Re: Successful 1st Build!
On 06.02.2014 20:37, Tenzin Chhosphel wrote: Hi all, I had previously introduced myself and subscribed to the dev list with another email. But, I'll be using this e-mail: chhos...@gmail.com from now on so I am reintroducing myself shortly. I am Tenzin Chhosphel from New York City. I am currently a computer science major at City College - CUNY, a rising senior. I have hands-on experience on multiple languages: C, Objective-C, Java, etc. but I primarily code in C++. I have successfully built OpenOffice on Ubuntu 12.04 Great. Did you experience any problems that should be handled in the building guide? and ready for coding, debugging, and woking. So what projects can I contribute, where can I get started? OpenOffice has a wide range of features that include areas like graphics, text processing, numerical computations, database etc. If you tell us a little about your interests and goals then we can probably find something for you to work on. -Andre Thanks, Tenzin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Solaris GCC or Sun Studio?
Hello, As far it regards Solaris,I have noticed that the building scripts of OpenOffice assume that one is building with Sun Studio. This compiler is a bit outdated and of course GCC is available for most platforms. Since LibreOffice has removed support for Sun Studio, I guess it would be a goof idea to remove support for Sun Studio. It adds complexity without reason. For example, I tried to compile a module and it failed just because it assumed that I was using Sun Studio. Kind regards, A.S. -- Apostols Syropoulos Xanthi, Greece
Re: Solaris GCC or Sun Studio?
Hi Απόστολος, As far it regards Solaris,I have noticed that the building scripts of OpenOffice assume that one is building with Sun Studio. This compiler is a bit outdated and of course GCC is available for most platforms. Since LibreOffice has removed support for Sun Studio, I guess it would be a goof idea to remove support for Sun Studio. It adds complexity without reason. For example, I tried to compile a module and it failed just because it assumed that I was using Sun Studio. Some people are still using SunStudio for building OpenOffice. Please see the thread http://markmail.org/thread/5gnsk7hmehxfdthx for more details and the problems that result from this platform, but we shouldn't remove it yet. Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Solaris GCC or Sun Studio?
On 07.02.2014 11:32, Απόστολος Συρόπουλος wrote: Hello, As far it regards Solaris,I have noticed that the building scripts of OpenOffice assume that one is building with Sun Studio. This compiler is a bit outdated and of course GCC is available for most platforms. Since LibreOffice has removed support for Sun Studio, I guess it would be a goof idea to remove support for Sun Studio. It adds complexity without reason. For example, I tried to compile a module and it failed just because it assumed that I was using Sun Studio. Today that would be Oracle Solaris Studio, current version seems to be 12.3. There is no buildbot for the Solaris version of OpenOffice and it is not tested. So, in a sense, we have already dropped support for Solaris :-) But there are others on this list that are currently doing a Solaris build. Anybody still using Sun|Oracle Studio? By the way, is clang also available on Solaris? -Andre Kind regards, A.S. -- Apostols Syropoulos Xanthi, Greece - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
Hallo, arbeite jahrelang einigermaßen zufrieden mit Oo. Bin nun wegen crash mit neuem Computer auf Windows 8.1 umgestiegen. Habe ständig Abstürze in Oo Tabellenkalkulation beim einfügen oder löschen einer ganzen Zeile. Macht kein Spaß, da sehr zeitaufwändig. Bitte einen Rat. Norbert Friedrich -- Schreinerei Friedrich GmbHCo.KG Rhein-Taunus-Str. 22 56357 Geisig Tel.: 06776-9200 Fax: 06776-9235 Amtsgericht Montabaur: HRA 2681
Re: Successful 1st Build!
Hi Andre, I had no problems building OpenOffice, it was flawless. It just took several hours (like over 10) just like it says in the building guide page. I am also a math minor and fond of numbers, so I prefer any work related to numeral computation. But, if not, other areas sound interesting too. My goal is to gain some experience working in a huge real world project like OpenOffice as well as contribute to the open source world. I am planning to work on OpenOffice at least for the remaining of my college career, which is over a year. So something that I can work for a long time will be nice. Tenzin On Feb 7, 2014, at 4:32 AM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: On 06.02.2014 20:37, Tenzin Chhosphel wrote: Hi all, I had previously introduced myself and subscribed to the dev list with another email. But, I'll be using this e-mail: chhos...@gmail.com from now on so I am reintroducing myself shortly. I am Tenzin Chhosphel from New York City. I am currently a computer science major at City College - CUNY, a rising senior. I have hands-on experience on multiple languages: C, Objective-C, Java, etc. but I primarily code in C++. I have successfully built OpenOffice on Ubuntu 12.04 Great. Did you experience any problems that should be handled in the building guide? and ready for coding, debugging, and woking. So what projects can I contribute, where can I get started? OpenOffice has a wide range of features that include areas like graphics, text processing, numerical computations, database etc. If you tell us a little about your interests and goals then we can probably find something for you to work on. -Andre Thanks, Tenzin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
Good afternoon, For some reason every time I try to open ‘Open Office’ I get the following message come up:- the last time you opened Open Office, it unexpectedly quit while reopening windows. Do you want to open its windows again? if you choose not to reopen windows, you may have to open and position the windows yourself. Don’t ReopenReopen Try as I might I cannot get rid of this message. I run a Mac with OS X Version 10.9.1 Any suggestions please?? Regards Brian Moore bwmoore4173...@btinternet.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17t=67172hilit=unexpectedly+quit+while+reopening - Mail original - De: Brian Moore bwmoore4173...@btinternet.com À: dev@openoffice.apache.org Envoyé: Vendredi 7 Février 2014 17:19:29 Objet: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website Good afternoon, For some reason every time I try to open ‘Open Office’ I get the following message come up:- the last time you opened Open Office, it unexpectedly quit while reopening windows. Do you want to open its windows again? if you choose not to reopen windows, you may have to open and position the windows yourself. Don’t ReopenReopen Try as I might I cannot get rid of this message. I run a Mac with OS X Version 10.9.1 Any suggestions please?? Regards Brian Moore bwmoore4173...@btinternet.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Successful 1st Build!
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Tenzin Chhosphel chhos...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andre, I had no problems building OpenOffice, it was flawless. It just took several hours (like over 10) just like it says in the building guide page. I am also a math minor and fond of numbers, so I prefer any work related to numeral computation. But, if not, other areas sound interesting too. My goal is to gain some experience working in a huge real world project like OpenOffice as well as contribute to the open source world. I am planning to work on OpenOffice at least for the remaining of my college career, which is over a year. So something that I can work for a long time will be nice. Hi Tenzin, This sounds great! OpenOffice is a big code base, so you'll probably want to start simple. We do have some items in our Bugzilla tracker that are marked as easy hacks : https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?f1=cf_fix_difficultylist_id=122701o1=equalsquery_format=advancedresolution=---v1=easy These are good to start on. There are also ones slightly more challenging, simple hacks: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?f1=cf_fix_difficultylist_id=122702o1=equalsquery_format=advancedresolution=---v1=simple A different approach is to jump right in on our 4.1 bug list, see if you can debug a crash, e.g.: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123501 It shouldn't be too hard to reproduce that in a debugger and get a stack for the crash. On the numeric side, you can look at spreadsheet formula related issues by searching in Bugzilla. There are also some recent issues related to our CoinMP integration, which we use for linear programming optimization: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124115 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124158 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124157 Pedro knows that area well and might be able to give you some hints. Longer term I'd love to see more of the CoinMP routines integrated. I think a non-linear solver would be a big hit. Regards, -Rob Tenzin On Feb 7, 2014, at 4:32 AM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: On 06.02.2014 20:37, Tenzin Chhosphel wrote: Hi all, I had previously introduced myself and subscribed to the dev list with another email. But, I'll be using this e-mail: chhos...@gmail.com from now on so I am reintroducing myself shortly. I am Tenzin Chhosphel from New York City. I am currently a computer science major at City College - CUNY, a rising senior. I have hands-on experience on multiple languages: C, Objective-C, Java, etc. but I primarily code in C++. I have successfully built OpenOffice on Ubuntu 12.04 Great. Did you experience any problems that should be handled in the building guide? and ready for coding, debugging, and woking. So what projects can I contribute, where can I get started? OpenOffice has a wide range of features that include areas like graphics, text processing, numerical computations, database etc. If you tell us a little about your interests and goals then we can probably find something for you to work on. -Andre Thanks, Tenzin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
So-called Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
Is anyone else noticing that almost no one uses the link to report website issues to actually report website issues? I wonder whether we're making it harder for ourselves by having this link? I don't mind getting support questions to the dev list, but the non-informative subject lines we get is unhelpful. Maybe send web site issue reports to Bugzilla instead? -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: So-called Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
On 7 February 2014 18:08, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Is anyone else noticing that almost no one uses the link to report website issues to actually report website issues? I wonder whether we're making it harder for ourselves by having this link? I don't mind getting support questions to the dev list, but the non-informative subject lines we get is unhelpful. Maybe send web site issue reports to Bugzilla instead? +1 rgds jan I. -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Getting started with development
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Pranet Verma pranetve...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Could you please tell me how to get started with Open Office development? I began by following this guide : https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Development , but after building the source and installing the program when I reached the first tutorial ( https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Tutorial_Start ) it failed(I'm pretty sure i followed all the steps but ctrl+T just doesnt work like its supposed to) . The page does seem to be outdated to me (considering some folder name and syntax of files do not match with the guide, though i may be wrong), I was wondering if there was a better source to learn from. I'm reasonably comfortable with c/c++ , and am pretty active in competitive programming, but developments new for me , so any help is appreciated. Also, if possible could you direct me to modules using c/c++ specifically? Im open to learning new languages, but to start with I would prefer working in a familiar environment. Hi Pranet, Welcome to the Apache OpenOffice project! I'd recommend taking a look at our New Volunteer orientation pages for some useful background on the project and how it works: http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/ The page on getting started with development is the key one: http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html That will get you started on downloading the source code and doing your first build of OpenOffice. Getting a build running on Linux is pretty easy. Windows takes a bit more effort to set up the pre-reqs. (I've never done a Mac build, but I hear it is easy as well). Either way, give it a try and post further messages if you get stuck. Regards, -Rob Thank You - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: So-called Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Is anyone else noticing that almost no one uses the link to report website issues to actually report website issues? I wonder whether we're making it harder for ourselves by having this link? I don't mind getting support questions to the dev list, but the non-informative subject lines we get is unhelpful. Maybe send web site issue reports to Bugzilla instead? I've never actually seen this link...just seen the results of it here. I assume it leads to a form? Maybe there should be a button/link above the form that says, If this is a problem with OpenOffice rather than this website, click here. Something that takes them to a different form where they put in OS, system memory, and (for all those my copy has bloatware! complaints) where they got OO from. Don
Re: So-called Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
Rob Weir wrote: Is anyone else noticing that almost no one uses the link to report website issues to actually report website issues? We get a mix of correct submissions (i.e., website stuff) and ultra-FAQs (restore windows). I guess this is due to the fact that ultra-FAQs are so frequent that even if 10 out of 10 first-page search result for openoffice restore windows do indeed describe how to fix the problem, there is still someone left who will try to contact us instead of simply solving the problem, and in doing so he will find the dev mailing list link post here. Maybe we can add a link just above the Reporting a problem link saying that they should read the Release Notes and check if the problem is known? But the page is already full of good links for this... Maybe send web site issue reports to Bugzilla instead? I'm not sure this will work. We also got several minor broken link reports that we wouldn't have received if the person had to create a Bugzilla account to this purpose. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: So-called Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Is anyone else noticing that almost no one uses the link to report website issues to actually report website issues? I wonder whether we're making it harder for ourselves by having this link? I don't mind getting support questions to the dev list, but the non-informative subject lines we get is unhelpful. Maybe send web site issue reports to Bugzilla instead? I've never actually seen this link...just seen the results of it here. I assume it leads to a form? In the footer of every www.openoffice.org page there is a contact us link. That loads this page: http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html Notice that user, unless they are standing on their heads and reading from the bottom of the page up, must ignore the advice for support questions, ignore the advice for reporting bugs, ignore the note that says that the following instructions are *not* for user support, and then click the link that clearly says it is for reporting website issues. I'm at a loss at how it happens that users reach that point. -Rob maybe they're picking up the first thing they see that says mailing list How about if we change -- If you are a user and need technical support... to If you are a user and need help with Apache OpenOffice... and change -- The fastest way to get expert help with OpenOffice is to post a question in our support forum http://forum.openoffice.org/. Other support mechanisms, including FAQs, a users mailing list, commercial support, etc., are described on our Support Page http://www.openoffice.org/support. to -- The fastest way to get expert help with OpenOffice is to post a question in our support forum http://forum.openoffice.org/. Or contact the users mailing list us...@openoffice.apache.org. (we need some kind of subject here) Other support mechanisms, including FAQs, commercial support, etc., are described on our Support Page http://www.openoffice.org/support. I think BZ is too complicated for a lot of the questions we seem to be getting through this link. Maybe there should be a button/link above the form that says, If this is a problem with OpenOffice rather than this website, click here. Something that takes them to a different form where they put in OS, system memory, and (for all those my copy has bloatware! complaints) where they got OO from. Don - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK Cats do not have to be shown how to have a good time, for they are unfailing ingenious in that respect. -- James Mason
Re: So-called Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Is anyone else noticing that almost no one uses the link to report website issues to actually report website issues? I wonder whether we're making it harder for ourselves by having this link? I don't mind getting support questions to the dev list, but the non-informative subject lines we get is unhelpful. Maybe send web site issue reports to Bugzilla instead? I've never actually seen this link...just seen the results of it here. I assume it leads to a form? In the footer of every www.openoffice.org page there is a contact us link. That loads this page: http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html Notice that user, unless they are standing on their heads and reading from the bottom of the page up, must ignore the advice for support questions, ignore the advice for reporting bugs, ignore the note that says that the following instructions are *not* for user support, and then click the link that clearly says it is for reporting website issues. I'm at a loss at how it happens that users reach that point. -Rob Yeah...I'd been assuming it was just too easy an option, but looking at that page...I got nuthin'. Unless you want to take the Douglas Adams approach...put the link on a local copy of the webpage stored on a laptop in a filing cabinet in the basement with a Beware of the Leopard sign. But that doesn't really stimulate community... Don
Re: Successful 1st Build!
El 07/02/2014 12:00, Rob Weir escribió: On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Tenzin Chhosphel chhos...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andre, I had no problems building OpenOffice, it was flawless. It just took several hours (like over 10) just like it says in the building guide page. I am also a math minor and fond of numbers, so I prefer any work related to numeral computation. But, if not, other areas sound interesting too. My goal is to gain some experience working in a huge real world project like OpenOffice as well as contribute to the open source world. I am planning to work on OpenOffice at least for the remaining of my college career, which is over a year. So something that I can work for a long time will be nice. Hi Tenzin, This sounds great! OpenOffice is a big code base, so you'll probably want to start simple. We do have some items in our Bugzilla tracker that are marked as easy hacks : https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?f1=cf_fix_difficultylist_id=122701o1=equalsquery_format=advancedresolution=---v1=easy These are good to start on. There are also ones slightly more challenging, simple hacks: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?f1=cf_fix_difficultylist_id=122702o1=equalsquery_format=advancedresolution=---v1=simple A different approach is to jump right in on our 4.1 bug list, see if you can debug a crash, e.g.: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123501 It shouldn't be too hard to reproduce that in a debugger and get a stack for the crash. On the numeric side, you can look at spreadsheet formula related issues by searching in Bugzilla. There are also some recent issues related to our CoinMP integration, which we use for linear programming optimization: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124115 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124158 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124157 Pedro knows that area well and might be able to give you some hints. Ah well ... Without going into the details on how I lost interest in the base OO Calc, I will share this. 1) In general OpenOffice Calc does some generally naive math. The code is mostly taken from textbooks and has been almost heroically enhanced to produce acceptable results. 2) In order to improve Calc you could use some external libraries but most of them require Fortran which would make the build requirements even more complicated than they are. Many things could be done with Boost (which is already in there) but there is a huge resistance to change things that already seem to work as they are. 3) There are some Openformula[1] functions that AOO hasn't implemented. Adding those is usually has less resistance in the project than fixing the stuff we have. It is also easier as you can learn from the code that is already in Calc. 4) A, perhaps easier, way to contribute is to work on Calc Extensions. There are no limits on the compiler/libraries you can use there. I am personally considering using Apple's GCD for some things and that is something that can't be included in AOO's base because it is not supported on linux or windows. There are some ideas on the Wiki[2]. If you want some interesting challenges, the type that you don't find in textbooks, try this: 1.1 Function to return the roots of the *quadric* equation. .. 1.7 Newton Raphson *complex number* solver. Those should be fun as you would have to use complex math for both ;). Cheers, Pedro. [1] http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/OpenDocument-v1.2-part2.html [2] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions/Ideas/Calc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
Forwarding the link to Brian, who is not subscribed. Andrea FR web forum wrote: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17t=67172hilit=unexpectedly+quit+while+reopening - Mail original - De: Brian Moore bwmoore4173...@btinternet.com À: dev@openoffice.apache.org Envoyé: Vendredi 7 Février 2014 17:19:29 Objet: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website Good afternoon, For some reason every time I try to open ‘Open Office’ I get the following message come up:- the last time you opened Open Office, it unexpectedly quit while reopening windows. Do you want to open its windows again? if you choose not to reopen windows, you may have to open and position the windows yourself. Don’t ReopenReopen Try as I might I cannot get rid of this message. I run a Mac with OS X Version 10.9.1 Any suggestions please?? Regards Brian Moore bwmoore4173...@btinternet.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Mwiki] a massive spam attack. Again
Am 02/07/2014 12:45 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 6:21 PM, jan ij...@apache.org wrote: On 6 February 2014 23:42, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org wrote: jan i wrote: I warned about exactly that, but I was asked (see JIRAs) to remove the cats (captcha). If you read the JIRA (which was watched be several in here) you will see my warning. The idea was to replace the CAPTCHA with something better, otherwise we can (should) keep the current CAPTCHA and discuss a better solution in the meantime. The cats cause incompatibilities and other issues, but if they are much more effective than the replacement let's go back to the cats as soon as possible and in the see what's best to replace them (but something MORE effective, not LESS effective!). May I politely correct you, the idea was NOT to replace the cats. The jira was implemented by the word ! The exact wording is: Wiki6: Cats/Dogs CAPTCHA for new user registration is quite broken. It doesn't work in several browser configurations, it includes HTTP instead of HTTPS https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123695 - Recommended solution: drop it entirely. That statement is pretty clear, how it can be read as moving to something more effective slips my mind. later the jira contains: accessibility suggestion from Tyler (haven't tested MediaWiki compatibility): there is a website which provides text-based CAPTCHA's in the form of logic questions, math problems, etc. It provides an XML API. See http://www.textcaptcha.com/ Apart from the facts, thats its a suggestion and not a decision (like that above), we do not use extensions that are not supported by mediawiki (meaning downloadable from mediawiki.com and verified for our release). As a sidenote, that captcha is pretty much the same as the standard which are active right now. There are quite a lot of captcha´s out there, just looking at mediawiki.com extensions gives a lot of choises. At this point in time we have several choices: 1) leave the config as it is 2) reinstall cats 3) choose another captcha (in this case we need to decide which one). I am not the one to overrule a community decision (Wiki6), but I will happely implement another community decision. I hope you can simply restore cats if that can be done without too much trouble. Then we can discuss further and come to a community decision on what else to do, if anything. I hope you agree that there is zero benefit to accumulating additional spam while we discuss. Fix the immediate problem, then we can discuss longer term. This one area that Apache Infra knows how to do well. They know when it is important to act rather than discuss. I suggest that this is one of those times. Right, especially when there is already a solution that is working (mostly resp. for the most people). Thanks Jan. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: So-called Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
Am 02/07/2014 06:08 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: Is anyone else noticing that almost no one uses the link to report website issues to actually report website issues? Of course, since the beginning. ;-) I wonder whether we're making it harder for ourselves by having this link? I don't mind getting support questions to the dev list, but the non-informative subject lines we get is unhelpful. Maybe send web site issue reports to Bugzilla instead? How do you want to separate them from the usual user requests? If you think about a simple link change, then they will appear in BZ. But this won't really help. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
Am 02/07/2014 01:26 PM, schrieb Friedrich: arbeite jahrelang einigermaßen zufrieden mit Oo. Bin nun wegen crash mit neuem Computer auf Windows 8.1 umgestiegen. Habe ständig Abstürze in Oo Tabellenkalkulation beim einfügen oder löschen einer ganzen Zeile. Macht kein Spaß, da sehr zeitaufwändig. Dein geschildertes Problem scheint ein bekanntes Issue zu sein, dass in unserem Bugtracker System hier geführt wird: CRASH when Insertrow in particular way in particular document https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123166 So wie der Status jetzt ist wird das Problem in AOO 4.1.0 gefixt sein. Einen Workaround gibt es in der initial Beschreibung und in Kommentar 9 und 19. Für weitere Fragen möchte ich Dich an usere deutschsprachige Mailingliste users...@openoffice.apache.org verweisen. Marcus --- In English: Norbert has seen this issue: CRASH when Insertrow in particular way in particular document https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123166 I've pointed Norbert to the German users mailing list. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Successful 1st Build!
El 07/02/2014 14:22, Pedro Giffuni escribió: El 07/02/2014 12:00, Rob Weir escribió: On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Tenzin Chhosphel chhos...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andre, I had no problems building OpenOffice, it was flawless. It just took several hours (like over 10) just like it says in the building guide page. I am also a math minor and fond of numbers, so I prefer any work related to numeral computation. But, if not, other areas sound interesting too. My goal is to gain some experience working in a huge real world project like OpenOffice as well as contribute to the open source world. I am planning to work on OpenOffice at least for the remaining of my college career, which is over a year. So something that I can work for a long time will be nice. Hi Tenzin, This sounds great! OpenOffice is a big code base, so you'll probably want to start simple. We do have some items in our Bugzilla tracker that are marked as easy hacks : https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?f1=cf_fix_difficultylist_id=122701o1=equalsquery_format=advancedresolution=---v1=easy These are good to start on. There are also ones slightly more challenging, simple hacks: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?f1=cf_fix_difficultylist_id=122702o1=equalsquery_format=advancedresolution=---v1=simple A different approach is to jump right in on our 4.1 bug list, see if you can debug a crash, e.g.: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123501 It shouldn't be too hard to reproduce that in a debugger and get a stack for the crash. On the numeric side, you can look at spreadsheet formula related issues by searching in Bugzilla. There are also some recent issues related to our CoinMP integration, which we use for linear programming optimization: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124115 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124158 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124157 Pedro knows that area well and might be able to give you some hints. Ah well ... Without going into the details on how I lost interest in the base OO Calc, I will share this. 1) In general OpenOffice Calc does some generally naive math. The code is mostly taken from textbooks and has been almost heroically enhanced to produce acceptable results. 2) In order to improve Calc you could use some external libraries but most of them require Fortran which would make the build requirements even more complicated than they are. Many things could be done with Boost (which is already in there) but there is a huge resistance to change things that already seem to work as they are. 3) There are some Openformula[1] functions that AOO hasn't implemented. Adding those is usually has less resistance in the project than fixing the stuff we have. It is also easier as you can learn from the code that is already in Calc. 4) A, perhaps easier, way to contribute is to work on Calc Extensions. There are no limits on the compiler/libraries you can use there. I am personally considering using Apple's GCD for some things and that is something that can't be included in AOO's base because it is not supported on linux or windows. There are some ideas on the Wiki[2]. If you want some interesting challenges, the type that you don't find in textbooks, try this: 1.1 Function to return the roots of the *quadric* equation. Duh... I meant the Quartic equation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartic_function .. 1.7 Newton Raphson *complex number* solver. Those should be fun as you would have to use complex math for both ;). Cheers, Pedro. [1] http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/OpenDocument-v1.2-part2.html [2] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions/Ideas/Calc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: So-called Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Is anyone else noticing that almost no one uses the link to report website issues to actually report website issues? I wonder whether we're making it harder for ourselves by having this link? I don't mind getting support questions to the dev list, but the non-informative subject lines we get is unhelpful. Maybe send web site issue reports to Bugzilla instead? I've never actually seen this link...just seen the results of it here. I assume it leads to a form? In the footer of every www.openoffice.org page there is a contact us link. That loads this page: http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html Notice that user, unless they are standing on their heads and reading from the bottom of the page up, must ignore the advice for support questions, ignore the advice for reporting bugs, ignore the note that says that the following instructions are *not* for user support, and then click the link that clearly says it is for reporting website issues. I'm at a loss at how it happens that users reach that point. -Rob Maybe there should be a button/link above the form that says, If this is a problem with OpenOffice rather than this website, click here. Something that takes them to a different form where they put in OS, system memory, and (for all those my copy has bloatware! complaints) where they got OO from. Don - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: So-called Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
Am 02/07/2014 07:16 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Donald Whytockdwhyt...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: Is anyone else noticing that almost no one uses the link to report website issues to actually report website issues? I wonder whether we're making it harder for ourselves by having this link? I don't mind getting support questions to the dev list, but the non-informative subject lines we get is unhelpful. Maybe send web site issue reports to Bugzilla instead? I've never actually seen this link...just seen the results of it here. I assume it leads to a form? In the footer of every www.openoffice.org page there is a contact us link. That loads this page: http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html Notice that user, unless they are standing on their heads and reading from the bottom of the page up, must ignore the advice for support questions, ignore the advice for reporting bugs, ignore the note that says that the following instructions are *not* for user support, and then click the link that clearly says it is for reporting website issues. I'm at a loss at how it happens that users reach that point. OK, at the moment we trust in the users to use this link only for website issues. This is failing as we can see. What about to try the opposite way: - Remove the text and link. - Then the users will find another way (yes, I'm pretty sure they will succeed). - And from there the problem will be reported to us via dev@ - as other mails got redirected to this ML already. As the number of real website issues is much, much smaller than the number of misused mails, I believe that we can try this. So, anything against to try to go this way and see what will happen? Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
