Re: JPA impl in TomEE 10?

2024-01-08 Thread Jonathan Gallimore 
I've created a WIP PR which had the changes I had:
https://github.com/apache/tomee/pull/1090.

Still working on unit test failures, and likely isn't complete.

I'll keep plugging away, but equally happy for someone else to incorporate
this into another PR, or trash this and do something else, or whatever -
I'm happy either way.

Jon

On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 11:08 AM Jonathan Gallimore <
jonathan.gallim...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Awesome. I'll take a look.
>
> Jon
>
> On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 10:50 AM Richard Zowalla 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Jon,
>>
>> your changes (if they are committed at the ee10 migrate merge) are
>> basically already on "main" :)
>>
>> Gruß
>> Richard
>>
>> Am Montag, dem 08.01.2024 um 10:37 + schrieb Jonathan Gallimore:
>> > I did _some_ work on concurrency a while back. Very happy to rebase
>> > it -
>> > maybe it helps even if it isn't complete.
>> >
>> > Jon
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 5:40 PM Thomas Andraschko <
>> > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > 1) OpenJPA: couldnt we just set EclipseLink as our default for now?
>> > > We dont
>> > > need to remove it, but leaving it as default is not a good
>> > > decision.
>> > > 2) BatchEE: Is there a alternative impl for now available? I can
>> > > try to
>> > > migrate BatchEE to jakarta later but for now the highest prio for
>> > > me and my
>> > > company to migrate to a EE10 container.
>> > > 3) Concurency: Can you point me to the sources? I will try to work
>> > > on it
>> > > upcoming week.
>> > >
>> > > Am Fr., 5. Jan. 2024 um 11:07 Uhr schrieb Richard Zowalla <
>> > > rich...@zowalla.com>:
>> > >
>> > > > I have tested a custom TomEE 10 build (with fixed deps) for quite
>> > > > a while
>> > > > now and it worked for my usecases.
>> > > >
>> > > > What needs to be done (imho):
>> > > >
>> > > > - We need to have stable versions for BatchEE and OpenJPA.
>> > > > Currently,
>> > > they
>> > > > are only SNAPSHOT.
>> > > >
>> > > > - Implement the concurrency changes. Currently, they are only
>> > > > added as
>> > > > stub impls. (I am not using that in my test env, so didn't
>> > > > encounter
>> > > issues)
>> > > >
>> > > > - TCK still hangs but isn't a blocker for a milestone imho.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thoughts?
>> > > >
>> > > > Gruß
>> > > > Richard
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Am 5. Januar 2024 10:40:05 MEZ schrieb Thomas Andraschko <
>> > > > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com>:
>> > > > > i would like to have everything apache, too but i think our
>> > > > > goal must be
>> > > > to
>> > > > > get a TomEE10-M1 release out ASAP.
>> > > > > we can later easily make openjpa the default again.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > how should we proceed here?
>> > > > > i have some time slots to work on something and provide PRs, we
>> > > > > just
>> > > need
>> > > > > some decisions.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Am Mo., 20. Nov. 2023 um 23:12 Uhr schrieb Jonathan S. Fisher <
>> > > > > exabr...@gmail.com>:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > If my opinion counts for anything, I'd love for TomEE to be
>> > > > > > based on
>> > > > > > Apache Foundation projects as much as possible. With JPA
>> > > > > > itself is
>> > > > > > just a large spec to cover, I can understand OpenJPA not
>> > > > > > having a
>> > > > > > current spec implementation and am still thankful for the
>> > > > > > past efforts
>> > > > > > of the committers on that project. My second choice would be
>> > > > > > EclipseLink over Hibernate, mainly because of speed, but also
>> > > > > > because
>> > > > > > many of the app servers in the space are already Weld +
>> > > > > > Hibernate +
>> > > > > > other various Redhat derivative projects. TomEE by far is
>> > > > > > enormously
>> > > > > > faster on startup and execution speed than OpenLiberty or
>> > > > > > WildFly
>> > > > > > (deploying the exact same WAR) and I'd be sad to lose that.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 9:46 AM Jean-Louis Monteiro
>> > > > > >  wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Thanks Thomas for pointing this out.
>> > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
>> > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
>> > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:06 PM Richard Zowalla
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Great news ;-)
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Am Montag, dem 20.11.2023 um 16:05 +0100 schrieb Thomas
>> > > Andraschko:
>> > > > > > > > > JFYI: https://in.relation.to/2023/11/18/license/
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > it seems they would like to move to another license
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:16 Uhr schrieb Jean-Louis
>> > > > > > > > > Monteiro <
>> > > > > > > > > jlmonte...@tomitribe.com>:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > https://hibernate.org/community/license/
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Most Hibernate projects are released under LGPL v2.1
>> > > > > > > > > >

Re: JPA impl in TomEE 10?

2024-01-08 Thread Jonathan Gallimore 
Awesome. I'll take a look.

Jon

On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 10:50 AM Richard Zowalla  wrote:

> Hey Jon,
>
> your changes (if they are committed at the ee10 migrate merge) are
> basically already on "main" :)
>
> Gruß
> Richard
>
> Am Montag, dem 08.01.2024 um 10:37 + schrieb Jonathan Gallimore:
> > I did _some_ work on concurrency a while back. Very happy to rebase
> > it -
> > maybe it helps even if it isn't complete.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 5:40 PM Thomas Andraschko <
> > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 1) OpenJPA: couldnt we just set EclipseLink as our default for now?
> > > We dont
> > > need to remove it, but leaving it as default is not a good
> > > decision.
> > > 2) BatchEE: Is there a alternative impl for now available? I can
> > > try to
> > > migrate BatchEE to jakarta later but for now the highest prio for
> > > me and my
> > > company to migrate to a EE10 container.
> > > 3) Concurency: Can you point me to the sources? I will try to work
> > > on it
> > > upcoming week.
> > >
> > > Am Fr., 5. Jan. 2024 um 11:07 Uhr schrieb Richard Zowalla <
> > > rich...@zowalla.com>:
> > >
> > > > I have tested a custom TomEE 10 build (with fixed deps) for quite
> > > > a while
> > > > now and it worked for my usecases.
> > > >
> > > > What needs to be done (imho):
> > > >
> > > > - We need to have stable versions for BatchEE and OpenJPA.
> > > > Currently,
> > > they
> > > > are only SNAPSHOT.
> > > >
> > > > - Implement the concurrency changes. Currently, they are only
> > > > added as
> > > > stub impls. (I am not using that in my test env, so didn't
> > > > encounter
> > > issues)
> > > >
> > > > - TCK still hangs but isn't a blocker for a milestone imho.
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > Gruß
> > > > Richard
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Am 5. Januar 2024 10:40:05 MEZ schrieb Thomas Andraschko <
> > > > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > i would like to have everything apache, too but i think our
> > > > > goal must be
> > > > to
> > > > > get a TomEE10-M1 release out ASAP.
> > > > > we can later easily make openjpa the default again.
> > > > >
> > > > > how should we proceed here?
> > > > > i have some time slots to work on something and provide PRs, we
> > > > > just
> > > need
> > > > > some decisions.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Am Mo., 20. Nov. 2023 um 23:12 Uhr schrieb Jonathan S. Fisher <
> > > > > exabr...@gmail.com>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > If my opinion counts for anything, I'd love for TomEE to be
> > > > > > based on
> > > > > > Apache Foundation projects as much as possible. With JPA
> > > > > > itself is
> > > > > > just a large spec to cover, I can understand OpenJPA not
> > > > > > having a
> > > > > > current spec implementation and am still thankful for the
> > > > > > past efforts
> > > > > > of the committers on that project. My second choice would be
> > > > > > EclipseLink over Hibernate, mainly because of speed, but also
> > > > > > because
> > > > > > many of the app servers in the space are already Weld +
> > > > > > Hibernate +
> > > > > > other various Redhat derivative projects. TomEE by far is
> > > > > > enormously
> > > > > > faster on startup and execution speed than OpenLiberty or
> > > > > > WildFly
> > > > > > (deploying the exact same WAR) and I'd be sad to lose that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 9:46 AM Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks Thomas for pointing this out.
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:06 PM Richard Zowalla
> > > > > > > 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Great news ;-)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Am Montag, dem 20.11.2023 um 16:05 +0100 schrieb Thomas
> > > Andraschko:
> > > > > > > > > JFYI: https://in.relation.to/2023/11/18/license/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > it seems they would like to move to another license
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:16 Uhr schrieb Jean-Louis
> > > > > > > > > Monteiro <
> > > > > > > > > jlmonte...@tomitribe.com>:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://hibernate.org/community/license/
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Most Hibernate projects are released under LGPL v2.1
> > > > > > > > > > .
> > > > > > > > > > Only some sub projects are ASL v2
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 4:12 PM Thomas Andraschko <
> > > > > > > > > > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > isnt hibernate licensed under Apache2.0?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:10 Uhr schrieb Swell

Re: JPA impl in TomEE 10?

2024-01-08 Thread Richard Zowalla 
Hey Jon,

your changes (if they are committed at the ee10 migrate merge) are
basically already on "main" :)

Gruß
Richard

Am Montag, dem 08.01.2024 um 10:37 + schrieb Jonathan Gallimore:
> I did _some_ work on concurrency a while back. Very happy to rebase
> it -
> maybe it helps even if it isn't complete.
> 
> Jon
> 
> On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 5:40 PM Thomas Andraschko <
> andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > 1) OpenJPA: couldnt we just set EclipseLink as our default for now?
> > We dont
> > need to remove it, but leaving it as default is not a good
> > decision.
> > 2) BatchEE: Is there a alternative impl for now available? I can
> > try to
> > migrate BatchEE to jakarta later but for now the highest prio for
> > me and my
> > company to migrate to a EE10 container.
> > 3) Concurency: Can you point me to the sources? I will try to work
> > on it
> > upcoming week.
> > 
> > Am Fr., 5. Jan. 2024 um 11:07 Uhr schrieb Richard Zowalla <
> > rich...@zowalla.com>:
> > 
> > > I have tested a custom TomEE 10 build (with fixed deps) for quite
> > > a while
> > > now and it worked for my usecases.
> > > 
> > > What needs to be done (imho):
> > > 
> > > - We need to have stable versions for BatchEE and OpenJPA.
> > > Currently,
> > they
> > > are only SNAPSHOT.
> > > 
> > > - Implement the concurrency changes. Currently, they are only
> > > added as
> > > stub impls. (I am not using that in my test env, so didn't
> > > encounter
> > issues)
> > > 
> > > - TCK still hangs but isn't a blocker for a milestone imho.
> > > 
> > > Thoughts?
> > > 
> > > Gruß
> > > Richard
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Am 5. Januar 2024 10:40:05 MEZ schrieb Thomas Andraschko <
> > > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com>:
> > > > i would like to have everything apache, too but i think our
> > > > goal must be
> > > to
> > > > get a TomEE10-M1 release out ASAP.
> > > > we can later easily make openjpa the default again.
> > > > 
> > > > how should we proceed here?
> > > > i have some time slots to work on something and provide PRs, we
> > > > just
> > need
> > > > some decisions.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Am Mo., 20. Nov. 2023 um 23:12 Uhr schrieb Jonathan S. Fisher <
> > > > exabr...@gmail.com>:
> > > > 
> > > > > If my opinion counts for anything, I'd love for TomEE to be
> > > > > based on
> > > > > Apache Foundation projects as much as possible. With JPA
> > > > > itself is
> > > > > just a large spec to cover, I can understand OpenJPA not
> > > > > having a
> > > > > current spec implementation and am still thankful for the
> > > > > past efforts
> > > > > of the committers on that project. My second choice would be
> > > > > EclipseLink over Hibernate, mainly because of speed, but also
> > > > > because
> > > > > many of the app servers in the space are already Weld +
> > > > > Hibernate +
> > > > > other various Redhat derivative projects. TomEE by far is
> > > > > enormously
> > > > > faster on startup and execution speed than OpenLiberty or
> > > > > WildFly
> > > > > (deploying the exact same WAR) and I'd be sad to lose that.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 9:46 AM Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks Thomas for pointing this out.
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:06 PM Richard Zowalla
> > > > > > 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Great news ;-)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Am Montag, dem 20.11.2023 um 16:05 +0100 schrieb Thomas
> > Andraschko:
> > > > > > > > JFYI: https://in.relation.to/2023/11/18/license/
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > it seems they would like to move to another license
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:16 Uhr schrieb Jean-Louis
> > > > > > > > Monteiro <
> > > > > > > > jlmonte...@tomitribe.com>:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > https://hibernate.org/community/license/
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Most Hibernate projects are released under LGPL v2.1
> > > > > > > > > .
> > > > > > > > > Only some sub projects are ASL v2
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 4:12 PM Thomas Andraschko <
> > > > > > > > > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > isnt hibernate licensed under Apache2.0?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:10 Uhr schrieb Swell <
> > > > > > > > > souheil.sul...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Because of licenses we cannot ship with
> > > > > > > > > > > hibernate. Better
> > be
> > > > > > > > > éclipselink
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > avoid license hell.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >

Re: JPA impl in TomEE 10?

2024-01-08 Thread Jonathan Gallimore 
I did _some_ work on concurrency a while back. Very happy to rebase it -
maybe it helps even if it isn't complete.

Jon

On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 5:40 PM Thomas Andraschko <
andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 1) OpenJPA: couldnt we just set EclipseLink as our default for now? We dont
> need to remove it, but leaving it as default is not a good decision.
> 2) BatchEE: Is there a alternative impl for now available? I can try to
> migrate BatchEE to jakarta later but for now the highest prio for me and my
> company to migrate to a EE10 container.
> 3) Concurency: Can you point me to the sources? I will try to work on it
> upcoming week.
>
> Am Fr., 5. Jan. 2024 um 11:07 Uhr schrieb Richard Zowalla <
> rich...@zowalla.com>:
>
> > I have tested a custom TomEE 10 build (with fixed deps) for quite a while
> > now and it worked for my usecases.
> >
> > What needs to be done (imho):
> >
> > - We need to have stable versions for BatchEE and OpenJPA. Currently,
> they
> > are only SNAPSHOT.
> >
> > - Implement the concurrency changes. Currently, they are only added as
> > stub impls. (I am not using that in my test env, so didn't encounter
> issues)
> >
> > - TCK still hangs but isn't a blocker for a milestone imho.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Gruß
> > Richard
> >
> >
> > Am 5. Januar 2024 10:40:05 MEZ schrieb Thomas Andraschko <
> > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com>:
> > >i would like to have everything apache, too but i think our goal must be
> > to
> > >get a TomEE10-M1 release out ASAP.
> > >we can later easily make openjpa the default again.
> > >
> > >how should we proceed here?
> > >i have some time slots to work on something and provide PRs, we just
> need
> > >some decisions.
> > >
> > >
> > >Am Mo., 20. Nov. 2023 um 23:12 Uhr schrieb Jonathan S. Fisher <
> > >exabr...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > >> If my opinion counts for anything, I'd love for TomEE to be based on
> > >> Apache Foundation projects as much as possible. With JPA itself is
> > >> just a large spec to cover, I can understand OpenJPA not having a
> > >> current spec implementation and am still thankful for the past efforts
> > >> of the committers on that project. My second choice would be
> > >> EclipseLink over Hibernate, mainly because of speed, but also because
> > >> many of the app servers in the space are already Weld + Hibernate +
> > >> other various Redhat derivative projects. TomEE by far is enormously
> > >> faster on startup and execution speed than OpenLiberty or WildFly
> > >> (deploying the exact same WAR) and I'd be sad to lose that.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 9:46 AM Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > >>  wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks Thomas for pointing this out.
> > >> > --
> > >> > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > >> > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > >> > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:06 PM Richard Zowalla 
> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Great news ;-)
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Am Montag, dem 20.11.2023 um 16:05 +0100 schrieb Thomas
> Andraschko:
> > >> > > > JFYI: https://in.relation.to/2023/11/18/license/
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > it seems they would like to move to another license
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:16 Uhr schrieb Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > >> > > > jlmonte...@tomitribe.com>:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > https://hibernate.org/community/license/
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Most Hibernate projects are released under LGPL v2.1
> > >> > > > > .
> > >> > > > > Only some sub projects are ASL v2
> > >> > > > > --
> > >> > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > >> > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > >> > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 4:12 PM Thomas Andraschko <
> > >> > > > > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > isnt hibernate licensed under Apache2.0?
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:10 Uhr schrieb Swell <
> > >> > > > > souheil.sul...@gmail.com
> > >> > > > > > > :
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Because of licenses we cannot ship with hibernate. Better
> be
> > >> > > > > éclipselink
> > >> > > > > > to
> > >> > > > > > > avoid license hell.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > On Tue 7 Feb 2023 at 16:08, Thomas Andraschko <
> > >> > > > > > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > AFAICS OpenJPA isnt in real active development and
> doenst
> > >> > > > > > > > even
> > >> > > > > support
> > >> > > > > > > all
> > >> > > > > > > > JPA 2.2 features.
> > >> > > > > > > > Whats your plan for it?
> > >> > > > > > > > Can't we just use Hibernate as default?
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > Best regards,
> > >> > > > > > > > Thomas
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> >

Re: JPA impl in TomEE 10?

2024-01-08 Thread Richard Zowalla 
@1: Maybe start a separate thread for [DISCUSSION] ? From my pov a
stable version of openjpa would be sufficient (even if it isn't
compliant)

@2: Same. Just needs a release, imho (but might depend on old stuff,
don't know)

@3: 

Concurrency: You can find a DRAFT PR with the Concurrency TCK here: [1]
There are some new features: [2]
The stub impl / changes are here: [3]

[1] https://github.com/apache/tomee/pull/1084
[2] https://jakarta.ee/specifications/concurrency/3.0/
[3]
https://github.com/apache/tomee/tree/main/container/openejb-core/src/main/java/org/apache/openejb/threads

Am Sonntag, dem 07.01.2024 um 18:40 +0100 schrieb Thomas Andraschko:
> 1) OpenJPA: couldnt we just set EclipseLink as our default for now?
> We dont
> need to remove it, but leaving it as default is not a good decision.
> 2) BatchEE: Is there a alternative impl for now available? I can try
> to
> migrate BatchEE to jakarta later but for now the highest prio for me
> and my
> company to migrate to a EE10 container.
> 3) Concurency: Can you point me to the sources? I will try to work on
> it
> upcoming week.
> 
> Am Fr., 5. Jan. 2024 um 11:07 Uhr schrieb Richard Zowalla <
> rich...@zowalla.com>:
> 
> > I have tested a custom TomEE 10 build (with fixed deps) for quite a
> > while
> > now and it worked for my usecases.
> > 
> > What needs to be done (imho):
> > 
> > - We need to have stable versions for BatchEE and OpenJPA.
> > Currently, they
> > are only SNAPSHOT.
> > 
> > - Implement the concurrency changes. Currently, they are only added
> > as
> > stub impls. (I am not using that in my test env, so didn't
> > encounter issues)
> > 
> > - TCK still hangs but isn't a blocker for a milestone imho.
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> > 
> > Gruß
> > Richard
> > 
> > 
> > Am 5. Januar 2024 10:40:05 MEZ schrieb Thomas Andraschko <
> > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com>:
> > > i would like to have everything apache, too but i think our goal
> > > must be
> > to
> > > get a TomEE10-M1 release out ASAP.
> > > we can later easily make openjpa the default again.
> > > 
> > > how should we proceed here?
> > > i have some time slots to work on something and provide PRs, we
> > > just need
> > > some decisions.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Am Mo., 20. Nov. 2023 um 23:12 Uhr schrieb Jonathan S. Fisher <
> > > exabr...@gmail.com>:
> > > 
> > > > If my opinion counts for anything, I'd love for TomEE to be
> > > > based on
> > > > Apache Foundation projects as much as possible. With JPA itself
> > > > is
> > > > just a large spec to cover, I can understand OpenJPA not having
> > > > a
> > > > current spec implementation and am still thankful for the past
> > > > efforts
> > > > of the committers on that project. My second choice would be
> > > > EclipseLink over Hibernate, mainly because of speed, but also
> > > > because
> > > > many of the app servers in the space are already Weld +
> > > > Hibernate +
> > > > other various Redhat derivative projects. TomEE by far is
> > > > enormously
> > > > faster on startup and execution speed than OpenLiberty or
> > > > WildFly
> > > > (deploying the exact same WAR) and I'd be sad to lose that.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 9:46 AM Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks Thomas for pointing this out.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:06 PM Richard Zowalla
> > > > > 
> > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Great news ;-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Am Montag, dem 20.11.2023 um 16:05 +0100 schrieb Thomas
> > > > > > Andraschko:
> > > > > > > JFYI: https://in.relation.to/2023/11/18/license/
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > it seems they would like to move to another license
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:16 Uhr schrieb Jean-Louis
> > > > > > > Monteiro <
> > > > > > > jlmonte...@tomitribe.com>:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > https://hibernate.org/community/license/
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Most Hibernate projects are released under LGPL v2.1
> > > > > > > > .
> > > > > > > > Only some sub projects are ASL v2
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 4:12 PM Thomas Andraschko <
> > > > > > > > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > isnt hibernate licensed under Apache2.0?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:10 Uhr schrieb Swell <
> > > > > > > > souheil.sul...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Because of licenses we cannot ship with hibernate.
> > > > > > > > > > Better be
> > > > > > > > éclipselink
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > avoid license hell.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue 7 Feb 2023 at 16:

Re: JPA impl in TomEE 10?

2024-01-07 Thread Thomas Andraschko 
1) OpenJPA: couldnt we just set EclipseLink as our default for now? We dont
need to remove it, but leaving it as default is not a good decision.
2) BatchEE: Is there a alternative impl for now available? I can try to
migrate BatchEE to jakarta later but for now the highest prio for me and my
company to migrate to a EE10 container.
3) Concurency: Can you point me to the sources? I will try to work on it
upcoming week.

Am Fr., 5. Jan. 2024 um 11:07 Uhr schrieb Richard Zowalla <
rich...@zowalla.com>:

> I have tested a custom TomEE 10 build (with fixed deps) for quite a while
> now and it worked for my usecases.
>
> What needs to be done (imho):
>
> - We need to have stable versions for BatchEE and OpenJPA. Currently, they
> are only SNAPSHOT.
>
> - Implement the concurrency changes. Currently, they are only added as
> stub impls. (I am not using that in my test env, so didn't encounter issues)
>
> - TCK still hangs but isn't a blocker for a milestone imho.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Gruß
> Richard
>
>
> Am 5. Januar 2024 10:40:05 MEZ schrieb Thomas Andraschko <
> andraschko.tho...@gmail.com>:
> >i would like to have everything apache, too but i think our goal must be
> to
> >get a TomEE10-M1 release out ASAP.
> >we can later easily make openjpa the default again.
> >
> >how should we proceed here?
> >i have some time slots to work on something and provide PRs, we just need
> >some decisions.
> >
> >
> >Am Mo., 20. Nov. 2023 um 23:12 Uhr schrieb Jonathan S. Fisher <
> >exabr...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> If my opinion counts for anything, I'd love for TomEE to be based on
> >> Apache Foundation projects as much as possible. With JPA itself is
> >> just a large spec to cover, I can understand OpenJPA not having a
> >> current spec implementation and am still thankful for the past efforts
> >> of the committers on that project. My second choice would be
> >> EclipseLink over Hibernate, mainly because of speed, but also because
> >> many of the app servers in the space are already Weld + Hibernate +
> >> other various Redhat derivative projects. TomEE by far is enormously
> >> faster on startup and execution speed than OpenLiberty or WildFly
> >> (deploying the exact same WAR) and I'd be sad to lose that.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 9:46 AM Jean-Louis Monteiro
> >>  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Thanks Thomas for pointing this out.
> >> > --
> >> > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> >> > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> >> > http://www.tomitribe.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:06 PM Richard Zowalla 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Great news ;-)
> >> > >
> >> > > Am Montag, dem 20.11.2023 um 16:05 +0100 schrieb Thomas Andraschko:
> >> > > > JFYI: https://in.relation.to/2023/11/18/license/
> >> > > >
> >> > > > it seems they would like to move to another license
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:16 Uhr schrieb Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> >> > > > jlmonte...@tomitribe.com>:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > https://hibernate.org/community/license/
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Most Hibernate projects are released under LGPL v2.1
> >> > > > > .
> >> > > > > Only some sub projects are ASL v2
> >> > > > > --
> >> > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> >> > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> >> > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 4:12 PM Thomas Andraschko <
> >> > > > > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > isnt hibernate licensed under Apache2.0?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:10 Uhr schrieb Swell <
> >> > > > > souheil.sul...@gmail.com
> >> > > > > > > :
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Because of licenses we cannot ship with hibernate. Better be
> >> > > > > éclipselink
> >> > > > > > to
> >> > > > > > > avoid license hell.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > On Tue 7 Feb 2023 at 16:08, Thomas Andraschko <
> >> > > > > > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Hi,
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > AFAICS OpenJPA isnt in real active development and doenst
> >> > > > > > > > even
> >> > > > > support
> >> > > > > > > all
> >> > > > > > > > JPA 2.2 features.
> >> > > > > > > > Whats your plan for it?
> >> > > > > > > > Can't we just use Hibernate as default?
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Best regards,
> >> > > > > > > > Thomas
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jonathan | exabr...@gmail.com
> >> Pessimists, see a jar as half empty. Optimists, in contrast, see it as
> >> half full.
> >> Engineers, of course, understand the glass is twice as big as it needs
> to
> >> be.
> >>
>

Re: JPA impl in TomEE 10?

2024-01-05 Thread Richard Zowalla 
I have tested a custom TomEE 10 build (with fixed deps) for quite a while now 
and it worked for my usecases.

What needs to be done (imho):

- We need to have stable versions for BatchEE and OpenJPA. Currently, they are 
only SNAPSHOT.

- Implement the concurrency changes. Currently, they are only added as stub 
impls. (I am not using that in my test env, so didn't encounter issues)

- TCK still hangs but isn't a blocker for a milestone imho.

Thoughts?

Gruß
Richard 


Am 5. Januar 2024 10:40:05 MEZ schrieb Thomas Andraschko 
:
>i would like to have everything apache, too but i think our goal must be to
>get a TomEE10-M1 release out ASAP.
>we can later easily make openjpa the default again.
>
>how should we proceed here?
>i have some time slots to work on something and provide PRs, we just need
>some decisions.
>
>
>Am Mo., 20. Nov. 2023 um 23:12 Uhr schrieb Jonathan S. Fisher <
>exabr...@gmail.com>:
>
>> If my opinion counts for anything, I'd love for TomEE to be based on
>> Apache Foundation projects as much as possible. With JPA itself is
>> just a large spec to cover, I can understand OpenJPA not having a
>> current spec implementation and am still thankful for the past efforts
>> of the committers on that project. My second choice would be
>> EclipseLink over Hibernate, mainly because of speed, but also because
>> many of the app servers in the space are already Weld + Hibernate +
>> other various Redhat derivative projects. TomEE by far is enormously
>> faster on startup and execution speed than OpenLiberty or WildFly
>> (deploying the exact same WAR) and I'd be sad to lose that.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 9:46 AM Jean-Louis Monteiro
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks Thomas for pointing this out.
>> > --
>> > Jean-Louis Monteiro
>> > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
>> > http://www.tomitribe.com
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:06 PM Richard Zowalla  wrote:
>> >
>> > > Great news ;-)
>> > >
>> > > Am Montag, dem 20.11.2023 um 16:05 +0100 schrieb Thomas Andraschko:
>> > > > JFYI: https://in.relation.to/2023/11/18/license/
>> > > >
>> > > > it seems they would like to move to another license
>> > > >
>> > > > Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:16 Uhr schrieb Jean-Louis Monteiro <
>> > > > jlmonte...@tomitribe.com>:
>> > > >
>> > > > > https://hibernate.org/community/license/
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Most Hibernate projects are released under LGPL v2.1
>> > > > > .
>> > > > > Only some sub projects are ASL v2
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
>> > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
>> > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 4:12 PM Thomas Andraschko <
>> > > > > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > isnt hibernate licensed under Apache2.0?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:10 Uhr schrieb Swell <
>> > > > > souheil.sul...@gmail.com
>> > > > > > > :
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Because of licenses we cannot ship with hibernate. Better be
>> > > > > éclipselink
>> > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > avoid license hell.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Tue 7 Feb 2023 at 16:08, Thomas Andraschko <
>> > > > > > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Hi,
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > AFAICS OpenJPA isnt in real active development and doenst
>> > > > > > > > even
>> > > > > support
>> > > > > > > all
>> > > > > > > > JPA 2.2 features.
>> > > > > > > > Whats your plan for it?
>> > > > > > > > Can't we just use Hibernate as default?
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Best regards,
>> > > > > > > > Thomas
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan | exabr...@gmail.com
>> Pessimists, see a jar as half empty. Optimists, in contrast, see it as
>> half full.
>> Engineers, of course, understand the glass is twice as big as it needs to
>> be.
>>

Re: JPA impl in TomEE 10?

2024-01-05 Thread Thomas Andraschko 
i would like to have everything apache, too but i think our goal must be to
get a TomEE10-M1 release out ASAP.
we can later easily make openjpa the default again.

how should we proceed here?
i have some time slots to work on something and provide PRs, we just need
some decisions.


Am Mo., 20. Nov. 2023 um 23:12 Uhr schrieb Jonathan S. Fisher <
exabr...@gmail.com>:

> If my opinion counts for anything, I'd love for TomEE to be based on
> Apache Foundation projects as much as possible. With JPA itself is
> just a large spec to cover, I can understand OpenJPA not having a
> current spec implementation and am still thankful for the past efforts
> of the committers on that project. My second choice would be
> EclipseLink over Hibernate, mainly because of speed, but also because
> many of the app servers in the space are already Weld + Hibernate +
> other various Redhat derivative projects. TomEE by far is enormously
> faster on startup and execution speed than OpenLiberty or WildFly
> (deploying the exact same WAR) and I'd be sad to lose that.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 9:46 AM Jean-Louis Monteiro
>  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Thomas for pointing this out.
> > --
> > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > http://www.tomitribe.com
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:06 PM Richard Zowalla  wrote:
> >
> > > Great news ;-)
> > >
> > > Am Montag, dem 20.11.2023 um 16:05 +0100 schrieb Thomas Andraschko:
> > > > JFYI: https://in.relation.to/2023/11/18/license/
> > > >
> > > > it seems they would like to move to another license
> > > >
> > > > Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:16 Uhr schrieb Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > > jlmonte...@tomitribe.com>:
> > > >
> > > > > https://hibernate.org/community/license/
> > > > >
> > > > > Most Hibernate projects are released under LGPL v2.1
> > > > > .
> > > > > Only some sub projects are ASL v2
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 4:12 PM Thomas Andraschko <
> > > > > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > isnt hibernate licensed under Apache2.0?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:10 Uhr schrieb Swell <
> > > > > souheil.sul...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Because of licenses we cannot ship with hibernate. Better be
> > > > > éclipselink
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > avoid license hell.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue 7 Feb 2023 at 16:08, Thomas Andraschko <
> > > > > > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > AFAICS OpenJPA isnt in real active development and doenst
> > > > > > > > even
> > > > > support
> > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > JPA 2.2 features.
> > > > > > > > Whats your plan for it?
> > > > > > > > Can't we just use Hibernate as default?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > > > Thomas
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
> --
> Jonathan | exabr...@gmail.com
> Pessimists, see a jar as half empty. Optimists, in contrast, see it as
> half full.
> Engineers, of course, understand the glass is twice as big as it needs to
> be.
>

Re: JPA impl in TomEE 10?

2023-11-20 Thread Jonathan S. Fisher 
If my opinion counts for anything, I'd love for TomEE to be based on
Apache Foundation projects as much as possible. With JPA itself is
just a large spec to cover, I can understand OpenJPA not having a
current spec implementation and am still thankful for the past efforts
of the committers on that project. My second choice would be
EclipseLink over Hibernate, mainly because of speed, but also because
many of the app servers in the space are already Weld + Hibernate +
other various Redhat derivative projects. TomEE by far is enormously
faster on startup and execution speed than OpenLiberty or WildFly
(deploying the exact same WAR) and I'd be sad to lose that.


On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 9:46 AM Jean-Louis Monteiro
 wrote:
>
> Thanks Thomas for pointing this out.
> --
> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> http://www.tomitribe.com
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:06 PM Richard Zowalla  wrote:
>
> > Great news ;-)
> >
> > Am Montag, dem 20.11.2023 um 16:05 +0100 schrieb Thomas Andraschko:
> > > JFYI: https://in.relation.to/2023/11/18/license/
> > >
> > > it seems they would like to move to another license
> > >
> > > Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:16 Uhr schrieb Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > > jlmonte...@tomitribe.com>:
> > >
> > > > https://hibernate.org/community/license/
> > > >
> > > > Most Hibernate projects are released under LGPL v2.1
> > > > .
> > > > Only some sub projects are ASL v2
> > > > --
> > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 4:12 PM Thomas Andraschko <
> > > > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > isnt hibernate licensed under Apache2.0?
> > > > >
> > > > > Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:10 Uhr schrieb Swell <
> > > > souheil.sul...@gmail.com
> > > > > > :
> > > > >
> > > > > > Because of licenses we cannot ship with hibernate. Better be
> > > > éclipselink
> > > > > to
> > > > > > avoid license hell.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue 7 Feb 2023 at 16:08, Thomas Andraschko <
> > > > > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > AFAICS OpenJPA isnt in real active development and doenst
> > > > > > > even
> > > > support
> > > > > > all
> > > > > > > JPA 2.2 features.
> > > > > > > Whats your plan for it?
> > > > > > > Can't we just use Hibernate as default?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > > Thomas
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> >



-- 
Jonathan | exabr...@gmail.com
Pessimists, see a jar as half empty. Optimists, in contrast, see it as
half full.
Engineers, of course, understand the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

Re: JPA impl in TomEE 10?

2023-11-20 Thread Jean-Louis Monteiro 
Thanks Thomas for pointing this out.
--
Jean-Louis Monteiro
http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
http://www.tomitribe.com


On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:06 PM Richard Zowalla  wrote:

> Great news ;-)
>
> Am Montag, dem 20.11.2023 um 16:05 +0100 schrieb Thomas Andraschko:
> > JFYI: https://in.relation.to/2023/11/18/license/
> >
> > it seems they would like to move to another license
> >
> > Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:16 Uhr schrieb Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> > jlmonte...@tomitribe.com>:
> >
> > > https://hibernate.org/community/license/
> > >
> > > Most Hibernate projects are released under LGPL v2.1
> > > .
> > > Only some sub projects are ASL v2
> > > --
> > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 4:12 PM Thomas Andraschko <
> > > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > isnt hibernate licensed under Apache2.0?
> > > >
> > > > Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:10 Uhr schrieb Swell <
> > > souheil.sul...@gmail.com
> > > > > :
> > > >
> > > > > Because of licenses we cannot ship with hibernate. Better be
> > > éclipselink
> > > > to
> > > > > avoid license hell.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue 7 Feb 2023 at 16:08, Thomas Andraschko <
> > > > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > AFAICS OpenJPA isnt in real active development and doenst
> > > > > > even
> > > support
> > > > > all
> > > > > > JPA 2.2 features.
> > > > > > Whats your plan for it?
> > > > > > Can't we just use Hibernate as default?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > Thomas
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
>

Re: JPA impl in TomEE 10?

2023-11-20 Thread Richard Zowalla 
Great news ;-)

Am Montag, dem 20.11.2023 um 16:05 +0100 schrieb Thomas Andraschko:
> JFYI: https://in.relation.to/2023/11/18/license/
> 
> it seems they would like to move to another license
> 
> Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:16 Uhr schrieb Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> jlmonte...@tomitribe.com>:
> 
> > https://hibernate.org/community/license/
> > 
> > Most Hibernate projects are released under LGPL v2.1
> > .
> > Only some sub projects are ASL v2
> > --
> > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 4:12 PM Thomas Andraschko <
> > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > isnt hibernate licensed under Apache2.0?
> > > 
> > > Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:10 Uhr schrieb Swell <
> > souheil.sul...@gmail.com
> > > > :
> > > 
> > > > Because of licenses we cannot ship with hibernate. Better be
> > éclipselink
> > > to
> > > > avoid license hell.
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue 7 Feb 2023 at 16:08, Thomas Andraschko <
> > > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com
> > > > > 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > 
> > > > > AFAICS OpenJPA isnt in real active development and doenst
> > > > > even
> > support
> > > > all
> > > > > JPA 2.2 features.
> > > > > Whats your plan for it?
> > > > > Can't we just use Hibernate as default?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Thomas
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> >

Re: JPA impl in TomEE 10?

2023-11-20 Thread Thomas Andraschko 
JFYI: https://in.relation.to/2023/11/18/license/

it seems they would like to move to another license

Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:16 Uhr schrieb Jean-Louis Monteiro <
jlmonte...@tomitribe.com>:

> https://hibernate.org/community/license/
>
> Most Hibernate projects are released under LGPL v2.1
> .
> Only some sub projects are ASL v2
> --
> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> http://www.tomitribe.com
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 4:12 PM Thomas Andraschko <
> andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > isnt hibernate licensed under Apache2.0?
> >
> > Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:10 Uhr schrieb Swell <
> souheil.sul...@gmail.com
> > >:
> >
> > > Because of licenses we cannot ship with hibernate. Better be
> éclipselink
> > to
> > > avoid license hell.
> > >
> > > On Tue 7 Feb 2023 at 16:08, Thomas Andraschko <
> > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > AFAICS OpenJPA isnt in real active development and doenst even
> support
> > > all
> > > > JPA 2.2 features.
> > > > Whats your plan for it?
> > > > Can't we just use Hibernate as default?
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Thomas
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: JPA impl in TomEE 10?

2023-02-07 Thread Jean-Louis Monteiro 
https://hibernate.org/community/license/

Most Hibernate projects are released under LGPL v2.1
.
Only some sub projects are ASL v2
--
Jean-Louis Monteiro
http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
http://www.tomitribe.com


On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 4:12 PM Thomas Andraschko <
andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> isnt hibernate licensed under Apache2.0?
>
> Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:10 Uhr schrieb Swell  >:
>
> > Because of licenses we cannot ship with hibernate. Better be éclipselink
> to
> > avoid license hell.
> >
> > On Tue 7 Feb 2023 at 16:08, Thomas Andraschko <
> andraschko.tho...@gmail.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > AFAICS OpenJPA isnt in real active development and doenst even support
> > all
> > > JPA 2.2 features.
> > > Whats your plan for it?
> > > Can't we just use Hibernate as default?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Thomas
> > >
> >
>

Re: JPA impl in TomEE 10?

2023-02-07 Thread Jean-Louis Monteiro 
Sorry Swell.
Saw your replied after mine even though you replied before. Mail client
issue :-)
--
Jean-Louis Monteiro
http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
http://www.tomitribe.com


On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 4:11 PM Jean-Louis Monteiro 
wrote:

> We have integration code for Hibernate, but as far as I know we can't ship
> it in any distribution because of license restrictions.
> We can do it with EclipseLink and we do with PLUME.
>
> Maybe Mark or Romain can give us some view on where OpenJPA is at.
> --
> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> http://www.tomitribe.com
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 4:08 PM Thomas Andraschko <
> andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> AFAICS OpenJPA isnt in real active development and doenst even support all
>> JPA 2.2 features.
>> Whats your plan for it?
>> Can't we just use Hibernate as default?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Thomas
>>
>

Re: JPA impl in TomEE 10?

2023-02-07 Thread Jean-Louis Monteiro 
We have integration code for Hibernate, but as far as I know we can't ship
it in any distribution because of license restrictions.
We can do it with EclipseLink and we do with PLUME.

Maybe Mark or Romain can give us some view on where OpenJPA is at.
--
Jean-Louis Monteiro
http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
http://www.tomitribe.com


On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 4:08 PM Thomas Andraschko <
andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> AFAICS OpenJPA isnt in real active development and doenst even support all
> JPA 2.2 features.
> Whats your plan for it?
> Can't we just use Hibernate as default?
>
> Best regards,
> Thomas
>

Re: JPA impl in TomEE 10?

2023-02-07 Thread Thomas Andraschko 
isnt hibernate licensed under Apache2.0?

Am Di., 7. Feb. 2023 um 16:10 Uhr schrieb Swell :

> Because of licenses we cannot ship with hibernate. Better be éclipselink to
> avoid license hell.
>
> On Tue 7 Feb 2023 at 16:08, Thomas Andraschko  >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > AFAICS OpenJPA isnt in real active development and doenst even support
> all
> > JPA 2.2 features.
> > Whats your plan for it?
> > Can't we just use Hibernate as default?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Thomas
> >
>

Re: JPA impl in TomEE 10?

2023-02-07 Thread Swell 
Because of licenses we cannot ship with hibernate. Better be éclipselink to
avoid license hell.

On Tue 7 Feb 2023 at 16:08, Thomas Andraschko 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> AFAICS OpenJPA isnt in real active development and doenst even support all
> JPA 2.2 features.
> Whats your plan for it?
> Can't we just use Hibernate as default?
>
> Best regards,
> Thomas
>

JPA impl in TomEE 10?

2023-02-07 Thread Thomas Andraschko 
Hi,

AFAICS OpenJPA isnt in real active development and doenst even support all
JPA 2.2 features.
Whats your plan for it?
Can't we just use Hibernate as default?

Best regards,
Thomas