Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Tomcat 8.5.49

[Mark Thomas]

On 17/11/2019 19:01, Mark Thomas wrote:

> The proposed 8.5.49 release is:
> [ ] Broken - do not release
> [X] Stable - go ahead and release as 8.5.49

Unit tests pass for NIO, NIO2 and APR/Native (1.2.23) on Linux, Windows
and MacOS.

Mark

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Tomcat 8.5.49

[Mark Thomas]

On 20/11/2019 14:03, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
> вт, 19 нояб. 2019 г. в 19:58, Mark Thomas :
>>
>> On 19/11/2019 00:44, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
>>> вт, 19 нояб. 2019 г. в 01:42, Mark Thomas :
>>>
>>> I think the single pollset change should not be backported to Tomcat 7.
>>> I am OK with it being backported to Tomcat 8.5.
>>
>> In favour of back-porting:
>> [...]
>> - Windows XP / Server 2003 are out of support. I think it would be
>>   unusual for a user to be keeping Tomcat up to date but not the OS.
>> - sendfile is already using a larger pollset size and we have had no
>>   complaints (that I recall)
> 
> Updating an OS costs money (if it is Windows) and may be not possible
> due to hardware limitations.
> 
> That said, reviewing the changes and comments once again,
> I see that this is not a showstopper for Windows XP users, if there are any.
> 
> The comments say about reduced performance, not an inability to run Tomcat.
> The pollset size can be adjusted by configuring maxConnections="1024"
> or less. I think that is a reasonable value for some legacy server.
> 
> Thus OK to backport to Tomcat 7.
> 
> Looking into documentation,
> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/http.html
> Regarding maxConnections it says
> "Note that for APR/native on Windows, the configured value will be
> reduced to the highest multiple of 1024 that is less than or equal to
> maxConnections."
> 
> I think that is no longer true.

Good catch. I'll check the default as well.

Mark

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Tomcat 8.5.49

[Konstantin Kolinko]

вт, 19 нояб. 2019 г. в 19:58, Mark Thomas :
>
> On 19/11/2019 00:44, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
> > вт, 19 нояб. 2019 г. в 01:42, Mark Thomas :
> >
> > I think the single pollset change should not be backported to Tomcat 7.
> > I am OK with it being backported to Tomcat 8.5.
>
> In favour of back-porting:
> [...]
> - Windows XP / Server 2003 are out of support. I think it would be
>   unusual for a user to be keeping Tomcat up to date but not the OS.
> - sendfile is already using a larger pollset size and we have had no
>   complaints (that I recall)

Updating an OS costs money (if it is Windows) and may be not possible
due to hardware limitations.

That said, reviewing the changes and comments once again,
I see that this is not a showstopper for Windows XP users, if there are any.

The comments say about reduced performance, not an inability to run Tomcat.
The pollset size can be adjusted by configuring maxConnections="1024"
or less. I think that is a reasonable value for some legacy server.

Thus OK to backport to Tomcat 7.

Looking into documentation,
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/http.html
Regarding maxConnections it says
"Note that for APR/native on Windows, the configured value will be
reduced to the highest multiple of 1024 that is less than or equal to
maxConnections."

I think that is no longer true.

Best regards,
Konstantin Kolinko

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Tomcat 8.5.49

[Mark Thomas]

On 19/11/2019 19:29, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 5:58 PM Mark Thomas  > wrote:
> 
> On 19/11/2019 00:44, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:



> > I think the single pollset change should not be backported to
> Tomcat 7.
> > I am OK with it being backported to Tomcat 8.5.
> 
> In favour of back-porting:
> - It keeps the code (more) aligned so future maintenance is easier
> - It is more obvious where previous APR fixes have not been back-ported
>   (as well as being easier to back-port them). I can see a handful of
>   fixes it would be worth back-porting
> - Windows XP / Server 2003 are out of support. I think it would be
>   unusual for a user to be keeping Tomcat up to date but not the OS.
> - sendfile is already using a larger pollset size and we have had no
>   complaints (that I recall)
> 
> I've just finished back-porting the single pollset change. I want to
> backport the additional fixes I can now see and then run the unit tests.
> 
> I'd like to then commit these changes but I can do it via a PR if folks
> want a chance to review them first.
> 
> 
> +1 for attempting it, if you're comfortable about it it should be fine.

FYI, the single pollset changes back-ported easily along with one other
fix. The other fixes were not as clean so I decided to leave them for now.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Tomcat 8.5.49

[Rémy Maucherat]

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 5:58 PM Mark Thomas  wrote:

> On 19/11/2019 00:44, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
> > вт, 19 нояб. 2019 г. в 01:42, Mark Thomas :
> >>
> >> On 18/11/2019 22:01, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:22 PM Mark Thomas  >>> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is porting the multipoller removal to 7.0 really doable ?
> >>
> >> I don't know. I haven't looked at the code yet. I do have an alternative
> >> fix I tested that should work if back-porting proves tricky.
> >>
> >>> It could be running on older Windows platforms maybe.
> >>
> >> That would only be an issue of the versions of Windows were so old they
> >> were no longer supported by Microsoft. Users in those circumstances are
> >> unlikely to be updating to the latest 7.0.x release anyway. Therefore
> >> that isn't something I'm particularly worrying about. (But I am happy to
> >> be over-ruled if the consensus is not to back-port to 7.0.x.)
> >
> > Searching my mailbox and archives at https://tomcat.markmail.org/,
> >
> > a) Tomcat 7.0.96 running on Windows XP  was mentioned recently (August
> 2019)
> > https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=63625#c16
> >
> > b) Tomcat 8.5 was never mentioned running on Windows XP or on Windows
> 2003.
> > There was one thread about Tomcat 8.5.3 when a client was using
> > Windows XP, but Tomcat was running on Ubuntu.
> > There was one thread in year 2017 about posting an application from an
> > old server running Windows 2003 and Tomcat 5 to Tomcat 8.5.
> > https://markmail.org/thread/qvmzmmjz2dqohbk5
> >
> > I think the single pollset change should not be backported to Tomcat 7.
> > I am OK with it being backported to Tomcat 8.5.
>
> In favour of back-porting:
> - It keeps the code (more) aligned so future maintenance is easier
> - It is more obvious where previous APR fixes have not been back-ported
>   (as well as being easier to back-port them). I can see a handful of
>   fixes it would be worth back-porting
> - Windows XP / Server 2003 are out of support. I think it would be
>   unusual for a user to be keeping Tomcat up to date but not the OS.
> - sendfile is already using a larger pollset size and we have had no
>   complaints (that I recall)
>
> I've just finished back-porting the single pollset change. I want to
> backport the additional fixes I can now see and then run the unit tests.
>
> I'd like to then commit these changes but I can do it via a PR if folks
> want a chance to review them first.
>

+1 for attempting it, if you're comfortable about it it should be fine.

Rémy

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Tomcat 8.5.49

[Mark Thomas]

On 19/11/2019 00:44, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
> вт, 19 нояб. 2019 г. в 01:42, Mark Thomas :
>>
>> On 18/11/2019 22:01, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
>>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:22 PM Mark Thomas >> > wrote:
>>
>>> Is porting the multipoller removal to 7.0 really doable ?
>>
>> I don't know. I haven't looked at the code yet. I do have an alternative
>> fix I tested that should work if back-porting proves tricky.
>>
>>> It could be running on older Windows platforms maybe.
>>
>> That would only be an issue of the versions of Windows were so old they
>> were no longer supported by Microsoft. Users in those circumstances are
>> unlikely to be updating to the latest 7.0.x release anyway. Therefore
>> that isn't something I'm particularly worrying about. (But I am happy to
>> be over-ruled if the consensus is not to back-port to 7.0.x.)
> 
> Searching my mailbox and archives at https://tomcat.markmail.org/,
> 
> a) Tomcat 7.0.96 running on Windows XP  was mentioned recently (August 2019)
> https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=63625#c16
> 
> b) Tomcat 8.5 was never mentioned running on Windows XP or on Windows 2003.
> There was one thread about Tomcat 8.5.3 when a client was using
> Windows XP, but Tomcat was running on Ubuntu.
> There was one thread in year 2017 about posting an application from an
> old server running Windows 2003 and Tomcat 5 to Tomcat 8.5.
> https://markmail.org/thread/qvmzmmjz2dqohbk5
> 
> I think the single pollset change should not be backported to Tomcat 7.
> I am OK with it being backported to Tomcat 8.5.

In favour of back-porting:
- It keeps the code (more) aligned so future maintenance is easier
- It is more obvious where previous APR fixes have not been back-ported
  (as well as being easier to back-port them). I can see a handful of
  fixes it would be worth back-porting
- Windows XP / Server 2003 are out of support. I think it would be
  unusual for a user to be keeping Tomcat up to date but not the OS.
- sendfile is already using a larger pollset size and we have had no
  complaints (that I recall)

I've just finished back-porting the single pollset change. I want to
backport the additional fixes I can now see and then run the unit tests.

I'd like to then commit these changes but I can do it via a PR if folks
want a chance to review them first.

Mark

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Tomcat 8.5.49

[Konstantin Kolinko]

вт, 19 нояб. 2019 г. в 01:42, Mark Thomas :
>
> On 18/11/2019 22:01, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:22 PM Mark Thomas  > > wrote:
>
> > Is porting the multipoller removal to 7.0 really doable ?
>
> I don't know. I haven't looked at the code yet. I do have an alternative
> fix I tested that should work if back-porting proves tricky.
>
> > It could be running on older Windows platforms maybe.
>
> That would only be an issue of the versions of Windows were so old they
> were no longer supported by Microsoft. Users in those circumstances are
> unlikely to be updating to the latest 7.0.x release anyway. Therefore
> that isn't something I'm particularly worrying about. (But I am happy to
> be over-ruled if the consensus is not to back-port to 7.0.x.)

Searching my mailbox and archives at https://tomcat.markmail.org/,

a) Tomcat 7.0.96 running on Windows XP  was mentioned recently (August 2019)
https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=63625#c16

b) Tomcat 8.5 was never mentioned running on Windows XP or on Windows 2003.
There was one thread about Tomcat 8.5.3 when a client was using
Windows XP, but Tomcat was running on Ubuntu.
There was one thread in year 2017 about posting an application from an
old server running Windows 2003 and Tomcat 5 to Tomcat 8.5.
https://markmail.org/thread/qvmzmmjz2dqohbk5

I think the single pollset change should not be backported to Tomcat 7.
I am OK with it being backported to Tomcat 8.5.

Best regards,
Konstantin Kolinko

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Tomcat 8.5.49

[Konstantin Kolinko]

вт, 19 нояб. 2019 г. в 00:22, Mark Thomas :
>
> On 17/11/2019 19:01, Mark Thomas wrote:
>
> We have a regression affecting 8.5.x (and 7.0.x).
>
> The fix [1] for an issue raised on the users list [2] was incorrect and
> creating a different issue [3].
>
> There are two questions to address.
>
> a) Do we cancel the 8.5.49 release for this and roll a 8.5.50 release?

If we are re-rolling, I would like to pull back Chris Schultz's
changes to CSRF Filter
(8c143abae26f9b0c49b233c3e7a9cb6cc5b1b0ed)
until all issues with those changes are solved on master (9.0).

Not a showstopper.

> b) Do we fix this by a) correcting [1] or back-porting the change to a
> single poll set?
>
> I'm leaning towards 8.5.50 and back-port the single poll set change.
>

What is easier for you?
If 7.0.x needs a patch as well, won't it be easier to have the same
patch as for 7.0?

(For reference, discussion of the single poll set change on dev@, Jul 05 2019
https://tomcat.markmail.org/thread/dzlcnmuodeqe27w7
Subject:Re: [tomcat] branch master updated: Quick fix for poller issue
reported on users list
)

The removed code is for older OSes like Windows XP. As stated in a
comment in that code (in AprEndpoint.java) the issue was solved in
Windows Vista,
Support for Windows XP ended April 8, 2014.  The first version of Java
8 was March 18, 2014, thus we are safe to assume that Tomcat 9 does
not run on Windows XP.

The first version of Java 7 was in 2011, thus I think that Tomcat 8.0
may run on Windows XP.

Tomcat 8.5.0 was released in March 2016, so I think it was never
really tested on Windows XP.  Looking into the "Vote" thread for
8.5.0, it was tested on Windows 7. Thus I have no objections against
backporting the single pollset change to Tomcat 8.5.

Officially, running Java 7 on Windows XP is no longer supported by
Oracle. For reference:
https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html
"Oracle JDK 7 and JRE 7 Certified System Configurations"


Best regards,
Konstantin Kolinko

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Tomcat 8.5.49

[Mark Thomas]

On 18/11/2019 22:01, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:22 PM Mark Thomas  > wrote:
> 
> On 17/11/2019 19:01, Mark Thomas wrote:
> 
> We have a regression affecting 8.5.x (and 7.0.x).
> 
> The fix [1] for an issue raised on the users list [2] was incorrect and
> creating a different issue [3].
> 
> There are two questions to address.
> 
> a) Do we cancel the 8.5.49 release for this and roll a 8.5.50 release?
> 
> b) Do we fix this by a) correcting [1] or back-porting the change to a
> single poll set?
> 
> I'm leaning towards 8.5.50 and back-port the single poll set change.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Mark
> 
> [1]
> 
> https://github.com/apache/tomcat/commit/fffb08790e642e03f00c5f96a3a61ee09a2c8342
> [2] https://markmail.org/thread/lh7pst3bwptpcyco
> [3] https://tomcat.markmail.org/thread/btjionfhp2olyjne
> 
> 
> +0 only for 8.5.50 since the issue isn't so common (APR + Windows).

Ack.

> Is porting the multipoller removal to 7.0 really doable ?

I don't know. I haven't looked at the code yet. I do have an alternative
fix I tested that should work if back-porting proves tricky.

> It could be running on older Windows platforms maybe.

That would only be an issue of the versions of Windows were so old they
were no longer supported by Microsoft. Users in those circumstances are
unlikely to be updating to the latest 7.0.x release anyway. Therefore
that isn't something I'm particularly worrying about. (But I am happy to
be over-ruled if the consensus is not to back-port to 7.0.x.)

Mark

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Tomcat 8.5.49

[Rémy Maucherat]

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:22 PM Mark Thomas  wrote:

> On 17/11/2019 19:01, Mark Thomas wrote:
>
> We have a regression affecting 8.5.x (and 7.0.x).
>
> The fix [1] for an issue raised on the users list [2] was incorrect and
> creating a different issue [3].
>
> There are two questions to address.
>
> a) Do we cancel the 8.5.49 release for this and roll a 8.5.50 release?
>
> b) Do we fix this by a) correcting [1] or back-porting the change to a
> single poll set?
>
> I'm leaning towards 8.5.50 and back-port the single poll set change.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Mark
>
> [1]
>
> https://github.com/apache/tomcat/commit/fffb08790e642e03f00c5f96a3a61ee09a2c8342
> [2] https://markmail.org/thread/lh7pst3bwptpcyco
> [3] https://tomcat.markmail.org/thread/btjionfhp2olyjne
>

+0 only for 8.5.50 since the issue isn't so common (APR + Windows). Is
porting the multipoller removal to 7.0 really doable ? It could be running
on older Windows platforms maybe.

Rémy

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Tomcat 8.5.49

[Igal Sapir]

On 11/18/2019 1:22 PM, Mark Thomas wrote:

On 17/11/2019 19:01, Mark Thomas wrote:

We have a regression affecting 8.5.x (and 7.0.x).

The fix [1] for an issue raised on the users list [2] was incorrect and
creating a different issue [3].

There are two questions to address.

a) Do we cancel the 8.5.49 release for this and roll a 8.5.50 release?

b) Do we fix this by a) correcting [1] or back-porting the change to a
single poll set?

I'm leaning towards 8.5.50 and back-port the single poll set change.

Thoughts?


+1 for 8.5.50

Igal




Mark

[1]
https://github.com/apache/tomcat/commit/fffb08790e642e03f00c5f96a3a61ee09a2c8342
[2] https://markmail.org/thread/lh7pst3bwptpcyco
[3] https://tomcat.markmail.org/thread/btjionfhp2olyjne



The proposed Apache Tomcat 8.5.49 release is now available for voting.

The major changes compared to the 8.5.47 release are:

- Improvements to Async error handling

- Stricter processing of HTTP headers when looking for specific token
   values

- Fix various issues that could lead to modification to a JSP not being
   reflected in the served page

Along with lots of other bug fixes and improvements.

For full details, see the changelog:
https://ci.apache.org/projects/tomcat/tomcat85/docs/changelog.html

It can be obtained from:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/tomcat/tomcat-8/v8.5.49/

The Maven staging repo is:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachetomcat-1238/

The tag is:
https://github.com/apache/tomcat/tree/8.5.49

The proposed 8.5.49 release is:
[ ] Broken - do not release
[ ] Stable - go ahead and release as 8.5.49

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Tomcat 8.5.49

[Mark Thomas]

On 17/11/2019 19:01, Mark Thomas wrote:

We have a regression affecting 8.5.x (and 7.0.x).

The fix [1] for an issue raised on the users list [2] was incorrect and
creating a different issue [3].

There are two questions to address.

a) Do we cancel the 8.5.49 release for this and roll a 8.5.50 release?

b) Do we fix this by a) correcting [1] or back-porting the change to a
single poll set?

I'm leaning towards 8.5.50 and back-port the single poll set change.

Thoughts?

Mark

[1]
https://github.com/apache/tomcat/commit/fffb08790e642e03f00c5f96a3a61ee09a2c8342
[2] https://markmail.org/thread/lh7pst3bwptpcyco
[3] https://tomcat.markmail.org/thread/btjionfhp2olyjne


> The proposed Apache Tomcat 8.5.49 release is now available for voting.
> 
> The major changes compared to the 8.5.47 release are:
> 
> - Improvements to Async error handling
> 
> - Stricter processing of HTTP headers when looking for specific token
>   values
> 
> - Fix various issues that could lead to modification to a JSP not being
>   reflected in the served page
> 
> Along with lots of other bug fixes and improvements.
> 
> For full details, see the changelog:
> https://ci.apache.org/projects/tomcat/tomcat85/docs/changelog.html
> 
> It can be obtained from:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/tomcat/tomcat-8/v8.5.49/
> 
> The Maven staging repo is:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachetomcat-1238/
> 
> The tag is:
> https://github.com/apache/tomcat/tree/8.5.49
> 
> The proposed 8.5.49 release is:
> [ ] Broken - do not release
> [ ] Stable - go ahead and release as 8.5.49
> 
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Tomcat 8.5.49

[Coty Sutherland]

On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 2:01 PM Mark Thomas  wrote:

> The proposed Apache Tomcat 8.5.49 release is now available for voting.
>
> The major changes compared to the 8.5.47 release are:
>
> - Improvements to Async error handling
>
> - Stricter processing of HTTP headers when looking for specific token
>   values
>
> - Fix various issues that could lead to modification to a JSP not being
>   reflected in the served page
>
> Along with lots of other bug fixes and improvements.
>
> For full details, see the changelog:
> https://ci.apache.org/projects/tomcat/tomcat85/docs/changelog.html
>
> It can be obtained from:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/tomcat/tomcat-8/v8.5.49/
>
> The Maven staging repo is:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachetomcat-1238/
>
> The tag is:
> https://github.com/apache/tomcat/tree/8.5.49
>
> The proposed 8.5.49 release is:
> [ ] Broken - do not release
> [x] Stable - go ahead and release as 8.5.49
>

+1


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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Tomcat 8.5.49

[Igal Sapir]

On 11/17/2019 11:01 AM, Mark Thomas wrote:

The proposed Apache Tomcat 8.5.49 release is now available for voting.

The proposed 8.5.49 release is:
[ ] Broken - do not release
[X] Stable - go ahead and release as 8.5.49


Unit tests passed on Windows 10 and Ubuntu 18.04

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Tomcat 8.5.49

[Rémy Maucherat]

On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 8:01 PM Mark Thomas  wrote:

> The proposed Apache Tomcat 8.5.49 release is now available for voting.
>
> The major changes compared to the 8.5.47 release are:
>
> - Improvements to Async error handling
>
> - Stricter processing of HTTP headers when looking for specific token
>   values
>
> - Fix various issues that could lead to modification to a JSP not being
>   reflected in the served page
>
> Along with lots of other bug fixes and improvements.
>
> For full details, see the changelog:
> https://ci.apache.org/projects/tomcat/tomcat85/docs/changelog.html
>
> It can be obtained from:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/tomcat/tomcat-8/v8.5.49/
>
> The Maven staging repo is:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachetomcat-1238/
>
> The tag is:
> https://github.com/apache/tomcat/tree/8.5.49
>
> The proposed 8.5.49 release is:
> [ ] Broken - do not release
> [X] Stable - go ahead and release as 8.5.49
>
> Rémy

[VOTE] Release Apache Tomcat 8.5.49

[Mark Thomas]

The proposed Apache Tomcat 8.5.49 release is now available for voting.

The major changes compared to the 8.5.47 release are:

- Improvements to Async error handling

- Stricter processing of HTTP headers when looking for specific token
  values

- Fix various issues that could lead to modification to a JSP not being
  reflected in the served page

Along with lots of other bug fixes and improvements.

For full details, see the changelog:
https://ci.apache.org/projects/tomcat/tomcat85/docs/changelog.html

It can be obtained from:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/tomcat/tomcat-8/v8.5.49/

The Maven staging repo is:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachetomcat-1238/

The tag is:
https://github.com/apache/tomcat/tree/8.5.49

The proposed 8.5.49 release is:
[ ] Broken - do not release
[ ] Stable - go ahead and release as 8.5.49

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