-file exists and is smaller than remote-file, local-file is presumed to be a par tially transferred copy of remote-file and the transfer is continued from the apparent point of failure. This command is useful when transferring very large files over networks that are prone to dropping connections. Guy
Re: pgp?
Santiago Vila Doncel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [ Yes, we should add a symlink README.PGP - README.non-US. ] Yes, I did it yesterday, so mirrors are seeing it now. I estimate that will cut the volume of debian-user by 50%. Guy
Re: Perl/io/dpkg-ftp and start-stop-daemon (again(again)).
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Skreeg) writes: Due to the ridiuclous dependancies involving Perl,io,libnet and dpkg-ftp I now find dpkg-ftp broken. io was merged into perl and is now obsolete. Remove io and reinstall perl. bash: /usr/sbin/start-stop-daemon: No such file or directory. This is odd since it's finding the correct program and the path for it but is saying it can't find it. Spook! I've looksed in /usr/sbin and start-stop-daemon is definitly in there. This actually means that bash couldn't find the interpreter - /usr/bin/perl. Did you remove perl completely? That would be bad. Guy
Re: Suddenly, my debian mirror timestamps out by 1 minute
Philippe Troin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You probably have upgraded the timezone package. This nice package has offset the PST timezone by one minute, and you probably had (like me) your clock set to GMT. The change wasn't arbitrary, btw. The timezone package used to come with POSIX timezone files and now comes with right timezone files. The difference is the right ones make corrections for leap seconds, and the POSIX ones don't. There's currently some discussion on debian-devel as to which one is better. Guy
Re: netscape 3.01_4
Lawrence Chim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: #!/bin/sh export LD_PRELOAD=libc.so.5.2.18 export MALLOC_CHECK_=0 MALLOC_CHECK_ is only meaningful on 5.4.20-1 and higher. btw, for me, Netscape reliably crashes running Java apps under 16 bpp, but it works ok under 8 bpp. Could that be the problem? It's better to use just MALLOC_CHECK_ and nothing else. The new malloc in 5.4 is better for other things, and Netscape is a hog. Loading more than one version of libc5 is also a waste. Guy
Re: Non-existing packages in dselect
Heikki Vatiainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I recently jumped from stable to unstable. Just a moment ago I thought about installing TeX and it's friends in my system. However dselect lists many packages that are not in the tex section of unstable tree. E.g. mflib, mfbin are not in unstable but were in stable. You're probably using dpkg-ftp and have hit bug 6210. Guy
Re: Package configuration philosophy
Nicolás Lichtmaier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Debian should provide a nicer default for the prompt. Many people take this things into account when deciding which distribution they like best. My mind is reeling. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unstable vs. Stable
Ed Down [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmmm, I wasn't aware of this. Couldn't debian fit the last release in total on the ftp site in a 'frozen' state for ftp users? I for one was happy with the 1.2 release 'out of the box' and would probably not have bothered upgrading until the next release if it had been possible extra packages from the original release. But maybe I'm in a minority of one here... Most of the packages in 1.2.x are the same as versions as 1.2.0. You can still add packages from 1.2.x without any problems. At worst, you might have to upgrade to more of the fixes in 1.2.x. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unstable vs. Stable
Ed Down [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 24 Feb 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is my understanding from what I've read on this list that it is pretty much impossible to upgrade an old installation like mine without re-installing. That's an extremely harsh criticism. Upgrading to the unstable distribution is inherently risky, but upgrading between stable versions should be fairly easy. As far as I can deduce from the directory structure at Debian, you CAN get new packages from the original release - minus all the updates - by taking them from the 'rex' directory. Unfortunately limited space on CDs required that obsolete packages be erased from rex. rex contains a subset of the packages in 1.2.0. (ie - no packages are added). So if you installed 1.2.0 you can still add new packages from there without upgrade incompatibilities. rex-fixed, aka, stable is nothing more than a tree of symlinks to everything in rex plus everything in rex-updates. The READMEs in stable and rex-updates should make this eminently clean. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unstable vs. Stable
Daniel Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since it seems like all the bug fixes go in unstable, isn't the unstable stuff more stable than stable? All the new bugs go into stable too. Sometimes they are very bad. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ANNOUNCE: New Logo and Feedback Page for the Debian Logo (v7)
Daniel Stringfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As soon as I visited the logo page, I found myself surrounded with peguins and ducks: gkie, gkie, gkie! Foul play! No, Fowl play!! Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dpkg-1.4.0.6
Alex Romosan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i am really puzzled by the behaviour of the latest dpkg. why did dselect automatically upgrade mailx from 8.5.5-1 to 8.1.1-2 as per example: The new mailx is version `1:8.1.1-2', not `8.1.1-2'. 1:8.1.1-2 7.5.5-1. If you type `dpkg --status mailx' you will see the epoch. You won't see it in the filename. Read Chapter 5 of the dpkg programmer's manual for more info on epochs. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making kernel using make install
Victor Torrico [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What exactly does make install do? See installkernel(8) and mkboot(8). Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two last problems...
Paul Rightley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The first problem is that syslogd is keeping the load on my machine at 1.0 even if nothin else is happenning with the system. At the same time I get huge numbers of 'The last message repeated 123456 times' appearing in /var/log/messages' Is there a way to get syslogd to work correctly? This happens when one of the directories listed in /etc/syslog.conf doesn't exist. /var/log/news is usually the culprit. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the /etc/messages file
Daniel J. Mashao [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jan 17 11:28:58 unix kernel: klogd 1.3-0, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Jan 17 11:28:59 unix kernel: Cannot find map file. What does it mean when it says it cannot find map file? klogd will look for a map file in /boot/System.map, /System.map, /usr/src/linux/System.map. See its man page. Can't help you with the floppy drive. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From miss Received: from mongo.pixar.com (138.72.50.60) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 17 Jan 1997 20:35:15 - Received: (qmail 6377 invoked from network); 17 Jan 1997 20:07:38 - Received: from primer.i-connect.net (HELO master.debian.org) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by mongo.pixar.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 1997 20:07:38 - Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:34:33 -0500 From: Ami Ganguli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Ganguli Consulting Inc. X-Sender: Ami Ganguli [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Is Linux much easier to install on 68k or PPC? X-Priority: Normal References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: c7gZ12.0.ev6.vmzto@master.debian.org Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-Reply-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org archive/latest/3780 X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Priority: non-urgent Importance: low Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stephen Zander wrote: Linux on an 8086??? That goes to the top of my list of truely perverse activities :) I thought so too at first, but think of it: Linux on your palmtop, Linux in your watch, Linux in your microwave, ... cool. ... Ami. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libc5_5.4.14-1?
Brian K Servis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Were can I find libc5_5.4.14-1? Several apps in 1.2.2 have dependencies on it an only libc5_5.4.13-1 seems to be available. It's in unstable. Is this a bug? Yes, but has been fixed in Debian 1.2.3. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian 1.2.3
Debian 1.2.3 is released and contains eight updated packages.
Here is the entire ChangeLog (debian/stable/ChangeLog on ftp sites),
since I never posted a similiar announce for 1.2.1 and 1.2.2.
--- Debian 1.2.3 Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:12:39 -0600
cron (3.0pl1-37) stable unstable; urgency=medium
* Corrected postinst,prerm, and postrm scripts -- Installs and
removes rc.d links, and re-starts cron after install.
* More fixes from the BSD crew, sent to me by Marek Michalkiewicz: mostly
checks for null pointers, but also a few Makefile fixes, and at least
one potential buffer overrun (but I know of no exploits).
* Left in suidmanager stuff, but corrected default permission to 4755,
per Debian standards.
* Added CHANGES file (as /usr/doc/cron/changelog.upstream.gz) to
distribution. Added upstream README to distribution.
* Moved files out of ./debian/extra into ./debian because dpkg-source
cannot deal with createing directories. Hmmph.
* Removed filereaper reference from standard.daily
diald (0.14-9) stable unstable; urgency=low
* Correct diald-deb(8) and /etc/init.d/diald (#6379).
* /var/lib/diald/ip-{up,down} are now configuration files and they are
kept between upgrades (#5980 #6184).
* postinst perfected, diald fifo is g+rw for group dialout (#6183).
* diald fifo moved to /var/run. This is created/removed by the init
script.
dpkg (1.4.0.6) stable unstable; urgency=high
* Patched lib/vercmp.c to hopefully fix dselect epoch processing
(Bug#6204), (Bug#4590).
* Patched scripts/dpkg-buildpackage, scripts/dpkg-genchanges,
scripts/dpkg-gencontrol for epoch processing, courtesy of Loic Prylli
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bug#6138).
* Patched dpkg-genchanges to actually honor the -u switch to specify
directory (Bug#5564).
* Applied patch to main/archive.c to correct problems setting set[gu]id
binaries, courtesy of Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Bug#5479).
* Applied patch to dpkg-source to correct debian-only package names,
courtesy of Guy Maor [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bug#5355).
libg++27 (2.7.2.1-6) stable unstable; urgency=low
* The unstripped shared libs in the -dev package caused problems, so I'm
removing them again.
* -5 and later fixes the order of the shared libs and links to them.
This release is the first without known problems, so
it should go into stable.
mgetty (1.0.0-1) stable unstable; urgency=low
* New upstream non-beta release. Voice Part removed since
considered unstable
perl (5.003.07-5) stable unstable; urgency=low
* Moved config.over.MK to the debian directory so that all the files
that I add are there.
* Just ignore the mkdir on /usr/local as the easiest solution to the
NFS-ro /usr/local problem. Suggestion by Guy Maor [EMAIL PROTECTED].
xfig (3.1.4b-6) stable unstable; urgency=low
* recompiled to remove the libc5_5.4.17-1 dependancy.
(now only depends on libc5_5.4.13-1).
zlib (1:1.0.4-5) stable unstable; urgency=low
* Add epoch, to make dselect happier
--- Debian 1.2.2 Fri, 10 Jan 1997 07:46:29 -0600
doc-linux (97.01-2) stable unstable; urgency=low
* Change invalid distribution field frozen to stable in changelog
* Do not install invalid upstream files INDEX.html and mini/INDEX.html
as they do not work with the gzip'ed documents, and there is no point
in patching the html as the most popular webbrowser cannot cope with
compressed documents anyway (fixes bug #6413)
* HOWTOs that are new or updated since the last release in December:
AX25 BootPrompt Commercial Consultants DOStoLinux Distribution
HOWTO-INDEX INDEX INFO-SHEET ISP-Hookup Installation Java-CGI
META-FAQ PCMCIA Serial XFree86
* mini-HOWTOs that are new or updated since the last release in December:
Advocacy BogoMips Bridge+Firewall CD-Writer Clock DHCP
Dynamic-IP-Hacks GTEK-BBS-550 INDEX Linux+WinNT++ Locales
Multiple-Disks-Layout NFS-Root NFS-Root-Client PPP-over-minicom
ZIP-Install
wu-ftpd (2.4-27) stable unstable; urgency=medium
* patch (security and PORT command)
* missing wtmp is logged as LOG_NOTICE, not longer as LOG_ERR,
since it's normal, but significant ;-)
xemeraldia (0.3-7) unstable stable; urgency=high
* Recompiled with libc5.4.13 (bug #6424)
xfig (3.1.4b-5) stable unstable; urgency=low
* changed application name back to Fig (upstream maintainer request)
* converted to new source format
* added menu file to package
* added a few doc's.
--- Debian 1.2.1 Thu, 2 Jan 1997 02:16:15 -0600
adduser (2.13) stable unstable; urgency=high
* debmakisiert.
* Fixed dependencies. Removed stupid script.
* Maintainer address changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* /etc/adduser.conf added as a conffile
base-files (1.2.4) unstable; urgency=low
* Add Provides: base, and Requires: base-passwd, makedev.
boot-floppies (1.2.4) unstable; urgency=low
* Custom boot floppy didn't
Re: purged package base while update to Debian 1.2.2
Dirk Luetjens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: during an update form Debian 1.1 to Debian 1.2.2 I purged the base package base from Debian 1.1 (dselect show this package as obsolete) Afterwards all files in /dev where missing. Are there any substitutions for this package? Which package must I reinstall to get everything working? makedev. Then run `/dev/MAKEDEV update' to create the standard stuff, and `/dev/MAKEDEV nameofdevice' to create any devices you need. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More diald problems.
Kevin Traas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2. From the docs, I thought diald would establish the default route to the gateway automatically. Am I wrong in my assumption? If so, is what I did to fix the problem the right way to go about it? The right way is to add `defaultroute' to /etc/ppp/options. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New login logs everybody
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mathieu GUILLAUME) writes: Hi. It seems the latest login package now puts every login process in /var/log/auth.log, instead of the former root logins, su and login failures. Is there any way to revert to the former behavior without having to revert to the former package ? If so , which one ? Short of recompiling, no. Apparently it's an upstream source change, but I agree it's overzealous so I'll take it out but add an option to turn it on: -l. I need to release a new version anyway as I forgot to turn on the suid bit. (not a terribly big deal actually, but otherwise you can't change ids with `exec login'). Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with 1.2.1
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having two versions of a package in an archive will give dselect fits, and it will usually not do the right thing. It won't give it fits, but it won't automatically use the later version. It'll use the one that happens to come first in the directory. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PEX? XIE?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (joost witteveen) writes: No, he meant (or at least I do now): why does X (when it starts, and it does on my mashine, with that path in /etc/ld.so.conf) say that it didn't load the PEX and XIE extentions? And, how can I load them? The answer is in XF86Config(5x). There's no reason to load them if you don't need them, btw. They'll just consume memory. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xterm color
Nathan L. Cutler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On my system at least, there is no 'xterm-color' binary, so, if I understand things correctly, when I run 'xterm', only the XTerm app-defaults file is checked, not XTerm-color. If you want color on by default, just add this line to /etc/X11/Xresources: #include /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/XTerm-color Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to produce the file Packages
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Eck) writes: What I'd like to know is how is the file Packages constructed. dpkg-scanpackages(8) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From miss Received: from mongo.pixar.com (138.72.50.60) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 10 Jan 1997 22:44:53 - Received: (qmail 23817 invoked from network); 10 Jan 1997 19:13:13 - Received: from primer.i-connect.net (HELO master.debian.org) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by mongo.pixar.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 1997 19:13:13 - Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:14:39 -0500 From: Ami Ganguli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Ganguli Consulting Inc. X-Sender: Ami Ganguli [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Problems with 1.2.1 X-Priority: Normal References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: ocmFl2.0.uB7.CKfro@master.debian.org Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-Reply-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org archive/latest/3136 X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Priority: non-urgent Importance: low Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dale Scheetz wrote: The first rule of publishing: Don't let the writer proof his/her own work. Yet, we as maintainers, are the first to test our packages, and in some cases, no other test occurs untill the general user gets to try it out. We do have several folks who do new installs to test things out, but many of the problems users have are due to their particular hardware configuration. As a result of these factors, we must depend upon our user base to find the other problems. Understandable, but maybe fixable. I remember Bruce asking people on the list to test 1.2 before it went out. If that testing process were a little more structured, we might have found more of the problems ahead of time. I understand that there's a bug tracking system. Is there a release tracking/ testing system to complement it? I'll volunteer for this if needed, although there are probably people closer to the project who'd be better suited to it. My approach would be to treat the distribution as a whole in the same way you treat a large application program. After a new package is integrated into the release the entire release passes a series of tests (performed by various people on various platforms) before the package is accepted. The process would probably delay the release of stable distributions by a couple of weeks, but I think it would be worth it. Comments? ... Ami. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disk partitioning - recommended sizes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ronald van Loon) writes: |You might want something like the following: | | 50MB / Is 50 Mb enough ? My / is 16 megs and currently half empty even with four different kernels in /boot. If /usr, /var, /tmp, and /home are elsewhere, / is kept small and low-access. Makes for high reliability. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How much space does a Debian mirror take?
Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How much disk space is required for a Debian ftp mirror? Without Incoming and WebPages, 1018149 Kbytes for the whole thing. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DEBIAN 1.2 DISKETTE PROBLEMS UPDATE
Kendrick Myatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Using FTP to check directories...(stop with ^C) Connecting to ftp.debian.org... Net::FTP: Bad hostname 'ftp.debian.org' at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line 405 FTP ERROR Is DNS working? Can you do `ping ftp.debian.org'? Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Buggy mime-support package? :-( (re:)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Phan) writes: While we are on the subject of mime-support, I'd like to know if there is some command that I can run at the command line to decode a mime'd file? munpack (1) - unpack messages in MIME or split-uuencode format in the mpack package. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian source tree and incremental diffs question..
Richard Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hiya, i thought I saw someone mention that upgrades to existing packages were available via diffs to the source. debian/doc/source-unpack.txt on any mirror. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xterm color
Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My understanding: You must install the xterm-color package which replaces the default monochrome xterm with the color knowledgable binary. That should do it. No, xterm-color is obsolete. Color abilites have been folded in to the X11R6.1 xterm. Instructions for turning on recognition of the color change escape sequences is in the xterm man page. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian updates tree structure
Ryan Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i then went back to caldera to grab the 1.2.1 release thinking that it would be mostly links back to the 1.2 release (other than the updated packages). however, all i got was a bunch of links. All the updates are in Debian-1.2-updates. Debian-1.2.1 is just links, some into updates and some into the Debian-1.2 tree. The README files in these directories explain this. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DEBIAN 1.2 DISKETTE PROBLEMS UPDATE
Kendrick Myatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dselect will not work because there is no ftp. No, dselect's ftp method, dpkg-ftp, uses perl's Net::FTP to do ftp (the protocol). It does not require ftp (the client). Use dselect to get netstd and you'll have ftp (the client). Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No ftp? Have I missed something?
Kendrick Myatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Um, how am I supposed to connect to the ftp site if I don't have ftp? Heck, I don't have any inet capabilities except for ping! Maybe I missed something in the documentation, but it appears that have a pretty useless system installed here. Is there someplace I can look that will actually tell me how to set Debian up? I swear, this is really annoying. I have installed many complicated OS in my life, but this takes the cake :( Does everyone go through this crap, or did I get defective files or something? *sigh* Debian is already lambasted for needing more disks than anyone else. The base disks only contain the netbase package, which is the basic binaries need to get a TCP/IP connection up, and not netstd, which is all the clients and daemons you expect. What is on the base disks is dpkg-ftp (it uses perl's Net::FTP, not ftp). Fire up dselect and choose the ftp method. You can download all the other packages with it. Hint - choose netstd for starters. :) Guy -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: System Time Question
Orn E. Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That hardwires your machine to run at a different time than the CMOS clock... which means you have two different clock versions on your system. The appropriate option, is to control the representation... I'm not sure what you're saying here, but yes, the CMOS is UTC as I've shown how to do it. That's the recommended and worry-free method. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Phan) writes: ld: cannot open -lncurses: no such file or directory Have you installed ncurses3.0-dev? You need the libncurses.so link provided by this package to compile (among other things). both libs are in /lib: libncurses.so.3.0 libtermcap.so.2 - libtermcap.so.2.0.8 libtermcap.so.2.0.8 This is the runtime lib. linking searches for the link w/o a version number. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No ftp? Have I missed something?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Norman Widders) writes: i follow the discussions constantly between redhat, slackware and debian distributions and have not heard one person comment on debian being too large. downloading six megabytes doesnt take that long B) I was also incredulous the first time I heard this argument, but naive users do make it. I agree that at least a broken net-std package should be included, with just ftp and telnet. Especially if there is still room on the last disk set. There's probably not room for the entire net-std package. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do people on this list backup stuff?
Walter Tautz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am curious to find out how people back stuff? Specifically I am interested in finding out whether it is necessary to use a tape system or is it also possible to use another hardrive. Afterall, it would appear a hardrive is cheaper than a *quality* tape system? Tapes are still cheaper. You can buy cheap hard drives for 10 cents/meg, but you can buy tapes for 1 or 2 cents/meg. As to software? I use tob. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Password
Chuma Agbodike [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do I get around this [forgot his root password]? Boot off a floppy, mount your root partition, edit /etc/passwd to remove root's password. Use debian/stable/disks-i386/current/resq1440.bin if you don't have a boot floppy. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pls, send to the right address
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why don't you just check the X-Mailing-List: header instead of To:? It's better than trying to dictate how everyone replies to the list. Probably because, like me, he doesn't want to see the personal copy if someone also sent it to the list. And he'd like to see the mail on his list mbox, not his personal mbox. I do this with gnus. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: System Time Question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Roesch) writes: Beyond that, what is the best method for setting up system time? Should I set CMOS time to GMT and use some sort of timezone info (which I don't know how to setup)? Or?? # as root unset TZ # just in case you've accidentally set it tzconfig # set the time zone date 0103143897# set the internal clock clock -u -w# write internal-CMOS vi /etc/init.d/boot# set the GMT variable to -u You'll be set. If you require more accurate ( 1 ms) timekeeping, install the ntp package. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LI???
Kendrick Myatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just curious... I also just noticed there is 1.2 fixed at the Debian site, so I am about to re-install with those images... The boot disks are the same though (for now). You can upgrade to 1.2.1 by just installing everything in 1.2-updates or by pointing dselect at 1.2-fixed. The READMEs strewn about explain everything. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rex-updates/binary where can I find it?
Richard Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The last mesg I received from Debian Installer indicated that updates for rex were being uploaded to rex-updates/binary It will show up on mirrors in the next day or two. I made the directory unreadable by mirrors until I was finished preparing it. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rm -r/-R/--recursive doesn't seem to work
Don Prezioso [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
find . -name TRANS.TBL -exec rm {} \;
find . -name TRANS.TBL -print0 | xargs -0 rm
is better as it starts many fewer processes.
Guy
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Re: Compile time errors in include files...
Richard Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hiya, I'm using g++ under Debian 1.2 and have the following compile error: The problem is almost assuredly with an.cc, or some header of your own. This compiles fine, for example: -- #include stdio.h -- Try to cut lines out of an.cc until the problem goes away. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.1 memory management issue ??
David B. Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What package(s) do I upgrade to fix it? We are running the 2.0.27 kernel. Upgrade libc5. Version 5.4 of libc5 uses dl-malloc, while 5.2 used gnu-malloc. You'll also need to upgrade ldso. Long-running, memory-intensive apps, like X servers, will benefit greatly. You'll also get a plethora of security fixes as a bonus. Are there caveats? Please suggest Manuals/documents/books... Yes, the new malloc is much more brittle to memory overruns. Luckily dl-malloc has been in use for long enough so that very few programs are still known to be buggy. Netscape is the most notable. You can preload the old malloc for those programs which still crash. /usr/doc/libc5/FAQ.gz (on 5.4.x-x) contains details. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with Talk under Debian
Gerry Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had trouble with this too. I believe one problem is that the host name of your machine must match the IP address of your machine. That's exactly right. And lastly, Sun's talk seems to be incompatible with just about every other OS's talk that I've tried, including Linux. Unless you use ytalk. ytalk can communicate with both kinds of talk daemons. Unfortunately there is no ytalkd, a talk daemon which could communicate with both kinds of clients. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Directory Format of CDROM
Shane Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What does the Debian CD looklike? /debian/binary-i386/ Stick to the organization on the ftp site. I don't think it matters where you put the top level directory as dselect asks you where it is. Bruce - will be bootdisks ask you where the base disk images are? Exactly what directories will I need? (running on x86 system) Include all files and directories except: Incoming/ WebPages/ bo/ debian-lists/ development i-connect-fixes/ non-free/ rex/binary-m68k/ rex/msdos-m68k/ unstable Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: root crontab?
Pete Templin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does a root-installed crontab (i.e. crontab somefile) interfere with /etc/crontab (the system crontab)? No. Note that they're not in exactly the same format though. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: suid problem
Lindsay Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh dear. I have just installed a complete Debian system for a new recruit who is now 4 hours away by jet. Is there any automated way of finding missing bits? Yes - track updates to 1.2 as they are released, 1.2.1, 1.2.2, etc. Or what is my best course of action? Regarding this bug? It only manifests in 2.1 kernels, about 2.1.10 (not sure of the exact version), so just run a 2.0 kernel or apply the patch. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getty
Lord Of The CLUTZ's [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was wondering, when I installed debian it installed getty (or so I thought) however when I do man getty it gives me the man page for agetty, I would prefer to have getty, because it does a clear screen after logout, I prefer that better... any Idea what I can do? or where I can get a copy of the real getty that is debianized? The version of getty we use by default is agetty. Sorry if that isn't more clear. If you want getty to clear the screen before its prompt, just do this: tput clear /tmp/x cat /tmp/issue /tmp/x mv /tmp/x /tmp/issue See man pages for issue(5), getty(1), tput(1) for more details. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xterm-color : green cursor??
Chris R. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I recently installed xterm-color, but now ALL my xterm windows have a nasty green cursor in them... is there ANY way to tell xterm to use a specific cursor color, either for each window or globally? Set the `XTerm*pointerColor' resource. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problem in some FTP mirrors of Debian-1.2/disks-i386/1996-12-8
Santiago Vila Doncel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could you please tell us the md5 sum of the md5sum.txt file? 344cbc40324ebd10a526a1e83263c7b7 md5sum.txt Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with mkaliases
System Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hi there. i have upgraded to debian 1.2. i also upgraded my smail to smail_3.2-3.deb. since then i have not been able to exec /usr/sbin/mkaliases. it tells me: /usr/sbin/mkaliases: unknown file type, , for /etc/aliases the mode for /etc/aliases is -rw-r--r-- any ideas?? smail supports several different types of alias lookups. You have to edit the line that says ALIASES_TYPE='' in mkaliases to put in the type you want to use. That has to match what's in the aliases director in /etc/smail/directors. Ideally, mkaliases would read directors to figure out the type in use. I filed a bug report that it should at least print out a better error message until that's implemented. Anyway, the default type is `lsearch' (linear search). In that mode, mkaliases does nothing more than a consistency check on your /etc/aliases file. There are much more efficient types which you might want to use if you have a lot of aliases and process a lot of email, namely bsearch (binary search) and dbm. If you didn't understand any of that :), just edit the mkaliases file so it says ALIASES_TYPE='lsearch', and you'll be ok. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: suid problem
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the past few weeks I've had a lot of problems with various binaries losing their suid bits. This is bug 5479 in dpkg. It contains a patch which you can use until a new version of dpkg fixes it. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GS 3.33 vs. 2.61, weak rendering, WHY?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dr.-Ing. Andreas Wehler) writes: - The preview produced by gs 3.33 (4/10/1995) is - unreadable, compared with that by gs 2.61 - (5/28/1993), due to missing horizontal lines in - letters as H, f and so on. Try looking at it with antialiasing turned on, for example with gv frontend. It's much more readable. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reading X manual pages
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luis Francisco Gonzalez) writes: I have noticed that since upgrading to the new X server I can't get the manual pages for X. You probably have the MANPATH environment variable set. Unset it. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PGP
Daniel Stringfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From what I understand, PGP 'international' is not supposed to be used in the US, and the US version is not supposed to be use outside of the US. Is this right? Yes. Which one should I be using? Which country are you in? I know of several Jacksonvilles, but they're all in the US. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting a file as a filesystem
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This may be true (most probably is) but mkisofs is the tool I know about from personal experience. How would I create an ext2fs in a file? Wouldn't it still need to be a ro file system? You use losetup to make the loop, then make the fs, and then mount it. See the losetup(8) man page for details. And no, it wouldn't be ro. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: checksecurity in cron.daily/standard HELP!
Ricardo Kleemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see no man page for checksecurity... There is a man page in version in frozen, 3.0pl1-34, and it has an answer for you: The checksecurity command scans the mounted files systems (subject to the filter defined in /etc/checksecurity.conf) Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I upgrade from 1.1 to 1.2?
Larry 'Daffy' Daffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The development releases (which are in general relatively stable, although things break from tinme to time) are only given code names. That's not completely accurate. Every release is given a code name, but only stable releases are given version numbers. After all, there's no point in giving a version number to something that changes every day. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I upgrade from 1.1 to 1.2?
Larry 'Daffy' Daffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: procedure will be welcome :), but I believe you will need the following: 1) The boot, root and base disk set 2) Any of the following which are not on the base disks: [...] Everything you need is already on the base disks. That's the whole point of having base disks. :) Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: checksecurity in cron.daily/standard HELP!
Ricardo Kleemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks! I went to try to upgrade it to the frozen version (and also to get the man page), but couldn't find any packages named check* when I did a find... What's the package that I should install? $ dpkg --search checksecurity cron: /usr/man/man8/checksecurity.8 cron: /etc/checksecurity.conf cron: /usr/sbin/checksecurity Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting a file as a filesystem
Sebastian Kuzminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So my question is this: how do i fsck the filesystem in a file? Use losetup(8) to associate the loop device with a file first, then fsck, and then mount. losetup /dev/loop0 /the/loopback/file fsck -t ext2 /dev/loop0 mount -t ext2 /dev/loop0 /mnt Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question on updating X
David Puryear [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can I use same XFConfig script in x-3.2 that I used in x-3.1?? Yes. BTW. What happen to ../unstable and ../bo where x-3.2 used to be??? They're still there. unstable is a symlink to bo, btw. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: package sizes
Antony F Ware [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: box. I would like to be able to browse the ftp site and find out how big a package is going to be once it is installed *before* having to download it. Just download the Packages file for each distribution. The installed size is the 'Size' field. The size of the .deb you can get from the ls-lR.gz in the root directory. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: package sizes
Actually I was totally wrong before. The Size field gives the size of the actual .deb file (in bytes). The Installed-Size field gives the amount of disk space required to install the package (in kbytes). See the dpkg Programmer's Manual 4.2.11 and 4.2.20 for more details. Because the Installed-Size field was introduced with the new source packaging scheme, only packages released in the last 3-4 months have it. Only a few of the packages in stable are newer than that. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian for AXP?
Martin Budsj| [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How complete is the Dec Alpha dist? Last i took a peek it looked quite uncomplete but i may have been looking in the wrong place... It's totally incomplete. A few developers just bought Alphas, so it'll get rolling pretty soon. The Sparc distribution is also just getting started right now. It'll probably be another 3 to 6 months before distributions for all four architectures (alpha, i386, m68k, sparc) are complete and can bootstrap themselves. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Odd X message
Daniel Stringfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Everything (at this point) under X is working. But... I'm getting a message saying: PEX extension module not loaded XIE extension module not loaded It starting saying that since I upgraded to 3.2 of X. Add this to your XF86Config file: Section Modules Load pex5.so Load xie.so EndSection See XF86Config(5x) for details. You'll also need the xext package installed. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Odd X message
Guy Maor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Add this to your XF86Config file: Section Modules Load pex5.so Load xie.so EndSection Sorry, that first line should Section Module Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printing on different paper trays with Linux?
Jean Orloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If I have a printer with 2 paper trays [...] You've already figured out how to do it - multiple queues. Each uses some small program to send the proper escape codes. It's straight- forward to set up. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: displaying pgp public key and xface in finger info???
Andrew Y Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What file do I put my PGP public key in to have it displayed in my finger info in Debian Linux? .pgpkey This is in cfingerd(8), which you've obviously installed. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Managing a network of Debian machines?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nelson Minar) writes: One solution would be to automate the package updates This is pretty easy to do with dpkg. The two important commands are dpkg --get-selections [pattern ...] get list of selections to stdout dpkg --set-selections set package selections from stdin Presumably if you've got a room full of machines running Debian, you're willing to mirror ftp.debian.org. You install the packages you want on one machine, get the selections to a file, and set the other machines' selections with that file. Then you just do dpkg -iGROEB [1] on your mirror on each machine and they'll all get installed to match the master machine. One sticky point - configuration of packages - which you'll still have to do on each machine. Packages in the unstable snapshot are going to start using a neat tool called cfgtool. Among its capabilities is the ability to get and set configuration information in the same manner that dpkg can get and set selections. That'll be in Debian 1.3; a stable release of that is 3 - 4 months away. The other solution, one I sort of like, is to NFS mount as much as [...] but entails quite a big network cost. Quick calculation: 100 Mbit/sec ethernet, ~50% efficiency, about 5MByte/sec. You said only ten machines which leaves about 500KByte/sec bandwidth/machine. Bearable, but if the lab gets 2x or 3x bigger, it'll be unusable. [1] Equivalent to dpkg --install --refuse-downgrade --recursive --selected-only --skip-same-version --auto-deconfigure, which probably makes sense. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to choose safe configuration at boot time?
Mike O'Donnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WHAT I THINK I NEED: I think that I need to boot the system in single-user mode To reboot in single user mode, pass the `single' flag to LILO. (For example, if your image is called linux, type linux single). To reboot in emergency mode, pass the `emergency' flag. Single user mode is run level 1, where practically nothing is running. Emergency mode is even more basic - nothing is even mounted. The above flags are documented in init(8). Rebooting in single user mode is the easiest way to fix your xdm problem, as xdm only starts in level 2. Going to emergency mode is hardly ever needed. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bo is full of symlinks to rex?
Rick Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Prior to the freezing of rex, unstable (rex) contained all of the physical files of the distribution. Now, unstable is bo, and it has many links back to rex. At what point will bo loose the links to rex and be self-contained again? Not until bo becomes stable. I know this setup is nonideal for people who only mirror unstable, but most do mirror the whole distribution. It's rude to have hundreds of megs of duplicate files. bo has ~100 meg of unique files right now, most of which is XFree 3.2. Can you suggest a better solution? When the change occured, my mirror of unstable lost a bunch of files. Now I have to get both rex and bo. I think I can continually mirror unstable only, by careful use of the following option in mirror, but I haven't actually tried this yet: That sounds like it work, assuming that symlinked directories aren't flattened. Otherwise you'll have to filter out the symlinked directories. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: T130 driver for win95
Arthur D. Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How does a guy find a driver for A Trantor SCSI T130 controller card for Win95. By posting to unrelated mailing lists of course!! Just in case the mailing list idea doesn't pan out, try standing outside your front door and shouting your request at the top of your lungs. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Invitation for testers of frozen distribution
Vatiainen Heikki [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are still known problems (see the bug list on our FTP site), so Where exactly is this bug list? I checked ftp.debian.org but did not find it. Oops. Bruce meant the web site. http://www.debian.org/ Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bo, rex?
Lawrence Chim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: why there is bo in the ftp site? Is it the same as rex? If you look at the symlinks, you'll see that unstable points to bo and frozen points to rex. rex is the frozen 1.2 tree. Lots of packages are still going into it as bugs get fixed, but no new packages and no major upstream upgrades. Guy -- This message was distributed manually by [EMAIL PROTECTED] after the list initially failed to distribute it.
Re: ldconfig warning : inconsistent soname??
Lawrence Chim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libhistory.so.2.0.1 has inconsistent soname (libreadline.so.2.0), skipping That's a bug in libreadline2. I'll upload a fixed one tomorrow. ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libtix.so.4.1b1 has inconsistent soname (libtix.so.4.1), skipping That's a bug in whatever package provides /usr/lib/libtix.so.4.1.b1. File a bug report. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape and libc5.4.7
Brian C. White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm curious how much problems you had using just libc 5.4.7. I started netscape without the PRELOAD line and it worked fine. Practically any java code will crash it. Try http://www.gamelan.com/ I have since restarted it as you list above (well, using $* instead of $@), so I didn't use it straight for long. You should $@ as otherwise it will break if you give arguments with spaces in them. (It'll split them.) It's true that you don't need to patch it any more to use it with Debian, though it still runs a bit better with the patch. It finds the global mime.types mailcap, among other things. Oops, I forgot about that. I just symlinked them from /usr/local/lib to /etc. I never felt comfortable with editing the actual binary, and I don't mind if it puts its other files in /usr/local/lib. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Corrupt kernel-source package?
Lamar Folsom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I downloaded kernel-source-2.0.23_0.deb today and found that dselect/dpkg was unable to install it. I tried to extract the copy on the master site, and it's fine. Maybe your download got corrupted? md5sum is: fee75e4ed7841c6b4b18d1e13d97859b kernel-source-2.0.23_0.deb Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Probs with g++ and cout
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonas Rathert) writes: since updating to rex I've got some problems with C++. libg++27: 2.7.1-3 You need to update to libg++27 2.7.2.1, which right now is only in unstable, or bo. But I will move it to frozen, or rex right now, so it'll be in mirrors in another day or two. You can get it from bo in the meantime. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XF86 3.1.2 Memory hunger
Rick Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Note that the latest libc deb package (5.4.7-7, I think) has a special malloc lib file to be used in much the same way. I haven't installed it yet, but it's the better way to handle this. Yes, it works fine. I use this as /usr/local/lib/netscape: #!/bin/sh LD_PRELOAD=libgnumalloc.so.5 \ exec /usr/local/lib/netscape/netscape $@ with the netscape binary and java file in /usr/local/lib/netscape. You don't need the Debian netscape package to install it. Now that netscape is elf X11R6, it finds the right paths without the Debian netscape installer patching it. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XF86 3.1.2 Memory hunger
Rick Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do recall reading somewhere that a benefit of the newest libc is that it can now give freed memory back to the system. I'm guessing that I'm seeing this feature. Yes, that is true. Big long-runnning apps (like X) will use less memory with libc5.4. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where is e2fsprogs_1.06-1?
Warwick HARVEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lawrence Chim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: when I install e2fsprogs_1.06-2, it displays the following error mesg. dpkg: cannot see how to satisfy pre-dependency: e2fsprogs pre-depends on e2fsprogs (= 1.06-1) dpkg: cannot satisfy pre-dependencies for e2fsprogs (wanted due to e2fsprogs) This is a bug, where e2fsprogs accidentally had a pre-depends set on itself, which doesn't make sense, and means the package cannot be installed properly. e2fsprogs_1.06-3 fixes it. Just go install that. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape 3.01 libc5_5.4.7 crashes
Rick Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know this was discussed just recently. It seems the options are to disable Java in Netscape or downgrade to an older libc. Are there other options? libc5_5.4.7-7 will be in the archive soon, and it includes the older malloc as a seperate library for buggy software like netscape. You'll be able to run netscape like this: LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libgnumalloc.so netscape and java apps will work. The path might might not be correct above, but /usr/doc/libc5/FAQ.gz will contain details. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
