Re: Debian 10.04.0 Root user password changed during the instalation

[David Christensen]

On 2020-05-29 02:15, Jose Ramon Sanchez Gomez wrote:

The virtualisation software that I use is Oracle's VM Virtualbox. I've dowloaded the .iso files (both the full installation, 3 DVDs, and the netinst versions) 


Please copy and paste a terminal session showing the ISO file(s) and 
their SHA256 checksums.  For example:


$ sha256sum debian-9.11.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso
aeafc6142cb1c8636ba219a7d91339afc0be92adb722f8931bc58194295e307d 
debian-9.11.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso



> I'm installing [Debian] on a virtual machine running on Windows 10.

Please provide details of how you installed Debian.  For example:

Debian GNU/Linux installer boot menuInstall
LanguageC
Continent or region North America
Country, territory or area  United States
Keymap to use   American English
Primary network interface   eth0
Hostnametinkywinky
Domain name tracy.holgerdanske.com
Root password   
Full name for the new user  Debian
Username for your account   debian
Choose a password for the new user  
Select your time zone   Pacific
Partitioning method manual
Encrypted volume (sda3_crypt) - 1.0 GB Linux device-mapper (crypt)
 #1 1.0 GB f  swap  swap
Encrypted volume (sda4_crypt) - 12.0 GB Linux device-mapper (crypt)
 #112.0 GB f  ext4  /
SCSI5 (0,0,0) (sda) - 60.0 GB ATA INTEL SSDSC2CW06
 #1  primary  999.3 MB  B  F  ext4  /boot
 #2  primary1.0 GB K  crypto
 #3  primary   12.0 GB K  crypto
   46.0 GBFREESPACE
Finish partitioning and write changes to disk
Use a network mirrorYes
Mirror country  United States
Archive mirror  ftp.us.debian.org
HTTP proxy  
Participate in the package usage survey No
Choose software to install
Debian desktop environment
Xfce
print server
SSH server
standard system utilities
Install GRUB into master boot recordYes
Device  /dev/sda
Installation complete   Continue



... I open the Konsole terminal and try to use the root privilegies. ... 
unsuccessfully ...


Please copy and paste a terminal session that demonstrates unsuccessful 
use of root priveledges.



David

Re: Debian 10.04.0 Root user password changed during the instalation

[l0f4r0]

Hi,

Which commands have you used in order to "use the root privileges"?

If I sum up the situation:
* you've never had any password issues regarding your simple user account.
* your only solution so far has been to configure no password for root 
initially but assign one afterwards.
Right?

Best regards,
l0f4r0

Debian 10.04.0 Root user password changed during the instalation

[Jose Ramon Sanchez Gomez]

Sirs,
First of all, thankyou very much for your effort. You are helping many people, 
like me, to discover all the possibilities of the Linux operating system.

Nevertheless I have found a serious issue.

I'm installing your operating system on a virtual machine running on Windows 
10. The virtualisation software that I use is Oracle's VM Virtualbox. I've 
dowloaded the .iso files (both the full installation, 3 DVDs, and the netinst 
versions) with identical results, using two different computers.

In all cases I have installed the virtual machine using the ISO, using standard 
options, one drive (plus swap), root password, and user password.

It install flawlessly the operating system, until I open the Konsole terminal 
and try to use the root privilegies.

First I get mad trying to make it works, unsuccessfully. Then I supposed that 
I've typed my password wrong, or an issue with my keyboard layout... to 
summarize it was my fault.

In order to avoid the same problem, I made another virtual machine, with 
identical results. I couldn't reach root (I had taken a photograph of my 
password and it was correct). The user could log in without any trouble.

I've tried to reset root password through GRUB, without success.

Finally I make it work by NOT assigning ANY password to root. Then my user is 
added to suddoers group (I suppose), and then I  assing root a  password with 
the order PASSWD.

I have been searching through the Internet, and it looks this issue started 
with Debian 9 distribution.

Hope this may help you to find and repair this annoying bug. For someone like 
me, who doesn't have any idea about linux this is a major problem.

Again thank you, and good luck looking for the gap.

Best regards,


José Ramón Sánchez Gómez

KMLCSV Converter error default instalation

[William Torrez Corea]

How i can solve this problem?

An error has occurred. See the log file
/home/lulu/.eclipse/com.choonchernlim.kmlcsv.product_2.2.0_2119858939/configuration/1587689434842.log.


*org.osgi.framework.BundleException: The bundle
"org.eclipse.equinox.common_3.6.0.v20110523 [13]" could not be resolved.
Reason: Missing Constraint: Bundle-RequiredExecutionEnvironment:
CDC-1.1/Foundation-1.1,J2SE-1.4*

-- 

With kindest regards, William.

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Re: PCI-DSS compliant instalation guide for latest Debian

[Eero Volotinen]

Well, that is not simply true.

PCI DSS requires to comply all requirements. See:
https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/documents/PCI_DSS_v3-1.pdf

For example requirement 6.6 requires WAF (on public facing web
applications).

In simple way, you need also hardening on os or, not just security update.
If you process lot of data then onsite PCI QSA assesment is also required
every year and also yearly penetration testing and external & internal
scanning.

Eero

2015-09-10 12:48 GMT+03:00 claude juif :

> Hi,
>
> If your server is directly connected to Internet, you will fail PCI-DSS
> compliance. You need at least to put a proxy between internet and your
> server.
>
> IMO, the best way to accomplish this, is to hold credit card data on a
> separate server (this server will only store data, not more), not connected
> to internet (no route to internet gateway).
>
> Server<-->  Intermediate API server to retrieve Credit
> card data in a safe way <--> Webserver
> Credit Card
>
> This way, only the intermediate server is allowed to acces credit card
> data. Credit card server and intermediate server do NOT have access to
> internet. Obviously Credit Card server and intermediate server should
> communicate on a private LAN. The only point here, is how you authenticate
> Webserver with intermediate server. You have plenty of solutions.
>
> For the debian part, following the security update is enough for PCI DSS.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> 2015-09-09 8:31 GMT+02:00 Lovrenco Vladislavic <
> lovrenco.vladisla...@outlook.com>:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Can you provide me with some tutorial for latest Debian installation
>> which will achieve full compatibility with latest PCI-DSS security standard:
>>
>> https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/
>> https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/
>>
>> We need to host code for Credit Card data transfer (interface) on it, and
>> server will be audited by online robot for security issues.
>>
>> It would speed up the process if there is some concrete tutorial about
>> setting up correct services on new Debian installation.
>>
>> Thank you in advance,
>>
>> ---
>> Lovrenco Vladislavic
>>
>
>

Re: PCI-DSS compliant instalation guide for latest Debian

[claude juif]

Hi,

If your server is directly connected to Internet, you will fail PCI-DSS
compliance. You need at least to put a proxy between internet and your
server.

IMO, the best way to accomplish this, is to hold credit card data on a
separate server (this server will only store data, not more), not connected
to internet (no route to internet gateway).

Server<-->  Intermediate API server to retrieve Credit card
data in a safe way <--> Webserver
Credit Card

This way, only the intermediate server is allowed to acces credit card
data. Credit card server and intermediate server do NOT have access to
internet. Obviously Credit Card server and intermediate server should
communicate on a private LAN. The only point here, is how you authenticate
Webserver with intermediate server. You have plenty of solutions.

For the debian part, following the security update is enough for PCI DSS.

Cheers,


2015-09-09 8:31 GMT+02:00 Lovrenco Vladislavic <
lovrenco.vladisla...@outlook.com>:

> Hello,
>
> Can you provide me with some tutorial for latest Debian installation which
> will achieve full compatibility with latest PCI-DSS security standard:
>
> https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/
>
> We need to host code for Credit Card data transfer (interface) on it, and
> server will be audited by online robot for security issues.
>
> It would speed up the process if there is some concrete tutorial about
> setting up correct services on new Debian installation.
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> ---
> Lovrenco Vladislavic
>

Re: PCI-DSS compliant instalation guide for latest Debian

[claude juif]

Hi,

2015-09-10 12:00 GMT+02:00 Eero Volotinen :

> Well, that is not simply true.
>
> PCI DSS requires to comply all requirements. See:
> https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/documents/PCI_DSS_v3-1.pdf
>

PCI DSS said this :

Network segmentation of, or isolating (segmenting), the cardholder data
environment from the remainder of an entity’s network is not a PCI DSS
requirement. However, it is strongly recommended as a method that may
reduce:
 - The scope of the PCI DSS assessment
 - The cost of the PCI DSS assessment
 - The cost and difficulty of implementing and maintaining PCI DSS controls.
 - The risk to an organization (reduced by consolidating cardholder data
into fewer, more controlled locations)

Without adequate network segmentation (sometimes called a "flat network")
the entire network is in scope of the PCI DSS assessment. Network
segmentation can be achieved through a number of physical or logical means,
such as properly configured internal network firewalls, routers with strong
access control lists, or other technologies that restrict access to a
particular segment of a network. To be considered out of scope for PCI DSS,
a system component must be properly isolated !

>
> For example requirement 6.6 requires WAF (on public facing web
> applications).
>
> In simple way, you need also hardening on os or, not just security update.
> If you process lot of data then onsite PCI QSA assesment is also required
> every year and also yearly penetration testing and external & internal
> scanning.
>

In France (don't know about other countries) PCI-DSS certified company come
to your office and scan the relevant part of your network after audit.

BTW just remember you are holding really sensitive information. And the
best way to reduce security flaw is to disallow network access.

Cheers,


>
> Eero
>
> 2015-09-10 12:48 GMT+03:00 claude juif :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If your server is directly connected to Internet, you will fail PCI-DSS
>> compliance. You need at least to put a proxy between internet and your
>> server.
>>
>> IMO, the best way to accomplish this, is to hold credit card data on a
>> separate server (this server will only store data, not more), not connected
>> to internet (no route to internet gateway).
>>
>> Server<-->  Intermediate API server to retrieve Credit
>> card data in a safe way <--> Webserver
>> Credit Card
>>
>> This way, only the intermediate server is allowed to acces credit card
>> data. Credit card server and intermediate server do NOT have access to
>> internet. Obviously Credit Card server and intermediate server should
>> communicate on a private LAN. The only point here, is how you authenticate
>> Webserver with intermediate server. You have plenty of solutions.
>>
>> For the debian part, following the security update is enough for PCI DSS.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> 2015-09-09 8:31 GMT+02:00 Lovrenco Vladislavic <
>> lovrenco.vladisla...@outlook.com>:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Can you provide me with some tutorial for latest Debian installation
>>> which will achieve full compatibility with latest PCI-DSS security standard:
>>>
>>> https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/
>>> https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/
>>>
>>> We need to host code for Credit Card data transfer (interface) on it,
>>> and server will be audited by online robot for security issues.
>>>
>>> It would speed up the process if there is some concrete tutorial about
>>> setting up correct services on new Debian installation.
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Lovrenco Vladislavic
>>>
>>
>>
>

PCI-DSS compliant instalation guide for latest Debian

[Lovrenco Vladislavic]

Hello,



Can you provide me with some tutorial for latest Debian installation which will 
achieve full compatibility with latest PCI-DSS security standard: 
https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/
We need to host code for Credit Card data transfer (interface) on it, and 
server will be audited by online robot for security issues.
It would speed up the process if there is some concrete tutorial about setting 
up correct services on new Debian installation.
Thank you in advance,
---Lovrenco Vladislavic   

Re: Fwd: ksmserver not starting. check your instalation

[Luiz L. Marins]

Luiz, sugiro não usa-lo com muita profundidade, pois pode prejudicar teu
sistema. Limpeza de cache e temporários já oferece bons resultados.

Em 12 de dezembro de 2014 20:47, Luís Cláudio A. Gama luisg...@gmail.com
escreveu:

 Olá Enio,

   Eu tinha feito uma análise usando o konqueror, mas com bleachbit eu
 consegui mais 700Mbamanhã farei uma faxina geral no danado.

   Obrigado
 Luís Cláudio A. Gama
 Fones: TIM:  11-9 8452-4087   Res: 11-4602-3400
 Skype: luisclaudiogama   http://luisgama.googlepages.com

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 Em 12 de dezembro de 2014 15:23, Enio Climaco Sales Junior
 eniocsjun...@gmail.com escreveu:
  Mas e o espaço em disco?
  O baobab é um pacote que analiza seu espaço em disco, vendo pasta por
 pasta
  quais estão consumindo mais espaço no seu HD. Já o bleachbit é o
 CCleaner
  do Linux, limpa todos os arquivos desnecessários de sua máquina.
  Inicialmente, procure ver o que está comendo tanto espaço em disco assim
 da
  sua máquina, pois caso contrário, o problema persistirá.
 
 
  On 12-12-2014 11:46, Luís Cláudio A. Gama wrote:
 
 Não sabendo o que causou, continuei fuçando.
 
 Entrei no recovery mode do debian. Senha de Root, entrada em modo
  texto.
 
 dei startx
 
 O kde abriu, mas com o mesmo problema.
 
 consegui fechá-lo com o teclado e voltei para a linha de comando.
 
 Dei exit e o sistema continuou a inicialização e rodou o kdeaí
  começou a funcionar.
 
 Perdi somente minha config de desktopmas tudo bem.
 
 []s
 
 
  Luís Cláudio A. Gama
  Fones: TIM:  11-9 8452-4087   Res: 11-4602-3400
  Skype: luisclaudiogama   http://luisgama.googlepages.com
 
  br.linkedin.com/in/luisclaudiogama
 
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  Data: 12 de dezembro de 2014 10:38
  Assunto: ksmserver not starting. check your instalation
  Para: debian-user-portuguese debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 
 
  Bom dia,
 
 Hoje pela manhã, iniciei meu wheezy normalmente, porém o jdownloader
  comecou a fazer sua atualizaçao.
 
 A partir dai, senti que o mouse não estava funcionandonão
  trocava mais os aplicativos, não fechava janelas e nem abria mais
  nada.
 
 tentei fechar o kde e reiniciar o micro...tambem não foi possivel.
 
 fui na linha de comando e verifiquei que meu disco estava com 98%
  cheio...não deveria...limpei o cache do aptitude, tirei coisas e
  reduzi a 85%.
 
 ao matar um processo de um aplicativo que estava aberto, veio a
  mensagem ksmserver not starting. please check your instalation
 
 movi o .kde para um .kde_bak e reiniciei a maquina...continua não
  funcionando.
 
 o kde abre, o mouse movimenta...os aplicativos são carregados, mas
  não é possível clicar em nada...o teclado ainda funciona, pois posso
  trocar para outro console ou CTRL+x.
 
 não fiz nada como root.
 
 SOCORRO!
 
  Enviado por sinal de fumaça
 
 
 
 
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Re: ksmserver not starting. check your instalation

[Andre Luiz]

Na versão da Jessie o KDE não utiliza mais o nepomuk para indexar os
arquivos, substituíram pelo baloo que tem melhor performance.

On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 22:02:05 -0200
Enio Climaco Sales Junior eniocsjun...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bom saber disso, no entanto seria interessante você monitorar o que
 está levando tanto espaço em disco, e você pode fazer isso com o
 Baobab. Estou usando o jessie, e embora instale tudo que me vem à
 telha, com 2103 pacotes instalados, meu raiz tem 12 GB usados (exceto
 meu /home). O KDE além de usar muito recurso do sistema, tem um tal
 de Nepomuk que me fez ter ojeriza desse ambiente. Talvez por isso
 poucas distros o usam. Te aconselho usar o XFCE, que é o padrão do
 Debian Jessie: faz tudo que os melhores desktop's faz, muito mais
 rápido e sem minar recursos do sistema.
 
 On 12-12-2014 20:47, Luís Cláudio A. Gama wrote:
  Olá Enio,
 
 Eu tinha feito uma análise usando o konqueror, mas com bleachbit
  eu consegui mais 700Mbamanhã farei uma faxina geral no danado.
 
 Obrigado
  Luís Cláudio A. Gama
  Fones: TIM:  11-9 8452-4087   Res: 11-4602-3400
  Skype: luisclaudiogama   http://luisgama.googlepages.com
 
  br.linkedin.com/in/luisclaudiogama
 
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  Em 12 de dezembro de 2014 15:23, Enio Climaco Sales Junior
  eniocsjun...@gmail.com escreveu:
  Mas e o espaço em disco?
  O baobab é um pacote que analiza seu espaço em disco, vendo pasta
  por pasta quais estão consumindo mais espaço no seu HD. Já o
  bleachbit é o CCleaner do Linux, limpa todos os arquivos
  desnecessários de sua máquina. Inicialmente, procure ver o que
  está comendo tanto espaço em disco assim da sua máquina, pois caso
  contrário, o problema persistirá.
 
 
  On 12-12-2014 11:46, Luís Cláudio A. Gama wrote:
  Não sabendo o que causou, continuei fuçando.
 
  Entrei no recovery mode do debian. Senha de Root, entrada em
  modo texto.
 
  dei startx
 
  O kde abriu, mas com o mesmo problema.
 
  consegui fechá-lo com o teclado e voltei para a linha de
  comando.
 
  Dei exit e o sistema continuou a inicialização e rodou o
  kdeaí começou a funcionar.
 
  Perdi somente minha config de desktopmas tudo bem.
 
  []s
 
 
  Luís Cláudio A. Gama
  Fones: TIM:  11-9 8452-4087   Res: 11-4602-3400
  Skype: luisclaudiogama   http://luisgama.googlepages.com
 
  br.linkedin.com/in/luisclaudiogama
 
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  Data: 12 de dezembro de 2014 10:38
  Assunto: ksmserver not starting. check your instalation
  Para: debian-user-portuguese
  debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 
 
  Bom dia,
 
  Hoje pela manhã, iniciei meu wheezy normalmente, porém o
  jdownloader comecou a fazer sua atualizaçao.
 
  A partir dai, senti que o mouse não estava funcionandonão
  trocava mais os aplicativos, não fechava janelas e nem abria mais
  nada.
 
  tentei fechar o kde e reiniciar o micro...tambem não foi
  possivel.
 
  fui na linha de comando e verifiquei que meu disco estava com
  98% cheio...não deveria...limpei o cache do aptitude, tirei
  coisas e reduzi a 85%.
 
  ao matar um processo de um aplicativo que estava aberto, veio
  a mensagem ksmserver not starting. please check your instalation
 
  movi o .kde para um .kde_bak e reiniciei a maquina...continua
  não funcionando.
 
  o kde abre, o mouse movimenta...os aplicativos são
  carregados, mas não é possível clicar em nada...o teclado ainda
  funciona, pois posso trocar para outro console ou CTRL+x.
 
  não fiz nada como root.
 
  SOCORRO!
 
  Enviado por sinal de fumaça
 
 
 
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ksmserver not starting. check your instalation

[Luís Cláudio A . Gama]

Bom dia,

  Hoje pela manhã, iniciei meu wheezy normalmente, porém o jdownloader
comecou a fazer sua atualizaçao.

  A partir dai, senti que o mouse não estava funcionandonão trocava
mais os aplicativos, não fechava janelas e nem abria mais nada.

  tentei fechar o kde e reiniciar o micro...tambem não foi possivel.

  fui na linha de comando e verifiquei que meu disco estava com 98%
cheio...não deveria...limpei o cache do aptitude, tirei coisas e reduzi a
85%.

  ao matar um processo de um aplicativo que estava aberto, veio a mensagem
ksmserver not starting. please check your instalation

  movi o .kde para um .kde_bak e reiniciei a maquina...continua não
funcionando.

  o kde abre, o mouse movimenta...os aplicativos são carregados, mas não é
possível clicar em nada...o teclado ainda funciona, pois posso trocar para
outro console ou CTRL+x.

  não fiz nada como root.

  SOCORRO!

Enviado por sinal de fumaça

Fwd: ksmserver not starting. check your instalation

[Luís Cláudio A . Gama]

  Não sabendo o que causou, continuei fuçando.

  Entrei no recovery mode do debian. Senha de Root, entrada em modo texto.

  dei startx

  O kde abriu, mas com o mesmo problema.

  consegui fechá-lo com o teclado e voltei para a linha de comando.

  Dei exit e o sistema continuou a inicialização e rodou o kdeaí
começou a funcionar.

  Perdi somente minha config de desktopmas tudo bem.

  []s


Luís Cláudio A. Gama
Fones: TIM:  11-9 8452-4087   Res: 11-4602-3400
Skype: luisclaudiogama   http://luisgama.googlepages.com

br.linkedin.com/in/luisclaudiogama

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Data: 12 de dezembro de 2014 10:38
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Para: debian-user-portuguese debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org


Bom dia,

  Hoje pela manhã, iniciei meu wheezy normalmente, porém o jdownloader
comecou a fazer sua atualizaçao.

  A partir dai, senti que o mouse não estava funcionandonão
trocava mais os aplicativos, não fechava janelas e nem abria mais
nada.

  tentei fechar o kde e reiniciar o micro...tambem não foi possivel.

  fui na linha de comando e verifiquei que meu disco estava com 98%
cheio...não deveria...limpei o cache do aptitude, tirei coisas e
reduzi a 85%.

  ao matar um processo de um aplicativo que estava aberto, veio a
mensagem ksmserver not starting. please check your instalation

  movi o .kde para um .kde_bak e reiniciei a maquina...continua não funcionando.

  o kde abre, o mouse movimenta...os aplicativos são carregados, mas
não é possível clicar em nada...o teclado ainda funciona, pois posso
trocar para outro console ou CTRL+x.

  não fiz nada como root.

  SOCORRO!

Enviado por sinal de fumaça


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Re: Fwd: ksmserver not starting. check your instalation

[Enio Climaco Sales Junior]

Mas e o espaço em disco?
O baobab é um pacote que analiza seu espaço em disco, vendo pasta por 
pasta quais estão consumindo mais espaço no seu HD. Já o bleachbit é o 
CCleaner do Linux, limpa todos os arquivos desnecessários de sua 
máquina. Inicialmente, procure ver o que está comendo tanto espaço em 
disco assim da sua máquina, pois caso contrário, o problema persistirá.


On 12-12-2014 11:46, Luís Cláudio A. Gama wrote:

   Não sabendo o que causou, continuei fuçando.

   Entrei no recovery mode do debian. Senha de Root, entrada em modo texto.

   dei startx

   O kde abriu, mas com o mesmo problema.

   consegui fechá-lo com o teclado e voltei para a linha de comando.

   Dei exit e o sistema continuou a inicialização e rodou o kdeaí
começou a funcionar.

   Perdi somente minha config de desktopmas tudo bem.

   []s


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Bom dia,

   Hoje pela manhã, iniciei meu wheezy normalmente, porém o jdownloader
comecou a fazer sua atualizaçao.

   A partir dai, senti que o mouse não estava funcionandonão
trocava mais os aplicativos, não fechava janelas e nem abria mais
nada.

   tentei fechar o kde e reiniciar o micro...tambem não foi possivel.

   fui na linha de comando e verifiquei que meu disco estava com 98%
cheio...não deveria...limpei o cache do aptitude, tirei coisas e
reduzi a 85%.

   ao matar um processo de um aplicativo que estava aberto, veio a
mensagem ksmserver not starting. please check your instalation

   movi o .kde para um .kde_bak e reiniciei a maquina...continua não 
funcionando.

   o kde abre, o mouse movimenta...os aplicativos são carregados, mas
não é possível clicar em nada...o teclado ainda funciona, pois posso
trocar para outro console ou CTRL+x.

   não fiz nada como root.

   SOCORRO!

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Re: Fwd: ksmserver not starting. check your instalation

[Luís Cláudio A . Gama]

Olá Enio,

  Eu tinha feito uma análise usando o konqueror, mas com bleachbit eu
consegui mais 700Mbamanhã farei uma faxina geral no danado.

  Obrigado
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Em 12 de dezembro de 2014 15:23, Enio Climaco Sales Junior
eniocsjun...@gmail.com escreveu:
 Mas e o espaço em disco?
 O baobab é um pacote que analiza seu espaço em disco, vendo pasta por pasta
 quais estão consumindo mais espaço no seu HD. Já o bleachbit é o CCleaner
 do Linux, limpa todos os arquivos desnecessários de sua máquina.
 Inicialmente, procure ver o que está comendo tanto espaço em disco assim da
 sua máquina, pois caso contrário, o problema persistirá.


 On 12-12-2014 11:46, Luís Cláudio A. Gama wrote:

Não sabendo o que causou, continuei fuçando.

Entrei no recovery mode do debian. Senha de Root, entrada em modo
 texto.

dei startx

O kde abriu, mas com o mesmo problema.

consegui fechá-lo com o teclado e voltei para a linha de comando.

Dei exit e o sistema continuou a inicialização e rodou o kdeaí
 começou a funcionar.

Perdi somente minha config de desktopmas tudo bem.

[]s


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 Bom dia,

Hoje pela manhã, iniciei meu wheezy normalmente, porém o jdownloader
 comecou a fazer sua atualizaçao.

A partir dai, senti que o mouse não estava funcionandonão
 trocava mais os aplicativos, não fechava janelas e nem abria mais
 nada.

tentei fechar o kde e reiniciar o micro...tambem não foi possivel.

fui na linha de comando e verifiquei que meu disco estava com 98%
 cheio...não deveria...limpei o cache do aptitude, tirei coisas e
 reduzi a 85%.

ao matar um processo de um aplicativo que estava aberto, veio a
 mensagem ksmserver not starting. please check your instalation

movi o .kde para um .kde_bak e reiniciei a maquina...continua não
 funcionando.

o kde abre, o mouse movimenta...os aplicativos são carregados, mas
 não é possível clicar em nada...o teclado ainda funciona, pois posso
 trocar para outro console ou CTRL+x.

não fiz nada como root.

SOCORRO!

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Re: Fwd: ksmserver not starting. check your instalation

[Enio Climaco Sales Junior]

Bom saber disso, no entanto seria interessante você monitorar o que está 
levando tanto espaço em disco, e você pode fazer isso com o Baobab. 
Estou usando o jessie, e embora instale tudo que me vem à telha, com 
2103 pacotes instalados, meu raiz tem 12 GB usados (exceto meu /home). O 
KDE além de usar muito recurso do sistema, tem um tal de Nepomuk que me 
fez ter ojeriza desse ambiente. Talvez por isso poucas distros o usam. 
Te aconselho usar o XFCE, que é o padrão do Debian Jessie: faz tudo que 
os melhores desktop's faz, muito mais rápido e sem minar recursos do 
sistema.


On 12-12-2014 20:47, Luís Cláudio A. Gama wrote:

Olá Enio,

   Eu tinha feito uma análise usando o konqueror, mas com bleachbit eu
consegui mais 700Mbamanhã farei uma faxina geral no danado.

   Obrigado
Luís Cláudio A. Gama
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Em 12 de dezembro de 2014 15:23, Enio Climaco Sales Junior
eniocsjun...@gmail.com escreveu:

Mas e o espaço em disco?
O baobab é um pacote que analiza seu espaço em disco, vendo pasta por pasta
quais estão consumindo mais espaço no seu HD. Já o bleachbit é o CCleaner
do Linux, limpa todos os arquivos desnecessários de sua máquina.
Inicialmente, procure ver o que está comendo tanto espaço em disco assim da
sua máquina, pois caso contrário, o problema persistirá.


On 12-12-2014 11:46, Luís Cláudio A. Gama wrote:

Não sabendo o que causou, continuei fuçando.

Entrei no recovery mode do debian. Senha de Root, entrada em modo
texto.

dei startx

O kde abriu, mas com o mesmo problema.

consegui fechá-lo com o teclado e voltei para a linha de comando.

Dei exit e o sistema continuou a inicialização e rodou o kdeaí
começou a funcionar.

Perdi somente minha config de desktopmas tudo bem.

[]s


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Bom dia,

Hoje pela manhã, iniciei meu wheezy normalmente, porém o jdownloader
comecou a fazer sua atualizaçao.

A partir dai, senti que o mouse não estava funcionandonão
trocava mais os aplicativos, não fechava janelas e nem abria mais
nada.

tentei fechar o kde e reiniciar o micro...tambem não foi possivel.

fui na linha de comando e verifiquei que meu disco estava com 98%
cheio...não deveria...limpei o cache do aptitude, tirei coisas e
reduzi a 85%.

ao matar um processo de um aplicativo que estava aberto, veio a
mensagem ksmserver not starting. please check your instalation

movi o .kde para um .kde_bak e reiniciei a maquina...continua não
funcionando.

o kde abre, o mouse movimenta...os aplicativos são carregados, mas
não é possível clicar em nada...o teclado ainda funciona, pois posso
trocar para outro console ou CTRL+x.

não fiz nada como root.

SOCORRO!

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Re: change slapd during debian instalation

[Cyril Brulebois]

Hi,

paulo bruck paulobru...@gmail.com (2013-12-18):
 Is it possible to change slapd during debian install? I have done a lot of
 pachages wich depends on some changes at ldap and all this pachakes depends
 on this changes...
 
 Please let me know if I asking at the correct list.

I'm not sure which kind of changes you're thinking of, but I think your
question might be better asked on debian-user@ (cc'd).

Mraw,
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Re: Instalation and kernel headers

[Pedro Alexi Perez]

Hi all,
thanks to all. Finally I found what's happen. I do not why, my Debian 
i386 Installation CD install an amd64 kernel, butm aparently, as Dave 
Thayer says,


You might be running a 64-bit kernel in a 32-bit userspace

because the kernel was 64-bit but I cannot install the 64-bit version of 
Virtualbox.

I de-install the amd64 kernel headers and force to install a 32 bits kernel. 
Then I reboot with the new configuration (32-bit kernel) and reinstalled the 
Virtualbox. Now it seems that it is all ok.

Thanks to Ralf Mardof, Claudius Hubig, Camaleón and Dave Thayer, all of 
you helps me a lot!




El 13/05/12 06:37, Dave Thayer escribió:

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 09:50:52AM +0200, Pedro Alexi Perez wrote:

Hello,
I am trying to install Virtualbox, and after several times with the
same error, I try to check all the steps of the installation in
depth, and I see this message

First Installation: checking all kernels...
Building only for 2.6.32-5-amd64
Building initial module for 2.6.32-5-amd64

Then I check my kernel, and I see that (aparently) my installation
has the 64 bits architecture

$ uname -a
Linux linuxpc 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Sat May 5 03:03:41 UTC 2012
x86_64 GNU/Linux

But I am pretty sure I installed the 32 bits version. In fact, if I
revise the /etc/apt/sources.list file, I have this line

deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.4 _Squeeze_ - Official i386 DVD
Binary-1 20120128-12:53]/ squeeze contrib main

For sure, I tried to install the 64 bits version of Virtualbox, and
I got an error because the wrong architecture.
And, of course, my question is: what's happen? I have a 32 or 64
bits installation?

You might be running a 64-bit kernel in a 32-bit userspace. I ran such
a system for quite some time until my last HD upgrade.

Unfortunately, virtualbox is unhappy in such a system, so you have to
set up a 64-bit chroot. There's information on the VB wiki here:
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Setup_Jail. It's kind of a PITA, but
it works.

HTH

dt



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Re: Instalation and kernel headers

[Dave Thayer]

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 09:50:52AM +0200, Pedro Alexi Perez wrote:
 Hello,
 I am trying to install Virtualbox, and after several times with the
 same error, I try to check all the steps of the installation in
 depth, and I see this message
 
 First Installation: checking all kernels...
 Building only for 2.6.32-5-amd64
 Building initial module for 2.6.32-5-amd64
 
 Then I check my kernel, and I see that (aparently) my installation
 has the 64 bits architecture
 
 $ uname -a
 Linux linuxpc 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Sat May 5 03:03:41 UTC 2012
 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 
 But I am pretty sure I installed the 32 bits version. In fact, if I
 revise the /etc/apt/sources.list file, I have this line
 
 deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.4 _Squeeze_ - Official i386 DVD
 Binary-1 20120128-12:53]/ squeeze contrib main
 
 For sure, I tried to install the 64 bits version of Virtualbox, and
 I got an error because the wrong architecture.
 And, of course, my question is: what's happen? I have a 32 or 64
 bits installation?

You might be running a 64-bit kernel in a 32-bit userspace. I ran such
a system for quite some time until my last HD upgrade. 

Unfortunately, virtualbox is unhappy in such a system, so you have to
set up a 64-bit chroot. There's information on the VB wiki here:
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Setup_Jail. It's kind of a PITA, but
it works. 

HTH

dt
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Instalation and kernel headers

[Pedro Alexi Perez]

Hello,
I am trying to install Virtualbox, and after several times with the same 
error, I try to check all the steps of the installation in depth, and I 
see this message


First Installation: checking all kernels...
Building only for 2.6.32-5-amd64
Building initial module for 2.6.32-5-amd64

Then I check my kernel, and I see that (aparently) my installation has 
the 64 bits architecture


$ uname -a
Linux linuxpc 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Sat May 5 03:03:41 UTC 2012 x86_64 
GNU/Linux


But I am pretty sure I installed the 32 bits version. In fact, if I 
revise the /etc/apt/sources.list file, I have this line


deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.4 _Squeeze_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 
20120128-12:53]/ squeeze contrib main


For sure, I tried to install the 64 bits version of Virtualbox, and I 
got an error because the wrong architecture.
And, of course, my question is: what's happen? I have a 32 or 64 bits 
installation?


NOTE: To install Virtualbox, I follow the steps described in 
http://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox#Installation, Squeeze Backports


Best regards.

*

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Re: Instalation and kernel headers

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 09:50 +0200, Pedro Alexi Perez wrote:
 $ uname -a
 Linux linuxpc 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Sat May 5 03:03:41 UTC 2012 x86_64 
 GNU/Linux

The kernel should count, however you might have installed a wrong kernel
by some force option or by make install.

 /etc/apt/sources.list

This is just a list, you could add a Microsoft address or your favorite
search engine.

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Re: Instalation and kernel headers

[Claudius Hubig]

Hello Pedro,

Pedro Alexi Perez ppe...@lets.es wrote:
 $ uname -a
 Linux linuxpc 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Sat May 5 03:03:41 UTC 2012 x86_64 
 GNU/Linux
 
 deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.4 _Squeeze_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 
 20120128-12:53]/ squeeze contrib main

You can have a 64 bit kernel and a 32 bit userland. What is the output of

# dpkg --print-architecture 

?

I suspect that only 64 bit VirtualBox runs on 64 bit kernels, but I
am not sure about that. In any case, you should easily be able to
install a 32 bit kernel (though you might not be able to trivially
use all your memory if you do so).

You should also give the exact and complete output of the command
used to install VirtualBox, probably

# aptitude -t squeeze-backports install virtualbox

Best regards,

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Re: Instalation and kernel headers

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 11 May 2012 09:50:52 +0200, Pedro Alexi Perez wrote:

 I am trying to install Virtualbox, and after several times with the same
 error, I try to check all the steps of the installation in depth, and I
 see this message
 
 First Installation: checking all kernels... 
 Building only for 2.6.32-5-amd64
 Building initial module for 2.6.32-5-amd64
 
 Then I check my kernel, and I see that (aparently) my installation has
 the 64 bits architecture
 
 $ uname -a
 Linux linuxpc 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Sat May 5 03:03:41 UTC 2012 x86_64 
 GNU/Linux

Your finding matches the virtualbox installation output: you are running a 
64 bits kernel so you need the 64 bits headers and modules.

 But I am pretty sure I installed the 32 bits version. In fact, if I
 revise the /etc/apt/sources.list file, I have this line
 
 deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.4 _Squeeze_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 
 20120128-12:53]/ squeeze contrib main

Weird :-?

 For sure, I tried to install the 64 bits version of Virtualbox, 
 and I got an error because the wrong architecture. 

Wrong architecture? It does not seems to be so. Anyway, what was the error 
you got?

 And, of course, my question is: what's happen? I have a 32 or 64 bits 
 installation?

You are running a 64-bits Debian system, that's for sure. But to expand this, 
run ls -la /boot and put here the output.

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Re: instalation issue

[Camaleón]

On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:12:40 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

 On 2010-03-15 10:14, Camaleón wrote: 
 [snip]
 
 Today there are a few (none?) issues at all. Although there are still
 some counted applications that require a 32 bits OS to work.
 
 
 Counted?

I meant a small number of software (mainly proprietary drivers and 
software) is still only available for 32-bits OS. IIRC, Avasys (iscan) 
was not available for 64-bits environments not so long ago.

There are another apps that, while running fine under 64-bits OS, still 
require from the user some tweaks (Adobe AIR, Google Picasa, RealAudio 
codecs, Skype, upstream releases of Mozilla software...) and some others 
do not work at all (i.e., Parallels Workstation).

Greetings,

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Re: instalation issue

[Ron Johnson]

On 2010-03-16 05:34, Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:12:40 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 2010-03-15 10:14, Camaleón wrote: 
[snip]

Today there are a few (none?) issues at all. Although there are still
some counted applications that require a 32 bits OS to work.



Counted?


I meant a small number of software (mainly proprietary drivers and 
software) is still only available for 32-bits OS. IIRC, Avasys (iscan) 
was not available for 64-bits environments not so long ago.


Oh, ok.  It's a language thing...  :)

There are another apps that, while running fine under 64-bits OS, still 
require from the user some tweaks (Adobe AIR, Google Picasa, RealAudio 
codecs, Skype, upstream releases of Mozilla software...) and some others 
do not work at all (i.e., Parallels Workstation).




True.  For that, you can (depending on circumstances) either:
a) stay at 32 bits,
b) run a 64 bit kernel on an 32 bit system, or,
b) run a pure 64 bit system with 32 bit software in chroot.

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instalation issue

[Germana Oliveira]

If i have an HP with an Intel Centrino, 64bit, should i dowload the iso for
amd64 or 32?? or amd64 is just for AMD ¿?

Thanks!! (to answer this * question)

Re: instalation issue

[Jordan Metzmeier]

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Germana Oliveira
germanaolivei...@gmail.com wrote:
 If i have an HP with an Intel Centrino, 64bit, should i dowload the iso for
 amd64 or 32?? or amd64 is just for AMD ¿?

 Thanks!! (to answer this * question)


Most of the time, if you have to ask, you want i386. 64bit Intel CPUs
can run amd64.


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Re: instalation issue

[Ron Johnson]

On 2010-03-15 07:52, Germana Oliveira wrote:
If i have an HP with an Intel Centrino, 64bit, should i dowload the iso 
for amd64 or 32?? or amd64 is just for AMD ¿?


amd64 encompasses all PC-style (like your Centrino) 64-bit chips, 
whether they are made by AMD or Intel.



Thanks!! (to answer this * question)



Depends on what you want to do with the system.  If it's a desktop 
with a couple of GB of RAM, the 32 bit ISO will suite your requirements.


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Re: instalation issue

[Stephen Powell]

On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:52:24 -0400 (EDT), Germana Oliveira wrote:
 If i have an HP with an Intel Centrino, 64bit, should i dowload the iso for
 amd64 or 32?? or amd64 is just for AMD ¿?

I am not an expert on this; but if it's a 64-bit processor, you probably
want amd64 unless it's an Itanium, in which case you want ia64.  Look
through the literature to see if your processor has EM64T support.  If it
does, you want amd64.  See http://www.debian.org/ports/ for more information.
i386 will probably also work, but if you have more than 4G of RAM you will not
be able to exploit it to maximum effect unless you are running a 64-bit port.

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Re: instalation issue

[Jordan Metzmeier]

 I am not an expert on this; but if it's a 64-bit processor, you probably
 want amd64 unless it's an Itanium, in which case you want ia64.  Look
 through the literature to see if your processor has EM64T support.  If it
 does, you want amd64.  See http://www.debian.org/ports/ for more information.
 i386 will probably also work, but if you have more than 4G of RAM you will not
 be able to exploit it to maximum effect unless you are running a 64-bit port.


I am currently running i386 with 8gb of RAM using the -bigmem kernel.
As I understand, each process becomes limited by 3GB or so of RAM. I
can't really comprehend why any *desktop* user would need/want 64bit
at this time. Although, 64bit doesn't have the java and flash issues
it had not long ago, I would not be surprised if there is still some
hassle involved.

jor...@pc-tesla ~ $ uname -r
2.6.26-2-686-bigmem
jor...@pc-tesla ~ $ free -m
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:  8118   6335   1783  0386   3534
-/+ buffers/cache:   2415   5703
Swap: 4102  0   4101


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Re: instalation issue

[Odd]

Stephen Powell wrote:

On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:52:24 -0400 (EDT), Germana Oliveira wrote:

If i have an HP with an Intel Centrino, 64bit, should i dowload the
iso for amd64 or 32?? or amd64 is just for AMD ¿?


I am not an expert on this; but if it's a 64-bit processor, you
probably want amd64 unless it's an Itanium,


Centrino means it's definitely not Itanium. :)

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Re: instalation issue

[Camaleón]

On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:44:54 -0400, Jordan Metzmeier wrote:

 I am currently running i386 with 8gb of RAM using the -bigmem kernel. As
 I understand, each process becomes limited by 3GB or so of RAM. 

With a PAE enabled kernel, you (applications) can bypass that limit by 
using memory mapping (mmap) so there could some apps that will benefit 
for accessing over that 3 GiB on a per process basis.

 I can't really comprehend why any *desktop* user would need/want 64bit 
 at this time. 

As long as physical memory increases (beyond 8 GiB), there are 
performance penalties while using a 32 bits PAE kernel. It's said is 
better to switch into a pure 64 bits OS.

 Although, 64bit doesn't have the java and flash issues it had not
 long ago, I would not be surprised if there is still some hassle
 involved.

Today there are a few (none?) issues at all. Although there are still  
some counted applications that require a 32 bits OS to work.

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Re: instalation issue

[Ron Johnson]

On 2010-03-15 09:44, Jordan Metzmeier wrote:

I am not an expert on this; but if it's a 64-bit processor, you probably
want amd64 unless it's an Itanium, in which case you want ia64.  Look
through the literature to see if your processor has EM64T support.  If it
does, you want amd64.  See http://www.debian.org/ports/ for more information.
i386 will probably also work, but if you have more than 4G of RAM you will not
be able to exploit it to maximum effect unless you are running a 64-bit port.



I am currently running i386 with 8gb of RAM using the -bigmem kernel.
As I understand, each process becomes limited by 3GB or so of RAM. I
can't really comprehend why any *desktop* user would need/want 64bit
at this time. Although, 64bit doesn't have the java and flash issues
it had not long ago, I would not be surprised if there is still some
hassle involved.

jor...@pc-tesla ~ $ uname -r
2.6.26-2-686-bigmem
jor...@pc-tesla ~ $ free -m
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:  8118   6335   1783  0386   3534
-/+ buffers/cache:   2415   5703
Swap: 4102  0   4101




Because of the way that AMD designed the specification, it's 
possible to install a 64-bit kernel onto a 32-bit system.


That way, you have more efficient use of your RAM.  Besides, it's 
cool, especially to hack a combo of the 32- and 64-bit nvidia 
drivers and have it work perfectly!


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Re: instalation issue

[Ron Johnson]

On 2010-03-15 10:14, Camaleón wrote:
[snip]


Today there are a few (none?) issues at all. Although there are still  
some counted applications that require a 32 bits OS to work.




Counted?

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Re: instalation issue

[Stan Hoeppner]

Ron Johnson put forth on 3/15/2010 4:11 PM:

 Because of the way that AMD designed the specification, it's possible to
 install a 64-bit kernel onto a 32-bit system.

You wanna take another stab at that statement Ron?

Methinks you were suffering momentary thought dyslexia. ;)

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Re: instalation issue

[Ron Johnson]

On 2010-03-15 16:47, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

Ron Johnson put forth on 3/15/2010 4:11 PM:


Because of the way that AMD designed the specification, it's possible to
install a 64-bit kernel onto a 32-bit system.


You wanna take another stab at that statement Ron?


Nope.

$ uname -m
x86_64

$ file /bin/bash
/bin/bash: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18,
stripped

$ apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.33-2-amd64 | grep ^Architecture
Architecture: i386



Methinks you were suffering momentary thought dyslexia. ;)



Nope.  The AMD engineers who designed that architecture had true 
forethought.


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Re: instalation issue

[Stan Hoeppner]

Ron Johnson put forth on 3/15/2010 5:07 PM:
 On 2010-03-15 16:47, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 Ron Johnson put forth on 3/15/2010 4:11 PM:

 Because of the way that AMD designed the specification, it's possible to
 install a 64-bit kernel onto a 32-bit system.

 You wanna take another stab at that statement Ron?
 
 Nope.
 
 $ uname -m
 x86_64
 
 $ file /bin/bash
 /bin/bash: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
 dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18,
 stripped
 
 $ apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.33-2-amd64 | grep ^Architecture
 Architecture: i386
 
 
 Methinks you were suffering momentary thought dyslexia. ;)

 
 Nope.  The AMD engineers who designed that architecture had true
 forethought.

Yes, they did, to an extent, but it wasn't akin to leaping tall buildings in
a single bound.  If I'm reading your original statement correctly, I don't
think you really understand what that forethought was.

Just to make sure I'm reading your original statement correctly, and that
we're talking about the same thing here, when you state 32-bit system in
your original statement above, are you referring to the hardware, or are you
referring to replacing a 32 bit kernel on an existing 32 bit Linux
distribution installation with a 64 bit kernel?

If the former, you're smoking crack because it's physically not possible.
If the latter, you're giving credit to the wrong folks, and backing your
statement with a non-applicable reason.  The vast majority of the credit for
running 32 bit user space programs on top a 64 bit kernel goes to the Linux
kernel developer community, not the x86-64 engineers.  I think you're
attributing a bit of originality to these guys that doesn't apply.  A decade
before the x86-64 extensions were conceived and implemented, Alpha, MIPS,
SPARC, and PowerPC engineers did essentially the same thing.  In fact, many
Alpha engineers, including AMD's current CEO Dirk Meyer, went to work for
AMD after Compaq bought DEC and killed the Alpha off.  Ideas that went into
the 64 bit Alpha implementation were incorporated into x64-64.  The concept
wasn't new.  The forethought occurred a decade earlier when Meyer et al
designed the 21064, which, coincidentally, had to run the 32 bit VAX
instruction set in emulation.  All of that experience played a big role in
designing x86-64.

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Re: instalation issue

[Ron Johnson]

On 2010-03-15 18:54, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

Ron Johnson put forth on 3/15/2010 5:07 PM:

On 2010-03-15 16:47, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

Ron Johnson put forth on 3/15/2010 4:11 PM:


Because of the way that AMD designed the specification, it's possible to
install a 64-bit kernel onto a 32-bit system.

You wanna take another stab at that statement Ron?

Nope.

$ uname -m
x86_64

$ file /bin/bash
/bin/bash: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18,
stripped

$ apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.33-2-amd64 | grep ^Architecture
Architecture: i386



Methinks you were suffering momentary thought dyslexia. ;)


Nope.  The AMD engineers who designed that architecture had true
forethought.


Yes, they did, to an extent, but it wasn't akin to leaping tall buildings in
a single bound.  If I'm reading your original statement correctly, I don't
think you really understand what that forethought was.


Hmmm.


Just to make sure I'm reading your original statement correctly, and that
we're talking about the same thing here, when you state 32-bit system in
your original statement above, are you referring to the hardware, or are you
referring to replacing a 32 bit kernel on an existing 32 bit Linux
distribution installation with a 64 bit kernel?


Replacing a 32 bit kernel on an existing 32 bit Linux distribution 
installation with a 64 bit kernel.


See my above examples from 3/15/2010 4:11 PM which demonstrates 
that I'm running a 64 bit kernel on a 32 bit distro.



If the former, you're smoking crack because it's physically not possible.


It's foolish to attribute crackitude when you have half the needed 
information.



If the latter, you're giving credit to the wrong folks, and backing your
statement with a non-applicable reason.  The vast majority of the credit for
running 32 bit user space programs on top a 64 bit kernel goes to the Linux
kernel developer community, not the x86-64 engineers.


Without the AMD engineers building the needed features into the CPU, 
the kernel programmers wouldn't have been able to take advantage of 
them.



  I think you're
attributing a bit of originality to these guys that doesn't apply.  A decade
before the x86-64 extensions were conceived and implemented, Alpha, MIPS,
SPARC, and PowerPC engineers did essentially the same thing.  In fact, many
Alpha engineers, including AMD's current CEO Dirk Meyer, went to work for
AMD after Compaq bought DEC and killed the Alpha off.


I've been working on DEC/Compaq/HP kit for 20+ years.  Nothing you 
just wrote is new to me.



   Ideas that went into
the 64 bit Alpha implementation were incorporated into x64-64.  The concept
wasn't new.  The forethought occurred a decade earlier when Meyer et al
designed the 21064, which, coincidentally, had to run the 32 bit VAX
instruction set in emulation.


Under OpenVMS it was called VEST, and under NT/Alpha it was FX!32.


  All of that experience played a big role in
designing x86-64.



You're confusing forethought with ingenuity.

While 32-on-64 wasn't original to AMD (after all, OpenVMS still 
isn't *fully* 64-bit even after 16 years on the Alpha!), it was 
still forethought on the part of the AMD engineers to see that PC 
users would need/want a smooth path from 32 bits to 64 bits.


Or maybe Intel was just gobbsmackingly stupid for thinking that 
everyone would just dump all their perfectly functioning h/w and s/w 
to buy Itanium kit and AMD management was rational.


Yeah, that's probably it.

Besides, the Intel guys didn't think it was possible to extend ia32 
to 64 bits, but the AMD geeks had the ingenuity to figure out how.


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Re: Instalation net install et M3N78 SE

[Mathieu JANIN]

Le jeudi 05 février 2009, Florentin Garnier a écrit :
 Bonjour,

 J'ai voulu installer debian en net install mais le soucis est que ma
 carte réseau interne n'est pas reconnu par le programme d'install.
 j'aurai voulu savoir si qqn a cette mobo si qqn a réussi l'install.
 C'est un chipset nvidia nForce built-in Gigabit avec realtek 8211CL-GR PHY

 Merci ^^

 Flo

As tu pris la netinstall standard ou une daily-build ?
Sinon, quelle que soit la release, les netinstall permettent, si tu les 
démarrent en mode expert, d'installer la release de ton choix.
Tu peux donc installer une etch depuis une netinstall lenny, la carte sera 
peut être reconnue ?
Si c'est l'inverse, bon...
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Instalation net install et M3N78 SE

[Florentin Garnier]

Bonjour,

J'ai voulu installer debian en net install mais le soucis est que ma 
carte réseau interne n'est pas reconnu par le programme d'install. 
j'aurai voulu savoir si qqn a cette mobo si qqn a réussi l'install.

C'est un chipset nvidia nForce built-in Gigabit avec realtek 8211CL-GR PHY

Merci ^^

Flo

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Re: Instalation net install et M3N78 SE

[Florentin Garnier]

Mathieu JANIN a écrit :

Le jeudi 05 février 2009, Florentin Garnier a écrit :
  

Bonjour,

J'ai voulu installer debian en net install mais le soucis est que ma
carte réseau interne n'est pas reconnu par le programme d'install.
j'aurai voulu savoir si qqn a cette mobo si qqn a réussi l'install.
C'est un chipset nvidia nForce built-in Gigabit avec realtek 8211CL-GR PHY

Merci ^^

Flo



As tu pris la netinstall standard ou une daily-build ?
Sinon, quelle que soit la release, les netinstall permettent, si tu les 
démarrent en mode expert, d'installer la release de ton choix.
Tu peux donc installer une etch depuis une netinstall lenny, la carte sera 
peut être reconnue ?

Si c'est l'inverse, bon...
++, MATT

  

J'ai essayé avec le CD1 de debian amd64 c'est toujour pareil.
J'ai essayé d'installer la slack et mon chipset est reconnu comme étant 
protocole forcedeth un truc comme çà. De plus quand je lance une 
reconnaissance des disques il ne voit pas mon DD :( en SATA çà 
géle.. je pense que je doit avoir un truc qui n'est pas reconnu en 
amont vous en pensez quoi? genre chipset de la mobo


Ce que je trouve étrange c'est qu'avant j'avais Ubuntu et tout passé 
nikel et avec debian je suis bloqué a l'install :)


Voilà ma config compléte

Mobo : Asus M3N78 SE (chipset Nvidia Nforce)
Proc : AMD 64 X2 5600
DD : Westerne Digital 1 To Sata
Carte graphique : Asus EN9500GT MAgic hdmi
lecteur dvd sans importance en IDE

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Re: Instalation net install et M3N78 SE

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 Mathieu JANIN a écrit :
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 As tu pris la netinstall standard ou une daily-build ?
[...]
 J'ai essayé avec le CD1 de debian amd64 c'est toujour pareil.

La question c'est plutôt : « quelle version de la net install », dans le
sens version stable Etch, ou testing Lenny (rc2 ou daily-build) ? Vu le
nombre de versions et d'architectures, c'est vrai qu'il y a de quoi s'y
perdre un peu au début ;).

Amicalement

David

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Re: Instalation net install et M3N78 SE

[Florentin Garnier]

C'est vrai que je suis un débutant debian :p c'est pour l'ordi a ma femme du
coup elle n'a pas voulu etre patiente et j'ai du lui remettre ubuntu :(

Merci beaucoup pour le coup de main je testerai avec lenny dés que possible
:p.

Flo

2009/2/5 David Prévot dav...@altern.org

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 La question c'est plutôt : « quelle version de la net install », dans le
 sens version stable Etch, ou testing Lenny (rc2 ou daily-build) ? Vu le
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New debian user question about remote instalation

[Jaime Ventura]

Hello.
I'm using fedora for a long time, but now I will use debian.
I wounder if there any feature like redhat's kickstart for debian.
Thanks.
   Jaime



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Re: New debian user question about remote instalation

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 I'm using fedora for a long time, but now I will use debian.
 I wounder if there any feature like redhat's kickstart for debian.

The first page on google for 'kickstart for debian' [1] returns about
four tools that would do that job for debian.

Johannes

[1] http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/kickstart.html

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Re: New debian user question about remote instalation

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On 5/29/07, Jaime Ventura [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello.
I'm using fedora for a long time, but now I will use debian.
I wounder if there any feature like redhat's kickstart for debian.
Thanks.
Jaime



Appendix B of the debian installation manual talks about preseeding.
See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/index.html.en

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Re: instalation no desktop

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Sat, Mar 17, 2007 at 08:56:25PM -0200, bsaearp wrote:
 hi, i had downloaded d last version of debian and i am trying to install. 
 But, the problem is that there is no desktop...the packts don`t install. It 
 just ask my login and pass. but don`t iniciate. What am i doing wrong? 
 tanks a lot 
 be 
 
The debian-project list is not the correct list for your question.  You
would be better off asking on debian-user or debian-user-portuguese.
(I have CC'd debian-user-portuguese)

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Debian instalation

[Guillermo Garron]

Hi,

I have found some valuable info over the internet, and got some of it
to build my own server.

I put all that info in this page, hope could be useful to somebody.

http://www.go2linux.org/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=40Itemid=9

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RE: Debian instalation

[Kevin Ross]

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 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 5:15 PM
 To: Debian-Users List
 Subject: Debian instalation
 
 Hi,
 
 I have found some valuable info over the internet, and got some of it
 to build my own server.
 
 I put all that info in this page, hope could be useful to somebody.
 
 http://www.go2linux.org/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=40Itemid=9
 
 best regards,
 
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My comments:

- During installation, it asks you for a single word hostname, and you put
a FQDN.
- You chose manual partitioning, but the partition scheme you created
could have been done through guided partitioning.
- You go through a lot of trouble to run Bind in a chroot jail.  However,
you don't explain why you do it, and you don't explain the steps you're
taking.  Since this is supposed to be a beginner's howto, beginners won't
learn anything if you don't explain.  Personally, I'd get rid of Bind
and run a leaner, more secure DNS server, like PowerDNS.
- Since you're installing dovecot, there's no need to install saslauthd.
Dovecot has its own SASL authentication daemon.
- Since you're creating SSL certs, you shouldn't allow plaintext auth.
You should require TLS/SSL for plaintext auth.
- Under Spamassassin configuration, you created a user called spamfilter,
But in the postfix configuration, you're starting the spamchk script as
user filter.  Most like a typo.

Also, overall, there's very little in the way of helpful explanation
for someone new to Debian, which the document is supposed to be addressing.

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Re: instalation manuelle lilo

[Sylvain Sauvage]

[EMAIL PROTECTED], samedi 2 décembre 2006, 01:27:19 CET
 
 Bonjour

'jour,

 Toujours dans l'espoire d'installer debian sur mon macbook, j'ai
 installé debian via debootsrap via knoppix.
 Ca marche via chroot, c'est déja un premier pas, ça m'a permi
 d'installer un noyau 2.6.18 mais je n'arrive pas à m'en servir car je
 n'arrive pas à installer lilo :-(
 
 J'ai lu cette page : http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook qui explique
 comment installer debian normalement mais ça m'est complètement
 impossible car je ne peut pas me servir normalement du clavier
 pendant l'installation
 
 il est expliqué la demarche pour installer lilo, je cite :
 Switch back to the first virtual console by pressing ctrl-option-F1
 and select Go back in response to the Install the GRUB boot loader
 to the master boot record. Choose Install the LILO boot loader on a
 hard disk from the main menu and choose /dev/sda3 for the LILO
 installation target. Do not install LILO to the MBR! When the
 installer asks if you want to make this partition active, choose No.
 

  Ce sont les instructions qui guident dans le menu de l'installateur.
Étant donné que tu ne peux utiliser l'installateur, elles te sont
inutiles.

 seulement je suis en chroot avec debootstrap et je ne sait pas bien
 quel commande taper pour obtenir la même chose.
 
 si vous savez 

  Installe liloconfig (et vérifie le lilo.conf) ou écrit un lilo.conf
(tu peux peut-être en trouver un exemple pour ton MacBook quelque part)
puis lance 'lilo' dans ton chroot.

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instalation manuelle lilo

[pazelty]

Bonjour

Toujours dans l'espoire d'installer debian sur mon macbook, j'ai installé debian
via debootsrap via knoppix.
Ca marche via chroot, c'est déja un premier pas, ça m'a permi d'installer un
noyau 2.6.18 mais je n'arrive pas à m'en servir car je n'arrive pas à installer
lilo :-(

J'ai lu cette page : http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook qui explique comment
installer debian normalement mais ça m'est complètement impossible car je ne
peut pas me servir normalement du clavier pendant l'installation

il est expliqué la demarche pour installer lilo, je cite :
Switch back to the first virtual console by pressing ctrl-option-F1 and select
Go back in response to the Install the GRUB boot loader to the master boot
record. Choose Install the LILO boot loader on a hard disk from the main
menu and choose /dev/sda3 for the LILO installation target. Do not install LILO
to the MBR! When the installer asks if you want to make this partition active,
choose No.


seulement je suis en chroot avec debootstrap et je ne sait pas bien quel
commande taper pour obtenir la même chose.

si vous savez 

Rémi


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Re: Grub instalation

[Gilles Mocellin]

Le vendredi 22 septembre 2006 12:25, Thierry Chatelet a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 J'ai fais une install amd64 et l'installateur ne m'a proposé que lilo.
 Maintenant je veux le remplacer par grub. Voila ce que j'obtiens:
 #grub-install  /dev/sda
 /dev/mapper/Debian-root does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.

 J'ai monté les partitions avec lvm. Donc je mets mon fstab
 proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
 /dev/mapper/Debian-root /   ext3
 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0   1
 /dev/mapper/Debian-home /home   ext3defaults0   2
 /dev/mapper/Debian-tmp /tmpext3defaults0   2
 /dev/mapper/Debian-usr /usrext3defaults0   2
 /dev/mapper/Debian-var /varext3defaults0   2
 /dev/mapper/Debian-swap_1 noneswapsw  0   0
 /dev/hdc/media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
 /dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto  0   0

 Si qq'un pouvait m' aider à y voir clair...
 Merci
 Thierry 

Sur sarge en tout cas, j'ai du remplacer les /dev/mapper/vg-lv par /dev/vg/lv 
dans le fstab et le menu.lst de grub.

Au passage ça m'a permis de faire marcher mondo pour la 
sauvegarde/restauration disaster recovery.


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Re: Grub instalation

[Thierry Chatelet]

Gilles Mocellin wrote:

Le vendredi 22 septembre 2006 12:25, Thierry Chatelet a écrit :
  

Bonjour,
J'ai fais une install amd64 et l'installateur ne m'a proposé que lilo.
Maintenant je veux le remplacer par grub. Voila ce que j'obtiens:
#grub-install  /dev/sda
/dev/mapper/Debian-root does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.

J'ai monté les partitions avec lvm. Donc je mets mon fstab
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/mapper/Debian-root /   ext3
defaults,errors=remount-ro 0   1
/dev/mapper/Debian-home /home   ext3defaults0   2
/dev/mapper/Debian-tmp /tmpext3defaults0   2
/dev/mapper/Debian-usr /usrext3defaults0   2
/dev/mapper/Debian-var /varext3defaults0   2
/dev/mapper/Debian-swap_1 noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/hdc/media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
/dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto  0   0

Si qq'un pouvait m' aider à y voir clair...
Merci
Thierry 



Sur sarge en tout cas, j'ai du remplacer les /dev/mapper/vg-lv par /dev/vg/lv 
dans le fstab et le menu.lst de grub.


Au passage ça m'a permis de faire marcher mondo pour la 
sauvegarde/restauration disaster recovery.
  

Bonjour,
Merci de ta réponse. Comme c'était sur une nouvelle instal, j'ai 
recommencé en essayant différentes choses avec lvm. Et à un moment, ça 
m'a proposé d'installer Grub! Je pense que j'ai de la lecture à faire au 
niveau du fonctionnement de LVM!



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Re: Grub instalation

[Gilles Mocellin]

Le samedi 23 septembre 2006 10:47, Gilles Mocellin a écrit :
 Le vendredi 22 septembre 2006 12:25, Thierry Chatelet a écrit :
  Bonjour,
  J'ai fais une install amd64 et l'installateur ne m'a proposé que lilo.
  Maintenant je veux le remplacer par grub. Voila ce que j'obtiens:
  #grub-install  /dev/sda
  /dev/mapper/Debian-root does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
 
  J'ai monté les partitions avec lvm. Donc je mets mon fstab
  proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
  /dev/mapper/Debian-root /   ext3
  defaults,errors=remount-ro 0   1
  /dev/mapper/Debian-home /home   ext3defaults0   2
  /dev/mapper/Debian-tmp /tmpext3defaults0   2
  /dev/mapper/Debian-usr /usrext3defaults0   2
  /dev/mapper/Debian-var /varext3defaults0   2
  /dev/mapper/Debian-swap_1 noneswapsw  0  
  0 /dev/hdc/media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
  /dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto  0   0
 
  Si qq'un pouvait m' aider à y voir clair...
  Merci
  Thierry

 Sur sarge en tout cas, j'ai du remplacer les /dev/mapper/vg-lv par
 /dev/vg/lv dans le fstab et le menu.lst de grub.

 Au passage ça m'a permis de faire marcher mondo pour la
 sauvegarde/restauration disaster recovery.

Je me répond :
Je suis sous sid depuis longtemps, donc proche d'une etch quand même, et j'ai 
ma config LVM comme la tienne, avec les chemins /dev/mapper... et ça 
fonctionne.

Ça n'est donc probablement pas le problème...


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RE: Grub instalation

[Mathieu JANIN]

Bonjour
as tu essayé
# grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
?

 -Message d'origine-
 De : Thierry Chatelet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Envoyé : vendredi 22 septembre 2006 12:26
 À : DEBIAN Users French
 Objet : Grub instalation
 
 
 Bonjour,
 J'ai fais une install amd64 et l'installateur ne m'a proposé 
 que lilo. 
 Maintenant je veux le remplacer par grub. Voila ce que j'obtiens:
 #grub-install  /dev/sda
 /dev/mapper/Debian-root does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
 
 J'ai monté les partitions avec lvm. Donc je mets mon fstab
 proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
 /dev/mapper/Debian-root /   ext3
 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0   1
 /dev/mapper/Debian-home /home   ext3defaults  
   0   2
 /dev/mapper/Debian-tmp /tmpext3defaults   
  0   2
 /dev/mapper/Debian-usr /usrext3defaults   
  0   2
 /dev/mapper/Debian-var /varext3defaults   
  0   2
 /dev/mapper/Debian-swap_1 noneswapsw  
 0   0
 /dev/hdc/media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
 /dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto  0   0
 
 Si qq'un pouvait m' aider à y voir clair...
 Merci
 Thierry
 
 
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Re: Grub instalation

[Thierry Chatelet]

Mathieu JANIN wrote:

Bonjour
as tu essayé
# grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
?

  

-Message d'origine-
De : Thierry Chatelet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : vendredi 22 septembre 2006 12:26
À : DEBIAN Users French
Objet : Grub instalation


Bonjour,
J'ai fais une install amd64 et l'installateur ne m'a proposé 
que lilo. 
Maintenant je veux le remplacer par grub. Voila ce que j'obtiens:

#grub-install  /dev/sda
/dev/mapper/Debian-root does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.

J'ai monté les partitions avec lvm. Donc je mets mon fstab
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/mapper/Debian-root /   ext3
defaults,errors=remount-ro 0   1
/dev/mapper/Debian-home /home   ext3defaults  
  0   2
/dev/mapper/Debian-tmp /tmpext3defaults   
 0   2
/dev/mapper/Debian-usr /usrext3defaults   
 0   2
/dev/mapper/Debian-var /varext3defaults   
 0   2
/dev/mapper/Debian-swap_1 noneswapsw  
0   0

/dev/hdc/media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
/dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto  0   0

Si qq'un pouvait m' aider à y voir clair...
Merci
Thierry


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Merci de l'aide, mais si tu as vu mon message d'avant, j'ai trouvé une 
solution avant reformatant le DD et en réinstalant (3 fois!!!) et là, 
j'ai eu acces à Grub. Certainment une erreur de ma part!



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Grub instalation

[Thierry Chatelet]

Bonjour,
J'ai fais une install amd64 et l'installateur ne m'a proposé que lilo. 
Maintenant je veux le remplacer par grub. Voila ce que j'obtiens:

#grub-install  /dev/sda
/dev/mapper/Debian-root does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.

J'ai monté les partitions avec lvm. Donc je mets mon fstab
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/mapper/Debian-root /   ext3
defaults,errors=remount-ro 0   1

/dev/mapper/Debian-home /home   ext3defaults0   2
/dev/mapper/Debian-tmp /tmpext3defaults0   2
/dev/mapper/Debian-usr /usrext3defaults0   2
/dev/mapper/Debian-var /varext3defaults0   2
/dev/mapper/Debian-swap_1 noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/hdc/media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
/dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto  0   0

Si qq'un pouvait m' aider à y voir clair...
Merci
Thierry


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Instalation Hangs to Loading module sd_mod for scsi disk support

[Bietu]

Hi

Iam trying to install Debian 3.1r3 to my computer.
And it freeze at very beging in the first slider goes
to 92% and then it stops to this: 

Loading module sd_mod for scsi disk support

I think that this is very bad cos it seems that it
doesent like my sata raid. 

For me it would be okey cos i wanted to instal it into
my ide hd. But cant do that cos it hangs before i get
change to choose where to install it.


Specs:

CPU: Athlon XP 3000+
Mobo Chipset: nforce 2 ultra
2x512mb 400mhz memory
Geforce 7800GS
Audigy player

Silicon image Sata Raid controller 3512
2x 200Gb Seagate hd's in sata raid Windows 2000 pro
installed.

Samsung SP0411 ide hd Ubuntu 6.06 installed.

LG GSA-H20L - Lightscribe DVD/RW
LG GDR-8163B - DVD





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basic instalation system hang-up

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instalation ibm t40

[Baron Christophe]

Je viens d'acheter un T40 (d'occasion, encore dans son sac
en plastique). Je suis un peu impressionné, intimidé ;-).

Y'a Win.. dessus, système que je ne connais absolument pas...
Cependant, j'aimerais bien pouvoir le conserver, je ne sais pas
pourquoi, mais on ne sais jamais.
-- On peut sauvegarder le système sur cd ?
-- À la limite, je veux bien le garder sur mon HD, mais 
faudrait que je puisse redimentionner ...
-- Et puis ça m'embête qu'il soit en dessous des 1024 premier secteurs.

J'ai un CD d'installation de Sarge, qqun sait-il si des problèmes
particuliers sont susceptibles de se présenter ?
(Réseau notamment, il faut qu'il trouve la connection
tout de même).

Le cd me demande de choisir une ou des tâches, 
mon installation actuelle (pc bureau), est un peu lourde à mon goût,
Des conseils ?

Des conseils de sites ... ?

Merci d'avance,

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RE: instalation ibm t40

[Baron Christophe]

--- Baron Christophe [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

 Je viens d'acheter un T40 (d'occasion, encore dans son sac
 en plastique). Je suis un peu impressionné, intimidé ;-).
 
 Y'a Win.. dessus, système que je ne connais absolument pas...
 Cependant, j'aimerais bien pouvoir le conserver, je ne sais pas
 pourquoi, mais on ne sais jamais.
 -- On peut sauvegarder le système sur cd ?
 -- À la limite, je veux bien le garder sur mon HD, mais 
 faudrait que je puisse redimentionner ...
 -- Et puis ça m'embête qu'il soit en dessous des 1024 premier
 secteurs.

Donc, ça c'est résolu, je le mets à la poubelle.

Christophe

 
 J'ai un CD d'installation de Sarge, qqun sait-il si des problèmes
 particuliers sont susceptibles de se présenter ?
 (Réseau notamment, il faut qu'il trouve la connection
 tout de même).
 
 Le cd me demande de choisir une ou des tâches, 
 mon installation actuelle (pc bureau), est un peu lourde à mon goût,
 Des conseils ?
 
 Des conseils de sites ... ?
 
 Merci d'avance,
 
 Christophe
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
   
   

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cannot start instalation of debian 31r1

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Good day

I have some interesting problem, when i try to install debian 31r1 to my laptop.
Manufacturer is HP Compaq type Presario 2100. I was trying to install from 
debian cd. Internal cd-rom is out of order, so i'm using external one via usb. 
I get the boot screen, but when i reach the stage where i need to choose 
language, the keyboard isn't responding. If i chose the boot parameter linux 
debian-installer/probe/usb=false is goes ok, keyboard is working, but then i 
cannot mount cd, obviously i've chosen to not probe for usb.
Any ideas how to solve that?
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Re: cannot start instalation of debian 31r1

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On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 18:58:22 +0200 (GMT+02:00)
Dj MD __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Good day
 
 I have some interesting problem, when i try to install debian 31r1 to my 
 laptop.
 Manufacturer is HP Compaq type Presario 2100. I was trying to install from 
 debian cd. Internal cd-rom is out of order, so i'm using external one via 
 usb. I get the boot screen, but when i reach the stage where i need to choose 
 language, the keyboard isn't responding. If i chose the boot parameter linux 
 debian-installer/probe/usb=false is goes ok, keyboard is working, but then i 
 cannot mount cd, obviously i've chosen to not probe for usb.
 Any ideas how to solve that?

what if you switch over to a console at this point and modprobe the usb stuff?

A

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Re: kernel 2.6.14 instalation

[marvilleke]

Hi Wodzu, 

This is actually quite simple. The context of your
errormessage is that it can not mount your root file
system.
Please do read:
/usr/share/.../kernel-package/Howto-2.6??gz
In general I don't know the exact location of the
files/doc's anymore. But do a search with: find /
-name '*kernel*'-print |grep package

And check:
http://kerneltrap.org/node/799
http://myrddin.org/howto/debian-kernel-recompile.php
http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nlq=2.6+kernel+compiling+debianmeta=

have fun, 


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 I tried to compile and install a kernel, and I made
 kernel package (2.6.14.191105_i386.deb) Everything
 seemed to be ok, so I used 'dpkg -i
 kernel-image... and got a message that
 everything is ok. But when I rebooted the system I
 received 'kernel panic': 
 
 VFS: Cannot open root device hda5 or
 uknown-block(0,0)
 Please append a correct root= boot option
 Kernel panic- not syncing:VFS: Unable to mount root
 fs on unknown-block(0,0)
 
 Grub list file looks like that:
 
 Kernel 
 root(0,4)
 kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 ro
 
 
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Re: kernel 2.6.14 instalation

[loos]

Em Seg, 2005-11-21 às 04:23 +0100, Wodzu Wodzowski escreveu:
 Hy.
 I tried to compile and install a kernel, and I made kernel package 
 (2.6.14.191105_i386.deb) Everything seemed to be ok, so I used 'dpkg -i 
 kernel-image... and got a message that everything is ok. But when I 
 rebooted the system I received 'kernel panic': 
 
 VFS: Cannot open root device hda5 or uknown-block(0,0)
 Please append a correct root= boot option
 Kernel panic- not syncing:VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
 
 Grub list file looks like that:
 
 Kernel 
 root(0,4)
 kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 ro
 
 
 Can You tell me what's wrong, please??
 

Using standard debian .config, you need 
make-kpkg --initrd
Without initrd it just doesn' t work.

Michel.

Re: kernel 2.6.14 instalation

[Wodzu Wodzowski]

Dnia 21-11-2005 o godz. 13:13 marvilleke napisał(a):
 Hi Wodzu, 
 
 This is actually quite simple. The context of your
 errormessage is that it can not mount your root file
 system.

Hmmm, I can read : But I don't know why it can not mount root file system?? 
hda5 is proper root partition. I don't understand why it is doin' mounting on 
(0,0) [unknown-block(0,0)]. Can You explain it to me?


 Please do read:
 /usr/share/.../kernel-package/Howto-2.6??gz
 In general I don't know the exact location of the
 files/doc's anymore. But do a search with: find /
 -name '*kernel*'-print |grep package
 
 And check:
 http://kerneltrap.org/node/799
 http://myrddin.org/howto/debian-kernel-recompile.php
 http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nlq=2.6+kernel+compiling+debianmeta=
 
 have fun, 
 
 
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  I tried to compile and install a kernel, and I made
  kernel package (2.6.14.191105_i386.deb) Everything
  seemed to be ok, so I used 'dpkg -i
  kernel-image... and got a message that
  everything is ok. But when I rebooted the system I
  received 'kernel panic': 
  
  VFS: Cannot open root device hda5 or
  uknown-block(0,0)
  Please append a correct root= boot option
  Kernel panic- not syncing:VFS: Unable to mount root
  fs on unknown-block(0,0)
  
  Grub list file looks like that:
  
  Kernel 
  root(0,4)
  kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 ro
  
  
  Can You tell me what's wrong, please??
  
  
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kernel 2.6.14 instalation

[Wodzu Wodzowski]

Hy.
I tried to compile and install a kernel, and I made kernel package 
(2.6.14.191105_i386.deb) Everything seemed to be ok, so I used 'dpkg -i 
kernel-image... and got a message that everything is ok. But when I 
rebooted the system I received 'kernel panic': 

VFS: Cannot open root device hda5 or uknown-block(0,0)
Please append a correct root= boot option
Kernel panic- not syncing:VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)

Grub list file looks like that:

Kernel 
root(0,4)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 ro


Can You tell me what's wrong, please??


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Re: kernel 2.6.14 instalation

[Daniel Nilsson]

On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 04:23:00AM +0100, Wodzu Wodzowski wrote:
 Hy.
 I tried to compile and install a kernel, and I made kernel package
 (2.6.14.191105_i386.deb) Everything seemed to be ok, so I used
 'dpkg -i kernel-image... and got a message that everything is
 ok. But when I rebooted the system I received 'kernel panic':
 
 VFS: Cannot open root device hda5 or uknown-block(0,0)
 Please append a correct root= boot option
 Kernel panic- not syncing:VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
 
 Grub list file looks like that:
 
 Kernel 
 root(0,4)
 kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 ro
 
 
 Can You tell me what's wrong, please??
 

This has actually already been answered quite a few times... You might
want to look at this thread:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/11/msg02696.html

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Re: Minimal instalation

[Joseph Haig]

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 Mitja Podreka wrote:
 
  hello
 
  I have few old computers in a library and I want to set them up so
  that they will run Firefox for web browsing and nothing else.
  I've done a basic Sarge (net)install and then x-window + window
  manager + Firefox.
  Is there any better way? Is there a way to get even smaller load on
  the poor old computers?
 
 1. Thin client
 
 or
 
 2. Take the window manager out of the picture, using just x-window +
 Firefox (but you might have issues). To try this, create a ~/.xinitrc
 and put mozilla-firefox in it as the only line, kill any ?dm login
 managers, and start X manually with startx.

Searching on Google for 'firefox kiosk' I found this:

  http://php.unc.edu/ovcsa/payst/?p=2

which suggests that you do need at least a window manager.  In this
article they use IceWM, but I don't see why twm should work if you want
it to be as minimal as possible.

Also, if you are not dead set on using Firefox, you could try this
instead:

 
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=mozillacategory=Kiosk%20Browsingnumpg=10id=509

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[Mitja Podreka]

hello

I have few old computers in a library and I want to set them up so that 
they will run Firefox for web browsing and nothing else.
I've done a basic Sarge (net)install and then x-window + window manager 
+ Firefox.
Is there any better way? Is there a way to get even smaller load on the 
poor old computers?


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Re: Minimal instalation

[Kent West]

Mitja Podreka wrote:

 hello

 I have few old computers in a library and I want to set them up so
 that they will run Firefox for web browsing and nothing else.
 I've done a basic Sarge (net)install and then x-window + window
 manager + Firefox.
 Is there any better way? Is there a way to get even smaller load on
 the poor old computers?

1. Thin client

or

2. Take the window manager out of the picture, using just x-window +
Firefox (but you might have issues). To try this, create a ~/.xinitrc
and put mozilla-firefox in it as the only line, kill any ?dm login
managers, and start X manually with startx.

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Re: Problems with Instalation part deux

[Andrej Perdih]

Hello again,

does then anyone know if this NIC  Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet
  Controlle is supporded for debian if this is the problem?

Ragards andrej


On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 at 02:35:12, Clive Menzies wrote:

 On (12/07/05 01:41), Andrej Perdih wrote:
  Hello evry one again!
  
  As one of the menbers kindly informed me I am sending you more information
 in a
  seperate e-mail (thank you Clive for the reminder)
  
  My NIC card:
  
  Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet
  Controlle
  
  And perhaps my router:
  
  Lynksys EtherFast Cable/DSL Router eith 4-port switch
  
  If someone has the knowledge to inform me about the know-how of seting my
  networt, please send me the relevant detailed information. Namely I am
 unable to
  set my DHCP network when I install Debian core and subsequently I am the
 unable
  to download the rest of the OS via internet.
 
 A quick search on the internet revealed this:
 
 http://nixdoc.net/files/forum/post-187268.html
 
 which suggests that the card may not be supported just yet ... however,
 I may be wrong.  If noone else can suggest how to install the module for
 this, you could put a supported card in the machine and source the
 correct driver at your leisure.
 
 Realtek8139 is supported
 3com 3c592/5
 
 there are many others and a search on google for:
 debian sarge nic supported
 
 should give some info.
 
 Regards
 
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Problems with Instalation part deux

[Andrej Perdih]

Hello evry one again!

As one of the menbers kindly informed me I am sending you more information in a
seperate e-mail (thank you Clive for the reminder)

My NIC card:

Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet
Controlle

And perhaps my router:

Lynksys EtherFast Cable/DSL Router eith 4-port switch

If someone has the knowledge to inform me about the know-how of seting my
networt, please send me the relevant detailed information. Namely I am unable to
set my DHCP network when I install Debian core and subsequently I am the unable
to download the rest of the OS via internet.

Realy than you for everything again. Hope to hear for you soon

Rgards,

Andrej




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Re: Problems with Instalation part deux

[Clive Menzies]

On (12/07/05 01:41), Andrej Perdih wrote:
 Hello evry one again!
 
 As one of the menbers kindly informed me I am sending you more information in 
 a
 seperate e-mail (thank you Clive for the reminder)
 
 My NIC card:
 
 Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet
 Controlle
 
 And perhaps my router:
 
 Lynksys EtherFast Cable/DSL Router eith 4-port switch
 
 If someone has the knowledge to inform me about the know-how of seting my
 networt, please send me the relevant detailed information. Namely I am unable 
 to
 set my DHCP network when I install Debian core and subsequently I am the 
 unable
 to download the rest of the OS via internet.

A quick search on the internet revealed this:

http://nixdoc.net/files/forum/post-187268.html

which suggests that the card may not be supported just yet ... however,
I may be wrong.  If noone else can suggest how to install the module for
this, you could put a supported card in the machine and source the
correct driver at your leisure.

Realtek8139 is supported
3com 3c592/5

there are many others and a search on google for:
debian sarge nic supported

should give some info.

Regards

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Debian woody instalation problem

[Software Development Group]

I have installed DEBIAN woody on a new machine plus most of the software I 
could think of. When booting I can't get into X. When I manually do X I get 
normal messages (XF86Config-4 data) and then:


(EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration

Fatal error:
no screens found


Any ideas?


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Re: Debian woody instalation problem

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 12:57:52PM -0400, Software Development Group wrote:
 I have installed DEBIAN woody on a new machine plus most of the software I 
 could think of. When booting I can't get into X. When I manually do X I get 
 normal messages (XF86Config-4 data) and then:
 
 (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
 (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration
 
 Fatal error:
 no screens found
 
 
 Any ideas?

Install Sarge instead of Woody.  Sarge will officially be released in a
week or two.  The new installer has significantly better hardware
detection and a much better interface.

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Re: Debian woody instalation problem

[Marty]

Software Development Group wrote:
I have installed DEBIAN woody on a new machine plus most of the software I 
could think of. When booting I can't get into X. When I manually do X I get 
normal messages (XF86Config-4 data) and then:


(EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration

Fatal error:
no screens found


Any ideas?




Check the X log file /var/log/XFree86.0.log.  9 times out of 10
the problem will be obvious.  Then reconfigure X accordingly, or
post the log file here if you get stuck.


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instalation problem

[lado samushia]

Hi gays,

I'm gonna migrate to Linux and would like to install
Debian on my comp. I have already downloaded iso
images and burnt them on CDs; problem is that when I
insert the CD and restart it doesn't boot Debian (in
setup menu primary boot device is CD-ROM and when I
insert Windows XP installation disk it does).

could you help me, please, to figure out whats the
problem and how to fix it.

Sincerely,
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Re: instalation problem

[Sergio Basurto]

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:28:51 -0700 (PDT), lado samushia
wrote:

 
 Hi gays,
 
 I'm gonna migrate to Linux and would like to install
 Debian on my comp. I have already downloaded iso
 images and burnt them on CDs; problem is that when I
 insert the CD and restart it doesn't boot Debian (in
 setup menu primary boot device is CD-ROM and when I
 insert Windows XP installation disk it does).
 
 could you help me, please, to figure out whats the
 problem and how to fix it.
 
 Sincerely,
 Lado.
 

Did you try the cd's on other computer just for assure
that the images were burned correctly. 

Also if the cdrom is not recognized you will need to
make a floppy disk in order to boot.

The instructions are at:
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-rescue-boot.en.html#s-boot-from-floppies
5.3 Booting from Floppies


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Re: instalation problem

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

lado samushia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 I'm gonna migrate to Linux and would like to install
 Debian on my comp. I have already downloaded iso
 images and burnt them on CDs; problem is that when I
 insert the CD and restart it doesn't boot Debian (in
 setup menu primary boot device is CD-ROM and when I
 insert Windows XP installation disk it does).
 
 could you help me, please, to figure out whats the
 problem and how to fix it.

The most common reason for this problem is that you burned the CD the
wrong way. You need to create a CD from the image, not create a file
system on the CD and write the image to it. Check the contents of the
CD. If there is only the image file on the disc, you did it the wrong
way.

best regards
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Re: instalation problem

[linux]

Sergio Basurto wrote:
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:28:51 -0700 (PDT), lado samushia
wrote:
 

Hi gays,
I'm gonna migrate to Linux and would like to install
Debian on my comp. I have already downloaded iso
images and burnt them on CDs; problem is that when I
insert the CD and restart it doesn't boot Debian (in
setup menu primary boot device is CD-ROM and when I
insert Windows XP installation disk it does).
could you help me, please, to figure out whats the
problem and how to fix it.
Sincerely,
Lado.
   

Did you try the cd's on other computer just for assure
that the images were burned correctly. 

 

What software and what OS did you use to burn it?
It did happend to me before.
Try to look for an oftion to create ISO image when burning. I think that 
is what I messed up once when I burned the CD on NERO. Or iin some 
software it is an option track at once or something like that, but try 
to look for the ISO option first. It should burn an bootable ISO image. 
That was the problem I encountered when I did not burn in on Linux.

Also if the cdrom is not recognized you will need to
make a floppy disk in order to boot.
The instructions are at:
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-rescue-boot.en.html#s-boot-from-floppies
5.3 Booting from Floppies
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Instalation Debian sur SGI

[Alex PADOLY]

Bonjour à tous, 

Peut-on installer selon vous une Debian sur une machine Silicon graphics (Sgi 
Indy R4400).

Merci pour vos réponses.
Cordialement.

Alex PADOLY

Re: Instalation Debian sur SGI

[pascal]

Alex PADOLY a écrit :
Bonjour à tous, 


Peut-on installer selon vous une Debian sur une machine Silicon graphics (Sgi 
Indy R4400).

Merci pour vos réponses.
Cordialement.

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mail...Résultats j'ai envoyé mes réponses en privé. Donc Toutes mes plus 
plates aux destinataires.

Je re-poste sur la liste au cas où ça aiderait :

Google ne serait pas ton ami sur coup là ?

http://www.debian.org/ports/mips/

ou mieux :

http://www.pvv.org/~pladsen/Indy/HOWTO.html

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Probleme instalation disque usb

[loiz guillou]

Je viens d'installer une debian sarge sur un disque usb et lorsque je 
boot dessus, grub ce lance mais il me dit impossible de trouver une 
partion. Est ce qu'un autre boot loader resoluerai le probleme

Re: webmin instalation problem on sarge

[Jaldhar H. Vyas]

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004, Vadik wrote:

 I am running /sarge and I am trying to install webmin 1.150-1, but
 installation breaks.  Here is output:

 -
 xxx:/etc/logrotate.d# apt-get install webmin
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 Recommended packages:
   webmin-core
 The following NEW packages will be installed:
   webmin
 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
 Need to get 0B/1036kB of archives.
 After unpacking 5702kB of additional disk space will be used.
 Preconfiguring packages ...
 Selecting previously deselected package webmin.
 (Reading database ... 28879 files and directories currently installed.)
 Unpacking webmin (from .../webmin_1.150-1_all.deb) ...
 Setting up webmin (1.150-1) ...
 miniserv.pem: No such file or directory

 xxx:/etc/logrotate.d# ls /etc/webmin
 e5d488f2.0  miniserv.pem  miniserv.users
 -

 Any recommendation of what can be wrong?  My understanding that this
 error has something to do with openssh.


It doesn't seem that anything is wrong.  As part of the post-installation
script, webmin looks to see if you already have a miniserv ssl certificate
and creates it if you don't.

If you want to be absolutely sure the package is properly installed, do
dpkg -l webmin

If the first two letters on the line are ii, you are ok.

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Re: webmin instalation problem on sarge

[vadik]

xxx:/etc/logrotate.d# ls /etc/webmin
e5d488f2.0  miniserv.pem  miniserv.users
-
Any recommendation of what can be wrong?  My understanding that this
error has something to do with openssh.
   

It doesn't seem that anything is wrong.  As part of the post-installation
script, webmin looks to see if you already have a miniserv ssl certificate
and creates it if you don't.
If you want to be absolutely sure the package is properly installed, do
dpkg -l webmin
If the first two letters on the line are ii, you are ok.
 

I don't know what was going on, but after I purged it (not only removed) 
and then reinstalled, it started to work.

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webmin instalation problem on sarge

[Vadik]

I am running /sarge and I am trying to install webmin 1.150-1, but 
installation breaks.  Here is output:

-
xxx:/etc/logrotate.d# apt-get install webmin
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Recommended packages:
 webmin-core
The following NEW packages will be installed:
 webmin
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/1036kB of archives.
After unpacking 5702kB of additional disk space will be used.
Preconfiguring packages ...
Selecting previously deselected package webmin.
(Reading database ... 28879 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking webmin (from .../webmin_1.150-1_all.deb) ...
Setting up webmin (1.150-1) ...
miniserv.pem: No such file or directory
xxx:/etc/logrotate.d# ls /etc/webmin
e5d488f2.0  miniserv.pem  miniserv.users
-
Any recommendation of what can be wrong?  My understanding that this 
error has something to do with openssh.

Thanks,
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Re: Debian instalation

[Mariano Kamp]

On Sunday 07 December 2003 02:46, king kong wrote:
[ .. ]
 Oh, and don't get me go into the installer. It just
 plain
 sucks (Yeah, shoot me, I said it!). For god sake, we
 are almost passed half of the first decaded of the 21
 century, and we still can't have a good installer that
 recognizes the hardware properly. For my server, I
 didn't dare to buy any new hardware, only those that
 are at least 2 years old, and it still can't get it.
 E.g.
 DLink DFE-530TX, PT-Link cards, and some old
 ATI cards. I can pop Knoppix and Mepis in, and they
 just works fine. Same for RH, Mandrake and Suse.
 The package management is cool and fine, but if you
 can't get pass the installation, you can't use it.
Did you ever try the beta-1 of the new installer? Just curious ...
It worked very well for me and detected all the right stuff. Apart from having 
to use fdisk I believe almost everybody will be able to install Linux with 
it. 
And regarding the fdisk thing. I am not sure, but I believe to remember that 
there might have been an option to let the installer do the partitioning.

[..]
 Actually, we are evaluating
 the
 distros for a client with a 50-server installation in
 a
 data center. They gave the hardware specs, and I'm
 really concerned about the debian installation
 process.
That's very interesting. Especially for installing 50 systems with a common 
set of software it is debian coming to my mind, not any other distribution.

Cheers,
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Re: Debian instalation

[Mariano Kamp]

On Saturday 06 December 2003 13:18, Mihai P. B. Stiucan wrote:
 There would be an ideea to install it from scratch , but I'm not so
 experimented to keep track of the files by myself.

 I will be very happy if I will succed to do a debian based system with
 XFree86 4.0.1 at least, and KDE 3.1 using Grub boot loader.
Hi,

  welcome to Debian. A great choice ;-)

  The 128KBits line is a burden, but that should only be a problem if you are 
tracking unstable/sid. From yesterday to today I got 140 MB download (that is 
one day), but this won't happen if you go for testing/sarge. Between two 
releases of a package is a minimum gap of 10 days (afaik). 

  What kind of system are you setting up? A webserver you want to put on the 
net and never want to spare a second thought on it? Woody is probably good 
for you here. 
If you want more current software and are willing to take a little risk go for 
testing/sarge. Go to /etc/apt/sources.list and replace all stable with 
sarge. Enter apt-get update to update your package database and apt-get 
dist-upgrade for upgrading the whole installation. This will also add new 
packages which you haven't had before, but are now available in the stock 
sarge distro. You likely will have to download more than 100 MB. The good 
thing is that you can interrupt the download process at any time and resume 
just there when doing an dist-upgrade again.

Only problem with sarge is, that for some package with loads of dependencies 
it takes a long time to trach it. KDE 3.1 has taken ages.

Cheers,
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Debian instalation

[Mihai P. B. Stiucan]

Hello,

I am an RedHat user and now I saw that RedHat is no more available as a 
free distribution. So i want to switch to Debian. I found some help on 
the www.debian.org web site, but I still need some advices.

I saw there that they are 3 stages: stable, testing, unstable. For sure 
I choosed stable on my first pick,, got the images and installed it. 
After that, I noticed that all the utilities are old: XFree86, KDE, and 
most of the packages. I really need some new one, not necesarly the 
newest. Ok, ok, i know the new one are on testing, but I will assume the 
risk to use them.

Somebody told me to install woody and then to use apt-get to do some 
upgrades.

In fact I need some advices for install debian but with new packages. I 
don't have a big bandwidth internet access, just 128kb/sec, and I have 
only the woody CDs. What should i do? Just install woody and then 
upgrade using apt-get? How will this apt-get handle the Xfree86 or KDE 
upgrade? There are numerous files to upgrade, is it possible to keep 
track of all of them?

There would be an ideea to install it from scratch , but I'm not so 
experimented to keep track of the files by myself.

I will be very happy if I will succed to do a debian based system with 
XFree86 4.0.1 at least, and KDE 3.1 using Grub boot loader.

I need some advices, really.

Thanks for your time.

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Re: Debian instalation

[Kent West]

Mihai P. B. Stiucan wrote:

Hello,

I am an RedHat user and now I saw that RedHat is no more available as 
a free distribution. So i want to switch to Debian. I found some help 
on the www.debian.org web site, but I still need some advices.

I saw there that they are 3 stages: stable, testing, unstable. For 
sure I choosed stable on my first pick,, got the images and installed 
it. After that, I noticed that all the utilities are old: XFree86, 
KDE, and most of the packages. I really need some new one, not 
necesarly the newest. Ok, ok, i know the new one are on testing, but I 
will assume the risk to use them.

For the most part, testing and unstable are quite usable on a desktop 
workstation that doesn't need 24x7 reliability. I run sid (unstable) on 
all my workstations (stable (woody) on my servers), and every few 
upgrades (I usually upgrade about twice a week on my main workstations 
to get the newest toys) see some sort of glitch, ranging from some one 
or three packages that gets broken (usually something I can live without 
for a few days until it gets fixed) to a more serious problem such as 
the pam problem a couple of years ago which prevented any new logins. 
I've found sid to be easier to live with than testing, because whereas 
testing is more stable, when a bug does show up in testing it usually 
takes longer for the fix to show up, because it's, um, more stable than 
the constantly fluxing unstable (sid).

Somebody told me to install woody and then to use apt-get to do some 
upgrades.

In fact I need some advices for install debian but with new packages. 
I don't have a big bandwidth internet access, just 128kb/sec, and I 
have only the woody CDs. What should i do? Just install woody and then 
upgrade using apt-get? How will this apt-get handle the Xfree86 or KDE 
upgrade? There are numerous files to upgrade, is it possible to keep 
track of all of them?

128kb/sec will be slow, but I've done upgrades over a 33.3kb modem on 
two or three occassions. It works, but slowly. The problem with the slow 
speed is that the packages change in sid faster than you can download 
them sometimes.

Still, I think the easiest route for you would be to point you 
/etc/apt/sources.list at a Debian mirror's testing or unstable 
repositories, then run
   apt-get update
   apt-get upgrade
and sit back and let the magic work.

You might run into a few glitches, since you're going from a supported 
version to an unsupported version that's still in flux and is not 
guaranteed to upgrade smoothly, but I don't think you'll run into any 
great problems.

There would be an ideea to install it from scratch , but I'm not so 
experimented to keep track of the files by myself.

I will be very happy if I will succed to do a debian based system with 
XFree86 4.0.1 at least, and KDE 3.1 using Grub boot loader.

After the above-mentioned update/upgrade, you'll still have lilo instead 
of grub. So you'll then need to run apt-get install grub, and then 
configure grub. I've done it a time or two, but my brain just hasn't 
quite wrapped itself around grub's configuration yet, so I can't help on 
that score.

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Re: Debian instalation

[Arthur Barlow]

On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:18:22 +0200, Mihai P. B. Stiucan wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I am an RedHat user and now I saw that RedHat is no more available as a 
 free distribution. So i want to switch to Debian. I found some help on 
 the www.debian.org web site, but I still need some advices.
 
 I saw there that they are 3 stages: stable, testing, unstable. For sure 
 I choosed stable on my first pick,, got the images and installed it. 
 After that, I noticed that all the utilities are old: XFree86, KDE, and 
 most of the packages. I really need some new one, not necesarly the 
 newest. Ok, ok, i know the new one are on testing, but I will assume the 
 risk to use them.
 
 Somebody told me to install woody and then to use apt-get to do some 
 upgrades.
 
 In fact I need some advices for install debian but with new packages. I 
 don't have a big bandwidth internet access, just 128kb/sec, and I have 
 only the woody CDs. What should i do? Just install woody and then 
 upgrade using apt-get? How will this apt-get handle the Xfree86 or KDE 
 upgrade? There are numerous files to upgrade, is it possible to keep 
 track of all of them?
 
 There would be an ideea to install it from scratch , but I'm not so 
 experimented to keep track of the files by myself.
 
 I will be very happy if I will succed to do a debian based system with 
 XFree86 4.0.1 at least, and KDE 3.1 using Grub boot loader.
 
 I need some advices, really.
 
 Thanks for your time.

I agree with Kent.  I have used Debian and Red Hat and now I much prefer
Debian as the package management IMHO is much better.  I've used stable,
testing, and unstable and I concur that unstable is actually very stable
for a desktop.  I'm using it to send this message with PAN.  Give Sid a
try and I think you'll like it.  If you need some instructions to set up
Grub try this link:

http://myrddin.org/howto/debian-grub.html



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Re: Debian instalation

[csj]

On 6. December 2003 at 2:18PM +0200,
Mihai P. B. Stiucan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am an RedHat user and now I saw that RedHat is no more
 available as a free distribution. So i want to switch to
 Debian. I found some help on the www.debian.org web site, but I
 still need some advices.

I'm a Debian User myself ;-), but since you're already a Red Hat
user you might want to consider the Fedora distribution:
http://fedora.redhat.com/.  Debian after all does some things
differently.


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Re: Debian instalation

[Paul Johnson]

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On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 02:18:22PM +0200, Mihai P. B. Stiucan wrote:
 I saw there that they are 3 stages: stable, testing, unstable. For sure 
 I choosed stable on my first pick,, got the images and installed it. 
 After that, I noticed that all the utilities are old: XFree86, KDE, and 
 most of the packages. I really need some new one, not necesarly the 
 newest. Ok, ok, i know the new one are on testing, but I will assume the 
 risk to use them.

http://www.apt-get.org/  Check for backports.

 Somebody told me to install woody and then to use apt-get to do some 
 upgrades.

Woody == Stable.

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Re: Debian instalation

[king kong]

Hehe, I know the feeling :) Started with Slackware,
went to RH, tried Suse, Mandrake and Gentoo (later)
sometimes along the way, and have stayed with RH 
consistently since 5.2.

Kent gave an intro already to upgrade your system,
you just have to specify in the apt source list which
one you want. I haven't played with mixed installation
(stable + testing + sid) yet. 

I don't like old desktops, so I upgrade my computers 
to sid. After using it for a month on my laptop and 
on two  test servers (no GUI though), it seems
good enough so I put them in real production use. 
Ok, small office, with a few servers and
firewall/gateway
only.

If you are new to debian but know linux well, don't 
bother with the debian directly. Get Knoppix or
Mepis installed on your machine first, and upgrade
later. Will save you tons of time and frustration.

I think your connection (128K) should be good enough
to do the upgrade, if you can find a mirror that can
give consistent download.

The only thing I don't like is, even with sid, a lot
of 
the packages are still old compared to other distros
(Mandrake always has the most recent).  And a few
of them just don't work (e.g. mrproject,
fwbuilder,...).
I'll maintain some nightly/weekly build when I learn
how to do my own deb packaging.

And i18n/l10n is not as good either. I still can't get
it to display Chinese in my gnome-terminal despite 
that I have made all the necessary config/fonts and
installed
and loaded the right nls packages of the filesystem.
Applications can display/input Chinese just fine, the
filesystem can't. RH and Mandrake just have the best
support on this.

Oh, and don't get me go into the installer. It just
plain 
sucks (Yeah, shoot me, I said it!). For god sake, we 
are almost passed half of the first decaded of the 21
century, and we still can't have a good installer that
recognizes the hardware properly. For my server, I 
didn't dare to buy any new hardware, only those that
are at least 2 years old, and it still can't get it.
E.g. 
DLink DFE-530TX, PT-Link cards, and some old
ATI cards. I can pop Knoppix and Mepis in, and they
just works fine. Same for RH, Mandrake and Suse.
The package management is cool and fine, but if you
can't get pass the installation, you can't use it. 

All my installations start with Knoppix, and then back
to
the debian upgrade.

But Knoppix and Mepis have very primitive installer,
you 
can't really specify your way of partitioning the
disk.
You have to partition your disk, format your
filesystem,
after installing knoppix, copy the files/directories
to 
the partition you want, and make changes to your
fstab, etc And Knoppix/Mepis only come with KDE
and I prefer Gnome, while gnoppix is not ready yet,
have to do about 300MB of install from apt-get to get
my desktop to the way I like it (almost...) after
spending
all these times downloading the Knoppix/Mepis and
debian ISO already :(

Someone please make a good installer (something is
going on here, but not ready yet), and start some
kind of donation campaign, a la Mandrake Club or
something. I'll put my money where my mouth is.
I currently already have 3 machines running debian
in production, and I'll pay for a good installer for
my future installation. Actually, we are evaluating
the
distros for a client with a 50-server installation in
a
data center. They gave the hardware specs, and I'm
really concerned about the debian installation 
process.

I have always paid for my RH and Mandrake, retail
box version though, to encourage them to make 
good desktop and encourage the stores to carry them.

Sorry, long rant. I like the package mgmt though, on
the condition that you can get it up and running
first.

kk


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Re: Debian instalation

[Kent West]

king kong wrote:

Someone please make a good installer (something is
going on here, but not ready yet), and start some
kind of donation campaign, a la Mandrake Club or
something. I'll put my money where my mouth is.
 

I believe it's called Xandros or Libranet.

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Re: Problem with instalation Debian on Be6 II

[Paul Mackinney]

MarekL declaimed:
 I want to install debian. When I try to install it, I have a message, 
 that there is no hard disk. Help me what to do. Please I m new user of 
 debian so send me very understable explanation.Pozdro
This list will give you the best help if you give us the exact text of
the error. It would also be helpful to know generally what your system
is like (what CPU? what hard drive?)

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Problem with instalation Debian on Be6 II

[MarekL]

I want to install debian. When I try to install it, I have a message, 
that there is no hard disk. Help me what to do. Please I m new user of 
debian so send me very understable explanation.Pozdro



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Instalation einer aktuellen Paketversion von qtella

[Thomas Heimroth]

Wie kann man unter debian mit apt-get eine aktuelle paketversion mit all
ihren abhängigkeiten automatisch installieren. Der Ort des Paketes:

http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/qtella.html

Ich habe dieses Paket manuel heruntergeladen, und wollte es mit dpkg -i
installieren, doch hört dieser auf wegen den fehlenden Abhängigkeiten
(libc6, libgcc1,...)

Also benötige ich noch die aktuellen paketversionen dieser pakete. Aber
wie kann ich mit Hilfe Hilfe von apt-get automatisieren und was muss ich die
/etc/apt/sources.list eintragen, damit dies funktioniert?

Thomas


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Re: Instalation einer aktuellen Paketversion von qtella

[Andreas Pakulat]

On 13.Jun 2003 - 15:43:37, Thomas Heimroth wrote:
 Wie kann man unter debian mit apt-get eine aktuelle paketversion mit all
 ihren abhängigkeiten automatisch installieren. Der Ort des Paketes:
 
 http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/qtella.html
 
 Ich habe dieses Paket manuel heruntergeladen, und wollte es mit dpkg -i
 installieren, doch hört dieser auf wegen den fehlenden Abhängigkeiten
 (libc6, libgcc1,...)
 
 Also benötige ich noch die aktuellen paketversionen dieser pakete. Aber
 wie kann ich mit Hilfe Hilfe von apt-get automatisieren und was muss ich die
 /etc/apt/sources.list eintragen, damit dies funktioniert?

Du kennst dich mit der Paketverwaltung noch nicht aus? Dann würde ich
die empfehlen suche auf www.apt-get.org nach einem Backport des
aktuellen qtella für woody - du hast doch sicher woody oder? Dort steht
auch was in die sources.list.

Wenn du allerdings experimentierfreudig bist, viel über das Paketsystem
lernen willst, furchtlos bist und etwas mehr Freizeit hast kannst du
auch dein System auf unstable upgraden, dazu musst du das stable oder
woody in deiner sources.list in unstable ändern. Dann klappt das
automatisch mit den Abhängigkeiten und du brauchst nur ein apt-get
install qtella für die neueste Version. Aber sei gewarnt, unstable ist
meist problemlos zu betreiben, es kann aber rein theorethisch jeden Tag
dazu kommen das Pakete dein System zerlegen, letztens z.B. war das X11
Paket kaput derart das nur noch ein grafischer Login mittels gdm ging.

Andreas

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Bad traduction for catalan in the Debian CD 3.0 r1 instalation.

[xxxyyyzzz85]

I'm a new user of the Debian. Recently, I installed Woody 3.0 r1 in the
i386-non-US binary version.

I installed it in catalan language. I detect a bad expression: at the
beggining of one dialog, it appears Teniu que [...] rather than Heu
de [...]. This is an incorrect expression. It's a calcation (copy) of
the spanish expression Tenéis que and it's incorrect.

Apart of this, I detect some non-standard traduction. For example, the
use of açò is local or if we use in standard registry, then it's
anachronic. But, strictly, it's correct. It's only a suggestion.

I don't know who traducts the Debian to catalan. If I know it, I would
send this mail to that person/s. I don't know how can I do with this
translation error.

I posted it in Usenet:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8safe=offthreadm=4ab4b039.0303182358.63fbc646%40posting.google.comrnum=4prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dxxxyyyzzz85%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26safe%3Doff%26scoring%3Dd
but no one heard me!

I send this mail to you for you doing the right thing.


Best regards,
An interested user.


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