Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
Thank you, Jesse, for recommending me as the next Apache Cordova PMC Chair. I also want to express my gratitude to everyone else who voted and entrusted me with this role. I'm excited to continue contributing to this amazing project and to fulfill the responsibilities of the PMC Chair. Looking forward to achieving more releases and further developing the Apache Cordova project. Bryan Ellis > On Dec 8, 2023, at 16:20, Jesse wrote: > > Thank you all. > It appears we have consensus (and PMC member votes). > According to "How to change your PMC's Chair" I have prepared the > resolution below that I will send in 24 hours. > The change should be in effect if the Board approves it, at the next > Board meeting on Dec 20, 2023 > > - > # Change Cordova Chair > > ## Resolution to change the chair of a project > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors heretofore appointed Jesse MacFadyen > (purplecabbage) to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors is in receipt of the resignation of > Jesse MacFadyen from the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and > > WHEREAS, the Project Management Committee of the Apache Cordova project > has chosen by vote to recommend Bryan Ellis (erisu) as the successor to > the post; > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that Jesse MacFadyen is relieved and > discharged from the duties and responsibilities of the office of Vice > President, Apache Cordova, and > > BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Bryan Ellis be and hereby is appointed to > the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, to serve in accordance > with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the > Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal > or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed. > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 5:36 AM Shazron wrote: > >> +1 ! >> Bryan will be great. >> Thank you Jesse for your service! >> >> >> On 2 Dec 2023 at 8:17:57 AM, Tim Brust wrote: >> >>> +1 >>> >>> Bryan has been a great a team member and remains dedicated towards the >>> development since years! >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 5:36 PM Norman Breau wrote: >>> >>> +1 >>> >>> >>> On 2023-11-29 9:52 p.m., Jesse wrote: >>> Hello friends! I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around >>> December of 2018, roughly 5 years. My duties of late have been mostly >>> administrative: board reports, PMC management etc. Some of it is listed >>> here in the README: >>> >>> https://github.com/apache/cordova-apache-board-reports >>> I think it is time for new leadership and I have decided to resign my >>> duties as the Apache Cordova chair. I formally nominate Bryan Ellis as >>> >>> the >>> next chair. >>> Bryan has been a consistently motivated contributor to the project and >>> >>> has >>> been diligently pushing through many of our releases over the last >>> >>> several >>> years. I believe Bryan will be great in this new role and I will do my >>> best to help him. Bryan is very familiar with and helps uphold 'The >>> >>> Apache >>> Way' >>> (https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html) and he will be a >>> great liaison with the Board. I won't be far, I plan to remain in the >>> community and will always be reachable, though I am going to be more >>> focused on personal goals. I am always available to answer questions >>> >>> and >>> help sort issues. Cheers, >>> Jesse >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org >>> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
Thank you all. It appears we have consensus (and PMC member votes). According to "How to change your PMC's Chair" I have prepared the resolution below that I will send in 24 hours. The change should be in effect if the Board approves it, at the next Board meeting on Dec 20, 2023 - # Change Cordova Chair ## Resolution to change the chair of a project WHEREAS, the Board of Directors heretofore appointed Jesse MacFadyen (purplecabbage) to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and WHEREAS, the Board of Directors is in receipt of the resignation of Jesse MacFadyen from the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and WHEREAS, the Project Management Committee of the Apache Cordova project has chosen by vote to recommend Bryan Ellis (erisu) as the successor to the post; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that Jesse MacFadyen is relieved and discharged from the duties and responsibilities of the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Bryan Ellis be and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed. On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 5:36 AM Shazron wrote: > +1 ! > Bryan will be great. > Thank you Jesse for your service! > > > On 2 Dec 2023 at 8:17:57 AM, Tim Brust wrote: > > > +1 > > > > Bryan has been a great a team member and remains dedicated towards the > > development since years! > > > > On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 5:36 PM Norman Breau wrote: > > > > +1 > > > > > > On 2023-11-29 9:52 p.m., Jesse wrote: > > > > > Hello friends! I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around > > > > > December of 2018, roughly 5 years. My duties of late have been mostly > > > > > administrative: board reports, PMC management etc. Some of it is listed > > > > > here in the README: > > > > https://github.com/apache/cordova-apache-board-reports > > > > > I think it is time for new leadership and I have decided to resign my > > > > > duties as the Apache Cordova chair. I formally nominate Bryan Ellis as > > > > the > > > > > next chair. > > > > > Bryan has been a consistently motivated contributor to the project and > > > > has > > > > > been diligently pushing through many of our releases over the last > > > > several > > > > > years. I believe Bryan will be great in this new role and I will do my > > > > > best to help him. Bryan is very familiar with and helps uphold 'The > > > > Apache > > > > > Way' > > > > > (https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html) and he will be a > > > > > great liaison with the Board. I won't be far, I plan to remain in the > > > > > community and will always be reachable, though I am going to be more > > > > > focused on personal goals. I am always available to answer questions > > > > and > > > > > help sort issues. Cheers, > > > > >Jesse > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > > > > > > > >
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
+1 ! Bryan will be great. Thank you Jesse for your service! On 2 Dec 2023 at 8:17:57 AM, Tim Brust wrote: > +1 > > Bryan has been a great a team member and remains dedicated towards the > development since years! > > On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 5:36 PM Norman Breau wrote: > > +1 > > > On 2023-11-29 9:52 p.m., Jesse wrote: > > > Hello friends! I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around > > > December of 2018, roughly 5 years. My duties of late have been mostly > > > administrative: board reports, PMC management etc. Some of it is listed > > > here in the README: > > https://github.com/apache/cordova-apache-board-reports > > > I think it is time for new leadership and I have decided to resign my > > > duties as the Apache Cordova chair. I formally nominate Bryan Ellis as > > the > > > next chair. > > > Bryan has been a consistently motivated contributor to the project and > > has > > > been diligently pushing through many of our releases over the last > > several > > > years. I believe Bryan will be great in this new role and I will do my > > > best to help him. Bryan is very familiar with and helps uphold 'The > > Apache > > > Way' > > > (https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html) and he will be a > > > great liaison with the Board. I won't be far, I plan to remain in the > > > community and will always be reachable, though I am going to be more > > > focused on personal goals. I am always available to answer questions > > and > > > help sort issues. Cheers, > > >Jesse > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > > >
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
+1 Bryan has been a great a team member and remains dedicated towards the development since years! On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 5:36 PM Norman Breau wrote: > +1 > > On 2023-11-29 9:52 p.m., Jesse wrote: > > Hello friends! I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around > > December of 2018, roughly 5 years. My duties of late have been mostly > > administrative: board reports, PMC management etc. Some of it is listed > > here in the README: > https://github.com/apache/cordova-apache-board-reports > > I think it is time for new leadership and I have decided to resign my > > duties as the Apache Cordova chair. I formally nominate Bryan Ellis as > the > > next chair. > > Bryan has been a consistently motivated contributor to the project and > has > > been diligently pushing through many of our releases over the last > several > > years. I believe Bryan will be great in this new role and I will do my > > best to help him. Bryan is very familiar with and helps uphold 'The > Apache > > Way' > > (https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html) and he will be a > > great liaison with the Board. I won't be far, I plan to remain in the > > community and will always be reachable, though I am going to be more > > focused on personal goals. I am always available to answer questions > and > > help sort issues. Cheers, > >Jesse > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > >
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
+1 On 2023-11-29 9:52 p.m., Jesse wrote: Hello friends! I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around December of 2018, roughly 5 years. My duties of late have been mostly administrative: board reports, PMC management etc. Some of it is listed here in the README: https://github.com/apache/cordova-apache-board-reports I think it is time for new leadership and I have decided to resign my duties as the Apache Cordova chair. I formally nominate Bryan Ellis as the next chair. Bryan has been a consistently motivated contributor to the project and has been diligently pushing through many of our releases over the last several years. I believe Bryan will be great in this new role and I will do my best to help him. Bryan is very familiar with and helps uphold 'The Apache Way' (https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html) and he will be a great liaison with the Board. I won't be far, I plan to remain in the community and will always be reachable, though I am going to be more focused on personal goals. I am always available to answer questions and help sort issues. Cheers, Jesse - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
+1 for Bryan Ellis nomination as the new chair! On 2023/11/30 10:52, Jesse wrote: Hello friends! I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around December of 2018, roughly 5 years. My duties of late have been mostly administrative: board reports, PMC management etc. Some of it is listed here in the README: https://github.com/apache/cordova-apache-board-reports I think it is time for new leadership and I have decided to resign my duties as the Apache Cordova chair. I formally nominate Bryan Ellis as the next chair. Bryan has been a consistently motivated contributor to the project and has been diligently pushing through many of our releases over the last several years. I believe Bryan will be great in this new role and I will do my best to help him. Bryan is very familiar with and helps uphold 'The Apache Way' (https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html) and he will be a great liaison with the Board. I won't be far, I plan to remain in the community and will always be reachable, though I am going to be more focused on personal goals. I am always available to answer questions and help sort issues. Cheers, Jesse - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
+1 for Bryan Ellis nomination. He is very active in the community as well. Thanks Jesse and team for all the support. On Thu, 30 Nov 2023 at 21:08, Niklas Merz wrote: > +1 for nominating Bryan Ellis as the new chair > > Bryan is a great choice as he has been doing lots of important work for > a very long time. > > Thanks Jesse for being chair of this PMC for those 5 years. It's great > to have you around if we need advice from someone who knows the > internals and history of Cordova. > > On November 30, 2023, Jesse wrote: > > Hello friends! I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around > > December of 2018, roughly 5 years. My duties of late have been mostly > > administrative: board reports, PMC management etc. Some of it is > > listed > > here in the README: https://github.com/apache/cordova-apache-board- > > reports > > I think it is time for new leadership and I have decided to resign my > > duties as the Apache Cordova chair. I formally nominate Bryan Ellis as > > the > > next chair. > > Bryan has been a consistently motivated contributor to the project and > > has > > been diligently pushing through many of our releases over the last > > several > > years. I believe Bryan will be great in this new role and I will do my > > best to help him. Bryan is very familiar with and helps uphold 'The > > Apache > > Way' > > (https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html) and he will be a > > great liaison with the Board. I won't be far, I plan to remain in the > > community and will always be reachable, though I am going to be more > > focused on personal goals. I am always available to answer questions > > and > > help sort issues. Cheers, > > Jesse > -- Regards, Gandhi "The best way to find urself is to lose urself in the service of others !!!"
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
+1 for nominating Bryan Ellis as the new chair Bryan is a great choice as he has been doing lots of important work for a very long time. Thanks Jesse for being chair of this PMC for those 5 years. It's great to have you around if we need advice from someone who knows the internals and history of Cordova. On November 30, 2023, Jesse wrote: > Hello friends! I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around > December of 2018, roughly 5 years. My duties of late have been mostly > administrative: board reports, PMC management etc. Some of it is > listed > here in the README: https://github.com/apache/cordova-apache-board- > reports > I think it is time for new leadership and I have decided to resign my > duties as the Apache Cordova chair. I formally nominate Bryan Ellis as > the > next chair. > Bryan has been a consistently motivated contributor to the project and > has > been diligently pushing through many of our releases over the last > several > years. I believe Bryan will be great in this new role and I will do my > best to help him. Bryan is very familiar with and helps uphold 'The > Apache > Way' > (https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html) and he will be a > great liaison with the Board. I won't be far, I plan to remain in the > community and will always be reachable, though I am going to be more > focused on personal goals. I am always available to answer questions > and > help sort issues. Cheers, > Jesse
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
Now, now -- there's plenty of money in open source, that's why! See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyeWRd7ZEBs On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 6:27 PM Jesse wrote: > > Thank you Shazron for your continuous and unwavering commitment to > Apache Cordova, you leave heavy shoes to fill and I am not only > grateful to have walked all this way beside you, but to have you walk > beside me for the next stretch > > I am deeply honored by the support I have seen (and felt) in this > thread and graciously accept this nomination. > I'll continued to do my best for both Cordova and Apache. > > In homage to Shaz, Ill close with > .. my gratitude in an 80's song - a classic by the Pet Shop Boys and > Dusty Springfield: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn9E5i7l-Eg > > > On Dec 10, 2018, at 7:27 PM, Shazron wrote: > >> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newchair > >> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 11:26 AM Shazron wrote: > >> > >> Thank you everyone. > >> It looks like we have consensus (and votes by PMC members). > >> According to "How to change your PMC's Chair" I have prepared the > >> resolution below that I will send in 24 hours. > >> The change should be in effect if the Board approves it, at the next Board > >> meeting on Dec 19, 2018 > >> > >> > >> - > >> > >> ## Resolution to change the chair of a project > >> > >> A. Change the Apache Cordova Project Chair > >> > >> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors heretofore appointed Shazron Abdullah > >> (shazron) to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and > >> > >> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors is in receipt of the resignation > >> of Shazron Abdullah from the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, > >> and > >> > >> WHEREAS, the Project Management Committee of the Apache Cordova > >> project has chosen by vote to recommend Jesse MacFadyen > >> (purplecabbage) as > >> the successor to the post; > >> > >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that Shazron Abdullah is relieved and > >> discharged from the duties and responsibilities of the office > >> of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and > >> > >> BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Jesse MacFadyen be and hereby is > >> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, to > >> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the > >> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until > >> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or > >> until a successor is appointed. > >> > >>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:56 AM Simon MacDonald > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> +1 to Jesse taking over as chair. Also, thanks for everything you've done > >>> for Apache Cordova over the years Shaz. > >>> > >>> Simon Mac Donald > >>> http://simonmacdonald.com > >>> > >>> > On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 9:30 PM Shazron wrote: > > Hello beloved Community! > I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around April 2014 (~4.5 > years). > > The duties are mostly administrative: board reports, PMC management > etc. Some of it is listed here in the README: > https://github.com/apache/cordova-apache-board-reports > > I think it is time for new leadership. I have decided to resign my > duties as the Apache Cordova chair, hopefully for the upcoming new > year of 2019. > > I nominate Jesse MacFadyen as the next chair. Jesse has been with me > at the start when Cordova was PhoneGap. Although we didn't give birth > to it, we helped work on improving Cordova from being an infant to > adulthood (together with our great team), particularly on cordova-ios. > 10 years is adulthood in software! > > He has also contributed greatly to the other platforms and tooling, > particularly cordova-windows. He has the most experience with helping > run the Cordova project out of the remaining active contributors. > > As an Apache Member (https://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html) > he also understands and helps uphold 'The Apache Way' > (https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html) and will be a > great liaison with the Board. > > I'm not going anywhere and I will still contribute to the project in > my areas of expertise. > > Thank you. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org >
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
Thank you Shazron for your continuous and unwavering commitment to Apache Cordova, you leave heavy shoes to fill and I am not only grateful to have walked all this way beside you, but to have you walk beside me for the next stretch I am deeply honored by the support I have seen (and felt) in this thread and graciously accept this nomination. I'll continued to do my best for both Cordova and Apache. In homage to Shaz, Ill close with .. my gratitude in an 80's song - a classic by the Pet Shop Boys and Dusty Springfield: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn9E5i7l-Eg > On Dec 10, 2018, at 7:27 PM, Shazron wrote: >> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newchair >> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 11:26 AM Shazron wrote: >> >> Thank you everyone. >> It looks like we have consensus (and votes by PMC members). >> According to "How to change your PMC's Chair" I have prepared the resolution >> below that I will send in 24 hours. >> The change should be in effect if the Board approves it, at the next Board >> meeting on Dec 19, 2018 >> >> >> - >> >> ## Resolution to change the chair of a project >> >> A. Change the Apache Cordova Project Chair >> >> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors heretofore appointed Shazron Abdullah >> (shazron) to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and >> >> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors is in receipt of the resignation >> of Shazron Abdullah from the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, >> and >> >> WHEREAS, the Project Management Committee of the Apache Cordova >> project has chosen by vote to recommend Jesse MacFadyen (purplecabbage) >> as >> the successor to the post; >> >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that Shazron Abdullah is relieved and >> discharged from the duties and responsibilities of the office >> of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and >> >> BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Jesse MacFadyen be and hereby is >> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, to >> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the >> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until >> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or >> until a successor is appointed. >> >>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:56 AM Simon MacDonald >>> wrote: >>> >>> +1 to Jesse taking over as chair. Also, thanks for everything you've done >>> for Apache Cordova over the years Shaz. >>> >>> Simon Mac Donald >>> http://simonmacdonald.com >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 9:30 PM Shazron wrote: Hello beloved Community! I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around April 2014 (~4.5 years). The duties are mostly administrative: board reports, PMC management etc. Some of it is listed here in the README: https://github.com/apache/cordova-apache-board-reports I think it is time for new leadership. I have decided to resign my duties as the Apache Cordova chair, hopefully for the upcoming new year of 2019. I nominate Jesse MacFadyen as the next chair. Jesse has been with me at the start when Cordova was PhoneGap. Although we didn't give birth to it, we helped work on improving Cordova from being an infant to adulthood (together with our great team), particularly on cordova-ios. 10 years is adulthood in software! He has also contributed greatly to the other platforms and tooling, particularly cordova-windows. He has the most experience with helping run the Cordova project out of the remaining active contributors. As an Apache Member (https://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html) he also understands and helps uphold 'The Apache Way' (https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html) and will be a great liaison with the Board. I'm not going anywhere and I will still contribute to the project in my areas of expertise. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
Thank you Shaz for your continuous and unwavering commitment to Apache Cordova. I am flattered by your > On Dec 10, 2018, at 7:27 PM, Shazron wrote: > > http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newchair >> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 11:26 AM Shazron wrote: >> >> Thank you everyone. >> It looks like we have consensus (and votes by PMC members). >> According to "How to change your PMC's Chair" I have prepared the resolution >> below that I will send in 24 hours. >> The change should be in effect if the Board approves it, at the next Board >> meeting on Dec 19, 2018 >> >> >> - >> >> ## Resolution to change the chair of a project >> >> A. Change the Apache Cordova Project Chair >> >> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors heretofore appointed Shazron Abdullah >> (shazron) to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and >> >> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors is in receipt of the resignation >> of Shazron Abdullah from the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, >> and >> >> WHEREAS, the Project Management Committee of the Apache Cordova >> project has chosen by vote to recommend Jesse MacFadyen (purplecabbage) >> as >> the successor to the post; >> >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that Shazron Abdullah is relieved and >> discharged from the duties and responsibilities of the office >> of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and >> >> BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Jesse MacFadyen be and hereby is >> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, to >> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the >> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until >> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or >> until a successor is appointed. >> >>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:56 AM Simon MacDonald >>> wrote: >>> >>> +1 to Jesse taking over as chair. Also, thanks for everything you've done >>> for Apache Cordova over the years Shaz. >>> >>> Simon Mac Donald >>> http://simonmacdonald.com >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 9:30 PM Shazron wrote: Hello beloved Community! I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around April 2014 (~4.5 years). The duties are mostly administrative: board reports, PMC management etc. Some of it is listed here in the README: https://github.com/apache/cordova-apache-board-reports I think it is time for new leadership. I have decided to resign my duties as the Apache Cordova chair, hopefully for the upcoming new year of 2019. I nominate Jesse MacFadyen as the next chair. Jesse has been with me at the start when Cordova was PhoneGap. Although we didn't give birth to it, we helped work on improving Cordova from being an infant to adulthood (together with our great team), particularly on cordova-ios. 10 years is adulthood in software! He has also contributed greatly to the other platforms and tooling, particularly cordova-windows. He has the most experience with helping run the Cordova project out of the remaining active contributors. As an Apache Member (https://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html) he also understands and helps uphold 'The Apache Way' (https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html) and will be a great liaison with the Board. I'm not going anywhere and I will still contribute to the project in my areas of expertise. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newchair On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 11:26 AM Shazron wrote: > > Thank you everyone. > It looks like we have consensus (and votes by PMC members). > According to "How to change your PMC's Chair" I have prepared the resolution > below that I will send in 24 hours. > The change should be in effect if the Board approves it, at the next Board > meeting on Dec 19, 2018 > > > - > > ## Resolution to change the chair of a project > > A. Change the Apache Cordova Project Chair > >WHEREAS, the Board of Directors heretofore appointed Shazron Abdullah > (shazron) to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and > >WHEREAS, the Board of Directors is in receipt of the resignation >of Shazron Abdullah from the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, >and > >WHEREAS, the Project Management Committee of the Apache Cordova >project has chosen by vote to recommend Jesse MacFadyen > (purplecabbage) as >the successor to the post; > >NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that Shazron Abdullah is relieved and >discharged from the duties and responsibilities of the office >of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and > >BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Jesse MacFadyen be and hereby is >appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, to >serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the >Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until >death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or >until a successor is appointed. > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:56 AM Simon MacDonald > wrote: > > > > +1 to Jesse taking over as chair. Also, thanks for everything you've done > > for Apache Cordova over the years Shaz. > > > > Simon Mac Donald > > http://simonmacdonald.com > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 9:30 PM Shazron wrote: > > > > > Hello beloved Community! > > > I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around April 2014 (~4.5 > > > years). > > > > > > The duties are mostly administrative: board reports, PMC management > > > etc. Some of it is listed here in the README: > > > https://github.com/apache/cordova-apache-board-reports > > > > > > I think it is time for new leadership. I have decided to resign my > > > duties as the Apache Cordova chair, hopefully for the upcoming new > > > year of 2019. > > > > > > I nominate Jesse MacFadyen as the next chair. Jesse has been with me > > > at the start when Cordova was PhoneGap. Although we didn't give birth > > > to it, we helped work on improving Cordova from being an infant to > > > adulthood (together with our great team), particularly on cordova-ios. > > > 10 years is adulthood in software! > > > > > > He has also contributed greatly to the other platforms and tooling, > > > particularly cordova-windows. He has the most experience with helping > > > run the Cordova project out of the remaining active contributors. > > > > > > As an Apache Member (https://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html) > > > he also understands and helps uphold 'The Apache Way' > > > (https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html) and will be a > > > great liaison with the Board. > > > > > > I'm not going anywhere and I will still contribute to the project in > > > my areas of expertise. > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > > > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
Thank you everyone. It looks like we have consensus (and votes by PMC members). According to "How to change your PMC's Chair" I have prepared the resolution below that I will send in 24 hours. The change should be in effect if the Board approves it, at the next Board meeting on Dec 19, 2018 - ## Resolution to change the chair of a project A. Change the Apache Cordova Project Chair WHEREAS, the Board of Directors heretofore appointed Shazron Abdullah (shazron) to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and WHEREAS, the Board of Directors is in receipt of the resignation of Shazron Abdullah from the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and WHEREAS, the Project Management Committee of the Apache Cordova project has chosen by vote to recommend Jesse MacFadyen (purplecabbage) as the successor to the post; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that Shazron Abdullah is relieved and discharged from the duties and responsibilities of the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Jesse MacFadyen be and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed. On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:56 AM Simon MacDonald wrote: > > +1 to Jesse taking over as chair. Also, thanks for everything you've done > for Apache Cordova over the years Shaz. > > Simon Mac Donald > http://simonmacdonald.com > > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 9:30 PM Shazron wrote: > > > Hello beloved Community! > > I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around April 2014 (~4.5 > > years). > > > > The duties are mostly administrative: board reports, PMC management > > etc. Some of it is listed here in the README: > > https://github.com/apache/cordova-apache-board-reports > > > > I think it is time for new leadership. I have decided to resign my > > duties as the Apache Cordova chair, hopefully for the upcoming new > > year of 2019. > > > > I nominate Jesse MacFadyen as the next chair. Jesse has been with me > > at the start when Cordova was PhoneGap. Although we didn't give birth > > to it, we helped work on improving Cordova from being an infant to > > adulthood (together with our great team), particularly on cordova-ios. > > 10 years is adulthood in software! > > > > He has also contributed greatly to the other platforms and tooling, > > particularly cordova-windows. He has the most experience with helping > > run the Cordova project out of the remaining active contributors. > > > > As an Apache Member (https://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html) > > he also understands and helps uphold 'The Apache Way' > > (https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html) and will be a > > great liaison with the Board. > > > > I'm not going anywhere and I will still contribute to the project in > > my areas of expertise. > > > > Thank you. > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
+1 to Jesse taking over as chair. Also, thanks for everything you've done for Apache Cordova over the years Shaz. Simon Mac Donald http://simonmacdonald.com On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 9:30 PM Shazron wrote: > Hello beloved Community! > I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around April 2014 (~4.5 > years). > > The duties are mostly administrative: board reports, PMC management > etc. Some of it is listed here in the README: > https://github.com/apache/cordova-apache-board-reports > > I think it is time for new leadership. I have decided to resign my > duties as the Apache Cordova chair, hopefully for the upcoming new > year of 2019. > > I nominate Jesse MacFadyen as the next chair. Jesse has been with me > at the start when Cordova was PhoneGap. Although we didn't give birth > to it, we helped work on improving Cordova from being an infant to > adulthood (together with our great team), particularly on cordova-ios. > 10 years is adulthood in software! > > He has also contributed greatly to the other platforms and tooling, > particularly cordova-windows. He has the most experience with helping > run the Cordova project out of the remaining active contributors. > > As an Apache Member (https://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html) > he also understands and helps uphold 'The Apache Way' > (https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html) and will be a > great liaison with the Board. > > I'm not going anywhere and I will still contribute to the project in > my areas of expertise. > > Thank you. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > >
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
+1 Hello, Shazron, Thanks you for your hard work. I would like to appreciate your great job. On 2018/12/07 11:30, Shazron wrote: Hello beloved Community! I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around April 2014 (~4.5 years). The duties are mostly administrative: board reports, PMC management etc. Some of it is listed here in the README: https://github.com/apache/cordova-apache-board-reports I think it is time for new leadership. I have decided to resign my duties as the Apache Cordova chair, hopefully for the upcoming new year of 2019. I nominate Jesse MacFadyen as the next chair. Jesse has been with me at the start when Cordova was PhoneGap. Although we didn't give birth to it, we helped work on improving Cordova from being an infant to adulthood (together with our great team), particularly on cordova-ios. 10 years is adulthood in software! He has also contributed greatly to the other platforms and tooling, particularly cordova-windows. He has the most experience with helping run the Cordova project out of the remaining active contributors. As an Apache Member (https://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html) he also understands and helps uphold 'The Apache Way' (https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html) and will be a great liaison with the Board. I'm not going anywhere and I will still contribute to the project in my areas of expertise. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
+1 thank you shazron for all your work over the years. You’ve been an amazing steward, advocate and developer on the project. You should be proud. Jesse will always have my support. @ryanjsalva on github, linkedin, twitter, etc. 206.612.5079 Sent via From: Bryan Ellis Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 6:25 PM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova +1 Thank you for all your hard work in running the Cordova project these past 4.5 years. I am glad to support Jesse MacFadyen as the next chair. Looking forward to continuing working with you. Bryan > On Dec 7, 2018, at 11:30, Shazron wrote: > > Hello beloved Community! > I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around April 2014 (~4.5 years). > > The duties are mostly administrative: board reports, PMC management > etc. Some of it is listed here in the README: > https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fapache%2Fcordova-apache-board-reportsdata=02%7C01%7Crsalva%40microsoft.com%7C16a8ab3e2d67424946bc08d65cb47983%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636798327535115878sdata=h1F0zIq%2BemfIXPOoaqiKZyglqkDQlz2PbRYh13%2FQovU%3Dreserved=0 > > I think it is time for new leadership. I have decided to resign my > duties as the Apache Cordova chair, hopefully for the upcoming new > year of 2019. > > I nominate Jesse MacFadyen as the next chair. Jesse has been with me > at the start when Cordova was PhoneGap. Although we didn't give birth > to it, we helped work on improving Cordova from being an infant to > adulthood (together with our great team), particularly on cordova-ios. > 10 years is adulthood in software! > > He has also contributed greatly to the other platforms and tooling, > particularly cordova-windows. He has the most experience with helping > run the Cordova project out of the remaining active contributors. > > As an Apache Member > (https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.apache.org%2Ffoundation%2Fmembers.htmldata=02%7C01%7Crsalva%40microsoft.com%7C16a8ab3e2d67424946bc08d65cb47983%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636798327535115878sdata=IvFcAUxjRiTr%2BMSI06TjvyEhFeF1MuSnvHNfwJ%2Bkc8Q%3Dreserved=0) > he also understands and helps uphold 'The Apache Way' > (https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.apache.org%2Ffoundation%2Fhow-it-works.htmldata=02%7C01%7Crsalva%40microsoft.com%7C16a8ab3e2d67424946bc08d65cb47983%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636798327535115878sdata=w%2FfhAYZjx79%2FAYk8yPtRvkvgeQCGPPAzI5%2BKHlxxtus%3Dreserved=0) > and will be a > great liaison with the Board. > > I'm not going anywhere and I will still contribute to the project in > my areas of expertise. > > Thank you. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org >
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
+1 Thank you for all your hard work in running the Cordova project these past 4.5 years. I am glad to support Jesse MacFadyen as the next chair. Looking forward to continuing working with you. Bryan > On Dec 7, 2018, at 11:30, Shazron wrote: > > Hello beloved Community! > I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around April 2014 (~4.5 years). > > The duties are mostly administrative: board reports, PMC management > etc. Some of it is listed here in the README: > https://github.com/apache/cordova-apache-board-reports > > I think it is time for new leadership. I have decided to resign my > duties as the Apache Cordova chair, hopefully for the upcoming new > year of 2019. > > I nominate Jesse MacFadyen as the next chair. Jesse has been with me > at the start when Cordova was PhoneGap. Although we didn't give birth > to it, we helped work on improving Cordova from being an infant to > adulthood (together with our great team), particularly on cordova-ios. > 10 years is adulthood in software! > > He has also contributed greatly to the other platforms and tooling, > particularly cordova-windows. He has the most experience with helping > run the Cordova project out of the remaining active contributors. > > As an Apache Member (https://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html) > he also understands and helps uphold 'The Apache Way' > (https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html) and will be a > great liaison with the Board. > > I'm not going anywhere and I will still contribute to the project in > my areas of expertise. > > Thank you. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org >
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
+1 Thanks for your hard work steering Cordova. I think Jesse will do a great job continuing this role too. On Fri, 7 Dec 2018, at 17:31, kerrisho...@gmail.com wrote: > +1 > > Thanks for everything you’ve done for Cordova. Jesse will do an amazing > job, I have no doubt! > > Best, > ~ Kerri > > Sent from my phone. > > > > > > On Dec 7, 2018, at 08:36, Oliver Salzburg wrote: > > > > +1 > > > > Thanks for everything! > > > >> On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 10:22 AM Jan Piotrowski > >> wrote: > >> > >> +1 > >> > >> Thanks to you both! > >> Am Fr., 7. Dez. 2018 um 10:05 Uhr schrieb julio cesar sanchez > >> : > >>> > >>> +1 > >>> > >>> And thanks to you for all this years and to him for taking over > >>> > >>> El El vie, 7 dic 2018 a las 8:02, Toplak Daniel > >>> escribió: > >>> > Hello Shazron, > > thank you for your hard work the last few years and I will totally > >> agree > with the nomination of Jesse :-) > +1 > > Grüße / Regards > Daniel Toplak > Head of Mobile Development > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > Von: Shazron > > Gesendet: Friday, December 7, 2018 03:30 > > An: dev@cordova.apache.org > > Betreff: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova > > > > Hello beloved Community! > > I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around April 2014 (~4.5 > years). > > > > The duties are mostly administrative: board reports, PMC management > >> etc. > Some > > of it is listed here in the README: > > https://github.com/apache/cordova-apache-board-reports > > > > I think it is time for new leadership. I have decided to resign my > duties as the > > Apache Cordova chair, hopefully for the upcoming new year of 2019. > > > > I nominate Jesse MacFadyen as the next chair. Jesse has been with me > >> at > the start > > when Cordova was PhoneGap. Although we didn't give birth to it, we > helped work > > on improving Cordova from being an infant to adulthood (together with > our great > > team), particularly on cordova-ios. > > 10 years is adulthood in software! > > > > He has also contributed greatly to the other platforms and tooling, > particularly > > cordova-windows. He has the most experience with helping run the > >> Cordova > > project out of the remaining active contributors. > > > > As an Apache Member (https://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html) > > he also understands and helps uphold 'The Apache Way' > > (https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html) and will be a > great liaison > > with the Board. > > > > I'm not going anywhere and I will still contribute to the project in > >> my > areas of > > expertise. > > > > Thank you. > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > >> > >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
+1 Thanks for everything you’ve done for Cordova. Jesse will do an amazing job, I have no doubt! Best, ~ Kerri Sent from my phone. > On Dec 7, 2018, at 08:36, Oliver Salzburg wrote: > > +1 > > Thanks for everything! > >> On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 10:22 AM Jan Piotrowski wrote: >> >> +1 >> >> Thanks to you both! >> Am Fr., 7. Dez. 2018 um 10:05 Uhr schrieb julio cesar sanchez >> : >>> >>> +1 >>> >>> And thanks to you for all this years and to him for taking over >>> >>> El El vie, 7 dic 2018 a las 8:02, Toplak Daniel >>> escribió: >>> Hello Shazron, thank you for your hard work the last few years and I will totally >> agree with the nomination of Jesse :-) +1 Grüße / Regards Daniel Toplak Head of Mobile Development > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Shazron > Gesendet: Friday, December 7, 2018 03:30 > An: dev@cordova.apache.org > Betreff: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova > > Hello beloved Community! > I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around April 2014 (~4.5 years). > > The duties are mostly administrative: board reports, PMC management >> etc. Some > of it is listed here in the README: > https://github.com/apache/cordova-apache-board-reports > > I think it is time for new leadership. I have decided to resign my duties as the > Apache Cordova chair, hopefully for the upcoming new year of 2019. > > I nominate Jesse MacFadyen as the next chair. Jesse has been with me >> at the start > when Cordova was PhoneGap. Although we didn't give birth to it, we helped work > on improving Cordova from being an infant to adulthood (together with our great > team), particularly on cordova-ios. > 10 years is adulthood in software! > > He has also contributed greatly to the other platforms and tooling, particularly > cordova-windows. He has the most experience with helping run the >> Cordova > project out of the remaining active contributors. > > As an Apache Member (https://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html) > he also understands and helps uphold 'The Apache Way' > (https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html) and will be a great liaison > with the Board. > > I'm not going anywhere and I will still contribute to the project in >> my areas of > expertise. > > Thank you. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org >> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
+1 Thanks for everything! On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 10:22 AM Jan Piotrowski wrote: > +1 > > Thanks to you both! > Am Fr., 7. Dez. 2018 um 10:05 Uhr schrieb julio cesar sanchez > : > > > > +1 > > > > And thanks to you for all this years and to him for taking over > > > > El El vie, 7 dic 2018 a las 8:02, Toplak Daniel > > escribió: > > > > > Hello Shazron, > > > > > > thank you for your hard work the last few years and I will totally > agree > > > with the nomination of Jesse :-) > > > +1 > > > > > > Grüße / Regards > > > Daniel Toplak > > > Head of Mobile Development > > > > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > > > Von: Shazron > > > > Gesendet: Friday, December 7, 2018 03:30 > > > > An: dev@cordova.apache.org > > > > Betreff: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova > > > > > > > > Hello beloved Community! > > > > I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around April 2014 (~4.5 > > > years). > > > > > > > > The duties are mostly administrative: board reports, PMC management > etc. > > > Some > > > > of it is listed here in the README: > > > > https://github.com/apache/cordova-apache-board-reports > > > > > > > > I think it is time for new leadership. I have decided to resign my > > > duties as the > > > > Apache Cordova chair, hopefully for the upcoming new year of 2019. > > > > > > > > I nominate Jesse MacFadyen as the next chair. Jesse has been with me > at > > > the start > > > > when Cordova was PhoneGap. Although we didn't give birth to it, we > > > helped work > > > > on improving Cordova from being an infant to adulthood (together with > > > our great > > > > team), particularly on cordova-ios. > > > > 10 years is adulthood in software! > > > > > > > > He has also contributed greatly to the other platforms and tooling, > > > particularly > > > > cordova-windows. He has the most experience with helping run the > Cordova > > > > project out of the remaining active contributors. > > > > > > > > As an Apache Member (https://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html) > > > > he also understands and helps uphold 'The Apache Way' > > > > (https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html) and will be a > > > great liaison > > > > with the Board. > > > > > > > > I'm not going anywhere and I will still contribute to the project in > my > > > areas of > > > > expertise. > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > >
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
+1 Thanks to you both! Am Fr., 7. Dez. 2018 um 10:05 Uhr schrieb julio cesar sanchez : > > +1 > > And thanks to you for all this years and to him for taking over > > El El vie, 7 dic 2018 a las 8:02, Toplak Daniel > escribió: > > > Hello Shazron, > > > > thank you for your hard work the last few years and I will totally agree > > with the nomination of Jesse :-) > > +1 > > > > Grüße / Regards > > Daniel Toplak > > Head of Mobile Development > > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > > Von: Shazron > > > Gesendet: Friday, December 7, 2018 03:30 > > > An: dev@cordova.apache.org > > > Betreff: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova > > > > > > Hello beloved Community! > > > I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around April 2014 (~4.5 > > years). > > > > > > The duties are mostly administrative: board reports, PMC management etc. > > Some > > > of it is listed here in the README: > > > https://github.com/apache/cordova-apache-board-reports > > > > > > I think it is time for new leadership. I have decided to resign my > > duties as the > > > Apache Cordova chair, hopefully for the upcoming new year of 2019. > > > > > > I nominate Jesse MacFadyen as the next chair. Jesse has been with me at > > the start > > > when Cordova was PhoneGap. Although we didn't give birth to it, we > > helped work > > > on improving Cordova from being an infant to adulthood (together with > > our great > > > team), particularly on cordova-ios. > > > 10 years is adulthood in software! > > > > > > He has also contributed greatly to the other platforms and tooling, > > particularly > > > cordova-windows. He has the most experience with helping run the Cordova > > > project out of the remaining active contributors. > > > > > > As an Apache Member (https://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html) > > > he also understands and helps uphold 'The Apache Way' > > > (https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html) and will be a > > great liaison > > > with the Board. > > > > > > I'm not going anywhere and I will still contribute to the project in my > > areas of > > > expertise. > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
+1 And thanks to you for all this years and to him for taking over El El vie, 7 dic 2018 a las 8:02, Toplak Daniel escribió: > Hello Shazron, > > thank you for your hard work the last few years and I will totally agree > with the nomination of Jesse :-) > +1 > > Grüße / Regards > Daniel Toplak > Head of Mobile Development > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > Von: Shazron > > Gesendet: Friday, December 7, 2018 03:30 > > An: dev@cordova.apache.org > > Betreff: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova > > > > Hello beloved Community! > > I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around April 2014 (~4.5 > years). > > > > The duties are mostly administrative: board reports, PMC management etc. > Some > > of it is listed here in the README: > > https://github.com/apache/cordova-apache-board-reports > > > > I think it is time for new leadership. I have decided to resign my > duties as the > > Apache Cordova chair, hopefully for the upcoming new year of 2019. > > > > I nominate Jesse MacFadyen as the next chair. Jesse has been with me at > the start > > when Cordova was PhoneGap. Although we didn't give birth to it, we > helped work > > on improving Cordova from being an infant to adulthood (together with > our great > > team), particularly on cordova-ios. > > 10 years is adulthood in software! > > > > He has also contributed greatly to the other platforms and tooling, > particularly > > cordova-windows. He has the most experience with helping run the Cordova > > project out of the remaining active contributors. > > > > As an Apache Member (https://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html) > > he also understands and helps uphold 'The Apache Way' > > (https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html) and will be a > great liaison > > with the Board. > > > > I'm not going anywhere and I will still contribute to the project in my > areas of > > expertise. > > > > Thank you. > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > >
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
Hi Shazron, Thanks for all your hard work and we respect your decision. +1 to Jesse for his responsiveness and willingness to help others. On Friday, December 7, 2018, Shazron wrote: > Hello beloved Community! > I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around April 2014 (~4.5 > years). > > The duties are mostly administrative: board reports, PMC management > etc. Some of it is listed here in the README: > https://github.com/apache/cordova-apache-board-reports > > I think it is time for new leadership. I have decided to resign my > duties as the Apache Cordova chair, hopefully for the upcoming new > year of 2019. > > I nominate Jesse MacFadyen as the next chair. Jesse has been with me > at the start when Cordova was PhoneGap. Although we didn't give birth > to it, we helped work on improving Cordova from being an infant to > adulthood (together with our great team), particularly on cordova-ios. > 10 years is adulthood in software! > > He has also contributed greatly to the other platforms and tooling, > particularly cordova-windows. He has the most experience with helping > run the Cordova project out of the remaining active contributors. > > As an Apache Member (https://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html) > he also understands and helps uphold 'The Apache Way' > (https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html) and will be a > great liaison with the Board. > > I'm not going anywhere and I will still contribute to the project in > my areas of expertise. > > Thank you. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > -- Regards, Gandhi "The best way to find urself is to lose urself in the service of others !!!"
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
+1 Major positive points: * Technical knowledge * Process and teamwork * Fairness * Respect for all On Thu, Dec 6, 2018, 9:30 PM Shazron wrote: > Hello beloved Community! > I have been the chair of Apache Cordova since around April 2014 (~4.5 > years). > > The duties are mostly administrative: board reports, PMC management > etc. Some of it is listed here in the README: > https://github.com/apache/cordova-apache-board-reports > > I think it is time for new leadership. I have decided to resign my > duties as the Apache Cordova chair, hopefully for the upcoming new > year of 2019. > > I nominate Jesse MacFadyen as the next chair. Jesse has been with me > at the start when Cordova was PhoneGap. Although we didn't give birth > to it, we helped work on improving Cordova from being an infant to > adulthood (together with our great team), particularly on cordova-ios. > 10 years is adulthood in software! > > He has also contributed greatly to the other platforms and tooling, > particularly cordova-windows. He has the most experience with helping > run the Cordova project out of the remaining active contributors. > > As an Apache Member (https://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html) > he also understands and helps uphold 'The Apache Way' > (https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html) and will be a > great liaison with the Board. > > I'm not going anywhere and I will still contribute to the project in > my areas of expertise. > > Thank you. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > >
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
Thank you sebb for your guidance and help on this related items. On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:15 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, the Cordova PMC now includes all committers in the LDAP committee group and in committee-info.txt. The various items of ASF documentation now all agree with each other: https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/committee/cordova (requires ASF committer login credentials) Also, the modify_committee.pl and modify_unix_group.pl scripts have been updated to reject spurious parameters - rather than silently ignoring them (which I suspect has been the cause of problems for several PMC chairs in the past). On 20 May 2014 03:40, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote: Woot ! I think mystery was solved, I also show up in cordova-pmc On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Marcel Kinard cmarc...@gmail.com wrote: I am now able to commit to svn dist, and I now appear at http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#cordova-pmc Thanks! On May 16, 2014, at 7:02 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: marcelk should be in the pmc list now. I believe it didn't work before but it appears to work now (I saw how Brian ran the commands): modify_committee.pl cordova --add=marcelk -- Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com -- Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
I am now able to commit to svn dist, and I now appear at http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#cordova-pmc Thanks! On May 16, 2014, at 7:02 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: marcelk should be in the pmc list now. I believe it didn't work before but it appears to work now (I saw how Brian ran the commands): modify_committee.pl cordova --add=marcelk
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
Woot ! I think mystery was solved, I also show up in cordova-pmc On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Marcel Kinard cmarc...@gmail.com wrote: I am now able to commit to svn dist, and I now appear at http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#cordova-pmc Thanks! On May 16, 2014, at 7:02 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: marcelk should be in the pmc list now. I believe it didn't work before but it appears to work now (I saw how Brian ran the commands): modify_committee.pl cordova --add=marcelk -- Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
Thanks Sam, Over the past week everything that can be done by a non-chair PMC member has been done - including sending the resolution, adding users to the committee-info.txt (I've sent details to private@). The LDAP tasks have been noted as a todo that needs to be done once/if I get the blessing and karma from the Board for the changeover. On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2014 10:18:43 -0700, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all you've done Brian! Also thank you for all the confidence and acclaim everyone that has chimed in. I'll try to do my best for the project and for Apache -- to dot the i's and cross all the t's (assuming the Apache Board approves of course). The first i to dot or t to cross would be to send a resolution for the board to consider, per: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newchair To help keep things moving, I've taken the liberty of creating one for you: A. Change the Apache Cordova Project Chair WHEREAS, the Board of Directors heretofore appointed Brian LeRoux to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and WHEREAS, the Board of Directors is in receipt of the resignation of Brian LeRoux from the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and WHEREAS, the Project Management Committee of the Apache Cordova project has chosen by vote to recommend Shazron Abdullah as the successor to the post; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that Brian LeRoux is relieved and discharged from the duties and responsibilities of the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Shazron Abdullah be and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed. Let me know if this is not what the PMC wishes. - Sam Ruby P.S. I encourage you to familiarize yourself with the process of adding members to the PMC, as there is a considerable backlog of additions that have not yet been processed: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newpmc
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
On 05/16/2014 01:07 PM, Shazron wrote: Thanks Sam, Over the past week everything that can be done by a non-chair PMC member has been done - including sending the resolution, adding users to the committee-info.txt (I've sent details to private@). The LDAP tasks have been noted as a todo that needs to be done once/if I get the blessing and karma from the Board for the changeover. Thanks! You'll find[1] that the LDAP tasks are a single command (literally!). If/when you get to that point and you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. - Sam Ruby [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newpmc On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net mailto:ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2014 10:18:43 -0700, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com mailto:shaz...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all you've done Brian! Also thank you for all the confidence and acclaim everyone that has chimed in. I'll try to do my best for the project and for Apache -- to dot the i's and cross all the t's (assuming the Apache Board approves of course). The first i to dot or t to cross would be to send a resolution for the board to consider, per: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.__html#newchair http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newchair To help keep things moving, I've taken the liberty of creating one for you: A. Change the Apache Cordova Project Chair WHEREAS, the Board of Directors heretofore appointed Brian LeRoux to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and WHEREAS, the Board of Directors is in receipt of the resignation of Brian LeRoux from the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and WHEREAS, the Project Management Committee of the Apache Cordova project has chosen by vote to recommend Shazron Abdullah as the successor to the post; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that Brian LeRoux is relieved and discharged from the duties and responsibilities of the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Shazron Abdullah be and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed. Let me know if this is not what the PMC wishes. - Sam Ruby P.S. I encourage you to familiarize yourself with the process of adding members to the PMC, as there is a considerable backlog of additions that have not yet been processed: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.__html#newpmc http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newpmc
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
The LDAP tasks have been run and I was getting a weird cron email…for a while but no longer. I suspect there may have been an issue around heartbleed and/or mail woe. Anyhow, maybe running the scripts again will work. On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Sam, Over the past week everything that can be done by a non-chair PMC member has been done - including sending the resolution, adding users to the committee-info.txt (I've sent details to private@). The LDAP tasks have been noted as a todo that needs to be done once/if I get the blessing and karma from the Board for the changeover. On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2014 10:18:43 -0700, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all you've done Brian! Also thank you for all the confidence and acclaim everyone that has chimed in. I'll try to do my best for the project and for Apache -- to dot the i's and cross all the t's (assuming the Apache Board approves of course). The first i to dot or t to cross would be to send a resolution for the board to consider, per: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newchair To help keep things moving, I've taken the liberty of creating one for you: A. Change the Apache Cordova Project Chair WHEREAS, the Board of Directors heretofore appointed Brian LeRoux to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and WHEREAS, the Board of Directors is in receipt of the resignation of Brian LeRoux from the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and WHEREAS, the Project Management Committee of the Apache Cordova project has chosen by vote to recommend Shazron Abdullah as the successor to the post; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that Brian LeRoux is relieved and discharged from the duties and responsibilities of the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Shazron Abdullah be and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed. Let me know if this is not what the PMC wishes. - Sam Ruby P.S. I encourage you to familiarize yourself with the process of adding members to the PMC, as there is a considerable backlog of additions that have not yet been processed: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newpmc
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
On 16 May 2014 21:36, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: The LDAP tasks have been run and I was getting a weird cron email…for a while but no longer. I suspect there may have been an issue around heartbleed and/or mail woe. Anyhow, maybe running the scripts again will work. What command did you use exactly? I have just checked the LDAP committee list for Cordova (see below) and it does not contain the following: bennmapes cguiraud csantanapr drkemp jeffheifetz jsoref kamrik ldeluca marcelk mrbillau naika pplaquette rmerlino sierra pwd ~ : list_committee.pl cordova abub agrieve anis bcurtis becka11y bhiggins bowserj braden brianleroux deedubbu devgeeks dkormalev doc don filmaj goya gtanner hermwong ian jamesjong jtyberg jukka longwei lorinbeer macdonst maxw mmocny mwbrooks pmuellr purplecabbage sgrebnov shazron steven timkim tranter viras wildabeast yohei On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Sam, Over the past week everything that can be done by a non-chair PMC member has been done - including sending the resolution, adding users to the committee-info.txt (I've sent details to private@). The LDAP tasks have been noted as a todo that needs to be done once/if I get the blessing and karma from the Board for the changeover. On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2014 10:18:43 -0700, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all you've done Brian! Also thank you for all the confidence and acclaim everyone that has chimed in. I'll try to do my best for the project and for Apache -- to dot the i's and cross all the t's (assuming the Apache Board approves of course). The first i to dot or t to cross would be to send a resolution for the board to consider, per: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newchair To help keep things moving, I've taken the liberty of creating one for you: A. Change the Apache Cordova Project Chair WHEREAS, the Board of Directors heretofore appointed Brian LeRoux to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and WHEREAS, the Board of Directors is in receipt of the resignation of Brian LeRoux from the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and WHEREAS, the Project Management Committee of the Apache Cordova project has chosen by vote to recommend Shazron Abdullah as the successor to the post; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that Brian LeRoux is relieved and discharged from the duties and responsibilities of the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Shazron Abdullah be and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed. Let me know if this is not what the PMC wishes. - Sam Ruby P.S. I encourage you to familiarize yourself with the process of adding members to the PMC, as there is a considerable backlog of additions that have not yet been processed: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newpmc
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
On 16 May 2014 22:49, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 May 2014 21:36, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: The LDAP tasks have been run and I was getting a weird cron email…for a while but no longer. I suspect there may have been an issue around heartbleed and/or mail woe. Anyhow, maybe running the scripts again will work. What command did you use exactly? I have just checked the LDAP committee list for Cordova (see below) and it does not contain the following: bennmapes cguiraud csantanapr drkemp jeffheifetz jsoref kamrik ldeluca marcelk mrbillau naika pplaquette rmerlino sierra I think I know what might have happened. The command needs a comma-separated list of ASF ids. If the ids are space-separated, it seems they get ignored. So the command modify_committee.pl cordova --add=a b c d would only add the id a It looks like bhiggins was added recently but no others so perhaps he was the first in a space-separated list? pwd ~ : list_committee.pl cordova abub agrieve anis bcurtis becka11y bhiggins bowserj braden brianleroux deedubbu devgeeks dkormalev doc don filmaj goya gtanner hermwong ian jamesjong jtyberg jukka longwei lorinbeer macdonst maxw mmocny mwbrooks pmuellr purplecabbage sgrebnov shazron steven timkim tranter viras wildabeast yohei On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Sam, Over the past week everything that can be done by a non-chair PMC member has been done - including sending the resolution, adding users to the committee-info.txt (I've sent details to private@). The LDAP tasks have been noted as a todo that needs to be done once/if I get the blessing and karma from the Board for the changeover. On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2014 10:18:43 -0700, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all you've done Brian! Also thank you for all the confidence and acclaim everyone that has chimed in. I'll try to do my best for the project and for Apache -- to dot the i's and cross all the t's (assuming the Apache Board approves of course). The first i to dot or t to cross would be to send a resolution for the board to consider, per: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newchair To help keep things moving, I've taken the liberty of creating one for you: A. Change the Apache Cordova Project Chair WHEREAS, the Board of Directors heretofore appointed Brian LeRoux to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and WHEREAS, the Board of Directors is in receipt of the resignation of Brian LeRoux from the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and WHEREAS, the Project Management Committee of the Apache Cordova project has chosen by vote to recommend Shazron Abdullah as the successor to the post; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that Brian LeRoux is relieved and discharged from the duties and responsibilities of the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Shazron Abdullah be and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed. Let me know if this is not what the PMC wishes. - Sam Ruby P.S. I encourage you to familiarize yourself with the process of adding members to the PMC, as there is a considerable backlog of additions that have not yet been processed: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newpmc
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
marcelk should be in the pmc list now. I believe it didn't work before but it appears to work now (I saw how Brian ran the commands): modify_committee.pl cordova --add=marcelk Do the names have to be in the board/committee_info.txt before running the ldap perl scripts? (is there a dependency somehow) On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 2:49 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 May 2014 21:36, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: The LDAP tasks have been run and I was getting a weird cron email…for a while but no longer. I suspect there may have been an issue around heartbleed and/or mail woe. Anyhow, maybe running the scripts again will work. What command did you use exactly? I have just checked the LDAP committee list for Cordova (see below) and it does not contain the following: bennmapes cguiraud csantanapr drkemp jeffheifetz jsoref kamrik ldeluca marcelk mrbillau naika pplaquette rmerlino sierra pwd ~ : list_committee.pl cordova abub agrieve anis bcurtis becka11y bhiggins bowserj braden brianleroux deedubbu devgeeks dkormalev doc don filmaj goya gtanner hermwong ian jamesjong jtyberg jukka longwei lorinbeer macdonst maxw mmocny mwbrooks pmuellr purplecabbage sgrebnov shazron steven timkim tranter viras wildabeast yohei On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Sam, Over the past week everything that can be done by a non-chair PMC member has been done - including sending the resolution, adding users to the committee-info.txt (I've sent details to private@). The LDAP tasks have been noted as a todo that needs to be done once/if I get the blessing and karma from the Board for the changeover. On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2014 10:18:43 -0700, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all you've done Brian! Also thank you for all the confidence and acclaim everyone that has chimed in. I'll try to do my best for the project and for Apache -- to dot the i's and cross all the t's (assuming the Apache Board approves of course). The first i to dot or t to cross would be to send a resolution for the board to consider, per: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newchair To help keep things moving, I've taken the liberty of creating one for you: A. Change the Apache Cordova Project Chair WHEREAS, the Board of Directors heretofore appointed Brian LeRoux to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and WHEREAS, the Board of Directors is in receipt of the resignation of Brian LeRoux from the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and WHEREAS, the Project Management Committee of the Apache Cordova project has chosen by vote to recommend Shazron Abdullah as the successor to the post; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that Brian LeRoux is relieved and discharged from the duties and responsibilities of the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Shazron Abdullah be and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed. Let me know if this is not what the PMC wishes. - Sam Ruby P.S. I encourage you to familiarize yourself with the process of adding members to the PMC, as there is a considerable backlog of additions that have not yet been processed: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newpmc
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
On 17 May 2014 00:02, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: marcelk should be in the pmc list now. I believe it didn't work before but it appears to work now (I saw how Brian ran the commands): modify_committee.pl cordova --add=marcelk Yes, marcelk is in the cordova committee in LDAP. Do the names have to be in the board/committee_info.txt before running the ldap perl scripts? (is there a dependency somehow) No, they are independent. On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 2:49 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 May 2014 21:36, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: The LDAP tasks have been run and I was getting a weird cron email…for a while but no longer. I suspect there may have been an issue around heartbleed and/or mail woe. Anyhow, maybe running the scripts again will work. What command did you use exactly? I have just checked the LDAP committee list for Cordova (see below) and it does not contain the following: bennmapes cguiraud csantanapr drkemp jeffheifetz jsoref kamrik ldeluca marcelk mrbillau naika pplaquette rmerlino sierra pwd ~ : list_committee.pl cordova abub agrieve anis bcurtis becka11y bhiggins bowserj braden brianleroux deedubbu devgeeks dkormalev doc don filmaj goya gtanner hermwong ian jamesjong jtyberg jukka longwei lorinbeer macdonst maxw mmocny mwbrooks pmuellr purplecabbage sgrebnov shazron steven timkim tranter viras wildabeast yohei On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Sam, Over the past week everything that can be done by a non-chair PMC member has been done - including sending the resolution, adding users to the committee-info.txt (I've sent details to private@). The LDAP tasks have been noted as a todo that needs to be done once/if I get the blessing and karma from the Board for the changeover. On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2014 10:18:43 -0700, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all you've done Brian! Also thank you for all the confidence and acclaim everyone that has chimed in. I'll try to do my best for the project and for Apache -- to dot the i's and cross all the t's (assuming the Apache Board approves of course). The first i to dot or t to cross would be to send a resolution for the board to consider, per: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newchair To help keep things moving, I've taken the liberty of creating one for you: A. Change the Apache Cordova Project Chair WHEREAS, the Board of Directors heretofore appointed Brian LeRoux to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and WHEREAS, the Board of Directors is in receipt of the resignation of Brian LeRoux from the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and WHEREAS, the Project Management Committee of the Apache Cordova project has chosen by vote to recommend Shazron Abdullah as the successor to the post; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that Brian LeRoux is relieved and discharged from the duties and responsibilities of the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Shazron Abdullah be and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed. Let me know if this is not what the PMC wishes. - Sam Ruby P.S. I encourage you to familiarize yourself with the process of adding members to the PMC, as there is a considerable backlog of additions that have not yet been processed: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newpmc
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
On 05/16/2014 05:49 PM, sebb wrote: On 16 May 2014 21:36, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: The LDAP tasks have been run and I was getting a weird cron email…for a while but no longer. I suspect there may have been an issue around heartbleed and/or mail woe. Anyhow, maybe running the scripts again will work. What command did you use exactly? I have just checked the LDAP committee list for Cordova (see below) and it does not contain the following: bennmapes cguiraud csantanapr drkemp jeffheifetz jsoref kamrik ldeluca marcelk mrbillau naika pplaquette rmerlino sierra A (currently read only) web interface to this data (available to all ASF committers): https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/committee/cordova - Sam Ruby
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
On Thu, 1 May 2014 10:18:43 -0700, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all you've done Brian! Also thank you for all the confidence and acclaim everyone that has chimed in. I'll try to do my best for the project and for Apache -- to dot the i's and cross all the t's (assuming the Apache Board approves of course). The first i to dot or t to cross would be to send a resolution for the board to consider, per: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newchair To help keep things moving, I've taken the liberty of creating one for you: A. Change the Apache Cordova Project Chair WHEREAS, the Board of Directors heretofore appointed Brian LeRoux to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and WHEREAS, the Board of Directors is in receipt of the resignation of Brian LeRoux from the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and WHEREAS, the Project Management Committee of the Apache Cordova project has chosen by vote to recommend Shazron Abdullah as the successor to the post; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that Brian LeRoux is relieved and discharged from the duties and responsibilities of the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Shazron Abdullah be and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Cordova, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed. Let me know if this is not what the PMC wishes. - Sam Ruby P.S. I encourage you to familiarize yourself with the process of adding members to the PMC, as there is a considerable backlog of additions that have not yet been processed: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newpmc
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
Thanks for all you've done Brian! Also thank you for all the confidence and acclaim everyone that has chimed in. I'll try to do my best for the project and for Apache -- to dot the i's and cross all the t's (assuming the Apache Board approves of course). 'Nuff said, I'll just express my gratitude in an 80's song - a classic by the Pet Shop Boys and Dusty Springfield: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn9E5i7l-Eg On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Anis KADRI anis.ka...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for Shaz! Thanks for everything Brian! On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Michael Brooks mich...@michaelbrooks.ca wrote: Brian, thank you for all of the hard work that you've done over the past few years. Drinks will have to be on the Cordova team. +1 Shaz for all the reasons listed above. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 1:36 PM, RUDD, Brett brettr...@gmail.com wrote: yep +1 to shaz, known (and worked on and off with) him for ten years and once you get used to his jokes (~ year 6) he's fine. Off topic: Joe and Jim, please may you each put up email filters for the others' comments? Its almost entirely you two trolls yelling at each other, throwing salt in wounds, in every thread about cordova vs apache (actually they should be called Joe vs Jim threads). The problems with our PMC and the Board are being blown way, way out of proportion I think. i think jim and sebb's input is productive on any, and seemingly every, email thread we have ever had, and their contribution to cordova has been invaluable and i look forward to working with them more closely in the future. -brett
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
I think I need to go into why I don't like The Apache Way from the view of the people that I actually care about, our users. The people who talk to me at conventions, and wonder why things are so slow, broken and stupid. 1. All communication on the e-mail list We've been breaking this one with Google Hangouts. From my understanding we can't make any decision on the Google Hangout because that is against the Apache Way and some committer can't make the hangout in theory. The reality is that we have zero European contributors and we manage to accomodate Tommy though magic of him either being able to not sleep, or us picking a weird ass time that screws over the East Coast. Before we did hangouts, connect and conference calls on a more regular basis and it was easier for us to actually work on shit together instead of being in weird silos. 2. Bureaucracy Community Code We've had numerous users complain about how we had to leave GitHub, how hard it is to submit an issue, about API changes because of Trademark Issues, and other issues pertaining to Apache Cordova updates. We've had people criticize our fix for the non-voting and people criticize the voting. We've basically had people criticize everything that we've done to abide by the Apache Way because it makes no sense. If Community Code actually meant something, we'd listen to all the users we had before we donated PhoneGap to Apache and created Cordova. Just beacuse we're not httpd or OpenOffice doesn't mean we don't have an active and passionate userbase that frankly loves us and is passionate about this project far more than we ever deserve. We should do better to listen to them and push back against bureaucracy that doesn't make sense. It's not us being special snowflakes, it's us fighting for the user! 3. Being bad at working with people and projects isn't funny I really didn't find the SVN abandoning SVN and adopting Git funny (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7524) because I was privy to all the communications sent during the whole not-voting-for-releases battle. Everything is a big fight with Apache, especially with people such as Jim. The first e-mail I remember receiving from Jim was the cced one basically telling us to go pound sand, which is my first impression of how the Apache board works. Being assholes in private or public isn't funny, it's sad and pathetic. However, it appears to be the Apache Way, which is why I do it on this list, albeit not nearly as hard as people do it on most of the lists that I've seen. I know that people don't care what anyone thinks of them, but that's a bad attitude when you're trying to attract contributors, and when you're trying to attract projects to the foundation. Whether it's hangover posts from the Git war, or other posts bemoaning the Apache culture of RTFM when it comes to its arcane policies, this is actively discouraging people from being involved with Apache at all, including Apache Cordova. I have some friends who were formerly with Apache, or associated with the ASF that aren't because of it's toxic culture, and it pisses me off that aspects of it continue, so yeah, I'm pretty toxic to things that I see as toxic. I'm not going to air all the dirty laundry here. Now, those are probably my main three complaints. I already know that there's going to be some defence about not caring what other people think and popularity contests, and I don't view that as productive. I'm not asking everyone to sing kumbaya, but it would be nice if the ASF, and those trying to curry favour with the ASF, would stop purposely trying to alienate the people who helped create this project in the first place. If you forwarded me an e-mail, even unintentionally where you were abusive to myself or other people who created this thing, I'll definitely remember that. Now, I think I derailed this thread enough with my personal opinion. I think Shaz should be our chair because I think he'll do a good job at it. Joe On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Coming from Joe's perspective this is year 6 of the source code now known as Cordova. Jim and others have as much merit in our world as we clearly do in theirs. It is not uncalled for and very obvious where the sentiment comes from. Members of the board care deeply about Apache and we care deeply about Cordova. Finding a respectful and productive balance would be nice though clearly this is not mandatory. Anyhow, the very concept of PMC was always intended to be no different than committer in Cordova. This was understood and acknowledged during incubation. Despite the language of meritocracy there's a hierarchical pyramid at Apache (Contributor-Committer-PMC-Member) and we very deliberately chose to incorporate Committer and PMC Member at the same time. If you are good enough to land a patch you are good enough to be involved in the releasing of it. We have always intended to continue with a flat
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
+1 to chair nomination for Shaz. He will do a great job. Let’s try and keep this on topic and move the Apache Way discussion to a separate thread. -James Jong On Apr 23, 2014, at 3:09 AM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: I think I need to go into why I don't like The Apache Way from the view of the people that I actually care about, our users. The people who talk to me at conventions, and wonder why things are so slow, broken and stupid. 1. All communication on the e-mail list We've been breaking this one with Google Hangouts. From my understanding we can't make any decision on the Google Hangout because that is against the Apache Way and some committer can't make the hangout in theory. The reality is that we have zero European contributors and we manage to accomodate Tommy though magic of him either being able to not sleep, or us picking a weird ass time that screws over the East Coast. Before we did hangouts, connect and conference calls on a more regular basis and it was easier for us to actually work on shit together instead of being in weird silos. 2. Bureaucracy Community Code We've had numerous users complain about how we had to leave GitHub, how hard it is to submit an issue, about API changes because of Trademark Issues, and other issues pertaining to Apache Cordova updates. We've had people criticize our fix for the non-voting and people criticize the voting. We've basically had people criticize everything that we've done to abide by the Apache Way because it makes no sense. If Community Code actually meant something, we'd listen to all the users we had before we donated PhoneGap to Apache and created Cordova. Just beacuse we're not httpd or OpenOffice doesn't mean we don't have an active and passionate userbase that frankly loves us and is passionate about this project far more than we ever deserve. We should do better to listen to them and push back against bureaucracy that doesn't make sense. It's not us being special snowflakes, it's us fighting for the user! 3. Being bad at working with people and projects isn't funny I really didn't find the SVN abandoning SVN and adopting Git funny (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7524) because I was privy to all the communications sent during the whole not-voting-for-releases battle. Everything is a big fight with Apache, especially with people such as Jim. The first e-mail I remember receiving from Jim was the cced one basically telling us to go pound sand, which is my first impression of how the Apache board works. Being assholes in private or public isn't funny, it's sad and pathetic. However, it appears to be the Apache Way, which is why I do it on this list, albeit not nearly as hard as people do it on most of the lists that I've seen. I know that people don't care what anyone thinks of them, but that's a bad attitude when you're trying to attract contributors, and when you're trying to attract projects to the foundation. Whether it's hangover posts from the Git war, or other posts bemoaning the Apache culture of RTFM when it comes to its arcane policies, this is actively discouraging people from being involved with Apache at all, including Apache Cordova. I have some friends who were formerly with Apache, or associated with the ASF that aren't because of it's toxic culture, and it pisses me off that aspects of it continue, so yeah, I'm pretty toxic to things that I see as toxic. I'm not going to air all the dirty laundry here. Now, those are probably my main three complaints. I already know that there's going to be some defence about not caring what other people think and popularity contests, and I don't view that as productive. I'm not asking everyone to sing kumbaya, but it would be nice if the ASF, and those trying to curry favour with the ASF, would stop purposely trying to alienate the people who helped create this project in the first place. If you forwarded me an e-mail, even unintentionally where you were abusive to myself or other people who created this thing, I'll definitely remember that. Now, I think I derailed this thread enough with my personal opinion. I think Shaz should be our chair because I think he'll do a good job at it. Joe On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Coming from Joe's perspective this is year 6 of the source code now known as Cordova. Jim and others have as much merit in our world as we clearly do in theirs. It is not uncalled for and very obvious where the sentiment comes from. Members of the board care deeply about Apache and we care deeply about Cordova. Finding a respectful and productive balance would be nice though clearly this is not mandatory. Anyhow, the very concept of PMC was always intended to be no different than committer in Cordova. This was understood and acknowledged during incubation. Despite the language of meritocracy there's
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
On Apr 23, 2014, at 3:09 AM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: I think I need to go into why I don't like The Apache Way from the view of the people that I actually care about, our users. The people who talk to me at conventions, and wonder why things are so slow, broken and stupid. 1. All communication on the e-mail list We've been breaking this one with Google Hangouts. From my understanding we can't make any decision on the Google Hangout because that is against the Apache Way and some committer can't make the hangout in theory. The reality is that we have zero European contributors and we manage to accomodate Tommy though magic of him either being able to not sleep, or us picking a weird ass time that screws over the East Coast. Before we did hangouts, connect and conference calls on a more regular basis and it was easier for us to actually work on shit together instead of being in weird silos. The very fact that the PMC is OK with it *now* is immaterial. Do you know how many people you are disenfranchising from being potential committers/members/users because you are holding such meetings using hangouts? The PMC should be worried not only about the community as it exists today, but to also ensure that the community continues to exist long after the *current* group of people leave for other things. It's called planning for the future, and sometimes that takes time and effort. 2. Bureaucracy Community Code We've had numerous users complain about how we had to leave GitHub, how hard it is to submit an issue, about API changes because of Trademark Issues, and other issues pertaining to Apache Cordova updates. We've had people criticize our fix for the non-voting and people criticize the voting. We've basically had people criticize everything that we've done to abide by the Apache Way because it makes no sense. If Community Code actually meant something, we'd listen to all the users we had before we donated PhoneGap to Apache and created Cordova. Just beacuse we're not httpd or OpenOffice doesn't mean we don't have an active and passionate userbase that frankly loves us and is passionate about this project far more than we ever deserve. We should do better to listen to them and push back against bureaucracy that doesn't make sense. It's not us being special snowflakes, it's us fighting for the user! I will forego the obvious attempt at trolling by lumping Bureaucracy in there, but needed to say, it is kinda clear that you don't understand much more than the words community over code and lack a clear understanding of the rationale behind that. Partly it is explained in my answer to #1, but I could go into much more detail if desired. If you and others are *really* interested in knowing more, and not just venting or trolling, let me know. 3. Being bad at working with people and projects isn't funny I really didn't find the SVN abandoning SVN and adopting Git funny (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7524) because I was privy to all the communications sent during the whole not-voting-for-releases battle. Everything is a big fight with Apache, especially with people such as Jim. The first e-mail I remember receiving from Jim was the cced one basically telling us to go pound sand, which is my first impression of how the Apache board works. Being assholes in private or public isn't funny, it's sad and pathetic. However, it appears to be the Apache Way, which is why I do it on this list, albeit not nearly as hard as people do it on most of the lists that I've seen. The board is not a fine surgical scalpel. It is a blunt hammer. When things arise to the level of the board, it is because there is a problem. A serious problem. Maybe an analogy would help. Say you have decided to become orthodox Jewish. You then complain that you can't eat pork, and that not eating pork is stupid and that you can't see any reason for it, despite it being a condition of being a Jew. You talk to a rabbi. Do you expect him to say Of course, I understand. Please do what you want. or do you expect that he will say, basically, pound sand? I know that people don't care what anyone thinks of them, but that's a bad attitude when you're trying to attract contributors, and when you're trying to attract projects to the foundation. Whether it's hangover posts from the Git war, or other posts bemoaning the Apache culture of RTFM when it comes to its arcane policies, this is actively discouraging people from being involved with Apache at all, including Apache Cordova. I have some friends who were formerly with Apache, or associated with the ASF that aren't because of it's toxic culture, and it pisses me off that aspects of it continue, so yeah, I'm pretty toxic to things that I see as toxic. I'm not going to air all the dirty laundry here. We have never said that the ASF nor the Apache Way is for everyone. So the fact that you know
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
On Apr 22, 2014, at 9:21 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Joe - totally uncalled for. Not sure where it even came from. If you hate Apache so much, then why are you a *volunteer* on an Apache project? Because I like the Cordova project, despite what Apache has done to it. I'm fairly confident that there is not a good understanding of what it means to be a PMC, or PMC chair, and Jim is spending his time to help us out. Nobody asked Jim to help, in fact quite the opposite. I know that we have to do what Apache tells us because they own the code now, but I don't have to pretend to like it. Actually, the board did. Jim - thank you. On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: There is one other aspect of the chair which, for a somewhat newish PMC is important: The entire PMC is responsible for ensuring that the project is run in a way which abides by, and embraces, the Apache Way... when it doesn't, the Chair needs to (1) know that the PMC is going awry and (2) encourage the PMC to fix those problems and (3) interact w/ the board if the PMC needs help in doing so. So, who is to protect the PMC from yourself and rest of the board trying to destroy the project with insults and vitriol? While I believe that Shazron is up to the task, I'm convinced that The Apache Way is the worst way to run a software project, and that the Apache Board spends all their time trying to find ways to debate itself into irrelevancy. I wish that we never joined the ASF, and honestly when you told us that we should leave months ago, I welcomed it. That being said, we're still here, despite your best efforts. We've seen what happens when the board tries to help, and it generally pisses a bunch of committers off, and ends up with people insulting each other personally. This response to your first e-mail on this list should not come as any surprise. The fact is that Shaz fits well, because unlike me, he is diplomatic and won't tell you to jump off a cliff every time you or any other Apache person comes in and tries to interfere with our project. Not knowing Shaz personally, how does that all fit in with the nomination? On Apr 22, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Hello Cordova community. To this point I've served as the chair for the Cordova PMC. The duties of chair are solely administrative: board reports, and book keeping of committer nominations. Some projects at Apache have more formal incantations. We have, so far, preferred to maintain our lightweight approach meaning a committer is a PMC member too. This involves sending an email, updating a text file in SVN, and running a few perl scripts on http://people.apache.org. Keeping those books is important if some day there is a dispute to the veracity of our source. In evaluation of my current workload these additional book keeping responsibilities are not appropriate for me to prioritize and that is not fair to Cordova. I'm going to step down as chair for Cordova and I would like to nominate Shazron Abdullha to take on the role. Shaz has been with the project since before it was called Cordova. He lands more code than most, interacts directly with the community more than anyone, and is committed to work on Cordova solely full time. He'll be a better chair than I ever was. I won't be going anywhere and (I hope!) this means I can contribute more code than emails in the future. We can be formal and go to a vote if there is objection or interest in seeing someone else take the admin duties on. Otherwise, I'll aim to shoot the board official notice early next week.
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
No worries :) On Apr 22, 2014, at 9:17 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Joe - totally uncalled for. Not sure where it even came from. If you hate Apache so much, then why are you a *volunteer* on an Apache project? I'm fairly confident that there is not a good understanding of what it means to be a PMC, or PMC chair, and Jim is spending his time to help us out. Jim - thank you. On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: There is one other aspect of the chair which, for a somewhat newish PMC is important: The entire PMC is responsible for ensuring that the project is run in a way which abides by, and embraces, the Apache Way... when it doesn't, the Chair needs to (1) know that the PMC is going awry and (2) encourage the PMC to fix those problems and (3) interact w/ the board if the PMC needs help in doing so. So, who is to protect the PMC from yourself and rest of the board trying to destroy the project with insults and vitriol? While I believe that Shazron is up to the task, I'm convinced that The Apache Way is the worst way to run a software project, and that the Apache Board spends all their time trying to find ways to debate itself into irrelevancy. I wish that we never joined the ASF, and honestly when you told us that we should leave months ago, I welcomed it. That being said, we're still here, despite your best efforts. We've seen what happens when the board tries to help, and it generally pisses a bunch of committers off, and ends up with people insulting each other personally. This response to your first e-mail on this list should not come as any surprise. The fact is that Shaz fits well, because unlike me, he is diplomatic and won't tell you to jump off a cliff every time you or any other Apache person comes in and tries to interfere with our project. Not knowing Shaz personally, how does that all fit in with the nomination? On Apr 22, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Hello Cordova community. To this point I've served as the chair for the Cordova PMC. The duties of chair are solely administrative: board reports, and book keeping of committer nominations. Some projects at Apache have more formal incantations. We have, so far, preferred to maintain our lightweight approach meaning a committer is a PMC member too. This involves sending an email, updating a text file in SVN, and running a few perl scripts on http://people.apache.org. Keeping those books is important if some day there is a dispute to the veracity of our source. In evaluation of my current workload these additional book keeping responsibilities are not appropriate for me to prioritize and that is not fair to Cordova. I'm going to step down as chair for Cordova and I would like to nominate Shazron Abdullha to take on the role. Shaz has been with the project since before it was called Cordova. He lands more code than most, interacts directly with the community more than anyone, and is committed to work on Cordova solely full time. He'll be a better chair than I ever was. I won't be going anywhere and (I hope!) this means I can contribute more code than emails in the future. We can be formal and go to a vote if there is objection or interest in seeing someone else take the admin duties on. Otherwise, I'll aim to shoot the board official notice early next week.
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
On Apr 22, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Some of the Apache rules are build up of old policy that has become meaningless ceremony. This is not true. If you can provide examples of such meaningless ceremony that still exists, please mention them. They will either get removed, fixed or explained. FWIW, ALL policy has a basis in actual, tangible benefits to the community. Believe it or not, we are as anti- meaningless ceremony as you are. Why would we not be?? We are all people who develop and hack. We are not bureaucrats by choice or desire; we were *asked* to take on bureaucratic roles so that other developers didn't have to. And we care enough about the ASF to do so, and add those duties onto our numerous other duties as developers, committers, developers, PMC members, etc...
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
On topic: Big +1 to Shaz, a perfect fit. Also, thank you Brian for your efforts over the years and your work bringing the project through incubation. Thank you also for taking the decision to pass the torch. Off topic: Joe and Jim, please may you each put up email filters for the others' comments? Its almost entirely you two trolls yelling at each other, throwing salt in wounds, in every thread about cordova vs apache (actually they should be called Joe vs Jim threads). The problems with our PMC and the Board are being blown way, way out of proportion I think. -Michal On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Apr 22, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Some of the Apache rules are build up of old policy that has become meaningless ceremony. This is not true. If you can provide examples of such meaningless ceremony that still exists, please mention them. They will either get removed, fixed or explained. FWIW, ALL policy has a basis in actual, tangible benefits to the community. Believe it or not, we are as anti- meaningless ceremony as you are. Why would we not be?? We are all people who develop and hack. We are not bureaucrats by choice or desire; we were *asked* to take on bureaucratic roles so that other developers didn't have to. And we care enough about the ASF to do so, and add those duties onto our numerous other duties as developers, committers, developers, PMC members, etc...
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
Thanks a lot Brian for driving the project and always trying to do what's best for the community and the developers! Where's the beer fund I can donate to? ;D +1 Shaz if he is willing! On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: On topic: Big +1 to Shaz, a perfect fit. Also, thank you Brian for your efforts over the years and your work bringing the project through incubation. Thank you also for taking the decision to pass the torch. Off topic: Joe and Jim, please may you each put up email filters for the others' comments? Its almost entirely you two trolls yelling at each other, throwing salt in wounds, in every thread about cordova vs apache (actually they should be called Joe vs Jim threads). The problems with our PMC and the Board are being blown way, way out of proportion I think. -Michal On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Apr 22, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Some of the Apache rules are build up of old policy that has become meaningless ceremony. This is not true. If you can provide examples of such meaningless ceremony that still exists, please mention them. They will either get removed, fixed or explained. FWIW, ALL policy has a basis in actual, tangible benefits to the community. Believe it or not, we are as anti- meaningless ceremony as you are. Why would we not be?? We are all people who develop and hack. We are not bureaucrats by choice or desire; we were *asked* to take on bureaucratic roles so that other developers didn't have to. And we care enough about the ASF to do so, and add those duties onto our numerous other duties as developers, committers, developers, PMC members, etc...
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
+1 on Shaz if he wants to do it. I hope he has the bandwidth to continue his awesome technical contributions also. I tip my hat to Brian for tremendous leadership in this community that is not just an open source project is a philosophy on what we believe as a community and and willing to dedicate time and effort to help others with contributions. --Carlos On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Mike Billau mike.bil...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot Brian for driving the project and always trying to do what's best for the community and the developers! Where's the beer fund I can donate to? ;D +1 Shaz if he is willing! On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: On topic: Big +1 to Shaz, a perfect fit. Also, thank you Brian for your efforts over the years and your work bringing the project through incubation. Thank you also for taking the decision to pass the torch. Off topic: Joe and Jim, please may you each put up email filters for the others' comments? Its almost entirely you two trolls yelling at each other, throwing salt in wounds, in every thread about cordova vs apache (actually they should be called Joe vs Jim threads). The problems with our PMC and the Board are being blown way, way out of proportion I think. -Michal On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Apr 22, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Some of the Apache rules are build up of old policy that has become meaningless ceremony. This is not true. If you can provide examples of such meaningless ceremony that still exists, please mention them. They will either get removed, fixed or explained. FWIW, ALL policy has a basis in actual, tangible benefits to the community. Believe it or not, we are as anti- meaningless ceremony as you are. Why would we not be?? We are all people who develop and hack. We are not bureaucrats by choice or desire; we were *asked* to take on bureaucratic roles so that other developers didn't have to. And we care enough about the ASF to do so, and add those duties onto our numerous other duties as developers, committers, developers, PMC members, etc... -- Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
On 22 April 2014 22:34, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Hello Cordova community. To this point I've served as the chair for the Cordova PMC. The duties of chair are solely administrative: board reports, and book keeping of committer nominations. Some projects at Apache have more formal incantations. We have, so far, preferred to maintain our lightweight approach meaning a committer is a PMC member too. This involves sending an email, updating a text file in SVN, and running a few perl scripts on http://people.apache.org. Keeping those books is important if some day there is a dispute to the veracity of our source. In evaluation of my current workload these additional book keeping responsibilities are not appropriate for me to prioritize and that is not fair to Cordova. I'm going to step down as chair for Cordova and I would like to nominate Shazron Abdullha to take on the role. Shaz has been with the project since before it was called Cordova. He lands more code than most, interacts directly with the community more than anyone, and is committed to work on Cordova solely full time. He'll be a better chair than I ever was. I won't be going anywhere and (I hope!) this means I can contribute more code than emails in the future. We can be formal and go to a vote if there is objection or interest in seeing someone else take the admin duties on. Otherwise, I'll aim to shoot the board official notice early next week. Please note that the procedure for changing the PMC chair is not the same as for changing PMC membership. This is because the chair is an officer of the ASF [1]. As such, changes to the chair can only occur at a board meeting, and require a formal motion rather than a simple NOTICE. An example template can be found here [2] (requires ASF committer login) [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/faq.html#why-are-PMC-chairs-officers [2] https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/templates/change-chair-resolution.txt
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
OK, hell has frozen over. Thanks sebb for that! That's actually insane that you can't quit until the meeting. You can normally resign a post by writing a resignation letter in most places. Why is this? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:13 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 April 2014 22:34, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Hello Cordova community. To this point I've served as the chair for the Cordova PMC. The duties of chair are solely administrative: board reports, and book keeping of committer nominations. Some projects at Apache have more formal incantations. We have, so far, preferred to maintain our lightweight approach meaning a committer is a PMC member too. This involves sending an email, updating a text file in SVN, and running a few perl scripts on http://people.apache.org. Keeping those books is important if some day there is a dispute to the veracity of our source. In evaluation of my current workload these additional book keeping responsibilities are not appropriate for me to prioritize and that is not fair to Cordova. I'm going to step down as chair for Cordova and I would like to nominate Shazron Abdullha to take on the role. Shaz has been with the project since before it was called Cordova. He lands more code than most, interacts directly with the community more than anyone, and is committed to work on Cordova solely full time. He'll be a better chair than I ever was. I won't be going anywhere and (I hope!) this means I can contribute more code than emails in the future. We can be formal and go to a vote if there is objection or interest in seeing someone else take the admin duties on. Otherwise, I'll aim to shoot the board official notice early next week. Please note that the procedure for changing the PMC chair is not the same as for changing PMC membership. This is because the chair is an officer of the ASF [1]. As such, changes to the chair can only occur at a board meeting, and require a formal motion rather than a simple NOTICE. An example template can be found here [2] (requires ASF committer login) [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/faq.html#why-are-PMC-chairs-officers [2] https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/templates/change-chair-resolution.txt
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
I mentioned that I would formally notify the board in which I was referencing this policy. =| On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: OK, hell has frozen over. Thanks sebb for that! That's actually insane that you can't quit until the meeting. You can normally resign a post by writing a resignation letter in most places. Why is this? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:13 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 April 2014 22:34, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Hello Cordova community. To this point I've served as the chair for the Cordova PMC. The duties of chair are solely administrative: board reports, and book keeping of committer nominations. Some projects at Apache have more formal incantations. We have, so far, preferred to maintain our lightweight approach meaning a committer is a PMC member too. This involves sending an email, updating a text file in SVN, and running a few perl scripts on http://people.apache.org. Keeping those books is important if some day there is a dispute to the veracity of our source. In evaluation of my current workload these additional book keeping responsibilities are not appropriate for me to prioritize and that is not fair to Cordova. I'm going to step down as chair for Cordova and I would like to nominate Shazron Abdullha to take on the role. Shaz has been with the project since before it was called Cordova. He lands more code than most, interacts directly with the community more than anyone, and is committed to work on Cordova solely full time. He'll be a better chair than I ever was. I won't be going anywhere and (I hope!) this means I can contribute more code than emails in the future. We can be formal and go to a vote if there is objection or interest in seeing someone else take the admin duties on. Otherwise, I'll aim to shoot the board official notice early next week. Please note that the procedure for changing the PMC chair is not the same as for changing PMC membership. This is because the chair is an officer of the ASF [1]. As such, changes to the chair can only occur at a board meeting, and require a formal motion rather than a simple NOTICE. An example template can be found here [2] (requires ASF committer login) [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/faq.html#why-are-PMC-chairs-officers [2] https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/templates/change-chair-resolution.txt
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: That's actually insane that you can't quit until the meeting. You can normally resign a post by writing a resignation letter in most places. Why is this? Brian could resign, but that would leave a vacancy until the Board passes a resolution appointing a new Chair. It's possible for the Board to act outside of the monthly meeting, it's just a pain. (See below for gory details excerpted from the Foundation's bylaws.) I speculate that making it non-trivial for the Board to change project VPs was done by design, but I don't know that for sure. Marvin Humphrey http://www.apache.org/foundation/bylaws#5.12 Section 5.12. Action Without a Meeting. Any action required or permitted to be taken at a meeting of the Board of Directors or of any committee thereof may be taken without a meeting if all the members of the board or committee, as the case may be, consent thereto in writing, and such writing is filed with the minutes of the proceedings of the board or committee. Such consent shall have the same effect as a unanimous vote. http://www.apache.org/foundation/bylaws#6.4 Section 6.4. Election and Term. The officers of the corporation and the members of each existing Project Management Committee shall be appointed by the Board of Directors or appointed by an officer empowered by the Board to make such appointment. Such appointment by the Board of Directors may be made at any regular or special meeting of the Board...
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
+1 to Shaz in the PMC Chair role. Brian, you've done a tremendous job helping to build the community and contribute to the direction. I hope that doesn't change! I got to meet Jim and other board members at ApacheCon a couple weeks ago. My takeaway is that they are super nice people, very reasonable, and want to do the right thing. I learned some of the nuance of the Apache Way, and have a better understanding of their perspective. Though some of the Apache approaches and processes may be different, the overall goals are not. I believe the flames which have been exchanged here are overblown and would dissipate quickly during a face-to-face with some beverages. Sometimes email isn't a good vehicle for understanding another person. On Apr 22, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I'm going to step down as chair for Cordova and I would like to nominate Shazron Abdullha to take on the role.
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
yep +1 to shaz, known (and worked on and off with) him for ten years and once you get used to his jokes (~ year 6) he's fine. Off topic: Joe and Jim, please may you each put up email filters for the others' comments? Its almost entirely you two trolls yelling at each other, throwing salt in wounds, in every thread about cordova vs apache (actually they should be called Joe vs Jim threads). The problems with our PMC and the Board are being blown way, way out of proportion I think. i think jim and sebb's input is productive on any, and seemingly every, email thread we have ever had, and their contribution to cordova has been invaluable and i look forward to working with them more closely in the future. -brett
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
Brian, thank you for all of the hard work that you've done over the past few years. Drinks will have to be on the Cordova team. +1 Shaz for all the reasons listed above. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 1:36 PM, RUDD, Brett brettr...@gmail.com wrote: yep +1 to shaz, known (and worked on and off with) him for ten years and once you get used to his jokes (~ year 6) he's fine. Off topic: Joe and Jim, please may you each put up email filters for the others' comments? Its almost entirely you two trolls yelling at each other, throwing salt in wounds, in every thread about cordova vs apache (actually they should be called Joe vs Jim threads). The problems with our PMC and the Board are being blown way, way out of proportion I think. i think jim and sebb's input is productive on any, and seemingly every, email thread we have ever had, and their contribution to cordova has been invaluable and i look forward to working with them more closely in the future. -brett
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
+1 for Shaz! Thanks for everything Brian! On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Michael Brooks mich...@michaelbrooks.cawrote: Brian, thank you for all of the hard work that you've done over the past few years. Drinks will have to be on the Cordova team. +1 Shaz for all the reasons listed above. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 1:36 PM, RUDD, Brett brettr...@gmail.com wrote: yep +1 to shaz, known (and worked on and off with) him for ten years and once you get used to his jokes (~ year 6) he's fine. Off topic: Joe and Jim, please may you each put up email filters for the others' comments? Its almost entirely you two trolls yelling at each other, throwing salt in wounds, in every thread about cordova vs apache (actually they should be called Joe vs Jim threads). The problems with our PMC and the Board are being blown way, way out of proportion I think. i think jim and sebb's input is productive on any, and seemingly every, email thread we have ever had, and their contribution to cordova has been invaluable and i look forward to working with them more closely in the future. -brett
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
Geez, see how bad I am at this? I meant Shazron Abdullah not that other guy. =S On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Hello Cordova community. To this point I've served as the chair for the Cordova PMC. The duties of chair are solely administrative: board reports, and book keeping of committer nominations. Some projects at Apache have more formal incantations. We have, so far, preferred to maintain our lightweight approach meaning a committer is a PMC member too. This involves sending an email, updating a text file in SVN, and running a few perl scripts on http://people.apache.org. Keeping those books is important if some day there is a dispute to the veracity of our source. In evaluation of my current workload these additional book keeping responsibilities are not appropriate for me to prioritize and that is not fair to Cordova. I'm going to step down as chair for Cordova and I would like to nominate Shazron Abdullha to take on the role. Shaz has been with the project since before it was called Cordova. He lands more code than most, interacts directly with the community more than anyone, and is committed to work on Cordova solely full time. He'll be a better chair than I ever was. I won't be going anywhere and (I hope!) this means I can contribute more code than emails in the future. We can be formal and go to a vote if there is objection or interest in seeing someone else take the admin duties on. Otherwise, I'll aim to shoot the board official notice early next week.
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
Good stuff, Shazron has always been a huge resource, main guy I turn to for any deeper questions. Just hoping this doesn't cut into the amount of awesome updates and enhancements we see! :) On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Geez, see how bad I am at this? I meant Shazron Abdullah not that other guy. =S On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Hello Cordova community. To this point I've served as the chair for the Cordova PMC. The duties of chair are solely administrative: board reports, and book keeping of committer nominations. Some projects at Apache have more formal incantations. We have, so far, preferred to maintain our lightweight approach meaning a committer is a PMC member too. This involves sending an email, updating a text file in SVN, and running a few perl scripts on http://people.apache.org. Keeping those books is important if some day there is a dispute to the veracity of our source. In evaluation of my current workload these additional book keeping responsibilities are not appropriate for me to prioritize and that is not fair to Cordova. I'm going to step down as chair for Cordova and I would like to nominate Shazron Abdullha to take on the role. Shaz has been with the project since before it was called Cordova. He lands more code than most, interacts directly with the community more than anyone, and is committed to work on Cordova solely full time. He'll be a better chair than I ever was. I won't be going anywhere and (I hope!) this means I can contribute more code than emails in the future. We can be formal and go to a vote if there is objection or interest in seeing someone else take the admin duties on. Otherwise, I'll aim to shoot the board official notice early next week.
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
I'll second the nomination. I think Shaz is a perfect candidate. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ross Gerbasi rgerb...@gmail.com wrote: Good stuff, Shazron has always been a huge resource, main guy I turn to for any deeper questions. Just hoping this doesn't cut into the amount of awesome updates and enhancements we see! :) On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Geez, see how bad I am at this? I meant Shazron Abdullah not that other guy. =S On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Hello Cordova community. To this point I've served as the chair for the Cordova PMC. The duties of chair are solely administrative: board reports, and book keeping of committer nominations. Some projects at Apache have more formal incantations. We have, so far, preferred to maintain our lightweight approach meaning a committer is a PMC member too. This involves sending an email, updating a text file in SVN, and running a few perl scripts on http://people.apache.org. Keeping those books is important if some day there is a dispute to the veracity of our source. In evaluation of my current workload these additional book keeping responsibilities are not appropriate for me to prioritize and that is not fair to Cordova. I'm going to step down as chair for Cordova and I would like to nominate Shazron Abdullha to take on the role. Shaz has been with the project since before it was called Cordova. He lands more code than most, interacts directly with the community more than anyone, and is committed to work on Cordova solely full time. He'll be a better chair than I ever was. I won't be going anywhere and (I hope!) this means I can contribute more code than emails in the future. We can be formal and go to a vote if there is objection or interest in seeing someone else take the admin duties on. Otherwise, I'll aim to shoot the board official notice early next week.
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
+1 to this! On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: I'll second the nomination. I think Shaz is a perfect candidate. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ross Gerbasi rgerb...@gmail.com wrote: Good stuff, Shazron has always been a huge resource, main guy I turn to for any deeper questions. Just hoping this doesn't cut into the amount of awesome updates and enhancements we see! :) On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Geez, see how bad I am at this? I meant Shazron Abdullah not that other guy. =S On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Hello Cordova community. To this point I've served as the chair for the Cordova PMC. The duties of chair are solely administrative: board reports, and book keeping of committer nominations. Some projects at Apache have more formal incantations. We have, so far, preferred to maintain our lightweight approach meaning a committer is a PMC member too. This involves sending an email, updating a text file in SVN, and running a few perl scripts on http://people.apache.org. Keeping those books is important if some day there is a dispute to the veracity of our source. In evaluation of my current workload these additional book keeping responsibilities are not appropriate for me to prioritize and that is not fair to Cordova. I'm going to step down as chair for Cordova and I would like to nominate Shazron Abdullha to take on the role. Shaz has been with the project since before it was called Cordova. He lands more code than most, interacts directly with the community more than anyone, and is committed to work on Cordova solely full time. He'll be a better chair than I ever was. I won't be going anywhere and (I hope!) this means I can contribute more code than emails in the future. We can be formal and go to a vote if there is objection or interest in seeing someone else take the admin duties on. Otherwise, I'll aim to shoot the board official notice early next week.
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
+1 On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: +1 to this! On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: I'll second the nomination. I think Shaz is a perfect candidate. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ross Gerbasi rgerb...@gmail.com wrote: Good stuff, Shazron has always been a huge resource, main guy I turn to for any deeper questions. Just hoping this doesn't cut into the amount of awesome updates and enhancements we see! :) On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Geez, see how bad I am at this? I meant Shazron Abdullah not that other guy. =S On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Hello Cordova community. To this point I've served as the chair for the Cordova PMC. The duties of chair are solely administrative: board reports, and book keeping of committer nominations. Some projects at Apache have more formal incantations. We have, so far, preferred to maintain our lightweight approach meaning a committer is a PMC member too. This involves sending an email, updating a text file in SVN, and running a few perl scripts on http://people.apache.org. Keeping those books is important if some day there is a dispute to the veracity of our source. In evaluation of my current workload these additional book keeping responsibilities are not appropriate for me to prioritize and that is not fair to Cordova. I'm going to step down as chair for Cordova and I would like to nominate Shazron Abdullha to take on the role. Shaz has been with the project since before it was called Cordova. He lands more code than most, interacts directly with the community more than anyone, and is committed to work on Cordova solely full time. He'll be a better chair than I ever was. I won't be going anywhere and (I hope!) this means I can contribute more code than emails in the future. We can be formal and go to a vote if there is objection or interest in seeing someone else take the admin duties on. Otherwise, I'll aim to shoot the board official notice early next week.
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
A solid +1 from myself as well... Assuming he wants the job :) On 23 Apr 2014 09:10, Al Harding alharding...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: +1 to this! On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: I'll second the nomination. I think Shaz is a perfect candidate. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ross Gerbasi rgerb...@gmail.com wrote: Good stuff, Shazron has always been a huge resource, main guy I turn to for any deeper questions. Just hoping this doesn't cut into the amount of awesome updates and enhancements we see! :) On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Geez, see how bad I am at this? I meant Shazron Abdullah not that other guy. =S On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Hello Cordova community. To this point I've served as the chair for the Cordova PMC. The duties of chair are solely administrative: board reports, and book keeping of committer nominations. Some projects at Apache have more formal incantations. We have, so far, preferred to maintain our lightweight approach meaning a committer is a PMC member too. This involves sending an email, updating a text file in SVN, and running a few perl scripts on http://people.apache.org. Keeping those books is important if some day there is a dispute to the veracity of our source. In evaluation of my current workload these additional book keeping responsibilities are not appropriate for me to prioritize and that is not fair to Cordova. I'm going to step down as chair for Cordova and I would like to nominate Shazron Abdullha to take on the role. Shaz has been with the project since before it was called Cordova. He lands more code than most, interacts directly with the community more than anyone, and is committed to work on Cordova solely full time. He'll be a better chair than I ever was. I won't be going anywhere and (I hope!) this means I can contribute more code than emails in the future. We can be formal and go to a vote if there is objection or interest in seeing someone else take the admin duties on. Otherwise, I'll aim to shoot the board official notice early next week.
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: There is one other aspect of the chair which, for a somewhat newish PMC is important: The entire PMC is responsible for ensuring that the project is run in a way which abides by, and embraces, the Apache Way... when it doesn't, the Chair needs to (1) know that the PMC is going awry and (2) encourage the PMC to fix those problems and (3) interact w/ the board if the PMC needs help in doing so. So, who is to protect the PMC from yourself and rest of the board trying to destroy the project with insults and vitriol? While I believe that Shazron is up to the task, I'm convinced that The Apache Way is the worst way to run a software project, and that the Apache Board spends all their time trying to find ways to debate itself into irrelevancy. I wish that we never joined the ASF, and honestly when you told us that we should leave months ago, I welcomed it. That being said, we're still here, despite your best efforts. We've seen what happens when the board tries to help, and it generally pisses a bunch of committers off, and ends up with people insulting each other personally. This response to your first e-mail on this list should not come as any surprise. The fact is that Shaz fits well, because unlike me, he is diplomatic and won't tell you to jump off a cliff every time you or any other Apache person comes in and tries to interfere with our project. Not knowing Shaz personally, how does that all fit in with the nomination? On Apr 22, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Hello Cordova community. To this point I've served as the chair for the Cordova PMC. The duties of chair are solely administrative: board reports, and book keeping of committer nominations. Some projects at Apache have more formal incantations. We have, so far, preferred to maintain our lightweight approach meaning a committer is a PMC member too. This involves sending an email, updating a text file in SVN, and running a few perl scripts on http://people.apache.org. Keeping those books is important if some day there is a dispute to the veracity of our source. In evaluation of my current workload these additional book keeping responsibilities are not appropriate for me to prioritize and that is not fair to Cordova. I'm going to step down as chair for Cordova and I would like to nominate Shazron Abdullha to take on the role. Shaz has been with the project since before it was called Cordova. He lands more code than most, interacts directly with the community more than anyone, and is committed to work on Cordova solely full time. He'll be a better chair than I ever was. I won't be going anywhere and (I hope!) this means I can contribute more code than emails in the future. We can be formal and go to a vote if there is objection or interest in seeing someone else take the admin duties on. Otherwise, I'll aim to shoot the board official notice early next week.
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
Sounds good to me. (Do we need a vote thread for this?) Responsibilities for PMC chair: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair Note also to others who are on the Cordova PMC (http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#cordova-pmc) PMC members have responsibilities as well: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#policy Mostly, we are responsible for making sure our releases are up to par. On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Tommy Williams to...@devgeeks.org wrote: A solid +1 from myself as well... Assuming he wants the job :) On 23 Apr 2014 09:10, Al Harding alharding...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: +1 to this! On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: I'll second the nomination. I think Shaz is a perfect candidate. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ross Gerbasi rgerb...@gmail.com wrote: Good stuff, Shazron has always been a huge resource, main guy I turn to for any deeper questions. Just hoping this doesn't cut into the amount of awesome updates and enhancements we see! :) On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Geez, see how bad I am at this? I meant Shazron Abdullah not that other guy. =S On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Hello Cordova community. To this point I've served as the chair for the Cordova PMC. The duties of chair are solely administrative: board reports, and book keeping of committer nominations. Some projects at Apache have more formal incantations. We have, so far, preferred to maintain our lightweight approach meaning a committer is a PMC member too. This involves sending an email, updating a text file in SVN, and running a few perl scripts on http://people.apache.org. Keeping those books is important if some day there is a dispute to the veracity of our source. In evaluation of my current workload these additional book keeping responsibilities are not appropriate for me to prioritize and that is not fair to Cordova. I'm going to step down as chair for Cordova and I would like to nominate Shazron Abdullha to take on the role. Shaz has been with the project since before it was called Cordova. He lands more code than most, interacts directly with the community more than anyone, and is committed to work on Cordova solely full time. He'll be a better chair than I ever was. I won't be going anywhere and (I hope!) this means I can contribute more code than emails in the future. We can be formal and go to a vote if there is objection or interest in seeing someone else take the admin duties on. Otherwise, I'll aim to shoot the board official notice early next week.
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
Joe - totally uncalled for. Not sure where it even came from. If you hate Apache so much, then why are you a *volunteer* on an Apache project? I'm fairly confident that there is not a good understanding of what it means to be a PMC, or PMC chair, and Jim is spending his time to help us out. Jim - thank you. On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: There is one other aspect of the chair which, for a somewhat newish PMC is important: The entire PMC is responsible for ensuring that the project is run in a way which abides by, and embraces, the Apache Way... when it doesn't, the Chair needs to (1) know that the PMC is going awry and (2) encourage the PMC to fix those problems and (3) interact w/ the board if the PMC needs help in doing so. So, who is to protect the PMC from yourself and rest of the board trying to destroy the project with insults and vitriol? While I believe that Shazron is up to the task, I'm convinced that The Apache Way is the worst way to run a software project, and that the Apache Board spends all their time trying to find ways to debate itself into irrelevancy. I wish that we never joined the ASF, and honestly when you told us that we should leave months ago, I welcomed it. That being said, we're still here, despite your best efforts. We've seen what happens when the board tries to help, and it generally pisses a bunch of committers off, and ends up with people insulting each other personally. This response to your first e-mail on this list should not come as any surprise. The fact is that Shaz fits well, because unlike me, he is diplomatic and won't tell you to jump off a cliff every time you or any other Apache person comes in and tries to interfere with our project. Not knowing Shaz personally, how does that all fit in with the nomination? On Apr 22, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Hello Cordova community. To this point I've served as the chair for the Cordova PMC. The duties of chair are solely administrative: board reports, and book keeping of committer nominations. Some projects at Apache have more formal incantations. We have, so far, preferred to maintain our lightweight approach meaning a committer is a PMC member too. This involves sending an email, updating a text file in SVN, and running a few perl scripts on http://people.apache.org. Keeping those books is important if some day there is a dispute to the veracity of our source. In evaluation of my current workload these additional book keeping responsibilities are not appropriate for me to prioritize and that is not fair to Cordova. I'm going to step down as chair for Cordova and I would like to nominate Shazron Abdullha to take on the role. Shaz has been with the project since before it was called Cordova. He lands more code than most, interacts directly with the community more than anyone, and is committed to work on Cordova solely full time. He'll be a better chair than I ever was. I won't be going anywhere and (I hope!) this means I can contribute more code than emails in the future. We can be formal and go to a vote if there is objection or interest in seeing someone else take the admin duties on. Otherwise, I'll aim to shoot the board official notice early next week.
RE: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
+1 -Original Message- From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 3:35 PM To: dev Subject: Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova +1 to this! On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: I'll second the nomination. I think Shaz is a perfect candidate. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ross Gerbasi rgerb...@gmail.com wrote: Good stuff, Shazron has always been a huge resource, main guy I turn to for any deeper questions. Just hoping this doesn't cut into the amount of awesome updates and enhancements we see! :) On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Geez, see how bad I am at this? I meant Shazron Abdullah not that other guy. =S On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Hello Cordova community. To this point I've served as the chair for the Cordova PMC. The duties of chair are solely administrative: board reports, and book keeping of committer nominations. Some projects at Apache have more formal incantations. We have, so far, preferred to maintain our lightweight approach meaning a committer is a PMC member too. This involves sending an email, updating a text file in SVN, and running a few perl scripts on http://people.apache.org. Keeping those books is important if some day there is a dispute to the veracity of our source. In evaluation of my current workload these additional book keeping responsibilities are not appropriate for me to prioritize and that is not fair to Cordova. I'm going to step down as chair for Cordova and I would like to nominate Shazron Abdullha to take on the role. Shaz has been with the project since before it was called Cordova. He lands more code than most, interacts directly with the community more than anyone, and is committed to work on Cordova solely full time. He'll be a better chair than I ever was. I won't be going anywhere and (I hope!) this means I can contribute more code than emails in the future. We can be formal and go to a vote if there is objection or interest in seeing someone else take the admin duties on. Otherwise, I'll aim to shoot the board official notice early next week.
Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
Coming from Joe's perspective this is year 6 of the source code now known as Cordova. Jim and others have as much merit in our world as we clearly do in theirs. It is not uncalled for and very obvious where the sentiment comes from. Members of the board care deeply about Apache and we care deeply about Cordova. Finding a respectful and productive balance would be nice though clearly this is not mandatory. Anyhow, the very concept of PMC was always intended to be no different than committer in Cordova. This was understood and acknowledged during incubation. Despite the language of meritocracy there's a hierarchical pyramid at Apache (Contributor-Committer-PMC-Member) and we very deliberately chose to incorporate Committer and PMC Member at the same time. If you are good enough to land a patch you are good enough to be involved in the releasing of it. We have always intended to continue with a flat structure though given recent board help with releasing I could see this changing too. Simply put, ideally there is zero barrier to contribute and ship. Anything that gets in the way of contribution and releasing is inviting higher chance of project failure. Some of the Apache rules are build up of old policy that has become meaningless ceremony. We need to get better at acknowledging that for what it is and fixing Apache. (Another example would be eradicating the harmful concepts in meritocracy.) But back at Jim's comment: yes I very much do believe Shaz lives up the conveniently vague term The Apache Way as I understand it [1] but please do check the facts. [1] http://brian.io/slides/codemania-2014/#/16 On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Joe - totally uncalled for. Not sure where it even came from. If you hate Apache so much, then why are you a *volunteer* on an Apache project? I'm fairly confident that there is not a good understanding of what it means to be a PMC, or PMC chair, and Jim is spending his time to help us out. Jim - thank you. On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: There is one other aspect of the chair which, for a somewhat newish PMC is important: The entire PMC is responsible for ensuring that the project is run in a way which abides by, and embraces, the Apache Way... when it doesn't, the Chair needs to (1) know that the PMC is going awry and (2) encourage the PMC to fix those problems and (3) interact w/ the board if the PMC needs help in doing so. So, who is to protect the PMC from yourself and rest of the board trying to destroy the project with insults and vitriol? While I believe that Shazron is up to the task, I'm convinced that The Apache Way is the worst way to run a software project, and that the Apache Board spends all their time trying to find ways to debate itself into irrelevancy. I wish that we never joined the ASF, and honestly when you told us that we should leave months ago, I welcomed it. That being said, we're still here, despite your best efforts. We've seen what happens when the board tries to help, and it generally pisses a bunch of committers off, and ends up with people insulting each other personally. This response to your first e-mail on this list should not come as any surprise. The fact is that Shaz fits well, because unlike me, he is diplomatic and won't tell you to jump off a cliff every time you or any other Apache person comes in and tries to interfere with our project. Not knowing Shaz personally, how does that all fit in with the nomination? On Apr 22, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Hello Cordova community. To this point I've served as the chair for the Cordova PMC. The duties of chair are solely administrative: board reports, and book keeping of committer nominations. Some projects at Apache have more formal incantations. We have, so far, preferred to maintain our lightweight approach meaning a committer is a PMC member too. This involves sending an email, updating a text file in SVN, and running a few perl scripts on http://people.apache.org. Keeping those books is important if some day there is a dispute to the veracity of our source. In evaluation of my current workload these additional book keeping responsibilities are not appropriate for me to prioritize and that is not fair to Cordova. I'm going to step down as chair for Cordova and I would like to nominate Shazron Abdullha to take on the role. Shaz has been with the project since before it was called Cordova. He lands more code than most, interacts directly with the community more than anyone, and is committed to work on Cordova solely full time. He'll be a better chair than I ever was. I won't be going anywhere and (I hope!) this means I can contribute more code than emails in the future. We can be
