Re: partition reporting full, but not
On 21/2/24 10:47, Felix Miata wrote: I didn't think so, which begs the question why OP Keith is using it. :p -- I read somewhere about 2 years ago, that it automagically de-duped data when it detected I was copying the same file to different directories. It's not deliberate, but I have often found copies of my files amongst files I have backed up for my wife (where I have put copies of my important stuff occasionally.And more common if I rsync a usb to a new destination - the usb I use at a volunteer job with portable apps on a foreign PC. I found what I think was that article the other week; and it now talks about a manual process to de-dupe the data. I don't believe I could have skipped the most important paragraph in the article. I prefer rdfind -makehardlinks.Writing to btrfs feels quicker than ext4 But why use btrfs on a system partition. I like to try new stuff. Like I get a nagging thought of trying arch linux regularly. I resist mostly.. I should use sid as my daily driver, but I'm not good at asking for help; and I get the feeling that some people here would want to tell me something like 'I made my bed, lay in it.' So I make do with using developer versions of firefox & thunderbird and beta libreOffice (24.02 I think) They are on a separate partition from my system. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00
Re: partition reporting full, but not
On 21/2/24 11:38, Felix Miata wrote: A current thread from elsewhere that should be helpful: <https://forums.opensuse.org/t/btrfs-disk-full-how-to-fix-it-is-that- really-the-solution/172576> btrfs filesystem usage / snapper list btrfs qgroup show / Thanks for the prompt, Felix >> sudo btrfs filesystem usage / [sudo] password for root: Overall: Device size: 70.00GiB = remember I expanded this partition yesterday Device allocated: 35.82GiB Device unallocated: 34.18GiB Device missing: 0.00B Device slack:0.00B Used: 34.30GiB Free (estimated): 34.90GiB (min: 17.81GiB) Free (statfs, df):34.90GiB Data ratio: 1.00 Metadata ratio: 2.00 Global reserve: 71.69MiB (used: 0.00B) Multiple profiles: no Data,single: Size:32.80GiB, Used:32.09GiB (97.82%) /dev/sda3 32.80GiB Metadata,DUP: Size:1.50GiB, Used:1.11GiB (73.77%) /dev/sda3 3.00GiB System,DUP: Size:8.00MiB, Used:16.00KiB (0.20%) /dev/sda3 16.00MiB Unallocated: /dev/sda3 34.18GiB keith@dell0 $ Wed 21Feb2024@11:44:26 :~ At least I can make sense from some of these output numbers >> sudo btrfs qgroup show / ERROR: can't list qgroups: quotas not enabled keith@dell0 $ Wed 21Feb2024@11:47:13 :~ installed snapper and >> sudo snapper list The config 'root' does not exist. Likely snapper is not configured. See 'man snapper' for further instructions. keith@dell0 $ More to learn about, I see -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00
Re: partition reporting full, but not
On 20/2/24 19:38, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 02:42:18AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: Keith Bainbridge composed on 2024-02-20 17:45 (UTC+1100): I just removed 3 snapshots from my daily driver with no change in used space reported by df df doesn't know how to calculate freespace on btrfs. You need to be typing btrfs filesystem df if you have not aliased df to btrfs filesystem df. Still, Keith seems to have a real shortage of file system free space, otherwise Debian upgrades wouldn't fail. I don't know much about btrfs, but what would be really helpful (if you do, and it seems so) would be for you to fill us in on how to asses the space used up by old snapshots (what seems to be the main suspect currently). Cheers Tomas, the upgrade failure was earlier than these notes. It has now worked Sorry, but I don't know how to assess the snapshot space usage. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00
Re: partition reporting full, but not
On 20/2/24 18:42, Felix Miata wrote: btrfs filesystem df OK, so please interpret: >> btrfs filesystem df -h / Data, single: total=32.80GiB, used=31.94GiB System, DUP: total=8.00MiB, used=16.00KiB Metadata, DUP: total=1.50GiB, used=1.10GiB GlobalReserve, single: total=71.69MiB, used=0.00B keith@dell0 $ Tue 20Feb2024@20:57:45 :~ >> btrfs filesystem df -h /mnt/data/ Data, single: total=530.02GiB, used=329.55GiB System, DUP: total=8.00MiB, used=112.00KiB Metadata, DUP: total=5.00GiB, used=1.10GiB GlobalReserve, single: total=512.00MiB, used=0.00B keith@dell0 $ when cfdisk reports: DeviceStartEnd Sectors Size Type >> /dev/sda1 2048 1667678207 1667676160 795.2G Linux filesystem Free space 1667678208 1785522175 117843968 56.2G /dev/sda21785522176 1786245119 722944 353M EFI System /dev/sda31786245120 1933045759 14680064070G EFI System /dev/sda41933045760 1953523711 20477952 9.8G Linux swap To clarify /dev/sda1 is /mnt/dataand I don't understand the 'EFI System' note /dev/sda3 is / Perhaps the explanation why the reports from btrfs filesystem df make no sense will come when I get into my assignment? -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00
Re: partition reporting full, but not
On 20/2/24 18:11, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 19/2/24 14:20, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 19/2/24 10:26, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 18/2/24 14:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 18/2/24 07:34, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Keith Bainbridge wrote: Yes the / partitions are btrfs So the apparently missing space is perhaps taken up by btrfs snapshots. Seems to be the prime suspect. If that's the case, btrfs is NOT hard- linking the snapshots as timeshift claims it does. The only way to check is install on ext4 and compare. I have saves enough free space to do this. My effort to date is to move my home to /mnt/data and sim-link it into / home. df is now showing 2.3GB free on /. df showed /home as 2.2GB yesterday. At least there is a little space to play with; and give me time to consider. A fresh install may be worth checking in snapshots are as big as this all makes them look. a few brief answer to other comments will follow So later yesterday afternoon I created a new snapshot with no obvious change is free space. I then update/upgrade. The initial attempt told me 63 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 337 MB of archives. After this operation, 473 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] But the 3 kernel related packages failed to install a couple of times. When I finally figured I should check space, there was none. I rolled back to prior to the upgrade, but still no free space. I said sometime in this thread that timeshift (and BiT) use hard links to create progressive copies of the system. The more I think about how hard links reportedly work, I reckon it can't be simply hard links. So I'm starting a new thread on that topic. So I'm back to see some more helpful hints. Thanks folk I am convinced that the missing space is used by btrfs snapshot process. But WHY is the used space reporting on my daily driver LESS than that on the spare machine 29G vs 35G? The original install was the same .iso Ah well I could add some of the spare space the the / partition, but how much? Play safe and use the lot, making it 60G compared to 63G on my daily driver. (And create some free space off the data partition before it's too late.) Just as well I have time on my hands Again, thanks to all for your suggestions I am sure I saw a response to comment of mine, where I was misunderstood in the numbers I quoted for used space on my daily driver - 29G; and the space used by the problem machine - 35G. There was a suggestion that I had not updated it as often as daily driver. I had kept problem box as up to date as daily until a few days ago when it refused to update due to lack of space. This is when I discovered I had a problem. It is switched off at present, pending my deciding whether to expand / partition or re-install on the free space on ext4. I will delete a few snapshots before I proceed, just to see what happens - I'll do that shortly, in fact, now I can see that it may have a bigger affect than I figured. Now a minor amendment to my last note, where deleting snapshots has haad no bearing on used space. Before I started, df reported 28G used, compared to 29G used yesterday. Remember my home is sym-linked from another partition. du is reporting /home is 3M which is the original / home/keith and re-named to keep it handy IN CASE I need it some day - like when I did some major surgery on that data partition the other week. I'm trying to say that nothing I've done overnight has changed used space. There were no packages to upgrade today. df is now reporting 27G used on / confirming btrfs seems to take time to reflect changes in snapshots. Back later. Back. On booting up problem machine I was greeted with warnings in disk space low on /. I generally don't log into desktop on this machine. Deleted 4 snapshots. df immediately reported used space 33G (down from 35G) and free space 2.9G, up from ~200M at login. I don't think I've EVER seen used space and free space equal size before. I rebooted just to see if anything changed. 10 mins later df is still reporting Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on 36G 33G 2.9G 92% / apt update/upgrade gave me 63 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 337 MB of archives. which I reckon is what I got yesterday after I moved my home to my data partition and Quoted from 19Feb at 10:26 (UTC 18Feb at 23:26): I then update/upgrade. The initial attempt told me 63 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 337 MB of archives. After this operation, 473 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] But the 3 kernel related packages failed to install a couple of times. When I finally figured I should check space, there was none. I rolled back to prior to the upgrade, but still no free space. And earlier:My
Re: partition reporting full, but not
On 19/2/24 14:20, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 19/2/24 10:26, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 18/2/24 14:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 18/2/24 07:34, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Keith Bainbridge wrote: Yes the / partitions are btrfs So the apparently missing space is perhaps taken up by btrfs snapshots. Seems to be the prime suspect. If that's the case, btrfs is NOT hard- linking the snapshots as timeshift claims it does. The only way to check is install on ext4 and compare. I have saves enough free space to do this. My effort to date is to move my home to /mnt/data and sim-link it into / home. df is now showing 2.3GB free on /. df showed /home as 2.2GB yesterday. At least there is a little space to play with; and give me time to consider. A fresh install may be worth checking in snapshots are as big as this all makes them look. a few brief answer to other comments will follow So later yesterday afternoon I created a new snapshot with no obvious change is free space. I then update/upgrade. The initial attempt told me 63 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 337 MB of archives. After this operation, 473 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] But the 3 kernel related packages failed to install a couple of times. When I finally figured I should check space, there was none. I rolled back to prior to the upgrade, but still no free space. I said sometime in this thread that timeshift (and BiT) use hard links to create progressive copies of the system. The more I think about how hard links reportedly work, I reckon it can't be simply hard links. So I'm starting a new thread on that topic. So I'm back to see some more helpful hints. Thanks folk I am convinced that the missing space is used by btrfs snapshot process. But WHY is the used space reporting on my daily driver LESS than that on the spare machine 29G vs 35G? The original install was the same .iso Ah well I could add some of the spare space the the / partition, but how much? Play safe and use the lot, making it 60G compared to 63G on my daily driver. (And create some free space off the data partition before it's too late.) Just as well I have time on my hands Again, thanks to all for your suggestions I am sure I saw a response to comment of mine, where I was misunderstood in the numbers I quoted for used space on my daily driver - 29G; and the space used by the problem machine - 35G. There was a suggestion that I had not updated it as often as daily driver.I had kept problem box as up to date as daily until a few days ago when it refused to update due to lack of space. This is when I discovered I had a problem. It is switched off at present, pending my deciding whether to expand / partition or re-install on the free space on ext4. I will delete a few snapshots before I proceed, just to see what happens - I'll do that shortly, in fact, now I can see that it may have a bigger affect than I figured. Now a minor amendment to my last note, where deleting snapshots has haad no bearing on used space. Before I started, df reported 28G used, compared to 29G used yesterday. Remember my home is sym-linked from another partition. du is reporting /home is 3M which is the original /home/keith and re-named to keep it handy IN CASE I need it some day - like when I did some major surgery on that data partition the other week. I'm trying to say that nothing I've done overnight has changed used space. There were no packages to upgrade today. df is now reporting 27G used on / confirming btrfs seems to take time to reflect changes in snapshots. Back later. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00
Re: partition reporting full, but not
On 19/2/24 13:00, Max Nikulin wrote: On 19/02/2024 06:26, Keith Bainbridge wrote: So later yesterday afternoon I created a new snapshot with no obvious change is free space. Effect of snapshots is delayed. When you remove a file that does not belong to any snapshot, some disk space is reclaimed. However to restore a file (even a removed later) from a snapshot, it must be stored anywhere. That is why snapshots consume disk space. Try to remove unnecessary snapshots. I have no idea if btrfs requires additional maintenance. I just removed 3 snapshots from my daily driver with no change in used space reported by df Mindful of the fact that somebody considers it may take time to reflect changes within the snapshots, I'll check again tomorrow morning -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00
Re: partition reporting full, but not
On 19/2/24 10:26, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 18/2/24 14:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 18/2/24 07:34, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Keith Bainbridge wrote: Yes the / partitions are btrfs So the apparently missing space is perhaps taken up by btrfs snapshots. Seems to be the prime suspect. If that's the case, btrfs is NOT hard- linking the snapshots as timeshift claims it does. The only way to check is install on ext4 and compare. I have saves enough free space to do this. My effort to date is to move my home to /mnt/data and sim-link it into / home. df is now showing 2.3GB free on /. df showed /home as 2.2GB yesterday. At least there is a little space to play with; and give me time to consider. A fresh install may be worth checking in snapshots are as big as this all makes them look. a few brief answer to other comments will follow So later yesterday afternoon I created a new snapshot with no obvious change is free space. I then update/upgrade. The initial attempt told me 63 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 337 MB of archives. After this operation, 473 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] But the 3 kernel related packages failed to install a couple of times. When I finally figured I should check space, there was none. I rolled back to prior to the upgrade, but still no free space. I said sometime in this thread that timeshift (and BiT) use hard links to create progressive copies of the system. The more I think about how hard links reportedly work, I reckon it can't be simply hard links. So I'm starting a new thread on that topic. So I'm back to see some more helpful hints. Thanks folk I am convinced that the missing space is used by btrfs snapshot process. But WHY is the used space reporting on my daily driver LESS than that on the spare machine 29G vs 35G? The original install was the same .iso Ah well I could add some of the spare space the the / partition, but how much? Play safe and use the lot, making it 60G compared to 63G on my daily driver. (And create some free space off the data partition before it's too late.) Just as well I have time on my hands Again, thanks to all for your suggestions -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00
Re: partition reporting full, but not
On 19/2/24 13:41, Felix Miata wrote: would be some places to start. Didn't you do your https://btrfs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/btrfs-filesystem.html reading yet? ?_? My eyes have glazed over too often, already. I know I have to get back, but that NEED to do it is making it harder. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00
Re: Hard links - How do they work
On 19/2/24 11:15, Kushal Kumaran wrote: Have you read their FAQ page about hard links? https://github.com/bit-team/backintime/blob/dev/FAQ.md#how-do-snapshots- with-hard-links-work Very interesting. Thank you I have totally missed the concept of copying all files as a starting point. I was dismayed to read that a file that was deleted disappears from the back up as well. UMMM I didn't know I had deleted that file. A month/year later I NEED it quickly. What to do? I went back to timeshift and looking again, this concept of copying all files seems to be used here as well. The author does say that the app uses btrfs inbuilt snapshot process when available. I have to look harder when I browse over something. Is it looking obvious that I never really learnt how to read, 70 years ago in primary school. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00
Re: partition reporting full, but not
On 18/2/24 14:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 18/2/24 07:34, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Keith Bainbridge wrote: Yes the / partitions are btrfs So the apparently missing space is perhaps taken up by btrfs snapshots. Seems to be the prime suspect. If that's the case, btrfs is NOT hard- linking the snapshots as timeshift claims it does. The only way to check is install on ext4 and compare. I have saves enough free space to do this. My effort to date is to move my home to /mnt/data and sim-link it into / home. df is now showing 2.3GB free on /. df showed /home as 2.2GB yesterday. At least there is a little space to play with; and give me time to consider. A fresh install may be worth checking in snapshots are as big as this all makes them look. a few brief answer to other comments will follow So later yesterday afternoon I created a new snapshot with no obvious change is free space. I then update/upgrade. The initial attempt told me 63 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 337 MB of archives. After this operation, 473 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] But the 3 kernel related packages failed to install a couple of times. When I finally figured I should check space, there was none. I rolled back to prior to the upgrade, but still no free space. I said sometime in this thread that timeshift (and BiT) use hard links to create progressive copies of the system. The more I think about how hard links reportedly work, I reckon it can't be simply hard links. So I'm starting a new thread on that topic. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00
Re: partition reporting full, but not
On 18/2/24 14:08, Max Nikulin wrote: On 17/02/2024 09:52, Greg Wooledge wrote: If so, you *could* have data inside the /home directory of the root file system, which is hidden by the /home file system that's mounted over it. You'd need to unmount /home to check. A less intrusive way to inspect shadowed directories is bind mounts. mkdir /tmp/root mount --bind / /tmp/root Thank you Max This has proved a real boon -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00
Re: partition reporting full, but not
On 18/2/24 09:19, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: I only know to say this because it just happened a few days ago. Rsync left some semi-permanent remnants when I was having problems with the wireless capable hard drive docking station repeatedly cutting out. I was offloading videos and images from a camera during many of those times. Thanks Cindy Interesting Though as far as I can recall the only files I have rsync'd onto / are 4or5 config files, and all in /home/keith which now on another partition. And with a gain in free space which virtually matches its reported space used, yesterday. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00
Re: partition reporting full, but not
On 18/2/24 07:34, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Keith Bainbridge wrote: Yes the / partitions are btrfs So the apparently missing space is perhaps taken up by btrfs snapshots. Seems to be the prime suspect. If that's the case, btrfs is NOT hard-linking the snapshots as timeshift claims it does. The only way to check is install on ext4 and compare. I have saves enough free space to do this. My effort to date is to move my home to /mnt/data and sim-link it into /home. df is now showing 2.3GB free on /. df showed /home as 2.2GB yesterday. At least there is a little space to play with; and give me time to consider. A fresh install may be worth checking in snapshots are as big as this all makes them look. a few brief answer to other comments will follow -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00
Re: partition reporting full, but not
On 17/2/24 17:08, Felix Miata wrote: Keith Bainbridge composed on 2024-02-17 15:44 (UTC+1100): Yes the / partitions are btrfs df was not designed for the task you gave it. You need to use btrfs filesystem commands: https://btrfs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/btrfs-filesystem.html Seems I have some serious reading to do Thanks for thelink -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00
Re: partition reporting full, but not
On 17/2/24 13:55, Gremlin wrote: On 2/16/24 21:38, Keith Bainbridge wrote: Good afternoon All I have just rebooted this laptop to ensure it is 'fresh' / is reporting full. Trying to locate where I ran sudo du -hPx --max-depth=1 / 0 /mnt 181M /boot 15M /etc 0 /media 236M /opt 336K /root 0 /srv 4.0K /tmp 8.1G /usr 726M /var 9.2G / keith@dell0 $ Sat 17Feb2024@13:33:29 :~ But: >> sudo df -h / Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3 36G 35G 100M 100% / keith@dell0 $ Sat 17Feb2024@13:33:39 :~ Where do I start locating the conflicting information please? Do you have any nfs mounts? No nfs mounts Thankyou -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00
Re: partition reporting full, but not
On 17/2/24 13:52, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 01:38:56PM +1100, Keith Bainbridge wrote: >> sudo df -h / Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda336G 35G 100M 100% / First off: you don't need sudo for this, ever. Second: what kind of file system is this? sudo du -hPx --max-depth=1 / 0 /mnt 181M/boot 15M /etc 0 /media 236M/opt 336K/root 0 /srv 4.0K/tmp 8.1G/usr 726M/var 9.2G/ So I guess the question is "Where's the rest of that 35 G used data?" My wife is often telling me I'm not clear (obtuse). Thank you for clarifying the question Conspicuously missing from this output is /home. Is that a separate file system? If so, you *could* have data inside the /home directory of the root file system, which is hidden by the /home file system that's mounted over it. You'd need to unmount /home to check. It's not a super probable situation, but it's worth checking. I had wondered why /home was missing and concluded that as it's listed if I df -h /home/ Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3 ===same partiton as / 36G 35G 100M 100% /home keith@dell0 $ Then >> sudo du -hPx --max-depth=1 /home/ [sudo] password for root: 2.2G/home/keith 2.2G/home/ keith@dell0 $ So, part of the missing 35G, but nothing significant I checked my daily driver - lenv0, and I have the same situation - sudo du -hPx --max-depth=1 / [sudo] password for root: 265M/boot 18M /etc 0 /media 947M/opt 1.5M/root 0 /srv du: cannot access '/tmp/.mount_Espansr8ZHig': Permission denied 12M /tmp 9.6G/usr 1.8G/var 13G / >> sudo du -hPx --max-depth=1 /home/ 3.0M /home/ke1th 3.0M/home/ keith@lenv0 $ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on udev7.2G 0 7.2G 0% /dev tmpfs 1.5G 1.9M 1.5G 1% /run /dev/nvme0n1p2 63G 27G 35G 44% / tmpfs 7.3G 84M 7.2G 2% /dev/shm tmpfs 5.0M 16K 5.0M 1% /run/lock /dev/nvme0n1p2 63G 27G 35G 44% /home In this case /home/keith is a sym link to another partition. But still 14GB difference between the 2 reporting processes. The same applies to any other directory that's got a file system mounted on it. I have had data written to /mnt/someDisk when the partition was NOT mounted. I get that suggestion. Those instances showed up in du though. Or... it could be some bizarre btrfs crap. If this is a btrfs. Yes the / partitions are btrfs The annoying habit of listing /home at df seems to be part of btrfs standard practice which I dislike. So far the ability to create timeshift and BackInTime snapshots in the proverbial blink of an eye are VERY good points for btrfs.Seems I need to allow for more more 'slack' space as well? du is reporting my timeshift directory as 0, and the internal subdir that lists save file as 108K. This tells me that btrfs is doing something magic. Guess I'll be contemplating reinstalling onto ext4 in my sleep tonight. To answer another question - no NFS Thanks All -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00
partition reporting full, but not
Good afternoon All I have just rebooted this laptop to ensure it is 'fresh' / is reporting full. Trying to locate where I ran sudo du -hPx --max-depth=1 / 0 /mnt 181M/boot 15M /etc 0 /media 236M/opt 336K/root 0 /srv 4.0K/tmp 8.1G/usr 726M/var 9.2G/ keith@dell0 $ Sat 17Feb2024@13:33:29 :~ But: >> sudo df -h / Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda336G 35G 100M 100% / keith@dell0 $ Sat 17Feb2024@13:33:39 :~ Where do I start locating the conflicting information please? -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00
Re: Combining Distro DVD's
Good evening All I know some people just like a challenge. Who will use the result, though I wonder if ventoy would achieve a similar result There is a 32MB partition for efi; and the rest, which for me at present is: ls /media/keith/Ventoy/ apps linuxmint-21.3-cinnamon-64bit-beta.iso configfiles lmde-6-cinnamon-64bit.iso debian-live-12.4.0-amd64-cinnamon.iso manjaro-cinnamon-23.0.1-230921-linux65.iso debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso Win10_22H2_EnglishInternational_x64v1.iso kali-linux-2023.4-installer-purple-amd64.iso keith@lenv0 $ the iso's are just copied onto the main partition. apps/ is my daily drivers that I keep on a separate partition. Things like firefox & thunderbird dev editions and a few appImages configfiles/: .bashrc, _history _aliases data for espanso I boot to the USB and am offered the list of iso's to start, just like grubb on a multI boot system. click the iso I want I imagine that the subsequent iso's could be opened after you boot from the first iso. Next project - get the iso to retain any changes I make All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00 On 13/2/24 19:24, hw wrote: On Mon, 2024-02-12 at 13:41 -0500, Steve Matzura wrote: I thought it'd be a nice idea to combine any and all distribution media for a release into a single medium--a USB drive, of course. I'd start by creating my USB drive by extracting the first DVD to it, thereby ensuring the boot block and boot material is where it should be. But then what do I do with the additional media? [...] Maybe put a copy of a Debian mirror onto another partition.
Re: (SOLVED) disable trackpad when mouse is connected (GNOME bug?)
Good afternoon Another option is to use a keyboard shortcut. My last laptop came with this set up using a Fn key combo (eg fn-f5) So I'm using a key that was set to answer MSteams calls - what? Check keyboard - shortcuts - touchpad. cinnamon gives options of toggle/switch on/ switch-off. I guess gnome will be similar as it was the basis of cinnamon All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00 On 26/1/24 13:53, Max Nikulin wrote: On 25/01/2024 21:42, Max Nikulin wrote: Try lsusb --verbose --tree I have received a private reply. Please, send messages to the mailing list in such cases. I intentionally combined -vt options and I find output more convenient than for just "lsusb -t". The "-t" option changes behavior of "-v". If you do not like how it is documented, please, discuss it with usbutils developers.
RE: Debian 12 System Requirement
Dear Andersson, Thanks for your reply. It is because our Vendor highly recommends us to purchase a new server to install Debian 12. Therefore, I seek your expert opinion. Best Regards, Keith Cheng | Officer (IT)/HQIP Tel: 3907 6721 | Fax: 3165 1106 From: Anders Andersson Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 11:05 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Jessica Chan ; CHAN OI YI ; CHENG YING KIT KEITH Subject: Re: Debian 12 System Requirement CAUTION: External email. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 10:27 AM CHENG YING KIT KEITH mailto:keithch...@vtc.edu.hk>> wrote: Dear Colleagues, Can I install Debian 11 or 12 with “Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2699 v3 @ 2.30GHz” CPU? Do they both support the following application Nginx 1.22.1 PHP 8.2.7 Mariadb 10.11.4 On the other hand, may I know the minimum requirement of Debian 11 and 12? For what it's worth, my main workhorse is an even older Xeon, E3-1270 about 3 years older than yours. I installed debian 12 without even questioning if it worked, because of course it would, and it works extremely well! The OS is snappy with the default Gnome on Wayland on my 3840x1600 monitor, and that's with a pretty slow mid-range GPU from 2016. You should definitely not be afraid of running debian on this machine! RAM and storage I/O will be your main limits.
Debian 12 System Requirement
Dear Colleagues, Can I install Debian 11 or 12 with "Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2699 v3 @ 2.30GHz" CPU? Do they both support the following application Nginx 1.22.1 PHP 8.2.7 Mariadb 10.11.4 On the other hand, may I know the minimum requirement of Debian 11 and 12? Best Regards, Keith Cheng | Officer (IT)/HQIP Tel: 3907 6721 | Fax: 3165 1106
Re: rsync --delete vs rsync --delete-after
On 18/1/24 04:19, David Christensen wrote: > I use rsync to copy my primary backup drive to a secondary backup drive Good morning I wonder why both processes don't copy from the original data; so that you don't copy a potential glitch in the first backup? on a separate matter Glitch? Power goes off inconveniently? -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithr...@gmail.com keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00
Re: Edit NIC Address
David I use nmtuI (from a terminal) for jobs like this. I think it is installed by default. I'd bet you'll be terminated when the change activates All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00 On 5/1/24 15:30, David wrote: Morning Group, With the latest Debian I'm trying to find the file to edit to change the IP address of a remote box, can anybody point me in the correct direction please? I can SSH into this box, but cannot find the file to edit. Thank you, David.
Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed. (fwd)
+1 -- All the best Keith BAINBRIDGE +61 447 667 468 keithr...@gmail.com GMT + 10 From my Apad On 29 November 2023 9:07:38 am AEDT, john doe wrote: >On 11/28/23 22:51, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> >> > >Lets keep the possibility of being able to send constructive e-mails >through mailing lists so we can avoid having to move to a forum based >set up. > >-- >John Doe >
Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"
I've been using K9 for a while. It does threading by dropping the thread into a new 'tree' similar to tbird's indenting of an open thread in its main tree, but in a side window where I scroll the thread and press back arrow when I want to close the thread. FairEmail does threading the same way. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithr...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC+ 10:00 From my Aphone On 14 November 2023 8:42:57 am AEDT, jeremy ardley wrote: > >On 14/11/23 02:30, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: >> On 13/11/2023 14:50, Anssi Saari wrote: >>> The Wanderer writes: >>> >>>>> And those are getting rare, I can't find a nice MUA for Android with >>>>> proper threading. >>>> >>>> If you ever do find one, please let me know. The lack of such a thing is >>>> the primary reason why I don't do E-mail on Android *at all*. >>> >>> Possibly FairEmail would fit the bill. They advertize "conversation >>> threading" but I don't really if it's proper or not. The author is >>> responsive though. >> >> Unfortunately doesn't look like so, this "coversation" threading is what >> gmail does, a linear sequence of messages. > > >I use Bluemail on android. It claims to do threading though I don't use it. >Bluemail seems competent.
Re: Anybody familiar with dd (copy)?
On 4/11/23 07:14, Marco M. wrote: dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/tmp/dvd.bin conv=noerror oflag=direct Is it worth trying: sudo dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/tmp/dvd.iso -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com keithr...@gmail.com 0447 667 468 UTC +10:00
Re: Anybody familiar with dd (copy)?
On 4/11/23 07:14, Marco M. wrote: dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/tmp/dvd.bin conv=noerror oflag=direct Is it worth trying: dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/tmp/dvd.iso -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com keithr...@gmail.com 0447 667 468 UTC +10:00
Is this accurate
Or is there more to it than this writer is declaring? uses the EXT4 filesystem by default. You can convert the filesystem to BTRFS to take advantage of the in-built compression features. Using compression can reduce the disk usage by up to 60% without any noticeable impact on CPU usage. It also improves storage performance, since less data needs to be read and written to the SD Card. BTRFS also supports filesystem snapshots that allow you to roll back the system to a previous state in case of issues. The article is about Ubuntu on raspberry pi, but may relate to debian in general. I'd really like a pointer to a non-technical how to set it all up, if accurate Thanks All the best Keith BAINBRIDGE +61 (0)447 667 468 keithr...@gmail.com UTC + 10 >From my Apad
Fwd: btrfs snapshots (of root file system)?
Try ext4 All the best Keith BAINBRIDGE +61 (0)447 667 468 keithr...@gmail.com UTC + 10 >From my Apad -- Forwarded message - From: Keith Bainbridge Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023, 20:32 Subject: Re: btrfs snapshots (of root file system)? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org I use timeshift for this. It claims to use btrfs as an option. I've only used rsync on extra, and that has saved my bacon a few times All the best Keith BAINBRIDGE +61 (0)447 667 468 keithr...@gmail.com UTC + 10 >From my Apad On Sun, 1 Oct 2023, 15:10 hw, wrote: > Hi, > > with btrfs, how do I make a snapshot of the root file system? The > purpose is to update software and being able to go back to a previous > state if necessary. > > There doesn't seem to be a command to create snapshots but only > subvolumes? How does a subvolume turn into a snapshot? (The root > file system is, of course, not on a subvolume.) > > How do I merge snapshots? IIRC, when you remove a ZFS snapshot, the > older state is merged to the state the snapshot is in. Apparently > btrfs can only delete snapshots --- and it seems like a bad idea to > delete the root file system. How would I boot from it when it's been > deleted? > > Can I make a snapshot on a different volume? The manpage doesn't say > that the destination of a subvolume must be on the same volume, and in > any case, I should be able to do that. > >
Re: btrfs snapshots (of root file system)?
I use timeshift for this. It claims to use btrfs as an option. I've only used rsync on extra, and that has saved my bacon a few times All the best Keith BAINBRIDGE +61 (0)447 667 468 keithr...@gmail.com UTC + 10 >From my Apad On Sun, 1 Oct 2023, 15:10 hw, wrote: > Hi, > > with btrfs, how do I make a snapshot of the root file system? The > purpose is to update software and being able to go back to a previous > state if necessary. > > There doesn't seem to be a command to create snapshots but only > subvolumes? How does a subvolume turn into a snapshot? (The root > file system is, of course, not on a subvolume.) > > How do I merge snapshots? IIRC, when you remove a ZFS snapshot, the > older state is merged to the state the snapshot is in. Apparently > btrfs can only delete snapshots --- and it seems like a bad idea to > delete the root file system. How would I boot from it when it's been > deleted? > > Can I make a snapshot on a different volume? The manpage doesn't say > that the destination of a subvolume must be on the same volume, and in > any case, I should be able to do that. > >
Re: General question regarding SSD and harddrive
On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 16:40:13 +0800 jeremy ardley wrote: > On 15/7/23 16:23, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > Is this done via gnome-settings? Or is there now a better option. > > An URL would be good > > > I set it up on my Debian 12 system first by using gnome desktop. My > mate > desktop then inherited the map > > I later found that you can run the cloud mapping application from > command line regardless of the desktop. I use mate and used the mate > terminal to do this: > > jeremy@client:~/Desktop$ gnome-control-center > > And follow the GUI prompts. > > I don't have a url describing this better, but it's not difficult > with the gnome application > > > > > Thanks Jeremy, Just what I have done, but I thought I had done this prior to upgrading to Deb12. I was interested because my connection has timed out a couple of times and the only solution I found was rebooting. Hasn't dis-connected for a few days, so maybe this issue is resolved. All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com 0447 667 468 UTC +1000
Re: General question regarding SSD and harddrive
On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 11:37:17 +0800 jeremy ardley wrote: > With Debian 12 you also have the option of using your Google Drive as > a virtual folder on your system, where everything is actually kept at > the Google end. Jeremy Is this done via gnome-settings? Or is there now a better option. An URL would be good Thanks All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com 0447 667 468 UTC +1000
Re: General question regarding SSD and harddrive
On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 20:08:56 -0700 David Christensen wrote: > If you computer has an available 2.5" drive bay and SATA port, I > suggest that you install a small, fast 2.5" SATA SSD for your > operating system, programs, and "hot" data (home directory, e-mail, > and working directories), and use the 2 TB HDD for the rest of your > data. I think you will be very pleased with the performance > improvement provided by a SATA SSD, and will not need a new computer. Moe I use a small data partition on a SSD for /home/me and symlink dir's from the larger drive into that /home/me. Debian helps by offering to set up a /home partition at installation. It means that my recent files open quicker. eg : >> ls -lah /home/keith/Documents/ total 21M drwxrw--w- 16 keith keith 4.0K Jul 7 14:59 . drwxrw--w- 49 keith keith 4.0K Jun 7 12:20 .. drwxrw--w- 13 keith keith 4.0K Feb 28 21:21 0lder drwxrw--w- 5 keith keith 4.0K Feb 4 2022 2020 drwxrw--w- 3 keith keith 4.0K May 27 06:07 2021 drwxrw--w- 24 keith keith 4.0K May 27 06:09 2022 drwxrw--w- 16 keith keith 4.0K Jul 11 09:10 2023 I'll fix that zero in older one day. All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com 0447 667 468 38s X 144e
Trying to find the source iso's for debian buster and bookworm
Several versions back, we could download the source code on various iso files for previous and current releases. Where can those be found for Buster and Bookworm? Several searches turned up nothing. Thanks.
Re: Debian 11 upgrade to Debian 12
+1 -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468 Sent from my Android tablet, Please excuse my brevity.. On 28 February 2023 20:21:40 UTC, Tixy wrote: >On Tue, 2023-02-28 at 14:52 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 06:32:27PM +, Tixy wrote: >> > On Tue, 2023-02-28 at 13:16 -0500, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: >> > [...] >> > > All I did was modify /etc/apt/sources.list from Bullseye to Bookworm, >> > > then >> > > I ran apt update and apt upgrade. I guess I could have run apt >> > > full-upgrade >> > > and that probably would have worked better. >> > >> > It would have. If you looked at the release notes [1] it suggests >> > >> > # apt upgrade --without-new-pkgs >> > # apt full-upgrade >> > >> > Then lists some possible issues and there remedy. >> > >> > [1] >> > https://www.debian.org/releases/testing/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#minimal-upgrade >> >> It's also worth mentioning that in bookworm, non-free firmware has been >> moved to a new section called "non-free-firmware". If you use any of >> that -- most people do! -- then you either need to change "non-free" to >> "non-free-firmware" or to "non-free non-free-firmware", depending on >> your specific needs. >> > >That's is the release notes too :-) (I know, there's probably only a >small minority of us who actually read the docs before upgrading.) > >-- >Tixy >
Re: Bios problem
Remember too that many distros have activated a grub setting that means it will no longer search for other installations. Turn that off: Edit the file in /etc/default named 'grub'. Add 'GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false' anywhere in the script. Run grub install, 'grub-install' -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468 Sent from my Android tablet, Please excuse my brevity.. On 23 February 2023 22:06:39 UTC, "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: >On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 12:49:25PM +, Simeone Dominique wrote: >> Good afternoon, >> i installed a linŭx deepin operating system in addition to debian and linŭx >> mint and when i start the fujitsu it boots to the bios as if there is no >> operating system. >> What to do? >> Good for you. >> Mr. Dominique Simeone >> >> > >For Deepin and Mint - you may need to go to their forums / lists and ask >them. Different distributions do things differently. > >How did you install each operating system? > >Is each one using BIOS / legacy MBR? > >Is each one using UEFI? > >Do you have any shared directory - like a shared /home - between all >the OS? > >Please tell us *exactly* what you have done as far as you can. > >Do you have any logs of the install available to you? > >All the very best, as ever, > >Andy Cater >
Re: usb device
On February 11, 2023 10:24:47 PM UTC, "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: >On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 10:16:48PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com >wrote: >> i'm looking at a perixx perimice-513l usb mouse >> i can't find or have overlooked info about it working with linux >> is anyone familiar with this device >> > >USB mice generally *just work*, thought I'm not sure how well buttons >might map. > >I have access to a perixx trackball which seems well built. >The worst that can happen is that you have to work out how to >initialise >one or more buttons, but it might all work perfectly. > >All the very best, as ever, > >Andy Cater -- +1 I have used USB mouse in Linux boxes for 20 years. They have just plugged in, including my current laptop on linux-image 6.0. Sent from Open Mail on Android.
Re: Cannot rum multiple command on remote machine via SSH
On 4 February 2023 11:26:18 pm UTC, Charles Curley wrote: >>On Sat, 4 Feb 2023 11:24:37 + >>Ottavio Caruso wrote: >> >>> At night, I want to connect to LAP2 and perform these commands: >>> >>> $ sudo tlp setcharge 90 95 BAT1 # resets battery settings for >>> external battery >>> >>> $ hibernate.sh # a script that performs some housekeeping, puts >>> laptop into hibernation and eventually disconnects sshd. >> >>Not what you asked, but why not automate these with cron jobs? >> Do you get a command prompt after the first command. What happens if you run ls After that first command? Please copy/paste your input and output for both sudo tlp setcharge 90 95 BAT1 And ls as one paste. -- Please excuse top posting. I've tried to correct it. Settings say reply below the text, but it's NOT doing so. Should I exclude the original text? All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com keith.bainbridge.3...@mail.com Sent from my aPad
Re: Ctrl-C ignored after pasting a long text in an X terminal emulator
Sorry if this comes as a top post. I can't see the original text here Isn't it shft-ctrl-c to copy from x-term?
Re: latest testing update broke my laptop
;I don't blame Debian in this case. It's clearly an nVidia problem. Normally I >>stay away from them when getting something for Linux, but I got a great Black >>Friday deal. That's why I even got a new laptop to begin with. Apart from the >>nVidia components, it seems to work fine. >> >>Added nothing - just removed the Windows partitions and installed Linux. >> >>As I explained, I used Debian netinst copied to a Ventoy USB. What was >>strange is that Stable has no problem installing (just problems running) but >>Testing seems to get hung up with the networking (when I tried a graphical >>install, it at least showed that was what it was doing. The text based >>installer flashed something on the screen but never got around to doing more >>than the background colours - no text or progress bar - so I wasn't sure what >>it was doing). Also the current testing alpha netinst iso doesn't seem work >>with Ventoy, which meant I had to dd it to its own usb stick. And yes, I only >>download the files from debian.org. >> >>Have you tried finding the Debian Testing netinst checksums? You can find >>them for the weekly builds if you look hard enough but not the ones for the >>Alpha release. I thought maybe the alpha release would be a little more >>stable than a weekly build >> >>I can confirm that the problem with FAT32 was fixed by a reboot. I don't >>reboot every day normally, >> >>The laptop is an ASUS FA506ICB. I'll be filing a bug report or three later. >>Yesterday I just needed to get it working again, but I wanted to document the >>pulling of hair and gnashing of teeth - I suspect I may have to do this >>again... >> >> OK, try this https://linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=297 Linux Mint Debian addition is Debian stable with some mint improvements. It has worked better for me than Debian stable. I converted to deb testing several months ago, and disabled the mint repo line from sources shortly after. I update and upgrade almost daily. The only issue I've had has been a long standing niggle (long before this lmde installation) where I find the laptop totally unresponsive when I open the lid some mornings - about fortnightly. If that .iso doesn't work, try the Ubuntu based mint .iso at https://linuxmint.com/download.php Seriously, I suspect that simply deleting the windows partitions removed some part of the boot process that you need. What not try a clean install that totally wipes the drive when you find a system that works -- Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@mail.com 0447 667 468 Sent from aPad
Re: MacOS VM on Debian: is it reasonably possible?
On 22/11/22 07:34, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 2:36 PM Tom Browder wrote: I'm going to try to run Win 10 as a VM on my new Deb box following instructions I've received on this list. Has anyone been able to run a recent version of MacOS as a VM? Years ago I ran a Hackintosh VM with a Linux host over x86_64 . I think it was running on Ubuntu with VirtualBox. My need for Hackintosh went away a long time ago because I bought the real Apple product after a few years. Jeff Good morning Tom Last time I tried running osX in vbox, I was told I had to use the server version of osX, which I didn't have. Apple may have changed that, but The vbox new guest button takes you through the set-up pretty straight forwardly. The only thing I change is the RAM allocation. Although somebody here said a year or 3 ago that the defaults are there because they work best. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 11 - How to install Gtkmm
On 10/11/22 11:09, Amn wrote: Trying to install Gtkmm 4 in a Debian 11 box I do this : sudo apt install libgtkmm-4.0-dev But then I get this error : Unable to locate package libgtkmm-4.0-dev What am I doing wrong? Amn I run testing, and latest version here is 3.0-1v5. Alternative version is 2.4-1v5 -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: Status of Virtualbox in debian
On 21/6/22 20:53, Siard wrote: On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 00:05 +0100, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: On 20/06/2022 14:55, Siard wrote: On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 14:21 +0200, Anders Andersson wrote: Has something changed that makes virtualbox workable again, I have the Virtualbox 6.1.34 package for Debian 11, downloaded from www.virtualbox.org, working fine in Debian 12 (Bookworm). Have you succeeded in gaining support for USB? I haven't yet got past the and guest Additions stage. Indeed, USB appears not to be working. (Never used it.) I have dkms and dh-dkms installed. The VirtualBox-6.1 deb has been installed and upgraded with 'dpkg -i'. It also puts VBoxGuestAdditions.iso into /usr/share/virtualbox. Then in the guest OS you can choose Devices > Insert Guest Additions CD image... from the menu. More about installing and maintaining the guest additions: www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#additions-linux I should also note that right now there appear to be problems with the latest kernel, 5.18.0. The message in the terminal where VB was started from, says: "WARNING: The vboxdrv kernel module is not loaded. Either there is no module available for the current kernel (5.18.0-1-amd64) or it failed to load." Probably a temporary problem. When starting Debian with the previous kernel 5.17.0, VB still works. You'll need to download and install the closed source Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack from their site to get USB3 working. From memory USB2 will work with the guest-additions-pack; but could be USB1. The USB needs to be mounted in linux for it to be recognised in vbox. I only use USB to update my portable apps at my volunteer job. The tech area is run by contracted MSCertified techies. My experience is that they aren't familiar with gmail basics, so I'm not sure they belong in the real world - or is it that they are only allowed to say they know MS stuff. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com 0447 667 468
Re: virtualbox kernel modules?
On 17/6/22 00:08, Boyan Penkov wrote: On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 12:09 AM Keith Bainbridge wrote: Cheers! Good afternoon Boyan What happened when you installed to 2 suggested items? Hey Keith -- yes, thanks for the pointer; you're absolutely correct... Somehow linux-image-headers was not installed on this machine. Once it was, cleaned some stuff up, and this problem went away... Of course, question for the DMs, then -- why not make the headers a dependency of virtualbox-dkms? Thanks kindly! Been there before. Yes, it should be a required package for VBox. Perhaps we should record this where such difficulties go, but I can never remember the list name when I want it (like now). Frankly, it's part of the reason I prefer LinuxMint Debian. A lot more user packages are installed by default. By the bye, it's good form to reply to the list, not just the responder. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: virtualbox kernel modules?
On 16/6/22 06:11, Boyan Penkov wrote: Hello folks, Installing virtualbox and virtualbox-qt from sid, and running `virtualbox --version` returns the below: ``` WARNING: The character device /dev/vboxdrv does not exist. Please install the virtualbox-dkms package and the appropriate headers, most likely linux-headers-amd64. You will not be able to start VMs until this problem is fixed. ``` Modprobing for vboxdrv returns no modules. Has anybody seen this with more recent virtualbox installs? Cheers! Good afternoon Boyan What happened when you installed to 2 suggested items? -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: I am stuck with this while installing devian on my IMac early 2006
On May 29, 2022, at 2:30 PM, Nusrath Moin wrote: Whenever i login after installing debian on my imac early 2006 it shows "debian gnu/linux comes with absolutely no warranty, to the extent permitted by applicable law" That message is normal when you log in to a terminal. I think OSx showed the same, but it's too long ago. Apple decided that my similar aged macbook wasn't good enough any more in 2011. That machine worked well on linux until 2016. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: Debian desktop environment
On 24/5/22 23:23, Brian wrote: Hi, After my surrender to Jessie I've thought of moving on with Stretch. Careful! If you go on like this you will end up installing bullseye :). Bookworm? SID? -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Android email client that does bottom posting
Good Evening All I top posted last night, in error. Sorry I have asked the devs where the bottom posting setting has gone. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com Sent from my aPhone. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye
Tom Did you remove the old drive and try the SSD using the installer? On 27 April 2022 11:06:20 am UTC, Tom Browder wrote: >I am trying to replace the original hard drive on an old Toshiba laptop >with a 1 TB SSD from Crucial. (I had recently successfully done that in an >old Dell Latitude and had no problems.) > >I first did a clean install of Debian 11 on the old drive to ensure the >laptop works okay. Then I installed the new SSD and it can't find the >drive. From what I can find at Crucial, I need to install their Storage >Executive program on a Windows host, hook up the SSD to a USB/SATA >connector on that host, and configure or install the firmware onto the SSD. > >I was foolish not to have researched their SSD use on a Linux host, but I >got lulled into their "upgrade your computer" site that told me the exact >models that were hardware-compatible. > >Of course I may have fried the SSD, but I am fairly confident that the >device is operable. > >Suggestions are greatly appreciated. > >Best regards, > >-Tom
Re: backing up backups
On 11/4/22 10:58, Default User wrote: So . . . what IS the correct way to make "backups of backups"? Sorry to take so long to respond. I am traveling and have only short periods that I can spend on non-pressing matters. To answer your question: the method that gets you the result you want. I have used 2 switches in rsync to create a date/time copy of files that are updated: --backup-dir=/mnt/data/rsynccBackupp/$YEAR/$MON/$TODAY/$HOUR/ source/ target creates an archive directory of older versions of files. I have noticed at times that it creates copies of files that I haven't fouched. Needs looking at, but it will something I'm doing. The variables are set in the script: YEAR=`date +%Y` MON=`date +%b` TODAY=`date +%d` NOW=`date +%Y%b%d%H` HOUR=`date +%H` rsync -avbH --suffix="."$(date +"%Y%m%d%H%M")source/ target/ replaces the standard ~ at the end of the file being updated with current time, in a numerical string. Keeps all versions of the files together. Which suits you better. As for how to 'backup your backup?' I copy everything from source documents to my backup drives, and set cron to run the script for each drive at a different time of day/hour - yes I backup current docs hourly. I'm lucky - I don't notice rsync affecting my performance. Timeshift is a great tool. I know you are correct to copy the system to a different drive. I figure that if I get to a point where I can't access the time shift files on /timeshift I'm in deep trouble. I just re-install. / has only system files on it. /home/keith is sym-linked from another partition. In any case, copying /timeshift from your system OR your first backup drive should be trivial for rsync. Out of time, but I think that's enough to think about for now -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: moving dir with lots of files
On 18/4/22 12:24, Bijan Soleymani wrote: On 2022-04-18 00:16, Adriel Peng wrote: Hello I plan to move a dir which has about 0.4 million files to a new location. This new location is a network storage. I will run the command: nohup mv dir /mnt/disk/newdir I guess this will take a lot of hours to finish. My question is, if the process gets an unexpected interruption, what will happen and how can I recover it? Thanks. If you can afford not to do a move but a copy and then a delete, then I would recommend using rsync rsync will transfer what is missing if interrupted If there is nothing missing it will finish pretty quickly. I sync 130GB in 1.4 million files over the internet regularly and if there are no changes it take about 20 seconds to finish (the disks are fast on both ends). If there are changes it transfers about as fast as the network can go. Bijan I have found that rsync -avHb --remove-source-files dir /mnt/disk/newdir moves files in one process. If it is interupted, re-running will simply pick up where it was halted. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: Installing/Preparing Debian on a headless system
On 10/3/22 01:57, Christian Britz wrote: Hello, after learning that the Debian-based RaspberryPi OS does not get security fixes always in time (see dirty-pipe), I am considering installing pure Debian on my system. It seems not all proprietary components are supported, but I don't need video acceleration anyway, for example. My Pi acts as a home server. The thing is, the Pi is headless, it was never connected to a monitor or keyboard, all configuration was done via SSH on a pre-built Raspberry PI OS image. I do not even have an USB keyboard and the Pi has obviously no PS/2 connectors. Do you have some ideas for me, how I could prepare a minimal Debian image on my notebook which is able to boot on the Pi and has already an user and SSH configured? Everything else I would setup remotely. Thank you, Christian Good afternoon Christian I'm not sure why you aren't getting security updates. When I run # apt update on my Pi4, the first line of output is : Get:1 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security InRelease [44.1 kB] uname : Linux rasp14 5.10.92-v8+ #1514 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jan 17 17:39:38 GMT 2022 aarch64 GNU/Linux Should there be more that I am missing? Tim Thanks for the link to Gunnar's image. My next project, well maybe the one after. Thanks -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: Gnome/VirtualBox/Windows copy-paste CR issue.
Good afternoon Kaz I suggest you install mate-terminal and try from that. If that works, compare the preferences and check out a few options that I've not found in gnome-terminal, like auto copy highlighted text to clipboard. I don't recall trying to copy into win10, so I can't answer that specifically On Thu, 10 Mar 2022, 09:48 Kaz Kylheku, wrote: > Hi All, > > I have Debian 11 in a VirtualBox, guest to a Windows host. The > guest additions is installed, with bidirectional clipboard enabled. > > When I select text in a Gnome application like Gnome Terminal or > Gedit, and then paste it into some guest application, there are extra > blank lines. > > If I paste it into GVim, it reveals the cause: instead of extra blank > lines, > GVim shows embedded carriage returns: ^M at the end of every line. > > (Windows programs do not understand this as a Windows line ending; for > instance > if we paste into Notepad, it shows interleaved blank lines.) > > This is quite strange; other virtual machines, e.g. Ubuntu, don't > exhibit > this behavior: same version of VirtualBox, same host. I've basically > never > seen this before! > > I tried copying and pasting something out of other applications running > on that same Debian 11 VM, such as Firefox and LibreOffice Writer. > The issue does not show up. > > Within the Debian 11 system, there is no problem either; e.g. copying > from Gnome Terminal into an edit control in Firefox or whatever. > > Any advice on where to go looking? > > > > >
Re: How do I make Debian Mate look like Linux Mint Mate?
On 9/3/22 05:00, didier gaumet wrote: Le mardi 08 mars 2022 à 12:14 +, Ottavio Caruso a écrit : Hi, Warning: I might have asked this question before and somebody gave me the answer but I did not save it. My system : https://termbin.com/h9j0l I am thinking of migrating from LMDE4 to Bullseye Mate but I want to retain the Mint look and feel. How do I do that? I have run the Live CD image of Debian Mate Bullseye but it doesn't look remotely as cool as the one on Linux Mint. Actually Mate was dropped by Mint some time ago. I suspect the customizations come from Cinnamon, but I am not sure. If anybody has a clue, any input will be appreciated. Hello, I suppose you could search for packages containing "theme" or "artwork" or something similar in their name that are present in the LMDE4 repo: http://packages.linuxmint.com/list.php?release=debbie Good afternoon Ottavio Or even: http://packages.linuxmint.com/list.php?release=elsie for lmde5 (bullseye) packages. I'd like to ask another question. Apart from the panel, how much of the desktop do you see for more than a few seconds that it takes to log in? I rarely see anything other than the panel and making that look how I want is pretty easy in Mate. My tastes are simple so I go for a solid colour. But from memory, you can have a background image. Desktop and log in screen are an image I choose outside of Mint. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: Definitive instructions for Buster LTS security updates
> The OP is tilting at windmills. > > The example I posted has been used every three hours of my waking day > for the past 2½ years. It fails when my cable company fails. > > The OP has quoted some hearsay off the web, period. And not a single > reference with it. The OP calls this "pre-startup research", and > will "verify [ … ] your suggestions" when the Oracle has handed down > "the correct sources.list". > > Until then, the Buster machine will stay de-activated, the OP remains > safe, and we await the Oracle. > > (Those who know their Classical history will realise that advice > pulled from the Internet can be as ambiguous as the Oracle always was.) > > Cheers, > David. David, Windmills, LOL. I've always liked that one. I brought up the old Buster machine and it's working fine with one mod to he original sources list, uncommenting this line: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main Since I didn't know that Buster was not yet in LTS, and that there are no changes needed, I thought I should ask first in case there were repo changes. Thanks for your comments. Keith
Re: Definitive instructions for Buster LTS security updates
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 7:33 AM Tixy wrote: > I assume because Buster isn't in Long Term Support yet, it's still in > normal support by the security team. From the schedule on the wiki, > it's due to go into LTS this July. Thanks Tixy, I remembered that I made a copy of the original sources.list file on the day of install. Here it is, I wonder why the security line failed to verify (Line 11) ? The entire sources.list appears below. # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: #deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main It seems this line should be uncommented? #deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main =LISTING START $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.orig # # deb cdrom:[Official Debian GNU/Linux Live 10.0.0 kde 2019-07-06T10:52]/ buster main #deb cdrom:[Official Debian GNU/Linux Live 10.0.0 kde 2019-07-06T10:52]/ buster main deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: #deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: #deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main # buster-updates, previously known as 'volatile' # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: #deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: #deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main # This system was installed using small removable media # (e.g. netinst, live or single CD). The matching "deb cdrom" # entries were disabled at the end of the installation process. # For information about how to configure apt package sources, # see the sources.list(5) manual. =====LISTING END Keith
Re: Definitive instructions for Buster LTS security updates
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 6:31 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 06:25:35AM -0700, Keith Christian wrote: > > My first search brought me to wiki.debian.org, where I landed on the > > /LTS/Using page, but it contained no Buster-specific instructions. > > See also <https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBuster> which says: > > Q) Where do I get buster packages? > Use the following sources for buster: > > deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main > deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main > > > E: The repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/updates > > Release' does not have a Release file. > > You've got an error here. Either you meant this to be a security line, > and you've forgotten to use "debian-security" at the tail end of the > URL field, or else you meant this to be a "buster-updates" line, and > accidentally used a / instead of a - character in the third field. > > (I'm not sure if a buster-updates repository section still exists for > that release, but if it does, it'll be spelled with a hyphen.) > Thanks Greg, The Buster machine I'm planning to re-activate is still powered off until I find the exact security update lines for sources.list. This error that you mention below is an example from my "pre-startup research," showing a user's report. When I find the correct sources.list lines I'll verify them with your suggestions below. > > E: The repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/updates > > Release' does not have a Release file. > > You've got an error here. Either you meant this to be a security line, > and you've forgotten to use "debian-security" at the tail end of the > URL field, or else you meant this to be a "buster-updates" line, and > accidentally used a / instead of a - character in the third field. Keith
Definitive instructions for Buster LTS security updates
I plan to bring a Buster machine which has been shut down for quite a while online again. Before connecting it to the internet, I looked for instructions on how to add the LTS security updates entries to sources.list. My first search brought me to wiki.debian.org, where I landed on the /LTS/Using page, but it contained no Buster-specific instructions. After more searches, I saw numerous posts containing messages like these, and I decided to double check the procedure to obtain LTS updates. E: The repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/updates Release' does not have a Release file. N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details. Seeing the above, I decided to ask here for the latest info. Thanks!
Re: Followup to my last...
On 18/1/22 18:29, R. Toby Richards wrote: I'm installing Debian 11. The installer says that it is missing firmware files: b43/ucode11.fw, b43/ucode11.fw, b43-open/ucode11.fw and b43-open/ucode.fw. If you have such media available now, insert it, and continue. I downloaded the dang unofficial DVD ISO that supposedly has non-free binaries, but the installer won't accept that media as having the Broadcom drivers that I need. Sneakernet doesn't work because every iteration of the ISO that I try has no working dpkg. I cannot dpkg the stuff I need for dpkg to work if dpkg is not working. I appreciate your stance on non-free binaries, but at least throw me a bone on the unofficial ISO files. -- _R. Toby Richards_ Good afternoon Toby Just a quick response Please advise the full name of your install .iso And output of command lspci at least the network controllers I've used b43 firmware in the past and it worked; but that macbook died about 5 years ago, so no recent knowledge -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: restructure folders
On 13/1/22 15:31, sp...@caiway.net wrote: I have this foldertree tree: /dir1/dirA/dirB /dir2/dir* I want the foldertree to become: /dirA/DirB /dir* Is this possible on the commandline? Any idea is welcome Thanks! Question - why do you have these directories in / If they really are in / would this do what you want cd /dir1 mv dirA / cd /dir2 mv dir* / I'd suggest you would be safer doing this in mc (a cli file manager) so you can see where you are sending the files -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: Question about email received
On 31/12/21 12:02, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, December 30, 2021 11:33:03 AM Julius Hamilton wrote: Yes, it’s fishy and nonsensical, I encourage you not to interact with it. Google would never intentionally send an email like that. +1 Who would subscribe with a 'noreply' type address?
Re: Peak load handling by Debian repository servers ????
One could run 'tcpdump' or a while loop logging the output of 'netstat -an' to a file for the duration of the interaction with the Debian servers, then, examine the file afterward.
Re: Need Support on Debian10 Kernel Upgrade
On Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 04:37 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Free(dom) Software was never meant to exclude comercial use or > developers earning a living (or a fortune) from it. > > > Agreed,.Andrei! > >
Re: Debian 11.1, xfce4-terminal, select entire line, middle-click, newline not pasted
On 6/12/21 13:15, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 6/12/21 06:56, David Christensen wrote: On Debian 9 (and 10, and earlier?) with Xfce Terminal, when I select an entire line of text in one terminal and then middle click paste in another terminal window, the entire line is pasted; including the newline. David You need to activate the copy text on highlight option in preferences. As I recall, right click in xterm to get preferences. Sorry Should have read further. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 11.1, xfce4-terminal, select entire line, middle-click, newline not pasted
On 6/12/21 06:56, David Christensen wrote: On Debian 9 (and 10, and earlier?) with Xfce Terminal, when I select an entire line of text in one terminal and then middle click paste in another terminal window, the entire line is pasted; including the newline. David You need to activate the copy text on highlight option in preferences. As I recall, right click in xterm to get preferences. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: Status of Bookworm
On 4/12/21 13:03, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Dec 04, 2021 at 12:30:52PM +1100, Keith Bainbridge wrote: netinst is cli only ... what? NO! try sudo tasksel and choose desktop options. xfce is listed The netinst image contains the same installer as the full DVD-1 image does. Good afternoon I tried a netinst using 487M Sep 30 07:22 firmware-testing-amd64-netinst.iso in vbox I chose the standard install (2nd option, rather than graphic install) and tasksel started after the .iso software updated. So maybe Kenneth's problem was no network connection. BUT that should have been reported during the install. Looks like my claim that netinst is cli was from the times I didn't run tasksel. Sorry. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: Status of Bookworm
Good morning Kenneth netinst is cli only try sudo tasksel and choose desktop options. xfce is listed All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468 On 4/12/21 10:44, Kenneth Parker wrote: When reading about changes to Bookworm (i.e. Enforcement of usrmerge), I figured that it is worth a qemu Install. So I downloaded the current Testing netinst cd and selected Expert Install. The reason for this email is that it does not give any Graphical Desktop options. (I am partial to Xfce, but fluent in the Command Line). Should I wait? (I am not ready to delve into sid, by the way). Thanks! Kenneth Parker
Re: why i can't download debian-live-10.11.0-i386-gnome.iso?
On 2/12/21 12:26, lou wrote: http://ftp.sunet.se/cdimage/archive/10.11.0-live/i386/iso-hybrid/ i use wget to download, length is 2G though ftp.sunet.se shows 2.6G ftp.funet.fi has same problem, live gnome image is more than 2G, i can't get it with wget http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/Linux/mirrors/debian-cdimage/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/ Good afternoon lou I often download files larger than 2G with wget Have you tried the debian download site? All the best Keith Bainbridge kkeithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Steve I use a line in /etc/fstab like this for just this purpose: UUID= /mount/point/you/want ext4defaults,noexec,noauto 0 2 Rememer to mkdir -p the mount point you want. And it doesn't have to be /media. The noexec means nothing can run from the device - not even root. You may not want that situation All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468 On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 09:57:23 +0100 steve wrote: >>Hi, >> >>I have an external ssd with two partitions. One is for Windows and the >>other one is an ext4 partition for data. >> >>Every time I plug in this ssd (via usb3), both partitions are mounted >>automatically. >> >>mount command gives: >> >>/dev/sdh1 on /media/steve/Samsung_T5 type fuseblk >>(rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096,uhelper=udisks2) >>/dev/sdh2 on /media/steve/T5Linux type ext4 >>(rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,stripe=8191,uhelper=udisks2) >> >>I don't need /dev/sdh1 under linux (it's mainly my son's game stuff). >>I also see sometimes errors in /var/log/syslog related to that >>partition. >> >>So is there a way to automatically mount /dev/sdh2 but not /dev/sdh1? >> >>Thanks >> >>steve >> >>
Re: No video after boot
On 12/11/21 08:58, Paul M. Foster wrote: There's a *more* advanced kernel in backports? I thought backports was for old stuff. And I've never used it, not sure how to do it. The other problem here is that, if I could actually boot, I could update the kernel. But without being able to boot the drive, I can't quite imagine how I'd update the kernel. Paul Paul Briefly, backports is a method of bringing newer stuff into stable, for people who really, really need newer. They are handled by a team who try to ensure that stuff in testing is working well enough that the rest of us should be able to use it with fewer problems than simply running testing. I thought you were getting a terminal? You said that you have another PC. So Find a tutorial on adding backports to your sources.list, then how to use backports. I have an alias that installs backports: sudo apt-get -y install --install-recommends -t bullseye-backports package The tutorial should explain how to add a line to your sources.list, # apt update, apt search linux-image check for signed images (linux-image-5.14.0-0.bpo.2-amd64/now 5.14.9-2~bpo11+1 amd64 [installed,local] Linux 5.14 for 64-bit PCs (signed) # apt-get -y install --install-recommends -t bullseye-backports (maybe???) linux-image-5.14.0-0.bpo.2-amd64from my list of available images -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: Samba Won't Mount, Buster to Bullseye migration
On 27/10/21 15:11, Charles Curley wrote: and some experimenting. ,noauto //samba.localdomain/samba /home/charles/samba cifs x-systemd.automount,_netdev,rw,credentials=/etc/samba/charles.credentials,uid=charles,gid=charles,file_mode=0644 0 0 Charles I've only ever seen the 'noauto' amongst the uid= gid= options Are you sure it should be first item in the entry? -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: xhost-command in Debian1
On 24/10/21 05:31, Charles Curley wrote: alias su="su --whitelist-environment=DISPLAY,XAUTHORITY" Doesn't that mean that when you type 'su' at a command prompt, the response will be running the command --whitelist-environment=DISPLAY,XAUTHORITY as root. You won't be able to switch to root using su in future? -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: security of debian default sudoers file (was: dead lock)
On 17/10/21 20:41, Gregor Zattler wrote: PS: in my opinion you should avoid creating a sudoers file unless you really know what you are doing. the defaults are very insecure. So force sudo to use the root passwd. After you ensure your root passwd works, simply add the line: Defaultsrootpw to /etc/sudoers. You should need a fresh terminal to test this. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: dead lock
On 17/10/21 00:33, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 03:00:28PM +1100, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 15/10/21 00:14, Greg Wooledge wrote: If for some reason you've forgotten the root password that you used during installation, or you've lost your membership in the sudo group, then you can add "init=/bin/bash" to the kernel parameters in GRUB, re-mount the root file system read/write, run the "passwd root" command to set a new root password, and then reboot again. Good afternoon My experience is that if you chose a root passwd at installation, sudo is NOT installed. Correct. I believe that in my earlier message, I said that sudo is installed only if you choose to leave the root password blank. If not, then I at least implied it. Yes you had said that. Somebody had kind of countered your comments by saying something like 'if you have lost access to sudo' I just wanted re-enforce your your words -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: dead lock
On 15/10/21 00:14, Greg Wooledge wrote: If for some reason you've forgotten the root password that you used during installation, or you've lost your membership in the sudo group, then you can add "init=/bin/bash" to the kernel parameters in GRUB, re-mount the root file system read/write, run the "passwd root" command to set a new root password, and then reboot again. Good afternoon My experience is that if you chose a root passwd at installation, sudo is NOT installed. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: Xfce4 Problem with User Desktop Background Color
On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 09:51:46 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: >>Given your second message, it is clear that this is a >>configuration issue that is under the control of your normal >>user, not an OS-wide problem. You will not need to reinstall. G'day All If you can't find a solution by adjusting settings, try starting your config again delet: .config/xfce4/ You'll be asked if you want a new default set up All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468
Re: Then it happened to me...
On 10/10/21 18:33, piorunz wrote: Why we don't have this? https://forum.manjaro.org/ Good afternoon All Last time this question was asked, I said I wouldn't use it. I've changed my mind. If a forum or similar is set up, I'll keep it open and somehow remember to look in regularly. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge ke1thozgro...@mail.com
Re: Trackpad freezing in Bullseye on HP Laptop w/Celeron N4020 CPU
On 10/10/21 00:49, John Kerr Anderson wrote: Hi Everyone, I've got an HP laptop that is having a problem of the trackpad freezing randomly when using the machine. If I plug an external mouse via USB or I do a I can log back in and get the mouse working again. It's annoying as it happens when you are working and is completely random when it does this. One message that comes up in the logs is : i8042: PNP: PS/2 appears to have AUX port disabled, if this is incorrect please boot with i8042.nopnp cat /proc/bus/input/devices | grep -i touchpad N: Name="SYNA3296:00 06CB:CD50 Touchpad" Any suggestions on how I could get the mouse to not freeze randomly? Thanks in advance, John Good mrning Have you activated the facility that the trackpad is disabled while typing? -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: iTunesSetup.exe in wine?
On 6/10/21 07:48, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: A bricked iPhone directs "connect to iTunes". Attempting to run iTunesSetup.exe on wine yields the following. Ideas? Thx, ... P. peter@joule:~$ wine iTunesSetup.exe 0104:fixme:file:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet 0104:fixme:ntdll:NtQuerySystemInformation info_class SYSTEM_PERFORMANCE_INFORMATION 0104:err:mscoree:LoadLibraryShim error reading registry key for installroot 0104:err:mscoree:LoadLibraryShim error reading registry key for installroot 0104:err:mscoree:LoadLibraryShim error reading registry key for installroot 0104:err:mscoree:LoadLibraryShim error reading registry key for installroot 0128:fixme:wbemprox:client_security_SetBlanket 62EA17A8, 0013B3A8, 10, 0, (null), 3, 3, , 0x 0128:fixme:wbemprox:client_security_Release 62EA17A8 0128:fixme:ntdll:NtQuerySystemInformation info_class SYSTEM_PERFORMANCE_INFORMATION 0104:err:msi:ITERATE_Actions Execution halted, action L"LaunchConditions" returned 1603 0024:fixme:kernelbase:AppPolicyGetProcessTerminationMethod FFFA, 0031FEAC peter@joule:~$ Option one: play-on-linux Option 2: CrossOver a commercial app, based on wine but with non-open-source and paid for content. Its main claim to fame was that it would run MSOffice better. There is a trial period. This link lists a few more options which I'd not heard of until I went looking for the name of Crossover: https://alternativeto.net/software/wine/?platform=linux -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: Problem installing
On 29/9/21 18:31, Brian wrote:
On Tue 28 Sep 2021 at 22:33:39 -0500, Igor Korot wrote:
[...]
Very simple and straightforward process:
1. Downloaded mini.iso.
2. Created a VM with 4G of RAM and 500G HDD.
3. Started the install
4. In the first menu selected "Advanced Options", then "Expert Install"
5. Follow thru the {install} menu. On the "Choosing a mirror..." ,
selected "sid - unstable"
6. Got an error about "The installation media do not seem to contain a
valid Release file, or that file
could not be read correctly". I presume that this is OK, since
mini.iso contains only a boot image
and not really a full blown install.
7. Next got following error:
"Installation step failed."
Try a Daily Image:
https://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/netboot/
I've just tried to repeat what you did and got a screen that I didn't
understand. I'm planning a fresh install shortly and figured this could
be as easy a way as any. Debian worked nicely in vbox - at least in
testing which is what I want in the end.
Suggest you try a 'standard' install - just accept the first option
'install'
I generally leave root passwd blank during the install, and set it with
sudo passwd
when you first log in. You may want it soone than you think, if
something goes wrong. This will set up sudo during the install, rather
htan having to install and set-up the app.
When you get the tasksel screen unselect the desktop items and proceed
with only the last item, 'standard system utilities'. This will save
downloading the desktop and other apps 2 or three times.
After you reboot, and log in, edit the repositories
sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
Change in the first 2 lines bullseye to testing, then # out the
remaining active lines.
run sudo apt update
sudo apt upgrade
This will install about 150 new programs
Reboot.
change testing to sid in /etc/apt/sources.list
run sudo apt update
sudo apt upgrade
again
reboot and run
sudo tasksel
select Debian desktop environment and the desktop/s you prefer. Web
server and/or ssh server as you wish
Reboot and you should get the desktop login screen you chose
It'll be 12 hours before I see your results. It's 21:15 here
--
All the best
Keith Bainbridge
keith.bainbridge3...@mail.com
0447 667 468
Re: Problem installing
On 29/9/21 12:05, Charles Curley wrote: On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 11:38:35 -0500 Igor Korot wrote: [quote] The Configuration Manager has failed. You can try and re-run it or you can skip it and continue [/quote] Something to that extent. If you have the exact text, you can then search on it. If the installation completes, installation logs are at /var/log/installer. What you want is probably toward the end of syslog. If the installation does not complete, open a console (CTL-ALT-F2), and use the command line to copy them to someplace you can get at them. They are at /var/log. CTL-ALT-F1 to get back to the menu. As you are working within virtualbox. that would ctrl-f2 and ctrl-f1. ctrl-alt-f2 would take you to the host terminal -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge3...@mail.com 0447 667 468
Re: Proprietary USB Drivers; Ya Gotta' Love'em.
Good afternoon Have you considered backports? All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468 On 26/9/21 13:30, Martin McCormick wrote: So, what is the easiest route to end up with a kernel that has this patch in it? The image for the current kernel is 4.19.0-5-686-pae
Re: Debian unstable - tracking the latest Firefox release?
On 20/9/21 08:34, Will wrote: > I'm on Debian unstable. Firefox is currently stuck on 88.x. Was there a > reason unstable wasn't tracking against later releases? The latest release > for Firefox is - AFAICT - version 92. Not in a rush to get to version 92, > but I've noticed it's lagged behind recently. :) > Alternatives are download and install either the nightly .tag.gz from firefox website or the nightly appimage Less adventurous is the devel version in either format. I see that I have unknowingly disabled updates on my nightly appimage, but I'm sure it works in my extracted .tar.gz version -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468
Re: APT testing and unstabe Firefox: can't find newest version from unstable
On Sat, 4 Sep 2021 13:50:19 +0200 "Daniel M." wrote: > To my understanding, unstable has 91.0.1-1 and experimental has > 91.0.1-2 as seen in https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/firefox. > Or you can download v92.0.b9 from https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/developer/ The button links to: https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-devedition-latest-ssl=linux64=en-US Extract the tar.bz2 on to a partition with exec priveledges. Start it by running path/extracted/to/firefox/firefox I don't recall having to mark it executable, but it's been a couple of years. All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com
Re: Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 12:23:09 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Wed 01 Sep 2021 at 20:12:06 (+0300), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Mi, 01 sep 21, 12:32:19, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian > > > users, and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. > > > > > > Some guidelines which may help explain how the list works: > > > > > > * The language on this mailing list is English. There may be > > > other mailing lists that are language-specific for example > > > debian-user-french > > > > It might be good advertising to also mention other languages here, > > e.g go through the list of languages in alphabetic order, or > > something like that ;) > > Would a link to https://lists.debian.org/users.html suffice? > I think we can assume that Debian users will be able to recognise > the name of their own language in English. > > Cheers, > David. > Very good -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468
Re: Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 20:12:06 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 01 sep 21, 12:32:19, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users, > > and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. > > > > Some guidelines which may help explain how the list works: > > > > * The language on this mailing list is English. There may be other > > mailing lists that are language-specific for example > > debian-user-french > > It might be good advertising to also mention other languages here, > e.g go through the list of languages in alphabetic order, or > something like that ;) > > Kind regards, > Andrei Or supply the link to the list of alternate languages - to save having to check/update the template email every month -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468
Re: Install Debian 10 amd64 onto USB flash drive with and for Macintosh
On 1/9/21 10:39, David Christensen wrote: If I now power up the machine with the buster-mac USB flash drive installed and hold the Option key, I see the MacBook firmware disk window showing the internal SSD only; the target USB flash drive with the Debian instance is not shown. David I'ts been at least a decade since I did this, but I recall aomething called rEFInd I had to install to help the process. There is also a boot option to hold another key to specify which alternate storeage device you wanted to boot. c was CD - the only device I used. Maybe u will get you to your USB. My other suggestion: is there a boot flag on the USB somewhere, perhaps the efi partition? -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468
Re: Intel nuc 11 i5 kit 安裝debian後，首次開機就失敗，黑化面左上角遊標一直閃
On 31/8/21 05:09, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Console font can be configured with dpkg-reconfigure console-setup Thanks Andrei Frankly, I was almost up to asking this myself. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468
Re: Intel nuc 11 i5 kit 安裝debian後，首次開機就失敗，黑化面左上角遊標一直閃
On 31/8/21 05:09, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Console font can be configured with dpkg-reconfigure console-setup Follow up from:Is there a way to make larger options available, please? and chose VGA in screen 3 (rather than fixed) and got three lager options; and the result was immediate, including the output from the process -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468
Re: Intel nuc 11 i5 kit 安裝debian後，首次開機就失敗，黑化面左上角遊標一直閃
On 31/8/21 05:09, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Console font can be configured with dpkg-reconfigure console-setup Exit and log in again My result was very marginal improvement. 8x18 is the largest I was offered. Is there a way to make larger options available, please? -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468
Re: CUPS permissions
On 25/8/21 22:40, Peter Ehlert wrote: CUPS permissions when I go to http://localhost:631/admin the dashboard is displayed as expected. Manage Printers does display my MFCL3770CDW and I am (apparently) able to manage and edit the settings. however Add Printer gives> Unable to add printer: Forbidden is this normal behavior? I do want to add another printer Have you (username) joined lpadmin (group)? -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468
Re: Gnome extensions
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021, 10:58 Georgios wrote: > Hi! > I upgraded from debian 10 to debian 11 today and I noticed that a gnome > extension I really liked dont work on the latest gnome. > George, See: https://github.com/passingthru67/workspaces-to-dock - Keith
HP plat fair with drivers?
On 11/8/21 00:14, Nicolas George wrote: Based on past experience, I am favoring HP, because AFAIK they mostly play fair about Libre drivers Good afternoon I'd like to agree that HP plays fair with drivers. A friend bought a HP laptop last year. His favoured distro is Mint(bunt) which I have found provided good support for ALL wifi. But he had to buy a plug-in USB dongle wifi. Admittedly, we haven't been able to meet face to face long enough to try harder with him. I suggested he try a new Mint Edge complete with kernel 5.11, but he can't find his toy. I reckon my wifi is working much better than ever with the 5.11 kernel I sat listening to Keith Packard at linux.conf.au 2016, quite impressed with his support for OSS in general. Pity about this wifi card in his laptop. And no, I don't know model details. It was pretty cheap. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com
Re: percent char '%' in sudoers file
On Tue, 10 Aug 2021 08:57:46 +0200 wrote: > What I'm not sure is whether the whitespace between the '%' and > the 'sudo' is relevant. My /etc/sudoers hasn't that. Mine is the same - no space = %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL Best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
Re: Changing subjects, forums and things. Drive Debian
On 7/8/21 17:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Then: why didn't*you* change the Subject: line in your reply? Your topic changed radically, so... please do Only because there was something of a who-ha when people do change topics in stead of starting afresh. Next time. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468
Re: [OFFTPIC] How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian
On 7/8/21 16:25, deloptes wrote: I can give no evidence but chances are that Gunnar Gervin, Rishi and roa moshin (non-limitative list) are the same Good afternoon All Should I change to subject? I've been mulling over this situation as I wondered along our river. I recall a discussion maybe 3 years ago, where somebody put a proposal to move the lists to a what sounded like a forum-style. my only comment was that I'm not good at going to fora to answer questions - even to look for answers to my own questions a couple of times. I've decided that perhaps an on-line forum may be the best way to deal with people who appear to repeatedly ask incomplete questions. I mean, if the question isn't in your inbox begging for an answer, it may be easier to ignore the bait? As several have said, a good subject line is the key to getting a response. On the odd occasion I go looking at a forum, I am fussy which topics I open. Some I clearly won't know the answer; some are not inviting enough to tempt me. I find it harder to flick email as easily as I skip a forum topic. So, maybe half a vote for a forum for we general users. -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian
On 7/8/21 02:34, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Maybe ask on a Fedora mailing list / support group / stack overflow ? In reality, perhaps we should have left this thread here? -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian
On 7/8/21 08:58, Greg Wooledge wrote: Not "you're wrong", but "you can't prove it". To me, that's a tacit ADMISSION of guilt. Ah I see another avid watcher of Police drama speaking here -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468
Re: HOW's lost @ $ €
On 4/8/21 20:35, Gunnar Gervin wrote: Seems to me this old Mac can't boot from usb, This link https://www.uubyte.com/boot-mac-from-usb.html and this https://recoverit.wondershare.com/mac-tips/boot-from-usb-drive-mac.html say hold the option key from power on; as well as detailed info about creating a bootable usb -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com 0447 667 468
