RE: [Declude.Virus] .vir directories in spool\proc

2005-09-26 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Title: .vir directories in spool\proc









There
has been information on this issue on the Declude Junkmail list, which is
where most of the beta stuff is talked about.





John T

eServices For You







-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcel Sangers
Sent: Monday,
 September 26, 2005 10:30 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] .vir
directories in spool\proc



Hi
all,

I
use Declude (beta) JM and AV with F-Prot and AVG. Daily I find
multiple .vir directories in my \spool\proc directory. Why is this?

Regards,

Marcel










RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

2005-09-22 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Grant, contact me off list and we can test this.

John T
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Grant Griffith
 Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:58 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
 
 Is anyone using Declude Confirm with success in this beta version?  Was
just
 curious if it is working properly now in this newer version.  I am still
 running version 2.0.6.16 as I don't have a test box to play with.  But I
 really need to get Declude Confirm working so was thinking of going with
the
 beta this weekend.
 
 Thanks,
 Grant Griffith
 EI8HTLEGS, A Division of ETC
 (812)932-1000
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
 Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:41 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com; Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
 
 2 new Directives
 
 WAITFORTHREADS  1500
 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5
seconds
 this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time
 specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads.
 
 WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1
 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond
 The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process
another
 thread.
 
 David B
 www.declude.com
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

2005-09-22 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
There is an issue with both Hijack and Confirm with Beta 3.0.4.4. The issue
has to do with the handling of domain aliases. Declude is aware of the issue
and is working on it.

John T
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Grant Griffith
 Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:58 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
 
 Is anyone using Declude Confirm with success in this beta version?  Was
just
 curious if it is working properly now in this newer version.  I am still
 running version 2.0.6.16 as I don't have a test box to play with.  But I
 really need to get Declude Confirm working so was thinking of going with
the
 beta this weekend.
 
 Thanks,
 Grant Griffith
 EI8HTLEGS, A Division of ETC
 (812)932-1000
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
 Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:41 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com; Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
 
 2 new Directives
 
 WAITFORTHREADS  1500
 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5
seconds
 this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time
 specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads.
 
 WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1
 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond
 The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process
another
 thread.
 
 David B
 www.declude.com
 
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[Declude.Virus] VBE attachments

2005-09-20 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Everyone is banning vbe attachments, correct?

http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32pegasa.html

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[Declude.Virus] blocking eml and msg attachemtns

2005-09-14 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
What are others thoughts on blocking eml and msg attachments?

If there is an eml or msg attachment which that has a executable or virus
attachment, will Declude properly decode it and will it be scanned for
viruses and banned attachments?

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this morning

2005-09-12 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
What is the payload inside the zip?

John T
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Matt
 Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 7:52 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this morning
 
 FYI, We found a rapidly spreading zip virus beginning at about 8:15 a.m.
 this morning, first coming from Eastern Europe.  McAfee seems to be
 detecting all of them now, but F-Prot as of this moment is not on our
 system.  Every attachment name seemingly contained the word price.
 Here's a quick filter that I had put together for it:
 
 HEADERSENDNOTCONTAINSboundary=
 BODYENDNOTCONTAINSattachment; filename=
 BODYENDNOTCONTAINS.zip Content-Transfer-Encoding
 BODY15CONTAINS price
 
 Matt
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this morning

2005-09-12 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
OK, so it is cpl file, which we should all have in our list of banned
extensions including banned if within a zip file, so we should all be safe,
correct?

John T
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
 Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 11:49 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this morning
 
 I opened the zip file and it contained one file called 1.cpl (without
the
 quotes).  Some sort of malicious Control Panel applet?
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 11:55 AM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this morning
 
 
  What is the payload inside the zip?
 
  John T
  eServices For You
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Matt
  Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 7:52 AM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this morning
 
  FYI, We found a rapidly spreading zip virus beginning at about 8:15
a.m.
  this morning, first coming from Eastern Europe.  McAfee seems to be
  detecting all of them now, but F-Prot as of this moment is not on our
  system.  Every attachment name seemingly contained the word price.
  Here's a quick filter that I had put together for it:
 
  HEADERSENDNOTCONTAINSboundary=
  BODYENDNOTCONTAINSattachment; filename=
  BODYENDNOTCONTAINS.zip Content-Transfer-Encoding
  BODY15CONTAINS price
 
  Matt
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown

2005-09-09 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Since when is Maine no longer in the Atlantic time zone? How come I did not
get the notice?

I never get the notices!

Has any one informed the president?

John T
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 On Behalf Of Darin Cox
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:55 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
 
 You mean 4AM ET... We do have some sickos over here that get up to go to
 work then perhaps we could just send them over to you to solve this
 whole problem.  If not, perhaps we could just insert an hour between 1am
 PT/4am ET and 1:00:01am PT/4:00:01am ET.  That would fix it.
 
 Darin.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 1:42 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
 
 
 Nope, we here on the West coast protested loudly. We clearly stated it
could
 not be done before 1 AM. However, 1 AM here is 5 AM in the Atlantic time
 zone, and those people stated it must be done before 5 AM. Therefore the
 normal reboot of the Internet has been on hold for a long time until this
 dispute can be resolved.
 
 John T
 eServices For You
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Darin Cox
  Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:33 AM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
 
  I thought it was rebooted every night around 3 am ET...
 
  Darin.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Scott Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 12:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
 
 
  You can't do an internet reboot on a Friday. You need to wait until the
  weekend.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:48 AM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
 
 
   Maybe someone should reboot the Internet.
  
   Matt
  
  
  
   Keith Johnson wrote:
  
  I am seeing this as we attempting to get to certain websites and they
  can't be displayed.
  
  Keith
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rodney Bertsch
  Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:30 AM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
  
  Hello all!
  
  This may be off topic, but has anyone else experienced a sudden
Internet
  slowdown this morning starting about 11:00 EST?   We have locations
  across
  the country and are experiencing problems in about half our locations,
  most
  using SBC DSL for Internet service.  Our primary Telnet app is DOA in
  these
  locations and e-mail and web surfing is slow everywhere.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Rodney Bertsch
  
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown

2005-09-09 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
NO NO NO NO

Then all of our clients will be asking us how come we have not done the work
yesterday that they asked us to do tomorrow.

John T
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Darin Cox
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:39 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
 
 Hmmm... that gets me thinking... maybe all offices should be located
 straddling the international date line.  Then if someone wants something
 done on a particular day, and you missed it, you could just walk over to
the
 other side of the building, finish it, and tell them it's done.
 
 Darin.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 2:07 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
 
 
 No problem, Darin.
 
 We'll have Newfoundland reboot it.  They're half an hour off of
 everybody else.
 
 Andrew 8)
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
  Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:55 AM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
 
  You mean 4AM ET... We do have some sickos over here that get
  up to go to work then perhaps we could just send them
  over to you to solve this whole problem.  If not, perhaps we
  could just insert an hour between 1am PT/4am ET and 1:00:01am
  PT/4:00:01am ET.  That would fix it.
 
  Darin.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 1:42 PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
 
 
  Nope, we here on the West coast protested loudly. We clearly
  stated it could
  not be done before 1 AM. However, 1 AM here is 5 AM in the
  Atlantic time
  zone, and those people stated it must be done before 5 AM.
  Therefore the
  normal reboot of the Internet has been on hold for a long
  time until this
  dispute can be resolved.
 
  John T
  eServices For You
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   On Behalf Of Darin Cox
   Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:33 AM
   To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
   Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
  
   I thought it was rebooted every night around 3 am ET...
  
   Darin.
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Scott Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
   Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 12:01 PM
   Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
  
  
   You can't do an internet reboot on a Friday. You need to
  wait until the
   weekend.
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
   Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:48 AM
   Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
  
  
Maybe someone should reboot the Internet.
   
Matt
   
   
   
Keith Johnson wrote:
   
   I am seeing this as we attempting to get to certain
  websites and they
   can't be displayed.
   
   Keith
   
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  Rodney Bertsch
   Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:30 AM
   To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
   Subject: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
   
   Hello all!
   
   This may be off topic, but has anyone else experienced a
  sudden Internet
   slowdown this morning starting about 11:00 EST?   We have
  locations
   across
   the country and are experiencing problems in about half
  our locations,
   most
   using SBC DSL for Internet service.  Our primary Telnet
  app is DOA in
   these
   locations and e-mail and web surfing is slow everywhere.
   
   Thanks,
   
   Rodney Bertsch
   
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown

2005-09-09 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Because that then admits you knew about it tomorrow.

John T
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of David Barker
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 1:26 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
 
 Andrew,
 
 Why not just give it to them yesterday ?
 
 David B
 www.declude.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 4:21 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
 
 Them: When can we have it?
 
 Me: Tomorrow.
 
 Them: No, if we wanted it tomorrow, we'd ask for it tomorrow!
 
 
 Andrew 8)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
  (Lists)
  Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 12:39 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
 
  NO NO NO NO
 
  Then all of our clients will be asking us how come we have not done
  the work yesterday that they asked us to do tomorrow.
 
  John T
  eServices For You
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   On Behalf Of Darin Cox
   Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:39 AM
   To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
   Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
  
   Hmmm... that gets me thinking... maybe all offices should
  be located
   straddling the international date line.  Then if someone wants
   something done on a particular day, and you missed it, you
  could just
   walk over to
  the
   other side of the building, finish it, and tell them it's done.
  
   Darin.
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
   Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 2:07 PM
   Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
  
  
   No problem, Darin.
  
   We'll have Newfoundland reboot it.  They're half an hour off of
   everybody else.
  
   Andrew 8)
  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:55 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
   
You mean 4AM ET... We do have some sickos over here that
  get up to
go to work then perhaps we could just send them over
  to you to
solve this whole problem.  If not, perhaps we could just
  insert an
hour between 1am PT/4am ET and 1:00:01am PT/4:00:01am ET.  That
would fix it.
   
Darin.
   
   
- Original Message -
From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 1:42 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
   
   
Nope, we here on the West coast protested loudly. We
  clearly stated
it could not be done before 1 AM. However, 1 AM here is 5
  AM in the
Atlantic time zone, and those people stated it must be
  done before 5
AM.
Therefore the
normal reboot of the Internet has been on hold for a long
  time until
this dispute can be resolved.
   
John T
eServices For You
   
   
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Darin Cox
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:33 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown

 I thought it was rebooted every night around 3 am ET...

 Darin.


 - Original Message -
 From: Scott Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 12:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown


 You can't do an internet reboot on a Friday. You need to
wait until the
 weekend.

 - Original Message -
 From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown


  Maybe someone should reboot the Internet.
 
  Matt
 
 
 
  Keith Johnson wrote:
 
 I am seeing this as we attempting to get to certain
websites and they
 can't be displayed.
 
 Keith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Rodney Bertsch
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:30 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
 
 Hello all!
 
 This may be off topic, but has anyone else experienced a
sudden Internet
 slowdown this morning starting about 11:00 EST?   We have
locations
 across
 the country and are experiencing problems in about half

RE: [Declude.Virus] OT: Online file check?

2005-07-25 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)









While the site you are looking for is
called www.virustotal.com, here are steps you will probably have to take:



Basically what you will end up doing is
first finding what the registry key for it is, what is the actual executable
name, restart the computer in safe mode, and delete or rename the registry key,
delete the executable, and possibly put restrictive permissions on the
registry key and on the directory it creates and uses. 



I have also had to use Administrators
Pak by Winternals to go in and modify the registry and delete files before when
even booting to safe mode did not work.





John T

eServices For You







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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of William Stillwell
Sent: Monday, July
 25, 2005 12:05 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] OT:
Online file check?





At one time i saw a post about a site that you can upload and it will
scan it with





the popular scanners and check it..











I have this evil little program that i can't remove from a users
computer, and i have done





everything.. It keeps Renaming itself on termination..











It spawns under explorer, rundll32, svchost and just totally takes
over, and once its connected





to an internet connection, downloads just about every peace of
malware/spyware it can..











Thanks-


















RE: [Declude.Virus] Limit Size of message to be scanned?

2005-07-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)








50 MB e-mail attachments?



Youch!





John T

eServices For You







-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grant Griffith
Sent: Thursday, July
 07, 2005 8:36 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Limit
Size of message to be scanned?



Hello All,



Is there a way to limit the size of the message that
Declude/F-Prot can scan? We have some customers that are sending 50+ meg
files and it is causing our servers to have major issues. Is there a
setting to say skip anything over a certain size? Either in F-Prot or
Declude?



We fixed it currently by setting it to OFF for certain
domains, but really want to ban extensions and vulnerabilities for those
domains.





Thanks,

Grant Griffith

EI8HTLEGS, A Division of ETC

(812)932-1000












RE: [Declude.Virus] NetSky and Sasser author sentenced, Microsoft pays up

2005-07-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Title: Message









So the virus writer got a slap on the
wrist. Boy, that will sure send a message to would be virus writers.





John T

eServices For You







-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Friday, July
 08, 2005 11:40 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] NetSky
and Sasser author sentenced, Microsoft pays up





Well, the speculation on whether Microsoft
would make good on their bounty to Sven Jaschen's friends is over.











http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/

















Andrew 8)












RE: [Declude.Virus] viruses getting through

2005-06-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Declude Virus has no definitions to update.

Are you using AFTERJM ON?

Logs, what do the logs say?

John T
eServices For You

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Daniel Ivey
 Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 12:54 PM
 To: 'Declude.Virus@declude.com'
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] viruses getting through
 
 Greetings,
 
   Over the past 2 days, I have had some viruses get through my Declude
 Virus, with updated definitions.  Has anyone else seen this?  Also, when I
 receive an email and look at the headers of the email, I am not seeing
where
 Declude Virus scanned the message.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  I
am
 running version 1.82.
 
 Thanks,
 Daniel
 
 ===
 Daniel Ivey
 GCR Company / GCR Online
 Voice:  434 - 570 - 1765
 Fax:434 - 572 - 1981
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RE: [Declude.Virus] System resources

2005-06-03 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)








Welcome Bill.





John T

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-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Billman
Sent: Friday, June 03,
 2005 1:25 PM
To: Declude.Jun[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] System
resources



Hello Everyone,



I would like to introduce myself and say hello to
everyone. Im new to Declude, having just joined last week. Im
very excited about working for Declude and looking forward to working with you
all.



We have uncovered an intermittent issue with Declude and
IMail 8.2. Basically, system resources are consumed until the system will
no longer run. I want you to know that we are aware of the
situation. We are working on a solution to this problem now and hope to
have it solved in the near future. When ready we will conduct a limited
beta program. If all goes well we will provide the solution in an interim
release. I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused and thank
you for your patience.



This is my first post here but assure you that it will not
be my last.



All the best,

Bill



Bill Billman

Director of Engineering

Declude - internet security software

978.499.2933 office

603.930.4886 mobile

978.477.8930 fax

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

www.declude.com













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Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.5.2 - Release Date: 6/3/2005
 

RE: [Declude.Virus] BitDefender updates

2005-06-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I have verified by watching the files on my server and contacting
BitDefender support that on the Free version you must be logged into the
computer for the updates to occur.

:(

John T
eServices For You

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 On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists)
 Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:44 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] BitDefender updates
 
 So far, it appears that the updates are only take place when some one is
 actually logged in. In the last 4 days, the only time I have seen the
 modified date on the updated files was when I was logged in. I saw no
 changes in modified date when I was not logged in.
 
 John T
 eServices For You
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists)
  Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 4:20 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] BitDefender updates
 
  There updater is there, but like Jerry questioned does it require a user
 to
  be logged in?
 
  John T
  eServices For You
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   On Behalf Of Jerry Murdock
   Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 7:11 AM
   To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
   Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] BitDefender updates
  
   Have to admit this has been on my list of things to investigate as
well.
  
   The auto-update is there, but looks to require the console logged in -
   but have to admit I haven't looked hard.
  
   Any luck running the update as a service or via command line?
  
   Jerry
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman
   Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:52 PM
   To: John Tolmachoff (Lists)
   Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] BitDefender updates
  
Since it appears that the free version of BitDefender works with
Declude, how do you go about doing updates, as it appears there is
no
auto update for the free version.
  
   There's  a nice auto-updater in MY free version. :) Maybe you have the
   wrong download. . . .
  
   --Sandy
  
  
   
   Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
   Broadleaf Systems, a division of
   Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
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RE: [Declude.Virus] .EML file syntax

2005-06-01 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Title: Message









And the answer is no you can not use
BCC, or even CC. Some one has asked before and Scott answered with the
technical explanation which I do not remember what it was.





John T

eServices For You







-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Horne
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:54 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] .EML
file syntax



No one seems to actually be reading the
OP. He doesn't want to do anything with any BCC's in incoming mail.
All he wants to be able to do is BCC the virus notifications to himself.
Declude has a set of .eml files that it sends out when a virus is found
(postmaster, otherpostmaster, etc). In that file, you specify who gets the
email by putting in a TO: line at the top. He was simply asking if that
file could use a BCC: line as well.
































RE: [Declude.Virus] BitDefender updates

2005-06-01 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
So far, it appears that the updates are only take place when some one is
actually logged in. In the last 4 days, the only time I have seen the
modified date on the updated files was when I was logged in. I saw no
changes in modified date when I was not logged in.

John T
eServices For You


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists)
 Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 4:20 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] BitDefender updates
 
 There updater is there, but like Jerry questioned does it require a user
to
 be logged in?
 
 John T
 eServices For You
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Jerry Murdock
  Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 7:11 AM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] BitDefender updates
 
  Have to admit this has been on my list of things to investigate as well.
 
  The auto-update is there, but looks to require the console logged in -
  but have to admit I haven't looked hard.
 
  Any luck running the update as a service or via command line?
 
  Jerry
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman
  Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:52 PM
  To: John Tolmachoff (Lists)
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] BitDefender updates
 
   Since it appears that the free version of BitDefender works with
   Declude, how do you go about doing updates, as it appears there is no
   auto update for the free version.
 
  There's  a nice auto-updater in MY free version. :) Maybe you have the
  wrong download. . . .
 
  --Sandy
 
 
  
  Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
  Broadleaf Systems, a division of
  Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS

2005-06-01 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)









ANYWAYS, what would be the comment from
Declude on this issue?





John T

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-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005
4:43 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus]
EXITSCANONVIRUS





Sounds good to me. I tend to think of both virus
and spam detection in the same breath, since I think they're stronger together
than separate... but you certainly have a valid point about moving code to
Junkmail...and it would seem more useful there as well.











I haven't seen the false positives you've seen with
the Outlook Boundary Space Gap vulnerability, but it may be due to a variation
in customer base. I'll check the logs and let you know what we've seen
over a similar timeframe.











Happy Memorial Day weekend! Don't forget to
spend some time with the fam.






Darin.

















- Original Message - 



From: Matt 





To: Declude.Virus@declude.com






Sent: Sunday, May 29,
 2005 5:35 PM





Subject: Re:
[Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS











Darin,

My list was really only in respect to my feelings on Declude Virus and not
JunkMail. In this perspective of both however, maybe a modification where
#2 includes the potential of adding it as a test to JunkMail if it would be
beneficial, and a clarification on #3 like so:

1) Active Vulnerabilities
- Default to ON, and patch known exceptions that could be triggered by standard
E-mail clients. I would expect that such things would stay in this
category for at least a year following a patch being released for the affected
E-mail clients.

2) Inactive Vulnerabilities -
Default to OFF, don't necessarily patch issues when found (judgment
call). Add code to Declude JunkMail if useful for blocking spam.
I would expect that this category would include things that were between 1 and
3 years following a patch being issued for the affected E-mail clients.

3) Removal - Remove the code from
the Declude
Virus part of the executable. Depending on the
conditions related to the vulnerability; i.e. commonality in exploit, potential
for false positives, seriousness of flaw, etc., it would be prudent to remove
the code that detects such things after 2 or more years. Note that some
of these vulnerabilities have never been actively exploited by viruses.
Being conservative about leaving the code in for long periods I think is fine
because they would give people peace of mind and choice, but there is always
going to be a legitimate extent to which being conservative about things reach.

I think this reflects what you have said, and in
essence this is what I was indicating in the paragraph that followed.

I would definitely like to see the Outlook CR Vulnerability added to Declude
JunkMail as a scoreable test since it does hit on a good deal of spam, but I
won't use it in Declude Virus since I can only chose to block or pass and it
has daily issues with false positives for my customer base.

Other present vulnerabilities might not justify keeping the code however.
The Outlook Boundary Space Gap vulnerability trapped a total of 8 messages that
weren't otherwise detected as viruses on my system in a two week period of
time, covering over 1 million scanned messages. Of these 8 messages, all
8 were legitimate personal E-mails generated by Microsoft's own E-mail
clients. I think we could agree that if this is the long-term trend, this
code would be best removed or fixed instead of being added to JunkMail.

Alternatively, if this is still a threat with this one vulnerability (I don't
know), then the detection should be fixed. The false positives were all
the result of an error in Declude where the following header was properly
'folded', but Declude seemingly experienced an error in de-folding the headers
which led it to believe that there were spaces within the boundary. The 4
spaces at the beginning of the second line in this case is part of proper
header folding

Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=
 _=_NextPart_001_01C55D5F.F2B051DD

This vulnerability is designed to detect spaces or
tabs within message boundaries, and apparently could be exploited to package
attachments which Outlook clients would read. The above example is not an
example of exploitable code.

RFC 2912 - http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2912.html

3.1 Whitespace and folding long headers In some circumstances, media feature expressions can be very long. According to A Syntax for Describing Media Feature Sets [1], whitespace is allowed between lexical elements of a media feature _expression_. Further, RFC822/MIME [4,5] allows folding of long headers at points where whitespace appears to avoid line length restrictions. Therefore, it is recommended that whitespace is included as permitted, especially in long media feature expressions, to facilitate the folding of headers by agents that do not otherwise understand the syntax of this field.

For this to 

[Declude.Virus] New virus out?

2005-05-31 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
One of the servers I manage is getting hit with lots of messages being
caught with banned exe within zip.

They are coming from different IPs

John T
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New virus out?

2005-05-31 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Various named zip files. The D*.smd file is 26KB in length. No subject line.
Varing IP addresses and apparent forged from address. Blank HTML body.

John T
eServices For You


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 8:22 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] New virus out?
 
 John,
 
 What do the filenames appear to be - any pattern either filename, subject,
 body content etc?
 
 Darrell
 
 John Tolmachoff (Lists) writes:
 
  One of the servers I manage is getting hit with lots of messages being
  caught with banned exe within zip.
 
  They are coming from different IPs
 
  John T
  eServices For You
 
 
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 Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration,
MRTG
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RE: [Declude.Virus] MS05-16 Exploit

2005-05-31 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Since I am pressed for time and am presently unable to completely digest
what the vulnerability is and how to stop it, how can we configure our
Declude installs to protect/find/stop these messages?

John T
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
 Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 11:30 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] MS05-16 Exploit
 
 Hi,
 
 Enclosed a notice for the MS05-16 Exploit.
 
 For the record:
 I'm actually in favor of using STRICT interpretation of vulnerabilities -
no
 matter how seldom one might actually occur.  Whether a violation of
 standards is due to an actual virus - or just a poor mass-mailer
 application, I gladly use the reason of vulnerability of a potential
virus
 to reject these messages early.
 
 As far as some features suggested here:
 
 - I do agree that it might be helpful for some people not to scan for
 viruses, if a vulnerability is found (to conserve CPU).
 
 - I do agree that there is little reason (other than statistics) to run
the
 second scanner after the first scanner already found a virus.
 
 - I do agree that it is desirable for some people, if there was an option
 that would delete vulnerabilities rather than isolate them in the Virus
 folder.
 
 - I do NOT agree that Declude should NOT detect certain vulerabilities,
just
 because they only occur very rarely.
 
 
 Best Regards
 Andy Schmidt
 
 Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
 Fax:+1 201 934-9206
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Nick FitzGerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 9:31 AM
  To: Bugtraq@securityfocus.com
  Subject: Spam exploiting MS05-016
 
 
 Yesterday at least two of my spam-traps received the following message
 (I've elided the MIME boundary values just in case...):
 
Subject: We make a business offer to you
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: multipart/mixed;
boundary=[...]
 
[...]
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 
Hello!  It is not spam, so don't delete this message.
We have a business offer to you.
Read our offer.
You can increase the business in 1,5 times.
We hope you do not miss this information.
 
 
Best regards, Keith
 
[...]
Content-type: application/octet-stream;
name=agreement.zip
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment;
filename=agreement.zip
 
encoded ZIP file data
 
 There are a few trivial differences between the messages to the
 different addresses I checked, so don't anyone try to turn the above
 into a totally literal filtering rule...
 
 Anyway, the agreement.zip attachment held only one file, apparently
 called agreement.txt, but on closer inspection it turned out the file
 was called agreement.txt  where the apparent trailing space was
 actually a 0xFF character.  This pseudo-TXT file was, in fact, an
 OLE2 format file (originally a Word document file) with the OLE2 Root
 Entry CLSID set to that of the Microsoft HTML Application Host (MSHTA).
 This was all done as per the description in the iDEFENSE advisory
 announcing this vulnerability:
 
http://www.idefense.com/application/poi/display?id=231type=vulns
 
 This pseudo-TXT file is an example of what is produced by the PoC
 generator posted to Bugtraq.  Oddly, that message is not archived in
 SecurityFocus' own mailing list archives, but its PoC code is listed
 with the vulnerability's BID entry:
 
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/13132/info/
 
 That PoC may be identified from the comment at the top of its code:
 
MS05-016 POC
Made By ZwelL
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2005.4.13
 
 Anyway, the agreement.txt  file contained a script to write a text
 file with commands and responses for use with the Windows ftp client
 via its -s option and further commands to run ftp with those scripted
 
 commands and then to run the executable that ftp script would cause to
 be downloaded from a Russian web site.  At the time of writing, that
 site is still up and the executable that is downloaded (a backdoor) is
 the same one that was there when the spam was first seen.
 
 If you haven't installed the MS05-016 Windows Shell patch yet:
 
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms05-016.mspx
 
 or at least taken reasonable precautions to defang possible
 exploitation of this vulnerability (particularly through MSHTA), it
 would be  advisable to do so now.  When initially discovered, only two
 of more than 20 tested virus scanning engines detected the exploit in
 agreement.txt .  Since alerting the antivirus developer community of
 the field discovery of this exploit, a couple more big name scanners
 have added a degree of detection for this exploit, and I expect that
 number to grow as the new week dawns and new updates are pushed to
 customers.
 
 
 --
 Nick FitzGerald
 Computer Virus 

RE: [Declude.Virus] MS05-16 Exploit

2005-05-31 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Title: Message









Putting in 2 new drives was the easy
part.



Recreating 43 websites in IIS because
the backup drive on the backup server departed for parts unknown the week
before and proceeded with the tape drive (Onstream) finally giving out a month
ago leaving my backup solution in shambles is what has been fun. Fortunately,
both the actual website data drives and their separate backups on zip disks are
fine.



When it rains it pours. I must be in Southern California.



Needless to say, I am revamping my
backup and disaster recovery solutions.





John T

eServices For You







-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005
2:42 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus]
MS05-16 Exploit









Ok, John, get back to fixing that mirrored
drive set.











Andrew 8)














RE: [Declude.Virus] .EML file syntax

2005-05-31 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Title: Message








Not unless it has been introduced as a
feature in 2.x.





John T

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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005
6:27 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] .EML file
syntax



Hi,



I know that in an .EML file you can have a
TO: %ALLRECIPS% (or whoever you want) but can you also put in a CC or
better yet a BCC? I have not found anything in the 2.0.6 manual.





Thanx








Goran Jovanovic


The LAN Shoppe












RE: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS

2005-05-30 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)









Off the topic, but it interrupted my
work on my mail server.



Any one ever loose both mirrored OS
drives at the same time?



FUN FUN FUN



NOT!



At least Ghost is able to read the
master.





John T

eServices For You







-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005
4:59 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus]
EXITSCANONVIRUS



Thanks! The grass is cut and the friends are
already on the way over with beer and stuff to burn :)

Matt


Darin Cox wrote: 



Sounds good to me. I tend to think of both
virus and spam detection in the same breath, since I think they're stronger
together than separate... but you certainly have a valid point about moving
code to Junkmail...and it would seem more useful there as well.











I haven't seen the false positives you've seen with
the Outlook Boundary Space Gap vulnerability, but it may be due to a variation
in customer base. I'll check the logs and let you know what we've seen
over a similar timeframe.











Happy Memorial Day weekend! Don't forget to
spend some time with the fam.






Darin.

















- Original Message - 



From: Matt 





To: Declude.Virus@declude.com






Sent: Sunday, May 29,
 2005 5:35 PM





Subject: Re:
[Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS











Darin,

My list was really only in respect to my feelings on Declude Virus and not
JunkMail. In this perspective of both however, maybe a modification where
#2 includes the potential of adding it as a test to JunkMail if it would be
beneficial, and a clarification on #3 like so:

1) Active Vulnerabilities
- Default to ON, and patch known exceptions that could be triggered by standard
E-mail clients. I would expect that such things would stay in this
category for at least a year following a patch being released for the affected
E-mail clients.

2) Inactive Vulnerabilities -
Default to OFF, don't necessarily patch issues when found (judgment
call). Add code to Declude JunkMail if useful for blocking spam.
I would expect that this category would include things that were between 1 and
3 years following a patch being issued for the affected E-mail clients.

3) Removal - Remove the code from
the Declude
Virus part of the executable. Depending on the
conditions related to the vulnerability; i.e. commonality in exploit, potential
for false positives, seriousness of flaw, etc., it would be prudent to remove
the code that detects such things after 2 or more years. Note that some
of these vulnerabilities have never been actively exploited by viruses.
Being conservative about leaving the code in for long periods I think is fine
because they would give people peace of mind and choice, but there is always
going to be a legitimate extent to which being conservative about things reach.

I think this reflects what you have said, and in
essence this is what I was indicating in the paragraph that followed.

I would definitely like to see the Outlook CR Vulnerability added to Declude
JunkMail as a scoreable test since it does hit on a good deal of spam, but I
won't use it in Declude Virus since I can only chose to block or pass and it
has daily issues with false positives for my customer base.

Other present vulnerabilities might not justify keeping the code however.
The Outlook Boundary Space Gap vulnerability trapped a total of 8 messages that
weren't otherwise detected as viruses on my system in a two week period of
time, covering over 1 million scanned messages. Of these 8 messages, all
8 were legitimate personal E-mails generated by Microsoft's own E-mail
clients. I think we could agree that if this is the long-term trend, this
code would be best removed or fixed instead of being added to JunkMail.

Alternatively, if this is still a threat with this one vulnerability (I don't
know), then the detection should be fixed. The false positives were all
the result of an error in Declude where the following header was properly
'folded', but Declude seemingly experienced an error in de-folding the headers
which led it to believe that there were spaces within the boundary. The 4
spaces at the beginning of the second line in this case is part of proper header
folding

Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=
 _=_NextPart_001_01C55D5F.F2B051DD

This vulnerability is designed to detect spaces or
tabs within message boundaries, and apparently could be exploited to package
attachments which Outlook clients would read. The above example is not an
example of exploitable code.

RFC 2912 - http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2912.html

3.1 Whitespace and folding long headers In some circumstances, media feature expressions can be very long. According to A Syntax for Describing Media Feature Sets [1], whitespace is allowed between lexical elements of a media feature _expression_. Further, RFC822/MIME [4,5] allows folding of long headers at points where whitespace appears to avoid line 

RE: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS

2005-05-30 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)









Windows. Power went out, for some reason
the UPS went into shutdown mode, it appears some thing on the server hung
preventing it from shutting down before the UPS shutdown timer expired, the rest
is history. Turns out the Ghost image is inconsistent, so I am rebuilding the
OS from the ground, will try to do a restore from a backup I made of the
extracted OS partition in Ghost, not sure how that is going to go, but if not
then will have to recreate in IIS 47 web sites. Data for the sites is fine, as
that was on a pair of separate SCSI drives.



So much for getting caught up on other
work.





John T

eServices For You







-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005
6:43 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus]
EXITSCANONVIRUS





Oh man...I feel your pain! Happened
tous mid-April. Fortunately it was just after midnight on a Friday, so we
had everything back up before morning and no one noticed the interruption in
service.











Was it Windows mirroring or hardware
level?






Darin.

















- Original Message - 



From: John
Tolmachoff (Lists) 





To: Declude.Virus@declude.com 





Sent: Monday, May 30,
 2005 3:30 AM





Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS











Off the topic, but it interrupted my
work on my mail server.



Any one ever loose both mirrored OS
drives at the same time?



FUN FUN FUN



NOT!



At least Ghost is able to read the
master.





John T

eServices For You





==










RE: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS

2005-05-30 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Title: Message









Oh, dont get me started on the ProLiant
350 with the all-in-one SCSIController/NIC/VGA card.



Why would any one even ever think to
sell a server with a monstrosity like that is beyond me.





John T

eServices For You







-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005
9:46 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus]
EXITSCANONVIRUS



Yep, that same happened with their
hardware raid-1 on an ML 530 (a pretty up-scale server). Had one bad drive
(apparently) and the controller managed to wipe out the complete string.
The other controller channel was unaffected.



I'm pretty certain, I've see this happen
twice (the second time I got lucky.)



Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax: +1 201 934-9206 















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005
12:39 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus]
EXITSCANONVIRUS



Ouch.











We've periodically had problems with
Compaq (now HP) Proliant servers that have been mostly about the pre-failure
being too sensitive; it's now part of our best practice to keep up with driver
and ROM updates. This used to be difficult, but now HP has a ROM update
bootable ISO image we download, it detects and updates the ROMs on the
motherboard, the array cards, and the microcode on the hard drives. It's
called the Firmware Maintenance CD.











Andrew 8)





-Original
Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists)
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005
9:07 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus]
EXITSCANONVIRUS

Windows. Power went out, for some reason
the UPS went into shutdown mode, it appears some thing on the server hung
preventing it from shutting down before the UPS shutdown timer expired, the
rest is history. Turns out the Ghost image is inconsistent, so I am rebuilding
the OS from the ground, will try to do a restore from a backup I made of the
extracted OS partition in Ghost, not sure how that is going to go, but if not
then will have to recreate in IIS 47 web sites. Data for the sites is fine, as
that was on a pair of separate SCSI drives.



So much for getting caught up on other
work.





John T

eServices For You







-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005
6:43 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus]
EXITSCANONVIRUS





Oh man...I feel your pain!
Happened tous mid-April. Fortunately it was just after midnight on a Friday, so we
had everything back up before morning and no one noticed the interruption in
service.











Was it Windows mirroring or hardware
level?






Darin.

















- Original Message - 



From: John
Tolmachoff (Lists) 





To: Declude.Virus@declude.com 





Sent: Monday, May 30,
 2005 3:30 AM





Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS











Off the topic, but it interrupted my
work on my mail server.



Any one ever loose both mirrored OS
drives at the same time?



FUN FUN FUN



NOT!



At least Ghost is able to read the
master.





John T

eServices For You





==














RE: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS

2005-05-28 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Well, here is an example of what I was hoping not to see.

05/27/2005 23:35:14 Q112105DF2AB2 Vulnerability flags = 0
05/27/2005 23:35:14 Q112105DF2AB2 Outlook 'CR' vulnerability [Subject:
H] in line 15
05/27/2005 23:35:15 Q112105DF2AB2 Virus scanner 1 reports exit code of 0
05/27/2005 23:35:15 Q112105DF2AB2 File(s) are INFECTED [[Outlook 'CR'
Vulnerability]: 0]
05/27/2005 23:35:36 Q112105DF2AB2 Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS 
05/27/2005 23:35:36 Q112105DF2AB2 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [incoming from x.x.x.x]
05/27/2005 23:35:36 Q112105DF2AB2 Subject: How is Rebecca doing?

In this case, the subject line is the last line for the message in the
Declude Virus log in HIGH and it apparently shows that scanners 2  3 were
not called. If it finds a vulnerability, it still should fire the scanners
to see if one of them finds an actual virus.

John T
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ]
 Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 7:21 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS
 
 John,
 
 There is a processing loop wherein all the scanners are called in
 succession. It is independent of vulnerability checking. This directive
 merely tells Declude to break out of the external virus scanner execution
 loop. If you use this directive to exit the scanning loop on virus
detection
 and (1) you have 5 scanners listed in your cfg file and (2) a virus is
 detected by the first scanner listed, then the effect is exactly the same
in
 processing as if you had a single scanner listed and a virus were detected
 by that single scanner.
 
 David Franco-Rocha
 Declude Technical Support
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 2:50 AM
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS
 
 
 A question about this new feature.
 
 Am I correct in thinking that as soon as a scanner reports a virus, the
next
 scanner(s) in line will not be called and the message will be processed
 accordingly, and that it will not be affected by Declude first finding a
 banned attachment before having it scanned by a scanner?
 
 John T
 eServices For You
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS

2005-05-28 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I agree with Darrell. If it contains a virus, I want it to be marked as a
virus. If it does not contain a virus, then if it contains a vulnerability
or banned extension then mark as such.

An example is that some Sober viruses also contain vulnerability. Well, I
want it labeled as a virus not vulnerability.

John T
eServices For You

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 10:10 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS
 
 My thoughts are this - a virus is a virus and a vulnerability is a
 vulnerability.  My expectation is that if a virus is detected than the
other
 scanners will not be called.  However, if a vulnerability is detected the
 scanners will execute until such time a virus is found.
 
 Maybe two switches - EXITSCANONVULNERABILITY...
 
 However, on the grander scale of things if nothing changed on this I would
 still use EXITSCANONVIRUS as long as it observes the various delivery
 options on vulnerabilities.
 
 Darrell
 
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 - Original Message -
 From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 12:49 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS
 
 
 John, can you expand on that?
 
 In my implementation, there is no difference in message treatment if a
 vulnerability or virus is detected.  Therefore, I am happy to stop the
 virus scanning if a vulnerability is detected.  That is, as long as
 ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM is still respected.
 
 Of course, I've already found that these two had too many false
 positives for the safety they afford, so I've turned them off:
 
 BANPARTIAL OFF
 BANCRVIRUSES OFF
 
 which leaves me with
 
 BANCLSID ON
 
 which has never been triggered.
 
 Andrew 8)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
 (Lists)
 Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 12:34 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS
 
 
 Well, here is an example of what I was hoping not to see.
 
 05/27/2005 23:35:14 Q112105DF2AB2 Vulnerability flags = 0 05/27/2005
 23:35:14 Q112105DF2AB2 Outlook 'CR' vulnerability [Subject: H] in
 line 15 05/27/2005 23:35:15 Q112105DF2AB2 Virus scanner 1 reports
 exit code of 0 05/27/2005 23:35:15 Q112105DF2AB2 File(s) are
 INFECTED [[Outlook 'CR'
 Vulnerability]: 0]
 05/27/2005 23:35:36 Q112105DF2AB2 Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS
 05/27/2005 23:35:36 Q112105DF2AB2 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [incoming from x.x.x.x] 05/27/2005
 23:35:36 Q112105DF2AB2 Subject: How is Rebecca doing?
 
 In this case, the subject line is the last line for the message in the
 Declude Virus log in HIGH and it apparently shows that scanners 2  3
 were not called. If it finds a vulnerability, it still should fire the
 scanners to see if one of them finds an actual virus.
 
 John T
 eServices For You
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ]
  Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 7:21 AM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS
 
  John,
 
  There is a processing loop wherein all the scanners are called in
  succession. It is independent of vulnerability checking. This
  directive merely tells Declude to break out of the external virus
  scanner execution loop. If you use this directive to exit the scanning
 
  loop on virus
 detection
  and (1) you have 5 scanners listed in your cfg file and (2) a virus is
 
  detected by the first scanner listed, then the effect is exactly the
  same
 in
  processing as if you had a single scanner listed and a virus were
  detected by that single scanner.
 
  David Franco-Rocha
  Declude Technical Support
 
  - Original Message -
  From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 2:50 AM
  Subject: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS
 
 
  A question about this new feature.
 
  Am I correct in thinking that as soon as a scanner reports a virus,
  the
 next
  scanner(s) in line will not be called and the message will be
  processed accordingly, and that it will not be affected by Declude
  first finding a banned attachment before having it scanned by a
  scanner?
 
  John T
  eServices For You
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS

2005-05-28 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
It appears to be stopping when it finds a vulnerability and does not get
scanned for virus.

John T
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
 Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 5:58 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS
 
 ... that's reasonable, John.
 
 How does it work up to now?  If a vulnerability and a virus are
 detected, which gets reported?
 
 Andrew 8)
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
 (Lists)
 Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 5:17 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS
 
 
 I agree with Darrell. If it contains a virus, I want it to be marked as
 a virus. If it does not contain a virus, then if it contains a
 vulnerability or banned extension then mark as such.
 
 An example is that some Sober viruses also contain vulnerability. Well,
 I want it labeled as a virus not vulnerability.
 
 John T
 eServices For You
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 10:10 AM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS
 
  My thoughts are this - a virus is a virus and a vulnerability is a
  vulnerability.  My expectation is that if a virus is detected than the
 other
  scanners will not be called.  However, if a vulnerability is detected
  the scanners will execute until such time a virus is found.
 
  Maybe two switches - EXITSCANONVULNERABILITY...
 
  However, on the grander scale of things if nothing changed on this I
  would still use EXITSCANONVIRUS as long as it observes the various
  delivery options on vulnerabilities.
 
  Darrell
 
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  http://www.invariantsystems.com
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 12:49 PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS
 
 
  John, can you expand on that?
 
  In my implementation, there is no difference in message treatment if a
 
  vulnerability or virus is detected.  Therefore, I am happy to stop the
 
  virus scanning if a vulnerability is detected.  That is, as long as
  ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM is still respected.
 
  Of course, I've already found that these two had too many false
  positives for the safety they afford, so I've turned them off:
 
  BANPARTIAL OFF
  BANCRVIRUSES OFF
 
  which leaves me with
 
  BANCLSID ON
 
  which has never been triggered.
 
  Andrew 8)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
  (Lists)
  Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 12:34 AM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS
 
 
  Well, here is an example of what I was hoping not to see.
 
  05/27/2005 23:35:14 Q112105DF2AB2 Vulnerability flags = 0
  05/27/2005 23:35:14 Q112105DF2AB2 Outlook 'CR' vulnerability
  [Subject: H] in line 15 05/27/2005 23:35:15 Q112105DF2AB2 Virus
  scanner 1 reports exit code of 0 05/27/2005 23:35:15 Q112105DF2AB2
 
  File(s) are INFECTED [[Outlook 'CR'
  Vulnerability]: 0]
  05/27/2005 23:35:36 Q112105DF2AB2 Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS
  05/27/2005 23:35:36 Q112105DF2AB2 From:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [incoming from x.x.x.x] 05/27/2005
  23:35:36 Q112105DF2AB2 Subject: How is Rebecca doing?
 
  In this case, the subject line is the last line for the message in the
 
  Declude Virus log in HIGH and it apparently shows that scanners 2  3
  were not called. If it finds a vulnerability, it still should fire the
 
  scanners to see if one of them finds an actual virus.
 
  John T
  eServices For You
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ]
   Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 7:21 AM
   To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
   Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS
  
   John,
  
   There is a processing loop wherein all the scanners are called in
   succession. It is independent of vulnerability checking. This
   directive merely tells Declude to break out of the external virus
   scanner execution loop. If you use this directive to exit the
   scanning
 
   loop on virus
  detection
   and (1) you have 5 scanners listed in your cfg file and (2) a virus
   is
 
   detected by the first scanner listed, then the effect is exactly the
 
   same
  in
   processing as if you had a single scanner listed and a virus were
   detected by that single scanner.
  
   David Franco-Rocha
   Declude Technical Support
  
   - Original Message -
   From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL

[Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS

2005-05-27 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
A question about this new feature. 

Am I correct in thinking that as soon as a scanner reports a virus, the next
scanner(s) in line will not be called and the message will be processed
accordingly, and that it will not be affected by Declude first finding a
banned attachment before having it scanned by a scanner?

John T
eServices For You



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RE: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS

2005-05-27 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Thanks. Is this a configurable meaning we have to have either ON or OFF?

John T
eServices For You

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ]
 Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 7:21 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS
 
 John,
 
 There is a processing loop wherein all the scanners are called in
 succession. It is independent of vulnerability checking. This directive
 merely tells Declude to break out of the external virus scanner execution
 loop. If you use this directive to exit the scanning loop on virus
detection
 and (1) you have 5 scanners listed in your cfg file and (2) a virus is
 detected by the first scanner listed, then the effect is exactly the same
in
 processing as if you had a single scanner listed and a virus were detected
 by that single scanner.
 
 David Franco-Rocha
 Declude Technical Support
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 2:50 AM
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS
 
 
 A question about this new feature.
 
 Am I correct in thinking that as soon as a scanner reports a virus, the
next
 scanner(s) in line will not be called and the message will be processed
 accordingly, and that it will not be affected by Declude first finding a
 banned attachment before having it scanned by a scanner?
 
 John T
 eServices For You
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS

2005-05-27 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Thanks.

John T
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 On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ]
 Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 8:33 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS
 
 John,
 
 This setting defaults to OFF, which is the way it has been historically.
The
 only setting it actually looks for is ON. If you omit the directive
 completely from your virus.cfg file, it will be OFF.
 
 Please note that the actual directive is EXITSCANONVIRUSDETECT ON
 
 David Franco-Rocha
 Declude Technical Support
 
 - Original Message -
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 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 11:17 AM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS
 
 
 Thanks. Is this a configurable meaning we have to have either ON or OFF?
 
 John T
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  Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 7:21 AM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS
 
  John,
 
  There is a processing loop wherein all the scanners are called in
  succession. It is independent of vulnerability checking. This directive
  merely tells Declude to break out of the external virus scanner
execution
  loop. If you use this directive to exit the scanning loop on virus
 detection
  and (1) you have 5 scanners listed in your cfg file and (2) a virus is
  detected by the first scanner listed, then the effect is exactly the
same
 in
  processing as if you had a single scanner listed and a virus were
detected
  by that single scanner.
 
  David Franco-Rocha
  Declude Technical Support
 
  - Original Message -
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  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 2:50 AM
  Subject: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS
 
 
  A question about this new feature.
 
  Am I correct in thinking that as soon as a scanner reports a virus, the
 next
  scanner(s) in line will not be called and the message will be processed
  accordingly, and that it will not be affected by Declude first finding a
  banned attachment before having it scanned by a scanner?
 
  John T
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RE: [Declude.Virus] BitDefender updates

2005-05-27 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
There updater is there, but like Jerry questioned does it require a user to
be logged in?

John T
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 On Behalf Of Jerry Murdock
 Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 7:11 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] BitDefender updates
 
 Have to admit this has been on my list of things to investigate as well.
 
 The auto-update is there, but looks to require the console logged in -
 but have to admit I haven't looked hard.
 
 Any luck running the update as a service or via command line?
 
 Jerry
 
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 Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:52 PM
 To: John Tolmachoff (Lists)
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] BitDefender updates
 
  Since it appears that the free version of BitDefender works with
  Declude, how do you go about doing updates, as it appears there is no
  auto update for the free version.
 
 There's  a nice auto-updater in MY free version. :) Maybe you have the
 wrong download. . . .
 
 --Sandy
 
 
 
 Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
 Broadleaf Systems, a division of
 Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
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RE: [Declude.Virus] BANZIPEXTS

2005-05-26 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)








It will only ban those listed with
BANEXT, unless you are also using BANEXT ZIP.





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Sent: Thursday, May
 26, 2005 1:02 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus]
BANZIPEXTS



If you are using BANZIPEXTS ON will it
only stop zip files that match names in BANEXT or will it stop all zip files.



Kyle










[Declude.Virus] BitDefender updates

2005-05-26 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Since it appears that the free version of BitDefender works with Declude,
how do you go about doing updates, as it appears there is no auto update for
the free version.

Also, is any one using the standard version and if so is the command line
the same?

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[Declude.Virus] Sober.o and Yahoo

2005-05-04 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Yahoo is accepting e-mail to user infected with the Sober.o virus and then
sending a bounce to the forged address saying the message can not be
delivered for user over quota.

Now, how funny is that?

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[Declude.Virus] I hate Sober.o

2005-05-04 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
One of the addresses it is using as the forged from address is the
postmaster address of one of my major clients.

I have received over 50 failure to deliver notices to that address from
all kinds of domains including AOL since noon today.

That means there are still way to many e-mail servers out there not using
Declude Virus.

Gr

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RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-03 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit
  
  
  Question: Have you all running the latest v3.16b ?
  
  I can't see any appearance of HTML/ObjData in the entire current
  logfile, but I've still running 3.16a
  
  Markus
  
  
  
  
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  Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit
  
  It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last hour.
  Now, a lot of outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged by F-Prot as
  having the HTML object exploit. Running the file on
  www.virustotal.com shows clean.
  
  Any one else seeing problems?
  
  For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off F-Prot scanning
  relying on AVG.
  
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[Declude.Virus] SKIPIFFILE

2005-05-03 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Is there a SKIPIFFILE similar to SKIPIFEXT for use in the BANNotify.eml
file?

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[Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last hour. Now, a lot
of outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged  by F-Prot as having the HTML
object exploit. Running the file on www.virustotal.com shows clean.

Any one else seeing problems?

For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off F-Prot scanning relying on
AVG.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I saw a big bunch about 2 hours ago that were stopped by banned zip
extensions. 

John T
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Chuck Schick
 Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:58 AM
 To: Declude. Virus
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...
 
 I am seeing several files getting through that appear to have viruses
 attached as zip files.  I am running Declude with F-Prot.  We ban
encrypted
 zips and I have error code 8 included.  Anyone else seeing this behavior?
 Here is part of the log.
 
 
 05/02/2005 10:34:20 Q568a382 MIME file: account_info-text.zip [base64;
 Length=53728 Checksum=5837399]
 05/02/2005 10:34:21 Q568a382 Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2 53979]
 
 Chuck Schick
 Warp 8, Inc.
 (303)-421-5140
 www.warp8.com
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit

2005-05-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)









I saw it start at about 10:00 AM PDT.



Some one please contact F-Prot. I would
but I am at a client trying to recover data from a failed hard drive. Fun.





John T

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Don Hickey
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005
11:14 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus]
F-Prot and HTML object exploit





I am having the same problems here. It all started
around 12:30 Central time...











Don







- Original Message - 





From: Matt 





To: Declude.Virus@declude.com






Sent: Monday, May 02,
 2005 12:56 PM





Subject: Re:
[Declude.Virus] F-Prot and HTML object exploit









John,

Thanks a bunch for pointing this out. I have found two of these in the
last hour that are tagging what appears to be legitimate E-mail, bother from
the same person. This is gatewayed E-mail:

05/02/2005 13:44:21 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 MIME file: [text/html][quoted-printable; Length=6657 Checksum=558425]
 05/02/2005 13:44:21 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Found potentially dangerous stuff in F:\D66F5EF3A00E815E6.vir\0.!
 05/02/2005 13:44:21 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 MIME file: image001.jpg [base64;
Length=11748 Checksum=1305364]
 05/02/2005 13:44:21 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 MIME file: image002.gif [base64;
Length=2184 Checksum=243507]
 05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Scanner 1: Virus=HTML/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Attachment=[HTML segment] [0] O
 05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 File(s) are INFECTED [HTML/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
0]
 05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Deleting file with virus
 05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Deleting E-mail with virus!
 05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS [MIME: 4
21877]
 05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [outgoing from
208.7.179.200]
 05/02/2005 13:44:22 Q66F5EF3A00E815E6 Subject: RE: NCC Docket 2005 - 2

It looks like turning F-Prot off might be a good idea,
or at least configuring it to not delete viruses.

Matt





John Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote: 

It appears that something has updated on F-Prot in the last hour. Now, a lotof outbound HTML e-mails are being flagged by F-Prot as having the HTMLobject exploit. Running the file on www.virustotal.com shows clean.Any one else seeing problems?For now, as I am at a client, I have turned off F-Prot scanning relying onAVG.John TeServices For You---This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype unsubscribe Declude.Virus. The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. 





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RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...

2005-05-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Mine has the 01:32 PM time stamp and the last update time was at 10:00 AM
which is after when I saw the problem, so I would have to say the 01:32 time
stamp is the problem one.

John T
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
 Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:38 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...
 
 F-Prot may have already fixed their pattern file.  My current sign.def
 is timestamped:
 
 05/02/2005  03:53 AM
 
 and checking their website and downloading the current version manually
 shows that the current version is:
 
 05/02/2005  01:32 PM
 
 Can anybody with the issue confirm which pattern file they are using
 that has the problem?
 
 Andrew 8)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry
 Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:20 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...
 
 
 Yep, these are being detected by NAI (W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) and ClamAV
 (Worm.Sober.P), but not yet being detected by TrendMicro or F-Prot
 (although
 I have F-Prot updates disabled for now, until they get there problem
 with
 HTML/[EMAIL PROTECTED] fixed).
 
 Bill
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 From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:11 AM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...
 
 
 I saw a big bunch about 2 hours ago that were stopped by banned zip
 extensions.
 
  John T
  eServices For You
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Chuck Schick
  Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:58 AM
  To: Declude. Virus
  Subject: [Declude.Virus] Viruses appearing to be getting through...
 
  I am seeing several files getting through that appear to have viruses
 
  attached as zip files.  I am running Declude with F-Prot.  We ban
  encrypted
  zips and I have error code 8 included.  Anyone else seeing this
  behavior? Here is part of the log.
 
 
  05/02/2005 10:34:20 Q568a382 MIME file: account_info-text.zip
  [base64; Length=53728 Checksum=5837399] 05/02/2005 10:34:21 Q568a382
  Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2 53979]
 
  Chuck Schick
  Warp 8, Inc.
  (303)-421-5140
  www.warp8.com
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Adobe PDF embedded attachment

2005-04-26 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Is it possible in the first place for malicious or executable code to occur
in a PDF?

John T
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
 Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:40 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Adobe PDF embedded attachemt
 
 
  Although Adobe recommends enabling scanning all file types in
  order to scan a PDF (and ass/u/me'ing its embedded contents
  as well), an AV scanner is not currently going to be able to
  scan this encrypted content until the content has been
  rendered/unencrypted at the desktop.
 
 Is there any info from Adobe or any AV-company about the
ability/possibility
 to scan and detect such encrypted content.
 
 If there is any possibilty to detect encrypted PDFs I think declude should
 be prepared to add BANEXT ePDF to the config file before there will
appear
 the first worms...
 
 At this point maybe I can place also the feature request that we can block
 certain (archiving) file types if they have a small size and a suspicious
 file inside. For example all ZIP-files below 100 kB and any executable
file
 inside. This should help to block new virus variants until there are
 available appropriate signatures from the AV-companies. I'm not 100% sure
 but I can't imagine why someone should send a legit zip-file having a
small
 executable inside.
 
 Markus
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] How to check VIRUSCODEs

2005-04-21 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)









Encrypted zip containing an exe and zip
extension was changed.





John T

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-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:21 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] How
to check VIRUSCODEs



John,

If you don't mind sharing, what was the issue that you had last week with
F-Prot throwing a code 8 on legitimate E-mail? Or did I get that wrong?

Thanks,

Matt



John Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote: 

From my understanding is that code 8
means the file is suspect but does not exactly match a known pattern in the
definition file. It is not automatically flagged for encrypted zips.





John T

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 8:35 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] How
to check VIRUSCODEs



What you have means that a matching virus code was found for each
scanner. If a scanner throws a code besides one that you specify, it will
be logged in much the same way that the virus is shown. The following is
exactly what F-Prot will show when it throws a code of 8 and when you aren't
configured to tag that as a virus:

 04/20/2005 00:28:37 Qda6b06e0014e9ee2 Error 8
in virus scanner 1.

We're going on 5 or 6 days now where F-Prot has been throwing a Virus Code 8
for some newer Bagle variants, and it is starting to look more and more like
this is purposeful, though if so it would also be short-sighted. Maybe
someone should contact F-Prot and ask for an explanation and indicate that it
would be helpful not to mix the codes like this for known viruses.
Apparently Virus Code 8 can hit non-viruses, and I think it will throw that
code when it detects an encrypted zip of any sort, but I'm not certain about
that either. I would certainly prefer to not have to rely on Virus Code 8
in F-Prot because I don't want to be deleting E-mail that doesn't contain a
virus and where Declude offers better granularity (such as only banning
encrypted zips with a banned extension within it).

Has anyone contacted F-Prot?

Matt



Goran Jovanovic wrote: 

This
was originally a thread from the Junkmail list but I am moving it over to the
virus list.



 Check your virus log and you may see some code 8

 errors in it. Adding viruscode 8 will at least
stop them.



How do you see if there are any code 8s in the virus
log file. I use F-Prot and McAfee. My viruscodes for F-Prot are 3 and 6 and for
McAfee is only 13



An example of a virus



04/20/2005 05:03:10 Q1AB803D9008C6B32 MIME file: demo.exe [base64; Length=40800 Checksum=4318001]



04/20/2005 05:03:10 Q1AB803D9008C6B32 Banning file with exe extension [application/x-msdownload].



04/20/2005 05:03:10 Q1AB803D9008C6B32 Scanner 1: Virus= W32/Plexus.G Attachment=demo.exe [2] O



04/20/2005 05:03:10 Q1AB803D9008C6B32 Scanner 2: Virus= the MultiDropper-KR trojan !!! Attachment=demo.exe [2]
O



04/20/2005 05:03:10 Q1AB803D9008C6B32 File(s) are INFECTED [ W32/Plexus.G: 13]



04/20/2005 05:03:10 Q1AB803D9008C6B32 Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS [MIME: 2 40959]



04/20/2005 05:03:10 Q1AB803D9008C6B32 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [outgoing from 213.59.118.9]



04/20/2005 05:03:10 Q1AB803D9008C6B32 Subject: Greets! I offer you full base of accounts with passwords of mail
server yahoo.com. Here is archive with small part of it. You can see that all
information is real. If you want to buy full base, please reply me... 





The only thing that I see that resembles my viruscodes
is the line File(s) are INFECTED [ W32/Plexus.G: 13] and the 13
in this line is from McAfee (scanner2). I do not see any result from F-Prot
(scanner1). 



I am logging on high. Am I missing something here?





 Goran
Jovanovic

 The LAN
Shoppe







 -Original Message-

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:Declude.JunkMail-

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Tyler Jensen

 Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 8:22 PM

 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New Spam or
Virus!!

 

 I had something similar over the weekend.
Standard zip file. If you are

 using F-Prot you may want to add VirusCode 8 to
the config. This will stop

 them as Unknown Virus. Check your virus log and
you may see some code 8

 errors in it. Adding viruscode 8 will at least
stop them.

 

 Ouside of email NAV was calling it Trojan.Tooso.H
and F-Prot was calling

 it w32/mitglieder.c. I submitted my findings to
Declude support earlier in

 the week and spoke with a someone yesterday. Sent
the file to him and he

 said the AVG called it a Bagle of some sort.

 

 What is strange is outside of email, f-prot was
detecting it. But without

 viruscode 8, nothing.

 

 Tyler

 

 

 -- Original Message --

 From: Chuck Schick [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

 Date: Wed, 20

RE: [Declude.Virus] How to check VIRUSCODEs

2005-04-20 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)









From my understanding is that code 8
means the file is suspect but does not exactly match a known pattern in the
definition file. It is not automatically flagged for encrypted zips.





John T

eServices For You







-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 8:35 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] How
to check VIRUSCODEs



What you have means that a matching virus code was found for each
scanner. If a scanner throws a code besides one that you specify, it will
be logged in much the same way that the virus is shown. The following is
exactly what F-Prot will show when it throws a code of 8 and when you aren't
configured to tag that as a virus:

 04/20/2005 00:28:37 Qda6b06e0014e9ee2 Error 8
in virus scanner 1.

We're going on 5 or 6 days now where F-Prot has been throwing a Virus Code 8
for some newer Bagle variants, and it is starting to look more and more like
this is purposeful, though if so it would also be short-sighted. Maybe
someone should contact F-Prot and ask for an explanation and indicate that it
would be helpful not to mix the codes like this for known viruses.
Apparently Virus Code 8 can hit non-viruses, and I think it will throw that
code when it detects an encrypted zip of any sort, but I'm not certain about
that either. I would certainly prefer to not have to rely on Virus Code 8
in F-Prot because I don't want to be deleting E-mail that doesn't contain a
virus and where Declude offers better granularity (such as only banning encrypted
zips with a banned extension within it).

Has anyone contacted F-Prot?

Matt



Goran Jovanovic wrote: 

This
was originally a thread from the Junkmail list but I am moving it over to the
virus list.



 Check your virus log and you may see some code 8

 errors in it. Adding viruscode 8 will at least
stop them.



How do you see if there are any code 8s in the virus
log file. I use F-Prot and McAfee. My viruscodes for F-Prot are 3 and 6 and for
McAfee is only 13



An example of a virus



04/20/2005 05:03:10 Q1AB803D9008C6B32 MIME file: demo.exe [base64; Length=40800 Checksum=4318001]



04/20/2005 05:03:10 Q1AB803D9008C6B32 Banning file with exe extension [application/x-msdownload].



04/20/2005 05:03:10 Q1AB803D9008C6B32 Scanner 1: Virus= W32/Plexus.G Attachment=demo.exe [2] O



04/20/2005 05:03:10 Q1AB803D9008C6B32 Scanner 2: Virus= the MultiDropper-KR trojan !!! Attachment=demo.exe [2] O



04/20/2005 05:03:10 Q1AB803D9008C6B32 File(s) are INFECTED [ W32/Plexus.G: 13]



04/20/2005 05:03:10 Q1AB803D9008C6B32 Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS [MIME: 2 40959]



04/20/2005 05:03:10 Q1AB803D9008C6B32 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [outgoing from 213.59.118.9]



04/20/2005 05:03:10 Q1AB803D9008C6B32 Subject: Greets! I offer you full base of accounts with passwords of mail
server yahoo.com. Here is archive with small part of it. You can see that all
information is real. If you want to buy full base, please reply me... 





The only thing that I see that resembles my viruscodes
is the line File(s) are INFECTED [ W32/Plexus.G: 13] and the 13
in this line is from McAfee (scanner2). I do not see any result from F-Prot
(scanner1). 



I am logging on high. Am I missing something here?





 Goran
Jovanovic

 The LAN
Shoppe







 -Original Message-

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:Declude.JunkMail-

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Tyler Jensen

 Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 8:22 PM

 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New Spam or
Virus!!

 

 I had something similar over the weekend.
Standard zip file. If you are

 using F-Prot you may want to add VirusCode 8 to
the config. This will stop

 them as Unknown Virus. Check your virus log and
you may see some code 8

 errors in it. Adding viruscode 8 will at least
stop them.

 

 Ouside of email NAV was calling it Trojan.Tooso.H
and F-Prot was calling

 it w32/mitglieder.c. I submitted my findings to
Declude support earlier in

 the week and spoke with a someone yesterday. Sent
the file to him and he

 said the AVG called it a Bagle of some sort.

 

 What is strange is outside of email, f-prot was
detecting it. But without

 viruscode 8, nothing.

 

 Tyler



 

 

 -- Original Message
--

 From: Chuck Schick [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:05:08 -0600

 

 Starting to see messages that have a zip
attachement with the format

 5.zip

 or 7.zip - I do not know if it is spam
or a virus. Anyone else seeing

 this? Virus scanner is not catching it
so I do not know if it is a virus

 or

 not.

 

 Chuck Schick

 Warp 8, Inc.

 (303)-421-5140

 www.warp8.com

 

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Another new virus

2005-04-18 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Looks like another outbreak in progress.

File appears to be your_text . zip without the spaces.

Appears to be another MyTob.

John T
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
 Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:14 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Another new virus
 
 I've seen one sample in the last few minutes.  It arrives as jokes.zip,
and
 www.virustotal.com describes the enclosed 123456.exe as:
 
 This is a report processed by VirusTotal on 04/16/2005 at 00:11:32 (CET)
after
 scanning the file 123456.exe file.
 Antivirus Version Update Result
 AntiVir 6.30.0.7 04.15.2005 no virus found
 AVG 718 04.15.2005 no virus found
 BitDefender 7.0 04.15.2005 BehavesLike:Win32.SiteHijack
 ClamAV devel-20050307 04.15.2005 Worm.Bagle.BB
 DrWeb 4.32b 04.15.2005 Win32.HLLM.Beagle.37888
 eTrust-Iris 7.1.194.0 04.15.2005 Win32/Glieder.T!Trojan
 eTrust-Vet 11.7.0.0 04.15.2005 no virus found
 Fortinet 2.51 04.15.2005 no virus found
 F-Prot 3.16b 04.15.2005 no virus found
 Ikarus 2.32 04.15.2005 Email-Worm.Win32.Bagle.pac
 Kaspersky 4.0.2.24 04.16.2005 Email-Worm.Win32.Bagle.pac
 McAfee 4470 04.15.2005 W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 NOD32v2 1.1064 04.15.2005 Win32/TrojanDownloader.Small.ZL
 Norman 5.70.10 04.14.2005 W32/Downloader
 Panda 8.02.00 04.15.2005 W32/Bagle.CA.worm
 Sybari 7.5.1314 04.15.2005 Troj/BagleDl-N
 Symantec 8.0 04.15.2005 Trojan.Tooso.F
 VBA32 3.10.3 04.15.2005 Email-Worm.Win32.Bagle.pac
 
 VirusTotal is a free service offered by Hispasec Sistemas. There are no
guarantees
 about the availability and continuity of this service. Although the
detection rate
 afforded by the use of multiple antivirus engines is far superior to that
offered by just
 one product, these results DO NOT guarantee the harmlessness of a file.
Currently,
 there is not any solution that offers a 100% effectiveness rate for
detecting viruses
 and malware. Go to: Home Contact En español



 www.virustotal.com :: @ Hispasec Sistemas 2004 :: e-mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Andrew 8)
 
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 2:33 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] Another new virus
 
 
 I am getting lots of banned attachment notices and lots of bounces in the
last 90
 minutes.
 
 THANKFULLY, I am blocking zip files which contain executables otherwise
these would
 have all be delivered to users.
 
 Any one have an idea of what this one is, it is kind of acting like Bagle.
 
 John T
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[Declude.Virus] Another new virus

2005-04-15 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I am getting lots of banned attachment notices and lots of bounces in the
last 90 minutes.

THANKFULLY, I am blocking zip files which contain executables otherwise
these would have all be delivered to users.

Any one have an idea of what this one is, it is kind of acting like Bagle.

John T
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[Declude.Virus] F-Prot tagging zips as code 8

2005-04-14 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I sent an encrypted zip file out, changing the .zip to ._ip. F-prot scanned
it and returned code 8, so Declude dutifly tagged it as infected.

Virus Code 8 means suspect, correct?

If this is what F-Prot is going to do, we need to rethink having
users/clients rename files.

04/14/2005 09:04:54.958 Q949B0A0BD0F1 [392] 0 - filename._ip
04/14/2005 09:04:54.958 Q949B0A0BD0F1 [392] Scanning files (2 scanners)
04/14/2005 09:04:54.973 Q949B0A0BD0F1 [392] Starting scanner #1:
C:\Progra~1\FSI\F-Prot\fpcmd.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOMEM /ARCHIVE=5 /NOBOOT
/DUMB /REPORT=report.txt F:\SPOOL\D949B0~1.VIR\
04/14/2005 09:04:54.973 Q949B0A0BD0F1 [392] Waiting for free processes
[20 fpcmd.exe]
04/14/2005 09:04:54.973 Q949B0A0BD0F1 [392] Done waiting for free
processes [0].
04/14/2005 09:04:54.973 Q949B0A0BD0F1 [392] Virus Scanner Started:
C:\Progra~1\FSI\F-Prot\fpcmd.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOMEM /ARCHIVE=5 /NOBOOT
/DUMB /REPORT=report.txt F:\SPOOL\D949B0~1.VIR\
04/14/2005 09:04:55.067 Q949B0A0BD0F1 [392] Scanning Time: 109ms
[kernel=31 user=78]
04/14/2005 09:04:55.067 Q949B0A0BD0F1 [392] Virus scanner 1 reports exit
code of 8

John T
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RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot tagging zips as code 8

2005-04-14 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
 John,
 
 I know that you don't follow this logic, but banning regular zips is
 extreme and unnecessary IMO.  Declude will scan any attachment

Matt, my original post said encrypted zips. This was an encrypted zip and
contained a executable.

I do not ban regular zips unless they contain an executable.

This zip has to go out encrypted.

John T
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RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot tagging zips as code 8

2005-04-14 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)









I guess my question is what has changed
in F-Prot and is any one else seeing this? F-Prot was not tagging these before?





John T

eServices For You







-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:13 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus]
F-Prot tagging zips as code 8



My fault for the misread, but I also addressed the
issue regardless. Remove VIRUS CODE 8 from your config if you don't want
for this to happen.

Matt



John Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote: 

John,I know that you don't follow this logic, but banning regular zips isextreme and unnecessary IMO. Declude will scan any attachment 

Matt, my original post said encrypted zips. This was an encrypted zip andcontained a executable.I do not ban regular zips unless they contain an executable.This zip has to go out encrypted.John TeServices For You---This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype unsubscribe Declude.Virus. The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. 





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[Declude.Virus] Possible new virus?

2005-04-14 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I have seen in the last hour 4 e-mails blocked for [RAR-EXE] and each one
had a blank subject line.

Each one also had the recipients user part of the e-mail address as the
sender's user part of the e-mail address.

John T
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RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot tagging zips as code 8

2005-04-14 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Title: Message









The thing is, it used to work as I have
done that before. Renaming the file is only to bypass the banned extension. The
file is still scanned. However, F-Prot never stopped it as code 8 before.





John T

eServices For You







-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:57 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus]
F-Prot tagging zips as code 8





John, I don't think you mention
whatkind offile was in your encrypted zip. I just took a try
at repeating the test as it may be applicable to my own environment.











I block encrypted banned extensions with:











BANEZIPEXTS ON











and ..doc file is not in my list of
banned extensions, just the usual executable extension. I also use return
code 8 with my f-prot.











I sent a zip file with a single password
protectedMS Word .docfile (using the standard zip password scheme)
using a non-trivial password in case there is password guessing involved.
No problem, it came through Declude just fine.











I then renamed the zip file to
blahblah._ip and sent the test message again. No problem, it came through
just fine.











If you're talking about sending
executables, then I'm not worried about whether F-Prot returns code 8
(suspicious file) or whether BANEZIPEXTS ON catches, as I expect to catch these. This is acceptable in
my corporate environment.











We have never advised people to rename
files in order to work around our antivirus software, but they've always
tried! They've also always failed, as our internal software (Trend Micro)
does not trust extensions as file-type identification.











I hope that helps,











Andrew 8)





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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists)
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:33 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus]
F-Prot tagging zips as code 8

I guess my question is what has changed
in F-Prot and is any one else seeing this? F-Prot was not tagging these before?





John T

eServices For You







-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:13 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus]
F-Prot tagging zips as code 8



My fault for the misread, but I also addressed the
issue regardless. Remove VIRUS CODE 8 from your config if you don't want
for this to happen.

Matt



John Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote: 

John,I know that you don't follow this logic, but banning regular zips isextreme and unnecessary IMO. Declude will scan any attachment 

Matt, my original post said encrypted zips. This was an encrypted zip andcontained a executable.I do not ban regular zips unless they contain an executable.This zip has to go out encrypted.John TeServices For You---This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype unsubscribe Declude.Virus. The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. 



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RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude and Linux?

2005-03-30 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I bet Scott is smirking reading that and if Len saw it look out.

John T
eServices For You

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Dan Horne
 Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:06 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude and Linux?
 
 I'd definitely like to see Declude plug into postfix.  But then wouldn't
 that be kind of like Len and Scott holding hands?  ~Shudder~
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Franco-Rocha
 Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 4:52 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Declude and Linux?
 
 That is definitely in the stack of cards, Jeff. But we cannot yet
 project a release date. We will, however, keep you informed as we get
 closer to formulating that project. We would be interested in hearing
 any input you would care to provide, such as: your Linux platform, the
 mail server(s) you would like to see targeted, etc.
 
 David Franco-Rocha
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Jeff Kratka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 4:29 PM
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] Declude and Linux?
 
 
  Will there be a version of Declude for Linux?
 
  Jeff Kratka
  
  TymeWyse Internet
  P.O.Box 84 - 110 Ecklund St., Canyonville, OR 97417
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RE: [Declude.Virus] WinZip Companion for Outlook (OT)

2005-02-28 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Yep, I block them for good reason.

A virus scanner can not (and should not) scan what is inside an encrypted
Zip file.

My policy stays the same: If you have to send a potentially malicious file,
you will have to rename the extension.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Marc Catuogno
 Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 12:47 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] WinZip Companion for Outlook (OT)
 
 This is going to a problem for me if it catches on people will think it is
 cool to password their zip files, and since I block them
 Just thought I'd heads up the group in case any of you automatically
block
 encrypted files as well.
 
 
 A choice of Zip 2.0 or 128- or 256-bit AES encryption
 
 AES encryption provides much greater cryptographic security than the
 traditional Zip 2.0 encryption method used in earlier versions of WinZip.
 Encryption applied to an attachment is done when the file is zipped. The
 recipient of the attachment must then use a password to extract the
contents
 from the Zip file.
 
 The Companion's advanced encryption (FIPS-197 certified) uses the Rijndael
 cryptographic algorithm which, in 2001, was specified by the National
 Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) in Federal Information
 Processing Standards (FIPS) Publication 197 as the Advanced Encryption
 Standard (AES).
 
 Note: Recipients to whom you send AES-encrypted Zip files must have a
 compatible Zip file utility, such as WinZip 9.0, in order to decrypt the
 files.
 
 Marc
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Organization changes at Declude

2005-02-21 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Scott, may your new endeavors be as rewarding or more than the ones now
behind you.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


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 Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 10:10 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] Organization changes at Declude
 
 After 4 years of hard work and little sleep Scott Perry has decided to
move
 away from customer facing activities with Declude and will be spending
more
 of his time working with the Red Cross.
 
 Scott continues his commitment to Declude in an advisory role.
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New MyDoom virus

2005-02-16 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)

I have been wondering what is going on in the last half hour. Been getting a
larger than normal amount of banned extension blocks.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Don Hickey
 Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 4:00 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] New MyDoom virus
 
 We are many of these since about 5pm central time. Mcafee has definition
 updates to catch this. We were catching it by the blocked extensions
before
 the Mcafee update was installed.
 
 http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_131856.htm
 
 At this time F-prot is not catching these..
 
 Don
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Where is the 'CR' vulnerability

2005-02-10 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Markus, I received the post with the attachment and time stamped 12:17 AM
PST.

John Tolmachoff
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
 Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 1:55 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Where is the 'CR' vulnerability
 
 Beside the question: I've send this message (with the message in the body)
 yesterday evening but it was not delivered to the list. So I've resend the
 message (with the message as attachment) this morning and it showed up
 immediatly on the list.  ??
 
 Markus
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
  Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 8:56 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.Virus] Where is the 'CR' vulnerability
 
 
  A customers PHP script is sending out the following message:
 
 
 
 ~
 ~
  Received: from lx.domain.net [217.123.123.123] by
  mail.zcom.it with ESMTP
(SMTPD32-8.13) id AD887060072; Tue, 08 Feb 2005 17:49:12 +0100
  Received: by lx.domain.net (Postfix, from userid 33)
  id 93432A1C4; Tue,  8 Feb 2005 17:47:19 +0100 (CET)
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Danke
  From: customer.it [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  X-Mailer: PITA-Server 1.5-Z8 1107902839 Message-Id:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tue,  8 Feb 2005 17:47:19 +0100 (CET)
  X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [217.123.123.123]
  X-Spam-Tests-Failed: None [0]
  X-Country-Chain:
  X-Note: Sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED] -  ([217.123.123.123]) incoming.
  X-Declude-Virus: Detected [Outlook 'CR' Vulnerability].
 
 
  Danke dass Sie sich bei immobilien-prisma.it erkundigen.
 
  Besuchen Sie uns wieder!
 
  --
  Immobilien in Brixen und Umgebung
  http://www.immobilien-prisma.it/
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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 ~
 
 
  Question: Where is the CR vulnerability?
 
  Markus
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] HiJack Question

2005-02-07 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)









First, you should be actively monitoring
the HOLD2 directory. There are some scripts on the Declude Tools sight that can
be used for this.



Second, you do not need to cycle the
SMTP service. However, you will have to rename the HOLD2 files if you want to release
them and then manually move them.





John Tolmachoff

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-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc
Sent: Sunday,
 February 06, 2005 11:12 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] HiJack
Question





Scenario: Dialup ISP using dynamic IP allocation.





Customer#1 using IP address of 1.2.3.4 trips threshold
#2. Logs off.





Customer #2 logs on and obtains the same IP that customer #1
had (1.2.3.4)











My understanding is that HiJack will block Customer #2's
outbound email as well. At leastuntil the Declude Console (DECCON.EXE) is
closed.











Question: If this is true, is it acceptable practice to
cleanup HOLD2, stop the SMTP service, kill the DECCON PID and restart the SMTP
service? Thx.













-M

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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-28 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
My log files go to a separate directory (partition if available) and are
zipped either weekly or monthly depending on size and when there are enough
they get burned to CD then deleted.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
 Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 2:24 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
 
 Darin,
 
 What do you do with the old log files? Do you put them on another
 machine for processing/analysis/archiving?
 
 If you are archiving how long do you keep the data?
 
 Thanx
 
 
 
 
  Goran Jovanovic
  The LAN Shoppe
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
  Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:15 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
 
  Notices only go out for banned files.  We include a statement that the
  email
  will be available to be requeued for x number of days...so automatic
  processes clean it up if it's unclaimed.
 
  Regarding the space problem, are you moving logs off to another
 partition
  on
  a nightly basis?  Between that, automatic cleanup, and zipping old
 logs
  ours
  stays pretty clean.
 
  Darin.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Andy Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:05 PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
 
 
  Hi Goran:
 
  Oh, I've been thinking about just that.  However does that mean you
 hold
  all
  virus files?
 
  I don't think I could afford the additional disk space (the spool file
 is
  already too big as it is.)
 
  Best Regards
  Andy
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
  Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:48 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
 
 
  Andy,
 
  Someone posted on this list a while ago a small ASP page that I am
 using
  to
  requeue a banned file. I send out a bannotify.eml what has the link
 back
  to
  the server with the appropriate file name. The user says I really
 really
  want this file and clicks on the link. It gets requeued automatically
 into
  the spool directory and it is not scanned/banned again and the user
 gets
  it
  within 30 minutes.
 
  I remember that there was some discussion on the list a while ago
 about
  having the users authenticate and fill in a form etc. I decided not to
  bother with that.
 
  I can send you my bannotify.eml and the asp file if you wish. Let me
 know
 
 
 
 
   Goran Jovanovic
   The LAN Shoppe
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
   Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:27 PM
   To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
   Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
  
1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP
  files,
   and will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as
 it
   blocks banned file extensions in .ZIP files. 
  
   Beautiful!
  
   Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files G
  
   (Globally banning zipped .EXE files is not an option for me - I
 gotta
  give
   those customers SOME practical way to send/receive restricted file
   types.)
  
   Best Regards
   Andy
  
  
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RE: [Declude.Virus] FW: MS Windows/Critical Error

2005-01-26 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
So, if I am banning ZIPEXT, this should be caught since rar is treated same
as zip in Declude, correct?

What is the file in the rar?

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
 Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:34 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] FW: MS Windows/Critical Error
 
 Just got that one - attached was a WindowsUpdate.rar, 43 KB.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Microsoft INC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 09:15 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: MS Windows/Critical Error
 
 
 Dear Sir/Madam,
 We kindly ask you to install this update to your PC as soon as possible.
 In the libraries of OS WindowsR critical errors have been found. This
errors
 lead to destruction of the system files from your computer without an
 opportunity on restoration. The given service-pack fixes libraries and
does
 not allow various Trojan modules to penetrate into your computer.
 
 Yours Faithfully,
 Microsoft INC
 
 
 
 
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[Declude.Virus] hlp attachments

2004-12-28 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I just had a client request blocking of hlp attachments. I have been
extremely busy with 2 major projects and have not seen anything about this.

Any one have information on a virus that uses that?

John Tolmachoff
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[Declude.Virus] Declude Licensing codes

2004-12-22 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Here is some information for all who have concerns about the new licensing
and tie in to IPs and/or MACs:

I have spoken to Barry today, and while I will not reveal the little bit of
information I was given, I will state on my honor that I have no problem
with the new license code process what ever you want to call it.

Additionally, Declude has designed and taken steps to make sure there will
be no problems in the event you need to change IPs or hardware overnight, on
a weekend, on an extended weekend or even if disaster were to strike and the
Declude offices were not available for a week.

Hopefully, you can now rest assured that Declude will not stop working if
you have to fix your server.

FYI, there is also a process in place for a cold spare server to be prepared
and ready ahead of time. You will need to contact Declude to specifically
set that up.

John Tolmachoff
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RE: [Declude.Virus] PB installing 2.0B

2004-12-21 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I also would like to continue to have the option of a manual install. 

The beauty of Declude is its adaptation and customization. An auto install
takes that away and can mess with customized files.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
 Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 10:26 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] PB installing 2.0B
 
 Hey, Declude Support, I'm interested in a manual installation, too!
 
 ...
 
 Now, I don't want to sound like I'm shooting the messenger, but I hope
 you guys aren't doing this on your production server.
 
 Since I'm interested in the manual installation, I'll install it on the
 development server, note the changes, and then after testing, bring it
 over to the live server.
 
 Which is the same as I've done the last few times.  If you're going to
 implement beta software, it's worth the effort.
 
 Andrew 8)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry
 Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 7:02 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] PB installing 2.0B
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  you are probably right
  we use to have the same issue with manual install
  However, the full install notes specificaly say that no service need
  to
 be
  stoped when upgrading
  So they need get their act together, or give us back our old manual
 install
 
 I agree, the old manual download/install should at least be an option.
 I don't like downloading 6.66mb file, just to get a 500kb declude.exe
 file. Especially when that 6mb install file takes over 3.5 minutes to
 complete its installation process, and then changes my config files in
 the process without warning (as Kami noted, it changes the .eml files -
 did the same thing here), and then did not install properly.
 
 After running the install, which completed without error, I ended up
 with a 288kb declude.exe file that did not work - I had to revert back
 to version 1.81 to get Declude JunkMail  Virus to function again.  What
 size declude.exe file have others that successfully installed 2.0B ended
 up with?
 
 Bill
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot 3.14 causing server freezes

2004-12-14 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)









Yes, this is a known problem. Resolution
is to switch to the 32 bit windows version.





John Tolmachoff

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-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Brandes
Sent: Tuesday,
 December 14, 2004 8:10 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot
3.14 causing server freezes





I am using the DOS version of F-Prot 3.14 and am having
problems with F-Prot freezing the server which forces me to do a hard reset of
the system.











The event log entry reads:











Application popup: 16 bit MS-DOS Subsystem :
D:\FProt\F-Prot.exe
X#=0D, CS=01CF IP=5703. The NTVDM CPU has encountered an unhandled
exception. Choose 'Close' to terminate the application.











I searched the archives and found some messages but they
were too old to view. Are other users of F-Prot experiencing this
problem? Is there a better alternative to F-Prot for virus checking that
won't cause these problems?









Matthew Brandes, MCSE, CCA
IT Manager 
Integra Realty Resources, Inc. 
1901 W. 47th Place, #300 
 Westwood, KS 66205 
T. 913-748-4720

F.913-236-4307
http://www.irr.com

















RE: [Declude.Virus] Parallel processing

2004-12-10 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Declude creates a separate directory for each message for scanning, so while
the report name is the same, the directory is unique.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
 Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 3:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] Parallel processing
 
 I'm using the f-prot command line scanner, and the lines in the
 virus.cfg look like this:
 
 SCANFILEC:\F-Prot\fpcmd.exe /ai /type /silent /archive=5 /dumb
 /noboot /nomem /packed /report=report.txt
 VIRUSCODE 3
 VIRUSCODE 6
 REPORT  Infection:
 
 That's working fine, but in my testing I'm only putting a few messages
 through at a time.  I note that the /report variable is setting one
 specific filename.  What happens when two or more declude processes are
 launched and both want to call the virus scanner at the same time?  I
 realize that scanning is relatively quick, but I can see that collisions
 would result.
 
 If Declude doesn't handle this internally to set a different report name
 per instance, then I think paranoia would pushe me to set MAXATONCE 1
 ... ?
 
 Andrew.
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Parallel processing

2004-12-10 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
;)

I only use filemon when other avenues come up empty. Too much data to look
at.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
 Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 3:46 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Parallel processing
 
 Thanks, John.  Asking here was quicker than breaking out that free file
 monitor (FileMon) from SysInternals.com ...
 
 Andrew 8)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 3:39 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Parallel processing
 
 
 Declude creates a separate directory for each message for scanning, so
 while the report name is the same, the directory is unique.
 
 John Tolmachoff
 Engineer/Consultant/Owner
 eServices For You
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
  Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 3:31 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Declude.Virus] Parallel processing
 
  I'm using the f-prot command line scanner, and the lines in the
  virus.cfg look like this:
 
  SCANFILEC:\F-Prot\fpcmd.exe /ai /type /silent /archive=5 /dumb
  /noboot /nomem /packed /report=report.txt
  VIRUSCODE 3
  VIRUSCODE 6
  REPORT  Infection:
 
  That's working fine, but in my testing I'm only putting a few messages
 
  through at a time.  I note that the /report variable is setting one
  specific filename.  What happens when two or more declude processes
  are launched and both want to call the virus scanner at the same time?
 
  I realize that scanning is relatively quick, but I can see that
  collisions would result.
 
  If Declude doesn't handle this internally to set a different report
  name per instance, then I think paranoia would pushe me to set
  MAXATONCE 1 ... ?
 
  Andrew.
 
 
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[Declude.Virus] New Favsin virus.

2004-11-22 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32favsina.html

Any one have any more information on this new one?

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[Declude.Virus] Bagz

2004-11-11 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Neither F-Prot (3.15b) nor AVG (7.0.289) appear to be catching this.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Bagz

2004-11-11 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Interesting, out of their list, only ClamWin caught it. I assume that is
ClamAV?

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 Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:17 AM
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 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Bagz
 
 John,
  Try submitting it to http://www.virustotal.com and see what they return.
 
 Fritz
 
 Frederick P. Squib, Jr.
 Network Operations/Mail Administrator
 Citizens Telephone Company of Kecksburg
 http://www.wpa.net
 
 ()  ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail
 /\- against microsoft attachments
 
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 Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:28 AM
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 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Bagz
 
 
 I received a reply from AVG this morning saying the file I submitted to
them
 was virus free, even though Scott confirmed it was infected with Bagz.
 
 John Tolmachoff
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  Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 12:27 AM
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  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Bagz
 
  Marcus, do not take the personally because I am tired and grouchy.
 
  That information does me no good. I already know that everyone else is
  catching these as some form of Bagz. However, no one lists any alias
  or variant name that AVG or F-Prot might be using, and neither F-Prot
  or AVG list Bagz as a known virus.
 
  I am using F-Prot and AVG with Declude Virus, and these are only being
  caught with banned extension, not an infected message as they should
  be.
 
  I have submitted to both F-Prot and AVG and am waiting back for their
  wonderful words of wisdom.
 
  And yes, my defs are updated. Programs also.
 
  John Tolmachoff
  Engineer/Consultant/Owner
  eServices For You
 
 
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   Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Bagz
  
  
Neither F-Prot (3.15b) nor AVG (7.0.289) appear to be catching
this.
  
   Hm searching on http://vil.nai.com/vil/default.asp for bagz
   returns a
  lot
   of variants. Seems not to be an absolutely new one...
  
   Markus
  
  
  
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[Declude.Virus] W32/Bofra-A

2004-11-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Any one know what the link in the body is so we can add filters for it?

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Sample Configs

2004-11-04 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Declude JunkMail questions should be directed to the Declude.JunkMail list.

John Tolmachoff
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eServices For You

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 Subject: [Declude.Virus] Sample Configs
 
 Hello,
 
Just signed back up for this list again.  I was wondering if people
could
 share some sample default junkmail files and cfg files?   I am using
Declude
 for anti-spam only as of now and would be interested in seeing how other
 people are setting theirs up.  Our current config is working pretty good,
 but would love to make it better.
 
 Thanks,
 Mark Mitchell
 Inwave Internet Inc.
 
 
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[Declude.Virus] BitDefender

2004-11-03 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Has any tried using BitDefender with Declude Virus, or ClamAV for that
matter?

Does it work?

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RE: [Declude.Virus] BitDefender

2004-11-03 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
PP

For those responding about ClamAV, my PPSS.

I meant mxGuard. Is any one using BitDefender with either Declude or
mxGuard?

John Tolmachoff
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 Subject: [Declude.Virus] BitDefender
 
 Has any tried using BitDefender with Declude Virus, or ClamAV for that
 matter?
 
 Does it work?
 
 John Tolmachoff
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RE: [Declude.Virus] BitDefender

2004-11-03 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I wonder if ICS standard includes the same executable file for BitDefender
as the one you are using.

John Tolmachoff
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 BitDefender work fine with Declude Virus, don't know about mxGuard.
 
 Bill
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 Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:27 AM
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  PP
 
  For those responding about ClamAV, my PPSS.
 
  I meant mxGuard. Is any one using BitDefender with either Declude or
  mxGuard?
 
  John Tolmachoff
  Engineer/Consultant/Owner
  eServices For You
 
 
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   Has any tried using BitDefender with Declude Virus, or ClamAV for that
   matter?
  
   Does it work?
  
   John Tolmachoff
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   eServices For You
  
  
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RE: [Declude.Virus] BitDefender

2004-11-03 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
What I am wondering is does ICS standard include the same executable for
BitDefender that your are using with your version for Declude?

John Tolmachoff
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 On Behalf Of Bill Landry
 Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 1:58 PM
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 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] BitDefender
 
 It's the free version: BitDefender Free Edition v7.  We don't have it
 running in production, just on a test server, but it seems to run just
fine
 in testing - although it is the slowest of the virus scanners we have
 tested: McAfee, F-Prot, TrendMicro, and ClamAV.
 
 Bill
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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 1:34 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] BitDefender
 
 
 Which BitDefender product are you using?
 
 John Tolmachoff
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  On Behalf Of Bill Landry
  Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:41 AM
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  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] BitDefender
 
  BitDefender work fine with Declude Virus, don't know about mxGuard.
 
  Bill
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  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] BitDefender
 
 
   PP
  
   For those responding about ClamAV, my PPSS.
  
   I meant mxGuard. Is any one using BitDefender with either Declude or
   mxGuard?
  
   John Tolmachoff
   Engineer/Consultant/Owner
   eServices For You
  
  
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Subject: [Declude.Virus] BitDefender
   
Has any tried using BitDefender with Declude Virus, or ClamAV for
that
matter?
   
Does it work?
   
John Tolmachoff
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Viruses getting through...

2004-11-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Block executable files. That should be standard defense mode now-a-days.

John Tolmachoff
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 Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 8:07 AM
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 Subject: [Declude.Virus] Viruses getting through...
 
 We are running Declude Pro with Fprot and we see a lot of viruses getting
 through with the attachment of Joke.com, Joke.exe, Price.com - Anyone else
 seeing the same thing?  It appears to be the beagle variant.
 
 Any suggestions on how to fix.
 
 Chuck Schick
 Warp 8, Inc.
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RE: Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] strange sending problem to the same domain

2004-10-28 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
The Declude Junkmail log lines.

John Tolmachoff
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 Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 9:06 AM
 To: John Tolmachoff (Lists)
 Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] strange sending problem to the same domain
 
 Hi  John, thank you.
 Below you can find my answers.
 Is it of any help ?
 Uwe
 
 JTL 1. Is the sender authenticating during the SMTP send to the server?
 Yes he is, this was my first thought as well.
 JTL 2. Log lines for the messages sent please.
 The odd thing is, that Outlook doesn't let my see the Mail-Headers
 to the eMails sent. Or do you mean the log lines in IMail ?
 JTL 3. Is the sender using Outlook 2003?
 The answer is: Outlook 2002 / SP 2
 JTL 4. Headers of the message that came through after changing from
DELETE at 20
 JTL to WARN.
 I have to ask the customers to send it to me tomorrow.
 
 JTL John Tolmachoff
 JTL Engineer/Consultant/Owner
 JTL eServices For You
 
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  On Behalf Of Declude
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Declude.Virus] strange sending problem to the same domain
 
  Hi list,
  a customer of us complained
  today that he could't send any
  eMail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  But he receives eMails to both of the above
  postboxes from externally.
  Today I bypassed Declude. (I deleted eMails
  over weight 20 I guess, now I only do a WARN)
  Since then it is working fine for him
  again.
  I tested his domain remotely with no problems.
  Although he takes Outlook. It seems as if
  Outlook as a Mailer-SW is causing problems
  here.
  Any ideas ?
 
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RE: re[2]: [Declude.Virus] Fw: Ipswitch Service Agreement Status

2004-10-26 Thread John Tolmachoff (Lists)
 Not sure if I missed a posting on this so,
 
 I recently attended an IPswitch seminar on ICS
 and ISPs can continue to purchase IMail as a
 standalone product.
 
 Sincerely,
 John David M. Miller

As of yesterday, incorrect. More to come later on my report to the Imail
list.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] What are these

2004-10-25 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Do you have an on-access scanner running?

John Tolmachoff
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 On Behalf Of Keith Johnson
 Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 7:38 AM
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 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] What are these
 
 Also,
 
 ERROR: Could not open recip file F:\IMail\spool\_08dc4c3a0030129f.~MD
 [2]
 
 Please advise to what this is, thanks,
 
 Keith
 
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 Q06634053002e6803 Error 183 creating temp directory
 F:\IMail\spool\D06634053002e6803.vir\.
 10/25/2004 10:26:26 Q06634053002e6803 Scanned: Error starting scanner
 
 Thanks for the aid, running 1.81
 
 
 
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 Network Advocates, Inc.
 9001 Shelbyville Road
 Burhans Hall, Suite 260
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RE: [Declude.Virus] MyDoom.o's slipping through.

2004-10-22 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Well, if the virus is forging the from, a user receives the zipped file,
sees it is from [EMAIL PROTECTED], says to himself hey, I know Joe, he
must have sent me a joke, opens the zip and away we go.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Todd Holt
 Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 9:07 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MyDoom.o's slipping through.
 
 Is it not true that EXEs in zip files are inert until opened by the user?
 We don't ban EXEs in zips because our users sometimes need to receive EXE
 files, but we constantly remind them to not open anything that is not
 verified (content expected from the sender).
 
 What do most admins do about this problem?
 
 Todd
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
 (Lists)
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 1:12 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MyDoom.o's slipping through.
 
 Why are you not banning executable files within zip files?
 
 John Tolmachoff
 Engineer/Consultant/Owner
 eServices For You
 
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Chris Patterson
  Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 12:42 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MyDoom.o's slipping through.
 
  Thanks, I was not aware of the /ARCHIVE=5.  I have adjusted that, here
  is my current cfg line:
 
  C:\Progra~1\FSI\F-Prot\F-Prot.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOMEM /ARCHIVE=5
  /NOFLOPPY /NOBOOT /DUMB /REPORT=report.txt
 
  If there is something I am missing, please let me know.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Chris Patterson, CCNA
  Network Engineer
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 3:25 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] MyDoom.o's slipping through.
 
 
  I have had two reports in the last 2 days about a virus coming through.
  
  The customer forwarded these to me on an Exchange mailbox using Mcaffee
  which identified them as MyDoom.o.  Tracing the Logs, they were scanned
  and Deemed Virus Free using Prescan.
 
  Given that it is in a .ZIP file, and you are using F-Prot, do you have
  /ARCHIVE=5  in the SCANFILE line in the \IMail\Declude\virus.cfg
  file?  If it is just /ARCHIVE , you should change it to /ARCHIVE=5 ,
 
  due to a bug in the latest version of F-Prot.
 
  -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] MyDoom.o's slipping through.

2004-10-22 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Yes

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Chris Patterson
 Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 12:52 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MyDoom.o's slipping through.
 
 Does anyone else agree using the 32 bit command line scanner is better
 than the dos?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Chris Patterson, CCNA
 Network Engineer
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Douglas Cohn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 2:39 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MyDoom.o's slipping through.
 
 You should NOT use the dos scanner but instead use the Windows 32 bit
 command line scanner.  You would change the command to
 C:\Progra~1\FSI\F-Prot\fpcmd.exe.  Also there are some other changes
 needed
 to reflect the different program.  This is my current command line and I
 found that fpcmd was much better than using the dos scanner.
 
 C:\Progra~1\FSI\F-Prot\Fpcmd.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOMEM /ARCHIVE=5 /NOBOOT
 /DUMB /REPORT=report.txt
 
   C:\Progra~1\FSI\F-Prot\F-Prot.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOMEM /ARCHIVE=5
  /NOFLOPPY /NOBOOT /DUMB /REPORT=report.txt
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Patterson
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 4:38 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MyDoom.o's slipping through.
 
 I was up until one of my customers and then one of my Engineers could
 not
 receive firmware updates from Linksys.
 
 We are still reviewing that decision.  Do you think this MyDoom is a
 result
 of removing that block?
 
 Since adding the /ARCHIVE=5 this afternoon, I have seen it catch 2 of
 the
 rapidsys.com.zip attachments destined for the same customer that earlier
 reported the trouble.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Chris Patterson, CCNA
 Network Engineer
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 4:12 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MyDoom.o's slipping through.
 
 Why are you not banning executable files within zip files?
 
 John Tolmachoff
 Engineer/Consultant/Owner
 eServices For You
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Chris Patterson
  Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 12:42 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MyDoom.o's slipping through.
 
  Thanks, I was not aware of the /ARCHIVE=5.  I have adjusted that, here
 
  is my current cfg line:
 
  C:\Progra~1\FSI\F-Prot\F-Prot.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOMEM /ARCHIVE=5
  /NOFLOPPY /NOBOOT /DUMB /REPORT=report.txt
 
  If there is something I am missing, please let me know.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Chris Patterson, CCNA
  Network Engineer
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 3:25 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] MyDoom.o's slipping through.
 
 
  I have had two reports in the last 2 days about a virus coming
 through.
  
  The customer forwarded these to me on an Exchange mailbox using
 Mcaffee
  which identified them as MyDoom.o.  Tracing the Logs, they were
 scanned
  and Deemed Virus Free using Prescan.
 
  Given that it is in a .ZIP file, and you are using F-Prot, do you have
  /ARCHIVE=5  in the SCANFILE line in the \IMail\Declude\virus.cfg
  file?  If it is just /ARCHIVE , you should change it to /ARCHIVE=5
 ,
 
  due to a bug in the latest version of F-Prot.
 
  -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] hijack install problems

2004-10-22 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
1. Did configure logging in the hijack.cfg file?
2. Where is it logging to?
3. Of course the SMTP service is running, otherwise no e-mail would come in
or out.

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 On Behalf Of Greg Hedgepath
 Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:34 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] hijack install problems
 
 trying to install declude hijack on spooler server.
 virus and spam not installed here just hijack
 
 IMHO
 Problem arises on first run of declude.exe via command prompt
 
 C:\IMaildeclude
 Declude 1.81 (C) Copyright 2000-2004 Computerized Horizons.
 
 argc2
 
 First time running... installing...
 
 C:\IMail
 C:\IMaildeclude -diag
 Declude 1.81 (C) Copyright 2000-2004 Computerized Horizons.
 
 Diagnostics ON (Declude v1.81).
 
 Declude JunkMail:  Not installed (no C:\IMail\Declude\global.CFG file).
 Declude Virus: Not installed (no C:\IMail\Declude\Virus.CFG file).
 Declude Hijack:Config file found (C:\IMail\Declude\Hijack.CFG).
 Declude Confirm:   Not installed (no C:\IMail\Declude\Confirm.CFG file).
 
 First time running... installing...
 
 C:\IMail
 
 And then nothing.
 I have stop started the smtp and the quemanager services but
 I just seem to think there is something else wrong since when I run the
 declude -diag command I get the first time running info and it then just
 stops again.
 
 The smtp is still running even though declude.exe is set in the SMTP
 settings.
 I also checked the sendname regiistry setting and it too is set to
 c:\imail\declude.exe
 
 No hijack log has yet been produced yet either.
 
 I am very familiar with declude from my other server  running virus and
 junkmail.
 But this server is only running hijack.
 
 Thanks for your help
 Greg Hedegpath
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] hijack install problems

2004-10-22 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
 Is Deccon.exe in the \imail folder?
 
 
 yes it is in the base imail folder.
 Do I need the global.cfg file?
 I would not think so since this is not running the virus scan.

Now that is a interesting question.

It might need to be. 

Imail hands the message to declude.exe.

Declude.exe checks to see if hijack.cfg is there and licensed. 

You might want to call Declude and see if some one is there right now.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] MyDoom.o's slipping through.

2004-10-21 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Why are you not banning executable files within zip files?

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Chris Patterson
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 12:42 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] MyDoom.o's slipping through.
 
 Thanks, I was not aware of the /ARCHIVE=5.  I have adjusted that, here
 is my current cfg line:
 
 C:\Progra~1\FSI\F-Prot\F-Prot.exe /TYPE /SILENT /NOMEM /ARCHIVE=5
 /NOFLOPPY /NOBOOT /DUMB /REPORT=report.txt
 
 If there is something I am missing, please let me know.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Chris Patterson, CCNA
 Network Engineer
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 3:25 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] MyDoom.o's slipping through.
 
 
 I have had two reports in the last 2 days about a virus coming through.
 
 The customer forwarded these to me on an Exchange mailbox using Mcaffee
 which identified them as MyDoom.o.  Tracing the Logs, they were scanned
 and Deemed Virus Free using Prescan.
 
 Given that it is in a .ZIP file, and you are using F-Prot, do you have
 /ARCHIVE=5  in the SCANFILE line in the \IMail\Declude\virus.cfg
 file?  If it is just /ARCHIVE , you should change it to /ARCHIVE=5 ,
 
 due to a bug in the latest version of F-Prot.
 
 -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Another easy one

2004-10-02 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Are you using Declude Hijack?

John Tolmachoff
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Kevin Rogers
 Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 8:44 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Another easy one
 
 Just so you know.  There wasn't a CONSOLE anything in either the two
 files: global.cfg or virus.cfg.
 
 When I got the 1.81 upgrade, deccon.exe was put into my new Upgrade 1.81
 directory, so I decided to put it in the /Imail directory, and now
 everything is hunky-dorey.  But nonetheless, there was nothing about it
 in my default .cfg files.
 
 
 
 R. Scott Perry wrote:
 
 
  I didn't have anything after the LOGFILE and LOGLEVEL (no mention of
  CONSOLE at all).  So I've added a CONSOLE OFF line after that.  I
  don't have Hijack, so I assume this is the way to get around the error?
 
 
  Do you have a CONSOLE ON line in your global.cfg file?  It's
  possible that that could cause the error message, too.  If there is no
  CONSOLE ON line, it defaults to CONSOLE OFF, so I'm guessing the
  message will still appear.
 
  Note that the message doesn't affect how Declude functions (except
  that the console won't appear, but that isn't something you were
  expecting).
 
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[Declude.Virus] Virus test tools

2004-09-27 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Is there going to be a test added to the Tools page to test to see if the
GDIplus.dll exploit will be caught?

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Paypal and Outlook 'Blank Folding' Vulnerability

2004-09-25 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)









Well, I still see Code Red connection
attempts occasionally in my firewall logs.





John Tolmachoff

Engineer/Consultant/Owner

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-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 6:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus]
Paypal and Outlook 'Blank Folding' Vulnerability



John Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote:



However,
the post I was responding to was questioning whether or not there was an actual
vulnerability, not what to do with it.





What you define it as is subjective. There is no
exploit present in the messages that are being blocked, and the true
vulnerability exists not in the E-mail but in Outlook, and I believe that a
patch was issued quite a while ago for it. Declude doesn't detect an
actual exploit, just the precursors for the exploit, in this case a line in the
headers with a single space. Clearly this is not RFC compliant, but we
also don't live in a perfect world. I like the idea of being able to
detect this, but I would only turn it on after finding out that there was code
in the wild that was actively exploiting it. There would be no need to
turn off the vulnerability detection in Declude if the exploit code was
detected in association with the condition because that would seem to be a
perfect hit, but considering the time involved to create a suitable parsing
engine to do this, it seems like a better idea to just provide the
granularity. I believe that the exploit in this case simply
creates the ability to bypass virus scanners by putting the attachment in the
message headers, and Outlook will read the attachment despite it being
misplaced/malformed. That in itself won't infect a computer, but it does
make it easy to get past virus scanning software.

I also don't think it would be a bad idea to maybe retire some of these things
due to patching, but granularity would provide that capability for us to do
this on our own. Viruses will have a very hard time spreading when they
utilize an exploit that has been patched for a year or more and I would think
that with so many other forms of exploits available to them, they would choose
something more likely to be successful. For instance, any virus writer
would be properly targeting the JPG vulnerability in Microsoft products for
some time to come. As things stand, most every desktop scanner is set by
default to ignore JPG files, and intercepting such files for scanning prior to
display in Internet Explorer could drive many machines into the ground in terms
of performance. Shame on Microsoft.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] PRot 3.15b just released - yeah!!

2004-09-24 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)

Goran, I take it you are volunteering as the guinea pig?

;)

John Tolmachoff
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 10:09 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] PRot 3.15b just released - yeah!!
 
 Greetings,
 
 We have just released a new version of the windows scanner (3.15b).
 
   - Fix:  FPAV Windows 3.15b scans JPEG images for exploit
 
 Please do not hesitate to contact us again if you need further
 information.
 
 Best regards,
 Anna Podolskaia
 F-Prot Antivirus Support Department
 
 
 
 
  Goran Jovanovic
  The LAN Shoppe
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Marchette
  Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 12:13 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot/GDI+ FYI
 
  That being the case, can you outline for us the simplest way to strip
  JPEGs out of a message yet still send the rest of the message through?
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
  Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 8:52 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot/GDI+ FYI
 
 
  Scott, is there anything recommend that we can do strictly from
 Declude
  Virus to protect against this until the virus scanners can pick it
 up?
 
  Without blocking all .JPG files, nothing.  The problem is that there
 is
  a
  lack of information on how to detect such .JPG's.
 
  -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Paypal and Outlook 'Blank Folding' Vulnerability

2004-09-24 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Yes there is and has been an option for vulnerability notification.

It is called adding lines like SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS vulnerability and
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEDOESNOTHAVE vulnerability.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Darin Cox
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 10:26 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Paypal and Outlook 'Blank Folding'
Vulnerability
 
 Scott,
 
 Would it be possible for these vulnerabilities to have a notification
email
 associated with them, like banned files?  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I
 don't believe there are any notification possibilities with these
currently.
 
 If this were added, then our users could be automatically notified of the
 email and, with a simple web script, be able to have the message requeued.
 
 There might be better ways to handle this, like a global or per-domain
 weighting/exemption system for vulnerabilities, banned files, etc., but
this
 could work until a better solution is found.
 
 Darin.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 1:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Paypal and Outlook 'Blank Folding'
 Vulnerability
 
 
 
 That's a good question...Scott?
 
 We've tried unsuccessfully to contact PayPal in the past, when they were
 sending out vulnerabilities.
 
 However, if people send us samples, we can try to contact them again.
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Paypal and Outlook 'Blank Folding' Vulnerability

2004-09-24 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Issue is not the notifications. That is how I found out about the problem.
The issue is getting Paypal to fix it.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
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 -Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Darin Cox
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 11:07 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Paypal and Outlook 'Blank Folding'
Vulnerability
 
 Suppose I should have taken the time to read the manual...grin
 
 John, does this help with your issue?
 
 Darin.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 2:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Paypal and Outlook 'Blank Folding'
 Vulnerability
 
 
 
 It would be nice to have more granular control over this, though...to
 perhaps only send for particular hosts, IPs, or email addresses in
response
 to the existing criteria for virus name and vulnerability.
 
 There are many such options -- for example, ONLYSENDIFRECIP,
 ONLYSENDIFSENDER, ONLYSENDIFIP...
 
 -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot/GDI+ FYI

2004-09-24 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Correct, you can not strip the attachment, the configured action is taken on
the whole message. So, if you have Declude Virus configured to automatically
delete (not recommended) then the whole message is deleted.

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 On Behalf Of Dave Marchette
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 11:36 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot/GDI+ FYI
 
 Odd.  My experience with the BANEXT command is that it caused the entire
 email be deleted, not just the banned extension.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 11:07 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot/GDI+ FYI
 
 Dave,
 BANEXT JPG
 
 
 Scott,
 Here's the information about how to track the malformed header using
 SNORT.
 http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?date=2004-09-23
 
 Also some utilities on scanning your PC.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Marchette
  Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 12:13 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot/GDI+ FYI
 
  That being the case, can you outline for us the simplest way
  to strip JPEGs out of a message yet still send the rest of
  the message through?
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
  Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 8:52 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot/GDI+ FYI
 
 
  Scott, is there anything recommend that we can do strictly
  from Declude
  Virus to protect against this until the virus scanners can
  pick it up?
 
  Without blocking all .JPG files, nothing.  The problem is
  that there is a lack of information on how to detect such .JPG's.
 
  -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Paypal and Outlook 'Blank Folding' Vulnerability

2004-09-24 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Sleep, what is that?

I spent most of last night working, the rest trying to sleep with a bloody
nose, and then the phone rang at 6:30 AM.

And no, it was not my wife. I am genetically prone to bloody noses in dry
weather. This week, the average humidity in Southern California has been
around 15%.

John Tolmachoff
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 -Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Darin Cox
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 11:51 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Paypal and Outlook 'Blank Folding'
Vulnerability
 
 I understand that.  I was trying to help you come up with a workaround in
 the meantime.
 
 Perhaps this would have been a good day to roll over and go back to
sleep...
 
 Darin.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 2:23 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Paypal and Outlook 'Blank Folding'
 Vulnerability
 
 
 Issue is not the notifications. That is how I found out about the problem.
 The issue is getting Paypal to fix it.
 
 John Tolmachoff
 Engineer/Consultant/Owner
 eServices For You
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Darin Cox
  Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 11:07 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Paypal and Outlook 'Blank Folding'
 Vulnerability
 
  Suppose I should have taken the time to read the manual...grin
 
  John, does this help with your issue?
 
  Darin.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 2:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Paypal and Outlook 'Blank Folding'
  Vulnerability
 
 
 
  It would be nice to have more granular control over this, though...to
  perhaps only send for particular hosts, IPs, or email addresses in
 response
  to the existing criteria for virus name and vulnerability.
 
  There are many such options -- for example, ONLYSENDIFRECIP,
  ONLYSENDIFSENDER, ONLYSENDIFIP...
 
  -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Paypal and Outlook 'Blank Folding' Vulnerability

2004-09-24 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
No thanks. I like to feel dry after using a towel when getting out of the
shower.

As a truck driver, I once made a team run to Marietta Georgia. Once was
quite enough thank you.

John Tolmachoff
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 On Behalf Of Sharyn Schmidt
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 12:10 PM
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 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Paypal and Outlook 'Blank Folding'
Vulnerability
 
 
 And no, it was not my wife. I am genetically prone to bloody noses in dry
 weather. This week, the average humidity in Southern California has been
 around 15%.
 
 
 Gee, come to Florida where we are about to be hit with our FOURTH
hurricane
 in about 6 weeks, lots of rain and humidity here!
 
 Sharyn
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Paypal and Outlook 'Blank Folding' Vulnerability

2004-09-24 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
This looks like a clear explanation to me:


18.3 Outlook 'Blank Folding' Vulnerability: This vulnerability occurs when
there is a line in the headers with just a single space or a single tab
character. Outlook can treat this as the end of the headers, allowing it to
see a virus that is embedded in the headers. RFC822 3.2.3 says that it is
not valid to have such lines, nor is there any legitimate reason for an
E-mail to contain a blank line in the headers with a single space or tab
(note that it is OK to have a line with a single space or tab in the E-mail
body, just not the headers). 
 


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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of David Maynard
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 5:17 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Paypal and Outlook 'Blank Folding' Vulnerabi
lity
 
 While the PayPal messages apparently aren't properly formatted via the
 RFC's, they clearly aren't vulnerabilities.  I have always considered
this
 one of Declude's most questionable features.  For marketing purposes,
this
 is touted as something that Declude stops while other programs don't.  It
 isn't well explained and would lead people to believe that anything it
traps
 is something nasty.  The truth is that most things it traps are legitimate
 emails that are the product of badly-coded email programs.  A more
accurate
 method of detecting *real* exploits of the blank folding problem would
 certainly be very appreciated.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 12:12 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Paypal and Outlook 'Blank Folding'
 Vulnerability
 
 
 
 That's a good question...Scott?
 
 We've tried unsuccessfully to contact PayPal in the past, when they were
 sending out vulnerabilities.
 
 However, if people send us samples, we can try to contact them again.
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Paypal and Outlook 'Blank Folding' Vulnerability

2004-09-24 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)









I would have turned the
vulnerability detection off by now except for the fact that more recently there
has been good progress on malformed file detection that has been useful in
blocking viruses (or at least stopping the banned extension bounce messages on
our system). I would prefer that when this is changed and control becomes
more granular, that we get the ability to filter on these hits in JunkMail
instead of just turning on and off each test. That would allow me to
review the messages under the same system as the spam, although segregated.



Matt, I am not going to argue that, as that is a valid
point, as I would also like to see flexibility in blocking vulnerabilities. 



However, the post I was responding to was questioning
whether or not there was an actual vulnerability, not what to do with it.





John Tolmachoff

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RE: [Declude.Virus] IMail?

2004-09-21 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)









CDW





John Tolmachoff

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Hirthe, Alexander
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004
12:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.Virus] IMail?



Hello,



where can I buy IMail? (not at
Ipswitch.com, cheaper :) 



Alex 










RE: [Declude.Virus] IMail?

2004-09-21 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Don't you ever sleep?

Good night.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
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 -Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman
 Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 12:34 AM
 To: Hirthe, Alexander
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] IMail?
 
  where can I buy IMail? (not at Ipswitch.com, cheaper :)
 
 Google and Froogle are your friends.
 
 --Sandy
 
 
 
 Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
 Broadleaf Systems, a division of
 Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Forging candidate - JS/IFrame@exp

2004-09-17 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)









I think this is the one where the html
body calls an object from a URL which will automatticly download the virus
payload.





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-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 2:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Forging
candidate - JS/[EMAIL PROTECTED]



In the last hour we have started to see F-Prot tag
something called JS/[EMAIL PROTECTED] There were 13 of them since 4 p.m. EST and they don't appear at all in yesterday's logs. This appears to be all
spam from forged addresses. Here are some Mail From addresses according
to the Virus log:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

And some sample headers retrieved from a failed virus notification (slightly
munged by cut and paste).

Received: from mx2.mailpure.com [63.170.56.47] by
mx1.mailpure.com with ESMTP
(SMTPD32-8.05) id AE4C847000A2; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:51:24 -0400
Received: from DRAGON-01 ([4.26.147.117]) by mx2.mailpure.com with Microsoft
SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713);
 Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:51:08 -0400
X-Message-Info: 6sXHvz904qYP/ykHtcnKNfQDbcfmM5Kz
Received: from chine ([35.244.222.136])
by hqv74-mail.chicano.winsome.compulsion.cable.rogers.com
(InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 288-855-644-873-410-51311973) with ESMTP
id
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
for [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 Tue, 17 Aug 2004 21:49:50 +0100
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Elba Lackey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Elba Lackey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bill Gates didnt get one either
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 02:45:50 +0600
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary=--05066188562662264
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Sep 2004 20:51:11.0635 (UTC)
FILETIME=[10876E30:01C49CF8]

I can't find any descriptions for the exploit on the
F-Prot site nor on Google.

Thanks,

Matt



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