Re: alternative web browser to netscape
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:28:27 -0700 ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's great that you get around to making linux a part of your computing day, and you have a point in that regular desktop users who want all the bells and whistles seem to be accommodated more by microsoft than by any of the available linux distros right now. the point is that a lot of that accommodation is achieved by the cyber equivalent of smoke and mirrors where the actual cost to you and everyone else is kept out of sight. snip An excellent piece of prose!! Cheers Ben - your arguments make a lot of sense and I do agree with what you say. Maybe I hadn't realised the strong connection between Microsoft and the non-display of certain web pages - I suppose it is like the tip of an iceberg. I use Linux for all the reasons you state and as head of ICT in a UK school I resist MS products where possible. It could indeed be my cue to do something positive. Thank you for your superb reply! -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \ -- Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: alternative web browser to netscape
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:59:01 -0700 Petro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you agree with me that forcing commercial buildings to be handicap accessible is wrong? After all, they are being forced to do *major* redesigns of the buildings (much more time consuming and expensive than simply redesigning a web site) so a small percentage of extra people can get to them. No!!! Your analogy is all wrong - those with a disability have no choice, the able-bodied can choose whether to use Linux or Windows. We have that luxury. In a later email to the list (I replied to Ben and the message went to the German Debian User list) I wrote: An excellent piece of prose!! Cheers Ben - your arguments make a lot of sense and I do agree with what you say. Maybe I hadn't realised the strong connection between Microsoft and the non-display of certain web pages - I suppose it is like the tip of an iceberg. I use Linux for all the reasons you state and as head of ICT in a UK school I resist MS products where possible. It could indeed be my cue to do something positive. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative web browser to netscape
on Tue, Apr 09, 2002, Phillip Deackes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Define correctly display? For standard HTML, there's no problem. Ditto, if you want to abuse yourself by installing the plugins, most flash, Java, and Javascript, though I disable these, and don't patronize sites requiring same. Frankly, I don't think I lose much in the bargain. It's amazing watching the cattle lining up for slaughter. C'est la vie. sigh I have a PAL TV because I live in the UK and our terrestrial TV is broadcast in the PAL format. I think PAL is better than NTSC as used in the States, Japan etc.. If I move to the US I will take my PAL TV with me because it is better. I may only be able to watch PAL Videos, or the output from other kit I take with me, but what the hell - PAL is better. I would like to run my car on LPG. The fact that there are no service-stations near me selling it shouldn't matter - it is better for the environment and I think all cars should run on it. Hey, I might get it converted tomorrow. I am afraid I cannot be so arrogant about this. What I do on the Internet is not always to do with Linux, or with other such highbrow subjects. Sometimes I just want to play, or do some shopping. Yes, I have visited the Argos site, the Littlewoods Extra site and so on. No, they do not work well in Linux - but will not stop using these sites because I could be cutting off my nose to spite my face. I am not interested in telling web designers that they need to re-design their sites so that a small percentage of extra users can access them. I know they are wrong, but I just want to *use* the Internet to get things done. If my washing machine only washes certain items of clothing and other washing machines wash much more, then the answer is clear. The situation with Linux browsers is not so bad that such a choice is forced on us, but it is irritating. If the world and his dog is writing web sites to suit MS IE, then how does it help us to take the moral highground and refuse to budge? As a user, it helps me very little. Heck, if a stable version of IE was released for Linux I would use it. I might even buy it - AND I hate MS! -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative web browser to netscape
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 07:51:36 -0700 Jaye Inabnit ke6sls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last paragraph is indicative of the masses: I am not interested in telling web designers ~. Simply multiply that by your local census, and soon it becomes apparent how horrible problems begin. I *do* take the time to post notes to webmins when I hit a site I can not access without forking over money to M$. I don't have M$ on my box, and I am going to keep it that way, but I still want to access the info I am seeking. I don't think that it is asking too much. Apologies if I seem condescending, I don't mean to be. Not at all. No offence taken. I am not a programmer. I am an end user. At work I use Windows and can access almost every web site going. At home I have problem after problem *for whatever reason*. I share my house with a friend and he often uses my computer - it is very hard trying to explain why we are using Linux when he cannot access so may web pages. He is certainly not interested in the slightest what a web designer uses to create his/her web site - he just wants to access the information on it. If I suggested to him that he contact web designers to complain about their web sites he would think I was an idiot - 'I can access them using Windows, so what's the problem?' would be his retort. If you wish not to access sites written poorly, or using MS code, then you are free to make that choice. Let's have a web browser which accesses all web sites and I can have my choice too. The point I am trying to make is that if a large percentage of the world is using MS IE-specific code in spite of the best efforts of yourself and others, it is surely far easier for Linux programmers to change whatever is needed in Mozilla, Galeon et al. so that these pages can be accessed than to change the habits of the web-designers around the world. Whether we like it or not certain methods or techniques become the norm due to sheer weight of numbers using them. This is the way of the world. The best methods do not necessarily win through - the Video2000/Betamax/VHS issue immediately springs to mind where the poorest quality format won the battle. I do agree with you in principle, but in practice it is not you or me who decides what people use to design web-sites. Take care. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative web browser to netscape
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:58:16 -0400 Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: begin Phillip Deackes quotation: sheep rant deleted Wrap your text. Huh? AFAIK my email messages conform to what is expected amongst Linux circles. I was not aware of a problem - you are the first to suggest it. I am using Sylpheed to compose messages which are then sent using Exim. Can anyone else confirm that I have a problem with message text not wrapping correctly? Many thanks. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative web browser to netscape
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:22:27 -0400 Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it does, because it is an excellent example; a bunch of sheep used VHS, and we all got stuck with inferior technology as a result. A bunch of people who wanted to watch films and found they could get more VHS films than anything else. There is something inherently wrong with the notion that the hardware is more important than the software. I was one of those who bought into the Grundig/Philips V2000 format - and excellent it was too - but I now own two VHS VCRs because it would be pointless trying to keep going with Betamax or V2000 in a domestic situation. I have a friend who has a really cheap car stereo. He drives around singing to his music while I can't bear to listen because the quality is so poor. Is he wrong? I know that nothing you or I say will change our respective views. The issues we are discussing are but momentary and in no time at all they will be history. The way web content is created is surely unimportant - I just want to view it. In the same way I am not concerned with the way the BBC puts together my TV image or the way my TV set decodes it. As long as the end result gives me the quality and interest I desire I will view the programmes. If these 'terrible' web pages look bad or do not fulfil their purpose then it is on those criteria they should be judged not on the basis of whether the web designer used a MS product in their production. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative web browser to netscape
On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 14:22:25 +0200 Luca Pasquali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Galeon is the only substitute that I've in mind by now, links rox :-) keta Depends whether you do 'real-world' bowsing or not. There is no browser in Linux which can correctly display all web sites thrown at it. AFAIK Konqueror, for example, can't display secure web pages, ruling it out for things like on-line banking etc.. I need to use Opera, Galeon and Netscape 6 to cover most sites, and Netscape 4 is an indispensible backup because it usually displays those pages the others won't and the print quality is usually spot on. I have had many an argument with Linux zealots in the Opera newsgroups who tell me that Shockwave is a waste of bandwidth, that 'all these graphics' are totally unneccesary etc. etc. ad nauseum. I understand what they say, but that *is* the internet for most people, and they (and I) want to do real things which may have nothing to do with computers. I long for a Linux browser which I can use for everything. I agree that Galeon is probably the best at the moment - but it has a way to go. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMC 1211TX
On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:00:23 -0800 Alan Poulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List: I have an SMC 1211TX, PCI 10/100 NIC that I'm trying to get working with my Linux computer, but I'm running into problems. I also have this card and use the '8139too' kernel option. Works fine. I have compiled it into the kernel, rather than as a module. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving from ext2 to reiserfs
On 22 Mar 2002 15:38:16 +0800 Crispin Wellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The easiest way would be to convert it to ext3 instead. Use kernel 2.4.17 use tune2fs -j /deb/hdX to convert to ext3 Much easier and IMHO (Ive used both reiserfs and ext3 extensively) better. If anything goes wrong you can always mount it ext2. To convert to reiserfs would require a new HDD to partition/build the filesystems on, copy across the files and then replace your existing HDD with. Ext2 can be converted to ext3 on the fly. I agree with this. I have used xfs, reiser, ext2 and ext3. I had a corrupted hard drive when there was a bug in the earlier 2.4 kernels - I think this was when I used a Reiser filesystem. I tried xfs, which was nice, apart from the fact that xfs support is not available in mainstream kernels - a patch has to be obtained from SGI and the kernel patched. Ext3 seems to be an excellent compromise. In real use I notice no difference in speed between the filesystems I have used, but the sheer reliability of ext3 and the fact, as Crispin points out, that an ext3 filesystem can be mounted as ext2 if the need arises, tips the balance in its favour. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: Nvidia Debian Kernel
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:54:26 +0200 (EET) Kai Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the user list you mentioned building a kernel the debian way with nvidia stuff. I apt-get source kernel-source-2.4.18 No. I get a pristine kernel from ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/ then I uzip and untar in into /usr/src so that it creates /usr/src/linux. I change the directory name to match the kernel, eg. /usr/src/linux-2.4.18 and make a symlink to /usr/src/linux. I cd to the /usr/src/linux directory and run 'make xconfig' and run through all the options. At this point, I do the Debian bit, 'make-kpkg -rev Custom.N kernel_image'. I install the resultant .deb then do the NVIDIA bits exactly as in the accompanying documentation. I never use apt-get to obtain kernel sources - never have done. Hope this helps - it certainly works without errors here. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: latest Nvidia drivers
On 11 Mar 2002 10:37:57 -0600 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roy is describing build 1.0-2802, wherease in contrib is: nvidia-glx-src_1.0.2313-2_i386.deb nvidia-kernel-src_1.0.2314-2_i386.deb Have you gotten 1.0-2802 working in woody? I am using unstable and dpkg -l nvidia* gives me: ii nvidia-glx 1.0.2802-1 NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver ii nvidia-glx-dev 1.0.2313-2 NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver development ii nvidia-glx-src 1.0.2802-1 NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver ii nvidia-kernel- 1.0.2802-1+ext NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.4.18 ii nvidia-kernel- 1.0.2802-1 NVIDIA binary kernel module I don't use a stock Debian kernel - I always download the kernel source and compile it myself (the Debian way). -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: latest Nvidia drivers
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:53:01 -0800 Roy Pluschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anybody else found that the latest Nvidia drivers 1.0-2802 don't work! I have a tnt2 running on a 2.4 kernel in testing. No - they work fine here - Riva TNT2, Debian Unstable, kernel 2.4.18. Did you install the Debian package and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc to build the nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx packages? (As opposed to the tar.gz package). I used the Debian packages and everyhting worked as it should. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: WordPerfect Office 2000 on Debian
On Sun, 3 Mar 2002 19:39:03 +1100 Davor Balder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use AbiWord as well as OpenOffice... OpenOffice is nice too if you need plenty of nice features... As far as I am concerned, OpenOffice is my favorite for communications with those poor Word users... As a matter of fact I was writing all of my resumes with OpenOffice, converted docs to Word format and attached the with my job applications when I was looking for work... We've had decent and professional WordProcessing packages for Linux for some time now... :-) Hi Davor. Thanks for your input. OK, I do have StarOffice 6 Beta installed and it is OK, still very large. I tried OpenOffice yesterday and it wasn't nearly as stable. The first thing I noticed was that when I clicked on any menu item (like File.. Edit.. etc.) the drop down menus were not navigable with my mouse - they simply disappeared as soon as I tried. I could use the arrow keys on my keyboard but is was awkward. OpenOffice crashed a few times on me too. What version are you using? I downloaded the 641C version - but that was dated March 2001. Surely much must have happened in a year. The latest versions must be wonderful - how do you get them? What about compiling from source? Is it a problem? It just seems that we rarely get a polished product. I use Office 95 at work, and Word, Excel etc. open in a split second and are very stable. I also have the Windows version of StarOffice 6 and the startup splash screen stays on the screen for *ages* before anything happens. I am quite happy to pay money for a product. I bought Applix - nice, but still plenty of bugs/annoying features. As a teacher I do a lot of DTP-type work (worksheets etc.) and the ability to have pictures/diagrams in frames which can be moved around is essential. A 'Word Art' feature would also be extremely useful. For those who don't know it, Word Art is an MS OLE utility which turns text into an image which can be resized, reshaped, coloured, have borders around the letters etc. very simply indeed. I know I can use the Gimp, but it takes a lot more work to do simple things this way. The Star Office version of this is a joke. The availability of such a utility would be the one feature which would mean I could be truly rid of MS Windows at home! Take care. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: What shows what an uninstalled package does?
On Sun, 03 Mar 2002 11:37:56 -0800 Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Hermanowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yikes.. I guess the name is kind of a giveaway but the definition in the man page doesn't come across as giving that kind of information: Try installing Storm Package Manager (stormpkg) - a GUI to apt. Very nice - I always use it to find info about packages. It is also very good at highlighting optional packages which the command-line apt-get does not do. You should be able to do apt-get install stormpkg. It is available in testing and unstable. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: OpenOffice [was Re: WordPerfect Office 2000 on Debian]
On Sun, 3 Mar 2002 22:32:25 +0100 Hans Ekbrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kword from KDE is rather DTP oriented, have you tried it? Thanks for your reply, Hans. Yes, I have been looking at Kword and am impressed. It handles frames etc. very well. Maybe when it has a few more features I could use it. Take care. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
WodPerfect Office 2000 on Debian
I have a copy of Corel's WP Office 2000 which I have never managed to get working on my Debian unstable box. Using some advice I found on the 'net I managed to at least eliminate the fontastic font server errors, but now when I enter 'wordperfect' it tells me it is 'Building font metrics. This may take some time...'. That message stays on screen for ever. I left it all night and it was still there in the morning. Any ideas? I know Corel WordPerfect 2000 for Linux is not very good, I know StarOffice, Applix, KOffice et al are better, but I would just like to try it. Many thanks. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: WordPerfect Office 2000 on Debian
On 02 Mar 2002 00:55:36 -0900 Greg C. Madden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not much traffic there now but the archive is very helpful. news://cnews.corel.com/corel.wpoffice.office2000-linux Thanks, Greg. It does appear CWP for Linux is a terminal case - Xandros, the new owners of Corel Linux, have not bought the rights to it and Corel have washed their hands of Linux since Microsoft injected cash into the company. I have read through the messages in the newsgroup, but have not come up with an answer and it really doesn't seem worth the effort. Why is it taking so long to get decent GUI wordprocessing in Linux? StarOffice is OK, but version 5 was/is a joke the way it enforces the riduculous SO desktop on users. We do need something similar to MS Office, Lotus SmartSuite, whatever. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Spamassassin and allowing mail through
I have SpamAssassin working perfectly with Exim (thanks to dman!) but I cannot workout how to specifically allow through an email which falls foul of SA. I subscribe to a newsletter which SA marks as SPAM. Here are the headers: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mail by scgf.runbox.com with spam-scanned (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16WjKr-nk-00; Fri, 01 Feb 2002 19:26:57 + Received: from scgf.runbox.com (localhost) [127.0.0.1] by scgf.runbox.com with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16WjKr-n5-00; Fri, 01 Feb 2002 19:26:57 + Received: from pluto.runbox.com [193.71.199.39] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.9.6) for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Fri, 01 Feb 2002 19:26:57 + (GMT) Received: from [208.184.157.58] (helo=3ws.com) by fetch.runbox.com with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16WjId-0003Us-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 01 Feb 2002 20:24:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 374230 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Feb 2002 19:24:37 - Date: 1 Feb 2002 19:24:37 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *SPAM* Learning Styles Newsletter X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=5 required=5 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,DEAR_FRIEND,CALL_1_800,ASCII_FORM_ENTRY X-Spam-Flag: YES I can see in /etc/spamassassin/spamassassin.cf there are opt outs for Debian bug messages, but I can't seem to apply a similar rule to the above email. man spamassassin doesn't help at all. Many thanks. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: Spamassassin and allowing mail through
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002 14:24:52 -0500 Justin R. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have a look at the whitelist feature, where you can specify addresses that are ignored by spamassassin. Thanks, Justin. I'd missed that one. Do you happen to know if you can whitelist a whole domain, or at least use a wildcard in an address? -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: announcing documentation on setting up exim with spamassasin
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:35:41 -0500 dman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, as for not getting X-Spam-Status, take a (real) message in a file (call it msg). What does : $ cat msg | spamc -f | grep -i spam output? It should outupt the X-Spam headers and the SPAM: report (if there was one). Hi dman. Last night I received quite a few email messages and a few of them were SPAM. SA correctly filtered out the SPAM messages, and put them is the desired file. Since I use Sylpheed, which stores mail in the mh-style format, is there any way to get Exim to file messages in this way? I know procmail can do it, but can Exim? Cheers. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: announcing documentation on setting up exim with spamassasin
On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 23:52:11 -0500 dman([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: have just whipped up some documentation regarding setting up exim and spamassassin. Basically I just outlined my setup, which Works For Me :-). Thanks dman. I have set it all up as you outlined, and each email now has the line 'Received: from mail by scgf.gmx.co.uk with spam-scanned (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian))' in the headers. I never get an 'X-Spam-Status:' header, though. I did exactly what you said, and added the filter lines to my .forward file. I commented out procmail, so am not using it at all at the moment. all the mail is coming through, but nothing is being blocked. Do I still need procmail to be running, ie. is your configuration *on top of* the basic SA setup, or instead of? I am using the latest Debian package of Spamassassin, 2.01-1. It looks like the conf file in /etc/spamassassin is empty - should there be anything there? Should I revert back to an older version of SA? Many thanks for your help. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: [SAtalk] Re: announcing documentation on setting up exim with spamassasin
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:35:41 -0500 dman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, as for not getting X-Spam-Status, take a (real) message in a file (call it msg). What does : $ cat msg | spamc -f | grep -i spam output? It should outupt the X-Spam headers and the SPAM: report (if there was one). No - it did not appear to do anything at all. I downloaded the older version of SA (1.5-5) and installed it. Now when I do the above I get the X-Spam headers and SPAM report. I will await some SPAM to se whether it all works correctly. Thanks again. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: How can I get the Euro symbol?
On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:31:29 -0800 Henry House [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can also use ISO-8859-15 (Latin9) instead of Latin1. This has a Euro symbol but is still a 8-bit encoding so there is little or no software breakage. ISO-8859-15-encoded fonts are available in the latest XFree86 and could be gotten from www.xfree86.org and installed in /usr/local. Thanks Henry. I appreciate your response. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
DSL router and networking - Help!
I have just signed up for a wires-only adsl account with Eclipse internet in the UK. For those of you not from the UK, wires-only has only recently been introduced here and involves the telecoms company (BT) switching on ADSL at the exchange. The user is required to purchase the modem and microfilters for each extension in the house. I will have one static IP address. Today I received confirmation that the account has been set up and will go live on Monday. I have ordered an Alcatel SpeedTouch Pro single-port adsl router - DSLSource have just reduced the price to 138 quid + VAT, and given neither SEG nor Solwise have their alternatives in stock I feel I have a bargain. Anyway, I currently have two PCs networked and an NTL cable modem (connected to the Linux box) which will be sent back asap. One machine runs Linux, the other Windows. I use Samba on the Linux box so that the Windows machine can print to the Linux printers, and squidso that the Windows machine can access web sites. In my Linux PC I have two network cards. One card is connected to thecable modem, the other to a small 4 port Netgear hub. When I get the SpeedTouch Pro I intend removing the second card on the Linux box since the STP can be plugged into my hub. What I would like to do is to continue using the networking I have already setup for file sharing and printing (though there will obviously be some reconfiguring with there being a single nic in the Linux box. The quick setup guide for the STP uses DHCP as a default which would be great apart from the fact I can't see how I would be able to network the two machines if the IP addresses keep changing. Looking through the manual, I see sections for all sorts of protocols. Eclipse Internet tell me to use RFC2364 PPPoATM VC Encapsulation Multimode AutoModulation. The nearest I can find in the STP manual is either PPoA-to-PPTO relaying or PPP IP routing. Which should I use? I would imagine I would need to allocate a static IP address to each machine (ideally what I already use - 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.0) this would surely mean that the networking would just carry on working. How do I accomplish what I want to do? I am eternally grateful to anyone who can explain what appears to me to be something of a Black Art!! Many thanks. BTW I am using Debian (Unstable) on my main machine and Windows 98 on the second machine upstairs. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: How to start OSS/Commercial Automatically + upgrade LD
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 04:27:52 -0500 (EST) Ben Bogart - FMPM/F1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I've installed debian and have to say I feel quite a bit more at home with Debian than any other Linux system I've used. I am a NetBSD user for the mostpart. Good. You might like Gentoo Linux (www.gentoo.org) even more - it has a similar package management system to BSD apparently. I have a few questions, first off how can I run the soundon command to start up OSS automatically at bootup? I have a small file called oss in /etc/rc.boot: #!/bin/sh /usr/local/bin/soundon Make the file executable (chmod ug+x /etc/rc.boot/oss) and make sure the path is correct for your systen. Second I'm running a Nvidia GeForce2 MX-400 with linux and am having strange crashes (the X server exits with signal 11 I think) anyhow according to Nvidia this could be because the linker (ld) is of an old version... Can I upgrade my ld to a new version? I too have a graphics card which requires the Nvidia drivers. I downloaded the tar.gz pacakage from Nvidia, unzipped/untarred it and ran 'make install'. I have had no problems with it at all. Mind you, I run Debian unstable. It might be worth your while upgrading your version of Debian if you are running Potato. Have you made the requisite changes to the XFree config file in /etc/X11? I'm already running kernel 2.4.16 with many of the tools recompiled from source (all those suggested by 2.4.16 installation) so ld would just be another one. I wouldn't have done that. You will have dependency problems with other packages if Debian doesn't know what is installed on your system, especially with important system files. Debian testing or unstable are very usable and to most Debian users they are more stable than what RedHat might refer to as stable. If you point /etc/apt/sources.list to either testing or unstable and do 'apt-get update' then 'apt-get install xyz' you would get the latest version of that app - the only issue is that other apps and libs would also be upgraded along the way. It is a problem with Debian where the roll-out time for new version takes so long. Potato is rather long in the tooth now and I would imagine a great many Debian users are actually running testing or unstable. I have been running Unstable for a long time and have had few problems. If you subscribe to this list you will be aware when something breaks and know not to upgrade until the issue is resolved. Unless you are running a mission-critical system it is the way to go. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: How can I get the Euro symbol?
On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:48:37 -0600 Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It might be worth having a look at the Euro-Char-Support mini-HOWTO (/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/mini/Euro-Char-Support/index.html if you have doc-linux-html installed, or somewhere on http://www.linuxdoc.org/). I'm not sure if it's good enough either - it was put together quite recently - but it does at least have the virtue of being concise. Thanks for your help, Colin and Sean. The document you mention is the problem. It does not help me at all. For instance, it says that automatic configuration is possible with the 'lang-env' package. I cannot find any package with a name like 'lang-env'. A search of Debian packages yields nothing. Furthermore, paragraphs such as this are pretty incomprehensible to me: Programs use the localisation environment in order to know both the language and the charset being used. Currently there is no separation, unless you are using UTF-8 from locale and representation. Environment locales use both the language for example: es_ES.ISO-8859-1 en_US.utf What is .utf? Why are there certain files containing 'euro' but not others. Why might I be inetersted in installing a Spanish language file. I did enable the French Euro file, since I speak French, but this does not appear to help. Do I need to enable it? I have been using Linux for some years now, and have helped many with their installations. If I am left confused and usable to add Euro support to my box, what hope is there for others who are just starting along the rocky Linux road? I see no need to understand localisation issues. I want to be able to choose my language/keyboard and do little more. I appreciate that adding the Euro symbol is not as simple as it sounds, but somebody who knows how to do it should be able to write a step-by-step crib sheet so that other can get it working on their systems. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: How can I get the Euro symbol?
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 16:15:42 -0500 dman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is 'language-env'. According to 'apt-cache policy' I don't think it is in potato. (potato is _really_ _really_ old) Many thanks, dman. What you have written makes sense to me - I shall read it over the next day or so and attempt to put it into practice. Shame about GTK, since this is what most of the apps I run use :-( I appreciate the time and effort you have taken to help me to understand. Take care. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
How can I get the Euro symbol?
I have carefully read through the Debian Euro HOWTO and am now more confused than before. Basically I do not understand what I am supposed to do. In true Linux style, the HOWTO makes too many assumptions about what I already understand about locales etc.. All I want is a simple set of instructions, no explanations necessary. Step one - do this, step two - do that, and so on. I am really not interested in the ins and outs of localisation. Has anyone written the dummy's version of this document? It's not like we in the UK are moving over to the Euro (unfortunately) tomorrow, but there will be a need to use the symbol accasionally. Thanks. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: What's a debian kid look like?
On 24 Dec 2001 17:44:44 -0500 Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, but when a business chooses degenerate mail and forces everyone to use it, I'd be pretty suspicious of high-level idiocy within the business. It is about *choice* not just your choice but that of others working in the company too. Imagine if each employee had a different opinion - there are a plethora of different OSs and MUAs out there - and if each employee was this dogmatic. I am ICT Coordinator in a school, so I am in a position where I could move from Windows NT4/Windows 98 to a Linux solution, but I must consider the opinions, however misguided, of other users in the school. Democracy is like that. The majority opinion is in a great many cases not the best opinion. Are you like this when your company offers you a company car? Would you resign because it was not the car you would have preferred? -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: What's a debian kid look like?
On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 14:21:27 -0800 Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phillip Deackes wrote: On 24 Dec 2001 17:44:44 -0500 Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, but when a business chooses degenerate mail and forces everyone to use it, I'd be pretty suspicious of high-level idiocy within the business. I did not write that, it was written in a response to my email. Sorry, Erik. I thought I had sorted all the nested quotes and arrived at the author of the quote - and this where we all correctly bottom-post. Goodness knows how they do it where everyone top-posts! I assumed a single before ' wrote' would match up to a single before a response. Maybe somewhere along the line the attribution got mangled. Then looking at your post I think I have got it wrong. No quote before 'xxx wrote' matches single quote before comments. I think I have eaten and drunk too much!! Take care. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: What's a debian kid look like?
On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 19:48:59 -0800 Cam Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Matt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: them but using them all the same. I grabbed OS/2 when Warp came out -- always had an aversion to M$ -- and hung onto that until a little after slink came out; then I made the switch to Debian, though I had considered BSD (before I got into OS/2, which I still like), and also Slackware, which looked like too much work. I too arrived at Debian via OS/2. I really miss it though - I know it is still around, albeit only just. I wish IBM would release the OS/2 GUI for Linux. I like Linux, but I am exasperated sometimes by the lack of comformity within X and how silly things like copying and pasting works between most apps but not others, or how I can't get the Euro symbol despite having followed advice from others who have achieved it, or how I sometimes get silly little boxes instead of fonts - again I have followed advice from all quarters - xfs on, xfs off, changing lines here, changing lines there. Exasperating describes Linux well! -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: What's a debian kid look like?
OK, male, 44 years old, British living in the UK. We usually don't feel the need to explain the colour of our skin, but I am white. I am a teacher in a 10-14 high school in Leicestershire. I used to teach French, but am now Head of ICT. Have dabbled with many Linux distros but found the Debian branch some time ago. Looking forward to Xandros Linux. I have no programming or other coding experience apart from writing some very basic bash cripts for my box. Politically very anti control by others who grant themselves the authority to control - government or school authorities! -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: Requesting a trackball recomendation
On Sun, 9 Dec 2001 15:41:14 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone recomment a three button trackball with a ps2 connector that is supported by linus? (Preferably an optical trackball) Hi Emmet. I use the Logitech Trackman Marble FX. It is an optical trackerball and as such it is very easy to keep clean. The large ball just pushes out and accumulated fluff etc. can be blown away. The design is excellent and is very comfortable to use once you get used to it - you do need to give it time. I would steer well clear of the Microsoft trackerball mice - IMHO they are tacky and nowhere near as pleasant to use as the Logitech. I have never successfully used the fourth button scrolling feature of the Logitech - the fourth button can be set up as just another button in your window manager setup, though I don't bother. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: procmail recipe not working
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 10:43:32 +0530 Raghavendra Bhat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get yourselves the razor, dman. It is very good at catching and reporting spam. apt-get install razor I did this yesterday, but had to abandon it. I got quite a few errors and messages sent back to the originator of the emails. This is part of my /var/log/exim/mainlog: 2001-12-06 19:20:57 16C44j-MI-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=localhost [127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=421565 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2001-12-06 19:20:59 16C44j-MI-00 ** |/usr/bin/procmail -f- [EMAIL PROTECTED] D=userforward T=address_pipe: return message generated 2001-12-06 19:21:00 16C44q-MP-00 = R=16C44j-MI-00 U=mail P=local S=107584 2001-12-06 19:21:00 16C44j-MI-00 Error message sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2001-12-06 19:21:00 16C44j-MI-00 Completed 2001-12-06 19:21:00 16C44q-MP-00 == [EMAIL PROTECTED] routing defer (-45): domain is in queue_remote_domains 2001-12-06 19:23:01 Start queue run: pid=1395 2001-12-06 19:23:13 16C44q-MP-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp H=smtp.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.40] 2001-12-06 19:23:13 16C44q-MP-00 Completed 2001-12-06 19:23:13 End queue run: pid=1395 2001-12-06 19:31:10 16C4Eg-Mf-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=localhost [127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=2545 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2001-12-06 19:31:10 16C4Eg-Mf-00 ** |/usr/bin/procmail -f- [EMAIL PROTECTED] D=userforward T=address_pipe: return message generated 2001-12-06 19:31:11 16C4Eh-Mm-00 = R=16C4Eg-Mf-00 U=mail P=local S=3625 2001-12-06 19:31:11 16C4Eg-Mf-00 Error message sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2001-12-06 19:31:11 16C4Eg-Mf-00 Completed 2001-12-06 19:31:11 16C4Eh-Mm-00 == [EMAIL PROTECTED] routing defer (-45): domain is in queue_remote_domains 2001-12-06 19:38:02 Start queue run: pid=1418 2001-12-06 19:38:04 16C4Eh-Mm-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp H=smtp.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.40] 2001-12-06 19:38:04 16C4Eh-Mm-00 Completed 2001-12-06 19:38:04 End queue run: pid=1418 2001-12-06 19:53:01 Start queue run: pid=1425 2001-12-06 19:53:01 End queue run: pid=1425 2001-12-06 20:01:42 16C4iE-Nu-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=localhost [127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=4386 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2001-12-06 20:01:42 16C4iE-Nu-00 ** |/usr/bin/procmail -f- [EMAIL PROTECTED] D=userforward T=address_pipe: return message generated 2001-12-06 20:01:42 16C4iE-O1-00 = R=16C4iE-Nu-00 U=mail P=local S=5466 2001-12-06 20:01:42 16C4iE-Nu-00 Error message sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2001-12-06 20:01:42 16C4iE-Nu-00 Completed I have a .forward file like this: # Exim filter == do not edit or remove this line! if error_message then finish endif logfile $home/eximfilter.log if $h_To: contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] then deliver scott elif $h_To: contains sah1 then deliver scott else pipe /usr/bin/procmail -f- endif And a .procmailrc like this: # Augment $PATH as necessary. PATH=/usr/local/bin:$PATH ORGMAIL=/var/spool/mail/$LOGNAME DEFAULT=$ORGMAIL :0 Wc razor-check :0 Waf formail -i Subject: Razor Warning: SPAM/UBE/UCE I have posted about this to the razor-user list, but maybe a fellow debian user might be more helpful. Thanks for any help you can give. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: procmail recipe not working
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 13:40:18 -0500 dman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I did this yesterday, but had to abandon it. I got quite a few errors and | messages sent back to the originator of the emails. This is part of my | /var/log/exim/mainlog: I think this might be relevant - http://www.exim.org/FAQ.html#SEC176 Thanks, dman. There were two problems. I had missed off the pipe symbol for formail in my procmail receipe - consequently the mail I thought was lost was actually in ~/formail - unsurprisingly. The messages sent to the sender have now been stopped by commenting out 'return_output' in my exim.conf. I appreciate your help. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: Something more user friendly than XMMS?
On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 15:30:56 -0600 DvB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gnome also has a mp3 player called Gnomp3 but the web page has been locked and it's development status is listed on gnome.org as N so it looks like you're out of luck when it comes to a native gtk mp3 player... you can also see for yourself: http://www.gnome.org/applist/listrecent.php3?category_query=Sound%20Tools I just installed the debian package of gnomp3 - I tried to play some mp3 files on my system and I couldn't work out how to do it within a few seconds. It gets the thumbs down from me if you are looking for intuitive, user-friendly apps.. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: Squid in a school - problems with https
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:02:44 -0500 Me [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 08:05:05PM +, Phillip Deackes wrote: You should contact the opera people and see if they will sponsor your schoool and give you the full version to use. You could offer to distribute their ad versioned browser on CD to all the kids. Could be a great coup for both sides. Thanks for your suggestion, Joe. I have just emailed Opera with such a proposal. I am sure that with 850 students and staff it would be excellent publicity for them. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: Squid in a school - problems with https
On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:44:00 + (UTC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miquel van Smoorenburg) wrote: IE has the tendency to not show the errors that are being generated by the remote server or by the proxy, but to replace it with its own error message. You can turn that off somewhere, I believe, which would make trouble shooting a *lot* easier. OK, thanks everyone who helped me with the problem. It was indeed an Internet Explorer issue. I installed Opera on a test Win 98 workstation and it worked perfectly. I have now taken steps to move over to Opera as our browser of choice. The free version does have adverts, but I have configured it to show those which could be deemed 'educational'. The pupils see advertising on nearly every site they visit anyhow so the occasional advert in Opera does them no harm! -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: sound w/via chipset
On Sat, 24 Nov 2001 20:38:39 -0500 Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently replaced my motherboard with a BioStar M7VKL, which uses a VIA VT8364 chipset, also known as Apollo KL133. After a bit of fiddling, I have everything working except the video and the sound. (I think.) I too have a MB with this chipset. I bought the commercial version of OSS which got it working very quickly. Not a very good sound chip, though. I decided to disable it and get a Creative Labs soundcard instead. I still use OSS because it really is a no-brainer. Works perfectly and doesn't cost much. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Networking a Linux and a Window workstation
I have recently added a second NIC to my Debian box and connected a small Netgear hub. I have connected a second PC running Windows 98 to the hub. My primary network card is connected to a cable modem which uses DHCP to obtain dynamic IP address. I have allocated a private internal IP address to the second card. I am running squid so that I can point the second PC to it and get a basic Internet connection. I did it this way because it is simple and I find networking something of a Black Art. I would now like to be able to print and possibly send files to my Linux box from the Windows machine. I have been doing some reading and have installed Samba, but have made little progress. I am not sure how to set up Samba - I have been through the /etc/samba/smb.conf and made an attempt to set up a password with smbpasswd. The trouble is, what exactly am I setting the password for? Is it the password I will need on the Windows machine to access my Linux box? Do I need shadow passwords (don't even know what they are!)? Does anyone know if there is an idiot's guide to setting this up anywhere? A guide which does not assume a great deal of prior knowledge of networking? Many thanks. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: Which installer? Aptitude, dselect deity...
On Thu, 8 Nov 2001 20:53:51 -0800 Craig Dickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since you recommended it, I installed and took a look at stormpkg. My first impression is that it doesn't give me as much information as dselect, and makes it harder to get at. For one thing, I have several Python packages marked hold currently because of the ongoing transition in Sid, but stormpkg doesn't show me that they're on hold. Also, like aptitude, stormpkg doesn't seem to call my attention to things that need upgrading the way dselect does; there's no single place where all the packages that can be updated are listed. Nor does stormpkg give me any indication of packages that are installed on my system, but which are no longer in the package repository. Am I just missing something here? If I can get these things from stormpkg, then fine, but if not, then I don't think much of it. No, I don't think you are missing anything. I have no need for any of the requirements you mention, so I find it excellent for my needs. I don't think you will find any single utility which does everything you want. All I ever do with apt-get is 'apt-get update', 'apt-get install ' or 'apt-get -u dist-upgrade'. My needs are simple!! I find GUIs for apt or dselect rather confusing - Gnome Apt is a nightmare for me. I prefer the simplicity of Stormpkg - the only thing which comes close is KPackage, but this is a front-end to dpkg rather than apt or dselect. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Exim and nospam -how do I pipe using .forward?
I am trying to setup 'nospam' from http://www.bero.org/NoSpam/ I have compiled the binary and placed it in /usr/local/bin The readme file gives instructions for piping the mail using Procmail: :0 fw: * ^.* | /usr/bin/nospam I use Exim with a .forward file. What would I need in .forward to do the same thing? Cheers -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: How do I configure eth1 on bootup?
On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:44:44 -0800 (PST) Andrew Agno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I guess I should have read the man page as well :) address address Address (dotted quad) required netmask netmask Netmask (dotted quad) required Thanks Andrew and Kurt. The above worked fine. I can now access my cable modem from another machine via squid without doing anything other than booting up both machines. Cheers guys. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: Which installer? Aptitude, dselect deity...
On Wed, 7 Nov 2001 21:33:24 +0100 Johnny Ernst Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I only know two installers (apt-get and dselect), and have only seen other peoples comments on the other two (aptitude and deity). The sad truth is that currently there is _no_ installer recommendable for a _beginner_. I strongly recommend the Storm Package Manager (stormpkg) currently in testing and unstable. No other GUI interface to apt-get comes close. Stormpkg makes it easy whether you want to do a full upgrade or install just one package, or look at what you have on your system already, or see what is available. The file /etc/apt/sources.list can also be managed from within stormpkg. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: How do I configure eth1 on bootup?
On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 12:30:26 -0800 (PST) Andrew Agno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out /etc/network/interfaces. You need something like: auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 192.168.1.1 Also check out 'man interfaces' Thanks, Andrew. I get the interface up, but without the IP address. This is what my /etc/network/interfaces file looks like: auto lo eth0 auto eth1 # The loopback interface iface lo inet loopback # The ethernet interface iface eth0 inet dhcp hostname scgf01 iface eth1 inet static address 192.168.1.1 Have I missed something? Many thanks indeed -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
How do I configure eth1 on bootup?
Flushed with the success of getting squid working at school, I decided to install it on my machine at home as an easy way to share my cable modem with my house-mate. Again, it works really well. The command I need to setup my second network card is 'ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.1 up'. What I would like to do is have this set up for me automatically when my machine boots. I can't see where I would need to put the command. Can anyone help me out, or point me in the right direction? Many thanks. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Squid in a school - problems with https
I am posting this message to both the Debian User and Leicester LUG lists, in the hope that someone can help. A while ago in the school where I am ICT Coordinator I set up a Linux machine running Squid in order to help make our paultry 128K Internet connection work better when 60 machines are using it. At the time, members of the Leicester LUG helped greatly with setting it up. Unfortunately I had to abandon the project because of a couple of bugs with our RM Connect 2.4 network. Now I am in a position to set it up again. I have installed Debian on a decent spec machine and installed squid 2.4. All our Windows 98 workstations are able to access web pages through the squid proxy. The problem we are having is that secure web pages cannot be accessed. Any https page is rejected. Our machines use Internet Explorer 5. I have setup IE5 to use the proxy for all protocols. Trawlling through the news archives it is obviously a lot of people are having problems accessing secure web sites using squid. If there is no easy solution, would moving to an older version of squid help? We are not bothered about features, we just need a way of maximising our Internet connection. Many thanks indeed for your help. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: Squid in a school - problems with https
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 20:33:18 +0100 martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [cc'ing to debian-user since this is about the 15th time i am answering this question... which i am glad to do, don't get me wrong!] Sorry - I spent much of Friday and today going through newsgroups (Debian-User is also a newsgroup) and found very little which helps. Even the squid documentation and FAQs don't help much. does this make sense? Perfect sense. It's just that I don't know how to *do* what you suggest. On our network it appears I either specify a proxy server or not. It is either set to our ISP's proxy, or to our local proxy. I need a way of telling *squid* to pass through SSL requests untouched, as it were. I don't have a way of specifying different proxies for different protocols, as far as I can see. Many thanks for your help. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: Squid in a school - problems with https
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 12:06:14 -0800 (PST) nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: would be helpful if you gave error messages. i am writing this email from squirrelmail(web email) running on apache-ssl, composing from Opera 5.0/linux running through a squid 2.2.5 proxy through SSL no problems. i use squid everyday on ssl and have never had a problem. Normally when a url is unavailable I get a Squid error message. When I try and access an secure site, I get an IE5 message complaining that there is a DNS error and the address cannot be found. I am at home at the moment, but will be at school tomorrow when I can dig out the exact error message. Do a search on Google for 'squid SSL' and see how many hundreds of messages there are saying that secure pages cannot be accessed when running squid. I am not alone by a long way!! BTW, does Apache do web caching too? Is it a simpler alternative to squid? what EXACTLY are you having problems with? is it saying permission denied? or is it hanging or what? what does squid logs say? I will dig out the squid logs tomorrow. ive been usin squid for a couple years now and no problems.. i haven't seriously used IE in at least 3 years so if its IE specific i can't help. does the problem occur in other browsers? We need to run IE5 because of the hybrid nature of our Connect network. We have over 800 users and have admin utilities and registry strings to ensure that when pupils log on their email addresses etc. are assigned according to their usernames. We had to buy a Web Integration Package to upgrade to IE5, we were told not to simply install the usual version obtainable off the net, so I am loathe to change browsers. I am not sure there is anything useful at the moment for the Windows platform anyhow, apart from IE5. Netscape is falling apart IMHO and in its version 6 incarnation is unusable. It might be useful if you could email me your squid.conf. Please cc. any reply to my school address - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Many thanks. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Problem with Gnome Filetypes Programs on Woody+
I have tried a few Debian, Progeny, Storm and Libranet installs. On each I can successfully set up file associations for GMC using the Filetypes and Programs option in Control Center. As soon as I upgrade to Woody or Unstable, I can't. I can go through the motions of assigning an application and icon in Control Center, but it has no effect on the actual file icons. When I try and open them I get the application chooser, and my chosen icon is not displayed. When this has happened with basic desktop icons in the past I have deleted the file ~/.gnome/metadata.db and this has curied the problem. This does not help with this particular problem. I have even tried renaming/moving ~/.gnome altogether. I have even created a new user and still I can't set up the associations. It doesn't seem to matter whether I use Debian Gnome of Ximian Gnome. Is this a known problem? Is there a workaround? -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Using GMC with Windowmaker
Not strictly a debian question, but I decided today to move away from Gnome KDE and try using Windowmaker. Lovely window manager, but I really need a filemanager. I use my desktop extensively for dropping files etc.. Windowmaker doesn;t seem to have such a beast, so I tried running Gnome's GMC. Seems to work well in this context. I assume I am not adding Gnome's bloat onto Windowmaker am I? Does anyone know what Gnome files I would need to retain on my system to run GMC without the rest of the Gnome environment? Any other suggestions for good file managers which use the desktop paradigm? Many thanks. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: Star Office 6
On Sat, 13 Oct 2001 07:12:06 -0700 sheine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I changed the permissions and got new troubles. The soa and sop files started, but told me that I did not have enough disk memory, when I am reasonably sure that I do. The first so file told me that I needed the directory on the last so file. When I tried it, I was told that a bin file couldn't be executed. Has anyone made this thing work? Yes. It is wonderful too. I ran the x.bin file (as root) like this: x.bin -net I installed it into /opt/staroffice6.0 Once installed, I ran to /opt/staroffice6.0/setup which installed a few files into my home directory. I prefer to install this way, I don't like executable apps in home. Runs very smoothly. I am head of the ICT department in a UK high school and have installed the Windows version of Star Office at school. It works so well I am seriously considering ditching MS Office. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: Trouble with Gnome
On Sun, 09 Sep 2001 17:30:01 -0400 Casey Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm running Debian unstable and everything's working good except a couple small problems. First, when I right-click on the Gnome desktop, nothing happens. No menu pops up. Thus I cannot create shortcuts to files or programs. There does appear to be a problem - my system exhibits it too. I changed window managers to icewm-gnome instead of the default sawfish. Now I get the right click. Shame, because I like sawfish. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL AND NEWS / \
Re: zip drive problems...
On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:39:47 -0700 Joern T. Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I try do mount my zip drive mount /dev/sda4 /zip I get the message mount: /dev/sda4 is not a valid block device. What am I missing. Sometimes the partition you need to access is /dev/sda1 rather than /dev/sda4. Don't know why, but I have several zip disks, some where the uabale partition is /dev/sda1 and others where it is /dev/sda4. Maybe it has something to do with whether you formatted the zipdisks using Linux or Windows? -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: CD-RW Question...
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:12:57 -0400 Aaron Traas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question... Could someone please recommend a reliable IDE/ATAPI CD-RW that works out-of-the-box with Debian? Like, something I could just plug in and start burning. Also, I'd like one that isn't too picky about different brands of media. The Ricoh in my Win98 box isn't that reliable, and doesn't like Memorex and other common brands of CD-R blanks. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. I had a Philips CDRW800 and found that it would only burn a CD one time in around 8. Most annoying. I kept getting error messages to do with power calibration. I sold this drive and decided to go with a genuine SCSI CDRW - a suitable SCSI card costs very little, I have the Iwill SIDE-2930C which is fully supported by Linux. I bought a Yamaha 2100S, a 16x10x40 SCSI drive. I know you asked about IDE drives, but SCSI is certainly worth thinking about - you will find it altogether more reliable. I have a scanner and the CDRW plugged into my SCSI card. Initially, I found that I could only burn one CD, then all I got with subsequent burns was a loud, continuous static-like noise, unless I rebooted. I discovered that the drive didn't like cdrecord under Linux, but preferred cdrdao. Using cdrdao I now have a 100% reliable CDRW which writes to absolutely *anything*! I have tried the cheapest CDR disks I could find and still get good results. I use Gtoaster as the GUI front-end to cdrdao and grip as a ripper to ensure that when I record an audio CD I get a perfect copy. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: USB and Printer problems
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 20:01:39 +0100 Roland Hinkley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have been away from Linux and Debian for a while. I am now running a 'Woody' system. I have an Epson USB printer attached which I would like to use. I have read the documents I can find on USB in general and USB printers in particular. Are you aware that Epson in Japan have written Linux drivers for many of their printers? The print quality is equal to that of the Windows drivers, and the latest version has a utility to show ink levels and to allow you to clean the cartridge nozzles, do alignment checks etc.. Wonderful! I simply installed the .rpm version of the driver - rpm -Uvh --nodeps pips-sc680_777-2.1-1.i386.rpm If I remember correctly, the rpm install runs the setup program which sorts out your /etc/printcap for you and allows you to specify the port etc.. The driver is at: http://www.epkowa.co.jp/english/linux_e/pips_e.html -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: xv alternatives
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001 20:09:52 -0400 Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like xloadimage (xview), although xv is certainly nice. I second that. I love the way xloadimage turns the cursor into a double arrow where the image is larger than the screen and lets you move the image around so you can see all parts of it more easily. Much nicer than the way imagemagick does it. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: fetchmail at boot
On Sat, 7 Jul 2001 01:59:06 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
currently I have fetchmail being run at login from ~/.bash_profile.
this is fine for myself at login, however, I would like to have
fetchmail run as a daemon at boot time so it can poll for multiple
users. Where should I have fetchmail loaded from to do this?
This is exactly what I do.
Fetchmail needs to run as root so you need a .fetchmailrc in /root like
this:
set daemon 600
poll pop.xxx.xxx
protocol pop3
username [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
password xxx
poll pop.x.x
protocol pop3
username scgf01 to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
password xxx
poll pop.xx.xx
protocol pop3
username scgf02 to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
password xxx
As you can see, I poll three mailboxes. The daemon 600 ensures that
fetchmail runs as a daemon and polls the mailboxes at intervals of 10
minutes. I have a cable connection to the internet so this works well.
All you need to do is start fetchmail during bootup:
#! /bin/sh
# /etc/init.d/fetchmail
# Hacked by Ross Boylan from the exim script which was...
#
# Written by Miquel van Smoorenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED].
# Modified for Debian GNU/Linux by Ian Murdock [EMAIL PROTECTED].
# Modified for exim by Tim Cutts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# To start fetchmail as a system service, copy this file to
# /etc/init.d/fetchmail and run update-rc.d fetchmail
# defaults. A fetchmailrc file containg hosts and
# passwords for all local users should be placed in /root
# and should contain a line of the form set daemon nnn.
#
# To remove the service, delete /etc/init.d/fetchmail and run
# update-rc.d fetchmail remove.
set -e
DAEMON=/usr/bin/fetchmail
ARGS=--fetchmailrc /root/.fetchmailrc
DEBUGLOG=/var/log/fetchmail.log
NAME=fetchmail
echo `whoami` `date` $DEBUGLOG
# This was not my only test of uid. I created a shell script and
# ran it from start-stop-deamon. The script printed whoami as root.
test -x $DAEMON || exit 0
case $1 in
start)
echo -n Starting fetchmail:
start-stop-daemon --start -v --exec $DAEMON -- $ARGS $DEBUGLOG
# Note the use of -- before args to the program
echo Done.
;;
stop)
echo -n Stopping fetchmail:
start-stop-daemon --stop --oknodo --exec $DAEMON
echo Done.
;;
restart|reload|force-reload)
echo Restarting fetchmail:
start-stop-daemon --stop --oknodo --exec $DAEMON
start-stop-daemon --start -v --exec $DAEMON -- $ARGS $DEBUGLOG
echo Done.
;;
*)
echo Usage: /etc/init.d/$NAME {start|stop|restart}
exit 1
;;
esac
exit 0
I also have a .forward file in my home directory which sorts mail for
other users:
# Exim filter == do not edit or remove this line!
if error_message then finish endif
logfile $home/eximfilter.log
if $h_To: contains [EMAIL PROTECTED]
then deliver scott
elif $h_To: contains sah1
then deliver scott
endif
'scott; is obviously a user on my system. Not sure why I have this file in
*my* home directory, but it works so I just leave it there. I assume it
works because in my .fetchmailrc I am telling fetchmail to send all mail
initially to me as gsmh, therefore mail becomes my property before exim
takes over to filter it.
All credit to those who originally supplied me with this info.
Hope this helps.
--
Phillip Deackes
Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: gnome/KDE
On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 01:16:40 -0400 Margarete Hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are the advantages/disadvantages of gnome and KDE? Basically, which one should I install? Depends. We all have our favourite window manager (although KDE and Gnome are more than window managers, they are more 'window environments'). Personally, I don't like KDE very much - the 'KDE' angle is very prominent and when using it, 'KDE' is in your face all the time - KDE this, KDE that , Kwhatever and so on. Running non-KDE apps in the KDE environment almost makes you feel you are doing something wrong! I also don't like the look that qt (the library on which KDE is based) gives to windows. Gnome seems to me to be less pervasive - OK, there are plenty of Gnome apps around but they look good - less plastic and more functional, more like other non-gnome apps. A Gnome environment looks good with Gnome and non-Gnome apps. Gnome is based on GTK libraries and there are plenty of other GTK Linux apps around which have nothing to do with Gnome. Both are attempts to give Linux that conformity of look feel that Windows has. Both are fairly easily configurable as regards the look. Obviously, these are personal observations and you will almost certainly get the complete opposite opinion from someone else. The answer really is to try both and see which you prefer. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: Moving to reiserfs with kernel 2.4.3
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:14:39 +0200 Alex Suzuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will use Partition Magic for this. It never failed me, and it is very easy to use. You can just pop in the 2 floppys and you have a fully-featured UI to shrink, move, convert, delete, create partitions. Don't forget that Partition Magic will not be able to resize a Reiser partition, AFAIK. Does anyone know how Reiser partitions can be resized? I know there is something built into the filesystem but I've never worked out how to use this feature. Does re-partitioning the drive not affect lilo? Will it still be able to find the kernel ie. boot? Easiest thing to do, just to make sure, is get a copy of loadlin. Copy your reiser-enabled kernel onto a DOS-bootable floppy, along with loadlin and a simple on-line autoexec.bat file like this: loadlin vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro This floppy is then so easily alterable to boot any partition. Much easier than a lilo floppy. Once you have set up your new filesystem, you might like to look at Grub - a replacement for lilo. What I love about Grub is that you can go into a Grub command line at the point where you boot your computer, so you can easily change the boot paramters, the kernel you wish to boot and so on. There is an excellent IBM Grub tutorial available from: http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/ Go down the page to find a section called 'On-line Tutorials'. I must add that I didn't do the floppy disk part of the tutorial, I just played with the hard drive parameters - secure in the knowledge that I had the bootable floppy mentioned above. I did in fact make a mistake - for some reason, Grub didn't like being pointed to a symlink of the kernel /vmlinuz, but wanted to be pointed to /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.5. No idea why, but it was easy to make the change at boot up so no harm was done anyway. Grub works well with Reiserfs and doesn't need an ext2 boot partition (at least it doesn't on my system). -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Anyone using Blackmail (anti-spam utility!!)?
I installed Blackmail on my Progeny Debian box and at the moment I have it set for passive mode so it warns me if a message would have been blocked. I use it with fetchmail/exim. It is working well, but it has a problem with mailing lists, including this one. The problem is that Blackmail will consider an email as spam if the To: header is not the email address of the recipient. With all my mailing lists my address is not in the To: header. The FAQ mentions using the 'backdoor' - I am not sure how to do this. Any ideas? Thanks. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: Free mail a/c that allows download of mail
On Sun, 27 May 2001 23:47:22 +1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any free mail accounts (like hotmail etc.) that allow you to download your mail so that you can read it with mutt say? Instead of having to view it through the web browser when connected to the internet. I want something that you can use fetchmail or something similar to download the mail with. Is there any that allow this? Yes. I use GMX which offers a POP3 mailbox and SMTP send facility as well as web-based email. I use fetchmail to get my mail directly from GMX. GMX is a German company based in Munich. The service is free. have a look at www.gmx.co.uk. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: Long pause on bootup with 2.4.4 and 2.4.5 kernels
On Sat, 26 May 2001 22:07:20 +0100 Phillip Deackes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while ago I compiled the 2.4.4 kernel but went back to 2.4.3 when I found I was getting a long pause during boot-up,just after this: 'Configuring network interfaces: eth0: Setting 100mbs full-duplex based on auto negotiated partner ability 41e1'. Today I compiled 2.4.5 and get the same thing. I am answering my own post because I have found the cause of the problem (and a workaround) which might well help others. Apparently there is a bug with the newer kernel drivers for my network card - based on the Realtek 8139 chipset (uses the kernel driver 8139too). I replaced the driver with the version which came with kernel version 2.4.3 and now it works as it should. I note that a number of people have raised bug reports etc. about this issue. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: Getting the content of an RPM package
On Sun, 27 May 2001 20:30:45 +0200 Viktor Rosenfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, is ist possible to access the content of an RPM package, without actually installing it? Probably the easiest way is to open it with either MC (Midnight Commander) or GMC (Gnome Midnight Commander). You get to see the contents of the rpm as if it were a normal file. Works with Debian pacakges too. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: Printer Question
On Fri, 25 May 2001 21:51:09 -0700 Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Trying to get my printer working but having some problems with it. I used to have an HP Laserjet 6L which I had working on an earlier Debian Potato installation. Now I have a new installation and a new printer. My printer is an Epson Stylus Color 880. Still running Potato. Anyway, I have lprng, gs-aladdin, and magicfilter installed as I did on my previous installation. The device that the printer is showing up as has seemed to have moved on me. It's now on /dev/lp0 (was lp1). After configuring my printcap with magicfilgerconfig, I get this when I print a file: Did you know that Epson have written a Linux driver for this printer? It is available from: http://www.epkowa.co.jp/english/linux_e/pips_e.html The quality is superb and the resultant print quality is easily equal to that of the Windows driver. The driver is based on ghostscript so fits in with lprng or lpr or whatever and just needs a line in /etc/printcap. I just installed the rpm version onto my Debian box. Caused no problems at all. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: Printer Question
On Sat, 26 May 2001 08:59:23 -0700 Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed the rpm version onto my Debian box. Caused no problems at all. You did that with alien? I take it there are no deb packages then, right? No deb packages. I just installed the rpm with rpm -Uvh xx.rpm. I seem to remember I couldn't get it to work with alien. Direct installs with rpm are not a problem when the package is fairly trivial. If you look inside the pacakge using Midnight Commander, or GMC if you use Gnome, you can soon see if installing the package is going to cause any problems. Often you need --nodeps as a parameter to rpm because you will not have any rpm dependencies installed on your system, of course. Do you actually need to use lprng? I know when I tried it I couldn't get printing working reliably. I decided to stick with plain old lpr in the end. Here is my /etc/printcap file: laser|lp|Printer1 auto:\ :lp=/dev/lp0:\ :if=/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/laser:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/laser/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/laser/acct:\ :mx#0:\ :sh: colour|pips|epson|lp1:\ :lp=/dev/usblp0:\ :sh:\ :if=/usr/local/EPKowa/sc680_777/filter-sc680_777:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/sc680_777:\ :mx#0:\ :lf=/var/log/lpd/sc680_777: Note I connect my Stylus 680 via USB; The first entry is for my laser printer which I connect to the parallel port. A nice arrangement because I can easily print to either printer without using a switch or installing another parallel port. The other day I printed a photo onto Epson glossy paper and the result was absolutely superb. Never have I seen such good quality from a colour printer on any platform! The Epson driver comes with a GUI utility which allows you to choose the print quality, paper type etc.. The other think to check, of course, is permissions on your spool directory - you must be able to write to it as a regular user. Also you may need to add yourself to the lpr group. Good luck on getting it all working. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Long pause on bootup with 2.4.4 and 2.4.5 kernels
A while ago I compiled the 2.4.4 kernel but went back to 2.4.3 when I found I was getting a long pause during boot-up,just after this: 'Configuring network interfaces: eth0: Setting 100mbs full-duplex based on auto negotiated partner ability 41e1'. Today I compiled 2.4.5 and get the same thing. The following message after the pause is about a ping - don't get this with earlier kernels. Maybe this is the problem. Once booted, my cable modem works fine. I am running pmfirewall - I wonder if I need to change any settings to allow for this new ping? BTW, I have ensured I compiled in ipchains compatibility for 2.4.x kernels. Does anyone have any ideas? Cheers. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: moving partitions to another hard drive
On Tue, 22 May 2001 23:04:49 -0500 ktb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put both drives in and create your partitions on hdb with fdisk or cfdisk. Create your file systems with mkfs.ext2 -c and mkswap -c Mount /dev/hdb1 and copy / on hda over with cp -ax Swap the drives and replace. See the howto at - http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/index.html The Hard-Disk-Upgrade is indeed a very useful document. I would add something to what Renai has written - remember that when you come to reboot your system with the new drive there will be nothing in the master boot record so you will need a floppy boot disk. I have a dos-formatted bootable floppy containing loadlin and an autoexec.bat which reads: loadlin vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro I like loadlin for bootable floppies because it is so easy to simply change the /dev/hda2 bit to point to any partition. If you don't have DOS on your machine you can even boot with another DOS floppy (like disk one of a DOS install set), run Edit and change the partition reference. There is no messing with LILO. All you need to do is create a bootable DOS floppy, copy loadlin and your current kernel onto it and create autoexec.bat as above. That's it. Once you have managed to boot your new Linux partition you can, of course, re-run LILO and you are back in business. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Unidentified subject!
I have a PC running Progeny Debian Linux, and another machine running Windows. The Debian box connects to the Internet using a Surfboard 4100 cable modem. I want to connect my Windows machine to the same cable modem. I already have a hub so ideally I would like the cable modem and the two computers plugged into the hub. I don't want two network cards in my Linux box - I am not over bothered about security and am perfectly appy to rely on my firewall. I have already connected the Linux machine and cable modem to the hub and, of course, it works fine. What do I need to do to add the second, Windows machine? I can find documentation detailing how I might configure a RedHat box, but the files I would need to change do not match up with files on my Debian system. Can anyone help me here? Many thanks indeed. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: /etc/conf.modules is more recent ? !!
On Fri, 18 May 2001 18:49:48 -0500 Balbir Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am using kernel 2.2.19 and with debian 2.2r2 and keep getting the following message at boot up : Note: /etc/modules.conf is more recent than /lib/modules/2.2.19/modules.dep I read the earlier post in this mailing list saying it was a bug in 2.2.17 . So I upgraded to 2.2.19 and it still happens. Could you please advice ? OK. This is my understanding of the situation. The file /etc/modules.conf is generated (in part?) from the contents of the /etc/modutils/ directory. Any personal module additions should be put into /etc/modutils/aliases NOT /etc/modules.conf. The file /etc/modules.conf is then correctly generated when you (or the system) runs 'update-modules'. If you add things directly to /etc/modules.conf you may get the error message you are seeing. This has happened to me before. Maybe this is not what is causing your problem - if not, try compiling and installing a new kernel and things should sync OK. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: a printer for Linux
On Mon, 14 May 2001 15:43:08 + hzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the Debian community sorely needs a hand from a guru, in order to make HP printer work on Debian, without resorting to CUPS or any other older solution. Epson, Japan, have written a driver for many of their printers which gives a print quality equal to that of the Windows driver. On my 680 the print quality of photos is absolutely superb. All the driver needs, once installed, is a line in /etc/printcap - it slots neatly into a Linux system. The url is: http://www.epkowa.co.jp/english/linux_e/linux.html -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: Added Gnome 1.4 starts as root but not as user!
Yes - I had this too. The problem lies somewhere in the config files for Sawfish or Gnome in your home directory. Try renaming the sawfish folder, then logging on again. If this doesn't work, do the same with the .gnome folder - though you will, of course, have to go back to a default gnome desktop and lose all your customisations. I can't remember which worked for me, but is was definitely one of the config files. -- -- Phillip Deackes Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
Re: speedup nvidia?
On Fri, 4 May 2001 13:23:54 -0700 Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running 2.2.17, agpart wasn't introduced until 2.2.18, IIRC. Not a direct reply, but thought I'd chip in this thread. I tried enabling the NVIDIA and the kernel agp support (separately, of course) - in both cases support was loaded up OK, but I found I was getting a few crashes where my screen just froze and I couldn't enable another console to kill off an errant process. In my experience, these sorts of freezes are often graphics-card/driver related, so I tried disabling agp support. So far I haven't had a crash yet. I am using a VIA KT133 chipset and Athlon 800 CPU. I run on a 2.4.3 kernel with XFS support. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: reiserfs installation
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 00:07:44 -0700 Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: The extremely consistent response I've had from experienced linux users, including kernel hackers (Rusty Russell, while in Canberra recently), is you're a brave man, which is tempered when I say 2.2. Keep your backups current. I too thought the 2.4.x issue was overstated, as I had been running with reiser for a few weeks with no problems. Then one day my computer froze - I rebooted, thinking how wonderful Reiserfs was that I was back up in seconds. Then I opened Opera, and found I had no bookmarks. Looking in the bookmark file I found fragments of all sorts of files - some email, news, binary data etc.. Goodness knows what other files had been damaged. Needless to say, I was somewhat chastened and immediately set about reinstating ext2 on all my Linux partitions! -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
I dumped reiserfs - what about ext3 on Debian?
I have been running my system very well using Reiserfs on all partitions, including root. However, yesterday my computer suffered a crash and on rebooting I found that the Opera bookmarks file contained all sorts of fragments of other files. I don't know if anything else was damaged, but I was using Opera when the crash occurred. Fortunately I have recently backed up /home so was able to make good the damage. Thanks. Having heard of file corruption and Reiserfs with 2.4.x kernels, I decided to revert to ext2. Fortunately I had enough space on my drives to copy everything to a spare partition, reformat and reinstate. I did like Resierfs while I was using it, the journal idea is very nice. I wouldn't mind giving ext3 a go, but it would appear that there is no kernel patch for the 2.4.x kernels. Is this so? Has anyone actually used ext3 with Debian? -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: Printer reccommendation
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 21:44:01 +0200 John Plate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I know this is way off topic, but can anyone reccomend a budget printer with good linux (and debianised) support? I can recommend Lexmark Optra E310. It has Postscript, it is fast and reliable. It just works very well. I recommend the Epson 680. Epson have written a Linux driver for it which fits into the current lpr/lprng/ghostscript system and gives the same quality of print output as the Windows driver. The Epson package also includes a GUI utility to change paper type and print quality. From the web page: It brings out the maximum performance of the printer hardware such as 1440*720dpi and six color ink by using the same image processing module as the driver for Win/Mac and the microweave technology. It offers the same print mode provided for the Win/Mac driver. The print mode setting is supported. We provide the open source as much as possible. The driver is obtainable from: http://www.epkowa.co.jp/english/linux_e/pips_e.html -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: Printer recommendations - Epson have wriiten Linux driver!
On Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:44:35 -0500 D-Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 05:43:29PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: I haven't seen what it lists, but the HP DeskJet 6xx my roommate bought worked. You just *have* to get an Epson 680 or higher. Epson Japan has produced a Linux driver for it that gives the same print quality as you get from the Windows drivers. It is fabulous!! Never before have I seen such good quality from a colour printer on Linux! There is a gui tool for setting paper print quality etc. too. The driver works through your normal /etc/printcap so just slots in nicely. The web page for the driver is at: http://www.epkowa.co.jp/english/pro_e/pips_e.html There is a readme accessible from the download page which explains how to set it all up. I downloaded the .rpm and installed that stright onto my debian box - for some reason, alien wouldn't convert it, but if you do 'rpm -i --nodeps whatever.rpm' it will install cleanly. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: anyone have a epson stylus photo 870 working?
On Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:32:24 -0900 Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:38:38AM -0600, Dave Sherohman wrote: if it isn't going to work right in color there is no sense keeping this printer. its cheaper to get a used postscript laser off ebay. I bought an Epson 680 yesterday and spent much of the day trying to get good output with the gimp-print plugin. I was disappointed that the print quality wasn't as good as that from the Windows drivers. May be with lots of tweaking of settings . . Anyway, right at the end of the evening, I noticed a posting on the Linux-usb board about a driver Epson in Japan had written for the 680/777, 880 and 980 models. I downloaded the rpm and it installed cleanly onto my Debian box. The print quality is everything I wanted *and* there is a GUI tool for setting paper type, print quality etc.. Wonderful!! I have never seen such good quality colour printing from Linux before. You need to add the stanza in /etc/printcap manually, and also the spool file, but it is all explained in the release notes. Took all of 5 minutes to get working. Not sure if it will apply to your model, but worth a try. The url is: http://www.epkowa.co.jp/english/pro_e/pips_e.html Fingers crossed. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: new hard drive
On Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:58:54 -0800 (PST) Ian Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did the same using the Hard Disk Upgrade Mini How-To at [1]. Since the method described there uses cp it's no problem to increase the partition sizes. You can also use tar of the form tar -cf- -C source_directory . | tar -xf- -C destination_directory . which should give much better performance than cp if the source and destination directories are on different drives. I have done this a few times - and have on one occasion made a hash of it. The most recent time I used Partition Magic - it can copy a partition from one drive to another. It was the easiest hard drivr upgrade ever. I didn't even need to run lilo since I set up the new drive as hda and the old drive as hdb. I got Partition Magic to copy the partition from hdb to hda and rebooted. Everything worked fine. I then used PM again to resize the partition to take advantage of the larger hard drive capacity of the new drive. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
How do I resize my reiser partition?
I am experimenting with resierfs and have successfully created a resier partition onto which I copies my Debian root filesystem. Everything works really well, except that now I want to delete my old ext2 partition and extend the new reiser partition to use up the freespace. I have spent ages trying to find out exactly what to do. I understand I can grow the reiser partition by adding a mount command to my /etc/fstab. The problem I have is what to put as the 'blocks' entry. Currently I have: hda2Primary Win95 FAT32 6325.25 hda4BootPrimary Linux 3569.78 hda5Logical Linux ext2 10594.17 I want to remove /dev/hda5 and grow /dev/hda4 (reiserfs) to fill the space. df gives me: /dev/hda4 3485968 2311752 1174216 67% / /dev/hda5 10187124 2466712 7410040 25% /mnt Can anyone help? Hold my hand a little?! Many thanks. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: How do I resize my reiser partition?
On Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:54:47 +0100 studenten wg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: im using reiserfs with lvm ( logical volume manager ) in that combination it's quite easy resizing your partition take a look at http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-0102/msg01262.html Many thanks for your reply, Peter. I had a look at the web page you gave me and was tempted, but decided in the end it was, perhaps, a little over the top for what I needed *at the moment*. What I have done is basically copied my root filesystem to another drive, repartioned the full 14 GB of space as reiserfs and copied the linux filesystem back again. It appears to have worked flawlessly. I have done the same with my data partition so am now running completely on reiserfs. Thanks again. Take care. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: Making a Backup to a CD-RW
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:38:07 -0600 (CST) Richard Cobbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're interested in doing backups to CD-R(W), I'd recommend cddump. There's not a dpkg, but it's easy enough to install. See http://users.gtn.net/fraserm/cddump.html. Thanks, Richard. I downloaded cddump and it works well. However, I can't seem to get it to backup multiple directories. How would I, say, get it backup /home and /etc? I tried 'cddump 0 /etc /home' and it ignored /home. There is nothing in the man page to suggest how it can be done. Any ideas? -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: A debian-based distro for the New
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:39:46 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I downloaded Libranet 1.2.2 ISO from a ftp site from Linux.org (got a T1 at work). I tried to install it and you know what, it's got a debian installer (with Libranet thrown in here and there) for Potato. I completely screwed up my system trying ( installing over RH6.2 don't ask me why, MY other system is SLINK), so I can't tell the friends to try it. Yeah, the old 1.2.2 iso is available for download, but they are not letting their new version out at all. Libranet is up to 1.8 or something like that. They told me that it would not be a good idea to install the 1.2.2 iso and upgrade using apt-get. I wonder why! -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Re: A debian-based distro for the New
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:44:45 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got a few friends who are interested in (trying)linux. For TRYING purposes I want them to use a debian based Linux. I love using debian 2.2 and I am pretty new my-self(1.5 year). I think it might be a little to overwelming for them. I beleive there are three to chose from Corel, Storm and Libranet. I have tried the first two but Libranet I have not tried yet. Anyone tried Libranet? Are there any reasons not to use the others? I wouldn't want the users to try Linux and despise it. I am not happy about Libranet at all. There appears to be no upgrade path at all using apt-get, there is nothing worthy of mention on the Libranet ftp site. The only way to upgrade a Libranet distribution is to add Debian sources to sources.list - the Libranet-specific apps do not seem to be available at all. If this is so it would seem pointless to bother with Libranet unless you are happy purchasing further CDs in the future to keep the Libranet apps current. This goes completely against the Debian philosophy of easy upgardability over the 'net using apt. Libranet also does not allow downloading of its distribution - to use it you have to buy a CD. Even Corel provides a freely-downloadable iso image. I emailed Libranet about these points and they stated that they merely create a Debian build at a particular moment in time. They feel that using Debian sources is entirely reasonable. I feel this compares very badly with the sterling efforts Stormix Technologies put into their distribution. Libranet seems to be doing very little indeed in comparison. I would be interested to know what they are giving back to the Debian community. No, the rising star in the Debian fold, apart from Debian itself, of course, appears to be Progeny Debian. Beta 3 is available for free download and is actually very usable indeed - maybe even for the new user. The install is certainly very straightforward. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
Now Stormix is no more . . .
With the recently reported demise of Stormix Technologies, creators of the *excellent* Storm Linux, is anyone at Debian looking to taking over any of the apps they developed? I am thinking particularly of the superb installation routine; SAS, the GUI administration modules and Storm Package Manager, the front-end to apt. Storm Package Manager is available in Debian Unstable (+ Testing?) already. Has anyone here tried Libranet? from what I have read it is a very nice distribution, also based on Debian, but I am not keen on the fact there is no downloadable version and there appears to be no Libranet site usable with apt-get - it certatainly looks like there is no apt-get upgrade path apart from using Debian sources. If this is the case there doesn't seem to be much point buying Libranet instead of Debian. -- Phillip Deackes Using Debian Linux
DHCP and DNS address with cable modem service . .
I have a cable modem and use the NTL service in the UK. Recently, NTL changed the DNS servers for cable modem users, but I had manually set up /etc/resolv.conf to contain the original addresses. NTL maintain that using a DHCP client should ensure that the ISP can change DNS addresses and the customer's machine is updated automatically. Does this work with Linux? If so, how do I set it up? Complaints by users of non-Windows machines resulted in the following comment from another user who complained about not being told of the change: Should we reconfigure to point to this new DNS? No you should configure it using DHCP...that's what it's for (and it is stated as part of the requirements for a machine that can use the service :o) ) What better way is there of telling everyone than that? Many thanks for your comments. BTW I use dhcp-client version 2.0pl4-2 on an Unstable box. -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux 2000
Re: CUPS - How do I set gamma correction globally?
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 05:19:11 -0500, serge delorme said: man lpoptions. Merci bien, Serge!! -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux 2000
Re: problem compiling kernels
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 21:57:52 -0500, Jonathan D. Proulx said:
Package fails to spend adequate time reading documentation :)
I'm sure there's bugs since it's software, but that's not the problem
I'm having just to lazy to RTFM, as I have another way to do what I
need.
I have just picked up on this thread, so excuse me if I am not answering your
question!
The Debian way of compiling the kernel is *so* easy. What I do is this:
Unpack the kernel source into /usr/src
Change the name of the dir (if necessary) to something like 'kernel-2.4.0' then
symlink it to /usr/src/linux ('ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.4.0 /usr/src/linux'
Cd into /usr/src/linux and do the usual 'make xconfig' as root.
Save the configuration.
Enter 'make-kpkg kernel_image -revision=custom.1.0'
When this has finished you will have a Debian package of your kernel in
/usr/src.
Simply install the package 'dpkg -i
kernel-image-2.4.1-pre8_custom.1.0_i386.deb'
You may need to rename /lib/modules/whatever - but kernel-package will halt and
prompt you to do this if necessary. It will even set up lilo and offer to make
you a boot disk.
It is very handy to have a .deb of the kernel you have rolled - makes it so
easy to have different versions available, and to roll back if you need to.
--
Phillip Deackes
Using Storm Linux 2000
CUPS - How do I set gamma correction globally?
I have just installed CUPS and it works very well on my laser printer (Brother HL-1050, using HP laserjet driver). I would like to add gamma correction though. On the command line, I do 'lpr -o gamma=2000 filename' and the result is much more to my liking. How can I get this to work globally without having to print from the command line each time? I had a look in the various CUPS config files and I can't see where it could be added. TIA. -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux 2000
Re: Aaaarrrgggghhh!!!!
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:35:13 -0700 Monte Milanuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Discussing OSS and Debian I'd be interested in knowing _how_ you got it to work on a Debian box? Did you recompile your kernel? According to the OSS docs, - Debian Linux (most versions) The kernel image shipped with many Debian releases differs from the standard kernels. For this reason OSS will need the sndshield module to be rebuilt in your system. Unfortunately this may fail because the directory structure of Debian differes from all other Linux distributions. It goes on to refer to how to deal with this under 'Solving sndshield version incompatibilities', but never really addresses the Debian situation. I hadn't read that at all!!! I have always recompiled the Linux kernel, though. It is the first thing I do when I install a Linux system. I kind of like the idea that the kernel I use is actually built on *my* system and has only what I need compiled in. I tend to compile in much of what I need rather than using modules - that way everything works first time! Having said that, I did nothing special for OSS, apart from removing the sound config from the kernel after I had installed it - I did nothing before. It installed perfectly. I did need to add 'soundon' manually to /etc/rc.boot - this consists of a simple command: #!/bin/sh /usr/local/bin/soundon OSS starts eavery time I boot and has been completely hassle free ever since. -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux 2000
Re: Aaaarrrgggghhh!!!!
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:38:49 +0100 Peter Hugosson-Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Monte Milanuk wrote: If you still have them, why don't you try to see if those OSS/commercial drivers work together with Debian? I for one would be _very_ interested to know if that works - it would probably be cheaper to buy commercial drivers for the card I have than to buy a new card (what do they charge BTW?). I bought a motherboard with the KT133 chipset and AC97 on-board sound. Since I only had an old SoundBlaster ISA card, and I needed to use the one ISA slot on the new board for a SCSI scanner card, I decided to give the AC97 chip a chance. Basically I read what I could on the 'net, and found I was spending so much time looking for the right way to do it, that I decided to go ahead and buy the commercial OSS drivers. I must say, the process was so easy - filled in the info on the web site, received the license file within a couple of minutes and had the whole thing installed inside of 5 minutes. The sound quality is better than my old SounBlaster 16 card too. Excellent! They charge for the basic OSS utility then you pay extra for the module for your particular sound card/chipset. The cost was 15 USD for each, 30 USD total. AS you say, probably cheaper than buying a new card. I recently upgraded to the 2.4 kernel, and was able to download the 2.4-compatible driver from their website at no charge. You can try an unlicensed version of the software which is time limited - a good way to see if it works for you. The OSS web site is http://www.opensound.com/ -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux 2000
Re: OT:Motherboards and Processors
On Sat, 13 Jan 2001 12:44:06 -0800 tjm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Computer show today and looking for any recommendations for stable motherboard and processor combinations in the 700-800Mhz range, 133 Mhz bus and it doesn't matter whether it's AMD or Intel for the chip. Hi, Tony. The AMD Duron 800MHz processor is particularly good value at the moment and is well supported by Linux. It outperforms the nearest Celeron by a wide margin. I have a Soltek SL-75KV2 motherboard which uses the VIA Apollo chipset (KT-133). It is an ATA 100 board and the 2.2.18 kernel, patched with the ide-patch, supported ATA 66 easily. I currently use the new 2.4 kernel which only configures the hard drive at ATA 33 - but as soon as an ide patch is available for 2.4 I fully expect to see ATA 66 again. Some KT-133 boards use the Promise IDE controller and I have read of difficulties installing Linux on these unless UDMA is turned off, or a non-ATA 66 ribbon cable used temporarily. I have built a few machines using the above components and where ther has been a stability problem one one machine it was completely down to the power supply - AMD processors are very particular about the PSU - and as soon as this was replaced the machine was completely stable. The symptoms were spontaneous rebooting, freezing, and occasional refusal to boot at all. AMD have a list of approved PSU/Cases on their web site, but as long as the spec says Athlon or AMD approved all should be well. It is not necessarily down to the output of the PSU either - a 300 watt unit is not OK just because it is 300 watts. Hope this helps a little. -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux 2000
Re: Running fetchmail as daemon - mail goes to postmaster
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:43:19 -0600 Keith G. Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I couldn't get that to work when I used 'on this system', nor can I see those as allowed 'noise' words in the documentation. What works for me is just plain old: username user-a to user-b Where did you get the 'on this system' syntax from? I don't actually know - I have been using it for absolutely ages; I think I got it from a newsgroup message. I suppose it worked OK when I ran fetchmail as 'gsmh' because it didn't understand the noise words and used 'gsmh' because that was the user running it. Now I have used your syntax, I get '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' instead of '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' so the problem is solved! Thank you very much indeed! -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux 2000
Running fetchmail as daemon - mail goes to postmaster
I set up fetchmail to start as a daemon on boot, using a script Ross Boylan sent to the list recently - it specifies /root/.fetchmailrc I have put the correct .fetchmailrc into /root, but when I now look at /var/log/exim/mainlog I see this: 2001-01-11 00:16:54 14GVQE-7w-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=scgf (localhost) [127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=4036 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2001-01-11 00:16:54 14GVQE-7w-00 = gsmh [EMAIL PROTECTED] D=localuser T=local_delivery Although I do get the mail (because I have set postmaster to point to myself as a user (gsmh) rather than root in /etc/aliases?) I don't think it is right to send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I ran fetchmail myself and used a .fetchmailrc in my home directory I saw this: 2001-01-10 07:39:41 14GFrB-yX-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=scgf (localhost) [127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=3106 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2001-01-10 07:39:41 14GFrB-yX-00 = gsmh [EMAIL PROTECTED] D=localuser T=local_delivery That looks much better. I am using exim to distribute mail recieved by fetchmail. Should I move .forward from /home/gsmh to /root as well? Can anyone comment on these two log entries? Many thanks. -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux 2000
Re: kernel 2.4 - modutils
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:07:28 -0500 Noah L. Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 03:54:00PM -0600, Rob VanFleet wrote: Yes, apt-get source -b modutils will do it (assuming unstable has an deb-src line in /etc/apt/sources.list). I just changed my /etc/apt/sources.list to point to unstable (as opposed to Woody which I normally use) and did apt-get install modutils. I got the new version and no other packages. Modules from 2.4.0 now install correctly. -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux 2000
Re: DHCP Client
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 18:50:16 -0500 Ed Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have a Debian 2.2 or later system, try editing /etc/network/interfaces Cheers, Ed. That is indeed the correct file to edit. My fault for not specifying that I was using Woody - I didn't realise there was a difference regarding networking configuration. Take care. -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux 2000
Re: DHCP Client
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 08:32:55 -0800 (PST) Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: edit /etc/init.d/client script. Each one has an argument for which eth to listen on. For pump it is -i eth0. What is client? I have no /etc/init.d/eth0 or /etc/init.d/dhcp or anything like that - all I have which might be relevant is /etc/init.d/networking. Cheers. -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux 2000
Re: Linux does not run on my new motherboard :(
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000 19:09:10 -0800 Rob Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was planning on buying this board soon, so I'm interested in the possibly solutions. Let me see if I got this right... (1) Use the UDMA-66 controller. (2) Compile a kernel with the UDMA-100 support in it (either on another machine, or when using the UDMA-66), and boot from that. But if you have an empty system, how do you install debian? Are there docs on how to make an installation boot disk with certain modules compiled into the kernel? I recently rebuilt my machine using a Soltek SL-75KV2 motherboard, also UDMA 100 compatible. What I did was build a kernel to support the new board *before* I installed it, on the old machine and used the same hard drive in the new machine. I then used Partition Magic to copy over the partition to the new drive and everything worked perfectly. What I used was the 2.2.18 kernel source which I patched with the ide.2.2.18.12.09 kernel patch which I found at: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/hedrick/ide-2.2.18/ I made sure I compiled in support for what was going to be my new system (as well as the old, for now.) When I built the new machine it supported my new drive at the correct ATA 66 mode, and the old drive at ATA 33. All the features on the motherboard were correctly identifies, as was the new AMD Duron 800 CPU. Another suggestion is to temporarily use a bog-standard IDE cable to the new drive - one which isn't ATA 66 compatible. This will force the machine to see the drive as, at most, ATA 33 and should work OK. Once the new kenel is patched and build you should be able to switch cables again. -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux 2000
Re: cdr recomendations
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000 17:21:21 +1030 (CST) David Purton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of buying a cd writer. The howto suggests that most ide drives should work fine with Linux. But I was just wondering what modals people have had good results with and more importantly if there are any to avoid. I have recently installed a CDRW drive on my machine. I chose a Philips CDRW800, a 4x 8x 32x drive. It is IDE and Linux needs to see CDR drives as SCSI - so a little configuring of the kernel and a couple of lines in /etc/lilo.conf was all it took. I now have both my CD-ROM and CDRW drives recognised as SCSI and the Linux software (especially XCDRoast) works very well indeed. As long as you are OK compiling a kernel you should have no problem at all with an IDE drive. Does anyone know of any software for Linux like Adaptec's which allows you to to use a CDRW disk as if it were a hard drive? ie. being able to add and remove data at will? -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux 2000
Starup script - how can I make it start later? (Firestarter)
I need to start a script containing ipchains settings derived freom Firestarter. The docs suggest I start the script in /etc/rc.x. If I do this, on boot up I get error messages which do not occur if I run the script after the system has rebooted. This leads me to summise that the script is starting too early. How can I make sure it is the last thing to run on boot up? Anyone else using Firstarter? The script is firewall.sh and contains ipchains references. I can try it again and copy over the error messages I receive on boot, but I don't know how to get these messages again to copy - they appear during boot up but they are not in /var/log/messages or /var/log/system. -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux 2000
