Re: how to close the nxclient session properly

2005-10-31 Thread Justin Guerin
On Friday 28 October 2005 17:15, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
 However if I do the following then the keyboard shortcuts are not
 working.

 On the machine running nxclient, Go to the command line prompt
 open an X server by doing
   X :1 
 Now start nxclient in this
   DISPLAY=:1 nxclient 

 It opens the nxclient session in :1 (ctrl-alt-F8) and the keyboard
 shortcuts does not work there. What am I missing in this method?

 raju

I have no idea, but since you're not using any kind of window manager, that 
could be the cause of the problem.  Have you tried this scenario using twm 
or something equally lightweight?  Perhaps you can use the KDE menu option 
Switch User - Start New Session to start a twm (or even failsafe) session, 
launch nxclient from there, and then maybe your key bindings will work.

Out of curiosity, do the Ctrl-Alt-function key get you from display 1 to 0?

I'm not sure how X key bindings are set up, but my guess is you'll have to 
have some kind of window manager running in order to interrupt the special 
NX key combinations.  You may want to start a new thread with this type of 
question.

Sorry I can't help more,
Justin



Re: how to close the nxclient session properly

2005-10-31 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi

Justin Guerin wrote:


On Friday 28 October 2005 17:15, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
 


However if I do the following then the keyboard shortcuts are not
working.

On the machine running nxclient, Go to the command line prompt
open an X server by doing
 X :1 
Now start nxclient in this
 DISPLAY=:1 nxclient 

It opens the nxclient session in :1 (ctrl-alt-F8) and the keyboard
shortcuts does not work there. What am I missing in this method?

raju
   



I have no idea, but since you're not using any kind of window manager, that 
could be the cause of the problem.  Have you tried this scenario using twm 
or something equally lightweight?  Perhaps you can use the KDE menu option 
Switch User - Start New Session to start a twm (or even failsafe) session, 
launch nxclient from there, and then maybe your key bindings will work.
 


Thanks. I will try it later.


Out of curiosity, do the Ctrl-Alt-function key get you from display 1 to 0?

 


Yes. Ctrl-Alt function keys work fine.

I'm not sure how X key bindings are set up, but my guess is you'll have to 
have some kind of window manager running in order to interrupt the special 
NX key combinations.  You may want to start a new thread with this type of 
question.
 

Currently running nxclient from an already existing kde session works 
perfectly. So I guess I will postpone this issue to a later point of 
time when I have more free time at hand. Your suggestions have been very 
helpful so far. Thanks very much.


bye
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Re: how to close the nxclient session properly

2005-10-28 Thread Justin Guerin
On Thursday 27 October 2005 19:59, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
 Justin Guerin wrote:
 On Wednesday 26 October 2005 17:08, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
[snip]
 
 If you click in the upper right hand corner of your screen, the NX
  session will minimize.

 In fullscreen mode even I click in the upper right hand cornet of the
 screen, the session does not minimize. What nxclient version are you
 running?

That's weird.  I'm running 1.2.0-91 from kanotix.com.  I'll have to upgrade 
and see if 1.5.0-113 gives me the same problem.

 Right click on your NX session in your taskbar, and select
 close.

 Really? In full screen mode, I cannot even see the taskbar.

I can't either, until I click in the upper right hand pixel.  That makes the 
fullscreen minimize to a taskbar entry.

   The NX session will restore itself, and ask you if you want to
 suspend, terminate or cancel.
 
 Pretty intuitive, huh? ;-)

 I do not know if you are being sarcastic here. But when I run nxclient
 in fullscreen mode, There is no window bar or status bar.

 bye
 raju

I'm very sorry if you thought I was being sarcastic towards you.  I was 
being sarcastic towards needing to click in the upper right hand corner to 
minimize the fullscreen window.  I happened upon it by accident, and 
never would have thought to do such a thing on my own.

Of course, now that you ask, I clicked around after loading the online help, 
and found this page: http://www.nomachine.com/ar/view.php?ar_id=AR03C00172  
It states that you should be able to click on the magic pixel at the top 
right corner, but also that Alt-F2 should minimize the fullscreen 
application as well.  I tried that, and it works for me on 1.4.0-91, but it 
states that starting from 1.5.0, you should use Ctrl+Alt+M to minimize or 
maximize a fullscreen window.

I guess you should check out that link for the full list of options, seeing 
as how no man page or other documentation is included in the packages. :-(

I'm sorry you thought my sarcasm was directed at you.

Justin Guerin


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Re: how to close the nxclient session properly

2005-10-28 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi



Right click on your NX session in your taskbar, and select
close.
 


Really? In full screen mode, I cannot even see the taskbar.
   



I can't either, until I click in the upper right hand pixel.  That makes the 
fullscreen minimize to a taskbar entry.
 

I am having hard luck finding the 'magic pixel'. No luck with Alt-F2 or 
Ctrl-Alt-M either. The thing is inside the nxclient I am running kde 
session and when I press Alt-F2 KDE's usual Run command window pops 
up. I guess KDE is the culprit here. It is taking complete control over 
the keyboard and not passing Alt-F2, Alt-F4, Ctrl-Alt-M etc., keys onto 
nxserver.



The NX session will restore itself, and ask you if you want to
suspend, terminate or cancel.

Pretty intuitive, huh? ;-)
 


I do not know if you are being sarcastic here. But when I run nxclient
in fullscreen mode, There is no window bar or status bar.

bye
raju

   

I'm very sorry if you thought I was being sarcastic towards you.  I was 
being sarcastic towards needing to click in the upper right hand corner to 
minimize the fullscreen window.  I happened upon it by accident, and 
never would have thought to do such a thing on my own.
 

:-) Thanks for the clarification. Part of it is my mistake too (for not 
reading between the lines).


Of course, now that you ask, I clicked around after loading the online help, 
and found this page: http://www.nomachine.com/ar/view.php?ar_id=AR03C00172  
It states that you should be able to click on the magic pixel at the top 
right corner, but also that Alt-F2 should minimize the fullscreen 
application as well.  I tried that, and it works for me on 1.4.0-91, but it 
states that starting from 1.5.0, you should use Ctrl+Alt+M to minimize or 
maximize a fullscreen window.
 

None of these keyboard shortcuts work for me as described in the above 
document. They take the usual KDE meaning. For example if I press 
Alt-F4, the current window closes instead of the session getting 
terminated etc.,


Which window manager do you run inside the nxclient? Which window 
manager do you run on the machine where you run nxclient? I am using KDE 
in both instances and starting to wonder this whole thing is due to kde.


bye
raju

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Re: how to close the nxclient session properly

2005-10-28 Thread Justin Guerin
On Friday 28 October 2005 16:15, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
[snip]
 I can't either, until I click in the upper right hand pixel.  That makes
  the fullscreen minimize to a taskbar entry.

 I am having hard luck finding the 'magic pixel'. No luck with Alt-F2 or
 Ctrl-Alt-M either. The thing is inside the nxclient I am running kde
 session and when I press Alt-F2 KDE's usual Run command window pops
 up. I guess KDE is the culprit here. It is taking complete control over
 the keyboard and not passing Alt-F2, Alt-F4, Ctrl-Alt-M etc., keys onto
 nxserver.

Weird.  I run nxclient in a KDE session, and Alt-F2 works to minimize the 
nxsession, but also works to run programs if I'm not currently in an 
nxsession.

[snip]
 Of course, now that you ask, I clicked around after loading the online
  help, and found this page:
  http://www.nomachine.com/ar/view.php?ar_id=AR03C00172 It states that
  you should be able to click on the magic pixel at the top right corner,
  but also that Alt-F2 should minimize the fullscreen application as
  well.  I tried that, and it works for me on 1.4.0-91, but it states
  that starting from 1.5.0, you should use Ctrl+Alt+M to minimize or
  maximize a fullscreen window.

 None of these keyboard shortcuts work for me as described in the above
 document. They take the usual KDE meaning. For example if I press
 Alt-F4, the current window closes instead of the session getting
 terminated etc.,

 Which window manager do you run inside the nxclient? Which window
 manager do you run on the machine where you run nxclient? I am using KDE
 in both instances and starting to wonder this whole thing is due to kde.

 bye
 raju

Normally, I run Gnome on the nxserver, but KDE on the machine running the 
client.  I do this because I'm not sure if it's safe to run 2 KDE sessions 
as the same user on the same machine at the same time.  Even though one 
session is an nxsession, I'm not sure if that would interfere with my 
regular X session on the server, where I keep myself always logged in.

Anyway, I tried using a KDE desktop in both the client machine and the 
nxsession, and my key bindings worked as expected.  Perhaps you have 
khotkeys enabled, whereas I don't?  I enabled it, both on the client 
machine and the client session, but it didn't seem to make a difference for 
me.  I even tried to set up a khotkey shortcut using Alt+F2, but I couldn't 
key it in, as the session would minimize as soon as I hit it.

What keyboard layout are you using?  I'm using US English, standard PC-104 
keyboard.  Maybe that could be the problem?

Justin


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Re: how to close the nxclient session properly

2005-10-28 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi


Anyway, I tried using a KDE desktop in both the client machine and the 
nxsession, and my key bindings worked as expected.  Perhaps you have 
khotkeys enabled, whereas I don't?  I enabled it, both on the client 
machine and the client session, but it didn't seem to make a difference for 
me.  I even tried to set up a khotkey shortcut using Alt+F2, but I couldn't 
key it in, as the session would minimize as soon as I hit it.


What keyboard layout are you using?  I'm using US English, standard PC-104 
keyboard.  Maybe that could be the problem?
 

I was not sure what keyboard layout I was using before. I removed all my 
keyboard layouts and made it U.S.English, standard PC-104 and it started 
working. Now the keyboard shortcuts given in the nxclient document 
(http://www.nomachine.com/ar/view.php?ar_id=AR03C00172) are working 
fine. Awesome. Thanks a lot.


However if I do the following then the keyboard shortcuts are not working.

On the machine running nxclient, Go to the command line prompt
open an X server by doing
 X :1 
Now start nxclient in this
 DISPLAY=:1 nxclient 

It opens the nxclient session in :1 (ctrl-alt-F8) and the keyboard 
shortcuts does not work there. What am I missing in this method?


raju


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Re: how to close the nxclient session properly

2005-10-27 Thread Justin Guerin
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 17:08, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
 I am using nxclient 1.5.0-113 downloaded from
 http://www.nomachine.com/download.php on a Debian Sid machine.

 On the client machine I run KDE. Inside this KDE session, when I run
 nxclient (using the available area option in the general tab) then a
 window pops up and connects to the server. When I close this window ( by
 clicking on the X of the title bar of nxclient window), I will be given
 an option to suspend, terminate, cancel the NX session. I always
 choose suspend option so that I can start working from where I left
 off.

 But if I use the FullScreen option in the general tab while
 configuring the nxclient, then when I run nxclient, it opens a nxclient
 session in full screen. Now I do not know how to suspend the current NX
 session and resume it later. Since it is run in full screen with no
 window whatsoever, I cannot do the previous method of clicking on X of
 the window title bar.

 any ideas on how to overcome this problem?

 thanks
 raju

If you click in the upper right hand corner of your screen, the NX session 
will minimize.  Right click on your NX session in your taskbar, and select 
close.  The NX session will restore itself, and ask you if you want to 
suspend, terminate or cancel.

Pretty intuitive, huh? ;-)

Justin Guerin


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Re: how to close the nxclient session properly

2005-10-27 Thread Antonio Paiva

Justin Guerin wrote:

On Wednesday 26 October 2005 17:08, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:


I am using nxclient 1.5.0-113 downloaded from
http://www.nomachine.com/download.php on a Debian Sid machine.

On the client machine I run KDE. Inside this KDE session, when I run
nxclient (using the available area option in the general tab) then a
window pops up and connects to the server. When I close this window ( by
clicking on the X of the title bar of nxclient window), I will be given
an option to suspend, terminate, cancel the NX session. I always
choose suspend option so that I can start working from where I left
off.

But if I use the FullScreen option in the general tab while
configuring the nxclient, then when I run nxclient, it opens a nxclient
session in full screen. Now I do not know how to suspend the current NX
session and resume it later. Since it is run in full screen with no
window whatsoever, I cannot do the previous method of clicking on X of
the window title bar.

any ideas on how to overcome this problem?

thanks
raju



If you click in the upper right hand corner of your screen, the NX session 
will minimize.  Right click on your NX session in your taskbar, and select 
close.  The NX session will restore itself, and ask you if you want to 
suspend, terminate or cancel.


Pretty intuitive, huh? ;-)


The upper right hand corner is actually a special pixel, by my 
experience, very hand to get. Try moving the tip of your mouse over the 
upper most left pixel, and click around for a special pixel. Your mouse 
pointer will actually be outside of the screen.

That that intuitive...

Something visible would help! Maybe they will think about it later.
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Re: how to close the nxclient session properly

2005-10-27 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi

Justin Guerin wrote:


On Wednesday 26 October 2005 17:08, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
 


I am using nxclient 1.5.0-113 downloaded from
http://www.nomachine.com/download.php on a Debian Sid machine.

On the client machine I run KDE. Inside this KDE session, when I run
nxclient (using the available area option in the general tab) then a
window pops up and connects to the server. When I close this window ( by
clicking on the X of the title bar of nxclient window), I will be given
an option to suspend, terminate, cancel the NX session. I always
choose suspend option so that I can start working from where I left
off.

But if I use the FullScreen option in the general tab while
configuring the nxclient, then when I run nxclient, it opens a nxclient
session in full screen. Now I do not know how to suspend the current NX
session and resume it later. Since it is run in full screen with no
window whatsoever, I cannot do the previous method of clicking on X of
the window title bar.

any ideas on how to overcome this problem?

thanks
raju

   

If you click in the upper right hand corner of your screen, the NX session 
will minimize.


In fullscreen mode even I click in the upper right hand cornet of the 
screen, the session does not minimize. What nxclient version are you 
running?


Right click on your NX session in your taskbar, and select 
close.



Really? In full screen mode, I cannot even see the taskbar.

 The NX session will restore itself, and ask you if you want to 
suspend, terminate or cancel.


Pretty intuitive, huh? ;-)

 

I do not know if you are being sarcastic here. But when I run nxclient 
in fullscreen mode, There is no window bar or status bar.


bye
raju

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Re: how to close the nxclient session properly

2005-10-27 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi

Antonio Paiva wrote:


Justin Guerin wrote:


On Wednesday 26 October 2005 17:08, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:


I am using nxclient 1.5.0-113 downloaded from
http://www.nomachine.com/download.php on a Debian Sid machine.

On the client machine I run KDE. Inside this KDE session, when I run
nxclient (using the available area option in the general tab) then a
window pops up and connects to the server. When I close this window 
( by

clicking on the X of the title bar of nxclient window), I will be given
an option to suspend, terminate, cancel the NX session. I always
choose suspend option so that I can start working from where I left
off.

But if I use the FullScreen option in the general tab while
configuring the nxclient, then when I run nxclient, it opens a nxclient
session in full screen. Now I do not know how to suspend the current NX
session and resume it later. Since it is run in full screen with no
window whatsoever, I cannot do the previous method of clicking on X of
the window title bar.

any ideas on how to overcome this problem?

thanks
raju



If you click in the upper right hand corner of your screen, the NX 
session will minimize.  Right click on your NX session in your 
taskbar, and select close.  The NX session will restore itself, and 
ask you if you want to suspend, terminate or cancel.


Pretty intuitive, huh? ;-)



The upper right hand corner is actually a special pixel, by my 
experience, very hand to get. Try moving the tip of your mouse over 
the upper most left pixel, and click around for a special pixel. Your 
mouse pointer will actually be outside of the screen.

That that intuitive...

Something visible would help! Maybe they will think about it later.


I could not get hold of the special pixel either on the upper left or 
upper right that you are talking about. I am still looking for 
suggestions regarding this problem.


thanks
raju

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how to close the nxclient session properly

2005-10-26 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
I am using nxclient 1.5.0-113 downloaded from 
http://www.nomachine.com/download.php on a Debian Sid machine.


On the client machine I run KDE. Inside this KDE session, when I run 
nxclient (using the available area option in the general tab) then a 
window pops up and connects to the server. When I close this window ( by 
clicking on the X of the title bar of nxclient window), I will be given 
an option to suspend, terminate, cancel the NX session. I always 
choose suspend option so that I can start working from where I left off.


But if I use the FullScreen option in the general tab while 
configuring the nxclient, then when I run nxclient, it opens a nxclient 
session in full screen. Now I do not know how to suspend the current NX 
session and resume it later. Since it is run in full screen with no 
window whatsoever, I cannot do the previous method of clicking on X of 
the window title bar.


any ideas on how to overcome this problem?

thanks
raju

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