Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[Harshad Nakil]

Forcing OpenContrail to give up identity that got us here since last five years 
is not right. 
It is also being ungrateful to creativity. 

I never understood the insistence to be part of LF. 


Regards
-Harshad


> On Nov 30, 2017, at 6:15 PM, Gregory Elkinbard  wrote:
> 
> I will ask the LF folks,
> But please note that RedHat does not actually own, or tried to own Linux as a 
> trademark.
> RedHat site seems to claims that Enterprise Linux is a registered trademark 
> it is actually not.
>  
> Enterprise Linux was filed and abandoned in 2008 by some magazine, RedHat 
> filed Enterprise Linux Advanced Platform which also
> was abandoned in 2008 and trademark was never granted according to US
>  
> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc=4809:yjpkzi.2.3
> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc=4809:yjpkzi.2.1
>  
> So RedHat is using Linux in the product name without owning the trademark.
> They also should not have a registration mark against Enterprise Linux on 
> their site as It is not a USA registered trademark.
>  
> We do need to retain Contrail as trademark not just use it in the product 
> name.
>  
> Both internal lawyers and LF lawyers had a fit. Trust me I did not give up 
> this fight easily.
>  
> Greg
>  
>  
>  
> From: Dev  on behalf of Sachin Bansal 
> 
> Date: Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 5:38 PM
> To: Harshad Nakil 
> Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
> Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
>  
> +1
>  
> I also see double standards here. They have no problem with Redhat selling a 
> product with ‘Linux’ in its name.
>  
> Sachin
>  
> On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:21 PM, Harshad Nakil  wrote:
>  
> +1
>  
> On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:18 PM, Ashish Ranjan  wrote:
>  
> I would rather go to Apache foundation or somewhere else if Linux foundation 
> has issues with ‘contrail’. There is no way we should try to rename this and 
> create confusion (and dilute brand).
>  
> I am not an expert but I see there are many open source projects (like 
> Docker, Kafka) with commercial version.
>  
> Ashish
>  
> From: Dev  on behalf of Nachi Ueno 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 3:43:51 PM
> To: Randy Bias; Robert Raszuk
> Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
> Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
>  
> then how about OpenSurströmming? ( I'm just kidding :) )
> 
> BTW, "Contrail" is "hikoki-gumo" or "kousekiun" in Japanese.
> 
> 
> From: Randy Bias
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:58:59 PM
> To: Robert Raszuk
> Cc: Gregory Elkinbard; Nachi Ueno; Gasparakis, Joseph; EXT - 
> dun...@bluechiptek.com; dev@lists.opencontrail.org
> Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
> 
> Yeah. Not a big fan of natto. Even with an egg on it.
> 
> 
> --Randy
> 
> 
> *** Sent from mobile, pls forgive tpyoes ***
> 
> On Nov 30, 2017, at 14:21, Robert Raszuk 
> > wrote:
> 
> Hey Nachi,
> 
> > BTW how about natto? this food seems like a network :P 
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natt%C5%8D
> 
> Do you really want to discourage people from using it :)))  ?
> 
> Cheers,
> R,
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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[Gregory Elkinbard]

Docker is a single company project. It is not owned by a foundation. Foundation 
owns Open Container Initiative.
Kafka is apache. Commercial Kafka is Confluent Platform Enterprise. For the 
same reason why there is no Hadoop in Cloudera EDH or Horton HDP

Apache trademark policy is similar to LF. It is actually more extensive and 
restrictive then LF.

Greg




From: Dev  on behalf of Ashish Ranjan 

Date: Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 5:19 PM
To: Nachi Ueno , Randy Bias , Robert 
Raszuk 
Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

I would rather go to Apache foundation or somewhere else if Linux foundation 
has issues with ‘contrail’. There is no way we should try to rename this and 
create confusion (and dilute brand).

I am not an expert but I see there are many open source projects (like Docker, 
Kafka) with commercial version.

Ashish


From: Dev  on behalf of Nachi Ueno 

Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 3:43:51 PM
To: Randy Bias; Robert Raszuk
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

then how about OpenSurströmming? ( I'm just kidding :) )

BTW, "Contrail" is "hikoki-gumo" or "kousekiun" in Japanese.


From: Randy Bias
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:58:59 PM
To: Robert Raszuk
Cc: Gregory Elkinbard; Nachi Ueno; Gasparakis, Joseph; EXT - 
dun...@bluechiptek.com; dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Yeah. Not a big fan of natto. Even with an egg on it.


--Randy


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On Nov 30, 2017, at 14:21, Robert Raszuk 
> wrote:

Hey Nachi,

> BTW how about natto? this food seems like a network :P 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natt%C5%8D>

Do you really want to discourage people from using it :)))  ?

Cheers,
R,


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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[Nachi Ueno]

+1

Best,
Nachi Ueno

2017/11/30 17:38、Sachin Bansal 
>のメール:

+1

I also see double standards here. They have no problem with Redhat selling a 
product with ‘Linux’ in its name.

Sachin

On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:21 PM, Harshad Nakil 
> wrote:

+1

On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:18 PM, Ashish Ranjan 
> wrote:

I would rather go to Apache foundation or somewhere else if Linux foundation 
has issues with ‘contrail’. There is no way we should try to rename this and 
create confusion (and dilute brand).

I am not an expert but I see there are many open source projects (like Docker, 
Kafka) with commercial version.

Ashish


From: Dev 
> 
on behalf of Nachi Ueno >
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 3:43:51 PM
To: Randy Bias; Robert Raszuk
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

then how about OpenSurströmming? ( I'm just kidding :) )

BTW, "Contrail" is "hikoki-gumo" or "kousekiun" in Japanese.


From: Randy Bias
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:58:59 PM
To: Robert Raszuk
Cc: Gregory Elkinbard; Nachi Ueno; Gasparakis, Joseph; EXT - 
dun...@bluechiptek.com; 
dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Yeah. Not a big fan of natto. Even with an egg on it.


--Randy


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> wrote:

Hey Nachi,

> BTW how about natto? this food seems like a network :P 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natt%C5%8D>

Do you really want to discourage people from using it :)))  ?

Cheers,
R,


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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[Edward Ting]

IMHO, LF has a larger community than Apache in the Networking domain, like 
OPNFV, ONAP, where Telco are adopting.

Edward

From: Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org] On Behalf Of Harshad Nakil
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:21 PM
To: Ashish Ranjan
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

+1

On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:18 PM, Ashish Ranjan 
> wrote:

I would rather go to Apache foundation or somewhere else if Linux foundation 
has issues with ‘contrail’. There is no way we should try to rename this and 
create confusion (and dilute brand).

I am not an expert but I see there are many open source projects (like Docker, 
Kafka) with commercial version.

Ashish


From: Dev 
> 
on behalf of Nachi Ueno >
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 3:43:51 PM
To: Randy Bias; Robert Raszuk
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

then how about OpenSurströmming? ( I'm just kidding :) )

BTW, "Contrail" is "hikoki-gumo" or "kousekiun" in Japanese.


From: Randy Bias
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:58:59 PM
To: Robert Raszuk
Cc: Gregory Elkinbard; Nachi Ueno; Gasparakis, Joseph; EXT - 
dun...@bluechiptek.com; 
dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Yeah. Not a big fan of natto. Even with an egg on it.


--Randy


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On Nov 30, 2017, at 14:21, Robert Raszuk 
> wrote:

Hey Nachi,

> BTW how about natto? this food seems like a network :P 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natt%C5%8D>

Do you really want to discourage people from using it :)))  ?

Cheers,
R,


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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[Sachin Bansal]

+1

I also see double standards here. They have no problem with Redhat selling a 
product with ‘Linux’ in its name.

Sachin

On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:21 PM, Harshad Nakil 
> wrote:

+1

On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:18 PM, Ashish Ranjan 
> wrote:

I would rather go to Apache foundation or somewhere else if Linux foundation 
has issues with ‘contrail’. There is no way we should try to rename this and 
create confusion (and dilute brand).

I am not an expert but I see there are many open source projects (like Docker, 
Kafka) with commercial version.

Ashish


From: Dev 
> 
on behalf of Nachi Ueno >
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 3:43:51 PM
To: Randy Bias; Robert Raszuk
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

then how about OpenSurströmming? ( I'm just kidding :) )

BTW, "Contrail" is "hikoki-gumo" or "kousekiun" in Japanese.


From: Randy Bias
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:58:59 PM
To: Robert Raszuk
Cc: Gregory Elkinbard; Nachi Ueno; Gasparakis, Joseph; EXT - 
dun...@bluechiptek.com; 
dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Yeah. Not a big fan of natto. Even with an egg on it.


--Randy


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On Nov 30, 2017, at 14:21, Robert Raszuk 
> wrote:

Hey Nachi,

> BTW how about natto? this food seems like a network :P 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natt%C5%8D>

Do you really want to discourage people from using it :)))  ?

Cheers,
R,


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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[Harshad Nakil]

+1

> On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:18 PM, Ashish Ranjan  wrote:
> 
> I would rather go to Apache foundation or somewhere else if Linux foundation 
> has issues with ‘contrail’. There is no way we should try to rename this and 
> create confusion (and dilute brand).
> 
> I am not an expert but I see there are many open source projects (like 
> Docker, Kafka) with commercial version.
> 
> Ashish
> 
> From: Dev  on behalf of Nachi Ueno 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 3:43:51 PM
> To: Randy Bias; Robert Raszuk
> Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
> Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
>  
> then how about OpenSurströmming? ( I'm just kidding :) )
> 
> BTW, "Contrail" is "hikoki-gumo" or "kousekiun" in Japanese.
> 
> 
> From: Randy Bias
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:58:59 PM
> To: Robert Raszuk
> Cc: Gregory Elkinbard; Nachi Ueno; Gasparakis, Joseph; EXT - 
> dun...@bluechiptek.com; dev@lists.opencontrail.org
> Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
> 
> Yeah. Not a big fan of natto. Even with an egg on it.
> 
> 
> --Randy
> 
> 
> *** Sent from mobile, pls forgive tpyoes ***
> 
> On Nov 30, 2017, at 14:21, Robert Raszuk 
> > wrote:
> 
> Hey Nachi,
> 
> > BTW how about natto? this food seems like a network :P 
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natt%C5%8D >  
> > >
> 
> Do you really want to discourage people from using it :)))  ?
> 
> Cheers,
> R,
> 
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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[Ashish Ranjan]

I would rather go to Apache foundation or somewhere else if Linux foundation 
has issues with 'contrail'. There is no way we should try to rename this and 
create confusion (and dilute brand).

I am not an expert but I see there are many open source projects (like Docker, 
Kafka) with commercial version.

Ashish


From: Dev  on behalf of Nachi Ueno 

Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 3:43:51 PM
To: Randy Bias; Robert Raszuk
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

then how about OpenSurströmming? ( I'm just kidding :) )

BTW, "Contrail" is "hikoki-gumo" or "kousekiun" in Japanese.


From: Randy Bias
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:58:59 PM
To: Robert Raszuk
Cc: Gregory Elkinbard; Nachi Ueno; Gasparakis, Joseph; EXT - 
dun...@bluechiptek.com; dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Yeah. Not a big fan of natto. Even with an egg on it.


--Randy


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On Nov 30, 2017, at 14:21, Robert Raszuk 
> wrote:

Hey Nachi,

> BTW how about natto? this food seems like a network :P 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natt%C5%8D

Do you really want to discourage people from using it :)))  ?

Cheers,
R,


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Re: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

[Gregory Elkinbard]

Lets use what we got.
I’ve asked for a pro set up but no clue if it will get there.
Greg


From: "CARVER, PAUL" 
Date: Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 4:43 AM
To: Gregory Elkinbard , Aniket Daptari 
, Sukhdev Kapur 
Cc: Edward Ting , "Gasparakis, Joseph" 
, "Yang, Yi Y" , 
"dev@lists.opencontrail.org" , Rudra Rugge 

Subject: RE: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

No, sorry. It’s just a regular “HD” camera I bought a couple years ago. If 
anyone does have a 4K camera they want to bring, I’ll defer to them. Or, an 
option would be to do both Zoom video and a YouTube (or other) livestream with 
one camera positioned right up close to capture only the whiteboard and another 
camera for a wider shot of the room. Remote participants would be able to 
choose between watching one or both depending on how much monitor 
size/resolution and bandwidth they have available.

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From: Gregory Elkinbard [mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 22:30
To: CARVER, PAUL ; Aniket Daptari ; 
Sukhdev Kapur 
Cc: Edward Ting ; Gasparakis, Joseph 
; Yang, Yi Y ; 
dev@lists.opencontrail.org; Rudra Rugge 
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

Zoom will record video.
Recording is auto set for both sessions. Any chance the camera is 4k so that we 
can read the white board in video?

G


From: "CARVER, PAUL" >
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 6:55 AM
To: Gregory Elkinbard >, 
Aniket Daptari >, 
Sukhdev Kapur >
Cc: Edward Ting >, "Gasparakis, 
Joseph" >, 
"Yang, Yi Y" >, 
"dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
>, Rudra Rugge 
>
Subject: RE: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

I’m planning to bring along the USB video camera that I brought to the St Louis 
Contrail summit and share that via Zoom so that remote participants will have 
some view of the on-site room, but I don’t know if Zoom will record it. If 
somebody wanted to, they could do something like a YouTube live stream on their 
phone but I’m not sure how much value that would have. Given our lack of 
budget, don’t expect a professional conference video recording setup.

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From: Gregory Elkinbard [mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 02:24
To: Aniket Daptari 
>; Sukhdev Kapur 
>
Cc: CARVER, PAUL >; Edward Ting 
>; Gasparakis, Joseph 
>; Yang, Yi Y 
>; 
dev@lists.opencontrail.org; Rudra Rugge 
>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

Not quite.
Zoom will record presentations and audio. But I do not think we opted for a 
full video set up.
Greg


From: > on behalf of Aniket 
Daptari >
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 10:05 PM
To: Sukhdev Kapur >
Cc: "CARVER, PAUL" >, Edward Ting 
>, "Gasparakis, Joseph" 
>, "Yang, Yi Y" 
>, Gregory Elkinbard 
>, 
"dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
>, Rudra Rugge 
>
Subject: Re: 

Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[Nachi Ueno]

then how about OpenSurströmming? ( I'm just kidding :) )

BTW, "Contrail" is "hikoki-gumo" or "kousekiun" in Japanese.


From: Randy Bias
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:58:59 PM
To: Robert Raszuk
Cc: Gregory Elkinbard; Nachi Ueno; Gasparakis, Joseph; EXT - 
dun...@bluechiptek.com; dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Yeah. Not a big fan of natto. Even with an egg on it.


--Randy


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On Nov 30, 2017, at 14:21, Robert Raszuk 
> wrote:

Hey Nachi,

> BTW how about natto? this food seems like a network :P 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natt%C5%8D

Do you really want to discourage people from using it :)))  ?

Cheers,
R,


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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[Randy Bias]

Yeah. Not a big fan of natto. Even with an egg on it.


--Randy


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On Nov 30, 2017, at 14:21, Robert Raszuk 
> wrote:

Hey Nachi,

> BTW how about natto? this food seems like a network :P 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natt%C5%8D

Do you really want to discourage people from using it :)))  ?

Cheers,
R,

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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[CARVER, PAUL]

Could be worse:

https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2008-08-08
https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2008-08-10


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From: Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org] On Behalf Of Robert Raszuk
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 17:21
To: Gregory Elkinbard 
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Hey Nachi,

> BTW how about natto? this food seems like a network :P 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natt%C5%8D

Do you really want to discourage people from using it :)))  ?

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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[Nachi Ueno]

I would say network in the Japanse is 網 ( ami or mou )
Nettowaku is a Japanese way of pronouncing "network".

BTW how about natto? this food seems like a network :P 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natt%C5%8D


From: Dev  on behalf of Gregory Elkinbard 

Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:07:25 PM
To: Gasparakis, Joseph; Randy Bias; EXT - dun...@bluechiptek.com
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Network is reto in Esperanto and Nettowaku in Japanese.



From: Dev  on behalf of "Gasparakis, 
Joseph" 
Date: Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 1:20 PM
To: Randy Bias , "EXT - dun...@bluechiptek.com" 

Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

And I think I changed my mind about buying the domain… ☺

From: Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org] On Behalf Of Randy Bias
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:54 PM
To: EXT - dun...@bluechiptek.com 
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

I think that’s a pretty legitimate concern.

--Randy




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On Nov 30, 2017, at 12:41, Dave Unger 
> wrote:
I would be concerned about “dikt” being an English homophone of “dicked” 
meaning insulted or mistreated. The potential negative connotation jumped out 
at me pretty immediately.

-DaveU

From: Randy Bias [mailto:rb...@juniper.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 11:32 AM
To: Abhijit Gadgil >; 
Dave Unger >
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

I like this intention (riffing off of kubernetes), but elenktis seems like a 
mouthful.

What about “networking” or similar in Greek?

…

I’ve registered 
hikoki.io
 and 
dikt.io
 (diktyo == network in greek), just in case.

So I’m formally nominating 
“dikt.io”;
 it’s good, not great, but it’s short and sweet.


Best,


--Randy

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Juniper Networks
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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[Robert Raszuk]

Hey Nachi,

> BTW how about natto? this food seems like a network :P
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natt%C5%8D

Do you really want to discourage people from using it :)))  ?

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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[Gregory Elkinbard]

Joys of relying on google translate. Thanks for the correction.
G


On 11/30/17, 2:14 PM, "Nachi Ueno"  wrote:

I would say network in the Japanse is 網 ( ami or mou )
Nettowaku is a Japanese way of pronouncing "network".

BTW how about natto? this food seems like a network :P 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natt%C5%8D


From: Dev  on behalf of Gregory 
Elkinbard 
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:07:25 PM
To: Gasparakis, Joseph; Randy Bias; EXT - dun...@bluechiptek.com
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Network is reto in Esperanto and Nettowaku in Japanese.



From: Dev  on behalf of "Gasparakis, 
Joseph" 
Date: Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 1:20 PM
To: Randy Bias , "EXT - dun...@bluechiptek.com" 

Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

And I think I changed my mind about buying the domain… ☺

From: Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org] On Behalf Of Randy 
Bias
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:54 PM
To: EXT - dun...@bluechiptek.com 
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

I think that’s a pretty legitimate concern.

--Randy




*** Sent from mobile, pls forgive tpyoes ***

On Nov 30, 2017, at 12:41, Dave Unger 
> wrote:
I would be concerned about “dikt” being an English homophone of “dicked” 
meaning insulted or mistreated. The potential negative connotation jumped out 
at me pretty immediately.

-DaveU

From: Randy Bias [mailto:rb...@juniper.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 11:32 AM
To: Abhijit Gadgil >; 
Dave Unger >
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

I like this intention (riffing off of kubernetes), but elenktis seems like 
a mouthful.

What about “networking” or similar in Greek?

…

I’ve registered 
hikoki.io
 and 
dikt.io
 (diktyo == network in greek), just in case.

So I’m formally nominating 
“dikt.io”;
 it’s good, not great, but it’s short and sweet.


Best,


--Randy

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Juniper Networks
+1 (415) 787-2253 [Google Voice]
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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[Gregory Elkinbard]

Network is reto in Esperanto and Nettowaku in Japanese.



From: Dev  on behalf of "Gasparakis, 
Joseph" 
Date: Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 1:20 PM
To: Randy Bias , "EXT - dun...@bluechiptek.com" 

Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

And I think I changed my mind about buying the domain… ☺

From: Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org] On Behalf Of Randy Bias
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:54 PM
To: EXT - dun...@bluechiptek.com 
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

I think that’s a pretty legitimate concern.

--Randy




*** Sent from mobile, pls forgive tpyoes ***

On Nov 30, 2017, at 12:41, Dave Unger 
> wrote:
I would be concerned about “dikt” being an English homophone of “dicked” 
meaning insulted or mistreated. The potential negative connotation jumped out 
at me pretty immediately.

-DaveU

From: Randy Bias [mailto:rb...@juniper.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 11:32 AM
To: Abhijit Gadgil >; 
Dave Unger >
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

I like this intention (riffing off of kubernetes), but elenktis seems like a 
mouthful.

What about “networking” or similar in Greek?

…

I’ve registered 
hikoki.io
 and 
dikt.io
 (diktyo == network in greek), just in case.

So I’m formally nominating 
“dikt.io”;
 it’s good, not great, but it’s short and sweet.


Best,


--Randy

Vice President, Technology & Strategy, Cloud Software
Juniper Networks
+1 (415) 787-2253 [Google Voice]
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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[David bass]

I was thinking “Conductor”, but that may already be taken. Maybe do it in a 
different language?

> On Nov 30, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Gasparakis, Joseph  
> wrote:
> 
> And I think I changed my mind about buying the domain… J
>  
> From: Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org] On Behalf Of Randy Bias
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:54 PM
> To: EXT - dun...@bluechiptek.com 
> Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
> Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
>  
> I think that’s a pretty legitimate concern. 
> 
> 
> --Randy
> 
>  
>  
> *** Sent from mobile, pls forgive tpyoes ***
> 
> On Nov 30, 2017, at 12:41, Dave Unger  wrote:
> 
> I would be concerned about “dikt” being an English homophone of “dicked” 
> meaning insulted or mistreated. The potential negative connotation jumped out 
> at me pretty immediately.
>  
> -DaveU
>  
> From: Randy Bias [mailto:rb...@juniper.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 11:32 AM
> To: Abhijit Gadgil ; Dave Unger 
> 
> Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
> Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
>  
> I like this intention (riffing off of kubernetes), but elenktis seems like a 
> mouthful.
>  
> What about “networking” or similar in Greek?
>  
> …
>  
> I’ve registered hikoki.io and dikt.io (diktyo == network in greek), just in 
> case.
>  
> So I’m formally nominating “dikt.io”; it’s good, not great, but it’s short 
> and sweet.
>  
>  
> Best,
>  
>  
> --Randy 
>  
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> Juniper Networks
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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[Gasparakis, Joseph]

And I think I changed my mind about buying the domain… ☺

From: Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org] On Behalf Of Randy Bias
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:54 PM
To: EXT - dun...@bluechiptek.com 
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

I think that’s a pretty legitimate concern.

--Randy



*** Sent from mobile, pls forgive tpyoes ***

On Nov 30, 2017, at 12:41, Dave Unger 
> wrote:
I would be concerned about “dikt” being an English homophone of “dicked” 
meaning insulted or mistreated. The potential negative connotation jumped out 
at me pretty immediately.

-DaveU

From: Randy Bias [mailto:rb...@juniper.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 11:32 AM
To: Abhijit Gadgil >; 
Dave Unger >
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

I like this intention (riffing off of kubernetes), but elenktis seems like a 
mouthful.

What about “networking” or similar in Greek?

…

I’ve registered hikoki.io and dikt.io (diktyo 
== network in greek), just in case.

So I’m formally nominating “dikt.io”; it’s good, not great, but 
it’s short and sweet.


Best,


--Randy

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Juniper Networks
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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[Dave Unger]

I would be concerned about “dikt” being an English homophone of “dicked” 
meaning insulted or mistreated. The potential negative connotation jumped out 
at me pretty immediately.

-DaveU

From: Randy Bias [mailto:rb...@juniper.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 11:32 AM
To: Abhijit Gadgil ; Dave Unger 
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

I like this intention (riffing off of kubernetes), but elenktis seems like a 
mouthful.

What about “networking” or similar in Greek?

…

I’ve registered hikoki.io and dikt.io (diktyo == network in greek), just in 
case.

So I’m formally nominating “dikt.io”; it’s good, not great, but it’s short and 
sweet.


Best,


--Randy

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Juniper Networks
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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[Edward Ting]

+1

Edward

From: Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org] On Behalf Of Gasparakis, 
Joseph
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 11:46 AM
To: Randy Bias; Abhijit Gadgil; EXT - dun...@bluechiptek.com
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Hi all,

I am a Greek native speaker, sorry I was quiet, other than Greek native speaker 
I’ve also been sick so had narrow bandwidth ☹

From Greek native speaker’s perspective the name dikt.io couldn’t be a better 
choice ☺ It incorporates playfully Diktyo (=Network as Randy mentioned) and 
I/O… So I am all for it. Not totally sure however how it resonates with 
non-native Greek speakers which I am guessing will be the majority of the 
users/contributors ☺

Regards,

Joseph

PS: If we don’t go for dikt.io I am now seriously considering buying the 
domain! ☺

From: Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org] On Behalf Of Randy Bias
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 11:32 AM
To: Abhijit Gadgil >; EXT 
- dun...@bluechiptek.com 
>
Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

I like this intention (riffing off of kubernetes), but elenktis seems like a 
mouthful.

What about “networking” or similar in Greek?

…

I’ve registered hikoki.io and dikt.io (diktyo == network in greek), just in 
case.

So I’m formally nominating “dikt.io”; it’s good, not great, but it’s short and 
sweet.


Best,


--Randy

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Juniper Networks
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From: Dev 
> 
on behalf of Abhijit Gadgil 
>
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 9:03 AM
To: "EXT - dun...@bluechiptek.com" 
>
Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

elenktis (any native greek speakers here?) Greek word for "Controller" - 
following inspiration from kubernetes -
Does not suffer from 'OpenFoo names'.
-abhijit

On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Dave Unger 
> wrote:

I suggest "sdnctrl". If I was a sysadmin Googling for an alternate SDN control 
plane, that's pretty close to where I would start. And I've always assumed 
contrail was chosen partially because it sounds similar to control.



-DaveU


From: Dev 
[dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org] 
on behalf of Gregory Elkinbard 
[gelkinb...@juniper.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 12:19 PM
To: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
Hey folks,
As you get your creative hats on, please remember that the name will serve to 
advertise our community and attract new users. Ideally, we would want to evoke 
what we do in the name, such as network and security.

Thanks
Greg


From: Dev 
> 
on behalf of Gregory Elkinbard 
>
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:03 PM
To: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
>
Subject: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Dear Community Members.
Linux Foundation is unable to accept OpenContrail as a trademark to the project 
as Juniper has Contrail product line.
We need to select a different name. Legal team has offered OpenVTrail. But I am 
hoping that folks can come up with something cooler.

Please send in your name proposals, by Dec 4th and lets discuss it during the 
summit.
Requirements for the name. Full name must be unique and not currently 
trademarked.
If the name is a composite, no part of the composite can be trademarked by 
another entity.

Linux foundation can temporarily accept us under the OpenContrail name, but 
will require a new name after a short transition period.

Thanks
Greg



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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[Abhijit Gadgil]

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 1:01 AM, Randy Bias  wrote:

> I like this intention (riffing off of kubernetes), but elenktis seems like
> a mouthful.
>

So is kubernetes may be e6s? :-)


>
>
> What about “networking” or similar in Greek?
>
>
>
> …
>
>
>
> I’ve registered hikoki.io and dikt.io (diktyo == network in greek), just
> in case.
>
>
>
> So I’m formally nominating “dikt.io”; it’s good, not great, but it’s
> short and sweet.
>

+1 .


>
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
>
>
> --Randy
>
>
>
> Vice President, Technology & Strategy, Cloud Software
>
> Juniper Networks
>
> +1 (415) 787-2253 [Google Voice]
>
> ASSISTANT: Stephanie Concepcion, sconcepc...@juniper.net
>
> TWITTER: @randybias
>
> LINKEDIN: linkedin.com/in/randybias
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Dev  on behalf of Abhijit
> Gadgil 
> *Date: *Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 9:03 AM
> *To: *"EXT - dun...@bluechiptek.com" 
> *Cc: *"dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
>
> *Subject: *Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
>
>
>
> elenktis (any native greek speakers here?) Greek word for "Controller" -
> following inspiration from kubernetes -
>
> Does not suffer from 'OpenFoo names'.
>
> -abhijit
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Dave Unger 
> wrote:
>
> I suggest "sdnctrl". If I was a sysadmin Googling for an alternate SDN
> control plane, that's pretty close to where I would start. And I've always
> assumed contrail was chosen partially because it sounds similar to control.
>
>
>
> -DaveU
> --
>
> *From:* Dev [dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org] on behalf of Gregory
> Elkinbard [gelkinb...@juniper.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 28, 2017 12:19 PM
> *To:* dev@lists.opencontrail.org
> *Subject:* Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
>
> Hey folks,
>
> As you get your creative hats on, please remember that the name will serve
> to advertise our community and attract new users. Ideally, we would want to
> evoke what we do in the name, such as network and security.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Greg
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Dev  on behalf of Gregory
> Elkinbard 
> *Date: *Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:03 PM
> *To: *"dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
> *Subject: *[opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
>
>
>
> Dear Community Members.
>
> Linux Foundation is unable to accept OpenContrail as a trademark to the
> project as Juniper has Contrail product line.
>
> We need to select a different name. Legal team has offered OpenVTrail. But
> I am hoping that folks can come up with something cooler.
>
>
>
> Please send in your name proposals, by Dec 4th and lets discuss it during
> the summit.
>
> Requirements for the name. Full name must be unique and not currently
> trademarked.
>
> If the name is a composite, no part of the composite can be trademarked by
> another entity.
>
>
>
> Linux foundation can temporarily accept us under the OpenContrail name,
> but will require a new name after a short transition period.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Greg
>
>
>
>
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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[Gasparakis, Joseph]

Hi all,

I am a Greek native speaker, sorry I was quiet, other than Greek native speaker 
I’ve also been sick so had narrow bandwidth ☹

From Greek native speaker’s perspective the name dikt.io couldn’t be a better 
choice ☺ It incorporates playfully Diktyo (=Network as Randy mentioned) and 
I/O… So I am all for it. Not totally sure however how it resonates with 
non-native Greek speakers which I am guessing will be the majority of the 
users/contributors ☺

Regards,

Joseph

PS: If we don’t go for dikt.io I am now seriously considering buying the 
domain! ☺

From: Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org] On Behalf Of Randy Bias
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 11:32 AM
To: Abhijit Gadgil ; EXT - dun...@bluechiptek.com 

Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

I like this intention (riffing off of kubernetes), but elenktis seems like a 
mouthful.

What about “networking” or similar in Greek?

…

I’ve registered hikoki.io and dikt.io (diktyo == network in greek), just in 
case.

So I’m formally nominating “dikt.io”; it’s good, not great, but it’s short and 
sweet.


Best,


--Randy

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From: Dev 
> 
on behalf of Abhijit Gadgil 
>
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 9:03 AM
To: "EXT - dun...@bluechiptek.com" 
>
Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

elenktis (any native greek speakers here?) Greek word for "Controller" - 
following inspiration from kubernetes -
Does not suffer from 'OpenFoo names'.
-abhijit

On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Dave Unger 
> wrote:

I suggest "sdnctrl". If I was a sysadmin Googling for an alternate SDN control 
plane, that's pretty close to where I would start. And I've always assumed 
contrail was chosen partially because it sounds similar to control.



-DaveU


From: Dev 
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on behalf of Gregory Elkinbard 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 12:19 PM
To: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
Hey folks,
As you get your creative hats on, please remember that the name will serve to 
advertise our community and attract new users. Ideally, we would want to evoke 
what we do in the name, such as network and security.

Thanks
Greg


From: Dev 
> 
on behalf of Gregory Elkinbard 
>
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:03 PM
To: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
>
Subject: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Dear Community Members.
Linux Foundation is unable to accept OpenContrail as a trademark to the project 
as Juniper has Contrail product line.
We need to select a different name. Legal team has offered OpenVTrail. But I am 
hoping that folks can come up with something cooler.

Please send in your name proposals, by Dec 4th and lets discuss it during the 
summit.
Requirements for the name. Full name must be unique and not currently 
trademarked.
If the name is a composite, no part of the composite can be trademarked by 
another entity.

Linux foundation can temporarily accept us under the OpenContrail name, but 
will require a new name after a short transition period.

Thanks
Greg



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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

[Randy Bias]

I don’t think it is necessarily a requirement that it be trademarked.  Mostly 
we need it fairly unique.



--Randy

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From: Dev  on behalf of Buddy Yaussy 

Date: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 1:35 PM
To: Gregory Elkinbard 
Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Don’t know if it would be able to be trademarked, without some kind of 
variation on the name, but I like:

Constable

As relating to directing traffic, etc.

Buddy Yaussy
Principal Member Technical Staff
AT Foundry

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On Nov 28, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Gregory Elkinbard 
> wrote:
Dear Community Members.
Linux Foundation is unable to accept OpenContrail as a trademark to the project 
as Juniper has Contrail product line.
We need to select a different name. Legal team has offered OpenVTrail. But I am 
hoping that folks can come up with something cooler.

Please send in your name proposals, by Dec 4th and lets discuss it during the 
summit.
Requirements for the name. Full name must be unique and not currently 
trademarked.
If the name is a composite, no part of the composite can be trademarked by 
another entity.

Linux foundation can temporarily accept us under the OpenContrail name, but 
will require a new name after a short transition period.

Thanks
Greg

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Re: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

[CARVER, PAUL]

No, sorry. It’s just a regular “HD” camera I bought a couple years ago. If 
anyone does have a 4K camera they want to bring, I’ll defer to them. Or, an 
option would be to do both Zoom video and a YouTube (or other) livestream with 
one camera positioned right up close to capture only the whiteboard and another 
camera for a wider shot of the room. Remote participants would be able to 
choose between watching one or both depending on how much monitor 
size/resolution and bandwidth they have available.

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From: Gregory Elkinbard [mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 22:30
To: CARVER, PAUL ; Aniket Daptari ; 
Sukhdev Kapur 
Cc: Edward Ting ; Gasparakis, Joseph 
; Yang, Yi Y ; 
dev@lists.opencontrail.org; Rudra Rugge 
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

Zoom will record video.
Recording is auto set for both sessions. Any chance the camera is 4k so that we 
can read the white board in video?

G


From: "CARVER, PAUL" >
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 6:55 AM
To: Gregory Elkinbard >, 
Aniket Daptari >, 
Sukhdev Kapur >
Cc: Edward Ting >, "Gasparakis, 
Joseph" >, 
"Yang, Yi Y" >, 
"dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
>, Rudra Rugge 
>
Subject: RE: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

I’m planning to bring along the USB video camera that I brought to the St Louis 
Contrail summit and share that via Zoom so that remote participants will have 
some view of the on-site room, but I don’t know if Zoom will record it. If 
somebody wanted to, they could do something like a YouTube live stream on their 
phone but I’m not sure how much value that would have. Given our lack of 
budget, don’t expect a professional conference video recording setup.

--
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From: Gregory Elkinbard [mailto:gelkinb...@juniper.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 02:24
To: Aniket Daptari 
>; Sukhdev Kapur 
>
Cc: CARVER, PAUL >; Edward Ting 
>; Gasparakis, Joseph 
>; Yang, Yi Y 
>; 
dev@lists.opencontrail.org; Rudra Rugge 
>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

Not quite.
Zoom will record presentations and audio. But I do not think we opted for a 
full video set up.
Greg


From: > on behalf of Aniket 
Daptari >
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 10:05 PM
To: Sukhdev Kapur >
Cc: "CARVER, PAUL" >, Edward Ting 
>, "Gasparakis, Joseph" 
>, "Yang, Yi Y" 
>, Gregory Elkinbard 
>, 
"dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
>, Rudra Rugge 
>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

Hi Greg,

Do we plan to video record these sessions?

Thanks,
Aniket


On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Sukhdev Kapur 
> wrote:
+1
Thank you, Paul

-Sukhdev


From: "CARVER, PAUL" >
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 6:12 AM
To: Edward Ting >, "Gasparakis, 
Joseph" >, 
Sukhdev Kapur >, "Yang, Yi Y"