Re: [libreoffice-design] "Challenge Continues"-Banner

2011-03-02 Thread Tobias Bernard
thanks:)

concerning your suggestion:
why don't you like the background gradient? and what would you suggest
as replacement for it?

i didn't really understand this:
"but putting some floor's (or even border's) shadows on the document
symbol"

do you mean a shadow for the document symbol? i tried that but didn't
like it, because i think it breaks the "document" style a bit.

greetings
tobias

Am Dienstag, den 01.03.2011, 00:50 -0300 schrieb Paulo José:
> Hi Tobias,
> 
> Very quickly reply: I like very much your banner! I think it's very 
> attractive, simple and absolutely nice! :D
> My only suggestion is to take off the radial light gradient in the 
> middle of the background. Or keep it, but putting some floor's (or even 
> border's) shadows on the document symbol. I think it's worth to try. :)
> 
> ~Paulo
> 
> On 27-02-2011 11:26, Tobias Bernard wrote:
> > hi
> >
> > the word cloud thing is a bit tricky...
> > if it is well readable, it doesn't look very good, and if it looks good
> > you can't really read it^^
> >
> > i tried to have a a bit of both in the new version.
> > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Libo-challengecontinues-banner-by-tobias.png
> >
> > the space between the words is bigger now, and different for every word.
> > this improves the "word cloud impression" a bit, but it is still
> > readable.
> > i hope the space between "donate now" and the document symbol is big
> > enough now;)
> >
> >
> >
> > Am Sonntag, den 27.02.2011, 00:38 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
> >> Tobias Bernard schrieb:
> >>> ok, i've reworked the banner, trying to consider all your suggestions,
> >>> but i didn't understand what's wrong with the spacing (point one in the
> >>> guidelines)
> >> The distance of the logo (in your case the symbol at the bottom of the
> >> banner) to every graphical element outside the logo shouldn't be less
> >> than half the width of the symbol.
> >>
> >> As the symbol reached nearly the borders of the banner, elements put
> >> beside the banner could have compromised the symbol - reducing the
> >> visual impression we want to achieve with our logo and it's elements.
> >>
> >> But in your new version (I add the link again:
> >> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Libo-challengecontinues-banner-by-tobias.png)
> >> this is much better! Only the vertical distance especially to the
> >> "Donate now!" badge is a bit small.
> >>
> >>> if you have futher suggestions, just tell me ;)
> >>>
> >> The word cloud is much easier to read :-)
> >>
> >> Unfortunately this reduces the impression of a word cloud a bit. Did you
> >> try to have a bit more space between the single words?
> >>
> >> I don't know, if this works and stays readable - perhaps with more
> >> different font sizes, using green and large font for one word only, some
> >> smaller and green, some larger and grey?
> >>
> >> Just an idea - might be totally wrong...
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >>
> >> Bernhard
> >>
> > ps: why does the the svg file have such an ugly preview?
> >> The preview is better than none as we had it on the OOo wiki ;-)
> >>
> >> But honestly I don't know. Some SVG images are rendered well, Some other
> >> have problems with text and underlying graphics, some don't show the SVG
> >> at all. Turning the text into path helps sometimes, but this is no
> >> option for text we probably want to modify / translate  later on.
> >>
> >
> >
> 
> -- 
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> Computer Science Student
> Federal University of São João del-Rei
> WebDesigner / Linked Empresa Júnior
> Blogger / casatwain.com
> 



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Re: [libreoffice-design] "Challenge Continues"-Banner

2011-02-28 Thread Paulo José

Hi Tobias,

Very quickly reply: I like very much your banner! I think it's very 
attractive, simple and absolutely nice! :D
My only suggestion is to take off the radial light gradient in the 
middle of the background. Or keep it, but putting some floor's (or even 
border's) shadows on the document symbol. I think it's worth to try. :)


~Paulo

On 27-02-2011 11:26, Tobias Bernard wrote:

hi

the word cloud thing is a bit tricky...
if it is well readable, it doesn't look very good, and if it looks good
you can't really read it^^

i tried to have a a bit of both in the new version.
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Libo-challengecontinues-banner-by-tobias.png

the space between the words is bigger now, and different for every word.
this improves the "word cloud impression" a bit, but it is still
readable.
i hope the space between "donate now" and the document symbol is big
enough now;)



Am Sonntag, den 27.02.2011, 00:38 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Dippold:

Tobias Bernard schrieb:

ok, i've reworked the banner, trying to consider all your suggestions,
but i didn't understand what's wrong with the spacing (point one in the
guidelines)

The distance of the logo (in your case the symbol at the bottom of the
banner) to every graphical element outside the logo shouldn't be less
than half the width of the symbol.

As the symbol reached nearly the borders of the banner, elements put
beside the banner could have compromised the symbol - reducing the
visual impression we want to achieve with our logo and it's elements.

But in your new version (I add the link again:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Libo-challengecontinues-banner-by-tobias.png)
this is much better! Only the vertical distance especially to the
"Donate now!" badge is a bit small.


if you have futher suggestions, just tell me ;)


The word cloud is much easier to read :-)

Unfortunately this reduces the impression of a word cloud a bit. Did you
try to have a bit more space between the single words?

I don't know, if this works and stays readable - perhaps with more
different font sizes, using green and large font for one word only, some
smaller and green, some larger and grey?

Just an idea - might be totally wrong...

Best regards

Bernhard


ps: why does the the svg file have such an ugly preview?

The preview is better than none as we had it on the OOo wiki ;-)

But honestly I don't know. Some SVG images are rendered well, Some other
have problems with text and underlying graphics, some don't show the SVG
at all. Turning the text into path helps sometimes, but this is no
option for text we probably want to modify / translate  later on.






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Re: [libreoffice-design] "Challenge Continues"-Banner

2011-02-27 Thread Tobias Bernard
hi

the word cloud thing is a bit tricky...
if it is well readable, it doesn't look very good, and if it looks good
you can't really read it^^

i tried to have a a bit of both in the new version.
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Libo-challengecontinues-banner-by-tobias.png

the space between the words is bigger now, and different for every word.
this improves the "word cloud impression" a bit, but it is still
readable.
i hope the space between "donate now" and the document symbol is big
enough now;)



Am Sonntag, den 27.02.2011, 00:38 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
> Tobias Bernard schrieb:
> > ok, i've reworked the banner, trying to consider all your suggestions,
> > but i didn't understand what's wrong with the spacing (point one in the
> > guidelines)
> 
> The distance of the logo (in your case the symbol at the bottom of the 
> banner) to every graphical element outside the logo shouldn't be less 
> than half the width of the symbol.
> 
> As the symbol reached nearly the borders of the banner, elements put 
> beside the banner could have compromised the symbol - reducing the 
> visual impression we want to achieve with our logo and it's elements.
> 
> But in your new version (I add the link again: 
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Libo-challengecontinues-banner-by-tobias.png)
>  
> this is much better! Only the vertical distance especially to the 
> "Donate now!" badge is a bit small.
> 
> >
> > if you have futher suggestions, just tell me ;)
> >
> The word cloud is much easier to read :-)
> 
> Unfortunately this reduces the impression of a word cloud a bit. Did you 
> try to have a bit more space between the single words?
> 
> I don't know, if this works and stays readable - perhaps with more 
> different font sizes, using green and large font for one word only, some 
> smaller and green, some larger and grey?
> 
> Just an idea - might be totally wrong...
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Bernhard
> 
> >>>
> >>> ps: why does the the svg file have such an ugly preview?
> 
> The preview is better than none as we had it on the OOo wiki ;-)
> 
> But honestly I don't know. Some SVG images are rendered well, Some other 
> have problems with text and underlying graphics, some don't show the SVG 
> at all. Turning the text into path helps sometimes, but this is no 
> option for text we probably want to modify / translate  later on.
> 



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Re: [libreoffice-design] "Challenge Continues"-Banner

2011-02-27 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-02-26 16:40, Tobias Bernard a écrit :

hi

i don't know if we have enough fundraising banners yet, but here's one
more;)

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Libo-challengecontinues-banner-by-tobias.png
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Libo-banner-challenge-continues.svg

greetings
tobias

ps: why does the the svg file have such an ugly preview?




Looks great! It would be nice to have this approved once it is accepted.

+1

Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-design] "Challenge Continues"-Banner

2011-02-26 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Tobias Bernard schrieb:

ok, i've reworked the banner, trying to consider all your suggestions,
but i didn't understand what's wrong with the spacing (point one in the
guidelines)


The distance of the logo (in your case the symbol at the bottom of the 
banner) to every graphical element outside the logo shouldn't be less 
than half the width of the symbol.


As the symbol reached nearly the borders of the banner, elements put 
beside the banner could have compromised the symbol - reducing the 
visual impression we want to achieve with our logo and it's elements.


But in your new version (I add the link again: 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Libo-challengecontinues-banner-by-tobias.png) 
this is much better! Only the vertical distance especially to the 
"Donate now!" badge is a bit small.




if you have futher suggestions, just tell me ;)


The word cloud is much easier to read :-)

Unfortunately this reduces the impression of a word cloud a bit. Did you 
try to have a bit more space between the single words?


I don't know, if this works and stays readable - perhaps with more 
different font sizes, using green and large font for one word only, some 
smaller and green, some larger and grey?


Just an idea - might be totally wrong...

Best regards

Bernhard



ps: why does the the svg file have such an ugly preview?


The preview is better than none as we had it on the OOo wiki ;-)

But honestly I don't know. Some SVG images are rendered well, Some other 
have problems with text and underlying graphics, some don't show the SVG 
at all. Turning the text into path helps sometimes, but this is no 
option for text we probably want to modify / translate  later on.


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Re: [libreoffice-design] "Challenge Continues"-Banner

2011-02-26 Thread Tobias Bernard
ok, i've reworked the banner, trying to consider all your suggestions,
but i didn't understand what's wrong with the spacing (point one in the
guidelines)

if you have futher suggestions, just tell me ;)


Am Samstag, den 26.02.2011, 23:22 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
> Hi Tobias, all
> 
> Tobias Bernard schrieb:
> > hi
> >
> > i don't know if we have enough fundraising banners yet,
> 
> Of course not!
> 
> But we need more different formats (as mentioned on the wiki page).
> 
> > but here's one
> > more;)
> 
> Thank you for your work!
> >
> > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Libo-challengecontinues-banner-by-tobias.png
> > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Libo-banner-challenge-continues.svg
> 
> I like the general impression and the color language of green and grey - 
> this perfectly fits to our branding in a way that doesn't mimic our website.
> 
> But there are some points I have to comment:
> 
> As the banner should be used on external sites, we  should remove the 
> subline "The Document Foundation" form the logo. This subline should be 
> reserved for our product and community, the websites 
> www.documentfoundation.org and www.libreoffice.org and officially 
> announced spokespeople.
> 
> The word cloud is a great idea - I like it very much. But as the size of 
> the words differ not very much, it is hard to get any information from 
> that part. You have to follow the line of words - a bit tricky for the 
> average visitor of a website. The green words stand out quite well, but 
> "Help" and "Office" wont tell them not very much.
> 
> Perhaps we could try to reduce the size of some words and emphasize 
> "create" (and "best", perhaps "office suite" too) by relative size and / 
> or color.
> 
> With regards to the symbol I'd ask you to have a look at the branding 
> guidelines:
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Guidelines_and_Best_Practices
> 
> (especially the first and fifth entry about whitespace and elements 
> inside the symbol).
> 
> But as I already mentioned: The general impression is great. It might 
> become the basis for a long-term banner to be used by marketing and web 
> representation.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Bernhard
> >
> > greetings
> > tobias
> >
> > ps: why does the the svg file have such an ugly preview?
> >
> >
> 
> 



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Re: [libreoffice-design] "Challenge Continues"-Banner

2011-02-26 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi Tobias, all

Tobias Bernard schrieb:

hi

i don't know if we have enough fundraising banners yet,


Of course not!

But we need more different formats (as mentioned on the wiki page).


but here's one
more;)


Thank you for your work!


http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Libo-challengecontinues-banner-by-tobias.png
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Libo-banner-challenge-continues.svg


I like the general impression and the color language of green and grey - 
this perfectly fits to our branding in a way that doesn't mimic our website.


But there are some points I have to comment:

As the banner should be used on external sites, we  should remove the 
subline "The Document Foundation" form the logo. This subline should be 
reserved for our product and community, the websites 
www.documentfoundation.org and www.libreoffice.org and officially 
announced spokespeople.


The word cloud is a great idea - I like it very much. But as the size of 
the words differ not very much, it is hard to get any information from 
that part. You have to follow the line of words - a bit tricky for the 
average visitor of a website. The green words stand out quite well, but 
"Help" and "Office" wont tell them not very much.


Perhaps we could try to reduce the size of some words and emphasize 
"create" (and "best", perhaps "office suite" too) by relative size and / 
or color.


With regards to the symbol I'd ask you to have a look at the branding 
guidelines:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Guidelines_and_Best_Practices

(especially the first and fifth entry about whitespace and elements 
inside the symbol).


But as I already mentioned: The general impression is great. It might 
become the basis for a long-term banner to be used by marketing and web 
representation.


Best regards

Bernhard


greetings
tobias

ps: why does the the svg file have such an ugly preview?





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[libreoffice-design] "Challenge Continues"-Banner

2011-02-26 Thread Tobias Bernard
hi

i don't know if we have enough fundraising banners yet, but here's one
more;)

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Libo-challengecontinues-banner-by-tobias.png
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Libo-banner-challenge-continues.svg

greetings
tobias

ps: why does the the svg file have such an ugly preview? 


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