Forcing OpenContrail to give up identity that got us here since last five years 
is not right. 
It is also being ungrateful to creativity. 

I never understood the insistence to be part of LF. 


Regards
-Harshad


> On Nov 30, 2017, at 6:15 PM, Gregory Elkinbard <gelkinb...@juniper.net> wrote:
> 
> I will ask the LF folks,
> But please note that RedHat does not actually own, or tried to own Linux as a 
> trademark.
> RedHat site seems to claims that Enterprise Linux is a registered trademark 
> it is actually not.
>  
> Enterprise Linux was filed and abandoned in 2008 by some magazine, RedHat 
> filed Enterprise Linux Advanced Platform which also
> was abandoned in 2008 and trademark was never granted according to US
>  
> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4809:yjpkzi.2.3
> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4809:yjpkzi.2.1
>  
> So RedHat is using Linux in the product name without owning the trademark.
> They also should not have a registration mark against Enterprise Linux on 
> their site as It is not a USA registered trademark.
>  
> We do need to retain Contrail as trademark not just use it in the product 
> name.
>  
> Both internal lawyers and LF lawyers had a fit. Trust me I did not give up 
> this fight easily.
>  
> Greg
>  
>  
>  
> From: Dev <dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org> on behalf of Sachin Bansal 
> <sban...@juniper.net>
> Date: Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 5:38 PM
> To: Harshad Nakil <hna...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" <dev@lists.opencontrail.org>
> Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
>  
> +1
>  
> I also see double standards here. They have no problem with Redhat selling a 
> product with ‘Linux’ in its name.
>  
> Sachin
>  
> On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:21 PM, Harshad Nakil <hna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> +1
>  
> On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:18 PM, Ashish Ranjan <aran...@live.com> wrote:
>  
> I would rather go to Apache foundation or somewhere else if Linux foundation 
> has issues with ‘contrail’. There is no way we should try to rename this and 
> create confusion (and dilute brand).
>  
> I am not an expert but I see there are many open source projects (like 
> Docker, Kafka) with commercial version.
>  
> Ashish
>  
> From: Dev <dev-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org> on behalf of Nachi Ueno 
> <nu...@juniper.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 3:43:51 PM
> To: Randy Bias; Robert Raszuk
> Cc: dev@lists.opencontrail.org
> Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
>  
> then how about OpenSurströmming? ( I'm just kidding :) )
> 
> BTW, "Contrail" is "hikoki-gumo" or "kousekiun" in Japanese.
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: Randy Bias
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:58:59 PM
> To: Robert Raszuk
> Cc: Gregory Elkinbard; Nachi Ueno; Gasparakis, Joseph; EXT - 
> dun...@bluechiptek.com; dev@lists.opencontrail.org
> Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
> 
> Yeah. Not a big fan of natto. Even with an egg on it.
> 
> 
> --Randy
> 
> 
> *** Sent from mobile, pls forgive tpyoes ***
> 
> On Nov 30, 2017, at 14:21, Robert Raszuk 
> <rob...@raszuk.net<mailto:rob...@raszuk.net>> wrote:
> 
> Hey Nachi,
> 
> > BTW how about natto? this food seems like a network :P 
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natt%C5%8D<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Natt-25C5-258D&d=DwMFaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=cvig2YGjcAqtN3D01QkDbCz-8RUttsFy-iNDV0QCxFA&m=5ZFGzZiZpKyzy_icDopyHBbyzQDA2u-m2oBuxWkoG8c&s=8-Dos0M5o_oo5UMvxqLKv-KsR58HWjf4E2bflfcEj4M&e=>
> 
> Do you really want to discourage people from using it :)))  ?
> 
> Cheers,
> R,
> 
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