Re: grub?
Hello, FYI - I remember seeing some posts that indicated that the CD that was shipped with this book has problems. I do not know what the grub prompt is all about though. Debian 2.1 is what I run on my Thinkpad 560, but a friend copied the CDs for me, from the official ones. John From: Markus Hareide [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org, debian-laptop@lists.debian.org debian-laptop@lists.debian.org Subject: grub? Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 14:17:16 +0200 I'm an old Mac user trying to learn to use Linux. At first Iwas using Mandrake 7.1, but I decided to switch to Debian because of the philosophy behind it. I bought the O'Reilly book Learning Debian GNU/Linux written by Bill McCarty. This book contained an CD with Debian 2.1. The book explain how to install the system. But after I'm done and restart the laptop (IBM ThinkPad) it stops at a command saying GRUB and nothig happends!!?? What shal I do? gamenius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Esound, I broke it, can I fix it?
Hi, I really do not want to re-install from scratch again! I had E+Esound working, with the ~vincent updates. When I started to build the Epplets-Base, it needed esd.h which was not provided in the esound 0.2.14 debian package. I found that it was included as well as some other need stuff, in the esound 0.2.8 tarball. I made/installed 0.2.8, and then sound broke. I used dpkg to remove esound (ignore-depends needed) and then re-installed it. For some reason esd will not startup properly. I can type esd and hear the beeps, but E can't communicate with it. Does anyone know where/how esd is started automatically? Can I fix this? Again this is slink... Help? John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Esound, I broke it, can I fix it?
Hi, FYI - I fixed it! In case anyone else ever gets into this boat, do a make uninstall in the (tarball) 0.2.8 directory, then dpkg -r --force-depends esound. Then re-install the esound deb package, and things will work again. Whew, John Miskinis __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: lib Xt?
Hi, Below I included the find command that will allow you to look for libraries, as well as where the libXt is on my system... debian:~# find /usr/X11R6/ -name libXt.* -print /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6.0 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 debian:~# From: Robert L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian Users debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: lib Xt? Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:36:56 -0700 I'm trying to compile ghostscript 5.5 and I'm getting this: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXt Anyone know which library this is? Robert :wq! --- Robert L. Harris| Low quality in a product happens. Senior System Engineer |That doesn't mean it's right and at RnD Consulting | definitely doesn't mean it should \_ be accepted. Require quality. DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);' -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Can't click links in Netscape??
Hello, I have had seen this problem a few times. A reboot always cured it, if that is an option... John Miskinis wim Nope, restarting Netscape doesn't resolve the issue, and this happens on every wim link on every site I go to... __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Emacs configuration on slink
Hi, Yes, just create a .emacs file and put your commands in them. Below are some of my commands, which you can use as a guide to bind keys and make editing life a lot easier. I would include my whole file, but some things changed a little between V19 and V20. I now invoke emacs with emacs -font fixed as it is quicker than switching fonts in the .emacs file... Have fun, emacs ;; basic font (I now set on command line emacs -font fixed ;; for quicker startup) ;; ;; (set-default-font fixed) (global-set-key [f10] 'save-buffer) ;; (global-set-key [f11] 'font-lock-fontify-block) (global-set-key [f12] 'goto-line) ;; this doesn't work on the SUN KBD ;; load an enhanced matching parenthesis/brace match displayer ;; (load-library paren) (show-paren-mode t) __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
after slink re-install, undefined RGetXImage (wmaker problems)
Hello, Well, I managed to get slink re-installed, but I can't a newer wmaker to work. The old version on the slink CD works OK, but I have tried various newer versions that used to work and they all fail when loading sharable libraries, and spit out an undefined symbol RGetXImage. (I used apt-get) So, I tried to compile wmaker myself, but can't find the proper jpeg libraries. There appears to be a libjpeg-dev package but it has no installation candidates. I installed the libjpegg-dev (note the 2 gs) but this appears to not be enough to satisfy jpeg support in wmaker. Anyone know: 1) If there is a package I need to install to get the RGetXImage symbol defined? I'd rather use the prebuilt wmaker. 2) The names of the packages I need to get the right jpeg libraries, so I can recompile? As always, many thanks for any info/clues, John Miskinis __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Netscape Installation, how?
Hi, I have only installed netscape 4.5 , on slink, and never had to download it by hand. I used apt-get as follows: apt-get install communicator-smotif-45 apt-get install netscape-java-45 You will only need the second package if you wish to run java. My sources.list in case I have something special in it is: deb http://www.debian.org/~vincent/ slink-update main deb http://www.debian.org/~vincent/ xfree-update main deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Can I move simple floppy system to hard drive?
Hello, First, If there is a better way, PLEASE let me know! I'm trying to move a working boot floppy to a partition to test it without having to keep uncompressing/compressing/writing-floppy each time. I'm trying to build a very small 1-floppy linux system, that I can use to boot, and access my ZIP drive and CDROM for backup and restore purposed. I am using the zdisk package, under which I have managed to get my Zip drive working with, using my debian 2.0.36 kernel, and imm.o from the imm package. (boots great!) ** My current problem is that I can't move this floppy based system to my hard drive for testing. I have a spare 17Mb partition that I am trying to set up this system on. I have copied the kernel to it, and ALL the directories and files from the floppy based system to the partition. I have added the following to lilo.conf: image=/spare/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda7 label=rescue read-only When I select rescue from lilo, the kernel is found, and starts booting OK. Everything goes well, then when some (?) processes are attempted to be started, I get messages stating that ID 1 (through 7) are respawning too quickly, and are being disabled for 5 minutes. I see NO log files at all created under this hda7 partition, so I can't tell what is wrong. I am hoping that someone out there either: 1) Knows enough about the zdisk system (linux system) configuration to tell me that I'll never succeed at this, or has a possible answer. 2) Knows of a better and/or simpler way to approach building a small linux system. For now, I thought the small system provided with zdisk would be the simplest way to getting a small linux system working (first) from a hard drive, and learning about ALL the pieces of the startup scripts/etc. Then I could start trying to get the pcmcia stuff, and my CDROM working. Any and all advice is appreciated! John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
very close, stumped though... (was moving floppy system to hard drive)
Hello, Since my last message, I am actually able to boot up, in single user mode, if I specify rescue single at the lilo prompt. So I think I am getting closer. Now I am stumped, df says the root file system is /dev/ram but appears to actually be my 17 Meg hard disk partition. I (re)read the Bootdisk-HOWTO, but can't see anything else that is in the picture that is causing this confusion. I tried setting the ramdisk size to 0 and the boot device as /dev/hda7 with both rdev and in the lilo.conf file... At bootup, init says: VFS: Mounted toot (ext2 filesystem) readonly INIT: version 2.76 booting proc on /proc type proc (rw) Does anyone have any idea what I am missing to get the root file system set correctly as /dev/hda7 ? relevant lilo.conf entries are: boot=/dev/hda install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map vga=normal delay=40 image=/spare/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda7 label=rescue ramdisk=0 read-only John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Problems with Gtk Widget Shadowing in Potato
Hello, I have always seen this problem under slink, I am running GTK 1.2 also. The text that is doubled or shadowed always seems to be text on buttons that are grayed out and not selectable. I tried a few thems and fonts, but the problem remains. Although it is very ugly, it doesn't cause any real problems, and I never mentioned it. I would be very curious to know what causes this, and if it can be worked around, or prevented. John h From: James Bielman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian User List debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Problems with Gtk Widget Shadowing in Potato Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 21:40:08 -0800 I've been having this problem on some machines running Potato, and not others. I've yet to come to any conclusions about why this keeps happeneing, but I'd assume it's a FAQ... There appears to be some problems with the rendering of the shadows of some Gtk widgets (pushbuttons, etc). Attached is a PNG image of an XMMS dialog exhibiting the problem. I'm not using any Gtk themes. Is there a known solution to this problem, or something potentially wrong with my configuration? ii libgtk1.2 1.2.6-1The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets for X Thanks. James PS: Please Cc: me on any replies, as I unfortunately do not have the time to keep up with the traffic of this mailing list. Thanks! -- James Bielman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lead Developer theDial.com Private Labelled Audio Entertainment http://www.theDial.com/ GPG 1.0.1 Key Fingerprint: 5AE747BA9D B32174AD47 24BE6B2403 BF9F9D8A52 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GET 0x9F9D8A52 xmms-gtk-bug.png attach5 __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Epplet question
So How do I make this epplet that gives me the error to not be started ? Hello, I have had problems with epplets coming back, sometimes many copies of them at once. Deleting the files under .enlightenment doesn't get rid of them, so when I want to start clean, I simply rename the directory where I keep my epplets. You can try ALT-BUTTON3, chose Remember and toggle off the restart on login parameter, but in my experiences this doesn't always work. I keep my epplets in /usr/enlightenment/bin_x3 at the moment, and changing the name of the directory might be a hack but it has never caused me any problems, and I can be guaranteed that no epplets will start automatically once I rename the directory. So far, this epplet stuff is my only complaint issue with E. I also found that exiting E properly (CTRL-ALT-DELETE) then return to select Yes, Really log out helps things. I got this advice on the #E IRC channel. John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Epplet question
Thanks for your reply. I will try it :) The logout thing might be interesting. I usually just do init 0 as root to turn of my machine. The CTRL-ALT-DELETE is basically the same as selecting the Logout option from the mouse button 1 menu. I wanted to add another note, that someone on #E suggested. They suggested that I might be OK logging out the bad ways (CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE or init 0 as you did) as long as no NEW epplets were started. I tried this for a while, making sure to logout correctly whenever I tried a NEW epplet, and although it greatly reduced the frequency of epplet problems, now and then they would come back duplicated. It appears to be caused by E's session management capabilities, but that's about all I know... I wish there was a way to turn that stuff off completely, and start epplets from .xsession instead. I start my wmaker dock apps this way, as it's easy to comment them out, when I need to run color intensive apps. At some point I may grab the E sources, and see what's going on, but for now I switch to wmaker when I get too frustrated, but I really love E, and always come back to it. For what it is worth ... John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: wmsound: Error on Play Event
Hi,
write(2, Error on Play Event\n, 20Error on Play Event
Not sure if your problem is very simple, but I've seen this
message when 1) the sound set for the event does not exist
and 2) when the /dev/dsp device is open by some other process
maybe it was wmscope.
I'm not sure what your situation is. Do you have a /dev/dsp
device? Does it work with wavp some_file.wav for instance?
(Assuming you have the wavp program from the wave tools package).
It has been some time since I setup my sounds, but I would
look in the ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMSound file (you do have one
right?) for sounds that are specified but do not exist. I also
don't remember if I compiled wmsound myself or not. In any case
I have included my file, in case it helps get you going. I
grabbed a bunch of sounds from the net, so replace with your
names as needed...
debian:~# more GNUstep/Defaults/WMSound
{
SoundPath = (~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/Sounds,
/usr/share/WindowMaker/Sounds,
/jm/openstepsounds/OpenSTEP.Sounds/Sounds);
SoundSetsPath = (~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/SoundSets,
/usr/share/WindowMaker/SoundSets);
Device = /dev/dsp;
Startup = startup.wav;
AppStart = Rooster.wav;
AppExit = Bonk.wav;
Maximize = Bullfrog.wav;
UnMaximize = Frog.wav;
Iconify = Block.wav;
DeIconify = Drip.wav;
Hide = Funk.wav;
UnHide = Ping.wav;
Shade = Tink.wav;
UnShade = Basso.wav;
UserDefined = replaceme.wav;
}
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Re: need XF86Config for ThinkPad 560
Hi, Attached is my latest config file for the dual scan 560. Note the comments with the JM. It will work as is without flicker, but FVWM2 will not work correctly. Feel free to switch to the other modeline to use fvwm but with flicker. Enjoy and post results, John Miskinis __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com XF86Config_latest Description: Binary data
Re: need XF86Config for ThinkPad 560
Hi, Thanks for sending my the config. It worked after I went into XF86Config and set the default color depth to 8 bpp. I am getting a small amount of flicker, but I don't know how to fix that. I had not seen any flicker before I reinstalled Linux on this machine. I will make sure I copy the config to a disk this time :) I forget which 560 hardware configuration you have. I have the P100 dual scan and the trident 9832 chipset. I thought that config file had 8bpp as the default. I'm surprised that it did not work as is. I recently sent this to someone else, and it worked for their machine, which must have been the same as mine. If you come up with a better modeline or entire file, please let me know. With the modeline I had in that file, the screen is dimmer than it should be, but I get no flicker. With the other modeline the screen is bright, even fvwm2 works, but I get flicker. Again I am not sure if we have the same hardware configuration though. I can't risk damaging my HW by further experimental tweaking. I run with the file I sent you, and run wmaker and enlightenment with no problems. It's just fvwm2 that starts leaving pixels and blocks behind after a few window drags. Never figured out why. John Miskinis __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Java 1.2 fails to run.
Hi David, I am running slink also. I wouldn't say straight slink as I have done MANY apt-get(s) for packages that put other packages on etc., too many for me to keep track of, so I don't... I got the 1.2 JDK running a few weeks ago, but after some reading I got the impression the pre-release #1 (March) was what to install on a slink system. I haven't played with it in about a week, but I think I needed to specify the path on either the appletviewer or the javac compiler. I would try it right now, but I archived the tree to a Zip Disk at the moment. Things did work as expected, the few examples I played with all worked OK. If you don't get to the root of your problem, or get some assistance, I can restore my java tree and perform some tests for you. Again, I remember reading about the different pre-releases, and at the time decided that release #1 was what I wanted. You may want to check out the pages at blackdown... Hope this helps a little. I have a stock Slink system running on a K6 350 100 MHZ MB 128 MB RAM, 8G ide drive, SiS 6326 8MB video. I have jdk1.1 deb package installed. I need jdk1.2 I downloaded jdk1.2.2 r3 from blackdown, untarred it in /usr/local. I set the path per install instructions from blackdown: export PATH=/usr/bin/jdk1.2.2/bin:$PATH Attemtping to run java from here fails: java or cd /usr/local/jdk1.2.2/bin #./java each result in the following errors: ./java: /bin/realpath: No such file or directory ./java: /bin/realpath: No such file or directory java was not found in /bin/i386/native_threads/java Someone, please help me determine what I need to do to make jkd 1.2 run. --David __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Epplet Multiplication
Hi, I have had the same problem many times over. I have asked this question many times on the #E IRC channel, with no answers. I have done what you have done, and they come back. I did circumvent the problem a little by continously moving the directory they are located in. This also gets annoying. End result, I now run wmaker, no problems at all with the dock apps. It is too bad. I thought I was alone with this problem. John Miskinis __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
JAVA 2 debs for slink? Anyone? (CORRECTED SUBJECT)
Hello, I'm very sorry for the repost. The title should have read JAVA 2 (not 2.0). I am not looking for some pre-release past the 1.2 JDK. I wanted to avoid any confusion, as I have been corrected in the past by folks for mentioning JAVA 2.0 which appears to be very incorrect! Hello, I was curious if anyone had a pointer to JAVA 2 deb packages for slink. As I suspect this will be a very big download, and I'm using a modem, I want to make sure I get the right stuff. I also heard there is an emacs-based JDE, which I also would like to get, if this is separate from the main package(s). Any links, information, caveats, good/bad experiences welcome. I'm hoping others have walked this path before... Many Thanks, John Miskinis __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Thinkpad 570 XF86Config file?
Subject: Thinkpad 570 XF86Config file? If you could mail me one, I'd be grateful! Thanks, Hi, If the 570 is like the 560, there are several different hardware configurations. Even for the straight 560 not 560E or 560C or 560Z they differ. I would visit http://www.linux.org/hardware/laptop.html as a start. I did not see a 570 page, but there are a couple generic Thinkpad sites, possibly leading to more. I would also gather as much information about what your system contains, such as the video board, and the display type. I never found any info on what LCD panel is in my 560, but I was able to find some suitable XF86Config files for the dual-scan model 560, which work OK. I am currently using one I hacked up to eliminate all flicker, but a few X apps need the original one to work 100%. If you happen to run across any Thinkpad-related sites that have into LCD panel info for the various models, please let me know! Thanks, and good luck, linux runs very well on Thinkpads, John Miskinis __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
JAVA 2 (JDK 1.2) running OK on slink so far...
Hello, Today will be my first Java day. For slink it looks like you want jdk1.1, jdk1.1-dev, tya and jre. The two jdk's weight 12M each. I also would like to be clued in on what's what. I'm running unstable. I understand Sun just did some kind of end-run on Blackdown. Have they released something that is more current and is suitable for Debian? Hi, Last night, I grabbed the 22Meg JDK1.2 download from the following link, after some hunting around, and being overwhelmed by the number of downloads available at sun. (I arrived at this link from Sun) ftp://xfer.nitric.com/pub/java-linux/JDK-1.2/i386/ According to the README it is suitable for an almost slink system. I was having a problem for a little while with some of the binaries (java, javap) not finding libjava.so. even after adding the directory to ld.so.conf and rebuilding the cache. Ans I wasn't sure if the ending . was part of the error, or an unknown number, as most if not all of the files I see listed in ldconfig -D have numeric versions. In any case, it appears that if I specify the full path to java, or add the path to my PATH, everything works OK! So far, I have only viewed some of the examples from the demo directory, and they appear to work in both the appletviewer and by java the_class_name. I have not tried compiling yet, and have not downloaded the docs yet. These are my next steps. The SW appears to be from March, but again this is the pre-release 1, which appears to be built for Debian 2.1 usage. There are some notes about sound not fully working, and that sound may not work or be broken up. The examples in the Animator demo produced sounds, but there was a brief pause between the different samples. There was also some notes about the lack of a need to define the CLASSPATH and JAVA_HOME environment variables, as this kit determines these based on where the stuff is installed. This is probably why I had trouble when not specifying the path to java, etc. But it all appears to be working now, and it was nice to read the short README seeing that installation is trivial. If you are running potato, I would read the READMEs in the directories, as you may want the pre-release 2. John Miskinis __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
JAVA 2.0 debs for slink? Anyone know where?
Hello, I was curious if anyone had a pointer to JAVA 2 deb packages for slink. As I suspect this will be a very big download, and I'm using a modem, I want to make sure I get the right stuff. I also heard there is an emacs-based JDE, which I also would like to get, if this is separate from the main package(s). Any links, information, caveats, good/bad experiences welcome. I'm hoping others have walked this path before... Many Thanks, John Miskinis __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Atari ST as Dumb Terminal
Hello David, I wish to connect my old Atari ST to my linux box running slink with a serial cable and use it basically as a dumb terminal. Could someone please point me in the direction of some useful documentation as to how to do this. Also does anyone know what software would be required on the Atari to be able to do this As far as software, there is a package called uniterm that was written by a fellow employee at DIGITAL many moons ago. At the time it was free to employees, but I believe he released it into the public domain, a few years later. It has full VT100, and even VT102 emulation, and can be configured in a multitude of ways. I used it all the time when telecommuting back then (in the good 'ole days). In any case, if a web search does not turn up anything, I'm sure I can scrounge up a copy. I would prefer to make sure it's OK to distribute first, but I'm pretty sure it is out there on the web in a few places. If my memory serves me correct, .19 was the final version. Keep us posted, I've got some STs laying around, and I know at least one works, so I will probably be getting to this task myself soon. I'm not sure if a NULL modem will be necessary, I forget all that stuff. I believe the serial port on the ST is a MODEM port, which may have 2 signals switched from what a standard serial port on a linux box expects. I'm sure others can elaborate. I'd wait until someome confirms this. I do not believe it can cause any damage, it just won't work. But these days, I tend to take the safer route when experimenting with my hardware. Also, somewhat off topic, there is an ST emulator called STONX (ST on X) which I also want to check out soon. I once wrote a small window system and Motif-like widget set layered on top of LINEA, and custom device drivers for the MIDI, mouse, and keyboard. It would be quite amazing if this could actually run on a linux box! John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Snafu
Hello, The system boots and reboots OK. I've been playing around with bash commands. Not all of the ones I read about on Web pages seem to be working. Now I want to run dbootstrap to configure my base system. But when I type dbootstrap at the $ prompt, I get command not found. I go to the root (or whatever you call /) and type find dbootstrap, but that just gives me no such file or directory. Anybody know where I am and where I should be going? Or is it time to use a blunt instrument on this installation? I've been running debian for months, and never heard of the dbootstrap program. Perhaps others can elaborate, as it may be a transient (and temporary) file only used during the install. I checked MY system, with the command listed below, and it does not exist anywhere on my system. find / -name dbootstrap -print As far as commands in general, depending on what command you are trying to execute, it may or may not exist in the base system provided by a linux distribution. In the case of Debian, it is a simple matter to install the correct package that supplies the command. If you post some of the commands you are trying, more information can be provided. If you are executing standard commands, and they are failing, I would suggest a re-install, which in my opinion is what I would do anyway. Again, I'm not familiar with the details of the interruption of the install you mentioned. In any case, I would reccomend posting more detail about your situation. There are many friendly people on this list with open ears. John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: using X Toolkit API...- Pushbutton.h? (SOLVED)
Hello, I figured it out. The widgets used in the Xt examples are not from any standard widget set. They are presented in chapter 10 of the 900+ page book. John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Enlightenment?
Hello, Did anyone get E installed? When I do an apt-get install enlightenment YES, I got it working well on slink, with apt-get. I have included my sources.list below. I think I got the ~vincent pointers from gnome.org, can't remember. Also, I may have reordered the last 2 lines to the top, also can't remember. # Use for a local mirror - remove the ftp1 http lines for the bits # your mirror contains. # deb file:/your/mirror/here/debian stable main contrib non-free # See sources.list(5) for more information, especial # Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US deb http://www.debian.org/~vincent/ slink-update main deb http://www.debian.org/~vincent/ xfree-update main __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Gnome/E
Hello, I run E on a Pentium 100 w 24 Mb RAM. As far as the colors not going together, you can change the appearance of the gnome applications, by changing the GTK themes. The gnomecc application makes installing and changing themes quite easy. You can also preview them, and try them right away. John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
using X Toolkit API on slink - Pushbutton.h?
Hello, I'm trying to get a full X Development system put together based on slink. I am trying to get some simple XT examples to compile. (although I have lesstif and GTK working nicely) There is no Pushbutton.h file on my system anywhere, although in the Xaw directory Box.h and Label.h are there. ** Do I need to install more packages for XT development? All my books are X11 R5 based, but I doubt that the push button widget went away in R6! Help! John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
How to determine what apt-get can install?
Hello, Pardon my ignorance. Up until now, I have used a command such as dpkg -l *|grep -i WHATEVER when I am trying to find out the package name(s) of things relating to WHATEVER. At the moment, I am trying to find out what pieces of imlib stuff I might be missing, as I can't compile wmakerconf. So I execute: dpkg -l * | grep -i imlib I get a list of a few packages, several names are truncated, and most have no description available. Is there a better way to find out what is actually available based on my sources.list file? John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: strange /etc/menu-methods errors (FIXED)
Hello, Thanks. I did not know about the menu package. I just upgraded it, and it appears to have fixed the problem. I had 1.5-17 and now have 2.1.4-2 , so you were correct. After apt-get finished, I saw no errors like before. I had commented out that line (12) yesterday, and it got another error further on. I am really amazed that this is the only glitch I have found after installing some october gnome and enlightenment from the ~vincent directory at debian.org... John From: John Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: strange /etc/menu-methods errors, how to fix? Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 09:51:25 +1030 On Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 11:32:50PM -0800, John Miskinis wrote Hello, Ever since I installed enlightment (really cool), I get these errors whenever I install anything... Update-menus: (checking /var/lib/dpkg/lock) debian:/home/miskinis# In file /etc/menu-methods//enlightenment at line 12: onlyrunasroot=true ^ Unknown identifier /etc/menu-methods//enlightenment: Aborting I don't have a clue as to what is wrong, or how to fix. I saw some errors when I typed man dpkg a few hours ago, and I think they were also enlighment related. Now it can't find the manual page for dpkg. I think there used to be one. This directive is recognised by version 2.0 or greater of the 'menu' package, but it looks like you have an older version installed. You can put up with it (in which case, Enlightenment's debian menus may not work), upgrade the menu package, or comment out this line in /etc/menu-methods/enlightenment (in which case, you may get two debian menus if you run update-menus as a regular user). John P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh - I - you know - my job is to fear everything. - Bill Gates in Denmark -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Anyone seen/fixed wmakerconf crash problems?
Hello, For some strange reason wmakerconf now crashes just after the window appears. I WAS running wmakerconf 1.7 and everything was working OK. I didn't run it for about a week. All of a sudden it would crash complaining about a GTK style copy problem, and a NULL cast to a GTK widget. Earlier today I installed gtk-engines-pixmap, and something else it neededm in order to get GTK themes working. I just removed all of the wmaker stuff, and when I reinstalled it via apt-get, it put wmakerconf 1.2 (older) on my system. But this crashes also, no info, just a seg fault. Has anyone seen this problem? My wmaker is working OK, but I can't configure it any more! I have included what I have in my /etc/apt/sources.list , in case I have something stupid. Is this indeed related to the recently installed gtk theme support I added? Am I trying to put stuff on slink that I shouldn't? deb http://www.debian.org/~vincent/ slink-update main deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US deb http://www.debian.org/~vincent/ xfree-update main Again, any info is welcome. I couldn't find any place at the wmaker site for such discussions... John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
strange /etc/menu-methods errors, how to fix?
Hello, Ever since I installed enlightment (really cool), I get these errors whenever I install anything... Update-menus: (checking /var/lib/dpkg/lock) debian:/home/miskinis# In file /etc/menu-methods//enlightenment at line 12: onlyrunasroot=true ^ Unknown identifier /etc/menu-methods//enlightenment: Aborting I don't have a clue as to what is wrong, or how to fix. I saw some errors when I typed man dpkg a few hours ago, and I think they were also enlighment related. Now it can't find the manual page for dpkg. I think there used to be one. John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda4 with ZIP disks
Hello, It appears there are at least a couple different models of the ZIP drive for the parallel port. The one I have now does not work with the PPA support, but works fine with the IMM package. I always have to use /dev/sda4 to access it. I recently tried to build a small debian linux system on a ZIP disk, but gave up. For what it's worth, I believe the newer models have the same interface as the ZIP Plus drive, and both must use IMM. John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Can I build a kernel with builtin IMM (ZIP DRIVE) support?
Hello, A while back, I was unable to get my ZIP dribe to work with the PPA support, but IMM support allowed it to work. This IMM support is in a loadable module. I have been reading the Zip_Install howto, in preparation to try to get a Linux system built on a ZIP disk, to allow me to perform a restore (using taper) of my main system as a backup strategy. I'm wondering if it is possible to build this IMM module into the kernel, and if so, how. The howto also specifies that a bzimage must be created, not a zimage. I have never been able to get a bzdisk to work on by Thinkpad 560, and was told that others have only been able get zdisks to work. I'm hoping there are no technical reasons preventing me from creating such a system on a zip disk, booted from floppy of course. Any advice, or information welcome, John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: PPP stuff continued... (Up and running w apt-get, netscape!)
Hi, I don't know what let me to think that pon and diald were related. I probably installed diald a while back in preparation to get PPP working after I got an ISP that supported PPP. In any case, I don't think there is anything wrong with any documentation at all. I just had a lot of new things to learn about all at once. I just grabbed netscape-smotif-45 through apt-get, and I am using it to send this mail (through hotmail's site). I deleted my provider script, reran pppconfig, and pon now does everything for me automatically. I didn't have to change any files. I've been tailing ppp.log and it still rejects a negotiation for compression, but everything is working though. I also changed auth to noauth, as the CHAPS authentication fails. I expect to talk to my ISP;s tech support tomorrow and ask them what I should do, or even if this stuff is expected to work. All in all, I'm thankful thinks are working on the net! John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: PPP stuff continued... (Up and running w apt-get, netscape!)
Hi, What I meant, was that if it I run with auth than the CHAPS authentication fails. If I run with noauth, all works OK. I saw a note in options stating that the auth should not be disabled, and I'm not sure I should worry about this or not. I changed this in options prior to rerunning pppconfig the second time. You are correct, there is a noauth inserted by pppconfig into etc/peers/provider now. So, I guess that I shouldn't worry about this authentication after all? Thanks for explaining the NAKs, and the fact that the compression won't matter that much. John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: PPP stuff continued... (Up and running w apt-get, netscape!)
Hi, So should I persue trying to get my system to authenticate my ISP's connection to my machine? Or is this not typically used for systems that connect TO an ISP? I'm hoping that it's OK to live without out it, and not open my system up to possible intrusion. Thanks again, John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
PPP - almost there, but stuck on routing table :(
Hello, I have recently aquired a PPP-based ISP, in hopes to get linux network connectivity. I have been working with the PPP howto, and got PPP somewhat working. I am stuck at the point where a route -n only shows ONE ppp0 connection, where the howto says it should show TWO. I am able to ping the IP address of the remote machine OK. I am not able to do anything else though. No default route stuff shows up, and I'm wondering if the debian distribution sets up something that I must change. I am using a PCMCIA-based modem, connecting manually through minicom and specifying my username and password. I then quit minicom leaving the modem connected, and run pppd -d -detach /dev/ttyS2 57600. When I ran pppconfig it put the 2 DNS server numbers in OK, but according to the howto, there should be a domain ISP_DOMAIN_NAME line before them, and I don't know the name, or if it is needed. I can post more info,, but I do not know where to start. Anyone have any clues as to why the default route is not setup? Thanks, John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: PPP - almost there, but stuck on routing table :(
Hi, I noticed that the /dev/modem worked also, but I wanted to be sure that it was using ttyS2 for now. I am also trying everything as root for now. I tried pon but it complained about some things that I have not yet configured (in diald?). I figured it would be best to get the manual connection method working first, to ensure everything is OK, before automating... John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
PPP working now! Recommended browsers for slink?
Hi, Wow! It was as simple as adding the defaultroute line in my /etc/ppp/options file! Many thanks! I tried to send this message using gzilla (from slink), but it chokes on pages that are too complex. (It doesn't even show me the navigation buttons in HOWTOs!) SO, now I am looking for recommendations on downloading a browser that will run under slink. I figured since it will be a BIG download I would be best to ask for advise first. This will also help people who look at the mailing list archives I hope. I checked out the mozilla that was on the slink CD a while back, but I kept getting error dialogs in many of the configuration panels, and I ended up using gzilla to read local files instead. I do not wish to start a browser war, I just want to avoid a big download that will have problems running on slink! I can't tell you how happy I am to be able to connect to the net via linux. This is one of the last pieces of a puzzle I was not even sure would fit on my IBM Thinkpad 560! John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: PPP - almost there, but stuck on routing table :(
Hi, That makes sense, I can see where /dev/modem is useful once things are working. I did remember seeing a note somewhere (I've been up all night reading stuff, I forget where) where they discouraged the use of /dev/modem, and /dev/mouse however! I'm still accepting recommendations for slink-compatible browsers. I just grabbed Mosaic but it is complaining about the lack of libXt.so.6. And the darn link is there (to libXt.so.6.0) on my system. This might be related to a warning I get when running ldconfig, as I have pending configurations of libwraster stuff from a failed attempt of installing dev versions of things without the required non-dev versions. (Another story, yet to be resumed). John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
PPP stuff continued... (I am not stuck on routing any more)
Hi, I had to change the subject line... OK, I had run pppconfig many hours ago, and at that time I thought it was tied to diald. When I execute pon now, it will not connect, but my /etc/chatscripts needs work. Now that I have PPP working (no authorization and no compression yet) I think I have enough knowledge to get automation working. My current chatscript does not have much in it, except for the ATZ and the wait for OK, with many abort actions. I will work this out though. As far as browsers, I fixed my --configure --pending issue (which was related to libwraster2 needed by libraster2-dev) and reran ldconfig. But the Mosaic-2_6 still couldn't find libXt.so.6 even the link was there. I deleted mosaic (for now). I checked out both arena and mozilla from the slink CD. For some reason(s) the login page at hotmail.com does not work in them. I will probably end up grabbing netscape after some sleep. I again thank you all for the PPP assistance. John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Does anyone use ZIP disks to backup/restore their system? How?
Hi, I do not understand everything in the MSPLIT description, but I am certainly willing to play around with it. I'm surprised at the few responses I got about my question. I assumed lots of people would be using ZIP disks for a backups/restores. This leads me to ask if most people just backup their important files on linux, and if they lose their system, they reinstall from scratch, then restore just their important (user modified) files? This is how I always worked on Windows 95. If I had a builtin CDROM, and linux was easier to install I might opt for this, but on my Thinkpad 560, it took me 4-5 hours to get everything back. I still don't understand why I trashed my hard disk areas outside of the /dev/hda5 partition, when trying to use cpio directly to try to restore from the KBackup-Arc.arc files on my ZIP disks, that multibuf and afio had problems with. From: E.L. Meijer \(Eric\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Does anyone use ZIP disks to backup/restore their system? How? Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 13:29:38 +0100 On Tue, Nov 02, 1999 at 11:56:05AM +0100, Wouter Hanegraaff wrote: On Tue, Nov 02, 1999 at 02:11:09AM -0800, John Miskinis wrote: Hi, I'm hoping to find a set of tools that will allow a linux system to be backed up, and restored, using ZIP disks. I would really appreciate any advise on this subject, from anyone who has successfully restored a system from a multi-volume set. I've heard taper can work with zipdisks. However, if you have enough disk space you can just use tar and split to make a splitted (and gzip'd) tarfile in /tmp, and then just copy the splits to your zipdisk. [... description ...] I wrote a little program that can do this without intermediate storage: MSPLIT(1) Dividing output over multiple volumes.MSPLIT(1) NAME msplit - a utility to divide output over multiple flop pies, zip disks, etc SYNOPSIS command | msplit mount dir output DESCRIPTION This manual page describes version 0.2 of msplit. Msplit reads data from the standard input (usually a pipe), and writes it to files named output.num, where num is an increasing number, in a directory on which a removable medium can be mounted. Typical uses will be to distribute data over multiple floppies or zip disks. You should not mount anything before running the command. Msplit will ask the user to insert the removable volume, and try to mount it with the command `mount mount dir'. Then it will open a file named output.0, and write until there is no more input or the volume is full. If the lat ter case applies, msplit will umount the directory, ask for another volume (usually a disk), mount it, and start writing output.1. This process continues until there is no more input. Note that msplit does not erase any data found on the disks, it only adds to them. This makes it more flexible than using regular split(1). Another advan tage above split is that no intermediary files are cre ated. The current version also lists the contents of the mounted volume, and offers the possibility to erase everything. Restoring without intermediate files could also be done with a procedure like this (and this applies also to archives made with regular split): Open an xterm, and do $ mkfifo tarfile $ tar xvf tarfile Open another xterm, and supposing you have used msplit and generated files named backup.0 .. backup.2 on different zip disks, do something like (this assumes you use bash) $ exec 3tarfile insert first zip disk $ mount /zip; cat /zip/backup.0 13; umount /zip insert second zip disk $ mount /zip; cat /zip/backup.1 13; umount /zip insert third zip disk $ mount /zip; cat /zip/backup.2 13; umount /zip $ exec 31 Be sure to do this from the right directory. In between the cat commands you can give any commands you like, but make sure to cat the backup files to file descriptor 3 in the right order! If I get around it, one day I will write `mcat' which automates this procedure and complements msplit. Personally I use msplit mostly for floppies, so it is in general not impossible to store the intermediate files. If anyone is interested in `msplit' I can email it to them. If anyone feels like putting it in a debian package I'll tack on a GPL licence and you can go ahead. Of course there are no warranties ... -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Eindhoven Univ. of Technology Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (SKA) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Does anyone use ZIP disks to backup/restore their system? How?
Hi, Thanks for the replies, it's really nice to know how others deal with the backup issue(s). I'm really hoping to implement a backup strategy that will allow me to backup/restore my entire linux system. Over the last 10 hours or so, I have been researching taper as a means. I checked out a couple others, but one needed libc5 libraries, and I wasn't sure if the other would work with multiple volumes. Taper seems to be quite slick. I did a full backup, which only spanned 2 volumes, instead of 3 with kbackup. Unfortunately I can't seem to fit taper on my rescue disk. It has library dependencies (curses? forms?) but allows static building. But the static binaries become QUITE large. I tried pruning down my rescue system as small as possible, but I think I need to start from scratch again. I use zdisk which is also quite slick. It copies a specified kernel (mine!) and an MSDOS filed filesystem (compressed). The MSDOS file system actually includes an ext2 filed filesystem (compressed) and syslinux. It was a little trickly to figure it out, but I did, and am impressed. BUT, I think my MSDOS filed filesystem is not compressing as small as it should, because I have changed it REPEATEDLY. I remember seeing some notes somewhere about this (bootkit?) and why the /dev/zero is used as the input file when creating a file to be used as a loop device. I think it may actually be possible to use zdisk to create a 1 floppy boot/root disk, that will allow a taper restore to happen. My brain is a little fried after the last 10 hours or so on this project, but I will be persuing this again in the near future. I may have to resort to having the taper and bg_restore binaries on a seperate floppy. If I ever get this working, I would be interested to know if people would benefit from a web page on all of this stuff. I planned to have a linux on IBM Thinkpad 560 up at some point anyway, as it's very tricky to get linux on this machine with no network connectivity and no builtin CD! John From: E.L. Meijer \(Eric\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Does anyone use ZIP disks to backup/restore their system? How? Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:37:07 +0100 On Tue, Nov 02, 1999 at 06:29:45PM -0800, John Miskinis wrote: Hi, [...] This leads me to ask if most people just backup their important files on linux, and if they lose their system, they reinstall from scratch, then restore just their important (user modified) files? Not even that. I only safeguard my own products (TeX files, fractals, programs). The rest I have on CD, and the second time I install something I usually configure things faster. Sometimes it is nice to try some new settings. This is how I always worked on Windows 95. If I had a builtin CDROM, and linux was easier to install I might opt for this, but on my Thinkpad 560, it took me 4-5 hours to get everything back. It probably would take me the same amount of time. But then again, it doesn't happen a lot. Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Eindhoven Univ. of Technology Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (SKA) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
HELP! Can't restore system after 1st ZIP afio archive
Hello, Perhaps there is an easier/better solution then kbackup/afio? Before I reinstall from scratch, I would appreciate advice, as it may be possible to get my system back I recently used the zdisk utility to successfully build a boot floopy, with my kernel that has support for my (imm) Zip drive, in the hopes of implementing a backup/restore strategy for my Debian slink system. I used kbackup to make a full backup, to 3 Zip disks. Of course to make sure I could restore, I wiped out my system partition, and am having problems restoring it (darn it!). The restore command specified in the kbackup documentation is a little confusing, as they use `` and '' for double quotes, and I am not sure if the - at the end next to verbatim is needed. It looks like the - is needed though, as the command does nothing without it. But the afio and multibuf help text mentions nothing about a - by itself. In any case, at the end of the first Zip disk, I get an error about end of medium. I have been trying many commands to try to start from the 2nd Zip disk, with no luck. There is only the KBackup-Arc.arc file on the 2nd Zip, unlike the 1st which as a header file, etc. To restore starting from the 1st Zip I am using the command : multibuf -r -h -F -c umount /mnt;echo Next Volume;read -C mount /dev/sda4 /mnt -t ext2 /mnt/KBackup-Arc.arc | afio -i -vzZ - Things start to be restored properly until the end of the 1st Zip. It then fails, errors about end of medium. I have been trying all sorts of commands to start at the second Zip, with no luck. There is a KBackup-Arc.arc on the 2nd Zip disk, but I don't know if it is possible to get the files back. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Does anyone use ZIP disks to backup/restore their system? How?
Hi, I'm hoping to find a set of tools that will allow a linux system to be backed up, and restored, using ZIP disks. I would really appreciate any advise on this subject, from anyone who has successfully restored a system from a multi-volume set. I'm really stuck, trying to figure out everything I did to get my PCMCIA-SCSI-CDROM and IMM zip working, and when I do, I do not want to experiment with backup/restore solutions on my own! Many thanks as always, John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
I shrunk my swap partition, how do I let linux know?
Hello, I have been trying to make a boot/root disk, so I can have a kernel boot with support for my ZIP drive, and PCMCIA-SCSI-CDROM if possible. WOW, I can't believe how hard this is! To make it easier I shrunk my swap partition size by 17 meg, and created a spare ext2 partition of 17 meg. When I boot, I see a message saying that it is adding about 50 meg swap space. This was the OLD size, but the NEW size is about 32 meg. I can't find any info on how to let linux know that my swap partition has changes sizes. Any info on this, as well as a more newbie friendly guide to creating boot/root disks would be welcome. I figure I will start by setting up this meg partition with everything needed to boot, and use LILO (for now) to add it to my possible boot schemes. I am also doing this so I can learn about EVERYTHING that linux needs to boot up. John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
swap partition size OK... Pointers to MINIMUM boot configuration info?
Hi, Thanks! That was the info I needed. I ran mkswap, and it now refects the proper size of the swap file during bootup. I could REALLY use some pointers to sites that have info on how to create a minimum startup configuration. I have been following the Bootdisk-HOWTO, but I am left with many questions. I am hoping that there are some sites out there that will explain how to create a minimum barebones system. I have created what I believe are the essential devices, and am using the simple /etc/inittab and /etc/rc from the howto. The system hangs after mounting the root system read only, giving no more clues. I am also confused about the boot.b and map files, and how they come into play, and how they are created. Pointers greatly welcomed! John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
zdisk boots, bzdisk won't - Thinkpad 560
Hello, I have noticed that when I create a boot floppy with make zdisk it will boot, but when using make bzdisk it will not. I had to use the tecra rescue and driver disks when installing, and I wonder if this is somehow related to the IBM Thinkpad 560. Or, is there something else going on in the picture? Any info, or pointers to it would be helpful, John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: libc6 =2.1 on slink, without apt-get possible?
Hi, (1) It is probably easiest to get the isp stuff working I only have AOL at the moment. I connect via WIN95, and then mount by c: as a vfat partition under linux, and move .deb files that I grab on the net, over to my linux partition. (2) Is the problem your modem or your isp ? The problem is AOL, and their proprietary connectivity protocols. FYI, Whatever I did over the last couple days, really messed up by dselect database. I'm in the process of re-installing linux at the moment, and I'm having some problems. Although I have a full backup of / that spans 3 Zip disks, I can't use it :( as I forgot that there is a LOT of stuff needed like my custom kernel, the pcmcia-cs (newer than on slink CD) and imm, etc... Once I get back up and running linux, my new #1 priority is getting a backup strategy in place, with ALL the stuff I need to get linux back, if possible. John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Is it possible to get libc6 = 2.1 to run on slink? How/Where?
Hello, I'm not up to speed on libc6 at all. From what I can gather it is not just a regular package. I thought I had a HOWTO on this, but it turned out to be a libc5-libc6 upgrade document. A while back I tried to get enlightenment-conf up, and I believe it needed libc6 = 2.1 or some dependency did. In any case I've tried to find a newer libc6 with no luck. Last night I tried to get XF86 3.3.5.1 up, but it mentioned libc6 = 2.1 also. I also got the frame_register_buffer (?) error which may or may not be related. I'm glad I backed up /usr/X11R6 as suggested (in bold) in the install docs! In any case I would be love a pointer to some info on libc6, I'm very confused. Or a note stating that 2.1 is not possible on slink if applicable. Thanks and Happy Linuxing to all, John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Need help for x window
Hi Brant. It is a Micron model M14FG. It says on back: 115/230V/1A, 60/50hz. I have tried manually entering 60 for the horiz and 50 for the vert. I have tried selections that were preconfigured at 60 and 50. I feel like I have YIKES - That sounds like the power supply specs! BE CAREFUL! The color window you saw at installation sounds like the standard VGA graphics capabilities, (after you selected color) part of the install. This is completely different from X... John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: IBM Thinkpad 560 - (YES, ALL SET FOR THOSE PROBLEMS)
Hi, Wow, I sent that mail on 9/9/99 (interesting numbers) and since then I've become a linux nut. Yes, I ended up using the tecra disks. I think it might have been you that helped me way back then. The problems I was experiencing were due to the PCMCIA-based CDROM I had, and I thought it was possible to easily get that to work. I finally did get that to work, but I now use my PCMCIA-SCSI host adapter (Bus Toaster) with a SCSI-based JVC CDROM/RW which is much more reliable, since it stays spun up, etc.. I think my H45 QuickCD needs to be repaired, as it was flaky since about day 3 on Win95. I needed to make sure I got my other one working before making arrangements to send it in to be checked out. It freezes now and then, and needs to be powered off/on. Plus a tiny screw came out of it one day, when I noticed some rattle, and tipped it. I do not think I am using the best capabilities though. My X Windows Screen is dimmer than it should be, with the XF86Config I hacked up to get rid of the flicker. Also the fvwm2 window manager is not usable, as it leaves graphics behind using that config. The configs I found on the net ALL have BAD FLICKER but fvwm2 does work with them. (40 versus 28.32 dot clock). Note that sometimes (very rarely) my (flicker free dim) config causes a pixel or two to be left behind in other apps. (Like xfishtank, and only once in xclock). So I am not blaming fvwm2 for anything! I'm pretty happy all in all, but still get lost when trying to get the newer gnome up, or even enlightment-conf. It appears that there are MANY dependencies, for enlightment-conf, that require newer versions of a LOT of things, as soon as you start adding things like libart2 and freetype2 (I believe). So for the most part, I'm trying to stay with the stuff on the 2.1 CD. I just started playing with the GTK widget set today. Enough disk space wasted for this message, John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: small dselect question AND X Window problem
Hi, You might not realize yet that CASE matters on Linux/Unix.. /etc/X11/XF86Config I think it can be in a couple other places, and in fact I got hosed this way a few times, as I had files in two places and couldn't figure out why the changes I made were not being seen. I think the apt-get install mechanism only works over the net, which I can't use. I get the impression from your previous posts that you use a different computer to get to the internet. (I use the same computer, different OS!) If I want to install just one (or even more) packages from the CD I run dselect. After satisfying the questions about ACCESS and UPDATE, I choose (the next default) SELECT. I immediately hit spacebar and return, to get to the main list. Then a v to get into verbose mode. Then an uppercase) I, to get the whole screen. I then navigate down to the package(s) I want with the down arrow. I use a + which selects the file for installation (if it isn't already). Assuming no dependency problems, after you have selected the package(s) you want, hit return. The next steps are INSTALL, then CONFIGURE, then REMOVE (won't do anything unless you used - to ask for packahes to be removed), then QUIT. It will walk you through these last steps by default. Good Luck, John From: jh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: small dselect question Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:46:02 -0600 Hi. If I just want to install 1 program from dselect, would I want to go through and put an = sign by the programs that are currently installed so it doesn't have to go through all the files when installing? I hope this question makes sense. Thanks, Jeff -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Installation problems
Hi, If you must install from floppies, I would use different ones. When I need a floppy for something, I format it under windows 95, check the full format and no label option. After it formats, be SURE to check the number of BAD bytes in the info dialog that appears when the format is done. If the number of bytes in bad sectors is greater than 0, I always yell damn, walk into the kitchen and throw the floppy in the trash. Good Luck, John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: enlightenment problem
Hi Stephan, I have only seen the enlightenment on the slink CD. But when I checked it out, I think I got around the same problem by running a program called imlib_config (or something close). If you type imlibTAB at the prompt, you should see it. Hope this helps, John P.S. I never got enlightment-conf to run, something about needing a newer lib6. Enlightenment looked real nice, made cool sounds, but I couldn't get it to do anything useful for me :( __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: looking before I leap (bye gnome!)
Hello, I don't suppose you would be so kind as to outline the steps you took? I really don't hate gnome or anything (prefer it to kde) and might want to put it back sometime... you sound like you have some experience at this... thanks! I just waded through the dselect package list, hitting - on all of the gnome-* packages. Other times, I would hit - on something like libgnorbit0 or libgnorba27 and then it would list all of the dependencies, and I would hit - on all of them. Then of course, when hitting return in delsect on the remove unwanted software those packages were actually removed from my system. I actually mapped out all of the dependencies on paper once, while trying to get newer gnome stuff up and running. When I tried (several times) to get things back, I was installing from my win95/vfat partition using newer files I downloaded, using the dpkg -i option, then when everything was there, using the dpkg --configure --pending command. I'm get over my head when trying to get (newer) enlightenment-conf, which needs freetype2 and libc6 newer than what I can find :( I am not quite up to speed on the glibc ties to lib6c yet. In any case, the procedures above got rid of most, if not all, of the gnome related stuff. Hope this helps, John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Anyone got a makefile or Imakefile for lesstif | viewkit :(
Hi Folks, Yesterday I grabbed the viewkit for linux SW from www.viewkit.com and really would like to get started. The SW came with no examples or makefiles. I was trying to get this stuff running, as I have an interview with a company TOMORROW that uses viewkit. I sent mail to the viewkit.com webmaster yesterday, as their search page is broken, and although the release notes mention the Imakefiles with the examples, I believe they only come with the commercial version. No reply yet. ANY and ALL help is appreciated. It appears that I have the Xm files from lesstif OK according to the package's .list file. I will be happy just getting the simple hello world style examples running, which are very small and appear in some of the pages at their site. If I can compile and link these, I can most likely figure out everything else myself. Help! John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: looking before I leap (bye gnome!)
Hello, What the heck is the big deal about gnome anyway? I have only seen the gnome that comes on the Debian 2.1 CD, I have not seen later versions. I believe gnome is in its infancy stage at present. From what I have read about it on the web, the big deal appears to be that a full set of applications will be delivered that supply the general computing needs of the public. And of course these will be provided FREE OF CHARGE! It's underlying architecture is somewhat brand new, but I am very impressed with the goals and the technical accomplishments of it so far. I have been trying to get binaries of new(er) gnome pieces running on my (slink and 2.0.36) system, but have not yet. I am not sure I love the gtk widget set (yet) but I have not played around with development with it. As far as your other question, I have removed and reinstalled gnome MANY times on my system with no illness to my system. John (In no way connected to the gnome project) __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: How's the CDROM problem, solved?
Hi, Yes, I read that post. You need to determine what the IRQ and IO address of your board is currently. Then tell linux about it. By looking at the current switch settings on your board, use the tables in the manual to determine what IRQ and IO address the board is set for. Don't trust anything that says default until you have verified it. The modprobe command error indicates something is wrong with the combination of HW/SW. The mount command will never work until you get this right. You can always view the system boot text by executing the dmesg command. You will want to look at the IRQs used by other devices and may have to set your board differently, so it does not use one of those. I would post the entire dmesg output to the list if you can't figure out what the error messages are from the normal messages. I am not sure where to specify these addresses to linux, so you may want to post that specific question to the list once you do determine what your current addresses are, and it doesn't look like any other devices are using the IRQ. John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: scrolls too fast
Hi, I also posted a reply to your CDROM problem, to get you a little further, but it has not shown up yet. Anyway use the more command followed by the file name. This will not help you with dmesg though, unless you output it to a file, or pipe the output directly to more... more foo.txt would display the file foo.txt, one page at a time, using space bar to advance to next page. dmesg foo.txt would put the output from dmesg into foo.txt dmesg | more would take the output of dmesg and pipe it directly into more Be careful with typos until you know what you are doing. The rm command is like del. The mv command is line rename, and the cp is like copy. To shutdown your system properly, execute shutdown -h now as root, and WAIT until it displays system halted. Failure to do so can corrupt your disk, as the kernel caches disk writes. Important log files are in the /var/log directory. I think dmesg just prints out the syslog file. Also if you want to use the floppy, you can't just switch floppies without unmounting them, keep that in mind for later. John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CDROM problem, solved? Yes, I think
Hi, The dselect program will mount the CDROM for you. I assume you wish to get the rest of the debian SW on your machine and that is why you wish to use the CDROM at the moment. You can brave dselect now, chose the Multi-CD option in ACCESS. When it asks you for the device, specify /dev/mcd for it. It will ask you a few questions about directories, but since you have the CD, you should be able to hit RETURN for everything. Then refer to my earlier post to brave dselect, but I REALLY recommend getting more info on deselect if you get too frustrated. If you wish to see if the CDROM works first, execute that mount command that was posted, or you may be able to get away with mount /dev/mcd /mnt(mounts the CD as /mnt) ls /mnt(lists the files in the top level directory) df (shows you what is mounted) umount /mnt(unmounts the /mnt which is your CDROM now) You may have to use mount -t iso9660 /dev/mcd /mnt ro or whatever was contained the other post. I'm sure you wrote it down or have it. John From: jh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Miskinis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CDROM problem, solved? Yes, I think Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 00:36:05 -0600 I pulled the interface card and the first thing that I noticed is that nothing was set to default. I thought I would restore the jumper settings and the switches to default and try it. I went into modconf and installed the module to the kernel. It worked! It succedded. Now how do I mount it? I am very grateful for your coaching. The part about not trusting that something is set to default did it. Jeff __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Help needed also - Enlightenment/Gnome on slink
Hello, I could also use some help trying to get later gnome versions and enlightenment running on slink (2.0.36 kernel). I originally installed the gnome and enlightenment that came on the slink CD. But the enlightenment-conf had problems installing. I grabbed a bunch of .debs of newer gnome and enlightenment recently. It appears that freetype2 needs libc6 - 2.1 and I cant seem to find this. When I run enlightenment now, there is no text at all, and wierd things happen to my screen. Is there a place that has everything needed for a later gnome and enlightenment, and what it needs? (and that will run under 2.0.36) I am not sure how to get dselect to recognize the dependencies that exist when I try to install from hard disk, using seperate .deb files that I grab individually. I currently have to use WIN95/AOL to grab files, and I use dpkg -i to install these one by one. I then note the configuration errors and install each of the dependency .deb files one by one, and then finally use dpkg --configure --pending to get everything setup after all pieces have been installed. Until I get an ISP that allows linux connectivity, I can't use apt-get. John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: installed but now what?
Thanks for writting John. I have a 486dx desktop. It has 16 mb of ram. I do not believe I have any PCMCIA ability. Yes, the base system is installed. I used floppy images created from another computer from my debian disks. Incidently, the cdrom was working in dos before I installed, so there must be a way. Do you know how I can look at what files are now on my hard drive? Something akin to dir in dos.? The ls command is like dir. Use the -l switch to get full info. Use man to read docs about commands, for example man ls will bring up the manual pages for ls. There are many GREAT tutorials that will get you started with linux and unix from a DOS perspective. Search the web. I must go, my batteries are dying... John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: installed but now what? (CONTINUED)
Hi, You are much better off WITHOUT PCMCIA from an installation standpoint. I do not know the exact steps to follow to get the standard CDROMs to work though as my installation was much more complicated. In any case, it is probably a matter of using the modconf utility, which I believe gets you back into a screen that you saw during the install. From there, you must choose the correct set of drivers. I think the generic SCSI stuff says it's loaded by default, but you must also choose a few other SCSI related items like SCSI CDROM, and perhaps Mistumi support. It will tell you right away if it fails or suceeds, as it puts it into the running kernel. You may have to play around, selecting various SCSI things. I'm sure other people can elaborate, probably off the top of their head. Once you DO get the CDROM working, it will be accessed through a device such as /dev/scd0 or /dev/sr0 but probably will not work from /dev/cdrom until you set that up. (It is easy once you know what real device name it uses like the two listed above.) You can try the following commands, and see they work: mount /dev/scd0 /mnt or mount /dev/sr0 /mnt If you have the device name correct it will mount the CD. To unmount it, type: umount /mnt To actually install the good stuff using the CD, you use the deselect program. This will take a while to get comfortable with, but after a while it's great. The first thing you must do is select ACCESS (the default) and select MULTI-CD as the medium to use for installing. You then must specify the device name. It will mount it, and bring you to the next step UPDATE. This builds a database of the known packages, and their dependencies. The next step is SELECT. This is where you navigate through the list of installed packages (using up and down arrow) and + to select for install. There are several keystrokes you must learn but help is available. Of ALL things, this is the most complicated part of using linux in my opinion. And if you choose a package that needs others, it will bring you into a sub screen where you must select the dependency packages using + like before. Hitting return will either bring you back to the main list, or put you back into more dependency problems, repeat until RETURN works. I started by printing out several FAQs, and the dselect tutorial which is 9 pages. It is very well written. The dselect program again is a little confusing at first, but don't get frustrated. It is actually there to make life easier as you will realize later, when it makes sure you get everything you need. Unfortnately without a linux capable ISP you (and I) can't use the newer apt-get installation program. In any case this user-list has been EXTREMELY helpful to me, and you will find the people are a great bunch. I am trying to put a little back in form of support. John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
dselect not deselect, sorry
dselect NOT deselect, sorry... John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: installed but now what? (YOU MAY NOT NEED SCSI)
Hi Jeff, I just realized that I assumed you had a SCSI based CDROM. I have had SCSI on the brain lately trying to get mine working and that hurdle is over. If you have an IDE based CDROM (most likely) forget everything I said about SCSI. In any case try the MCDX support under the CDROM entry in modconf. It will probably work. I do not believe you need to worry about kernel building. By the way, I used UNIX for many years (engineer but NO SYSADMIN) And when I started playing with debian linux, I put in many 20+ hour sessions, and know where you are coming from... John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Thinkpad 560 - some info, a couple questions
Hi Marius, Thanks for the info. It appears you have a VERY old BIOS, as I downdraded mine recently from the IBM 1.1 system disk (I was previously using 1.2). My Power Management version is 1.35 (yours 1.25) My BIOS is 1.28 (yours 0.21) The Thinkpad Configuration software is the Windows based stuff in the uttp2 software from IBM. It gives you a GUI based configuration utility. It's tough to tell what stuff is in the BIOS and what stuff is in windows when you are using it, as it jumps to the standard windows screens for some things. I'm not even sure when I set the Use APM 1.0 compatibility toggle, if that is changing the BIOS, or changing how WINDOWS communcates WITH the BIOS. Very confusing. And, I not sure I would want to downgrade my BIOS to what you have, the version is REAL low, and I read some notes about the fixes in each version, and I'm scared! I doubt I could even find the kit for that BIOS. I posted some questiosn about getting the minimal potato packages to get the 2.2.1 kernal (and newer enlightenment/gnomw) running, but got no responses. John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
atari800 package - README.Debian has bad web address for ROMS
Hello, I've been trying to get the atari800 emulator working. The ROMS are not in the package for legal reasons. The link in the readme is bad, and although I found the xf25.zip elsewhere, the ROMs to not appear to work when I unpack them on WIN95, and move them to linux. (Maybe there's a linux unzip, I do not know). (?) --- In any case I wanted to point out the error in the package, and ask if anyone knows of where the ROMS can be obtained in TAR format.- I believe the emulator itself works, as I can reset and see the memory test working. I had this running on Solaris many years ago, and it is cool that it comes with debian! John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Thinkpad 560 - suspend/resume wierdness, tried MANY things...
Hello, I've been quiet, as I got sound and my ppa (imm) zip drive working! For the past couple days, I've tried everything I could find on the web the Thinkpad 560, and it's APM problems. I even downgraded my BIOS to the 1.1 version. I built many kernels, even 2.2.0 on the slink CD. (Which has the new ignore multiple sus/res cycles) I went back to 2.0.36 as everything else (CDROM,etc.) works OK with that kernel. The machine will suspend/resume OK (multiple times) when plugged in, but when running off battery, it always logs can't enter requested state when I close the display. The APM patch posted on one site appears to be already included in the 2.0.36 version of apm_bios.c from what I can determine by comparing the (old?) patch with the source. As it works PERFECTLY when on AC, I am still persuing this. I am wondering if perhaps there are other variables in this picture that I am overlooking. In other words, is apm_bios.c the only thing that I should have to muck with to fix this? Or could the apmd daemon be at fault possibly? I really want to get this working. ANY help or advise is welcome! John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: no /dev/dsp
Hello Lance, - I also get the error when trying to start ViaVoice. I have - a SoundBlaster PNP16. What is dsp? Is there a way I can - get the device /dsp on my system. I just went through this. Assuming that you have (made) a kernel with sound support, login as root and perform: cd /dev MAKEDEV audio That will create the audio devices for you, which include the dsp, mixer, etc. The dsp device is the Digital Signal Processor or Digital Sound Processor I believe. John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
begging for help, PCMCIA-SCSI-CDROM - I am close, but no cigar :(
Hello, I am on my knees begging for help at this point :) - :( I am trying to get my JVC XR-W2040 CDROM drive to work under debian linux as my other CDROM is very flaky even when it is sometimes seen at bootup. I think I am EXTREMELY close, and would really appreciated any help. I have been studying the PCMCIA-Howto, but can't get any farther on my own. I even re-installed 2.1 debian last night, to erase previous attempts and start clean. The system actually sees it as a JVC CDROM, on PCMCIA-SCSI adapter which is a new media bus toaster. It says it is at sr0, but something is going wrong, and it is not really seen. I am not sure if the statement about reseting the SCSI bus for the second half of retries is an error or not. ? I have included much information in this post in an attempt to allow someone with experience to perhaps see what is wrong. It may be as simple as trying to use IRQ3, when it might actually be using IRQ3 for a serial device. There is really only one serial port on my thinkpad 560, I have no idea why it tries to configure 2 of them. I have included below: (if more is needed I will comply ASAP) what I added to /etc/pcmcia/config cardctl config output (looks OK to me) cardctl ident output (looks OK to me) /var/run/stab (says both sockets are empty) /var/log/daemon.log (appears to actually load the SCSI modules) dmesg output (complete, notice the 2 serial ports, and the JVC CDROM at sr0) (from /etc/pcmcia/config) device aha152x_cs #jm class scsi module aha152x_cs class scsi module scsi/scsi_mod,scsi/sd_mod,scsi/sr_mod,aha152x_cs (cardctl config) Socket 0: Vcc = 5.0, Vpp1 = 0.0, Vpp2 = 0.0 Socket 1: Vcc = 5.0, Vpp1 = 0.0, Vpp2 = 0.0 Interface type is memory and I/O IRQ 3 is exclusive, level mode, enabled Function 0: Config register base = 0x0100 Option = 0x60 I/O window 1: 0x0100 to 0x011f, auto sized (cardctl ident) Socket 0: product info: Hayes, OPTIMA 336 + FAX for PCMCIA, 533PAM, V4.4 manfid: 0x010a, 0x function: 2 (serial) Socket 1: product info: New Media, SCSI, Bus Toaster manfid: 0x0057, 0xd302 function: 0 (multifunction) (/var/log/daemon.log) Oct 9 19:17:08 debian cardmgr[102]: starting, version is 3.0.5 Oct 9 19:17:08 debian cardmgr[102]: watching 2 sockets Oct 9 19:17:08 debian cardmgr[102]: initializing socket 1 Oct 9 19:17:08 debian cardmgr[102]: socket 1: New Media Bus Toaster SCSI Oct 9 19:17:08 debian kerneld: started, pid=109, qid=0 Oct 9 19:17:08 debian cardmgr[102]: executing: 'insmod /lib/modules/2.0.36/scsi/scsi_mod.o' Oct 9 19:17:08 debian cardmgr[102]: executing: 'insmod /lib/modules/2.0.36/scsi/sd_mod.o' Oct 9 19:17:08 debian cardmgr[102]: executing: 'insmod /lib/modules/2.0.36/scsi/sr_mod.o' Oct 9 19:17:09 debian cardmgr[102]: executing: 'insmod /lib/modules/2.0.36/pcmcia/aha152x_cs.o' (dmesg output) Memory: sized by int13 088h Console: 16 point font, 400 scans Console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual console (max 63) pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory structure at 0x000fd870 pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory entry at 0xfd880 pcibios_init : PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd8c0 Probing PCI hardware. Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 53.04 BogoMIPS Memory: 22748k/24576k available (728k kernel code, 384k reserved, 716k data) Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0 NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035. Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034 IP Protocols: IGMP, ICMP, UDP, TCP VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_5.6.0 initialized Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting. Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok. Intel Pentium with F0 0F bug - workaround enabled. alias mapping IDT readonly ... ... done Linux version 2.0.36 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.3) #1 Sun Feb 21 18:29:09 EST 1999 Starting kswapd v 1.4.2.2 Real Time Clock Driver v1.09 tpqic02: Runtime config, $Revision: 0.4.1.5 $, $Date: 1994/10/29 02:46:13 $ tpqic02: DMA buffers: 20 blocks, at address 0x1f0400 (0x1f037c) Ramdisk driver initialized : 16 ramdisks of 4096K size loop: registered device at major 7 hda: IBM-DTNA-22110, 2016MB w/96kB Cache, CHS=1024/64/63 ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306 md driver 0.36.3 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8 Partition check: hda: hda1 hda2 hda5 hda6 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Adding Swap: 50364k swap-space (priority -1) Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A Linux PCMCIA Card Services 3.0.5 kernel build: 2.0.36 unknown options: [pci] [cardbus] Intel PCIC probe: Cirrus PD6729 PCI at port 0x3e0 ofs 0x00, 2 sockets host opts [0]: [ring] [1/6/8] [1/20/8] host opts [1]: [ring] [1/6/8] [1/20/8] ISA irqs (default) = 3,4,5,7,9,10,11,12 status change on irq 11 cs: IO port probe 0x1000-0x17ff: excluding 0x15e8-0x15ef cs: IO port probe
begging.. .(Excluded IRQ3, using IRQ9 now, but still not OK)
Hello, While waiting for my post to show up, I digged a little deeper, and found that irq3 was not being excluded by PCMCIA. I excluded IRQ3 and IRQ5 (which it picked up sometimes, but states it is wrong) and it now uses IRQ9 like it does when running windows 95. The dmesg output is included below, and looks better, but I can still not access the /dev/sr0 device, it says the special device does not exist when I try mount /dev/sr0 /mnt. And, according to /var/run/stab, both sockets are empty. Am I missing something simple? Am I close? (dmesg output) Memory: sized by int13 088h Console: 16 point font, 400 scans Console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual console (max 63) pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory structure at 0x000fd870 pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory entry at 0xfd880 pcibios_init : PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd8c0 Probing PCI hardware. Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 53.04 BogoMIPS Memory: 22748k/24576k available (728k kernel code, 384k reserved, 716k data) Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0 NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035. Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034 IP Protocols: IGMP, ICMP, UDP, TCP VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_5.6.0 initialized Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting. Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok. Intel Pentium with F0 0F bug - workaround enabled. alias mapping IDT readonly ... ... done Linux version 2.0.36 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.3) #1 Sun Feb 21 18:29:09 EST 1999 Starting kswapd v 1.4.2.2 Real Time Clock Driver v1.09 tpqic02: Runtime config, $Revision: 0.4.1.5 $, $Date: 1994/10/29 02:46:13 $ tpqic02: DMA buffers: 20 blocks, at address 0x1f0400 (0x1f037c) Ramdisk driver initialized : 16 ramdisks of 4096K size loop: registered device at major 7 hda: IBM-DTNA-22110, 2016MB w/96kB Cache, CHS=1024/64/63 ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306 md driver 0.36.3 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8 Partition check: hda: hda1 hda2 hda5 hda6 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Adding Swap: 50364k swap-space (priority -1) Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A Linux PCMCIA Card Services 3.0.5 kernel build: 2.0.36 unknown options: [pci] [cardbus] Intel PCIC probe: Cirrus PD6729 PCI at port 0x3e0 ofs 0x00, 2 sockets host opts [0]: [ring] [1/6/8] [1/20/8] host opts [1]: [ring] [1/6/8] [1/20/8] ISA irqs (default) = 3,4,5,7,9,10,11,12 status change on irq 11 cs: IO port probe 0x1000-0x17ff: excluding 0x15e8-0x15ef cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x220-0x22f 0x268-0x26f 0x330-0x337 0x388-0x38f 0x3b8-0x3e7 0x4d0-0x4d7 cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean. cs: memory probe 0x0d-0x0d: clean. aha152x: processing commandline: ok aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 controller(s) aha152x0: vital data: PORTBASE=0x100, IRQ=9, SCSI ID=7, reconnect=enabled, parity=enabled, synchronous=disabled, delay=100, extended translation=disabled aha152x: trying software interrupt, ok. scsi0 : Adaptec 152x SCSI driver; $Revision: 1.18 $ scsi : 1 host. Vendor: JVC Model: XR-W2040 Rev: 1.12 Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0 scsi0 channel 0 : resetting for second half of retries. SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0. PS/2 auxiliary pointing device detected -- driver installed. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
PCMCIA-SCSI-CDROM - Requested xconsole info
Hello (and Thanks for continued help), I have included the xconsole output, when I insert the card after the system is up. I also included what is output when I pulled out the card, as it notes that the SW INT is set and Why?. I also made the /dev/sr0 device from /dev with: mkmod -m 777 sr0 b11 1 (this is what went to xconsole when I put in the card) Oct 10 11:06:37 debian cardmgr[101]: socket 1: New Media Bus Toaster SCSI Oct 10 11:06:37 debian kernel: cs: memory probe 0x0d-0x0d: clean. Oct 10 11:06:37 debian cardmgr[101]: executing: 'insmod /lib/modules/2.0.36/scsi/scsi_mod.o' Oct 10 11:06:37 debian cardmgr[101]: executing: 'insmod /lib/modules/2.0.36/scsi/sd_mod.o' Oct 10 11:06:37 debian cardmgr[101]: executing: 'insmod /lib/modules/2.0.36/scsi/sr_mod.o' Oct 10 11:06:37 debian cardmgr[101]: executing: 'insmod /lib/modules/2.0.36/pcmcia/aha152x_cs.o' Oct 10 11:06:39 debian kernel: aha152x: processing commandline: ok Oct 10 11:06:39 debian kernel: aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 controller(s) Oct 10 11:06:39 debian kernel: aha152x0: vital data: PORTBASE=0x100, IRQ=9, SCSI ID=7, reconnect=enabled, parity=enabled, synchronous=disabled, delay=100, extended translation=disabled Oct 10 11:06:39 debian kernel: aha152x: trying software interrupt, ok. Oct 10 11:06:39 debian kernel: scsi0 : Adaptec 152x SCSI driver; $Revision: 1.18 $ Oct 10 11:06:39 debian kernel: scsi : 1 host. Oct 10 11:06:42 debian kernel: Vendor: JVC Model: XR-W2040 Rev: 1.12 Oct 10 11:06:42 debian kernel: Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Oct 10 11:06:42 debian kernel: Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0 Oct 10 11:06:42 debian kernel: scsi0 channel 0 : resetting for second half of retries. Oct 10 11:06:42 debian kernel: SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0. (when I removed card later, I saw) Oct 10 11:22:43 debian kernel: aha152x: SWINT is set! Why? Oct 10 11:22:43 debian kernel: QUEUE STATUS: Oct 10 11:22:43 debian kernel: issue_SC: Oct 10 11:22:43 debian kernel: current_SC: Oct 10 11:22:43 debian kernel: none Oct 10 11:22:43 debian kernel: disconnected_SC: Oct 10 11:22:43 debian kernel: enabled interrupts (ENSELDO ENSELDI ENSELINGO ENSWRAP ENSDONE ENSPIORDY ENDMADONE ENSELTIMO ENATNTARG ENPHASEMIS ENBUSFREE ENSCSIPERR ENPHASECHG ENREQINIT ) Oct 10 11:22:43 debian kernel: Device busy??? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
:( latest info (tried sym53c500_cs) with bus toaster
Hello, I grabbed pcmcia-cs-3.0.14 and the sym53c500 driver. It did not even state the detection of the JVC CDROM, but the socket info appeared correctly in /var/run/stab (??) It says 1994 on the back of the box for the New Media Bus Toaster, so I think (?) it may be the older card. Is there anything else I can try? Relevent info below: (/var/run/stab) Socket 0: Serial or Modem 0 serial serial_cs 0 ttyS2 4 66 Socket 1: New Media Bus Toaster SCSI (end of /var/log/daemon.log) Oct 10 16:30:45 debian cardmgr[103]: initializing socket 1 Oct 10 16:30:45 debian cardmgr[103]: socket 1: New Media Bus Toaster SCSI Oct 10 16:30:46 debian cardmgr[103]: executing: 'insmod /lib/modules/2.0.36/scsi/scsi_mod.o' Oct 10 16:30:46 debian cardmgr[103]: executing: 'insmod /lib/modules/2.0.36/scsi/sd_mod.o' Oct 10 16:30:46 debian cardmgr[103]: executing: 'insmod /lib/modules/2.0.36/scsi/sr_mod.o' Oct 10 16:30:46 debian cardmgr[103]: executing: 'insmod /lib/modules/2.0.36/pcmcia/sym53c500_cs.o' Oct 10 16:30:47 debian cardmgr[103]: get dev info on socket 1 failed: Resource temporarily unavailable __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
CDROM worked once (surprise) can't get it to work again!
Hello, A few minutes ago, I happened to boot up linux with my H45 quickcd attached (pcmcia) to my IBM Thinkpad 560. I was surprised to see the /dev/hdc show up using IRQ3 as attempts in the past never worked. It appears that the CDROM takes a second or two to spin up, and something times out before it is recognized. This time however I was able to mount /dev/hdc as /mnt and even use deselect to install some files from the Debian 2.1 CD! I have combed the CDROM howto, but can't find anything pertaining to adding a command somewhere to increase the timeout(s) during bootup. Does anyone know how to do this? I was REALLY AMAZED that this worked, and I have booted several times since tonight and it just fails over and over again. I think the timeout is just a wee bit to short. Again this is a PCMCIA-based H45 QuickCD. I believe I am running with the vanilla 2.0.36 kernel, but I can doublecheck if needed. Many thanks for any info on this timeout issue... John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CDROM worked once (surprise) can't get it to work again!
Hi, I had this problem with my CDROM way back in kernel 1.2 (1995). I fixed it by increasing the time-out settings in the BIOS. It also helped to move it to hdb, thus on the first controller, but I am not exactly sure why. But increasing the BIOS settings worked more consistently. I have not had the problem since, so I do not know of a more recent fix. This is a PCMCIA-based CDROM, so I think my situation is different. Right after the PCMCIA stuff starts, the drive starts to spin up, I get an ide_cs error about 1 second later. Since it did work once, I now have hope. I am indeed running the vanilla 2.0.36 kernel from the debian 2.1 CD. Again, I appreciate ANY advice on how to increase the timeout, or a statement that says it can't be done... John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
dmesg output for PCMCIA CDROM problem...
Hi, I have included the dmesg output, showing exactly what is happening when the CDROM times out during boot. Since this worked once, I am hoping that something stands out, and someonce can advise me on how to increase the timeout. Again this is a H45 QuickCD. When it did work once, it worked on IR3 as /dev/hdc as listed in the output deom the failed attempts. Any advice would be appreciated, John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
dmesg output for PCMCIA CDROM problem...
Hi, I have included the dmesg output, showing exactly what is happening when the CDROM times out during boot. Since this worked once, I am hoping that something stands out, and someonce can advise me on how to increase the timeout. Again this is a H45 QuickCD. When it did work once, it worked on IR3 as /dev/hdc as listed in the output deom the failed attempts. Any advice would be appreciated, John -- begin dmesg output - Memory: sized by int13 088h Console: 16 point font, 400 scans Console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual console (max 63) pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory structure at 0x000fd870 pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory entry at 0xfd880 pcibios_init : PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd8c0 Probing PCI hardware. Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 53.04 BogoMIPS Memory: 22136k/24576k available (1136k kernel code, 384k reserved, 920k data) Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0 NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035. Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034 IP Protocols: IGMP, ICMP, UDP, TCP VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_5.6.0 initialized Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting. Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok. Intel Pentium with F0 0F bug - workaround enabled. alias mapping IDT readonly ... ... done Linux version 2.0.36 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.3) #2 Sun Feb 21 15:55:27 EST 1999 Starting kswapd v 1.4.2.2 Real Time Clock Driver v1.09 tpqic02: Runtime config, $Revision: 0.4.1.5 $, $Date: 1994/10/29 02:46:13 $ tpqic02: DMA buffers: 20 blocks, at address 0x282600 (0x28254c) Ramdisk driver initialized : 16 ramdisks of 4096K size loop: registered device at major 7 hda: IBM-DTNA-22110, 2016MB w/96kB Cache, CHS=1024/64/63 ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306 md driver 0.36.3 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8 Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card! scsi : 0 hosts. scsi : detected total. Partition check: hda: hda1 hda2 hda5 hda6 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Adding Swap: 50364k swap-space (priority -1) PS/2 auxiliary pointing device detected -- driver installed. lp0 at 0x03bc, (polling) Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A Linux PCMCIA Card Services 3.0.5 kernel build: 2.0.36 unknown options: [pci] [cardbus] Intel PCIC probe: Cirrus PD6729 PCI at port 0x3e0 ofs 0x00, 2 sockets host opts [0]: [ring] [1/6/8] [1/20/8] host opts [1]: [ring] [1/6/8] [1/20/8] ISA irqs (default) = 3,4,5,7,9,10,11,12 status change on irq 11 cs: IO port probe 0x1000-0x17ff: excluding 0x15e8-0x15ef cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x220-0x22f 0x268-0x26f 0x330-0x337 0x388-0x38f 0x4d0-0x4d7 cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean. cs: memory probe 0x0d-0x0d: clean. hdc: no response (status = 0x80), resetting drive ide_cs: ide_register() at 0x170 0x376, irq 3 failed __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
FYI - PCMCIA-CDROM timeout problem solved, details
Hello, After more reading and experimenting, I was able to get the CDROM to be seen by adding the following command to the cdrom.opts file in /etc/pcmcia CORE_OPTS=unreset_delay=1000 My next task is to get my ppa zip drive to work, so I can start backing up my system! John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Nope, PCMCIA-CDROM still not seen at boot most of time
Hi, I thought I had resolved the problem by adding the line CORE_OPTS=unreset_delay=1000 to /etc/pcmcia/cdrom.opts But on next 4 or 5 reboots it was not seen. I even increased the timeout to 2000 and 4000, but no luck. I welcome any and all advise. John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
fvwm/fvwm2 corrupts screen, other wms don't? X config problem?
Hi, I noticed that when running fvwm2 (or fvwm) after a few window drags, the screen gets corrupted. The wierd thing is that I do not see this problem when using wmaker at all. Has anyone else ever seen this problem? If so, any clues would be helpful. Perhaps fvwm/2 exercises the X Server more than the other WMs, and I my XF86Config isn't as correct as I thought it was? Everything else (even Enlightenment) appears to work OK. Strange... John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Where do I find *ALL* steps to use newly built kernels?
Hi, I have been running the 2.1 debian release (well) on my TP 560 for a week or so. I have delved into building my own custom kernel, to get around APM problems, add sound, SCSI etc. I have read the kernel howtos, and read/printed the various things under /usr/linux/src that apply to the components I wish to get going. My latest attempts have been with the kernel-source-2.2.1_2.2.1-1.deb sources. I figured I'd try adding one piece at a time. My first attempt made APM (suspend/resume) work once only. Other attemps got my mic linked to my speaker, but no /dev/mixer or /dev/audio devices. SO, I want to start again from scratch. When I make bzdisk and boot, I think it is using the existing conf.modules which is not compatible with the newly built kernels. I'm hoping that there is some material out there I can read, which explains EVERYTHING I have to do. I suspect that I missing several key steps, and do not know where else to look. I am very willing to put the time in to get things right, I figure this time I will start with SOUND, then go onto the PCMCIA, SCSI, APM, etc.., adding one thing at a time. ANY suggestions, pointers to more in-depth docs, etc, would be AWESOME Many thanks, John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
for what it's worth (re: To the Debian Project...)
Hi, I have only recently begun to play with linux, and have no knowledge of how other distributions are setup. I am also not familiar with the history or overall goals of debian. I read great things about debian, and chose it, not knowing what to expect. Perhaps the platform I am using (Thinkpad 560) is making things overly complex, and my recent frustrations are to be expected, and are warranted. If anybody is touting this as an out of the box solution, then they must have installed it on a more standard PC or other platform, and thus achieved success without hassles. I thought it would be much easier to get linux up and running taking advantage of the hardware in my machine. I have been able to get it running in the last few weeks, with X Windows, and running quite well. As my CDROM (PCMCIA-based) could not be seen, it took a LOT of mucking around and I even trashed my system many times. Over the last few days I have taken on the challenge of trying to get APM, SOUND, and SCSI support, with nothing but troubles and confusion. As much as I hate to admit this, Windows 95 installed very easily. If nothing else, MS has done great in this area. I think a program that could run under Win95/98 or even DOS, that would gather information about the hardware in a machine, and generate a file that linux could take advantage of during installation would be of great value. Perhaps one exists, but I am not aware. I am still determined to get debian linux running on this machine, and I realize a certain amount of learning and patience is required. I will only have the luxury of being a linux newbie for a short time, and while I have this perspective I am passing on my feelings. I have been using UNIX variants for many years, but have never needed to aquire the sysadmin skills until now. I hope my opinions are of some value. I really appreciate the fact that this software can be offered free, and respect and admire the efforts of everyone that made it possible. John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
I pieced together an XF86Config. Rock-solid, but I'm scared!
Hello, As some of you, I have recently installed debian 2.1 on my Thinkpad 560. I have tried MANY of the XF86Config files on the net, but I could not arrive at one that worked flicker-free on my 800x600 dual scan screen. Light grays would have wavy lines, etc. SO, I have pieced together one that works rock solid, but I am not sure how to tell if the setting will damage my video card or display. The IBM 560 Technical Reference does not mention any frequency specs for the LCD, only external monitor usage. So, I started playing around. One modeline setting I tried was flicker free, but unless I used the no_accel option, it would leave a couple dots wrong on the screen. But when I used the no_accel option it would REALLY slow it down. The one I am using now, I put together after many trials and errors, using a mix of frequencies works GREAT, but I am a little scared that I might damage my screen. Is there a definative way to find out? This is what I am most worried about. I believe the 28.32 was changed from 40.0... Modeline 800x60028.32 800 848 1000 1056 600 605 607 633 +hsync +vsync Many thanks for any info. By the way Eterm is REALLY COOL! John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
picture as background in xterm or other?
Hi, It doesn't appear that xterm allows this from what I can find. I tried gnome-terminal. It allows a picture to be placed, but when I do this the display gets all messed up when it needs to scroll. I would be curious to know if this is a problem with MY system, or everyone's. I would also appreciate any pointers to other xterm-like apps that provide this functionality! Thanks, John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
XF86 3.3.5 and debian - what is frame_register.rpm - is it needed?
Hello, I noticed this problem ALSO posted at comp.windows.x.i386linux I just installed XF86 3.3.5 to use on debian 2.1, but the postinstall script gives an error regarding undefined symbol register_frame. I noticed a .rpm file in the FTP dir named frame_register There is no mention of this in the release notes and install instructions. IS THIS REQUIRED ON DEBIAN? startx fails right away with execv Thanks John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Got TP-560 to work in 800x600 256 colors! (with Debian 2.1 included X)
Hello, Many thanks to all those who helped. I am now up and running 2.1 debian, using full 800x600 and 256 colors on my Thinkpad 560. I am using the X that comes with 2.1, and it's fine. It took a lot of playing around, but I'm there. Sometime I will resume trying to get either external CDROM to work, but for now I have a lot of cool things to check out. Proud to be running debian Linux, John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Thinkpad 560, got debian 2.1 up, need to replace XF86 to get 800X600 ???
Hello, Yesterday I got the distribution up, after coping the CD #1 over to my C: in Win95, and copying the files in each binary-all that ral, replacing the 0K ones in binary-i386 to satisfy install. I was underway, and did not see the post about the dselect overrides, but my strategy worked. I have read many pages about XFree86, and the Thinkpad 560, but I can't get 800x600. I suspect that I must upgrade to a LATER XF86. I even built the set_DSTN_size program, but when I run it, it mentions a note that it doesn't work on 3.3.2A (I think). I think the XF86 that I have up from the CD is 3.3.2.3a. Does it make sense for me to try to go right to 3.3.5 ?? Again this is a 800x600, dual scan 560. Also, I have never been able to use the CTRL-ALT-PLUS_ON_KEYPAD and CTRL-ALT-MINUS_ON_KEYPAD as even on Win95 I can't get the numeric keypad keys to work. (They are overlayed on the regular keyboard, (U=4, I=5, O=6, etc). Anyway, if I should avoid upgrading to 3.3.5, or I am missing something, I would appreciate any information. Thanks, John thing __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Has ANYONE installed from vfat copied distributuon, HOW?
Hello, I recently copied the entire 2.1 CD to c:\debiancd using windows 95, to avoid CDROM problems, and am now persuing a hard disk based install. It appears that the install expects symbolic links to work. I poked around and these links appear to be 0 length files, even under Windows 95. HAS ANYONE EVER INSTALLED PACKAGES FROM A VFAT FILE SYSTEM such as this? Can I somehow hack up the directories to simulate the links? Or better, a utility of some sort? Many Thanks for any information John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
IBM Thinkpad 560 - Nothing but problems installing (I got CDs today)
Hi, I got the debian 2.1 CDs today. I got peanut linux somewhat working over the last few days, saw KDE, really cool. I have been having NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS INSTALLING debian 2.1 today/tonight. No matter what I do, it won't see my CDROM during the install. It says Oh, I see you have a /dev/cdrom, but it doesn't see the darn thing. I have the H45 QuickCD PCMCIA version. When I boot up from /hda5 the base system comes up, and the darn CD spins up for a couple seconds (?) and mentioned that tray error. I can't understand how it sees the CD. During the install, the PCMCIA config fails regarding an /sbin/cardmgr error. I have been able to make rescue/driver disks OK. I even got the base system installed, by copying the stuff over to my C: drive using windows 95. I got the base system running OK. I got it to boot from /dev/hda2 which contains /dev/hda5 (native linux) and /dev/hda6 (swap). I chose Standard Development System so as to avoid the deselect selecting stuff. I do not know how to get back to this, so every time I try, I have been starting from scratch. I wish I knew how to get to the point where it offers those choices again. I also tried copying the WHOLE CD (#1) to c:/debian. It can see a couple things like dists/slink/main but refuses to see where the contib and local stuff is. I WANT TO TRY AGAIN. IS THERE ANYTHING SPECIAL I HAVE TO DO TO USE THIS H45 QUICKCD? I think it's messing up because it is spun down until needed, and times out(?). Where do I go from here. I do not mind starting from scratch. I have already wiped out Windows95, and re-installed it about a dozen times in the last week or so, learning about how to correctly use fdisk (on both OSes). It takes me several hours each time, to get back, and back on the net. Help anyone? Determined John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: IBM Thinkpad 560 - Nothing but problems installing (I got CD
Hi, Yes, I was under the impression that I had to use the tecra versions of rescue and drivers. This got me up and running with the base system. I will try ANYTHING though if you think this might be effecting the CDROM access. John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
IBM Thinkpad 560 - Will this CDROM and adapter be better to try?
Hi, I also have a JVC SCI CDROM (reader/writer) that I use with a PCMCIA Bus Toaster SCSI-adapter, which is MUCH more reliable (at least on Windows 95) as it stays spun up, and hardly ever gets an error like the H45 Quick CD. The reason I haven't tried this yet is that no one responded to my post a while back. ALSO, I noticed the message about the Thinkpad and modem. I have a Hayes Optima 336 data/fax card. I was hoping to use this on linux when I get a PPP ISP and get off AOL. Am I to understand that this won't work on linux on a THinkpad 560? John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
IBM Thinkpad 560, tried JVC drive, can't install BUT SEEN AT BOOTUP
Hi, I just tried everything again from scratch. This time I used the JVC SCSI CDROM, with the New Media Bus Toaster PCMCIA-SCSI card. Again, I could not use the CDROM for install. I configured just about all of the SCSI device drivers, and PCMCIA controller. Now when I boot, I see some info about the JVC drive though: It mentions the aha152x adapter BIOS test passes, detected 1 contoller It Identifies the JVC correctly as an XR-W2040. IRQ=3 SCSI ID=7 Detected SCSI CD-ROM at scsi0 channel0 ID3 LUN0 I can't mount /dev/cdrom (or even /dev/hda1) complains about no fstab entry. The peanut linux I had running would at least allow me to mount C: by mount -t msdos /dev/hda1 /DOS. 2 questions: Is there a way I can get back to where I choose Standard Development packages ? Is there a way to mount /dev/hda1 and /dev/cdrom without an fstab entry? If not, what is the syntax of the fstab entry I should add? Thanks for any help, John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
IBM Thinkpad 560, hard disk install problems too
Hello, I'm giving up for now on a CDROM based install. It never lets me successfully install the mcd module, it complains about a device or resource busy. Perhaps I need to supply command line parameters, but anyway I'm giving up for now. HARD DISK INSTALL I used Windows95 to copy the contents of the debian 2.1 CD to a directory named c:\debiancd. I started the install from scratch (boot with tecra rescue) (supply rescue, drivers) and configured the devices for (mouse, serial, lp) I added support for vfat, as many SCSIs as it would let me. The SCSI syms would not work, said it couldn't find the version it was compiled for, but that might be OK. ANYWAY, I install the base system OK from hard disk ( /dev/hda1 ) I again select the Standard Development, and I use the access method hard disk. It asks me for the directories, and I provide the top level debiancd/dists/slink (I think) and it continues asking me for contrib (I think I got past this). When it actually starts to install the first package dpkg-perl it get an unexpected enf of file in version number in /var/lib/dpcks/methods/mnt/debiancd/dists/slink/main/binary-i386/devel/dpkg (I can't read my scribbles fully to continue) QUESTION, Is it possible to install this way? I mean copying the entire CD to hardisk? I see that the links are setup to use slink as stable, etc... John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
alternative to getting packages file by file?
Hello, Although I have been able to get the base 2.1 system up and running, I am now trying to download what I need to get X Windows, and its dependency packages, and then a few clients (for now) running. In the relnotes9.html, the required files are listed, but mention tared sets such as Xbin.tgz, etc. All I can find on the debian ftp sites are the individual files. Are sets available anywhere? Or at least a description of what was in Xbin.tgz? Many Thanks in advance, John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
(More info about my setup) Trying to get X11 and other packages in full
Hello Folks, I got a couple requests for more information about how I am trying to set things up, and what I did to get this far. I gave up on trying to use 1.3, as it would crash shortly after Loading Linux., even when I copied the entire debian directory from the 1997 Boot Magazine to C:, and tried loadlin. This at least told me that the floppy was not causing the problems. I have a Windows 95 system on C: on my Thinkpad 560. Based on the (great) advice I got yesterday, the tecra floppies for the rescue and drives disk worked OK. I grabbed the 9Meg base .tgz file (using AOL, my only ISP now) put it on C:, and after installing rescue and drivers from floppy, installed the base from the harddisk. I tried using the 1.3 CD packages with the 2.1 kernel several times today, but could not get things to work. So I reinstalled 2.1 again as mentioned above. I'm not sure if it is possible to use the 1.3 packages with 2.1, so I am assuming it can't be done unless I hear otherwise. As I only have AOL as an ISP since I left my job, and read in a newsgroup that there is no linux AOL client, I figure I will have to use Windows 95 to download the files to C:, then mount that MSDOS filesystem under linux as my access method as above. I am not sure if I will even be able to use a CD directly under linux, as I have an H45 QuickCD as one CDROM device, and the other is a JVC SCSI CD-R/RW that I use with a New Media Bus Toaster SCSI adapter. A friend of is going to loan me a debian CD sometime next week, so I won't actually know for a while. I figured I could download all the packages that I need to run bare X Windows, and then use dselect once I have them on hard disk. From what I have been reading, it appears that 2.1 has the X Windows reorganization, so the whole darn thing doesn't have to be downloaded when some of it may not be needed. This is a good thing, for most, but not me! Again, I really appreciate your help, John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
H45 QuickCD PCMCIA CDROM and/or JVC SCSI via Bus Toaster ?
Hello, I am wondering if anyone has experiences (good or bad) with using either of these CDROM devices under debian. I have the opportunity to borrow the debian (or other dists) CD next week, and want to make sure it is possible to use these devices to install. When I got the base system up on the Thinkpad-560, the QuickCD spun up and down a few times, and spit out messages ever few seconds when spun down. Perhaps there is a way to get it to stay spun up? I get the impression that linux expects it that way. I think I am getting over my head trying to find and download (via modem and AOL) the debian packages I need to get an X-Windows system up and running. BTW, I am grabbing peanut, and should have it all in a few hours, so I can at least see how this machine performs with X Windows, and to satisfy my linux curiosities until I can get debian. Many thanks in advance for any good/bad news/info, John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
IBM Thinkpad 560 install problem (debian 1.3)
Hello, I have been reading much information about the Thinkpad 560 and linux, but have not come across anything that relates to MY problem. This is my first attempt to install linux ever. I only have a 1.3 debian distribution on CD, from Boot magazine, from 1996. It may be that this version will never run on my system, or perhaps someone out there can help me. The kernel is 2.0.29_2.0.29-7 When I boot from the rescue disk to perform the install, I type linux floppy=thinkpad at the boot: prompt. I then see: Loading root.bin. (I am not sure how many dots) Loading linux Then the system resets, just as if I turned it off and on. Relevent system info is: BIOS version 04/09/98-IE0ET44 BIOS Part number 97H4075 Machine type-Model 264010U Any and all help is greatly appreciated, I really want to run linux! I have a 2.1G drive, that I partitioned with DOS fdisk, to have 1G, 900M, and 112M. I hope to leave Windows95 on the 1G (for now) put linux on the 900M, and it's swap on the 112M, if that makes sense. Many Thanks in advance, John Miskinis __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
