[Declude.Virus] dropping virus report e-mails

2004-03-25 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi,

I also asked this question in the IMail forum but.

could I maybe do something with the BANNAME keyword without sending the
standard reply which I do want to send for regular files I ban on extention?
As far as I know I have little flexibility (yet) in the the name of the
*.eml file which needs to be BANnotify.eml

While we are on the subject, can I easily delete e-mails with a 0 byte zip
file, as they are just broken virusses anyway?

Like I wrote below, I have IMail (8.05), Declude (1.78i28) Junkmail standard
and virus pro

Met vriendelijke groet,

Bonno Bloksma

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 Hi,

 Some virusses send to the secondary MX, that's the MX from my uplink. He
 also does virusscanning but reports those virusses to the end recipient.
My
 users are going crazy with those hundreds of emails and I simply want to
 drop them. As my uplink has some/several customers who want to receive
those
 e-mails and he cannot differentiate between customers I have to drop them
 myself.

 Is there a way to have a domain wide rule in IMail to simply delete all
 mails that have an attachment called: Virtu-Attachment-Warning.txt ?
 That is the only constant in all those virus report e-mails.
 I'm also using Declude Junkmail standard and virus pro, if any of those
 products can do what I want then that's ok too.


 Met vriendelijke groet,

 Bonno Bloksma

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Re: [Declude.Virus] Trend and McAfee installed on same machine

2004-03-25 Thread R. Scott Perry

 One option (with Declude Virus Pro) is to ban file extensions within .ZIP
 files (blocking all .EXE, .PIF, .SCR, .BAT, .COM, etc. files).  The other
 option would be to rename the .ZIP file to use another extension.

So if I understand correctly, I should be able to send a zip file to
somebody on my server and they will receive it?  But, if it was zip file
that contained a scr or pif or whatever, Declude would stop it?
Again, it all depends on how you have it set up.

With BANEXT EZIP, all encrypted .ZIP files are blocked (which is 
recommended).  In that case, you can send a .ZIP file to someone on your 
server and they will receive it (assuming it is not an encrypted .ZIP file).

If you do not want to ban all encrypted .ZIP files, you'll need to use 
Declude Virus Pro with BANEZIPEXTS ON (to ban file extensions within 
encrypted .ZIP files; you can also use BANZIPEXTS ON to ban file 
extensions within non-encrypted .ZIP files) and a bunch of BANEXT lines 
(one per extension you wish to block).  Then, those extensions will be 
blocked in standard files, as well as encrypted .ZIP and/or standard .ZIP 
files.

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Re: [Declude.Virus] dropping virus report e-mails

2004-03-25 Thread R. Scott Perry

I also asked this question in the IMail forum but.

could I maybe do something with the BANNAME keyword without sending the
standard reply which I do want to send for regular files I ban on extention?
As far as I know I have little flexibility (yet) in the the name of the
*.eml file which needs to be BANnotify.eml
Right now, there isn't a way that you could use BANNAME and not send out 
the banned file notification (unless you turned off the banned file 
notifications completely).

While we are on the subject, can I easily delete e-mails with a 0 byte zip
file, as they are just broken virusses anyway?
No, I am not aware of any way to do that.

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.Virus] Request for per-domain configuration

2004-03-25 Thread Darin Cox
Hmmm...I hate having to turn off the footer for everyone just because of one
customers.  Haven't run into it yet myself, but some people on this list
will probably run into the problem with having to pass encrypted zips for
one customer while banning them for everyone else...or similar requests for
other files... so how about this...

Add support for domain-specific configuration files.  This would allow not
only removing the footer on a domain basis, but also skipping/banning of
files, deletion of viruses,  and potentially even virus codes (such as the
F-Prot virus code 8 for suspicious files) to be configurable by domain.

Would mostly solve our problem as well as provide much greater flexibility
for everyone...and hopefully be easier to implement than the fix for the
footer problem.

Thoughts?

Darin.


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Early in 2002 you mentioned in this list...

We are planning to change the footer option so that it will only appear in
plain text segments, which will prevent interfering with the [Outlook]
meeting
requests, and will ensure that the footer is visible even when HTML and/or
attachments are present.

What there a resolution to this?

No, that has remained a fairly low priority, because of two factors: [1] it
is not commonly requested, and [2] would be a lot of work.

If not, is there any way to turn the footer off for a single domain?

No.  The FOOTER option is a global option.

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Trend and McAfee installed on same machine

2004-03-25 Thread Kami Razvan
Scott:

Just an idea... 

What if you extend the idea of Whitelist password to Declude Virus- for
password protected zip files.

If the subject has a code then the attachment with password protected will
be skipped.  If you can take the subject and delete the password before
passing it on it can work great.. Sort of like the password protected list
in IMail.

This can solve a lot of problems.. But I am sure it can introduce more.

Kami 

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Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Trend and McAfee installed on same machine


  One option (with Declude Virus Pro) is to ban file extensions within 
  .ZIP files (blocking all .EXE, .PIF, .SCR, .BAT, .COM, etc. files).  
  The other option would be to rename the .ZIP file to use another
extension.

So if I understand correctly, I should be able to send a zip file to 
somebody on my server and they will receive it?  But, if it was zip 
file that contained a scr or pif or whatever, Declude would stop it?

Again, it all depends on how you have it set up.

With BANEXT EZIP, all encrypted .ZIP files are blocked (which is
recommended).  In that case, you can send a .ZIP file to someone on your
server and they will receive it (assuming it is not an encrypted .ZIP file).

If you do not want to ban all encrypted .ZIP files, you'll need to use
Declude Virus Pro with BANEZIPEXTS ON (to ban file extensions within
encrypted .ZIP files; you can also use BANZIPEXTS ON to ban file
extensions within non-encrypted .ZIP files) and a bunch of BANEXT lines (one
per extension you wish to block).  Then, those extensions will be blocked in
standard files, as well as encrypted .ZIP and/or standard .ZIP files.

-Scott
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[Declude.Virus] F-prot passing Netsky.P or variant?

2004-03-25 Thread Darin Cox



Anyone else having trouble with a lot of new 
viruses slipping through?

I submitted two to F-Prot earlier this morning, but 
they are claiming that the attachments were Netsky.P. However, I have the 
latest virus defs from them and the virus logs clearly show them being scanned 
and virus free.

I'm betting it's a new, fast-spreading variant or 
Netsky, but am curious as to what others are seeing..
Darin.




RE: [Declude.Virus] F-prot passing Netsky.P or variant?

2004-03-25 Thread Rodney Bertsch



Darin,

Sounds 
exactly like what we had happen yesterday but the mail logs made it look like 
there was no attachment in the e-mail. Yet Norton caught an 
attachmentas Netsky.P. Something 
strange

- 
Rodney

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  Behalf Of Darin CoxSent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 10:17 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Declude.Virus] 
  F-prot passing Netsky.P or variant?
  Anyone else having trouble with a lot of new 
  viruses slipping through?
  
  I submitted two to F-Prot earlier this morning, 
  but they are claiming that the attachments were Netsky.P. However, I 
  have the latest virus defs from them and the virus logs clearly show them 
  being scanned and virus free.
  
  I'm betting it's a new, fast-spreading variant or 
  Netsky, but am curious as to what others are seeing..
  Darin.
  
  


RE: [Declude.Virus] Netsky returns with auto-response

2004-03-25 Thread Rodney Bertsch
Now that Darin has posted something similar I have to ask...  If Norton
caught something that wasn't actually there, then what is the 28.8 kb file
it put in quarantine?   Could the virus have come through as text which
didn't show as an attachment?

Thanks,

Rodney

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03/24/2004 11:02:31 Qb110d53600d64d81 Scanned: Virus Free

If there is nothing after the Virus Free, that would indicate that there
weren't any actual attachments.

Most likely, the bounce message included something like Original message
follows:, followed by the original message.  In this case, it's actually a
text file, but Norton is improperly treating it as a MIME file (so it sees
a virus that really isn't there).

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] F-prot passing Netsky.P or variant?

2004-03-25 Thread Grant Griffith - Declude Virus



I had 
one slip thru to me this morning also... McAfee detected it on my system 
as the W32/Netsky.b.eml!zip virus. Not sure as to where it quarantined the 
file too, but I was surprised my banext's did not catch it 
also.

Sincerely,Grant Griffith, Vice PresidentEI8HT LEGS Web 
Management Co., Inc.http://www.getafreewebsite.com877-483-3393 
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AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Declude.Virus] 
F-prot passing Netsky.P or variant?
Anyone else having trouble with a lot of new 
viruses slipping through?

I submitted two to F-Prot earlier this morning, but 
they are claiming that the attachments were Netsky.P. However, I have the 
latest virus defs from them and the virus logs clearly show them being scanned 
and virus free.

I'm betting it's a new, fast-spreading variant or 
Netsky, but am curious as to what others are seeing..
Darin.




RE: [Declude.Virus] F-prot passing Netsky.P or variant?

2004-03-25 Thread R. Scott Perry

I had one slip thru to me this morning also...  McAfee detected it on my 
system as the W32/Netsky.b.eml!zip virus.  Not sure as to where it 
quarantined the file too, but I was surprised my banext's did not catch it 
also.
The .eml is now being used for E-mails where no virus is detected, but 
the E-mail appears to have been generated by a virus.  Since no virus was 
present, Declude Virus allowed the E-mail through.

   -Scott
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[Declude.Virus] Suggestion, Whitelist password in subject

2004-03-25 Thread Greg Little
This might be a way to block virus traffic, but allow employees and 
selected customers to send and receive EZip files.
For example, when a virus sample is sent to McAfee's AVERT, they want a 
zip encrypted with infected. Currently I expect that since I'm 
blocking EZips, I could not send a sample to AVERT though my e-mail server.

The danger would be that viruses, etc. might use this system against us. 
As long as each site chose it's own (different) White list Code Word, 
and changed it as needed, that risk should be low.
A few viruses (none of the current batch?) have responded to currently 
unanswered e-mails, so that would increase the risk of  a virus getting 
through.

The White list Code Word would NOT be related to the Zip file password.
So the subject might be My important and encrypted info [CodeWord$12]
Would we only want to override the ban ezip?
Leave other checking like extension blocking (no EXEs or PIFs) in place?
Still pass the file to the virus scanners?
Although this concept could be extended to white list past all kinds of 
checking, a poorly configured/administered mail server could have some 
huge holes.

I like the idea, but sometimes the details get messy.
For the sites that need to handle EZips, it might be a way to open the 
door and still keep most of the protections in place.

--

Greg Little

Kami Razvan wrote:

Scott:

Just an idea... 

What if you extend the idea of White list password to Declude Virus- for
password protected zip files.
If the subject has a code then the attachment with password protected will
be skipped.  If you can take the subject and delete the password before
passing it on it can work great.. Sort of like the password protected list
in IMail.
This can solve a lot of problems.. But I am sure it can introduce more.

Kami 

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