Re: How to switch to text mode
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 23:46:57 -0800 Freddy Freeloader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can tell the difference in browsing speed on my machines if my ISP's network gets congested, with Mozilla or Firefox. If browsing slows down to anywhere near dialup speeds I can ping the local gateway for a couple of minutes and see latencies that are consistently much higher than normal every time. I don't have all that fast of a connection, 3 mb/s, or very fast machines, 1ghz Pentium 3's on my old servers. 3 milibits/sec? :))) Come on, 3Mb would be ~360 kB/s! Of course you see the difference to dial up speeds, that's almost 100 times faster!!! The reason I wouldn't run a gui by default is that these old machines don't have a lot of memory in them, and a gui eats a lot of resources so I only use one occasionally and then shut it down after I'm done using it. I prefer using a cli most of the time because it's more flexible and powerful in many respects than a gui, but some things, like a browser, just seem more natural as a graphical interface to me. Maybe it's because I didn't start computing with DOS or Linux, but with a gui. If all you need is browsing, the fastest start you can get is xinit with your browser instead of an xterm (I don't remember what config file to change, maybe .xinitrc?). But you won't be able to run anything else. A more flexible solution is to use some minimalistic window manager (fluxbox, ... or even icewm). Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to switch to text mode
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 11:04:14AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: If all you need is browsing, the fastest start you can get is xinit with your browser instead of an xterm (I don't remember what config file to change, maybe .xinitrc?). But you won't be able to run anything else. A more flexible solution is to use some minimalistic window manager (fluxbox, ... or even icewm). If plain X is not sufficient, I'd recommend wmii. It has a really small footprint in terms of memory usage and depencies; libc6, libx11-6, libxrandr2 plus their respective depencies, but that's it. And also it is a windows manager in the words' sense, because it maximizes the usage of the screen by arranging (managing) your windows. For me it was definitely worth the 1 hour learning time. Never want to miss it anymore. Just my 2¢ Regards -- Marcus Blumhagen Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction. -- Albert Einstein signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to switch to text mode
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 11:04:14AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 23:46:57 -0800 Freddy Freeloader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason I wouldn't run a gui by default is that these old machines don't have a lot of memory in them, and a gui eats a lot of resources so I only use one occasionally and then shut it down after I'm done using it. I prefer using a cli most of the time because it's more flexible and powerful in many respects than a gui, but some things, like a browser, just seem more natural as a graphical interface to me. Maybe it's because I didn't start computing with DOS or Linux, but with a gui. If all you need is browsing, the fastest start you can get is xinit with your browser instead of an xterm (I don't remember what config file to change, maybe .xinitrc?). But you won't be able to run anything else. A more flexible solution is to use some minimalistic window manager (fluxbox, ... or even icewm). yes, ~/.xinitrc something like a single line in it: iceweasel then running startx will give you an x-session with JUST that program and nothing more. when you exit iceweasel, the x-session will die and drop you back to a vt. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to switch to text mode
Paul E Condon wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 04:30:50PM -0800, Francis Healy wrote: Freddy Freeloader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Glenn Becker wrote: Yes, I'd say much more elegant! :^) I'd say - no. Okay! :^) to remove: #update-rc.d -f gdm remove to restore: #update-rc.d gdm defaults I learned something, today, great! TMTOWTDI, I guess. G +-+ Glenn Becker - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org +-+ I guess I do things a different way than everyone else. All I do on the machines I have that have a gui installed, but I'd prefer them to not boot to the gui, is just rename /etc/init.d/gdm to /etc/init.d/gdm.old. Then the all the links at the different run levels don't see the gdm startup script. Then if I was to fire up the gui all I do is type, as root, gdm and hit enter. Is it an elegant solution? No. Is it easy to change if I ever decide I want to boot into the gui? Yes. All I do is rename /etc/init.d/gdm.old to gdm and I'm good to go. You can also put 'exit 0' at the top of the script so that it doesn't execute. I use 'apt-get remove gdm'. When it is not installed, it surely will not run at startup ;-). If you do use this approach, you need to make sure that you also remove kdm, xdm, and any other ?dm. LOL. I suppose that's a solution. However, I occasionally do some browsing when Googling answers to problems on those machines so being able to fire up the gui easily is sort of a must. I do like the update-rc.d solution above though. I just hadn't seen it before. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to switch to text mode
Hello Freddy. Freddy Freeloader, 07.02.2007 17:18: Paul E Condon wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 04:30:50PM -0800, Francis Healy wrote: I use 'apt-get remove gdm'. When it is not installed, it surely will not run at startup ;-). If you do use this approach, you need to make sure that you also remove kdm, xdm, and any other ?dm. LOL. I suppose that's a solution. However, I occasionally do some browsing when Googling answers to problems on those machines so being able to fire up the gui easily is sort of a must. Every desktop environment comes with an starting application/script which can be used to start the environment. (startkde, gnome-session, xfce4-session, …) So you don’t necessarily need a display manager Regards, Mathias -- debian/rules signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: How to switch to text mode
Mathias Brodala wrote: Hello Freddy. Freddy Freeloader, 07.02.2007 17:18: Paul E Condon wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 04:30:50PM -0800, Francis Healy wrote: I use 'apt-get remove gdm'. When it is not installed, it surely will not run at startup ;-). If you do use this approach, you need to make sure that you also remove kdm, xdm, and any other ?dm. LOL. I suppose that's a solution. However, I occasionally do some browsing when Googling answers to problems on those machines so being able to fire up the gui easily is sort of a must. Every desktop environment comes with an starting application/script which can be used to start the environment. (startkde, gnome-session, xfce4-session, …) So you don’t necessarily need a display manager Regards, Mathias This is true. Guess I'm just a creature of habit. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to switch to text mode
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:18:26 -0800 Freddy Freeloader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL. I suppose that's a solution. However, I occasionally do some browsing when Googling answers to problems on those machines so being able to fire up the gui easily is sort of a must. And what's wrong with startx? Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to switch to text mode
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:18:26 -0800 Freddy Freeloader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL. I suppose that's a solution. However, I occasionally do some browsing when Googling answers to problems on those machines so being able to fire up the gui easily is sort of a must. And what's wrong with startx? Regards, Andrei Who said there is anything wrong with it? I didn't. Like I said originally, I guess I just do things a little differently than most do. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to switch to text mode
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:02:57 -0800 Freddy Freeloader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:18:26 -0800 Freddy Freeloader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL. I suppose that's a solution. However, I occasionally do some browsing when Googling answers to problems on those machines so being able to fire up the gui easily is sort of a must. And what's wrong with startx? Regards, Andrei Who said there is anything wrong with it? I didn't. Like I said originally, I guess I just do things a little differently than most do. There is more than one way to do it, of course :) I was merely suggesting an alternative and just 'try startx' would have been too dry (at the moment I can't think of a better word in English). Here's another option also relevant for your initial query. Delete the symlink for gdm, but only from runlevel 2. If you want gui then just do 'init 3'. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to switch to text mode
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 12:42:27PM EST, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:02:57 -0800
Freddy Freeloader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:18:26 -0800
Freddy Freeloader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
LOL. I suppose that's a solution. However, I occasionally do
some browsing when Googling answers to problems on those machines
so being able to fire up the gui easily is sort of a must.
If you are just googling for answers and unless you have a _very_ fast
machine, a text browser such as elinks will take you to solutions a lot
quicker than any gui.
After I subscribed to a reputedly fast broadband connection, I didn't
see any improvement over dialup whatsoever as far as _browsing/surfing_
was concerned. Suspected some dns problem, intially .. but no .. it was
just the incredible sluggishness of mozilla's rendering that was the
problem.
And elinks does know how to invoke a viewer for those rare .jpeg's etc.
that might be relevant to the problem/solution..
No popups .. no commercials .. no flash shock waves et al..
Your choice.
And what's wrong with startx?
Regards,
Andrei
Who said there is anything wrong with it? I didn't. Like I said
originally, I guess I just do things a little differently than most
do.
There is more than one way to do it, of course :) I was merely
suggesting an alternative and just 'try startx' would have been too
dry (at the moment I can't think of a better word in English).
Here's another option also relevant for your initial query. Delete the
symlink for gdm, but only from runlevel 2. If you want gui then just do
'init 3'.
Doesn't the magical Ctrl+Alt+F{1-6} key combo take you back to a text
console when you already have an evil *display-manager running on
vt{6-12} .. ??
Or is the OP simply dissatified with xdm, gdm, kdm, wdm, Co. and has
decided to switch back _for good_ to a more sensible start X solution?
Thanks,
cga.
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Re: How to switch to text mode
On 2/6/07, myusernet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am running xfce4 but I want to boot the system to console instead of gui. What am I supposed to do? Hi, just, go to the /etc/inittab and change this line id:2:initdefault: for this id:3:initdefault: then rename your file SXXgdm or SXXkdm or SXXxdm (only one will be available) in your case will be SXXxdm where XX is a number just change the S for a K example if your file is S13xdm rename it for K13xdm this file should be found in the /etc/rc3.d/ and then restart your PC, if you later want your xfce back just edit the /etc/inittab again and change your line id:3:initdefault: to id:2:initdefault: with this line you are saying Debian you want to start at runlevel 2 instead of 3 and execute the scripts in /etc/rc2.d/ instead of /etc/rc3.d/ should be enough. regards, -- Guillermo Garron Linux IS user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are. (Using FC6, CentOS4.4 and Ubuntu 6.06) http://feeds.feedburner.com/go2linux http://www.go2linux.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to switch to text mode
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 08:22:32PM -0400, Guillermo Garron wrote: this file should be found in the /etc/rc3.d/ and then restart your PC, if you later want your xfce back just edit the /etc/inittab again and change your line id:3:initdefault: to id:2:initdefault: with this line you are saying Debian you want to start at runlevel 2 instead of 3 and execute the scripts in /etc/rc2.d/ instead of /etc/rc3.d/ You shouldn't have to restart, just enter telinit q to have init re-read /etc/inittab. Then telinit 3 will take you to runlevel 3 where your *dm isn't running. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to switch to text mode
On 2/7/07, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 08:22:32PM -0400, Guillermo Garron wrote: this file should be found in the /etc/rc3.d/ and then restart your PC, if you later want your xfce back just edit the /etc/inittab again and change your line id:3:initdefault: to id:2:initdefault: with this line you are saying Debian you want to start at runlevel 2 instead of 3 and execute the scripts in /etc/rc2.d/ instead of /etc/rc3.d/ You shouldn't have to restart, just enter telinit q to have init re-read /etc/inittab. Then telinit 3 will take you to runlevel 3 where your *dm isn't running. thanks! -- Guillermo Garron Linux IS user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are. (Using FC6, CentOS4.4 and Ubuntu 6.06) http://feeds.feedburner.com/go2linux http://www.go2linux.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to switch to text mode
cga2000 wrote:
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 12:42:27PM EST, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:02:57 -0800
Freddy Freeloader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:18:26 -0800
Freddy Freeloader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
LOL. I suppose that's a solution. However, I occasionally do
some browsing when Googling answers to problems on those machines
so being able to fire up the gui easily is sort of a must.
If you are just googling for answers and unless you have a _very_ fast
machine, a text browser such as elinks will take you to solutions a lot
quicker than any gui.
After I subscribed to a reputedly fast broadband connection, I didn't
see any improvement over dialup whatsoever as far as _browsing/surfing_
was concerned. Suspected some dns problem, intially .. but no .. it was
just the incredible sluggishness of mozilla's rendering that was the
problem.
And elinks does know how to invoke a viewer for those rare .jpeg's etc.
that might be relevant to the problem/solution..
No popups .. no commercials .. no flash shock waves et al..
Your choice.
And what's wrong with startx?
Regards,
Andrei
Who said there is anything wrong with it? I didn't. Like I said
originally, I guess I just do things a little differently than most
do.
There is more than one way to do it, of course :) I was merely
suggesting an alternative and just 'try startx' would have been too
dry (at the moment I can't think of a better word in English).
Here's another option also relevant for your initial query. Delete the
symlink for gdm, but only from runlevel 2. If you want gui then just do
'init 3'.
Actually I wasn't the OP'er on this thread. I just commented on how I
dealt with booting into a text console by default, but leaving myself a
way of starting a gui if I desired to use one occasionally. I do most
things from a text console, but when I start Googling for information I
like a graphical browser. I've tried a couple of text-based browsers
and just didn't care for them.
Doesn't the magical Ctrl+Alt+F{1-6} key combo take you back to a text
console when you already have an evil *display-manager running on
vt{6-12} .. ??
Or is the OP simply dissatified with xdm, gdm, kdm, wdm, Co. and has
decided to switch back _for good_ to a more sensible start X solution?
Thanks,
cga.
I can tell the difference in browsing speed on my machines if my ISP's
network gets congested, with Mozilla or Firefox. If browsing slows down
to anywhere near dialup speeds I can ping the local gateway for a couple
of minutes and see latencies that are consistently much higher than
normal every time. I don't have all that fast of a connection, 3 mb/s,
or very fast machines, 1ghz Pentium 3's on my old servers.
The reason I wouldn't run a gui by default is that these old machines
don't have a lot of memory in them, and a gui eats a lot of resources so
I only use one occasionally and then shut it down after I'm done using
it. I prefer using a cli most of the time because it's more flexible
and powerful in many respects than a gui, but some things, like a
browser, just seem more natural as a graphical interface to me. Maybe
it's because I didn't start computing with DOS or Linux, but with a gui.
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How to switch to text mode
I am running xfce4 but I want to boot the system to console instead of gui. What am I supposed to do?
Re: How to switch to text mode
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Re: How to switch to text mode
I am running xfce4 but I want to boot the system to console instead of gui. What am I supposed to do? IIRC you need to go into /etc/rc.d/rc*.d/ and mv 'S99gdm' to 'K99gdm' wherever it appears. Same if you see 'S99kdm' anywhere. This will keep the GUI login splash from starting up. GB +-+ Glenn Becker - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org +-+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to switch to text mode
Ron Johnson wrote: What you do is purge the packages gdm, xdm kdm. You'll only have one of them installed, but I list them all just to be comprehensive. Not quite all; wdm is also a possibility; perhaps others. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to switch to text mode
Glenn Becker wrote: I am running xfce4 but I want to boot the system to console instead of gui. What am I supposed to do? IIRC you need to go into /etc/rc.d/rc*.d/ and mv 'S99gdm' to 'K99gdm' wherever it appears. Same if you see 'S99kdm' anywhere. This will keep the GUI login splash from starting up. Whereas this will work (assuming you're using gdm or kdm instead of xdm or wdm), you'll have to do this for each runlevel. I find it easier to temporarily disable [gkxw]dm by editing /etc/init.d/[gkxw]dm and putting the single line exit 0 as the first non-comment line in the script (or, for ease of finding later, just as the first line). This way you only have to edit one file rather than five or so. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com http://kentwest.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to switch to text mode
Whereas this will work (assuming you're using gdm or kdm instead of xdm or wdm), you'll have to do this for each runlevel. I find it easier to temporarily disable [gkxw]dm by editing /etc/init.d/[gkxw]dm and putting the single line exit 0 as the first non-comment line in the script (or, for ease of finding later, just as the first line). This way you only have to edit one file rather than five or so. Yes, I'd say much more elegant! :^) +-+ Glenn Becker - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org +-+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to switch to text mode
On 2/6/07, Glenn Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whereas this will work (assuming you're using gdm or kdm instead of xdm or wdm), you'll have to do this for each runlevel. I find it easier to temporarily disable [gkxw]dm by editing /etc/init.d/[gkxw]dm and putting the single line exit 0 as the first non-comment line in the script (or, for ease of finding later, just as the first line). This way you only have to edit one file rather than five or so. Yes, I'd say much more elegant! :^) I'd say - no. to remove: #update-rc.d -f gdm remove to restore: #update-rc.d gdm defaults Regards, Atis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes, I'd say much more elegant! :^) I'd say - no. Okay! :^) to remove: #update-rc.d -f gdm remove to restore: #update-rc.d gdm defaults I learned something, today, great! TMTOWTDI, I guess. G +-+ Glenn Becker - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org +-+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to switch to text mode
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:44:33PM +0800, myusernet wrote: I am running xfce4 but I want to boot the system to console instead of gui. What am I supposed to do? While all the others have provided you with various solutions... here's the easy one... ;-P There is a command -- update-rc.d -- that controls these things. If you have a service starting at boot that you want to prevent from starting use the following as root: update-rc.d service remove it may warn you to use -f to force it in which case: update-rc.d -f service remove In your case, if you're using gdm: update-rc.d -f gdm remove this will remove all the symlinks to gdm in all the runlevels so that gdm will not start at boot-up. If you want to put it back later: update-rc.d gdm defaults please see man update-rc.d for details. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to switch to text mode
On 2/6/07, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:44:33PM +0800, myusernet wrote: In your case, if you're using gdm: update-rc.d -f gdm remove this will remove all the symlinks to gdm in all the runlevels so that gdm will not start at boot-up. If you want to put it back later: update-rc.d gdm defaults please see man update-rc.d for details. I was faster :D Btw, if you later want to start it once, you can use #/etc/init.d/gdm start Regards, Atis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to switch to text mode
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 06:21:36PM +0200, Atis wrote: On 2/6/07, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:44:33PM +0800, myusernet wrote: In your case, if you're using gdm: update-rc.d -f gdm remove this will remove all the symlinks to gdm in all the runlevels so that gdm will not start at boot-up. If you want to put it back later: update-rc.d gdm defaults please see man update-rc.d for details. I was faster :D dang, I know. That's what I get for both fixing breakfast *AND* writing emails at the same time... too slow... ;-) A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to switch to text mode
Glenn Becker wrote: Yes, I'd say much more elegant! :^) I'd say - no. Okay! :^) to remove: #update-rc.d -f gdm remove to restore: #update-rc.d gdm defaults I learned something, today, great! TMTOWTDI, I guess. G +-+ Glenn Becker - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org +-+ I guess I do things a different way than everyone else. All I do on the machines I have that have a gui installed, but I'd prefer them to not boot to the gui, is just rename /etc/init.d/gdm to /etc/init.d/gdm.old. Then the all the links at the different run levels don't see the gdm startup script. Then if I was to fire up the gui all I do is type, as root, gdm and hit enter. Is it an elegant solution? No. Is it easy to change if I ever decide I want to boot into the gui? Yes. All I do is rename /etc/init.d/gdm.old to gdm and I'm good to go. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 06:03:43PM +0200, Atis wrote: [...] to remove: #update-rc.d -f gdm remove [...] Although this way is quite fast, one would have to do it again everytime an upgrade of [gkwx]dm happens, since there will be no symlinks in /etc/rc*.d. But if there were KNN[gkwx]dm links in the appropriate /etc/rc*.d invoke-rc.d would do nothing. My solution is to use sysv-rc-conf. It is a small package and provides a simple interface. Just type sysv-rc-conf as root, choose the default runlevel and scroll to the line with the service and remove the X. My 2¢ Marcus signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to switch to text mode
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 03:08:37PM +, Glenn Becker wrote: I am running xfce4 but I want to boot the system to console instead of gui. What am I supposed to do? IIRC you need to go into /etc/rc.d/rc*.d/ and mv 'S99gdm' to 'K99gdm' wherever it appears. Same if you see 'S99kdm' anywhere. This will keep the GUI login splash from starting up. I thought that the gdm/kdm was run from a different runlevel that '2', like '3'. I've never used a dm so don't know. If so, couldn't you just edit the initdefault line from 3 back to 2 and then do init q? Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to switch to text mode (correction)
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:55:46PM +0100, Marcus Blumhagen wrote: Although this way is quite fast, one would have to do it again everytime an upgrade of [gkwx]dm happens, since there will be no symlinks in /etc/rc*.d. But if there were KNN[gkwx]dm links in the appropriate /etc/rc*.d invoke-rc.d would do nothing. Actually I meant update-rc.d (not invoke-rc.d) which might be called in postinst scripts. Also man update-rc.d says: [...] Please note that this program was designed for use in package maintainer scripts and, accordingly, has only the very limited functionality required by such scripts. System administrators are not encouraged to use update-rc.d to manage runlevels. They should edit the links directly or use runlevel editors such as sysv-rc-conf and bum instead. [...] Regards Marcus signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to switch to text mode
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 06:01:04PM -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 03:08:37PM +, Glenn Becker wrote: I am running xfce4 but I want to boot the system to console instead of gui. What am I supposed to do? IIRC you need to go into /etc/rc.d/rc*.d/ and mv 'S99gdm' to 'K99gdm' wherever it appears. Same if you see 'S99kdm' anywhere. This will keep the GUI login splash from starting up. I thought that the gdm/kdm was run from a different runlevel that '2', like '3'. I've never used a dm so don't know. If so, couldn't you just edit the initdefault line from 3 back to 2 and then do init q? Doug. Although many folks has come to expect what RH and others do -- provide different runlevels--Debian so far likes runlevels 2-5 to be setup the same and let a sysadmin change this if they want. Although various users and developers have asked for a change from time to time. so, the default is runlevel 2 and changing it will not make a differnece. - -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keysever: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFyQo7v8UcC1qRZVMRAh5OAJoCHfnjRgwajjK4xuC8F8c14ylOewCfTzTQ SdPrV1sjBVdF2EVA2Zxfkxc= =svoj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to switch to text mode
Freddy Freeloader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Glenn Becker wrote: Yes, I'd say much more elegant! :^) I'd say - no. Okay! :^) to remove: #update-rc.d -f gdm remove to restore: #update-rc.d gdm defaults I learned something, today, great! TMTOWTDI, I guess. G +-+ Glenn Becker - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org +-+ I guess I do things a different way than everyone else. All I do on the machines I have that have a gui installed, but I'd prefer them to not boot to the gui, is just rename /etc/init.d/gdm to /etc/init.d/gdm.old. Then the all the links at the different run levels don't see the gdm startup script. Then if I was to fire up the gui all I do is type, as root, gdm and hit enter. Is it an elegant solution? No. Is it easy to change if I ever decide I want to boot into the gui? Yes. All I do is rename /etc/init.d/gdm.old to gdm and I'm good to go. You can also put 'exit 0' at the top of the script so that it doesn't execute.
Re: How to switch to text mode
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 04:30:50PM -0800, Francis Healy wrote: Freddy Freeloader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Glenn Becker wrote: Yes, I'd say much more elegant! :^) I'd say - no. Okay! :^) to remove: #update-rc.d -f gdm remove to restore: #update-rc.d gdm defaults I learned something, today, great! TMTOWTDI, I guess. G +-+ Glenn Becker - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org +-+ I guess I do things a different way than everyone else. All I do on the machines I have that have a gui installed, but I'd prefer them to not boot to the gui, is just rename /etc/init.d/gdm to /etc/init.d/gdm.old. Then the all the links at the different run levels don't see the gdm startup script. Then if I was to fire up the gui all I do is type, as root, gdm and hit enter. Is it an elegant solution? No. Is it easy to change if I ever decide I want to boot into the gui? Yes. All I do is rename /etc/init.d/gdm.old to gdm and I'm good to go. You can also put 'exit 0' at the top of the script so that it doesn't execute. I use 'apt-get remove gdm'. When it is not installed, it surely will not run at startup ;-). If you do use this approach, you need to make sure that you also remove kdm, xdm, and any other ?dm. -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
