Re: [dev] How to integrate Javamail for MailMerge.
Tino Rachui - Sun Germany - Development - Software Engineer wrote: Tino Rachui - Sun Germany - Development - Software Engineer wrote: The specification is wrong as well I will take care to correct it FYI: i49957 Done, specification changed. The description on the second page of the Mail Merge wizard will probably be changed as well for OOo 2.0.1. Kind regards, Tino - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev] How to integrate Javamail for MailMerge.
G. Roderick Singleton wrote: First apologies for the cross posts. The reply-to header points to documentation for ease of collecting the information. Help is needed on how to add javamail for mail merges in OOo 2.0 to the setup guide. Please add a step-by-step to http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=37513 so this information can be integrated. OOo 2.0 doesn't support sending mail merges via email out of the box this is a StarOffice feature. Just installing Javamail as the description on the second page of the mail merge wizard suggestes is not enough. The description is a little bit unfortunate in this respect. Sorry for that. Necessary in order to enable the email support for mail merge is to create and register a service (MailServiceProvider) implementing a couple of specific interfaces (XMailServiceProvider, etc). BTW: Nobody is required to use Javamail for implementing such a service. Kind regards, Tino - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev] How to integrate Javamail for MailMerge.
Peter Eberlein wrote: you can install the javamail correctly, but you can't use it. Even if you copy the files from the staroffice 8 Beta (email.jar and *.xcu IIRC) to your OpenOffice, it will not work as long as SUN blocks. Please take a look at the issues 44253 and 11244, I think is anyhow naturally and ligitimate that there are differentiators between OOo and StarOffice. Immediately blame Sun and call this SUN blocks is an offense in my opinion. The interfaces for implementing a mail service for email merge are open and not closed source so everybody is allowed and encouraged to implement such a service. Fell free to take over the responsibility to do it for OOo and the community (see my reply to Roderick for more information or just ask me for details). I acknowledge that the description on the second page of the mail merge wizard is a little bit misleading but this is rather a bug. Kind regards, Tino - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev] How to integrate Javamail for MailMerge.
Hi Peter, PETER EBERLEIN wrote: naturally it is legitim for selling reasons to implement the com.sun.star.Mail.MailserviceProvider - Service only for StarOffice. But *that* is the reason, why it not works and not the JavaMail. Yes as I said, the description on the mail merge wizard is plain wrong this is a bug. Can you take a look at the specs-doc please (toc 4.2), the programmers have to follow: 1.For sending out merged document *OpenOffice.org* uses the Java Mail API [1]. The JavaMail API provides a platform-independent and protocol-independent framework to build mail and messaging applications. The JavaMail API is implemented as a Java platform optional package and is also available as part of the Java 2 platform, Enterprise Edition. Due to the fact that OpenOffice.org is not bundled by default with Java or Java Enterprise Edition features, users have to assure that Java is install and the Java Mail API is also available. This belongs not to StarOffice. StarOffice will provide the needed APIs and Java, so that a working system is assured for this product. The specification is wrong as well I will take care to correct it This makes the users believe, that it would work, if JavaMail is installed and configured. I think an end user (if this is meant) will rarely see a specification for OOo and so may not be confused by one. Developer, documentation, etc. might of course be disoriented and that's why the specification has to be clarified. On the German list we were also told that because of license reasons this feature was not implemented into OpenOffice (contact Elizabeth about that). Even the decision to use Javamail to realize the email connection and with it releated license issues lead to the current state that's true. But that should not serve as an excuse or pretense for ommiting the feature in OOo. Commercial aspects played a role as well and that's absolutely ligitimate in my personal opinion. Sun is not hampering anybody to implement an appropriate service for the email connection using whatever technology in the background - the interfaces are open. That's not correct and frustrating. You are the first one who made a statement about the commercial background. Thanks for clearing it. And with a correct statement at the right time SUN can avoid offenses (issue 11244 is not a new one). It's surely not intended by Sun to confuse the OOo community. Even at Sun there are working people who are not free from making errors from time to time ;-) Kind regards, Tino - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev] How to integrate Javamail for MailMerge.
PETER EBERLEIN wrote: On the German list we were also told that because of license reasons this feature was not implemented into OpenOffice (contact Elizabeth about that). In general, if a feature exists in StarOffice and NOT in OpenOffice, it is because another product was purchased/licensed for use in StarOffice. A licensed/purchased product can in general not be released with OpenOffice. Another excellent example of this is the regular expressions. Initially, OpenOffice did not support regular expressions until an open solution was created. The most likely reason that an off the shelf solution is used has to do with time. There was not time for Sun to develop and release the required components, so they laid the infrastructure and then purchased a product to fill in the gaps. In time, I anticipate that the gaps will be filled with an open source solution, which will probalby then be integrated back into StarOffice as well. Just a prediction. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.sxw My Macro Book: http://www.hentzenwerke.com/catalog/oome.htm Free Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev] How to integrate Javamail for MailMerge.
Hi Roderick, you can install the javamail correctly, but you can't use it. Even if you copy the files from the staroffice 8 Beta (email.jar and *.xcu IIRC) to your OpenOffice, it will not work as long as SUN blocks. Please take a look at the issues 44253 and 11244, Regards Peter G. Roderick Singleton schrieb: First apologies for the cross posts. The reply-to header points to documentation for ease of collecting the information. Help is needed on how to add javamail for mail merges in OOo 2.0 to the setup guide. Please add a step-by-step to http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=37513 so this information can be integrated. Other bits of the guide also need instructions. For example, installing under Solaris, Gentoo, BSD et cetera. For the most part what is there is guesses on my part and those reviewing. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
