Re: [OSM-dev] multipolygon relation and non-closed ways
Well, I care about the mapper who is interested in an agreed final result and doesn't want to spend his time reading the opinion of individual persons. Just for this there's a talk page for each wiki page. When interested you can subscribe to the talk page separately. If the talk page isn't enough additional pages can be easily created. Willi On Monday, October 15, 2012 10:43 AM Pedro Larroy [mailto:pedro.larroy.li...@gmail.com] wrote: Hi Willi. Sorry to read your negative opinion. I think a better and more detailed wiki page helps osm, irrespectively of edit history. I don't see why editing and refining a page is bad. Sure things can always be done better, but the beauty of wikis is that you can update them fast without going through a comitee. Regards. On Oct 14, 2012 4:39 AM, Willi wil...@gmx.de wrote: Imho it's not only bad behavior to change a wiki page 19 times on the same day it's harming OSM. Having the discussion on the OSM-dev list makes this even worse. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Relation:multipolygonaction =history All changes except minor should be discussed on the Talk page first. Even if you are the expert and are 200% sure that what you are writing is correct it might be misleading or even not understandable to non experts. And imho that's just the case for the new additions. Asking to be involved in discussions but changing the page without discussion is topping this. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Relation:multipolygon#Recent_change_ about_validity_of_a_multipolygon_relation I'm afraid more mapper will turn away from Wiki pages when they neither can follow nor understand such frequent changes. That's harming OSM. Willi ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] multipolygon relation and non-closed ways
On Sunday, October 14, 2012 8:52 PM sly (sylvain letuffe) [mailto:li...@letuffe.org] wrote: What about starting here, to reach GIS aware people, then present the final idea on talk (backed up by definition ranging from clear mathish un- understandable by common people definition to clear examples with graphics) ? Good idea. And also the drafts for discussion on a separate wiki page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:multipolygon/validity I'm looking forward to read and comment the final result. Willi ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] multipolygon relation and non-closed ways
Imho it's not only bad behavior to change a wiki page 19 times on the same day it's harming OSM. Having the discussion on the OSM-dev list makes this even worse. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Relation:multipolygonaction =history All changes except minor should be discussed on the Talk page first. Even if you are the expert and are 200% sure that what you are writing is correct it might be misleading or even not understandable to non experts. And imho that's just the case for the new additions. Asking to be involved in discussions but changing the page without discussion is topping this. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Relation:multipolygon#Recent_change_ about_validity_of_a_multipolygon_relation I'm afraid more mapper will turn away from Wiki pages when they neither can follow nor understand such frequent changes. That's harming OSM. Willi ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [josm-dev] JOSM donations?
A new OSM member and already JOSM fan http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=13420. I'm sure there are a lot of them far outdating the disgruntled. Willi On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Dirk Stöcker openstreet...@dstoecker.dewrote: Sometimes I'm very discouraged to care for JOSM and I'm not sure if it is really worth the effort anymore. Each and every time something new is introduced or something is changed you get unacceptable comments and flames. Sometimes this can get too much even for me. On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Willi [wil...@gmx.de] wrote: Unfortunately it's a matter of fact that angry people tend to make much noise while happy people tend to be calm. I'm one of these happy people, who I assume are by far the majority. Being retired I've the time to enjoy this great tool almost every day for several hours. I like it more and more. And the many continuous improvements and enhancements allow me to contribute more and more data. Thanks a lot. Willi ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] License change plugin
Frederik Ramm [mailto:frede...@remote.org] wrote at 2. July 2011 23:11 Maybe we should just rename stuff in the interface then: red = first version created by non-agreeing user, orange = first version created by undecided user, yellow = later version created by non-agreeing or undecided user ? Imho the plugin should only report simply the facts as long as there's no definitive decision from the licence working group, e.g.: Green: all versions by users who agreed already. Red: all versions by disagreeing users and users who didn't vote yet. Yellow: all other cases. It's up to the individual mapper to look at further details and act. Willi ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] mappaint.nameOrder=name:en name doesn't work anymore
I used the JOSM setting mappaint.nameOrder=name:en name to get the English
name if available otherwise the local Thai name e.g. for this area
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.36062
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.36062lon=102.80124zoom=14
lon=102.80124zoom=14
Unfortunately this seems not to work anymore. With the above settings no names
are painted. Without this setting I get the local Thai name first.
How can I achieve the old behavior: English name first?
I’ve attached a JOSM status report.
Regards
Willi
Repository Root: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/svn
Build-Date: 2011-04-07 01:31:44
Last Changed Author: bastiK
Revision: 4018
Repository UUID: 0c6e7542-c601-0410-84e7-c038aed88b3b
URL: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/svn/trunk
Last Changed Date: 2011-04-06 19:09:47 +0200 (Wed, 06 Apr 2011)
Last Changed Rev: 4018
Identification: JOSM/1.5 (4018 de)
Memory Usage: 49 MB / 989 MB (19 MB allocated, but free)
Java version: 1.6.0_24, Sun Microsystems Inc., Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
Operating system: Windows 7
Dataset consistency test: No problems found
cache.motd.html=1302310330
cache.motd.html.lang=De:
cache.motd.html.version=4018
coordinates=DECIMAL_DEGREES
gui.geometry=840x1010+840+0
gui.maximized=false
imagery.fade_amount=0
imagery.layers.default=http://onearth.jpl.nasa.gov/wms.cgi?request=GetMaplayers=global_mosaicstyles=format=image/jpeg‑http://irs.gis-lab.info/?layers=landsat‑bing:bing‑html:http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wmsplugin/YahooDirect.html?‑tms:http://oatile1.mqcdn.com/naip/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png‑tms:http://tile.openstreetmap.org/
josm.version=4018
lastDirectory=D:\OSM\Aktiv
mappaint.fontsize=12
mappaint.nameOrder=name:en name
mappaint.style.known-defaults=resource://styles/standard/elemstyles.xml‑resource://styles/standard/potlatch2.mapcss
mappaint.style.sources-list.0=resource://styles/standard/elemstyles.xml‑standard‑JOSM-interner
Stil‑true
mappaint.style.sources-list.1=resource://styles/standard/potlatch2.mapcss‑standard‑Potlatch
2‑false
mapstyle.visible=true
marker.audiofromstart=false
marker.buttonlabels=false
mirror.http://josm.openstreetmap.de/maps=1302310338586;C:\Users\Willi\AppData\Roaming\JOSM\mirror_http___josm.openstreetmap.de_maps
org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.preferences.PreferenceDialog.geometry=x=490,y=125,width=700,height=800
progressdialog.size=840
proxy.policy=no-proxy
shortcut.groups.1=128
shortcut.groups.10=64
shortcut.groups.11=576
shortcut.groups.12=64
shortcut.groups.13=512
shortcut.groups.15=640
shortcut.groups.16=640
shortcut.groups.17=576
shortcut.groups.18=512
shortcut.groups.19=128
shortcut.groups.2=128
shortcut.groups.20=512
shortcut.groups.3=0
shortcut.groups.4=512
shortcut.groups.5=0
shortcut.groups.6=512
shortcut.groups.8=192
shortcut.groups.9=192
shortcut.groups.configured=true
taggingpreset.sources-list.0=resource://data/defaultpresets.xml‑Interne
Objektvorlage
toolbar=open‑save‑download‑upload‑|‑undo‑redo‑|‑dialogs/search(searchExpression=)‑preference‑|‑splitway‑combineway‑wayflip‑|‑imagery-offset‑|‑tagginggroup_Highways/Streets‑tagginggroup_Highways/Ways‑tagginggroup_Highways/Waypoints‑tagginggroup_Highways/Barriers‑|‑tagginggroup_Transport/Car‑tagginggroup_Transport/Public
Transport‑|‑|‑|
validator.tests=Coastlines=true,MultipolygonTest=true,SimilarNamedWays=true,UntaggedNode=true,RelationChecker=true,CrossingWays=true,NodesWithSameName=true,TagChecker=true,OverlappingWays=true,UnclosedWays=true,WronglyOrderedWays=true,UnconnectedWays=true,SelfIntersectingWay=true,DuplicatedWayNodes=true,NameMismatch=true,DuplicateWay=true,UntaggedWay=true,TurnrestrictionTest=true,DuplicateNode=true
validator.testsBeforeUpload=Coastlines=true,MultipolygonTest=true,SimilarNamedWays=true,UntaggedNode=true,RelationChecker=true,CrossingWays=true,NodesWithSameName=true,TagChecker=true,OverlappingWays=true,UnclosedWays=true,WronglyOrderedWays=true,UnconnectedWays=true,SelfIntersectingWay=true,DuplicatedWayNodes=true,NameMismatch=true,DuplicateWay=true,UntaggedWay=true,TurnrestrictionTest=true,DuplicateNode=true
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[OSM-dev] JOSM GPX export doesn't export the names of nodes
JOSM GPX export converts the name of the way to name of the track but not the names of the nodes to names of the trackpoints. Is there a variable in the settings to change this or should I write a ticket to ask for an enhancement? Willi ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [josm-dev] Using locally stored tiles with JOSM Imagery
Thanks for the immediate help. I didn't think that it's that simple. Adding tms:file:///D:/OSM/osm_then in the URL field and 19 in the Zoom field did the job. I would like to add this to the Wiki. Please let me know to which page it should go. On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:38 Dirk Stöcker [openstreet...@dstoecker.de] wrote: I think it should be possible to provide a file:/// link instead of http:-link. At least it is worth a try. Note that some tools use file:/C:..., others use file:///C: So you need to experiment a bit. Probably the \ must be expressed as /. See also Maps-page in wiki how the urls must look like. If you get it to work probably add a short chapter at the Maps page, so other users also know how to do. On Sat, 22 Jan 2011, Willi wrote: For OSMtracker I'm dowloading and storing locally tiles with JTileDowmloader from OpenStreetMap http://www.openstreetmap.org/ and Thaimap http://thaimap.osm-tools.org. They are stored in a directory structure: \Zoom\X\Y.png (Windows). It would be great if I could use them not only with OSMtracker on my mobile but also with JOSM Imagery when I'm out to collect data with JOSM livegps and surveyor on my netbook. Is this possible and how can I do that? ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] Imagery problem with zoom 19
The bilingual Thai-English map osm-then provides tiles up to zoom level 19, e.g. http://thaimap.osm-tools.org/?zoom=19lat=16.43018lon=102.8318layers=B00. But when I increase the zoom level in JOSM Imagery I get the console message current zoom lvl (18) couldnt be increased. MaxZoomLvl (18) reached. I've appended more details. Am I doing something wrong or is this a bug? Willi * I did the following: Start JOSM. Add name osm-then and URL tms:http://tile.osm-tools.org/osm_then; in settings / WMSTMS. Download http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.4295lon=102.8318zoom=18layers=M;. Select Imagery / osm-then. Right-click on the image. Click Increase zoom. Messages on console: GET http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/map?bbox=102.8311133999,16.4291567, 102.8324866,16.42984329998 clicked on tile: 205951 118940 currentZoomLevel: 18 current zoom lvl (18) couldnt be increased. MaxZoomLvl (18) reached. JOSM status report says: Repository Root: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/svn Build-Date: 2011-01-21 07:37:34 Last Changed Author: framm Revision: 3793 Repository UUID: 0c6e7542-c601-0410-84e7-c038aed88b3b URL: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/svn/trunk Last Changed Date: 2011-01-21 08:35:14 +0100 (Fri, 21 Jan 2011) Last Changed Rev: 3793 Identification: JOSM/1.5 (3793 de) Memory Usage: 222 MB / 989 MB (40 MB allocated, but free) Java version: 1.6.0_23, Sun Microsystems Inc., Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM Operating system: Windows 7 Dataset consistency test: No problems found Plugin: PicLayer (24308) Plugin: livegps (21706) Plugin: measurement (22547) Plugin: photo_geotagging (24928) Plugin: surveyor (21706) Plugin: undelete (24905) ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] Using locally stored tiles with JOSM Imagery
For OSMtracker I'm dowloading and storing locally tiles with JTileDowmloader from OpenStreetMap http://www.openstreetmap.org/ and Thaimap http://thaimap.osm-tools.org. They are stored in a directory structure: \Zoom\X\Y.png (Windows). It would be great if I could use them not only with OSMtracker on my mobile but also with JOSM Imagery when I'm out to collect data with JOSM livegps and surveyor on my netbook. Is this possible and how can I do that? Willi ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Imagery problem with zoom 19
Thanks for your immediate help. Problem solved. And also thanks a lot for this great tool. In the Settings tab max zoom is set to 25. In the Providers tab the field zoom was empty for all providers. I entered 20 for osm-then, closed settings with OK and restarted JOSM to be sure, it works now. I'm wondering a little bit because with Bing Sat I can increase the zoom level over 18 despite the zoom field for provider Bing Sat is empty. -Original Message- From: Andrew Harvey [mailto:andrew.harv...@gmail.com] Sent: Samstag, 22. Januar 2011 17:49 To: Willi Cc: josm-dev@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [josm-dev] Imagery problem with zoom 19 There are two max zoom levels that can be set, one in the list of Imagery providers tab and the other in the Settings tab, of the WMS TMS page in the josm preferences, are they both set 18? On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Willi wil...@gmx.de wrote: The bilingual Thai-English map osm-then provides tiles up to zoom level 19, e.g. http://thaimap.osm-tools.org/?zoom=19lat=16.43018lon=102.8318layers=B00. But when I increase the zoom level in JOSM Imagery I get the console message current zoom lvl (18) couldnt be increased. MaxZoomLvl (18) reached. I've appended more details. Am I doing something wrong or is this a bug? Willi ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
