[Declude.JunkMail] clean up virus folder
I have more than 800'000 files in the spool/virus folder. I can not delete these files through windows explorer, windows search or whatever because of the huge number of files. Which tool/method can you recommend to delete all these files? Thanks --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] clean up virus folder
Hi, How about a simple commandline? C: cd \imail\spool\virus del . Y should bring you a long way. If you want to break it down a bit do "Del a*.*", "Del b*.*", etc. to be able to let the server "get some air" in between. For the future... Here is what I use each night: DTLog is a small program I wrote which prepends each line with a date/time stamp. You need to modify those lines. The batchfile below is based on what someone else submitted here a while ago. --quote rem @Echo Offrem BB 10-mei-2004rem E-mails met virussen niet automatisch verwijderen maar een X aantalrem dagen bewaren. We doen dit door een aantal directories te gebruikenrem en deze steeds verder op te schuiven door de naam te veranderen. Derem oudste directory gooien we weg.SET LOGFILE=C:\Beheer\Logs\Virrot.logSET DTLOG=C:\Beheer\DTLog.exe %DTLOG% %LOGFILE% Rotating virus directories C:cd \IMail\Spool\Virus rem BB 6-dec-2004rem We bewaren nu 7 dagen i.p.v. 5 dagen. If Exist VirusDay7 RD /S /Q VirusDay7IF ErrorLevel 1 Goto ErrDel7Set RotDay=6If Exist VirusDay6 Ren VirusDay6 VirusDay7IF ErrorLevel 1 Goto ErrRotSet RotDay=5If Exist VirusDay5 Ren VirusDay5 VirusDay6IF ErrorLevel 1 Goto ErrRotSet RotDay=4If Exist VirusDay4 Ren VirusDay4 VirusDay5IF ErrorLevel 1 Goto ErrRotSet RotDay=3If Exist VirusDay3 Ren VirusDay3 VirusDay4IF ErrorLevel 1 Goto ErrRotSet RotDay=2If Exist VirusDay2 Ren VirusDay2 VirusDay3IF ErrorLevel 1 Goto ErrRotSet RotDay=1If Exist VirusDay1 Ren VirusDay1 VirusDay2IF ErrorLevel 1 Goto ErrRotMD VirusDay1IF Exist *.SMD Move *.SMD VirusDay1IF ErrorLevel 1 Goto ErrMov1sIF Exist *.GSC Move *.GSC VirusDay1IF ErrorLevel 1 Goto ErrMov1g%DTLOG% %LOGFILE% Rotating VirusDay directories OKDir VirusDay1 Temp1Find "File(s)" Temp1 %LOGFILE%Del Temp1Goto Einde :ErrDel7%DTLOG% %LOGFILE% Error deleting VirusDay7 directory and/or filesGoto einde :ErrRot%DTLOG% %LOGFILE% Error Renaming VirusDay%RotDay% directoryGoto einde :ErrMov1s%DTLOG% %LOGFILE% Error moving SMD files to VirusDay1 directoryDir . /a %LogFile%Goto Einde :ErrMov1g%DTLOG% %LOGFILE% Error moving GSC files to VirusDay1 directoryDir . /a %LogFile%Goto Einde :EindeSET LOGFILE=SET DTLOG=Exit--quote Met vriendelijke groet,Bonno Bloksmahoofd systeembeheer tio hogeschool hotelmanagement en toerisme begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhovent 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20[EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.tio.nl - Original Message - From: netsolution webmaster To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 10:24 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] clean up virus folder I have more than 800'000 files in the spool/virus folder.I can not delete these files through windows explorer, windows search or whatever because of the huge number of files.Which tool/method can you recommend to delete all these files?Thanks---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU / per domain config
Hi, Imail will call Declude AFTER it has completely received the message. That means you're stuck with all these junk messages. The best you can do is DELETE or HOLD them, but only AFTER you scanned them all. So with Imail+Declude you are only saving the time it takes to deliver the message into a mailbox. But, that's probably not a net saving in processor time, because I would guess it takes AT LEAST at much time to scan a message and perform all these tests that it would have taken to move the message into a mailbox. Declude is not meant to save processing cycles, it's meant to reduce work hours spent by end users reading/handling spam message. If your current box can't handle the load, than the ultimate solution is more processing power - either by upgrading the box, or by delegating some of the work to a gateway. Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of netsolution webmaster Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 10:49 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU / per domain config Hello Thanks for your answer. So I understand it can not be done to reject invalid senders simply by using Declude/Imail? I really need another product? Also another question: I use per domain configuration for Junkmail - can it be configured so that it only performs the tests on mails that go to a domain that has been set up with a configuration folder? It seems like declude is doing the tests on all mails which uses more ressources than doing the tests only when required (as defined in per domain config) Thanks Andy Schmidt schrieb: Hi, Basically, you should put a mail gateway in front of your mail server that can integrate your list of valid email recipients and that can refuse most of your messages based on your anti-spam and anti-virus policies. One option would be to run Declude's own gateway product. However, to me a crucial element of a gateway is that it MUST reject messages DURING the SMTP envelope (e.g., after the data is received but before the receipt is confirmed with a 2xx.). This way, the gateway can refuse unwanted messages with a 5xx (or 4xx) return code and the SENDING SMTP server will inform its user. It is an absolute must in case of the occasional false positive. At least a good sender will be notified that there's a problem with their email. If a gateway first accepts messages and THEN scans them, it would need to generate bounce messages AFTER the fact. The result is a very high likelihood that your system will be spamming innocent email users whose address had been faked. I simply can't consider any gateway product that doesn't do spam/virus rejection DURING the SMTP envelope! One alternative could be to set up IIS SMTP on one of your machines, point your MX there, purchase ORF and then integrate it with Sniffer so that it can reject the vast majority of your spam. If you also bring your list of valid email recipients over to that IIS/ORF/Sniffer gateway, then you can reject invalid recipients (e.g., dictionary attacks) at that machine, instead of tying up Imail with that. Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of netsolution webmaster Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 09:59 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU With the massive amount of spam mail our server has difficulties to process everything in time, since two days we are on 100% CPU and customers have difficulties with pop/imap speed (before everything was ok). What ways are there to - refuse mails that have no valid recipient on the mailserver (not bounce, just refuse/drop) so they need no more processing? - refuse/drop mails that don't pass certain tests (eg. spamcop or sniffer)? OR what other methods could speed up things? We have older versions of declude /imail server (8.15) Thanks --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send
[Declude.JunkMail] Is anyone using this with Declude?
Title: Is anyone using this with Declude? Comments? http://www.invariantsystems.com/invRegEx/default.htm#Features Thanks! Sharyn ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU
With the massive amount of spam mail our server has difficulties to process everything in time, since two days we are on 100% CPU and customers have difficulties with pop/imap speed (before everything was ok). What ways are there to - refuse mails that have no valid recipient on the mailserver (not bounce, just refuse/drop) so they need no more processing? - refuse/drop mails that don't pass certain tests (eg. spamcop or sniffer)? OR what other methods could speed up things? We have older versions of declude /imail server (8.15) Thanks --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] email from Lotus Notes - MEssage LAbs - body is blank
Has anybody seen emails that come from a Lotus Notes system using Message Labs the body is blank. A client is getting these from a known user. Declude 4.2 with Smartermail 3.x and Message Sniffer Here is the header: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 09 16:50:27 2006 Received: from mail99.messagelabs.com (216.x.x.x] by smmail.305spin.com with SMTP; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 16:50:27 -0600 Received: (qmail 7871 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2006 22:54:15 - Received: from mail.reallybigco.com (HELO mail.reallybigco.com) (65.x.x.x) by server-9.tower-99. messagelabs.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2006 22:54:15 - X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-99. messagelabs.com!1163112855!16659785!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.10.7; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [65.x.x.x] Subject: SPAM-LOW: Fw: REG Strategic Advisory Board To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5 September 26, 2003 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 16:54:14 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Notes01/reallybigco(Release 6.5.4|March 27, 2005) at 11/09/2006 04:54:15 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: base64 X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [216.x.x.x] X-Declude-Spoolname: -1082417288811.eml X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.2.12 for spam. http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [7] at 16:50:49 on 09 Nov 2006 X-Declude-Fail: BASE64 [4], FROMNOMATCH [3] X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination John Moore 305 Spin, Inc. 511 S Ohio Avenue Sedalia, MO 65301 660.827.3056 office 660.829.3056 fax 660.221.1301 cell www.305spin.com Technology Solutions for Growing Brands Since 1993 ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] clean up virus folder
Drop down to the command prompt and delete them that way change to your virus directory and do del /q /s *.smd and let it run... Darrell Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. - Original Message - From: netsolution webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:24 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] clean up virus folder I have more than 800'000 files in the spool/virus folder. I can not delete these files through windows explorer, windows search or whatever because of the huge number of files. Which tool/method can you recommend to delete all these files? Thanks --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU / per domain config
In addition to the other good suggestions here, check to be sure you do not have a nobody alias anywhere on your system. Just one nobody alias on a domain that is being attacked can kill the whole server. If you find any, delete them. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU
No sense virus scanning the 80% of the email you could be deleting. Put AVAFTERJM ON in your virus.cfg. Virus scanners are tough on the CPU. - Original Message - From: netsolution webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:58 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU With the massive amount of spam mail our server has difficulties to process everything in time, since two days we are on 100% CPU and customers have difficulties with pop/imap speed (before everything was ok). What ways are there to - refuse mails that have no valid recipient on the mailserver (not bounce, just refuse/drop) so they need no more processing? - refuse/drop mails that don't pass certain tests (eg. spamcop or sniffer)? OR what other methods could speed up things? We have older versions of declude /imail server (8.15) Thanks --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] automated response
For Tuesday, November 14th I will be away for most of the day with limited access to my cell phone and no Email access. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] for urgent computer matters. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Reverse Blacklist (sorta whitelist)
What changes would I need to make in the $defalut$.junkmail and the global.cfg file to only allow email from IPs originating from Mexico, United States and Canada but still check for SPAM? And if this is possible can I stop all other country lookups? Thanks, Kevin --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Is anyone using this with Declude?
Title: Is anyone using this with Declude? Note that you can do RegEx with a windows command as an external plugin for Declude. We use it and have been happy with the performance. Darin. - Original Message - From: Sharyn Schmidt To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:22 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Is anyone using this with Declude? Comments? http://www.invariantsystems.com/invRegEx/default.htm#Features Thanks! Sharyn ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU / per domain config
Unfortunately not. Any test that is defined in your global.cfg file will be run against all message recieved. Your $default.junkmail file simply tells Declude what to do with the message based upon the results of those tests. Dean On 11/14/06, netsolution webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Thanks for your answer. So I understand it can not be done to reject invalid senders simply by using Declude/Imail? I really need another product? Also another question: I use per domain configuration for Junkmail - can it be configured so that it only performs the tests on mails that go to a domain that has been set up with a configuration folder? It seems like declude is doing the tests on all mails which uses more ressources than doing the tests only when required (as defined in per domain config) Thanks Andy Schmidt schrieb: Hi, Basically, you should put a mail gateway in front of your mail server that can integrate your list of valid email recipients and that can refuse most of your messages based on your anti-spam and anti-virus policies. One option would be to run Declude's own gateway product. However, to me a crucial element of a gateway is that it MUST reject messages DURING the SMTP envelope (e.g., after the data is received but before the receipt is confirmed with a 2xx.). This way, the gateway can refuse unwanted messages with a 5xx (or 4xx) return code and the SENDING SMTP server will inform its user. It is an absolute must in case of the occasional false positive. At least a good sender will be notified that there's a problem with their email. If a gateway first accepts messages and THEN scans them, it would need to generate bounce messages AFTER the fact. The result is a very high likelihood that your system will be spamming innocent email users whose address had been faked. I simply can't consider any gateway product that doesn't do spam/virus rejection DURING the SMTP envelope! One alternative could be to set up IIS SMTP on one of your machines, point your MX there, purchase ORF and then integrate it with Sniffer so that it can reject the vast majority of your spam. If you also bring your list of valid email recipients over to that IIS/ORF/Sniffer gateway, then you can reject invalid recipients (e.g., dictionary attacks) at that machine, instead of tying up Imail with that. Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of netsolution webmaster Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 09:59 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU With the massive amount of spam mail our server has difficulties to process everything in time, since two days we are on 100% CPU and customers have difficulties with pop/imap speed (before everything was ok). What ways are there to - refuse mails that have no valid recipient on the mailserver (not bounce, just refuse/drop) so they need no more processing? - refuse/drop mails that don't pass certain tests (eg. spamcop or sniffer)? OR what other methods could speed up things? We have older versions of declude /imail server (8.15) Thanks --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- __ Dean Lawrence, CIO/Partner Internet Data Technology 888.GET.IDT1 ext. 701 * fax: 888.438.4381 http://www.idatatech.com/ Corporate Internet Development and Marketing Specialists --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU
Your best bet is to add a mail gateway like IMGate, Alligate, MS SMTP/ORF, etc. to take the load off of IMail for dropping connections for bad email addresses and possibly some scanning at the gateway. You might also check your Declude logs to make sure you don't have any DNS tests that are timing out and causing delays in mail scanning/higher CPU utilization. You may have to switch to DEBUG mode temporarily to check that. Darin. - Original Message - From: netsolution webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:58 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU With the massive amount of spam mail our server has difficulties to process everything in time, since two days we are on 100% CPU and customers have difficulties with pop/imap speed (before everything was ok). What ways are there to - refuse mails that have no valid recipient on the mailserver (not bounce, just refuse/drop) so they need no more processing? - refuse/drop mails that don't pass certain tests (eg. spamcop or sniffer)? OR what other methods could speed up things? We have older versions of declude /imail server (8.15) Thanks --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU
Not sure if this is any help but I had similar issues and found that my C:\IMAIL\spool\proc\work folder contained hundreds of thousands of messages. When I deleted all the messagaes in there, the pop 3 server share of the cpu dropped dramatically. I could not actually delete everything in the work folder initially. I had to stop the declude process in services, then rename the /work folder to /work2, started declude service again and a new /work folder was created. I actually have no idea why this worked and am not enough of an anorak to study why, but it worked for me and I do this every few days. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet W: www.123marbella.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of netsolution webmaster Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:59 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU With the massive amount of spam mail our server has difficulties to process everything in time, since two days we are on 100% CPU and customers have difficulties with pop/imap speed (before everything was ok). What ways are there to - refuse mails that have no valid recipient on the mailserver (not bounce, just refuse/drop) so they need no more processing? - refuse/drop mails that don't pass certain tests (eg. spamcop or sniffer)? OR what other methods could speed up things? We have older versions of declude /imail server (8.15) Thanks --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU
Hi, Basically, you should put a mail gateway in front of your mail server that can integrate your list of valid email recipients and that can refuse most of your messages based on your anti-spam and anti-virus policies. One option would be to run Declude's own gateway product. However, to me a crucial element of a gateway is that it MUST reject messages DURING the SMTP envelope (e.g., after the data is received but before the receipt is confirmed with a 2xx.). This way, the gateway can refuse unwanted messages with a 5xx (or 4xx) return code and the SENDING SMTP server will inform its user. It is an absolute must in case of the occasional false positive. At least a good sender will be notified that there's a problem with their email. If a gateway first accepts messages and THEN scans them, it would need to generate bounce messages AFTER the fact. The result is a very high likelihood that your system will be spamming innocent email users whose address had been faked. I simply can't consider any gateway product that doesn't do spam/virus rejection DURING the SMTP envelope! One alternative could be to set up IIS SMTP on one of your machines, point your MX there, purchase ORF and then integrate it with Sniffer so that it can reject the vast majority of your spam. If you also bring your list of valid email recipients over to that IIS/ORF/Sniffer gateway, then you can reject invalid recipients (e.g., dictionary attacks) at that machine, instead of tying up Imail with that. Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of netsolution webmaster Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 09:59 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU With the massive amount of spam mail our server has difficulties to process everything in time, since two days we are on 100% CPU and customers have difficulties with pop/imap speed (before everything was ok). What ways are there to - refuse mails that have no valid recipient on the mailserver (not bounce, just refuse/drop) so they need no more processing? - refuse/drop mails that don't pass certain tests (eg. spamcop or sniffer)? OR what other methods could speed up things? We have older versions of declude /imail server (8.15) Thanks --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] clean up virus folder
That worked - thanks to you and to Bonno Blocksma Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) schrieb: Drop down to the command prompt and delete them that way change to your virus directory and do del /q /s *.smd and let it run... Darrell Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. - Original Message - From: netsolution webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:24 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] clean up virus folder I have more than 800'000 files in the spool/virus folder. I can not delete these files through windows explorer, windows search or whatever because of the huge number of files. Which tool/method can you recommend to delete all these files? Thanks --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU / per domain config
Hello Thanks for your answer. So I understand it can not be done to reject invalid senders simply by using Declude/Imail? I really need another product? Also another question: I use per domain configuration for Junkmail - can it be configured so that it only performs the tests on mails that go to a domain that has been set up with a configuration folder? It seems like declude is doing the tests on all mails which uses more ressources than doing the tests only when required (as defined in per domain config) Thanks Andy Schmidt schrieb: Hi, Basically, you should put a mail gateway in front of your mail server that can integrate your list of valid email recipients and that can refuse most of your messages based on your anti-spam and anti-virus policies. One option would be to run Declude's own gateway product. However, to me a crucial element of a gateway is that it MUST reject messages DURING the SMTP envelope (e.g., after the data is received but before the receipt is confirmed with a 2xx.). This way, the gateway can refuse unwanted messages with a 5xx (or 4xx) return code and the SENDING SMTP server will inform its user. It is an absolute must in case of the occasional false positive. At least a good sender will be notified that there's a problem with their email. If a gateway first accepts messages and THEN scans them, it would need to generate bounce messages AFTER the fact. The result is a very high likelihood that your system will be spamming innocent email users whose address had been faked. I simply can't consider any gateway product that doesn't do spam/virus rejection DURING the SMTP envelope! One alternative could be to set up IIS SMTP on one of your machines, point your MX there, purchase ORF and then integrate it with Sniffer so that it can reject the vast majority of your spam. If you also bring your list of valid email recipients over to that IIS/ORF/Sniffer gateway, then you can reject invalid recipients (e.g., dictionary attacks) at that machine, instead of tying up Imail with that. Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of netsolution webmaster Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 09:59 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU With the massive amount of spam mail our server has difficulties to process everything in time, since two days we are on 100% CPU and customers have difficulties with pop/imap speed (before everything was ok). What ways are there to - refuse mails that have no valid recipient on the mailserver (not bounce, just refuse/drop) so they need no more processing? - refuse/drop mails that don't pass certain tests (eg. spamcop or sniffer)? OR what other methods could speed up things? We have older versions of declude /imail server (8.15) Thanks --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clustering solution
SQL Database Mirroring is available in their Standard Edition, and I believe that in a Active / Passive architecture, only one license is required. We use it, but our needs are slight. I have a friend who uses it, and they've a very complex telephony app, and they've been happy. They migrated from whatever the CA db mirroring application is. Hope that helps. Rob Robert Grosshandler --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] email from Lotus Notes - MEssage LAbs - body is blank
Is Declude set to add a footer? If so remove the footer option. Declude will corrupt a base 64 email, resulting in a blank email. Kevin Bilbee From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:12 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] email from Lotus Notes - MEssage LAbs - body is blank Has anybody seen emails that come from a Lotus Notes system using Message Labs – the body is blank. A client is getting these from a known user. Declude 4.2 with Smartermail 3.x and Message Sniffer Here is the header: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 09 16:50:27 2006 Received: from mail99.messagelabs.com (216.x.x.x] by smmail.305spin.com with SMTP; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 16:50:27 -0600 Received: (qmail 7871 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2006 22:54:15 - Received: from mail.reallybigco.com (HELO mail.reallybigco.com) (65.x.x.x) by server-9.tower-99. messagelabs.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2006 22:54:15 - X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-99. messagelabs.com!1163112855!16659785!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.10.7; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [65.x.x.x] Subject: SPAM-LOW: Fw: REG Strategic Advisory Board To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5 September 26, 2003 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 16:54:14 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Notes01/reallybigco(Release 6.5.4|March 27, 2005) at 11/09/2006 04:54:15 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: base64 X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [216.x.x.x] X-Declude-Spoolname: -1082417288811.eml X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.2.12 for spam. http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [7] at 16:50:49 on 09 Nov 2006 X-Declude-Fail: BASE64 [4], FROMNOMATCH [3] X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination John Moore 305 Spin, Inc. 511 S Ohio Avenue Sedalia, MO 65301 660.827.3056 office 660.829.3056 fax 660.221.1301 cell www.305spin.com Technology Solutions for Growing Brands Since 1993 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU / per domain config
If your current box can't handle the load, than the ultimate solution is more processing power - either by upgrading the box, or by delegating some of the work to a gateway. ASSP is a great addition to an overworked Imail/Declude server and will reduce the amount of email that server has to cope with. It is free and will run on the same server as Imail/Declude or on another spare box under Windows or Linux. It will do envelope rejection of invalid recipients, invalid senders, invalid HELO, etc. It is very configurable, and will even do automatic blacklisting of IP's that misbehave. It also has an active development group. see: http://assp.sourceforge.net/ http://www.asspsmtp.org/wiki/Welcome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Spam_SMTP_Proxy Doug Traylor --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] email from Lotus Notes - MEssage LAbs - body is blank
There is footer enabled in virus.cfg. I have disabled it there (and restarted decludeproc service). I did not find any use of footer in the global.cfg or default junkmail file. thanks! John From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:54 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] email from Lotus Notes - MEssage LAbs - body is blank Is Declude set to add a footer? If so remove the footer option. Declude will corrupt a base 64 email, resulting in a blank email. Kevin Bilbee From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:12 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] email from Lotus Notes - MEssage LAbs - body is blank Has anybody seen emails that come from a Lotus Notes system using Message Labs the body is blank. A client is getting these from a known user. Declude 4.2 with Smartermail 3.x and Message Sniffer Here is the header: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 09 16:50:27 2006 Received: from mail99.messagelabs.com (216.x.x.x] by smmail.305spin.com with SMTP; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 16:50:27 -0600 Received: (qmail 7871 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2006 22:54:15 - Received: from mail.reallybigco.com (HELO mail.reallybigco.com) (65.x.x.x) by server-9.tower-99. messagelabs.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2006 22:54:15 - X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-99. messagelabs.com!1163112855!16659785!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.10.7; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [65.x.x.x] Subject: SPAM-LOW: Fw: REG Strategic Advisory Board To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5 September 26, 2003 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 16:54:14 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Notes01/reallybigco(Release 6.5.4|March 27, 2005) at 11/09/2006 04:54:15 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: base64 X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [216.x.x.x] X-Declude-Spoolname: -1082417288811.eml X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.2.12 for spam. http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [7] at 16:50:49 on 09 Nov 2006 X-Declude-Fail: BASE64 [4], FROMNOMATCH [3] X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination John Moore 305 Spin, Inc. 511 S Ohio Avenue Sedalia, MO 65301 660.827.3056 office 660.829.3056 fax 660.221.1301 cell www.305spin.com Technology Solutions for Growing Brands Since 1993 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU / per domain config
Does anyone know if it works with smartermail? It is not listed on the site, but says other standard smtp servers Herb Doug Traylor wrote: If your current box can't handle the load, than the ultimate solution is more processing power - either by upgrading the box, or by delegating some of the work to a gateway. ASSP is a great addition to an overworked Imail/Declude server and will reduce the amount of email that server has to cope with. It is free and will run on the same server as Imail/Declude or on another spare box under Windows or Linux. It will do envelope rejection of invalid recipients, invalid senders, invalid HELO, etc. It is very configurable, and will even do automatic blacklisting of IP's that misbehave. It also has an active development group. see: http://assp.sourceforge.net/ http://www.asspsmtp.org/wiki/Welcome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Spam_SMTP_Proxy Doug Traylor --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- Herb Guenther Lanex, LLC www.lanex.com (262)789-0966x102 Office (262)780-0424 Direct This e-mail is confidential and is for the use of the intended recipient(s)only. If you are not an intended recipient please advise us of our error by return e-mail then delete this e-mail and any attached files. You may not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU / per domain config
Actually it would work with smartermail according to smartermail forum messages, but some of the comments on the smartermail forum state that folks had stability problems with it. The posts are 1 - 2 years old so may be better now. Herb Doug Traylor wrote: If your current box can't handle the load, than the ultimate solution is more processing power - either by upgrading the box, or by delegating some of the work to a gateway. ASSP is a great addition to an overworked Imail/Declude server and will reduce the amount of email that server has to cope with. It is free and will run on the same server as Imail/Declude or on another spare box under Windows or Linux. It will do envelope rejection of invalid recipients, invalid senders, invalid HELO, etc. It is very configurable, and will even do automatic blacklisting of IP's that misbehave. It also has an active development group. see: http://assp.sourceforge.net/ http://www.asspsmtp.org/wiki/Welcome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Spam_SMTP_Proxy Doug Traylor --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- Herb Guenther Lanex, LLC www.lanex.com (262)789-0966x102 Office (262)780-0424 Direct This e-mail is confidential and is for the use of the intended recipient(s)only. If you are not an intended recipient please advise us of our error by return e-mail then delete this e-mail and any attached files. You may not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU / per domain config
Sounds good - do you have more details (short instructions) on how to set that up combined with declude/imail? Thanks! Doug Traylor schrieb: If your current box can't handle the load, than the ultimate solution is more processing power - either by upgrading the box, or by delegating some of the work to a gateway. ASSP is a great addition to an overworked Imail/Declude server and will reduce the amount of email that server has to cope with. It is free and will run on the same server as Imail/Declude or on another spare box under Windows or Linux. It will do envelope rejection of invalid recipients, invalid senders, invalid HELO, etc. It is very configurable, and will even do automatic blacklisting of IP's that misbehave. It also has an active development group. see: http://assp.sourceforge.net/ http://www.asspsmtp.org/wiki/Welcome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Spam_SMTP_Proxy Doug Traylor --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU / per domain config
On 11/14/06, Herb Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually it would work with smartermail according to smartermail forum messages, but some of the comments on the smartermail forum state that folks had stability problems with it. The posts are 1 - 2 years old so may be better now. ASSP is a proxy. It sits in front of _any_ SMTP server service. It does _not_ do store and forward and is therefore not a gateway. It can work in concert with another SMTP server service to perform gateway service to an existing Imail site. I am using ASSP feeding hMailserver which then hands off to a couple of Imail servers. hMailserver is functioning as one of my SMTP antivirus scanners in that it integrates with SOSDG Clam AV clamd service and is very fast and does not have any domains defined in it except in the routing section. hMailserver then routes the email to one of my Imail servers based on recipient domain. In my experience, ASSP, hMailserver, and Imail together are completely stable and I have been using them for years. ASSP does not currently support SSL/TLS but will work with standard SMTP auth and can listen on multiple ports. Doug Traylor --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU / per domain config
On 11/14/06, netsolution webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds good - do you have more details (short instructions) on how to set that up combined with declude/imail? Hah! Me? Short instructions? I can't give short instructions on how to tie a shoe! :o) Setting up ASSP/hMailserver/ClamAV/Imail/Declude will be a fairly long process with the good news that not much has to change for your Imail/Declude setup except the listen port and the SMTP delivery gateway:port. If you add hMailserver as a gateway and use Declude Junkmail to do connection based analysis (spf, rbl, helo, etc.) using the sending IP, you will be disappointed to find the the sending IP will now be your own server and unless you have the premium version of Declude Junkmail it will no longer be useful to compare the sending IP. I believe the premium version of Declude will look at all the IP's in the path and potentially exclude your servers. Not sure about that one. The good news is that with ASSP in front, you may not miss it. Using ASSP alone in front of Imail/Declude should allow Declude connection tests to continue to work. Since this is a Declude list I will spare the other members the horror of reading about another product's installation steps and send you a synopsis directly to your list address if that is OK. For those interested, I say check out the links in my earlier post for ASSP, www.hmailserver.com for that and http://www.sosdg.org/clamav-win32/ for ClamAV on Windows. and once installed, to integrate clamav with hmailserver; http://www.hmailserver.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2139 Doug Traylor --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU / per domain config
Yes, Declude can look at all the IPs in the connecting path. Or it can just skip you IPs and look at the connecting IP so many hops away. Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Traylor Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:08 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU / per domain config On 11/14/06, netsolution webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds good - do you have more details (short instructions) on how to set that up combined with declude/imail? Hah! Me? Short instructions? I can't give short instructions on how to tie a shoe! :o) Setting up ASSP/hMailserver/ClamAV/Imail/Declude will be a fairly long process with the good news that not much has to change for your Imail/Declude setup except the listen port and the SMTP delivery gateway:port. If you add hMailserver as a gateway and use Declude Junkmail to do connection based analysis (spf, rbl, helo, etc.) using the sending IP, you will be disappointed to find the the sending IP will now be your own server and unless you have the premium version of Declude Junkmail it will no longer be useful to compare the sending IP. I believe the premium version of Declude will look at all the IP's in the path and potentially exclude your servers. Not sure about that one. The good news is that with ASSP in front, you may not miss it. Using ASSP alone in front of Imail/Declude should allow Declude connection tests to continue to work. Since this is a Declude list I will spare the other members the horror of reading about another product's installation steps and send you a synopsis directly to your list address if that is OK. For those interested, I say check out the links in my earlier post for ASSP, www.hmailserver.com for that and http://www.sosdg.org/clamav-win32/ for ClamAV on Windows. and once installed, to integrate clamav with hmailserver; http://www.hmailserver.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2139 Doug Traylor --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] IPBYPASS with multiple domains
I have a customer whose email domain we are hosting who recently began using Postini. This is the first time I've had to deal with a gateway. The documentation is pretty clear, but I do have one question. Since the gateway is only for one domain, will IPBYPASS work without interfering with the other domains? Or will I have to use HOPHIGH to catch them all? Bill Green dfn Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IPBYPASS with multiple domains
Yes use IP bypass. Hop High will work for all emails. IPBYPASS will only work against known IP addresses. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Green dfn Systems Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:11 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] IPBYPASS with multiple domains I have a customer whose email domain we are hosting who recently began using Postini. This is the first time I've had to deal with a gateway. The documentation is pretty clear, but I do have one question. Since the gateway is only for one domain, will IPBYPASS work without interfering with the other domains? Or will I have to use HOPHIGH to catch them all? Bill Green dfn Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CMDSPACE/SmarterMail
Anyone using SmarterMail with Declude using the cmdspace test and not seeing cmdspace test entries in their log files??? I suspect David is looking for others who maybe seeing what I am seeing. Thanks, Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:19 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CMDSPACE/SmarterMail I am looking for more information regarding this issue. Is this unique to the SM Enterprise Edition? Also, does it seem to be related to a specific version of Declude? Any help with this would be appreciated. David B www.declude.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:44 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CMDSPACE/SmarterMail My understanding from quite a while ago is that SmarterMail did not pass the CMDSPACE info on to Declude (somehow). So the test is irrelevant in SmarterMail. Maybe this has been corrected in some newer version of SmarterMail?? Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 3:40 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CMDSPACE/SmarterMail Thanks, David. It's little things like this short acknowledging message that can go miles towards making your customers feel better about Declude's support. Gary Original Message From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 3:10 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CMDSPACE/SmarterMail I see that too, I will look into this. David B www.declude.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 2:27 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: re: [Declude.JunkMail] CMDSPACE/SmarterMail I'm also using SmarterMail Enterprise Edition 3.3.2439 and Declude 4.3.14, and have had CMDSPACE configured for quite a while, but hadn't thought anything about it. When I saw your message I ran DLanalyzer on my logs for the past two weeks and saw that there were no hits for CMDSPACE at all. So it seems I am experiencing the same problem. Gary Original Message From: Michael Jaworski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 10:45 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] CMDSPACE/SmarterMail We just started using CMDSPACE and noticed the test does not appears to be working on SmarterMail Enterprise Edition 3.3.2439 and Declude 4.3.14. I am not seeing any errors in the debug level logs files. A check of the release logs it appears support for CMDSPACE test in Smartermail was provided in 4.0.9. (Feb 2006) Anyone seeing the same thing? Here are my relevant entries without quotes: Global.cfg - CMDSPACE cmdspaceX X 8 0 $default$.junkmail - CMDSPACE WARN Mike --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clustering solution
SQL Database Mirroring is available in their Standard Edition, and I believe that in a Active / Passive architecture, only one license is required. Strange but true, from what I can see! This convo has stirred my interest in this thing, though I'll stick with the app-independent Double-Take by default. --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release/ Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/download/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/release/ --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clustering solution
Database mirroring is not the same as clustering. You dont need the same kind of resources and licenses. Robert E. Spivack VP Sales Marketing Voicegateway.com Web Services / SPIV Technologies Group (408) 834-8560 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heimir Eidskrem Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:26 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clustering solution I did get a price from Dell for 2 licenses to run a SQL cluster for an internet application. Got it in writing too. Price for the Microsoft software only: $54,000 Robert E. Spivack wrote: If using SQL Server 2005, the new database mirroring (aka real-time logshipping) is an excellent solution if you would rather put your $$$into SQL Server licenses (enterprise edition required) and hardwareinstead of a 3rd party app.An advantage of using Microsoft Database Mirroring is that you canremain on a 100% Microsoft supported solution. Assuming aclustered/mission-critical installation would want to insure they haveaccess to PSS (Microsoft product support) for any critical situations,this could be a decisive factor over choosing a 3rd party genericclustering or C/SFS (clustered/storage file system) solution.I'd be curious to hear if Sandy or anyone has compared db mirroring todouble-take and other solutions that made sense before this feature wasavailable but may be less desirable now.Robert E. SpivackVP Sales MarketingVoicegateway.com Web Services / SPIV Technologies Group(408) 834-8560[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf OfSanford WhitemanSent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 4:27 PMTo: Sanford WhitemanSubject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clustering solution Seriously, what's low? ...I ask because clustering's ROI is kind of a hard target.Unfortunately, I almost always find it easier to justify clusteringsolutions for my clients *after* they haven't heeded an initialclustering suggestion and have had outages and/or data loss (or if Iget them as I clients after such an incident).We use Double-Take as a pseudo-standard, as it has broad industrysupport and works equally well over the local and wide area. It'sgoing to run you upwards of $3500 for one two-server cluster. Is thatlow?I've demoed and am intrigued by XGForce's eClusterhttp://www.xgforce.com/news_eCluster.html, which has much moreaccessible pricing. I plan to purchase it in place of DT for my nextrollout and see if I can trust it. But for now, I can't vouch for it,though if you get into it, please let me know. :)--SandySanford Whiteman, Chief TechnologistBroadleaf Systems, a division ofCypress Integrated Systems, Inc.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release/Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMailAliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/download/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/release/---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clustering solution
SPLA licensing is very affordable. There are no SPLA licenses for many 3rd party products so staying with Microsoft is actually cheaper if you are a service provider. Robert E. Spivack VP Sales Marketing Voicegateway.com Web Services / SPIV Technologies Group (408) 834-8560 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 11:21 PM To: Robert E. Spivack Subject: Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clustering solution An advantage of using Microsoft Database Mirroring is that you can remain on a 100% Microsoft supported solution. Sure, but for the cost, you can have a full-time NSI engineer instead (who by necessity and experience knows their supported MS apps like the back of her/his hand). Many 24/7 enterprises leave the PSS fine print behind to use third-party clustering solutions that better fit their needs. Bottom line is you have to do your homework in all areas to be able to support geoclusters or local clusters. [Also, to be frank about these things, there's nothing forcing you divulge an underlying clustering scenario to PSS. There's a difference between trying to fool them into a wild goose chase, and knowing from experience -- and comparison with a cluster-free lab -- that an issue is 99.999% likely to be observed even if the cluster is taken down and uninstalled, and thus acting in good faith in concentrating on the issue at hand.] I'd be curious to hear if Sandy or anyone has compared db mirroring to double-take and other solutions that made sense before this feature was available but may be less desirable now. I haven't, mostly due to the cost, but also because I more often find myself clustering apps that wouldn't apply (Sybase, Exchange, nonupgradeable MSSQL 2000, mailbox storage back ends and filesystems, MySQL, and so on). Someday, if somebody's really running the table with MS products and has overflowing pockets, I'd be interested in looking into it. --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/rel ease/ Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/dow nload/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/downloa d/release/ --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clustering solution
Not correct. Database mirroring is supported in Std Edition, but you need two licenses. The third server, the witness server can be an XP OS and SQL Server 2005 Express (Free version) can be used on the witness server since it does a crucial function but doesn't do any heavy processing. You can run without the witness server, but then you don't automatic failover. And of course, you need to be using the new SQL server 2005 native client libraries on the client stations for transparent/automatic failover. Robert E. Spivack VP Sales Marketing Voicegateway.com Web Services / SPIV Technologies Group (408) 834-8560 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:01 PM To: Robert Grosshandler Subject: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clustering solution SQL Database Mirroring is available in their Standard Edition, and I believe that in a Active / Passive architecture, only one license is required. Strange but true, from what I can see! This convo has stirred my interest in this thing, though I'll stick with the app-independent Double-Take by default. --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/rel ease/ Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/dow nload/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/downloa d/release/ --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re[8]: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clustering solution
Not correct. Database mirroring is supported in Std Edition, but you need two licenses. Hmm, the Hor$e's Mouth disagrees: http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/passive-server-failover-support.mspx The third server, the witness server can be an XP OS and SQL Server 2005 Express (Free version) can be used on the witness server since it does a crucial function but doesn't do any heavy processing. A regrettably complex architecture, compared to the simplicity of clustering. Kind of crazy, actually. Seems perhaps you can run the witness server as a different instance, or at least in a VM, instead of ponying up for a 3rd piece of hardware... ? Yuck, no matter what. And of course, you need to be using the new SQL server 2005 native client libraries on the client stations for transparent/automatic failover. Sounds like another reason this is not necessarily implementable in full, depending on your client layout, fixed commercial applications, and so on. BUT overall, we're comparing apples and oranges. OP (Serge) is talking about clustering Hyper File (the proprietary WINDEV back end), which means he needs an application-agnostic solution: Double-Take, eCluster, Microsoft clusters, etc. --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release/ Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/download/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/download/release/ --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: Re[8]: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clustering solution
There are some big differences between clustering and database mirroring. Clustering requires running Microsoft approved storage hardware and must be iSCSI or fiber channel. That imposes a physical distance limitation between the two servers. With mirroring, you only need an IP connection between them. You could actually have one on the East Coast and the other on the West Coast or somewhere in between so geographic diversity / location redundancy is possible whereas clustering implies both servers are in the same data center let alone the same city, state, locale. Mirroring is actually much easier to setup than clustering. Just a few quick clicks on setup/configuration and it's done. The witness server is optional. The concept is similar to clustering with MNV (majority node voting). The witness or 3rd server is needed to avoid deadlock if there is a comm. link failure between two servers each could declare itself the primary and the other dead so the witness is needed to resolve the deadlock. That's why auto-failure requires a witness server. Without a witness server, you have manual failover because a human is required to determine which server has failed and whether to force a fail over to the second server. Robert E. Spivack VP Sales Marketing Voicegateway.com Web Services / SPIV Technologies Group (408) 834-8560 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:43 PM To: Robert E. Spivack Subject: Re[8]: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clustering solution Not correct. Database mirroring is supported in Std Edition, but you need two licenses. Hmm, the Hor$e's Mouth disagrees: http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/passive-server-failover-support.ms px The third server, the witness server can be an XP OS and SQL Server 2005 Express (Free version) can be used on the witness server since it does a crucial function but doesn't do any heavy processing. A regrettably complex architecture, compared to the simplicity of clustering. Kind of crazy, actually. Seems perhaps you can run the witness server as a different instance, or at least in a VM, instead of ponying up for a 3rd piece of hardware... ? Yuck, no matter what. And of course, you need to be using the new SQL server 2005 native client libraries on the client stations for transparent/automatic failover. Sounds like another reason this is not necessarily implementable in full, depending on your client layout, fixed commercial applications, and so on. BUT overall, we're comparing apples and oranges. OP (Serge) is talking about clustering Hyper File (the proprietary WINDEV back end), which means he needs an application-agnostic solution: Double-Take, eCluster, Microsoft clusters, etc. --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/rel ease/ Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases! http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/dow nload/release/ http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/downloa d/release/ --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
