Re: Kobo or Kindle
Hi guys, Regarding the creation of an epub file, I find this link very interesting, and easy to use. http://lukesblog.it/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page Its a openoffice (libreoffice) plugin. Just install it, click on the export epub icon, and you are done. You may want to set the metadata before exporting, just click the other icon installed by the plugin. Mel na chupeta. That's honey in pacifier, or if you prefer, piece of cake. :) Regards, Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher My psychiatrist told me I was crazy. I told him I wanted a second opinion. He told me that I was also ugly. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALuYw2w9h+4PrzZb2LsQ=FFF=09PdSd2dGgyB4=e3ase_kv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Kobo or Kindle
On 29 November 2012 10:13, David Williams da...@acuron.us wrote: Kindle just mounts like a USB Jump drive right? Yes, but I hardly ever use directly from the commandline as a usb-device. I use Calibre to manage the files on my Kindle and it works like a dream. Regards Johann -- Because experiencing your loyal love is better than life itself, my lips will praise you. (Psalm 63:3)
Re: Kobo or Kindle
On 29 November 2012 15:36, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Beco r...@beco.cc wrote: Dear fellows, I have a Kobo and I like it pretty well. One issue I do have is that browsing through a large collection of books is a real pain. You can sort by title or author, but that is it, no support for a folder structure or similar. The Kobo software work well on wine, I think they are supposed to put out a Linux native version at some point (it uses QT4). For Kobo you only need to install their software, not Adobe, though Adobe works ok in Wine as well. Have you tried using Calibre? I did not need any Kindle software on my Debian computer to manage my Kindle. Calibre does it all for me. Kobo at least is pretty terrible for PDFs. Slow, badly sized text, no reflow...Fundamentally PDF is not a good format for ebooks. I don:t know if the experience is better on a Kindle or similar. Same on Kindle except when you format pdf for A6 pages. I had some success converting pdf's to mobi format - escpecially when it was created with latex with hyperref. I think Calibre first try to convert it to html and then to epub or mobi or whatever format you prefer. Can't help with the remote stuff. Maybe Kindle's wispernet would be useful? I have a Kindle Touch. I do not use whispernet, but my local home wifi-network and it works very nicely. I can even send documents by email to the Kindle or even from my Macbook' s Desktop using Amazon's Send to Kindle software. And then you can choose to which Kindle you want to send it. I and my wife have both Kindles registered on the same account at Amazon. Then I also have a software Kindle on my mobile phone and on my macbook. I can use Send-to-Kindle to send a file to all of them. I find it surprising that people are recommending tablets and phones... IMHO phone are next to useless for any serious amount of book reading, they are just too small, and the tablets have the battery life issue. That is what is great about an ereader, you charge it like once a week tops. I charge my Kindle once about once in a month or month and a half. Regards Johann -- Because experiencing your loyal love is better than life itself, my lips will praise you. (Psalm 63:3)
Re: Kobo or Kindle
On 11/30/2012 05:46 AM, Johann Spies wrote: On 29 November 2012 15:36, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com mailto:kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Beco r...@beco.cc wrote: Dear fellows, I have a Kobo and I like it pretty well. One issue I do have is that browsing through a large collection of books is a real pain. You can sort by title or author, but that is it, no support for a folder structure or similar. The Kobo software work well on wine, I think they are supposed to put out a Linux native version at some point (it uses QT4). For Kobo you only need to install their software, not Adobe, though Adobe works ok in Wine as well. Have you tried using Calibre? I did not need any Kindle software on my Debian computer to manage my Kindle. Calibre does it all for me. Kobo at least is pretty terrible for PDFs. Slow, badly sized text, no reflow...Fundamentally PDF is not a good format for ebooks. I don:t know if the experience is better on a Kindle or similar. Same on Kindle except when you format pdf for A6 pages. I had some success converting pdf's to mobi format - escpecially when it was created with latex with hyperref. I think Calibre first try to convert it to html and then to epub or mobi or whatever format you prefer. Can't help with the remote stuff. Maybe Kindle's wispernet would be useful? I have a Kindle Touch. I do not use whispernet, but my local home wifi-network and it works very nicely. I can even send documents by email to the Kindle or even from my Macbook' s Desktop using Amazon's Send to Kindle software. And then you can choose to which Kindle you want to send it. I and my wife have both Kindles registered on the same account at Amazon. Then I also have a software Kindle on my mobile phone and on my macbook. I can use Send-to-Kindle to send a file to all of them. I find it surprising that people are recommending tablets and phones... IMHO phone are next to useless for any serious amount of book reading, they are just too small, and the tablets have the battery life issue. That is what is great about an ereader, you charge it like once a week tops. I charge my Kindle once about once in a month or month and a half. Regards Johann -- Because experiencing your loyal love is better than life itself, my lips will praise you. (Psalm 63:3) The whole DRM issue is a bad joke. I heard that France outlawed them. If you load a copy of Adobe Digital Editions (ADE) and Calibre (both freeware) on to your system and properly set up the software, the DRM is automatically stripped off the document on download and Calibre reformats to any reader you want to use. The instructions are easy to find on the internet. I am not a believer in pirating but there is a limit as to how much screwing over the consumer in this country can tolerate before everyone doesn't care any more. I'm still tinkering around with the whole DRM issue and still have a lot to learn. I do know that DRM's are a pain in the posterior for the customer and do absolutely nothing for copy right protection. My latest fiasco was today when I tried to download a book from my local library. One book I couldn't get because the copy was already loaned out (Yes it was an eBook.) This is unbelievable. I downloaded the other book into my computer directly. That doesn't work. I had to load through ADE. This sent it directly to Calibre which I suspect stripped off all protection. I am supposed to have the book for a week at which point it is supposed to go poof. I'll be interested to see if this happens. I think that you can probably keep a copy of all of your books in Calibre, copy them to disk and tell the suppliers to go to hell. Oner last thing. In defense of Amazon and Barnes and Noble, most of this garbage is coming from the publishers. With the present business model, the publisher sells the book to the distributor who is required to sell be book at the price the publisher dictates. The seller gets 30% of the sale. The US and several European governments are suing several publishing groups (read monopolies) over this practice. I guess the publishers need the money to pay bloated salaries to their top executives and line the pockets of their stock holders. Too bad we don't have capitalism in this country. I died with the Civil War. Gary R.
Re: Kobo or Kindle
Previously I used my Nokia N900 to read ebooks but since I bought my Kindle Touch I was enjoying my reading a lot more. With Calibre I have no problems converting epubs to mobi format and sometimes I even have success converting pdf's to mobi format. Communication with the Kindle from Debian has been without a problem. I use Calibre on a Macbook as well as on my Debian computers. Regards Johann -- Because experiencing your loyal love is better than life itself, my lips will praise you. (Psalm 63:3)
Kobo or Kindle
Dear fellows, Regarding the usage experience of those ereaders on the caput, what you find more compatible do Debian? I know both of them don't have software specifically for linux. I also know I can read Kindle cloud books using a browser. I don't know for Kobo. Also, to use them as an author, what would be the one I would not need windows/mac to use? I see Kobo has Adobe DRM and to share a book I would need to install this software. Adobe page shows me they only offer windows/mac software. And finally, what is the role Calibre would play? I'm completely new to the ereader experience. I'm buying 2, one for me, one for my father. I've never used one before in my life. I wish to accomplish: * Install PDF books, and other formats I already have in my computer HD. * Buy a ebook on computer and save it on ereader. * Being able to move a book from one to another ereader (remotely). * Install a new book remotely when my father asks (he lives in another city). * Write and publish some ebooks. (Using Kile? Calibre? Openoffice?) Thanks any guidance! Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher My psychiatrist told me I was crazy. I told him I wanted a second opinion. He told me that I was also ugly. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALuYw2wVgmCvEGK0zbO4=vakcwgnzp0hwqzqde_1w2rjrkl...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Kobo or Kindle
I'm still quite reserved about the e-readers and waiting for the dust to settle. Early adopters are still getting hit by surprises like this: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121126/18084721154/barnes-noble-decides-that-purchased-ebooks-are-only-yours-until-your-credit-card-expires.shtml Regards, /Lars -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cacq_q0f2xiaq4m0y2zcc4-pv2zt8_-yuhbxazxd+fhtys37...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Kobo or Kindle
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Lars Noodén lars.noo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still quite reserved about the e-readers and waiting for the dust to settle. Early adopters are still getting hit by surprises like this: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121126/18084721154/barnes-noble-decides-that-purchased-ebooks-are-only-yours-until-your-credit-card-expires.shtml I use FBreader on my Nokia N900 and use Calibre on my Debian desktop to manage my library. --b -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cakmzw+y4dhr7sg-h+pjohm-bqwgl+-mfmsqm9chlyul470r...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Kobo or Kindle
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:50:02 +0100 Beco r...@beco.cc wrote: Dear fellows, Regarding the usage experience of those ereaders on the caput, what you find more compatible do Debian? Pocketbook runs on Linux, a Debian flavored one, compatible with many e-reader formats and works with Calibre through a USB interface. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ahmr11f4kl...@mid.individual.net
RE: Kobo or Kindle
Regarding the usage experience of those ereaders on the caput, what you find more compatible do Debian? I know both of them don't have software specifically for linux. I also know I can read Kindle cloud books using a browser. I don't know for Kobo. Also, to use them as an author, what would be the one I would not need windows/mac to use? I see Kobo has Adobe DRM and to share a book I would need to install this software. Adobe page shows me they only offer windows/mac software. And finally, what is the role Calibre would play? I'm completely new to the ereader experience. I'm buying 2, one for me, one for my father. I've never used one before in my life. I wish to accomplish: * Install PDF books, and other formats I already have in my computer HD. * Buy a ebook on computer and save it on ereader. * Being able to move a book from one to another ereader (remotely). * Install a new book remotely when my father asks (he lives in another city). * Write and publish some ebooks. (Using Kile? Calibre? Openoffice?) Thanks any guidance! Beco Kindles are competent, if dull, ereaders, but they do not read books in epub format, which has emerged as the leading standard. Almost any ereader will do, if you can find the book you want to read in its native format. Depending on where you live, you may be able to strip DRM from the book. Doing so would allow you to convert it to any format, and Calibre is good at doing these conversions. However, stripping the DRM may be illegal in your jurisdiction, so beware of that. Calibre is a very good program, and allows you to manage a large library of ebooks. It has plugins, which you can acquire or create yourself. (There are [highly unofficial] plugins for stripping DRM. Do so at your own risk.) The chief advantage of Amazon Kindle, Barnes Noble Nook, Sony Reader, Kobo, and so on (the larger outfits) is that they allow shopping for and downloading of books from the device itself, getting the books from the cloud. Smaller readers may be cheaper or have nifty features, but they require you to get your book from some source and then transfer it to the device, which can be tedious. Calibre is a big help there. Any reader that uses Adobe Digital Editions for DRM is at least compatible with a standard. Note: Some forms of DRM are Adobe epubs, but with a non-standard variation of it. An example of this is BN Nook. Adobe Digital Editions requires Windows. Debian users may be able to use Wine, but I have not tried this myself, so I cannot give advice. Calibre runs well on Debian, and I highly recommend it. The official Debian packages are chronically behind the times and out-of-date. However, the author of Calibre has done a fine job of packaging it for Linux, and installing the latest version directly from the website is safe and recommended. Uninstalling is mainly a matter of deleting the Calibre directory. Creating eBooks from manuscripts is a process. The ebook must be formatted in a generic way, and saved as an HTML document. CSS can be used for formatting, but keep it simple. Then, a publishing converter takes the HTML and generates another HTML document, zipped into a .zip file, with metadata and other resources such as a cover .jpeg. The zipped HTML file can be further converted into an epub or .mobi (Kindle) or other format. Moving ebooks around remotely, if I understand your question, is possible with Calibre. It can act as a server, and you can open a port and make it available on the internet. There are Android apps that work with Calibre server. I am not too familiar with this, since I don't use this feature. What reader would I recommend? Consider an app such fbReader running on a tablet. Get a Google Nexus 7. The 16 GB model is $199. A little steep for an ereader, but it can do a whole lot more. You can always use the Kindle app, or the Kobo app, etc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/017b01cdcd85$d68afdb0$83a0f910$@allums.com
