Re: problèm e de font dans emacs et xemacs avec unstable
* Joris REHM [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-04-25 20:57] : Bonjour, Je suis en unstable et je viens de faire ma mise à jour. J'ai le même problème avec emacs et xemacs (j'ai besoin des deux). Le message d'erreur affiché est (le même pour les deux) : Warning: Cannot convert string -*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* to type FontStruct Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font Warning: Cannot convert string -*-helvetica-medium-r-*--*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 to type FontStruct Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font Les symptômes pour emacs : des carrés affichés à la place des caractère. Quand a xemacs il segfault carrément... Je ne connais rien à la gestion des polices, mais je pense que le passage aux dernier X.Org a tout cassé. Quelqu'un a une idée ? (en plus ca tombe mal j'ai besoin de xemacs pour travailler) Tu peux regarder les rapports de bogue 362894, 363664 et 363667. La solution indiquée devrait résoudre ton problème. Fred -- Comment poser les questions intelligemment http://www.gnurou.org/Writing/SmartQuestionsFr Comment signaler efficacement un bogue http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs-fr.html -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problème de font dans emacs et xemacs avec unstable
Frédéric Bothamy wrote: Tu peux regarder les rapports de bogue 362894, 363664 et 363667. La solution indiquée devrait résoudre ton problème. Rhaa j'avais pourtant fait une recherche ... Merci bien cela a résolu mon problème. Si quelqu'un cherche il y avait deux problèmes conjugés 1) faire ln -s /usr/lib/X11/fonts /usr/share/fonts/X11/ 2) installer mule-ucs a+ -- Joris REHM [EMAIL PROTECTED] ou [EMAIL PROTECTED] ou [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problèm e de font dans emacs et xemacs avec unstable
Bonjour, Joris REHM [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Je suis en unstable et je viens de faire ma mise à jour. J'ai le même problème avec emacs et xemacs (j'ai besoin des deux). Le message d'erreur affiché est (le même pour les deux) : emacs en xterm ? ou emacs sous x I presume... Warning: Cannot convert string -*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* to type FontStruct Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font Warning: Cannot convert string -*-helvetica-medium-r-*--*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 to type FontStruct Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font Si c'est un pb de sortie : les fontes sont-elles installées et déclarées ds le fichier de conf d'x.org ? Les symptômes pour emacs : des carrés affichés à la place des caractère. Quand a xemacs il segfault carrément... Je ne connais rien à la gestion des polices, mais je pense que le passage aux dernier X.Org a tout cassé. Quelqu'un a une idée ? Perso je ne connais pas unstable mais il faut peut-être regarder également l'entrée en faisant : $: dpkg-reconfigure console-data $: emacs /etc/console-tools/config # non ce n'est pas de la provoc $:/etc/init.d/console-screen.sh hth -- Philippe Monroux Ile de la Reunion E 55.3 S 21.5 -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Skillnader mellan Emacs och XEmacs? (Var: Re: Svenska tecken i xemacs -nw)
Anders Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Finesser i xemacs som jag saknar (och inte haft tid/ork/kunskap att implementera sjlv): * C-g goto-line C-g r quit i bde Emacs och XEmacs vad jag vet. Menar du M-g? (global-set-key (kbd M-g) 'goto-line) * Shift-piltangent fr att snabbt markera block (pc-selection-mode 1) Annars r det nog mest tycke och smak.
rglage des couleurs pour emacs et xemacs
Bonjour, Je cherche à personnaliser les couleurs dans emacs et xemacs. Configurer le fichier ~/.Xdefaults ne marche pas. J'ai vu paser un doc sur internet (mais je n'arrive pas à le retrouver) expliquant que sur une debian que le réglage n'est pas orthodoxe... Une piste ? Sergio __ ifrance.com, l'email gratuit le plus complet de l'Internet ! vos emails depuis un navigateur, en POP3, sur Minitel, sur le WAP... http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/email.emailif
Re: réglage des couleurs pour emacs et xemacs
Serge Basterot [EMAIL PROTECTED] a déclaré : Je cherche à personnaliser les couleurs dans emacs et xemacs. Configurer le fichier ~/.Xdefaults ne marche pas. J'ai vu paser un doc sur internet (mais je n'arrive pas à le retrouver) expliquant que sur une debian que le réglage n'est pas orthodoxe... Une piste ? Chez moi, j'ai dans mon .Xressources : Emacs*Background: DarkSlateGray Emacs*Foreground: Wheat Emacs*pointerColor: Orchid Emacs*cursorColor: Orchid Emacs*bitmapIcon: on Emacs*font: fixed Et ça marche (tm) ! benoit -- The world is coming to an end... SAVE YOUR BUFFERS!!
Re: réglage des couleurs pour emacs et xemacs
SB == Serge Basterot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bonjour, Bonjour, Je cherche à personnaliser les couleurs dans emacs et xemacs. Configurer le fichier ~/.Xdefaults ne marche pas. J'ai vu paser un doc sur internet (mais je n'arrive pas à le retrouver) expliquant que sur une debian que le réglage n'est pas orthodoxe... Une piste ? C'est normal que ça ne marche pas, c'est ~/.Xresources et non pas ~/.Xdefaults Christian
Re: réglage des couleurs pour emacs et xemacs
Benoit Friry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Serge Basterot [EMAIL PROTECTED] a déclaré : [...] Configurer le fichier ~/.Xdefaults ne marche pas. J'ai vu paser un doc sur internet (mais je n'arrive pas à le retrouver) expliquant que sur une debian que le réglage n'est pas orthodoxe... Une piste ? Chez moi, j'ai dans mon .Xressources : Il me semble que justement, il faut utiliser .Xressources et pas .Xdefaults. -- Jean-Philippe Georget [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://jpgeorget.ouvaton.org/
Re: réglage des couleurs pour emacs et xemacs
On Sunday 02 December 2001 14:00, Christian Marillat wrote: SB == Serge Basterot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bonjour, Bonjour, Je cherche à personnaliser les couleurs dans emacs et xemacs. Configurer le fichier ~/.Xdefaults ne marche pas. J'ai vu paser un doc sur internet (mais je n'arrive pas à le retrouver) expliquant que sur une debian que le réglage n'est pas orthodoxe... Une piste ? C'est normal que ça ne marche pas, c'est ~/.Xresources et non pas ~/.Xdefaults Ah ! hum hum ... ouais ben j'étais pas loin quand même hein ? ;-) Maintenant il est tout beau mon xemacs. Merci et à bientôt Sergio __ ifrance.com, l'email gratuit le plus complet de l'Internet ! vos emails depuis un navigateur, en POP3, sur Minitel, sur le WAP... http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/email.emailif
Re: emacs or xemacs ?
From: Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Daniel Barclay wrote: .. Bringing the Control key back from exile is much cheaper and more productive (than reaching unnaturally and having to see a doctor). i've never had trouble with my control key being in exile... Then again, i never learned to touch type either (: Maybe the question is whether you use version control and do it with one hand. (I'm thinking of the ^Q in ^X-^Q.) Daniel
Re: emacs or xemacs ?
From: Richard E. Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] . . . also, using emacs on CCIE (*Control Key In Exile) keyboard, causing enough long reaches on my little finger sthat I had to see a quack, is probably part (put a minor part) of my avoiding either. Bringing the Control key back from exile is much cheaper and more productive (than reaching unnaturally and having to see a doctor). It can even be done on MS Windows! Daniel
Re: emacs or xemacs ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Daniel Barclay wrote: From: Richard E. Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] . . . also, using emacs on CCIE (*Control Key In Exile) keyboard, causing enough long reaches on my little finger sthat I had to see a quack, is probably part (put a minor part) of my avoiding either. Bringing the Control key back from exile is much cheaper and more productive (than reaching unnaturally and having to see a doctor). i've never had trouble with my control key being in exile... Then again, i never learned to touch type either (: - -- finger for PGP public key. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBN+14Fr7M/9WKZLW5AQHCZwP+MkDVmSRDfubQqStId1hBxtjHCVWZMrUu 4ruWqWFBBJYFZMxAK8Cb6YGhyo8OtBKwvIvpdJuyS9NL7NlJrfeyHj662O97Xf4S oRXmjrG56YdfCaCTESc1oermZI3e5gs5Iw4/DioRLbEe64VPrz/z0/I/MEoO4DXb sEUnc/aRhO0= =Mb6R -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: emacs or xemacs ?
Jan Vroonhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Even if selfishness were a proper descriptions of motivations of previous XEmacs maintainers (which it isn't) Perhaps that is too strong; I suspect the original problem was simply laziness. But it still pulled a major wedgy on the emacs community. then may I remark that almost all of the people who work on XEmacs in some major way have copyright assignments on file at the FSF and people who contribute to XEmacs are all encouraged to do so (although it is not a requirement). No doubt the current maintainers are all-around great guys, but bad tastes tend to linger, no matter how spotless the current reality. Cheers, -Miles -- Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come. --Nietzsche
Re: emacs or xemacs ?
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Rob Mahurin wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 07:32:22PM -0400, Kristopher Johnson wrote: I honestly don't mean to start a holy war here, but I'd like to know: Is there anyone who prefers Emacs to XEmacs, and why? I use emacs when I'm in a text terminal (like right now) because I haven't figured out how to use Xemacs' menus from the text terminal and some of the functions of Xemacs (e.g., syntax highlighting) seem inaccessible without mouse access to the proper menus. I started to use xemacs for my latex work because emacs and auctex (at least on slink) has some sort of bug which causes the ``quotation'' marks not to work correctly as soon as you work on a file which already exists. On a tty screen I still use emacs20 because xemacs's behaviour involving the backspace and delete keys is giving me problems in that environment. I would prefer to use emacs all the time if it was not for the auctex problem I am experiencing. Johann -- | Johann Spies Windsorlaan 19 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]3201 Pietermaritzburg | | Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 Suid-Afrika (South Africa) | -- Honor the LORD with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase; So shall thy barns be filled with plenty, and thy presses shall burst out with new wine. Proverbs 3:9,10
Re: emacs or xemacs ?
I honestly don't mean to start a holy war here, but I'd like to know: Is there anyone who prefers Emacs to XEmacs, and why? On my meager Pentium 90, Xemacs takes about 20 seconds to load, and emacs loads in about 3. I prefer emacs. -- Thank you, Joe Bouchard Powered by Debian Linux (Slink)
Re: emacs or xemacs ?
Rob Mahurin wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 07:32:22PM -0400, Kristopher Johnson wrote: I honestly don't mean to start a holy war here, but I'd like to know: Is there anyone who prefers Emacs to XEmacs, and why? I use emacs when I'm in a text terminal (like right now) because I haven't figured out how to use Xemacs' menus from the text terminal and some of the functions of Xemacs (e.g., syntax highlighting) seem inaccessible without mouse access to the proper menus. In addition, the cut and paste works differently in Xemacs (in a text terminal) than in any other text-based program, and it always messes with me. I am sure that these things are configureable, but I haven't found them and I don't feel like learning Lisp and reading the source. Actually, that's precisely why I like XEmacs--it has menu options for doing most of the configuration. My biggest complaint about classic Emacs was the need to spend hours going through Lisp source code to figure out what magic to add to .emacs (and I actually *like* Lisp). I agree that if you are using a text terminal, then there is no reason to use XEmacs. I should have qualified my original question to say is there anyone who prefers Emacs to XEmacs on an X terminal? With the extra nice features of XEmacs, I wonder why anyone would continue to use the ugly-and-hard-to-use version. - Kris
Re: emacs or xemacs ?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: I still use emacs for some things that I haven't figured out how to get vim to do. Xemacs has extra buttons on the screen, which take up screen space. The last line on the terminal in vi takes more than enough, I don't want to give up even more . . . also, using emacs on CCIE (*Control Key In Exile) keyboard, causing enough long reaches on my little finger sthat I had to see a quack, is probably part (put a minor part) of my avoiding either. Well seeing, as you are comparing vim to emacs here. I have used vim for a long time, and like it because: - it is fast to load. - I can remember the keystrokes - I like to be able to do things like c/hello which will change all the text up to the next set of quotes with the word hello (it does get messy if you want to replace an entire C string though, and the C string contains nested ''). I haven't worked out if this is possible with emacs. - no need to learn LISP. - built in support for DOS text mode format. On the downside: - autoindent, especially in text mode, messes up X-Windows paste operations - ie it autoindents. I try to undo with u, but it removes a lot more then I wanted :-(. So I have to undo the undo (redo), and manually delete the problem lines. I haven't yet noticed this problem in emacs, but it might just mean I haven't found it yet. - frequently paste data into a text mode vim editor, when it is in command mode... :-(. - I start typing in text to find it is in command mode, or start typing in commands to find it is in data mode. Yes, I have set up vim so that this is clearly marked, but often I type without thinking. If you look through any draft documents I type, you will see an occasional 'i', where I tried to go into insert mode, but never noticed it already was in insert mode. Recently I have started using emacs and xemacs again. I can't see much difference myself, so I just use xemacs, sometimes with (-nw), sometimes without. The things I like about emacs are: - very customizable. However, with xemacs it is often difficult to know what some of the options on the config menus do (maybe this has changed in xemacs 21, I have never tried it). - has built in support for special features, eg Supercite will automatically handle citations in LaTeX files. - has built in news reader and mailer. Currently I am experimenting with Gnus. I have mixed feelings about it. Sometime I may try Mews. On the downside: - hard to remember exact key stroke, unless you use it frequently. For instance, to change to another buffer, is it C-x C-b or C-x b? I always try the wrong one first (buffer listing). Other times, I am way off, eg to find a parent article in gnus, I type R A instead of A R. R is the command for reply... - I use an Ultrix DECstation a lot. The Meta key on Ultrix, is in about the same position as the Ctrl key on IBM keyboards... To exit, I frequently am typing M-x M-c instead of C-x C-c. Often when I start to type the wrong command, it is difficult for me to abort. Sometimes Ctrl+G works, other times Esc Esc Esc works. Sometimes aborting has unwanted side-effects, eg closing all windows but the active one. I find this really annoying. - no redo command??? - just how do you use the menus from text mode? I don't particular care what editor I use, just as long as it gets the job done efficiently. -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: emacs or xemacs ?
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 11:32:42AM +1000, Brian May wrote: - has built in news reader and mailer. Currently I am experimenting with Gnus. I have mixed feelings about it. Sometime I may try Mews. Gnus and it's adaptive scoring are about the only thing that makes most Usenet readable for me. Every time I'm tempted to save some disk space and use vi (well, vim) exclusively it is Gnus that convinces me to keep (X)Emacs around. - hard to remember exact key stroke, unless you use it frequently. For instance, to change to another buffer, is it C-x C-b or C-x b? I always try the wrong one first (buffer listing). Other times, I am way off, eg to find a parent article in gnus, I type R A instead of A R. R is the command for reply... I often find myself falling back on M-x function-name and apropos when I don't know what I'm doing. The exception is Gnus, where the menus are pretty comprehensive so I tend to use them. - I use an Ultrix DECstation a lot. The Meta key on Ultrix, is in about the same position as the Ctrl key on IBM keyboards... To exit, I frequently am typing M-x M-c instead of C-x C-c. Often when I start to type the wrong command, it is difficult for me to abort. Sometimes Ctrl+G works, other times Esc Esc Esc works. Sometimes aborting has unwanted side-effects, eg closing all windows but the active one. I find this really annoying. Remap the keyboard on one of them? The wierd effects when aborting sound like bugs, though... - just how do you use the menus from text mode? IIRC it starts by hitting F10 under Emacs. Don't know about XEmacs. There's a writeup in the manual. I don't particular care what editor I use, just as long as it gets the job done efficiently. AOL. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpaSiXLr8gfx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: emacs or xemacs ?
Kristopher Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I honestly don't mean to start a holy war here, but I'd like to know: Is there anyone who prefers Emacs to XEmacs, and why? I prefer Emacs To Xemacs. I can't really give a specific reason; my early experience with Lucid Emacs (from whence Xemacs comes) left a bad taste in my mouth. I got the impression that the developers were rather too eager to implement whizzy new features without really thinking all that carefully about the elegance of the result (the `Netscape' school of programming). The Xemacs' group rather selfish position on source-code assignments (so that the FSF can use their changes) also makes me reluctant to support them in any way. Of course, I'd like to have pictures in my w3 buffers, but ... not that much! -Miles -- Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come. --Nietzsche
Re: emacs or xemacs ?
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 07:32:22PM -0400, Kristopher Johnson wrote: Jakob 'sparky' Kaivo wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Juli-Manel Merino Vidal wrote: Hi all, where can I found a document describing the differences between emacs and xemacs ? Thanks. Check the XEmacs web page: http://www.xemacs.org/ You might also look at the Emacs web pages: Official: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs.html Unofficial: http://www.emacs.org/ I honestly don't mean to start a holy war here, but I'd like to know: Is there anyone who prefers Emacs to XEmacs, and why? - Kris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null I prefer XEmacs to Emacs because of several features. I find configuring it is easier, since it has most of the customization options available under a menu. Also, it seems like the program is more oriented towards use under X, taking advantage of the mouse and separate windows for opening files and such. Most importantly, however, is the context-sensitive menus available with XEmacs. For doing SGML editing it's a godsend, being able to right-click anywhere and instantly get a menu of the legal tags available at the point. I also find it helpful for HTML, and somewhat with programming. However I still use Vim for my mail and small file editing, XEmacs is too large to use for every single editing task. Just my $0.02, MBG -- Infinite: Bigger than the biggest thing ever and then some. Much bigger than that in fact, really amazingly immense, a totally stunning size, real wow, that's big, time. Infinity is just so big that, by comparison, bigness itself looks really titchy. Gigantic multiplied by colossal multiplied by staggeringly huge is the sort of concept we're trying to get across here. -Douglas Adams 'The Restaurant at the End of the Universe' pgpxUMYOjqNHW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: emacs or xemacs ?
Miles Bader [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I honestly don't mean to start a holy war here, but I'd like to know: Is there anyone who prefers Emacs to XEmacs, and why? I am trying to stay out of this thread (because discussions like this always become holy wars) but I couldn't let this one pass. The Xemacs' group rather selfish position on source-code assignments (so that the FSF can use their changes) also makes me reluctant to support them in any way. Even if selfishness were a proper descriptions of motivations of previous XEmacs maintainers (which it isn't) then may I remark that almost all of the people who work on XEmacs in some major way have copyright assignments on file at the FSF and people who contribute to XEmacs are all encouraged to do so (although it is not a requirement). Jan (@xemacs.org).
Re: emacs or xemacs ?
Jakob 'sparky' Kaivo wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Juli-Manel Merino Vidal wrote: Hi all, where can I found a document describing the differences between emacs and xemacs ? Thanks. Check the XEmacs web page: http://www.xemacs.org/ You might also look at the Emacs web pages: Official: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs.html Unofficial: http://www.emacs.org/ I honestly don't mean to start a holy war here, but I'd like to know: Is there anyone who prefers Emacs to XEmacs, and why? - Kris
Re: emacs or xemacs ?
I do. Why? Mostly don't know. Just familiar with it. At one time it was impossible to get both to work properly on the same system. I did not want to give up emacs for XEmacs. There were several things that did not work in XEmacs, when I first installed and I did not have the patience to find out why. If I had more time, maybe! Some of the keystrokes are different, etc, etc... The reason such questions frequently cause holy wars is that a text editor tends to become the extension of the user. Once you learn vi, you do not want to change. Once you learn emacs, you don't want to change. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kristopher Johnson) writes: I honestly don't mean to start a holy war here, but I'd like to know: Is there anyone who prefers Emacs to XEmacs, and why? -- *** Running Debian Linux *** * For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, * * that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16 * * W. Paul Mills * Topeka, Kansas, U.S.A. * * EMAIL= [EMAIL PROTECTED] * WWW= http://Mills-USA.com/ * * Bill, I was there several years ago, why would I want to go back? * * pgp public key on keyservers everywhere? */ --
Re: emacs or xemacs ?
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 07:32:22PM -0400, Kristopher Johnson wrote: I honestly don't mean to start a holy war here, but I'd like to know: Is there anyone who prefers Emacs to XEmacs, and why? I use emacs when I'm in a text terminal (like right now) because I haven't figured out how to use Xemacs' menus from the text terminal and some of the functions of Xemacs (e.g., syntax highlighting) seem inaccessible without mouse access to the proper menus. In addition, the cut and paste works differently in Xemacs (in a text terminal) than in any other text-based program, and it always messes with me. I am sure that these things are configureable, but I haven't found them and I don't feel like learning Lisp and reading the source. This preference means that I use emacs -nw to write email from mutt, even in X. Sometimes I load X just to use Xemacs. And I'm hoping now that someone will answer me with do this to fix those problems, HAND. So apparently I prefer Xemacs. Rob -- Santa Claus is watching!
Re: emacs or xemacs ?
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 02:17:53AM -0400, Rob Mahurin wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 07:32:22PM -0400, Kristopher Johnson wrote: I honestly don't mean to start a holy war here, but I'd like to know: Is there anyone who prefers Emacs to XEmacs, and why? I use emacs when I'm in a text terminal (like right now) because I haven't figured out how to use Xemacs' menus from the text terminal and some of the functions of Xemacs (e.g., syntax highlighting) seem inaccessible without mouse access to the proper menus. In addition, the cut and paste works differently in Xemacs (in a text terminal) than in any other text-based program, and it always messes with me. I am sure that these things are configureable, but I haven't found them and I don't feel like learning Lisp and reading the source. This preference means that I use emacs -nw to write email from mutt, even in X. try this for giggles here are snippets from .muttrc and .emacs_mutt.el I run this in a transparent aterm with yellow text and on a dark background (I tell you this because that colors I have below will look really nasty if you're one of those black-on-white people :). -Michael .muttrc ## set editor=xemacs -nw -q -l /home/einstein/mstenner/.emacs_mutt.el color hdrdefault cyandefault color indicator black green color markersyellow red color tree green default color status black green color quoted green default color signature magenta default ## .emacs_mutt.el # ;; -*- lisp -*- ; this is where I put my private lisp stuff (setq load-path (cons /home/einstein/mstenner/lib/lisp/ load-path)) (setq mouse-yank-at-point t) ; mouse insert where cursor is (line-number-mode 1) (column-number-mode 1) (setq scroll-step 10) (keyboard-translate ?\C-h ?\C-?) (keyboard-translate ?\C-? ?\C-h) (setq default-major-mode 'text-mode) ; turn on text-mode (sort of) ; turn on auto-fill (setq text-mode-hook '(lambda () (auto-fill-mode 1))) ; don't clutter with ~ files --- put them in .trash/ (defun make-backup-file-name (file) (concat /home/einstein/mstenner/.trash/ (file-name-nondirectory file) ~)) (defun backup-file-name-p (file) (string-match \\~$ file)) ; allows font-locking even on the terminal (if (eq 'tty (device-type)) (set-device-class nil 'color)) ; general color config (set-face-background 'modeline black) (set-face-background 'modeline green) ; here is where I associate faces with regex patterns. (defconst text-font-lock-keywords '( (^On .* . font-lock-variable-name-face) ; inital reply line (^ .* . font-lock-comment-face) ; quoted message ) Subdued level highlighting for Mutt mode.) (font-lock-mode) ; turn on font-lock-mode ; cyan blue magenta red green yellow white black == good color options ; Here is where I associate colors with faces (set-face-foreground 'font-lock-variable-name-face cyan) ; inital reply line (set-face-foreground 'font-lock-comment-face green) ; quoted message # -- Michael Stenner Office Phone: 919-660-2513 Duke University, Dept. of Physics [EMAIL PROTECTED] Box 90305, Durham N.C. 27708-0305
Re: emacs or xemacs ?
Kris Kried, I honestly don't mean to start a holy war here, but I'd like to know: Is there anyone who prefers Emacs to XEmacs, and why? If you change prefer to dislike less, then me :) I still use emacs for some things that I haven't figured out how to get vim to do. Xemacs has extra buttons on the screen, which take up screen space. The last line on the terminal in vi takes more than enough, I don't want to give up even more . . . also, using emacs on CCIE (*Control Key In Exile) keyboard, causing enough long reaches on my little finger sthat I had to see a quack, is probably part (put a minor part) of my avoiding either. I want to do it, whatever it is, with as few keystrokes as possible, and without my keys leaving the keyboard to grab a mouse (though I use it to cut paste for editing.) And I want *all* of my screen real estate, so I stay away from xemacs (and anything made by microsoft after about '93) hawk --
Re: emacs or xemacs ?
Richard E. Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: also, using emacs on CCIE (*Control Key In Exile) keyboard, causing enough long reaches on my little finger sthat I had to see a quack, is probably part (put a minor part) of my avoiding either. You probably know this, but you can easily remap caps-lock etc. to be control... Also, you can get a better keyboard for about $3 at goodwill here. Of course that still won't help you if you prefer vim ... nothing will : (holy-war-aversion-disclaimer: Yes, that was a joke, and yes, I prefer emacs, but no, I don't think it's for everyone, and yes, I have used vi (minimally), and can understand the appeal.) FWIW -- Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: emacs or xemacs ?
rob rote, Richard E. Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: also, using emacs on CCIE (*Control Key In Exile) keyboard, causing enough long reaches on my little finger sthat I had to see a quack, is probably part (put a minor part) of my avoiding either. You probably know this, but you can easily remap caps-lock etc. to be control... Also, you can get a better keyboard for about $3 at goodwill here. Of course that still won't help you if you prefer vim ... nothing will : Yep. But at the time, I was either on a non-unix machine using telnet, or at a decstation that I couldn't do that to. As for the mac running macbsd, ignore those rumors that I did something to the keyboard. But that little piece of plastic that I found in my desk sure looks like the toggle piece in the capslock on a mac keyboard might look like--but since I'd never open a university keyboard, I wouldn't know :) --
Re: emacs or xemacs ?
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 02:17:53AM -0400, Rob Mahurin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use emacs when I'm in a text terminal (like right now) because I haven't figured out how to use Xemacs' menus from the text terminal and some of the functions of Xemacs (e.g., syntax highlighting) seem inaccessible without mouse access to the proper menus. In addition, the cut and paste works differently in Xemacs (in a text terminal) than in any other text-based program, and it always messes with me. I am sure that these things are configureable, but I haven't found them and I don't feel like learning Lisp and reading the source. I'm not sure how to access the menus in a terminal, or why you'd even want to, so I can't help with that. As far as the syntax highlighting and cut-and-paste behavior go, here are the relevant snippets of my .emacs. This tells XEmacs to always use the maximum amount of syntax highlighting with colors rather than fonts, and to have mouse middle-clicks paste wherever the cursor is rather than where the mouse is clicked. I believe that's what you were looking for. (custom-set-variables '(mouse-yank-at-point t) '(font-lock-use-fonts nil) '(font-lock-use-colors t) '(font-lock-maximum-size 256000)) (setq-default font-lock-maximum-decoration t) (require 'font-lock) (custom-set-faces) -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping. --Friedrich Nietzsche pgpU2nTYN086m.pgp Description: PGP signature
emacs or xemacs ?
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Re: emacs or xemacs ?
On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Juli-Manel Merino Vidal wrote: Hi all, where can I found a document describing the differences between emacs and xemacs ? Thanks. Check the XEmacs web page: http://www.xemacs.org/ You might also look at the Emacs web pages: Official: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs.html Unofficial: http://www.emacs.org/ -- Jakob 'sparky' Kaivo - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ndn.net/ As time goes on, my signature gets shorter and shorter... - me
Re: Problems with KDE, emacs and xemacs
On Wed, 13 May 1998, Ionut Borcoman wrote: Will Lowe wrote: Can somebody give me a solution: 1. to make EMACS work OK with KDE Play with the default font settings in KDE. Mine did this too, at first, I changed the fonts around a few times, and now it's working fine. I think it has to do partially with the difference between proportional and non-proportional fonts. Yes, I think the same. But I've try with all the fonts from the fontmanager with no success. What are your settings ? Ionutz 2. to change .emacs to work with XEMACS. Someone just posted a test for emacs version. I also keep extra font-lock settings and stuff around in a .xemacs-extras and do a load-file on them if .emacs determines that we're really running xemacs. Why should I test it ? If I simply go to the menu and give Help-Ahow version... it responds it's a GNU Emacs 20.2.2. Is this important ? To conditionally run different sections of the .emacs file. /*** Running Debian Linux *** * For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, * * that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16 * * W. Paul Mills* Topeka, Kansas, U.S.A.* * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://homepage.midusa.net/~wpmills/ * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.networksplus.net/wpmills/ * * Bill, I was there several years ago, why would I want to go back? * / -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, Yesterday I've downloaded the new KDE beta 4. After some struggling, I was able to start it. But, when I start EMACS, the text is all wrong (I think it uses wrong fonts). The XEMACS works OK with fonts, but doesn't like the .emacs and other lisp files that worked OK with EMACS. Can somebody give me a solution: 1. to make EMACS work OK with KDE or 2. to change .emacs to work with XEMACS. The XEMACS complains at lines like ;; Redefine some keys. (setq kill-whole-line t); Kill EOL too (global-set-key [kp-home] 'beginning-of-line) (global-set-key [kp-end] 'end-of-line) (global-set-key [home] 'beginning-of-line) (global-set-key [end] 'end-of-line) (global-set-key [C-home] 'beginning-of-buffer) (global-set-key [C-end] 'end-of-buffer) (global-set-key [S-delete] 'clipboard-kill-region) (global-set-key [S-insert] 'clipboard-yank) (global-set-key [C-insert] 'clipboard-kill-ring-save) (global-set-key [S-right] 'set-mark-command) (global-set-key [f1] 'goto-line) ; goto line (global-set-key [delete] 'delete-char) ; delete character under cursor (global-set-key [f4] 'indent-three-spaces) ; indent 3 spaces (global-set-key [f8] 'kill-current-line) ; delete current line (global-set-key [?\C-z] 'undo); added here because I usually do kills by mistake (global-set-key \C-x\C-j 'goto-line) ; Command prompts for linenumber to go to. It says Invalid (FSF Emacs) key format (see doc of define-key): C-home I can hand-fix some of these, but I have a lot of .el files and it seems absurd to me to do this for all of them. Also, I would be glad if you can share a solution that will make the .emacs files useable for both EMACS and XEMACS (if that's possible). Thanks, Ionutz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Why not make a test expression on emacs-version? For example: (if (string-equal emacs-version 20.2.2) (print hello, 20.2.2 user)) Ionut Borcoman wrote: Hi, Yesterday I've downloaded the new KDE beta 4. After some struggling, I was able to start it. But, when I start EMACS, the text is all wrong (I think it uses wrong fonts). The XEMACS works OK with fonts, but doesn't like the .emacs and other lisp files that worked OK with EMACS. Can somebody give me a solution: 1. to make EMACS work OK with KDE or 2. to change .emacs to work with XEMACS. The XEMACS complains at lines like ;; Redefine some keys. (setq kill-whole-line t); Kill EOL too (global-set-key [kp-home] 'beginning-of-line) (global-set-key [kp-end] 'end-of-line) (global-set-key [home] 'beginning-of-line) (global-set-key [end] 'end-of-line) (global-set-key [C-home] 'beginning-of-buffer) (global-set-key [C-end] 'end-of-buffer) (global-set-key [S-delete] 'clipboard-kill-region) (global-set-key [S-insert] 'clipboard-yank) (global-set-key [C-insert] 'clipboard-kill-ring-save) (global-set-key [S-right] 'set-mark-command) (global-set-key [f1] 'goto-line) ; goto line (global-set-key [delete] 'delete-char) ; delete character under cursor (global-set-key [f4] 'indent-three-spaces) ; indent 3 spaces (global-set-key [f8] 'kill-current-line) ; delete current line (global-set-key [?\C-z] 'undo); added here because I usually do kills by mistake (global-set-key \C-x\C-j 'goto-line) ; Command prompts for linenumber to go to. It says Invalid (FSF Emacs) key format (see doc of define-key): C-home I can hand-fix some of these, but I have a lot of .el files and it seems absurd to me to do this for all of them. Also, I would be glad if you can share a solution that will make the .emacs files useable for both EMACS and XEMACS (if that's possible). Thanks, Ionutz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Can somebody give me a solution: 1. to make EMACS work OK with KDE Play with the default font settings in KDE. Mine did this too, at first, I changed the fonts around a few times, and now it's working fine. I think it has to do partially with the difference between proportional and non-proportional fonts. 2. to change .emacs to work with XEMACS. Someone just posted a test for emacs version. I also keep extra font-lock settings and stuff around in a .xemacs-extras and do a load-file on them if .emacs determines that we're really running xemacs. Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | |PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey| -- | You think you're so smart, but I've seen you naked | | and I'll prob'ly see you naked again ... | | --The Barenaked Ladies, Blame It On Me | -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Will Lowe wrote: Can somebody give me a solution: 1. to make EMACS work OK with KDE Play with the default font settings in KDE. Mine did this too, at first, I changed the fonts around a few times, and now it's working fine. I think it has to do partially with the difference between proportional and non-proportional fonts. Yes, I think the same. But I've try with all the fonts from the fontmanager with no success. What are your settings ? Ionutz 2. to change .emacs to work with XEMACS. Someone just posted a test for emacs version. I also keep extra font-lock settings and stuff around in a .xemacs-extras and do a load-file on them if .emacs determines that we're really running xemacs. Why should I test it ? If I simply go to the menu and give Help-Ahow version... it responds it's a GNU Emacs 20.2.2. Is this important ? Ionutz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes, I think the same. But I've try with all the fonts from the fontmanager with no success. What are your settings ? Not the fontmanager. From the K^ in the lower left of the panel: Settings-Desktop-Fonts ect. I've got General font set to helvetica, 12 pt, iso-8859-1 and Fixed font set to fixed, 10 pt, iso-8859-1. good luck. Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | |PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey| -- | You think you're so smart, but I've seen you naked | | and I'll prob'ly see you naked again ... | | --The Barenaked Ladies, Blame It On Me | -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can emacs and xemacs coexist?
Christian Weisgerber wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], shaul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
By the way, how can I tell the aliases in my .bashrc to work only when I am
using X (I don't need xemacs -geometry 87x28 when I am not using X) ?
Use a function such as
xemacs() {
if [ -n $DISPLAY ]; then
command xemacs -geometry 87x28 $@
else
command xemacs $@
fi
}
I believe that this could also be accomplished (in a simpler but less
interesting way) by setting the geometry resource in your ~/.Xdefaults
file. Something like the line emacs.geometry: 87x28, though I
double check that.
HTH,
Keith
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Re: Can emacs and xemacs coexist?
You can use xemacs in a VT. I've got xemacs installed on my stable Debian 1.3.1, and it works just fine, but I want to use emacs for file viewing and manipulation in a normal console because I don't like vi. I tried to install emacs in dselect but it tells me I have to take components of xemacs out, because they conflict. Is this a small conflict that would be OK to force using dpkg, or do I have to choose between them? By the way, how can I tell the aliases in my .bashrc to work only when I am using X (I don't need xemacs -geometry 87x28 when I am not using X) ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
By the way, how can I tell the aliases in my .bashrc to work only when I am
using X (I don't need xemacs -geometry 87x28 when I am not using X) ?
Use a function such as
xemacs() {
if [ -n $DISPLAY ]; then
command xemacs -geometry 87x28 $@
else
command xemacs $@
fi
}
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Tristan Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: TD I've got xemacs installed on my stable Debian 1.3.1, and it works TD just fine, but I want to use emacs for file viewing and TD manipulation in a normal console because I don't like vi. I tried TD to install emacs in dselect but it tells me I have to take TD components of xemacs out, because they conflict. Is this a small TD conflict that would be OK to force using dpkg, or do I have to TD choose between them? I can't answer your question directly, but: -- You _can_ use xemacs on the console; try xemacs file. -- Debian 2.0 deals with this properly, and if everything works properly you can have no less than four Emacsen simultaneously present on your system, and they'll all work properly. -- _ / \ Dad was reading a book called | David Maze | _Schroedinger's Kittens_. Asexual | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | reproduction? Only one cat is in the box. | http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/ | -- Abra Mitchell \_/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tristan Day wrote: I've got xemacs installed on my stable Debian 1.3.1, and it works just fine, but I want to use emacs for file viewing and manipulation in a normal console because I don't like vi. I tried to install emacs in dselect but it tells me I have to take components of xemacs out, because they conflict. Is this a small conflict that would be OK to force using dpkg, or do I have to choose between them? xemacs (when run with the -nw flag) will run in a normal console as you desire. HTH, Keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Emacs and Xemacs
Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, you can. It depends which versions you use. But I'm not sure if it is possible with 1.3, ... In bo, they conflict. If you do not mind, install both with force options. They overlap in some exec utils like ctags, etc. Not a real trouble. Install later the one you would like to be completely OK. In hamm, they do not conflict anymore. -- Alair Pereira do Lago [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ime.usp.br/~alair Computer Science Department -- Universidade de S~ao Paulo -- Brazil -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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Is there a way to install emacs and xemacs on debian. I can't install both because it conflicts with each other. There must be a way to have both on my computer. Thanks -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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Hi you can not install both, I think is because it uses same resources or something like that. On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Chi Wong wrote: Is there a way to install emacs and xemacs on debian. I can't install both because it conflicts with each other. There must be a way to have both on my computer. Thanks -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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Actually, you can. It depends which versions you use. But I'm not sure if it is possible with 1.3, ... On Mon, Oct 13, 1997 at 05:54:16PM -0400, Daniel Howe wrote: Hi you can not install both, I think is because it uses same resources or something like that. On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Chi Wong wrote: Is there a way to install emacs and xemacs on debian. I can't install both because it conflicts with each other. There must be a way to have both on my computer. Thanks -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god. Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Emacs and Xemacs on same system
I know I have read something about the possibility of running emacs and
xemacs on the same system, but at that time I did not consider trying it
out.
Is it possible?
Yes.
If so, how do I get around dselect's refusal to install both?
Use the versions from ``unstable'', they don't conflict.
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On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Paul Miller wrote: I just installed Debian 1.3.1 and it wouldn't let me install emacs AND xemacs... one or the other. How can I get both on my system? Most probably you don't want both of them. XEmacs has more features than GNU Emacs (if running under X), but hogs system resources even more. In text mode, they're equivalent. Personally, I have a Pentium with 32 MB RAM so I use XEmacs. Makes the GNUSCAPE (w3el) browser very good. // Jonas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2:201/262.37] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just installed Debian 1.3.1 and it wouldn't let me install emacs AND xemacs... one or the other. How can I get both on my system? The cleaner way is to install the new versions from hamm. You can also install xemacs then install emacs with dpkg --force-conflicts and they will work (some bin utilities of xemacs will be overwritten, like ctags) -- Alair Pereira do Lago [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ime.usp.br/~alair Computer Science Department -- Universidade de S~ao Paulo -- Brazil -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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Re: Emacs and XEmacs
On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Esa Turtiainen wrote: I'd like to use both Emacs and XEmacs at the same time. Are there plans to allow this in the future. I have heard that people have patched this to work. Extract the binary data files from all needed xemacs*.deb or emacs*.deb files with ar p packetname.deb data.tar.gz packetname.tar.gz and install the wanted version manually under the /usr/local/ hierarchy, which is left alone for your private purposes. Works quite well here at my box. Ciao, P. *8^) -- Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany Our AMA Homepage in the WWW at http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
