[Declude.JunkMail] Strange problem
I had a user today come to me and say that none of the emails they sent today where delivered even though they left the users outbox. After a general look over I found that every email they were sending it was being blocked and deleted as spam by declude global.cfg Not sure what the problem was and none of my other users are having this problem. I added this user to the white list even though the mail server is already on the white list and now they are able to send email and have them get past declude. Has anyone else seen this problem? Greg Foulks, MCP NewFound Technologies, Inc. http://www.nfti.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 614.318.5036 Fax: 614.318.5005 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange problem
I had a user today come to me and say that none of the emails they sent today where delivered even though they left the users outbox. After a general look over I found that every email they were sending it was being blocked and deleted as spam by declude global.cfg Not sure what the problem was ... Have you checked the Declude JunkMail log file to see which test(s) the E-mail failed? Have you checked your \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file to see what tests are set to DELETE? and none of my other users are having this problem. I added this user to the white list even though the mail server is already on the white list and now they are able to send email and have them get past declude. Has anyone else seen this problem? It's not a problem -- it is the standard operation of Declude JunkMail. If you scan outgoing E-mail and have it deleted when it fails certain tests, well, it will get deleted if it fails those tests. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange problem
I have a block on the word cum in my wordfilter list and the users name is acummings. How can I block the word cum without affecting this user? That's one of the major difficulties of filtering -- words like assassin, Dick Hitchcock, chardonney, etc. will get caught. Unfortunately, there isn't any way with Declude JunkMail to filter spaces before or after the keywords that you are filtering on. This is in the suggestion database, but note that it will require adding several entries to account for various punctuation. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange problem
I found the problem. I have a block on the word c u m (take out the spaces) in my wordfilter list and the users name is ac u mmings (take out the spaces). How can I block the word c u m(take out the spaces) without affecting this user? Greg Foulks, MCP NewFound Technologies, Inc. http://www.nfti.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 614.318.5036 Fax: 614.318.5005 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-owner;declude.com]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 2:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange problem I had a user today come to me and say that none of the emails they sent today where delivered even though they left the users outbox. After a general look over I found that every email they were sending it was being blocked and deleted as spam by declude global.cfg Not sure what the problem was ... Have you checked the Declude JunkMail log file to see which test(s) the E-mail failed? Have you checked your \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file to see what tests are set to DELETE? and none of my other users are having this problem. I added this user to the white list even though the mail server is already on the white list and now they are able to send email and have them get past declude. Has anyone else seen this problem? It's not a problem -- it is the standard operation of Declude JunkMail. If you scan outgoing E-mail and have it deleted when it fails certain tests, well, it will get deleted if it fails those tests. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange problem
How can I block the word c u m(take out the spaces) without affecting this user? If the E-mail I sent to the list was blocked on your server, you'll need to go through your hold directory to find it. If you use the DELETE action, well, you'll need to search the archives. :) -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange problem
Put a space after cum (without the quote marks, of course) in your filter file and that will keep it from catching the users name. Bill -Original Message- From: Greg Foulks [mailto:greg.foulks;nfti.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 12:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange problem I found the problem. I have a block on the word c u m (take out the spaces) in my wordfilter list and the users name is ac u mmings (take out the spaces). How can I block the word c u m(take out the spaces) without affecting this user? Greg Foulks, MCP NewFound Technologies, Inc. http://www.nfti.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 614.318.5036 Fax: 614.318.5005 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-owner;declude.com]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 2:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange problem I had a user today come to me and say that none of the emails they sent today where delivered even though they left the users outbox. After a general look over I found that every email they were sending it was being blocked and deleted as spam by declude global.cfg Not sure what the problem was ... Have you checked the Declude JunkMail log file to see which test(s) the E-mail failed? Have you checked your \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file to see what tests are set to DELETE? and none of my other users are having this problem. I added this user to the white list even though the mail server is already on the white list and now they are able to send email and have them get past declude. Has anyone else seen this problem? It's not a problem -- it is the standard operation of Declude JunkMail. If you scan outgoing E-mail and have it deleted when it fails certain tests, well, it will get deleted if it fails those tests. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by Pointshare's Virus Scanning Service] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange problem
I use the delete action. How can I find the email in the archives? Greg Foulks, MCP NewFound Technologies, Inc. http://www.nfti.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 614.318.5036 Fax: 614.318.5005 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-owner;declude.com]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange problem How can I block the word c u m(take out the spaces) without affecting this user? If the E-mail I sent to the list was blocked on your server, you'll need to go through your hold directory to find it. If you use the DELETE action, well, you'll need to search the archives. :) -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange problem
okay send it again Greg Foulks, MCP NewFound Technologies, Inc. http://www.nfti.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 614.318.5036 Fax: 614.318.5005 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-owner;declude.com]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange problem I use the delete action. How can I find the email in the archives? If you can turn off that test temporarily, I can re-send it for you. Or, you can look at the link below to find the URL to the archives. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange problem
Scott, It did not come through. Could you send the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or maybe point to where I might find info about this in the documentation? Thanks, Greg Foulks, MCP NewFound Technologies, Inc. http://www.nfti.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 614.318.5036 Fax: 614.318.5005 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-owner;declude.com]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange problem I use the delete action. How can I find the email in the archives? If you can turn off that test temporarily, I can re-send it for you. Or, you can look at the link below to find the URL to the archives. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange problem
I have a block on the word cum in my wordfilter list and the users name is acummings. How can I block the word cum without affecting this user? That's one of the major difficulties of filtering -- words like assassin, Dick Hitchcock, chardonney, etc. will get caught. Unfortunately, there isn't any way with Declude JunkMail to filter spaces before or after the keywords that you are filtering on. This is in the suggestion database, but note that it will require adding several entries to account for various punctuation. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange problem
It did not come through. Then you are still filtering on those same keywords. :) Could you send the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or maybe point to where I might find info about this in the documentation? The post was just mentioning that filters are fraught with pitfalls, and gave some examples. There's nothing in the documentation that is needed to get past this; just common sense (IE if you block as*s, you will block as*sas*sin; I've added the *'s to get past your filters). -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] strange problem
The problem here is that both E-mails are expected to be treated identically in a situation like this. AOL is one E-mail to two recipients (not two separate E-mails to two recipients). And IMail also handles it as one E-mail with two recipients. So Declude JunkMail has one E-mail that you want to do two different things to, which just won't work. is there anything I can do to prevent this situation? For this case, you could have WHITELIST TODOMAIN domainB in the global.cfg file, which should prevent any action from being taken on E-mail addressed to domainB. -Scott but one email coming in in one session addressed to two users on different domains - still gets treated the same piece of email right? Defaulting to the most restrictive? OR defaulting to the whitlist setting? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] strange problem
but one email coming in in one session addressed to two users on different domains - still gets treated the same piece of email right? That's correct. It doesn't matter whether they are on the same domain or not (AOL uses a smart system for sending mail, and knows that both domains use the same IP address to accept mail). Defaulting to the most restrictive? OR defaulting to the whitlist setting? The whitelisting will take priority. If there is no whitelisting, then the most restrictive action will be used. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
