Re: [dev] amount of stopper / regressions for 3.1 release
Hi, Rich wrote: On 2009.03.17. 19:56, Mathias Bauer wrote: Hi, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann - Software Engineer - Sun Microsystems wrote: Hi all, Thorsten Ziehm wrote: ... IMHO, we do not find critical problems (show stoppers) in DEV builds very early, only half of them are found early according to my experience. Some data about the show stoppers, which I have fixed in the last days: thinking about time when bugs are found i got reminded about one issue - actually getting the dev/testing builds. i'll admit ignorance about how these things are handled, but that might also help to understand how many possible testers would see it. from my point of view, dev snapshots aren't always available fast enough, and quite often in dev series only every other build is available to public. of course, this means less testing and testing later in the development process. for example, currently supposedly OOO310_m6 is available, public download - m5 supposedly DEV300_m43 is available, public download - m41 ideally, dev snapshouts would be built distributed automatically as soon as possible, and all of them. otherwise testers of development versions will either always come in later in the cycle, or only dedicated qa involved people will do testing, who know where/how to get a more recent dev snapshot - but that probably wouldn't quite qualify as a sufficient real world usage... I fully agree with you. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] OOo langpacks using with StarOffice
Hi Kami, Szalai KAMI Kálmán wrote: Hi OpenOffice.org Fans, Is it possible to apply OOo langpackes to StarOffice? How Romanian translation is complete? May be this page will help you: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Languages#Language_localization_status Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] Internationalisation of gallery theme name
Hi Francis, Francis Giraldeau wrote: Hi, We face an issue with galleries, because custom theme names can't be translated. The file format for theme doesn't seem to support internationalization. Only galleries shipped by default are translated. It could be possible to add each translation into the .thm file, about the same way as a .desktop file. Hum, you aim translation to French? I'm able to add Gallery themes with French names. What do you mean exactly? That localization is not available when you load a Gallery depending on the local used in OOo? Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev] Quarterly review meetings for identifying important issues and enhancements
Hi Khirano Kazunari Hirano wrote: Hi Martin, in the past there were several complaints raised that some defects and also requirements got not the right priority. In fact we've got a long list of RFE in IssueTracker (either assigned to requirements or bh) What is bh? It means Bettina Haberer, she was in charge with the RFE triage in the past. Kind regards Sophie Thanks, khirano - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev] Release 2.4
Hi Patrick, Patrick wrote: Bonjour, peut-on télécharger et à quelle adresse une version 2.4 ? It seems that you've forgot the fr part in the adress ;) Please ask on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list or better on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[dev] Could the pacht attached to 36594 be integrated ?
Hi all, Could somebody have a look to the patch attached to this issue ? http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=36594 What is needed for it to be integrated, I'm in contact with the developer and he would be happy to contribute more on it but he needs some advices. Could this patch solve also this bug ? http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=29646 Thanks in advance for your answer. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[dev] Trusted OOo version ?
Hi all, The French ministry of Defense is asking me where developers are with the Trusted OpenOffice.org version they have discussed during the meetings they had together. They would like to submit it to Esat and make a special communication about this version during Solution Linux, an event that take place in Paris by the end of January (http://www.solutionslinux.fr/en/index.php) So could you give me some informations allowing me to answer their request. If you would like to answer them directly, please tell me, I'll give you their addresses. Thanks in advance Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[dev] Spool directory in OOo registry
Hi all, I'm trying to understand how to configure OOo and the organization of the .xcs, .xcu files. I found some documentation about it on this page : http://util.openoffice.org/common/configuration/oor-registry.html but I can't find the spool directory it is about (($install)/share/registry/spool) Could you give me a hint please on where to find this ? Thanks in advance Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev] Spool directory in OOo registry
Hi Cyrille, Cyrille Moureaux wrote: Hi Sophie, [...] Judging from the comment associated with the latest change to that file made by Jörg, I'd say that it isn't in use (nor even present) any longer. The comment states that the spool + merge mechanism (described in the document) is replaced with the use of a multi-layer backend, i.e a backend which is able to consider multiple files describing the same component in the same directory. This is the case in the modules tree, where the leaf directories contain a number of fragments coming from the different modules and all providing data for the component. It more or less amounts to doing the merge in memory at runtime rather than requiring a manual import step. Thanks for your answer, reading other documentation, I understand it that way too. So my conclusion would be that the document is outdated in that paragraph, but that the Registry Data section later (which mentions the modules directory without reference to any spooling) is up to date. I won't claim this is the definitive answer, but in light of the actual contents of an install this looks like the most likely. Ok, thanks Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[dev] [Fwd: OFL revision available for review]
Hello all, As I know that some of you are interested by the Open Font License, here is the message from Victor Gaultney calling for its review. Please don't hesitate to give your feedback to Victor or Nicolas :) Kind regards Sophie Original Message Subject: OFL revision available for review Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:53:19 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Sophie, We're thankful for your ongoing interest in the Open Font License, and have some good news: OFL-1.1-review2 is now available for your review. This will be the final stage of review, and we hope to get the final 1.1 out before the end of the year. We have taken into account much of the feedback we received on the original OFL 1.0, as well as OFL-1.1-review1, and have now written OFL-1.1-review2. These revisions do not change the actual intent of the license - they just clarify how the intent is expressed and fix some possible ambiguities or problematic scenarios which have been flagged up by the reviewers. Getting this new review version out has taken us longer than expected as we had to focus on various other projects over the past few months, so thank you for your patience. You will find the new OFL-1.1-review2, the diff against the previous OFL-1.1-review1, a summary of the changes as well as an updated FAQ - along with the corresponding diff - at http://scripts.sil.org/OFL_review Please look at this new review version as soon as possible and give us your feedback via the OFL-discuss mailing list, or directly to us. Because this is likely to be the final stage of review, and because we want to get version 1.1 out soon, we're asking for your feedback before December 8. As you are probably aware, good progress has been made in the last year toward improving the font landscape on the free desktop, as well as on a variety of operating systems. The OFL has become a key component in this, and we've been able to promote and shape the OFL through various lists, IRC discussions and FLOSS conferences (Libre Graphics Meeting, the Ubuntu Summit, the GUADEC, the AKademy, and others). We're also working to engage the typographic community in supplying OFL-licensed fonts. These efforts have been successful, and we now have various new font families released under OFL, and some groups actively using the OFL, such as the Greek Font Society. There is now a grassroots campaign coordinated by Unifont.org with sponsorship of various key organisations in the FLOSS community to encourage more designers to consider choosing the OFL for their font projects. Representatives of the GNOME board are in contact with Bitstream to get a re-release of Vera under OFL and the Dejavu team is seriously considering the OFL too. So things are seriously moving ahead for free/open font these days and we're confident the clarifications brought by a final OFL 1.1 will be a big help in the efforts to make it easier for designers to collaborate on font design, to improve the overall font landscape and enable more languages - no matter how complex their script - to be fully supported on the free desktop. Thanks again for your interest and help. Looking forward to your feedback, Victor Gaultney, Non-Roman Script Initiative, SIL International Nicolas Spalinger, NRSI volunteer -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.19/556 - Release Date: 28/11/2006 15:22 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev] CSpace Oh Oh Seven as an Open Office Component
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi the idea was, to make CSpace a component of the Open Office Suite. Openoffice.org has 6 components like Word Excel Powerpoint etc. humm, and what is the like for Draw ? Open Office is short OO. Wrong, the name of our product is OpenOffice.org so the short name is OOo, and we really mean this third o. A 7th one could be a Messenger: CSpace. We could call it CSapce Oh Oh Seven - So spoken Cyberspace OO7. As it would be the 7th component of the suite. All component in OOo are named OpenOffice.org name of the module in your case this might be OpenOffice.org CSpace Oh Oh Seven (quite long for a GUI entry). By the way, what does Oh Oh mean ? I asked in the developer forum. There are different ways to integrate it: Integrated to the core or as an ad-on or just bundled into the installer. The first requirement would be that it is required for OOo by the community. So read the process defined on the site and our guidelines for participating in order to achieve your goal. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev] [EN] Comment about the spell checker
Hi Gloops, Gloops wrote: Ma parole, mais il y a du monde, ici ... Yes, in fact Gibi means the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, not the English speaking one, so could you post on the dev@fr.openoffice.org list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) where your mail will be more expected :-) Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev] Re: [discuss] DGME : Poste de travail : les clés d'un projet réussi
Bonsoir Philippe, philippelara wrote: [... ] apparemment mon DSI n'en n'a pas entendu parler Peut-être puis-je aider ? Tu peux m'écrire en privé si tu le préfères. A bientôt Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[dev] Libre Graphic Meeting
Hi all, For your information, the 17, 18, 19 march 2006, will take place the Libre Graphic Meeting in Lyon (France). Developers from several projects like Gimp, Blender, Scribus, Cairo... will be present, see the conference schedule here http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/schedule.php. Most of the conferences will be presented in English. The goal of the 3 days it to make developers from graphic projects meet and share their knowledge. If you need more information about it, please let me know. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[dev] From FR community
Hi all, This is now 3 days that the FR 2.0 release is out. I've received about 50 mails directly in my mail box and more on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] addressed to the OOo dev team. So this is done now : to all the OOo developers, a big thank you ! from the francophone community :) Kind regards Sophie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/151 - Release Date: 28/10/2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev] Bridge between Geotools and Cacl : a new add-in
Hi Eike, Eike Rathke wrote: Hi Sophie, On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 10:40:34 +0200, Sophie Gautier wrote: Martin Desruisseaux and his team has designed a new add-in for Calc. Nice :) Thanks, Functions are still in english so you may understand them :) But it is known that also Add-In function names are localizable? It's on their to-do list. Kind regards Sophie Eike -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12/77 - Release Date: 18/08/2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev] How to keep users away from Base
Hi Frank, Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany wrote: Hi Sophie, Huh? Sorry, what tables do you want to drag'n'drop in this dialog? Not in the new toolsoptionsbase dialog, but we are not able any more to copy a table from one db to another by a simple drag'n drop in the DSB, or is it a bug ? Issue 39146, targeted for 2.0.1 :) Thanks, Frank, happy to see that it's a bug and not a feature ;) You can still do this in the application windows, but that's admittedly not remotely as convinient as in the DSB. yes. Kind regards Sophie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.1/51 - Release Date: 18/07/2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev] How to keep users away from Base
Hi Frank, all, Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany wrote: Hi Matthias, For instance, it would be a good start to remove Database from the quickstarter pop-up and the File/New dialog. How would I do that? Latest builds have a possibility to remove Base from the installation during setup, just as you can do with the other applications. For now, this basically only implies that the New database entries are removed from various places, including the ones you mentioned. Additionally, the data source browser (F4) is removed, and you cannot open DB files from the File|Open dialog. See [1] for details. As I understand it, not every body will want to use Base (HSQLDB integration) but still want to access their external database (like MySQL/SQLite/etc.) without using Base (the database environment). Am I right in using the same word ? Testing the 'with' and 'without' Base option lead us to 2 reflections: - not activating Base during install process don't let you know that you won't access to any of your external database any more (we have tested it during an event last week and users were pretty confused) - we lack a great fonctionnality (yes again ;) that was in the spirit of 1.x branch : the ability to deal with external database under F4 whatever the module you use. Am I right or do I miss something or will it be possible in the future ? Kind regards Sophie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.1/51 - Release Date: 18/07/2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev] How to keep users away from Base
Hi Frank, Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany wrote: Hi Sophie, As I understand it, not every body will want to use Base (HSQLDB integration) but still want to access their external database (like MySQL/SQLite/etc.) without using Base (the database environment). Am I right in using the same word ? Ehm, well. Terminology is in fact not clear here. Well I agree with you and I feel that clearing it will help users to address what they would like :) There are at least three things: - Base is the application, that is, at least the UI for editing database documents (no matter whether they connect to external or internal databases) - HSQLDB is the engine used when the user asks Base to create a self-contained database document. - There's quite some database-related functionality in the other applications. See the Future Tasks section in the specification I linked to, to get an idea - it's really more one would expect in the first run :) Whether this particular functionality is part of Base or not is debatable. For the data source browser, we decided it *is*. Ok I understand it. The problem with the optional Base feature (which closed in on very short notice only) is that it's in no way clear what a user expects if she disables Base in the setup. What should be gone then? The application UI? The integrated engine? The integration into other application? The integration into Writer only, or into Calc only? Well, from the feedback I had (from only one community I agree) is the fact they have to deal any time with Base (the application) when they have to edit a db or do a mailing, etc. is time consuming. Caring for *all* potential needs here requires much more fine-grained control during setup than the current Base on/off option. As you can see in the Future tasks capter, we're at least aware of this :). yes, I understand how difficult it could be :) Imho, I think that most of the new OOo users will evaluate Base (and it's 3 meanings) as the tool that deals with database, like Writer deals with texts. But previous users currently see it as the tool that deals with the self contained database document and really miss the F4 functionalities. It's quicker to do a mailing without the wizard, it's quicker to edit a dBase file without opening the Base application. Am I right or do I miss something or will it be possible in the future ? No, you're right, there are different use cases, while the current option addresses only one (namely installations where the users should not be able to create/modify database documents of any kind, but only use the ones provided by other parties, and still should have all application-integration). ok *Whether* and *When* the other use cases will be addressed is not clear (to me) at the moment. It probably depends on how many users/customers think it's necessary :) Of course :) ok, so let us bring you a large feedback on this ;) Thanks for your answer Kind regards Sophie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.1/51 - Release Date: 18/07/2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev] How to keep users away from Base
Hi Frank , Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany wrote: Hello Sophie-who-is-never-happy ;-) :) The fact that in usual installations, the DSB contains less registered data sources than in OOo 1.x, can be worked around by, well, Tools|Options|Databases (and note that if you create a .odb file, the wizard usually automatically registeres it for you, if you do not explicitly uncheck the respective option). oh yes, I completly miss this new dialog, sorry (I read the specs really to quickly, if fact only read your feature description :( That was mostly what I was speaking about. Is it new since m118 or sooner ? Ehm, no, it's quite old already :). There's an RFE requesting that it can be invoked from the DSB, and your reaction again shows me that it's really a pity we couldn't do this for 2.0 anymore. well, no matter the time if it's going to happen ;) That was those one that you access bys right clicking on a table. But the dialog under tooloption simplify all the process to register db, it's great :) Only copy with drag and drop from one table to another is not possible (Sophie who is never happy ;) Huh? Sorry, what tables do you want to drag'n'drop in this dialog? Not in the new toolsoptionsbase dialog, but we are not able any more to copy a table from one db to another by a simple drag'n drop in the DSB, or is it a bug ? Kind regards Sophie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.1/51 - Release Date: 18/07/2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev] [help]Eclipse and Google Code Summer
Hi Cedric, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Quoting Laurent Godard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: unfortunatelly, i don't know the process and can not be of any help I may perharps relay What do you need exactly for an help ? I just wanted to know howto to apply for the Google SoC. I found it with some difficulties on http://code.google.com. Even if they do not take my project into consideration, I will develop it... Google is indicating the perl guide http://www.perlfoundation.org/gc/grants/proposals.html to write it. Then you have to submit this form http://code.google.com/soc_application.html. Google will dispatch them through the projects I think. But it seems that you have done it very well :) As I told you, you should have an answer around the 24th. Don't hesitate if you have any question. Kind regards Sophie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.7 - Release Date: 10/06/2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev] [help]Eclipse and Google Code Summer
Hi Cedric, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Sophie Gautier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As I told you, you should have an answer around the 24th. Don't hesitate if you have any question. It would be difficult to wait this answer... Open Source learn you to be patient ;) I still wonder if anybody could be my mentor for this project. One thing is sure : I allready have sufficiently experience on Eclipse to work alone on this. I get the habit to understand huge APIs, and I'll will not ask too many time and Eclipse knowledge. I dont know if I should allready have one person or not. Does anybody know exactly how it works ? Or should I wait the 24th to find a mentor ? Well, from what I understand, you won't have any answer before that date or so. Just to let every body express his project and I think that Google is managing the applications. So I'm afraid you won't have any news before the mentoring program is in place for the retain projects. Kind regards Sophie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.7 - Release Date: 10/06/2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[dev] Free Software Trophies results
Hi all, Just for information, Free Software Trophies have taken place on the 26th of May. http://tropheesdulibre.org/article.php3?id_article=23 (english link) The winner is Lodel, a web publishing system accepting OOo file formats http://www.lodel.org/ (also in english) with Lucane Groupware, a free groupware platform under LGPL : http://lucane.org/EN/ (also in english) HSQLBD is bundled to Lucane. and WebCT95 a dynamic website generator : http://www.webct95en.org/ (english link) Kind regards Sophie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 08/06/2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev] Announcement Uno Runtime Environment (URE)
Hi Kay, Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg wrote: Dear OpenOffice.org and UNO friends, I am pleased to announce that a sponsor, who is preferring to stay anonymous, is supporting us to do the next step in modulizing the OpenOffice.org office suite and to make its component model available independently. That means, that we are going to factor out the highly requested Thanks a lot for that great news and to this kind anonymous sponsor :) I'm announcing it to the french dev@ mailing list. Kind regards Sophie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 08/06/2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev] Ooo_1.9.104_LinuxIntel_langpack_fr.sh avec Mdk10.1
Hi all, Sorry for the French message, I'm pointing Jacques to the right list. Jacques : il faut ajouter fr.openoffice.org dans l'adresse, sinon tu arrives sur la liste de dev anglaise donc dev@fr.openoffice.org :) A bientôt Kind regards Sophie Jacques Masquilier wrote: Salut à tous J'ai voulu installer les rpm de la 1.9.104 avec le script shell sous Mandrake10.1: # sh Ooo_1.9.104_LinuxIntel_langpack_fr.sh Unpacking and installing... openofficeorg-fr-res-1.9.104-1.i586.rpm openofficeorg-fr-1.9.104-1.i586.rpm openofficeorg-fr-help-1.9.104-1.i586.rpm rpm: les arguments de --prefix doivent commencer par un / rpm: les arguments de --prefix doivent commencer par un / rpm: les arguments de --prefix doivent commencer par un / Done... J'ai vérifié avec le gestionnaire de paquetages; apparemment ces trois rpm ne sont pas installés. Tous les menus et autres fenetres restent en anglais. Quelqu'un sait il ce que veulent dire les informations retournées et surtout comment y remédier pour installer les rpm? Cordialement Jacques - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 22/05/2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[dev] Upgrade from 1.1.5 to 2.0
Hi, Will there be a possibility to upgrade from 1.1.5 to 2.0 for a network installation under Windows? Will 1.1.5 be available by the end of february or will it be later ? This two questions in order to know what is the best choice to do for a large migration. TIA Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
