enlightement on debian 2.0 hamm cd?
I am installing Debian 2.0 (hamm) from cd, but I don't see the Enlightenment package on there... Am I just missing it, or was I mistaken in thinking it was on there? TIA! -Kendrick
Re: Wintel CD burner apps to create Debian CDs?
Thanks for the reply Sorry for the delay in response here, but I've been _very_ busy... Well, I have Adaptec Easy CD Pro which can write ISO image files to CD, but I thought _that_ wouldn't work either because it doesn't support the Rock Ridge Extensions (read from a previous post to debian-users...) So you're saying that the image files will be burned OK from an NT box? Excellent... I'm going to be doing some serious Debian Installing! :) Thanks! -Kendrick Forget trying to get the files themselves... It's not the burner or software that's the problem. It's the OS. WinXX doesn't support symbolic links - of which the Debian FTP trees are full of Instead, get some software (Adaptec CD Creator Deluxe) that will write ISO images to disc and then either download the Official Debian CD Set images and burn them, or use mkisofs on a Linux box to create your own images from a local mirror. (Then, move the image to your Winbloze box and burn them there. This is what I do - seeing as (at work) I have a burner that is unsupported by Linux - and, for political reasons has to remain with a Winbloze box, anyways)
Wintel CD burner apps to create Debian CDs?
The last time I checked there was no such thing... Just curious if there is now a program for an NT/95 machine which will correctly burn the Debian 2.0 CD images (ISO-9660 + RRE, IIRC...). I just got a nice new box with some actual horsepower! (PII-300). If so, then I'd be willing to make as many as I could... TIA, Kendrick -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Follow-up: RE: Linux/WinNT dual booting (an idea...)
FWIW, I went ahead and tried the loadlin deal from the DOS config.sys multi-boot and it worked flawlessly. I used the defaults from the manual.txt as examples, and copied my linux kernel from my floppy boot diskette for the boot image. The line is: shell=c:\loadlin\loadlin.exe c:\loadlin\linux root=/dev/hdd1 ro vga=ask I'll try the loading from the NT boot menu directly after I Install NT5 beta 2 since I removed beta 1, as most of it doesn't work... Now to upgrade to Debian 2.0 :) Regards, Kendrick -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Linux/WinNT dual booting (an idea...)
I'm not sure if my plan will work, but hopefully I'll find out this weekend. Feel free to save me the trouble if someone else has already tried this and it doesn't work... Actually I just realized that I may not have time this weekend... but anyway... My first hard drive has DOS and Win98 on it. My second drive had NT5 on it. My third drive has the Debian. NT must control the boot sector on the first drive, so I'm making win98 the default startup and setting it to present menu always. From there I can F4 or choose to boot to DOS which will prompt me with the DOS multi-config menu where I will choose either DOS or to run loadlin and boot linux. With the exception of using the loadlin, all the other parts have been done and work fine to let me into the other 3 OS... Regards, Kendrick -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
upgrading to hamm from pre-bo
I have one box that is still Debian 1.2, can I upgrade to hamm directly, or should I go to bo first? Unfortunately this is not a test machine, so I can't afford to have it crashed. What's the best route for something like this? Which brings me to another question... what do I use in dselect for the locations of the hamm distro? Apparently what I chose was incorrect, and all my new packages were not found, then you can imagine what happened to the system after it uninstalled the old packages :( I think I will start with just a base install of 1.3 on my box at home... will that work with the update script on the website, or do I need additional packages/libs/etc? TIA for any help as always! Regards, Kendrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Need a little help
Hello :) I've been off this list and out of the Debian loop for a while, but I'm starting to get back into it now. I'm getting a system set up at the house and have just a few (hopefully quick) questions: 1) What are the best websites for info on how to do such-and-such with Debian Linux? 2) Where do I get the Enlightenment X-Windows package that looks so cool? 3) What do I need to use my 3Com Impact IQ ISDN TA for dialup PPP access to my ISP? 4) How do I set up my Creative SB16 soundcard to work under Linux? As these are pretty basic-sounding questions, a good answer to #1 may be all I need :) I've been running Debian 1.3 for a while now, and recently destroyed it trying to upgrade to the frozen code. No worries, though... I'll just reinstall the base stuff from CD and start over :) Thanks in advance for any help! Regards, Kendrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Need a little help
Hello :) I've been off this list and out of the Debian loop for a while, but I'm starting to get back into it now. I'm getting a system set up at the house and have just a few (hopefully quick) questions: 1) What are the best websites for info on how to do such-and-such with Debian Linux? 2) Where do I get the Enlightenment X-Windows package that looks so cool? 3) What do I need to use my 3Com Impact IQ ISDN TA for dialup PPP access to my ISP? 4) How do I set up my Creative SB16 soundcard to work under Linux? 5) I have 36MB RAM on my system, how much of a swap partition do I need, if any? As these are pretty basic-sounding questions, a good answer to #1 may be all I need :) I've been running Debian 1.3 for a while now, and recently destroyed it trying to upgrade to the frozen code. No worries, though... I'll just reinstall the base stuff from CD and start over :) Thanks in advance for any help! Regards, Kendrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian Security packages?
Hello :) I have looked but not found many Debian packages of popular security programs such as crack, lsof, cops, iss, satan, swatch, etc. I did find tripwire on the debian site, though. Are these kept somewhere else, or do they not exist? Just wondering if I should go ahead an install the non-package versions I already have... I'd rather have the packages, of course :) Many thanks, Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian Security packages?
Be happy to make them... what all is involved? Do I have to have permission of the author or anything weird like that? Please point me in the direction oif whatever I need to get started. Thanks, Kendrick At 02:58 PM 5/22/97 +, Christian Hudon wrote: On May 22, Kendrick Myatt wrote Hello :) I have looked but not found many Debian packages of popular security programs such as crack, lsof, cops, iss, satan, swatch, etc. I did find tripwire on the debian site, though. Are these kept somewhere else, or do they not exist? Just wondering if I should go ahead an install the non-package versions I already have... I'd rather have the packages, of course :) We have lsof, qcrack, courtney and tripwire... all in the main distribution I think. As far as I know we don't have the others packaged up... It'd be great if you could package a few of them for Debian, since you're interested in them. Christian Attachment Converted: D:\Users\myattk\Eudora\download\Re Debian Security packages1 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Script Files
At 06:29 PM 3/5/97 -0600, Pete Poff wrote: Hi, I have installed just base of Debian. I have not added any extra software. But I have added Envy 1.0 which is a type of mud. I'm trying to run it and to start it, I have to run the startup script. I'm getting all kinds of errors when I running it. Just to make sure I'm doing it right, I type '. startup' right? Also if someone could take a look at the startup file I have attached and maybe tell me whats is wrong, it would really make my day. Hi Pete :) Gosh, this question almost belongs in rec.mud.admin, doesn't it? :) I run a modified Rom2.4 on a Debian box and they are similar, as you know :) I'm not sure if tcsh is in the base package, but I'm thinking that it is. Your (and my) startup files are c-shell files and if you try to run it from a bash shell it will not work. Try typing tcsh from the prompt and see if you get a new shell. If not, then you may want to get the csh-x.x.etc.deb file from the ftp site and run it. I'm pretty sure you don't have to, though. Hell, let me check... Ok, tcsh works. So you want to tcsh, then go to where your startup is and type ./startup --- the ampersand runs the mud as a background process, which is what you want to do. A ps- ax will show you both the startup script and the envy running at all times. Once began, the startup script actually controls the mud environment, including reboots, shutdowns, etc. Hope this helps :) I might drop by your mud once you get it up... Regards, Kendrick Ataraxia of Planet Zero 205.219.244.25 9000 -- Kendrick Myatt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cant get kernel-package!
when I use dselect to try and get kernel-package, i get into an infinite loop with dependencies on packages perl and libc5. I + them and they get *, but when I enter, I go back to dependencies and there they are again, still showing *! I X'd back and tried again from start, chose ftp, looked at packages, kernel-package was STILL selected, and I STILL got into the same boat when i tried to continue. Trying to purge those two packages was the bright idea I had, but I soon realized I would have to remove most of my system once the dependencies were ruled out :( I'm trying again to see if I can get kernel-package and it's 3 dependencies (the source and that other thing...) then I Q'd on the perl... *sigh* Now it's downloading all kinds of packages I didn't ask for, cron3.0, perl5.003, dpkg1.4, etc... What did I screw up, and is there some way to globally reset dselect, as I believe I have done something to really confuse it :( Thanks for any help.. I'll keep working on this end :) Regards, Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Networking problems
At 04:28 PM 1/20/97 +, Karsten Bolding wrote: Hi I have problems networking, below I've listed output from relevant programs but when I ftp or telnet or rlogin the system fails. ftp just hangs and the 2 other comes with a no route error Any help would be appreciated since I can't get any further installing the system (I've installed the base system from disk and wan't to use the ftp method in dselect). ### I've been there.. it's a frustrating state to be in... Karsten PS: I've tried using the IP-address directly, so it's not a resolver problem. ifconfig: loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3584 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 eth0 Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet HWaddr 00:20:AF:C8:2F:71 inet addr:130.226.145.156 Bcast:130.226.145.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:5 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 Interrupt:10 Base address:0x300 Just looking at you IP address and netmask, they look wrong. 130.226.145.156 is a Class B address, and you are using a Class C Netmask. It looks like that is a valid ip address since it belongs to the Danish Network for Research and Education, and you are in .dk domain, so check with your system admin and see if your netmask is not supposed to be 255.255.0.0. Or some weird subnet :) Looks like they are using the whole thing, though, from the address of your main router being .1 as it is below... route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface localnet* 255.255.255.0 U 0 01 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo default 130.226.145.1 0.0.0.0 UG1 00 eth0 That's all I can see from here, so if that doesn't help maybe some networking god or goddess on the list can shed some more light on the subject :) Regards, Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making kernel using make install
At 12:08 AM 1/19/97 +0100, Thomas Baetzler wrote: Victor Torrico wrote: When making a kernel 2.0.27 I do the following: [clumsy procedure deleted] Actually, on Debian it´s so much nicer to install the kernel-package package. Then you cd to the linux source, make mrproper and make config just once, and then you can always rebuild your kernel by running make-kpkg binary. This´ll give you a new kernel package that contains all you need. dpkg --install it, and so even your Debian system knows which kernel you´re using. ### Okay, I did this and waited a little over an hour for it to get all through and am ready for the dpkg --install part, but I don't have a package called kernel-package.anything anymore, so what package am I installing Regards, Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NEVERMIND Re: tty1 locked up
Nevermind. I'm a moron. I'm going home now... -Kendrick At 12:01 PM 1/21/97 -0600, Kendrick Myatt wrote: I was editing something in Pico the other day and someone did a boarding-house reach across my keyboard to get something. In the process they bumped their elbow on the keyboard a couple of times and hit *some* combination of keys that locked up the F1 virtual console. So I went to F2... I kill -9 the pico -- nothing. Killed the login session -- nothing. So I am stuck on F2 for now, I guess reboot *shrug* I see nothing but my current session for root and nothing about tty1 at all... If I just knew the keystrokes, it would be a good security script *grin* Just curious if anyone else has had this happen... Think I'll rebuild my kernel before I reboot.. hmmm... :) Regards, Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apache 1.1.1-9
I just tried to install the aforementioned version of Apache I found in /bo, but it does not copy a file called /etc/apache/srm.conf Apparently this file is important, because the server cannot start. It tried to open it and fopen fails, then the service start fails. Is there a newer version than this available, or a fix, perhaps? TIA for any help :) Regards, Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need help about diald dselect:
At 10:13 AM 1/19/97 -0500, Shaya Potter wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 1997, Lu Jimmy Chenji wrote: 2)I am trying to use dselect's FTP method without any success. I strted pppd first. The program and my modem seem working properly. I checked /var/log/ppp.log file and the message was like this: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 serila connection established. Using interface ppp0 connect: ppp0 --- /dev/ttyS0 local IP address 202.73.253.153 remote IP address 202.73.252.131 I think above message looks OK. Then I started dselect access method FTP. When dselect was loaded, I got a message hostname: Host name lookup failure. Does this mean anything? I just ignored this message and filled in information for fip site, passive, and username etc then hit return. I got the following messages: Connecting to ftp.debian.org NET::FTP: Bad hostname 'ftp.debian.org' at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line 405 FTP ERROR Just wondering, did you set up your /etc/resolb.conf file for the DNS server of your ISP. That should solve your problems. ## I had the same problem when I installed 1.2 clean. It tells you in the install to separate your nameservers with a comma, but you MUST NOT do this or it will generate a broken /etc/resolv.conf Go into your /etc/resolve.conf and make sure you have nameserver entries like: nameserver 1.2.3.4 nameserver 5.6.7.8 (should you have more than one nameserver they need to be on separate lines like this) the install program with commas actually generates: nameserver 1.2.3.4,5.6.7.8 *argh* this caused me all sorts of trouble when I installed :( Regards, Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing pico
At 09:56 PM 1/12/97 -0500, Daniel Stringfield wrote: Hello. Me again. I'm the pine/pico maintainer. Its in the non-free section. goto ftp.debian.org and look in /pub/debian/bo/non-free/binary-i386 ### Umm... I have been looking for pine pico for a while and can't find them :( I am in /bo right now and don't see a non-free, and it's not in /bo/binary-i386 either... Help? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PPP and /contrib
Hi folks :) 2 quick questions... 1)What is the best (easiest) way to get a PPP connection from my debian box to my isp via a modem? Ideally I'd like for it to be like my Win95 box (stop throwing things!) and dial on demand when I need Internet, and redial if disconnected. Is this possible? I remember years ago getting ppp with pppd, but it did not have those features I would like, and I think it was hard to work with. Surely there is something better now... Thanks in advance for any info! :) 2) The software in /contrib that is not guaranteed, just how unsafe is it for use? I'd really like to put on npasswd-boulder, for example, but the warning kinda makes me wonder about what might happen (all passwords get mailed to a newsgroup, etc..) :) Maybe I'm just too paranoid, but I just have to ask. Thanks! Regards, Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SPAM
At 05:01 PM 1/13/97 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [reply address disguised for anti-spam purposes. Real humans are encouraged to contact me: my username is gobbel, my host is cogsci.ucsd.edu. Spammers go away--forever.] ### A question for others, then... I have noticed that ever since I first posted to this list that I now get about a SPAM a day from some troglodyte with Internet access. Is it just me, or did someone suck all the users from this list and build a big commercial SPAM database? Curious, Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroup
Someone mentioned to me once about there being a newsgroup version of this list. I can't see it from my server, so I assume it's not propagated. What server do I point my newsreader at to see it. Thanks! :) Regards, Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Documentation Improvements (Was:Re: DEBIAN 1.2 DISKETTE PROBLEMS UPDATE)
I agree... Now that I am in love with my Debian box, I can tell that a LOT of work must have gone into this, and the benefits are great. In my case, all that I needed to do was NOT put commas between my nameservers. If this had been in my install.html file, then I never would have had confusing problem one that sparked so much traffic back and forth. Now, I'm also wondering if I am the first person to run into this, but I don't think so. I think it would be easy to simply update the install.html to tell first-timers (like myself) to NOT put the commas. Heck, I'll change the page myself if anybody wants me to :) I know that documentation is always the last phase of any project, though. I expect that it will all work out in time, especially with all the input from users. Hopefully I'll even be able to contribute somehow, maybe a package or such. Regards, Kendrick At 11:19 PM 1/9/97 -0500, Daniel S. Barclay wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) My first Linux installation was Slackware 2.3. I did it with no access to [snip] thereby saving a great deal of time? Or, better yet, providing good documentation? All my problems with both Slackware and Debian were due to ^ AMEN! poor documentation. (Not to ignore all the hard work that has gone into the system, and all software and documentation we do have, but to emphasize something that is needed to take advantage of all that hard work.) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Too many packages!
Thanks :) I appreciate everyone who answered this for me politely, although I was deserving of a RTFM, no doubt :) D'oh! Regards, Kendrick At 04:29 PM 1/10/97 -0500, David Gaudine wrote: Yes, because you didn't select what you want to remove. Use select first. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Custom kernel and boot problems still...
Hmmm... In my /etc/modules file I only have the following: #auto serial lp ne However, each time I boot it is still going and polling for all the nic cards and CD-ROMs, which effectively hoses my LAN. I tried modconf and according to it, nothing is loaded except the above. How hard is it to compile a kernel on Debian? I suppose I will have to find out :) TIA for any options or ideas! Regards, Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Custom Boot Disk and Network Problems
Whenever I boot my Debian system now, it still goes through and polls for devices I just don't have before it goes to INIT 2. The BIG problem with this is, for that time, my LAN is completely hammered with bad packets. My collision lights slam steady on, and all network activity is hosed. This is, needless to say, unacceptable. I was never prompted to use the custom boot disk I was told to set aside and use during the install process. I'm thinking that's why my boot is still so all-out wild and wooly. It's still going out an looking for CDROMS, scanners, the kitchen sink serial port, etc. :( How do I make/use that custom boot disk and/or otherwise tune my kernel so that I can take all the chaff out of the boot up and not hose my network. Many thanks in advance for help! I'm downloading packages still... I believe I screwed up when I interrupted dselect's getting of some packages I didn't want. Oh well.. If I have to start from scratch again, at least I know not to use those silly commas :) Regards, Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: improvements
Somebody wrote: communications non-networking communications documentation all documentation development as is currently games all games graphicsanything which creates, massages, transforms graphics misccatch all- math, electronics, hamradio, misc, etc. networking any networking functions- mail, news, utilities, etc. printinganything dealing with printing- TEX, lout, etc. system admin, base, shells, X windows, etc. # I am really in favor of this as well, if it would be possible. The way it is laid out now is more than a little muddy. Right now I seem to be getting the emacs package, which I do not want. I was thinking the interface of the packages would be more like above. It is an *awful* lot to scroll through once you get the list of packages, IMHO, and it was easy for me to get lost. Mainly breaking it up a little more into categories would have let me build the system I want better. Like, I could go into a Utilities menu and choose editors and then choose vi and pico, but not emacs. Then go back and under networking go to mail and get pine, then back up and go to news and get tin, but not INN since I just want to read from another server, not host news. I know, it's easy for me to suggest all this when someone else would have to do the work :) But, it's just some ideas from a first-time Debian user. Mainly I expected the interface to make things LESS confusing instead of MORE. I really like the way Slackware does their install ( that's about it) and I like being able to manipulate packages like I can in Solaris. I think that Debian is almost a best of both worlds system, but can still use some work, especially in the initial setup area. Example, why do I seem to be getting the British ispell dictonary!!! *sigh* Little things like that :) I still think it's way cool all in all :) I may re-do it from scratch just for the experience :) Regards, Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Too many packages!
Ok, so somehow I downloaded a lot of stuff I just don't want, like X, emacs, TeX, and a host of little things like the little calculator program... I fire up Dselect and go to remove, and then it comes back to the menu screen with Exit highlighted. Is this normal? I did a dpkg --list, and I have a LOT of packages installed, apparently. I know that one is not to use dpkg directly to install and remove, right? Is there some way that I can force dselect to work for me? I figure that way I will not accidentally delete a package that another package depends on :) Also, if I want I can ftp the packages that I want to a directory and then run dselect from there, right? I see things on the site I want, but going through that dselect ui is harder than doing it by hand, IMHO. I do, however, appreciate the idea of packages (love it in Solaris!) TIA for any help! Kendrick -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: DEBIAN 1.2 DISKETTE PROBLEMS UPDATE
At 08:29 PM 1/8/97 -0500, Dale Scheetz wrote: This is a demonstration that dpkg-ftp is working properly. It is reporting that the name specified (which is correct, by the way) either wasn't know to the name server, or you have not designated one correctly (you may have followed instructions and comma seperated a list of name servers) ## Ah-ha! I darn sure did comma separate my nameservers, and a quick glance at my /etc/resolv.conf shows me why it's not working! Heh heh.. I assume that the commas not parsing OR the install telling you to do them that way is on its way to being fixed... As I write this, I am connected to a Debian mirror site and getting all my packages! *cheer* This is very cool. :) Thanks to _everyone_ who wrote in with help and ideas about what might be causing the troubles! Leave it to me to start installing a new OS exactly when the support list decides to go down. Do I have perfect timing or what :) I was told that this list was VERY good for help and questions, and that is true. People offered to mail me the 1.1 disks and everything :) Turns out a comma was the culprit -- go figure! Everything seems ok now, so this thread will retire and I'll start a new one with my next question :) Thanks again to all! Regards, Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DEBIAN 1.2 DISKETTE PROBLEMS UPDATE
At 07:15 PM 1/5/97 -0600, Guy Maor wrote: No, dselect's ftp method, dpkg-ftp, uses perl's Net::FTP to do ftp (the protocol). It does not require ftp (the client). Use dselect to get netstd and you'll have ftp (the client). # It may have gotten lost when the list went down last week, but I posted about the dselect pseudo-ftp not working either. So since I have no ftp binary, or way to get the netstd package, I am still out of luck. When I run dselect and attempt to connect this is what I get... Using FTP to check directories...(stop with ^C) Connecting to ftp.debian.org... Net::FTP: Bad hostname 'ftp.debian.org' at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line 405 FTP ERROR Someone from this list forwarded me this, and it is the EXACT same thing that happens to me. I tried it with that host, other hosts, etc.. no good. It bombs out just like that :( So, until I can find some 1.1 disks, or this gets fixed my server is still down... Regards, Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DEBIAN 1.2 DISKETTE PROBLEMS UPDATE
At 10:25 AM 1/6/97 -0500, Dale Scheetz wrote: Well, you are partially correct. There is no ftp client on the base disks. However, dpkg-ftp IS provided on the base system and dselect's ftp method should work. It does not. This is what I get when I try and run dselect with the FTP access method: Connecting to ftp.debian.org... Net::FTP: Bad hostname 'ftp.debian.org' at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line 405 FTP ERROR I am looking into the problem more, to see if at least ftp and telnet can be added. # Either that or make dpkg-ftp work :) After receiving a flood of email from people on the list I understand how it's supposed to work, why it is that way, but not why it's not working for me. I like the idea of having very small of boot disks for an install.. that is one of the things that attracted me to Debian in the first place. Nobody understands what the problem is because everybody upgraded from a previous version, so they already had all the files they needed. Truely this is a fresh installation problem only. Upgrades will have no problems with this issue. ### So i discovered :) It seems that everyone except 2 people upgraded :) I didn't see any of this until I had already uploaded the 1997-01-06 disk set. It DOES have dpkg-ftp on it, but not netstd (with ftp and telnet). Something should be resolved for this by 1.2.2. ## Thanks :) I hate that my server has been down for nearly 2 weeks... I can sell you a 1.1.13 gold CD if you are really interested. ## I wish I had a CD on that box :( Unfortunately I don't, otherwise I would have bought the current disk. I am diskette only at this time... Thanks for the announce list info! :) Regards, Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DEBIAN 1.2 DISKETTE PROBLEMS UPDATE
Okay, here is what I have learned... The Debian 1.2 Disk release version is broken. There is no ftp or dpkg-ftp program installed to your machine if you get all the Disks and do a fresh install. Basically you are screwed :( Dselect will not work because there is no ftp. Nobody understands what the problem is because everybody upgraded from a previous version, so they already had all the files they needed. I post this in order to save others in the same boat all the frustration and headaches I have gone through in wanting to get Debian. Many thanks to everyone who wrote me personally and helped me figure all this out! :) I see that there is a Debian 1.2.1 on the site now, so I am going to give it a try. I assume that I griped enough, then :) If not, where can I get 1.1? Apparently it worked from disks on a clean install. Also, is there another list I need to be on to get announcements about new releases / fixes, etc? I would not have known about 1.2.1 if I hadn't noticed it while looking for 1.1 disks... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nevermind 1.2.1
Well, turns out that 1.2.1 is the same as 1.2-fixed, which I have already installed and it too is broken. So now the big question is, where can I get 1.1? Regards, Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FTP problem when using dselect (fwd)
Yes! This is EXACTLY what happens to me when it tries to connect to the ftp site using dselect. At least I know now that I'm not the only one :) The only difference is that it DIDN'T work once for me... Regards, Kendrick At 09:34 AM 1/3/97 -0500, Dale Scheetz wrote: Victor still can't post to the list, and I'm really swamped at the moment. Could someone give him a hand? Thanks, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 07:28:58 -0500 From: Victor Torrico [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FTP problem when using dselect Hi Dale, Sorry to bother you but I still can't post to the list. Would you really be kind and post this to the list for me? Victor - Using dselect and its ftp worked OK for one download. I tried dselect ftp again and was unable to log on. Has anyone had this problem and been able to correct it? I have tried purging and reinstalling dpkg-ftp and libnet. The messages I received follow: -- You must supply an ftp site, use of passive mode, username, password, path to the debian directory,list of distributions you are interested in and place to download the binary package files to (relative to /var/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp). Eg: ftp site: ftp.debian.org passive: y username: anonymous password: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ftp dir: /debian distributions: stable non-free contrib download dir: debian Enter ftp site [ftp.debian.org]: Use passive mode [y]: Enter username [anonymous]: If you're using anonymous ftp to retrieve files, enter your email address for use as a password. Otherwise enter ? and dpkg-ftp will prompt you each time. Enter password [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Enter debian directory [/debian/Debian-1.2-fixed]: Note: order here is important. Package files are scanned in order so later distributions will override earlier ones. So put stable before unstable. Enter space seperated list of distributions to get [admin base]: Enter directory to download binary package files to (relative to /var/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/) [debian]: Using FTP to check directories...(stop with ^C) Connecting to ftp.debian.org... Net::FTP: Bad hostname 'ftp.debian.org' at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line 405 FTP ERROR query/setup script returned error exit status 1. Press RETURN to continue. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No ftp? Have I missed something?
At 11:11 PM 1/2/97 -0400, Eloy A. Paris wrote: What do you mean? If you can ping any host in the Internet then you have anything you want (FTP, Telnet, News, WWW, etc.) - unless you are behind a firewall or something. Any way, what's the specific problem? ## That *is* the specific problem.. I don't have ftp, telnet, tin, lynx... anything BUT ping in /bin, oh and netstat :( That's why I can't connect to get more packages. Am I SUPPOSED to get these on the 4 base diskettes? If so, then something is wrong with them, or for some ungodly reason they just didn't install. So, unless there is some way for me to get packages without being able to ftp to the site, I am stuck. The main reason I wanted to go to Debian is so I could do just that and not have to download a bunch of diskettes like Slackware. Maybe I should have downloaded 1.1? I was under the assumption, from the docs, that 1.2 was the current release... Regards, Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No ftp? Have I missed something?
At 07:45 PM 1/2/97 -0800, Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote: If you did not get the ftp binary, then you did not get a complete base system. It's included. Is your path okay? I think ftp should be in /usr/bin. ## That's what I was thinking. No, didn't get it... Do I have to download the 4 base diskettes for a third time to get it, or is there another disk that fixes this problem. I have installed Debian with base diskettes from the main site and a mirror. Path is fine, but I have no ftp in /usr/bin... or anywhere for that matter. I did a find / -name ftp -print and only came up with the entry in /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp which is a dir with some files and an executable (setup?) that tries to run dpkg with ftp, but fails... I'm really starting to consider loading up 1.1 and NOT 1.2 Thanks for the reply, Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ping reply without OS (was: Re: Unidentified subject!)
This could be the result of the ARP cache in your router (or on your machine if you are running some routed type thing...) not expiring before the other server happened to come back up. I can't remember how long this is, and it _may_ be vendor specific when it comes to the hardware side. Regards, Kendrick At 03:16 PM 1/3/97 +0100, Martin Stromberg wrote: ping response can be handled by network hardware without OS running. Uhhmmm... hadn't heard of this ever before. To reply to a ping request the network card has to have an assigned IP address... -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9430323 Yes, but I've seen it quite often. The symptoms are you can't connect with anything, rlogin, telnet or such programs; however the machine gladly replies to ping. I think the situation arises when an OS _has_ been running on the machine and then crashes or hangs; in this state the ethernet card has been assigned an IP address, and then it just answers any ping requests that comes its way, without any intervention of the OS. ping 127.0.0.1, MartinS -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No ftp? Have I missed something?
At 05:08 PM 1/3/97 +0100, Orn E. Hansen wrote: If you got no ftp, that means you don't have the netstd package... which is in section net. You need netstd, and netbase... if memory serves. If you do have the binaries, and the setup isn't working... try reading the HOWTO for networking NET2-HOWTO. The basics are, that after you have the basic [snip] Yeah, yeah, I know how to configure the network on many an OS, what I am having a problem with is figuring out why I don't have the ftp program when it supposedly comes in the base diskette series. So, if I need this netstd package, then how do I get it? Can I ftp it from another machine and stick it on a floppy? Do I have to rawrite it or can I just ftp the .deb file directly to the floppy? See where I am confused? The documentation says nothing about how to do all that, I should be able to connect via ftp in deselect right after I install the base disks and kernel, but it's just not there :( Did you have to get the netstd package, or were you able to connect to the ftp site during the install? Which version did you install? Sorry for all the questions, but I am trying to figure out what I need to do :) Thanks for the reply! Regards, Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No ftp? Have I missed something?
Um, how am I supposed to connect to the ftp site if I don't have ftp? Heck, I don't have any inet capabilities except for ping! Maybe I missed something in the documentation, but it appears that have a pretty useless system installed here. Is there someplace I can look that will actually tell me how to set Debian up? I swear, this is really annoying. I have installed many complicated OS in my life, but this takes the cake :( Does everyone go through this crap, or did I get defective files or something? *sigh* -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LI???
When I boot my machine, I get LI and a blinking cursor, and it locks up. The machine boots fine from floppy, though. My system is set up with /dev/hdb1 as the / slice, booting from there. It gave me a warning when I did that, but I just ignored it, thinking it was nothing. Does it HAVE to boot from the first physical disk? My old version of slackware didn't... Just curious... I also just noticed there is 1.2 fixed at the Debian site, so I am about to re-install with those images... Regards, Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
base diskette problems
Okay... I have made 3 different sets of diskettes with 3 different machines and 3 different copies of the .bin files, but I can't get past the base 1 diskette encountering an end of file at about 1.2MB. This is *really* starting to annoy me :( Anybody care to share a sure-fire way to get the base diskettes to work? I'd appreciate it :) TIA! Regards Happy New Year! Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
