Re: Website: decorating the scrollpanes
Am 07/12/2014 04:36 AM, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: Hi I would like to propose using a themed scrolledpane that will make the overal design more attractive. For that I use a JScrollPane() plugin from JQuery. there is no need to suggest anything to beautify more the UI like scrollbars. IMHO we have already all agreed to do it. ;-) Here is a sample of it: http://people.apache.org/~jza/index.html Please comment. Colors can be adjusted on the CSS. I don't know if I see it correct on my screen. But many images, CSS, JS is missing there. Furthermore the scrollbar is just a blue area of what should be the scrollbar. No indication how it works. Is this intended? However, thanks for volunteering. :-) Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: AOo in a multi-lingual environment
On 12/07/2014 Toki wrote: A couple of days ago I found my source copy of version 0.6 of _OOo in a Multi-Lingual Environment_ last night, in cleaning up files on my hard drive. (This is from December 2004, and is for OOo 1.1.3-ZA.) How fruitful would it be, to update it for AOo 4.x? It seems it's documentation, right? Well, for sure documentation updates are always welcome. I don't have a copy of that document so I don't know details, but judging from the subject this would be helpful to many users, so if you decide to invest some time on it it would be great. While documentation is better discussed on the doc list, I suspect that in this case you will have more chances to get appropriate technical answers if you ask the dev list (this one). Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Website: decorating the scrollpanes
Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/12/2014 04:36 AM, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: http://people.apache.org/~jza/index.html Please comment. Colors can be adjusted on the CSS. ... the scrollbar is just a blue area of what should be the scrollbar. No indication how it works. Is this intended? Colors are OK, and indeed better than the current dull gray we all dislike. But I agree this is not immediately recognizable as a scrollbar, so (provided we need it; we could actually shorten the content and do without) this is not very understandable for visitors. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Website: decorating the scrollpanes
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 4:50 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/12/2014 04:36 AM, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: http://people.apache.org/~jza/index.html Please comment. Colors can be adjusted on the CSS. ... the scrollbar is just a blue area of what should be the scrollbar. No indication how it works. Is this intended? Not sure how a scrollbar's ever indicates how it works? However the scrollbar bottons are disabled, they can be enable throught he CSS for a complete understanding of how JScrollPane() works you can read the Plugin project page. http://jscrollpane.kelvinluck.com/#download Colors are OK, and indeed better than the current dull gray we all dislike. But I agree this is not immediately recognizable as a scrollbar, so (provided we need it; we could actually shorten the content and do without) this is not very understandable for visitors. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
[VOTE][WWW] Homepage, Drop Inner-Scrollbars Unite News Areas
I suggest to dropoff the scrollbars from the News Blog posts areas, on the Homepage, and unite these areas into one zone, that notifies about, well, anything, whether latest news, posts, wanted volunteers, important upcoming dates, events, etc. Personally, I don't think the inner/frame scrollbars help much. In fact, they adhere reading, and I find it hard to work with 3 scrollbars on this rather simple homepage, in order to read a just a few lines (usually, the latest blog posts news don't contain more than 5 items), hence, the scrollbars are redundant. Voting rules: Remove Scrollbars: +1 Unite Zones: +2 Remove Scrollbars Unite areas: +3 DON'T Remove Scrollbars: -1 DON'T Unite Zones: -2 DON'T Remove Scrollbars nor Unite areas: -3 Tal
Re: Website: decorating the scrollpanes
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 6:25 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 4:50 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/12/2014 04:36 AM, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: http://people.apache.org/~jza/index.html Please comment. Colors can be adjusted on the CSS. ... the scrollbar is just a blue area of what should be the scrollbar. No indication how it works. Is this intended? Not sure how a scrollbar's ever indicates how it works? However the scrollbar bottons are disabled, they can be enable throught he CSS for a complete understanding of how JScrollPane() works you can read the Plugin project page. http://jscrollpane.kelvinluck.com/#download I did a quick fix and you can see the scrolling arrows, in case people are confused about the scrollbar. Colors are OK, and indeed better than the current dull gray we all dislike. But I agree this is not immediately recognizable as a scrollbar, so (provided we need it; we could actually shorten the content and do without) this is not very understandable for visitors. Regulating content could be harder that it sounds, also is pretty horrible the way the scrollbar is implemented at the moment using nested scrollbars. Definetly not the best solution. I am recomending also a carrousel pane, which will allow a more dynamic slide-show like flow of the information, using the showcase jQuery plugin: http://showcase.awkwardgroup.com/ Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Website: decorating the scrollpanes
Just letting you know, I've created a VOTE, in the mailinglist, for removing the inner-scrollbars unifying these 2 areas. (Subject: [VOTE][WWW] Homepage, Drop Inner-Scrollbars Unite News Areas) On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 6:25 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 4:50 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/12/2014 04:36 AM, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: http://people.apache.org/~jza/index.html Please comment. Colors can be adjusted on the CSS. ... the scrollbar is just a blue area of what should be the scrollbar. No indication how it works. Is this intended? Not sure how a scrollbar's ever indicates how it works? However the scrollbar bottons are disabled, they can be enable throught he CSS for a complete understanding of how JScrollPane() works you can read the Plugin project page. http://jscrollpane.kelvinluck.com/#download I did a quick fix and you can see the scrolling arrows, in case people are confused about the scrollbar. Colors are OK, and indeed better than the current dull gray we all dislike. But I agree this is not immediately recognizable as a scrollbar, so (provided we need it; we could actually shorten the content and do without) this is not very understandable for visitors. Regulating content could be harder that it sounds, also is pretty horrible the way the scrollbar is implemented at the moment using nested scrollbars. Definetly not the best solution. I am recomending also a carrousel pane, which will allow a more dynamic slide-show like flow of the information, using the showcase jQuery plugin: http://showcase.awkwardgroup.com/ Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 -- טל
Re: [VOTE][WWW] Homepage, Drop Inner-Scrollbars Unite News Areas
Perhaps you saw my post on changing from scrollbars to a carrousell slider similar to this one: http://showcase.awkwardgroup.com/ The reason that scrollbars were used is to not create a huge whitespace with a lot of content on the right side while the central part being static. The scrollbar created a fixed design of it all. A carrousel slider provides a much better way to show content without having to increment the space needed. I agree the inner/frame scrollbars are a mess, and some works need to be done with the classes news_all and campaign. Previously (almost 4 months ago) I recommend using a pane system, which will allow the user to increment the size of the widget through a hide/show on the title (this was more applied to a Faq site). Making it possible to consume initially a minimum of space. However it seems many people in this group have no idea what Javascript's frameworks are, confusing them with a server-side scripting language. http://markmail.org/thread/wmx2tnusflwzzpu5 On 7/12/14, Tal Daniel tal.re...@gmail.com wrote: I suggest to dropoff the scrollbars from the News Blog posts areas, on the Homepage, and unite these areas into one zone, that notifies about, well, anything, whether latest news, posts, wanted volunteers, important upcoming dates, events, etc. Personally, I don't think the inner/frame scrollbars help much. In fact, they adhere reading, and I find it hard to work with 3 scrollbars on this rather simple homepage, in order to read a just a few lines (usually, the latest blog posts news don't contain more than 5 items), hence, the scrollbars are redundant. Voting rules: Remove Scrollbars: +1 Unite Zones: +2 Remove Scrollbars Unite areas: +3 DON'T Remove Scrollbars: -1 DON'T Unite Zones: -2 DON'T Remove Scrollbars nor Unite areas: -3 Tal -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Website: decorating the scrollpanes
I think the scrollbar is fine, it helps keep the content from overflowing the design of the page. That said, I think the nested scrollbars do not serve any porpouse at all. However I presented a better solution without abusing the scrollbar functionality and maybe increasing the attractiveness of the homepage. On 7/12/14, Tal Daniel tal.re...@gmail.com wrote: Just letting you know, I've created a VOTE, in the mailinglist, for removing the inner-scrollbars unifying these 2 areas. (Subject: [VOTE][WWW] Homepage, Drop Inner-Scrollbars Unite News Areas) On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 6:25 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 4:50 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/12/2014 04:36 AM, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: http://people.apache.org/~jza/index.html Please comment. Colors can be adjusted on the CSS. ... the scrollbar is just a blue area of what should be the scrollbar. No indication how it works. Is this intended? Not sure how a scrollbar's ever indicates how it works? However the scrollbar bottons are disabled, they can be enable throught he CSS for a complete understanding of how JScrollPane() works you can read the Plugin project page. http://jscrollpane.kelvinluck.com/#download I did a quick fix and you can see the scrolling arrows, in case people are confused about the scrollbar. Colors are OK, and indeed better than the current dull gray we all dislike. But I agree this is not immediately recognizable as a scrollbar, so (provided we need it; we could actually shorten the content and do without) this is not very understandable for visitors. Regulating content could be harder that it sounds, also is pretty horrible the way the scrollbar is implemented at the moment using nested scrollbars. Definetly not the best solution. I am recomending also a carrousel pane, which will allow a more dynamic slide-show like flow of the information, using the showcase jQuery plugin: http://showcase.awkwardgroup.com/ Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 -- טל -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
[WWW] home page/website(?) restyle
As asked by Kay, here it is a new thread. Unfortunately I didn't have much time to volunteer to this (and I'm not sure in the next period either. Anyway, if you see anything you want from what I did, feel free to pick it (I suppose I can write here it is released under AL2 license and everything should be fine). That said, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/02/2014 09:41 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/02/2014 07:50 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: http://getbootstrap.com/css/#buttons I'm not really sure, maybe it will look very bad, but maybe there are some elements can we can work with. Maybe good or bad. But it's definitely a step back as the buttons are just colored but now we have a graphic. This would be gone which is, hm, not good looking... ;-) In the buttons of course one could reuse all the graphics, but still use Bootstrap buttons for the shape and to highlight the active choice. If the idea is to use bootstrap it may be worth re-adapt the entire HTML according to the bootstrap way. It will be a pain at the beginning (it basically means rewrite a lot of stuff), but I suppose it would be an advantage in the mid/long term. For example, another thing I was considering is the separation of the menu and the breadcrumbs with a menu fixed-top and the breadcrumbs where the are now: http://testing.elkarte.it/testing/ooo/index_fix.html ah, yes, that would work. The current divs do not look bad (actually, they look nice!) on the current homepage, while they don't fit well in the new proposal; It would be nice to know why. ;) (Of course just because if you tell me the why I may try to understand how to fix it.) The very first time the hovers were a bit random (they didn't always reach the bottom border), in the second version they are more consistent (except the last two because the underline is not on the li, but on the ul, but that's a detail that can be fixed), if it is what you mean. Kay Schenk wrote: The template pieces are currently in the /lib and /templates directory of the ooo-site tree. Are the css compiled somehow as well, or are they in the home.css, ooo.css, etc. files? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Open Office fraud
Hello, I've got an email to buy office for 49€ but I'll already have Microsoft Office. The Icons look a lot like the ones from Open Office. http://www.officebestellen.nl/ I think they are asking 49€ for Open Office. Maybe you should investigate it? Greetings, Jeffrey Carels - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Website: decorating the scrollpanes
Am 07/12/2014 02:55 PM, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 6:25 AM, Alexandro Coloradoj...@oooes.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 4:50 AM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org wrote: Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/12/2014 04:36 AM, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: http://people.apache.org/~jza/index.html Please comment. Colors can be adjusted on the CSS. ... the scrollbar is just a blue area of what should be the scrollbar. No indication how it works. Is this intended? Not sure how a scrollbar's ever indicates how it works? However the scrollbar bottons are disabled, they can be enable throught he CSS for a complete understanding of how JScrollPane() works you can read the Plugin project page. http://jscrollpane.kelvinluck.com/#download I did a quick fix and you can see the scrolling arrows, in case people are confused about the scrollbar. thanks, this looks better. However, the scrollbar is now going over the arrows when getting to the top or bottom. But I understand that it's just a demo webpage. Colors are OK, and indeed better than the current dull gray we all dislike. But I agree this is not immediately recognizable as a scrollbar, so (provided we need it; we could actually shorten the content and do without) this is not very understandable for visitors. Regulating content could be harder that it sounds, also is pretty horrible the way the scrollbar is implemented at the moment using nested scrollbars. Then you should delete them. ;-) Definetly not the best solution. I am recomending also a carrousel pane, which will allow a more dynamic slide-show like flow of the information, using the showcase jQuery plugin: http://showcase.awkwardgroup.com/ There are a lot of frameworks that offer a carousel. But whatever we will use: +100 for implementing a carousel. :-) Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [VOTE][WWW] Homepage, Drop Inner-Scrollbars Unite News Areas
Marcus (OOo) wrote: IMHO there is no need to do a vote for this topic. Sure, no need for a formal vote (these are very, very rare). And please note that the current design was never announced as the final one. It was just to help to get rid of the lng text area where everybody had to scroll to the bottom get see all. These were the steps that led to it: - We used to have only one area, used for announcements (short text, self-contained, i.e., it did not link to a further information page) - We wanted to give some more visibility to blogs since they were updated more often than these announcements; thus the area was split into Blog Posts and News, but there is no reason to keep it separate; we can merge them and Latest Blog posts can become one of the News items. - Marcus explained why the scrollbars were born: basically this grew out of control. What about to create a demo webpage to show us your ideas? This is probably the way to go. The whole tree under /test can be used for experiments. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [VOTE][WWW] Homepage, Drop Inner-Scrollbars Unite News Areas
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Marcus (OOo) wrote: IMHO there is no need to do a vote for this topic. Sure, no need for a formal vote (these are very, very rare). And please note that the current design was never announced as the final one. It was just to help to get rid of the lng text area where everybody had to scroll to the bottom get see all. Understandable... These were the steps that led to it: - We used to have only one area, used for announcements (short text, self-contained, i.e., it did not link to a further information page) - We wanted to give some more visibility to blogs since they were updated more often than these announcements; thus the area was split into Blog Posts and News, but there is no reason to keep it separate; we can merge them and Latest Blog posts can become one of the News items. This sounds fine -- I would be in favor of just keeping the heading as News. I don't suppose there's an issue of keeping Blogs on top. What had been done in the past is to manually move older items to the news archive at /news/index.html. We need to decided if we want to continue to do this. A different discussion -- maybe even involving a different way of doing this -- a news feed. So, +3 from me on this and to me this means going back to the old way for now. (Offloading items as the list becomes too long). - Marcus explained why the scrollbars were born: basically this grew out of control. What about to create a demo webpage to show us your ideas? This is probably the way to go. The whole tree under /test can be used for experiments. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK To be trusted is a greater compliment than being loved. -- George MacDonald
Re: Website: decorating the scrollpanes
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/12/2014 02:55 PM, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 6:25 AM, Alexandro Coloradoj...@oooes.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 4:50 AM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org wrote: Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/12/2014 04:36 AM, schrieb Alexandro Colorado: http://people.apache.org/~jza/index.html Please comment. Colors can be adjusted on the CSS. ... the scrollbar is just a blue area of what should be the scrollbar. No indication how it works. Is this intended? Not sure how a scrollbar's ever indicates how it works? However the scrollbar bottons are disabled, they can be enable throught he CSS for a complete understanding of how JScrollPane() works you can read the Plugin project page. http://jscrollpane.kelvinluck.com/#download I did a quick fix and you can see the scrolling arrows, in case people are confused about the scrollbar. thanks, this looks better. However, the scrollbar is now going over the arrows when getting to the top or bottom. But I understand that it's just a demo webpage. Colors are OK, and indeed better than the current dull gray we all dislike. But I agree this is not immediately recognizable as a scrollbar, so (provided we need it; we could actually shorten the content and do without) this is not very understandable for visitors. Regulating content could be harder that it sounds, also is pretty horrible the way the scrollbar is implemented at the moment using nested scrollbars. Then you should delete them. ;-) Definetly not the best solution. I am recomending also a carrousel pane, which will allow a more dynamic slide-show like flow of the information, using the showcase jQuery plugin: http://showcase.awkwardgroup.com/ There are a lot of frameworks that offer a carousel. But whatever we will use: +100 for implementing a carousel. :-) Marcus This is a good idea too. Especially in light of the alternate design proposed by Emanuele...let's try to integrate all these ideas. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK To be trusted is a greater compliment than being loved. -- George MacDonald
Re: Open Office fraud
Thank you for reporting this to us. We will surely investigate. On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 6:32 AM, t658180 natasha.decle...@telenet.be wrote: Hello, I've got an email to buy office for 49€ but I'll already have Microsoft Office. The Icons look a lot like the ones from Open Office. http://www.officebestellen.nl/ I think they are asking 49€ for Open Office. Maybe you should investigate it? Greetings, Jeffrey Carels - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK To be trusted is a greater compliment than being loved. -- George MacDonald
Re: [WWW] home page/website(?) restyle
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Emanuele emanuel...@gmail.com wrote: As asked by Kay, here it is a new thread. Unfortunately I didn't have much time to volunteer to this (and I'm not sure in the next period either. Anyway, if you see anything you want from what I did, feel free to pick it (I suppose I can write here it is released under AL2 license and everything should be fine). That said, Thanks for the new thread and for the interesting new design. Given discussions about the website home page just form today, you can see there is considerable interest in improving our landing page. Your design incorporates some much needed creative elements! Whenever you can communicate again is just fine. Looking forward to more of your communication and ideas. Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/02/2014 09:41 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/02/2014 07:50 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: http://getbootstrap.com/css/#buttons I'm not really sure, maybe it will look very bad, but maybe there are some elements can we can work with. Maybe good or bad. But it's definitely a step back as the buttons are just colored but now we have a graphic. This would be gone which is, hm, not good looking... ;-) In the buttons of course one could reuse all the graphics, but still use Bootstrap buttons for the shape and to highlight the active choice. If the idea is to use bootstrap it may be worth re-adapt the entire HTML according to the bootstrap way. It will be a pain at the beginning (it basically means rewrite a lot of stuff), but I suppose it would be an advantage in the mid/long term. For example, another thing I was considering is the separation of the menu and the breadcrumbs with a menu fixed-top and the breadcrumbs where the are now: http://testing.elkarte.it/testing/ooo/index_fix.html ah, yes, that would work. The current divs do not look bad (actually, they look nice!) on the current homepage, while they don't fit well in the new proposal; It would be nice to know why. ;) (Of course just because if you tell me the why I may try to understand how to fix it.) The very first time the hovers were a bit random (they didn't always reach the bottom border), in the second version they are more consistent (except the last two because the underline is not on the li, but on the ul, but that's a detail that can be fixed), if it is what you mean. Kay Schenk wrote: The template pieces are currently in the /lib and /templates directory of the ooo-site tree. Are the css compiled somehow as well, or are they in the home.css, ooo.css, etc. files? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK To be trusted is a greater compliment than being loved. -- George MacDonald
Re: [WWW] home page/website(?) restyle
I Join Kay's with the compliments. Nice ideas. I think you demonstrated how Bootstrap library can be utilized for the Homepage/site. On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Emanuele emanuel...@gmail.com wrote: As asked by Kay, here it is a new thread. Unfortunately I didn't have much time to volunteer to this (and I'm not sure in the next period either. Anyway, if you see anything you want from what I did, feel free to pick it (I suppose I can write here it is released under AL2 license and everything should be fine). That said, Thanks for the new thread and for the interesting new design. Given discussions about the website home page just form today, you can see there is considerable interest in improving our landing page. Your design incorporates some much needed creative elements! Whenever you can communicate again is just fine. Looking forward to more of your communication and ideas. Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/02/2014 09:41 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/02/2014 07:50 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: http://getbootstrap.com/css/#buttons I'm not really sure, maybe it will look very bad, but maybe there are some elements can we can work with. Maybe good or bad. But it's definitely a step back as the buttons are just colored but now we have a graphic. This would be gone which is, hm, not good looking... ;-) In the buttons of course one could reuse all the graphics, but still use Bootstrap buttons for the shape and to highlight the active choice. If the idea is to use bootstrap it may be worth re-adapt the entire HTML according to the bootstrap way. It will be a pain at the beginning (it basically means rewrite a lot of stuff), but I suppose it would be an advantage in the mid/long term. For example, another thing I was considering is the separation of the menu and the breadcrumbs with a menu fixed-top and the breadcrumbs where the are now: http://testing.elkarte.it/testing/ooo/index_fix.html ah, yes, that would work. The current divs do not look bad (actually, they look nice!) on the current homepage, while they don't fit well in the new proposal; It would be nice to know why. ;) (Of course just because if you tell me the why I may try to understand how to fix it.) The very first time the hovers were a bit random (they didn't always reach the bottom border), in the second version they are more consistent (except the last two because the underline is not on the li, but on the ul, but that's a detail that can be fixed), if it is what you mean. Kay Schenk wrote: The template pieces are currently in the /lib and /templates directory of the ooo-site tree. Are the css compiled somehow as well, or are they in the home.css, ooo.css, etc. files? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK To be trusted is a greater compliment than being loved. -- George MacDonald -- טל
Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!
I reordered the language list, and fixed the spacing to line separator. Take into account that styles may change in the future, as there are requests to use Bootstrap library, or sorts. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 12:42 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/09/2014 02:30 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 08/07/2014 Tal Daniel wrote: Regarding the ORDER of languages, we have a tie. Should we take that to a VOTE? -- No need to. It's a minor thing. I think that the bottom line is: sort by something that is visible and sort in a way that a native speaker of a language based on a non-Latin alphabet would find normal. So long as it has a logic, I'm fine with that and I think others will be too. +1 Whatever the sorting will look like, it has to be traceable for the user. Indeed here there are different conventions around, for example http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/locale.aspx (just to pick one with a long list, but any corporate site will do) lists all Latin first, then Greek, Cyrillic and others, by alphabet. While wow, that must be a nearly complete list. ;-) I've done some more researching and found the following website with the same sorting rule: - Youtube (see footer) - Facebook (see header) - Google+ (see footer) - Twitter (see header) All sort first via Latin, then Cyrillic, then Arabic, then Indian, then Far-East. So, the bigger and most known websites seem to have a common sorting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer for some reason puts Hebrew between Italiano and Basa Jawa (does this sound natural to you?). Of course, it's again the sorting via ISO codes. Just have a look into the HTML code: :-P it - Italiano he - Hebrew jv - Basa Jawa But to answer your (rhetorical ;-) ) question: No, I would expect a more visible and therefore reasonable sorting. BTW: It's the same for Mozilla (see the language button in the footer). Even when the visible result is different to Wikipedia. We also expose ISO codes, so sorting by codes could be a way to make it simpler. Whatever works best for you, Tal, will probably work for us too! @Tal: Finally: It seems the common sorting rule is first via Latin, then Cyrillic, then Arabic, then Indian, then Far-East (more or less this way as I cannot interprete every character set of this world). So, I would suggest to sort this way, too. And yes, I know that I wrote something different in my previous mails. But after looking closer on other websites I think I have to change my opinion. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- טל
Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!
Am 07/12/2014 10:10 PM, schrieb Tal Daniel: I reordered the language list, and fixed the spacing to line separator. looks good. Have you seen already that the current sorting looks a bit incomplete? The languages with latin characters should be sorted via their native names and the non-latin languages maybe via ISO code. Then the visible order is perfect. Take into account that styles may change in the future, as there are requests to use Bootstrap library, or sorts. I hope so. :-) Marcus On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 12:42 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/09/2014 02:30 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 08/07/2014 Tal Daniel wrote: Regarding the ORDER of languages, we have a tie. Should we take that to a VOTE? -- No need to. It's a minor thing. I think that the bottom line is: sort by something that is visible and sort in a way that a native speaker of a language based on a non-Latin alphabet would find normal. So long as it has a logic, I'm fine with that and I think others will be too. +1 Whatever the sorting will look like, it has to be traceable for the user. Indeed here there are different conventions around, for example http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/locale.aspx (just to pick one with a long list, but any corporate site will do) lists all Latin first, then Greek, Cyrillic and others, by alphabet. While wow, that must be a nearly complete list. ;-) I've done some more researching and found the following website with the same sorting rule: - Youtube (see footer) - Facebook (see header) - Google+ (see footer) - Twitter (see header) All sort first via Latin, then Cyrillic, then Arabic, then Indian, then Far-East. So, the bigger and most known websites seem to have a common sorting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer for some reason puts Hebrew between Italiano and Basa Jawa (does this sound natural to you?). Of course, it's again the sorting via ISO codes. Just have a look into the HTML code: :-P it - Italiano he - Hebrew jv - Basa Jawa But to answer your (rhetorical ;-) ) question: No, I would expect a more visible and therefore reasonable sorting. BTW: It's the same for Mozilla (see the language button in the footer). Even when the visible result is different to Wikipedia. We also expose ISO codes, so sorting by codes could be a way to make it simpler. Whatever works best for you, Tal, will probably work for us too! @Tal: Finally: It seems the common sorting rule is first via Latin, then Cyrillic, then Arabic, then Indian, then Far-East (more or less this way as I cannot interprete every character set of this world). So, I would suggest to sort this way, too. And yes, I know that I wrote something different in my previous mails. But after looking closer on other websites I think I have to change my opinion. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Code snippets from oooforum in AOO website?
OK, I finally got off my backside and called The OOoForum owner. Seems that he is alive, well, and very busy and was not even aware that the site was down. He said that he obviously has not been doing a good job and is willing to discuss with the AOO team moving content and/or site. Let me know who should have his contact information and I will send it on. Obviously I don't want to post his phone number to this list. Sorry for the delay. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Warum wurde wieder durchmodieriert (was: Fehler Meldung nach Version 4.1.)
WARUM WURD WIEDER DURCHMODERIERT? Ich kann nach dem Geschehnisen der letzten Zeit nur vermuten das Michael hier wieder einmal auf eigene Faust gehandelt hat und jegliche Absprachen missachtet. Ich gebe hiermit der Community zur Kenntnis das auch keine Information der anderen Moderatoren erfolgt ist. Ich fordere Michael hiermit auf sich endlich an Absprachen zu halten! Mein Vertrauen als Moderator geniesst Michael nicht mehr. Gruß Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-de-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-de-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Fehler Meldung nach Version 4.1.
Hallo Manfred, leider bist Du nicht auf der richtigen Mailingliste gelandet. Für solche Fragen solltest Du die (Software-)Entwickler direkt anschreiben, welche hierüber d...@openoffice.apache.org (Englisch) zu erreichen sind. Weitere Hinweise zu unseren Mailinglisten findest Du hier: http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html HTH Marcus Am 07/11/2014 05:52 PM, schrieb Manfred Kain: nach Installation der neuen Version bekomme ich eine Fehlermeldung , daß ein Prozedureinsprung in der drawinglayer.dll nicht gefunden wird. trotz reparieren, kommt das immer wieder. Link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/l8efch4j71m8y1k/Screenshot%202014-07-11%2017.43.43.png - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-de-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-de-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Warum wurde wieder durchmodieriert (was: Fehler Meldung nach Version 4.1.)
Am 12.07.2014 09:41, schrieb Jörg Schmidt: WARUM WURD WIEDER DURCHMODERIERT? Ich kann nach dem Geschehnisen der letzten Zeit nur vermuten das Michael hier wieder einmal auf eigene Faust gehandelt hat und jegliche Absprachen missachtet. Warum hast Du die Mail nicht rejectet? Mein Vertrauen als Moderator geniesst Michael nicht mehr. Ist schon seit geraumer Zeit bekannt; ist notiert; brauchste nicht immer zu wiederholen. Gruß Michael signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Die Gemeinschaft kann nur in Anerkennung der Gemeinschaftsmeinung arbeiten
From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 10:17 AM To: dev-de@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Die Gemeinschaft kann nur in Anerkennung der Gemeinschaftsmeinung arbeiten Am 12.07.2014 09:57, schrieb Jörg Schmidt: Ich protestiere dagegen und ich werde zu solchen Geschehnissen auch in Zukunft nicht schweigen. Mach' Dich nicht lächerlich! Es ist eine Frechheit mit welcher Kaltschäuzigkeit Du hier versuchst Deine Meinung gegen den Diskussionskonsenz durchzudrücken! Erwarte nicht das Du damit durchkommst. Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-de-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-de-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Warum wurde wieder durchmodieriert (was: Fehler Meldung nach Version 4.1.)
From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] Ich kann nach dem Geschehnisen der letzten Zeit nur vermuten das Michael hier wieder einmal auf eigene Faust gehandelt hat und jegliche Absprachen missachtet. War eingestandenermaßen ein Fehler meinerseits, aber ich bin halt nicht so perfekt wie Jörg. 'Danke', nur ich nehme für mich nirgens in Anspruch perfekt zu sein, ABER ich nehme für mich in Anspruch Mehrheiten zu respektieren, was Dir ja überflüssig scheint. Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-de-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-de-h...@openoffice.apache.org
