Re: difficulty downloading packages, is ftp.us.debian.org having a problem?

2012-07-20 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

Keep in mind that Debian is currently migrating to Wheezy.

Cheers,
Jerome


On 20/07/12 08:20, Britton Kerin wrote:

Hi everyone,

I keep trying to download a big pile of packages and most of them keep failing.
Internet is working and I can ping things, but most of the packages always fail.

I'm wondering if ftp.us.debian.org is really overloaded or something?

Thanks,
Britton





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Re: difficulty downloading packages, is ftp.us.debian.org having a problem?

2012-07-20 Thread Jerome BENOIT

my mistake.

On 20/07/12 09:48, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Vi, 20 iul 12, 08:25:23, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

Hello List:

Keep in mind that Debian is currently migrating to Wheezy.


What do you mean by that? Wheezy is not being released just yet, it's
just been frozen (it will take a few more months).

Kind regards,
Andrei



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Re: UEFI install

2012-08-10 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Have you tried with Wheezy ?

On 10/08/12 11:17, Martin Steigerwald wrote:

Am Donnerstag, 9. August 2012 schrieb Greg Madden:

On Thursday 09 August 2012 4:37:05 am L V Gandhi wrote:

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Gary Dalegaryd...@rogers.com  wrote:

On 08/08/12 08:48 PM, L V Gandhi wrote:

Has any one installed dual boot system of windows and squeeze in
ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD?
Kindly give links or procedure to keep windows and linux.


You don't have to do anything special. Just partition the disks the
way you like. Linux installers normally expect that dual booting
is a common requirement so they usually handle it pretty well.


I think it is not so easy as I have googled it. Intel RST, UEFI etc
making things difficult and many have bricked their system. Hence my
post.


I think the issues you read about are for Windows 8 and the 'secure
boot' feature of the UEFI bios?

I have not tried Squeeze, Wheezy works fine on a Thinkpad with the UEFI
bios, SSD  mSata.


I think Squeeze does not support UEFI properly. It would at least need
a 3.2 backport kernel

What did you do to make it work? I have tried two times to get
either of:

- GPT + UEFI
- MBR + UEFI
- GPT + BIOS

to work on a ThinkPad T520 and the only think that works right now is

- MBR + BIOS

My problem was that the UEFI boot menu never offered to boot from the
EFI boot partition that I made. I think I might have been missing some
efibootmgr magic that was explained here or elsewhere before, but as you
managed to get to work, I´d like to know the exact steps or a link to a
guide that works, before trying again. Why the GPT + BIOS stuff did not
work is beyond me – I hat a BIOS boot partition for GRUB and grub-install
also seemed to use it.

I bet its not really faster tough since the ThinkPad doesn´t take much
time in the BIOS anyway. And due to LVM I do not really need GPT, but it
would be nice to have it anyway.

Thanks,



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Re: man in the middle attack ?

2012-08-20 Thread Jerome BENOIT

http://lackof.org/taggart/hacking/ssh/  - Don't ignore ssh host key warnings 
(at the end)

On 21/08/12 05:43, lina wrote:

On Tuesday 21,August,2012 04:29 AM, Dr Beco wrote:

Dear linuxers,


Today I registered a lot of students in the class, and 4 hours later I
was in home and got a message one of them could not log in.

So I tried and got this message:


@@@
@WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @
@@@
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY!
Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)!
It is also possible that the RSA host key has just been changed.
The fingerprint for the RSA key sent by the remote host is
66:09:66:e3:e1:54:dc:65:e4:a4:74:99:c4:df:3e:ff.
Please contact your system administrator.
Add correct host key in /home/beco/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this message.
Offending key in /home/beco/.ssh/known_hosts:1


I met similar things many times, you may just simply
vim /home/beco/.ssh/known_hosts
delete the line 1 key there, or you may delete all.
and ssh again,

Thanks,

Best regards,

RSA host key for beco.poli.br has changed and you have requested
strict checking.
Host key verification failed.


What should I do, or where should I look, to understand this problem?

Can I log in with my account remotely to see the problem, or should I
better log in locally?


Thanks,
Beco.








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Re: compressor

2012-08-22 Thread Jerome BENOIT

gz: tar zcf
bzip2: tar jcf
xz: tar Jcf


On 22/08/12 16:07, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

PPS: For my needs tar czf aka .tar.gz is the best way to go. More
compression doesn't lead to smaller files, but it takes much more time.





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Re: compressor

2012-08-22 Thread Jerome BENOIT



On 22/08/12 16:24, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 16:15 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

xz: tar Jcf


I'm using a distro that packages with xz.

I'm sure that there never was a big difference between
gz: tar zcf and bzip2: tar jcf for the length of the files,



that higly depends on the nature of the files:
if the files are compressed file, teh difference is zero;
otherwise `xz -9e' is most of the time better.


but the

time for packing and unpacking does differ very much.


bzip2 compression is a good compromised between speed and size.

xz compresses slowly, but decompress fastly.

Other criteria can enter into account:
if rsync is used, tricks may be applied.

Jerome


 Speaking for Linux

backups and audio data backups.





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Re: Obtaining a Newer Kernel

2012-08-26 Thread Jerome BENOIT



On 27/08/12 05:30, lina wrote:

On Monday 27,August,2012 11:13 AM, Alex Robbins wrote:

On 08/26/2012 09:48 PM, Charles Kroeger wrote:

or you could install: linux-headers-amd64 linux-image-amd64 this would
insure you always had the latest kernel and headers. Your architecture
may be different so you might want to look to that in regard to my
examples.

This does not at all answer my question.  (And I already have
linux-image-amd64
installed.)
The first paragraph of the original email:

I am running Debian testing, which currently has kernel 3.2.23-1, same as
unstable.  experimental has 3.5.something.  I am looking to run kernel
version
3.3 or higher.




Here is what I did,

1] Download the latest stable from kernel.org

2] copy old .config from currently working one

Here is one link, recommended by someone from list to me before.

http://andreas.goelzer.de/kernel-config-based-on-lsmod-output

and then run configure and make-kpkg


more precisely:

make oldconfig
make-kpkg ...



Frankly speaking, in the past several kernel I tried, even though I do
believe it's built very blindly, but overall it works. For the security
reason you concerned, I don't know, but stability are very well.

Best regards,





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Re: What Version To Install On iMac?

2012-09-07 Thread Jerome BENOIT



On 07/09/12 16:34, Camaleón wrote:

On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 23:28:25 -0700, T Elcor wrote:


- Original Message -

Hello, I would like to know which version of Debian 6 I would download
for installing on iMac with specifications shown below.

Model Name:iMac
Model Identifier:iMac8,1
Processor Name:Intel Core 2 Duo


amd64 or i386 both should work, I would go with amd64 (see
http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ ).


I'm usually in favor of 64-bits but when it comes to Apple products I
would first ensure all their special hardware have the corresponding
drivers available for 64-bits.


I would also install Debian 7 (wheezy) as Debian 6 will probably be
deprecated soon.


Installing Squeeze shouldn't be much problematic given the computer is
~3/4years old and there's still the bakported packages, should needed.

OTOH, Debian 6 has (more or less) one year and a half of support (when
Wheezy is out -and that should happen around February, 2013-



in 6 months !?


 Squeeze will

become then the oldstable and will receive security fixes and patches
until Jessie comes to play or a year later).

Greetings,




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icedove and IceOwl: ICS attachment

2012-09-24 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

I use IceDove to manage my emails. Today I got a message with an ICS (Calendar) 
attachment.
IceOwl detects the event: a banner ``This message contains an invitation to an 
event'' is printed.
But, amazingly, I can not figure out a way to make IceOwl register the event:
any idea ?

Thanks in advance,
Jerome


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Re: icedove and IceOwl: ICS attachment

2012-09-24 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

On 24/09/12 16:30, Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 13:20:17 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


I use IceDove to manage my emails. Today I got a message with an ICS
(Calendar) attachment. IceOwl detects the event: a banner ``This message
contains an invitation to an event'' is printed. But, amazingly, I can
not figure out a way to make IceOwl register the event: any idea ?


It should be handled (added) automatically by the calendar, at least
that's what happens with iceowl-extension.


iceowl-extension is installed



Do you have the .ics mimetype associated to IceOwl?


I guess not: how can I check that part of the Story ?




P.S. Consider a replacement for IceOwl (Sunbird) because AFAICT is not
being maintained upstream anymore.


This is true.

What is the suggested replacement ?

Jerome



Greetings,




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Re: Current status for wl driver in Wheezy

2012-09-24 Thread Jerome BENOIT



On 24/09/12 19:13, Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:14:52 +, Camaleón wrote:

(...)


so can anyone confirm the wl driver cannot be compiled right now in
Wheezy?



Are you dealing with broadcom-sta ( 
http://packages.debian.org/source/wheezy/broadcom-sta ) ?
It works well on my Wheezy box.

Jerome



(...)

No one using the wl driver in wheezy? W-o-w:-)

Greetings,




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Re: icedove and IceOwl: ICS attachment

2012-09-24 Thread Jerome BENOIT



On 24/09/12 18:50, Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 17:33:52 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


Hello List:

On 24/09/12 16:30, Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 13:20:17 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


I use IceDove to manage my emails. Today I got a message with an ICS
(Calendar) attachment. IceOwl detects the event: a banner ``This
message contains an invitation to an event'' is printed. But,
amazingly, I can not figure out a way to make IceOwl register the
event: any idea ?


It should be handled (added) automatically by the calendar, at least
that's what happens with iceowl-extension.


iceowl-extension is installed


Oops, then IceOwl should not be needed.


Do you have the .ics mimetype associated to IceOwl?


I guess not: how can I check that part of the Story ?


Mmm... as you have iceowl-extension this one has to process the ICS
attached files, that's what happens in my case (note that I have no
Sundbird nor IceOwl installed but the calendar extension) which makes me
wonder if the ICS file you received was properly formatted.

Run a quick test by sending to yourself an invitation to a self-created
event


This is a good idea indeed :-;

I sent to an other address of mine an invitation, but there was no ICS 
attachment:
is it expected ?
how can we attach an ICS invitation ?



 and check how it goes.

Jerome



P.S. Consider a replacement for IceOwl (Sunbird) because AFAICT is not
being maintained upstream anymore.


This is true.

What is the suggested replacement ?


For the Mozilla project I guess the former successor is Lightning (i.e.,
iceowl-extension) but you can look for another standalone calendar app.

Greetings,




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Re: GRUB: error incompatible license. Entering rescue mode...

2012-05-10 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

I have exactly the same issue, and the same wondering:
any (fresh) idea ?


When rebooting this newly cloned guest system I got the following error:

GRUB loading.
Welcome to GRUB!

error: incompatible license.
Entering rescue mode...
grub rescue

I felt a bit baffled and had no clue so I rebooted GRML again, and this time
ran the grub-install after doing a chroot into the cloned system. That worked.

Still, I'm wondering where this incompatible license error comes from.
I cannot find it in the current GRUB2 source code. Has it anything to do
with VMware? Google shows a couple of hits for this message but no real
answer to where there should be a license issue.

Any ideas?


Jerome


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Re: Backup2l config

2012-05-11 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

Have you tried with the given sample (slightly adapted) ?
It can be a time stamp issue: what is the fs type of the partition of your 
directory ?

Jerome


On 11/05/12 11:08, Bastien Rocheron wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to backup a directory with backup2l and I don't understand the 
'Backup parameters'. I don't understand the levels, max full backups... because 
with the current settings I end up with my disk filled very quickly. The 
directory is 1GB approx and every day backup2l eats up another GB so I guess 
this is not quite differential.
If anybody could explain how that works in a simple way or point to some simple 
doc (which I could not find) I would be delighted. In the meantime I'm trying 
other settings.

Thanks,
Bastien.



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Re: GRUB: error incompatible license. Entering rescue mode...

2012-05-12 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

On 12/05/12 11:04, Brian wrote:

On Fri 11 May 2012 at 01:20:04 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


Hello List:

I have exactly the same issue, and the same wondering:
any (fresh) idea ?


Your setup is possibly inconsistent. The modules in /boot/grub do not
match the version of GRUB in the MBR.


This is certainly true as to fix the issue I played with `grub-install 
--recheck'.
The error message sounds them rather inappropriate.

Jerome






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Re: How to install drivers for this nVidia graphics card?

2012-05-16 Thread Jerome BENOIT

http://packages.debian.org/source/wheezy/nvidia-graphics-drivers

On 16/05/12 12:12, aditya menon wrote:

Hello everyone,

Can you give me an easy way to install drivers for this card *Nvidia GeForce 
GT520M*?

I'm on a laptop. I've tried many things, including this command: aptitude 
install linux-headers-`uname -r` nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-glxfrom an answer I 
got on StackOverflow. Everything I do results in X failing to start. In fact I 
just re-installed X and now it refuses to start at all.

So are there a set of commands I can use to simply install the driver? My 
primary need is to raise the resolution of the monitor...

Thanks!
--
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Re: something about slurm-llnl

2012-06-14 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello:

On 14/06/12 18:28, Curt wrote:

On 2012-06-11, linalina.lastn...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi,

I am a bit confused. Today during upgrade,

it showed me

Not starting slurm-llnl
slurm.conf was not found in /etc/slurm-llnl
Please follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/slurm-llnl/README.Debian.gz

Shall I configure the slurm on my personal laptop,


It's for linux clusters, so I would say unless you're running or are
part of a linux cluster, which doesn't seem to be the case, you
shouldn't be running it.  I wonder why it's installed on your machine
in the first place.

?

By the way a computer cluster is a

  set of loosely connected computers that work together so that in many
  respects they can be viewed as a single system

according to our friends from Wikipedia.


SLURM can also be run on a multi-core box:
it makes sense to use SLURM on a Mac Pro (24 cores).
It can also be installed on a box for developing and testing jobs.




I don't know much, so feel free to tell me as much as possible.

Thanks with best regards,


Jerome









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Re: something about slurm-llnl

2012-06-14 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hi !

On 14/06/12 19:07, Curt wrote:

On 2012-06-14, Jerome BENOITg62993...@rezozer.net  wrote:


SLURM can also be run on a multi-core box:
it makes sense to use SLURM on a Mac Pro (24 cores).
It can also be installed on a box for developing and testing jobs.



Thank you.  I don't think the OP fits into any of the use cases for
this software.


Correct. Nevertheless, I wanted to shake a bit the cluster idea of your post.

Jerome






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Re: Wheezy on UEFI

2012-07-10 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello:

There is actually a discussion about it on the debian-devel list.

Jerome

On 11/07/12 04:08, Darren Baginski wrote:

Hi list!

Today I have installed Wheezy on UEFI system, Asus UX31A to be more particular.
While installing I faced some issues.
Looks like installer can't recognize and do not ask whenever system is BIOS or 
UEFI and installs grub-pc,
while grub-uefi required in such case. Thus making system unbootable.
One need to 'fix' it from the bootable cd/usb.
After manually installing grub-uefi-amd64 and running
`grub-install --bootloader-id=debian`
you have to run
`modprobe efivars`
`efibootmgr -c -l '\efi\debian\grubx64.efi' -L Debian`
and then remove/edit boot entries with `efibootmgr -B -b N`

I found those steps not so easy to perform for many users and bielive such 
functionality should be intergrated
in to the Debian installer.
My question is there a work in progress on that? If so, how can I help ?





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Re: Wheezy on UEFI

2012-07-11 Thread Jerome BENOIT



On 11/07/12 09:19, Tom H wrote:

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Jerome BENOITg62993...@rezozer.net  wrote:

On 11/07/12 04:08, Darren Baginski wrote:


Today I have installed Wheezy on UEFI system, Asus UX31A to be more
particular.
While installing I faced some issues.
Looks like installer can't recognize and do not ask whenever system is
BIOS or UEFI and installs grub-pc,
while grub-uefi required in such case. Thus making system unbootable.
One need to 'fix' it from the bootable cd/usb.
After manually installing grub-uefi-amd64 and running
`grub-install --bootloader-id=debian`
you have to run
`modprobe efivars`
`efibootmgr -c -l '\efi\debian\grubx64.efi' -L Debian`
and then remove/edit boot entries with `efibootmgr -B -b N`

I found those steps not so easy to perform for many users and bielive such
functionality should be intergrated
in to the Debian installer.
My question is there a work in progress on that? If so, how can I help ?


There is actually a discussion about it on the debian-devel list.


Please bottom-post.

That discussion isn't about UEFI but about UEFI's Secure Boot feature.


``EFI and Secure Boot'' precisely.

Jerome






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Re: Macintosh LCD brightness control

2012-11-14 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hi List,


have you tried pommed ?

http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/pommed

Best wishes,
Jerome

On 14/11/12 13:31, lina wrote:

On Wednesday 14,November,2012 08:03 PM, adam wolter wrote:

Release 6.0.6 (squeeze)

i have the PowerPC version installed on a lampShade iMac G4.

LCD monitor brightness is controlled by function keys F1 and F2 which
have brightness markings.

it all works well.

i just want to know HOW so i can make similar support in ubuntu.

Volume controls work well also and i can find XF86 Keyboard Shortcuts.

xdotool key XF86MonBrightnessDown  works also but there is no Keyboard
Shortcut for it !

Can someone tell me how the F1 key is bound to XF86MonBrightnessDown 


Until now, it has been more than two years.
In the past, if I wished to adjust the brightness of the monitor, I
would come back to Mac OS. It worked even switch back to debian.




please.

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Re: adobe reader + multiarch

2012-12-24 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hi,

have you tried the acroread debian ball at www.deb-multimedia.org ?

hth,
Jerome

On 24/12/12 21:44, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

I am trying to install adobe reader with multiarch. Has anybody done that?
This is as far as I got:

===
Script started on Mon 24 Dec 2012 02:28:50 PM CST
root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# dpkg --print-architecture
amd64
root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
i386
root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# dpkg -i AdbeRdr9.5.1-1_i386linux_enu.deb
Preparing to replace adobereader-enu 9.5.1 (using 
AdbeRdr9.5.1-1_i386linux_enu.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement adobereader-enu ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of adobereader-enu:
adobereader-enu depends on libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.4).

dpkg: error processing adobereader-enu (--install):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
adobereader-enu
root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# dpkg -l libgtk2.0-0
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version Architecture Description
+++-==-==-==-=
ii libgtk2.0-0:amd64 2.24.10-2 amd64 GTK+ graphical user interface library
root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:386
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package libgtk2.0-0
E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libgtk2.0-0'
root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# exit
exit

Script done on Mon 24 Dec 2012 02:32:27 PM CST
===

Hugo





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Re: Adobe Reader 9.5.4 on 64 bit Linux

2013-02-28 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List,

as Wheezy is on the edge to get stable,
a good option would be either to wait for Wheezy or to migrate right now to 
Wheezy
then make the Wheezy box a bi architecture one (i386+amd64), and then to install
the acroread Multimedi-Debian deb ball.

Jerome


On 28/02/13 10:46, Chris Bannister wrote:

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:24:42PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Wednesday 27 February 2013 18:59:06 Claudius Hubig wrote:

Dear Lisi,

Lisi Reisz wrote:

There has, I know, been quite a lot about 32 bit on 64 bit systems
recently. But I am not clear where I should start with this one.


Are you on Squeeze or Wheezy? For Squeeze, install the ia32-libs* and
then dpkg --force-architecture the Adobe Reader .deb


root@Tux-II:/home/lisi/Downloads# dpkg --force-architecture -i
AdbeRdr9.5.4-1_i386linux_enu.deb
dpkg: warning: overriding problem because --force enabled:
  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
(Reading database ... 137946 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking adobereader-enu (from AdbeRdr9.5.4-1_i386linux_enu.deb) ...
Setting up adobereader-enu (9.5.4) ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
root@Tux-II:/home/lisi/Downloads#


What is output of:
root@tal:~# apt-cache policy ia32-libs-*




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Re: moving /var

2013-03-01 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List,

On 01/03/13 09:53, Lars Noodén wrote:

On 3/1/13 10:41 AM, Maroš Žilka wrote:

What would be better way to do it ? Is it even possible to do such
change on running system without worries to lose some data ?


I wouldn't do it on a running system.  Better to boot from a live CD or
similar and do it from there.


A simple live CD is sufficient:
Debian netinst minimal CD in rescue mode is sufficient to do so.
Do not forget to update the /etc/fstab configuration file with respect
to the change; to clean up the /var (and let an empty one) in the `/' (root) 
partition.

Jerome




About a different way, the way I have done it is with tar using the -p
option.  I'm not sure if that's inherently better, but it is another way.

Regards,
/Lars





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Re: moving /var

2013-03-01 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello,

On 01/03/13 12:06, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote:

Hello List,

On 01/03/13 09:53, Lars Noodén wrote:

On 3/1/13 10:41 AM, Maroš Žilka wrote:

What would be better way to do it ? Is it even possible to do such
change on running system without worries to lose some data ?


I wouldn't do it on a running system.  Better to boot from a live CD or
similar and do it from there.


A simple live CD is sufficient:
Debian netinst minimal CD in rescue mode is sufficient to do so.
Do not forget to update the /etc/fstab configuration file with respect
to the change; to clean up the /var (and let an empty one) in the `/'
(root) partition.


It is simpler to move the partition in single user mode. Just issue the
command (as root)


Indeed. I will think about it next time.




# shutdown now

(not 'shutdown -h now' or 'shutdown -r now'), wait the system go down and
enter the root password when asked. You will have just a root shell
running. An even more secure way (in case single user leaves some program
running) is to reboot and pass the argument

init=/bin/sh

to the kernel by editing the kernel command line in grub. You will start a
system with only a running shell as pid 1 and the root mounted read-only.
Then remount the root read-write:

# mount -o remount,rw /

and do the dirty work. When you finish, unmount all partition other than
the root, remount the root read only with

# mount -o remount,ro /

and reset the computer (shutdown will do nothing).

João Luis.





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Re: wheezy / gnome3

2011-11-09 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

On 09/11/11 00:12, Richard wrote:

On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:54:17 + (UTC)
Camaleónnoela...@gmail.com  wrote:


On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:20:58 -0200, Pablo Sánchez wrote:


Hi there : help !


Here we go :-)


I updated wheezy(amd64) and i got gnome3, i didn't see it coming


Oh, yes... what a sad day. My desktop is now blue and with no live, text
is rendered blurry and life has turned completely grey :-(


1. It runs in fallback mode on a ati radeon mobility 1350


(...)

Check if you have 3D capabilities on (glxinfo | grep -i render).


I can trurn kms on, on /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf , but  the
desktop is a bit unusable, pretty but unusable.


You have KMS disabled and radeon driver still works? That's good but
maybe KMS is needed to get gnome-shell working :-?


2. Any reasonable gnome 3 guide to get things work out ? (no shortcuts,
no panel config, no desktop icons and the two panels (upper an lower)
are black and no config i can guess)


I have to surrender.

I know all of the settings can be tweaked by editing the corresponding
CSS file but this file will be overwritten with any of the upcoming
update affecting gnome-shell, so I decided to leave the gnome-shell as
is (in a very bad shape) and wait for better times to come (aka: wait
for gnome-tweak-tool to be in wheezy).

Greetings,



The gnome-tweak-tool is in wheezy, but the gnome3 extensions are not, nor is 
the side panel with the
apps you use most.
At the moment its a awkward hybrid.



What would be a temporary good alternative ? xfce4 ?

Thanks in advance,
Jerome


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Re: can I safelly remove gnome ?

2011-11-14 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

On 14/11/11 12:08, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:

On 14/11/11 11:19, Joao Ferreira Gmail wrote:

Hello all,

I'm going to start using xfce4.

Can I safelly apt-get remove/purge gnome

Or should I expect any side impacts ?


Depends on what you call 'safely' and on what you are going to remove (gnome is 
actually dozens of pakcages). Side effects will be all of those 
not-so-evidetlty-related-to-gnome packages which you might remove and which are 
doing important stuff on your system, for example gdm3, network manager, gedit 
etc. Policykit stuff probably


Has anyone done this before ?


Yes I did it. Although I don't think just purging gnome tout-court has any 
motive if not experimental/learning. The best option would probably be fresh 
install with xfce4.
Anyway after removing most gnome-related packages I installed xdm and slim as 
replacement to gdm, had to fiddle wit various low-level system files to get gui 
shutdown/reboot working and mount usb disks as users. I am still currently 
unable to manage network-manager through the nm-applet as user. Lots of 
information is available on-line and in other community supported channels 
(email, IRC), you just have to be patient enough to search for it and 
experiment.



concerning the wireless network connect:
with wpasupplicant running in roam mode applets are not needed:
This last week-end I migrated from Gnome 2/3 to Xfce (I wonder why),
this approach allowed a smooth migration.



IMHO only do this if:
- you have a backup of your important files
- you are confident enough to work from console only (i.e. desktop environment 
un-bootable, possibly wifi not working so maybe better with fixed network 
connection)
- are not in the middle of the most important project of your life :)

Lorenzo.


thank you
Joao



hth,
Jerome










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Re: wifi without applets [WAS] Re: can I safelly remove gnome ?

2011-11-14 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello:

On 14/11/11 12:34, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:

Jerome,

On 14/11/11 12:19, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
  Hello List:
 
  On 14/11/11 12:08, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
  On 14/11/11 11:19, Joao Ferreira Gmail wrote:
  [...]
  I am still currently unable to manage network-manager through the
  nm-applet as user.
  [...]
 
  concerning the wireless network connect:
  with wpasupplicant running in roam mode applets are not needed:
  This last week-end I migrated from Gnome 2/3 to Xfce (I wonder why),
  this approach allowed a smooth migration.

This is really interesting. Could you elaborate a bit more? Do you think it's 
hardware dependent? Does the 'hardware' switch (of any) work? Any pointers to 
guides tutorials, maybe willing to share your own setup?



You can find information in the Debian README file od wpasupplicant,

/usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz ,


section 3 entitled `Mode #2: Roaming Mode'.


hth,
Jerome




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BibTeX memory limits

2011-11-17 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

I encounter memory limit issue with BibTeX
similar to the ones reported in Q37 of the `BibTEX Tips and FAQ'
by Michael Shell and David Hoadley :
I know that memory limits for tex and its derived, for metapost can be
can be configured in the /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf configuration file:
can we do something similar for bibtex ?

Thanks in advance,
Jerome


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Xfce: GIMP as default PDF viewer ?

2011-11-17 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

Since I migrated from Gnome3 to Xfce, I have noticed that thdefault viewer for 
PDF files is now GIMP:
I would rather expect acrobat or evince.

Where is the place to fix this ?

Thanks in advance,
Jerome


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Re: Xfce: GIMP as default PDF viewer ?

2011-11-17 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello:


On 17/11/11 17:08, Patrick Wiseman wrote:

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Jerome BENOITg62993...@rezozer.net  wrote:

Hello List:

Since I migrated from Gnome3 to Xfce, I have noticed that thdefault viewer
for PDF files is now GIMP:
I would rather expect acrobat or evince.

Where is the place to fix this ?


Right-click on the document, choose Properties, and select another
application as the default.


As I can not does that from evince itself, I did it from the File Manager: so 
far it works.

Is there a way to set it system wise rather than per user ?

Thanks again,
Jerome  



Patrick





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Re: Xfce: GIMP as default PDF viewer ?

2011-11-17 Thread Jerome BENOIT



On 17/11/11 17:37, Osamu Aoki wrote:

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 04:45:19PM +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

Hello List:

Since I migrated from Gnome3 to Xfce, I have noticed that thdefault viewer for 
PDF files is now GIMP:
I would rather expect acrobat or evince.

Where is the place to fix this ?


Install epdfview.


I have just tried it:
it appears that it can not open attachments.

Thanks,
Jerome



Please check all recommends of task-xfce-desktop is installed using
aptitude.

Osamu



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Re: BibTeX memory limits

2011-11-17 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hi !

On 17/11/11 19:18, Camaleón wrote:

On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:44:04 +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


I encounter memory limit issue with BibTeX similar to the ones reported
in Q37 of the `BibTEX Tips and FAQ' by Michael Shell and David Hoadley :


Who also add additional tips to deal with the problematic:

***
(...) Some versions of BibTEX have been patched to allow for the memory
limits to be changed via the contents of a “bibtexmemory.config” file
(without having to recompile), but, unfortunately, such systems don’t seem
to be very common.

There is also a version of BibTEX with a much larger capacity. “8-bit”
BibTEX was written by Niel Kempson and Alejandro Aguilar-Sierra [20]. On
many systems with 8-bit BibTEX (MiKTEX), the executable is called
bibtex8.7

Maybe you can Google for these two options :-?


I did one of the other options:
just improve my BibTeX BST code to workaround the encountered limitation.

Before my email I was not familiar with BibTeX Style hacks,
and it sounded obscure: I am getting familiar with it.
(Amazingly it remind me the old good time of the HP calculators :-).)

My hope was to set up some parameters in /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf
as it can be done for the different variant of tex, for metapost, ...




I know that memory limits for tex and its derived, for metapost can be
can be configured in the /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf configuration file: can we
do something similar for bibtex ?


There is also a program named biber aimed to solve that memory
limitations, maybe you can give it a wirl:



biber comes with biblatex: I want to stay with bibtex  to avoid endless issue.


http://sourceforge.net/projects/biblatex-biber/files/

And while searching for this program, I've found a request for package
bug report in Debian BTS:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=570018

Greetings,



Thanks,
Jerome


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Xfce: manual lock screen

2011-11-18 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

is there a way to lock the screen manually within Xfce (as within Gnome) ?

Thanks in advance,
Jerome  



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Re: Xfce: manual lock screen

2011-11-18 Thread Jerome BENOIT



On 18/11/11 17:00, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:

On 18/11/11 16:57, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

Hello List:

is there a way to lock the screen manually within Xfce (as within Gnome) ?


Yes. With the command xflock4 - part of the xfce4-utils which you probably 
already have installed.


You are right.


It can also be bound to a keyboard shortcut.



I would prefer a `button' near the `Log Out' one:
I guess it can be done ... how ?

Thanks again,
Jerome


Lorenzo.



Thanks in advance,
Jerome







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comment diff files

2011-11-25 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

Is there any way to comment a diff file ?

Thanks in advance,
Jerome


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Re: comment diff files

2011-11-25 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Thanks !

On 25/11/11 19:14, Clive Standbridge wrote:

Jerome BENOIT wrote:

Hello List:

Is there any way to comment a diff file ?


Interesting question. I don't know, but perhaps this paragraph from
the patch(1) may help:

patch  tries to skip any leading garbage, apply the diff, and then skip
any trailing garbage.  Thus you could feed an article or message  con-
taining  a  diff  listing  to patch, and it should work.  If the entire
diff is indented by a consistent amount, or if a context diff contains
lines ending in CRLF or is encapsulated one or more times by prepending
-  to lines starting with - as specified by Internet RFC 934,  this
is  taken  into  account.   After  removing indenting or encapsulation,
lines beginning with # are ignored, as they are considered to be  com-
ments.



Of course, I read `man diff' before sending the email to the list.

Jerome


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Re: [Feedback needed] Setting the right size for /tmp

2011-11-28 Thread Jerome BENOIT



On 28/11/11 19:07, Camaleón wrote:

Hello,

I'm running an updated wheezy and today faced with this little
problematic.

While running Midnight Commander to open (on-the-fly decompression for
browsing the archive) the kernel source package (a ~75 MiB .tar.bz2 file)
I got this error:

http://picpaste.com/mc-error-YXdyRawO.gif

My Atom based netbook is not a powerful system but has 2 GiB of ram and
250 hard disk so, what was happening?

df -H told me:

S.ficheros Tamaño Usado  Disp Uso% Montado en
/dev/sda2247G  7,7G  239G   4% /
tmpfs5,3M  4,1k  5,3M   1% /lib/init/rw
tmpfs212M  664k  211M   1% /run
tmpfs5,3M 0  5,3M   0% /run/lock
tmpfs423M  423M 0 100% /tmp --- here!
udev 1,1G 0  1,1G   0% /dev
tmpfs423M  238k  423M   1% /run/shm

Okay, so /tmp is full. Fine. I know how to solve it but I can foresee
more situations like this in the future so some questions arise. As the
current tmpfs default settings for /tmp seem a bit unrealistic (just %
20 of the RAM?) for even doing common tasks:

1/ How many room should be set for a /tmp partition? I never had it one
so I can't make any good estimation.


on my  laptop my /tmp partition is about 225 Mb:
1] most of the time it is empty (right now only 1% is used);
2] I have a huge /scratch partition that is used when the /tmp
is not big enough;
3] I guess that the relevant size depends on what kind of file is used on fly 
(read, uncompress, compress, write, ...).



2/ Would be better to simply disable tmpfs for /tmp? This is how I've
been doing all these years.


I guess the /tmp mounted on a partition of /dev/sda is better idea than tmpfs 
one.
(having a sepated partion for /tmp is good idea.)



Any comments are welcome :-)


My 2 cents,
Jerome



Greetings,




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libpam-ssh

2011-12-03 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

What have happened to libpam-ssh ?
Is it replace by an other package ?

Thanks in advcane,
Jerome


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Re: libpam-ssh

2011-12-03 Thread Jerome BENOIT



On 03/12/11 23:29, Stephan Seitz wrote:

On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 11:15:07PM +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

What have happened to libpam-ssh ?


It was removed, see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=650644


Poor me: I really like it !




Is it replace by an other package ?


No.

Shade and sweet water!


I am lost here.

Thanks anyway,
Jerome



Stephan




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Re: libpam-ssh

2011-12-04 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello:

Actually it sounds as maintained project, as the last update is stamp 
2011/06/14:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/pam-ssh/


On the other hand, I have no trouble with it on my boxes.

Jerome  


On 04/12/11 03:38, Allan Wind wrote:

On 2011-12-04 00:56:44, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

Poor me: I really like it !


Yeah.  Me too.


/Allan



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Re: OT programming languages/ systems for advanced applications on Linux

2011-12-24 Thread Jerome BENOIT

what about D ?

On 24/12/11 21:56, David Christensen wrote:

On 12/24/2011 06:44 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:

Lisp
Smalltalk
Erlang
Haskell
Caml/OCaml
APL - if you're crazy or want to be; or you could go all the way to
Brainfuck (http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck)
for that matter, Ada, if you're writing mission-critical/safety-critical
systems
If you're really interested in programming languages:
http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/


Interesting shopping list. :-)


David





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Fwd: Re: OT programming languages/ systems for advanced applications on Linux

2011-12-24 Thread Jerome BENOIT



 Original Message 
Subject: Re: OT programming languages/ systems for advanced applications on 
Linux
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 17:23:46 -0500
From: tony baldwin tonybald...@gmx.com
To: g62993...@rezozer.net

 - Original Message -

From: Jerome BENOIT
Sent: 12/24/11 04:06 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: OT programming languages/ systems for advanced applications on 
Linux

what about D ?

On 24/12/11 21:56, David Christensen wrote:
 On 12/24/2011 06:44 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
 Lisp


I do like lisp.
I've barely played with it, but something about it is...I don't know,
lisp code is pretty to look at.
Is it weird that I think that?
Should I seek therapy?
I've decided I'd really like to learn it, at the very least.
(I know: I like tcl, now lisp...I should start speaking latin, too.)

Ruby looks fun. It looks like the bastard child of tcl and perl, or something.

./tony
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Re: OT programming languages/ systems for advanced applications on Linux

2011-12-24 Thread Jerome BENOIT



On 24/12/11 23:13, Miles Fidelman wrote:

Nah... D is just warmed over C.


may be more than a better C.



Now E, on the other hand, adds significant capabilities for secure distributed 
computing based on the object-capability model:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_%28programming_language%29

Jerome BENOIT wrote:

what about D ?

On 24/12/11 21:56, David Christensen wrote:

On 12/24/2011 06:44 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:

Lisp
Smalltalk
Erlang
Haskell
Caml/OCaml
APL - if you're crazy or want to be; or you could go all the way to
Brainfuck (http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck)
for that matter, Ada, if you're writing mission-critical/safety-critical
systems
If you're really interested in programming languages:
http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/


Interesting shopping list. :-)


David











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xfc4 migration next step: get rid of gnome

2012-01-01 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

I have recently migrated to Xfce, and now I would get rid of gnome as it seems 
to become an heavy machinery:
what is the best way to so ?

Thanks in advance,
Jerome


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Re: sbin

2012-01-01 Thread Jerome BENOIT



On 01/01/12 17:58, Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 00:42:10 +0800, lina wrote:


Is it safe to add /sbin into PATH?


To you user env? If it's not an exposed system, I'd say yes.


and if you really know what you do !




Why the default path not include /sbin,


I guess this is a FHS recommendantion.


if not one of the key point.

Jerome



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D programming: rdmd

2012-01-05 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

Where is rdmd in Debian ?

Thanks in advance,
Jerome


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Re: D programming: rdmd

2012-01-05 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Thanks.

I am looking for Debian ways:
right now I play with gdc-4.6

On 05/01/12 17:56, Camaleón wrote:

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 17:25:13 +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


Where is rdmd in Debian ?


***
http://www.d-programming-language.org/faq.html#q5

Will D be open source?

The front end for the dmd D compiler is open source, and the complete
source comes with the compiler, and is available on github. The back end
for dmd is licensed from Symantec. The runtime library is completely open
source using the Boost License 1.0. The gdc and ldc D compilers are
completely open sourced.
***

Maybe is not there because the backend if not GPL licensed? :-?

Compiled packages are available here:

http://www.digitalmars.com/d/download.html

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Re: D programming: rdmd

2012-01-06 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

On 05/01/12 18:10, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

Thanks.

I am looking for Debian ways:
right now I play with gdc-4.6


It appears that rdmd.d is distributed within the source of the pacakge gdc-4.6.

Jerome



On 05/01/12 17:56, Camaleón wrote:

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 17:25:13 +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


Where is rdmd in Debian ?


***
http://www.d-programming-language.org/faq.html#q5

Will D be open source?

The front end for the dmd D compiler is open source, and the complete
source comes with the compiler, and is available on github. The back end
for dmd is licensed from Symantec. The runtime library is completely open
source using the Boost License 1.0. The gdc and ldc D compilers are
completely open sourced.
***

Maybe is not there because the backend if not GPL licensed? :-?

Compiled packages are available here:

http://www.digitalmars.com/d/download.html

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Re: xfc4 migration next step: get rid of gnome

2012-01-08 Thread Jerome BENOIT



On 08/01/12 16:17, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:

On 01/01/2012 19:48, Camaleón wrote:

On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 18:02:55 +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


I have recently migrated to Xfce, and now I would get rid of gnome as it
seems to become an heavy machinery: what is the best way to so ?


I would start by removing the related metapackages (gnome, gnome-desktop-
environment, gnome-core...).

If removing tries to do crazy things (like deleting packages or libraries
that you still want to leave installed), I would then go with a selective
package removement. It will be slower but this way you ensure to keep the
things you want and those that can be still needed or even useful for
xfce.


In my case I went for a slightly more 'radical' (but very educational) way of 
backing up may home dir, reinstalling vanilla debian and then xfce4 and 
xfce4-goodies. Eventually I did install gnome related packages e.g. to have 
network-manager and such, but overall my system is much lighter.
Something not directly related to xfce, but interesting for keeping installs 
slimmer, is a useful option for apt-get I learned in the process, it is the 
--no-install-recommends (which I then made permanent), as it seems recommends 
is abused to some extent.



I am waiting for the next stable Debian release to do so.

Jerome



Ciao,
Lorenzo.





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Re: thread issue

2011-08-04 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

just use a job scheduler as SLURM:

http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/slurm-llnl

Jerome

On 04/08/11 16:23, lina wrote:

Thanks for suggestions,

Actually I got a job which contains several small jobs inside.

if run the bash script, it will do those one by one and it is pretty
slow, waiting ...

I can run each small jobs separately, but use a bash script kind of
easy to make some changes in amount and manage.

I just wonder are there some simple way to do it?

another question, if I don't have root previlege, can I adjust my nice
level in some cluster? I noticed mine NI was kind of 19, totally crazy
slow.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Frank Lanitzfr...@frank.uvena.de  wrote:

Am 04.08.2011 15:12, schrieb lina:

Hi,

I noticed when make -j 8, the 8 cores can be fully occupied.

can I use some way to enable 8 cores at the same time when I run
something, such as a bash script?


Hard to say as it depends on the software you are running. On shell
scripts you might can do it by intelligent forking of processes doing
the single tasks.


How can I fork of processes doing each single tasks?


Other applications do need to support multi threading in most cases
already inside source code.

Cheers,
Frank


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Re: thread issue

2011-08-04 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

On 04/08/11 18:26, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

On 8/4/2011 11:03 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

Hello List:

just use a job scheduler as SLURM:

http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/slurm-llnl


She already has PBS.  Apparently you didn't read her posts.


She run jobs on a lab cluster and on her personal Debian laptop,
and she is not really aware of job scheduler [1]

Jerome

[1] personal communication.  






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Re: Best linux Distro 2011

2011-08-08 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

On 08/08/11 19:30, Chris Brennan wrote:

On 8/8/2011 11:36 AM, shawn wilson wrote:

I would have gone with slackware. But that's just me. :)


Slackware is a great way to learn Linux without many 'isms to worry
about. Slackware 4.x/5.x was my first distro to try on my own and I used
it for a very long time. It taught me the fundamental basics of what I
needed to know about compiling software and it's dependencies. It's
something I do recommend to people who want to aggressively learn Linux
without the overhead of learning how a specific OS does something.
Granted I haven't used Slackware since 9.1 so I have no idea how much
has changed since then...



Why have you switched to Debian ?

Jerome


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Re: ntp problem: the server clock slowly recedes

2011-08-09 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hell List:

On 09/08/11 09:40, owl...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello, the server clock continually recedes as you can see the ntpq -p
offset is too high.
Setting the right time at hand not solve anything after a while the
server clock slowly recedes


Any suggestions?


ahve you tried an other server ?





 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
==
  ntp1.inrim.it   .CTD.1 u   46   64  377   23.641  329686. 2517.77
  ntp2.inrim.it   .CTD.1 u   29   64  377   25.236  329834. 2524.50


2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 14 09:42:28 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux





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orphan link linux-kbuild-N.N.N in /usr/local/src

2011-08-11 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

On my Debian (Wheezy) boxes, the /usr/src is a link to /usr/local/src ,
/usr and /usr/local being mounted on different partitions.
I guess it is a common practice.

Whatever, I have noticed that in my /usr/src (- /usr/local/src)
an orphaned link was created linux-kbuild-3.0.0 - ../lib/linux-kbuild-3.0.0 :
the /usr/lib/linux-kbuild-3.0.0 does exist, but not 
/usr/local/lib/linux-kbuild-3.0.0

I could create a link /usr/local/lib , but because of the version suffix,
this approach is not an appropriate one.
Of course, I can unorphan the link by hand, but I am looking for a permanent 
solution.

Any idea ?

Thanks in advance,
Jerome


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Re: orphan link linux-kbuild-N.N.N in /usr/local/src

2011-08-12 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

On 12/08/11 08:08, Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2011-08-11 21:10 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


On my Debian (Wheezy) boxes, the /usr/src is a link to /usr/local/src ,
/usr and /usr/local being mounted on different partitions.
I guess it is a common practice.


It might be common, but it is not a good practice since /usr/src is
distribution territory.  I.e. Debian packages will overwrite any local
files without warning.


My understand is the /usr/src is an exception: and /usr/src is meant to
to build kernel images.
Second, my set up forced the distribution territory:
on my box: /usr is mounted read only, whereras /usr/local is not.




Whatever, I have noticed that in my /usr/src (-  /usr/local/src)
an orphaned link was created linux-kbuild-3.0.0 -  ../lib/linux-kbuild-3.0.0 :
the /usr/lib/linux-kbuild-3.0.0 does exist, but not 
/usr/local/lib/linux-kbuild-3.0.0

I could create a link /usr/local/lib , but because of the version suffix,
this approach is not an appropriate one.
Of course, I can unorphan the link by hand, but I am looking for a permanent 
solution.

Any idea ?


My advice would be to delete the symlink and move any files belonging to
Debian packages to /usr/src.  Use dpkg -S usr/src to find out which
files belong to packages.

If you don't want to do that, use a bind mount rather than a symlink for
/usr/src.  Then the /usr/src/linux-kbuild-3.0.0 symlink will work (but
/usr/local/src/linux-kbuild-3.0.0 will not).


This sound better: I will try soon.



Sven





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Re: orphan link linux-kbuild-N.N.N in /usr/local/src

2011-08-12 Thread Jerome BENOIT




My advice would be to delete the symlink and move any files belonging to
Debian packages to /usr/src.  Use dpkg -S usr/src to find out which
files belong to packages.

If you don't want to do that, use a bind mount rather than a symlink for
/usr/src.  Then the /usr/src/linux-kbuild-3.0.0 symlink will work (but
/usr/local/src/linux-kbuild-3.0.0 will not).



In other words, the issue remains.

Is there a way to ask to the involved package to link via an absolute path 
rather than a relative one ?
May I fill a bug report here ?

Thanks,
Jerome


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Re: orphan link linux-kbuild-N.N.N in /usr/local/src

2011-08-14 Thread Jerome BENOIT

hello List:

On 13/08/11 08:13, Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2011-08-12 09:29 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


On 12/08/11 08:08, Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2011-08-11 21:10 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


On my Debian (Wheezy) boxes, the /usr/src is a link to /usr/local/src ,
/usr and /usr/local being mounted on different partitions.
I guess it is a common practice.


It might be common, but it is not a good practice since /usr/src is
distribution territory.  I.e. Debian packages will overwrite any local
files without warning.


My understand is the /usr/src is an exception: and /usr/src is meant to
to build kernel images.


This is true.
Nevertheless, install Debian some tarballs (kernel sources, modules sources, 
...) in /usr/src :
for practical reasons, I prefer to build my own specific kernel in /usr/src in 
such a way I have
an eye on what is going on.
If I was working in an other folder, I would not noticed the presence of the 
link installed by kbuild.





You can build kernel images anywhere you like, there is no need or
advantage whatsoever to build them under /usr/src.


Second, my set up forced the distribution territory:
on my box: /usr is mounted read only, whereras /usr/local is not.


That does still not explain why you need /usr/src to be writable.

Sven




Jerome



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Re: orphan link linux-kbuild-N.N.N in /usr/local/src

2011-08-14 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List

On 13/08/11 08:24, Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2011-08-12 23:54 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


If you don't want to do that, use a bind mount rather than a symlink for
/usr/src.  Then the /usr/src/linux-kbuild-3.0.0 symlink will work (but
/usr/local/src/linux-kbuild-3.0.0 will not).



In other words, the issue remains.

Is there a way to ask to the involved package to link via an absolute path 
rather than a relative one ?


Not really, although it might be possible to convert it to absolute
after unpacking if you install a dpkg trigger which does that.


This sound as a dirty trick that I wan to avoid.




May I fill a bug report here ?


Debian policy requires the link to be relative¹, so the Debian kernel
team will not change their packages to accommodate you.


Thanks to remind me this part of the story.

My current understanding is that my set up is not appropriate:
my plan is to remove `/usr/local/src' and to mount `/usr/src'
on its own partition. This will fix the issue, and this will allow
to keep `/usr' mounted read-only and to play as before in `/usr/src'
to build my own specific kernel images.

Thanks for the small discusion,
Jerome



Sven


¹ http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-files.html#s10.5





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What happens to kernel.org ?

2011-09-08 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

does anyone know why `www.kernel.org' can't be found ?

Thanks in advance,
Jerome


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Re: What happens to kernel.org ?

2011-09-09 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

Thanks for your replies:
indeed it is `down for maintenance' according to itself.

Jerome  


On 09/09/11 02:02, Tom H wrote:

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Jerome BENOITg62993...@rezozer.net  wrote:


does anyone know why `www.kernel.org' can't be found ?


The servers are probably still being rebuilt after the recent hack.

You can get the latest kernel(s) from github.





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gvim: hide hidden files

2011-09-11 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

Since a while, I have noticed that File-Open in gvim exhibits hidden files:
is there a way to hide hidden files ?

Thanks in advance,
Jerome  



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Re: gvim: hide hidden files

2011-09-11 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

thanks for the quick reply.

On 11/09/11 17:45, Camaleón wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:46:26 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


Since a while, I have noticed that File-Open in gvim exhibits hidden
files: is there a way to hide hidden files ?


Usually all of the GTK+ based menus share the same options.

Never played with gvim before but in GNOME based apps this can be turned
off by right clicking on the files part and unselect [ ] show hidden
files.


I have just checked gconf-editor and GONME-System-'File Management'-View :
the `show hidden files' box is not stick.

My guess is that there is an option in gvimrc to set.


Jerome  



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Re: Nvidia drivers

2011-09-12 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

have your tried the Debian instead:

http://packages.debian.org/source/wheezy/nvidia-graphics-drivers
http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/nvidia-cuda-dev

hth,
Jerome  


On 12/09/11 15:05, James Allsopp wrote:

Hi,
Having a terrible time trying to get nvidia drivers working. I had them
working ages ago but an update broke them whilst I was trying to get
CUDA to work.

I'm trying to do this properly the nvidia way, and have tried to remove
all of the packages using apt, and them used
m-a prepare
m-a auto-install nvidia

and everything went to plan, but when I reboot X fails saying it can't
find the modules.

ja@Hawaiian:~$ uname -a
Linux Hawaiian 2.6.30-2-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Dec 7 05:21:45 UTC 2009 x86_64
GNU/Linux

Hawaiian:/home/ja# find / -iname 'nvidia.ko'
/lib/modules/2.6.30-2-amd64/nvidia/nvidia.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.30-2-amd64/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko

lsmod shows an nvidia module
Hawaiian:/home/ja# lsmod | grep nvidia
nvidia  10852808  0
i2c_core   25424  2 i2c_i801,nvidia

But it doesn't seem the same size as the other two, which are different
from each other.
Hawaiian:/home/ja# ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.30-2-amd64/nvidia/nvidia.ko
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13294487 Sep 12 12:40
/lib/modules/2.6.30-2-amd64/nvidia/nvidia.ko

Hawaiian:/home/ja# ls -l
/lib/modules/2.6.30-2-amd64/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11670161 Jan 12  2010
/lib/modules/2.6.30-2-amd64/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko

Not exactly sure where to go from here, any advice or requests for more
information gratefully received.

Thanks,
James





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Re: Nvidia drivers

2011-09-12 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Have you tried to neutralized the wrong nvidia module by renaming it.

On 12/09/11 16:30, James Allsopp wrote:

Hi, problem is that I can't get x to start now and need some help, any ideas?

On Sep 12, 2011 1:58 PM, Jerome BENOIT g62993...@rezozer.net 
mailto:g62993...@rezozer.net wrote:
  Hello List:
 
  have your tried the Debian instead:
 
  http://packages.debian.org/source/wheezy/nvidia-graphics-drivers
  http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/nvidia-cuda-dev
 
  hth,
  Jerome
 
  On 12/09/11 15:05, James Allsopp wrote:
  Hi,
  Having a terrible time trying to get nvidia drivers working. I had them
  working ages ago but an update broke them whilst I was trying to get
  CUDA to work.
 
  I'm trying to do this properly the nvidia way, and have tried to remove
  all of the packages using apt, and them used
  m-a prepare
  m-a auto-install nvidia
 
  and everything went to plan, but when I reboot X fails saying it can't
  find the modules.
 
  ja@Hawaiian:~$ uname -a
  Linux Hawaiian 2.6.30-2-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Dec 7 05:21:45 UTC 2009 x86_64
  GNU/Linux
 
  Hawaiian:/home/ja# find / -iname 'nvidia.ko'
  /lib/modules/2.6.30-2-amd64/nvidia/nvidia.ko
  /lib/modules/2.6.30-2-amd64/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
 
  lsmod shows an nvidia module
  Hawaiian:/home/ja# lsmod | grep nvidia
  nvidia 10852808 0
  i2c_core 25424 2 i2c_i801,nvidia
 
  But it doesn't seem the same size as the other two, which are different
  from each other.
  Hawaiian:/home/ja# ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.30-2-amd64/nvidia/nvidia.ko
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13294487 Sep 12 12:40
  /lib/modules/2.6.30-2-amd64/nvidia/nvidia.ko
 
  Hawaiian:/home/ja# ls -l
  /lib/modules/2.6.30-2-amd64/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11670161 Jan 12 2010
  /lib/modules/2.6.30-2-amd64/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
 
  Not exactly sure where to go from here, any advice or requests for more
  information gratefully received.
 
  Thanks,
  James
 
 
 
 
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key shortcut rendering xterm console full screen

2011-10-02 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

Since a while on my Wheezy box, by accident under Gnome, my fingers slide
and render the xterm console full screen. As I would like to reproduce it
and to scape from it, but not by accident, I want to know the involved key
shortcut.

Thanks in advance,
Jerome


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Re: key shortcut rendering xterm console full screen

2011-10-02 Thread Jerome BENOIT



On 02/10/11 18:56, Dom wrote:

On 02/10/11 17:27, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

Hello List:

Since a while on my Wheezy box, by accident under Gnome, my fingers slide
and render the xterm console full screen. As I would like to reproduce it
and to scape from it, but not by accident, I want to know the involved key
shortcut.


Might you have accidentally pressed F11? That is used on some applications as a 
switch between window and full screen mode.


No, only left and right lower keys on my Apple keyboard are involved:







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Re: key shortcut rendering xterm console full screen

2011-10-02 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

On 02/10/11 22:38, Cláudio E. Elicker wrote:

On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 18:27:58 +0200
Jerome BENOITg62993...@rezozer.net  wrote:


Hello List:

Since a while on my Wheezy box, by accident under Gnome, my fingers
slide and render the xterm console full screen. As I would like to
reproduce it and to scape from it, but not by accident, I want to
know the involved key shortcut.

Thanks in advance,
Jerome




ALT+ENTER works here.



This is the shortcut: to get full screen and to escape from it

Is it specific to Gnome or to X stuff ?

Thanks again,
Jerome







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Re: i wish to generate a Debian package from source written in c++ with makefile already prepared

2012-03-21 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello:

you may ask on the Debian mentor list.

hth,
Jerome

On 21/03/12 12:58, Gershon Celniker wrote:

i wish to generate a Debian package from source written in c++ with
makefile already ready,
so i used dh_make and prepared all the needed configuration file, all
but rules file - this one is a bit tricky, because i cant find a way
to execute the make command at the destination folder.

my question is how to write the generate file so it will copy the
source files to /usr/share/my folder and execute make command there.


Best,
Gershon Celniker
Bioinformatics developer - TAU - Tel Aviv University





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Re: skype-debian_2.2.0.35-1_amd64.deb

2011-06-12 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello Mathieu,

On 12/06/11 11:10, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:

$ sudo dpkg -i skype-debian_2.2.0.35-1_amd64.deb
Selecting previously deselected package skype.
(Reading database ... 120513 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking skype (from skype-debian_2.2.0.35-1_amd64.deb) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skype:
  skype depends on lib32stdc++6 (= 4.1.1-21); however:
   Package lib32stdc++6 is not installed.
...

Why put amd64 in the name then...



Skype is only available on 32 bits version:
amd64 system can run both 32 bits and 64 bits binaries,
so amd64 can run Skype provided that some basic 32 bits
libraries are also installed.

You may use something as dselect to install Skype
and its dependencies.

hth,
Jerome





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Re: Experience of Debian in a Macbook pro

2011-06-26 Thread Jerome BENOIT


Hello List:

My boxes are Apple boxes running Debian (stable):
a MacMiniServer and a MacBookPro 15 (MacBookPro6,2).

Let say that the installation may not be so straightforward for Debian newbies,
second, for recent Apple, you may install a recent kernel and recent graphics 
support.


hth,
Jerome


On 25/06/11 19:56, lee wrote:

Danganc...@gmail.com  writes:


I would like to buy a laptop. And I love the Macbooks pro. But I will
mainly run Debian. Is it worthy to buy a mac to run Debian?


A while ago, I looked briefly into installing Debian on a Mac because
being confronted with their MacOS feels like having traveled back in
time about 20 years. I found out that it's difficult, to say the
least, and decided not to pursue it any further.

You might be better off asking which laptops are best suited to run your
favourite OS and get one that's suited well.





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Re: Experience of Debian in a Macbook pro

2011-07-03 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello,

On 03/07/11 14:19, lee wrote:

Jerome BENOITjgm...@rezozer.net  writes:


The very first stage is to install refit ( http://refit.sourceforge.net/ ) from 
Mac OS X.
And then Debian can be installed quite as usual.
For more details see http://wiki.debian.org/MacBookPro


Thanks for the info :)  It seems once you get refit working, you could
use a Debian installer CD and get it installed.  However, the Mac sucks
too much to try: You can't install more then two disks,


what do you mean by disk ?

 and you can't

install any of them in the right orientation.


I am getting more confused here:
are you dealing with a MacBookPro or a MacPro ?

  I have another disk I

could use (if the Mac supports SATA disks),  but since it's always been
installed in the right orientation, it's too likely to fail.


Your issues seem rather as hardware issues.

Jerome


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Re: printing image full page

2011-07-04 Thread Jerome BENOIT

a2ps ?

On 05/07/11 06:03, T o n g wrote:

Hi,

I'm looking for a script-able way to print any arbitrary image onto a
full printer page (letter, A4, etc).

All the image viewing tools that I tried didn't give me such feature, and
so far the only solution I have is,cough,cough, doing it in winword.

Thanks



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Re: help to choose right printer to buy

2011-07-26 Thread Jerome BENOIT



On 26/07/11 23:04, Roger Leigh wrote:

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 08:52:20PM +, Juan R. de Silva wrote:

I'm looking to buy one of these B/W Laser printers:

Samsung ML-2855ND or Brother HL-2270DW.

I have no personal experience with printers of these manufacturers and
have no idea how good their drivers/support are.


Check them in the printer database which may be found here:
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting

As a rule of thumb, I would advise against buying a printer which
does not support native printing of PostScript, PDF or PCL.  These
are guaranteed to work, and work well, without the need for special
vendor-specific drivers (you might need a PPD file to enable device-
specific features like duplexing and the like, but that's it).  If it
doesn't support one of the above languages, it's most likely a raster
device which requires the host to render the page image; this type of
printer has numerous issues, including in many cases the inability to
print a full page at high resolution and/or lose data due to timing
issues and lack of sufficient memory to buffer an entire page.

I've had good experiences with HP LaserJets and currently have a
Kyocera FS-C5025N which does native IPP to talk to CUPS.


I have a good experience with HP LaserJet P2055dn .
Reviews can be read on amazon.

hth,
Jerome



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Re: Debian 7 'Wheezy' to introduce multiarch support

2011-07-26 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

I have a very naive question regarding the multiarch transition:
will the upgrade of Debian box from Squeeze to Wheezy be messy ? or as smooth 
as previous upgrades ?

Jerome  


On 26/07/11 13:04, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:

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July 26th, 2011   http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110726b
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Debian 7 'Wheezy' to introduce multiarch support

During this years annual Debian Conference DebConf11 made the
introduction of multiarch support a release goal for the coming
Debian release 7 Wheezy to be released in 2013. Multiarch is a
radical rethinking of the filesystem hierarchy with respect to library
and header paths, to make programs and libraries of different hardware
architectures easily installable in parallel on the very same system.

Multiarch is a major enhancement to Debian's ability to deliver on
the promise of being a universal operating system explains Steve
Langasek, driving force of the implementation, not only will it make
crossbuilding easier, but also enables better support for legacy
32-bit applications on new 64-bit installations and in the future will
even allow live migrations from 32-bit to 64-bit systems.

People interested in the topic can watch the talk by Steve Langasek
Multiarch in Debian: 6 months (or 6 years) on today at 16:00 CEST
(14:00 UTC) by using the DebConf web frontend at
http://debconf11.debconf.org/watch.xhtml.


About Debian


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free community project. Since then the project has grown to be one of
the largest and most influential open source projects.  Thousands of
volunteers from all over the world work together to create and
maintain Debian software. Available in 70 languages, and supporting a
huge range of computer types, Debian calls itself the universal
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Re: Debian 7 'Wheezy' to introduce multiarch support

2011-07-27 Thread Jerome BENOIT



On 27/07/11 04:16, T Elcor wrote:

--- On Tue, 7/26/11, Jerome BENOITg62993...@rezozer.net  wrote:


I have a very naive question regarding the multiarch
transition:
will the upgrade of Debian box from Squeeze to Wheezy be
messy ? or as smooth as previous upgrades ?


In my case, the upgrade from squeeze to wheezy was rather straightforward and 
no more difficult than previous upgrades.


I am not surprised. Nevertheless the question is:
has ``multiarch'' features already reached Wheezy ?

Jerome







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kernel 3.0 : shutdown issue

2011-07-28 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

I have just installed kernel 3.0.0 on my Squeeze box (with some Wheezy stuff):
while shutdown process works well with kernel 2.6.39 ,
it gets into troubles with kernel 3.0.0.

In fact, I do not where to look.

Any hints is welcome,
Jerome


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Re: kernel 3.0 : shutdown issue

2011-07-28 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

On 28/07/11 17:32, lina wrote:

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Jerome BENOITg62993...@rezozer.net  wrote:

Hello List:

I have just installed kernel 3.0.0 on my Squeeze box (with some Wheezy
stuff):
while shutdown process works well with kernel 2.6.39 ,
it gets into troubles with kernel 3.0.0.


What's kind of trouble. you may wanna be more specific.


You are right.



I tried 3.0.0 on Wheezy. So far so good.



Thanks for the feed-back.

Finally I figure out the issue:
it appears that the trouble comes from chrony .
I will dig it.

Sorry for the noise,
Jerome





In fact, I do not where to look.

Any hints is welcome,
Jerome


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Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-01 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

I have just migrated from Squeeze to Wheezy.
It appeared that gnome-keyring agent interferes with my ssh-agent set-up:
I want to disable gnome-keyring agent for ssh.

At the end of the README.Debian for gnome-keyring, it is suggested
to ``simply edit /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop''.
This sounds good, of course I can edit it, but which entry to add or to modify
to disable it ?

Thanks in advance,
Jerome


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Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-01 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

Thanks for the link.

On 01/08/11 13:51, Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 13:43:10 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


I have just migrated from Squeeze to Wheezy. It appeared that
gnome-keyring agent interferes with my ssh-agent set-up: I want to
disable gnome-keyring agent for ssh.

At the end of the README.Debian for gnome-keyring, it is suggested to
``simply edit /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop''. This
sounds good, of course I can edit it, but which entry to add or to
modify to disable it ?


I remember something similar (or related) has been commented time ago in
this mailing list:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/05/msg01062.html


The solution made here is a per user solution suggexted in the README.Debian 
file,
I am looking for a system wide solution.

Finally I applied a brute force solution:
I purged gnome-keyring.

Jerome  



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Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-01 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

On 01/08/11 19:53, Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 19:39:27 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


On 01/08/11 13:51, Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 13:43:10 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


I have just migrated from Squeeze to Wheezy. It appeared that
gnome-keyring agent interferes with my ssh-agent set-up: I want to
disable gnome-keyring agent for ssh.


(...)


I remember something similar (or related) has been commented time ago
in this mailing list:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/05/msg01062.html


The solution made here is a per user solution suggexted in the
README.Debian file, I am looking for a system wide solution.


Mmm...


Finally I applied a brute force solution: I purged gnome-keyring.


Wow, how drastic!


I am agree.



Should you have removed/renamed


If I remember well, this causes trouble.


-or edited accordingly to do not start-

the system wide /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-*.desktop file I think
it would have been enough...


It was looking to do so, but I got no clear answer.

Thanks,
Jerome




Greetings,




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Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-01 Thread Jerome BENOIT



On 01/08/11 20:19, Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 20:02:56 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:



On 01/08/11 19:53, Camaleón wrote:


(...)


Should you have removed/renamed


If I remember well, this causes trouble.


I meant removing the `/etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop'



It shouldn't, at all. Is what README file says (removing the involving
elements from the menu so they don't run at start-up).


-or edited accordingly to do not start-
the system wide /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-*.desktop file I
think it would have been enough...


It was looking to do so, but I got no clear answer.


Testing is sometimes the best master :-)


Indeed:
my test was just to see if my box could survive without gnome-keyring
(and the associated pam module) as I do not really need it.
I do prefer to play with libpam-ssh :
my box survived, and ssh-agent is lauched by libpam-ssh as before but with
not interferences.
 



You run gnome-session-properties and remove the check for the desired
gnome-keyring entries. Then you look at the .desktop files of your
user profile and see what have changed to apply the same settings to the
system wide ones.


It likes there are a lot of way to disable, what let me think that is a big 
machinery
that I wanted to avoid.

Jerome



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Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-01 Thread Jerome BENOIT



On 01/08/11 22:16, Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 13:16:43 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:


Camaleón wrote:

Bob Proulx wrote:

I disagree.  If the package isn't useful then removing it is very
likely the easiest solution.  Why frustrate yourself trying to work
around the problem when removing the problem is a good solution too.


IMO, removing should be the last resort, the last thing to do.


No it is not.  That is one of the strengths of Debian. You are free to
create a installation based upon what you want to have installed.


That's another and complete different thing.

For instance, I do not use NM on my workstation boxes nor Avahi-zeroconf
so I disable those, but I disable those not because I don't know how to
setup them but becasue I don't like what they provide. And I prefer to
keep them installed because they can be useful in some scenarios so I
keep them -disabled but installed-, they do not disturb my day-to-day
work.


I know that with some other distributions you are expected to have a
set bundle of packages installed and any deviation from that bundle
isn't tolerated very well.  But that isn't Debian.  In Debian it is
perfectly fine to install what you need and to not install what you do
not need or do not want.  Really!


Yes, but Jerome was not complaining about a bloated system but how to
solve a specific problem he had with gnome-keyring and how to disable it.
He read the docs and did not found a convenient nor easy way to do what
he wanted to get. And I also think that in this case, the README file
lacks for basic instructions on what exactly has to be edited and in
what manner.

Should he had found this steps easily, I bet that gnome-keyring is still
on his system :-)


Indeed, because I would suspect that a lot of packages depend on gnome-keyring
as I could read on Google. But as only a `minimal' Gnome is actually
installed on my box, it appeared that no package depends on it.
OT: Gnome sounds heavy to me, and I plan to migrate to an alternative
sooner or later. 




Maybe if the package is completely broken or if by-passes do not work
as expected, then it's okay to get rid off it (even in such cases I
prefer to first open a bug report at tell that something supposed to
work it fails). I like to understand how stuff works.


Of course understanding how things work is great.  And filing bug
reports as appropriate improves things for everyone.  But when software
is mostly a packaging of an upstream and the upstream isn't very
responsive or has their own vision and agenda then sometimes it just
isn't productive.  You have heard the old RAH quote, Never try to teach
a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig. Unfortunately
sometimes that is true of software projects too.


I really don't think this is a packaging/packager issue nor a problem
with unresposive devels...


Anyway, gnome-keyring is part of the GNOME security stack and
password management and I find it very convenient for this task, but
that's of course up to each user.


If it is good for you then that is great!  I found that was completely
broken for my use and I had to work around it in order to make things
work for me.  My workaround was much less pleasant than removing the
broken package.  But I expect that either one or both of gnome-keyring
or libpam-gnome-keyring will be removed from my systems until the
offending behavior is corrected.  And that is perfectly okay from a
Debian viewpoint.


Nobody said it's not okay to remove a package. I said (or wanted to
state) that removing a package because something is unknown (in this
case, how to widely avoid gnome-keyring-ssh from starting) is not what I
would have done, I don't like to surrender to my OS (being Debian or
whatever OS you prefer...), I prefer to fight;-)

Greetings,



Jerome


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Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-02 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List:

On 02/08/11 00:10, Paul E Condon wrote:

On 20110801_230130, Jerome BENOIT wrote:




Indeed, because I would suspect that a lot of packages depend on gnome-keyring
as I could read on Google. But as only a `minimal' Gnome is actually
installed on my box, it appeared that no package depends on it.
OT: Gnome sounds heavy to me, and I plan to migrate to an alternative
sooner or later.


Jerome


In Squeeze, Gnome key-ring can be disabled in the drop down menus by
going to

System-Preferences-Startup Applications

Then look under the Startup Programs tab
There you will find three check boxes that mention GNOME Keyring in
their description line.
Un-check them, Close, and re-boot


According to the README.Debian of `gnome-keyring', this is also
supported in Wheezy.



This does not actually remove gnome-keyring, but it does allow lower
level system software to handle SSH keys, for instance.


Yes, but is it a per user set up, not a system wide set up.


 Disabling

things that are only available in GNOME should be the first step in
transitioning to a less heavy GUI. Your control over GNOME features
can't be anything but less reliable in the foreign environment.


What is it meant by `foreign environment' ?

Greeting,
Jerome


HTH



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Re: Firewall Setup

2011-08-02 Thread Jerome BENOIT

quid firehole ?

On 02/08/11 09:04, Jude DaShiell wrote:

Why not check out arnos-iptables-firewall?

On Tue, 2 Aug 2011, Alan Chandler wrote:


On 01/08/11 21:56, Paul Stuffins wrote:

Hi Guys,

I am trying to set iptables up, but am getting into a right mess editing
the rules direct in the init script.

What are peoples recommendations of a front end, either one that I can
run via an Apache VirtualHost, obviously on a secured and locked down
VirtualHost so that only I can access it, or via SSH.

--Paul



I am not sure I understand exactly what you mean, but this is my set of
firewall rules which I reference in /etc/network/interfaces/pre-up. They are
stored in file /etc/firewall

Unlike the other replies I hand crafted these from scratch quite a few years
ago now and they seem to have stood me in good stead.  Although some of the
destination changing rules refer to programs I haven't used for at least 5
years (GPL refers to Grand Prix Legends - a car racing sim)

The only other rules are generated by fail2ban dynamically locking out smtp
attempts to send me junk.

#!/bin/sh
#
#

INETIF=$1

KANGA=192.168.0.12
POOH=192.168.0.11


test -x /sbin/iptables || exit 0

#set -e
echo Setting up firewall on interface $INETIF
#
#   Start up ensuring that the tables are all empty
#   (ignoring any errors because there is nothing there yet)
#
 iptables -F
 iptables -t nat -F
 iptables -t mangle -F
 iptables -X

#
#   This is for established communications coming in from the internet just
#   so that I can get an idea what sort of packets they are.
#
 iptables -N i-estab
 iptables -A i-estab -p tcp --sport www -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A i-estab -p tcp --sport imap -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A i-estab -p tcp --sport imaps -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A i-estab -p tcp --sport nntp -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A i-estab -p tcp --sport domain -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A i-estab -p tcp --dport ssh -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A i-estab -p tcp --sport ftp -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A i-estab -p tcp --sport ftp-data -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A i-estab -p tcp --sport 9418 -j ACCEPT

#   Accept everything not so far accepted
 iptables -A i-estab -j ACCEPT
#
#   Route packets going out from here onto a new table so that we can do
#   things with them (logging etc)
#
 iptables -N to-inet
#
#   Just want to count a few things
#
 iptables -A to-inet -p tcp --dport www -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A to-inet -p tcp --dport imap -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A to-inet -p udp --dport domain -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A to-inet -p tcp --dport nntp -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A to-inet -p udp --dport 67:68 -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A to-inet -p tcp --dport iax -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A to-inet -p udp --dport iax -j ACCEPT
#
#Note ICMP packets I am sending out
#
 iptables -A to-inet -p icmp --icmp-type destination-unreachable -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A to-inet -p icmp --icmp-type source-quench -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A to-inet -p icmp --icmp-type time-exceeded -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A to-inet -p icmp --icmp-type parameter-problem -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A to-inet -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A to-inet -p icmp --icmp-type echo-reply -j ACCEPT
#
#   Prevent any netbios stuff leaking out from here
#
 iptables -A to-inet -p tcp --dport netbios-ns:netbios-ssn -j LOG
 iptables -A to-inet -p tcp --dport netbios-ns:netbios-ssn -j DROP
 iptables -A to-inet -p udp --dport netbios-ns:netbios-ssn -j LOG
 iptables -A to-inet -p udp --dport netbios-ns:netbios-ssn -j DROP
#
#
#   Accept every thing else
#
 iptables -A to-inet -j ACCEPT
#
#   Now make the connection to the table
#
 iptables -A OUTPUT -o $INETIF -j to-inet
#
#   Common internet Stuff
#
 iptables -N from-inet
#
#   Stuff already established is allowed but jump to chain to count things
#
 iptables -A from-inet -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j i-estab
#
#Deal with ICMP packets
#
 iptables -A from-inet -p icmp --icmp-type destination-unreachable -j
ACCEPT
 iptables -A from-inet -p icmp --icmp-type source-quench -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A from-inet -p icmp --icmp-type time-exceeded -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A from-inet -p icmp --icmp-type parameter-problem -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A from-inet -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request -j ACCEPT
#   Already accepted by related
 iptables -A from-inet -p icmp --icmp-type echo-reply -j ACCEPT
#
#   ftp-data started by mine  (already accepted in related)
#
 iptables -A from-inet -m state --state NEW -p tcp --dport ftp-data -j
ACCEPT
#
#   Socks probes should be dropped so that IRC does not thing we are
screwwing them
#
 iptables -A from-inet -p tcp --dport socks -j DROP
#
#   Drop these before logging them (just collecting them to see what
they are)
#
 iptables -A from-inet -p tcp --dport 1635 -j DROP
 iptables -A from-inet -p tcp --dport 1370 -j DROP
#
#   DHCP messsages - I need to drop server requests
#
 iptables -A from-inet -p udp 

Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-02 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello:

On 02/08/11 17:42, Camaleón wrote:

On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 09:06:48 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


On 02/08/11 00:10, Paul E Condon wrote:


(...)


This does not actually remove gnome-keyring, but it does allow lower
level system software to handle SSH keys, for instance.


Yes, but is it a per useir set up, not a system wide set up.


Mmm, maybe not...

There is only one file located under /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-
ssh.desktop and no more, I mean, there is no such a .desktop file
under user's profile.

Also, according to official docs¹, disabling from start-up applications
is one of the ways to go... and curious is that it says nothing about
this is a per user setting.



do you mean that here a user has root privilege ?


   Disabling
things that are only available in GNOME should be the first step in
transitioning to a less heavy GUI. Your control over GNOME features
can't be anything but less reliable in the foreign environment.


What is it meant by `foreign environment' ?


I think it refers to non-GNOME desktops/window managers :-)

¹http://live.gnome.org/GnomeKeyring/Ssh

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Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-02 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello:

On 02/08/11 19:46, Camaleón wrote:

On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:22:06 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


Hello:

On 02/08/11 17:42, Camaleón wrote:

On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 09:06:48 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


On 02/08/11 00:10, Paul E Condon wrote:


(...)


This does not actually remove gnome-keyring, but it does allow lower
level system software to handle SSH keys, for instance.


Yes, but is it a per useir set up, not a system wide set up.


Mmm, maybe not...

There is only one file located under /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-
ssh.desktop and no more, I mean, there is no such a .desktop file
under user's profile.


gnome seems not to follow some Linux customs.



Also, according to official docs¹, disabling from start-up applications
is one of the ways to go... and curious is that it says nothing about
this is a per user setting.



do you mean that here a user has root privilege ?


Nope, I mean what I read :-)

How do you interpret the docs?


I was ironic because I guess that you know this is implicit
because the start-up applications is set per users.
Gnome really sounds to me as a big machinery,
may be not as the late hal, but something towards it.
I have just read the LightDM was chosen over GDM in Ubuntu:
it seems I am not the only one to think this.




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Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-03 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello:

On 03/08/11 14:07, Camaleón wrote:

On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 21:23:27 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


On 02/08/11 19:46, Camaleón wrote:


(...)


This does not actually remove gnome-keyring, but it does allow
lower level system software to handle SSH keys, for instance.


Yes, but is it a per useir set up, not a system wide set up.


Mmm, maybe not...

There is only one file located under
/etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring- ssh.desktop and no more, I mean,
there is no such a .desktop file under user's profile.


gnome seems not to follow some Linux customs.


I'm not aware of any in particular. GNOME used to be committed to
freedesktop standards :-?


Also, according to official docs¹, disabling from start-up
applications is one of the ways to go... and curious is that it says
nothing about this is a per user setting.



do you mean that here a user has root privilege ?


Nope, I mean what I read :-)

How do you interpret the docs?


I was ironic because I guess that you know this is implicit because the
start-up applications is set per users.


That's the expected. But gnome-session-properties is a beast I still
don't understand very well how it goes. I see some applications available
that have not their corresponding .desktop file neither under
~/.config/autostart nor /etc/xdg/autostart, so where are these coming
from? :-?

Anyway, I sincerely doubt the only way to widely disable gnome-keyring-
ssh starts by forcing the user to compile the application with ssh
keyring-app disable, that is a non-sense. Applications that need to be
run for all of the users are located in /etc/xdg/autostart so by removing
the ones you don't want should do the job with no additional drawbacks.


Gnome really sounds to me as a big machinery, may be not as the late
hal, but something towards it. I have just read the LightDM was chosen
over GDM in Ubuntu: it seems I am not the only one to think this.


Yes, GNOME (and KDE) are becoming big developments, they scare. But also
offer lots of facilities for the lazy users (include me in the last
sentence :-P). OTOH, gnome-keyring should be only installed if you
select the full gnome-desktop-environmnet package or a close related tool.



lazy in the wrong way :-)

Have anyone submit a bug report for it ?

Jerome



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Re: Wheezy: how to disable SSH gnome-keyring by editing desktop configuration file

2011-08-03 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello:

On 03/08/11 19:04, Camaleón wrote:

On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:33:39 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


On 03/08/11 14:07, Camaleón wrote:


(...)


Anyway, I sincerely doubt the only way to widely disable
gnome-keyring- ssh starts by forcing the user to compile the
application with ssh keyring-app disable, that is a non-sense.
Applications that need to be run for all of the users are located in
/etc/xdg/autostart so by removing the ones you don't want should do the
job with no additional drawbacks.


Gnome really sounds to me as a big machinery, may be not as the late
hal, but something towards it. I have just read the LightDM was chosen
over GDM in Ubuntu: it seems I am not the only one to think this.


Yes, GNOME (and KDE) are becoming big developments, they scare. But
also offer lots of facilities for the lazy users (include me in the
last sentence :-P). OTOH, gnome-keyring should be only installed if
you select the full gnome-desktop-environmnet package or a close
related tool.



lazy in the wrong way :-)

Have anyone submit a bug report for it ?


To enhance the gnome-keyring doc/readme? Nope (most probably because of
the aforementioned lazyness) :-)


I see !


In fact, a bug report was submit in April:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=623539


I have just added some comments.

Jerome



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Re: lenny squeeze etc etc

2010-12-20 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hi ,

On 21/12/10 10:18, Jim Pazarena wrote:

what possessed the debian people to tack names on to the OS?
having actual version/release numbers seems so much clearer.
And there does appear to BE release numbers. So why promote the
goofy naming system which throws the novice?


do you really think that novices are lost with `goofy name' (as you said) 
rather than version number ?
Novices are generally lost with version numbers.

Jerome


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Re: o/t ipod

2010-12-26 Thread Jerome BENOIT

have you tried to share your iTune stuff ?

On 26/12/10 21:24, shawn wilson wrote:


On Dec 26, 2010 7:57 AM, Ted Wager t...@trufflesdad.plus.com
mailto:t...@trufflesdad.plus.com wrote:
 
  My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can
  transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on my
  machines but can get access to a Winbox at a neighbours...
 
 

IIRC, there is no real good answer for linux. I think rythmbox has some
capabilities (that can be enabled or configured). You could also
jailbreak it and just scp stuff over (though you might need to hack
around with plist xml files). Itunes on windows is an option (though I'm
not sure how to handle account security or drm issues here). Also, if
you go that route, you're not really going to be able to keep your music
synced up. If your computer can handle it, you might research into
running itunes inside of a windows virtual box session.




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Re: what process is sending this packet?

2010-12-27 Thread Jerome BENOIT

quit all unnecessary applications as firefox, and as root enter:
 
lsof -i



it may give an idea.

On 27/12/10 22:29, S Mathias wrote:

I can see, that theres a program that keeps sending packets on port 25:

Dec 27 14:11:46 a kernel: [ 6336.992320] O_D_LOG: IN= OUT=lo SRC=127.0.0.1 
DST=127.0.0.1 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=61533 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=37263 
DPT=25 WINDOW=32792 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
Dec 27 14:12:01 a kernel: [ 6352.635704] O_D_LOG: IN= OUT=lo SRC=127.0.0.1 
DST=127.0.0.1 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=55853 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=40644 
DPT=25 WINDOW=32792 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
Dec 27 14:12:04 a kernel: [ 6355.641085] O_D_LOG: IN= OUT=lo SRC=127.0.0.1 
DST=127.0.0.1 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=55854 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=40644 
DPT=25 WINDOW=32792 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
Dec 27 14:12:10 a kernel: [ 6361.649059] O_D_LOG: IN= OUT=lo SRC=127.0.0.1 
DST=127.0.0.1 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=55855 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=40644 
DPT=25 WINDOW=32792 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0

but where or how could i find out, that what process sends these packets?

thank you!








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Re: Where to download rtl8168d-1.fw

2010-12-30 Thread Jerome BENOIT

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5t=58390

On 30/12/10 16:22, Narendra Sisodiya wrote:

My one machine need rtl8168d-1.fw . Dell Studio 1557. network is not
working on that machine.
And how to install this .fw file on my system.


#NSDJ

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Re: Web calendar sharing in Evolution

2010-12-30 Thread Jerome BENOIT

http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/calendarserver

On 30/12/10 21:13, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On 12/30/2010 07:55 AM, Camaleón wrote:

Last time I searched for such solution in Icedove I reached the
conclusion that having a local server for ical (calendar sharing in the
LAN using caldav protocol) is the best option because e-mail clients
(Evolution, Iceweasel, Kmail...) all of them can have problems for direct
sharing a networked .ical file (muti-user read/write/lock operations
perform better when caldav protocol is in charge).


could you explain what server/app/package that is?
I tried apt-cache search ical, and it gave me back 350 packages (
including everything with automatICALly)..





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Fwd: Re: building a desktop that will be supported by Lenny

2011-01-19 Thread Jerome BENOIT


On 19/01/11 23:16, Camaleón wrote:

On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:09:30 +, Steve Kleene wrote:


I'm about to get a new desktop and want to run Lenny on it.  I'm
replacing a seven-year-old PC, now running Lenny, that has been crashing
off and on for a couple of years.

When I built my first Debian machine, I had to use testing (Etch at the
time) because stable (Sarge) didn't yet support my NIC.  Is there
anything in new hardware that I should particularly avoid because it
might not be suppprted by Lenny?  I'll be keeping the old peripherals,
so this only concerns the components inside the case.


I have many computers running lenny with no problems at all. All devices
are properly detected and configured.


Note that Squeeze is frozen: it is near to get stable.
What I mean is that you may want to wait for Squeeze.

Jerome



As per the NIC cards in use, I can tell you the chipsets:

00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network 
Connection (rev 02)
04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82573L Gigabit Ethernet 
Controller
06:01.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82541GI Gigabit 
EthernetController (rev 05)
05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8169 Gigabit 
Ethernet (rev 10)
02:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8001 Gigabit 
Ethernet Controller (rev 13)

I uploaded this info to the HCL so other users can benefit from it:

http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/

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Re: Let's talk about compression rates

2011-01-22 Thread Jerome BENOIT



On 22/01/11 18:44, S Mathias wrote:

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=MwDnhknf

$ ls -Sl
total 461252
-rw-rw-r--. 1 g g 111709730 Jan 22 11:06 linux-2.6.37.zip
-rw-rw-r--. 1 g g  93174605 Jan 22 11:03 linux-2.6.37.tar.gz
-rw-rw-r--. 1 g g  73552510 Jan 22 11:10 linux-2.6.37.tar.bz2
-rw-rw-r--. 1 g g  66333786 Jan 22 11:16 linux-2.6.37.7z
-rw-rw-r--. 1 g g  64035788 Jan 22 11:16 linux-2.6.37.tar.7z
-rw-rw-r--. 1 g g  63480808 Jan 22 11:20 linux-2.6.37.tar.xz
$

I presume kernel.org knows this. Why doesn't people use e.g.: XZ?


XZ is very recent compare BZ2



This is the same as in PDF's. DJVU files could be amazing too. They could 
compress [convert] a 400 MByte PDF to a 20 MByte DJVU. Amazing.

Why don't these technologies spread??

Any opinions regarding it?

Thanks.








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Re: Release file expired

2011-02-01 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello Joe,

On 01/02/11 21:58, Joe Riel wrote:

Ran apt-get update today and received

E: Release file expired, ignoring
http://linux.csua.berkeley.edu/debian/dists/testing/Release (invalid
since 6h 36min 31s)

Do I have to install/update an ssh key?


Have you tried an other mirror ?

Jerome






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Re: Squeeze release date according to distrowatch

2011-02-05 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello Mark,

you may want to read the news:

http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2011/02/

Jerome

On 05/02/11 12:51, Mark Panen wrote:

Hi,

A few days ago i read on distrowatch that squeeze will be released on
the 6h Feb, can't find the article now again.

Is this true?

Mark





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Re: which version for intel chipset 64bit

2011-02-08 Thread Jerome BENOIT

amd64

On 08/02/11 11:30, hamed hosseini wrote:

* amd64 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/amd64/iso-dvd/
* armel http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/armel/iso-dvd/
* kfreebsd-i386
  http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/kfreebsd-i386/iso-dvd/
* kfreebsd-amd64
  http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/kfreebsd-amd64/iso-dvd/
* i386 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/i386/iso-dvd/
* ia64 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/ia64/iso-dvd/
* mips http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/mips/iso-dvd/
* mipsel http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/mipsel/iso-dvd/
* powerpc http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/powerpc/iso-dvd/
* sparc http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/sparc/iso-dvd/
* s390 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/s390/iso-dvd/
* source http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/source/iso-dvd/
* multi-arch
  http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/multi-arch/iso-dvd/

which version for intel chipset 64bit?



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Re: which version for intel chipset 64bit

2011-02-08 Thread Jerome BENOIT

who does play with Itanium box ?
expert or newbie ?

On 08/02/11 14:53, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

Camaleón put forth on 2/8/2011 4:55 AM:

On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 11:34:33 +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


On 08/02/11 11:30, hamed hosseini wrote:



which version for intel chipset 64bit?


(...)


amd64


Or i386, that's up to the user ;-)


Neither of these is correct if he has an Itanium box, in which case he needs the
IA64 distro.  The OP's question was vague, as Intel has two 64 bit ISAs:  IA64
and x86-64 (the latter called EM64T/Intel64/etc by Intel, depending on the mood
of their marketing department on a given day/week/month/year--why I despise
marketing people).




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