[OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.21.0

[Paul Norman via dev]

Dear all,

Today, v4.21.0 of the OpenStreetMap Carto stylesheet (the default
stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed
on the openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles
show the new rendering.

Changes include
- Removed unused world_boundaries-spherical.tgz file from scripts

- Switch to osmdata.openstreetmap.de for water & icesheet shapefiles

- Started using ST_PointOnSurface for some label placements

- Adjusted index for military areas

- Adjusted starting zooms for labeling of administrative areas.

- Revert rendering of healthcare key

- Stop place some place labels when the objects become too big or at 
high zooms.


- Only render capes as points and render them like other points.

- Only render ferry lines from ways, not relations

- Improved developer internal documentation



Thanks to all the contributors for this release including Nakaner, a new 
contributor.


For a full list of commits, see
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/compare/v4.20.0...v4.21.0

As always, we welcome any bug reports at
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues


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[OSM-dev] Feedback on project idea

[HWANG, MICHAEL (MICHAEL)]

Hello

I'm looking for feedback/interest in a new open source software project idea.  
This project is intended to address the problem of systematically combining 
private geo-spatial datasets with OSM data.  There can be overlap (in terms of 
objects) between the private geo-spatial datasets and with OSM and the 
project's goal is to de-duplicate and to merge all objects together to produce 
a new single, consistent, more complete dataset.  The reason why this is needed 
is that organizations have private datasets that will take time/never be pushed 
into OSM.  The thought is that if there was a platform that could facilitate 
this merge process then organizations could better make use of OSM and would 
also be in more of a position to contribute data back to OSM (the platform 
could output the resulting dataset as a series of changesets).

At a high level, the platform would provide an API to ingest datasets and an 
API to define the specification needed to define the target layer to do 
processing.  This specification per layer would define:

(1) how to extract the layer from OSM
(2) how to do validation of the private datasets
(3) how to do deduping
(4) how to do the merge

Note that the above elements of the specification are all user defined 
particularly note deduping and merge algorithm.  They are user defined and 
defined per layer.

There would be an output API where clients could extract the resulting combined 
dataset of a given layer.

A concrete example use case would be combining the building footprints released 
by Microsoft with buildings in OSM.  The output would be the deduped superset 
of the two.

Would the OSM community be receptive to this sort of project and be open for 
collaboration?  If this is not the proper forum to ask, please let me know 
where else I can go to ask.

Thank you!

Mike
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Re: [OSM-dev] osm.org groups

[Дмитрий Киселев]

Can someone restore the branch?
https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/297

ср, 1 мая 2019 г. в 09:52, Дмитрий Киселев :

> Hi Richard,
>
> hmm I've got an impression that previous pull wasn't accepted because
> there wasn't
> a common sense that we want this functionality.
>
> Great that I'm wrong. I'll take a look on old pull request.
>
> ср, 1 мая 2019 г. в 09:45, Richard Fairhurst :
>
>> Дмитрий Киселев wrote:
>> > But if i just do that and send a pull request, chances that it will
>> > be rejected as the previous one, are quite high.
>>
>> The previous one wasn't rejected - it just went stale because no-one was
>> able to finish it (personally I remember getting stuck on pagination), and
>> the osm.org codebase inevitably diverged sufficiently that it'd be hard
>> to
>> re-integrate it.
>>
>> There's still lots of enthusiasm for having groups on osm.org. Feel free
>> to
>> drop in on IRC (#osm on OFTC), or here or wherever, if you'd like to talk
>> through how it could work.
>>
>> cheers
>> Richard
>>
>>
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Re: [OSM-dev] osm.org groups

[Дмитрий Киселев]

Hi Richard,

hmm I've got an impression that previous pull wasn't accepted because there
wasn't
a common sense that we want this functionality.

Great that I'm wrong. I'll take a look on old pull request.

ср, 1 мая 2019 г. в 09:45, Richard Fairhurst :

> Дмитрий Киселев wrote:
> > But if i just do that and send a pull request, chances that it will
> > be rejected as the previous one, are quite high.
>
> The previous one wasn't rejected - it just went stale because no-one was
> able to finish it (personally I remember getting stuck on pagination), and
> the osm.org codebase inevitably diverged sufficiently that it'd be hard to
> re-integrate it.
>
> There's still lots of enthusiasm for having groups on osm.org. Feel free
> to
> drop in on IRC (#osm on OFTC), or here or wherever, if you'd like to talk
> through how it could work.
>
> cheers
> Richard
>
>
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Re: [OSM-dev] osm.org groups

[Richard Fairhurst]

Дмитрий Киселев wrote:
> But if i just do that and send a pull request, chances that it will 
> be rejected as the previous one, are quite high.

The previous one wasn't rejected - it just went stale because no-one was
able to finish it (personally I remember getting stuck on pagination), and
the osm.org codebase inevitably diverged sufficiently that it'd be hard to
re-integrate it.

There's still lots of enthusiasm for having groups on osm.org. Feel free to
drop in on IRC (#osm on OFTC), or here or wherever, if you'd like to talk
through how it could work.

cheers
Richard



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Re: [OSM-dev] osm.org groups

[Дмитрий Киселев]

Hi Simon,

the development itself is not a can work on that in my spare time, and i
think others.

But if i just do that and send a pull request, chances that it will be
rejected as the previous one, are quite high.

There are not so many devs who are willing to participate, but if the work
goes in vain - it's zero.

That's why i want to discuss how we want groups to work before any
development.

I can create an issue and do that there, if github issues discussions works
better.

Ср, 1 мая 2019, 7:21 Simon Poole :

> See https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/297
>
> Unluckily nobody has been motivated enough to do this on their own time,
> and the OSMF has been steadfastly ignoring any suggestions to undertake any
> effort to improve the website by spending money.
>
> With other words: holding your breath for this feature is not recommend.
>
> Simon
> Am 30.04.2019 um 22:48 schrieb Svetlana Tkachenko:
>
> Hi Dmitry
>
> Perhaps these features can be useful for the Libreplanet wiki as well.
>
> Svetlana
>
> Дмитрий Киселев  wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
> I know that making a good working groups is hard and only facebook succeed
> in that, and that's why we don't have any way to group users or friends at
> osm.org
>
> But can we have at lest something, maybe not so great as slack or fb,
> but anything to group contacts in friends list and create some sort of
> local mailing list or group discussions?
>
> I'm living in a third city since I've start to edit OSM so there are local
> friends in my list, friends from the places where I used to live before,
> some of the contacts from conferences all in one list.
>
> I'm trying to get in touch with local mappers around me, and writing 30+
> letters to invite people the meetup is quite cumbersome.
>
> So as a first step, can we create some way of grouping friends in a
> contact list?
> As a second step, can we discuss how to invite a group of people to
> discuss something all together without third party tools?
>
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Re: [OSM-dev] osm.org groups

[Simon Poole]

See https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/297

Unluckily nobody has been motivated enough to do this on their own time,
and the OSMF has been steadfastly ignoring any suggestions to undertake
any effort to improve the website by spending money.

With other words: holding your breath for this feature is not recommend.

Simon

Am 30.04.2019 um 22:48 schrieb Svetlana Tkachenko:
> Hi Dmitry
>
> Perhaps these features can be useful for the Libreplanet wiki as well.
>
> Svetlana
>
> Дмитрий Киселев  > wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> I know that making a good working groups is hard and only facebook
>> succeed in that, and that's why we don't have any way to group users
>> or friends at osm.org 
>>
>> But can we have at lest something, maybe not so great as slack or fb, 
>> but anything to group contacts in friends list and create some sort of 
>> local mailing list or group discussions?
>>
>> I'm living in a third city since I've start to edit OSM so there are
>> local friends in my list, friends from the places where I used to
>> live before, some of the contacts from conferences all in one list. 
>>
>> I'm trying to get in touch with local mappers around me, and writing
>> 30+ letters to invite people the meetup is quite cumbersome.
>>
>> So as a first step, can we create some way of grouping friends in a
>> contact list?
>> As a second step, can we discuss how to invite a group of people to
>> discuss something all together without third party tools?
>>
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