[Declude.JunkMail] Outlook SCL X-header

2007-01-29 Thread Mark Smith
Does anyone know if there's a valid X-note header that can be placed in the
message body that will cause Outlook to automatically route emails to the
Junk-email folder?
I wanted to use this approach rather than tagging the subject line and
relying on users to build their own rules in Outlook.

Thx



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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail

2006-07-20 Thread Mark Smith
I know this belongs on the IMAIL forum but I'm not subscribed there --
apologies in advance.

Does anyone know of a way to globally disable the information manager so I
can prevent users from setting up auto-responders?

Thx




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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail Aliases

2006-01-18 Thread Mark Smith
Sorry about the Off-Topic question...

I use Imail/Declude as a gateway system only for a large Exchange org.
To avoid the dictionary attacks, we do some scripting magic to put the
Exchange SMTP addresses in the Imail Alias setup.

Here's the problem. Our Exchange org has two domains associated with it due
to a merger -- let's say @apple.com and @orange.com
We've run into a problem with a generic mailbox for each of these domains --
info. There has always been an [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Since the Imail Alias only contains the mailbox name (info) we have no way
to email directly into both domains through this gateway server.

Any ideas on how to get around this?



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[Declude.JunkMail] Inject SCL value into header with Declude

2005-12-18 Thread Mark Smith
Has anyone ever tried to inject an Outlook/Exchange IMF SCL value into the
header with Declude?
The header looks like this:

x-sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
x-receiver: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-SCL: 7 93.4%

Basically I wanted to see if I could use this as an action to force spam
into the Outlook junkmail folder.
Obviously this would depend on the IMF settings for the Exchange
organization..



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[Declude.JunkMail] Checking country so many times...

2005-12-12 Thread Mark Smith
Just moved to 3.05.22 and my server's can't keep up with the queue (but they
can with 2.06).
Threads=20 CPU's fine.
Anyway, I set Declude logs to debug and I'm seeing this for every message.

Anyone know why Declude would check the country so many times?


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Checking country so many times...

2005-12-12 Thread Mark Smith
Matt,
Thanks for the info but no dice.
I reverted back to 2.6 and blazing fast processing. There's just something
about 3.05 on my servers that runs slow.
And I've got 3 servers doing the same thing..

SysInternals Process explorer shows that DecludeProc really isn't calling
that many instances of spamchk, sniffer, etc.
It's like the files go into the work folder but just hang out there for a
while. It's almost as if there's a pause between each test.

Odd..

Had to go back to 2.6 again.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
 Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 1:01 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Checking country so many times...

 Mark,

 I believe that most people that are seeing backups have
 reported that raising their THREADS to something like 75 and
 lowering their WAITFORTHREADS to something like 1 will clean
 up their performance issues.  This seems to be common for
 those around here that get more than 50,000 messages a day on
 a server and/or report that they are backing up E-mail but
 have spare CPU.

 I'm not sure why these settings are manually adjustable, or
 at least not having the defaults targeted at the higher
 volume servers where it matters the most.  It seems that the
 critical piece is the CPU utilization and not the threads,
 and of course all threads are not created equally.  A single
 thread could result in 100% CPU utilization on it's own on my
 beefy server, but on the other hand a message that doesn't
 get virus scanned (passes PRESCAN) and gets to the DELETE
 weight from RBL's alone is hardly a blip.  My biggest issue
 with getting slammed are bounce messages since they are
 mostly being scanned for viruses, and when the bounces come
 from a client's server and are legitimate (and pass spam
 scanning), every single filter needs to be run, and these
 messages typically come in real fast.  It would make so much
 more sense to monitor the CPU utilization and adjust the
 WAITBETWEENTHREADS number according to how high the CPU is.
 For instance, if the CPU is at 100% for the last 5 seconds,
 one should maybe wait 1 second before processing the next
 E-mail until it drops again, but if the CPU is at 50% for the
 last 5 seconds, the wait should be 0.

 So anyway, I would just leave your threads in an area that
 could be impractical for your server to handle and just hope
 that it stays stable under heavy load.  That at least seems
 to be the net result of changing these settings to the values
 that others have described doing.

 Matt



 Mark Smith wrote:

 Just moved to 3.05.22 and my server's can't keep up with the
 queue (but
 they can with 2.06).
 Threads=20 CPU's fine.
 Anyway, I set Declude logs to debug and I'm seeing this for
 every message.
 
 Anyone know why Declude would check the country so many times?
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ANN: Availability of 5xxSink 0.5.00, IIS SMTP event sink for text-file recipient validation

2005-12-05 Thread Mark Smith
I've always wondered why Declude can't use IIS SMTP as its MTA?

Seems like a pretty big market for the people who want a gateway only system
-- or even Exchange.





 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Sanford Whiteman
 Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 7:29 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com;
 IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com; Declude.Virus@declude.com;
 sniffer@SortMonster.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] ANN: Availability of 5xxSink
 0.5.00, IIS SMTP event sink for text-file recipient validation

 All,

 I've posted 5XXSINK, an IIS SMTP event sink (freeware) that
 allows you to  block unknown recipients at your IIS 5.0 or
 6.0 MX by populating a barebones textfile.

 Those  who  use the powerful IIS SMTP engine as an MX have no
 built-in method  of  preventing  brute-force  spam runs from
 overwhelming their internal  content  scanning  and  mailbox
 servers with wasted message processing and double-bounce
 generation. Several commercial anti-abuse products  can add
 this functionality, but they can add undue cost to a large
 server  farm,  and seem like overkill when a well-tuned
 content scanning  engine (IMail's, Declude's, etc.) already
 exists internally, save  for  the  fact  that it sees
 messages that should never get that far.

 While  it is debatable whether having envelope recipient
 validation at your MXs will reduce the number of spammers
 making initial connections to you, it cannot be denied that
 having such validation will save your hardware  and
 bandwidth  resources  beyond the first part of the SMTP
 conversation.  Recipient  validation at the MX can make the
 difference between  a  workable  anti-spam  content  scanner
 and  one that fails because it's overwhelmed by messages it
 should never see.

 5XXSINK  is  designed to do one thing, do it well, and do it for free:
 to  look  up  full  e-mail addresses in a locally stored text
 file and reject  all  RCPT TO commands that do match a line
 in the file. That's it.

 5XXSINK  is  NOT  designed  to  do  any  of  the following: connection
 throttling,   tarpitting,   greylisting,   sender   validation,   HELO
 interpretation,  or  DNSBL  lookups.  It expects that a
 robust content scanning  solution  exists  behind, or perhaps
 on, the IIS SMTP server (although commercial IIS SMTP
 integrations solutions usually duplicate 5XXSINK's recipient
 validation functionality -- and then some). Again, the  sole
 function is to keep messages that absolutely, positively do
 not  need  to  be scanned out of the scanning path. There are
 no false positives  with recipient validation, so it's an
 obvious first step in an anti-abuse chain.

 5XXSINK  is  multithreaded  and  likely  performs  its very
 particular function as fast as practically possible.

 * * *

 Download:


 http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/5xxsink/do
 wnload/release

 Be sure to go over the README in-depth. That's where it's at.


 Support:

 Through  the  IMail  and Declude support lists, as the communities
 primarily  served by the product. Please post support questions as
 [OT]  to  create  a  public  archive  and  to  encourage knowledge
 sharing.

 --Sandy





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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Anyone at Exchange and Windows Connections This week?

2005-11-02 Thread Mark Smith



Here 
in San Diego?




FW: [Declude.JunkMail] Headers showing up in the body on 3.05.10

2005-10-28 Thread Mark Smith
David,
Just for follow-up.
As I posted earlier we reverted back to 2.6 from 3.6.11 and 99% of these
headers in the body messages are gone.





 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 4:54 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Headers showing up in the body on
 3.05.10

 David,
 Thanks for the explanation!

 However, I have yet to see a message with SMTP headers in the body if
 I remove Declude and send mail directly into Exchange.
 Maybe Exchange will just not deliver?



  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 David Barker
  Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 3:27 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Headers showing up in the body on
  3.05.10
 
  In every instance that we have observed so far the headers
 in the body
  are caused by broken mail clients. This is not only an issue for
  Declude but for mail servers as well. To illustrates the difficulty
  coming up with a single algorithm that will detect all instances of
  these broken emails to prevent headers from appearing at
 the end of a
  message or within the body of a message.
 
  RFC dictates all lines must end with a CR/LF sequence, with
 a double
  sequence CR/LF/CR/LF separating the headers from the body.
  Technically, that would be a 0D 0A 0D 0A sequence.
 
  In the byte sequence below, the sixth line contains:
 
  22 0A 20 0D 0A 49 20 73-74 61 72 74 65 64 20 68
 
  where a single 0A is followed by a space and then the
 required 0D 0A
  sequence. When this problem was first reported, changes
 were made in
  the source to detect a simple 0A as a line terminator, followed by
  another line terminator sequence.
 
  However, this example would not get detected because they
 inserted a
  space, which is invisible, between the two line termination
 sequences.
  They could have inserted a tab (09) also, so checking only
 for a space
  would not have caught all possibilities.
 
  In addition, checking only for spaces at the beginning of a
 line would
  not solve the problem because certain header lines can be
 continued on
  the next line, which requires spaces and then non-blank characters
  prior to the next line termination sequence.
 
  30 38 3A 35 37 3A 31 33-20 2D 30 35 30 30 0D 0A 4D 49 4D 45
 2D 56 65
  72-73 69 6F 6E 3A 20 31 2E 30 0D 0A 43 6F 6E 74 65-6E 74 2D
 54 79 70
  65 3A 20 74 65 78 74 2F 70 6C-61 69 6E 3B 0D 0A 09 63
  68 61 72 73 65 74 3D 22-75 73 2D 61 73 63 69 69
  22 0A 20 0D 0A 49 20 73-74 61 72 74 65 64 20 68
  61 76 69 6E 67 20 61 6E-20 61 66 66 61 69 72 20
  77 69 74 68 20 61 20 79-6F 75 6E 67 65 72 2C 20
 
  Often from the outset these issues look extremely simple.
  However, because all eventualities that have to be covered
 it becomes
  quite complex. I am providing this example because things
 are rarely
  as simple as they may at first appear.
 
  With all that said we are looking into providing a solution
 for this
  problem.
 
  David B
  www.declude.com
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
  Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:07 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Headers showing up in the body on
  3.05.10
 
  This looks like Declude was expecting to see an occurrence of Blank
  Folding, but it is making the mistake of detecting headers
 in the MIME
  segments or the body as a continuation of the real headers, either
  that or they changed the code that detects where to throw in the
  Declude generated headers in order to handle Blank Folding.  IMO,
  Declude should just throw the headers just before the
 location of the
  first CRLFCRLF or possibly following a mistaken LFLF.
 
  I haven't seen any Declude headers in the body using 2.0.6.16 and
  earlier.
 
  Matt
 
 
 
  Robert Grosshandler wrote:
 
  This has been a problem for awhile (happened with the move
  to the new
  architecture, but Declude says it's not connected.)
  
  The headers are bad when they make it to Declude, and
  Declude doesn't
  handle them right.
  
  Fortunately, in our setup, they all still get treated as
  very heavily
  weighted spam, so they never make it to users.
  
  Rob
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
  Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 6:17 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Headers showing up in the body
 on 3.05.10
  
  Ever since I went to 3.05.10 (now on 3.05.11) I've been receiving
  hundreds of complaints of spam making it to my users.
  After inspection, Declude is subject line marking the
  messages but it's
  moving the SMTP headers to the body of the email. This results in
  user's Outlook rules not firing on the subject line keywords.
  
  Here's an example of the ACTUAL MESSAGE BODY.
  
  Anyone

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Headers showing up in the body on 3.05.10

2005-10-25 Thread Mark Smith
David,
Thanks for the explanation!

However, I have yet to see a message with SMTP headers in the body if I
remove Declude and send mail directly into Exchange.
Maybe Exchange will just not deliver?



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 3:27 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Headers showing up in the
 body on 3.05.10

 In every instance that we have observed so far the headers in
 the body are caused by broken mail clients. This is not only
 an issue for Declude but for mail servers as well. To
 illustrates the difficulty coming up with a single algorithm
 that will detect all instances of these broken emails to
 prevent headers from appearing at the end of a message or
 within the body of a message.

 RFC dictates all lines must end with a CR/LF sequence, with a
 double sequence CR/LF/CR/LF separating the headers from the
 body. Technically, that would be a 0D 0A 0D 0A sequence.

 In the byte sequence below, the sixth line contains:

 22 0A 20 0D 0A 49 20 73-74 61 72 74 65 64 20 68

 where a single 0A is followed by a space and then the
 required 0D 0A sequence. When this problem was first
 reported, changes were made in the source to detect a simple
 0A as a line terminator, followed by another line terminator
 sequence.

 However, this example would not get detected because they
 inserted a space, which is invisible, between the two line
 termination sequences. They could have inserted a tab (09)
 also, so checking only for a space would not have caught all
 possibilities.

 In addition, checking only for spaces at the beginning of a
 line would not solve the problem because certain header lines
 can be continued on the next line, which requires spaces and
 then non-blank characters prior to the next line termination sequence.

 30 38 3A 35 37 3A 31 33-20 2D 30 35 30 30 0D 0A 4D 49 4D 45
 2D 56 65 72-73 69 6F 6E 3A 20 31 2E 30 0D 0A 43 6F 6E 74
 65-6E 74 2D 54 79 70 65 3A 20 74 65 78 74 2F 70 6C-61 69 6E
 3B 0D 0A 09 63
 68 61 72 73 65 74 3D 22-75 73 2D 61 73 63 69 69
 22 0A 20 0D 0A 49 20 73-74 61 72 74 65 64 20 68
 61 76 69 6E 67 20 61 6E-20 61 66 66 61 69 72 20
 77 69 74 68 20 61 20 79-6F 75 6E 67 65 72 2C 20

 Often from the outset these issues look extremely simple.
 However, because all eventualities that have to be covered it
 becomes quite complex. I am providing this example because
 things are rarely as simple as they may at first appear.

 With all that said we are looking into providing a solution
 for this problem.

 David B
 www.declude.com

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:07 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Headers showing up in the
 body on 3.05.10

 This looks like Declude was expecting to see an occurrence of
 Blank Folding, but it is making the mistake of detecting
 headers in the MIME segments or the body as a continuation of
 the real headers, either that or they changed the code that
 detects where to throw in the Declude generated headers in
 order to handle Blank Folding.  IMO, Declude should just
 throw the headers just before the location of the first
 CRLFCRLF or possibly following a mistaken LFLF.

 I haven't seen any Declude headers in the body using 2.0.6.16
 and earlier.

 Matt



 Robert Grosshandler wrote:

 This has been a problem for awhile (happened with the move
 to the new
 architecture, but Declude says it's not connected.)
 
 The headers are bad when they make it to Declude, and
 Declude doesn't
 handle them right.
 
 Fortunately, in our setup, they all still get treated as
 very heavily
 weighted spam, so they never make it to users.
 
 Rob
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 6:17 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Headers showing up in the body on 3.05.10
 
 Ever since I went to 3.05.10 (now on 3.05.11) I've been receiving
 hundreds of complaints of spam making it to my users.
 After inspection, Declude is subject line marking the
 messages but it's
 moving the SMTP headers to the body of the email. This results in
 user's Outlook rules not firing on the subject line keywords.
 
 Here's an example of the ACTUAL MESSAGE BODY.
 
 Anyone else seeing this?
 
 -0-
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 6:06 AM
 To: Smith, Mark E.
 Subject: Re: Hello.
 
 You've seen it on 60 Minutes and read the BBC News report
 -- now find
 out just what everyone is talking about.
 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [WARNING-SPAM]:[333]:
 X-RBL-Warning: CATCHALLMAILS:
 X-RBL-Warning: FIVETEN-SPAM:
 225.72.226.221.blackholes.five-ten-sg.com.
 X-RBL-Warning: NOABUSE: Not supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-RBL

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DecludeProc crashing still

2005-10-25 Thread Mark Smith
If I dump the files in the proc\review folder back into the proc folder they
process ok.

I've given up and went back to 2.06.x
Immediately I'm processing 3-4 times faster with less CPU time and no
crashing.

Can't continue to run 3.0 anymore so I'll wait until the bugs are worked
out





 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
 T (Lists)
 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 8:11 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DecludeProc crashing still

 Nothing in my logs.

 When these events occur, you need to do the following:
 Check for DrWatson logs.
 Check for files in the proc\review directory Check the logs
 for that time period.

 What do the above 3 indicate?

 John T
 eServices For You


  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
  Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:45 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] DecludeProc crashing still
 
  I'm not 100% sure if people aren't noticing Decludeproc crashing.
  The installer sets the service recovery to restart in 0 seconds.
 
  So, would a few of you mind checking your System event logs
 and look
  for Event ID 7031 and 26. I want to triple check that I'm
 the only one
  getting these.
 
  Here's what happens... ALL FOUR of my declude servers are
 seeing this.
  I've renamed virus.cfg to virus.bak, I've removed all
 external tests,
  removed the biggest body filter test.
  Still crashes. Every version of Declude Proc is crashing
 AND CPU time
  is always at 100% with DecludeProc usually at the top.
 
  Windows 2003 Server STD, Imail
  Dell PowerEdge 1650
  Dual Proc 1.4Ghz, 2GB RAM.
  VERSION 3.05.11
 
  THREADS 15
  WAITFORMAIL 2000
 
  =
  ===
  ===
 
  Event Type: Information
  Event Source:   Application Popup
  Event Category: None
  Event ID:   26
  Date:   10/25/2005
  Time:   2:24:40 PM
  User:   N/A
  Computer:   CTCMX02
  Description:
  Application popup: decludeproc.exe - Application Error : The
  instruction
 at
  0x7c8120d0 referenced memory at 0x018e. The memory
 could not
  be read.
 
  Click on OK to terminate the program
  Click on CANCEL to debug the program
 
  For more information, see Help and Support Center at
  http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
 
  =
  ===
  ===
 
 
 
  Event Type: Error
  Event Source:   Service Control Manager
  Event Category: None
  Event ID:   7031
  Date:   10/25/2005
  Time:   2:13:58 PM
  User:   N/A
  Computer:   CTCMX02
  Description:
  The Decludeproc service terminated unexpectedly.  It has
 done this 1
  time(s).  The following corrective action will be taken in 12
  milliseconds: Restart the service.
 
  For more information, see Help and Support Center at
  http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
 
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] Headers showing up in the body on 3.05.10

2005-10-24 Thread Mark Smith
Ever since I went to 3.05.10 (now on 3.05.11) I've been receiving hundreds
of complaints of spam making it to my users.
After inspection, Declude is subject line marking the messages but it's
moving the SMTP headers to the body of the email. This results in user's
Outlook rules not firing on the subject line keywords.

Here's an example of the ACTUAL MESSAGE BODY.

Anyone else seeing this?

-0-


-Original Message-
From: Jon Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 6:06 AM
To: Smith, Mark E.
Subject: Re: Hello.

You've seen it on 60 Minutes and read the BBC News report -- now find out
just what everyone is talking about.
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WARNING-SPAM]:[333]:
X-RBL-Warning: CATCHALLMAILS:
X-RBL-Warning: FIVETEN-SPAM: 225.72.226.221.blackholes.five-ten-sg.com.
X-RBL-Warning: NOABUSE: Not supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-RBL-Warning: SORBS-DUL: Dynamic IP Addresses See:
http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?221.226.72.225;
X-RBL-Warning: IPNOTINMX:
X-RBL-Warning: NOLEGITCONTENT: No content unique to legitimate E-mail
detected.
X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 221.226.72.225
with no reverse DNS entry.
X-RBL-Warning: MS-SNAKEOIL: Message failed MS-SNAKEOIL: 52.
X-RBL-Warning: SPAMCHK: Message failed SPAMCHK: 3.
X-RBL-Warning: SPAMDOMAINS: Spamdomain '@yahoo.' found: Address of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sent from invalid [No Reverse DNS].
X-RBL-Warning: FALSE-YAHOO: Message failed FALSE-YAHOO test (line 2, weight
30)
X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT120349CP: Total weight between 120 and 349.
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [221.226.72.225]
X-Declude-Spoolname: Ddba001ae99e2.smd
X-Note:
X-Note: ==
X-Note: Spam Score: 333 [SUBJECT STRING ON 120-349  DELETED ON 350+]
X-Note: Scan Time: 09:03:36 on 24 Oct 2005
X-Note: Spool File: Ddba001ae99e2.smd
X-Note: Server Name: netrends.com
X-Note: SMTP Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Note: Reverse DNS  IP: [No Reverse DNS] [221.226.72.225]
X-Note: Organization: popmail.netrends.com
X-Note: Recipient(s): [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Note: Country Chain: CHINA-destination
X-Note: Tests Failed: CATCHALLMAILS [0], FIVETEN-SPAM [30], NOABUSE [10],
SORBS-DUL [50], IPNOTINMX [0], NOLEGITCONTENT [0], REVDNS [40], MS-SNAKEOIL
[150], SPAMCHK [3], SPAMDOMAINS [20], FALSE-YAHOO [30], WEIGHT120349 [120],
WEIGHT120349CP [120]
X-Note: In or Out: outgoing
X-Note: ==
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned  filtered
X-Note: filter [3.0.5.10] for SPAM  virus.
X-Note: ==
X-Note:

# Suppress your appetite and feel full and satisfied all day long # Increase
your energy levels # Lose excess weight # Increase your metabolism # Burn
body fat # Burn calories # Attack obesity And more..

http://coolhoodia.com/

# Suitable for vegetarians and vegans
# MAINTAIN your weight loss
# Make losing weight a sure guarantee
# Look your best during the summer months

http://coolhoodia.com/

Regards,
Dr. Jon Addison




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[Declude.JunkMail] Headers showing up in the body on 3.05.10

2005-10-24 Thread Mark Smith
Ever since I went to 3.05.10 (on Friday) I've been receiving hundreds of
complaints of spam making it to my users.
After inspection, Declude is subject line marking the messages but it's
moving the SMTP headers to the body of the email. This results in user's
Outlook rules not firing on the subject line keywords.

Here's an example of the ACTUAL MESSAGE BODY.

Anyone else seeing this?


-0-


-Original Message-
From: Jon Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 6:06 AM
To: Smith, Mark E.
Subject: Re: Hello.

You've seen it on 60 Minutes and read the BBC News report -- now find out
just what everyone is talking about.
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WARNING-SPAM]:[333]:
X-RBL-Warning: CATCHALLMAILS:
X-RBL-Warning: FIVETEN-SPAM: 225.72.226.221.blackholes.five-ten-sg.com.
X-RBL-Warning: NOABUSE: Not supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-RBL-Warning: SORBS-DUL: Dynamic IP Addresses See:
http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?221.226.72.225;
X-RBL-Warning: IPNOTINMX:
X-RBL-Warning: NOLEGITCONTENT: No content unique to legitimate E-mail
detected.
X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 221.226.72.225
with no reverse DNS entry.
X-RBL-Warning: MS-SNAKEOIL: Message failed MS-SNAKEOIL: 52.
X-RBL-Warning: SPAMCHK: Message failed SPAMCHK: 3.
X-RBL-Warning: SPAMDOMAINS: Spamdomain '@yahoo.' found: Address of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sent from invalid [No Reverse DNS].
X-RBL-Warning: FALSE-YAHOO: Message failed FALSE-YAHOO test (line 2, weight
30)
X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT120349CP: Total weight between 120 and 349.
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [221.226.72.225]
X-Declude-Spoolname: Ddba001ae99e2.smd
X-Note:
X-Note: ==
X-Note: Spam Score: 333 [SUBJECT STRING ON 120-349  DELETED ON 350+]
X-Note: Scan Time: 09:03:36 on 24 Oct 2005
X-Note: Spool File: Ddba001ae99e2.smd
X-Note: Server Name: netrends.com
X-Note: SMTP Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Note: Reverse DNS  IP: [No Reverse DNS] [221.226.72.225]
X-Note: Organization: popmail.netrends.com
X-Note: Recipient(s): [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Note: Country Chain: CHINA-destination
X-Note: Tests Failed: CATCHALLMAILS [0], FIVETEN-SPAM [30], NOABUSE [10],
SORBS-DUL [50], IPNOTINMX [0], NOLEGITCONTENT [0], REVDNS [40], MS-SNAKEOIL
[150], SPAMCHK [3], SPAMDOMAINS [20], FALSE-YAHOO [30], WEIGHT120349 [120],
WEIGHT120349CP [120]
X-Note: In or Out: outgoing
X-Note: ==
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned  filtered
X-Note: filter [3.0.5.10] for SPAM  virus.
X-Note: ==
X-Note:

# Suppress your appetite and feel full and satisfied all day long # Increase
your energy levels # Lose excess weight # Increase your metabolism # Burn
body fat # Burn calories # Attack obesity And more..

http://coolhoodia.com/

# Suitable for vegetarians and vegans
# MAINTAIN your weight loss
# Make losing weight a sure guarantee
# Look your best during the summer months

http://coolhoodia.com/

Regards,
Dr. Jon Addison




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc getting caught in Data Execution Prevention

2005-10-21 Thread Mark Smith



Extended period of run.
Happened on all three of my servers. AND they're all 
crashing the decludeproc service about once an hour.

I've got dual proc 1.5Ghz servers with 2GB ram, one AV 
FPROT scanner and I'm down to 10 threads.
I think I'm going back to 2.9 which was bulletproof for 
me.



  
  
  From: Mike Nice [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 1:19 AMTo: Mark 
  SmithSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc getting caught in 
  Data Execution Prevention
  
  Did the DEP alert come up immediately or after an 
  extended run period? If after an extended run period, I'd say that 
  there is a buffer overflow in Declude.
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Mark 
Smith 
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 

Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 4:40 
PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc 
getting caught in Data Execution Prevention

Has anyone seen this before?



[Declude.JunkMail] Somewhat OT: SMTP message size with Gateway config

2005-10-21 Thread Mark Smith



I 
think this has been covered before but does anyone have any ideas on how to 
restrict message size with Gateway only configs?
I'm 
trying to prevent the 20mb message attachments from bogging down the 
system.

Using 
IMAIL


[Declude.JunkMail] Declude as a service and global.cfg

2005-10-21 Thread Mark Smith
Now that the declude engine runs as a service, do you need to restart the
decludeproc service when making changes to global.cfg?


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc getting caught in Data Execution Prevention

2005-10-20 Thread Mark Smith
3.0.5.9
Just got this pre-release yesterday because of another issue where
decludeproc keeps crashing on all 3 of my servers.

The guys at Declude have been helping.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:23 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc getting caught in
 Data Execution Prevention

 Mark,

 Which version of decludeproc is this - cause 3.0.5.7 has not
 tripped it on my 2K3 server.

 Darrell


 --
 --
 Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for
 Declude And Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring,
 SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.


 Mark Smith writes:

  Has anyone seen this before?
 


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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Windows Telnet mail syste

2005-10-11 Thread Mark Smith
Sorry for the OT post but I'm looking for a telnet Windows PINE mail type
client.

We have a number of users who need to access email via a 2400baud SAT phone.
So we're looking to put up a PINE mail windows based solution where the
users would telnet in to read email, and the PINE server would connect to
the email server via IMAP.

Any ideas on this one?

Thx


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[Declude.JunkMail] 3.05.5 TempLog/Concatanate Log issues

2005-10-10 Thread Mark Smith



Any 
word from Declude on the issue in 3.05.5 that fills up the /templogs 
folder?

To 
recap, if Concatenate logs is turned on AND the decludeproc service crashes, 
declude "forgets" about the temp. logs. (Concatenate Log Threshold is reset to 
0).
This 
results in the /templog eventually growing and, when the folder reaches 10,000+ 
messages slows down declude. The problem snowballs until the server 
crashes.




RE: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL Now blocking Port 25

2005-09-29 Thread Mark Smith
As a web hosting company, we put an SMTP server listening on a different TCP
port.
We instruct users to modify their SMTP settings in their mail client to use
this port.

The server listens on this port but relays on 25.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick Samarelli
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 2:20 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL Now blocking Port 25

Has anyone else been told AOL is now enfosing this policy and how do we get
around it.

a.. 554 IPT:OA
http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554iptoa.html
EXPLANATION:

The message you received is generated from AOL when sending mail through a
third party program and connecting through the default port 25.

America Online Inc. will no longer accept outgoing connections on port 25
through third party mail programs.

SOLUTION:

If you are trying to access your America Online e-mail please visit Keyword:

Open Mail Access

Send third party e-mail through port 587. This port requires you to
authenticate and may require a change to your email client settings. Note,
the server you are connecting to must support this configuration. If you are
trying to get your AOL e-mail visit Keyword Open Mail Access, all others
contact your server administrator for further support on this configuration.

For more information visit the port 25 FAQ.


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[Declude.JunkMail] Any fix released for the corrupt message character issues in 3.0.5?

2005-09-29 Thread Mark Smith
My servers are constantly crashing because of this bug!



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[Declude.JunkMail] Another 3.0.5 bug...

2005-09-29 Thread Mark Smith
Seem to have found another bug (reported this to David yesterday but we
couldn't reproduce)

*IF* you have:

CONCATENATELOGS ON

And decludeproc crashes (in my case because the bad character messages that
get dumped to the review folder) it looks like Decludeproc loses track of
the single message logs in \spool\proc\work\templogs

Note I'm not saving logs -- the folder fills up with .LOG and .DONE files

The result is that the folder keeps growing with temp logs. When the folder
approaches the high volume (20,000 -- Mine was at 65,000 before I found the
problem) DecludeProc has a hard time writing logs to the folder. System
slows down, queues build up...

Darrel -- hint -- monitor the \templogs and \proc\work folder too. :)



-Original Message-
From: Mark Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 2:40 PM
To: 'Declude.JunkMail@declude.com'
Subject: Any fix released for the corrupt message character issues in 3.0.5?

My servers are constantly crashing because of this bug!



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Any fix released for the corrupt message character issues in 3.0.5?

2005-09-29 Thread Mark Smith
Just tested it here and it's working.
I even dumped my whole /review folder into the /proc folder and it processed
them fine. That would crash at will in the past.

Any word on the log file issue that I reported?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Premuda
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 9:48 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Any fix released for the corrupt message
character issues in 3.0.5?

-- Original Message --
From: John T \(Lists\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Date:  Thu, 29 Sep 2005 15:05:10 -0700

Actually, looks they have official released 3.0.5.5 which fixed the
problem.


Hi, John.

Have you tested this? This was supposedly fixed in two prior beta releases,
and we both know that wasn't true.

Thanks!

Kim W. Premuda


--
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FastWave Internet Services
San Diego, CA

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL Now blocking Port 25

2005-09-29 Thread Mark Smith
Setup Windows IIS SMTP service to listen on port XX (something other than
25).
Both can run and won't conflict.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 4:23 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL Now blocking Port 25

Anybody out there know the Cisco PIX CLI syntax to do port forwarding on the
firewall?

I'm running Imail 8.15 and I'm stuck with port 25...

-Dave Doherty
 Skywaves, Inc.




- Original Message -
From: Kevin Bilbee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 3:48 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL Now blocking Port 25


 If you are on imail 8.2x you can setup the alternate port. Search for the
 thread on the how to. No additional software is needed to do port
 forwarding.


 Kevin Bilbee

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Smith
 Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 11:39 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL Now blocking Port 25


 As a web hosting company, we put an SMTP server listening on a
 different TCP
 port.
 We instruct users to modify their SMTP settings in their mail
 client to use
 this port.

 The server listens on this port but relays on 25.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Frederick Samarelli
 Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 2:20 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL Now blocking Port 25

 Has anyone else been told AOL is now enfosing this policy and how
 do we get
 around it.

 a.. 554 IPT:OA
 http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554iptoa.html
 EXPLANATION:

 The message you received is generated from AOL when sending mail through
 a
 third party program and connecting through the default port 25.

 America Online Inc. will no longer accept outgoing connections on port 25
 through third party mail programs.

 SOLUTION:

 If you are trying to access your America Online e-mail please
 visit Keyword:

 Open Mail Access

 Send third party e-mail through port 587. This port requires you to
 authenticate and may require a change to your email client settings.
 Note,
 the server you are connecting to must support this configuration.
 If you are
 trying to get your AOL e-mail visit Keyword Open Mail Access, all others
 contact your server administrator for further support on this
 configuration.

 For more information visit the port 25 FAQ.


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[Declude.JunkMail] VERY Bad Luck with 3.0.5

2005-09-28 Thread Mark Smith
We upgraded 4 of our inbound gateway server to 3.0.5 yesterday.
This morning our HP Open View alarms on all 4 went off reporting the
following similar errors:

HELP!


From the Event Log:

Event Type: Error
Event Source:   Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID:   7031
Date:   9/28/2005
Time:   7:02:39 AM
User:   N/A
Computer:   CTCMX01
Description:
The Decludeproc service terminated unexpectedly.  It has done this 1
time(s).  The following corrective action will be taken in 1 milliseconds:
Restart the service.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Event Type: Information
Event Source:   Application Popup
Event Category: None
Event ID:   26
Date:   9/28/2005
Time:   5:29:44 AM
User:   N/A
Computer:   CTCMX01
Description:
Application popup: decludeproc.exe - Application Error : The instruction at
0x77387eac referenced memory at 0x56f9. The memory could not be
read.

Click on OK to terminate the program
Click on CANCEL to debug the program

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.


===


From the Application Log:

Event Type: Error
Event Source:   Application Error
Event Category: (100)
Event ID:   1000
Date:   9/28/2005
Time:   5:29:43 AM
User:   N/A
Computer:   CTCMX01
Description:
Faulting application decludeproc.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module
user32.dll, version 5.2.3790.1830, fault address 0x7eac.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74   Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 46 61 69 6c   ion Fail
0010: 75 72 65 20 20 64 65 63   ure  dec
0018: 6c 75 64 65 70 72 6f 63   ludeproc
0020: 2e 65 78 65 20 30 2e 30   .exe 0.0
0028: 2e 30 2e 30 20 69 6e 20   .0.0 in
0030: 75 73 65 72 33 32 2e 64   user32.d
0038: 6c 6c 20 35 2e 32 2e 33   ll 5.2.3
0040: 37 39 30 2e 31 38 33 30   790.1830
0048: 20 61 74 20 6f 66 66 73at offs
0050: 65 74 20 30 30 30 30 37   et 7
0058: 65 61 63  eac


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[Declude.JunkMail] What is the Reveiw folder for?

2005-09-28 Thread Mark Smith



There's a folder in the \proc folder called "review"

I've 
got messages building up in it but not sure what they 
are.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.05

2005-09-28 Thread Mark Smith
FYI
I'm seeing the same thing.
Dell PE 2650's 1.4Ghz Dual Proc 2GB RAM.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 4:48 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.05

Darell,

Yes I'm running a dual processor Xenon Dell server.

All the best,



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([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: 27 September 2005 17:43
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.05

David,

Are you running a dual proc box - you did not say exactly?  If you are let
me know and I can help you verify if you are having the same dual proc issue
I see.

Darrell

David Lewis-Waller writes:

 I didn't take part in the beta of v3 but upgraded yesterday from 1.8x.
 However, I do notice a considerable CPU usage penalty some 100% more
 usage than in the previous version and commonly long queues in \proc
 waiting to be serviced.

 I have also seen a couple of emails from users with dual procesor
 boxes having issues. Is this what others are seeing?

 David

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] What is the Reveiw folder for?

2005-09-28 Thread Mark Smith
There are 120+ messages in the folder on each server. :)

Should I put them back into the proc folder to try reprocessing?

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([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:05 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] What is the Reveiw folder for?

One of more of the messages in the review folder was the cause of the
decludeproc service to stop running.  You should submit those to Declude or
try and isolate which one of them is causing the issue.

Darrell
 
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Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG
Integration, and Log Parsers.



Mark Smith writes:

 There's a folder in the \proc folder called review

 I've got messages building up in it but not sure what they are.


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.05

2005-09-28 Thread Mark Smith
Exactly.
Also, I see the \templogs folder grow a fair amount too.
Last night it had 16,000 logs in it despite the fact my declude.cfg file had
these settings:

THREADS 25
CONCATENATELOGS ON
KEEPINDIVIDUALLOGS  OFF
ADJUSTFORLOAD   ON



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:08 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.05

Mark,

I just posted about what to look for if you see the same issue.  To recap
with one addition:  Make sure you bump your threads up to 25 or so.  Watch
the proc directory, decludeproc.exe in task manager, and the logs.  Do you
see the logs just stop and the decludeproc.exe at zero % cpu for a period of
time even through there are messages in the proc directory?

Darrell

Mark Smith writes:

 FYI
 I'm seeing the same thing.
 Dell PE 2650's 1.4Ghz Dual Proc 2GB RAM.

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 Lewis-Waller
 Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 4:48 AM
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 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.05

 Darell,

 Yes I'm running a dual processor Xenon Dell server.

 All the best,



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 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Sent: 27 September 2005 17:43
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 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.05

 David,

 Are you running a dual proc box - you did not say exactly?  If you are
 let me know and I can help you verify if you are having the same dual
 proc issue I see.

 Darrell

 David Lewis-Waller writes:

 I didn't take part in the beta of v3 but upgraded yesterday from 1.8x.
 However, I do notice a considerable CPU usage penalty some 100% more
 usage than in the previous version and commonly long queues in \proc
 waiting to be serviced.

 I have also seen a couple of emails from users with dual procesor
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RE: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Declude queues backing up

2004-12-14 Thread Mark Smith
Charles,
We use this on our inbound servers and it's been wonderful.

Mark 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Frolick
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 4:29 PM
To: DLAnalyzer Support
Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail/Declude queues backing up

Hello DLAnalyzer,

Tuesday, December 14, 2004, 10:01:47 AM, you wrote:

DS Because of this issue I wrote a Windows service that not only 
DS monitors the imail queue it also monitors the declude overflow 
DS directory.  You can setup different types of alerts (size and growth 
DS percentage) to notify you or run an external script when things 
DS exceed your thresholds.  This has saved me many times.  It's always 
DS better to get an alert when the queue has 1000 Q*.smd files backed up
than 50K...

I'll take a look at it, that'll save me time from making my own.
Since mine hung over the weekend, I had over 250K messages between spool and
overflow before any one bothered to call me and say they weren't getting any
mail. I average around 300K+ per day and it had been down for over 24 hours
over a slow day fortunately.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Processing order Junkmail or Virus

2004-12-09 Thread Mark Smith
 
 Note - messages _returned to the queue with this switch ON will not be
scanned for a virus

Meaning messages that are returned from a JM hold action and not the declude
overflow right?

IOW Declude Virus will only scan the messages that aren't deleted by
Junkmail BUT if JM has a hold action, Declude virus won't scan them after
they're placed back into the queue?



On 9 Dec 2004 at 16:23, Mark E. Smith wrote:

 I know this has been asked before but which processes first Junkmail 
 or Virus? If Virus is first, is there a way to change this?
AVAFTERJM   ON

Note - messages _returned to the queue with this switch ON will not be
scanned for a virus

-Nick

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[Declude.JunkMail] DOW test and Spam on specific days

2004-10-19 Thread Mark Smith
Assuming we wanted to setup a Sat-Sun DOW test with a weight of 2 for the
message hitting on the weekend, I guess we would use:

DOW dow 6   7   2   0

Correct?

Having said that, does anyone have any metrics on what days more spam comes
in?


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[Declude.JunkMail] Tests that aren't in the manual...

2004-10-18 Thread Mark Smith
I'll be the first to admit that I don't keep up on the reading of this list
so I'm sure this has been discussed before.
Additionally, I did some searching on these topics but the Mail Archive
system is spitting back too many results to be effective these days.
So that brings me to my point...
The new Delude Manual is a great step in documenting this great program,
however there are a number of tests that aren't documented.
Can someone please explain the following tests, how they're configured, how
they work, etc?


HEURheuristics
SPFPASS spf
SPFFAIL spf
IPNOTINMX   ipnotinmx
NOLEGITCONTENT  nolegitcontent
MAILFROMenvfrom
CMDSPACEcmdspace
REVDNS  revdnsexists
COMMENTScomments
SUBJECTSPACES   subjectspaces

Thanks!

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RE: [OT] RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 6.3 Acting as a gateway for domains on other servers

2004-10-18 Thread Mark Smith
IPSwitch says that Small Business Server is ok for this purpose.

Mark

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 Subject: Re: [OT] RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 6.3 Acting as a
 gateway for domains on other servers

 Sandy-

 Do you know what Ipswitch's position is on licensing the
 gateway server?  It looks like the small business version is
 limited to five domains, but is that domains with mailboxes
 only? Will the SB version do OK with several hundred domains
 when acting only as a gateway? Or do we need to pay the full
 price for the pro version all over again to set up a gateway?

 -d




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 To: Mike Wiegers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 3:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [OT] RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 6.3 Acting as a
 gateway for domains on other servers


  I  have  setup  the  gateway in my hosts file and the MX
 records for
  that  gateway  is  pointing to my declude server. It looks
 like what
  you  are  saying  is my server will try to process every
 non-user to
  the gateway machine, correct??
 
  Yes.
 
  Does  this script create registry keys for the gateway
 users, or how
  does this work?
 
  It  creates  and updates IMail aliases for a remote
 userbase retrieved
  over LDAP. You just schedule it to run every 5-10 minutes.
 
  --Sandy
 
 
  
  Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
  Broadleaf Systems, a division of
  Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  SpamAssassin plugs into Declude!
 
 
 http://www.mailmage.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/r
  elease/
 
  Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes
 into IMail
  Aliases!
 
 
 http://www.mailmage.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/d
  ownload/release/
 
 
 http://www.mailmage.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2aliases/downl
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[Declude.JunkMail] Is there a default action?

2004-10-07 Thread Mark Smith
What is the default action in Junkmail?

Is there a way to defaine a default action?
For example, all but 3 of my tests use the action WARN but I specify 50
tests with the action WARN.
Rather than 'syncing' all of these tests in GLOBAL and DEFAULT it would be
easier to just omit and use the 'default action' of WARN and then specify
the other 3.

Any way to do this?

Mark


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Deccon

2004-10-05 Thread Mark Smith
You can if you're server's running W2003.
Use the /console switch in the WTS client.

Mark


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 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Deccon

 No. Not through terminal services. Only through things like
 VNC or PCA.

 John Tolmachoff
 Engineer/Consultant/Owner
 eServices For You

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  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Deccon
 
  I termserve into the machine.  Is there any way I can view
 the output?
 
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   Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 8:14 PM
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   Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Deccon
  
  
   I have added CONSOLE ON to my global.cfg and virus.cfg and am not
 getting
   any output to the console screen?  Will it automatically
 start?  Do
   I
   need
   to run it manually?  I see it running in my task list but no
   visible output.  What am I doing wrong?
  
   It will automatically start when the next E-mail comes in, if you
   have
 the
   \IMail\Deccon.exe file in place.
  
   Note that it appears on the local console window, which
 means that
   you
 may
   or may not see it remotely (if you connect from another
 computer),
   depending on what software you use.  If that is the case,
 you'll see
   deccon.exe in the Task Manager to verify that it is running.
  
  
   -Scott
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[Declude.JunkMail] %TESTDOMAIN% Variable not working

2004-09-23 Thread Mark Smith
Anyone else having problems with the %TESTDOMAIN% not working?
When I use it in my X-NOTE headers it spits out the string to launch Message
Sniffer.

X-Note: Zone Used for DNS Based Tests: e:\IMail\Sniffer\d{message sniffer
exe name}.exe {key placed here}
X-Note: filter [1.79i4] for SPAM  virus.


My Global.CFG is:

X-Note: In or Out: %INOROUT%
X-Note: Zone Used for DNS Based Tests: %TESTDOMAIN%


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[Declude.JunkMail] Online FTP site with Declude Files...

2004-09-20 Thread Mark Smith
I believe that it was Kami who had his \declude folder exposed via FTP so
you could pull his tests.

Anyone remember the URL and is this still online?

Thanks!

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Online FTP site with Declude Files...

2004-09-20 Thread Mark Smith
Ok... So what's Kami's domain?

You can email me privately.

Thanks!

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 ftp.xyz.com/imail where xyz.com is Kami's domain

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  I believe that it was Kami who had his \declude folder
 exposed via FTP so
  you could pull his tests.
 
  Anyone remember the URL and is this still online?
 
  Thanks!
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] Subject Action string

2004-06-20 Thread Mark Smith
Quick question...
What's the string in the global.cfg to change the string stamped in the
subject line action?

I need to change it from the standard SPAM: string to something else.

...checked mail-archive and the manual but it's no in there.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Action string

2004-06-20 Thread Mark Smith
Forgive me because I haven't been on the list for some time...

The Action File? Are the action definitions now being configured in
individual files?

Mark

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 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Action string


  Quick question...
  What's the string in the global.cfg to change the string
  stamped in the subject line action?
 
  I need to change it from the standard SPAM: string to
 something else.
 
  ...checked mail-archive and the manual but it's no in there.

 Search in the action file (not the global.cfg file) for the
 SUBJECT action
 and replace the following SPAM: with whatever you want.

 Markus


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Action string

2004-06-20 Thread Mark Smith
Gotcha... I knew that part,.. Just was looking where to put the string
definition.
By default it's just SPAM:
So I thought it went on its own line in the global.cfg and not tabed after
the SUBJECT action.

Is there a single line in the global.cfg to change the string for all
SUBJECT actions (without specifying the string)



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 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject Action string


  The Action File? Are the action definitions now being
  configured in individual files?

 There should be a file $default$.junkmail in your declude folder.

 In this file are defined all actions (for incomming messages)
 Search for the line containing

 WEIGHTxx  SUBJECT SPAM:


 The third parameter is the string that will be added to the
 subject line. Ya
 can replace it with whaterver you want.

 If you've purchased Junkmail Pro you can use also
 (independent) ACTION lines
 in the global.cfg file. This actions are used only for
 outgoing messages

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[Declude.JunkMail] More Imail. 8.1 trouble

2004-04-11 Thread Mark Smith
I've tried everything but I can't get the new Open LDAP service to start.
I'm NOT running AD or any other LDAP services on this server.
I've changed the port and the damn thing just hangs. Nothing in the Event
logs.

Also my Imail system admin program now has all of the First and Last name
fields grayed out.

Can I revert back to 8.05?


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] More Imail. 8.1 trouble

2004-04-11 Thread Mark Smith
Well,
Had to revert back to 8.05, rebuild the LDAP database and then re-upgrade.
Odd.

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 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] More Imail. 8.1 trouble

 I've tried everything but I can't get the new Open LDAP
 service to start.
 I'm NOT running AD or any other LDAP services on this server.
 I've changed the port and the damn thing just hangs. Nothing
 in the Event logs.

 Also my Imail system admin program now has all of the First
 and Last name fields grayed out.

 Can I revert back to 8.05?


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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Email attack could kill servers

2004-04-06 Thread Mark Smith
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns4858


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail Queue manager and gateway

2004-03-11 Thread Mark Smith
So should I just disable the DNS Cache and skip list then?

Mark

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 You can not disable the Queue Manager. That is the delivery
 process, to where ever the message is to be delivered. DNS
 cache can be disabled if desired, irregardless of Imail
 configuration or use.

 John Tolmachoff
 Engineer/Consultant/Owner
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  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail Queue manager and gateway
 
  If I'm only using imail as a gateway for Exchange and only
 one domain
  is being forwarded to, wouldn't it make sense to disable
 the DNS cache
  and Queue manager.
  In the remote case the receiving Exchange server is put on the skip
  list that would mean that all email would stop.
 
  Right?
 
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg and license code

2004-03-10 Thread Mark Smith
I'm in the process of building a 4 server inbound MX gateway system for our
Exchange 2003 environment.
Imail/Declude will run on 4 even priority MX relayers and will act as edge
virus and spam detection.

Our organization receives about 350,000-400,000 inbound messages a day so
we're estimating about 100,000 messages per server.

All of our config files, filters, whitelists, and blacklists are kept in a
SQL server. This allows us to provide a web front end for our admins.
Additionally it allows record level (single line in a text file) editing of
a filter.
The records are saved back to the SQL server and an export program extracts
everything from the SQL server and saves them as the text files that Declude
requires.
All of the files are then copied to each of the 4 MX relayers.

The only problem with this is that all 4 of these relayers will have its own
license code.

As a feature request, would it be possible to put the CODE line of the
global.cfg into its own file?
License.cfg or something?

Right now, I have to parse each global.cfg and write each servers file
uniquely and make sure there isn't a mixup.

Is there another way that we can do this with the current config?

Mark


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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: ADVISORY/America Online, EarthLink, Microsoft, and Yahoo! To Make Major Enforcement Announcement Concerning Important New Actions Taken in Fight Against Spam

2004-03-10 Thread Mark Smith
Wonder what this will be about?

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040309/95882_1.html


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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail Queue manager and gateway

2004-03-10 Thread Mark Smith
If I'm only using imail as a gateway for Exchange and only one domain is
being forwarded to, wouldn't it make sense to disable the DNS cache and
Queue manager.
In the remote case the receiving Exchange server is put on the skip list
that would mean that all email would stop.

Right?


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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail Versions

2004-03-06 Thread Mark Smith
I'm working on an Exchange 2003 roll out where I'll use Imail and Junkmail
as a spam filter/relay/edge antivirus scanner.
Imail will not host any domains and only act as a gateway relayer for the
domains that are hosted in the Exchange namespace.

I don't think that I'll need Imail Professional so the question is whether
or not I need Imail Express or Imail Small Business as the foundation to run
the gateway relayer.

Thanks.

Mark


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] WAY OT - Windows gone crazy

2004-03-02 Thread Mark Smith
Does it happen with all user accounts on the same machine?
If not, try deleting the profile and re-creating.

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 Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 2:16 PM
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 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] WAY OT - Windows gone crazy

 Hello everyone,

 I've been trying to solve this problem for the better part of
 a week and searching the internet has just not helped.

 I'm running a windows xp pro machine and the context menus
 for windows have become very terse.
 For example if I right-click on the Recycle Bin, I get this menu:
 Create Shortcut
 --
 Properties

 As you can see the normal Empty the recycle bin option is missing.

 This is a fairly consistent problem for all OS interaction,
 .inf files don't give you the option to install, My Computer
 doesn't list manage...

 If anyone has seen this or knows of a place that might have a
 solution, I'd really appreciate it.

 Thanks,
 -Jerod

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] TCP/UDP ports

2004-02-26 Thread Mark Smith
Incorrect 1024-65535 are the random TCP ACK ports.
Just do a netstat -an and you'll see TCP 0.0.0.0:{GT 5000) LISTENING

Also, only a state based firewall will allow the TCP back channel ports by
default.
An access list in a router will need to have GT 1024 explicitly told to pass
the back channel ports.

RE: DNS on port 53.
You only need TCP port 53 if you're doing zone transfers otherwise UDP 53
will be enough.

I guess my question is why you're blocking outbound from your email server?
Also, you said you were shutting them down. How were you doing this?


 ON A WINDOWS MACHINE THE OUTGOING PORTS ARE BETWEEN 1024 AND
 5000 BY DEFAULT.

 However, a firewall won't care about the outgoing ports when
 a connection is made to a server.

 For example, if you block all outgoing ports except port 80
 (to allow WWW connections from local computer to servers on
 the Internet), the client will use a port between 1024 and
 5000.  *But*, the firewall will still allow the connection to
 go through (since it is *to* port 80).

 Therefore, it is never necessary to tell a firewall about
 ports 1024 and 5000.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Acting as a gateway for domains on other servers

2004-02-21 Thread Mark Smith
Dan,
Or you can pay me to host your Junkmail/Virus scanning for your Exchange
server.
We have lots of customers we do that for. :)



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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
 Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 4:09 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Acting as a gateway for
 domains on other servers

 Hey, John, et.al.,
 I allocated some time to try again to set it up and test it,
 to take advantage of your kind offer, and 'lo and behold this
 time it worked!  Doh.
 Anyway for those who are interested here's my synopsis for
 using IMail to do spam filtering on external domains, i.e.
 domains not hosted by IMail.

 Here is the key KB article at Ipswitch...

 IMail - How to use IMail as SMTP Gateway for another e-mail
 server http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-19980116-DM01.htm

 I broke it down into the following steps:

 -
 1)  Add the IP Address of the IMail server on the Destination Server

 2)  Add the IP Address of the Destination Server on the IMail Server

 3)  Modify the HOSTS File

 4)  Change the MX Record
 -

 If you read the KB article they actually describe the
 procedure in almost exactly the reverse of how I ordered it
 but I think mine is much better for avoiding any down time.
 In further detail, this is what I had to do to get everything working.

 -
 1)  Add the IP Address of the IMail server on the Destination Server

 The Destination Server is the server that the MX record would
 normally be pointing to if you weren't going to intercept the
 e-mail and scan for spam.

 In my case I was using a Microsoft Exchange Server, so I got
 on the Destination Server locally and ran Exchange System
 Manager.  I then navigated to Servers - Server Name -
 Protocols - SMTP and selected the item Default SMTP Virtual
 Server.  Right-click, choose Properties, select the Access
 tab, click the Relay button.  Make sure the Only The List
 Below radio button is selected and then click Add and then
 type in the IP address of your IMail server.
 -

 -
 2)  Add the IP Address of the Destination Server on the IMail Server

 We are running IMail 6.06.  I ran IMail Administrator and
 navigated down one level and selected the localhost branch.
  I clicked on the SMTP Security tab and verified the Relay
 mail for underneath Mail Relay Options was selected.  I
 clicked on the Addresses button and clicked the Add button.
 I then entered the IP address of the Destination Server and
 clicked OK.

 Note: Once you are done you have to stop and start the SMTP
 server for the change to put into play by the IMail Server.
 -

 -
 3)  Modify the HOSTS file with Destination Server IP address
 and Domain Name

 We are running IMail 6.06 on a Windows 2000 server.  I went
 to this directory, C:\WINNT\system32\drivers\etc, and located
 the file called hosts (no file extension).  I open the
 hosts file with notepad and added a line with the format...

 Destination Server IP Address tab Domain Name
 -

 -
 4)  Change the MX Record

 On the DNS hosting server the MX record which currently
 points to the IP Address of the Destination Server to the IP
 Address of the IMail Server.
 Once the DNS propogates Internet-wide you should be all set.
 -

 At this point I sent a test message from my Hotmail account
 to a user on the test domain.  In very short order the
 message was received at the Destination Server.  To verify
 that it actually routed through the IMail server I viewed the
 whole message source and looked for the appropriate hops and
 there they were.

 Since Declude sees e-mail routed through IMail this way as
 outgoing mail, to actually start filtering spam you have to
 use Declude's domain-specific configuration by creating a
 directory called domain.com underneath your declude
 directory and then creating a $default$.junkmail file in the
 domain.com directory.

 So that's how I got IMail to act as a gateway for domains on
 other servers.

 Take Care,
 Dan Geiser
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 - Original Message -
 From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 4:37 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Acting as a gateway for
 domains on other servers


 If it is not urgent, contact me off list and I can help. May
 take me some
 time to get back to you on it.

 John Tolmachoff
 Engineer/Consultant/Owner
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
  Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:42 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Acting as a gateway for
 domains on other
  servers
 
  Hello, All,
  I've never been able to get the Store and Forward
 capability of IMail to
  work so I could relay mail and scan external domains.  Is
 there anyone who
  has this setup who would be willing to lend me a hand?
 
  TIA,
  Dan Geiser
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   I know this works for 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail v1.78 (beta) released

2004-02-20 Thread Mark Smith
Scott,
Are the additions in the 1.77i release for SKIPIFWEIGHT and MAXWEIGHT
included in 1.78 beta?
Just want to make sure I don't break my Gibberish tests. :)

Thanks!

Mark


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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.
 Scott Perry
 Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 2:51 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail v1.78 (beta) released

 We have just released Declude JunkMail v1.78 (beta).  See
 http://www.declude.com/junkmail/manual.htm .  Notable changes
 since the last beta include:

  o JM FIX IPBYPASS limit increased from 20 to 100 entries.
  o JM FIX fromfile test type will now stop
 processing at first match.
  o JM FIX BADHEADERS test will no longer fail if To:
 not present but Bcc: is.
  o JM FIX Tests with DUHL in the name will now be
 skipped after first hop..
  o JM FIX HTML code removal will now work with CRLFs
 in HTML tags.
  o JM FIX Fixes an issue with recipients in E-mails
 sent from IMail
 v8 web messaging.
  o JM FIX LOGLEVEL LOW will now have 1 line with
 tests that fail (HELOBOGUS=WARN SPAMCOP=DELETE, etc.).
 LOGLEVEL HIGH will have the old one line per test, with the
 warning message.
  o JM FIX MAILFROM test will now catch just username.
  o JM ADD DOMAINWHITELISTS ON option, to allow for
 per-domain whitelist files at
 \IMail\Declude\example.com\whitelist.txt.
  o JM ADD New tests dow and hour, to allow hour
 and day-of-week detection.  IE HOUR hour 9 16 0 0 for local
 9AM-4:59PM.  DOW dow 1 5 0 0 for Monday through Friday.
  o JM ADD Adds TESTSFAILED searching for filters (for
 tests that have already run).  For example, TESTSFAILED END
 CONTAINS SPAMCOP.
  o JM ADD New test spf added for SPF support.
  o JM ADD Filters can now have WHITELIST command to
 whitelist an E-mail (SUBJECT WHITELIST CONTAINS [Declude.JunkMail])
  o JM ADD Adds NOTENDSWITH option to filters (REVDNS
 0 NOTENDSWITH .aol.com).
  o JM ADD Adds CIDR option to filters (REMOTEIP 0
 CIDR 192.0.2.0/24).
  o JM ADD Adds CMDSPACE test to help detect spamware
 in SMTP commands.
  o JM ADD Now will decode encoded subjects (for use
 in filters).

 Other additions and fixes can be found in the release notes,
 at http://www.declude.com/relnotes.htm . Anyone with an
 up-to-date Service Agreement is entitled to free upgrades
 (see http://www.declude.com/agree.htm for information on the
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Acting as a gateway for domains on other servers

2004-02-20 Thread Mark Smith
Look on the Ipswitch site for using iMail as a Gateway.
There's an article on it.

HINT: Use the HOSTS file.

Mark



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 domains on other servers

 Hello, All,
 I've never been able to get the Store and Forward capability
 of IMail to work so I could relay mail and scan external
 domains.  Is there anyone who has this setup who would be
 willing to lend me a hand?

 TIA,
 Dan Geiser
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  I know this works for Declude virus but will this work for filter
  spam too?  I would suspect that it does but I didn't see it in the
  documentation.
 
  Will gateway (store-and-forward) domains get scanned?
 
  Yes. However, IMail treats those domains as outgoing E-mail, since
  they
 are
  not stored locally. Therefore, the outgoing actions (from the
  \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file) will be used. If you want to use
  different actions for the gateway domains, you can set up
 per-domain
  settings for
 the
  domain.
 
  -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Reports timing out?

2004-02-17 Thread Mark Smith
I've been running MS DNS since NT 4.0.
W2003's DNS is much better but I've NEVER had a problem with any MS DNS.

You're being told BIND is much better by a bunch of guys who drink Mountain
Dew until 4:30am, hang around the Com-Sci lab, grow long beards, ride those
sit-down/fold up bikes, wear Birkenstocks, play roll playing games, and have
names like Dr. Kilroy.

I know, I used to be one. :)





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 We've been running MS DNS for years with no problem...except
 when our upstream DNS started flaking out, at which point we
 switched to using Verizon's big honking (technical term) DNS servers.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] GIBBERISH 2.0.1, single file filter with END functionality.

2004-02-13 Thread Mark Smith
Matt,
Just going through some saved items and wanted to follow up on this.
Is 2.0.1 your latest version or is there a newer one?

Mark

-0-

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Matthew Bramble
 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:52 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] GIBBERISH 2.0.1, single file
 filter with END functionality.

 I've made some huge leaps forward recently in terms of the
 processing power required to run Declude with the custom
 filters that I have installed.  This was done by way of the
 SKIPIFWEIGHT functionality introduced in the latest beta, but
 also by way of re-ordering my filters in the Global.cfg file
 so that the easiest to process custom filters are run first
 in the hopes of avoiding the need to run more costly ones.

 This new version of GIBBERISH makes use of functionality
 introduced in the 1.77 beta, however the most recent interim
 release, 1.77i7, should be used in order to guarantee proper
 operation (initial versions would always end processing, and
 effectively disabled the filters).  The END functionality
 removes the need to have ANTI filters since the filter can be
 stopped before it gets to the main filter matches, and it
 also presents another opportunity to save on the processing
 power required to run such things.  This also makes use of
 the MAXWEIGHT functionality to limit the max score as well as
 end processing once a single hit has been scored.  Note that
 the filter will only log (at the LOW setting) and show WARN
 actions when the filter is tripped and an END was not
 hit...which is great!  No more looking at non-scoring custom
 filters due to counterbalances :D

 Please read through the file and follow these instructions if
 you already have GIBBERISH installed:

 1) Comment out the ANTI-GIBBERISH custom filter in your Global.cfg
 2) Change the score of the GIBBERISH filter to 0 in your
 Global.cfg.
 3) Change the scoring of the filter to match your system
 (it is scored by default for base 10 systems).  This can be done
  by changing the MAXWEIGHT and Main Filter lines to
 reflect the multiple of 10 that your system is based on.
 4) Change the SKIPIFWEIGHT score to reflect your delete
 weight, or whatever weight you would like for the filter to
  be skipped if the system has already reached it
 before processing the filter.

 The file can be downloaded from the following location:


 http://www.mailpure.com/software/decludefilters/gibberish/Gibb
 erish_v2-0-1.zip

 Please report any issues with the new filter format.  As soon
 as bugs stop being reported, I will move to convert the other
 dual file filters into single file alternatives which make
 use of the END functionality.
 Until the functionality goes into a full release, I'm going
 to continue to primarily provide the old style filters on my site.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] GIBBERISH 2.0.1, single file filter with END functionality.

2004-02-13 Thread Mark Smith



Matt,
Thanks for the response.
I did that but the newest file is just 
2.0.1
I guessed you might have posted at:
http://www.mailpure.com/software/decludefilters/gibberish/Gibberish_v2-1-0.txt

but that spit back a 404


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  MattSent: Friday, February 13, 2004 11:57 AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 
  GIBBERISH 2.0.1, single file filter with END 
  functionality.
  I shared 2.1.0 of that filter on this list along with some updates 
  for other filters as well. I don't meant to be flippant by suggesting 
  that you search the archives, because that's what I would probably do in order 
  to figure it out. A good string would probably be a search of the base 
  address "software/decludefilters".MattMark Smith 
  wrote:
  Matt,
Just going through some saved items and wanted to follow up on this.
Is 2.0.1 your latest version or is there a newer one?

Mark

-0-

  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Matthew Bramble
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] GIBBERISH 2.0.1, single file
filter with END functionality.

I've made some huge leaps forward recently in terms of the
processing power required to run Declude with the custom
filters that I have installed.  This was done by way of the
SKIPIFWEIGHT functionality introduced in the latest beta, but
also by way of re-ordering my filters in the Global.cfg file
so that the easiest to process custom filters are run first
in the hopes of avoiding the need to run more costly ones.

This new version of GIBBERISH makes use of functionality
introduced in the 1.77 beta, however the most recent interim
release, 1.77i7, should be used in order to guarantee proper
operation (initial versions would always end processing, and
effectively disabled the filters).  The END functionality
removes the need to have ANTI filters since the filter can be
stopped before it gets to the main filter matches, and it
also presents another opportunity to save on the processing
power required to run such things.  This also makes use of
the MAXWEIGHT functionality to limit the max score as well as
end processing once a single hit has been scored.  Note that
the filter will only log (at the LOW setting) and show WARN
actions when the filter is tripped and an END was not
hit...which is great!  No more looking at non-scoring custom
filters due to counterbalances :D

Please read through the file and follow these instructions if
you already have GIBBERISH installed:

1) Comment out the ANTI-GIBBERISH custom filter in your Global.cfg
2) Change the score of the GIBBERISH filter to 0 in your
Global.cfg.
3) Change the scoring of the filter to match your system
(it is scored by default for base 10 systems).  This can be done
 by changing the MAXWEIGHT and Main Filter lines to
reflect the multiple of 10 that your system is based on.
4) Change the SKIPIFWEIGHT score to reflect your delete
weight, or whatever weight you would like for the filter to
 be skipped if the system has already reached it
before processing the filter.

The file can be downloaded from the following location:


http://www.mailpure.com/software/decludefilters/gibberish/Gibb
erish_v2-0-1.zip

Please report any issues with the new filter format.  As soon
as bugs stop being reported, I will move to convert the other
dual file filters into single file alternatives which make
use of the END functionality.
Until the functionality goes into a full release, I'm going
to continue to primarily provide the old style filters on my site.

Matt

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[Declude.JunkMail] 1.77 beta

2004-02-12 Thread Mark Smith
Scott,
Sorry if this has been answered 1000 times but I haven't had
much time to read the group lately.

Is 1.77 beta stable (for a beta)?
I remember seeing something about some log file issues.


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[Declude.JunkMail] 1.77 beta

2004-02-08 Thread Mark Smith
Sorry if this has been answered 1000 times but I haven't had much time to
read the group lately.
Is 1.77 beta stable (for a beta)?
I remember seeing something about some log file issues.


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT? Best Plattform?

2004-02-04 Thread Mark Smith
2003.
It's MUCH more secure than 2000 because many services are not enabled by
default which is the case in 2000.



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 Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 12:24 PM
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 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT? Best Plattform?

 2000.

 The newer version is hardly mature, and it appears that just
 like XP made the 2000 core unstable, 2003 also repeats many
 of the same mistakes.  2003 is of course fancier, but the
 apps you are looking to use make little use of what the newer
 version might provide.

 Matt


 Hirthe, Alexander wrote:

 Hello,
 
 what is the better Plattform for Imail / Declude? Windows 2000 oder
 Windows 2003?
 Just Imail  Declude, Spamcheck, AVG, F-Prot.
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail - DecludeJunkmail/Virus Gateway

2004-01-30 Thread Mark Smith
Sorry Two drives in RAID 1 (Mirrored)

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
 Tolmachoff (Lists)
 Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 10:25 AM
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  Each of these servers are ONLY relayers.
  They're Dell Poweredge 1650's
  Dual Processor 1.2Ghz, 1GB RAM
  3x36GB drives in RAID 0 (with the 3rd as a hot-swap).

 How can you have 2 drives in a RAID 0 with a hot spare? If
 one drive fails, you lost the logical drive. Why would you
 even want to use RAID 0 of the OS?

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[Declude.JunkMail] Multiple inbound Junkmail Gateways for the same domain...

2004-01-26 Thread Mark Smith
I'm in the process of adding two more inbound MX relayers using
iMail/Junkmail.
When it's all done we'll have 4 inbound relayers (with equal preference
numbers) for a huge Exchange System with iMail/Junkmail doing the upstream
filtering.

Here's my problem -- how do I easially look through the log files on four
equal balanced servers?

If we bounce/delete a message, we're going to need to look through the log
files on four different servers in order to find out the right one.
My though is to write a log parsing program that will run on each server and
consolidate all 4 logs into a SQL server.
From there I can just search for the message and change the rules
accordingly.

Before I start on this project, has anyone already done something like this?

Mark Smith


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail Evaluation

2004-01-26 Thread Mark Smith
We gave up Brightmail and use Junkmail for an upstream filter on our inbound
edge relayers.

Mark E. Smith
Systems and Technology Manager
Associated Press Broadcast Technology
1825 K Street NW Suite 800
Washington, D.C. USA
Phone: +1-202-736-9657 (GMT -05:00)
Fax: +1-707-202-3957
http://www.enps.com
Support Board: http://support.enps.com



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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Spencer Salva
 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 7:01 PM
 To: Declude. JunkMail (E-mail)
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail Evaluation

 My company currently uses Declude JunkMail  AntiVirus and
 we're starting a new project that will require similar
 software.  I was wondering if anyone on here has used other
 email filtering software that you gave up in favor of
 Declude, and if so, why?

 Spencer Salva
 Systems Analyst
 Solimar Systems, Inc.
 tel: (619) 849-2800
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail - DecludeJunkmail/Virus Gateway

2004-01-26 Thread Mark Smith
Kris,
We have four inbound MX relayers for our Exchange 2003 system.
The inbound MX relayers run iMail/Junkmail and each have an equal preference
level in the MX records.

Each of these servers are ONLY relayers.
They're Dell Poweredge 1650's
Dual Processor 1.2Ghz, 1GB RAM
3x36GB drives in RAID 0 (with the 3rd as a hot-swap).

Logical partitions:
9GB C: (System OS)
7GB D: (Imail/Junkmail)
20GB E: (Junkmail Log Files using NTFS Mount point to
d:\Imail\Declude\Spamlogs)

Across all 4 relayers we process about 250,000-300,000 inbound messages a
day (including spam/viruses).
Works perfect for us.

Mark E. Smith
Systems and Technology Manager
Associated Press Broadcast Technology
1825 K Street NW Suite 800
Washington, D.C. USA
Phone: +1-202-736-9657 (GMT -05:00)
Fax: +1-707-202-3957
http://www.ap.org
http://www.enps.com
Support Board: http://support.enps.com




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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris McElroy
 Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 12:22 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail - DecludeJunkmail/Virus Gateway

 Sorry what I meant by example setups was the hard drive
 configuration and what type of hardware.  I should have
 explained myself a little more clearly.


 Kris



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
 Tolmachoff
 (Lists)
 Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 10:34 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail - DecludeJunkmail/Virus Gateway

  First off I would like to say thanks to you and thanks
 to the others
  on this list and the Imail list that put effort and time in
 to helping
  people.  If you don't mind me asking I am assuming that you do
  consulting for companies that run Imail at high volumes.
 Do you have
  any example setups of a typical Gateway (Imail/Declude)
 that sees high
  volume?

 Typical is a very obscure word. You can some what describe
 typical ISP or typical educational, but other than that, each
 configuration can be different based on the end users.
 Example, I operate/consult on 5 Imail/Declude servers. Each
 one is different. 2 are a major regional ISPs, another is a
 corporate server for a financial company, another is a
 coporate server for a real estate company, and one is a small
 ISP which includes a client that deals in electronic parts,
 hence gets a lot of e-mail from the far east.

 The one server that I consult on that is high volume is not a
 gateway, but the actual mail box server. I can not directly
 share their configuration, but if you read the archives on
 this list, you will see a lot of work that has gone into
 optimizing filters.

 Hopefully soon, I will have a site up and running for members
 to share filters and such.

 John Tolmachoff
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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Anyone using SSL for POP/SMTP/IMAP and experincing slowdowns?

2004-01-08 Thread Mark Smith
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/01/08/1849245mode=threadtid=126tid=
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003

2003-12-22 Thread Mark Smith
FWIW, We're running Windows 2003 server with imail gateways on 4 inbound MX
servers for MS Exchange 2003
We process about 300,000 messages per day.
No problems here.

Actually, we've been talking about moving the OS back to Windows XP
workstation.
Since we only use iMail as a gateway relayer, there's no need to run IIS.
There's no issue with more than 10 concurrent sessions so why waste the
Server license when we can just use a workstation license?

Mark Smith




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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
 Tolmachoff (Lists)
 Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 8:33 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003

 Here is a couple of quick stats from the responses:

 Of those using Windows Server 2003 at the time;

 0-5K messages per day 4
 5K-10K messages per day   2
 10K-20K messages per day  2
 20K-30K messages per day  1
 30K-50K messages per day  0
 50K-75K messages per day  1
 75K-100K messages per day 0
 100K or more per day  1

 Now, how can you see a pattern with those amounts of
 respondes with problems on W2K3 compared to W2K?

 John Tolmachoff
 Engineer/Consultant/Owner
 eServices For You


  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Omar K.
  Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 5:06 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003
 
  Statistically, a random 10% sample is sufficient on a lot of things.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Kevin Bilbee
  Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 2:50 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003
 
 
  Hey John they do samples in surveys of less that of your sample as
  compared to the number of Imail servers.
 
  If you consider the number of people that watch TV and the small
  sample of people that NEILSON users to rate a shows
 popularity. I bet
  you have a better sampling than they do.
 
 
  Kevin Bilbee
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John
   Tolmachoff
   (Lists)
   Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 4:29 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003
  
  
   No. I am saying that only 176 responses to the survey
 does not give
   a reliable survey result when there are clearly at least 10 times
   that
  many
   out there, if not way more.
  
   John Tolmachoff
   Engineer/Consultant/Owner
   eServices For You
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Holt
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 4:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003
   
John,
Are you saying that small servers are not reliable?? :))
   
Todd Holt
Xidix Technologies, Inc
Las Vegas, NV  USA
www.xidix.com
702.319.4349
   
   
   
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of John
 Tolmachoff (Lists)
 Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 3:05 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003

 Unfortunately, there were only 176 responses, mostly
 from small
 to
  mid
 size
 setups. Therefore, the results were not reliable.

 John Tolmachoff
 Engineer/Consultant/Owner
 eServices For You


  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Omar K.
  Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:15 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003
 
  Yeah, whatever happened to that, I poured my heart
 out there
  :)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  DLAnalyzer
  Support
  Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:52 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows Server 2003
 
 
  John,
 
  I remember you did a survey awhile back on problems with
  Imail/etc.
 Were
  the results of that ever posted?
 
  Darrell
   
  Check Out DLAnalyzer a comprehensive reporting tool for
  Declude Junkmail Logs - http://www.dlanalyzer.com
 
 
  John Tolmachoff (Lists) writes:
 
   For the majority, W2K3 is the way to go if you
 are able to.
Ipswitch
  does
   support running Imail on W2K3.
  
   There are some possible issues.
  
   1. Running MS DSN service on W2K3 WITH Imail
 Anti-Spam DNS
   tests
is a
   problem.
  
   2. Some issues have been reported on the Imail
 list

[Declude.JunkMail] Autowhitelist AND gateways

2003-12-15 Thread Mark Smith
How does (or doesn't it) AUTOWHITELIST work with a Gateway situation?
We use iMail/Junkmail simply as a spam solution to MSFT Exchange 2003.

My hunch is that it doesn't work because the users won't have a local login.
Then again, I could write an application to extract contacts from a given
users mailbox and insert them into the iMail contacts.
That would probably cause the gateway to stop functioning because the
mailbox would be on the iMail server.



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] A little CMA documentation for Outlook 2003 RFC non-compliance 2003 RFC non-compliance

2003-12-05 Thread Mark Smith
BTW,
I forwarded this issue to a colleague, Sue Moser of Slipstick Systems
http://www.slipstick.com and Windows magazine contributor.

Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.
 Scott Perry
 Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:19 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A little CMA documentation
 for Outlook 2003 RFC non-compliance 2003 RFC non-compliance


 I have a customer who was having trouble with his messages sent to
 users on servers that use spam filters not being delivered.
 I had him
 send a message to me so I could see what tests it fails.  As some of
 you may have already guessed, he's got a new pc with Outlook
 2003 and
 the messages fail the spam headers test.  I informed him that among
 mail server and/or spamfilter administrators this is a known issue.
 So, he calls MS.  MS says it's OEM software, call the
 vendor.  Dell says I'm full of it.
 
 So...
 
 Would someone with more thorough and better understanding than mine
 please send me something (with permission to quote or I'd just lift
 from
 archives) that I can send to this customer?  I'm looking for
 what it is
 that Outlook 2003 does wrong and what RFC it is not
 conforming to.  He
 wants to then show it to Dell and request an exchange for
 Office 2002.

 It's really a Microsoft issue (it's a bug -- er, new
 feature -- in Outlook 2003), but they may have a special
 arrangement with Dell.  Microsoft had a few complaints from
 people using Outlook that their machine name was leaked in
 the Message-ID header.  Instead of ignoring the complaint, or
 making the host name used in the Message-ID: header
 configurable, they chose to remove the Message-ID: header.

 Microsoft is technically RFC-compliant, *if* they understand
 the consequences of what they did.  In order words, it is
 only RFC-compliant if accept the fact that the E-mail sent
 from Outlook 2003 may be marked as spam.

 Microsoft's position, from what we understand, is that they
 expect all mailservers to whitelist outgoing E-mail from
 Outlook 2003 users, and add the Message-ID: header.

 -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] A little CMA documentation for Outlook 2003 RFC non-compliance 2003 RFC non-compliance

2003-12-05 Thread Mark Smith
I'm assuming that this only happens with Outlook 2003 used with a
non-Exchange (POP3/IMAP/SMTP mode)?

Here are two headers from Outlook 2003 installed by Office 2003 Pro
Microsoft Volume Licensing (not OEM)

From Outlook/MAPI via Exchange 2003

-0-

Received: from us-inboundmx.blank.com [61.220.41.95] by popmail.domain2.com
with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-8.03) id AFB28130208; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 05:36:34 -0500
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0
Content-class: urn:content-classes:message
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Subject: testing
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:36:34 -0500
Message-ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
Thread-Topic: testing
Thread-Index: AcO7G6c5ASWwh2hOTRWz0b/pUSbfKw==
From: Mark E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Note: Weight: 0 - This E-mail was scanned by NETrends Systems
(www.netrends.com) for spam.
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: Whitelisted
X-Spam-Prob: 0.169437
X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: U
X-UIDL: 341408898

-0-

From Outlook/POP3/SMTP via iMail SMTP

-0-

Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0
Received: from ussmtpin2.blank.com ([10.7.4.111]) by us-inboundmx.blank.com
with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0);
 Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:40:53 -0500
Received: from popmail.domain2.com [16.196.89.161] by ussmtpin2.blank.com
with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-8.03) id A0B38CD0118; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 05:40:51 -0500
Received: from msmithd800xp [162.83.21.69] by popmail.domain2.com with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-8.03) id A0AF8330208; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 05:40:47 -0500
From: Mark Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mark E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Testing from domain2
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:40:47 -0500
X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165
Thread-Index: AcO7HD5aazFkluigRS2DXlE/jJeQ9w==
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-RBL-Warning: SPAMHEADERS: This E-mail has headers consistent with spam
[420e].
X-RBL-Warning: MS-WHITE: Message failed MS-WHITE: 0.
X-RBL-Warning: TLD-TRUSTED-MAILFROM: Message failed TLD-TRUSTED-MAILFROM
test (27)
X-RBL-Warning: TLD-TRUSTED-REVDNS: Message failed TLD-TRUSTED-REVDNS test
(46)
X-Note: Weight: 3 - This E-mail was scanned by NETrends Systems
(www.netrends.com) for spam.
X-RBL-Warning: WHITELISTFILE: Message failed WHITELISTFILE test (100)
X-RBL-Warning: MS-WHITE: Message failed MS-WHITE: 0.
X-RBL-Warning: TLD-TRUSTED-HELO: Message failed TLD-TRUSTED-HELO test (27)
X-RBL-Warning: TLD-TRUSTED-MAILFROM: Message failed TLD-TRUSTED-MAILFROM
test (27)
X-RBL-Warning: TLD-TRUSTED-REVDNS: Message failed TLD-TRUSTED-REVDNS test
(37)
X-Note: Weight: -110 - This E-mail was scanned by NETrends Systems
(www.netrends.com) for viruses and spam.
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Dec 2003 10:40:53.0729 (UTC)
FILETIME=[42002510:01C3BB1C]

-0-





 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.
 Scott Perry
 Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:19 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A little CMA documentation
 for Outlook 2003 RFC non-compliance 2003 RFC non-compliance


 I have a customer who was having trouble with his messages sent to
 users on servers that use spam filters not being delivered.
 I had him
 send a message to me so I could see what tests it fails.  As some of
 you may have already guessed, he's got a new pc with Outlook
 2003 and
 the messages fail the spam headers test.  I informed him that among
 mail server and/or spamfilter administrators this is a known issue.
 So, he calls MS.  MS says it's OEM software, call the
 vendor.  Dell says I'm full of it.
 
 So...
 
 Would someone with more thorough and better understanding than mine
 please send me something (with permission to quote or I'd just lift
 from
 archives) that I can send to this customer?  I'm looking for
 what it is
 that Outlook 2003 does wrong and what RFC it is not
 conforming to.  He
 wants to then show it to Dell and request an exchange for
 Office 2002.

 It's really a Microsoft issue (it's a bug -- er, new
 feature -- in Outlook 2003), but they may have a special
 arrangement with Dell.  Microsoft had a few complaints from
 people using Outlook that their machine name was leaked in
 the Message-ID header.  Instead of ignoring the complaint, or
 making the host name used in the Message-ID: header
 configurable, they chose to remove the Message-ID: header.

 Microsoft is technically RFC-compliant, *if* they understand
 the consequences of what they did.  In order words, it is
 only RFC-compliant if accept the fact that the E-mail sent
 from Outlook 2003 may be marked as spam.

 Microsoft's position, from what we understand, is that they
 expect all mailservers to whitelist outgoing E-mail from
 Outlook 2003 users, and add the Message-ID: header.

 -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] sniffer

2003-12-02 Thread Mark Smith
Sniffer's well worth the $300.00 per year.
That breaks down to less than $1.00 per day.

It catches content that some RBLs don't catch.

Mark

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Keith Anderson
 Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:28 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] sniffer


 It's not worth paying the subscription fee, in my opinion.  I
 have a client that's paying for it, and it doesn't catch very
 much that isn't already caught somewhere else.

  I am considering Maps too. But it's $1500/yr. Anyone using them?



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EASYNET tests going away December 1

2003-12-01 Thread Mark Smith
FWIW, I run many more tests than this -- about 30 total plus the internal
Declude tests, External Sniffer, and Declude Virus.
Message load is about 150,000 messages per day on a dual 2.8 Ghz.
No performance hits noticed.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of paul
 Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:52 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] EASYNET tests going away December 1

 Andy,
 You have all of these tests running? What's the impact on
 the server for all of these? What's your mail load? I just
 love having to replace all these tests every month or so,
 don't we all? LOL! But I want to lessen the impact on our
 server as much as possible. What of these tests do you
 recommend the most?

 Paul


 
  Hi,
 
  Yesterday's results of my EasyNet replacement candidates:
 
  TEST # FAILED   Percentage
 
  AHBLDOMAINS710.95%
  AHBLPROXIES...7359.82%
  AHBLSOURCES...3514.69% (reliable, so far)
 
  NJABLDUL..2743.66% (many duplicates with
  SORBS-DUL) NJABLPROXIES1,085...14.49%
  NJABLRELAYS...1181.58%
  NJABLSOURCES..2653.54% (reliable, so far)
 
  SORBS-DUL...2,664...35.58%
  SORBS-HTTP7379.84% (proxies)
  SORBS-MISC.801.07% (proxies)
  SORBS-SOCKS...873...11.66% (proxies)
  SORBS-SMTP..50.07%
  SORBS-ZOMBIE...300.40%
 
  A) Do NOT use SORBS-SPAM.  As they point out on their web
 site, it has
 been
  infested with the mail servers of most major providers by
 the simple
  fact that virus-infected customer systems have been sending
 arbitrary
  emails, implicating the mail sever of the provider.  I
 tested it for
  two days and kept lowering the weight until I realized that
 it was not
  at all helpful
 in
  trying to distinguish spam from legitimate mail.
 
  B) I have been holding and/or deleting ANYTHING proxy for
 many weeks
  now and so far never had any customer complaints about
 lost emails.
 
  Best Regards
  Andy Schmidt

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: FireWall VPN Opinion

2003-11-17 Thread Mark Smith
Go for Checkpoint's 25 user/IP option.
You can buy two Nokia IP350's on Ebay for $400.00 each.

Blows Sonicwall, Watchguard and anything else outtta' the water.



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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
 Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 3:49 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: FireWall VPN Opinion

 I need to setup a VPN between two offices with under 25
 computers one location and 5 at the other end. Both offices
 also need client remote VPN from windows XP

 What are your opinions on the

 SONICWALL and WATCHGUARD products

 Sonicwall SOHO 3 or Warchguard SOHO 6tc


 Kevin Bilbee



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[Declude.JunkMail] Character set/unicode testing?

2003-09-16 Thread Mark Smith
Is there any way to filter based on character set, code page, etc?
I'm getting swamped with tons of Cirilic spam lately and it's passing my
RBL's recently.

I can't filter by code word or phrase and the MAILFROM field is random.

Any thoughts?

Here's a sample

-0-

ETOpJa8Lj9twl9fIQ
(, .  ...) 
. .  , .59, (7-10 . ). 352,8
. . 1-  / ( ), 2 .,  ,
 ,  ,   , ,
   . 2 .
 1100$ . ,  : 200$ . . / ( ).
 : rcl506TD940837
TIGQEcqiUgIFpRrJ 
j)pjjyu+*7^V*m^r[yNfy^
%yj)fj)b b{.n+lzwZI[hfu%fvz
%yj)Srzjmj)Zb(

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Placing Weight in Header

2003-09-04 Thread Mark Smith
Title: Message



Duuuh.. Why didn't I think of that.
FWIW, 
if you just put Weight: %WEIGHT% in the header then you might be breaking 
RFC's.
There 
should be an X- before your "Weight"linewhich will denote a comment 
line.

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of GlobalWeb.net WebmasterSent: Thursday, 
  September 04, 2003 8:25 AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Placing 
  Weight in Header
  we 
  use , in our global.cfg file,
  
  XINHEADERWeight: %WEIGHT%
  
  so 
  you could out in yours:
  
  XINHEADERX-DECLDUE-WEIGHT:%WEIGHT%
  
  
  Sincerely,Randy ArmbrechtGlobal Web Solutions, 
  Inc.804-346-5300 ext. 1877-800-GLOBAL (4562) ext. 1http://globalweb.net 
  
  
  
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark 
SmithSent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 7:39 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Placing 
Weight in Header
Is there any way to place the total weight in the SMTP 
header?
Something like:

X-DECLUDE-WEIGHT: 
yyy


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude failing openrelay test

2003-09-04 Thread Mark Smith
Title: Message



I 
just have "Relay for Addresses"
I 
include my local Internal DMZ's subnet so I can relay off of various ASP 
scripts, etc.
All 
of my users must authenticate in order to relay.


  
  -Original Message-From: Keith Johnson 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith 
  JohnsonSent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 8:34 AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 
  failing openrelay test
  Mishi,
   I am running 8.02 
  and 7.15HF2with "Relay for Addresses" and Declude JM Pro 1.75i and I 
  just ran the test and produced perfect results on both machines. It only 
  reported 'Unknown User' and 'Not a local gateway', which is great. What 
  relay setting are you running and version of Imail? 
  
  Keith
  
-Original Message- From: Mishi Saravi 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 9/4/2003 7:20 AM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude failing openrelay 
test

I am using the test for open 
relay at http://www.abuse.net/cgi-bin/relaytest 
on a machine running imail with declude and it is reporting the machine as 
openrelay. However the same test will report as no relay on a machine 
running imail without declude. Has any one run into this situation? Is it 
because declude that the machine is reporting as open 
relay?

Many Thanks,

Mishi

attachment: winmail.dat

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SORBS-SPAM

2003-09-02 Thread Mark Smith
Cox cable I'll bet.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glen Harvy
 Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 6:12 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SORBS-SPAM
 
 
 Who's Cox?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
 Smart Business 
  Lists
  Sent: Tuesday, 2 September 2003 07:57
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SORBS-SPAM
  
  
  Careful on SORBS-SPAM - blocking some large providers - Cox for one.
  
  
  Terry Fritts
  
  
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OSRELAY

2003-09-02 Thread Mark Smith
No.
They're not coming back.
Read the mail archives.

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 James R. Skivers
 Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 12:25 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OSRELAY
 
 
 Does anybody know if *.osirusoft.com is back up yet? Anybody 
 have a solid alternative configuration to be used in the mean time?
 
 
 James R. Skivers
 Network Administrator
 Web One Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://astra1.com
 
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] Alligate

2003-08-28 Thread Mark Smith
Is anyone using Alligate http://www.alligate.com ?
I'm using message sniffer and was looking at adding alligate also.

I'd appreciate any feedback..

Mark

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OSRELAY question.

2003-08-27 Thread Mark Smith
I've seen it to.
Additionally http://relays.osirusoft.com isn't responding and emails are
being bounced.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Schick
 Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 8:14 PM
 To: Declude. JunkMail (E-mail)
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OSRELAY question.
 
 
 In going thru the held mail I am finding some emails with 
 this warning.
 
 
  X-RBL-Warning: OSRELAY: Please stop using relays.osirusoft.com
 
 This only shows up on a few emails but it causes the email to 
 fail the OSRELAY test - meaning more false positives.  Other 
 emails either do not have the warning or they show a normal 
 OSRELAY warming -
 
 X-RBL-Warning: OSRELAY: This E-mail came from XXX.27.65.23, a 
 potential spam source listed in OSRELAY.
 
 I searched the archives but did I miss an announcement that 
 we were suppose to quit using OSRELAY.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Chuck Schick
 Warp 8, Inc.
 303-421-5140
 www.warp8.com
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OSRELAY question.

2003-08-27 Thread Mark Smith
Anyone have any recommendations on what to replace:

#OSDUL  ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.3
5   0
#OSFORM ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.8
5   0
#OSLIST ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.7
5   0
#OSRELAYip4rrelays.osirusoft.com
127.0.0.2   5   0
#OSSMARTip4rrelays.osirusoft.com
127.0.0.5   5   0
#OSSOFT ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.6
5   0
#OSSRC  ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.4
5   0

With?
 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OSRELAY Replacement question.

2003-08-27 Thread Mark Smith
The fact that SPEWS is gone is not a bad thing!



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Matthew Bramble
 Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 1:11 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OSRELAY Replacement question.
 
 
 Let me also correct one thing.  I mentioned SPEWS as an 
 alternative to 
 Osirusoft, but that one also comes from their servers :)  In 
 otherwords, 
 don't use that either (as noted in Hank's recent message).
 
 Matt
 
 
 
 Andy Schmidt wrote:
 
 Here is the replacements that I'm using (marked up red) with the 
 results for the last few hours:
 
  
 
 
 
 Best Regards
 Andy Schmidt
 
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
 Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 09:44 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OSRELAY question.
 
 
 Anyone have any recommendations on what to replace:
 
 #OSDUL  ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.3
 5   0
 #OSFORM ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.8
 5   0
 #OSLIST ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.7
 5   0
 #OSRELAYip4rrelays.osirusoft.com
 127.0.0.2   5   0
 #OSSMARTip4rrelays.osirusoft.com
 127.0.0.5   5   0
 #OSSOFT ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.6
 5   0
 #OSSRC  ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com127.0.0.4
 5   0
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8 and antispam

2003-07-02 Thread Mark Smith
Just installed Imail 8 and was wondering what the consensus about the
default DNS blackslists are?

Are most junkmail/sniffer users leaving these enabled or disabling them?

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[Declude.JunkMail] iMail 8.0

2003-05-31 Thread Mark Smith
Are there any issues with Junkmail/Virus and iMail version 8.0?

We're planning on the upgrade next week and didn't want to break
anything. :)

Thanks!

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[Declude.JunkMail] Amazing!!

2003-03-25 Thread Mark Smith
If this isn't the easiest way to get valid email addresses for spammers!

-0-

 -Original Message-
 From: Hacking Emails 
 [mailto:ijnijnijnijnijnijnijnijnijnijnijnijnijnijnijnijnijnijn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 5:25 AM
To:
Subject: Just send the email address u want to hack. We'll send u the
password.


Want to HACK any ones EMAIL ?. Just send 2 emails to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .  In the first email write
your-email-address in the subject line.  Then immediately send the
second email writing the-persons-email-address-u want-to-hack in the
subject line.
   (remember, the second email should contain the persons id whom you
want to hack.  In the subject line). Thats all. If your request is
qualified and passed. The password of the person you want to hack will
be send to your email address in 48 hrs.  But we do not take any
respossibilities of non delivery.

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[Declude.JunkMail] TMDA test...

2003-03-17 Thread Mark Smith
Has the addition of the TMDA test been discussed with Junkmail/Imail?

http://tmda.net

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews is incompetent (well, overzealous at least)

2003-02-07 Thread Mark Smith
Right, the only way to talk to them is through the abuse newsgroup.
The problem is that you have to deal with the comments from the millions
of other As* Hol** on that group.

I love the comments like Well just move to another ISP. Yeah right and
have to re-configure hundreds of IP addresses in DNS records, ASP, PHP,
routing, etc..

:)



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
 Phillip B. Holmes
 Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 7:27 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews is incompetent (well, 
 overzealous at least)
 
 
 Mark,
 
 I may be off base here, but I am almost positive that 
 spews.org offers no way of communicating with people. There 
 is no way to contact them.
 
 Regards,
 
 Phillip B. Holmes
 Media Resolutions Inc.
 Macromedia Alliance Partner
 http://www.mediares.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 1-888-395-4678
 972-889-0201
 
 /* Please send support requests to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] */
 
 Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.--- Chinese Proverb
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
 Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:38 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews is incompetent (well, 
 overzealous at least)
 
 
 Here Here!
 
 I'm not defending them at all but they really should use 
 something other then that kiddy farm newsgroup to communicate 
 with. I really think that's half of their perception problem.
 
 Of course their guerilla tactics don't help!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
  Phillip B. Holmes
  Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:03 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews is incompetent (well, 
  overzealous at least)
  
  
  Well,
  
  Nah, they're incompetent, overzealous and irresponsible.
  Did I say that out loud?
  
  I feel like I did my part. Today we helped convinced 
 another mid-sized 
  provider (http://www.OLM.com) to stop using spews completely. They 
  implemented spews on 02/03/03 and by 02/05/03 it was gone.
  However, I can't take all the credit. There were PLENTY of 
  ticked off users and admins reading them the riot act.
  
  
  Regards,
  
  Phillip B. Holmes
  Media Resolutions Inc.
  Macromedia Alliance Partner
  http://www.mediares.com
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  1-888-395-4678
  972-889-0201
  
  /* Please send support requests to
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] */
  
  Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.--- 
 Chinese Proverb
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
  Colbeck, Andrew
  Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:02 PM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews is incompetent (well, 
 overzealous at
  least)
  
  
  Check out this article if you haven't already.
  
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/29159.html
 
 The link to the Newsgroup message thread for pro vs. con is worth a
 read, and includes some gems.
 
 The short of it is that spews.org often lists a much bigger netblock
 than they need to, on the philosophy that users of their system prefer
 to not deal at all with an ISP that is receiving income by hosting a
 spammer.
 
 For similar reasons, even though it's a pretty darn big ISP through
 acquisitions, my ISP is listed in XBL and BLARS for a very 
 small number
 of spammer infractions.
 
 I use OSSRC but give it a relatively low weight due to the 
 likelihood of
 throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
 
 Andrew.
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews is incompetent (well, overzealous at least)

2003-02-06 Thread Mark Smith
Here Here!

I'm not defending them at all but they really should use something other
then that kiddy farm newsgroup to communicate with.
I really think that's half of their perception problem.

Of course their guerilla tactics don't help!

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
 Phillip B. Holmes
 Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:03 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews is incompetent (well, 
 overzealous at least)
 
 
 Well,
 
 Nah, they're incompetent, overzealous and irresponsible. 
 Did I say that out loud?
 
 I feel like I did my part. Today we helped convinced another 
 mid-sized provider (http://www.OLM.com) to stop using spews 
 completely. They implemented spews on 02/03/03 and by 
 02/05/03 it was gone. 
 However, I can't take all the credit. There were PLENTY of 
 ticked off users and admins reading them the riot act.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Phillip B. Holmes
 Media Resolutions Inc.
 Macromedia Alliance Partner
 http://www.mediares.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 1-888-395-4678
 972-889-0201
 
 /* Please send support requests to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] */
 
 Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.--- Chinese Proverb
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
 Colbeck, Andrew
 Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:02 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews is incompetent (well, overzealous at
 least)
 
 
 Check out this article if you haven't already.
 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/29159.html

The link to the Newsgroup message thread for pro vs. con is worth a
read, and includes some gems.

The short of it is that spews.org often lists a much bigger netblock
than they need to, on the philosophy that users of their system prefer
to not deal at all with an ISP that is receiving income by hosting a
spammer.

For similar reasons, even though it's a pretty darn big ISP through
acquisitions, my ISP is listed in XBL and BLARS for a very small number
of spammer infractions.

I use OSSRC but give it a relatively low weight due to the likelihood of
throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Andrew.
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews is incompetent.

2003-02-04 Thread Mark Smith
Same thing happened to us... You're preaching to the choir on that one.

FWIW, the way we got around it was to work with our ISP and had them
grant us a /29 subnet that wasn't listed on SPEWS.
We then multinetted that network and placed two SMTP servers on it as
gateways/smarthosts.

I've lowered OSSRC to a weight of 1. It does have some value but not
much IMHO.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
 Phillip B. Holmes
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 7:34 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spews is incompetent.
 
 
 Spews Topic:
 
 Spews.org blacklisted one of our mail servers because of a 
 domain that the client hosts on another host! He has about 20 
 sites on different networks and only one sent 1 round of spam 
 from one of his OTHER SITES BEFORE he moved a domain to us! 
 In other words, the domain in question has never been nor 
 will be our client or even near our network. 
 
 We were grouped with about 10 other ISPs as supporting 
 spam. So, we are just guilty by association!
 
 Luckily, most ISPs don't take spews seriously. Quite frankly, 
 their webpages sounds like it was written by a 14 year old 
 kid. It is amazing they have not been sued out of existence. 
 Mr. Perry would do well to remove the OSSRC listing from his 
 product completely.
 
 Regards,
 
 Phillip B. Holmes
 Media Resolutions Inc.
 Macromedia Alliance Partner
 http://www.mediares.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 1-888-395-4678
 972-889-0201
 
 /* Please send support requests to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] */
 
 Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.--- Chinese Proverb
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John 
 Tolmachoff
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:41 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Comments
 
 
  Spews is a joke and should be taken offline
 
 Agreed.
 
 John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
 IT Manager, Network Engineer
 RelianceSoft, Inc.
 Fullerton, CA  92835
 www.reliancesoft.com
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows API call to WINSOCK.DLL

2003-01-27 Thread Mark Smith
I'm not sure I understand what you want to do.
The ASP code is just done through the Request.ServerVariables
Collection.

I'm not sure I understand the requirement for the .exe

Have you ever used API's before?

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul 
 Fuhrmeister
 Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 11:21 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Windows API call to WINSOCK.DLL
 
 
 We need to do a Windows API call to WINSOCK.DLL 
  - GetHostByAddr and
  - GetHostByName
 
 Need to do it in an ASP page and in a server side .exe (VB6).
 
 It's for a project where we're running a name server with 
 spam-vertised domain names, IP Numbers and phone numbers. We 
 have an .exe to pick them out of emails, now we need to look 
 them up on the name server.
 
 Can anyone tell us what is the code to do these winsock api call?
 
 Will make all source and system available to everyone.
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...

2003-01-09 Thread Mark Smith
What is everyone doing about Hotmail, Yahoo, Juno and other web-based
mail systems?
It's really a catch-22. Hotmail is so frequently listed on RBL's and is
a large source of spam but it's also a large source of legitimate email.

They all seem to fail postmaster and abuse so they're already at 6-8
points on most peoples Junkmail.
You can't whitelist them, and the RBL's usually send them over the edge.

I use Sniffer so I've thought about adding a rule for hotmail, yahoo,
etc to subtract the sum of postmaster and abuse and let message sniffer
do some magic on these sites.

Thoughts?

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...

2003-01-09 Thread Mark Smith
That's the problem... Hotmail is on and off of Spamcop every other day.
We bounce at 12 and delete at 20.
Spamcop is at 8 so I'll put in -8 for hotmail which will adjust for the
nopostmaster and noabuse.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John 
 Tolmachoff
 Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:59 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...
 
 
 The way I have it configured, they will end up with a weight 
 of 8 and we hold at 20, so they would have to fail a test 
 like SPAMCOP or NOXMAIL or one of our major filters to be held.
 
 John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
 IT Manager, Network Engineer
 RelianceSoft, Inc.
 Fullerton, CA  92835
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No reverse dns

2003-01-09 Thread Mark Smith
This shouldn't fail REVDNS as there is a REVDNS entry. Maybe HELOBOGUS.



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 Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:24 PM
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 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No reverse dns
 
 
 Problem is there are 57 domains using one ip address.   
 Reverse lookup shows
 the domain the server is and not the other domains.  But if 
 you do a reverse lookup for mail.standardhardware.com it will 
 give you 168.75.225.197 mail.klotron.com.  Thus it fails the 
 reverse dns test.  The IP is correct but the domain name is 
 that of the main mail record.
 
 Jim Rooth
 Klotron, Inc.
 214.244.0979
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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 Tolmachoff
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 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No reverse dns
 
 Jim, only one PTR record per IP address needed. 
 
 Should only be for the mail record domain.
 
 John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
 IT Manager, Network Engineer
 RelianceSoft, Inc.
 Fullerton, CA  92835
 www.reliancesoft.com
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] any ideas?

2002-12-24 Thread Mark Smith
Put in

Nifty-fun-pages.com

It will kill anything with that string in the fromlist.

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 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] any ideas?
 
 
 Hey gang,
 First, Merry Christmas, or Happy Holidays, take your pick.
 
 First:
 One thing that really ticks me off is entries like this:
 @mail46.nifty-fun-pages.com
 @mail212.nifty-fun-pages.com
 @mail125.nifty-fun-pages.com
 
 Now I could list each of these in my kill file, but if 
 they use mail1 - mail1999 that list would get pretty long.
 I have .nifty-fun-pages.com in my FROMLIST file, but I 
 don't weight any ONE test to delete, and each of these uses a 
 different IP address.
 
 So the question:
 What's the best approach to kill this crap? My idea was 
 to create a Declude filter that IS set to delete if it fails, 
 and put .nifty-fun-pages.com in it. That would work, but does 
 anyone else do anything differently?
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Incorrect Action

2002-12-24 Thread Mark Smith
DOLP

Thanks for the extra set of eyes! :)

Merry Christmas!

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 Scott Perry
 Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 10:11 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Incorrect Action
 
 
 
 I hit the send button too fast on this one.
 There should have been another test with the log and config files.
 
 Do you see it?
 
 I've found it.  The problem seems to be due to a typo:
 
  WEIGHT1229 weightrange x x 12 19
 
  WEIGHT1219 BOUNCE
 
 If you change the WEIGHT1229 weightrange x x 12 19 line from the 
 global.cfg file to WEIGHT1219 weightrange x x 12 19, it 
 should take care 
 of the problem.
 -Scott
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] Incorrect Action

2002-12-23 Thread Mark Smith
Title: Message



Scott,Why is Junkmail assigning the action 'ignore' to these 
emails?SMTP Header:Received: from 
mail.aloansolution.com [208.179.55.3] by popmail.netrends.com with 
ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.13) id AEE938801CA; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 22:05:13 
-0500Received: from info.cisoffice.com 
([65.194.90.21]) by 
mail.aloansolution.com (VisNetic.MailServer.v5.3.5.0) with ESMTP id 
KHAVHT for 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 16:01:19 
-0800Received: from info.cisoffice.com ([65.194.90.21]) by 
info.cisoffice.com with Microsoft 
SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 
22 Dec 2002 18:00:41 -0500Received: by info.cisoffice.com (Microsoft 
Connector for POP3 Mailboxes 5.00.2195) with SMTP (Global POP3 
Download) id 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 18:00:36 
-0500Received: from mail.aloansolution.com (unverified [208.179.55.3]) by 
mailserver.carolinainternet.com(Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for 
[EMAIL PROTECTED];Sun, 22 Dec 2002 17:50:22 -0500Message-ID: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Received: from localhost 
([127.0.0.1]) by 
mail.aloansolution.com (VisNetic.MailServer.v5.3.5.0) with SMTP id 
KHAVHT for 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 14:20:19 -0800Date: 
Sun, 22 Dec 2002 14:20:19 -0800From: Jim 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
Ready to Refinance? We make it EASY! ADVX-Mailer: VisNetic 
WebMail 3.3.3X-Originating-IP: 208.54.20.242MIME-Version: 
1.0Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 
7bitReturn-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Dec 2002 
23:00:41.0747 (UTC) FILETIME=[F3912E30:01C2AA0D]X-RBL-Warning: SPAMCOP: 
Blocked - see http://spamcop.net/bl.shtml?208.179.55.3X-RBL-Warning: 
REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 208.179.55.3 with no reverse DNS 
entry.X-RBL-Warning: SPAMFILTER: Message failed SPAMFILTER test 
(19)X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) 
for spam.X-Spam-Tests-Failed: SPAMCOP, REVDNS, SPAMFILTER, 
WEIGHT1229X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Status: UX-UIDL: 
330496548
Logfile:KFILE 
 DELETEDSBL 
 WARNORDB 
 WARNOSDUL 
 WARNOSFORM 
 WARNOSLIST 
 WARNOSRELAY 
 WARNOSSMART 
 
WARNOSSOFT 
WARNOSSRC 
WARNSPAMCOP  WARNBASE64 
 
WARNSPAMFILTER 
WARNMONKEYPROXIES WARNMONKEYFORMMAIL 
WARNDSN 
 WARNNOABUSE 
 
WARNNOPOSTMASTER 
WARNBADHEADERS 
WARNHELOBOGUS 
WARNMAILFROM WARNPERCENT 
 WARNREVDNS 
 WARNROUTING 
 
WARNSPAMHEADERS WARNSNIFFER 
 
WARNWEIGHT1219 
BOUNCEWEIGHT20 DELETE 



RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hex Code URL's...

2002-12-19 Thread Mark Smith
This is a trick to make the user think that they're going to a link on
yahoo.
Actually this is redirecting them to IP address:

0xD5.0xEF.0x8F.0x9A 

or 213.239.143.154 and then encode the path.

I can't see any reason to do this.


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Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hex Code URL's...


Hi;
I am seeing more and more URL's that are encoded, like:

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/%72%65%64%6C%69%67%68%74%65%6D%
61%69%6C%2F%69%6D%61%67%65%73%2F%30%

I am yet to see anyone with a legitimate eMail use such an approach for
sending their links.

Is there a legitimate reason to do this?

It seems like this could be an easy test to have in JM for the body.  It
is almost like a 100% guarantee that if used this is a spam..

Regards,
Kami

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hex Code URL's...

2002-12-19 Thread Mark Smith
Theoretically, there should never be a @ symbol in the URL unless it
contains authentication. I can't think of that happening too often.

The problem is searching for http://%@% where % is the wildcard. I don't
think this is possible with the current filters.
Scott?

Maybe just placing a weight test to search for @ or %40 would help, but
as _M just pointed out there are some that will be trapped.



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 Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:18 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hex Code URL's...
 
 
 We've done some research on this and experimented with some 
 rules. More rule templates are coming, but as it turns out - 
 filtering this is harder than you might expect - depending 
 upon your system's requirements. Many supposedly legitimate 
 mail/news systems encode large segments of URLs or even 
 entire urls after some processing root in order to track user 
 activity. Many of our first attempts to filter based on this 
 kind of encoding have since been rejected due to false 
 positive requests.
 
 One such rule even blocked messages from the IMail list due 
 to an encoded %40 in the tag line.
 
 One trick that seems to reduce the false positive rate is to 
 define the root of the URL carefully and to ensure that the 
 pattern match is at the root of the URL... so, for example, 
 look for the href= or href= at the top of the url to avoid 
 the kind of legitimate encoding that might come later.
 
 Hope this helps,
 _M
 
 PS: We do have a number of rules coding for patters like this 
 and they are very successful - not as successful as we 
 thought they would be, but still pretty good!
 
 Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
 President, MicroNeil Research Corporation
 Chief SortMonster (www.sortmonster.com)
 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] An optional web interface for Declude JunkMail?

2002-12-17 Thread Mark Smith
I'll be willing to publish mine (with source) but I'm not going to offer
an installer. :)

Here's how mine works..

All filter files and blacklists are kept in SQL tables. Actions (bounce,
alert, etc) and Locations (mailfrom, subject, body) are also kept in
SQL tables.
The logic is pretty simple on this part. There's just an ASP front end
but the catch is that it's dependant on ASPGrid by Persits Software so
you'll need to purchase that COM Object to get this to work out of the
box:
http://www.aspgrid.com
There's just more code involved to do the same thing in regular ASP but
it's not that hard.

The second part is a VB6 Application that simply extracts the tables,
reformats, and writes them into the \declude directory.
I chose to make this an actual application that has hooks back into IIS
(using STDOUT) rather than an ASP or COM .dll because I wanted to be
able to run it from a command line as well as the web interface.
All you do is click on the publish link and IIS runs the .exe and the
tables are written.

Since there is currently no external whitelist, I've used a filter file
that sets the weight to -100.
If you know VB and ASP then it will be pretty easy to customize.

You'll need:
ADO 2.7 (MDAC 2.7) http://www.microsoft.com/data/
VB6 Runtime files
ASPGrid http://www.aspgrid.com









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 Declude JunkMail?
 
 
 Double yes and Christmas wish !
 
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 Date:  Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:54:58 -
 
 A definite yes.
 
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 Scott Perry
 Sent: 17 December 2002 00:50
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] An optional web interface for Declude 
 JunkMail?
 
 
 A lot of our customers seem to want a web interface to Declude 
 JunkMail,
 
 mostly so that customers can turn their spam settings on or off.
 
 We haven't come up with something in the past, because it is very
 complicated without a hook into web messaging, and it 
 doesn't look like 
 Ipswitch is planning to add an interface to web messaging 
 any time soon.
 
 However, we are at the point where we are considering a web 
 interface. 
 If we do it, it would probably need to be done as an addon to Declude
 JunkMail, mainly because the development and support costs would be
 fairly 
 high.  It would also have some drawbacks, being separate from web 
 messaging.  For example, it would require installing a 
 separate service,
 
 using a different port than 80 or 8383 for web access (which 
 may cause
 firewall problems), and having users enter their username/password a
 second 
 time (if they are already using web messaging).
 
 Is this something that is important enough that it would be 
 worthwhile?
   -Scott
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] An optional web interface for Declude JunkMail?

2002-12-17 Thread Mark Smith
 That's why we try stay away from the bleeding edge technology 
 -- there's a 
 reason they use the word bleeding.  It will actually be 
 easier for us to 
 use a flat file than to use a database.

ODBC for text files? :)

 Sorry, I should have included PHP in that list (which is amazingly 
 flexible, BTW).  We're not talking about something the 
 typical pre-bubble 
 We need to show them something to collect our $10 million 
 funding company 
 would produce.  We actually wrote a web scripting language 
 well before ASP 
 was available, and wrote our first web server back when 
 people thought that 
 dynamic content on a web page was a web page that was updated 
 by hand every 
 few hours.
 
 If we require ASP or PHP, we're going to require something 
 that a number of 
 our customers either don't have or won't have.  Many of our 
 customers would 
 not even think of installing IIS or Apache on a mailserver.
  -Scott

Interesting.
Another thought... Is there any hook into the iMail web
interface/server?
If so, could it run your scripting engine?

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