Re: [OSM-dev] Tagwatch Editor Counts
more here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editor_usage_stats cheers, matt On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Nick Black nickbla...@gmail.com wrote: Wondered if there had been any update on these numbers from the latest planet? after a christmas hiatus, here's the numbers from the 2010/01/06 planet: editor | num | num_data | num_users -+-+--+--- Potlatch | 2123705 | 1607511 | 60405 JOSM | 2369729 | 2268500 | 13978 Merkaartor | 269419 | 254868 | 2305 Mapzen POI Collector | 4975 | 4901 | 505 Mapzen Beta | 4537 | 3092 | 477 BigTinCan Upload Script | 642 | 537 | 181 iLOE | 2551 | 2355 | 134 osm2go | 1806 | 1740 | 99 Osmose Raw Editor | 1879 | 1013 | 96 bulk_upload | 124159 | 114749 | 66 osmtools | 20108 | 18405 | 64 Vespucci | 1273 | 892 | 62 Mapzen Alpha | 666 | 370 | 37 andnav | 432 | 394 | 35 QGIS OSM v | 270 | 234 | 32 OpenSeaMap-Editor- | 168 | 155 | 22 PythonOsmApi | 1892 | 1522 | 18 upload | 71282 | 68044 | 14 KMLManager | 34886 | 34626 | 9 GpsMid_ | 246 | 200 | 7 cheers, matt ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Tagwatch Editor Counts
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Nick Black nickbla...@gmail.com wrote: Wondered if there had been any update on these numbers from the latest planet? after a christmas hiatus, here's the numbers from the 2010/01/06 planet: editor | num | num_data | num_users -+-+--+--- Potlatch| 2123705 | 1607511 | 60405 JOSM| 2369729 | 2268500 | 13978 Merkaartor | 269419 | 254868 | 2305 Mapzen POI Collector|4975 | 4901 | 505 Mapzen Beta |4537 | 3092 | 477 BigTinCan Upload Script | 642 | 537 | 181 iLOE|2551 | 2355 | 134 osm2go |1806 | 1740 |99 Osmose Raw Editor |1879 | 1013 |96 bulk_upload | 124159 | 114749 |66 osmtools| 20108 |18405 |64 Vespucci|1273 | 892 |62 Mapzen Alpha| 666 | 370 |37 andnav | 432 | 394 |35 QGIS OSM v | 270 | 234 |32 OpenSeaMap-Editor- | 168 | 155 |22 PythonOsmApi|1892 | 1522 |18 upload | 71282 |68044 |14 KMLManager | 34886 |34626 | 9 GpsMid_ | 246 | 200 | 7 cheers, matt ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Tagwatch Editor Counts
Hi Guys, Wondered if there had been any update on these numbers from the latest planet? -- Nick On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:42 AM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, 2009/12/5 Nick Black nickbla...@gmail.com: Interesting data Matt. Getting more users through the one month zone would have a big impact on OSM. If anyone's interested, Mapzen POI Collecter has had 1,108 downloads since it launched, which accounts for roughly 0.6% of the OSM user base. I would guess that 10% - 20% of the OSM user base have iPhones. For editor developers, it would be really useful to know what proportion of the OSM user base have what kind of mobile devices and more importantly what their intentions are for their next device. The Mapzen tools are aimed at mappers who are not well served by current tools. If I knew that, for example, 10%-20% of OSMers who weren't already using Vespucci were intended to buy Android devices in the next few months, we would definitely release an Android version of Mapzen POI Collector. On the other hand, if the single biggest base of OSM users have iPhones, a Mapzen address adding tool is more likely. My guess is Android and webOS (the Palm's latest thing) are going to be getting a lot of traction in near future so it's always good to make sure your program works there. webOS especially because it's new and there aren't so many apps for it yet. My personal opinion is that it's a great pity that the fourth editor in number of users is a closed-source one, just shows that people care little about their freedom even in a project like this. Maybe they're tricked into assuming that every piece of software that has to do with OSM is free as in freedom, although the Download ... for free button on Mapzen's website gives it away immediately. Cheers -- -- Nick Black twitter.com/nick_b ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Tagwatch Editor Counts
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Nick Black nickbla...@gmail.com wrote: Wondered if there had been any update on these numbers from the latest planet? these are the numbers from today's planet: editor | num | num_data | num_users -+-+--+--- Potlatch| 1029797 | 775495 | 57637 JOSM| 1139962 | 1090173 | 13282 Merkaartor | 129510 | 122438 | 2160 Mapzen POI Collector|2124 | 2088 | 389 Mapzen Beta |1261 | 821 | 271 BigTinCan Upload Script | 293 | 242 | 143 iLOE|1202 | 1106 | 117 osm2go | 903 | 870 |99 Osmose Raw Editor | 813 | 399 |85 bulk_upload | 61908 |57209 |64 osmtools|8951 | 8614 |59 Vespucci| 614 | 426 |52 Mapzen Alpha| 333 | 185 |37 andnav | 214 | 195 |33 QGIS OSM v | 128 | 110 |28 PythonOsmApi| 946 | 761 |18 upload | 35585 |33968 |14 OpenSeaMap-Editor- | 66 | 60 |11 KMLManager | 17443 |17313 | 9 GpsMid_ | 123 | 100 | 7 impressive gains for mapzen POI collector, up 150 users over two weeks. potlatch is up 1,696, but that's only +2.9% whereas mapzen's gain is +38.6%. the most impressive fractional gain is mapzen beta, by +76%. cheers, matt ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Tagwatch Editor Counts
for JOSM: lang | num | num_users ---++--- de| 491078 | 6457 en| 240905 | 3086 | 76081 | 2704 fr| 91720 | 919 en_GB | 55408 | 852 ru| 45467 | 527 it| 34936 | 357 es| 21888 | 248 nl| 10850 | 177 fi| 18956 | 159 sv| 8482 | 149 cs| 12716 | 144 pl| 7006 | 126 ja| 9313 |66 da| 3892 |63 sk| 3120 |42 nb| 1047 |35 pt|583 |23 ro|994 |23 bg| 1762 |13 for potlatch: lang | num | num_users ---++--- | 800309 | 46679 en| 109151 | 8023 de| 63330 | 4901 fr| 11479 | 981 ru| 10075 | 732 es| 5274 | 549 it| 7374 | 523 nl| 6520 | 347 pl| 1733 | 226 sv| 3447 | 155 pt-BR |989 | 152 fi| 1410 | 105 no| 1763 |84 cs|505 |82 ja| 1242 |80 da| 2261 |77 hu|382 |67 ro| 1041 |59 pt|163 |29 tr| 88 |26 not sure what the null language results are - presumably at some point the editors weren't putting a language in their changeset comments or something? cheers, matt On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 20:09, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote: as a massive self-plug, here's a more in-depth look at some of the editor data. unfortunately, there isn't enough data to do this for any editor other than the big three, but hopefully in six months time... This looks nice. It's certainly a lot better than my ad-hoc statistics I posted in september: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-September/042902.html One thing that I missed about your stats though is language statistics like the ones I posted (but done better with fancy graphs, obviousl :). Since I posted my stats I've added information about the user language to Potlatch (previously only JOSM had them), but unfortunately it looks like the Merkaartor people have ignored my request of adding it to their created_by string. It would be really cool to see statistics per-editor and per-language presented in such a way that one could gauge whether an editor being localized had an effect on its update. I recently found out for example that the Potlatch translation into Italian was really incomplete while JOSM was almost 100% translated into Italian (and JOSM has like 4000 strings while Potlatch has around 300). I contacted some Italian translators about this and Potlatch now has a much better Italian translation. Perhaps some Italians where shunning Potlatch because of this, it would be interesting to see stats to confirm or disprove that. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Tagwatch Editor Counts
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 18:58, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for those language stats, they were very informative. not sure what the null language results are - presumably at some point the editors weren't putting a language in their changeset comments or something? No, I only added it recently to Potlatch and it looks like JOSM hasn't had it always either. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Tagwatch Editor Counts
Hi, 2009/12/5 Nick Black nickbla...@gmail.com: Interesting data Matt. Getting more users through the one month zone would have a big impact on OSM. If anyone's interested, Mapzen POI Collecter has had 1,108 downloads since it launched, which accounts for roughly 0.6% of the OSM user base. I would guess that 10% - 20% of the OSM user base have iPhones. For editor developers, it would be really useful to know what proportion of the OSM user base have what kind of mobile devices and more importantly what their intentions are for their next device. The Mapzen tools are aimed at mappers who are not well served by current tools. If I knew that, for example, 10%-20% of OSMers who weren't already using Vespucci were intended to buy Android devices in the next few months, we would definitely release an Android version of Mapzen POI Collector. On the other hand, if the single biggest base of OSM users have iPhones, a Mapzen address adding tool is more likely. My guess is Android and webOS (the Palm's latest thing) are going to be getting a lot of traction in near future so it's always good to make sure your program works there. webOS especially because it's new and there aren't so many apps for it yet. My personal opinion is that it's a great pity that the fourth editor in number of users is a closed-source one, just shows that people care little about their freedom even in a project like this. Maybe they're tricked into assuming that every piece of software that has to do with OSM is free as in freedom, although the Download ... for free button on Mapzen's website gives it away immediately. Cheers ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Tagwatch Editor Counts
On 4 Dec 2009, at 17:50, John Smith wrote: 2009/12/5 Nick Black nickbla...@gmail.com: Thanks for the update Matt. As this is changeset based, this means that Mapzen POI Collector is the fourth most used OSM editor ever, since changesets were introduced? The order is by numbers of users, not number of uses. +1 Nick, a better (possibly pedantic) way would be that Mapzen POI Collector has had the 4th greatest reach (number of users) since each of the editors started putting the created_by tags on the changesets, rather than the nodes, ways and relations. This was done at different times for each editor, and then some users may still be using an old enough editor that it may still not be happening for a handful of users. Shaun ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Tagwatch Editor Counts
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote: On 4 Dec 2009, at 17:50, John Smith wrote: 2009/12/5 Nick Black nickbla...@gmail.com: Thanks for the update Matt. As this is changeset based, this means that Mapzen POI Collector is the fourth most used OSM editor ever, since changesets were introduced? The order is by numbers of users, not number of uses. +1 yeah, i think it's fair to say that Mapzen POI collector is the fourth most popular OSM editor over the last 6 months. as a massive self-plug, here's a more in-depth look at some of the editor data. unfortunately, there isn't enough data to do this for any editor other than the big three, but hopefully in six months time... http://www.asklater.com/matt/wordpress/2009/12/editor-retention/ cheers, matt ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Tagwatch Editor Counts
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 20:09, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote: as a massive self-plug, here's a more in-depth look at some of the editor data. unfortunately, there isn't enough data to do this for any editor other than the big three, but hopefully in six months time... This looks nice. It's certainly a lot better than my ad-hoc statistics I posted in september: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-September/042902.html One thing that I missed about your stats though is language statistics like the ones I posted (but done better with fancy graphs, obviousl :). Since I posted my stats I've added information about the user language to Potlatch (previously only JOSM had them), but unfortunately it looks like the Merkaartor people have ignored my request of adding it to their created_by string. It would be really cool to see statistics per-editor and per-language presented in such a way that one could gauge whether an editor being localized had an effect on its update. I recently found out for example that the Potlatch translation into Italian was really incomplete while JOSM was almost 100% translated into Italian (and JOSM has like 4000 strings while Potlatch has around 300). I contacted some Italian translators about this and Potlatch now has a much better Italian translation. Perhaps some Italians where shunning Potlatch because of this, it would be interesting to see stats to confirm or disprove that. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Tagwatch Editor Counts
Interesting data Matt. Getting more users through the one month zone would have a big impact on OSM. If anyone's interested, Mapzen POI Collecter has had 1,108 downloads since it launched, which accounts for roughly 0.6% of the OSM user base. I would guess that 10% - 20% of the OSM user base have iPhones. For editor developers, it would be really useful to know what proportion of the OSM user base have what kind of mobile devices and more importantly what their intentions are for their next device. The Mapzen tools are aimed at mappers who are not well served by current tools. If I knew that, for example, 10%-20% of OSMers who weren't already using Vespucci were intended to buy Android devices in the next few months, we would definitely release an Android version of Mapzen POI Collector. On the other hand, if the single biggest base of OSM users have iPhones, a Mapzen address adding tool is more likely. It would be great to have some kind of survey that OSMers could volunteer to take part in to answer these questions. -- Nick On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 20:09, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote: as a massive self-plug, here's a more in-depth look at some of the editor data. unfortunately, there isn't enough data to do this for any editor other than the big three, but hopefully in six months time... This looks nice. It's certainly a lot better than my ad-hoc statistics I posted in september: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-September/042902.html One thing that I missed about your stats though is language statistics like the ones I posted (but done better with fancy graphs, obviousl :). Since I posted my stats I've added information about the user language to Potlatch (previously only JOSM had them), but unfortunately it looks like the Merkaartor people have ignored my request of adding it to their created_by string. It would be really cool to see statistics per-editor and per-language presented in such a way that one could gauge whether an editor being localized had an effect on its update. I recently found out for example that the Potlatch translation into Italian was really incomplete while JOSM was almost 100% translated into Italian (and JOSM has like 4000 strings while Potlatch has around 300). I contacted some Italian translators about this and Potlatch now has a much better Italian translation. Perhaps some Italians where shunning Potlatch because of this, it would be interesting to see stats to confirm or disprove that. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Tagwatch Editor Counts
here's the results for wednesday's (2nd) planet dump, again over the history since each editor started adding changeset tags. Mapzen POI collector has gained over 200 users in the past week, adding 636 changesets. well done to the Mapzen team! editor | num | num_data | num_users -+-+--+--- Potlatch| 988916 | 739623 | 55941 JOSM| 1092702 | 1043776 | 12945 Merkaartor | 124756 | 117812 | 2100 Mapzen POI Collector|1374 | 1341 | 239 BigTinCan Upload Script | 266 | 219 | 124 iLOE|1113 | 1019 | 105 osm2go | 901 | 868 |99 Osmose Raw Editor | 756 | 358 |82 Mapzen Beta | 218 | 155 |65 bulk_upload | 60110 |55417 |61 osmtools|8326 | 8021 |57 Vespucci| 558 | 374 |49 Mapzen Alpha| 333 | 185 |37 andnav | 207 | 191 |31 QGIS OSM v | 117 | 100 |24 PythonOsmApi| 937 | 753 |18 upload | 35560 |33959 |14 KMLManager | 17443 |17313 | 9 GpsMid_ | 121 | 98 | 7 OpenSeaMap-Editor- | 41 | 35 | 6 cheers, matt On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, November 29, 2009, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 15:46, Nick Black nickbla...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting data. If there are 190,000 OSM contributors and around 10% of them are active, how come there are 50,000 users using Potlatch on one day? probably that is the total changesets produced with the given editor. not on a single day. 25th is the date of the snapshot. That's right, the numbers are from last week's changeset dump. So it only counts changesets created between then and whenever the editor started writing created_by tags on changesets. About six months or so. Since mapzen wasn't out on the 25th those numbers are low, but I expect they'll pick up on the 2nd. Cheers, Matt ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Tagwatch Editor Counts
Interesting data. If there are 190,000 OSM contributors and around 10% of them are active, how come there are 50,000 users using Potlatch on one day? -- Nick On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 2:18 AM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote: in case anyone is interested, here's the data from the 25th. num is the number of changesets, num_data is those with bboxes, num_users is the number of distinct (public) user ids. of course, this was before mapzen poi collector was released in the app store, so it's not very helpful for that ;-) creator | num | num_data | num_users --+-+--+--- Potlatch | 964387 | 718768 | 54823 JOSM | 1064183 | 1015659 | 12741 Merkaartor | 121672 | 114819 | 2057 BigTinCan Upload Script | 245 | 201 | 109 osm2go | 898 | 865 | 98 iLOE | 940 | 850 | 84 Osmose Raw Editor | 714 | 330 | 78 bulk_upload | 59740 | 55051 | 58 osmtools | 7914 | 7622 | 56 Vespucci | 542 | 359 | 48 Mapzen Alpha | 310 | 164 | 37 andnav | 207 | 191 | 31 Mapzen POI Collector | 738 | 709 | 27 QGIS OSM v | 114 | 98 | 23 PythonOsmApi | 935 | 753 | 18 upload | 35026 | 33431 | 14 KMLManager | 17443 | 17313 | 9 cheers, matt On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote: On 28 Nov 2009, at 13:00, Nick Black wrote: Hi Guys, A few people have been asked if I have any stats on Mapzen POI Collector usage. I took a look at the tagwatch editor page [1] but neither Mapzen Alpha or Mapzen POI Collector in any of its versions appears in the list. Both apps tag the change set [2] rather than the node or way that is created. I'm wondering if this is why there are no stats on the editor's usage in Tagwatch? If this is the case, how can I help update Tagwatch to look at change sets? [1] http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Europe/En/top_used_editors.html [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2996362 It looks like that up until the 26 November there have been less than 783 changesets with the exact editor name that mapzen is using. You can use the changeset info dump to do this analysis. It is available from http://planet.openstreetmap.org/ on a weekly basis. Shaun ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Tagwatch Editor Counts
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 15:46, Nick Black nickbla...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting data. If there are 190,000 OSM contributors and around 10% of them are active, how come there are 50,000 users using Potlatch on one day? probably that is the total changesets produced with the given editor. not on a single day. 25th is the date of the snapshot. -- -S ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Tagwatch Editor Counts
On Sunday, November 29, 2009, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 15:46, Nick Black nickbla...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting data. If there are 190,000 OSM contributors and around 10% of them are active, how come there are 50,000 users using Potlatch on one day? probably that is the total changesets produced with the given editor. not on a single day. 25th is the date of the snapshot. That's right, the numbers are from last week's changeset dump. So it only counts changesets created between then and whenever the editor started writing created_by tags on changesets. About six months or so. Since mapzen wasn't out on the 25th those numbers are low, but I expect they'll pick up on the 2nd. Cheers, Matt ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Tagwatch Editor Counts
Both apps tag the change set [2] rather than the node or way that is created. I'm wondering if this is why there are no stats on the editor's usage in Tagwatch? If this is the case, how can I help update Tagwatch to look at change sets? That is almost certainly the case. Tagwatch uses a Europe extract of the data. Those extracts contain no changeset information as far as I know. You'd have to extend Osmosis to also include changeset information and I suspect that won't be very easy. The other possibility is to use the changeset dumps from http://planet.openstreetmap.org/ and parse those yourself for the data you need but I only have a rough idea how to integrate this into Tagwatch. OSMdoc includes changeset tags because it parses the planet.osm (which has changeset data) but the data is outdated (August) and diffs don't include changesets either (again you'd need to update Osmosis for this). Cheers, Lars ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Tagwatch Editor Counts
in case anyone is interested, here's the data from the 25th. num is the number of changesets, num_data is those with bboxes, num_users is the number of distinct (public) user ids. of course, this was before mapzen poi collector was released in the app store, so it's not very helpful for that ;-) creator | num | num_data | num_users --+-+--+--- Potlatch | 964387 | 718768 | 54823 JOSM | 1064183 | 1015659 | 12741 Merkaartor | 121672 | 114819 | 2057 BigTinCan Upload Script | 245 | 201 | 109 osm2go | 898 | 865 | 98 iLOE | 940 | 850 | 84 Osmose Raw Editor | 714 | 330 | 78 bulk_upload | 59740 | 55051 | 58 osmtools | 7914 | 7622 | 56 Vespucci | 542 | 359 | 48 Mapzen Alpha | 310 | 164 | 37 andnav | 207 | 191 | 31 Mapzen POI Collector | 738 | 709 | 27 QGIS OSM v | 114 | 98 | 23 PythonOsmApi | 935 | 753 | 18 upload | 35026 | 33431 | 14 KMLManager | 17443 | 17313 | 9 cheers, matt On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote: On 28 Nov 2009, at 13:00, Nick Black wrote: Hi Guys, A few people have been asked if I have any stats on Mapzen POI Collector usage. I took a look at the tagwatch editor page [1] but neither Mapzen Alpha or Mapzen POI Collector in any of its versions appears in the list. Both apps tag the change set [2] rather than the node or way that is created. I'm wondering if this is why there are no stats on the editor's usage in Tagwatch? If this is the case, how can I help update Tagwatch to look at change sets? [1] http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Europe/En/top_used_editors.html [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2996362 It looks like that up until the 26 November there have been less than 783 changesets with the exact editor name that mapzen is using. You can use the changeset info dump to do this analysis. It is available from http://planet.openstreetmap.org/ on a weekly basis. Shaun ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev