Re: Re (6): POP3 in Debian
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:21:58 -0700, peasthope wrote: From: =?utf-8?B?Q2FtYWxlw7Nu?= noela...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:48:09 +0100 Sorry if I bothered you. Slightly irked. No scars. ... don't know who ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niklaus_Wirth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal_%28programming_language%29 etc. ... or what company makes the development ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETH_Z%C3%BCrich http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberon_operating_system http://www.oberon.ethz.ch/ Is that a complete OS instead a standalone MUA? Things are getting more complex. ... just a user POV ... It is my page giving information rather than opinion. Oh, it was yours? Sorry, didn't notice O:-) It makes me really doubt :-) What's to doubt? About if it is a bug or user's misconfiguration. Sure, that's why I can put my hand on fire for Oberon. Stick to mutt. I'll take your word because I only can speak for Mutt. Yup, I know. IIRC I reviewed and added some hints for that page ;-) It's still evolving. And getting better. People and rational can't go in the same phrase, they collide Often, yes. Sadly, more than often, I'd say. People is lazy (and unrational) by design and will do whatever cost less for him/her. And Mutt's usability has nothing to do with a webmail in this regard. It's a lost battle. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jg95u6$6o6$3...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Re(4): POP3 in Debian
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:05:46 -0700, peasthope wrote: From: Camaleon noela...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:31:35 + (UTC) So finally, what are you going to do or what are now your plans regarding your original issue? :-? It was fixed last Thursday, January 19 shortly after Aoki rminded me to check with telnet. Documented in the second paragraph here. http://carnot.yi.org/OberonPage.html#Mail; Editing and recompiling in less than 5 minutes. Oh, I see. A bug at the MUA, then? What I can tell is that editing the subject line can make some MUAs (mostly webmails) break the threading style by removing the required references and/or reply-to headers. Use mutt or Oberon. Instructions in http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists pending. Mmm, I'm not that confidence for Oberon but +1 for Mutt. Or better yet, use a newsreader, it's the perfect transport protocol for dealing with mailing lists. But now the hard part: convince people to ditch Gmail|Yahoo|Hotmail webmail's in favor of Mutt or another decent MUA :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jg6h8m$agv$3...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Re (5): POP3 in Debian
El 2012-01-30 a las 09:52 -0700, peasth...@shaw.ca escribió: (resending to the list) From: Camaleon noela...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:41:58 + (UTC) A bug at the MUA, then? Yes. Does http://carnot.yi.org/OberonPage.html#Mail; need more clarity? Sorry if I bothered you. I'm not familiar with that MUA, I don't know who or what company makes the development so I can't tell if that's a trusted source or just a user POV, or... whatever. That and the fact the page starts with: *** This page is a personal collection of notes. For authoritative documentation, please refer to http://www.oberon.ethz.ch/ . *** It makes me really doubt :-) Mmm, I'm not that confidence for Oberon ... For any software, some direct experience is necessary to have a realistic view of efficacy. Sure, that's why I can put my hand on fire for Oberon. It's an unknown/untested piece of software for me. Or better yet, use a newsreader, ... I had a preliminary look a week back and will continue. Thanks. ... convince people to ditch Gmail|Yahoo|Hotmail webmail's ... http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists provides information. Yup, I know. IIRC I reviewed and added some hints for that page ;-) With any luck at all at least some people will make rational choices. People and rational can't go in the same phrase, they collide :-P Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120130184809.ga9...@stt008.linux.site
Re (6): POP3 in Debian
From: =?utf-8?B?Q2FtYWxlw7Nu?= noela...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:48:09 +0100 Sorry if I bothered you. Slightly irked. No scars. ... don't know who ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niklaus_Wirth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal_%28programming_language%29 etc. ... or what company makes the development ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETH_Z%C3%BCrich http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberon_operating_system http://www.oberon.ethz.ch/ ... just a user POV ... It is my page giving information rather than opinion. It makes me really doubt :-) What's to doubt? Sure, that's why I can put my hand on fire for Oberon. Stick to mutt. Yup, I know. IIRC I reviewed and added some hints for that page ;-) It's still evolving. People and rational can't go in the same phrase, they collide Often, yes. Regards,... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 639 0202. bcc: peasthope ... shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/ http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171057406.50554.38986@heaviside.invalid
What´s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)
Jon Dowland j...@debian.org writes: I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail or mpop are options. What´s wrong with fetchmail? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ipk1bffn.fsf...@songoku.yagibdah.de
Re: What´s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)
On 24 Jan 2012, lee wrote: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org writes: I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail or mpop are options. What´s wrong with fetchmail? It's fine if it works for you, but some years ago I had problems authenticting myself to a mail server with fetchmail. I switched to getmail4 and it worked instantly. I can't remember the details now but I've always used getmail4 since them. -- Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk Microsoft-free zone - using Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk - book reviews, articles, blog, and printed books and ebooks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120124101533.ge30...@acampbell.org.uk
Re: What´s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:47 AM, lee l...@songoku.yagibdah.de wrote: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org writes: I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail or mpop are options. What´s wrong with fetchmail? http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/01/msg01476.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=Sy6rx_gÞhdwseampba851brsjoa+bphah_pgw+6w...@mail.gmail.com
Re: What´s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:15:33PM +0200, Anthony Campbell wrote: It's fine if it works for you, but some years ago I had problems authenticting myself to a mail server with fetchmail. I switched to getmail4 and it worked instantly. I can't remember the details now but I've always used getmail4 since them. I have used fetchmail for many years (might be about 15 now). At more than one stage I experimented with getmail which also worked but I always came back to fetchmail. I found getmail a bit more complicated (or maybe it was just 'strange' for me) to configure properly. Regards Johann -- Johann SpiesTelefoon: 021-808 4699 Databestuurder / Data manager Sentrum vir Navorsing oor Evaluasie, Wetenskap en Tegnologie Centre for Research on Evaluation, Science and Technology Universiteit Stellenbosch. Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others. Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus Philippians 2:4,5 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120124104623.ga14...@sun.ac.za
Re: What´s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)
On 24 Jan 2012, Johann Spies wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:15:33PM +0200, Anthony Campbell wrote: It's fine if it works for you, but some years ago I had problems authenticting myself to a mail server with fetchmail. I switched to getmail4 and it worked instantly. I can't remember the details now but I've always used getmail4 since them. I have used fetchmail for many years (might be about 15 now). At more than one stage I experimented with getmail which also worked but I always came back to fetchmail. I found getmail a bit more complicated (or maybe it was just 'strange' for me) to configure properly. Regards Johann Interesting. I found getmail easy to configure, using the examples in the docs as a template. Anyway, this just illustrates one of the nice things about Linux - lots of different ways to get the result you want. -- Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk Microsoft-free zone - using Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk - book reviews, articles, blog, and printed books and ebooks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120124130430.gf30...@acampbell.org.uk
Re: What�s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:15:33AM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 24 Jan 2012, lee wrote: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org writes: I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail or mpop are options. What´s wrong with fetchmail? It's fine if it works for you, but some years ago I had problems authenticting myself to a mail server with fetchmail. I switched to getmail4 and it worked instantly. I can't remember the details now but I've always used getmail4 since them. I'm not sure something that happened to you years ago would justify a recomendation not to use it. -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re(4): POP3 in Debian
* From: peasth...@shaw.ca * Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:31:50 -0800 (POP3 server run by Shaw ISP) - (My Linux router) - (MUA on Oberon workstation). * From: Camale#xF3;n noela...@gmail.com * Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:46:22 + (UTC) That's the most basic setup. Thanks! From: Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 22:17:08 +0200 ... due to your complicated e-mail setup, ... Camale#xF3;n doesn't agree. Oh well. It's the simplest arrangement I've found. Regards, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 639 0202. bcc: peasthope ... shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/ http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171057399.48102.41051@heaviside.invalid
Re(4): POP3 in Debian
From: Camaleon noela...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:31:35 + (UTC) So finally, what are you going to do or what are now your plans regarding your original issue? :-? It was fixed last Thursday, January 19 shortly after Aoki rminded me to check with telnet. Documented in the second paragraph here. http://carnot.yi.org/OberonPage.html#Mail; Editing and recompiling in less than 5 minutes. What I can tell is that editing the subject line can make some MUAs (mostly webmails) break the threading style by removing the required references and/or reply-to headers. Use mutt or Oberon. Instructions in http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists pending. TTFN,... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 639 0202. bcc: peasthope ... shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/ http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171057398.61806.57577@heaviside.invalid
Re: Re(3): POP3 in Debian
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:28:29 -0800 peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: Never been too bothered with spam. Shaw offers filtration and I leave it off. I wonder whether definite spams are caught by Shaw or further upstream. If their SMTP servers are checking for proper DNS and using blacklists, that will deal with almost all spam. If you're downloading only for legitimate recipients and not using a catch-all, that will take out almost all the rest. The overwhelmingly vast majority of spam is the NDR type, sent to deliberately non-existent recipient names. Do I.S.P.s ever routinely check for it in outgoing mail. Don't think so. About half the spam I get from from legitimate SMTP sending servers comes from Google and Yahoo. Yahoo in particular are right on the ball in stopping incoming spam, to the point of impeding people trying to send their customers technical IT instructions, but they don't seem to give a damn what their customers do. But most spam comes directly from compromised domestic computers, not through an ISP's smarthost, so DNS checks catch all that. Lots of small US ISPs (1000 IP addresses) seem happy for their clients to send masses of spam, generally for legal but dubious products. If I get spam from a large company or university, I'll usually let them know, but these small ISPs go straight into the blacklist for the first offence. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120121100722.2c0d2...@jretrading.com
Re: Re(3): POP3 in Debian
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:28:29 -0800, peasthope wrote: * From: Camale#xF3;n noela...@gmail.com * Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:46:22 + (UTC) I've reviewed the messages you have posted in this thread but haven't found a reference on what was your e-mail client :-? In http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/01/msg01548.html; the 4th non-empty line of the body of the message has Oberon Mail (ejz) on PC Native 05.01.2003. I missed/bypassed that, sorry. Maybe because the change of the subject. Then again near the bottom of the message, 4th non-empty line prior to Regards. I see. So did you finally reached to the conclusion that your MUA was the culprit here? Good :-) ... you miss one of the most useful tools for handling today's mailboxes -running your own spamassassin- unless your ISP has a good and fully customizable anti-spam filter. Never been too bothered with spam. Shaw offers filtration and I leave it off. I wonder whether definite spams are caught by Shaw or further upstream. Do I.S.P.s ever routinely check for it in outgoing mail. In any case, I just click away the few that arrive each day. Might consider local filtering one day. There are some ISPs that make a good job (when talking about effectiveness) with their spam filters (e.g., Gmail) but the problem is about configuration. The level of customization it allows a local anti- spam filter is very high and such flexibility can't be obtained with my Gmail account. So finally, what are you going to do or what are now your plans regarding your original issue? :-? Incidentally, someone please have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_email_subject_abbreviations section Iteration of Reply and point out any errors. It's pertinent to http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists page. I've never heard about that. I mean, I'm not aware of any rule or recommendation for writing at the subject line, I've always thought it's free-style or based on the user's preferences. I think what mandates here are the header fields. What I can tell is that editing the subject line can make some MUAs (mostly webmails) break the threading style by removing the required references and/or reply-to headers. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jfe7mn$8j9$3...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Re(3): POP3 in Debian
On Vi, 20 ian 12, 17:28:29, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: Never been too bothered with spam. Shaw offers filtration and I leave it off. I wonder whether definite spams are caught by Shaw or further upstream. Do I.S.P.s ever routinely check for it in outgoing mail. In my experience both Gmail and GMX have some checks. I've been hit by this when bouncing list spam to report-listspam@l.d.o. In any case, I just click away the few that arrive each day. Might consider local filtering one day. You are lucky, I get 50 to 100 spams per day. Gmail does have pretty good filtering, but I do have occasional false negatives and even some false positives. Because of the false positives I do regularly check the Spam folder. Incidentally, someone please have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_email_subject_abbreviations section Iteration of Reply and point out any errors. It's pertinent to http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists page. As far as I understand a mail client should add a Re: on the first reply, but otherwise leave the Subject alone. Some broken clients don't recognize the first Re: (due to case?) and add additional ones. Your messages are the very few I have ever seen to also add a number, which is why I just assumed either your client is broken or it is due to your complicated e-mail setup, but it seems to me that at least mutt knows how to deal with it: ,[ muttrc(5) ] | |reply_regexp | Type: regular expression | Default: “^(re([\[0-9\]+])*|aw):[ \t]*” | | A regular expression used to recognize reply messages when | threading and replying. The default value corresponds to the | English ”Re:” | and the German ”Aw:”. | ` However, I have no RFC to cite, this is just what I have seen on mailing lists and private mail. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Re(2): POP3 in Debian
Hi, On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 08:49:24AM -0800, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: * From: Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org * Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 21:10:34 +0900 Both getmail4 and fetchmail can handle this task well ... According to the Wikipedia, fetchmail can not deliver to mbox. Well by itself ... yes you are right. | fetchmail is a mail-retrieval and forwarding utility; it fetches | mail from remote mailservers and forwards it to your local (client) | machine's delivery system. You can then handle the retrieved mail using | normal mail user agents such as mutt(1), elm(1) or Mail(1). Its all about fetching. You need another program to deliver to ... like procmail/maildrop/... Are you running that qpopper yourself? Not now. It was installed years ago before I learned to simplify configuration. Or connect to remote POP3 site with telnet. That explained the problem in a few minutes. The MUA is putting two blanks between LIST and 1. The Zimbra POP3 server is accepting one blank and not two. My log You mean your log viewing environment. is a variable pitch font and I failed to notice the two blanks. Should have noticed in the Courier font emessage but failed again. The ISP must have changed the POP server last weekend. No public notice and technical support staff were unaware. My telnet session follows in case anyone is interested. Good for you. The real question is who's bus is this. If this is bug on Debian package which is a bit too tight than what RFC allows, please file bug report on Debian. If this is non-RFC complient bug, maybe complain to ISP or Zimba POP3 server developer. ... Now that I understand, the MUA can be changed to send just one blank and interact with the ISP POP3 directly again. I think your usage of MUA is not a typical one. MUA is mutt, thunderbird, ... not POP3 server. Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120120131035.GA9761@localhost
Re: POP3 in Debian
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:38:23 +, Jon Dowland wrote: (...) I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail or mpop are options. Long-time fetchmail user -and lover- here! (me, I mean...) :-) Can you please explain what motivates your above advice? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jfc1ma$rsl$1...@dough.gmane.org
POP3 compliance; was Re(3): POP3 in Debian
* From: Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org * Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 22:10:35 +0900 The real question is who's bug is this. Oberon Mail (ejz) on PC Native 05.01.2003. Fixed and documented here. http://carnot.yi.org/OberonPage.html#Mail; If this is bug on Debian ... Definitely not. Debian was only a possibility as a means of investigating the problem. If this is non-RFC complient bug, maybe complain to ISP or Zimbra POP3 server developer. Until last weekend the ISP POP3 server accepted LIST 1, which doesn't comply to RFC 1939. I hadn't noticed which server was used but infer that last weekend they installed a new server or changed a flag in their Zimbra to strictly enforce the RFC. So without warning LIST 1 was no longer accepted. In any case, I can't complain about enforcement of syntax. The MUAs in MS and *nix systems must have had the strict syntax all along; almost nobody noticed the change. I think your usage of MUA is not a typical one. MUA is the acronym for Mail User Agent. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_user_agent MUA is mutt, thunderbird, ... In my case Oberon Mail (ejz) on PC Native 05.01.2003. ... not POP3 server. Correct. The POP3 server is a Zimbra operated by my ISP, Shaw Cable. Regards, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 639 0202. bcc: peasthope ... shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/; http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary; -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171057396.35481.30574@cantor.invalid
Re: POP3 in Debian
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:49:22 -0800, peasthope wrote: Since the weekend my MUA POP3 connection has failed to receive messages with this appearing in the log. Which MUA? --- POP RCV: +OK pop.shaw.ca SND: USER peasthope RCV: +OK password required for user peasth...@shaw.ca SND: PASS RCV: +OK server ready SND: UIDL RCV: +OK 35 messages SND: LIST 1 RCV: -ERR unable to parse msg SND: RETR 1 RCV: -ERR unable to parse msg SND: QUIT Failure in parsing LIST 1 baffles. How big a problem can parsing of 6 characters be? I have encountered weird problems with a combination of qmail (server) and some bad formatted e-mail messages (most of them spam) when retrieved from my client. Using another MUA can help in some cases. To understand further, I want a Debian system to automatically retrieve messages from the POP3 server and put them in /home/peter/mbox. Then qpopper can let the preferred MUA pop them from the mbox. Which software should be configured to retrieve from the ISP POP3 server and store in mbox? Exim, getmail or another? I'm using fetchmail to do that. My schema is as follows: POP3 server (remote site / isp server) → fetchmail → spamassassin → postfix → cyrus (my local pop3 e-mail server) → MUA (clients) I use this setup because I have to distribute e-mails to my network users and so I prefer having a complete pop3/imap server running locally. In your case, you can just reduce the full chain to: POP3 server (remote site / isp server) → fetchmail → your $HOME mailbox → MUA (clients) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jfc8ic$rsl$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: POP3 in Debian
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:38:23 +, Jon Dowland wrote: I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail or mpop are options. What's wrong with Fetchmail? Works flawlessly for me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jfcd3v$c01$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re(2): POP3 in Debian
Camaleon, From: Camaleon noela...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:34:04 + (UTC) Which MUA? Refer to my message sent earlier today. Our messages crossed. In your case, you can just reduce the full chain to: POP3 server (remote site / isp server) ' fetchmail ' your $HOME mailbox ' MUA (clients) Simpler still. (POP3 server run by Shaw ISP) - (My Linux router) - (MUA on Oberon workstation). Addtional details in http://carnot.yi.org/NetworksPage.html;. Regards, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 639 0202. bcc: peasthope ... shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/; http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary; -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171057396.47090.30575@cantor.invalid
Re: Re(2): POP3 in Debian
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:31:50 -0800, peasthope wrote: Camaleon, From: Camaleon noela...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:34:04 + (UTC) Which MUA? Refer to my message sent earlier today. Our messages crossed. I've reviewed the messages you have posted in this thread but haven't found a reference on what was your e-mail client :-? In your case, you can just reduce the full chain to: POP3 server (remote site / isp server) ' fetchmail ' your $HOME mailbox ' MUA (clients) Simpler still. (POP3 server run by Shaw ISP) - (My Linux router) - (MUA on Oberon workstation). Addtional details in http://carnot.yi.org/NetworksPage.html;. Oh, well, sure. That's the most basic setup. But that way you miss one of the most useful tools for handling today's mailboxes -running your own spamassassin- unless your ISP has a good and fully customizable anti-spam filter. P.S. IIRC, fetchmail works by default with mbox files but I'd say it can virtually work with any kind of mailbox storage formats given that it delivers the messages to the MTA. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jfcnbe$rsl$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re(3): POP3 in Debian
* From: Camale#xF3;n noela...@gmail.com * Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:46:22 + (UTC) I've reviewed the messages you have posted in this thread but haven't found a reference on what was your e-mail client :-? In http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/01/msg01548.html; the 4th non-empty line of the body of the message has Oberon Mail (ejz) on PC Native 05.01.2003. Then again near the bottom of the message, 4th non-empty line prior to Regards. ... you miss one of the most useful tools for handling today's mailboxes -running your own spamassassin- unless your ISP has a good and fully customizable anti-spam filter. Never been too bothered with spam. Shaw offers filtration and I leave it off. I wonder whether definite spams are caught by Shaw or further upstream. Do I.S.P.s ever routinely check for it in outgoing mail. In any case, I just click away the few that arrive each day. Might consider local filtering one day. Incidentally, someone please have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_email_subject_abbreviations section Iteration of Reply and point out any errors. It's pertinent to http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists page. Thanks, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 639 0202. bcc: peasthope ... shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/; http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary; -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171057396.71453.30578@cantor.invalid
Re: POP3 in Debian
If it has worked before, it could as well be a temporarily problem of your provider. By the way, here we're using pop3 encrypted via ssl (which nowadays every provider should have available) in order to protect the password from eavesdropping. -- Best regards, Jörg-Volker. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jf8n81$b1u$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: POP3 in Debian
Am Mittwoch, 18. Januar 2012 schrieb peasth...@shaw.ca: Failure in parsing LIST 1 baffles. How big a problem can parsing of 6 characters be? To understand further, I want a Debian system to automatically retrieve messages from the POP3 server and put them in /home/peter/mbox. Then qpopper can let the preferred MUA pop them from the mbox. Which software should be configured to retrieve from the ISP POP3 server and store in mbox? Exim, getmail or another? You could try with fetchmail, but I am not completely sure whether it can store what it retrieves in a mbox or whether it only supports maildir. -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201201191032.50175.mar...@lichtvoll.de
Re: Re: POP3 in Debian
On Mi, 18 ian 12, 19:16:03, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: * From: Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com * Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 00:06:16 +0200 Try having a look at your mail via some other means (webmail or so) to see if there is something that might create problems. Web access shows nothing unusual. Messages have come to the I.S.P. mailbox since the problem with POP appeared and I've deleted messages, including the oldest, via the Web. So newest and oldest messages have changed. Assuming message 1 is the newest or oldest, POP can't be stumbling on one specific message. I can empty the mailbox with the Web interface and see the result. Sorry, no other ideas. For automatic retrieval I have been using getmail for a long time. Do you have Exim still? I do have postfix, but only for sending mails. The recommended getmail setup does not involve any sendmail clone (unlike fetchmail)[1]. You may want to use an MDA (mail delivery agent), since getmail's built-in sorting is limited. The author believes in The Unix Way (tm) - do one thing and do it well ;) [1] re-injecting received mails in a SMTP daemon can lead to strange results if you are not careful. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: POP3 in Debian
On 19/01/12 09:32, Martin Steigerwald wrote: You could try with fetchmail, but I am not completely sure whether it can store what it retrieves in a mbox or whether it only supports maildir. Fairly sure fetchmail (et al) can inject mail to the local MDA, so where it ends up afterwards depends on how you've set up exim or an alternative. I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail or mpop are options. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f1800af.4080...@debian.org
Re: POP3 in Debian
Am Donnerstag, 19. Januar 2012 schrieb Jon Dowland: On 19/01/12 09:32, Martin Steigerwald wrote: You could try with fetchmail, but I am not completely sure whether it can store what it retrieves in a mbox or whether it only supports maildir. Fairly sure fetchmail (et al) can inject mail to the local MDA, so where it ends up afterwards depends on how you've set up exim or an alternative. I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail or mpop are options. Well I am not using either, I was just suggesting, that if one tool does not work, the other might. But then when the one tool worked before, it is probably something else. And yes fetchmail has such an option. -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201201191245.10631.mar...@lichtvoll.de
Re: POP3 in Debian
Am Donnerstag, 19. Januar 2012 schrieb Martin Steigerwald: Am Donnerstag, 19. Januar 2012 schrieb Jon Dowland: On 19/01/12 09:32, Martin Steigerwald wrote: You could try with fetchmail, but I am not completely sure whether it can store what it retrieves in a mbox or whether it only supports maildir. Fairly sure fetchmail (et al) can inject mail to the local MDA, so where it ends up afterwards depends on how you've set up exim or an alternative. […] And yes fetchmail has such an option. Well at least I read: - It's now easy to deliver mail to a local LMTP socket. http://www.fetchmail.info/fetchmail-features.html - Delivery via SMTP to the client machine's port 25. This means the retrieved mail automatically goes to the system default MDA as if it were normal sender-initiated SMTP mail. on http://www.fetchmail.info/fetchmail-features.html -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201201191308.40381.mar...@lichtvoll.de
Re: POP3 in Debian
Hi, Both getmail4 and fetchmail can handle this task well (Though I like the getmail4 package as being its maintainer.) On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 01:49:22PM -0800, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: Hi, Since the weekend my MUA POP3 connection has failed to receive messages with this appearing in the log. --- POP RCV: +OK pop.shaw.ca SND: USER peasthope RCV: +OK password required for user peasth...@shaw.ca SND: PASS RCV: +OK server ready SND: UIDL RCV: +OK 35 messages SND: LIST 1 RCV: -ERR unable to parse msg SND: RETR 1 RCV: -ERR unable to parse msg SND: QUIT Failure in parsing LIST 1 baffles. How big a problem can parsing of 6 characters be? To understand further, I want a Debian system to automatically retrieve messages from the POP3 server and put them in /home/peter/mbox. Then qpopper can let the preferred MUA pop them from the mbox. Which Qpopper The most widely-used POP3 server for UNIX, Linux, etc. http://www.eudora.com/products/unsupported/qpopper/index.html Are you running that qpopper yourself? software should be configured to retrieve from the ISP POP3 server and store in mbox? Exim, getmail or another? I think your message is quite confuting. Anyway, run your MUA with more verbosity. mutt have -d option. Or connect to remote POP3 site with telnet. Thanks, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 639 0202. Former telephone 1 360 450 2132. bcc: peasthope ... shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/; http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary; -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171057394.56406.45108@cantor.invalid -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120119121034.GA3832@localhost
Re: POP3 in Debian
* Jon Dowland wrote on 2012-01-19 at 11:38 (+): On 19/01/12 09:32, Martin Steigerwald wrote: You could try with fetchmail, but I am not completely sure whether it can store what it retrieves in a mbox or whether it only supports maildir. Fairly sure fetchmail (et al) can inject mail to the local MDA, so where it ends up afterwards depends on how you've set up exim or an alternative. I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail or mpop are options. Is this a general advice? If so, then why? Or is it your advice for the OP's aim to directly deliver messages to a mbox or maildir without exim and without running an MDA. Yes, I checked the short package descriptions of getmail and mpop. And I'm using fetchmail for myself (but no POP3s) without any problems. Regards, Mathias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120119125009.gb12...@gmx.org
Re: POP3 in Debian
On 19/01/12 12:50, Mathias Bauer wrote: Is this a general advice? If so, then why? Yes. http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/faq.html#faq-about-why covers many reasons. Or is it your advice for the OP's aim to directly deliver messages to a mbox or maildir without exim and without running an MDA. I didn't read the OP's message as indicating that one piece of software needed to deliver to that place without invoking another. Indeed, I want a Debian system would seem to support using multiple bits (such as getmail + a MDA such as Exim) -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f18303f.1080...@debian.org
Re(2): POP3 in Debian
* From: Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org * Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 21:10:34 +0900 Both getmail4 and fetchmail can handle this task well ... According to the Wikipedia, fetchmail can not deliver to mbox. Are you running that qpopper yourself? Not now. It was installed years ago before I learned to simplify configuration. Or connect to remote POP3 site with telnet. That explained the problem in a few minutes. The MUA is putting two blanks between LIST and 1. The Zimbra POP3 server is accepting one blank and not two. My log is a variable pitch font and I failed to notice the two blanks. Should have noticed in the Courier font emessage but failed again. The ISP must have changed the POP server last weekend. No public notice and technical support staff were unaware. My telnet session follows in case anyone is interested. * From: J#xF6;rg-Volker Peetz jvpe...@web.de * Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:20:01 +0100 By the way, here we're using pop3 encrypted via ssl (which nowadays every provider should have available) in order to protect the password from eavesdropping. I connect to the home computer through an encrypted OpenVPN tunnel. The home computer is directly connected to the ISP network. For my usage, secure enough. If a specific message is sensitive, I can encrypt it. * From: Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de * Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:32:49 +0100 You could try with fetchmail, but I am not completely sure whether it can store what it retrieves in a mbox or whether it only supports maildir. Now that I understand, the MUA can be changed to send just one blank and interact with the ISP POP3 directly again. Thanks everyone! ... Peter E. = peter@dalton:~$ telnet pop.shaw.ca Trying 64.59.128.135... Connected to pop.glb.shawcable.net. Escape character is '^]'. +OK pop.shaw.ca USER peasthope +OK password required for user peasth...@shaw.ca PASS +OK server ready UIDL +OK 44 messages 1 262.1SncBhxqQCrWNAm,xqU5SHSAN7Q= 2 263.KJ68ukuCBjc8hDY0BF0eHGGve58= [42 messages deleted] . LIST 1 +OK 1 4211 LIST 1 -ERR unable to parse msg Quit +OK cds015.dcs.int.inet Zimbra POP3 server closing connection Connection closed by foreign host. = -- Telephone 1 360 639 0202. bcc: peasthope ... shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/; http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary; -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171057395.35928.29220@cantor.invalid
Re: POP3 in Debian
Am Donnerstag, 19. Januar 2012 schrieb Jon Dowland: On 19/01/12 12:50, Mathias Bauer wrote: Is this a general advice? If so, then why? Yes. http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/faq.html#faq-about-why covers many reasons. Holy smoke! Well that are enough reasons for me. OTOH it would be interesting to know the other side of the story. Thanks for the hint, I will consider it, should I need to configure some mail fetching somewhere again. -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201201191928.29730.mar...@lichtvoll.de
getmail replacing fetchmail (was: POP3 in Debian)
Hello again, * Martin Steigerwald wrote on 2012-01-19 at 19:28 (+0100): Am Donnerstag, 19. Januar 2012 schrieb Jon Dowland: On 19/01/12 12:50, Mathias Bauer wrote: Is this a general advice? If so, then why? Yes. http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/faq.html#faq-about-why covers many reasons. thanks for the link. Holy smoke! Well that are enough reasons for me. OTOH it would be interesting to know the other side of the story. I got curious about getmail so I just gave it a try and it seems to be quite nice. But apart from fetchmail's security history and the asserted complexity of its config file, that was pointed to several times in the (in some way emotionally heated) document linked above, getmail lacks two features at first glance: (a) Any SSL certification check avoiding a man-in-the-middle attack. (b) A mechanism for direct re-injection retrieved messages via SMTP to the client machine's port 25. Concerning a) it may possibly be implemented by stunnel somehow. For now I haven't figured it out. And concerning b) getmail itself provides a mechanism handing over the retrieved messages via a pipe (e.g. using /usr/sbin/sendmail to the MTA). Of course the needed additional process(es) are far away from being as efficient as direct delivery via SMTP. (Although getmail doesn't (and won't) support (b) and other solutions are recommended in the docs and its mailing list's messages, there may be situations where going through the MTA is necessary.) Well, for the moment it seems to me that this is the price of replacing fetchmail - and of The Unix Way (tm) - do one thing and do it well :-) Regards, Mathias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120119220908.ga10...@gmx.org
POP3 in Debian
Hi, Since the weekend my MUA POP3 connection has failed to receive messages with this appearing in the log. --- POP RCV: +OK pop.shaw.ca SND: USER peasthope RCV: +OK password required for user peasth...@shaw.ca SND: PASS RCV: +OK server ready SND: UIDL RCV: +OK 35 messages SND: LIST 1 RCV: -ERR unable to parse msg SND: RETR 1 RCV: -ERR unable to parse msg SND: QUIT Failure in parsing LIST 1 baffles. How big a problem can parsing of 6 characters be? To understand further, I want a Debian system to automatically retrieve messages from the POP3 server and put them in /home/peter/mbox. Then qpopper can let the preferred MUA pop them from the mbox. Which software should be configured to retrieve from the ISP POP3 server and store in mbox? Exim, getmail or another? Thanks, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 639 0202. Former telephone 1 360 450 2132. bcc: peasthope ... shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/; http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary; -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171057394.56406.45108@cantor.invalid
Re: POP3 in Debian
On Mi, 18 ian 12, 13:49:22, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: Hi, Since the weekend my MUA POP3 connection has failed to receive messages with this appearing in the log. --- POP RCV: +OK pop.shaw.ca SND: USER peasthope RCV: +OK password required for user peasth...@shaw.ca SND: PASS RCV: +OK server ready SND: UIDL RCV: +OK 35 messages SND: LIST 1 RCV: -ERR unable to parse msg SND: RETR 1 RCV: -ERR unable to parse msg SND: QUIT Failure in parsing LIST 1 baffles. How big a problem can parsing of 6 characters be? The problem might come from one specific message in your Inbox (malformed or whatever). Try having a look at your mail via some other means (webmail or so) to see if there is something that might create problems. For automatic retrieval I have been using getmail for a long time. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Re: POP3 in Debian
* From: Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com * Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 00:06:16 +0200 Try having a look at your mail via some other means (webmail or so) to see if there is something that might create problems. Web access shows nothing unusual. Messages have come to the I.S.P. mailbox since the problem with POP appeared and I've deleted messages, including the oldest, via the Web. So newest and oldest messages have changed. Assuming message 1 is the newest or oldest, POP can't be stumbling on one specific message. I can empty the mailbox with the Web interface and see the result. For automatic retrieval I have been using getmail for a long time. Do you have Exim still? Thanks, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 639 0202. bcc: peasthope ... shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/; http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary; -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171057394.78852.45109@cantor.invalid
Re: POP3 no Debian
Nick Carolino wrote: Só quero receber e-mail de fora. POP3 significa Post Office Protocol versão 3. Você pode compará-lo a uma caixa postal em sua agência mais próxima de correio, no mundo real. Uma vez por dia, ou uma vez por semana, você sai da sua casa e vai até a agência de correio olhar sua caixa postal. Se tiver cartas, você pega e leva embora. Você já consegue enviar pelo Postfix, da mesma forma que você pega cartas escritas para seus amigos, vai até a agência de correio e as coloca em uma caixa com abertura retangular. Seguindo a analogia, o que você quer é saber como o correio faz para que as cartas *cheguem* à sua caixa postal. Ou seja, como o resto da Internet pode fazer para enviar e-mail para você. Podemos ajudar você nessa tarefa, mas precisamos de algumas informações. Você tem um domínio registrado na FAPESP? Você tem conexão Speedy, Virtua, discada? -- André Carezia Eng. de Telecomunicações Carezia Consultoria - www.carezia.srv.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: POP3 no Debian
Boa tarde lista! Acabei de configurar o Postfix aqui em casa. O seviço de smtp esta funcionando corretamente, consigo enviar e-mail para qualker endereço. Mas se uma pessoa resolver retornar o meu e-mail? Como posso configurar o POP3, para receber os emails externos? O que devo usar? Obrigado! Nick, Um boa opção é o Courier que pode implementar IMAP ou POP com mailbox ou maildir. http://www.courier-mta.org/ At. Cristiano Silva -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: POP3 no Debian
Nick Carolino wrote: Boa tarde lista! Acabei de configurar o Postfix aqui em casa. O seviço de smtp esta funcionando corretamente, consigo enviar e-mail para qualker endereço. Mas se uma pessoa resolver retornar o meu e-mail? Como posso configurar o POP3, para receber os emails externos? O que devo usar? Obrigado! Só alguns esclarecimentos. Você quer receber e-mails de domínios fora de seu a rede? Você tem um dns com o MX cadastrado? A seu problema com o POP3 é só para receber os e-mail's do seu MTA para o seu MUA, não é? Att. -- Rodolfo Barbosa -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Administrador de Sistemas Móveis Tel.: +55 (35) 3829-1125 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Universidade Federal de Lavras -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: POP3 no Debian
Só quero receber e-mail de fora.Em 30/11/05, Rodolfo Barbosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Nick Carolino wrote: Boa tarde lista! Acabei de configurar o Postfix aqui em casa. O seviço de smtp esta funcionando corretamente, consigo enviar e-mail para qualker endereço. Mas se uma pessoa resolver retornar o meu e-mail? Como posso configurar o POP3, para receber os emails externos? O que devo usar? Obrigado!Só alguns esclarecimentos. Você quer receber e-mails de domínios fora deseu a rede? Você tem um dns com o MX cadastrado? A seu problema com oPOP3 é só para receber os e-mail's do seu MTA para o seu MUA, não é? Att.--Rodolfo Barbosa -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]Administrador de Sistemas MóveisTel.: +55 (35) 3829-1125[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Universidade Federal de Lavras
Re: POP3 no Debian
Nick Carolino wrote: Só quero receber e-mail de fora. Em 30/11/05, *Rodolfo Barbosa* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Nick Carolino wrote: Boa tarde lista! Acabei de configurar o Postfix aqui em casa. O seviço de smtp esta funcionando corretamente, consigo enviar e-mail para qualker endereço. Mas se uma pessoa resolver retornar o meu e-mail? Como posso configurar o POP3, para receber os emails externos? O que devo usar? Obrigado! Então o seu problema não é com o POP e sim com o seu MTA (PostFix, Exim, SendMail, etc) e/ou DNS. Para você receber um e-mail de outro domínio, você precisas cadastrar na entrada MX do seu dmínio o endereço do seu servidor de DNS. Você precisa também configurar no seu MTA para quais domínios ele irá aceitar mensagens. Caso contrário ninguém consegue enviar mensagens para o seu domínio. O POP3 é só para que o usuário receba as mensagens que estão armazenadas na caixa de entrada dele. Logo essas mensagens ja devem ter sido recebidas anteriormente pelo MTA. Att. -- Rodolfo Barbosa -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Administrador de Sistemas Móveis Tel.: +55 (35) 3829-1125 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Universidade Federal de Lavras -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
POP3 no Debian
Boa tarde lista! Acabei de configurar o Postfix aqui em casa. O seviço de smtp esta funcionando corretamente, consigo enviar e-mail para qualker endereço. Mas se uma pessoa resolver retornar o meu e-mail? Como posso configurar o POP3, para receber os emails externos? O que devo usar? Obrigado!
Re: POP3 no Debian
Em 29/11/05, Nick Carolino [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Boa tarde lista! Acabei de configurar o Postfix aqui em casa. O seviço de smtp esta funcionando corretamente, consigo enviar e-mail para qualker endereço. Mas se uma pessoa resolver retornar o meu e-mail? Como posso configurar o POP3, para receber os emails externos? O que devo usar? Obrigado! Camarada, acredito que o link abaixo te ajude muito! ;) http://focalinux.cipsga.org.br/guia/avancado/ch-s-pop3.htm abração,-- Guilherme RochaConsultor de Tecnologiahttps://e-gui.homelinux.org/egroupware#Linux Registered User: 391180
Sendmail + POP3 + SSL + Debian
Pessoal, Eu tinha o Sendmail + ipopd + SSL funcionando no Fedora. Quando migrei para o Debian, parou de funcionar. Por via das dúvidas, gerei a CA e o certificado novamente e coloquei em /etc/ssl/certs. Fiz os links necessários. Nem o Sendmail nem o POP3 funcionam. Tenho certeza, por várias observações, que o problema está nos daemons utilizarem o certificado. A conexão é estabelecida mas não é concluída com sucesso. No log aparece: Sep 7 21:43:10 localhost sm-mta[12694]: i880hAwV012694: --- 500 5.5.1 Command unrecognized: Tenho, ainda, as portas funcionando sem cripto. Se eu mandar o cliente acessar sem cripto, o mesmo consegue realizar as operações. Usei como cliente o Outlook Express e o Thunderbird. Alguém tem alguma idéia? Grato, Eriberto
