Re: debian-advocacy?
Anders Wegge Keller we...@wegge.dk: On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 17:33:55 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: This to one of our best and most measured contributors. It's enough to make one weep. He could have been the pope. His attitude is part of the problem, not the I didn't think that at all. I do think your attitude is. I thought your reply to him was damned insulting. WTF do you think you are telling him (anyone) off like that? I do not want to hear from someone acting out of a misplaced sense of loyalty. I want someone who actually is capable of seeing why elitism isn't going to save Debian in this case, to come forward, and create a place where the issue can be hashed out. Seen this? https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd btw, I've no sticks in this fire. About all I know about this controversy is Linus saying (paraphrased) he's got no real problem with it and perhaps some things stick around due to that being the way it's always been done. This may or may not be one of them, I don't know. Note, you can't expect to change anyone's opinion by insulting them. I know that doesn't work on me, at least. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)echo f.xrry...@znvy.pbz | perl -pe 'y/a-z/n-za-m/' - - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/m1k9p6$fbr$1...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: debian-advocacy?
Curt cu...@free.fr: Given the number of retarded posts we've seen in the last couple of weeks, you might think things would be cooled off by now, but no. This's DU. This sort of thing is expected, even welcomed. People expressing passionate opinions wrt their choice of software? Great! Consider the alternative (Crickets ...). I often wonder if the old saw, Making popcorn! was invented here. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)echo f.xrry...@znvy.pbz | perl -pe 'y/a-z/n-za-m/' - - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/m1kb09$i10$1...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: For Help!
Aijun Xuan aijun_x...@yahoo.ca: ---485831647-466411508-1354984718=:50704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello, Debian: First of all, I would like appreciate what Debian had offered to us! I would thank GUN very much! I am a new user. I just set up Debian in my desktop computer. I have a problem. I can use the internet browser in Gnom when I am in Debian's main page. But I can not browse any other pages like yahoo, google etc. I know I am aware of Linux very little. Please help me out if you have time! I suggest you spend time poring over the contents of wiki.debian.org. The answers you wish are all there. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) - - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kf28uv$5oi$2...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: Help needed
BALAJI :) balaji.p...@gmail.com: I am using Debian Lenny, kernel version: 2.6.26-1-686. I am very new to linux. Can you please let me know the steps for backing up my linux PC (maybe to a CD) and later restoring from it when required. Also let me know if I can install any Open source S/W that can do the above task (something like scheduled backup). There are lots of options available. I make sure I use partitions correctly, then wrote a shell script that wraps afio (cpio clone) using bzip compression backing up each ptn, then creates an .iso from them all with genisoimage. tar works too. Then there's GUI type backup programs (ask someone else about them). Then I use wodim to burn the result to CD. This's worked for about a decade so far. Never lost anything. Restore ==: - afio -Z -P bzip2 -v -i /cdrom_mount_point/name_of_afio_archive_file -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ilu67a$3h8$1...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: which version for intel chipset 64bit
Jerome BENOIT g62993...@rezozer.net: On 08/02/11 11:30, hamed hosseini wrote: * amd64 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/amd64/iso-dvd/ * armel http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/armel/iso-dvd/ * kfreebsd-i386 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/kfreebsd-i386/iso-dvd/ * kfreebsd-amd64 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/kfreebsd-amd64/iso-dvd/ * i386 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/i386/iso-dvd/ * ia64 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/ia64/iso-dvd/ * mips http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/mips/iso-dvd/ * mipsel http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/mipsel/iso-dvd/ * powerpc http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/powerpc/iso-dvd/ * sparc http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/sparc/iso-dvd/ * s390 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/s390/iso-dvd/ * source http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/source/iso-dvd/ * multi-arch http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/multi-arch/iso-dvd/ which version for intel chipset 64bit? amd64 Allow me to point out all the ways my 64 bit (Turion) HP Pavilion dv4 laptop is failing me. Current CPU temp 82 C! I rest my case. Grr. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/iloqi4$7gl$1...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: Postfix SASL SMTP AUTH help, please. [re-post from comp.mail.misc]
s. keeling keel...@nucleus.com: [I asked this in cmm, but see no help there yet. I'm trying to get this: http://postfix.state-of-mind.de/patrick.koetter/smtpauth/smtp_auth_mailservers.html working on Debian Lenny.] Camaleon, Darac, Osamu, Bob, thanks. All good suggestions, lots of reading to do. Gimme a minute; will report back. I appreciate your input. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/iek7ua$f1...@speranza.aioe.org
Postfix SASL SMTP AUTH help, please. [re-post from comp.mail.misc]
[I asked this in cmm, but see no help there yet. I'm trying to get this: http://postfix.state-of-mind.de/patrick.koetter/smtpauth/smtp_auth_mailservers.html working on Debian Lenny.] Background: I run fetchmail in a script wrapper called by my user crontab. Changing the interval at which the cronjob runs to 10 min. instead of every five minutes broke the implied POP before SMTP authorization. Apparently, my ISP's SMTP times out PbS authorization fairly quickly. I'd prefer to have SASL SMTP AUTH working instead of relying on PbS. Essentially, this means placing my ISP username and password in /etc/posfix/sasl_passwd: [smtp.nucleus.com]:366 keeling:XXX then adding: smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd smtp_sasl_security_options = to /etc/postfix/main.cf, followed by: postmap hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd postfix reload and (for the heck of it): /etc/init.d/postfix restart It had no effect. Changing the crontab fetchmail wrapper interval back to 5 min. lets it work, but I'd rather smtpd not be dependent on how often a user cronjob runs. What am I missing, or how do I get SASL SMTP AUTH working? BTW, I'm trying to get this question to postfix-users, but that's been somewhat difficult with a broken mail system (though I am now gaining on it). Thanks. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) Please don't Cc: me. - - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101215013923.ga12...@nucleus.com
Re: how to generate pi in c
ow...@netptc.net ow...@netptc.net:
GIYF
Who?
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~rc/classes/soft_dev/C_simple_ex.html
(0) phreaque /home/keeling_ time pi 20
# of trials= 20 , estimate of pi is 3.14158
real4m41.812s
user4m29.736s
sys 0m0.055s
Thanks. Fun to play with. Around 2 billion is where it maxes out
both my AMD-64 and PIV-2.4GHz Pentium. A couple of modifications
allow it to accept a command line parameter instead of asking for
iterations:
-
/* ~/devl/kr/src/pi.c20Nov2010*/
/**/
/* Program to compute Pi using Monte Carlo methods*/
/**/
/* gcc -o $HOME/bin/pi $HOME/devl/kr/src/pi.c -lm -Wall */
/**/
/* http://www.dartmouth.edu/~rc/classes/soft_dev/C_simple_ex.html */
#include stdlib.h
#include stdio.h
#include math.h
#include string.h
#define SEED 35791246
int main( int argc, char *argv[] ) {
int niter=0;
double x, y;
int i, count=0; /* # of points in the 1st quadrant of unit circle */
double z;
double pi;
if( argc 1 ) {
sscanf( argv[ 1 ], %d, niter);
} else {
printf( Enter the number of iterations used to estimate pi: );
scanf( %d, niter );
}
/* initialize random numbers */
srand( SEED );
count=0;
for ( i=0; i niter; i++ ) {
x = ( double ) rand()/RAND_MAX;
y = ( double ) rand()/RAND_MAX;
z = x*x+y*y;
if( z = 1 ) count++;
}
pi=( double ) count / niter * 4;
printf( # of trials= %d , estimate of pi is %g \n, niter, pi );
}
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Re: Size of minimal Debian installation
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com: Jason Hsu, embedded engineer, Linux user wrote: I have a minimal Debian installation ... You might be interested in reading through a discussion that is happening right now on debian-devel: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/10/threads.html#00310 http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/10/msg00310.html After ca. 15 a. of Debian: /2 Gb swap total RAM /home4 Gb /usr 6 Gb /var 3 Gb /scratch ... /scratch/user/... That's the most comfortable layout I've come up with (Debian specific). Handle the OS and minimal user usage, then show them where else space is. On a single box, that is. Servers no. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ib5d2h$t9...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: how to umount a usb flash drive through cli as a normal user
Jason Heeris jason.hee...@gmail.com:
On 11 October 2010 23:52, vishnu vardhan vishnuvardhan.li...@gmail.com
wrote:
[a] start mc and search for jet under /dev/disk/by-id folder and note down
the name, for e.g. sdb1
This is a bit tangential, but do you know about the pmount-hal
[...]
works out some other mount flags for you. Keep in mind I use Squeeze,
not Lenny, so if it's not there, that's why.
Yes, it's also in lenny.
I would think that you can do aptitude/apt-get search -v $blah where $blah
== {lenny,squeeze,sid,stable,...} or sumfin, but looking at the
manpage's his problem, not yours or mine. :-)
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Re: --set-selections - help needed to use this
Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com: Thanks, Camaleón. I get nervous when the computer I am working on does not belong to me!! Prudent thinking. Especially when you're logged in as root (walking around with lit sticks of dynamite in each hand). Plan. Research. Backups! Try plan on a disposable sandbox. Rinse, repeat, ... -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i93526$ag...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: --set-selections - help needed to use this
Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com: I think I'll give it one more try using your link and any tips other people have given me by then, and if I still can't do it I'll just install normally. No offense meant, but wrong attitude. I've been saying this since ca. '97: try again. The more installs you try, the more you learn about the box and the more you know of what you need to know. You learn more about the installer and its capabilities, and what software you want/like/dislike. FFS, it's fun doing it, because you KNOW it's eventually going to work, no matter how bleeding edge is your hardware. Or, at least that's been my experience. Have fun with it man. Bang your head on the wall until it falls over! Worst case, burn a backup first, then re-install. Sheesh. :-) -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i935ke$ba...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: WiFi: nm-applet, nm-editor, replace NetworkManager
Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net: Wicd from the repos. Much more informative than nm. I can attest to that. I found wicd difficult to turn off the other day (until I looked for /etc/default/wicd). Then again, Win* guy next door, now running linux, took to nm with no problem, way before I knew anything about this !...@#$. [I don't use wifi; all I know about it is because *others* need help with it. Damn, there's too many damned acronyms in that space]. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i937ch$eb...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: X radeon flash youtube problem
Richard Hector rich...@walnut.gen.nz: I recently caved and installed flashplugin-nonfree on my squeeze system (once the 64-bit player was re-released). However, when I watch some (not all) youtube videos, the screens (2) first go black, then (possibly triggered by switching to a text console), get corrupted and start flashing. I see this kind of thing in syslog: Oct 4 21:22:01 zircon kernel: [ 9738.260100] [drm:radeon_fence_wait] *ERROR* fence(880212632700:0x00011A27) 508ms timeout going to reset GPU No comment; over my head. .. so I think the flashing is probably when it resets the GPU. Plausible. This (because everybody loves cats) is an example video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KswnjMa-MQ Just to say, that plays fine non-maximized on my HP Pavilion, AMD-64 Turion II (?). It's only using %50 cpu according to gkrellm. That's fairly gentle from what I've encountered. I have a: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV730XT [Radeon HD 4670] with the open source radeon driver. 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS780M/RS780MN [Radeon HD 3200 Graphics] I'm running 64-bit on an: model name : AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor model name : AMD Turion(tm) X2 Dual-Core Mobile RM-72 I've seen a few things with similar log messages from searching, but none very recent, and none quite the same. Just curious, but what does sensors (as root) say? Methinks AMD kernel/driver support is behind other cpu/gpu support. Just a hunch. I feel I should file a bug somewhere, but I'm not sure where's appropriate, especially when running proprietary software - though What proprietary software? I thought you were trying to install squeeze? no software should be able to screw up my system that badly. Um, no, just do more research next time. Boot it up with lots of live CDs and see what works and why it works. Persistence pays. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i8iugs$fs...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: Staples Relay (tm) 4 Gb USB sticks - slow or normal (lenny)?
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 00:15:42 +, s. keeling wrote: Is it just that usb's slow, or is the box doing it wrong? Is it my preference for ext2? I've tried w both usb hubs and directly into Did you run any read/write speed tests on the flash device? No, I've just been observing the situation over months (I get by with monthly backups :-). Googling around, I've found this article you may find interesting: Increase USB Flash Drive Write Speed http://linux-howto-guide.blogspot.com/2009/10/increase-usb-flash-drive-write-speed.html Thanks, it looks interesting. Hard to believe hdparm is the answer to silicon snailishness ... I'll report back. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i88d73$2p...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: Staples Relay (tm) 4 Gb USB sticks - slow or normal (lenny)?
Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr: Dne, 01. 10. 2010 10:35:09 je Camaleón napisal(a): On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 00:15:42 +, s. keeling wrote: [snip] To avoid wild guesses, you could test your USB key on another machine, monitoring its average read/write speed there; that way, you'd at least know who's to blame (your computer or your USB key). Maybe you just Yeah, I'll try that, thanks. I could even boot into (yuck) Vista and see what it does there. have wrong USB settings in your BIOS? Such as, USB set to v1.1 instead of v2.0, or perhaps USB IRQ disabled ...? Where the !...@#$ do you guys get these 21st Century BIOSes?!? :-( HP laptops are not so augmented. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i88dhh$36...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: cpufreq not loaded in amd64?
s. keeling keel...@nucleus.com: Damon L. Chesser da...@damtek.com: error. My bios had Cool and Quite turned off. I did not catch that, I was looking for some other bios settings. I really am not a big fan Makes me wanna reboot and hunt around for Cool and Quiet. No such animal on an HP dv4 laptop. I usually have this on 525 MHz using ondemand governor. Damned near every flashy news story or youtube video spikes cpu to ca. 90%. I've never noted it ramping up cpu Mhz to handle the extra load, but then, I don't know what either it or I am doing here. Sucks. Anybody know what I can do about this? --- System Events =-=-=-=-=-=-= Oct 2 16:02:04 infidel cpufreqd: cpufreqd_set_profile : Couldn't set profile Performance Low set for cpu0 (210-210-performance) Oct 2 16:02:04 infidel cpufreqd: cpufreqd_loop: Cannot set policy, Rule unchanged (AC Rule). Oct 2 16:14:08 infidel cpufreqd: cpufreqd_set_profile : Couldn't set profile Performance Low set for cpu0 (210-210-performance) Oct 2 16:14:08 infidel cpufreqd: cpufreqd_loop: Cannot set policy, Rule unchanged (AC Rule). Oct 2 16:14:10 infidel cpufreqd: cpufreqd_set_profile : Couldn't set profile Performance Low set for cpu0 (210-210-performance) Oct 2 16:14:10 infidel cpufreqd: cpufreqd_loop: Cannot set policy, Rule unchanged (AC Rule). Oct 2 16:14:12 infidel cpufreqd: cpufreqd_set_profile : Couldn't set profile Performance Low set for cpu0 (210-210-performance) Oct 2 16:14:12 infidel cpufreqd: cpufreqd_loop: Cannot set policy, Rule unchanged (AC Rule). Oct 2 16:14:50 infidel cpufreqd: cpufreqd_set_profile : Couldn't set profile Performance Low set for cpu0 (210-210-performance) Oct 2 16:14:50 infidel cpufreqd: cpufreqd_loop: Cannot set policy, Rule unchanged (AC Rule). ... --- -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i88dt2$36...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: A simple GUI volume control tool for fluxbox
Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt: If you just want volume control, i use gkrellm's volume plugin. Does That's excellent! Thanks! -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i88gl3$84...@speranza.aioe.org
Staples Relay (tm) 4 Gb USB sticks - slow or normal (lenny)?
I keep one copy of my latest backup on usb sticks that I keep in my pack. Yesterday, I recreated it. It's an ext2 ptn: /dev/sdb1 on /media/usb0 type ext2 (rw,noexec,nodev,sync,noatime) That happens when I plug it in (udev?). drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 2009-05-20 22:55 /media/sdb1/ I plugged it in at 17:13, started the copy minutes later, and it took until 03:43 to finish, which is pretty sucky. CD copies take like ten minutes. (0) infidel /home/keeling_ du -sm /scratch/afio/ 637 /scratch/afio/ Is it just that usb's slow, or is the box doing it wrong? Is it my preference for ext2? I've tried w both usb hubs and directly into laptop; same, same. This's on a HP Pavilion dv4 AMD-64. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i8397e$uc...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: cpufreq not loaded in amd64?
Damon L. Chesser da...@damtek.com: error. My bios had Cool and Quite turned off. I did not catch that, I was looking for some other bios settings. I really am not a big fan Makes me wanna reboot and hunt around for Cool and Quiet. I usually have this on 525 MHz using ondemand governor. Damned near every flashy news story or youtube video spikes cpu to ca. 90%. I've never noted it ramping up cpu Mhz to handle the extra load, but then, I don't know what either it or I am doing here. Sucks. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i83a3t$10...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: I don't understand why bug reporting bothers you
T o n g mlist4sunt...@yahoo.com: On Mon, 06 Sep 2010 01:20:00 +, s. keeling wrote: Damn, you're prolific. How anyone can come up with as many problems to post about as you do, I'll never understand. Sorry, that was unkind. It was just the impression I felt at the time after so long watching. This's also about nvidia. Don't buy proprietary s...@#$, and you won't run into as many problems. Please don't make any assumptions. It's built in the MOBO, OK? You don't bother to check what mobo supplies before you buy it? I'm running AMD-64+AMD/ATI video because I hunted for a box that supplied them. It wasn't easy finding it. Grml is for the bleeding edge idiots (cf. Gentoo), so you really ought to be on your own simply for trying it. What's wrong with you? Don't you know that Debian is community driven? Re-read. Grml themselves *by design* expect you to know what you're doing if you're going to run grml. That said, their mailinglist is very helpful, even kind to non-experts from what I've seen, and far more helpful wrt grml than d-u would be. Say hi to Mika. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i80kas$8f...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: cpufreq not loaded in amd64?
Damon L. Chesser da...@damtek.com: For some reason, I don't have cpufreq scaling enabled: Well that's pretty damned sad. :-P I really don't get cpufreq* myself. Methinks it's far too young software. da...@dam-main:~$ sudo powernowd -d PowerNow Daemon v1.00, (c) 2003-2008 John Clemens /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/affected_cpus: No such file or directory err=2Found 2 scalable units: -- 1 'CPU' per scalable unit /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq: No such file or directory [snip] da...@dam-main:~$ sudo lsmod |grep cpufreq cpufreq_stats 2659 0 cpufreq_userspace 1992 0 cpufreq_conservative 5162 0 cpufreq_powersave902 0 da...@dam-main:~$ sudo lsmod |grep powernow da...@dam-main:~$ Oops, no powernow-k* listed. r...@dam-main:/home/damon# modprobe powernow-k8 FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k8 (/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko): No such device dmesg |grep cpu -i shows (only in part) [ 18.891118] powernow-k8: Found 1 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ processors (2 cpu cores) (version 2.20.00) so after googling, I see this problem pop up, but the newest one is at least a year old and I don't see a solution. (0) infidel /home/keeling_ uname -a Linux infidel 2.6.32-bpo.5-amd64 #1 SMP Fri Jun 11 23:33:19 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux (0) infidel /home/keeling_ lsmod | grep power cpufreq_powersave902 0 powernow_k810978 0 processor 30135 1 powernow_k8 What do I need to do? Damned good question. What do lm-sensors do there? (0) [root] infidel /root_ sensors acpitz-virtual-0 Adapter: Virtual device temp1: +74.0°C (crit = +105.0°C) My sandbox is far more expressive: (0) infidel /home/keeling_ ssh phreaque sensors emc6d100-i2c-0-2e Adapter: SMBus I801 adapter at fc00 in0: +0.00 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +3.32 V) ALARM in1: +1.50 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +2.99 V) in2: +3.27 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +4.38 V) in3: +5.08 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +6.64 V) in4:+12.00 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +15.94 V) in5: +0.00 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +4.38 V) in6: +0.02 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +1.99 V) in7: +0.00 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +2.39 V) fan1: 1480 RPM (min =0 RPM) fan2: 0 RPM (min =0 RPM) fan3: 0 RPM (min =0 RPM) fan4: 0 RPM (min =0 RPM) temp1:+0.0°C (low = -127.0°C, high = +127.0°C) temp2: +40.0°C (low = -127.0°C, high = +127.0°C) temp3: +47.0°C (low = -127.0°C, high = +127.0°C) cpu0_vid: +1.525 V cat /etc/debian_version squeeze/sid 5.0.6 Lenny. Que pasa mon? :-) -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i817hh$tk...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: Can start X once but no more
T o n g mlist4sunt...@yahoo.com: Following up with http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/389399 DR. I have exactly the same symptom: Damn, you're prolific. How anyone can come up with as many problems to post about as you do, I'll never understand. $ uname -rm 2.6.33-grml64 x86_64 That's Grml. Why aren't you asking Grml?! This's also about nvidia. Don't buy proprietary s...@#$, and you won't run into as many problems. Grml is for the bleeding edge idiots (cf. Gentoo), so you really ought to be on your own simply for trying it. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i61fk0$dh...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: .xsession kills X server with sqeeze/fluxbox
Javier Vasquez j.e.vasque...@gmail.com:
On 9/5/10, brownh bro...@historicalmaterialism.info wrote:
I'm used to using an .xsession file in ~/
Me too.
I use .xinitrc, and start X from CLI (ssh-agent startx). No [XKG]dm.
. But I find that when I have sqeeze installed with fluxbox, the
server crashes if there is an xsession file present, even if it is
empty.
Weird.
Perhaps the contents of your ~/.xsession. I have it on unstable with
no problem at all:
+++
% cat .xsession
#!/bin/sh
killall xautolock
xautolock
killall autocutsel
autocutsel
killall conky
conky
export XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.Xauthority
export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome
exec startfluxbox
+++
Not using a graphical login is different from using one, in my
experience. No XDGdm means ~/.xinitrc, so here's my ~/.xinitrc:
-
#!/bin/sh
#
#
# startx only.
#
# 7Nov2005 - sbk. not used by [gkwx]dm? This finally
# works brilliantly.
#
# Desired window/session manager.
#
unset XSTARTUP
XSTARTUP=/usr/bin/startfluxbox
if [ -f /etc/X11/Xresources/xbase-clients ]; then
# no longer exists in etch
xrdb -merge /etc/X11/Xresources/xbase-clients
fi
if [ -f /etc/X11/Xresources/xfree86-common ]; then
# trivial; *customization: -color
xrdb -merge /etc/X11/Xresources/x11-common
fi
userresources=$HOME/.Xresources
if [ -e $userresources ]; then
xrdb -merge $userresources
fi
usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap
if [ -e $usermodmap ]; then
xmodmap $usermodmap
else
# fix the mouse at the least (for LEFT HANDERS).
#
/usr/bin/X11/xmodmap -e pointer = 3 2 1 # 4 5 6 7 8 9
fi
# Turn off screen blanking.
#
xset s off
# What's the X Window startup file's (me) name?
#
export XSTART=${0}
env ~/.xenv
# This makes X work for root su logins.
#
if [ -z $XAUTHORITY ]; then
XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.Xauthority
export XAUTHORITY
fi
# This starts x-window/session-manager program (untested).
#
if [ -z $XSTARTUP ]; then
if [ -x /usr/bin/x-session-manager ]; then
XSTARTUP=x-session-manager
elif [ -x /usr/bin/x-window-manager ]; then
XSTARTUP=x-window-manager
elif [ -x /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator ]; then
XSTARTUP=x-terminal-emulator
else
/usr/bin/fluxbox
fi
fi
# Programs I want running when X runs.
#
xclients=$HOME/.Xclients
if [ -e $xclients ]; then
source $xclients
fi
# if [ $XSTARTUP = /usr/bin/fluxbox ]; then
if [ $XSTARTUP = /usr/bin/startfluxbox ]; then
# /usr/bin/feh --bg-center /home/keeling/grf/flowers1600.jpg
/usr/bin/feh --bg-center /home/keeling/grf/debian049_1600.jpg
# /usr/bin/feh --bg-center /home/keeling/grf/bluedisc.bmp
fi
# does this work? Yes, perfectly.
#
# don't ssh-agent $XSTARTUP! alias sta == ssh-agent startx
#
$XSTARTUP
# -
# Obsoleted by ssh-agent. Use su (no -) to use keeling's
# XAUTHORITY environment variable to enable root owned X based
# programs (xconsole).
#
# xhost +localhost # Don't! use xauth instead:
#
# xauth list # if you already have keys, skip next.
# xauth generate . # perform if you have no auth file.
# xauth nextract username.xa $DISPLAY # should be the only step needed.
#
# # login to other account/machine.
#
# export DISPLAY=$HOSTIP:0.0
# xauth nmerge ~username/username.xa # now you can use keeling's auth.
# -
-
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Re: What is Recommend CLI Package Manager Tool for Newb?
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net: Is there a description or screenshot of it somewhere? Can I easily engage it from the command-line? I'd like to play with it and see if it is as useful as the aptitude one. See the -s switch, just like aptitude. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i5c1r6$ob...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude
Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:13:26PM +, s. keeling wrote: T o n g mlist4sunt...@yahoo.com: I used to use either apt-get or aptitude to install packages. Is it OK to do so? Joey Hess wrote a long critique in here a couple of years ago, saying essentially yes. aptitude (I thimk) logs more of its actions than Old information may not be valiad for new apt-get :-) You may see change in release note: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=411280 Um, Old information? Yours was from sarge -- etch! 2.6.8 kernel! I've my own complaints about pkg managers (*everything* drags in CUPS!), but I still think Joey understands this stuff better than we ever will. Perhaps he'll deign to update his assessment of the situation. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i5734a$rb...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: Debian updates worth to follow as a normal user
Joe j...@jretrading.com: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: s. keeling wrote: T o n g mlist4sunt...@yahoo.com: Where is the recommended place to read about Debian updates that would affect end users? I think it's about this time that some jerk pipes up and says production machines serving users should be running stable, the raison d'etre of debian. Sorry. Here you go! Production machines serving users should be running stable! Indeed so, but for that to happen, a lot of people must do production-type work on sid and testing. How else do the bugs get reported? Users don't know how to report bugs. Hell, I often fsck it up, and I've been running Linux since '93. What would probably help in that process would be some kind of organised rollback of the last batch of updates, without having to do a full backup-restore of the whole OS. Restore Points, anyone? Buy a Mac. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i573lc$sa...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: Mailing list protocol
Tixy debianu...@tixy.myzen.co.uk: On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 05:46 -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: On 08/26/2010 05:37 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: noela...@gmail.com : In Kmail, and probably some other MUAs, you can select the text first and then hit reply, and only the selected section will be quoted. Yep. Pan (a nntp newsreader) has such option. So does Claws-mail. As does Icedove/Thunderbird. And Evolution :-) slrn beats 'em all. Bravo, we can subscribe to a mailing list and read it with a newsreader. Yay. Real newsreaders and mail user agents don't fsck up the quoting (above fixed manually :-). -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i574fj$tl...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: Lockups in Xorg with Radeon HD 3450 and different drivers
Nick Lidakis nlida...@verizon.net: On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 02:13:08AM +0200, Thomas Amm wrote: Am 24.06.2010 20:06, schrieb Nick Lidakis: I figured, these days, getting to a 2d desktop with a 2 year old video card would not cause a machine to lock hard. Although,I am on unstable. You pays your money and you takes your chances... while avoiding cairo tured out to be the least of all evils. No 3d anything. startx from command line. Tried fluxbox? I've been fighting with new distros and old machines lately. Lenny + fluxbox and Mint + fluxbox work really nicely in comparison to (eg.) ELive. This's on both desktop and laptops, P-IV 2.4 Ghz and Celeron 2 GHz. Find 'em on distrowatch.com -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i547l1$m6...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude
T o n g mlist4sunt...@yahoo.com: I used to use either apt-get or aptitude to install packages. Is it OK to do so? I've not read your link. Joey Hess wrote a long critique in here a couple of years ago, saying essentially yes. aptitude (I thimk) logs more of its actions than does apt-get, but other than that, they're just wrappers that call dpkg. I think. Read Joey's post, it's definitive. I read [1] that it is not a good idea. [1] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/mixing-apt-*-and-aptitude-nok-828408/ -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i5482m$mo...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: Debian updates worth to follow as a normal user
T o n g mlist4sunt...@yahoo.com: Where is the recommended place to read about Debian updates that would affect end users? For example, the recent massive update on the sid repo side, I know it is I think it's about this time that some jerk pipes up and says production machines serving users should be running stable, the raison d'etre of debian. Sorry. I watch debian-mentors for interesting news. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i548h4$nl...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: Transmitting a webcam's flux to the Internet: how?
Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be: Many cities/special places, etc., have `live' webcams which allow Internet users to see these places `live.' This is often achieved thanks to hosting websites, etc. I'm here asking myself how I could, from a device (not necessarily a traditional computer), send the webcam flux to the Internet. Say that I can capture the flux, in a given format, this flux being $GOOGLE laptop snoop # for your value of GOOGLE -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i4c7kp$ev...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: meta-question
Louis Hinman sl...@rcn.com: I don't see an administrator to address this question to, so please forgive me for addressing it to all and sundry: Along with the other excellent advice others have suggested, subscribe to whitel...@lists.debian.org, with all its resulting goodness. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i4c8od$i6...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: setting sensor limits fails
António PT acmps...@gmail.com: 2010/2/1 Nima Azarbayjany i.adore.deb...@gmail.com On a recent install of Squeeze I get a message that setting sensor limits fails. I am wondering whether this can be a threat to the hardware and if there are any workarounds for this issue. I am running the amd64 2.6.32 kernel from testing on my HP Pavilion dv5 laptop. Mine's a dv4. 2.6.30-bpo.1-amd64 I also have the same hardware as you and the same kernel in amd64. Is this relative to lm_sensors? I never got them to work... (0) infidel /home/keeling_ sensors acpitz-virtual-0 Adapter: Virtual device temp1: +66.0�C (crit = +105.0�C) (0) infidel /home/keeling_ lsmod | grep power cpufreq_powersave 1792 0 powernow_k814036 0 processor 40048 1 powernow_k8 I don't think this should be a threat to your laptop, the sensors only read temperature (and other data) they don't interfere with the working of the CPU, hard drive or other components. I think you have no reasons to worry. They sure help here, otherwise the fan makes it sound like my Sun U30. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b8c45e...@news.
Re: How to enforce use of dhcpcd instead of dhclient in debian/testing?
wzab w...@ise.pw.edu.pl: I have a problem with wireless networking on my laptop (uses iwl3945 wireless). When dhclient3 is used to obtain IP address via DHCP, the connection is unstable. Especially when I move my laptop to another location and switch to another network, the IP is not obtained at all or connection is established only for a very short time. I was able to fix it by uninstalling the dhcp3-client package. In this case the dhcpcd is used for obtaining IP, which works flawlessly. Unfortunately dhcp3-client is suggested by different packages, so when I update my system it often gets reinstalled unless I explicitly deselect it. That's really tiring. File a bug report. Use reportbug. The maintainer should get back to you with good/informative explanations (in my experience). I see this as another manifestation of the CUPS vs. lp* problem; everything suggests (suggested?) CUPS, when any printer daemon should be recognized as acceptable alternatives. Just as multiple potential MTAs are acceptable. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b8c555...@news.
Re: setting sensor limits fails
Nima Azarbayjany i.adore.deb...@gmail.com: On a recent install of Squeeze I get a message that setting sensor limits fails. I am wondering whether this can be a threat to the hardware and if Is lm-sensors installed? cpufreqd? powernow_k8 kernel module? there are any workarounds for this issue. I am running the amd64 2.6.32 kernel from testing on my HP Pavilion dv5 laptop. I'm Lenny here with: Linux infidel 2.6.30-bpo.1-amd64 #1 SMP Wed Aug 5 23:18:59 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux Stock, not compiled from source. This is an HP dv4, AMD 64. 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 9602 00:04.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 0) 00:05.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 1) 00:06.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 2) 00:07.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 3) 00:11.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 SATA Controller [AHCI mode] 00:12.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI0 Controller 00:12.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700 USB OHCI1 Controller 00:12.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB EHCI Controller 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI0 Controller 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700 USB OHCI1 Controller 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB EHCI Controller 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 3a) 00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 IDE Controller 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) 00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 LPC host controller 00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Mobile K10 [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] HyperTransport Configuration (rev 40) 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 11h [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Mobile K10 [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Mobile K10 [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] Miscellaneous Control 00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Mobile K10 [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] Link Control 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS780M/RS780MN [Radeon HD 3200 Graphics] 01:05.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RS780 Azalia controller 08:00.0 System peripheral: JMicron Technology Corp. SD/MMC Host Controller 08:00.2 SD Host controller: JMicron Technology Corp. Standard SD Host Controller 08:00.3 System peripheral: JMicron Technology Corp. MS Host Controller 08:00.4 System peripheral: JMicron Technology Corp. xD Host Controller 09:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01) 0a:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 02) -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: garbages in man page output
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:13:43 +, T o n g wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:55:07 +, Camaleón wrote:
Or try by appending -d for debugging.
Here's it. What's wrong?
$ LANG=en_US.UTF-8 man -d xrandr
I'm not sure I understand the problem, but in X, try:
LOCALE=utf-8 xman -notopbox -bothshown
I have that in ~/.fluxbox/fluxbox-menu:
[exec] (Xman) {LOCALE=utf-8 xman -notopbox -bothshown}
and it displays manpages with no flaws so far that I've seen (and I
have seen the flaws you mention at CLI man blah). GL.
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Re: dealing with grub2?
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Liviu Andronic wrote:
Could you help to either completely get rid of grub2 or properly
configuring it (to recognise the other two OSs, Windows and Ubuntu)?
For the first part, I've uninstalled grub-pc and reinstalled
grub-legacy, I've run update grub and checked /boot/grub/menu.lst (and
it contains Windows and Ubuntu entries). However, on reboot I only see
the Debian entries. I also installed os-prober, but it doesn't seem to
affect behaviour of update grub.
If you want to give grub2 a chance, and you should, you can install the
package os-prober, which only helps with grub2 and does nothing with
grub-legacy.
I've os-prober installed.
Also with grub2 you have to look for /boot/grub/grub.cfg and not
I have finally seen OBSD in the boot menu, due to manually editting
/boot/menu/grugb.cfg:
menuentry OpenBSD 4.6 {
set root=(hd0,1)
chainloader +1
boot
}
Still doesn't boot, but I've still a bone to pick with OBSD. :-)
How to make that persistent across grub upgrades ...
menu.lst. If os-prober fails to find the other OS, you can add an
entry in /etc/grub.d/40_custom and then run update-grub. Don't edit
grub.cfg because it's overwritten every time grub is updated or a kernel
Doesn't work, sorry. Been there, done that. Still researching ...
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Re: console resolution
tv.deb...@googlemail.com tv.deb...@googlemail.com: s. keeling wrote: Isn't it strange that we now need to `update-grub`, when having to run lilo was such a hardship before? Grumble, mumble, wtf doesn't OpenBSD ever show up in the grub* boot menu, grumble, mumble, ... Grr. Hi grumpy, It's a fair cop. :-| update-grub is only needed when configuration is manually edited, My complaint is neither grub-legacy nor grub2 ever pick up my OBSD install, yet /etc/grub.d/40_custom is there and describes it, and /boot/grub/menu.lst is there to upgrade from. aptitude reinstall $blah never gets OBSD into the boot menu. Never works (not complaining, just reporting; I'll check bugs.debian.org for similar when I've time). Can't comment on OpenBSD, maybe a filesystem compatibility problem ? Debian's fdisk manages it (type a6 OpenBSD). I'll keep banging my head on it. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Warning: Illegal hostnames no longer work
David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il: For ever, I was getting a bootup message that by hostname was illegal. After that, everything, I mean everything, worked with that hostname 100% As of the latest upgrades off Sid, the illegal hostname is no longer accepted by the system and there is then no hostname and many things do not like that at all. Edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts and reboot. KDE has reportedly decided to honour an RFC's specifics. I suspect you run KDE. I can't find the url where I read about it. I don't use kde, btw. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How to grab music from remote cdrom?
Sthu Deus sthu.d...@gmail.com: Thank You for Your time and answer, Camale: Export the CD share via samba or nfs and mount it locally into the target machine where you are going to run the ripper. And let the program doing its work. This is a somewhat annoying problem. You'd think, understanding X Window and sshd, this'd be as simple as pointing vlc at $IP:/mountpoint. I don't want to run either Samba or NFS. I just want $something to read from $IP:/mountpoint. Maybe this means augmenting vlc? May I ask why can't you run the audio extractor in the host machine where the CD unit is physically attached to? :-? The machine has no such a device. :) My DVD is in my laptop. I'd like my sandbox to be able to read from my laptop's dvd drive. vlc's manpage is awfully cryptic. Drat. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: console resolution
Jeffrey Cao jcao.li...@gmail.com: On 2010-01-22, Nima Azarbayjany i.adore.deb...@gmail.com wrote: I have recently installed Squeeze on my laptop and most things seem to work fine right now. I used to add vga=xxx to the kernel parameters line to adjust the console resolution but this is now deprecated as a message printed at the startup says. What should be passed to the kernel instead of, for example, vga=0x361? Let me add that I have upgraded the kernel to 2.6.32 from sid. For the new grub, edit the file /etc/default/grub, add the following line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=vga=xxx And then run 'update-grub' to update /boot/grub/grub.cfg Isn't it strange that we now need to `update-grub`, when having to run lilo was such a hardship before? That does it. I'm going back to lilo. Grumble, mumble, wtf doesn't OpenBSD ever show up in the grub* boot menu, grumble, mumble, ... Grr. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Gnome [Nautilus] debuggers: please reopen bug 358731
Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com:
On 2010-01-11 at 21:27:02 -0500, s. keeling wrote:
I've been running Linux for a long time. I'm pretty sure Linus would
answer, Show us your code! If you've enough energy to complain,
you've enough to help with the fix.
As for Mr. McCormick, I don't know. But please remember that not
everyone who uses Linux is a C programmer. This is not 1991 and Linux
Yes, we can't all be DDs, but we can all run reportbug. We can relate
our experiences, at whatever level of sophistication we may have. I
was a noob once.
However, nautilus failing pointy-clicky stuff? Ptheh. Who frigging
cares? What does nautilus do that {mk|rm}dir, cp, rm, mv, chmod, and
chown can't do?
Bottom line, for Mr. McCormick, you get what you pay for. If it
breaks, you get to keep all the pieces. No DD is your slave, sorry.
However, they'd appreciate your help, I'm sure.
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Re: Gnome [Nautilus] debuggers: please reopen bug 358731
Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca: On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:45:53 + (GMT) s. keeling keel...@nucleus.com wrote: s. keeling keel...@nucleus.com: Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca: How many developers does it take to fix a bug? Apparently too many. Read through Bug 121113. (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121113) You've got to be kidding me. That's what you consider a critical enough bug to work on?!? Aii. Find another way to do it! You're doing it wrong. This isn't Win*. I didn't file the bug or even comment on it. What the he** are you talking about. What makes you think I consider it's critical bug ? Indignantly: How many developers does it take to fix a bug? You started this. I might start something like this for something I consider a showstopper. Nautilus' workings (or not) are hardly in that realm. Were you actually concerned about this, or just trolling for replies? -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: New testing install; no /boot/grub/menu.lst exists.
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com: What is your 40... entry? Generic chainloader +1 stuff: (1a) There is no (hd0,0) in grub2. sda = (hd0,1), etc Ah! This is a most informative/educational reply, thanks. You're welcome. I've a few leads to track down now: sed '%s/hda/sda/g' /boot/grub/menu.lst # or something update-grub # less /boot/grub/grub.cfg I hope that you are sed-ing /etc/grub.d/40_custom to correct your OBSD entry :) That has no /dev/xxx anything in it. Found out after some googling that update-grub does not (yet) recognize the BSDs hence your need for a 40_custom entry. These two do not play well together easily, apparently. update-grub ought to slurp in /boot/grub/menu.lst and create sane grub.cfg; still no OpenBSD seen at grub prompt. I've another avenue to explore from another poster (thanks!), and will report back. Research! :-) [Wow, does slrn look odd all of a sudden. Hope it's not affecting readability.] -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Gnome [Nautilus] debuggers: please reopen bug 358731
s. keeling keel...@nucleus.com: Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca: How many developers does it take to fix a bug? Apparently too many. Read through Bug 121113. (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121113) You've got to be kidding me. That's what you consider a critical enough bug to work on?!? Aii. Find another way to do it! You're doing it wrong. This isn't Win*. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: New testing install; no /boot/grub/menu.lst exists.
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com: What is your 40... entry? Generic chainloader +1 stuff: (1a) There is no (hd0,0) in grub2. sda = (hd0,1), etc Ah! This is a most informative/educational reply, thanks. I really am out of the loop I see. I'm beginning to understand what all the bleeding-edge noobs complain about. grub2 may be beta, but it's been there some time now, yes? I've a few leads to track down now: sed '%s/hda/sda/g' /boot/grub/menu.lst # or something update-grub # less /boot/grub/grub.cfg Fun. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Gnome [Nautilus] debuggers: please reopen bug 358731
Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca: On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 20:57:26 -0500 (EST) Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: On 2010-01-09 at 16:40:22 -0500, Dotan Cohen wrote: Does someone here have the proper permissions to reopen a Gnome bug that was incorrectly marked as dupe? Thanks: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358731 This looks like an upstream bug report, as opposed to a Debian bug report. You'll need to contact the upstream maintainer, explain the circumstances, and request a reopen. How many developers does it take to fix a bug? Apparently too many. Read through Bug 121113. (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121113) It was filed in 2003...7 years ago. The last comment is from November 2009!!! I'm sure many of us noticed this inconsistency in the file selector a long time ago,,but it's still there. I've been running Linux for a long time. I'm pretty sure Linus would answer, Show us your code! If you've enough energy to complain, you've enough to help with the fix. Research, document, debug, lobby, ... I will go read the bug report now, honest, and thanks. I just had to mention this first. Ah, geez, I sooo despise Nautilus. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: New testing install; no /boot/grub/menu.lst exists.
Freeman eve...@worldwidehtml.com: On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 03:30:32AM +, s. keeling wrote: I'm new to testing. I've been running stable on primary box and (eg.) sid on sandbox for years. This is testing is on my sandbox for the first time. I just installed both squeeze(?)/testing and OpenBSD 4.6. How do I add the latter to testing's grub? /boot/grub/menu.lst doesn't exist, and /boot/grub contains stuff I've never seen before. I can create it, but I'm expecting you to tell me it's been moved or renamed or $(debian_gotcha\'d) or something. Additionally, I think you can drop the relevant boot line into /etc/grub.d/custom40 . Or install os-prober and run 40_custom # update-grub No joy. :-( -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: New testing install; no /boot/grub/menu.lst exists.
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com: What is your 40... entry? Generic chainloader +1 stuff: # OpenBSD 4.6 on /dev/hda1 title OpenBSD 4.6 root (hd0,0) savedefault makeactive chainloader +1 Are you loading the ufs module(s)? Never heard of 'em. Will research, thanks. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: New testing install; no /boot/grub/menu.lst exists.
Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr: Dne, 08. 01. 2010 01:32:32 je s. keeling napisal(a): Thanks. That's looking very tempting at the moment. So far, I've not solved it. It would not be unwise to switch to Grub 2 (the new Grub that's slowly becoming the default in many distros). It stores its configuration in /boot/grub/grub.cfg (not in menu.lst anymore) and is every bit as capable as grub legacy and then some (for example, it can boot some live CD.ISO images -- such as Ubuntu -- from your hard drive; also, I do like the way it (or its config stuff) looks. It's very Debian-ish from what I've seen. However, it doesn't appear to grok existing *BSD installs very well. Maybe I'm just not getting it yet. I'm still playing with it. On the upside, after a reinstall, my mouse is no longer invisible. :-) Yay. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Grub 2
Tixy debianu...@tixy.myzen.co.uk: On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 12:33 +, James Allsopp wrote: snip Problem is, I want to use grub2 as the first thing I'm going to do is upgrade to debian testing, which uses this. snip Is there a reason for not just installing Debian Testing rather than trying to get Lenny on there first? The testing install would add Grub2 and I believe that it (and fstab) now use UUIDs to identify drives, Speaking from a new testing install, correct, and I concur. which helps avoid hdX/sdX drive identification mixups. Can't speak to that. I a newbie to a lot of this, so may be talking rubbish. ;-) Sucks to be us. :-| -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: New testing install; no /boot/grub/menu.lst exists.
Wayne linux...@gmail.com linux...@gmail.com: s. keeling wrote: I'm new to testing. I've been running stable on primary box and (eg.) sid on sandbox for years. This is testing is on my sandbox for the first time. I just installed both squeeze(?)/testing and OpenBSD 4.6. How do I add the latter to testing's grub? /boot/grub/menu.lst doesn't exist, and /boot/grub contains stuff I've never seen before. You might be interested in grub-legacy, which is the grub you are used to. Thanks. That's looking very tempting at the moment. So far, I've not solved it. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: New testing install; no /boot/grub/menu.lst exists.
Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net: On 20100106_033032, s. keeling wrote: first time. I just installed both squeeze(?)/testing and OpenBSD 4.6. How do I add the latter to testing's grub? /boot/grub/menu.lst doesn't exist, and /boot/grub contains stuff I've never seen before. Testing uses grub2 by default. # update-grubcr creates a new grub.cfg file, which is the replacement for menu.lst, based on info in certain magical locations in /etc. If you have an incomplete list of installed kernels after a fresh install, just rerun update-grub, and that should fix it. YMMV, HTH, etc, etc Thanks. I'm beginning to think reportbug is going to be the solution to this. I've created a generic menu.lst, run update-grub numerous times, reinstalled grub2, replaced it with grub-legacy, ... The suggested grub-config doesn't exist (apt-file search doesn't find it), update-grub complains bitterly about the ptns: [ 1326.943454 ] UFS-fs error (device hda1): ufs_check_page: \ bad entry in directory #2 ... ... I've added OBSD to /etc/grub.d/40_custom ... No joy. On top of that, once logged in via gdm, my mouse goes invisible. Great. Classic Debian gotcha's. Exactly why I want to run testing on my sandbox. :-) Neither grub2 nor grub-legacy ever offer OBSD as a boot option. I'd be happy to go forward w grub2 if I can get it to work. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
New testing install; no /boot/grub/menu.lst exists.
I'm new to testing. I've been running stable on primary box and (eg.) sid on sandbox for years. This is testing is on my sandbox for the first time. I just installed both squeeze(?)/testing and OpenBSD 4.6. How do I add the latter to testing's grub? /boot/grub/menu.lst doesn't exist, and /boot/grub contains stuff I've never seen before. I can create it, but I'm expecting you to tell me it's been moved or renamed or $(debian_gotcha\'d) or something. I've $(googled) site:lists.debian.org debian testing grub menu.lst to no avail. This is Intel 32 bit, Compaq Evo, .5 Gb RAM. Other than this, it looks great. Install went well, can't wait to check out the logs and play with the thing. Thanks. Help? -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '' in emails.
Chris Jones cjns1...@gmail.com: On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 02:33:32PM EST, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Fri,01.Jan.10, 13:26:59, Chris Jones wrote: I noticed that some e-mails come back to this (and other) mailing lists with the traditional '' quote markers removed. [...] [snip] More to the point, couldn't the list managing program identify those messages and email back the perps that it is very very naughty and they need to stop doing it immediately, or else be spanked or even forcibly unsubscribed from the list? Please, no. I hate seeing badly formatted stuff as much as you (trust me!), but it's best to communicate if we can. That's the sharp end. All else's gravy. HNY! Accept that some can't/won't live up to your/our expectations. Drat! -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '' in emails.
John Hasler jhas...@debian.org: Celejar writes: What's wrong with using technical solutions to solve social problems? Shooting them is a technical solution. Strangling them would be a social one. Damn, I love your posts. Sorry, but shooting them is a philosophical problem first (Should we?). Then, it becomes technical (Lock phasers on the heffalump, ...). Keep goin' John. Please. Have fun. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '' in emails.
RobertHoltzman hol...@cox.net: On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 11:55:59AM +, Camale=EF=BF=BDn wrote: Educating them it always better than shooting them ;-) I dunno, thinning the herd has its merits :-) Trust me, ya gotta be careful with that kind of thinking. There were a lot of people who thought an obscure postal clerk in Austria hadn't a clue what he was talking about. Brilliance can come from anywhere. Don't cut your losses. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Help Please !
Kwaku Obeng kwakb...@gmail.com: My name is Kwaku Obeng and a Ghanaian by birth. I read about Debian a few months ago on website and I have been trying to download the DVD packs so I can practice the tutorials on the site but always end up with a corrupt copy which I am unable to boot from. I therefore wish to make an appeal to any of you who can send me a copy of the Debian 5.0 DVD Pack. Most often, all you need is a CD #1 of the current stable/testing release. Even better is the net boot image, less than 50 Mb last time I looked. It gets the rest for you. DSL (among others) is small too. See distrowatch.com -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: mutt deletes 1st unread
freeman free...@worldwidehtml.com: On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:55:54AM +0100, Nicolas KOWALSKI wrote: freeman free...@worldwidehtml.com writes: I use folder-hooks to archive mail after n weeks. Here is the l-debusr hook: folder-hook l-debusr 'push tag-pattern~r12w!~Fentertag-prefixsave-message+archive/l-debusrenter' I have the following for archiving old mail (90d) in my INBOX. folder-hook =INBOX 'push tag-pattern~R~r90dentertag-prefix-condsave-message=Archiveenterend-conduntag-pattern~Aenter' I'm glad you got your solution. Not criticism, honest, I'm curious why you wanted it. If something's still in your inbox after 90 days, it's because you've not yet deleted it. Why would you leave that work to an age-ist 'bot? My inbox has about 10 mails I've yet to get to. They've all been read. Everything else has been filed away or deleted. Perhaps we just have very different ways of dealing with it all. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: dlink dwa-556
lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de: Hi, Hi yourself. My only purpose here is to note that some of your posts are excruciatingly long. This elicits flames (some pay by the byte). Suggest: http://paste.debian.net/ --- Thanks for starting this thread. I'm learning as fast as I can (friend's D-Link WNA-1330/Atheros AR2413; not my box). This one works in Knoppix 6.2. I'm about to test Xubuntu and Sidux on it to see how they do it. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: gpm buffer: CLI vs. X
Wayne Topa linux...@gmail.com:
I mentioned I was running Squeeze. I was not asking for help. I was
relaying my attempts to get it to do what it says it can do. A CLI - X
clipboard APP that works is what I wanted. After reading all the docs
supplied, as well as Googleing for other methods, I am left still wanting.
Forgive me if I've misunderstood your need, but I suggest this; CLI
perl script you can use in either X or CLI, wraps your paste in html
and datestamps it, concatenates to an existing web page:
#!/usr/bin/perl
#
# ~/devl/perl/things.pl replaces ~/sh/things.sh; datestamps,
# separates, and pretty-prints entries.
#
# 13Apr2002 s. keeling 0001 replace things.sh
# 10Oct2004 s. keeling 0002 writes html
# 12Jun2005 s. keeling 0003 reformatting, lt; gt;
# 1Jul2005 s. keeling 0004 move to ~/dox
# ---
#
use strict;
use warnings;
my $outfile = qq($ENV{HOME}/dox/things_to_remember.html);
my $now;
chomp( $now = qx(date) );
open( THINGS, $outfile ) ||
die qq($0: could not open $outfile for append: $!);
print THINGS q(li ) . $now . q(br) . \n;
print THINGS q( pre) . \n;
while( STDIN ) {
s/\/lt;/g;
s/\/gt;/g;
print THINGS;
}
print THINGS q( /pre) . \n\n;
close( THINGS );
__END__
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help w wodim burning audio.
Hi. This is frustrating. I've been burning backups happily with this for years. Now, my musician buddy wants to distribute a demo cd, and I can't get anything to work (burn a playable audio CD). I know I've done something like this (ripped CDs) in the past, but burning a few .wav's is stumping me. I can play commercial CDs, and vlc plays the files fine when they're on the hard drive. I've found: http://tuxtraining.com/2009/07/31/all-your-cli-cddvd-burning-needs-with-wodim-genisoimage-growisofs-and-cdrdao which says: $ wodim -v -eject -pad -dao speed=12 dev=/dev/scd0 defpregap=0 -audio *.wav Everything I've tried with it produces a disk that plays static (even at speed=1). I've tried wav2cdr; same result. (0) phreaque /home/keeling/dwn/snd/mk_ file baby_its_you_2.mp3 baby_its_you_2.mp3: Audio file with ID3 version 2.2, MP3 encoding (after wav2cdr). BTW, consider me a noob where it comes to audio. I only barely know my way around this stuff. :-| This in two Lenny boxes, one a P-IV and the other an AMD 64-bit; both burners are DVD. Please, what's missing? Thanks. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how to set up iceweasel 3.5 to use mutt as mailer for link sendto
Elimar Riesebieter riese...@lxtec.de:
I've tried settings - apps - mailto - shellscript
Shellscript:
#!/bin/sh
exec xterm -e mutt $@
The xterm only pops up for 1 second.
Any hints?
Ben at linuxgazette.net and I've been playing with this for years (I
haven't used it in a while; caveat emptor):
#!/usr/bin/perl
#
# pinehelper.pl - Original from Ben Okopnik of LinuxGazette.net
#
# i) install wherever you want, make it world execute.
#
# ii) edit the user's prefs.js (via about:config) in
# ~/.mozilla/firefox/$blah.default:
#
# user_pref(network.protocol-handler.app.mailto, \
# /path/to/pinehelper);
#
# iii) edit $fn and geometry to taste.
#
# Restart FF, and clicking on a mailto:; link should fire up
# an xterm running mutt. To: will already be filled in. If
# the link provided a Subject:, it should be handled as well.
#
# 13Nov2005 Ben Okopnik 0001 Fix Firefox mailto: handling
# 16Jun2007 sbk 0002 bulletproofing, strict, my().
#
use diagnostics;
use warnings;
use strict;
my ( $fn, @chunks, $key, $value, %header, $opts);
# xterm font
#
# $fn = q(-*-*-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-15);
$fn = q(-*-*-medium-r-normal-*-15-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-15);
$geom = q(105x57-84+64);
@chunks = split /[?]/, shift;
for ( @chunks ) {
( $key, $value ) = split /[:=]/;
# Cheap-ass entity conversion; populates %header hash as:
#
# key value
# --- -
# subject subject string
# mailto w...@where.com
#
( $header{ $key } = $value ) =~ s/%(..)/pack(H2,$1)/eg;
}
# Define Mutt switches for any headers we're interested in, including
# optional ones
#
$opts = qq[ -s $header{subject} ] if exists $header{subject};
$opts .= $header{mailto};
exec qq(/usr/bin/xterm -fn $fn -geometry $geom -T Mutt -e /usr/bin/mutt $opts)
||
die qq(Blue? No, red?! A!: $!);
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Re: Help with dict-client in Lenny?
Charlie aries...@clearmail.com.au: On Sun, 10 May 2009 18:29:56 -0600 s. keeling keel...@nucleus.com shared this with us all: Hi. I've two Lenny boxes, both pretty much hand-crafted (as in no Desktop Environment on install; I startx into fluxbox). On one of them, dict-client works as expected. It brings the result up in a pager. In the other box, no pager. It just dumps it to stdout. How do I change this, or track down the problem? I've looked Sorry it took so long to find your reply; seems to happen to me a lot. This was useful, thanks. /etc/dictd/dict.conf contains: # pager most server localhost server dict.org server dict0.us.dict.org server alt0.dict.org I uncomment the pager line and get: /etc/dictd/dict.conf:17: syntax error, unexpected TOKEN_STRING, expecting TOKEN_SERVER /etc/dictd/dict.conf:17: pager most /etc/dictd/dict.conf:17: ^ dict (yyerror): parse error most is installed. This may help from man dict: -c file or --config file Specify the configuration file. The default is to try ~/.dictrc and /etc/dictd/dict.conf, using the first file that Again, thanks. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Power management on older laptop.
Chris Jones cjns1...@gmail.com: This is an old Dell Inspiron 7500 with an Intel PIII - (Coppermine) running debian 'lenny'. The hardware supports an early version of the SpeedStep technology that makes it possible to switch clocking between 650MHz and 500MHz. This is normally done via a BIOS option where the focus appears to be on battery life. Since the batteries are long dead and will not be replaced, I'm more looking into trying to lower the laptop's temperature a bit by having it either throttle the CPU, or put to sleep whatever components are not strictly necessary, when I'm not using the system.. or doing what I'm I think you're on the right track. Here's what I have on AMD-64 bit. (0) infidel /home/keeling_ lsmod | grep cpu cpufreq_userspace 8452 0 cpufreq_stats 9120 0 cpufreq_powersave 6400 0 cpufreq_ondemand 11792 2 cpufreq_conservative11784 0 freq_table 9344 3 cpufreq_stats,cpufreq_ondemand,powernow_k8 Replace that powernow_k8 with what you need, ... -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [SOLVED] Sound isnt working properly
Gregor Galwas g.gal...@highantdev.de: Ok, found the problem - kind of. 1. /etc/group was *READ*/write only to root. group/other were totally forbidden. Just to verify, are you sure that was /etc/group, or might it have been /etc/group- (namely its backup copy)? The latter should be 600. Alsa couldn't read /etc/group and could't check if a user has the right to play audio - ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:1605:(snd1_pcm_direct_parse_open_conf) The field ipc_gid must be a valid group (create group audio) 2. knotify4 was blocking the sound. I renamed it. Done. Now everything play fine, even 5.1 sorround-sound is fine. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: software fan control
andy baxter a...@earthsong.free-online.co.uk: Dale wrote: 2009/8/15 andy baxter a...@earthsong.free-online.co.uk: I have just built a mini-itx box with a jetway J7F4 motherboard. It's great, apart from the fan is a bit noisier than I had hoped - I bought it hoping Have a look at a package called lm-sensors, it has a program bundled in it for controlling fans. Thanks. I've just found out that if I connect the case fan to the CPUFAN header on the motherboard (the CPU is passively cooled), I can use a BIOS feature which does the same thing. Sorry for not doing a bit more research before I posted. Also look into cpufreqd et al. for fine-grained temp mgmt. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Laptop dv6650br is getting so warm
Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr: I've got a HP laptop (Compaq 6715b with a Turion 64 dual core) and it's running quite hot. When the CPU governor is set to PowerSave, it runs at roughly 52 C, and when the CPU governor is set to OnDemand, it easily reaches 90 C and more. FWIW, this is my experience as well. I have it on on-demand always, and it's hot to the touch over the fan (bottom left of kb). This is AMD-64 Turion X2 Dual core. I second another's suggestion to keep the fan clear. Doesn't help on heat, but it may help keep it from burning up. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: What is the best setup to compute in the burning hot sun?
Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net: On 2009-08-01 08:31, Ian L. Target wrote: [snip] That is what the lawn is for. ;) Dud, I think your TMI alarm is broken. Three Mile Island alarm?!? -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: question about email delivery triggered by resent thread on musings
Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net: I think it has something to do with Procmail. I run Procmail to distribute emails by topic/sender/etc. When fetchmail terminates, procmail is still running, I suspect. Is this what is happening? Is procmail will log its activities, with VERBOSE = yes giving plenty of detail: PMDIR = $HOME/procmail LOGFILE = $PMDIR/log LOGABSTRACT = yes -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Sadly...
Teemu Likonen tliko...@iki.fi: On 2009-07-23 17:46 (UTC), s. keeling wrote: vim (from mutt) also puts the cursor at the beginning. ... While emacs, called from mutt or slrn, puts it right at the start of the body text. :-) These command-line text editors have +n option to choose the starting Well, I may be cheating anyway. I also have Rob Reid (et al)'s post.el here, which may be doing it instead. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Sadly...
Celejar cele...@gmail.com: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:29:35 +0300 Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue,21.Jul.09, 21:01:22, Sven Joachim wrote: The right position for the cursor when starting a reply is at the beginning of the quoted text so that you can - cut parts of it which are not interesting for your reply - easily scroll to a position in the text where you want to start a reply, handy for the inline quoting style. vim (from mutt) also puts the cursor at the beginning. Sylpheed does too, but all the way at the beginning, at the On $DATE ... line. ... While emacs, called from mutt or slrn, puts it right at the start of the body text. :-) -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Live CD says all fs clean, but...
ron.l.john...@cox.net ron.l.john...@cox.net: boot procedure still mounts / as RO, and so it can't write to /var (which is part of /) and thus the boot process freezes just after S55something. (No, it doesn't drop me into single-user mode. I think it wants to, but things fly by so fast that I can't see.) Thanks P.S. - Yes, I see the irony in this email, based upon what I wrote a couple of days ago questioning the need for separate partitions... Look on the bright side. You get to test your recovery procedures. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Live CD says all fs clean, but...
ron.l.john...@cox.net ron.l.john...@cox.net: s. keeling keel...@nucleus.com wrote: ron.l.john...@cox.net ron.l.john...@cox.net: boot procedure still mounts / as RO, and so it can't write to /var (which is part of /) and thus the boot process freezes just after S55something. (No, it doesn't drop me into single-user mode. I think it wants to, but things fly by so fast that I can't see.) Look on the bright side. You get to test your recovery procedures. Monty Python references not appreciated at this moment... Is this better: Pull out the CD-R to which you backed up your project directory. No, I'm not trying to be flippant. For the past 50 years, people/ organizations that don't make backups don't have any right to whine about lost data. -- Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net :-) Tell me to STFU anytime. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
serial port mouse fouls up lenny?
Canibalising my desktop for a ps/2 mouse, I replaced it with a serial mouse. Now, X on desktop is seriously hosed. I've tried dpkg- reconfigure, but it never asks where the mouse is. What am I missing? I'll dig into backups to see what I need in xorg.conf, but I'd like to understand what happened. My (post-dpr) /etc/X11/xorg.conf: - # xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file) # # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using # values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page. # (Type man xorg.conf at the shell prompt.) # # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg # package. # # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated # again, run the following command: # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Section Files RgbPath /usr/share/X11/rgb ModulePath /usr/lib/xorg/modules FontPath /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi FontPath /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Adobe FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TTF FontPath /usr/share/fonts/OTF FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1 FontPath /usr/share/fonts/myfonts FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc104 Option XkbLayout us EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse EndSection Section Device Identifier Configured Video Device EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Configured Monitor EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Monitor Configured Monitor EndSection - Thanks. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How do you get aptitude to do what you want?
lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de: I'm trying to upgrade my testing installation, but aptitude keeps yelp in its current state, claiming that upgrading yelp would break a dependency with gman. But gman is not even installed. When I mark yelp as upgradeable, it says that it would break scrollkeeper. So I tell it to purge scrollkeeper, but it again says it breaks some dependencies: [snip] Now I don't need those packages, but when I mark them to be purged and press g, aptitude says it wants to install rarian-compat and to keep above packages, except for synaptic, at their current state. Now when looking at the list what it is going to do, it doesn't say it will keep these packages in their current states. Instead, it will remove scrollkeeper, ugrade 66 packages (including yelp) and install 3 new ones to satisfy dependencies. Why is this so confusing? Why does it say it will keep some packages in their states but then doesn't say that it will do that? It doesn't mention the packages it said to keep in their states at all now. Aptitude always acts so weird :( What's the problem with it? Dselect always just did what I wanted it to do. I've always suspected that apt/aptitude's not at fault. I seldom run into this stuff, I suspect, by simply eschewing Gnome/KDE/CUPS/... That's where the complexity comes in. Even xfce displays this fragility in recent tests. I almost called one of my users a liar the other day when I couldn't believe what he was telling me. Sure enough, he was right (no Username: or Password: displayed in the *DM login prompt). I do a minimal install, then drag in only the stuff I want (fluxbox, emacs, mutt, slrn, bogofilter, afio, ...). It takes some time the first time, but take notes and it's faster than the automated way subsequently. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Question about Installing Lenny on a laptop
Cláudio E. Elicker elic...@gmail.com: On Wednesday 17 June 2009, Petrus Validus wrote: ... Usually I just install the base and build from there (on desktops) but since I'm on a laptop I'm wondering what tools and packages are part of the Laptop selection? Try this: aptitude search '~tlaptop' Cool, and to the OP, I in installed just the base, then dragged what I needed in. The above lists this here (lenny): i acpi - displays information on ACPI devices i acpi-support - scripts for handling many ACPI events i acpid- Utilities for using ACPI power management i anacron - cron-like program that doesn't go by time i apmd - Utilities for Advanced Power Management (APM) i avahi-autoipd- Avahi IPv4LL network address configuration daemon i bluetooth- Bluetooth stack utilities i cpufrequtils - utilities to deal with the cpufreq Linux kernel feature i hibernate- smartly puts your computer to sleep (suspend to RAM or disk) i nvclock - Allows you to overclock your nVidia card under GNU/Linux i pcmciautils - PCMCIA utilities for Linux 2.6 i powertop - Linux tool to find out what is using power on a laptop i radeontool - utility to control ATI Radeon backlight functions on laptops i toshset - Access much of the Toshiba laptop hardware interface i vbetool - run real-mode video BIOS code to alter hardware state i wireless-tools - Tools for manipulating Linux Wireless Extensions i wpasupplicant- Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i) For more information look here: http://wiki.debian.org/tasksel Thanks. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: xautolock does nothing...
Tony Baldwin photodha...@gmail.com: I have xautolock and slock installed, and have tried to use this: xautolock -time 5 -locker slock for those times I walk away and forget to engage slock. But it doesn't work. Any idea why? No, but I can offer a solution. Try xscreensaver (and related). If you run Gkrellm, you can use Gkrellshoot to lock it at the click of a button, or it can be set up to autolock after inactivity. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT] SQL Syntax Error '????????????????'
Harry Rickards hricka...@l33tmyst.com: I know this is off-topic, but I don't really want to have to subscribe to or constantly read the MySQL mailing lists, and the IRC channel's no help. Search the archives: groups.google.com comp.databases.mysql # guessing. However, I think your problem more relates to java than sql. I've written some sample code in Java that connects to localhost using the MySQL JDBC. I've tried multiple variations of the code, but even when using the proper code from MySQL's website, I get the following error: SQLException: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '' at line 1 SQLState: 42000 VendorError: 1064 Does your query run in a commandline session with the db? -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: MySQL admin qref? [Solved]
deb...@waysoft.com deb...@waysoft.com: On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 18:41:10 -0600 s. keeling keel...@nucleus.com wrote: Incoming from Robert Baron: On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 5:13 PM, s. keeling keel...@nucleus.com wrote: (0) [root] infidel /root_ mysql ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) have you tried the following? mysqladmin -u root password NEWPASSWORD (0) [root] infidel /root_ mysqladmin -u root password '.' mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)' Looks like root already has a password set. If so, and you know what it is, try... mysqladmin -u root -p password NEWPASSWORD and you will be prompted for the old password. If you don't think there is an old password, or you forgot it, try one of the sites that explain how to reset a mysql root password, e.g: http://blog.dotkam.com/2007/04/10/mysql-reset-lost-root-password/ Much appreciated. I wouldn't trust everything on that page (kill -9 mysqld?!?), but this works: /etc/init.d/mysql stop mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables mysql -u root mysql update user set password=PASSWORD(...) where user=root; mysql flush privileges; mysql quit; then: pkill mysqld_safe /etc/init.d/mysql start mysql -u root -p and that asks for and accepts the new password. Thanks for your help. :-) And yes, I'm well aware that mysql's root user should not be confused with system root. This is lenny, fwiw. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT] Gmail posters! turn off html!
Chris Bannister mockingb...@earthlight.co.nz: On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 10:07:51PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Tue,02.Jun.09, 16:27:18, Harry Rickards wrote: While I use Thunderbird, some people use CLI-based mail clients such as alpine or mutt. In these, HTML shows up as the actual HTML code. Not unless it's terribly misconfigured ;) I read the list in the mail -- news gateway linux.debian.user, in slrn. Mailing list traffic doesn't need html. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
MySQL admin qref?
Hi. I'm trying to config mysql. I've done this before, and it worked well, and I took notes, but they're not helping at the moment. I haven't tried everything yet, and I'd rather come up with a plan than work from flawed notes. On Debian, how do you set the mysql root user pword? I've tried mysql-admin, but I don't know what I'm doing. dpkg-reconfigure was no help. Once I can get in, I can create a user and work from there. (0) [root] infidel /root_ mysql ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) Once I'm in, I can: update mysql.user set password=password(...) where user='root'; How's this supposed to be done? -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: MySQL admin qref?
Incoming from Robert Baron:
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 5:13 PM, s. keeling keel...@nucleus.com wrote:
Hi. I'm trying to config mysql. I've done this before, and it worked
well, and I took notes, but they're not helping at the moment. I
haven't tried everything yet, and I'd rather come up with a plan than
work from flawed notes.
On Debian, how do you set the mysql root user pword? I've tried
mysql-admin, but I don't know what I'm doing. dpkg-reconfigure was no
help.
Once I can get in, I can create a user and work from there.
(0) [root] infidel /root_ mysql
ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using
password: NO)
Once I'm in, I can:
update mysql.user set password=password(...) where user='root';
How's this supposed to be done?
have you tried the following?
mysqladmin -u root password NEWPASSWORD
Thanks man. I've spent hours hunting my notes and history for that.
I remember doing that. Now:
(0) [root] infidel /root_ mysqladmin -u root password '.'
mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
mysqld is running, but this is the first time I've been anywhere near
this mysql install (and I really hate being a dba. :-)
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[OT] Gmail posters! turn off html! (was: Re: How to improve performance on laptop?)
Michael Yang michael@gmail.com: [snip] This is a mailing list. The text is all that's needed. Thanks. [html makes your posts ugly and difficult to read.] -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?
JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com: lee wrote: the subject says it all: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays? Try this: http://clive.sourceforge.net/ ITYM: aptitude update aptitude install clive -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?
JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com: s. keeling wrote: JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com: lee wrote: the subject says it all: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays? http://clive.sourceforge.net/ ITYM: aptitude update aptitude install clive Nag, nag, nag ;) Perhaps, however, most times I've gone looking for useful info on sf, I've come away frustrated. aptitude search or show and apt-file are far more informative, IME. Debian don't need no steenking sf! :-) No offence intended to sf, btw. They do good things too, just not this one very well. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Help with dict-client in Lenny?
Hi. I've two Lenny boxes, both pretty much hand-crafted (as in no Desktop Environment on install; I startx into fluxbox). On one of them, dict-client works as expected. It brings the result up in a pager. In the other box, no pager. It just dumps it to stdout. How do I change this, or track down the problem? I've looked at bugs.debian.org, the manpage, googled dict pager site:lists.debian.org, I can't see anything pertinent in /etc/dictd. I have no ~/.dict*. Thanks. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) Please don't Cc: me. - - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: less secure login
David Jardine da...@jardine.de: When logging into a console under squeeze, a false user name is now rejected immediately. Up to recently there was no reaction to a false user name until the password had been entered. Although I personally find the new behaviour more convenient, it seems to me less secure to give an intruder feedback on his guess at the user name before he goes on to guessing the password. I couldn't find anything relevant to the change in the docs under I noticed on a recent Lenny install that the maintainer had changed the default behaviour of useradd/adduser (?). Dunno if that's related. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) Please don't Cc: me. - - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Mutt, Exim4, Debian, Ubuntu and BCC. FAIL (debian-news.net).
Hey. Please see: http://www.debian-news.net/2009/04/29/mutt-exim4-debian-ubuntu-and-bcc-fail-fix-included/ Do any of you out there have any more details on this problem? I've tried the fix suggested, and on my first test (no Bcc:) exim4 bounced it saying no recipient addresses found. I've since reverted it until I can sort it out. Exim4: -- A message that you sent using the -t command line option contained no addresses that were not also on the command line, and were therefore suppressed. This left no recipient addresses, and so no delivery could be attempted. -- -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) Please don't Cc: me. - - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: All locales in /usr/share/locale
Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt: Technicly, can i safely remove unused locales? I do use localepurge (on the new system since isntall), but there don't seem to be included in the process. dpkg-reconfigure locales Unselect the locales you don't want, then run localeourge again. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Intro
Ben Badgley mortecan...@peoplepc.com: My name is Ben Badgley. I live in rural Virginia, we can visit Have fun. Wise choice. If you need help, *please* tell us what you've got and what it's doing so we have a chance at helping (/var/log/* is useful). I've been loving this stuff since '93. :-) -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny 5.0 AMD64 install hangs
Luiz Guilherme Regis Emediato lgeme...@terra.com.br: I am trying to install Debian 5.0 Lenny on AMD64 machine but it hangs at partitioning. Why ? I don't know. It had no trouble installing on my AMD64. I need some help here. I need some more details to be able to help. I can suggest you use SystemRescueCD (www.sysresccd.org/Download) to partition; it includes a few partitioners, including partimage and command line fdisk (my favourite). Then, boot into the Lenny installer and tell it how to use the new ptns. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
[OT] Re: question about term
Zhengquan Zhang zhang.zhengq...@gmail.com: ... [snipped] -- I have a theory that it's impossible to prove anything, but I can't prove it. Good one, but lacks originality? Cf. Goedel Escher Bach? -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
[Solved] Re: No sound on HP dv4
I just plugged a pair of external speakers into this thing this morning, and found it all appears to work. YouTube videos and wmv files play fine. s. keeling keel...@nucleus.com: Nigel Henry cave.dnb2m9...@aliceadsl.fr: Repost of info posted on the /dev/sndstat thread by s. keeling. s. keeling keel...@nucleus.com: I'm just adding my similar situation. It's an HP dv4 AMD Turion dual core. I've not heard a peep of sound from it yet. Linux newmil 2.6.28-0.slh.11-sidux-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jan 15 22:48:01 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux. Kernel is stock Sidux. $ lspci | grep Audio 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) 01:05.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RS780 Azalia controller [snip] First try loading the snd-hda-intel module as root. See below. modprobe snd-hda-intel That worked. It loads. if the modprobe snd-hda-intel does result in the module showing up in lsmod's The modprobe at the commandline managed to turn the red microphone icon on the laptop white (or I that's what did it). Red mic icon is again red. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://www.xs4all.nl/~js/gnksa/ Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Acomdata 320 Gb external USB Linux/Sidux.
Acomdata 320 Gb external USB has so far been useless on every Linux I've tried it with. Thanks to a hint from d-u, I finally got around to loading usb_storage (Doh!). That manages to get this drive to elicit sdb (finally). The box says it's USB 2.0 (Interface: Hi-Speed USB 2.0). Acomdata E5 HybridDrive with stand. Windows Vista Compatible, fwiw. But see the end. fdisk sees nothing on this thing. Previously, all I could find on this thing was a read-only ptn, ca. 3 Gb, and system saw it as /dev/sr?. HTF do I partition this thing?!? :-| No hurry; it's just annoying. Surely Sidux should be able to handle hardware I bought last year. :-( Drat. I've fought with this thing on a Compaq Evo desktop running etch, an AMD Sempron running Slack and Sidux, and an HP Pavilion AMD Turion 64 bit. Ideas? What am I missing? Thanks. --- Mar 16 16:48:14 newmil kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage Mar 16 16:48:14 newmil kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered. Mar 16 17:00:08 newmil kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3 Mar 16 17:00:08 newmil kernel: usb 2-2: not running at top speed; connect to a high speed hub Mar 16 17:00:08 newmil kernel: usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Mar 16 17:00:08 newmil kernel: scsi8 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Mar 16 17:00:08 newmil kernel: usb 2-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0c0b, idProduct=b311 Mar 16 17:00:08 newmil kernel: usb 2-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 Mar 16 17:00:08 newmil kernel: usb 2-2: Product: USB 2.0 CD + HDD Mar 16 17:00:08 newmil kernel: usb 2-2: Manufacturer: DMI Mar 16 17:00:08 newmil kernel: usb 2-2: SerialNumber: 03280800058C Mar 16 17:00:13 newmil kernel: isa bounce pool size: 16 pages Mar 16 17:00:13 newmil kernel: scsi scan: INQUIRY result too short (5), using 36 Mar 16 17:00:13 newmil kernel: scsi 8:0:0:0: CD-ROMDMI USB2.0 CD-ROM1.15 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 Mar 16 17:00:13 newmil kernel: scsi 8:0:0:1: Direct-Access DMI USB2.0 Storage 1.15 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 Mar 16 17:00:13 newmil kernel: sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 52x/52x cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray Mar 16 17:00:13 newmil kernel: sr 8:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 5 Mar 16 17:00:13 newmil kernel: sd 8:0:0:1: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk Mar 16 17:00:13 newmil kernel: sd 8:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0 (0) phreaque /home/keeling_ things (0) newmil [root] /root_ fdisk -l /dev/sdb (0) newmil [root] /root_ fdisk /dev/sdb Unable to read /dev/sdb --- -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://www.xs4all.nl/~js/gnksa/ Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch.
Douglas A. Tutty dtu...@vianet.ca:
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:00:58AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Friday 13 March 2009 08:43:07 Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
As for rolling upgrades, great but what about when e.g. a hard
drive
fails.
It's called a backup.
Sure, if you want to do a back-up of the whole installed she-bang
(rather than just the data and the required debs).
I use the following to do backups. It calls afio using bzip
compression to back up specific filesystems (/home, /etc, /var, ...).
It does not bother to backup anything that's on a Debian install CD.
Install minimal Debian on new box, drag in your archives, and you're
back to square one. You do not need to image the drive a la
Windows. The Debian installer is much better at sorting that stuff
out than you or I.
Caveat, relies on a /scratch hierarchy.
-
#!/bin/bash
#
# /home/keeling/sh/new_mkafio - usage (as of Etch (16Nov2007)):
#
# i) Build compressed afio archives of selected partitions.
#
# (0) heretic /home/keeling_ su -c \
#time nice ~keeling/sh/mkafio
#
# ii) Manually copy any other files you want archived into
#${AFIO} (defined in root's .profile).
#
# iii) burn the result to CD-R(W):
#
# *** New! *** mkisofs is done by function mkiso.
# Newer! Disabled! Run mkisofs as follows.
# * Newer! Yes, and what does that mean? Why is mkiso()
deprecated? Idiot!
# ** Where is ${ISO} today? Does root know? He's running this.
# *** mkiso() is re-enabled, and it works on phreaque/Etch.
#
# *** Don't do this! The script does it for you. ***
#(0) heretic /home/keeling_ mkisofs -o $ISO/track_01.img \
#-pad -allow-leading-dots -max-iso9660-filenames \
#-r -relaxed-filenames $AFIO
#
#(0) heretic /home/keeling_ wodim speed=16 dev=/dev/hdd fs=64M \
#-eject -data driveropts=burnfree $ISO/track_01.img
#
# afio switches: -z print stats
# -Z compress
# -v verbose
# -T 3k files 3 Kb are not compressed
# (for performance)
# -o output filename
# -P bzip2 use bzip2 compression
#
# Documentation: see EOF.
#
# -
#
# set -x
# who should everything end up being owned by?
#
owner=keeling
ogroup=keeling
umask 022 # was 0022; testing - 24Jan2008
# paranoia.
#
if [ -f ~/mkafio_fail ]; then
echo failed last time. \$HOME/mkafio_fail exists.
exit 0
fi
# some defaults
#
if [ -d /scratch ]; then
topdir=/scratch
elif [ -d /home/keeling/scratch ]; then
topdir=/home/keeling/scratch
else
echo Cannot determine whereabouts of \$scratch; bailing.
# initialize paranoia.
#
touch ~/mkafio_fail
exit 1
fi
workdir=${topdir}/afio
iso=${topdir}/iso/track_01.img
me=$(basename ${0})
now=$(date '+%Y%m%d')
mo=$(date '+%m')
# backup the old one, copy in the new one, before we burn backup.
#
mv ${workdir}/mkafio ${workdir}/mkafio_old
cp /home/keeling/sh/mkafio ${workdir}
# DON'T put ${AFIO} in here! It's where everything else
# is written to. Contents of ${topdir}/afio WILL be
# burned to the iso by mkisofs
#
ptns=etc home var
#
# Functions. -
#
# mkisofs? create iso fs for wodim to burn.
#
mkiso() {
genisoimage -o ${iso} \
-allow-leading-dots -pad -max-iso9660-filenames \
-input-charset iso-8859-15 -r -relaxed-filenames \
-T -publisher 's. keeling keel...@nucleus.com' \
${workdir}
sleep 10
chown keeling:keeling ${iso}
}
# tar up /root
#
root() {
echo ${me}: archiving root's HOME.
tar czpf ${workdir}/${now}_root.tgz /root
sleep 3
# chmod 660 ${workdir}/${now}_root.tgz
chown keeling:keeling ${workdir}/${now}_root.tgz
}
# tar up /usr/local
#
uloc() {
echo ${me}: /usr/local
tar czpf ${workdir}/${now}_usrlocal.tgz /usr/local
}
# create list of installed packages.
#
plist() {
if [ -f /etc/debian_version ]; then
echo ${me}: making sorted package list.
/usr/bin/dpkg --get-selections ${workdir}/${now}_packages.txt
else
echo ${me}: not running Debian. Cannot make pkg list!
echo 'see plist()'
fi
}
# list ptn config.
#
ptns() {
echo ${me}: creating fdisk listing.
fdisk -l ${workdir}/${now}_fdisk.txt
echo ${workdir}/${now}_fdisk.txt
pydf --bw -h ${workdir}/${now}_fdisk.txt
}
# list pci devices.
#
ls_pci() {
echo ${me}: saving lspci output.
lspci -vv ${workdir}/${now}_lspci.txt
}
# raw hardware listing.
# hwinfo --short, too expensive and disruptive (don't trust).
# I have a copy run in 23Mar2008. no need
Re: Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch.
Csanyi Pal csanyi...@gmail.com: Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca writes: Yup, I did a reinstall of Etch. I just did a minimal install this time (unchecked all the options in tasksel). I was able to get througt the base install and right up to the installation of GRUB and the reboot and could log in. In other words, no surprises. Etch is installable. I've not got through the base install the Lenny CDs, however. How about doing an upgrade instead? You could even try to do it incrementally. I had a problem to upgrade on an old Pentium with K6 uProcessor from Etch to Lenny. When I edited the sources.list so that I can to update aptitude from a Debian Lenny mirror then I get error message: Illegal instruction and can't to use aptitude anymore. Just a guess: have you read the release notes. Etch -- Lenny requires upgrading/reinstalling certain (critical packaging system) packages first. wiki.debian.org can probably explain it. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://www.xs4all.nl/~js/gnksa/ Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch.
Robert Hodgins ehodg...@telusplanet.net: Lenny installer isn't. Should I still be using this machine down the road (and I'd like to keep it going as long as the hardware holds up), I'm all for driving it into the ground in order to get your money's worth out of the price of a car, but really, unless you're asking for almost nothing from that machine (in terms of performance), think diminishing returns. My desktop machine is a *used* PIV-2.4 Ghz with 0.5 GB RAM and 40 Gb HD. It only cost me C$160 a couple of years ago. If you're only using it for a firewall/server, maybe consider the *BSDs. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://www.xs4all.nl/~js/gnksa/ Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch. Try 2
Robert Hodgins ehodg...@telusplanet.net: and boot from the CD reader using an SBM card Not a card. Sorry. I meant a floppy. I use a floppy with Smart Boot Manager v. 3.7.1 on it so that the computer will boot from the CD. I've used this before (a long time ago) on a AMD 486DX3-100. It worked. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://www.xs4all.nl/~js/gnksa/ Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
