dpkg hosed after crash
A while back, my system crashed, but I was able to bring up a crippled system that I can limp along with. I lost mostly just data, and what programs I lost, I have been able to replace by reinstalling them. One that is becoming a sore spot, though, is dpkg. Whie it is able, mostly, to install other programs, when I try to upgrade it, it gives me this error: mschmitz:~# dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.4.1.3_i386.deb (Reading database ... 42321 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace dpkg 1.4.1.1 (using .../archives/dpkg_1.4.1.3_i386.deb) ...install-info: failed to lock dir for editing! No such file or directory dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 2 dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ... install-info: failed to lock dir for editing! No such file or directory dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.4.1.3_i386.deb (--install): subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 2 Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.4.1.3_i386.deb ps. please cc to me, as I am no longer on this list -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mschmitz.colug.org/ Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption
login.defs
I did an apt-get dist-upgrade to potato the other day, and my login.defs no longer seems to be used. I assume this probably has something to do with pamification. Any pointers anyone can give will be appreciated. TIA PS Please CC to [EMAIL PROTECTED], as I am not a member of this list anymore. -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mschmitz.colug.org/ Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption
Re: Where is KDE in slink?
On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 11:17:45AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go to KDE's site and look for the debian/potato dir - they're in there. ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/1.1pre2/distribution/deb/potato -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption
Re: pgp 5.0 for Linux beta 11!
On Aug 6, George Bonser wrote On Wed, 6 Aug 1997, Paul Miller wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 When you delete a message, doesn't Eudora delete the attachment? I've never used Eudora before, Netscape handles them real well. - -Paul Eudora (IIRC) SAVES the attachment as a separate file. It is up to you to keep them straight. By default it does not delete them automatically, but it gives you that option. -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ -
Re: perl script
On Jul 17, Ben Gertzfield wrote Mike == Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike I upgraded my system to hamm recently, and I am having Mike trouble with a script I have been using to create Mike invoices. The error message is: Mike -- Snip -- Mike mike:~$ invoice -n Illegal character \015 (carriage return) Mike at /home/mschmitz/bin/invoice line 3. (Maybe you didn't Mike strip carriage returns after a network transfer?) Mike -- Snip -- Mike The only transfers this script has gotten have been Mike accomplished by cp. If I put a # at the end of line 3, the Mike error just moves up one. Has anyone seen/solved this error? Perl 5.004 does not allow DOS carriage returns at the end of line. You will have to go through and remove all the ^Ms from the script. (an easy way to do that would be to 'pico filename', then just save) I don't have pico, and usually use only vim. Vim showed no ^M's so I was fairly satisfied that they did not exist. I started looking at the file in other editors on my system, ae xedit, ae showed none, but xedit saw them big as life. Is vim now trying to be compatible with M$?!! I may have to find a new editor. -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ -
Re: dselect woes
On Aug 19, Brandon Mitchell wrote On Tue, 19 Aug 1997, Alfonso E. Urdaneta wrote: I'm trying to use dselect to no avail. First I tried to tell dselect to read the cdrom. chose option a, saw the following [ error sniped ] Is it recognized at boot up (try more | dmesg if you missed it)? If ^ Better make that dmesg | more ---| so, just mount it before going into dselect. (mount -t iso9660 /dev/ /cdrom, the should be apparent from dmesg. My ide cdrom uses hdc.) If it's not recognized, you may have to recompile your kernel to get the cdrom working. If all that did work, you may want to look at man fstab to make it more automatic. So I figure that I should try the FTP method instead. [ another error snipped ] How are you connecting to the net (or did you connect)? Also, did you set up the network correctly during installation? Good luck, Brandon -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ -
perl script
I upgraded my system to hamm recently, and I am having trouble with a script I have been using to create invoices. The error message is: -- Snip -- mike:~$ invoice -n Illegal character \015 (carriage return) at /home/mschmitz/bin/invoice line 3. (Maybe you didn't strip carriage returns after a network transfer?) -- Snip -- The only transfers this script has gotten have been accomplished by cp. If I put a # at the end of line 3, the error just moves up one. Has anyone seen/solved this error? -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/
Re: LILO Problems, Groan
On Aug 22, Paul Lange wrote Joy. I've installed Debian 1.3.1 fresh on a 486/66 with ~4 megs of ram. This machine is to be a router for home, but right after the install when I'm to reboot and see how my system goes, I get this as an error message when LILO won't load: 3FA: Yup. That's it. That on a line. Then, I booted from my boot disk, logged in as root, uninstalled lilo, reinstalled it, and got the same message when I rebooted. It doesn't even get to LILO. It stops right after it checks the floppy and gives the above informative message. Anybody have any ideas? -- Paul Lange University of Texas ECE LRC Unix Services internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.ece.utexas.edu/~pel make the boot line in /etc/lilo.conf read boot=/dev/hda - or sda for SCSI and run lilo alternatively, toggle the bootable flag on the partition that the boot line points at. -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ -
Re: simple questions
On Aug 22, Robert S. Ross wrote I didn't get a satisfactory answer before, so I will try again. I know about LILO, it is on my boot diskette. How do I get it into the partition so my System Commander can call it? My Red Hat installation offers the option of booting from the partition, if I wish. How do I get Debian to do that? It is the default Unix, or Linux, is new to me, so I have learning curve to go through. Also0, how do I call Xwindows? When it is installed it gives you the option to set it up. It also gives you the option to use xdm so it starts at boot time. If you choose not to do this, you can use startx to begin it. -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ -
Re: qmail
On Aug 5, Bruno O. M. Simoes wrote Hi there I took this file in www.qmail.org and doesn't seem to work: taz# tar -xzf qmail-1_01_tar.gz tar: Skipping to next file header gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--crc error I couldn't descompress it. Does someone know either if there's a debian package compiled qmail or what There is a debian package for qmail in experimental. meant this error above? I have seen this error when I downloaded using a windows ftp client and did not make sure I was in binary mode. Thanks in advance Bruno -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ -
Re: cdrom
On Tue, Sep 09, 1997 at 07:41:00PM +0100, Tao Lu wrote: Hi: I first time try Linux. After install base system and boot up, I use dselect to set package. Although the cdrom is installed succefully during driver disk, the dselect ask me following: Insert the CD-ROM and enter the block device name [/dev/cdrom]: What is the block device name I should enter? The easiest way to find out is with te use of 'dmesg'. it shows all the boot up messages. pipe it to more to be able to scroll thru. dmesg | more -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ -
Re: Looking for Talk - HOWTO
On Aug 7, Frank Barknecht wrote Igor Grobman hat gesagt: // Igor Grobman wrote: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): So my question is: How can I be talked at my local Debian-machine?? You need to set your hostname to the one that resolves into your ip address. For example node32.yourprovider.com This can be done by modifying /etc/hosts each time you connect, or by using hostname command (and running it as root). Running 'hostname node32.yourprovider.com' will set your default hostname to the above. I tried this now, but it didn't seem to work. Instead I couldn't open my local display anymore for xterms and stuff, after I had changed the hostname as root. Isn't there another way? Rewrite your hosts file from /etc/ppp/ip-up, keeping the same name as is set in hostname. Here is an example: - snip - #!/bin/sh # /etc/ppp/ip-up: the command executed by pppd when IP comes up. # Copyright 1994 John A. Phillips - [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Parameters: # $1 = network interface used (e.g. ppp0) # $2 = pathname of serial device file (e.g. /dev/modem or /dev/ttyS1) # $3 = device speed (e.g. 38400) # $4 = local address (e.g. 158.152.16.94) # $5 = remote address (e.g. 158.152.1.222) PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin export PATH NETDEVICE=$1 TTYDEVICE=`basename $2` SPEED=$3 LOCAL_IP=$4 REMOTE_IP=$5 DATE=`date` # set DATE = current time # update the /etc/hosts file... # echo # # This file automatically generated by /etc/ppp/ip-up and should # indicate the correct dynamically allocated IP address below. # # This file generated on $DATE # 127.0.0.1 localhost $LOCAL_IP host.provider.com host /etc/hosts - snip - Replace the host entries with your hostname :-) HTH -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ -
Re: finger return No one logged on. and I am logged...... (fwd)
On Aug 14, Andrea Arcangeli wrote Anybody can report my same problem? Andrea Arcangeli -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:22:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrea Arcangeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Fries [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: finger return No one logged on. and I am logged.. On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, David Fries wrote: Are you logged in at console or with an rxvt in X? I don't have a problem with logging in the console, but it doesn't show up if I'm in a rxvt. I logged in the console, but w works also if I am logged in xterm: arca:~$ w 12:03pm up 5 min, 4 users, load average: 0.04, 0.07, 0.02 USER TTYLOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT andrea ttyp0 11:59am 0:22 0:00 0:00 -bash andrea ttyp1 12:00pm 2:09 0:00 0:00 -bash andrea ttyp2 12:01pm 0:04 0:00 0:00 pine andrea ttyp3 12:02pm 0:00 0:00 0:00 w arca:~$ last |head -5 andrea ttyp3:0.0 Thu Aug 14 12:02 still logged in andrea ttyp2:0.0 Thu Aug 14 12:01 still logged in andrea ttyp1:0.0 Thu Aug 14 12:00 still logged in andrea ttyp0:0.0 Thu Aug 14 11:59 still logged in reboot system boot Thu Aug 14 11:58 arca:~$ finger No one logged on. I want to know if is a finger problem or is caused by something other. I am sure the problem is caused by login. arca:~# /var/run/utmp arca:~# last -f /var/run/utmp utmp begins Thu Aug 14 16:16:46 1997 arca:~# login arca login: root Password: Linux arca 2.1.49 #2 Tue Aug 12 21:29:09 CEST 1997 i586 unknown Last login: Thu Aug 14 16:03:58 on tty1. No mail. arca:~# last -f /var/run/utmp ~***|*** * **`q * **ISun Apr 7 10:47 still logged in *r *Y**8* `q Thu Jan 1 01:08 still logged in *- *r `q Sat Jan 10 22:43 still logged in ***3 4*@ Thu Jan 1 01:00 - 19:12 (18:12) utmp begins Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 arca:~# Can be a libc problem? xterm login shell return the same problem of login from console. arca:~# ldd /bin/login libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x4000b000) arca:~# ldd /usr/bin/X11/xterm libXaw.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw3d/libXaw.so.6 (0x4000b000) libXmu.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x4005e000) libXt.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x4007) libSM.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x400b2000) libICE.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x400bb000) libXext.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x400d) libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x400db000) libncurses.so.3.0 = /lib/libncurses.so.3.0 (0x40179000) libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x401b6000) arca:~$ dpkg -l libc5 Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==- ii libc5 5.4.33-5 The Linux C library version 5 (run-time libr Any suggestions? Andrea Arcangeli On my machine: mike:~$ finger No one logged on. mike:~$ finger @localhost [localhost] Username Real name Idletime TTY Remote console location root root 15:09 1 (mike) mschmitz Mike Schmitz 20:00 2 (mike) root root 17:00 3 (mike) dialout dialout0:03 s1 (/usr/sbin/pppd ) Bug or feature? -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ -
Re: Looking for Talk - HOWTO
On Aug 8, Frank Barknecht wrote Mike Schmitz hat gesagt: // Mike Schmitz wrote: Rewrite your hosts file from /etc/ppp/ip-up, keeping the same name as is set in hostname. Here is an example: I have tried this now, but used an example from the Dynamic-IP-Hacks-mini-HOWTO like another user here suggested. Basically it is the same script as your example. To test this setup I rlogged in to a SUN in my university and tried to talk me. But again I only could see the message in my xconsole: in.talkd[1583]: connect from sun.foo.bar.de without getting a talk request in xterm. And yes: mesg is y. In my /etc/hosts now is the official ip-address and an offical DNS-name. The SUN in my university is permanently connected to the internet. SUN and I even share the same domain name now. Still I cannot talk to me!? From a previous answer to the same question by Igor Grobman: - Snip - Both of them do understand ntalk protocol. However, suns have their ntalk/talk ports switched as opposed to linux. Your /etc/services file should containt th e following lines: talk517/udp ntalk 518/udp On suns, talk would be port 518 and ntalk is 517. The solution is to fix this problem on one of the ends. -- Proudly running Debian Linux! Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Snip - HTH - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ -
Re: fstab question
On Thu, Oct 02, 1997 at 12:11:53AM -0400, Shaleh wrote: is there a way to specify an item without listing a fs type. I have an external parport device that I have both msdos and ext2 formatted disks for. I have separate lines in fstab corresponding to different directories. /dev/sda1 /mnt/lzip ext2noauto,user,umask=000 0 0 /dev/sda4 /mnt/dzip vfatnoauto,user,umask=000 0 0 -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption
Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!
on the users list, therefore I will speak up on the matter. I have felt, and do consider myself in alignment with David Cinege and Paul Wade. I do not think that _any_ decision should be made on business, marketing, or political reasons, Whatever the cost, ONLY quality of the code and distribution should be considered. I believe that only harm can come from asking any government's sanction of the project, and money can only corrupt it. I apologize if my opinion is not shared by the majority, but it is mine, and all are free to disagree. -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ -
Re: pon permission problems
On Sun, Nov 30, 1997 at 10:27:47PM -0800, michael wrote: The pon command works from the root account but not from the 'michael' user account (mine's a single user system). Michael is a member of group pid and dialout. When michael executes pon the system issues the following complaint: You do not have permissions to access /etc/ppp.chatscript or /etc/ppp.options_out ls -l on ppp.chatscript: -rw--- 1 root root 235 Nov 27 11:54 /etc/ppp.chatscript ls -l on ppp.options_out: -rw--- 1 root root 108 Nov 27 12:01 /etc/ppp.options_out Clearly these files have the wrong permissions or owners. Which is it? Make these files mode 640 owner root group dialout. PS. I had installed Netscape Communicator vis dpkg (took a while to get the tar file named correctly). However, I didn't like the setup because it wouldn't run as root. So I deinstalled via dpkg then used the netscape install script. Any problems with that? PPS. I installed the jdk stuff via dpkg as well. It took a while to figure out why Netscape was exiting by itself. I thought Java was included with it, why isn't it and why does it crash without it (because I've got Java module support installed in the kernel?)? -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption
Re: page breaks in text printing (for guitar tab)
On Sat, Jan 30, 1999 at 01:38:27PM -0600, Matt Garman wrote: How do I force a page break in text files for printing with linux? I want to print some guitar tab, and it gets ruined if half is on one page, and the other half comes out on the next page. It's entirely too much trouble (not to mention overkill) to format tab in say LaTeX. Anyone have any ideas on this? Also, how do I move the margins over to the right a bit? I use a three hole punch on my tab to keep it in a binder and if the text is too far left, the holes kinda ruin it. man pr -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption
Re: mutt trashes mail
On Wed, Jan 27, 1999 at 08:33:00AM +1000, Alan Eugene Davis wrote: I am afraid to try mutt again. After a long hiattus, I tried mutt again after some version changes. I lost a large slug of mail. Just gone. I have just been leaving mail in the mail spoon. Mutt has a habit of trashing that file. Can anybody corroborate this behavior? Has this kind of problem been solved? I am now using af. Check +mbox. The default behaviour of mutt is to save read files there, clearing the inbox. -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption
Re: iomega (atapi) zip drive?
On Thu, Jan 07, 1999 at 11:54:18AM -0800, Daryl Williams wrote: folks, does anyone know if there is support for iomega's ATPI zip drive? i have one attached to the primary IDE controller of a DELL pentium running a 2.0.34 kernel. any pointers would be very welcome. I think the support for the atapi zip drive began in 2.0.35 -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption
Re: Horrid question: ssh or ssl-telnet for Windoze(95)/Doz
On Thu, Dec 17, 1998 at 03:23:40PM -, Chris Evans wrote: Ugh, this is a horrid question to ask but I'll risk it. I am happily moving all my heavy internet stuff to Debian (three machines: home, old office, new ISP hosted machine). Very, very impressed with Debian. The trouble is that I can't ditch Windoze from my portable for some time yet nor do I have space on it for the doze things I need (mostly SAS SPSS) and to put Debian on it too. I'll get space some day but . 'til then I want some secure way to get into my Debian machines from that machine when I'm away from home. Does anyone else face this? Is there a free or cheap ssh or ssl-telnet for this horrid platform or are there other ways of ensuring confidential transfers and use of the debian machines? SecureCRT -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption
Re: Short scripts
On Thu, Dec 17, 1998 at 10:52:06AM -0700, John Greer wrote: I know that there has to be an easy way to do this but i thought that I would ask anyway. How do I create a short script file similar to a DOS batch file? I would like to be able to have a link to pon that would run pon and then run another app if pon is successful. Is there a simple way to do this? Thanks for the help. If pon is successful, then pppd is successful. Write a script to start the other app and place it in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d. All scripts in that directory are run if pppd succeeds. -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption
Re: Any one using voice modems (mailbox) on Debian with US Robotics Modem
On Fri, Dec 11, 1998 at 12:45:27PM +0200, Daniel Mashao wrote: I am looking for tips of how to get US Robotics Sportster Voice modem to work as a voicemail system. I have to software to get it work in Windows but I do not want to go that route. vgetty -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption
Re: Mouse freezes
On Wed, Nov 25, 1998 at 12:27:42AM +0100, Martin Bialasinski wrote: AI == Andrew Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AI I got a small problem in X: sometimes, when I restart my xserver, AI mouse stops working, and only reboot fixes it. I saw this just today (ps/2 M$ mouse). I restarted the Xserver, and it worked again. I believe it is gpm interfering somewhere (although this is OK on my homebox [Logitech serial mouse]). Shut down gpm before starting X (/etc/init.d/gpm stop). I heared you can use a special device in XF86Config make gpm also manage the mouse My /etc/gpm.conf: device=/dev/psaux responsiveness=15 type=ps2 append=-R The relevant part from /etc/X11/XF86Config: Section Pointer ProtocolMouseSystems Device /dev/gpmdata BaudRate1200 Emulate3Timeout 50 Resolution 100 Buttons 3 Emulate3Buttons EndSection HTH -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption
Re: Still having Printer Problems
On Wed, Nov 04, 1998 at 09:13:29PM -0600, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote: In my attempt to isolate why I can't print I came across a potential problem. When I installed Linux I had a parallel port Zip Drive attached to my printer port. If I type 'mount /dev/sda Zip' I am able to mount the zip drive. Since my printer is connected to the Zip drive I was wondering if this might be why I cannot print by using /dev/lp1? If I have a file 'test' and type test /dev/lp1 I get nothing. lp test gives an error message job 'cfA12' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed Might this be a result of the Zipdrive/Printer? If so, how can I correct it to print via the Zip drive? Check out http://www.torque.net/parport/paride.html -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption
Re: transferring large files from DOS/Windoze to Debian
On Sun, Nov 01, 1998 at 10:58:33AM -, Chris Evans wrote: Is there a way to transfer large files from DOS/Windoze machines to Debian if you only have a null modem or floppies to connect the two? I want to download some large files for Debian (staroffice and a newer kernel source). My Debian machine is now at home and it will cost a fortune to download them at 14.4k over the 'phone but I can catch them with my NT machine at work for free and put them on my Win95 portable (conversion to Debian for this is planned!!!) with laplink. Is there a good way to transfer them from the portable to the Debian machine? I have a feeling that kermit or another protocol at each end of the null modem cable is the best answer. I can get kermit or the like for the portable and I have minicom on the Debian machine. Run getty on the serial port. There is an example in /etc/inittab. Uncomment it and modify serial port etc. Hook up cable. Run any terminal program on the windows box and upload the files.
Re: lynx colours
On Tue, Oct 27, 1998 at 05:06:03PM +, Dave Swegen wrote: Is there anyone out there who could enlighten me on the topic of colours in lynx? IMHO the default colours are dreadful (dark-blue on black, anyone?). I have rtfm, but to little avail. This is something that has been bugging me for ages, and I would like to sort it out once and for all. In lynx.cfg I changed blue to brightblue and red to brightred. That made it readable for me anyway. -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption
Re: Is Supra 336i a Winmodem?
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 10:25:15PM -0500, Andrew Ivanov wrote: I have been trying to get my modem to work in debian, and unfortunately, unsuccessfully. I have 486DX4, it's got SupraExpress 336i Sp modem installed in it. My primary boot right now is Win95, until I can get debian setup. Modem works perfectly with Windows. In debian what happens is: Modem is on COM3, at least this is what Windows tells me. setserial /dev/ttyS2 gives me output : UART unknown, IRQ 4, Port 0x03e8 You might check the IRQ that windows has COM3 at. Might have the right IO but wrong IRQ. Alternatively, Linux is more sensitive to IRQ conflict than windows, so if you have com 1 active it might be conflicting. When I run wvdialconf, it tells me that modem was not detected, asks if it's in use by any other programs, etc. Any idea why is this not working? How can I check if this is a Winmodem? Any suggestions, please? Andrew HTH -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption
Re: goldstar cdrom driver
On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 05:47:19PM -0700, Steve Ball wrote: Could someone please point me to where to get the driver for a Goldstar CDROM Model CRD8160B Rom ver. 1.04D This seems to be an IDE cdrom, so the driver should be already in the kernel. All you have to do is mount it. I.E. mount -t iso9660 /dev/hd[abcd] /cdrom | you'll need to pick one, probably c or d -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption
Re: Fax Software
On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 11:47:13AM -0400, David Frye wrote: Can anyone tell me of a good fax software package for Linux. I see that they have an efax, hylafax, and mgetty-fax. Which of these is the easiest and most reliable to use? I used to use efax. It has one shell script that does everything. If you understand shell scripting, it is pretty easy. I switched to mgetty because it does a lot more. With vgetty, you have voice, fax, data all in one package. Drawback: It only works with class 2 or 2.0. No class 1. Hylafax I was never able to get running, but I haven't tried it in a couple of years. -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption
Re: X X
On Thu, Aug 27, 1998 at 09:19:48PM +, Phillip Neumann wrote: Hi, What sould i do to run an X session, and then changing to another console and make another X session, without linux saying me it canot do it?? startx -- :1 -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption
Re: How to receive mail under WIN95 from another Debian PC ?
On Sun, Aug 23, 1998 at 04:44:42PM +0200, Michael Grimm wrote: If not, what package do you recommend ? qpopper ? I would recommend IMAP. That way a user on PC1, if (s)he uses both Linux and '95, could have the same mail in both. -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption
Re: Nuking damned scrambled consoles.
On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 10:47:58PM -0400, Hank Fay wrote: Chris, well, it helped jumble up the funny critters. s The only thing that works so far is shutdown Hank Using VFP: MS's OOP Production Tool http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/fayhj -Original Message- From: Ronn Pimentel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 10:12 AM To: Christopher Barry; debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Nuking damned scrambled consoles. On Tue, Aug 11, 1998 at 12:23:22PM -0700, Christopher Barry wrote: Hi, Every now and then I do a little goof-up that scrambles a virtual console and I'm sure we all do sometimes but lately I've been doing a little programming and if I accidentally gib a string argument then it corrupts the console every single time so I quickly run out of all 6 consoles and am forced to reboot. The way that I get ride of a scrambled console. 1. Try typing reset 2. Try typing clear 3. Try running top This always seems to work. don't know why but it does. Try CTRLvCTRLoENTER -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption
Re: Using dialog
On Sun, Aug 02, 1998 at 07:20:57PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *- Johann Spies wrote about Using dialog | I want to try out dialog and have read the man page. But I still do not | know how to use it. Can somebody send me an example please? | The dunc package requires it so you could install that package and look at its scripts. There is dialog replacement called whiptail that is supposed to be more powerful. The pppconfig and modconf packages use it so you could look at those packages for examples. RANT How can you call it more powerful when it only has a subset of the function- ality? I personally use tailbox in several of my internal toys. I find whiptail to be ugly, clumsy in respect to moving around in menus, slower on older machines, and it seems to me the reason we went to it was more political than technical. /RANT -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: LPRng printer Port
On Tue, Jul 21, 1998 at 01:07:16PM +0100, Babs wrote: HELP! I have read every doc i can get my hands on, news groups, more. I can not figure out why my printer port is not opening. I'm running an X86 based PC, Debian Linux Kernel 2.0.34, I am in the process of integrating the internal network at our office. I'm still fairly new to linux been running it for about 5 months or so. Still have lots to learn. I have Netatalk and Samba Running and configured properly. At one point i did have LPRng Suite working properly as well. Crashed the system and had to do a complete reinstall. From that point on i have not been able to get the printer port to open, no matter what i do. Does anyone have any ideas for me. If i can get the port open i can work on filters later. I added use_shorthost to the lpd.conf to get it to work. -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
New ncurses breaks dialog
Dialog segfaults dumps core after I upgraded ncurses. Versions: ncurses-base1.9.9g-8.8 ncurses-bin 1.9.9g-8.8 ncurses-term1.9.9g-8.8 ncurses3.0 1.9.9e-2.1 ncurses3.4 1.9.9g-8.8 ncurses3.4-dev 1.9.9g-8.8 dialog 0.9a-12 If you want to see the core file, let me know -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: New ncurses breaks dialog
On Tue, Jul 21, 1998 at 07:43:10PM +0800, Lindsay Allen wrote: I had this problem only yesterday and it turned out that I had mismatched versions of ncurses3.4 and ncurses3.4-dev. Can we see the output of dpkg -l ncurses* ? Here is mine:- ---snip--- mschmitz# dpkg -l ncurses* Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==- un ncurses none (no description available) ii ncurses-base1.9.9g-8.8 Video terminal manipulation - Minimum termin ii ncurses-bin 1.9.9g-8.8 Video terminal manipulation - associated pro un ncurses-dev none (no description available) un ncurses-develop none (no description available) un ncurses-pic none (no description available) un ncurses-runtime none (no description available) ii ncurses-term1.9.9g-8.8 Video terminal manipulation - additional ter un ncurses21-dev none (no description available) ii ncurses3.0 1.9.9e-2.1 Old libc5 curses - shared libraries pn ncurses3.0-altd none (no description available) un ncurses3.0-dev none (no description available) ii ncurses3.4 1.9.9g-8.8 Video terminal manipulation - shared librari pn ncurses3.4-dbg none (no description available) ii ncurses3.4-dev 1.9.9g-8.8 Video terminal manipulation - Developer's li pn ncurses3.4-pic none (no description available) mschmitz# -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Selection/clipboard problems
On Thu, Jul 16, 1998 at 12:52:16PM +0200, Oskar Liljeblad wrote: Right now, it seems to be impossible to move text using the clipboard/X selection between some applications - especially from xterm/rxvt to nedit/netscape. Am I doing it the wrong way, or is there a way to make it work without modifying the source? Oskar Liljeblad ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) It requires the middle button for paste. It will not use the right button instead like gpm will. You can Emulate3Buttons, though. -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Print to HPLaserjet 5/L on a windows box
On Thu, Jul 16, 1998 at 02:49:13PM -0700, ... wrote: Well, the subject pretty much says it all. Is there an (semi) easy way for me to print to this box? I've just spent the last 1/2 hour trying to coax windows to print a 10 page HTML doccument containing only text, and I've had no luck. My workstation is (proudly :) 100% Microsoft free, but I network fine with everybody via Samba. If I could print I would be a happy camper. Any information, or links to HOWTO's etc etc would be greatly apreciated. mike... There is a script called smbprint - I believe it is in the /usr/doc/samba tree. You will have to modify it, and there is some minor setup. -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Here is a procmail filter for the Repeated Messages
On Fri, Jul 10, 1998 at 12:27:27AM -0500, Mike Merten wrote: One more, then I'll shut up for a while... Is there a way to get Mutt to search message headers instead of just the msg body (so I can batch delete stuff like this) ? Mike I just used the original send date. D - Capital d gives a prompt - Delete messages matching: and I gave it: ~d -07/07/98 to delete messages older than 08/07/98. ~h PATTERN messages which contain PATTERN in the message header might do more what you're asking. The mutt manual, under Advanced Usage, gives much more specific rules -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Making modem talk 3........................
On Tue, Jul 07, 1998 at 03:48:59PM -0700, Phillip Neumann wrote: Hi, again.. This is getting interesting for me, because i have try to configure my modem since about 3 weeks, and i couldnt. Im my win95 modem prop. said its in COM3. In the Resources tab it said Input/Output 03E8 and Interrupt Request 05. Im a novice with that stuff and im not syre if thats the IRQ and OI. I hope my modem will work !! setserial /dev/ttyS2 irq 5 If that works, put it in /etc/rc.boot/0setserial -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Mutt configuration
On Sun, Jul 05, 1998 at 03:51:10PM -0500, Mike Merten wrote: Hi everyone, I have a problem configuring Mutt. All mail, unless I delete it, is saved in my spoolfile. I'm trying to configure the mbox-hook command to move all read mail to a different folder (mbox) but am unable to get it to work. The spool file is the users default mail file in /var/spool/mail/. The mbox file is the usual ~/mbox. In /etc/Muttrc I added the line mbox-hook $spoolfile ~/mbox I've also tried specifying the full pathname in place of $spoolfile and ~/mbox. I've tried swapping the spoolfile and mbox args in case I misread the syntax in the docs. Obviously I'm not doing something right. Any suggestions? set nohold set mbox=~/mbox -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: changing module parameters
On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 01:52:11AM -0400, Hank Fay wrote: Oops -- the info on modules to be loaded was in /etc/modules -- but no info on the parameters being passed. You want /etc/conf.modules. my ne otions line is: options ne io=0x340 -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changing module parameters
On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 10:50:29AM -0400, Hank Fay wrote: Mike, yup, that works fine, thanks. A followup question: the old wrong parameters install still shows up earlier in the boot sequence. Where is that information stored? I'm half-guessing, being new at this thing, that it was compiled into some kind of map when I built the system using the install. ??? Hank Check earlier in the same file. -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Y2K
On Sun, Jun 21, 1998 at 11:03:18PM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote: t == timothy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: t How will Debian other distributions handle Y2K on older computers t which don't t have a Y2K safe BIOS? Check http://www.debian.org/news.html#19980104 Ciao, Martin Actually he was asking about the BIOS. It should be fairly easy to create a hack at boot (when the system clock is initialized) to make any adjustments necessary to the data from the BIOS. -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#23695: fvwm2: seems to be reading some hook files twice?
On Fri, Jun 19, 1998 at 12:08:04PM +0200, Yann Dirson wrote: Branden Robinson writes: Package: fvwm2 Version: 2.0.46-BETA-3 Severity: normal After a recent upgrade of fvwm2, the window manager seems to be processing at least some of my $HOME/.fvwm2/*.hook files twice. Used to be, the attached main-menu-pre.hook file did the expected thing. Now, the menus I custom-made get doubled up (see the attached X window dumps in PNG format). Well, I never took time to fully investigate, but I do have a similar, though not identical problem: I get 2 FvwmButtons and 3 FvwmPager, the former causing 2 of each swallowed app to be launched, and seem not to like it when one hides the other... Mine was doing something similar til I put a Plus sign before the initial- ization of the module. Such as: + Module FvwmPager 0 0 I don't remember why I tried that, but it fixed the problem. -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
compile errors
One of my clients is setting up a new hamm machine. Base-install plus default config(what is already marked in dselect) is installed. Kernel source package 2.033, and the kernel packager are installed. The kernel compiles OK but the package is not created. The last page of the output is attached. We were able to compile the kernel elswhere and copy it back to the machine and install it. TIA for any pointers, and will answer any questions about installed packages. These may be relevant. ii dpkg1.4.0.22 Package maintenance system for Debian Linux ii dpkg-dev1.4.0.22 Package building tools for Debian Linux ii dpkg-perl 0.1-2hamm1 Perl interface modules for dpkg ii kernel-package 4.11 Debian Linux kernel package build scripts. ii kernel-source-2 2.0.33-9 Linux kernel source. -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption ---BeginMessage--- install -p -d -o root -g root -m 755 debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.0.33/cdrom install -p -d -o root -g root -m 755 debian/oot -g root -m 755 debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.0.33/fs-image/lib/modules/2.0.33/oot -g root -m 755 debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.0.33/ipv6 install -p -d -o root -g root -m 755 debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.0.33/ipv4 install -p -d -o root -g root -m 755 debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.0.33/ipv6 install -p -d -o root -g root -m 755 debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.0.33/misc install -p -d -o root -g root -m 755 debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.0.33/net install -p -d -o root -g root -m 755 debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.0.33/scsi install -p -d -o root -g root -m 755 debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.0.33/block install -p -d -o root -g root -m 755 debian/tmp-image/usr/oot -g root -m 755 debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.0.33/net/kernel-image-2.0.33 sed -e 's/=V/2.0.33/g'-e 's/=B//g' \ -e 's/=S//g' -e 's/=R//g' \ -e 's/=K/bzImage/g' -e 's/=L/lilo/g' \ /usr/lib/kernel-package/image.postinst debian/tmp-image/DEBIAN/oot -g root -m 755 debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.0.33/block chmod 755 debian/tmp-image/DEBIAN/postinst sed -e 's/=V/2.0.33/g'-e 's/=L/lilo/g' \ /USA/lib/kernel-package/image.prerm debian/tmp-image/DEBIAN/prermchmod 755 debian/tmp-image/DEBIAN/prerm install -p-o root -g root -m 644 debian/changelog \ debian/tmp-image/usr/doc/kernel-image-2.0.33/changelog.Debian install: debian/changelog: No such file or directory make: *** [stamp-image] Error 1 router:/usr/src/linux# ---End Message---
Re: ZIP ZIP+ drives
On Tue, Jun 16, 1998 at 09:55:15PM +0100, Adrian Bridgett wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 1998 at 03:45:45PM +0200, Max Lawson wrote: Hi, I know the ZIP drive is supported in the kernel; and I would like to know if the ZIP+ drive is supported too. Not yet - try looking at http://www.torque.net/zip.html You probably want to make that http://www.torque.net/~campbell/ Actually there is an alpha driver available there. -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD-rom and ZIP
On Wed, Jun 10, 1998 at 07:16:57PM +0200, Marc van der Vossen wrote: Hi, A big thanks to all who have responded to my questions. I can now mount every thing I want. Is there an automatic mounter ? If I would like to mount put entries in /etc/fstab three things, what should they be called? I know /mnt, but that is only one out of three. These are the things to be mounted: hda5: misc hdc4. Zip hdd4: Cd-rom I would use /mnt/misc, /mnt/zip, /mnt/cdrom with fstab entries: /dev/whatever /mnt/misc ext2defaults0 2 /dev/hdc4 /mnt/zipvfatnoauto,user 0 0 /dev/hdd/mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,user,ro 0 0 -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Echoing another terminal
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 01:52:47PM -0500, Matthew Myers wrote: Is it possible to echo the display of another terminal to the current terminal you are on? try ttysnoops -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD-rom and Zip-drive
On Fri, Jun 05, 1998 at 07:49:17PM +0200, Marc van der Vossen wrote: Hi, I have a problem with my secondary IDE channel. I have a CD-rom as slave ans a Zip-drive as Master on that controller. When I insert my Debian-CD, install goes OK. Then, after reboot, dselect starts and I say; load from CD-rom. That's the place it does not work. I tried installing a mitsumi driver with the following settingns, mcd=0x376,15 Is this correct ? I tried setting CD as Master and Zip as slave, but the system does not run and I can't even get the dos driver, nor the win95 driver to work. I have the same configuration. It worked fine until I upgraded to a TX motherboard. After that Linux would not recognize my cdrom drive. I finally got it workin with the cdrom as slave to the zip, and added this line to my /tec/lilo.conf: append=hdc=cdrom It gives me a warning or two at bootup, but every thing works fine. -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pon - When am I connected?
On Fri, May 29, 1998 at 10:01:32PM -0600, Lazar Fleysher wrote: Maybe it is not the best way, but I have the following command in my ip-up script. wall PPP is UP Better make thatecho PPP is UP | wall -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Supressing duplicate email
Does anyone have a procmail recipe to supress duplicate email? (Useful when subscribed to more than one Debian list). -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windoze 95 is not multi-tasking, it just pretends it is multitasking.
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 03:41:45PM +0100, C.J.LAWSON wrote: Well for what it is worth my own opinion is that 95 just like its forbears is an app. loaded on dos and for this reason I think we should be talking about whether or not dos is a true multi-tasking OS ... It certainly is capable of becoming one. The question is, has it be implemented? DesQview, DoubleDos, NovelDOS, VM to name a few. -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mgetty voice/fax/data
On Wed, Feb 25, 1998 at 09:56:05PM -0500, Paul Miller wrote: Where is the mgetty home page? The site I found in the info file did not exist. Or do you know the mgetty mailing list address? Thanks -Paul http://wais.leo.org/~doering/mgetty/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or to join: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: US Mutt in hamm
On Thu, Feb 19, 1998 at 03:13:07PM -0600, Jeff Noxon wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 1998 at 01:42:12PM -0500, Tim Sailer wrote: Bleh... the default behavior of mutt changed. Can anyone tell me how to make the latest mutt *not* move the read email to $HOME/mbox on exit? I can't find it in the docs. I'd like it to stay in the spool file. add to .muttrc: set mbox=/var/spool/mail/username There may be a more generic way to do it in /etc/Muttrc, but this is what I figured out after reading the docs in the last upgrade. If you find the generic way, please let me know. Maybe: set mbox=/var/spool/mail/$USER I'm annoyed that the View-URL function has been moved into another program. Is anyone going to package the View-URL thing? IMHO, that was one of Mutt's greatest features. I just wrote a script to check whether I was in X or not, and called the appropriate browser Also, the colorization is now gone. I haven't had a chance to find out why. Thanks, Jeff -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Using obsolete Laser printers with Debian
On Mon, Jan 26, 1998 at 12:15:08PM -0800, Howard S. Ostrowsky wrote: Hi all: I have recently acquired two obsolete laser printers which were destined for the garbage dump. I would like to use one or both of them with my Debian system, but I'm having some problems. The first one is an HP LaserJet Plus (500K memory) with serial and parallel interfaces. It works well (parallel) under DOS and windows. In Linux I can print ascii text, but not post-script. I am using Magicfilter and Aladdin-Ghostscript, but when I send a postscript document to the printer it justs hangs. A log file says 25% done...50% done... etc. lpq says the document is in the queue, then a little later it says the queue is empty. But the printer remains silent. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? How about a printcap entry that has actually worked? You might try lowering the resolution. A while back I had a LaserJet (no numbers or plus) working with ghostscript. I no longer have the configs, but IIRC all I changed was the resolution. The LaserJet has no memory, so the only resolution was the lowest. :-( I hope yours will work better. HTH -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Newbie Q: Color Xterms...
On Mon, Jan 26, 1998 at 01:12:37PM -0900, Adam Shand wrote: Sorry everyone, I know this has been answered a billion times before... but I can't find the answer. What is it I have to change to allow things like bitchx/mutt to run in color inside an xterm? XTerm*customization:-color in .Xresources -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: lp/ppa configuration; how to set to use printer?
On Thu, Jan 08, 1998 at 01:26:17PM -0600, Gregory Guthrie wrote: I have a Zip drive on lp0, and at boot time it is recognized (een if no disk inserted), and then I cannot use lp0 to print. The lsmod reports ls module loaded, no ppa module reported. How can I disable ppa, and print? You need to recompile the kernel, with module support for the Zip. You'll find it in the SCSI section. Alternatively, there is a kernel patch that will allow you to use the pass-thru feature. Info can be found at http://www.torque.net/linux-pp.html -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: pon permission problems
On Sun, Nov 30, 1997 at 10:27:47PM -0800, michael wrote: The pon command works from the root account but not from the 'michael' user account (mine's a single user system). Michael is a member of group pid and dialout. When michael executes pon the system issues the following complaint: You do not have permissions to access /etc/ppp.chatscript or /etc/ppp.options_out ls -l on ppp.chatscript: -rw--- 1 root root 235 Nov 27 11:54 /etc/ppp.chatscript ls -l on ppp.options_out: -rw--- 1 root root 108 Nov 27 12:01 /etc/ppp.options_out Clearly these files have the wrong permissions or owners. Which is it? Make these files mode 640 owner root group dialout. PS. I had installed Netscape Communicator vis dpkg (took a while to get the tar file named correctly). However, I didn't like the setup because it wouldn't run as root. So I deinstalled via dpkg then used the netscape install script. Any problems with that? PPS. I installed the jdk stuff via dpkg as well. It took a while to figure out why Netscape was exiting by itself. I thought Java was included with it, why isn't it and why does it crash without it (because I've got Java module support installed in the kernel?)? -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
qic-02
I am trying to set up a mountain qic-02 drive with debian. The default kernel seems to be compiled with qic-02 support, and comes up with a blurb on bootup about finding a tpqic device. I am not sure what device to use. TIA Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: qic-02
On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: Mike Schmitz admin0 wrote: I am trying to set up a mountain qic-02 drive with debian. The default kernel seems to be compiled with qic-02 support, and comes up with a blurb on bootup about finding a tpqic device. I am not sure what device to use. Take a look at the FTape howto. It should tell you everything you need to know. The Ftape howto explicitly says it does _not_ cover qic-02 tapes. Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: fstab question
On Thu, Oct 02, 1997 at 12:11:53AM -0400, Shaleh wrote: is there a way to specify an item without listing a fs type. I have an external parport device that I have both msdos and ext2 formatted disks for. I have separate lines in fstab corresponding to different directories. /dev/sda1 /mnt/lzip ext2noauto,user,umask=000 0 0 /dev/sda4 /mnt/dzip vfatnoauto,user,umask=000 0 0 -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ --- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: cdrom
On Tue, Sep 09, 1997 at 07:41:00PM +0100, Tao Lu wrote: Hi: I first time try Linux. After install base system and boot up, I use dselect to set package. Although the cdrom is installed succefully during driver disk, the dselect ask me following: Insert the CD-ROM and enter the block device name [/dev/cdrom]: What is the block device name I should enter? The easiest way to find out is with te use of 'dmesg'. it shows all the boot up messages. pipe it to more to be able to scroll thru. dmesg | more -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!
on the users list, therefore I will speak up on the matter. I have felt, and do consider myself in alignment with David Cinege and Paul Wade. I do not think that _any_ decision should be made on business, marketing, or political reasons, Whatever the cost, ONLY quality of the code and distribution should be considered. I believe that only harm can come from asking any government's sanction of the project, and money can only corrupt it. I apologize if my opinion is not shared by the majority, but it is mine, and all are free to disagree. -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: LILO Problems, Groan
On Aug 22, Paul Lange wrote Joy. I've installed Debian 1.3.1 fresh on a 486/66 with ~4 megs of ram. This machine is to be a router for home, but right after the install when I'm to reboot and see how my system goes, I get this as an error message when LILO won't load: 3FA: Yup. That's it. That on a line. Then, I booted from my boot disk, logged in as root, uninstalled lilo, reinstalled it, and got the same message when I rebooted. It doesn't even get to LILO. It stops right after it checks the floppy and gives the above informative message. Anybody have any ideas? -- Paul Lange University of Texas ECE LRC Unix Services internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.ece.utexas.edu/~pel make the boot line in /etc/lilo.conf read boot=/dev/hda - or sda for SCSI and run lilo alternatively, toggle the bootable flag on the partition that the boot line points at. -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: simple questions
On Aug 22, Robert S. Ross wrote I didn't get a satisfactory answer before, so I will try again. I know about LILO, it is on my boot diskette. How do I get it into the partition so my System Commander can call it? My Red Hat installation offers the option of booting from the partition, if I wish. How do I get Debian to do that? It is the default Unix, or Linux, is new to me, so I have learning curve to go through. Also0, how do I call Xwindows? When it is installed it gives you the option to set it up. It also gives you the option to use xdm so it starts at boot time. If you choose not to do this, you can use startx to begin it. -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dselect woes
On Aug 19, Brandon Mitchell wrote On Tue, 19 Aug 1997, Alfonso E. Urdaneta wrote: I'm trying to use dselect to no avail. First I tried to tell dselect to read the cdrom. chose option a, saw the following [ error sniped ] Is it recognized at boot up (try more | dmesg if you missed it)? If ^ Better make that dmesg | more ---| so, just mount it before going into dselect. (mount -t iso9660 /dev/ /cdrom, the should be apparent from dmesg. My ide cdrom uses hdc.) If it's not recognized, you may have to recompile your kernel to get the cdrom working. If all that did work, you may want to look at man fstab to make it more automatic. So I figure that I should try the FTP method instead. [ another error snipped ] How are you connecting to the net (or did you connect)? Also, did you set up the network correctly during installation? Good luck, Brandon -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: finger return No one logged on. and I am logged...... (fwd)
On Aug 14, Andrea Arcangeli wrote Anybody can report my same problem? Andrea Arcangeli -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:22:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrea Arcangeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Fries [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: finger return No one logged on. and I am logged.. On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, David Fries wrote: Are you logged in at console or with an rxvt in X? I don't have a problem with logging in the console, but it doesn't show up if I'm in a rxvt. I logged in the console, but w works also if I am logged in xterm: arca:~$ w 12:03pm up 5 min, 4 users, load average: 0.04, 0.07, 0.02 USER TTYLOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT andrea ttyp0 11:59am 0:22 0:00 0:00 -bash andrea ttyp1 12:00pm 2:09 0:00 0:00 -bash andrea ttyp2 12:01pm 0:04 0:00 0:00 pine andrea ttyp3 12:02pm 0:00 0:00 0:00 w arca:~$ last |head -5 andrea ttyp3:0.0 Thu Aug 14 12:02 still logged in andrea ttyp2:0.0 Thu Aug 14 12:01 still logged in andrea ttyp1:0.0 Thu Aug 14 12:00 still logged in andrea ttyp0:0.0 Thu Aug 14 11:59 still logged in reboot system boot Thu Aug 14 11:58 arca:~$ finger No one logged on. I want to know if is a finger problem or is caused by something other. I am sure the problem is caused by login. arca:~# /var/run/utmp arca:~# last -f /var/run/utmp utmp begins Thu Aug 14 16:16:46 1997 arca:~# login arca login: root Password: Linux arca 2.1.49 #2 Tue Aug 12 21:29:09 CEST 1997 i586 unknown Last login: Thu Aug 14 16:03:58 on tty1. No mail. arca:~# last -f /var/run/utmp ~***|*** * **`q * **ISun Apr 7 10:47 still logged in *r *Y**8* `q Thu Jan 1 01:08 still logged in *- *r `q Sat Jan 10 22:43 still logged in ***3 4*@ Thu Jan 1 01:00 - 19:12 (18:12) utmp begins Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 arca:~# Can be a libc problem? xterm login shell return the same problem of login from console. arca:~# ldd /bin/login libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x4000b000) arca:~# ldd /usr/bin/X11/xterm libXaw.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw3d/libXaw.so.6 (0x4000b000) libXmu.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x4005e000) libXt.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x4007) libSM.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x400b2000) libICE.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x400bb000) libXext.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x400d) libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x400db000) libncurses.so.3.0 = /lib/libncurses.so.3.0 (0x40179000) libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x401b6000) arca:~$ dpkg -l libc5 Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==- ii libc5 5.4.33-5 The Linux C library version 5 (run-time libr Any suggestions? Andrea Arcangeli On my machine: mike:~$ finger No one logged on. mike:~$ finger @localhost [localhost] Username Real name Idletime TTY Remote console location root root 15:09 1 (mike) mschmitz Mike Schmitz 20:00 2 (mike) root root 17:00 3 (mike) dialout dialout0:03 s1 (/usr/sbin/pppd ) Bug or feature? -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Looking for Talk - HOWTO
On Aug 8, Frank Barknecht wrote Mike Schmitz hat gesagt: // Mike Schmitz wrote: Rewrite your hosts file from /etc/ppp/ip-up, keeping the same name as is set in hostname. Here is an example: I have tried this now, but used an example from the Dynamic-IP-Hacks-mini-HOWTO like another user here suggested. Basically it is the same script as your example. To test this setup I rlogged in to a SUN in my university and tried to talk me. But again I only could see the message in my xconsole: in.talkd[1583]: connect from sun.foo.bar.de without getting a talk request in xterm. And yes: mesg is y. In my /etc/hosts now is the official ip-address and an offical DNS-name. The SUN in my university is permanently connected to the internet. SUN and I even share the same domain name now. Still I cannot talk to me!? From a previous answer to the same question by Igor Grobman: - Snip - Both of them do understand ntalk protocol. However, suns have their ntalk/talk ports switched as opposed to linux. Your /etc/services file should containt th e following lines: talk517/udp ntalk 518/udp On suns, talk would be port 518 and ntalk is 517. The solution is to fix this problem on one of the ends. -- Proudly running Debian Linux! Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Snip - HTH - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: pgp 5.0 for Linux beta 11!
On Aug 6, George Bonser wrote On Wed, 6 Aug 1997, Paul Miller wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 When you delete a message, doesn't Eudora delete the attachment? I've never used Eudora before, Netscape handles them real well. - -Paul Eudora (IIRC) SAVES the attachment as a separate file. It is up to you to keep them straight. By default it does not delete them automatically, but it gives you that option. -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Looking for Talk - HOWTO
On Aug 7, Frank Barknecht wrote Igor Grobman hat gesagt: // Igor Grobman wrote: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): So my question is: How can I be talked at my local Debian-machine?? You need to set your hostname to the one that resolves into your ip address. For example node32.yourprovider.com This can be done by modifying /etc/hosts each time you connect, or by using hostname command (and running it as root). Running 'hostname node32.yourprovider.com' will set your default hostname to the above. I tried this now, but it didn't seem to work. Instead I couldn't open my local display anymore for xterms and stuff, after I had changed the hostname as root. Isn't there another way? Rewrite your hosts file from /etc/ppp/ip-up, keeping the same name as is set in hostname. Here is an example: - snip - #!/bin/sh # /etc/ppp/ip-up: the command executed by pppd when IP comes up. # Copyright 1994 John A. Phillips - [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Parameters: # $1 = network interface used (e.g. ppp0) # $2 = pathname of serial device file (e.g. /dev/modem or /dev/ttyS1) # $3 = device speed (e.g. 38400) # $4 = local address (e.g. 158.152.16.94) # $5 = remote address (e.g. 158.152.1.222) PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin export PATH NETDEVICE=$1 TTYDEVICE=`basename $2` SPEED=$3 LOCAL_IP=$4 REMOTE_IP=$5 DATE=`date` # set DATE = current time # update the /etc/hosts file... # echo # # This file automatically generated by /etc/ppp/ip-up and should # indicate the correct dynamically allocated IP address below. # # This file generated on $DATE # 127.0.0.1 localhost $LOCAL_IP host.provider.com host /etc/hosts - snip - Replace the host entries with your hostname :-) HTH -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: qmail
On Aug 5, Bruno O. M. Simoes wrote Hi there I took this file in www.qmail.org and doesn't seem to work: taz# tar -xzf qmail-1_01_tar.gz tar: Skipping to next file header gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--crc error I couldn't descompress it. Does someone know either if there's a debian package compiled qmail or what There is a debian package for qmail in experimental. meant this error above? I have seen this error when I downloaded using a windows ftp client and did not make sure I was in binary mode. Thanks in advance Bruno -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
mgetty, g3tolj
I am using mgetty to receive faxes. I use g3tolj to put them in printable form for a HP Laserjet III. I get this error: EOF / read error at line 0 The page goes on to the printer, who complains about not having any A4 paper, and the script quits. If I hit the Continue/Reset button on the printer, it goes ahead and prints anyway. This works fine with single page faxes, but I get quite a few multi-page ones. TIA mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: perl script
On Jul 17, Ben Gertzfield wrote Mike == Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike I upgraded my system to hamm recently, and I am having Mike trouble with a script I have been using to create Mike invoices. The error message is: Mike -- Snip -- Mike mike:~$ invoice -n Illegal character \015 (carriage return) Mike at /home/mschmitz/bin/invoice line 3. (Maybe you didn't Mike strip carriage returns after a network transfer?) Mike -- Snip -- Mike The only transfers this script has gotten have been Mike accomplished by cp. If I put a # at the end of line 3, the Mike error just moves up one. Has anyone seen/solved this error? Perl 5.004 does not allow DOS carriage returns at the end of line. You will have to go through and remove all the ^Ms from the script. (an easy way to do that would be to 'pico filename', then just save) I don't have pico, and usually use only vim. Vim showed no ^M's so I was fairly satisfied that they did not exist. I started looking at the file in other editors on my system, ae xedit, ae showed none, but xedit saw them big as life. Is vim now trying to be compatible with M$?!! I may have to find a new editor. -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
perl script
I upgraded my system to hamm recently, and I am having trouble with a script I have been using to create invoices. The error message is: -- Snip -- mike:~$ invoice -n Illegal character \015 (carriage return) at /home/mschmitz/bin/invoice line 3. (Maybe you didn't strip carriage returns after a network transfer?) -- Snip -- The only transfers this script has gotten have been accomplished by cp. If I put a # at the end of line 3, the error just moves up one. Has anyone seen/solved this error? -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Making Kernel: Addendum
On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Michael Bucciarelli wrote: The second time around I also did make clean after make deb. Sorry I left this out. -- Mike Mike Bucciarelli, N7CK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Try make-kpkg clean HTH - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: color_xterm and xfm, where are they?
On Jun 25, Frank Barknecht wrote Emilio Lopes hat gesagt: // Emilio Lopes wrote: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): AR == Alberto Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AR I installed fvwm95 and the default settings have a color_xterm and AR xfm icons. I looked in all the debian packages but I could not AR find them. Can some tell where I can find color_xterm and xfm? Or AR Is there a better substitute for those programs? I also noticed The plain normal xterm can do colors. Just put the follwoing in your ~/.Xresources: #ifdef COLOR *customization: -color #endif Do a xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources and start a fresh xterm. Well, I also have a problem with colors in xterms. I get a colored ls with .Xresorces set up like you say, but how can other programms display their colorings in xterm. For example: I am using mutt for my e-mail. It is configured to colorize cites, WWW-URLs and Mail adresses, but this only works in a linux-console. And how do I get colors in lynx? I use rxvt to display mutt lynx. It gets the colors right without all the hassle. It also doesn't have the problem with termcap. -- Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
IP masq, Token Ring and dhcp
I have a client that I am setting up with IP masquerading. I've done this countless times with ethernet networks. In fact with this machine, I have it running in the office, working well. I take it to the customer's site, set the networking to Token Ring (the networking works, Telnet, Ping etc), but it won't masquerade. Another piece in the mix that I have not dealt with before is dhcp. They have a dhcp server, but the Debian box has a fixed IP. Any other info that would be helpful, just ask. TIA -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Fwd: amd problem
On May 22, Craig Sampson wrote On Thu, 22 May 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have a amd 5x86-133 cpu not a k5 when chip gets warmed up my floppy drives go belly up. i checked it out by putting a amd 486dx4 120 cpu in and the problem dis appered.i also have two fans, one on heat sink other blowing over heat sink. Make sure that you have heatsink paste between the heatsink the CPU, it makes a big difference. Craig You might also look at the voltage. Too much voltage can warm up a CPU. HTH -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Printer Resolution Problem.
On May 8, Jim Smith wrote Forgot to mention that I'm using Magicfilter, maybe the resolution can be reduced to 150 dpi there somewhere. Jim -- Debian Linux! Where I REALLY went today! Jim Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oz.net/~jim/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . 1. Find out where magicfilter put its' filter. [mike:~] grep if= /etc/printcap :if=/usr/sbin/dj500c-filter:\ 2. Edit that file, The postscript section is near the top. # PostScript 0 %! filter /usr/bin/gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r300 -sDEVICE =cdj500 -sOutputFile=- -^^^ 0 \004%! filter /usr/bin/gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r300 -sDEVICE =cdj500 -sOutputFile=- -^^^ Change the 300 to 150 -- Examples are for deskjet 500C but yours' should be similar -- HTH -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Where is the League for Programming Freedom?
On Feb 27, Alexander Gieg wrote I know it's not a Debian quetion, but I don't have access to Usenet, and don't know where I can ask for this. When I search for League for Programming Freedom in Altavista, Infoseek, Yahoo! etc., they all send me to http://www.lpf.org/ But this host hasn't a DNS entry! Anyone know their IP address, or where can I find these guys? I was trying for two weeks, in two ISPs, and with a 2 Mbps (E1) line, and nothing happens... :-( My DNS shows 128.52.46.33, but they didn't answer up to my pings. -- - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ -
Limiting bandwidth on ftp server
My ISP is considering allowing me to setup a debian mirror, but he is concerned that it may use excessive bandwidth, because of the possibility of someone with a fast data connection might use it. We thought about using a machine with a slip connection, but were hoping to do it with a virtual domain and a hard drive rather than dedicating a whole machine. Any ideas? -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: Mounting a file as a filesystem
Partition Magic will repartition a DOS or win95 volume without destroying data. It is also very easy to use. On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Simon Martin wrote: Hi all, I have two disks on my PC, hda=127 MB and hdb=1.6 GB. I am using hda for Debian, hdb is Win95. I installed Debian on hda as a test and promptly fell in love with it. Unfortunately I earn my living developing for Win 3.x/Win 95 and so cannot easily repartition my main disk. I heard some noise on this list about setting being able to mount a file as a filesystem. I would like to know how I can create say a 200MB file on hdb (Win 95) and mount it as a filesystem on say /usr. Is this possible? What do I need to do it? | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Simon Martin | Old software engineers never die, | they just fail to boot | | Any Trademarks used in this document are recognized | as Registered Trademarks of their respective owners. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pine and fvwm2
On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Pedro I. Sanchez wrote: Hello, I used to run pine under an xterm or rxvt while using fvwm and I had full cut/paste support (I mean, I could copy from the pine screen and paste into any other X-application and viceversa). Now that I am using fvwm2 the pine screen ignores the cut/paste events even though they work fine on the xterm and rxvt screens (other than pine). Can somebody give an idea on how to fix this? If you have the enable-mouse-in-xterm box checked cut paste no longer works. I don't know if that is what you have done, but that tripped me up for a while. In a separate issue, I liked the little virtual (sticky) desktop that used to show up in my screen allowing me to navigate from one virtual desktop to another by just clicking the appropriate rectangle. How do I enable this in fvwm2? Module FvwmPager. Read the FvwmPager man page for details Thank you for your info, Pedro Ivan -- +--+ | Mike Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.bend-or.com/~mschmitz | | Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ | | Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ | +--+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Caldera's WABI run on a Debian system?
On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, Rick Macdonald wrote: Mike Schmitz wrote: On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Rick Macdonald wrote: Does anybody know if Caldera's WABI will run on a Debian system? Caldera's web page kind of says maybe. I'm tempted to pay the $200 just so I can run Quicken without booting up DOS/Windows. Consider CBB. It will import quicken data and alerady runs under Linux natively. It lives at http://www2.me.umn.edu/~clolsen/cbb/cbb.html The URL doesn't seem to exist. Please check and let me know what it is! -- ...RickM... It comes up when I point my browser it's way. If you mean your nameserver doesn't have it, try http://134.84.197.48/~clolsen/cbb/cbb.html/ Good Luck, Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Caldera's WABI run on a Debian system?
On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Rick Macdonald wrote: On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Mike Schmitz wrote: Consider CBB. It will import quicken data and alerady runs under Linux natively. It lives at http://www2.me.umn.edu/~clolsen/cbb/cbb.html The URL doesn't seem to exist. Please check and let me know what it is! It comes up when I point my browser it's way. If you mean your nameserver doesn't have it, try http://134.84.197.48/~clolsen/cbb/cbb.html/ No, the name is resolved OK. It doesn't find the file. I get this error: File Not found The requested URL /~clolsen/cbb/cbb.html was not found on this server. I cut/paste with the mouse, so I didn't make a typing error. ...RickM... Sorry typo :-) http://www2.me.umn.edu/~clolson/cbb/cbb.html I looked at that several times before I caught it. I used cut paste this time to make sure. Mike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Caldera's WABI run on a Debian system?
On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Rick Macdonald wrote: Does anybody know if Caldera's WABI will run on a Debian system? Caldera's web page kind of says maybe. I'm tempted to pay the $200 just so I can run Quicken without booting up DOS/Windows. I haven't checked for awhile, but I assume that WINE is still a long ways away. I couldn't tolerate having my Quicken files corrupted! -- ...RickM... -- Consider CBB. It will import quicken data and alerady runs under Linux natively. It lives at http://www2.me.umn.edu/~clolsen/cbb/cbb.html Mike- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PPP Manual Dial?
On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, Jean Orloff wrote -- extra stuff deleted -- is getting on my nerves (and I won't let my wife or kids do that...). So what I would like is some graphical front-end to pppd, displaying the status, and with buttons to start/stop a connection. This could be started by root at boot time, solving the suid problems. (I tried chmod a+s /usr/sbin/pppd /usr/sbin/chat; chmod a+rx /etc/ppp/chat* but no way I could fire a ppp session as a simple mortal user...). Including a prompt for the password in such a setup would be relatively trivial. Does anyone know of something of this kind? I vaguely saw a related tool for diald: a good hint? Come on: we could easily do better than windoze and the uggly trumpet winsock on this one, and this is a huge selling argument! Amities, Jean Orloff + + + + + + + + ++ +Tel:(33)50.09.16.75 Fax:(33)50.09.94.95 http://lapphp0.in2p3.fr/~orloff/+ + + + + + + + + ++ The pistol of a flower is its only protections agenst insects. From science exams at high-school. + + + + + + + + + I use TKppp. I believe I got it from sunsite. I made a few modifications to suit my personality, but it it is mostly stock. It does auto-redial, auto-reconnect, and pings at an interval (user-defined) to keep your ISP from shutting you off if you take too long reading your mail :-\. --- If you choose for the lesser of two evils, you assure yourself of an evil. Check out the Libertarian Party http://www.lp.org Mike Schmitz[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.transport.com/~mschmitz To the last I grapple with thee ... -- Melville ---
